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Speaker 1: And them and Tye, welcome back to the solid verbal boys. Girls.

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Speaker 1: My name is ty Hildebrand. That fine gentleman over there

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Speaker 1: is always the illustrious Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good, ty.

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Speaker 2: I made some dough balls this morning. I did a

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Speaker 1: We will get into that and then Dan we're going

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Speaker 1: to do a draft, are we not?

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Speaker 2: We are we're going to draft new coaches. Not as

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Speaker 2: it relates to how happy we are to see them

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Speaker 1: The new coach draft is how we will conclude this episode.

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Speaker 1: Shall we just dive right in talk about news? Let's

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Speaker 1: do that. We had breaking news. Boo boo boom. Okay,

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Speaker 1: did you see the Brian Farrence contract thing? I did?

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Speaker 1: Of course I did. It was great. Oh my freaking god.

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Speaker 2: So you have to score seventy points a game against

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Speaker 1: Trolling the hell out of them and falling on the ball. No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: If you're up comfortably late in games, it's look. The

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Speaker 1: And I've said this before.

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Speaker 2: I am positive Brian Farrence is not inept that he

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Speaker 2: is not incompetent. Now, Is he in this job partially

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Speaker 2: That's a reasonable conversation that reasonable people can sit over

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Speaker 1: That's sort of what happened, and Brian Farrens has tried

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Speaker 1: The game has changed a lot in the last what

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Speaker 2: Here's the other question. What's going to happen if Iowa

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame's had good offenses with different quarterbacks, a different

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know Tommy Reese personally.

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Speaker 2: And all right, we've got a quarterback battle at Alabama.

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Speaker 1: though a slim chance. It appears as if that has

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Speaker 1: fallen through, so they're not going to leave immediately. They're

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Speaker 1: also not going to leave early, right, They're not going

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Speaker 1: to leave in twenty twenty four either, at least not

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Speaker 1: a time of recording. Quote sources said the sides couldn't

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Speaker 1: agree on how to create equitable value. Here's a word

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Speaker 1: for what Fox would lose. Fox the network would lose

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four the equivalent of seven football games

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Speaker 1: featuring Oklahoma and Texas that command premium advertising. Again, another

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Speaker 1: business words, premium premium advertising. So looks as if the timetable.

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Speaker 1: We've been asking the question now for the last season

443
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Speaker 1: and a half, when are texts in Oklahoma going to

444
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Speaker 1: join the SEC? It looks like it looks like that's

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Speaker 1: not going to be until twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, always remember who's in charge of the sport, right,

447
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Speaker 2: I always remember it's whoever's writing the checks and everybody's decided. Yeah,

448
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Speaker 2: we're a TV sport first and foremost. And that's fine

449
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Speaker 2: because that's where we all are as fans with all

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Speaker 2: of the sports we like. But that's who's in charge trends,

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Speaker 2: that's who's in charge.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of TV sports. Any Iowa game now is suddenly

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Speaker 1: way more interesting. I know we took the Iowa sabbatical.

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Speaker 1: I'm on my sabbatical. Tie I can't come say. I'm

455
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Speaker 1: just saying, yeah, shall we go to our coach Draft.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. That angelic sound that we have that

457
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Speaker 1: we bring out of retirement every so often here on

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Speaker 1: the show is for today's very specific coach draft episode.

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Speaker 1: There are eleven new coaches on the Power five level

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Speaker 1: going into the twenty twenty three college football season. I

461
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Speaker 1: suppose there is still time for all hell to break loose,

462
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Speaker 1: and they're for there to be one or two other ones.

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Speaker 1: But for our intensive purposes here, there are eleven to

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Speaker 1: pick from. We're going to go through and we're going

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Speaker 1: to pick ten. Okay, we're gonna hopefully judge a year

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Speaker 1: from now. I'll set a calendar reminder to go back

467
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Speaker 1: and add up all the wins, all the regular season

468
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Speaker 1: wins each of our coach teams accumulate over the course

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Speaker 1: of the new season, and then maybe next year we

470
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Speaker 1: can have some sort of themed bet. I don't know,

471
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Speaker 1: maybe throughout the course of this episode or throughout the

472
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Speaker 1: course of the season, we can come up with the

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Speaker 1: actual stakes for these teams that we are about to draft.

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Speaker 1: But we're just going to draft five. We're not gonna

475
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Speaker 1: draft Zach Arnett. If you're cool with that, I'm fine

476
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Speaker 1: with that.

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Speaker 2: I think he'll be okay this season, just in terms

478
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Speaker 2: of where the roster seems to be. And I like

479
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Speaker 2: his hires some, but his very specific situation is unique enough.

480
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Speaker 2: We're like, man, this could go in a number of directions,

481
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Speaker 2: So I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 1: I just it's so unique and it's such a different

483
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Speaker 1: set of circumstances that I just don't want to go

484
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Speaker 1: there with this. But we do have ten other names,

485
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Speaker 1: those being Matt Ruhle, Luke Fickle, Dion Sanders coach Prime,

486
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Speaker 1: Hugh Freeze at Auburn, Jeff Brahm at Louisville, Brent Key

487
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Speaker 1: Georgia Tech, Kenny Dillingham Arizona State, Ryan Walters, produced, Scott

488
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Speaker 1: Saturfiel Cincinnati, and Troy Taylor at Stanford. We're gonna take

489
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Speaker 1: turns picking back and forth or snake? What do you think?

490
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Speaker 1: What are you feeling today? I'm back and forth. It's

491
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Speaker 1: fine with me. Back and forth. I will flip this

492
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Speaker 1: college football playoff coaster that was given to me for free.

493
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Speaker 1: You know how I feel about the free stuff we've

494
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Speaker 1: been given at these spots, right, call it this would

495
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Speaker 1: be heads, the corkside would be tails. I'll take corktails.

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Speaker 1: It is heads. Okay, so I get for a selection

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Speaker 1: if you're ready, Yeah, mel Tiper Junior, your name is

498
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Speaker 1: ty Typer. I want Luke Fickle, Luke fikel okay, explain

499
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Speaker 1: why he's the number one overall total wins dream boat. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's the he was a no brainer higher

501
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Speaker 1: the cycle. Yeah, he was a no brainer higher the cycle.

502
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Speaker 1: I don't know if we knew at the time that

503
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Speaker 1: Luke Fickle was going to be candidate for Wisconsin, because

504
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Speaker 1: for a long time we had heard it was like,

505
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Speaker 1: he's got this family of six, He's an Ohio state guy.

506
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Speaker 1: He would have been in play for Notre Dame if

507
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Speaker 1: they had looked in his direction. Is a big ten guy, right,

508
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Speaker 1: He is a big ten guy. And I appreciate the

509
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Speaker 1: fact that Wisconsin took the risk and picked up the

510
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Speaker 1: phone and gave him a call because it's a no

511
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Speaker 1: brainer hire. It seems like it makes a lot of

512
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Speaker 1: sense to me. Wisconsin's in a good spot. Wisconsin did

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Speaker 1: work in the transfer portal. Maybe we could talk in

514
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Speaker 1: more detail about that. But fifteenth, if you believe our

515
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Speaker 1: friends over at twenty four to seven Sports with respect

516
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Speaker 1: to the transfer portal rankings, fifty eighth nationally in their

517
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Speaker 1: class of twenty three. Recruiting. We could talk about that

518
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Speaker 1: as well. But the big thing on the Wisconsin's side

519
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Speaker 1: that I think we always got to look at is

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Speaker 1: who are they playing in the Big ten West? Who

521
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Speaker 1: are they playing? What is their schedule going to look

522
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Speaker 1: like this year? Here is their schedule? Dan, can I

523
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Speaker 1: rattle it off very quickly? Please do please? Year September

524
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Speaker 1: two against the Buffalo Bulls. Okay. Then on the road

525
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Speaker 1: at Wazoo. Wazoo's lost a lot, as you and I

526
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Speaker 1: discussed yesterday, unslack, a lot of coaching turnover there. I

527
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Speaker 1: don't know how I feel about that. Georgia's Southern Week three,

528
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Speaker 1: on the road at Perdue week four feels like it

529
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Speaker 1: could be a four and oh start. Then as we

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Speaker 1: get into the month of October, we've got Rutgers, We've

531
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Speaker 1: got Iowa, We've got Illinois, We've got Ohio State, We've

532
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Speaker 1: got Indiana, close things out, Northwestern Nebraska, Minnesota. That to

533
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Speaker 1: me feels even with some turnover, even with some new

534
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: systems to try and digest, that feels to me, even

535
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Speaker 1: with the talent on hand, like a ten win season.

536
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Speaker 1: I think I have them at a max of eight.

537
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Speaker 1: Really yeah, eight? With that? With what I just read eight,

538
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: who are the four teams that are losing.

539
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Speaker 2: To Ohio State, Iowa, some combination of Nebraska at Illinois.

540
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Speaker 2: Like what I just I think you are looking at

541
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Speaker 2: Wisconsin as somewhat of a finished product. This was a

542
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Speaker 2: Wisconsin team that lost some dumb games and dumb ways.

543
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Speaker 2: This is a Wisconsin team that is not stacked with

544
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Speaker 2: NFL level talent. This is a Wisconsin team that's going

545
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Speaker 2: to be running an offense that's a little bit foreign

546
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Speaker 2: to them and it might take some adjustments with a

547
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Speaker 2: new quarterback, a new coordinator. I just I think philosophically

548
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: they're looking at start four and oh, I just think, Look,

549
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Speaker 2: it's a step up for Tanner Mordecai really good at SMU.

550
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Speaker 2: How do we know he's how is he going to

551
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Speaker 2: translate to this level to Big ten defenses? I think

552
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Speaker 2: it's a fair question to ask with a new coordinator,

553
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Speaker 2: new level of defenses.

554
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Speaker 1: That's where I have it.

555
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Speaker 2: I have Wisconsin at a MAC like can Wisconsin lose

556
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Speaker 2: to Purdue? Sure, they absolutely can lose to Purdue. They're

557
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Speaker 2: going to Pullman Washington. Now Wash Wazoo loses like nine assistants.

558
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: Butzoo was pretty good last year and beat Wisconsin and

559
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: now they're playing in Pullman. So I'm just not there

560
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: with like a ten wins is on the table for

561
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: so much new and novel, Like they're gonna win at Minnesota.

562
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Speaker 1: I don't know, is gonna be good again? Is a

563
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: ten win team? I would set the over under at

564
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Speaker 1: nine and a half. I don't know about that, man.

565
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: I would set at nine and a half. Nine and

566
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Speaker 1: a half makes sense to me. I could see nine

567
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Speaker 1: or ten. But it feels like even with the talent

568
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Speaker 1: on hand, I mean, it's Tana Marchai throwing two that's

569
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Speaker 1: scaring you. I don't know if anybody's scaring me. But

570
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Speaker 1: I don't know if any of these teams are playing

571
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: or scaring me either. Okay, right, I just this is

572
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Speaker 1: a This is a nice schedule for a first year

573
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Speaker 1: coach's back, Kirk Shaka's back, first year coach in Madison.

574
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Speaker 1: I know Luke Fickle has been a coach for a

575
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Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, okay, that's my pick. I'm glad that

576
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Speaker 1: you don't. I'm glad that you don't respect It's no

577
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Speaker 1: I just don't respect that ten number ten wins. I'm

578
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: gonna jot this down here and I'm gonna set this

579
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Speaker 1: reminder in my calendar so that I can go back

580
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,239
Speaker 1: and look at all these terrible predictions we make.

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Speaker 2: Right, So this is my first pick, your first pick,

582
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Speaker 2: I think just because of the schedule, I'm going Brom.

583
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Speaker 1: Oh Man, you stole this one from under me.

584
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Speaker 2: Schedules great Now, they didn't hit the portal like Wisconsin did,

585
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: like Colorado did, like even Nebraska did or Auburn did.

586
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 1: But listen to this first game.

587
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Speaker 2: They've got Georgia Tech Brent Key first game, Jeff Brom

588
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: first game at Louisville, Murray State, Indiana, Boston College, NC State,

589
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: which should be fine. Notre Dame at Pitt very both

590
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: tough and improved duke team. Tough, but they have a

591
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: bye that week and it's in Louisville. A Virginia Tech

592
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: team that's still a ways away. Virginia a ways away

593
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: at Miami should be better, but we've seen some low

594
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: moments obviously, and a Kentucky team that is hopefully going

595
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: to be better with Liam Cohen but new quarterback and

596
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,239
Speaker 2: Devin Leary and just not automatic and Louisville is going

597
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: to be working in a number of new things. But

598
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Speaker 2: I just think there are so many games on that schedule.

599
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: I'm in on Jeff Brom. I'm in on Jeff Brom

600
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: long term, but just having some weapons on offense. And

601
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: we'll see a quarterback, but which is you know, I

602
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: gloss over maybe the most important part of that analysis.

603
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: We'll see a quarterback, But that to me is Jeff

604
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: Brom always seems to exceed my expectations. And given where

605
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: the ACC is right now in a chunk of that schedule,

606
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: and who they don't play in the ACC, you know,

607
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: no North Carolina, no Clemson, no Florida State. It's just

608
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: it's kind of smooth sailing.

609
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Speaker 1: Schedule is fantastic. You will have a max of like

610
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: seven or eight wins. I'm not going like tie ten

611
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: crazy schedules. Great. Would you have gone on Brom one?

612
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Speaker 1: If you have the first overall pick? Would you have take? I? Probably?

613
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: I probably would have gone fickled because I do like

614
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: Tanner Mordecai, and I do like Braylan Allen and the

615
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: pieces there, and I like his hires, Like I think

616
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: there's more to like about Wisconsin but because of the

617
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: schedule and those I mean, Virginia's defense got better at

618
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech. You know, they were inconsistent, but Virginia's offense

619
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: was terrible. And now the quarterback is I just I like,

620
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: I like the path I thought about.

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Speaker 1: I thought about taking brom first, Okay, and I almost did.

622
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Speaker 1: I figured he would be there for me at three.

623
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Speaker 1: But a good pick, thank you. I am going to

624
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Speaker 1: go Matt Rule. Okay. As as my next one up,

625
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: this is this is largely I think a function of

626
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: the schedule, which again, the reason these guys are there

627
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: in the first place is because the teams weren't good

628
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: last year. They weren't good last year. And I think

629
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Speaker 1: in most of the cases that we're going to describe,

630
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: a full rebuild is taking place. A full rebuild is

631
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Speaker 1: taking place. These are teams that have been pretty active

632
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: in the transfer portal. These are teams that are trying

633
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: to like reconstitute a squad in their image. So to

634
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: say that they're all going to achieve nine to ten,

635
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: even seven to eight wins is probably a stretch, and

636
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: Nebraska could certainly fall into that category. But I like

637
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: what Matt Rule's done so far. I like what he's done.

638
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: I look at the schedule. They've got Colorado early, They've

639
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: got a game against NIU Louisiana Tech. They've got the

640
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: Northwestern game on here. There's NIU baggage with Nebraska. Though

641
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: I know there's NIU baggage. I get it, I get it.

642
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: But I'm just looking at this and there aren't a

643
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Speaker 1: whole lot of defenses that scare me. Okay, I feel

644
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,239
Speaker 1: like Matt Rule is going to be able to get

645
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: the pieces organized enough. He will is that rules many things.

646
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: He's not an NFL coach anymore. Matt Rule is very

647
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: good at building a program. It's very good. He's proven

648
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: that he can do it at two previous stops in

649
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: college football, and he's done so by doing the little

650
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: things well, by building on the fundamental level, build from

651
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: the lines out. He'll get his teams playing discipline football.

652
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: He hopefully will not put Nebraska in the situation that

653
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: they've been under Scott Frost, where they're constantly killing themselves

654
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: with dumb mistakes. He's just good at coaching that type

655
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: of stuff out of his teams. So I look at

656
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 1: the schedule, and of course there's a game against Michigan,

657
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: and there are road stops here at Wisconsin and Minnesota

658
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: early that that maybe could be treacherous, But I just

659
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about about Bowl eligibility for Matt Rule,

660
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna I'm gonna go with him as my

661
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: next selection. Had a pretty good recruiting class. This is

662
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: like a top twenty four twenty five caliber recruiting classes.

663
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: Past cycle loves an emoji about Matt Rule. Loves an

664
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: emoji on Twitter. Yeah, Matt Rule being being more socially

665
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: media focused or forward than I expected in his since

666
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: like we last left our hero at a coaching job,

667
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: I don't remember him being this active in this kind

668
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: of front stage center. But he's trying to do what

669
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 1: he can to make Nebraska were relevant and I approve,

670
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: So I'm in.

671
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah that the coordinator hires are interesting. Marcus Saderfield from

672
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 2: South Carolina, Tony White. I love that hire, having that

673
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: big ten money to buy out a high level defensive

674
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: coordinator and Tony White, so they're going to run that

675
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 2: three three.

676
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: Five that's so in vogue now.

677
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have quarterback questions, whether it's Casey Thompson or

678
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: Jeff Simms. And the good news if you're a Nebraska

679
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: fan is looking at what Matt Rule did in year

680
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: one at Temple or Baylor. Those were completely different situations,

681
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: you know, Baylor trying to dig out of you know,

682
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: a creator of sanctions and transfers away and the Brills

683
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: situation and Temple changing conferences. I just I think they'll

684
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 2: be fine and competitive. They have Colorado.

685
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: It's on the road, right, you have Rule and Dion

686
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: in week two. I want to say, I always call

687
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: that those two teams play each other. Colorado is yeah,

688
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: it's in Boulder week two.

689
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, so old Big twelve, Big eight rivalry. So I'm

690
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: in on what the schedule mostly looks like for Nebraska.

691
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: My issue is and I think, I mean, I definitely

692
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: get caught up and I'm guilty of it's seeing like, oh,

693
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: you know, ASU brings in all these guys, Colorado brings

694
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: in all these guys, Oregon, you know all these schools. Now,

695
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 2: Nebraska is one of those teams, Wisconsin's one of those teams.

696
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: And you kind of get locked in on you know,

697
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 2: twenty transfers and from this program or for that program.

698
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 2: And I wonder if some of these new coaches are

699
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 2: just you know, the term jag.

700
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: That's a nickname.

701
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: Just a guy, right, nothing special, just a guy. I

702
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: wonder if these schools are jag hunting. I wonder if

703
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: these schools can sell themselves on while he was at Clemson, well,

704
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 2: this linebacker was at Georgia. If he was good enough

705
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: for Kirby Smart as a recruit, yeah, you know, maybe

706
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: he just couldn't crack the lineup because they're so deep

707
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 2: and they talk themselves into Now. I think it's good

708
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: for raising the floor. I think that's great.

709
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, But in terms of overhauling what that program is

710
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: on defense, because this guy from that huge program is

711
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: coming in, I think a lot of these coaches are

712
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: just trying to fill out rosters and Okay, this guy's

713
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 1: six five, two thirty five whatever, Yeah, that's great. Can't

714
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: teach tall. You can't teach tall.

715
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: Can't teach tall, you can't teach long arms. But sometimes

716
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 2: you're just jag hunting. And I don't know how much

717
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: that changes the culture and complexion and talent level of

718
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: a defense as much as it is changing the floor

719
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 2: of that defense. You're not fielding a MAC defense at

720
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: certain spots or in certain position groups. So I i'd

721
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 2: warn against getting too seduced by what we're bringing in

722
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: thirty guys, forty guys and they're from Georgia and Clemson

723
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: in Texas and Arizona State. Well, maybe those coaches at

724
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: those places were like, yeah, you're never gonna play here,

725
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: so go somewhere else. That's the issue to me of

726
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: getting too seduced. And that's that's a lot of me

727
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: talking to myself with laces like Nebraska.

728
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: Fourth overall. Pick who you're going with, Huf, I'm going

729
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: with Hughes, gotta do it going, Hugh Freeze, You got

730
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: it now, your boy. You love Hugh Freeze. Love Hugh Freeze.

731
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: That's me, love this, mister Hugh. Yeah, schedule is pretty good.

732
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: Open up with UMass at Cal and Samford and then

733
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: it gets tough. But you have Vandy on the road

734
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: as one of your road games, New Mexico State and

735
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 2: there you know late season break between at Arkansas and

736
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 2: Alabama and the Iron Bowl that there are just wins

737
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: on this schedule. Ole miss going through some changes, Mississippi

738
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 2: State obviously going through some changes. I think A and

739
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: M is going to be much improved. But because that's

740
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 2: just that non conference schedule, we're just talking year numbers, Umask, Callum, Samford,

741
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 2: and then New Mexico State. You're starting.

742
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: Probably we'll see what the deal is with call this year,

743
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 1: but probably you just start with four wins, so that's

744
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: you'll take. I'm the schedule right, of course.

745
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 2: Typically I like what they've done in the portal justin

746
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: because I think they've actually got like quality rotation guys

747
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 2: from other places.

748
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: When you see at the production level, they were fourth,

749
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: They were fourth in the two four seven Transfer Portal rankings.

750
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 1: They had thirteen commits. Their class also finished seventeenth nationally

751
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: their recruiting class, which I think is pretty good all

752
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: things considered. New coach coming in, you never know what

753
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: you're going to get in that first kind of half cycle.

754
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: And where Auburn was with Brian Harrison on the trail

755
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: as well. So I think both of those are pretty

756
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: big wins for Auburn. And as you said, the schedule,

757
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: the way that they start out is really conducive to

758
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: three four wins right out of the shoot.

759
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if I love the Philip Montgomery higher

760
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: because I don't love come down HighRes. Obviously, Tulsa parted

761
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: ways with Phil Montgomery, but he is from that wide

762
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: open Briles school.

763
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: But Tulsa was just a defensive school of these last

764
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: few years, it seemed like.

765
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: But I do like even if Baylor fans didn't love

766
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: the experience last year, understandably, so I do like the

767
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: Ron Roberts higher in terms of like a fix it

768
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: coordinator just to get and not that the guys that

769
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 2: they've had lately Derek Mason, Like, these guys are good coordinators,

770
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: but Ron Roberts hopefully is more of a steadying influence.

771
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: And with how they address defense in the portal and

772
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 2: on the recruiting trail, I just think they're going to

773
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: be a dangerously competent team this year, even if I

774
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 2: don't love Robbie Ashford as an eight nine win quarterback

775
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 2: in the SEC, which I don't. You get those four

776
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: wins and then you win a few close ones there

777
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: you are seven or eight. So I'm going Hugh Freeze there.

778
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: I don't know who else you would pick, because this

779
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: is the moment at which it gets a little bit hairy. Sure,

780
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Kenny Dillingham. Love the love that pick

781
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: for you, tie for that was a stay away from me.

782
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: There's a lot of steam on Kenny Dillingham right now.

783
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: There's a lot of steam on Arizona State. They were

784
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: incredibly active in the transfer portal. They had to be.

785
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: It was out of necessity. Tenth in the rankings, took

786
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: on twenty seven I believe twenty seven guys in the

787
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: transfer portal. Yeah, I think they jag hunted, which fine,

788
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: that's great. They may have jag hunted. But the big

789
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: one that they got was Jane Rashata, who, for the

790
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: purposes of these rankings that we're looking at, which is

791
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: transfer portal rankings, which is recruiting rankings among other data points,

792
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: I believe Jade Rashatta would go down as a transfer

793
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: because of the way that they scored this, so it

794
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: was a big deal to bring him over. He's presumably

795
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: going to be their starting quarterback, if not right away,

796
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: before long they will be playing him at quarterback. It

797
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: is a bit of a treacherous selection. I admit I

798
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: am not as high on Kenny Dillingham as this pick

799
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: might indicate, But as I'm searching for wins, this one

800
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: seemed like a good one to go out after. Whenever

801
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: you have to open up your season against the Southern

802
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: Utah Thunderbirds. You got to feel pretty good about that.

803
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: But beyond that, there are games on here against Cal

804
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: which I'm not sold in Cal at all, Colorado not

805
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: sold in Colorado, even though I'm pretty excited about Dion.

806
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm just sure that seems like a winnable game. Washington

807
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: State another one. We referenced it earlier. That seems like

808
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: that's winnable. Arizona. I don't know if I feel as

809
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: great about Arizona this coming season, but I think there

810
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: could be four wins here. I think there's a chance

811
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: at five wins here if they can get things organized quickly.

812
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: That is a time. If that is carrying the burden

813
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: for this argument, but sure we are getting down at

814
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: the nitty gritty here with some of these coaching options.

815
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm certainly not gonna take a guy like a Scott

816
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: Sadderfield over Kenny Dillingham. I don't know what I've got

817
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: with Troy Taylor. I like Troy Taylor as a coach

818
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: for Stanford, but I don't necessarily like the state of Stanford.

819
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,479
Speaker 1: The Georgia Tech schedule is brutal again, and I don't

820
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: really know what to expect from Ryan Walters, so I

821
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to take a flyer there.

822
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: And then there's the whole Don thing, which well, I'm

823
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: sure somebody's gonna take d On. Maybe you'll take him next.

824
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: But I'm just looking at this in terms of, Okay,

825
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: who was the lesser of all of these six remaining evils.

826
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: I hate to phrase it like that, but you know

827
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: what I mean. You know what I mean, and I

828
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 1: think I go Kenny Dillingham. I am gonna go Scott Satterfield. Really,

829
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: Scott Satterfiere, I'll play the sound please. I would have

830
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: picked Scott Sadderfield last, only if you forced me to

831
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: pick him. He would have been my last pick. Oh,

832
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: I would take Troy Taylor or Kenny Dillingham last. No,

833
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: I think Saderfield is dead last for me. They are

834
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: going into a new conference, so the schedule gets way harder. Great,

835
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: there's mass coaching turnover because obviously Luke Fickle left and

836
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: went to Wisconsin my first overall pick, and I don't

837
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: think much of Scott Saderfield. I think he left Louisville

838
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: because he didn't want to be fired and he was

839
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: able to catch on basically across town in Cincinnati, So

840
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: I just I think it was an uninspired higher I

841
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: don't think he did much of anything at Louisville over

842
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: the last couple of years except give Louisville fans a headache.

843
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: And I don't think much of the move. I don't.

844
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: I'm not optimistic. I don't think much of the move myself.

845
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: But where Arizona State was and where Cincinnati Sinced was

846
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: a playoff team two years ago, and where the Big

847
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: twelve currently is, which by the wait, they're not only

848
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: playing Big twelve teams this season. I just don't know.

849
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: If you have the schedule in front of you, Tie,

850
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: it's a tough schedule. Cincinnati is Eastern Kentucky. Shout out

851
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 2: to the Colonels, but Eastern Kentucky to begin at Pitt's

852
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 2: going to be tricky. But it's not a bulletproof pit team.

853
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: You got Miami of Ohio, so I always you know

854
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: how I love penciling and mac wins. An Oklahoma team

855
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: that will be better this year, but certainly was disastrous

856
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 2: at various moments last year.

857
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: Tom by Oklahoma. This year, Oklahoma's going to rev up

858
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 1: this year. They're going to get destroyed at home by Oklahoma. Continue, Okay, continue,

859
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: they return the quarterback Ben Bryant. Cincinnati does at BUYU

860
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: is going to be tricky at altitude. But here's the thing.

861
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: I think Nippert's a very difficult place to play. It's

862
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 2: an underrated home field advantage. I am just telling you tie.

863
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 2: And as I've told you before, Cincinnati was a power

864
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: five program playing in the American. They're a power five

865
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: program that succeeded on a huge level before the American

866
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: got squeezed out when the Big East collapsed and they

867
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: had to play in them. They've been a power five

868
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: program this entire time, basically, other than a little bit

869
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: of the Tubberville era. So I am in on Cincinnati

870
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: as a place that most, if not everybody can win

871
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 2: a number of games. And I don't feel that way

872
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: about Louisville and Scott Saderfield. I'm not a big Scott

873
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 2: Saderfield believer, but in this case, in this situation, I

874
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: think Cincinnati is a rising tide. I think what you

875
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: can do in terms of recruiting there, I think what

876
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 2: you can do in terms of the home field advantage,

877
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 2: and also who else do they have on the schedule.

878
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: They have UCF and Houston.

879
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 2: Right, so this is not this is not all last

880
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 2: year's Kansas State and TCUs. On this schedule, you have

881
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: a number of disappointing Big Twelve teams. Iowa State had

882
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 2: no offense last year. And what did Cincinnati do well?

883
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 2: They hired the fired coordinator of State.

884
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: They did do that, they died.

885
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: Grant you this, but I am still not in on

886
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve. I love the Big Twelve being deep

887
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: and entertained and any given week that it's all fifty

888
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 2: to fifty. I'm totally with you on that. But also

889
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: Baylor can lose any given week to a decent team.

890
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State very much starring Alan Moman this year, very

891
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 2: much can lose any given week as they again when

892
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 2: we talk about British comedy legend, I'm just telling you,

893
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 2: I am just telling you, in year one, Scott Saderfield

894
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: may be good enough to mislead all of us into

895
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: thinking he has found the magic juice once again, because

896
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 2: Cincinnati can be that place, that culture, that talent level

897
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: that gets Cincinnati to seven or eight wins this year. Man,

898
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, I'm I'm just making the case

899
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: for selecting him relatively lateness.

900
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: I'll have what you're having, man, I don't know. I

901
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: just don't see it. I would have picked them last.

902
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: I think the schedule gets tougher. I am not a believer.

903
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: We were huge believers, by the way, huge believers when

904
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: he took that Louisvilde job. We were over the moon

905
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: with that. We loved that higher. It didn't work out.

906
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: Doesn't always work out. These things are nine, they're not

907
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: slam dunks. Maybe this will be better. I don't know.

908
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm I think I've got such a sour

909
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: taste in my mouth from the last three seasons of

910
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: Scott Saderfield that Willisville that I'm just that's fine to it.

911
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 1: I'm glad you took him. I'm glad you took Kenny Dillingham.

912
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: Great and Drew Pine how fun? No, all right, next up,

913
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 1: give me Dion. Okay, give me Dion. Let's make it interesting,

914
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: right all right? Am I on the record for saying

915
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: that Dion could get to five wins? I believe I'm

916
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: on the record for that.

917
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: I have it listed as Deon Sanders max four to

918
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 2: five wins.

919
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I said. At some point we cut

920
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: a video together where I I said four or five

921
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: wins for Dion. Look, it's just really interesting. If nothing more,

922
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: it's interesting. And if I'm going to have to watch

923
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: and track these coaches week in and week out in

924
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: hopes of winning some imaginary stakes, which we should probably

925
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: figure out before the end of the show, or at

926
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: least ended this week, I want to be on Dion's side.

927
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to underestimate what Dion's done so far.

928
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: Fifth in the Transfer Portal rankings. No surprise there. Brought

929
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys with them, brought his own baggage

930
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: with him. As he said in his introductory statement to

931
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: the team, twenty five guys had a pretty good recruiting

932
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: class as well, obviously headlined by Cormani MacLean, the defensive

933
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: back number one overall defensive back that was previously committed

934
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: to Miami but now has coming to play alongside Travis Hunter,

935
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: and of course Dion Sanders, notable defensive back in his

936
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: own day. Sure, it's a tough schedule, man, it's tough

937
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: schedule that there is definitely a bit left of the

938
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: imagination here. If you're taking Deon Sanders, if you're looking

939
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: at Colorado, going into this year because they open with

940
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: runner up TCU the Horned Frogs on the road, no less,

941
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,479
Speaker 1: the remainder of the schedule. This is what this looks like. Okay,

942
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: Nebraska at home, Colorado State at home at Oregon, USC

943
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: at ASU home against Stanford, then at UCLA home against

944
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: Oregon State, Arizona at home, at Wazoo at Utah. Pretty

945
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: much all of those teams I would say eighty percent

946
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: of those teams are really freaking good. I don't want

947
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 1: to play Oregon or USC. I don't want to play

948
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: Oregon State. They got better. I don't want to play Utah.

949
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: I don't even want to play Arizona. I think Arizona

950
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: is getting better. So there's a handful of teams here

951
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: that you look at and say, all right, where are

952
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: the wins? But even Nebraska got better. TCU may be

953
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: losing a lot, but still should be pretty solid Week one,

954
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: going up against a rebuilt Colorado team. There's obviously a

955
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: boomer bust quality to this, and by boom I mean

956
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: five wins. By bust, I mean one and eleven. Like.

957
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: It's all kind of there for Deon Sanders, not the

958
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: least of which is we have not seen them coach

959
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: in this level. We don't. We don't know how the

960
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: talent's going to translate, We don't know how the coaching

961
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: style is going to translate to Boulder. But look, Dion,

962
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: Colorado nothing if not interesting in twenty three. And if

963
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: we're getting to the point now where we're what eight

964
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: picks into this thing? Mm hmm give me Deon baby,

965
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: I'm in Yeah.

966
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: They I mean definitely a jag hunting situation outside of

967
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 2: certainly Travis Hunter is not just a guy, so there

968
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: is star power there. I like the coordinator hires long term.

969
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 2: There's just so much new. But I think, yeah, the

970
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 2: floor is for sure higher on both sides of the

971
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: ball line of scrimmage, especially if any of the edge

972
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: rushers worked out. That was a priority in the portal.

973
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: I saw at Taylor Upshaw from Colorado. They've been a

974
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 2: linebacker in from Clemson. They're guys on this on this

975
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 2: excuse mesday Clemson, This Colorado squad that at least gives

976
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 2: you confidence that like they're just not going to lose

977
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 2: thirty five to three every week, that's right. Like if

978
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 2: they find themselves playing against a team starting a backup quarterback, well,

979
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 2: who knows, who knows, and a number of these teams

980
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: in the PAC twelve we're going to look pretty different

981
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: this year, so maybe there's going to be an adjustment

982
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: period for some of them. So I don't hate the

983
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 2: Dion pick. And that certainly has a high ceiling because

984
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: of the talent level at certain spots, and that the

985
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: PAC twelve is not a conference of out and out killers.

986
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 2: And so if Colorado is improved and Dion is legit

987
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 2: as he showed himself to be on a much smaller

988
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: level at Jackson State, that Colorado could be in that

989
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: position to just, you know, happen to win a bunch

990
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: of twenty nineteen games or something that would be That

991
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 2: would be the case to me. He was a bit

992
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: of a stay away just because I think the variance

993
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 2: is pretty high. Very but I think he's a I

994
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: think he's a good coach. I just don't know about

995
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: year one or year zero, however you want to classify this.

996
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: So the I don't mind the pick. The influx in

997
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: talent is what makes this interesting. I mean, Dion is

998
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: a notable personality and he will be fun as hell

999
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: to follow throughout the course of this year. I'm with you.

1000
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: I believe he's a good coach. I think he's proven

1001
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: he could be a good coach. And we've seen a lot.

1002
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of notable NFL caliber players go

1003
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: and coach and not be able to reel in the

1004
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: kind of talent that that he has. So just by

1005
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: virtue of the talent coming in, they have to be better.

1006
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: I think they'll be better. But how quickly can he

1007
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: get them organized? I don't think the schedule is easy,

1008
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: especially for a team that is going through such mass

1009
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: turnover the way that Colorado is. It's it's a lot

1010
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: to ask to get the five wins that's that would

1011
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: be a huge success in your one. Yeah.

1012
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,439
Speaker 2: I just if you're if you're any of these teams

1013
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 2: on their schedule, what is deterring you from running straight

1014
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 2: at Colorado?

1015
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: Nothing? Play right? That's the issue.

1016
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: It's just like, what is it about their front as

1017
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: it's currently constituted that makes you think any other game

1018
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: plan is sound?

1019
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: At the nothings? Nothing? All right? We got three left? Yeah,

1020
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: the three left? You're up, by the way, Brent Key,

1021
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: Ryan Walters, and Troy Taylor.

1022
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brent Key is the noe of these three to

1023
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 2: me because of a continuity factor, because as a team

1024
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 2: who did very little well last year, they still managed

1025
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: to win games with Brent Key against more talented, more

1026
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 2: together teams like Duke, like North Carolina. Well Duke was

1027
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 2: a first year situation as well, but like North Carolina,

1028
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: I believe they beat Pitt did they not last year?

1029
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 2: So there is something to me about what potentially the

1030
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 2: culture looks like under Brent Key, that these guys are overachieving.

1031
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 2: I think there's finally a little bit more stability because

1032
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 2: there was the last year, year and a half Jeff Collins.

1033
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: You know, he's just dead man walking, it seems so

1034
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 2: because of his connection to the school, because of his

1035
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: connection to the state. I don't love them at quarterback,

1036
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 2: to be perfectly honest, bringing in Haynes King, But I

1037
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: still think with where they are, with what they showed

1038
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 2: themselves to be, and the schedule, while tough, is not

1039
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: impossible to me.

1040
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: You could find Okay, you're gonna laugh at me, because

1041
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: you know this is my mo I do this all

1042
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: the time. You could squint, I'm doing it right now.

1043
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: You could find six wins on the schedule. Yeah, I

1044
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,479
Speaker 1: have a max of five to six you can find

1045
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: down here. You can find six wins. If they get

1046
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: six wins this year, that would be enormous at Georgia Tech.

1047
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: And you're right, they did play hard. They played absolutely

1048
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: hard for this guy. They got better after they got

1049
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: rid of Jeff Collins. Yeah, so if he's able to

1050
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: capture some of that pixie dust and bring it with

1051
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: him into this coming season, you can't tell me that

1052
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 1: they can't go to Wake Forest and win. Who knows

1053
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: what state Wake Forest is going to be in, right,

1054
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: you can't tell even Miami. I'm not betting money on that, right,

1055
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: but you gotta believe that's a game they're gonna have circled.

1056
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: Miami is still one of the or perceived to be

1057
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: one of the new powers of the ACC certainly one

1058
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: of the old powers of college football. They will be

1059
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: up for that game. Who knows what state the Canes

1060
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: are going to be in by the we don't know.

1061
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: It fell park quick this year. So there are games

1062
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: on here where they're Boston College. You can beat Boston College,

1063
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Syracuse you can beat Syracuse Virginia

1064
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: like their game. I'm just listing teams here, but I

1065
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: think you could find wins on the schedule.

1066
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Virginia's offense does not really wow me at the

1067
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 2: moment that game is on the road, but look, they

1068
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 2: have Clemson in Georgia to finish out the year. Two

1069
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 2: of the last three weeks. Syracuse's defensive line was extremely shredable.

1070
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 2: Last year they beat North Carolina, and I'm not a

1071
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 2: huge fan of where North Carolina.

1072
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: Is on defense at the moment.

1073
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 2: Boston College on offense, I'm not a fan of where

1074
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 2: they are at the moment. Bowling Green, while improved, they

1075
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 2: should beat Bowling Green Wake Forest without Sam Hartman. Ole

1076
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 2: Miss starting over probably on offense and should be good,

1077
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 2: and they should win that game against Georgia Tack. But

1078
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: at least I think you're right. It's a squint factor

1079
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 2: with Brent Key and Georgia Tack. That makes me a

1080
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 2: little bit happy that he has a head start on

1081
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 2: Troy Taylor and Ryan Walters. Now Troy Taylor has the

1082
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: head coaching experience, just not on this level, but Brent

1083
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: Key with this locker room, with this head start, being

1084
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 2: able to essentially pre diagnose what needs fixing and addressing,

1085
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 2: I think just gives him a leg up on the other.

1086
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: Guys, my turn. Yes, I'm going to go Ryan Walters

1087
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: at Purdue. Okay, I'll go Ryan Walters. I believe that

1088
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: he should be able to in short order put together

1089
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: a good defense in West Slafayette. Okay, And with this schedule,

1090
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: if you muddy it up enough, you could win games

1091
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: even with defense. I still want to believe that Perdue

1092
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: will field a good offense, but we'll wait and see.

1093
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: I feel that he can get five six wins off

1094
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: the schedule. You know, there aren't a whole lot of

1095
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: teams on here that that frighten me. There are as

1096
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: against notably Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Michigan that are all

1097
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: probably losses for Purdue, but beyond that you could find wins.

1098
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: Beyond that, you can say, all right, you can easily

1099
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: imagine a world in which they go to Blacksburg in

1100
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: week two and they hold Virginia Tech to fifteen points, right,

1101
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: they muddy it up enough against Iowa to win, or

1102
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: Illinois or Nebraska or Minnesota, certainly against Northwestern in Indiana.

1103
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: So it's there, you know. I like the hire. I

1104
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: think low Key could be a very very good higher

1105
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: But I think, as always the case for Purdue is

1106
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: that they're coming into a situation against some of these

1107
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: teams in the Big Ten where they just don't have

1108
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: the talent. They don't have the talent to match up consistently,

1109
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: consistently keyword against some of the competition. We've seen them

1110
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: knock teams off before. That's not outside their Roman possibilities.

1111
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: For Purdue to do it on a consistent basis, to

1112
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: expect more than five six wins, I think is a stretch. Yeah.

1113
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 2: I was eager to see who Ryan Walters was going

1114
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: to hire an offensive coordinator, and less eager about the

1115
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: direction of this offense now that Graham Harrell is there.

1116
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1117
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 2: I like where they're at on defense. In terms of

1118
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 2: the coaching staff, I think there's promise there, especially when

1119
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 2: you have Ryan Walters himself on this staff. So I

1120
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 2: think pretty will be fine.

1121
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,919
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't know. I'm I think Hudson card

1122
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: is pretty good. Yep.

1123
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: I think that's at least encouraging. But I'm just Graham

1124
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 2: Harrold just underperforms as an offensive coordinator every year, Like

1125
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 2: there's that expectation of like he's the next, you know,

1126
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: young up and coming air raid guy, and every year

1127
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 2: it's just West Virginia struggling. It's USC underperforming with Graham Harrell,

1128
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 2: and I just don't know why it's any different with

1129
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 2: a thinner offense than what he had at USC and

1130
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 2: at times had at West Virginia that again disappointed and

1131
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 2: was not able to game plan around a week offensive line.

1132
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: I just I'd be in on Perdue this year with

1133
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 2: Hudson Card and a Jeff Bram offense. I'm just not

1134
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 2: there with Ryan Walters, which is probably why he felt

1135
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 2: to this point. But if the defense is there and

1136
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 2: the offense is at least okay, yeah, they're gonna go bowling,

1137
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 2: and it's gonna look like a good value pick for you.

1138
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: I mean, an okay offense gets some seven wins. Yeah,

1139
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: they're going bowling. Sure, seven wins, eight wins, maybe, I am.

1140
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: I've been burned on the whole big name transfer quarterback

1141
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: thing before when we've played similar games where I look

1142
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: and I say, wow, Hudson Card, that it was the

1143
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: theory that you just described a few moments ago. This

1144
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: is a name, this is a guy who was recruited

1145
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: by Texas. He's gotta be good. Oh, he was a

1146
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: high blue chip level He's a big deal. Hudson Card

1147
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: going to Texa was a really big deal, and so

1148
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: this is a big deal on some level for Purdue

1149
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: to bring him up north. And I hope it works out,

1150
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: but I've seen all too often when it doesn't. And

1151
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: with the new coaching staff and with their being turnover

1152
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: on offense, I'm I don't know. I think I'm with you,

1153
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: maybe less so for Graham Harrell, but more so just

1154
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: from They're going to play some like decent enough defenses

1155
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: here and I'm not sure what state the offense is

1156
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: going to be in.

1157
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, they won eight games last year, they won

1158
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 2: the division, They won big games, they didn't lose anything.

1159
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 2: They had the Penn State game as relatively winnable late

1160
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 2: if I remember correctly, they lose that close one to Syracuse.

1161
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 2: So we're talking about a program that's not not that

1162
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 2: far away from winning like a crazy impressive number of

1163
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 2: games with.

1164
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: The old guy. With the old guy. That's the thing

1165
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: with the old guy. And I like Ryan Walters and

1166
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: I don't mind Hudson Card. I think it was a

1167
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: great move to bring in I was kind of a

1168
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: surprise when they announced that they signed him, So I

1169
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: get it, and I'm I'm just I'm Leary.

1170
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 2: Yes, Samson doesn't do it for me, because it's just

1171
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 2: I think it's just going to be a worse version

1172
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 2: of what Purdue was lacking last year. They were not

1173
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: an explosive offense. They were relatively efficient and the big

1174
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 2: knock on Graham Harreld's just like hitch hitch, hitch hitch.

1175
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: And so I'm not there.

1176
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 2: But no, I think that the ceiling is bold and

1177
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 2: that's a good pick where you got it. Last pig

1178
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:18,479
Speaker 2: is Troy Taylor.

1179
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: I guess if we're not doing Zach Arnett, which I

1180
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: would have, I would have Zach Arnett ahead of Troy Taylor.

1181
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: To be clear, Troy to how do you feel about Troy?

1182
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: How do you feel about Stanford as a whole? Not?

1183
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: I think we like Troy Taylor as a higher I

1184
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: think it makes sense. He's familiar with the area. He

1185
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: did a really good job at Sack State. Yeah, yeah,

1186
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean so there's a lot to like with with

1187
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: the hire there. But Stanford is a program I think

1188
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: is really the bigger question.

1189
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 2: So if you are making the case for Troy Taylor

1190
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 2: taking Stanford back to Bowl eligibility, it's they needed new blood.

1191
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 2: They needed a reset, They needed a reboot, they needed

1192
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 2: fresh ideas, They needed to be more aggressive. Stanford tried

1193
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 2: to do more on offense last year. I don't think

1194
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 2: we're built for it, but look this might I think

1195
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 2: this is a more talented team than some of the

1196
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 2: teams we've discussed above. Maybe not on defense, but I

1197
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 2: think there's guys on this offense. They've had guys at receiver.

1198
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 2: I just don't think the architecture of this offense was

1199
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 2: anywhere near where it should have been these past few years.

1200
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,919
Speaker 2: They I mentioned this, they were arguably the most inefficient

1201
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 2: offense in America relative to talent and intention. That they

1202
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 2: couldn't run the ball to any degree of success with

1203
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: any degree of success, and they had built a program

1204
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 2: over the past dozen years to run the ball powerfully

1205
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 2: and they failed incredibly so. So maybe it is the

1206
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 2: new blood, Maybe it is a new philosophy. Maybe it

1207
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 2: is the fact that it's a PAC twelve defense Leiden

1208
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,479
Speaker 2: schedule that you can say, you know what, this looks

1209
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,959
Speaker 2: like a team that just threw a bunch of cold

1210
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 2: water in their face and are ready to roll. They're

1211
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 2: not in a great place at quarterback, They're never going

1212
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 2: to be in a good place in the portal because

1213
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: of the academic restrictions and difficulties in getting players in

1214
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 2: in the portal when you need minimum GPAs and situations academically.

1215
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 2: So that's going to hold stand for back in the

1216
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 2: modern era in general. So the case for Stanford is

1217
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 2: Troy Taylor is a good coach and a breath of

1218
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 2: fresh air in a PAC twelve conference that does not

1219
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 2: go up and down with terribly tough defenses. Yeah, yeah,

1220
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 2: I have a maxing out of four or five wins. Yeah,

1221
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,439
Speaker 2: I agree, and you get the extra game with WWHY.

1222
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 2: They do play Hawaii maybe yeah, maybe three or four wins,

1223
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, and they play sax State as well.

1224
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 2: So I think it's been good have an inside track

1225
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 2: on that scouting report. Sure should we call out Zac

1226
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 2: Arnett quickly since we didn't include him as part of

1227
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 2: this draft, but Zach Art I have him as maxing

1228
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 2: out at seven wins.

1229
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Zach Arnett takes over at Mississippi State. We all

1230
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: know the circumstances there. It is clear that he has

1231
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: a much different vision for the offense. They hired as

1232
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: Kevin Barbay away from app State to come down and

1233
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: run the run the show for the Bulldogs. Notably, app

1234
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: State ran the ball like forty times a game last year,

1235
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: which far exceeds what Mississippi State did on the offensive

1236
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 1: side of the football last year. On the ground, obviously,

1237
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: it was much more oriented around the air raid and

1238
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 1: the system that Mike Leach installed and ran. So how

1239
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: whether or not they've got personnel to run that system,

1240
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: whether or not they're set up to do so, that's

1241
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: always what you like to look for in year one

1242
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 1: with a new system, especially if you're making such a

1243
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: transition like that. How will that take? I prefer more

1244
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: of a balanced approach on offense if it's me, so

1245
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: I think it's a step in the right direction. I

1246
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: think it was a keen hire. I like that move,

1247
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: But how quickly it takes hold is I think the

1248
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,959
Speaker 1: question that we need to ask. And obviously they're playing

1249
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: an SEC West schedule, so it's not like it's going

1250
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: to be smooth sailing for Mississippi State regardless of who

1251
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: took over that position. So I like that move. I

1252
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: don't know if you have any thoughts beyond that.

1253
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 2: The internal higher at defensive coordinator, you know, zach Arnett

1254
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 2: has that background, He's worked with him, so obviously there's

1255
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 2: trust there. It's just is it a higher because those

1256
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,919
Speaker 2: above zach Arnett said, we want continuity, so higher within

1257
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 2: on defense as opposed to who zach Arnett potentially really wanted.

1258
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: We'll see.

1259
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 2: Schedule's fine, and even though they're in the SEC West,

1260
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 2: it's still at Arkansas, which seems to have a ways

1261
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 2: to go on defense and loses their offensive coordinator. At Auburn,

1262
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:37,439
Speaker 2: which still starts Robbie Ashford at quarterback. Kentucky should be better,

1263
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 2: but they weren't great last year. You have Southern miss

1264
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 2: on there. You know, the egg Balls always going to

1265
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 2: be emotional and difficult. But it's at home this year,

1266
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, and so the Arizona defense doesn't

1267
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 2: do much for me. South Carolina I think will be good,

1268
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 2: but they seem to come on later on it seasons,

1269
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 2: so maybe I mean that's a tough place to play

1270
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 2: at Williams Brice. So yes, I still think there's enough there,

1271
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 2: especially on defense, to win six or seven games.

1272
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, returning production on defense is low.

1273
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: It is low form Mississippi States doesn't mean everything it's

1274
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: just a data point, but it's low. We'll see I

1275
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 1: don't know, we'll see one hundred and eighteenth nationally. If

1276
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: you believe such stats, we'll see. Here is the way

1277
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: that this thing shook out. Then if we're going to

1278
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Speaker 1: put our teams together, mine Matt Ruhle or excuse me,

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Speaker 1: Luke Fickle, then Matt rule. Then I took Kenny Dillingham.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, that was it? Okay, Dion Sanders and Ryan

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Speaker 1: Walters for me and for me for you, You've got

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Speaker 1: Jeff Brahm. I love that pick so much. You've got

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Speaker 1: your boy, Hugh Freeze. You've got Scott Sadderfield, Brent Key

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Speaker 1: and Troy Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fine with that right in now with my squad,

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Speaker 2: tell us whose squad you'd rather have?

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Speaker 1: Tell us whose squad you'd rather have? Team Tie, Team Dan,

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01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: let us know. Silverbogamil dot com is always the email address.

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Speaker 1: If you are not yet on the Discord server, we

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Speaker 1: would encourage you to do so going out to verballers

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Speaker 1: dot com. Just because there aren't games being played does

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01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 1: not mean there aren't people talking about college football, and

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Speaker 1: really all sorts of college football and just life adjacent topics.

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01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: Our Discord is a great place to be. It is

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01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: a solemn vow of mine, perhaps of yours, Dan, that

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Speaker 1: we want to spend more time in the Discord in

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Speaker 1: the offseason, now that we've had a chance to catch

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Speaker 1: our breath. Mm hmm. Spend some time out there, because

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Speaker 1: we've got fine folks that listen to the show, that

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01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 1: comment on the show, that talk about many of the

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Speaker 1: same things that we're interested in. So verballers dot com

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Speaker 1: is where you can go and check that out. Just

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Speaker 1: become a certified or premium for baller. That is how

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Speaker 1: you can get access to Discord server. Dan. I have

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Speaker 1: nothing to add, ty, really, I have some stretching of

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Speaker 1: my lower back.

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Speaker 2: Got to keep it nice and lose a glone roller.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the phone roller is behind me. If you're

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Speaker 2: watching this, it's it's enough of a decoration. You see

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Speaker 2: this orange ridged tube. It's right there on the set.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's great.

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Speaker 1: Make you no bones about it here.

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Speaker 2: You ever sit on a tennis ball tie, that'll loosen

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Speaker 2: you up a little, Yeah, yeah, I gots it going

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Speaker 2: a lot in the middle. Not in the middle, not

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Speaker 2: in the middle, no, no, no, side to side.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all. I got a little lower back thing

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Speaker 1: going on right now here. Chair too long? Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry to hear it.

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Speaker 2: Hy you have any athletic competition coming up here?

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Speaker 1: Just think just the Winter Olympics, that's it. Wait is

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Speaker 1: it a winter No, it's twenty three. Okay, you got

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Speaker 1: ways to go. Okay, it's never too early to start prepping.

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Speaker 1: So with day to day probable doubtful. How would you

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Speaker 1: list yourself if you had to compete at something probably

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Speaker 1: later today probable? Okay, yeah, you fight through. I would

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Speaker 1: fight through. I would fight through. I would end up

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Speaker 1: with back spasms, but I would make it through the competition.

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Speaker 1: You'd go into the injury tent for a spell, that's rights,

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Speaker 1: and they'd spray the magic spray that they used the

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Speaker 1: World Cup, and I'm okay, I'd make it through. But

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Speaker 1: then do you have a Super Bowl pick? By the way,

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Speaker 1: is the last public episode before the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I know nothing about either one of these teams, but

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Speaker 2: I like Andy Reid and I think it would be

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Speaker 2: cool if Andy Reid were to beat his old team

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Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl, And I guess it would be

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Speaker 2: cool vice versa. But I don't I'm trying to think

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Speaker 2: of there are any like very big organ connections, and

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Speaker 2: I don't think I can make them.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. Patrick Mahomes is very fun. Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go reads from La So I'll go Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Birds. I'll pick the Eagles. I have.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts has grown on me as an NFL player. Again,

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Speaker 1: We're not an NFL show, and I am definitely not

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Speaker 1: an Eagles fan, but Miles Sanders, Penn Stater, Jalen Hurds,

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01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 1: Miles Sanders, good stories and fun guys root for it.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, Like, maybe we can post on

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Speaker 1: Discord your your famed dip you're being it oh for Yeah,

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Speaker 1: usually that's for New Year's but yeah, I can do that.

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Speaker 1: We'll post that out there. Are you cooking anything for

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? You bring it in so, I don't think. So.

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Speaker 1: I found a good pizza place that's that's probably my

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Speaker 1: ow thing. But beyond that, now I think I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: make burgers.

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Speaker 2: I thin I'm gonna go to the butcher, get some

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Speaker 2: good like a beef blend, and here's the new thing

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do because I always like to push myself

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Speaker 2: a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And I'm going to make my own buns. Make your

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Speaker 1: own buns.

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Speaker 2: I'm making my own buns. Yeah, see how they come out,

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Speaker 2: Maybe just some tots on the side. I've got the

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make like the I have a steel that

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Speaker 2: I put on, a steel plate that I put onto

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Speaker 2: the grill, so I'll make smash burgers. Okay, And I

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Speaker 2: got my my special sauce. I'm I'm very excited. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: IM gonna make my own buns.

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Speaker 1: Allright, semmy cedar, send me, send me pictures. I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: I will absolutely send you pictures. Hi, you know I will.

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Speaker 1: I need to get a butter wheel. You ever see

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Speaker 1: one of those butter wheels that you you the wheel

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01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: is like, uh, there's no way you use enough butter

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Speaker 1: that you need a wheel.

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Speaker 2: I don't, but I'm they always tell you like, do

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Speaker 2: not buy single use kitchen appliances. It's a waste of space,

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Speaker 2: it's a waste of money, it's a waste of time.

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Speaker 2: I am all in on single use kitchen appliances. So

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Speaker 2: you melt a bunch of butter, you put it in

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Speaker 2: like a giant bowl, and then you get like a

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Speaker 2: river boat wheel that goes in the middle, and then

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Speaker 2: you roll the the haved bun over and back on

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Speaker 2: the river boat wheel, and the melted butter comes up.

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Speaker 1: That I have work. Where are you going to put

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Speaker 1: a butter wheel?

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Speaker 2: No, I have no clue, ty, but I love the

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Speaker 2: idea of single use kitchen items to make myself feel

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Speaker 2: like the Rob Nen the very specialized Trevor Hoffman.

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Speaker 1: The Billy Wagner. Yeah, yeah, all right, that's all everybody listening.

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Speaker 1: Stay safe out there, enjoy the super Bowl. Hope wherever

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Speaker 1: this episode finds you that you're warm and happy and

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Speaker 1: healthy and get ready for the weekend. For Ballers dot

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Speaker 1: there my good friend Dan Rubinstein from myself Tie Hilda Brand.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for downloading, listening, and supporting. We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you all soon. Stay solid, peace,