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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, August nine, and this is Jackuars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour today is brought to you by the

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Speaker 1: Fields Aunto Group and now a guy who wouldn't describe

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Speaker 1: the Browns coaching drama as colorful, but thinks it's something

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Speaker 1: different you j P. Shadrick, see what you did there,

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Speaker 1: Joe so Fortunato, Welcome in, j P. Shadrick, John Os,

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Speaker 1: You're Jaguars Happy Our, presented by the Field's Auto Group

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Speaker 1: on this Wednesday. I never really know what Joe is

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Speaker 1: gonna say there, but it's probably better that way. I'm

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Speaker 1: not happy, j Why not? What are you upset about?

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour? I'm not particularly halfy. What's in that cup?

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Speaker 1: Oh coffee? We can make you happy real quick. It's

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Speaker 1: something in there. It's happy So it's happy hour. It's

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Speaker 1: four o'clock. Teams leaving the the plane is getting warmed up,

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Speaker 1: the buses are getting warmed up outside, and then you'll

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Speaker 1: be in Tampa to night. Yeah, all my bags are packed.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. Can't wait. It's not that's a

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Speaker 1: play to get to in the show today. Here are

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Speaker 1: the big three things today we'll review the kickoff lunch

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Speaker 1: in the Back to Football kickoff lunch and today at

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Speaker 1: t I A. Bank Field and the East us as

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Speaker 1: Shut Club. The team is off to Tampa. We'll get

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Speaker 1: some final thoughts about some guys to watch, some position groups.

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Speaker 1: We'll have Jeff Logman in to join us segment three

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Speaker 1: here and yeah, we're gonna go deep tracks. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: go deep down the album as we always do, to

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Speaker 1: find those tracks, those cuts, those players that you want

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Speaker 1: to really watch that are hitting gyms for this game

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Speaker 1: leaving on a jet plane, not one that's not one

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Speaker 1: of them at all. So that'll that'll come up a

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Speaker 1: little bit later. It's start off with the luncheon today though,

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Speaker 1: the annual lunch and at t I A bank Field

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Speaker 1: Back to Football. The Jaguars Foundation puts it on and

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Speaker 1: it's a fantastic advantage and every year over six hundred

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Speaker 1: people there today, packed house, table after table, if the

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Speaker 1: ad tables each and every year. It seems like when

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Speaker 1: you win football games, people want to come et lunch

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Speaker 1: with the football team. That's kind of how that works.

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Speaker 1: And always a great scene here after the event today,

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Speaker 1: Doug Morone was excited about how things went this year

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Speaker 1: in this luncheon. I'm excited for the fans and the support,

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Speaker 1: I think. I think that's what you see. I think

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Speaker 1: you're you get excited about um. You know, their their

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Speaker 1: their anxiousness to get out there, and and how proud

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Speaker 1: we we put a lot of work in that in

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Speaker 1: the past and and and you know, last year we

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Speaker 1: felt like we let them down, meaning at this luncheon

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Speaker 1: last year that we haven't been good enough for a

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Speaker 1: long period of time. And you know, we have unfinished

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Speaker 1: business and we do it. But you know, I still

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Speaker 1: feel the weight of making sure that we feel the

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Speaker 1: team that you know, this city can be proud of.

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Speaker 1: So you know, when I see the fans and I

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Speaker 1: run into fans, whether it's out on this tree or

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Speaker 1: you know, I feel a greater sense of responsibility of

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Speaker 1: producing a good football team that has great results. Great

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Speaker 1: panel there today with the Tom cough On, Doug Marone,

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Speaker 1: of the lunch and didn't no offense to the coordinators

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Speaker 1: who did one as well. But you don't get to

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Speaker 1: hear from Tom Coughing a lot and Doug Moron, and

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Speaker 1: at a time, building the foundation. But they they left

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Speaker 1: but Tom basically said, hey, we're pleased with the progress

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Speaker 1: be pleased with it, they've got to get two steps further.

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Speaker 1: And they didn't say two steps further. They didn't specify

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl, but that was the tone. And Tom

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the tone. That's what I took

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Speaker 1: JP did you. It was pretty good salmon and steak

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Speaker 1: it was great. Thank you. Another thing during the lunch

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Speaker 1: of players were named. Tommy Bill Hannon the Sportsmanship and

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Speaker 1: Courage Award winner and Jaguars quarterback Blake Bortles the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Community Leader. He won that award today, and the quarterback said,

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Speaker 1: the entire team. Huge honor and super proud to be

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Speaker 1: and honored to be the guy. We've seen Blake portals

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Speaker 1: He loves being a part of this community. As he said,

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Speaker 1: each year to honor those guys. Did you stay for

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Speaker 1: the Coordinator portion? I did stay for the Coordinator a portion.

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Speaker 1: I laughed. Pretty good panel there with Todd Wash and

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Speaker 1: Washing has a future in comedy, but I laughed today.

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Speaker 1: The comment he made was that Jalen Ramsey was going

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Speaker 1: And he knows how to reach these guys. Good communicator.

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Speaker 1: news that Nathaniel hack It loves the quarterback and his

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Speaker 1: getting the math right, nearly two years as the quarterbacks coach,

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Speaker 1: Camillo's special teams coordinator, had some comments on the new

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Speaker 1: work in progress. Some of those rules are a little different.

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Speaker 1: But he also made a good point we'll here from

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Speaker 1: being an ace of a certain area, not necessarily as

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Speaker 1: seen guys make the roster in the final preseason game,

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Speaker 1: and he's seen guys that have performed well for the

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Speaker 1: look at those guys fighting for a job. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: that makes sense because Joe is working very closely. I

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Speaker 1: would hate to call on the bottom of the roster

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Speaker 1: but the majority of the rosters. And but he does

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Speaker 1: this building, there walking out of what they have known

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Speaker 1: since they were eight years old, and some of them

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Speaker 1: knowing realistically is for the last time. And I do

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Speaker 1: think it says something that he it takes the time

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Speaker 1: to make sure he's I'm sure he's not hogging him

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Speaker 1: and pat him on that, but he he takes the

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Speaker 1: time to make sure that they at least hear from him, um,

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Speaker 1: that he appreciates it, that he gets it. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: it's a very sudden thing because they go through that,

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Speaker 1: and all the players feel that, to the starting players,

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Speaker 1: even the guys who have been a lead and never

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Speaker 1: been through that, when they walk into that locker room

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, it is a jolting experience, if you will,

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Speaker 1: because they've had ninety guys in the locker room for

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Speaker 1: what since March, and all of a sudden, it's almost

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Speaker 1: I was saying half, but it's down to fifty three.

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Speaker 1: It's it's down by a third, and it is different,

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Speaker 1: and there might be a guy. Uh. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: thank Leonard for Nette locker I forget who's next to him,

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Speaker 1: but sitting right across from Leonard for Nett, who's clearly

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Speaker 1: gonna be on the team, is a guy who Leonard's

448
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Speaker 1: probably talked to every day for three months. A sudden

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Speaker 1: he's gone. So there is a little bit of realization,

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Speaker 1: even for for Net that this ends quick and let's

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Speaker 1: savor the moment, then you're gonna move on and get ready.

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Speaker 1: But there are a couple of hours on Monday where

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Speaker 1: it's it's a weird environment and cut down day with

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Speaker 1: Doug talking to him at the start of the playing time.

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Speaker 1: This Thursday, we'll hear from Jeff Flagman coming up next segment.

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Speaker 1: But John the quarterbacks here. You know, I first thought

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Speaker 1: it might be Tanner Lee's game, right the third quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to rest the backup, don't want to

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Speaker 1: get him hurt or whatever. But Doug Bron said the

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Speaker 1: other day, No, Cody's playing. He's gonna go out there

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Speaker 1: and play. And as you said this week and have written,

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Speaker 1: you gotta see how this thing goes. I guess because

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Speaker 1: if if the line is poorous for some reason and

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Speaker 1: he gets hurt, then then that's bad news. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: don't want Cody Kessler hurt um and I don't you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure anybody else does either. But you need some

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Speaker 1: time to Yeah, I don't expect Cody to play very long.

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Speaker 1: I think he'll play. Yeah, my guests is a couple

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Speaker 1: of series. But the backup line or backup reserves whatever,

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Speaker 1: Kessler has been sacked. I believe it's eight times. And

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Speaker 1: Tanner he's been sacked five times. That's thirteen times for

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Speaker 1: thank you as algebra majors um. So that's thirteen times

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Speaker 1: in three games. It's a lot. So let's be real

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Speaker 1: careful what kind of danger we put Cody Kesler in

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Speaker 1: and I don't think it'll be very long wide receivers

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see who does not suit up. You

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Speaker 1: would imagine that the names we've been talking about a

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Speaker 1: lot of camp would would not even come close to

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Speaker 1: the field, considering what happened to Marquis, especially the other day.

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Speaker 1: The numbers are that slim now, so you know that

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Speaker 1: that'll be what it is. Um, what's the battle like

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Speaker 1: for the fifth spots? Is? Uh? The Green Mickens, those

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Speaker 1: kind of guys get out there. You know that's a question.

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Speaker 1: I think Green will play, you know. I'm I guess

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Speaker 1: Mickens and Shane Win would be in a in a

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Speaker 1: three way deal for five and six somewhere in there.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm wondering about Mickens because I do think his

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Speaker 1: special teams. I've been saying since day one. I think

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Speaker 1: he I thought in March he was gonna be a

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Speaker 1: hard guy. For them to cut because they had seen

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Speaker 1: him do it. Tom Coughlin had sat in a booth

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Speaker 1: and watched him plays for him the way Tom feels

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Speaker 1: about production, I've been I've been saying since day one,

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Speaker 1: no matter what else is going on, I think its

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Speaker 1: would be hard for him to cut that guy. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, does Rashad make it? Uh? Does Shane Win

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Speaker 1: sneak in? We'll see. We'll slip it to the defense. Now.

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Speaker 1: You know, the front line guys on the defensive line

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Speaker 1: won't see the field. That's pretty much a given. Starting

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Speaker 1: linebackers probably say good night to them, let them have

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Speaker 1: some gatorade. The corners. I mean, so you're going deep

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Speaker 1: here and it's you know, the defensive line has guys

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Speaker 1: that can roll in, and there's some questions of how

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Speaker 1: many they might keep and who they might keep. And

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Speaker 1: we'll ask Logs about this when he comes on a

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Speaker 1: little bit later. Backup linebacker. That's been a big focus

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Speaker 1: in this camp as well. Asked Jeff about that they

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Speaker 1: had strong opens on the lineback. Yeah. Uh, they both

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Speaker 1: have to play Brown and uh, Pain and Pain Smoot

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Speaker 1: and Anko up front. You know, you wonder how much

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Speaker 1: of what they did last year. The trust who makes

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Speaker 1: it beyond those top eight guys who we know up

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Speaker 1: front are gonna make it. So there are some deep

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Speaker 1: track storylines that are going to be played out that

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Speaker 1: if if you want to know who those forty three

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Speaker 1: on the roster are, the guys we just talked about,

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Speaker 1: you know are going to be I'm curiously what happens

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Speaker 1: then on Saturday, and I do think what they do

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Speaker 1: on on Thursday will factor into that a great deal.

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Speaker 1: Um war turn. Jeff Lockman standing by. He will join

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Speaker 1: us here on set the Jaguars radio analysts former defensive

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Speaker 1: lineman First, just a good fella. He'll join us here

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Speaker 1: in just a moment and break down Thursday night's game

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Speaker 1: against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and a little later deep tracks.

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Speaker 1: John and I will pick guys to to dig down

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Speaker 1: the roster and watch on Thursday against Tampa Bay. This

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Speaker 1: think about this during the break, Jeff I was talking

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Speaker 1: about the emotion of that first day when guys aren't

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Speaker 1: here after there's cut down from three, and it was

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Speaker 1: always it was always one of the weirder days as

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Speaker 1: a reporter, which I've done. What times to walk in there,

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Speaker 1: you walk out to practice sins from fifty three. It's

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Speaker 1: a different world. You were never in a situation, not

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Speaker 1: being a first round pick, where you were going to

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Speaker 1: get cut. But is that day. I maintained it's weird

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Speaker 1: for you guys who weren't going to get cut to

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Speaker 1: It's a bizarre day where you realize how short this

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Speaker 1: league can meet that and and also how how amazing

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Speaker 1: uh and small the football team woulcome, you know, because

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Speaker 1: he's all of a sudden, you've got ninety guys, and

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Speaker 1: you know that was of course when I played, we

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Speaker 1: had the nineties fifty three, so you had the graduated cuts,

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Speaker 1: so you're spreading your stuff out. I mean, now all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's just like bam, where'd everybody go?

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Speaker 1: You know, but it's but it's a fifty three, but

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Speaker 1: it's also sixty three because you're gonna have practice squad

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Speaker 1: guys and all that. So, but it is a shock

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Speaker 1: because you're sitting there looking around, going, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: our medium room was that like fifteen sixteen guys, and

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Speaker 1: now all of a sudden it went down to eight

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Speaker 1: or nine if you're lucky, sometimes ten, but for most

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Speaker 1: part eight or nine, you know, in the defensive line

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Speaker 1: medium room. But but it's gonna be an interesting cut,

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Speaker 1: you know. I think that there's gonna be some good

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Speaker 1: football players that are gonna be playing for other football

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Speaker 1: teams after the weekend kind of kind of settles down,

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Speaker 1: you know, the dust settle, so to speak. Because the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars have a talented roster, and I think they're they're

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Speaker 1: talented on the offensive line. Will they go heavy there

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Speaker 1: because they are talented there? And they ask him young talent?

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Speaker 1: I think in the defensive front they're very talented. Could

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Speaker 1: they try to hide a guy maybe on ir or

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Speaker 1: do they end up letting a guy go that's gonna

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Speaker 1: get picked up? You know. So that's the other thing too.

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Speaker 1: You know that you do have the cut and guys

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00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: gonna get you know, opportunities to go elsewhere, but you

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Speaker 1: also have the ability, uh to stash guys on. I

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Speaker 1: R if they're hurt, you know, And when I say

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Speaker 1: if they're hurt, you know, wink wink, he's hurt. You know,

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Speaker 1: you have to set back, you know, because that has wend. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, some guys might have a setback, some guys

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Speaker 1: might not, you know. So, but I'm looking forward to watching.

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Speaker 1: One of the guys that I'm probably looking forward to

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Speaker 1: watching the most is Will Richardson Jr. Don't draft pick,

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Speaker 1: fourth round pick North Carolina State right tackle. Seem a

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Speaker 1: little bit of him what I've seen so far pretty good,

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Speaker 1: had quite figured out what he's supposed to do every time.

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Speaker 1: But I want to see him play. How how much

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Speaker 1: time has he had so far? Has he played limited?

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Speaker 1: Limited reps? You know, but you know, probably a couple

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Speaker 1: of series here and there, because first up for the

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Speaker 1: most part has been somebody else, and he's been the

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Speaker 1: third team right tackle so far. But now he's got

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to be the starter and maybe go almost

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Speaker 1: the whole game. How do you see it play? I mean,

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Speaker 1: and I get that we have to watch it on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: but I wonder, Jeff, if if you don't need to

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Speaker 1: keep it, I know he'll be on the roster. Fourth

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Speaker 1: round picks don't get cut. You have to have because

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Speaker 1: you all still want him for the future. Is he

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Speaker 1: ready now or do you need to keep a guy

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Speaker 1: who can play that spot now and therefore have to

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Speaker 1: keep offensive And you alluded to it earlier that he's

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Speaker 1: not ready to be because here's the thing. Parnell's a

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Speaker 1: starting right tackle. But if he had to go in

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Speaker 1: an emergency, do you want that yet? Is he ready

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Speaker 1: for that? I don't think the coaches or I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be confident enough that he would be ready to go in.

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Speaker 1: So you know, Josh Wells is still my swing guy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So because that's kind of the conversation that you have

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Speaker 1: to have. But they hit Pales all last year. I

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Speaker 1: don't see that happening. Yeah, I don't. I don't see

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Speaker 1: it because I don't think. I don't think Pales has

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Speaker 1: great feet. Uh, he's very limited at tackle. At guard,

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Speaker 1: he's kind of okay, he's still got limited feed even

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Speaker 1: that guard. And you have really talented players on the

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Speaker 1: inside backup wise, as far Shatley and Chris Read and

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Speaker 1: these guys can come in and be starters if you

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Speaker 1: need them to. At center and guard. I think Chris

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Speaker 1: Reads a better guard than you. Guys get snapped up

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Speaker 1: immediately if they're released in a in a millisecond there outside, guys,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't see those guys going anywhere. And

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Speaker 1: I think you're you're probably gonna go nine on the

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Speaker 1: offensive line and you've got your starting five and then

638
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: you're looking at Shatley, read Wells and Richardson. I think

639
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: that's probably gonna be your group defensive line. Now, what

640
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: did you see out of Taven Brian the other night

641
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: and what do you expect from him Thursday? Was? I

642
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: mean okay, I mean made one nice tackle coming down

643
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and then he batted a pass

644
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: where he's stuck on the line of scrimmage on a

645
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: double team and did what he's supposed to do, you know,

646
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: track the quarterback size and get a hand up and uh,

647
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: but I mean it was a start. What was it? Like? Wow?

648
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: You know where he's had some moments in camp that

649
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: have been wow. You know where all Sadden he you know,

650
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: jacks up an offensive lineman and literally with one hand

651
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: throws him aside like he's a rag doll, which I

652
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: can honestly say I was never able to do that

653
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: my day. Okay. I mean so he has special a

654
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: special skill set, which is he's strong, he's got good

655
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: get off. But I think we're only starting to see

656
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: just a little bit of what he's capable of. And

657
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: and I think he plays this week, and he should

658
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: play because he's only had exposure in one game so

659
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: far in the preseason and he needs the reps. And

660
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's against the guy that's not

661
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: gonna be in the league. He needs the reps. Sorry, John,

662
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: another guy on the defensive line, Dante Faller Jr. The

663
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: same way. He's gonna get reps next week. Let me

664
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: say this about Dante this past week against the foule Him,

665
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: I thought he was I thought he was amazing snaps.

666
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: I thought he was fantastic, quick, athletic, Greig get Off,

667
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: had a plan and pass rush which haven't seen in

668
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: the past. He impressed me thoroughly. And a lot of

669
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: people you always haven't said that about it, No, I haven't.

670
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: You know. I've been one of these guys that kind

671
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: of say, okay, you know, just a little caution when

672
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: it comes to Dante. I'm not excited yet. But what

673
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: I what I have seen out of him in that

674
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: one game, I'm excited about. And a lot of people

675
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: will say, well, you know, uh, he was on p

676
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: U P and then he had the altercation and practice

677
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 1: and then he got suspended. Look, the one thing about

678
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: about Dante is is that he's never been a bad guys.

679
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: Never been. I'm talking about in the locker room. Okay, now,

680
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 1: the incident that he had last year off the field,

681
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: that's a bad guy kind of stuff. Okay, Well, off

682
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: the field, I think he's learned from that. But in

683
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: the locker room for the most part and on the

684
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: football field, he's never been a back on how he's

685
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: made some bad decisions. But know he hasn't made bad decisions.

686
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: But it's been two years. Personal storyline is rookie year.

687
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: They kind of lingered a little unfairly last year. Yeah.

688
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: I thought he took a big step up last year

689
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: because he eliminated some of the bad decisions or the

690
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: dumb penalties that he had. He increased the level of

691
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: play that he had. And we know this. He is

692
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: an incredibly special athlete. I mean, they just the good

693
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: Lord just doesn't make people like Dante Fowler I mean

694
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't. You know a lot of people say, well,

695
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: you can get another good football player. You know, you

696
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: don't need to have Dante's problems. WHOA, they don't make

697
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: Dante Fowlers all the time. Alright, Special athlete, Jeff, You

698
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: and I haven't been on the air a whole lot

699
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: together during the preseason. I've heard you're taking the linebackers.

700
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: I went to hear it going in the backup situation

701
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: going into this last game. Where do you think it stands? Hey,

702
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: you think it all plays out. I don't think it

703
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: stands very well. I'll say that. I think you've got

704
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: one good backup. And Donald Payne, who two years ago

705
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 1: was playing safety at the collegiate level, made the switch

706
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: with Baltimore last year. The Jaguars were able to pick

707
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: him up. He's got speed, he can play special teams.

708
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: His natural position is probably will linebacker. I think the

709
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: Jaguars were hoping that Blair Brown would take a step

710
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: up who last year. He was a middle and late

711
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: draft pick and out of a smaller school. And he's

712
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: got great speed. But the awareness, uh, the level of

713
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: playing the production with with Blair Brown is not there.

714
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: How hard is that? To find if you go out

715
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: and get a waiver wire. Guy, here's the hard to

716
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: come in and do it? Why is that hard? Before

717
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: I get to that, let me just say this because

718
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: you know there's other linebackers on this roster too, okay,

719
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: and they're not they're not there, okay, So and I

720
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: won't go by name with them much. Just say, right now,

721
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: Donald Payne is your fourth fourth linebacker, okay, behind your starters.

722
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: And then after that then you're like, okay, this isn't

723
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: good enough. Okay, So now you're looking at how do

724
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: we how do we fix that? And how do you

725
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: fix that? Is you're gonna be looking at every other

726
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: team's cuts this weekend, and you're probably gonna be on

727
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: the phone, you know, with somebody that might need a

728
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: wide receiver if you've got a wide receiver that they like,

729
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: or you know, a defensive lineman that that you know

730
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: they like and you are willing to part with. So

731
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: I think that's the first step. The next step because

732
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: you're looking at the waiver wire. The hard part about

733
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: finding a linebacker for this defense is that that the

734
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: requirement is the linebacker that comes in here, he's got

735
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: a run and I'm not talking four seven fast, I'm

736
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: talking four fives. Okay, four six is or if he's

737
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: a four six, he's got to be an incredibly instinctive

738
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: player that can anticipate paid things, and that gives him

739
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: a step up. Because these linebackers are expected to cover

740
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: deep overs. We've seen puzz Lesnie chasing a wide receiver

741
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: down the field yards. We've seen Telvin Smith do at

742
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: It's a hard position to fill for this defense, and

743
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: it's a unique situation. Not all teams in the league

744
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 1: require linebackers to run four or four or four five,

745
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: you know, so they love them if they do. But

746
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: if if you can get a guy that can run,

747
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: and even if he's a little bit smaller, maybe not

748
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: a stout, then look, that's that's right up the Jaguars

749
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: outlet he's on some teams. It's a position where you

750
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: can go at the last minute, you gotta get a

751
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: hammer because they're just coming up. But that's that's that's

752
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: the hard part about filling that role with this football team.

753
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: And and there's not many four or four or four

754
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: or five linebackers that teams are willing to part with

755
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: when it comes down to get fifty three. There's not

756
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: many on the waiver wire out, that's right, because they're

757
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 1: they're all employed elsewhere. Um beyond that, Okay, special team

758
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: storylines here, Who are some guys that make this team

759
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: with their special teams? Well, I think Carson Tinker's a lock. Okay,

760
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: good idea. I brought him up because you know what,

761
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: we probably everybody we hadn't talked about him at all,

762
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, but let's not forget he's coming back from

763
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: an a c O. He has looked forward and concredible job.

764
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: I look, I've been through an a c L. That's

765
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: not an easy injury to return from. Kudos to Carson

766
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: Tinker for getting himself back and his snapping looks just

767
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: like it did before and that's perfect and so that's

768
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: a good thing there. Josh Lambo has been really, really

769
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: solid once again. Logan Cook love his leg now a

770
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: little concerned about the three steps that he takes sometimes

771
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: I think it can be a little bit long. He's

772
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: starting to clean some of that up last week and

773
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: back the poor punt that he had. He was working

774
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: on the one step Okay, trying to be a little

775
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: real quick, you know, when he has to do and

776
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: it didn't go so well to kick. But you know,

777
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: he's a young punter and he's, uh, he likes to

778
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: fish and hunt, so I'm kind of a fan of his,

779
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: you know, so, you know, because we kind of like

780
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: those guys. But the special teams wise, you spent a

781
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: lot of money and put a lot of attention in

782
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: the off season. Okay, you brought guys in here for

783
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: the first time ever. Okay, and I think uh and

784
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: and and Dave Caldwell's era, they made a motion to

785
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: do that two years ago or last year, but it

786
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: was the same as this, not like this. I mean,

787
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: Nyles Paul and Cody Davis are guys that would not

788
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: make a team as a positional player. Okay, They're not

789
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: your best tight end, they're not your best safety. They're

790
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: making this football team because they will be one of

791
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: the top five special teams players on this roster. And

792
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: that's why they're gonna be on this roster. And that's

793
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: why I think special teams will be improved because you

794
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: add guys like that to Laurente mccraige, who's already a

795
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: good football player, Donald Payne and uh, maybe Jared Wilson,

796
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: I know, because he's been pretty good and special teams

797
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: this preseason, and that's a position that's going to be

798
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: one that we've got to watch two now because all

799
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,479
Speaker 1: of a sudden, if they if Jared Wilson's on this roster,

800
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: that's five safeties, which which people are assuming that he

801
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: will be. I'm a huge f Four safeties is sort

802
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: of the number now. It really is because of look corners.

803
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: You gotta have guys who can run. And so there's

804
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: another guy we tart talking about, okay, trying to find

805
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: a linebacker. We talk about where are you maybe you

806
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: know a little deep at that you might have the

807
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: luxury of trading a guy. You know, could it be

808
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: a Jared Wilson, you know, could it be Rashad Green,

809
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: could it be uh Dawn Smooth. I mean those type

810
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: of guys or guys that you might you be end

811
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: up using to gain an extra line to make those

812
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: calls before the cut. I guess trade calls right right

813
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: before they you're gonna you're you're gonna try to work

814
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: something out like that on a Friday, And sometimes why

815
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: they get delayed a little bit an announcement too, is

816
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: there is there doing until right before the deadline. I

817
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: want to find question for Jeff and talking to the

818
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: coaches and talking to people around the team. Right before

819
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 1: free agency, there was really a thought that the hidden

820
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: area of improvement this year that people wouldn't talk about

821
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: was gonna be special teams that they didn't feel like

822
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: they were nearly good enough there last year and if

823
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: they felt like that would be an area where they

824
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: could make a huge stride from what you've seen, have

825
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: they done it? I think they have. And uh, as

826
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: long as Josh Lambeau you know, stays stays to for him,

827
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: I mean because last year he was really good in

828
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: terms of they felt like their coverage, they returns that

829
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: they could have gotten more out of those core four

830
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: air Yeah, I think that. I think the coverage teams

831
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: will be better. I mean, Nas Paul and Cody. Cody

832
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 1: is really good. Cody Davis safety. Okay, when you watch

833
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: punt team this week, and I'm assuming they're all gonna play,

834
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: they're not all, but these guys the Jaguars have Cody

835
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: Davis at one gunner and then they have DJ Chart Jr.

836
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: At the other, And I'm wanna tell you right now,

837
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: those two guys are really good. At it, really good

838
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: at it, and we haven't talked about it at all, okay,

839
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: and a lot of people probably haven't even noticed that

840
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: DJ Chart has been a gunner or that Cody Davis

841
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: has been a gunner. These guys are gonna be two

842
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: gunners to contend with. D J. Chark is gonna be

843
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: a game day active guy because of his ability to

844
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: play special teams and to contribute as a hunter, and

845
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: also has a kickoff coverage guy. And he's got great speed.

846
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: By the way, when you watch kickoff coverage, if Cody

847
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: Davis was playing, he usually has about seven or eight

848
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: yards on everybody else. I don't know how fast this

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Speaker 1: guy is, okay, but it doesn't matter on game day.

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Speaker 1: He's the fastest on kickoff coverage. Every team talks about

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Speaker 1: money where its mouth was this offseason. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: there's a big steak in your future tonight in Tampa.

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Speaker 1: You put it this way, I had the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: knowing that tonight I'm probably gonna get a little carried away.

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Speaker 1: do it. I'll be here at noon. I'll see it. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: n c U A. I've think there are some guys

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00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: that have made it on the final preseason game. You know,

892
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: there's been some guys I know that in my past anyway,

893
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: that we're that we're cut and UH came out with

894
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: an unbelievable amount of stamina played every play and uh,

895
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 1: you know, make some plays and we decided to make

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00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: a you know, a different decision. And then the thing

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00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: that you're playing for is a practice squad, you know.

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00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: I mean you want to make sure that, uh that

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Speaker 1: if you are released, there's a good possibility that you're

900
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Speaker 1: still on the practice squad. And I think we have

901
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: a number of guys that hopefully you're in that same boat.

902
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: There's Joe D. Cammillo's special teams coordinator. We caught up

903
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: earlier this week. You can hear the full interview on

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00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: the Public Tailgate Show tomorrow four thirty the start time

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Speaker 1: media and app. Well you're good, I'll stop listening to

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Speaker 1: kuris Low and yeah, turn off this Spotify and turn

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Speaker 1: on the Jags app. I'll do that for thirty tomorrow. Yeah,

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00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: you have my word. You know it's that I know

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00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: that's worth Yeah, a good bit. So we'll hear from

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00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: him tomorrow. It's we've had the conversation about the last

912
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: chance for guys to to get on this rosters this week,

913
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: and you know, it comes comes down to a lot

914
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: of times that special teams as logs talked about there.

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00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: We'll hear more from Joe d coming up tomorrow, coming

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Speaker 1: up at Daily's Place. Busy schedule, especially the week of

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Speaker 1: the Patriots game Deep Purple and Judas Priest September twelve,

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Speaker 1: Dirk Spentley the next night, Stinging Shaggy the night after that,

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Speaker 1: and then the Patriots game. That's Sunday tickets at Daily's

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Speaker 1: Place dot com. I used to love to year favorite.

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Speaker 1: Oh got another thing coming? Ye, yeah, breaking a lot

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Speaker 1: good that but h on MTV heavy rotation my senior year,

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Speaker 1: you got another thing coming d d D. I love it.

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Speaker 1: That's my little guitar track. Well, speaking of that, it's

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Speaker 1: time for our deep tracks today, and this is the

926
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: deep track up the day. We'll see if John Oderkin

927
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: name this deep track before we get gone nothing. This

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Speaker 1: is Shakedown Street by The Grateful Dead seventy eight. A

929
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Speaker 1: bad head, not really my not really my thing. I

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Speaker 1: could not get a details deepning You're Grateful Dead apparently not.

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Speaker 1: Don't mind those he can't, I mean, I respect the A.

932
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Speaker 1: What did Jerry Garcia so once say? Um, we're kind

933
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Speaker 1: of like licorice. Some people like liquorice, some people don't.

934
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: But if you like licorice, you really like liquorice. And

935
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Speaker 1: if you like the dead, you really like the dead.

936
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Speaker 1: You don't, you don't. And yeah, just not my thing,

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00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: but I always liked that they existed, always liked the concept.

938
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Speaker 1: Let's get to the deep tracks today. We'll start off

939
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: with some players to to deep down the roster to watch. Well.

940
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: I we'll go with mine first today and start off, Well,

941
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: he's never deep down the roster. Dante Fowler Jr. You're

942
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: gonna see him a lot on the field, it sounds

943
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: like since he's not playing Week one and he's had

944
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: limited time in camp and in the preseason and all

945
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: that Tim Cook running back, you know, you get the feeling,

946
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: but you know he's on the outside looking in right now.

947
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: If you just do the numbers on the roster as

948
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 1: we have the last few days, a big body running

949
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: back who just hasn't had a lot of time. He's

950
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: had other guys ahead of him in camp, So Tim

951
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: Cook will get a lot of looks. I think in

952
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 1: this game, Trey Herndon, we've talked about the cornerback, could

953
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: be on this roster. He'll get some time in the game.

954
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: What happened to Alan Lazard, undrafted rookie wide receiver. I

955
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: haven't seen a lot of him, you know, a guy

956
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: who was heralded coming in out of Iiowa State, but

957
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: it's just been quiet. Yeah, this is a team right now.

958
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: You saw what they did the other night there. They

959
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: want to test the edges. They want to go one

960
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: way and and and then go the other with speed. Uh.

961
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: I just don't think he fits what they want at

962
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: out of their wide receivers because at everything else that

963
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: he is fast in terms of NFL speed is not him.

964
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: And my final one, Michael Bennett. Is the Michael Bennett

965
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: experiment over? Or is it going to continue for the

966
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars who was banged up to last year or so?

967
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: He's healthy now, But do the numbers add up for

968
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: him to make the roster. Yeah, probably the same story

969
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: as as are. You know, hard to see that UH

970
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 1: number playing in Bennett's future, but I do think he'll

971
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: continue playing in the league somewhere. All right, John Osier,

972
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: your deep. There's a graphic here today we will see

973
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: if Brent Reeber can get it up. There is Osher's

974
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: deep tracks and I'm not surprised that we had a couple.

975
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: And I asked Jeff about a lot of these guys

976
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,479
Speaker 1: that I was in my mind Herndon's on the team,

977
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: but a chance to see him. Uh, you see what

978
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: they like about him. I think he's a five corner

979
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: and I think they like his future. They like his

980
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: ability to eventually become a guy who plays a lot

981
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: on game day. Maybe not this year, Fouler. For all

982
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: the reasons we've discussed, um notable that Jeff was as

983
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: impressed with him the other nighties was I think Dante

984
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: is going to give them the same kind of year

985
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: as he did last year. And I've been saying all

986
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: offseason I think he's important because when this defense is great,

987
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: it's swarming and you feel like they've got fifteen guys

988
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: out there, not eleven. Dante's ability and his suddenness is

989
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: a big reason. That's the case. You find all this

990
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: trade talk of him, I don't uh you know, if

991
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: somebody called and said, hey, we'll give you a first rounder.

992
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: So I mean there's a price for everybody, But to

993
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: think you're going to give him up just to get something, uh,

994
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because, as Jeff said, well, he's

995
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: a sudden player that you can't get that kind of

996
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: ability from and there's always sort of a rush to

997
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: get rid of guys and look to the future. Well,

998
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 1: fifteen games right now that at some point, if you're

999
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 1: gonna keep trading for commodity, get elite level talent out

1000
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: of what you've got right now. Um. I also had

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00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: the two linebackers that we discussed with Jeff. Uh Will

1002
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: Richardson is is definitely a topic I agree with Jeff.

1003
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: I don't think they want him necessarily playing right now

1004
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: if something happens to Parnell, but you've got to have

1005
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: him on your roster practicing all year to be ready

1006
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: for what they think is a bright future. Shane Win,

1007
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, Uh, he's an interesting guy because I don't

1008
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: think he's going to be on the roster. I think

1009
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: he deserves to be in this league. Um. I think

1010
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: he'll play a lot, and he's a guy who if

1011
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: you have injuries later on and he's out there, you

1012
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: feel fantastic about him knowing your offense and his ability

1013
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: to be a part of it. I think he gets

1014
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: caught up in a numbers game you have with the

1015
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: deep tracks allworthy this week. Um, we'll find out, of

1016
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 1: course tomorrow officially who will will and will not dress

1017
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,959
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. That will be closer to game time.

1018
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: As as you would suspect you, there won't be many.

1019
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: Strutter's baseball has some smiles. Yeah, and you know it's Uh,

1020
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 1: it's always a tricky game to cover because I get

1021
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: that fans see it and like, these aren't the guys

1022
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna be watching. Uh, And I feel the same

1023
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: way as somebody covering it. You know, you're writing it.

1024
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: You want the storylines, a you're gonna matter for wins

1025
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: and losses during the season. Uh, these guys are far

1026
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: down on the list. But it is a game where

1027
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: these guys are playing out in some cases the end

1028
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: of their careers, in some cases the end of their seasons.

1029
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: And there are guys who are making the team where

1030
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: storylines can play out that they do wind up making

1031
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: an impact. So if you're really into you know everything

1032
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 1: in the Jaguars roster and you follow this thing year round,

1033
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: there are storylines to play out Tomorrow night, John, have

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Speaker 1: a great trip, enjoy the press box food and Raymond

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Speaker 1: James Stadium to barn night. It's the best in the league.

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Speaker 1: It's good. Yeah, yeah, it's it's the best. Number one,

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati's pretty good. And don't don't underestimate the Bank. That's true.

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Speaker 1: You have it, John Oser. Thanks to Jeff Logoman, Jaguars

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Speaker 1: radio analysts, for joining us. Thanks for you to you

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Speaker 1: for watching as well, for everyone involved. Our entire crew,

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