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Gen Mueller 13 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: alongside John Boyle and I have a I don't know 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: if sobering is the realization that I came up with John. 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 2: But I was so proud of myself, Yeah, for doing 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: Christmas shopping early this year, Like I'm talking about, I 17 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: bought presents back in September. 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: Is that even Christmas shop? 19 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: I know it was. It was I had the best, 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: Like I was so dialed in to this. You want 21 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: to know where those Christmas presents are still sitting in 22 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: my guest room, not wrapped. And I realized I did 23 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: it so early that I have forgotten. They still need 24 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: to be sent out. 25 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 4: Oh see, I thought you were gonna forget who they 26 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 4: were for No, I have that list written down. 27 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: I knew. 28 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: You lost them. 29 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: Nope, nope. They're taking up space in the guest room 30 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: closet and the guest room bed, and so now I 31 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: have to get those in the mail so that they 32 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: make them on time. 33 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: Excellent. 34 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: Are you in the same boat or no? I mean 35 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 2: I might have time or might not. I might keep 36 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: forgetting who knows. 37 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're still working on it. We're getting there. 38 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: Okay, so you haven't forgotten anything. You are still working 39 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: up to. 40 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 4: I've got an Amazon cart full of things. I just 41 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 4: need to hit the button on That takes a. 42 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: Lot more discipline than I have because if it goes 43 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: in the cart, I'm also just gonna hit by Well, 44 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: you know, two different approaches. I say this and you're going, 45 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: how does this relate to football? 46 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: This is a great open. 47 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: How many people do you think forgot about Zach Sharbonay 48 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: until they saw him run? How many people forgot how 49 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: good this team could be? Come on, John, that thing 50 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: so hard to reach. No, it's not. It's a perfect 51 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: segue in the holiday season. 52 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: You do. I'm just not sure that was your best one. 53 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: Okay, we're not starting off in a great foot today. 54 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: I do think you forget Zach Sharbonay could take over 55 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: a game. I think you might have forgotten what Kenny 56 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: McIntosh could do in the running game, because we really 57 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: haven't seen him that significant or be able to contribute 58 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 2: in a meaningful way since the preseason. I know nobody's 59 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: forgetting about JSN, but you might be forgetting about DK 60 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: and Tyler given how many opportunities JSN has had. And 61 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 2: I just think the Seahawks are positioned well and Arizona 62 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: showed us a lot. 63 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 64 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 4: No, I totally agree, And I think you so often 65 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: we hear the coaches we've got two backs we really like. 66 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 4: You know, they talk about both like starters. But unless 67 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 4: you are running the ball incredibly well and running it 68 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 4: forty times a game, you're just not going to get 69 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 4: your backup a ton of touches. 70 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: So we haven't seen it he did. 71 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 4: You know, Sharbonay did start a couple games earlier in 72 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 4: the year, but for him to break out like that 73 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 4: and have that big a game, break off a long run, 74 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 4: get some tough physical yards, I mean it really did 75 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 4: show how good a hands this running game is in 76 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 4: that if a guy goes down, they've got and even 77 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 4: as you said, Kenny McIntosh, you know, limited touches, but 78 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: I think he averaged over five yards of carry. He 79 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 4: looked really good. So you got to like what they're 80 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 4: seeing in the backfield. 81 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: I wonder how much of that was truly a few 82 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: scheme changes up front, because when you talk to Abe 83 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: Lucas and a couple of those offensive linemen, yes, I 84 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: know they changed the scheme and they did a little 85 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: bit more gap instead of zone. How much of that 86 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: was because it was Zach Sharbonay versus that was always 87 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: in the game plan, regardless of who your top back was. 88 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I don't want to say it's like, oh, 89 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 4: Zach Scharboney made the difference and ken Walker couldn't have 90 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 4: done that, because I think that's not fair to ken Walker. 91 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 4: I just think this is a case of, you know, 92 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 4: both backs are really good and they it up better 93 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 4: than they had and ken Walker would had a big 94 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 4: game as well. So you know, they've they've struggled to 95 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: be consistent up front all year, and now that I 96 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: think we're just starting to see and this goes to 97 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 4: the pass protection too in those sacks when you have 98 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 4: the same five guys out there for a while, and 99 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 4: obviously Abe Lucas being back helps a lot, but you're 100 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: starting to get a. 101 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: Little bit of that continuity. 102 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: And you know, the toe all Aumeya is really added 103 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 4: a nice element to that group as well. But some 104 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 4: of it's you know, they've got three new guys from 105 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 4: where they were what it was at five six weeks ago. 106 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 4: Three the five starters are different, and I think they're 107 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 4: just kind of coming together as a unit really well. 108 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: Well, and you mentioned Stoolamea and not only did he 109 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: have back to back starts, he got all the first 110 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 2: team reps last week. It wasn't a competition between him 111 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: and Anthony Bradford. That makes a difference too, as well 112 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 2: as just having real live reps in a game. And 113 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 2: Mike McDonald saw a difference in him from his first 114 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: start to a second. 115 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 5: I think I think just confidence and like consistent just 116 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 5: like consistent performance and execution. So you know, as a rookie, 117 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 5: the first time you see things are the first time 118 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 5: you see things, so being able to be exposed to 119 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 5: all the things you need to be able to react 120 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 5: to and the calls and the footwork and all that 121 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 5: type of stuff, and then just keep hammering away on 122 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 5: the improvements. Again, it wasn't just like it's not with 123 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 5: these guys, it's never going to be this okay now 124 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 5: I'm ready. It's just this constant effort, everybody on everybody 125 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 5: on board, huff, you know, the coaches, all the rookies 126 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 5: going through all the reps, taking them, you know, keep 127 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 5: moving forward. There's many bumps in the road, but every 128 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 5: time this guy took a rep, he just you know, 129 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 5: is getting he was maximizing his opportunity. 130 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 4: That's all you can ask for, you know, as Mike 131 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 4: McDonald just said that, like, the first game is always 132 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 4: going to be a little tough, and and you know 133 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 4: you talked to me after that first game and he's like, yeah, 134 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 4: it was a little nervous at first. Took took him 135 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 4: a little bit to get settled down. So you get 136 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 4: past those nerves and then you also, as you said, 137 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: get that full week of reps. I just think that 138 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 4: you know, week over weak growth is going to be 139 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 4: really big for him, you know, early on in his 140 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 4: first time starting, and it's you know, again, get if 141 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 4: you can keep all five of those guys together, you know, 142 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 4: and keep them healthy, that that could go a long 143 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 4: way to this line playing a lot better than a stretch. 144 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 2: And whatever their difference and whatever the reason, it all 145 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: led to a season high in rushing yards for the team, 146 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: career highs for Zach Sharbonay and it sets up a 147 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: true strength on strength matchup against the Green Bay Packers. 148 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: I mean truly across the board on this one. And 149 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter who's running the ball. You know that 150 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: Seattle wants to establish the run, and you know that 151 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: on the other side of this matchup, Green Bay has 152 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: one of the best running backs in the league. In fact, 153 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 2: you would probably hear more about Josh Jacobs if it 154 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: wasn't for a couple of other backs who were doing 155 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: some pretty impressive things in Saquon and Derrick Henry. But 156 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: third most rushing yards in the league. And he's a 157 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: tough one to bring down. Man. 158 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 5: It's just a physical runner. He breaks a ton of tackles. 159 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 5: I think is yards after contact numbers are pre dag high. 160 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 5: It's kind of a relentless runner, you know, and then 161 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 5: yards after contact are tough. But they do a great 162 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 5: job of block and form as well, and he just 163 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 5: has a really good feel for like what the blocking 164 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 5: scheme is, kind of where the soft spot is in 165 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 5: the defense, and then he's going to hit it with 166 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 5: a full head of steam. So he's a really good back. 167 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 168 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 4: I mean, they've been playing a physical running game all 169 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 4: year long. Seahawks fans probably unfortunately do not need any 170 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 4: reminders about Josh Shacobs. When he was here with the Raiders, 171 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 4: and I believe was twenty twenty two, he had a 172 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 4: pretty good game, including a walkoff long touchdown run. So yeah, 173 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: tough back to deal with. Seahawks have been playing run 174 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 4: defense really well since really before the buy against the Rams. 175 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: But this will be a big test when you. 176 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: Talk about Josh Shacobs and the number of yards after contact, 177 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: more than half of his total yards. Remember he's got 178 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: the third most yards in the league. More than half 179 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: have come after contacts, so you're gonna have to get 180 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: a lot of guys to him to bring him down. 181 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: In addition, when it comes to broken tackles, I believe 182 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: he has the second most in the league, So you 183 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: were going to have to get everybody to the ball. 184 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: And really, Seattle has been able to do that. It's 185 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: interesting because I was reading some of the opponent viewpoints 186 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: of this game and saying, look, Seattle struggled to get 187 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: it's the run, and they pointed to last week where 188 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: you give up one hundred and twenty one and James 189 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: Connor has some yards. But John, I'm looking at that 190 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: and I'm thinking about how that game felt on the sideline. 191 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: That's another one of those Hey, you can torture the 192 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: numbers all you want, That's not what it felt like 193 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: during the game. 194 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: It did not feel like they were getting gashed or 195 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: run on a huge wee. He did. You know, obviously 196 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't. 197 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 4: You weren't going to hold the eight yards every time 198 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: you play him like you did in week twelve. But yeah, 199 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 4: I mean they that did not ever feel like a 200 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 4: huge issue. He did, you know, he broke off some 201 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 4: nice runds. He's a really good running back. They've run 202 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 4: the ball well all year. But you know, I still 203 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 4: look at that game and I feel like they're playing 204 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 4: good run defense and just kind of the bigger body 205 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 4: of work. It's also easy for people who haven't been 206 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 4: pay attention to look at the season long rushing numbers 207 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 4: and say, oh, well, here's where the Seahawks average, because 208 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 4: you're factoring a lot of games that was almost an 209 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: entirely different defense from where they are now exactly. 210 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: And if you look at this four game winning streak, 211 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: the Seahawks defense has allowed just fifteen and a half 212 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: points per game, that is tops in the league. Another 213 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: example of strength on strength against the Packers. During the 214 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: same period, they are averaging almost thirty points a game, 215 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: that is fifth best in the league. Do you like 216 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: this matchup overall? I mean, I love what's on the line, 217 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: But do you like the overall matchup? 218 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 4: I mean I like it as like a football fan 219 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 4: who thinks it's going to be a very compelling game. 220 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 4: If you're a Seahawks fan who's just your main goal 221 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 4: is for the sex to win, it's you don't love 222 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 4: it because they're a really tough team, Like this isn't 223 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: one of those where you look at all the matchups 224 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 4: and like, oh, the sea Ks are going to dominate 225 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 4: this game. I think they got a great chance to 226 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 4: win it, and they're going to be competitive, But it's 227 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 4: I mean, the way these teams match up, I think 228 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 4: it's going to be how I mean, like you said earlier. 229 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 4: Both teams have been running the ball well lately. Both 230 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 4: teams defend their run well. Both teams have been getting 231 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 4: a lot of takeaways this season. You know Seahawks more 232 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 4: so lately, but there's a lot. Both these teams are 233 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 4: doing a lot well lately. 234 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: Well, and I want to talk about that in just 235 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: a second, but if you stick with a Packers offense 236 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: and what Seattle has to do, it has to be 237 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: stopping the run because you don't have a true not 238 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: just because of Josh Jacobs, but for as good as 239 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: Jordan Love has been, you don't have a true number 240 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: one receiver out there, and so those receiving yards have 241 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: been down quite a bit. In fact, Jordan loves not 242 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: attempting the same number of passes that he was earlier 243 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 2: in the year. 244 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, ideally, if you have a good 245 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 4: running game, he doesn't need to. But yeah, for sure. 246 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 4: I mean every game, every coaching player is going to 247 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: tell you it starts with stopping the run. But it 248 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 4: really feels that way this week to the point you 249 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 4: just made, and as this defense has shown in this stretch, 250 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 4: when you can stop the run and get teams into 251 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: these more obvious passing situations. That's where Mike McDonald can 252 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 4: you know, as Devin Weatherspoon would say he can cook. 253 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: No, he said, get in his bag. I'm sorry, not cook. 254 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: Get in his bag. Yeah, and then that way they 255 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: could cook. 256 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: I I personally, I would love. 257 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: To wait the person who has a cooking show. 258 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: I know, I have a cooking show on what's called Yeah, 259 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: I Cook, You measured. Leonard Williams is out. We've got 260 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 2: episodes with Derek hall Boye, Mafey JSN and Julian Long. 261 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: Now that's a j That is the segue. 262 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: Way to set me up for that one. You know 263 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 2: who can actually cook quite a bit is Jordan Love, 264 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 2: at least on the field. I have no idea if 265 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: he can cook off the field, you. 266 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: Should invite him on your show. 267 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: We can tell I'm gonna it's an open invitation, Jordan, 268 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: if you'd like to come and cook with me and 269 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: I cook you measure. Look, even though they're not trying 270 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: to get the ball down the field, when you look 271 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: at the overall numbers, and keep in mind Jordan Love 272 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: has missed a couple of games this season with injuries, 273 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: the seventh in the league with twenty one touchdown passes 274 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: thrown and he leads a top ten offense. And while 275 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: we focus on Josh Jacobs, Jordan loves quite the playmaker too. 276 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 5: Deep Aarryer accuracy is really impressive. It's arm talent's really good. 277 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 5: It's got a really really good control of their system, 278 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 5: operates their offense really well, plays decisive think how extends 279 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 5: plays and still gets the ball down the field even 280 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 5: when pressured is pretty dang good as well. So it's 281 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 5: first time really being exposed to him on like multiple 282 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 5: games and stuff. 283 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: So's he's a really good. 284 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 4: Player, and he seems to be getting clean, getting healthier 285 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 4: and playing cleaner than earlier season. The one, you know, 286 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 4: as well as he was playing, the one sort of 287 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 4: knock on him was he's thrown a lot of interceptions. 288 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 4: For a lot of the first half the season, he 289 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 4: was either at or the top of the league interceptions. 290 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 4: Now he's gone three straight games without throwing one. And 291 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 4: you know, I was talking to one of their writers 292 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 4: that covers them, and he said, it's mostly just he's healthy. 293 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 4: He's been banged out for a lot of season. He's 294 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 4: finally getting healthy. So tough, tough challenge all around this 295 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 4: offense well, he's got. 296 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 2: A clean pocket though too. I mean, look at the 297 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 2: total number of sacks allowed by that offensive line. It's 298 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: sixteen sacks. Are you kidding me? Yeah, that's the second 299 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: fust in the league. And I was asking a few 300 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: of the Seahawks defensive players this week, is that because 301 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: he can scramble and like avoid trouble or is it 302 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 2: truly just that clean? And they said, no, you know 303 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: he's going to step up in the pocket. He's not 304 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,599 Speaker 2: going to be Kyler Murray that tries to escape. But 305 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: they really are doing a good job protecting. I would 306 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 2: say the other side of this, and I was talking 307 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: to Ad, the defensive coordinator last week, about the way 308 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 2: those guys are rushing, particularly on the interior, and why 309 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 2: that looks so different, and he said, nobody has the 310 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 2: same intent that these guys are playing with right now. 311 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: Look across the league and yeah, there's good defensive lines, 312 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,599 Speaker 2: but these guys have taken it up a notch, to 313 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: which Jonathan Hankins says, Yeah, that's exactly what Ad preaches 314 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: all the time. You got to finish plays, and you 315 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: have got to finish those blocks this week and make 316 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 2: sure that there's no escape routes for Jordan Love, Josh Jacobs, 317 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: any of those guys. 318 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I love the way Siaks have been rushing 319 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 4: up front, So I think it's good. Good again another 320 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: case of kind of strength on strength. They've protected all Shawks, 321 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 4: have gotten outter the passer really well. And how about 322 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 4: Jonathan Hankins first. 323 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: Sack last week? How bad that for a sack of 324 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: the season for the big guy cleaning up. Yeah, and 325 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: he is. 326 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 2: Playing his former team this week in the Packers, and 327 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 2: he just has a smile on his face all the time. 328 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: I just love it. 329 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: He's having fun out there. 330 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 4: He has had a love just kind of the grizzled 331 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 4: old vet who's just out there enjoying himself. 332 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: Each and the young guys the game. 333 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 2: I do think that that is an underrated part of 334 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: the game, right Like you talk about, yeah, you got 335 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: to have a deep rotation to keep these guys healthy, 336 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: or you talk about the emergence of JSN, Well, somebody 337 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: has to get less touches, less yards, less reps less, 338 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: all of that when all these other guys start stepping up, 339 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: and it is you have to be unselfish. This is 340 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: a special group right now. Maybe special is too Strong award. 341 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 2: This is a group who totally understands that and buys in. 342 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: That's how I would say that. 343 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's and you can throw the edgereshers into that 344 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 4: with the d line getting Channa back you and talk 345 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 4: more about that layer. But like what that's going to 346 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 4: do for them down the stretches. He you know, he 347 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 4: kind of eased in played twenty snaps last week, but 348 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 4: as he builds up and you have that group gets deeper. 349 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 4: It's I mean, in terms of just overall talent and 350 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 4: depth more than anything. I love that group up for 351 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 4: That's really good. 352 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: Okay, you said down the stretch and I'm going to 353 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: pose a question to you in just a minute. But 354 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: I know that Luminfield is going to be rocking on Sunday, 355 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: which is why my noise canceling headphones are going to 356 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: be of the utmost importance because I literally can't hear 357 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: myself think this NFL season, feel every play, every hit, 358 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: every moment. With the Sony one thousand XM five noise 359 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: canceling headphones, the official headphones of the Seattle Seahawks. With 360 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: premium noise cancelation, you were in the zone, no distractions, 361 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: just pure football. Whether you're in your living room or 362 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: on the go, you'll never miss a beat with Sony headphones. 363 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: And while I'm thinking about it, I think we need 364 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: to get a little bit of insight from our fantasy insider, 365 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: Scott Engel. 366 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: Thanks Jenn and John. 367 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 6: Here we are in the fantasy playoffs. Don't let the 368 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 6: pressure get to you. Don't overthink things. Go with the 369 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 6: starters that brought you here. You've gotten this far. Don't 370 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 6: obsess over certain lineup decisions. Make the best informed decisions 371 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 6: and just go with them. Don't worry about who the 372 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 6: other team has. You can't control that. Hopefully, Zach Charbonnet 373 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 6: boosted you into the fantasy playoffs. The number one fantasy 374 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 6: running back of Week fourteen with thirty eight point four 375 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 6: Fantasy points. If he is pressing into an expanded role 376 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 6: again this week, you have to start him. Keep checking 377 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 6: Seahawks dot com to see what the running back injury 378 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 6: situation is. Other running backs to strongly consider for this week. Rico' 379 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 6: dadell is a must start two consecutive one hundred yard games, 380 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 6: and the Dallas Cowboys have a top five offensive line 381 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 6: pass blocking matchup grade on Pro Football Focus. This week 382 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 6: against the Carolina Panthers. Also, if you need a flex 383 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 6: top twenty five guy to stream, Sincere McCormick of the 384 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 6: Raiders will now be the lead running back for Las 385 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 6: Vegas and he has a good matchup this week as well. 386 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 6: At wide receiver, you want a piece fantasy wise of 387 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 6: that Buffalo Detroit game, you have to go with Khalil 388 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 6: Shakira as a must start fantasy wide receiver three. He 389 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 6: has an excellent wide receiver quarterback matchup grade against Buffalo 390 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 6: on Pro Football Focus for this week. Also, you've got 391 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 6: to go back to Darnell Moony. He's got a great 392 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 6: matchup against the Las Vegas Raiders coming off a career 393 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 6: a high one hundred and forty two receiving yards, and 394 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 6: he has over eighty five as in four of his 395 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 6: last six games. At quarterback, you want to go with 396 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 6: Tua Tongue of Viola. The Houston Texans have allowed the 397 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 6: most passing touchdowns to opposing quarterbacks with twenty six. Go 398 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 6: to Seahawks dot Com News Fantasy Insiders, we have more 399 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 6: recommended starters for you. Your top twelve fantasy insurance running 400 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 6: backs that you need to pick up for the fantasy 401 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 6: playoffs defensive streamers for Week fifteen and sixteen a lot more, 402 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 6: and also check out my lineup rankings at rotoballer dot com. 403 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 6: Back to you, Jen and John for Week fifteen Packers 404 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 6: versus Seahawks. 405 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Scott. Okay, I know everybody has 406 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: their own measures of what makes a good playoff team 407 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: or a good team down the stretch. Again, in reading 408 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: about this matchup and you go strength on strength, there's 409 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: a lot of people that are saying, look at what 410 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: Jordan Love is doing for the second straight year late 411 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: in the year, it's the quarterback who makes the biggest 412 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: difference during this point of the year and in the playoffs. 413 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: And I say, I don't know about that, Like, you 414 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: need a good quarterback. But back to what you were 415 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: saying about the defensive line, John, wouldn't you rank a 416 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 2: solid defense or solid run game ahead of the quarterback? 417 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean depends on degrees of how good is 418 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 4: this defensive line? Where's the quarterback at? Still, no matter 419 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 4: how good you are in a run game and defense, 420 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 4: you still need good quarterback play to be successful because 421 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 4: that position, just the nature of it, you're controlling so much. 422 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: The quarterback's got to do his job. 423 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 4: But yes, if you can run the game like run 424 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 4: the ball like the Seawks did last game, if you 425 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 4: have a defense playing like the way the s X is, 426 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 4: you sure can ease that burden on the quarterback and 427 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 4: you're not asking him to do nearly as much, which 428 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 4: we saw that Gino Smith played great against Arizona, but 429 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 4: there is way less on his plate of Like you 430 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 4: don't have to throw forty times throw for three hund 431 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 4: and fifty yards. 432 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: Well, I would also say, especially in the case of 433 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 2: the Packers, I just want my quarterback to have good 434 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: decision making skills, right because you're playing in crappy weather 435 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: for most of the time in that conference. At this time, 436 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: I don't need you to be the superstar. What I 437 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: need is for my run game to be going and 438 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: my defense to be right where the Seahawks defense. 439 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, it's what every coach will tell you 440 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 4: when they talk about complimentary football, like it is really 441 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 4: hard to win consistently when you have to lean incredibly 442 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 4: hard on one aspect of your game, whether it's the 443 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 4: quarterback playing out of his mind or the defense just 444 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 4: completely shutting the team out. Like that's you can't win 445 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 4: consistently that way, or you rarely can win consistently that 446 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 4: way in the NFL. So it's when you're getting all 447 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 4: those things working together, that's how you'd be a really good, 448 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 4: dangerous football team. 449 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: Speaking of complimentary football, that's the way I always thought 450 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 2: the Ravens looked right the last couple of years. There's 451 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: no let up, and I think we saw a great 452 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: example of that in Arizona. Defense forces the turnover, offense comes, 453 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 2: it's quick change, you score, defense forces another turnover, and 454 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: then the offense gets points off of that too. It's 455 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 2: one of those where the opponent doesn't have any room 456 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: to catch their breath like it is going back and forth, 457 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 2: and we saw that with Baltimore, and now I think 458 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: that's kind of where we are. And to me, like 459 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: that's part of complimentary football. It shows up in time 460 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: of possession, but it's also what's that overall feeling and 461 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: intensity during the course of the game. 462 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I'm greeting. I really wanted to just 463 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: bury him there. Last week when had that. 464 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 4: Position at the end of the half and then they 465 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 4: got the ball to start the second half, was like, man, 466 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 4: they could have really blown that up. But Hey, they 467 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 4: did more than enough to win that game. I know, 468 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 4: you beat a good team by double digits on the road, 469 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 4: that's a great win. 470 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: Well, look, here's the other thing. It is a division opponent. 471 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: These teams know each other very well. It was very fluky. 472 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: I think with the Packers, you have some idea of 473 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: what to expect, and we know that there have been 474 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 2: some I'm just going to say, fluky games and plays 475 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: against the Packers at bloomen Field. 476 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: I know, totally normal football. 477 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: It's just totally normal. It's just some of the best 478 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: highlights in Seahawks history that you are ever going to see. 479 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: I kind of hope that we're not leaning that direction. 480 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: I do know though, it's not just the Packers, but 481 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 2: upcoming on the schedule, it's the Packers, the Vikings, the Bears. 482 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: There's a very similar style of football that gets played 483 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: and it's going to be on display with the pack 484 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: They play a. 485 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 5: Great brand of football. They play winning football. They've been 486 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 5: doing it throughout their entire franchise history and especially since 487 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 5: since Matt's got there and doing his things. So we 488 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 5: got a lot of respect for them and how they play. 489 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 5: They're a physical football team. They play really hard. They 490 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 5: attack the football, they take care of it on offense. 491 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 5: They do all the things necessary that you need to 492 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 5: do to be a to be a really good football team. 493 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: They do those things. 494 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: Mike McDonald talking about the Packers. We are broadcasting from 495 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 2: the Seahawks Podcast Studio presented by Sony, the official headphones 496 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 2: partner of the Seattle Seahawks. Okay, so the Packers, they 497 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: can clinch a playoff spot this weekend. Yes, there's a 498 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: lot of talk about how they've had no bad losses. Yeah, 499 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 2: why does it matter, because I'm going to tell you this, 500 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: they haven't necessarily had great wins either, if we're going 501 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 2: to count it that way. 502 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 4: But yeah, people want to look at here's the teams 503 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 4: they've lost to the record. I think the teams they've 504 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 4: lost to have a combined five losses. So the thought 505 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 4: is they've only lost to the best teams in the 506 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 4: league and otherwise they're right up there, which you can 507 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 4: make argument, but I don't think that makes them unbeatable. 508 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to say this. They beat Chicago by 509 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: one point. They beat Jacksonville by three points, and that 510 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 2: was a high scoring game for a Jacksonville team that 511 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: hasn't been able to do a whole lot, and against Indy, 512 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 2: granted it was early in the year, they scored just 513 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 2: sixteen points. I would say they have some wins that 514 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: are not good. Also, I'm not interested in going like 515 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 2: down the row like it doesn't work in the NFL. 516 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: It it doesn't, and I'm not interested in doing that 517 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: on either side. I just I'm really curious to see 518 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 2: how this matchup plays out. 519 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 4: Can I take us on a slight detour from something 520 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 4: I heard from Mike McDonald, Yes, he talked about they've 521 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 4: done it forever in their history. I'm going to use 522 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 4: that as a moment to plug Mike Holmgren's Hall of 523 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 4: Fame candiasy because he was just named the finalists. 524 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: Yes, the Packers have a rich history. 525 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 4: Go look at their history between the sixties and when 526 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 4: Mike Holmgren got there, it was not very good. He 527 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 4: turned them around. I mean they were like a super Bowl. 528 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 4: You know, the early NFL champions in the sixties didn't 529 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,479 Speaker 4: do much of anything till Home Ring got there. Over 530 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 4: a twenty plus your span, it was really came to 531 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 4: Seattle turned that franchise around. 532 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: So I'm just saying for the Hall of Fame voters, Yep, 533 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: get him in. 534 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 5: Yep. 535 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: He deserves it. 536 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: He does. Indeed, he was around the practice facility. 537 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 4: Saw locker room watching everyone kind of flock to him 538 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 4: as Gino Smith comes up to him. 539 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was going to say, and he has 540 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: a presence when he walks into the room, like you 541 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: know that coach Holmgren is in the room. Let me 542 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 2: also say this kind of on that same vein. We 543 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: have heard references to the Seahawks past so many times 544 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,959 Speaker 2: in the last four or five weeks. Whether it's bringing 545 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 2: back the Legion of Boom style of practices and accountability, 546 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 2: whether it's the run game and what they did for 547 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: with Marshawn who also was at the practice facility this week, 548 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 2: or kind of the lessons learned. I do want to 549 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: point out that culture is still ingrained, right. It hasn't 550 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: gone away because there was a fear, I think, or 551 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: maybe a concern or questions about what happens to the 552 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 2: Seahawks history and do they still care about what happened 553 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 2: under previous coaches. Yeah, it hasn't gone away, whether it 554 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 2: was Kobe Bryant Payne tribute to Marshaan or like any 555 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 2: number of things, like it is still very much ingrained 556 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: what Seahawks football looks like. 557 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you can go back to the introductory 558 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 4: press commerce for Mike McDonald and he and John Schneider 559 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 4: talked about that, like, this is not a coaching change 560 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 4: where you need to come in and make a culture change, 561 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 4: Like the culture was great here. You still have the 562 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 4: same front office, You have a lot of the same 563 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 4: business office people like the building. The culture in the 564 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 4: building is a lot like what Pete Carroll and John 565 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 4: Schneider and through them Paul Allen as well built here. 566 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 4: And I mean, really you can go back to the 567 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 4: Homegrren now too. It could start with him, but it's Yeah, 568 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 4: this was Mike McDonald came in to help get some 569 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 4: football things cleaned up, but this was not a total 570 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 4: overhaul of the program, and you can feel that connection 571 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 4: to it. Mike, Mike McDonald's still embraces that because he 572 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 4: understands like that's important. These guys are a big part 573 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 4: of this team's history. So yeah, we're gonna see marshaull 574 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 4: nch out there. We saw Cam, we saw sum out 575 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 4: there during training camp. So's that's still going to be 576 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 4: there for this organization. 577 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 2: Well, Mike McDonald's also a football junkie. Yeah, and he 578 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: appreciates good football. And I'm sure he's chancer was here. 579 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 4: And was training out the way he talked about like 580 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 4: he was just like a fan, like, oh man, that's 581 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 4: Cam Chancellor. 582 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh gosh, it is cool to have all of that. 583 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: And again, some of the greatest moments in Seahawks history 584 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 2: have come against the Packers. We need to talk about JSN, 585 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 2: We need to talk about what the Seahawks need to 586 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: do for a win. But first let's pause for a 587 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: word from our presenting sponsor. 588 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 7: Statistically, the world is losing color. 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Delta, Official Airline. 597 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 2: Of the Seattle Seahawks' broadcasting from the Seahawks podcast Studio 598 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 2: presented by Sony, the official headphones partner of the Seattle Seahawks. 599 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 2: And we probably waited too long to talk to about JSN, 600 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna say this is another strength on strength John, 601 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 2: the way that Jackson Smith and Jigba has been playing 602 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 2: the leading receiver for six straight games for the Seahawks. 603 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 2: But when you look at the Packers, while they are 604 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 2: giving up a fair amount of yards in the air, 605 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 2: that secondary is really good at taking the ball away. 606 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: Their turnover differential is among the best in the league. 607 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 2: Second most interceptions and most points off of takeovers. Takeovers, 608 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 2: I'd like to take over. That's really what I would 609 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 2: like for being called takeaways and or turnovers or the 610 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 2: new stat that I just takeovers. 611 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: Yead is taking to put that in a story this week. 612 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: Well, you can take over a game, John, So I 613 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: don't think I'm that far off. Yes, And we have 614 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: seen Jasen essentially take over a game with some of 615 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: these jaw dropping plays. 616 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 5: Well, I think it starts with just his competitiveness. And 617 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 5: the guy's really, you know, just a great competitor, so 618 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 5: he's kind of relentless in that matter. But like skill set, well, 619 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,719 Speaker 5: I was we talked about in the offseason. He's got 620 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 5: great hands and then like the lower body, like power 621 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 5: and flexibility of getting in and out of breaks. It's 622 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 5: tough to stick with him. And then, like I said earlier, 623 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 5: as he's starting to get Mike more catches and stuff, 624 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 5: you know, I think he's generating a chemistry with with 625 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 5: with Geno, like lay and downs and stuff, finding open 626 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 5: windows and zones, and Gino's finding them. 627 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 4: As you mentioned, six straight games leading the team in receiving, 628 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 4: He's got five hundred and ninety two yards four touchdowns 629 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 4: over that span. He's up to six in the entire 630 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 4: NFL and receiving. You he's he's crazy because DK was 631 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 4: like DK was like top three before he is injured. Yeah, 632 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 4: and it's good segue mentioned DK. One thing that Mike 633 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 4: McDonald talked about a little bit, and Jays I would 634 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 4: be the first says too, like the way teams defend 635 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 4: DK Metcalf very much plays into what Jasn is doing. 636 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 4: That's not to take away from and Jig, but like 637 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 4: he had one hundred and eight yards with DK Metcalf injured, 638 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 4: So that's saying that's the only reason. 639 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: But if you watch the way teams. 640 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 4: Even when DK Metcalf is not getting the most targets currently, 641 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 4: it's teams are putting so much effort into taking the 642 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 4: deep ball away from him because he's such a downfield 643 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 4: threat that it's creating other opportunities and Gino Smith and 644 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 4: Jackson Smith and Jigbar are really taking advantage well. 645 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: And DK is not just like taking on the double 646 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 2: teams and just letting them take him out of the game. 647 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: He's he's making guys pay like he is a physical, 648 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 2: physical wide receiver. Yeah. 649 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 4: I tweeted this during the game. I was like, I 650 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 4: don't know if I've ever seen a like Pro Bowl 651 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 4: caliber receiver who just seems to really enjoy run blocking 652 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 4: quite like, like he gets into it. 653 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: He does well. 654 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: His dad was an offensive line so that's part like. 655 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 4: Where does that come from? Well, my dad was an 656 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 4: NFL lineman. Yeah, I kind of inherit that mentality a 657 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 4: little bit. 658 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 3: Well. 659 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: And he loved Sean Merriman, like he wanted to be 660 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 2: able to hit like Sean Merriman. That's one of the 661 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: things that he said before the season started. And I'm like, well, 662 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: that is different for a wide receiver. They're usually trying 663 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 2: to avoid those sorts of things. He's looking for that contact. 664 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: And I also want to go back to the point 665 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: we made. DK's fine with Jason getting the touches. Yeah, 666 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: Tyler Lockett. I would love to see Lockett get a 667 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: little bit more involved, but you know he's there as 668 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: a threats. 669 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 4: Yeah and yeah, I mean he hasn't been getting the 670 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 4: targets lately, but teams still have to respect him. And 671 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 4: it's still you know, when those three guys are on 672 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 4: the field together, that's really hard for defenses to decide 673 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 4: how they want to do it well. 674 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: And if you're going to like scoop the ball up 675 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: off the turf with like a grass blade, like a 676 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 2: blade of grass in between. I was like, oh my gosh. Yeah, 677 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 2: he's gotten some not quite circus catches, but like degree 678 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: of difficult. 679 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 4: Many receivers just go to the ground there to make 680 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 4: sure they catch it, but he's like, no, I can 681 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 4: scoop it and go I can do that, yeah, and 682 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 4: go run ten more yards after the catches. 683 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: He's a complete package. He is a great receiver. 684 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: He has been really fun to watch and the Seahawks 685 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: are going to need all of that playmaking this week 686 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 2: against the Packers. They're probably going to need a few 687 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 2: more things. John Woody got what are the two things 688 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 2: you need to see from the Seahawks. 689 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 4: I want to end Jordan Love's interceptionless streak. The Sacks 690 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 4: have been taking the ball away at a pretty high 691 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 4: rate seven straight games. 692 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: I think. 693 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: I think so sounds about right. I'll go with that. 694 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's get another interception or two. Okay, get the 695 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 4: takeaways and then I just want to see their un game. 696 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: Keep doing with so. And you gave me a hard 697 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: time for being greedy when I said that about it. 698 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: I actually thought about that on the side side joke. 699 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 4: Like, let's make it one hundred and forty and you're laughing. No, 700 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 4: one seventy six. No, but we don't need one hundred 701 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 4: and seventy six. I'll take it if we can get it. 702 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 4: But just have that that threat of a run game 703 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 4: that you know, help the offensive line out, help Geno out, 704 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 4: and just be able to move. 705 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: The ball on the ground. Yeah. 706 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: I would say this, and this might sound really basic, 707 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: but I want the Seahawks to score first because Green 708 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: Bay has been really good at jumping out to an 709 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 2: early lead, not just in the game, but scoring on 710 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 2: the opening drive of the second half. When they do that, 711 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: they are in control. They're seven and one when they 712 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: get out to an early lead, I think, is that number. 713 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 2: I shouldn't have said that because now you're gonna quote 714 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 2: me on it, and I actually need to go back 715 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: and look that one up. But I want the early 716 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 2: lead against the Packers. Do not let them get comfortable. 717 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: And I could say I want red zone defense, keep 718 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 2: like maintaining the level they're at, because during this five 719 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: game stretch they are twelve at converting touchdowns in the 720 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 2: red zone. But I'm actually gonna say, Jalen Darden, yeah, 721 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: let's get some good return yards. 722 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 6: Yeah. 723 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: He's a fun, little like kind of quiet, kind of understated. 724 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: Was literally meeting teammates and coaches on the sidelines during 725 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 2: the game. 726 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 4: We asked him yesterday, like, yeah, could you have named 727 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 4: everybody who blocked for you on Sunday? He's like no, No, 728 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 4: He's like, I'm working on that, but yeah, yeah, he 729 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 4: got here late Friday, din't even practice Friday. He got 730 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 4: here after practice Friday, got I'm playing with the team Saturday, 731 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 4: and go return punts and kicks the next day. 732 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, and he's like, yeah, it's just fuck, just 733 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 2: tell me what you want me to do. And also 734 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: I was like, I love doing it. Not everybody can 735 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 2: do it. There's a lot of pressure and a lot 736 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: of stress. Good with it. It's like, okay, well how 737 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: about if we break a return in front of the twelves? 738 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: Love it? 739 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 2: That's what I got, another big play. I am sure 740 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 2: that this is gonna be another one for the highlight reel, 741 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: maybe even record books. It is a primetime matchup on Sunday. 742 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: There'll be plenty to talk about next week, which is 743 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 2: when we will be back with a brand new episode 744 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: of the Seahawks Insiders podcast.