1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna and Kevin 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: Welcome to you, and that's what you really missed podcasts. Today, 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: we've got another high school musical and the podcast friend 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: bar Johnson's her coach Bolton, coach Bolton, the basketball dad 6 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: of our generation. 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Yes, of course, the sweet parent. You know what we 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: love in a musical is a great parent. 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, you know. 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:37,319 Speaker 1: And he is sweet and great and also comes up. 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: He's like, find out he's from Hollywood. 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: Royalty, basically grew up on sets. 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: Yes, and hearing him talk about high school musical is 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: illuminating and it makes so much sense as to why 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: it became the beast that it became. 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: And he's got a new podcast, so let's get into it. 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for like coming on here and 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: doing this with us. Thanks for having me our podcast brother. 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that. I like that. 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: Now we're part of a family. 21 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll see at the Christmas party. 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: I guess that's right. Probably is there a Christmas party? 23 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: We need to have one there there are some Kevin, 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: we just really are bad at I'm really bad at 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: attending things. 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: How long have you guys been doing together. 27 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, since before twenty. 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: Years three years? Wow? Yeah, okay, no longer. 29 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: You know when we started with Our Heart three years 30 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: My Heart three years. 31 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: Probably longer than that. I think twenty eighteen we started 32 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: doing the other one. So yeah, yeah, okay, and he 33 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: excused to hang out. 34 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but you just started your podcast, right, 35 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: just started. 36 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. I've just been a guest on so many and 37 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: I was like, you know, I kind of like this stuff, 38 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: like this is pretty fun, I want to do it. 39 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 40 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 3: So I'm glad it worked out. And it's like kind 41 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: of perfect timing. You know, it's a twenty nniversary on 42 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: on January, amazing, lots to talk about so things. Yeah, 43 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: it's been you know, it's like it's not like you 44 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: do anything, you know, just cash those two dollars checks 45 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:14,839 Speaker 3: all day. 46 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: Yes, How has it been so far? Have you enjoyed 47 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: doing it? 48 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: Oh? It's that great. Yeah, I'm a super I'm so 49 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: brand new. I don't know yeah yet, but it's been great. Yeah, 50 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 3: Like everybody's been awesome, and like it's providing opportunities to 51 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: meet people like you guys, So it's uh. 52 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like people likewise you're a. 53 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: Very iconic Disney dad to us. 54 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and. 55 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: We just watched High School Musical and of course along 56 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 2: you know, our Holy Journey. In every press event, media event, 57 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 2: it's always you know, did do you feel like high 58 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 2: School Musical paved the way for you? How are you 59 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: different than high School Musical? Are you? Guys? 60 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 3: Like? 61 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: It was just it was crazy to be compared so 62 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: deeply to you guys, And it was such an honor 63 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: because high school really did pave the way for Glee 64 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: in a lot of ways, and so it was such 65 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: a huge phenomenon. And I'm curious, like when you were 66 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: in the trenches, we know that you guys, that was 67 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: such a fast The first one was such a you know, 68 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: fast filming and kind of like makes your head spin 69 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: a little bit, like did you know or could you 70 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: tell uh when you were filming this that this was 71 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: going to be something so much bigger than it? 72 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: You know? 73 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: Well it was. It's kind of interesting because I remember 74 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: when Glee was being cast and it was already like 75 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: so much buzz, Like everybody was like, there's a big show. 76 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: There's going to be a big, important musical show. And 77 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: it was of course, but yeah, this. 78 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: Was we knew that. 79 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: Did you not feel that we were? 80 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: Now? 81 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: No? 82 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: Really yeah really no? 83 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: Well when did you guys know, like when. 84 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: It aired in the pilot air But even after the 85 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: pilot aired and it did really well, were like, well 86 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: we'll see. Yeah, yeah, you know, things got canceled so 87 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: quickly back then that you just never. 88 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: Knewally, did you guys do a pilot and then wait 89 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: for the pickup? 90 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, gold. 91 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: Yes man where they would go to upfronts and the whole. 92 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: Thing here, Like it was pretty quick. 93 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: I mean I think we got picked We finished filming 94 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: in October thirty first, and we got picked up like 95 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: mid December, so it was pretty quick. We didn't have 96 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 2: to wait too long, which was nice. But we aired 97 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: the pilot and we were supposed to be a mid 98 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: season uh drop in, and they wanted to wait until 99 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: the fall to launch us and do a proper launch, 100 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: and so they aired the pilot and then it was 101 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: months and months and months before we actually aired the whole. 102 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: Yeah oh interesting, wow, But it was right after High 103 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: School Musical, Like I think, you know, we filmed the 104 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: pilot a year after Hih School Musical came out, and 105 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: so first one after the first one, and like we 106 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: all auditioned for I auditioned for a high school musical 107 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: and we're watching it because it was like we all 108 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: grew up doing you know, I did music and TV 109 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: genit did musical theater, and it was like, there's not 110 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: many opportunities to be able to join those things together. 111 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: So high school musical was sort of it for like 112 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: people in our age range. And I remember when that 113 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: came out and it blew up. It was just sort 114 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: of shocking. And I know when people ask us all 115 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: the time, like, oh, do you know Glee was going 116 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: to be successful? Like no, but we we enjoyed the experience. 117 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: The experience to us was special. 118 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 119 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: And we talked to Lucas last week and he was, 120 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, he was saying, how you know, you guys 121 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: they were rehearsing and you're shooting in Utah and you 122 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: all became a family and you bonded and you had 123 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: that special experience. But like then it's sort of you 124 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: don't you don't know, you have no idea. 125 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, that's I'm to answer your question. Like 126 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 3: nobody knew. Everybody was just excited to have a job. 127 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 3: I mean, it was a small budget, four week shoot. 128 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: It was like a little to see movie. Now. I 129 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: knew Kenny Ortega from a long time ago. I met 130 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: him on the set of Newsies, which was a big 131 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: Disney movie, one. 132 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: Of the best, one of our favorites. 133 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. You of course, you guys would have really appreciate that. 134 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes, yeah, I know. 135 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: I was just get my It was funny because my 136 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 3: mom was actually the hairstylist on Newsy's. So I was 137 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 3: like hanging out. But then I got to be you know, 138 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 3: got to know Christa Bale and Dave Moscow and Ellie 139 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: Keats and like, the guys became my friends and they 140 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: were my age. Was the whole reason. It is the 141 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 3: reason I became an actor, because I was like, wait, well, 142 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: you guys, you're it's amazing, Like you're doing this for 143 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: a living, like I'm I'm dropping out of college. Which yeah, 144 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 3: to my parents, you know, alright, he's. 145 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: Done, all right, it's okay. 146 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: It's take a long time before they thought it was okay. 147 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, but uh, so I knew Kenny had done 148 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: something really amazing and uh and then he did, of 149 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: course hocus Pocus after that, so I know, he's he's 150 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: got this big, huge vision and he's choreographed Michael Jackson's 151 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 3: Tourist for fourteen years, choreographed so many amazing dirty dancing 152 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 3: and Xander due by all these big, amazing, iconic movies. 153 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: So I knew it was like something really special. That's 154 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: why when when he called me and said, Disney's casting 155 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: this this uh this movie. It's a Disney Channel movie. 156 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: But they're giving me my selects, Like here's the people 157 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 3: that have worked in the Disney Channel world. We want 158 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: you to pick from this group of people. Went through 159 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: all of them, and he's like, this is not this 160 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,119 Speaker 3: is not my coach. Like, I got to find my coach. 161 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: And so he called me and he said you were 162 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: the coach. You're my coach. So I was like, okay, 163 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 3: and he's. 164 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: Like, look at the DEALA just calling you. 165 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: I know it's amazing, but you know it was I 166 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: had to go audition for the thing. And he said, uh, 167 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: you know, it's a little movie. It's it's it's a 168 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: Disney it's just a Disney Channel movie. Not a lot 169 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: of people are going to see it. There's no money involved, 170 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: there's no name. We're just calling it high school musical 171 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: until we come up with a name, but we're going 172 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: to go to you U Tom or have a blast, 173 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: come be my coach. And I was like okay, So 174 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: I went into audition for it. I didn't get it, 175 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: and then like a few days later, he goes, well, 176 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: happy you didn't get the part, and he's like, well, 177 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know, and he's like what 178 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: did you wear? And I'm like it's like a T shirt. 179 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: And I'd never played his dad before and played a coach, 180 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: like I was always like. 181 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: Playing for you, and when you auditioned for this. 182 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: That's a good question, I bet I was like, uh, 183 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: thirty thirty, early thirties. I was early thirty. So like, well, 184 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: he goes, you can't go in like dressed, like you know, 185 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: you got to Payn's dad, And I'm like, who's that Gfron? 186 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: Like at that point, like nobody knew who the this 187 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: soon to be superstar was. You know, you've done one 188 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: little show before summer Land, a. 189 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: Little Summerland I love, Yeah, yeah. 190 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. But uh so he got me a screen 191 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: test after that and he had me put Gray in 192 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: like I don't really have great still and my fake 193 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 3: heavens it's common. It's kind of I know, it's kind of. 194 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: I think it's kin of. But you put me gray 195 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: in my hair, like put on like a snow back 196 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 3: and he goes go in there and actor age. I'm like, okay, 197 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: but like I had to be like sixteen years old 198 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: to have a son that age of the time. So 199 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 3: it was like, you know, I tried so hard to 200 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 3: get that move and then it got the part, and 201 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 3: then I said, I'm not too young to play this role, 202 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: you know. After Yeah, but I don't think there was 203 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: any really any indication that it was going to be 204 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 3: as big as it, Like, there no idea. There was 205 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: this moment though, when we were shooting you know, the 206 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 3: song stick to the Status quote was like in the 207 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: cat it's so good. And I remember sitting there like 208 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: watching that and I was sitting a video village and 209 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 3: I was watching Kenny's monitors and I was like, this 210 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: is this doesn't feel I mean, I'm still didn't think 211 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 3: it was a big, big deal, but I was like, 212 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: this doesn't feel small. Right. Y was pretty special and 213 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 3: he had just uh, he just directed the opening closing 214 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 3: ceremonies of the Winter Olympics. And like, you know that was. 215 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: Like his vis world. 216 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like this big and he's like, I'm going 217 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: to make it a little dizzy channel. But so, you know, 218 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 3: I think that the success can be uh you know, 219 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 3: sort of followed back right right to Kenny Otakea's door. 220 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 221 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: But then but still then what was interesting about it is, uh, 222 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 3: there was no special press. They didn't like promote it 223 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 3: any different than any other shows. Really no indication. We 224 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: had a little premiere on the you know, the little 225 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: movie theater on the Disney lot. It's a tiny, little, 226 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: yeah theater, little that was our premiere. I remember it 227 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: was raining, like we're all clothes are wet, and you know, 228 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, whatever, I drove by motorcycle of the 229 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: raid excided. I don't know why, but uh, I think choices. Well, 230 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: I'm like my shirts all wet in the premiere photos 231 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: and it was like a big deal. And then out 232 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: of nowhere, the movie premiered and the next day the 233 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 3: reports came in. It was the most watched cable show 234 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: ever of all time, eighteen million people. Just staggering numbers, 235 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: crazy numbers. Yeah. 236 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: Wow, we were both we were both one of those people. Yeah, yeah, 237 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: oh yeah, really, yeah, yeah, it's amazing. 238 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: It's amazing to me that it resonated so much just 239 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: in the promo material that it would have such a 240 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: not only did it have like the growth that it did, 241 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 3: but what was it like while the movie is promoted 242 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 3: that got you guys like, oh this is we're stoked 243 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: to watch this? Like I don't, I don't still, you know. 244 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: I think like the perfect combination of like the sort 245 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: of cliche high school aesthetic of it all and then 246 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: having a musical that that never happens like at that 247 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: at that time, you know, like Chicago had come out 248 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: several years before Mulan Rouge, like those things are in 249 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: the zeitgeist, but there was that's for like older people, right, 250 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: like there was nothing for teens, and like Disney Channel 251 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: had a new movie every single month on Disney Channel, 252 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: and it was they were always so different, but there 253 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: was also a formula to it. And so I feel 254 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: like they broke their formula a bit with it. And then, 255 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: like you said, the Kenny Ortega of it all, where 256 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: it feels and looks different when you have someone of 257 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: that expertise level, yeah doing it and somehow it's like 258 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: one of those magical things where like you can't ever 259 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: plan for a hit, but everything aligned, like that's what 260 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: the people wanted, and you had the right people in it. 261 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: You had the right people doing it behind the scenes, right, 262 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: And I mean it struck a chord clearly, not just 263 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: with us, but millions and millions of people. And you know, 264 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: we were talking about when we were doing a TV 265 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: show and you're locked away on the stages and you're 266 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: able to film it and if it's like you know, 267 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: we were food film an episode and it'd be on 268 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: air in three weeks, but you were never in public. 269 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: When you do a movie, it's a very different experience. 270 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: And so and I imagine for you, like with our show, 271 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: where there were like quote unquote the adults and then us, 272 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: even though sometimes we were only a few years apart, 273 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: those are different experiences within the show. And so I'm 274 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: wondering how for you, like when that show, when that 275 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: movie came out and blew up, all of you became 276 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: immediately recognizable to everyone, because it's like, if you're famous 277 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: with kids, you're then famous with the parents, you're famous 278 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: with an entire household. And so what did that feel like? 279 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: Because like you shot this thing. You don't hear anything 280 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: for months, it's not out comes out and literally for you, 281 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: overnight it became this gigantic wild thing. Yeah, what was 282 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: that like you going in public after that? 283 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 3: Well, it was actually for me. I think my experience 284 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 3: is probably totally different than everyone else because when that shoot, 285 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 3: when that show blew up, everybody was after Zach, Vanessa 286 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: and Ashley Corp Like they're all like the you know, 287 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: they were hunting them down, like this is the new crop. 288 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: Like these guys resonate, they're the superstars. We want them 289 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 3: like old guys stepped to the back. And the whole 290 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: time it was a little bit of like there's a little 291 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 3: uh dose of humility there the whole time. You know, 292 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: at that point in my career, I'd done you know, 293 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 3: I don't know, fifty movies or something like that before 294 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 3: I did this one. And this is the first one 295 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 3: where it's like, Okay, now everybody's gonna play basketball. You 296 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 3: go stand over there, and I was like, what, like, yeah, 297 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: I used to play basketball in the movies that I 298 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 3: the stand of the side, So that was a little different. 299 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: And I think when like when the movie blew up, 300 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: like nobody really cared about me, Like, like I think, 301 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 3: to be honest, I think it like kind of hurt 302 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: my career a little bit for like ten years because 303 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: it's like you're not going to go get on like 304 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: a cool HBO show, like you guys know how it is, Like, 305 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 3: especially back then, it's like that's not the guy they're 306 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 3: looking for, or who played the dad in the Disney Channel. 307 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: It was like this, that's not that's not cool. There's 308 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 3: nothing cool about that. So uh, just the success that 309 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: a Disney channel is different than when it becomes like 310 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: an iconic global phenomenon that that becomes a little different. 311 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: So for me from my experience, like the first I 312 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 3: don't know, several years, I couldn't go to like an 313 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 3: elementary school. The parents didn't know who I was, Like 314 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: no one had a clue, Like nobody could hire me 315 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: knew who I was. But like I got a video 316 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 3: of being like sworn by like hundreds of kids in 317 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: elementary school. I did take my kids elementary. It was crazy. 318 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: But then I go to junior high. Nobody knew who 319 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: I was. And then a couple of years later my 320 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 3: kids are all like in this eight like the same 321 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 3: age of like the target demographic. So you're high, and 322 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: then it's like this is crazy to your high and 323 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 3: then a few years later, now it's crazy in high school. 324 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: And now it's like now it's like for some reason, 325 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 3: it's almost like elementary school, junior high, heavy in college 326 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 3: and in high school. So it's like the demographics got older, 327 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: and then I get now I've got I got a 328 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: couple of jobs, like on TV, Like I did a 329 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 3: show I did All American and the showrunner I was 330 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: working on show as a guest. I was cool, it 331 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: was great, great job. And then the show when I 332 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: came from Wondering, it's like I'm a big wildcat. I 333 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: was like, oh, let's go have jobs. I love it, 334 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: and she was students could be. But yeah, that war 335 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: is pretty nice. So now now that it's like global, 336 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: it's different and like I feel like I get recognized 337 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: more now, Like just the last month, I mean I 338 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: was stopped in the airport maybe twenty five times for photos. Wow, 339 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 3: more way more now than it was twenty years ago. Yeah. 340 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: Right, set streaming and it's like new crop of kids, 341 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: like we have kids who are too young to watch 342 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: Glee when it was on, but now are those teenagers 343 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: now that are re you know, they're rediscovering this new show. 344 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: And you went and did High School Musical the TV 345 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: show in the last season, right, yeah, yeah wow for. 346 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 3: The final season. Yeah that was fun. 347 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: Wild? Is that to like come back and it still 348 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: lives on like that? 349 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 3: That was wild? That was wild. I mean it's been 350 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: so funs but it's like the greatest gift ever. You know, 351 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: I've done I've been working for like like three decades 352 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 3: now in Hollywood, and it's like I've done one movie 353 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 3: that has like touches people's souls where they come up 354 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: to you and they say things like and you guys 355 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: probably get this too, because like I don't know something 356 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 3: from musicals they like they yes, they go deep with people. 357 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 3: And then you, guys, you had a pretty young audience too, right, 358 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: like a lot of people. So then they come up 359 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: to you and say things like you don't understand, like 360 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: how many people like the sentence starts like that, right, 361 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: you don't understand. I needed this, Like this helped me. 362 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 3: This is they all got a story and it's like 363 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: this is the greatest gift ever. I love it. I 364 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: love it best. 365 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: So happy you feel that way because you're you keep 366 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: saying you're like, you know, I've done a bunch of movies. 367 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: I've been doing this for three decades. But it's like, 368 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: how lucky are we to be in something just like 369 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: one thing that affects people like that. It's such a 370 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: tough no. 371 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 3: I totally like a lot of people, like, I mean, 372 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: sure you guys interview people are like they don't want 373 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 3: to talk about that thing. They've moved on. I want 374 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 3: to focus on, you know, like I'm doing something. You know, 375 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 3: I've been. I'm on Landman, I'm recurrent on Landman right now, 376 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 3: I'm not. But you know, like it's not special like 377 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 3: this one, you know, and people tell me like I 378 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 3: do tiktoks and throwbacks and the comments are always so 379 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 3: nice on social media. I swear I've got the nicest followers, 380 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 3: the nicest comments, and then every once a while someone 381 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 3: will be nasty and they're like, move on, bro, come on, dude, 382 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: move on. Why why it makes people happy? I love it, 383 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 3: like I think it so I fully embrace it and 384 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not trying to shy away from it. Ever. Yeah, 385 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: it's a gift. I think it's such a gift to 386 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: be a part of something like that. 387 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 2: So I heard that on your podcast. You said there 388 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 2: was supposed to be a musical number Coach Balton and 389 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: Missus Darvis. What happened? 390 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so mad about you just gets so upset 391 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 3: about this. I like, I think about just dreaming about 392 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 3: like going to battle with miss Darvus and Kenny Ortega's 393 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 3: directing like this amazing, funny, comical relief number of anything 394 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 3: you could do, I could do better, you know any 395 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 3: get your gun type of song. And it was so 396 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 3: bummed he did that, and and Disney just said, you know, 397 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 3: you know how they do. It's always like, oh, let's 398 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: cut the script down, let's get it down, get the 399 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 3: minutes down. What's the first thing to go the old people, 400 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 3: get rid of the old door. What's the old people dancing? 401 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, they do, Yes, they do. Look at 402 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 3: my TikTok. They like to see they like to see 403 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: old people dance. 404 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: So it was it was just. 405 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: A little I love about like thirty years old, you're 406 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 1: the old people. 407 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 3: Right right? That is exactly. It's just mean. It's a 408 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 3: mean and cruel Did. 409 00:18:59,359 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: You grow up do? 410 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 3: Like? 411 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: Are you musical? Did you grow up doing I did. 412 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: I did. Uh. I did musical theater growing up. Yeah, 413 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: I started at this. Uh well, I did all the 414 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 3: shows in high school, Like I did all the shows 415 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 3: here and and in high school I did I played 416 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 3: action Who got the Officer krup Key song in West 417 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 3: Side Story? And that was like and I wasn't like 418 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 3: I really wasn't pursuing it all. I just liked it. It 419 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 3: was fun. I was in choir and I was, you know, 420 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 3: doing the shows and just I was in a school 421 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 3: where you kind of do every You can do the 422 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 3: sports and you could do the like I was a 423 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: semi professional skier at the mobile skier at the time. 424 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: Like I was trying to like do to play soccer. 425 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: And you went a real Troy Bolton kind of. 426 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was kind of where it was like really 427 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 3: easy to do everything like just which is kind of 428 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: a bumber because like you can't really do that now. 429 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 3: You gotta like pick your lane, you know, stick there 430 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 3: and just like obsessed with as one. But like back 431 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 3: then you could do it all. So I did West 432 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 3: Side Story and uh and there's this guy, Alan Bluth, 433 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 3: he was the local physical therapist, and he said he 434 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 3: took me backstage. She said, hey, man, you could do this, 435 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 3: You could do this for a living. And I was like, Okay, whatever, fuddy. 436 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 3: Even though I grew up with it, like I grew 437 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 3: up on the set like my mom did hair for 438 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: Mork and Mini and Brady Bunch, Charlie's Angels like all this. Yeah, 439 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 3: she's done like hair forever and all. So I was 440 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: always there and saw it, but I didn't really see 441 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 3: a lot of people in my age until Newsy's, and 442 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 3: I didn't really see it seemed too even though I 443 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: was present. I was like, you know, I was in 444 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: the hair makeup trailer. I was a kid in the 445 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: corner where right, And now it's like, uh, I do 446 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: Newsies And it's like, oh, it's a little bit more. 447 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: You know, you're laying I'm like those are those guys are? Yeah? 448 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, a cool house of the Hollywood Hills and like 449 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 3: you don't live with your parents, like this is pretty. 450 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: You're like maybe that's amazing. 451 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 3: And then and then I went back to After Newsies, 452 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: I went back to college and I was doing show 453 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 3: after ship. I just kind of got the bug. That's 454 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 3: where I really got the bug, and I was trying 455 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 3: to do school and I was trying to do theater 456 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: all the same time. Well I was. I was going 457 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: show to show show, so as soon as one was clothes, 458 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 3: I was rehearsals or another. So and I loved it 459 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 3: so much fun. And then one night I rolled my 460 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 3: car because I wasn't getting any sleep, and I was like, 461 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 3: that's my little reminder of this little scar right there. 462 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 3: O can you see it? Catch my little looks for 463 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: a small camera when it looks small small in real life. 464 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 3: Lets be honest, but that's a little that's my little 465 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 3: reminder of like, you know, like you gotta pick. Sometimes 466 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: you gotta pick, and you gotta sleep. I fell asleep 467 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 3: hold my car, my brother's Straco, sorry Adam, And uh yeah, 468 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 3: it was as a bummer, and I was at that 469 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 3: point I was like I better pick one. And then 470 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 3: I just did it. I just happened to get somebody 471 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: asked me to get an agent, and and I did 472 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 3: a little guest spot on a show called Crossroads. I 473 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 3: still didn't like, I didn't want to be an like 474 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 3: I wasn't pursuing it being an actor. Like it was 475 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 3: like I just got having to get this audition. 476 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: It just happened to be really good at it. 477 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think so. Actually I don't 478 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 3: belink it was all that good. Like I felt like 479 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: I was an acting class for like the next ten years, 480 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 3: trying to like become a decent actor. But I got 481 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 3: I don't know, I fit the costume or something. I 482 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 3: don't know what it was, but I got the part. 483 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 3: And then and then anyway, it's like I got sucked in. 484 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: See all it takes one car role and then. 485 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: Sometimes you see a little little gentler wake up call, and. 486 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: Then luckily for us, you you know, ended up being 487 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: like I feel like those roles where you play like 488 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: this dad that everybody loves right, where like you're sort 489 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: of like the aspirational dad, where like if people come 490 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: up to you, like me seeing you, I automatically have 491 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: all this like goodwill towards you, because like your presence 492 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: on screen and in those movies is always just like 493 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: so warm. You're like, oh, I wish my parent was 494 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: this accepting sort of thing. And I feel like that's 495 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: also such a gift to be able to, like, you know, 496 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: play a role that is liked and valued by so 497 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: many people like that, and a you know, and a 498 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: cast of like all these young people who all of 499 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: a sudden were like Oliver tabloids and things like that, 500 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: Like you get to be the steady force behind all 501 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: of it. 502 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 3: No, seriously, like that's one of the best compliments you 503 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 3: could you could possibly give me. You know, usually in 504 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 3: these movies you either play like the hard nose coach 505 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 3: or the loving support of dad or you know, usually 506 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: not both. So that's like, that's like by far my 507 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: favorite part of like the acting side of this is 508 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 3: first of all all my scenes or was Zach. Zach 509 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 3: was like took the job very serious, and he always 510 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: wanted to do something really meaningful with those scenes. You know, 511 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 3: he didn't phone anything in. He's like he really wanted 512 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 3: to do great work here. He's always had like aspirations 513 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 3: of being a really great actor, and he took his 514 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: series and so did Kenny. So I got to like, 515 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: you know, kind of walk that line between like being 516 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 3: the coach is like listen, son, you got it, you know, 517 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 3: get your love at home. But it's like, you know, 518 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: I am the home too, So yeah, you know, so 519 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 3: I tried to like have humanity with every kind of 520 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 3: you know scene I approached with him. 521 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 2: And it's like, no, it showed you guys, definitely it was. 522 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: It was dynamic, and it's like, yes, it's Disney, of course, 523 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: but like everybody we were talking about the movie after 524 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 2: we watched it, and so everybody is so committed. And 525 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if that was Kenny being like, let's 526 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 2: just like dig in or you know, just these actors 527 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 2: and all of you guys just being like, we're just 528 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: going to do it, But there was something in the 529 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: water that was like, you guys just bought in so 530 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 2: deeply that there was no other option but for the 531 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 2: audience to buy in as well. 532 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, yeah, I think it all started with 533 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: Kenny for sure, Like he he was like this, you know, 534 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 3: he was so big, it's done so many great things, 535 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 3: but he took I mean, this was just as serious 536 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 3: as he took. It felt like to me as he 537 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 3: was on New Seas, which was you know, I don't 538 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 3: know what was one hundred million dollars big Disney music, 539 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 3: Like that's a lot of money back then. That's like 540 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 3: a yeah, a huge movie. But he kind of approached 541 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 3: it the same way, like there's no off switch on there. 542 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 3: We go to sushi at night and he's like, Okay, 543 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 3: listen on this scene. Hear think about this dialogue? What 544 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 3: do you think about this? You know, he's just bump bump, 545 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 3: just always. He rewrote the music, he wrote the lyrics, 546 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: the dialogue. Like he was so invested always, and you 547 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 3: feel extensive and on set it's like, we're we're gonna 548 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 3: make something amazing here. So I think it's a yeah, 549 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 3: he was the captain of the ship man. He really 550 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 3: is responsible for all that. 551 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: I feel like that sort of answers you know, the 552 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: thing we were talking about when we first started talking about, 553 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: what was that thing that made it just work? You know? 554 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: It was a Disney Channel movie that they advertised the 555 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: same as everybody else. And I think maybe it is 556 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: having someone like Kenny at the helm who is that 557 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: invested of every facet of it, especially when you don't 558 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: have the budget right where like he can sort of 559 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: fill in all those blanks because he has the experience 560 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: of working on the bigger budget things. And I think 561 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: that also makes sense as to why your scenes with 562 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: Zach and all of you in that movie it felt 563 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: it did feel different as someone who grew up watching 564 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: you know, the movie of the month on Disney Channels. 565 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: Something about that movie inherently did feel different and elevated 566 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: and really good way when you had all those levels, 567 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: you had like the crazy campness of a musical and 568 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: of theater kids in high school who can be a 569 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: little unbearable, no offense, Jenna, and then then to have 570 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: like the really moving scenes between you guys and everybody 571 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: taking it really seriously. That's so that is like I 572 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: feel like when people get hired for like something that 573 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: might be a Disney Channel movie, it'd be easy to 574 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: sort of like roll your eyes at it maybe or 575 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, well, this isn't going to be my 576 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: career defining thing that I hope to get when I 577 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: moved to La to do this sort of thing, right, 578 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: But when you have someone like Kenny who is a 579 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: really serious filmmaker, and all of you who take it 580 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: really seriously, it's just yeah, that comes across in every 581 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: single scene. 582 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: Definitely. Let's talk about your podcast for a second. So 583 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: you said you're really enjoying doing it. What is the 584 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 2: hope of this podcast for you to have hopes and 585 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 2: dreams for your podcast? 586 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: Well, yes, I really have been I don't know, spoiled rotten, 587 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 3: with the fans over the last twenty years, and I've 588 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 3: been thinking for the last year, what can I do, 589 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 3: What can I do to celebrate and say thank you? 590 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: Like just what's a big thank you to the fans? 591 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 3: What can I do for them? And I've got a 592 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 3: couple of things cooking. They're kind of still like a 593 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 3: little secrets coming out, but I want to do some 594 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 3: really fun things to celebrate with them. And I thought, 595 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: man if I could, I know, everybody's been interviewed to death, 596 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 3: but you know, not by me, not by a guy 597 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 3: that was there. So like since I was like the 598 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 3: adult on the set, like I could go and I 599 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 3: know really special things about all of them that people 600 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 3: don't really know, you know, like miss Darbus was in 601 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 3: Cabaret on Broadway with Kenny, Like people don't realize she's 602 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: not you know, she's not Darbus. She's like a big 603 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 3: Broadway start. Like there's really super interesting things about these 604 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 3: people I want to talk about and say, you know, 605 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 3: they were great in high school musical because they were 606 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 3: already great and they like what was so good to 607 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 3: you know, to the to the film. So yeah, that's 608 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: kind of I mean, really that's only my only goal 609 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 3: is like just to entertain everybody and say thank you 610 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 3: and give back. And if there's any way I can 611 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 3: do it, I'm in. I'm in. If this podcast could 612 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 3: do it, then it's awesome. So I don't almost, you know, 613 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 3: we'll see. As long as it's great a lot of the 614 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 3: wildcats are out there and they want it, then then 615 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 3: I'll yeah, dish it up. 616 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: No, I think I think you're going to achieve that more. 617 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: I think that was our intention with you know exactly 618 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: our podcast, and it's really been me yeah, and it's 619 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: been like so the best part has been interviewing the 620 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: people that we know so well and worked with for 621 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: so long. 622 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 623 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, there is that that lack of barrier that is 624 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: so great that you can't talk about things that you 625 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: won't get anywhere else, and it is like such a 626 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: joy and a gift. And I'm so excited for you 627 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: to be able to like do that for all of 628 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: us who can listen to it and hear those conversations, 629 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: because I think they'll be really meaningful, not just for us, 630 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: but like for you and whoever you know you end 631 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: up having on the show. 632 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's awesome. That's so cool. Yeah, we are. 633 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 3: We are kindred spirits. We are lucky, the lucky few. 634 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 3: You know, I talked to uh sometimes talking to film people. 635 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 3: I'm sure you guys have too, have plenty of you know, 636 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 3: it's like our whole careers. You go to a TV 637 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 3: show or a movie and it's like it's kind of 638 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: all the same. Like you show up whatever the scene is, 639 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 3: you're shooting the master. Then you go into your you know, 640 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 3: your coverage, your singles or whatever, then your inserts and okay, 641 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 3: we got now we move on. Okay, next master covered singles, 642 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 3: move on. And then it's like then you do a musical, 643 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 3: and it's like you do this this Okay, everybody stop, 644 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: it's the musical number time, and you just like I 645 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 3: get my bag of popcorn out, and I'm like, oh heck, yeah. 646 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: Man, enjoy the show exactly. 647 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 3: I love the b I love that. It's like it's 648 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 3: so unique and so interesting that way. I guess maybe 649 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 3: equivalent to like, you know, like working on a Tom 650 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 3: Cruise movie where you're like shooting the seezes and then 651 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 3: it's like huge production to watch the show the big stunts. 652 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that's probably that's probably a good comparison. 653 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: You know, we're all basically Tom Cruise, We're basically Tom. 654 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 3: We're living. Yeah, did you guys have that kind of 655 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 3: experience where it's like you're just kind of shoot your 656 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 3: you know, you're shooting shoes, shoot and then it's like, oh, 657 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 3: it's musical time. It's like a musical number, and like, 658 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: did you take a day to shoot a music? Like? Guse, 659 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 3: how many day I'm just gonna say, you don't have 660 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: because how many days it is production for you guys? 661 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 2: Ten? We never made it, so it was supposed to 662 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: be eight. 663 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: It was scheduled for eight, but it was never eight. 664 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 3: Okay, I say ten tens a lot, that's a that's 665 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 3: a good budget. But eight days and then you got 666 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 3: musical numbers. 667 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 2: My gosh, eight hours. I think eight hours for a 668 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: musical number. 669 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: But well, you just described Also, I think resonates because 670 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: like the quote unquote adults on our show or like 671 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: the crew members, that's how they would talk about the 672 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: musical numbers. You know, you have like your scenes, like oh, 673 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: they're going to do a musical number. For us, it 674 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: ended up being the same thing as doing dialogue scenes 675 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: because we shot them pretty methodically where we had our 676 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: master the wide and then we would move in, you know, 677 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: and then end up on steady cam and close ups, 678 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,479 Speaker 1: just how you would normally do a scene. So for 679 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: us it wasn't necessarily that, but I think for the 680 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: other people on the show it was. It was exactly 681 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: what you described. 682 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 3: I got a question for you, guys. So obviously you 683 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 3: work really hard on your musical numbers, right like days 684 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 3: before whatever you get the music you learn that, you 685 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 3: guys are on a schedule. But so you're learning it 686 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 3: obviously before the day you shoot and you get it 687 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: down and you lock it in. So wait, a minute's on. 688 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: The day on the day, yeah. 689 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I can't imagine. 690 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,959 Speaker 2: Wow, hours hours before yeah. 691 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh mystume on the stage learning. 692 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 3: Okay, So so when you when you did you guys 693 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 3: always have a rap party at the end of your season, like. 694 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: A proper rap party sometimes. 695 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 3: Okay, these questions are really not going in the direction 696 00:31:59,640 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: I lot of. 697 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 2: Knock your questions. 698 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 3: No, I love it, I love it. But during the 699 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 3: rap party, did you guys out did they ever put 700 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 3: the songs on and you recreated the dances? Never? No, interesting? Interesting? Never? 701 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: No, we were so music out at that point, like 702 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 2: our guys are the grind Yoh no, truly. Our crew 703 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: like the next day would be singing the song that 704 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: we shot the day before, and it wasn't like, oh 705 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 2: like our crew is amazing and they're so wonderful and 706 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 2: happy and really like uplifted us. But the day after 707 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: they'd be singing this song and you'd see like the 708 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: frustration on their face that they couldn't get it out 709 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 2: of their head. We're like just so deep in it 710 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 2: that you're like, I cannot stop hearing this song in 711 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: my head. No please. 712 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: I mean I think we were doing We're averaging like 713 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: a little over one hundred songs per season, so we 714 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: were a little my g. 715 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. 716 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: By the rap party, were like, let's have a silent party. 717 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 3: Oh well okay, I'm let me tell you a story 718 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 3: that you maybe a little jealous of because just being 719 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: musical theater people that you are. So we had like 720 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 3: we'd have a few weeks of rehearsal before we shot 721 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 3: the movie, and during those weeks, well, first of you 722 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 3: your music, like long before we started rehearsals, So you 723 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 3: get the music, you record the music or the temp 724 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 3: tracks or whatever. You know what it is, and so 725 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 3: you learn the songs. You learn, then you come to rehearsal, 726 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 3: you learn the dance. Everybody's together like a group, like 727 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 3: a fun group, going, oh, we're going to summer camp. 728 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 3: We're going to you know, out of the state, and 729 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 3: we're gonna go stay in this hotel. We're gonna learn 730 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 3: this song. We're workally hard and we're with Kenny Is 731 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 3: doing his magic. You do all that, and then you 732 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 3: get on the on the day you shoot that song. 733 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 3: You know, like I'm just thinking of some of the 734 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 3: stuff from high school music one. Like you learn that song, 735 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 3: you shoot it, you shoot all day, like a whole 736 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 3: day blocked out of just magical dance number. And then 737 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 3: like the last shot of the day, the last time 738 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 3: they play that playback, it's almost like everybody's like emotional, 739 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 3: like you're crying, like this, we're never gonna do this 740 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 3: song again. We're never And I understand that's a different 741 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 3: dynamic for you guys with so many with such a workload, 742 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 3: but on set, like everybody is like near tears when 743 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 3: that song was over because you've been with it for 744 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 3: a couple of months now, like ah, and then at 745 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 3: the end of the day, it's like emotional and everybody's 746 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 3: you know, hugget it out. 747 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: So that makes sense. 748 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 3: Then you walk away and you're like that moment, like 749 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 3: that is on forever. That's like it's so sad. And 750 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 3: then you go to the rap party and then someone 751 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 3: has the idea of like out of the blue, they 752 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 3: put the song on, like the DJ puts a song on. 753 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 3: Everybody's let's go, let's go. Go, All right, let's go, 754 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 3: and they start doing the day and then everybody comes out. 755 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 3: They do the dance and you're standing in the circle 756 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 3: like with the cast and like recreating that song like 757 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 3: one last time, and now you know for sure this 758 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 3: is really the last time. 759 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. That's beautiful. 760 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 2: You loved it so much that to want to create 761 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 2: it again. That's a beautiful thing, right, Like I get 762 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 2: that towards that, you know, series finale. For us, it's 763 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 2: it's different when you're on TV show and you know 764 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 2: there's another season coming, another episode coming, or working out 765 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 2: have that right, versus a movie that's so compact in time. 766 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 2: We ask everybody on the podcast when we were doing 767 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 2: Glee Recap, what is the feeling that Lee leaves you with. 768 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 2: But we want to turn that on its head a 769 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 2: little bit and ask you what is the feeling that 770 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 2: high school musical leaves you with? 771 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 3: Oh? Like now, like like what does it feel like? Now? 772 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean anything and just the experience for you? 773 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was uh man, I was. I felt that 774 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 3: all the way through because you know, when you know, 775 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 3: you guys had this big, long workload, but ours was 776 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,439 Speaker 3: like you have a month, like you have one one 777 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 3: month and you're of work, of shooting or or the 778 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,439 Speaker 3: last one was six weeks. You know, like six weeks 779 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 3: and you're going home and it just feels like so 780 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 3: nostalgic and you know, like, well you do. It was 781 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 3: only supposed to be one movie. It was never supposed 782 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 3: to be two or three. So we thought the first 783 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 3: one was like, oh this is really special. Oh well yeah, 784 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 3: oh this is so cool. Would be friends forever, and 785 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 3: then to be able to do it a second one 786 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 3: was like this is amazing. But when we did segment, 787 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 3: they're alread talking about number three, so it's like it 788 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 3: became like this, like oh, this is so fun. It's 789 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 3: like it's more like doing a series in the sense 790 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 3: we get to see each other again and continue these 791 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 3: storylines in not just a one off like a movie. 792 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 3: So but boy, since then, I just feel I still 793 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 3: feel a sense of like nossalgy. I feel blessed, I 794 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 3: feel like so lucky, just a sense of gratitude of 795 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 3: like I got to be a part of something that 796 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 3: means so much to people and now I have a gift. 797 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 3: I've been given this gift where I can make a 798 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 3: video for someone that takes me a minute. You know, 799 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 3: it's like someone going through a hard time or something. 800 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 3: And the response I get is ridiculous. Oh my guys, 801 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 3: that's guy. I get we all coach. I was like, 802 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 3: it was took no effort, Like, it's just it's it's 803 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 3: pretty amazing to be I mean, all of us have 804 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 3: been a part of something that means a lot to people, 805 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 3: and it's it's really gives me a lot of a 806 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 3: lot of gratitude. 807 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's beautiful. You sum that up. I think you 808 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: speak for so many of us who have been in 809 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: similar experiences, like amount of like joy that radiates through 810 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: you and you're talking about this is how we feel. 811 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: It's we feel it from you. It's so nice to 812 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: be able to talk to you about all of this. 813 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 3: That's cool man. Yeah, we're all kindred spirits. 814 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you so much for taking the time 815 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 2: to come on the podcast, and we hope that everybody 816 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 2: goes and listens to your podcast. 817 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: Tell everyone where to find it. 818 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, it's it magical, rewind iHeart radio. Wherever you 819 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 3: get your podcast? I think it's on everything, right, am 820 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 3: I saying it? Right? You guys? 821 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 2: Okay, you did, you did it right? 822 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 3: And then follow my social media's Bart Underscore Johnson and 823 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 3: I promote the heck out of it everywhere there so 824 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 3: they'll be all the links and stuff. 825 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 2: Well, I hope you have such a good time with 826 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 2: the podcast and enjoy it as much as we've enjoyed 827 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 2: doing ours as well, and doing it for your fans. 828 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to like check back in in a 829 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: year and how you're doing, and. 830 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 3: We'll talk at the Christmas party. I hope in five 831 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 3: years like at your your level here, guys. 832 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: Oh please, you're already better than us. Nice to meet 833 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: you and thanks for having me. 834 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 3: Guys are awesome and I literally can't wait to us 835 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 3: see you a person. 836 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: Yes, likewise, Christmas part of it. 837 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 2: Okay, bye, well, Bart, We thanks so much for joining 838 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,720 Speaker 2: us and taking the time to chat with us. And 839 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 2: I hope that he has like such a wonderful experience 840 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 2: connecting with the fans like we've had obviously on our podcast, 841 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 2: because it sounds like, you know, it's some such a 842 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 2: similar experience. Having the ability to now connect in this 843 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 2: way has been like it's just it's really different and 844 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 2: amazing and exciting. 845 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: So and I think it's naturally really good at this 846 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: and like curious and is going to give great interviews. 847 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: So I'm excited for him. I'm excited for us to 848 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: get to listen to it. Thank you Bart so much 849 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: for coming on and talking about these high school musical 850 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: crew people are. 851 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 2: The great the greatest. His podcast is called get your 852 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 2: Head in the Game, and it's within the magical rewind feed, 853 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 2: so you can search either one, I'm sure, and you 854 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 2: can find him and find the podcast. And that's what 855 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:22,479 Speaker 2: you're really missed. 856 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening and follow us on Instagram at and 857 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: that's what you really miss pod. Make sure to write 858 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: us a review and leave us five stars. See you 859 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: next time.