WEBVTT - How could Mike Elias approach the deadline? Who is next on the move? 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:13.480 A Birdland Welcome in Trade Deadline Eve edition of Birdland Territory. 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:15.720 As we're now less than twenty four hours away from 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:20.320 the deadline six pm Eastern Monday, so we're taping this 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:24.040 a little before seven o'clock on Sunday night. So if 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:26.279 something happens at eight or nine and you don't see 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:30.080 it on this video, you'll know why. Things happen fast. 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:33.440 There could be deals tonight as we take this. The 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.479 Oriols have made the one trade of Dean Kramer. A 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:39.840 lot more could be coming, so welcome in Steve, Tim 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:42.880 and Brad. It was an uplifting Friday night at the 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.360 ballpark to come from behind wind and then the Oriols 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.200 really late at egg shut out, back to back rain 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:51.280 today game called after the second rain to day five 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:54.440 and a half innings Phillies nothing so guys, the Oils 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:56.480 are fifty four and fifty eight at the deadline. We 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:58.600 can now say there are no more games, so the 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.560 trade deadline. They do not have the look of a 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.800 playoff team with this series falling flat the way they have. 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:10.000 Michael Ia said Friday, they could be buyers and sellers. 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.760 Let's see what happens now. What are your guys thoughts 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:14.959 coming out of the Phillies. 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.280 Yeah, I don't. I just don't know. At this point. 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.600 It's I can't see how they could be buyers. 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:22.880 It was after that game Friday, you thought they're gonna 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.199 take some of that momentum into the game Saturday and Sunday, 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:27.040 and like you said, see just kind of fell flat 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.760 and offense wasn't able to get anything going. Boz had 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:32.840 a great start, and then the bullpen unfortunately kind of 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.240 let the lead get away there on Saturday, and then 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:37.319 today was just a rough one from the Star with 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:39.480 the rain, and yeah, it just kind of messes up 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:41.720 all the plans there. So it's I mean, they were 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.920 on the doorstep two games under five hundred, and you're 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.800 feeling good, but the vibes were high, and then it's 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.560 just now your four games under five hundred, and I 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:52.840 just don't. I just can't see them being buyers at 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:55.640 this point after the And it's tough to say after 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.080 two games, but it just kind of seemed like it flipped. 0:01:58.160 --> 0:01:59.800 It flipped the other way. Friday you thought it might 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:02.160 be and now it's after two games like that. I 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:03.920 guess that's just the way the standings are. It's just 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:06.880 everything's so close, but it's a little a little tough 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:08.000 after those two losses. 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.079 That's sort of been the story of the season, right guys. 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.480 You have the crazy come from behind when what was 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.640 it Thursday in Detroit where you're down seven runs, s 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:22.200 gooogles on the mound, you win Friday. The Phillies are 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:25.320 really really struggling coming to Camden Yards. They lost nine 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:28.480 of twelve coming in after the All Star break, and. 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.320 To lose the series, it's tough. 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:37.040 And I think Michaellias, he was very honest and candid 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:41.640 during that meeting with the media on Friday, and I 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:45.799 just think in his projections and his numbers. You look 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:49.080 at Fangrafts and their playoff odds are around twenty percent 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:51.919 or so. I think you gotta be realistic and it's 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:54.720 gonna be tough to sort of thread that needle of 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.919 buying and selling. But I think these next twenty four 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:01.520 hours are gonna be really, really fascinating because there's just 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:05.360 been so much smoke in terms of possible players that 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:07.680 are up for sale for the Orioles. 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:12.680 So many factors lead you to think we could see 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.440 one or two big names go from this team, and 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:19.959 those factors include the Oriols four games under having won 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:23.040 one series since the end of the seven game winning 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.800 streak they've won and three in series since then with 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.359 a losing record, so they did not build on that streak. 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:34.239 Other factors include it seems like many more buyers than sellers, 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:38.120 teams that really need a catcher, which is where Adley's 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.760 name keeps coming up here and the tea leaves are 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:45.840 pointing that direction, and Mike Elias when he was asked 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:50.720 about Adlee specifically, Friday mentioned again how much they like him, 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:54.880 they hope he's here. But then he said the position 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:58.240 the team has put us in, we have to be 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:00.440 open minded to end anything. 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:02.760 That to me was the key phrase. 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:07.400 There's two words open minded, meaning he, even in his 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:11.320 precarious personal situation with his contract and his future with 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:16.560 the team, still has to think about adding right now. 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.000 Almost seems foolish to try to make an int If 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.239 you could get Trek Scoogle, that's different. 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:22.640 They're not going to do that. 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:24.080 They didn't get him, and they're not going to get 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:26.640 a player who's a difference maker. Mason Miller is not 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.000 walking through that door. So if you're going to get 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:33.200 an incremental upgrade. To me, it's like, let this team 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.480 stay as is and see if they can pull this out. 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:37.920 And I think we've been saying this for a while, 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:41.280 and Brad like, if this team is going to make 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.479 a push and make the playoffs, it's going to be 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:46.560 about the guys that they have. And Gunnar Henderson had 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:50.800 that vintage moment Friday, but unfortunately not able to carry 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:53.600 you know, can he sustain it? 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:53.800 Like? 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.320 Can he carry this team? Can this offense wake up? 0:04:56.360 --> 0:05:00.200 The starting pitching, the pitching in general. To me, just 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.200 not a player or two away. But then when you 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.279 get back to the Adley of it all, Brad, I 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:09.080 thought it was really telling. When Mike last met with 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:12.479 the media and not counting the bradish press conference June 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.799 twenty seventh, and he was asked about Adlie and he said, 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.000 I'm paraphrasing, but I wish Adley was here forever. I 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:23.560 wish you add more club control. To now him saying 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.279 he's open minded, I think that was pretty telling. 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:28.280 Yeah, I think so. 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.279 I think it just kind of knows that there is 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:35.239 a growing interest. If they were willing to trade ADLEI 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:37.240 that interest has kind of grown. I feel like you 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.320 wouldn't make that statement and change your kind of tune 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.719 or tone of how you're saying things unless there is 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:46.000 something on the table or something that is interesting to him. 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.520 And I think it's I think the Trek school. 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.160 I know he's on the Oriols, but I think that 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.520 trade is going to shake up what teams we're thinking 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:55.480 about doing. I think if you're on the fringe now, 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.880 you look at the Dodgers getting incremently better by getting 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:02.120 the best picture player on the market, they now get 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.000 better with him being on that team. Now, if you're 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.640 on the edge there, you're thinking, Okay, we can make 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.200 the playoffs, but how do we stack up against this, 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.840 I mean, powerhouse. There's no other way to look at it. 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:15.040 So I just feel like that that is going to 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:18.160 send shockwaves and I wouldn't be surprised some teams that 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:21.400 maybe were thinking about buying they end up just staying 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.280 staying put. And I don't know it's going to be 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:26.880 an interesting twenty four or forty eight hours here, because 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.000 like we've said that oriers have some pieces they can 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.440 move that teams have to be interested in. And on 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:34.000 the other side of teams not being buyers, anymore. 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:35.080 I think when you look. 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.440 At the Derek Scougole trade, you need teams that need 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.800 to get incremently better. The Brewers they have to be 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:45.360 looking at somebody like Rogers to get or the Taylor Award. 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.160 There's plenty of teams that need a right handed hitting outfielder. 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:50.560 They need to chase the Dodgers. So maybe the teams 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.800 that we're thinking about not making a deal now they 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.960 feel like they have to. So, but you're everybody's guests 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:57.240 is as good as mine at this point, because it 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.960 Mike really he gave some but at the same time, 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:02.680 I feel like he made it just as foggy as 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:03.520 it was before. 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:05.520 He had the press conference. 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.840 Before Elias is doug out press conference. I was there 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.160 for that. I had a chance to interview Pete Alonzo 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:13.640 as just me and him one on one, and I 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.040 asked him, does the front office need to make a 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.120 move to show support for the clubhouse? 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.720 And he said no, He said they are. 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.960 Support has been unwavering for us all year, and he 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:28.000 cited the extensions of Boz and Bradish as moves they've 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:32.280 made to support the team and its future. So maybe 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.280 that was a politically correct answer. To my guy, they 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.600 gave one hundred fifty five million two, But that was 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:38.760 what he said. He also said to me it's not 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:42.280 been a big topic in the clubhouse the deadline, and 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.720 he said, keep in mind, ninety nine percent of things 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:48.120 that are discussed never happened. Now, maybe it's not that 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.200 high a percentage, but it is a high percentage. And 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.880 every deadline guy's we talk about Adlie or Ward or 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:57.560 Rogers or all these names we talked about, and then 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.680 there's two or three we never talked about, yeah, that 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.640 are involved in a deal. And finally, my last point 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.360 deadline day last year, this is who the Orioles traded. 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:15.160 Ramona Reus, Ryan O'Hearn, Ramon Loreano, Andrew Kittridge, Charlie Morton, 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.800 Cedric Mullins. They did all that on the final day 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:22.080 and they traded cash for dietrich Ens. 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:24.960 It was busy, thirty. 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:27.480 Five trades on the final day last year, and I 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.800 think some people think we're headed for something similar. 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:32.200 Yeah, that's what it looks like to me, and it's 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.280 it's I'll definitely agree with what Pete said in the clubhouse. 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:37.480 Guys are probably looking at stuff on their own, but 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.000 it's not an open discussion. You don't ever really want 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.280 to go there when you're in the clubhouse. So I 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:44.480 can definitely see where he's coming from with that, because 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:46.240 you got to move with the guys you got. You're 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:48.000 not gonna you're not expecting to get some you know, 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.960 hero walking through the door that's gonna win you fifteen 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.920 extra games here within the last two months ago. So 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:55.600 I think it's definitely one of those things where they're 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.200 looking at themselves more than anything else, and if it's 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.480 gonna get turned around, they are the guys that are 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:02.280 going to do it. So it's it's a it's an 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:05.680 interesting dynamic because it's it's talked about everywhere, but in 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:09.000 the clubhouse it's kind of like a taboo to kind 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:10.960 of talk about it openly with guys. You might have 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:12.520 a you know, a good friend on the team that 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:14.560 you're kind of talking about it with, but outside of that, 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:16.400 there's really no talks. It's just going out there every 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:18.959 day and doing your business. And I know at times 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.080 it can be a little maybe annoyed to hear that 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.000 from the fan perspective because it's like, these guys have 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:24.719 to be talking about it. 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:26.680 But at the end of the day. There's really nothing 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:27.440 they can do about it. 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:28.640 You just got to go out there and try to 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:30.880 win every game and prepare yourself and be ready to 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:31.439 go that night. 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.520 Yeah, if you're if you're the player, you got to 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.600 control what you can control. You don't have, you know, 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.520 any unless you're a ten to five guy where you 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:41.840 can decline a trade that you don't have the power 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.920 to decide where you're going or if you're traded or 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:48.320 any of this. You know, Trevor Rodgers is the perfect example, 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.760 and he's the guy to me that's most up in 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:53.280 the air, and he's been very open about it. But 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:55.280 he's just got to go out there every fifth day 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.560 and put his best foot forward and see where the 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:02.760 chips lay. But I'd have to think it still will 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:06.600 be a weight off this clubhouse, this team when the 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.800 deadline does pass and they don't have a game tomorrow. 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.560 So next time we see him in action Tuesday against 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.640 the Angels. You know, there's finality to all of this. 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:20.319 The fact that the Oriols are not definitive buyers or sellers, 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:24.160 as Elia said Friday, I think in a way maybe 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.920 that's changed the dynamic. I don't know, I've been covered 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:28.840 the Oils many years and I've been in there around 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:29.880 this time of year. 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:31.600 When you could feel the tension. 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:35.160 Yeah, like wow, I can just feel, you know, And 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:38.679 I don't feel that with this team. And maybe it's 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.000 the uncertainty of it all. Who knows what's going to happen. 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:43.400 So many guys say they want to be here, and 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:45.520 obviously it's out of their hands. And as Brad said, 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:49.800 you know you're discussing something you have zero control over, 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:51.880 so it's really you're discussing. 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:53.120 It won't change a thing. 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:58.520 Let's talk more about Adlei Ritchman and the potential for 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:01.840 the Oriols there at least less thing. That's what people 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:05.439 closer than us are saying. And will that lead to action. 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:06.800 We'll discuss that in a moment. 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.760 There is one place to be on Trade deadline day 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:13.839 watching Foul Territory, of course. Aj Perdinski, Aeric Kratz, and 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:17.720 Scott Brawn will be live all afternoon speaking with insiders, 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:21.840 reading tea leaves and reacting to unfolding deadline drama. Join 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.280 us on the FT YouTube channel at one pm ET 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:28.040 and stay locked in through the six pm deadline Next Monday, 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:32.800 Foul Territory Network. It's baseball the way it should be covered. 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.440 So check out the home office Foul Territory of their 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:39.960 national show. They'll have a lot of coverage coming your 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:43.320 way on Monday. We are very likely to have another 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:47.480 episode of this show Monday night, sometime after the deadline, 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:50.640 So don't go too far away from a Bergland Territory either. 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:54.160 And if some bombshells drop between now and then, there 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.240 may be some some special coverage. 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:57.520 We'll sort it out. 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.679 We're playing it by ear because no one knows when, where, 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.560 how and who. We're all waiting to find out. The 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.040 one trade they made, of course, was Friday Night Dan 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.880 Kramer to the Twins. They got eighteen year old outfielder 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:14.080 Jimnardo Reyes from Minnesota the Oriols. I think they're going 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:15.920 to send him to del Marva, but he hasn't played 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:19.760 as of Sunday yet for the Orioles organization. And we'll 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.040 tell you more about him in a minute. But let's 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:27.360 get back to Adleie Rutchman and the trade rumors here. Obviously, guys, 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.839 they have two top caliber catchers, so if they trade one, 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.360 you still have one that might be part of this thinking. 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:32.880 They locked. 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.360 You know, it was August last year when they locked 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:40.800 up Besio. But then again, if something happens with the 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:44.079 SiO an injury of Slump, now you're down to zero. 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:45.600 All star caliber catchers. 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:49.959 So a lot to consider here, and it just may 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:53.120 come down to if someone bowls them over, they just 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:53.839 might have. 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:54.400 To do it. 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:56.640 Yeah, And I think that's I mean, we've kind of 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:58.640 discussed that here the last couple of weeks, but I 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:01.320 just think of the last week and I think in 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.760 my mind it's become more clear that if there is 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.480 an offer out there that you have to do, you 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:07.880 got to take it, and you gotta do it, and 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.280 you got to try to maybe change some things up 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.120 and kind of work towards twenty twenty seven with the 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.560 group of guys that you have have some good momentum. 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.480 If you make the playoffs, great, but you have some 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:21.040 good momentum moving into the next season. To me, it 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.200 just it makes sense at this point. And I'm more 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.920 curious when they when they got Jake Rogers. I just 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:30.440 hope that there's no injury concern with Sammy or Ali 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.280 that there's they haven't said anything, because it just kind 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.600 of I know they needed to get somebody that was 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.080 more established at the big league level to help out 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.400 the catching side, but to go and trade for somebody 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.000 like that right before it was a little interesting to me. 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:46.240 I know, I'm completely speculating right now, but I hope 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.400 there's not more there that they might think there might 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:51.680 be with either of those guys, because he's a pretty 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:53.319 established player. He's been in the big leagues now, I 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:55.640 think four or five seasons, and I think you just 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:57.440 kind of ran out of playing time in Detroit. But 0:13:57.760 --> 0:13:59.800 I thought that was an interesting move too, because you're 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.200 kind of solidifying a little bit on the catching side 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.400 of things. And I don't know when Samuel or Adley's 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.560 gonna come back, because they really haven't said too much 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:07.040 about it. 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.520 Well, you know, he did touch on it Friday. 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.360 Oh okay, yeah he did, and he actually was asked 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:17.439 that question, is this acquisition and indication there are things worse? 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.640 And he said no, he said, we just saw him 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:23.440 as an upgrade. Did tell the media that Basiah was 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:27.920 expected to start to do some throwing and some hitting 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.520 and Adleie could be in rehab games this week and 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.720 both were not in bad shape or at least you know, 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:37.280 their return is an imminet, but it's not a bigger deal. 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.120 So that was good news that came out of Friday. 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.800 Hopefully we see one or both pretty soon. Adleie, if 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:48.440 he's still around, could be in rehab games coming up. 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.720 Tim that would be a bombshell even to me, even 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:55.040 with these rumors of lists, they're listening, they're talking all 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:58.200 these teams need to catch her, so many ALACE teams 0:14:58.280 --> 0:14:59.000 need to catch her. 0:14:59.200 --> 0:14:59.440 Man. 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:02.960 You trade Adli Rutchman within the division, that would be 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:04.480 very interesting. 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:09.960 It would be tough and gosh, I don't know anything. 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:14.040 This is just me reading everything that's out there. I 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:17.000 think one of these guys is gonna get dealt one 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:20.320 of the bigger names, whether it's Adley, whether it's Jackson 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:23.120 Holliday who his name's being brought up, which that would 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:24.080 totally stun me. 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:28.480 For Colden Cowser. It seems like one of these. 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:32.720 Guys from the young core it is going to get 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.280 dealt and Adley right now, there's a lot of smoke 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:37.520 there and Steve, I just think it would be a 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:40.520 bit of a gut punch for the fan base and 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:44.280 every because this guy was the face of the rebuild, 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:47.600 you know, he was Michael Isias's first draft pick. You know, 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:50.440 when he got brought up, that's when the Orioles started 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.000 winning again. You know, in May twenty twenty two, they 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:55.720 were under five hundred at that point. They ended up 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.680 finishing the season above five hundred and twenty twenty two, 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:02.000 winning one hundred games. They went as Adley Rutchman win. 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:06.840 But I still think if I'm taking what Jeff Passen 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:11.640 was reporting is one hundred percent true. You know in 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.280 his recent Top one hundred saying that there was virtually 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.960 no chance that the Orioles and Adley Rutchman are going 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:20.880 to agree to a contract extension. You got to trade him, 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:24.520 you know, whether it's now or prior to opening day 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.680 next year. Obviously you would get more value from him 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.880 now because you would get two potential playoff runs for 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.120 the team that's acquiring him. 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:35.040 Yeah, a lot to consider. 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.640 A scout told me over the weekend that these teams, 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:43.120 oftentimes it's math. They put grades on these players, future grades. 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:47.640 They project these players out two, three, five, sometimes seven 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.480 and eight years what their war might be in twenty 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:53.800 thirty two, and they try to look at these matchups 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:55.960 and match it up and see should we do this 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:56.360 or not. 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:58.080 Now. Obviously that's not exact. 0:16:58.240 --> 0:16:59.800 When you're trying to predict what a player will do 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:02.640 four four years from now, you just don't know. But 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:06.080 they try to do it, and that's how they add 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:09.160 some of this up. And so maybe here's my thought. 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:14.320 If the Orioles think Adlee Rutchman improved this year, is 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.760 still not all the way to the guy we saw 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:19.800 two or three years ago, and remember he had two 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:23.840 bad years coming into twenty twenty six, maybe they feel 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.320 like they're trading him on a high, third time, third 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:30.679 time All Star. And again that's if this happens. So 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.240 I don't think it's going on. I would still stun 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:37.880 me to see that come across Twitter or the wire here. 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:40.160 That's just my feeling. 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.760 But maybe Tim they're looking at recent years thinking it's 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:48.439 not Maybe he's not exactly what they thought. 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:52.040 Well between that ste even it's unfortunate and look, and 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:55.760 not all of this is Adley's fault, but five il 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:59.280 stints since the beginning of last year, and yes, one 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:01.000 of them being and he got hit in the head 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:04.240 running the first base. That's not that's just bad luck. 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:08.240 But I think the injury factors have to come into play. 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.680 And also, guys, I don't have the numbers in front 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.080 of me. I know I gave him in a prior 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.920 show the amount of off days. I think he's only 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:21.000 caught three consecutive days twice, two separate occasions this season. 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:24.320 And look, it's worked. And they came into the season 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.280 with a plan to kind of baby him a bit 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:30.080 and keep him healthy throughout the season or try to, 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:33.040 and he still had three il stints and I think 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:34.879 that has to factor into the calculus. 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:37.080 Brad, Yeah, I think so for sure. 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.440 I think it's just kind of like Steve said, they 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:41.359 have a bunch of models that they can run. And 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:43.880 I think if it just comes down to the fact 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:45.479 that where you think you can win a trade by 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.920 trading him, it's just it's just kind of the math 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:49.640 of it all, and that's kind of where baseball's at. 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:53.399 And unfortunately for you know, Baltimore, it's not unfortunate, but 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:55.199 it's just they're not one of the top markets, and 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:57.639 sometimes you lose these guys and you just can't afford 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:00.880 to lose a player of his caliber for kind of 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:03.320 sense on the dollar when it's when it's all said 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:05.320 and done, When sometimes when you got to move on. 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:05.960 It's a tough. 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:07.840 Decision to make, but if it makes sense for the 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:11.040 organization moving forward, you just got to pull the trigger sometimes. 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:14.160 And it's it's upsetting, it's it's frustrating, it's it can 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:16.439 be all the stuff mixed in. But at the end 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.359 of the day, when you're trying to have longevity and 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.440 having a long time winner, you just got to unfortunately 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.040