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Speaker 1: Did let me just become best friends? Fantasy best Friends Forever?
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Speaker 1: no noa La la la la la no no no
Speaker 1: no non na Yo. This is the Fantasy best Friends Forever.
Speaker 1: I am not Greg Susman. I'm Frank Standford. Greg Sussman
Speaker 1: is out somewhere doing executive, big guy important things. But
Speaker 1: I'm not alone. I'm joined by the Allend kid who's
Speaker 1: sticking around doing some overtime here on the Best Friends Forever. Jake,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Man? That's the intro. Now that that's
Speaker 1: what your guys are doing. The fact that you don't
Speaker 1: know by now that that was the intro means you
Speaker 1: haven't been watching all weeks, so that makes me a
Speaker 1: little said. I've been a little busy this week. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm trying to get ready for the NFL season.
Speaker 1: Yeah that. Speaking of which, Jake, we have a game tonight,
Speaker 1: but I know you're probably not excited about it, are you.
Speaker 1: That's not a game. That's not a game. That's not
Speaker 1: what we have a preseason game. It's something it's not.
Speaker 1: It's just an extended practice, is what tonight is? How
Speaker 1: long do you think the starters staying? But serious series? Right?
Speaker 1: But people are gonna get hyped up about Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you that, and I guarantee a lot. He's
Speaker 1: probably gonna be in DFS tonight. Oh god, I can't
Speaker 1: even imagine DFS preseason for one game. That is Ah,
Speaker 1: that's an saying. So what do you think about the intro?
Speaker 1: Why didn't you join me in singing it? Um? Because
Speaker 1: I like quality music and that was not really you're
Speaker 1: telling me you never danced that song back, and I
Speaker 1: don't know when it came out. I never jammed to
Speaker 1: that song in my entire life. I can at least
Speaker 1: appreciate some third eye blind, but not that. Sorry now,
Speaker 1: So here's the thing, right, like third Eye Blind, that
Speaker 1: was our thing with Florio. Myself, Greg Susman and I
Speaker 1: feel like we can't do it anymore because we don't
Speaker 1: have the trio around, Like it just brings up too
Speaker 1: many sad memories of losing Florio, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: So then you need to find out who your new
Speaker 1: third is going to be and work out something with him.
Speaker 1: Definitely not the Nanna Donna whatever that was, oh Man. Alright,
Speaker 1: So we we did get a few requests of songs
Speaker 1: that people want us to try, one of them being
Speaker 1: song Too by Blur whoa Bivona? I say, I appreciate that, Bivona.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to try that out tomorrow if we
Speaker 1: could set that up. But you can get behind that, Jake.
Speaker 1: I could definitely get behind that. But Greg has to
Speaker 1: try and sing the word of the words. I don't
Speaker 1: know how far we'll get into the song. Nobody knows
Speaker 1: anything after woo who Yeah, absolutely remember that song was
Speaker 1: in like FIFA ninety What what's the other one? What's up?
Speaker 1: I said, I think it's when I feel heavy metal?
Speaker 1: And then I said, what song was the other one
Speaker 1: that you said it was the song the song to
Speaker 1: one by Blur, So you have one idea. I mean,
Speaker 1: people are sending us some ideas. We don't know how
Speaker 1: we feel about it. I'll look through the chat during
Speaker 1: the break send some more ideas. Don't like Greg Sings
Speaker 1: been getting beat up by by the YouTube commentars because
Speaker 1: apparently he's tone deaf, which is probably not wrong. Hey, Jet,
Speaker 1: are you gonna be my girl? That's a solid one.
Speaker 1: That's a solid that's a solid one. That's not bad either.
Speaker 1: We need something I mean that's really annoying to sing
Speaker 1: along with. So that's why we tried this out. I mean,
Speaker 1: people Do Do Doo was very polarizing. It's either you
Speaker 1: loved it or you hated it. There was never any
Speaker 1: middle ground. That's I can see that well that that
Speaker 1: gets because it kind of wears after a while, the
Speaker 1: dode do Dude part, like, that's not even the good
Speaker 1: part of the song, even if you are a fan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's subjective, Jake, is it all right? Well? Anyway,
Speaker 1: when we were gonna talk about today, which we will
Speaker 1: get into at some point hopefully on today's show us,
Speaker 1: we were gonna talk about some of the players that
Speaker 1: you shouldn't forget about during the draft season, Guys that
Speaker 1: are going a little bit later on, maybe some older
Speaker 1: veteran dude, some guys maybe dealing with suspensions. Which leads
Speaker 1: me to the stat of the day, the nugget of
Speaker 1: the day, whatever we're calling it. We haven't really decided.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll get some thoughts from Jake on what we
Speaker 1: should call our stat of the day, but today and
Speaker 1: I feel like it's relevant to you, Jake, because it's
Speaker 1: something that you have brought up throughout this draft season
Speaker 1: and even before the draft season. In the eleven games
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston started and finished, he averaged three hundred and
Speaker 1: six point nine passing yards per game, one point seven
Speaker 1: three passing touchdowns, one interception, sixteen game pace, forty nine
Speaker 1: hundred passing yards, twenty seven point six tds, sixteen interceptions.
Speaker 1: That would have that would have brought him pretty close
Speaker 1: to being a top twelve tight end, or he would
Speaker 1: have been right inside that top twelve and my right cheek,
Speaker 1: he actually would have been, yes, inside the top twelve.
Speaker 1: He would have been at QB one last year, actually
Speaker 1: inside the top ten, which everybody was taking him as
Speaker 1: last years like QB nine, I think was his a
Speaker 1: d P at the end of the preseason. The look,
Speaker 1: we don't ever want to extrapolate, and I said those
Speaker 1: numbers not to say I think he's definitively a top
Speaker 1: ten quarterback. My entire point was people were taking him
Speaker 1: as a top ten quarterback, saying he was going to
Speaker 1: take the step forward, expecting him to take a step forward,
Speaker 1: and for all intensive purposes, he took the step forward,
Speaker 1: and then people were writing them off this year. So
Speaker 1: before the suspension happened, I was saying he was last
Speaker 1: year's trash because nobody was taking him as an even
Speaker 1: a top fifteen quarterback. He was down there with Marcus Mariota,
Speaker 1: is the sevente nineteenth quarterback off the board, behind Jimmy
Speaker 1: Garoppolo and Pat Mahomes and even like a Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: at times. But Jamis Winston still has that same upside.
Speaker 1: Now you have to chop out the games that he's
Speaker 1: going to miss, but that's that's what makes him somebody
Speaker 1: in a good best ball format, let somebody else possibly
Speaker 1: draft because you don't want to draft them because the
Speaker 1: first four of the five weeks he's going he has
Speaker 1: a by and then the three suspension games. But when
Speaker 1: he comes back, he could be a QB one if
Speaker 1: your QB ends up being a missed Yeah, and I think,
Speaker 1: especially in super flex, that's what I wanted to bring
Speaker 1: up to you, like a strategy conversation, and I found
Speaker 1: some Look, these are not attractive quarterback options, but guys
Speaker 1: that go late in drafts that maybe you can pair
Speaker 1: with Winston to start the first three games until he's back.
Speaker 1: I think this is more of a super flex strategy.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would take Winston as my
Speaker 1: QB one. Maybe he's not drafted in leagues where you
Speaker 1: start only one quarterback and then you pick him up
Speaker 1: once he returns. He has the bye week in Week five,
Speaker 1: so it's kind of annoying. He comes back for Week
Speaker 1: four and then the bye week, but then you have
Speaker 1: the rest of the season with Winston. We're gonna bring
Speaker 1: up some of these names and you tell me if
Speaker 1: you think any of them are viable to work with
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston in a super flex strategy, Jake the Jets quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: whoever it is, Josh McCown, Sam Donald the first three
Speaker 1: games Detroit, Miami, Cleveland would pairing one of them account
Speaker 1: or Sam Donald with wins interest you at all? M
Speaker 1: M no, because I don't want to rely on Sam
Speaker 1: Donald to start my season. I'm gonna rely on any
Speaker 1: rookie to start my season unless it's Lamar Jackson, and
Speaker 1: that's not happening that Yeah, Lamar Jackson. Everyone's talking him up. Look,
Speaker 1: I know some people think that Josh McCown being the
Speaker 1: quarterback is better for the weapons who start the year.
Speaker 1: And I get it because he he's played at an
Speaker 1: NFL level and he we saw him make Robby Anderson
Speaker 1: a thing last year. We've seen him make some receivers
Speaker 1: Fantasy vibal in years past. But can't you argue that
Speaker 1: Sam Donald's probably better than Josh McCown at this point.
Speaker 1: Not probably, he is, it's just whether or not he's
Speaker 1: ready as a rookie. And the biggest thing with Sam
Speaker 1: Donald is the turnovers. And he could easily if he's
Speaker 1: starting sixteen games, he could easily throw for four thousand
Speaker 1: plus yards and throw it for mid twenties touchdowns. The
Speaker 1: only problem is this, Let's say let's get him and
Speaker 1: twenty five touchdowns is a full time starter all sixteen games,
Speaker 1: that's probably gonna come with about eighteen interceptions, and that's
Speaker 1: the issue. When it comes down to Sam Donald, Well,
Speaker 1: you only need him for those first three games, right
Speaker 1: like theoretically until Jameis Winston comes back, and then for
Speaker 1: the Eye week. I'll throw some other names out at
Speaker 1: you with Dak Prescott. That said, I'd rather roll with
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott for the first three weeks. Well, there you
Speaker 1: go that he's actually one of the guys that I
Speaker 1: have on the list. Here he faces Carolina, the Giants
Speaker 1: in Seattle, where all those games can be competitive, maybe
Speaker 1: higher scoring games, especially with Seattle, like the defense is
Speaker 1: not going to be as good this year, especially with
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas wanting out. Dak Prescott is one of them.
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill, which is obviously very iffy, but I'm just
Speaker 1: looking at the matchups here Tennessee, the Jets, Oakland, and
Speaker 1: then Tyrod. I think this one might make the most
Speaker 1: sense because even if he doesn't start the whole season,
Speaker 1: he's definitely gonna start at least the first three games
Speaker 1: unless Hugh Jackson does something crazy, not like he's done
Speaker 1: that before. But Tyrod and Brown's play the Steelers, the Saints,
Speaker 1: and the Jets the first three weeks. So of Tyrod
Speaker 1: Dak Tannehill in the Jets quarterback situation, who do you
Speaker 1: like best and do you think this can work as
Speaker 1: like your QB two in a super flex strategy taking
Speaker 1: one of these guys with Jameis Winston. No, Tyrod would
Speaker 1: be the last on the last off. I'm drafting Jamis
Speaker 1: Winston because look at that you just mentioned the first
Speaker 1: two games the Steelers and the Saints, and the Saints
Speaker 1: have a terrific defense. You can tell me that they
Speaker 1: couldn't start owing two and Tyrod looks terrible, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Bakers in week three, Like, I'm
Speaker 1: just not gonna roll the dice on that one, and
Speaker 1: the Baker Mayfield, I wouldn't be surprised to starting week one.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be honestly surprised he's not starting to week twelve.
Speaker 1: It's all going to depend on how the Browns and
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor look. But Tyrod Taylor was also benched last
Speaker 1: year for Nathan freaking Peterman. So that's the issue with
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor. He's great fantasy because of the rushing, but
Speaker 1: in real life he's always been an adequate, not very
Speaker 1: good quarterback for winning teams. And yeah the team the
Speaker 1: Bills were nine and seven, all that type stuff, but
Speaker 1: if you look at the performance, it wasn't like he
Speaker 1: was the one propelling them to nine and seven. It
Speaker 1: was a group effort, similar to Trent Dilford with the
Speaker 1: Ravens back in the day. But for fantasy purposes, I
Speaker 1: would actually probably go with Ryan Tannehill while healthy. At
Speaker 1: least he's throwing, he's done it before, or four thousand
Speaker 1: yards and mid to high twenty touchdowns. I could see
Speaker 1: that like being a decent first three games for him.
Speaker 1: I think that's a good call too. I don't think
Speaker 1: the Dolphins defense is gonna be all that great. They
Speaker 1: don't have amazing weapons there. They have Kenny Stills, DeVante
Speaker 1: Parker who apparently looks terrible in training camp. They have
Speaker 1: Danny Amondola. So I think they're gonna be trailing in
Speaker 1: some games they're gonna have to throw the ball. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to throw that out there. It's like a
Speaker 1: two QB strategy. I feel like people are sleeping on
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston a little bit too much. You get him
Speaker 1: late in drafts, you pair him with the Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: or one of these guys and then you figure it
Speaker 1: out from there. Speaking of Baker Mayfield and Tyrod Taylor, Jake,
Speaker 1: we mentioned this a little bit on the Fantasy Football Frenzy.
Speaker 1: How are you attacking the wide receiver position right now
Speaker 1: in Cleveland? Because I know you didn't like Jervis Landry
Speaker 1: and I was in the same boat with you. Everything
Speaker 1: says that Tyrod Taylor a better down the field thrower
Speaker 1: that lends itself more to Josh Gordon. But with Josh
Speaker 1: Gordon right now, and I know you're in drafts, like
Speaker 1: what do you do? How far do you let Josh
Speaker 1: Gordon fall? Are you actually looking to pick up Jarvis Landry?
Speaker 1: They were talking to Dez Bryant. That actually scares me
Speaker 1: even more about Josh Gordon. Maybe the team knows something
Speaker 1: we don't, and they know that Josh Gordon is gonna
Speaker 1: be out longer than he actually is. What's going on
Speaker 1: with the Brown said suation, And are you moving Jervis Landry? No,
Speaker 1: I have no I have no insight to this A
Speaker 1: one key one side of it. You can say, hey,
Speaker 1: it looks great. They're doing what they need to do
Speaker 1: to make sure Josh Gordon stays on track. And there's
Speaker 1: was one beat reporter who said he's doing this mainly
Speaker 1: because of the Hard Knocks situation and just wants to
Speaker 1: avoid the camera and the potential to goof around or like.
Speaker 1: So I understand that. On the flip side, this is
Speaker 1: also you know, does he need this throughout the season?
Speaker 1: Like what happens if Week eight rolls around and Josh
Speaker 1: Gordon needs to step away for the next three weeks
Speaker 1: like that? I just I don't know where this is going,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't make me feel good about it at all.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can take Josh Gordon as the
Speaker 1: top three wide receiver despite the fact that he has
Speaker 1: top twenty, top fifteen potential. So Jervis Landry is, as
Speaker 1: you know, you've seen me saying this network before. He's
Speaker 1: a hundred percent relying on the mount of targets he gets,
Speaker 1: the amount of targets he gets, the amount of fantasy
Speaker 1: productions he's gonna get. This Josh Gordon situation would make
Speaker 1: you feel better about him. But to go back to
Speaker 1: what you said about Tyrod Taylor, he actually had a
Speaker 1: better a dot than Jay Cutler did last year. Who
Speaker 1: Jay Cutler was playing with Jarvi Landry. So you know,
Speaker 1: the whole mystique about Tyrod being a safe quarterback is
Speaker 1: actually not true. He's just again to go back to
Speaker 1: what sent before, it's just not that great of a quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's actually more aggressive than people give him credit for.
Speaker 1: So that would help Josh Gordon. If Josh Gordon's on
Speaker 1: the field. So you know, Jervis Landry, I'd prefer to
Speaker 1: be my wide receiver three. Somebody's probably gonna take him
Speaker 1: as their wide receiver two and PPR again, Josh Gordon
Speaker 1: is going to be your decision to make on how
Speaker 1: risky you want your team to be. Hija and the
Speaker 1: returning everybody, It's good to be back to sing without
Speaker 1: you was terrible. It didn't not go well. I don't know,
Speaker 1: probably absolutely not start taking the suggestions in the chat
Speaker 1: room for your new song though. Yeah, was there any consensus? No,
Speaker 1: but there's a good there's a couple of good suggestions. Well,
Speaker 1: we had some good ideas and we just we keep
Speaker 1: doing this la lalla things. Listen, I was just in
Speaker 1: a meeting, la thing. It was just in this meeting
Speaker 1: and someone comes off He's like dude, I love I
Speaker 1: love the like. Yeah, it's Franks fall I don't do
Speaker 1: it anymore. It's not true. I swear to you. This
Speaker 1: just happened. By the way, all right, we're gonna put
Speaker 1: up a poll at the end of the week tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We're gonna try a song too by blur from that
Speaker 1: out there that's there, jet Are you gonna be my girls? There?
Speaker 1: I don't know that. That's not good? Okay, Well, sabotage
Speaker 1: was mine. Somebody said, smells like team spirit. Somebody said,
Speaker 1: let me clear my throat. What do we do? Do
Speaker 1: we look like the DMX thing says that really great
Speaker 1: speedwhacken who sings that it's not t MX. I can
Speaker 1: assure you that let me clear my throat is DJ
Speaker 1: cool with a K. Right. Seriously, you didn't know, Frank,
Speaker 1: You have no idea. You didn't guess. At least I
Speaker 1: gave a guest. I know the song, obviously, everyone knows
Speaker 1: the song. Just didn't know singing. I knew it wasn't
Speaker 1: d MX. That was for sure. You could do a
Speaker 1: system of a down. I don't think your system of
Speaker 1: a down, guys. I need singing, I need singing along
Speaker 1: stuff that's that's to be. But like, there's no there's
Speaker 1: no like opening to that though, there's no like. That's
Speaker 1: why I think blur too works out well, right, So
Speaker 1: I totally agree with that. I think we should try that.
Speaker 1: We think sabotage works well too. I have to hear it.
Speaker 1: I don't remember it. That's got a really good lead up.
Speaker 1: All right, continue listen. I'll listen to it after I
Speaker 1: listen to it after the show. Sanging a karaoke I mean,
Speaker 1: if you if you jump to the middle of the song,
Speaker 1: Greg when they do the breakdown, there's a long breakdown
Speaker 1: and that comes back and it's just like basically screaming, yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty much. It's very interest. Put up a poll tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It'll be which do you want to? Wait a minute, wait,
Speaker 1: let the people decide to be here next week? Okay,
Speaker 1: whatever I want to do, whatever you want. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: up a special guest next week. Maybe you will be
Speaker 1: doing going next week? Where are you? Where are you
Speaker 1: going this week? I'm coming to visit you, Jake, you beach. No,
Speaker 1: I'm going to Myrtle BEA's all right? Are you gonna
Speaker 1: stop on your way through? Now? I will be on
Speaker 1: an airplane which no connecting flights, thank god. Sure all
Speaker 1: wave look at the little map, the virtual map on
Speaker 1: the airplane when I'm passing over Virginia Beach and just
Speaker 1: give you a little that's like the size of the
Speaker 1: state pretty much. Yeah, what do you so? I heard
Speaker 1: you talking about Jarvis Landry and Josh Gordon. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: we were talking about Jarvis Landry Josh Gordon, the Browns
Speaker 1: wide receiver situation a little bit. I brought up in
Speaker 1: a two QB league, taking Jamis Winston because he's going
Speaker 1: extremely late, he's like QB twenty off the board, and
Speaker 1: pairing him with, you know, someone who's not desirable like
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, Ryan Tannehill one of the Jets quarterbacks, because
Speaker 1: they have decent matchups early on in the season. So
Speaker 1: that's really how we've talked about in the song. What
Speaker 1: was the fact the day? In fact that the day
Speaker 1: had to do with, uh, Jamis Winston throwing his sixteen
Speaker 1: game pace over the eleven games he started and finished
Speaker 1: yards nearly twenty eight touchdowns and I believe it's six interceptions,
Speaker 1: which would have made up my top twelve quarterback. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had actually read that previously. Um, just that you
Speaker 1: didn't realize, annoying me how good he was or how
Speaker 1: good he would have extrapolated to big. You wrote it,
Speaker 1: didn't you us so big us sob You know it's
Speaker 1: I actually had no idea it was you that wrote it.
Speaker 1: But like that's how you know I actually read Jake
Speaker 1: stuff because I was right, because I was reading and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I read this really cool fact
Speaker 1: about James Winston that yes, it was jap Um. That's frustrating.
Speaker 1: If do not do top thomping. If you do top tomping,
Speaker 1: I won't watch you. We want to do tough thomping.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing tough with them tomba womba. Oh no,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do. I will not do chumbawomma. You
Speaker 1: have my word on that. All right, Um F the
Speaker 1: break and we're gonna talk to Virginia from from inside injuries.
Speaker 1: So so, Jake, I appreciate you. You hanging out while
Speaker 1: I was gone, and that was really helpful. So I
Speaker 1: appreciate that, buddy. Um, I know it's a bunch of
Speaker 1: bunch of random players that I feel like forgotten about
Speaker 1: and not and not just like guys are going at
Speaker 1: the end of draft either, like guys are going kind
Speaker 1: of early and that we haven't really talked about yet,
Speaker 1: and I think we're forgetting about them and I like them,
Speaker 1: So what's talking with that? Franka's couple also, So we'll
Speaker 1: take a break here. Virginia from Inside Injuries will join
Speaker 1: us whole bunch of injuries talking about with her. Jake,
Speaker 1: I will as March Friday. I'll talk to you next
Speaker 1: week for sure. Yeah, good awesome. I'll be back right
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Speaker 1: injury news has broken as well. This afternoon with Vanduel
Speaker 1: Um make a huge change to the DFS football getting
Speaker 1: rid of the kicker and bring in an extra flex,
Speaker 1: which I know is very warranted. We all hate the kicker.
Speaker 1: We're gonna dive into that a little bit later on
Speaker 1: in the show, and it's just what it means for
Speaker 1: DFS how you're gonna allocate your money because usually for
Speaker 1: a kicker, you would just I think it last, right, Like,
Speaker 1: whatever whatever money you have left over, you put in
Speaker 1: the kicker in a dome where it's not too windy.
Speaker 1: You obviously is a dome, like if it's nice weather,
Speaker 1: no rain, win, any of that, we would always take
Speaker 1: it for granted, you can't do that anymore, and we
Speaker 1: want to break that down for you. After he talks
Speaker 1: to Virginia Zoe from Inside Injuries, which we will do
Speaker 1: right now. What's going on Virginia Hey guys, good afternoon.
Speaker 1: How are you been? All right? We've got a gross
Speaker 1: day here in Atlanta, but doing well now grows gross,
Speaker 1: doesn't rainy or gross like disgustingly hot, lots and lots
Speaker 1: of rain. I'm sorry, it's grossly hot here and very
Speaker 1: sorry and very very sully. All right, Um, and we
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, obviously about some major injuries that
Speaker 1: we have been talking about and we have noticed over
Speaker 1: this past week. And it all starts in Seattle with
Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin who goes down with his knee injury that
Speaker 1: doctors as of late last night I read that's gonna
Speaker 1: keep him out for all of the preseason, but he
Speaker 1: should be okay for week one. Is that the case?
Speaker 1: What is this knee injury? And is it possible it
Speaker 1: will be a longer setback than that? So everything we've
Speaker 1: read so far says it's a soreny but Art them
Speaker 1: is actually calling it a Grade two injury with which
Speaker 1: indicates a moderate sprain of some sort. So you don't
Speaker 1: know exactly what's going on, um, but our algorithm is
Speaker 1: showing that the earliest T shirt return is August. That
Speaker 1: means you should probably be ready to go by week one,
Speaker 1: but his injury risk right now is very high and
Speaker 1: it will likely stay that way at least through the
Speaker 1: first few weeks of the season. All right, so the
Speaker 1: injury is gonna be high. I know you were texting
Speaker 1: in our group a few moments ago about where you
Speaker 1: value Doug Baldwin, and it was just like, there is
Speaker 1: no light, There's there's no guarantee more. He was one
Speaker 1: of the safest picks in the draft, and when you
Speaker 1: lose that, it's losing a lot. Yeah, our guy Michael
Speaker 1: Florio was texting us uh in the group chat and
Speaker 1: he was asking, like how far down are we devaluing
Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin. Like, if you're drafting tonight, a lot of
Speaker 1: drafts are going on. Corey's got his you know, beat
Speaker 1: Fantasy Exact League. He's got one today, he's got one tomorrow,
Speaker 1: So lots of drafts are happening. Where do you value
Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin. I don't think you're keeping him on that
Speaker 1: two three swing anymore. I think you kind of have
Speaker 1: to drop him down to maybe that three four going
Speaker 1: around some guys like Alor Cooper, Allen Robinson, Larry Fitzgerald,
Speaker 1: just because at least. What we have on those guys
Speaker 1: right now is that they're healthy. Allen Robinson coming off
Speaker 1: the a c L. But it looks healthy right now
Speaker 1: by all means Amari Cooper getting hyped up, the fact
Speaker 1: that he's gained weight, Larry Fitzgerald one of the iron
Speaker 1: men in the NFL. So this could be all for nothing,
Speaker 1: but as of right now, you kind of have to
Speaker 1: treat it like something and so we have more news.
Speaker 1: Absolutely totally agreeing you, you know, a choice in honest day,
Speaker 1: and I say this every year with every sport, you
Speaker 1: have to be more uh conscious of these injuries and
Speaker 1: not take them for granted. Yeah, be safe, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: Another person we wanted to ask you about who I
Speaker 1: feel like we might have asked ready, But we're getting
Speaker 1: more news now coming out and that's Chris Thompson, the
Speaker 1: Redskins running back there the past catching running back, um
Speaker 1: you know, really come out and saying he might not
Speaker 1: be a percent until in the November. Also saying that
Speaker 1: he's going to be scared to be tackled. To me,
Speaker 1: if you're a player in the NFL, especially a running back,
Speaker 1: when you touch the ball as often as you do,
Speaker 1: you can't be scared to get tackled. So this is
Speaker 1: something that worries me. He's been injury prone dating back
Speaker 1: to his days in college. How should we be treating
Speaker 1: Chris Thompson right now? Yeah, so he's recovering from a
Speaker 1: right fibula fracture that also probably included some significant ligament damage.
Speaker 1: He had five screws and a plate inserted. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: it's no surprise that they're saying it could take him
Speaker 1: around a year to feel a hundred percent. That happens
Speaker 1: a lot of the time with these very serious injuries. Um,
Speaker 1: we still have them at an elevated injury risk. And
Speaker 1: what's concerning is if a player is playing kind of tentative,
Speaker 1: they're going to be putting themselves at risk for another injury.
Speaker 1: So not only is his fibula and angle still a concern,
Speaker 1: but really any other lower body injury. Now he's in
Speaker 1: a much higher risk of suffering if he's not going
Speaker 1: hard on every play. Chris Thompson something that I was
Speaker 1: super high on. If he's not running hard in every play,
Speaker 1: that's a disaster to me. Yeah, And you know what's
Speaker 1: crazy about this is, like my dad broke his leg
Speaker 1: on the job something similar to this as plates has
Speaker 1: as a plate has screws put into his leg. Mind you,
Speaker 1: he's like thirty years older than Chris Thompson and probably
Speaker 1: just a good shape probably yeah, but he now honestly
Speaker 1: walks with a limp. Really yeah, And it's happened about
Speaker 1: a year ago now, and it's something that they're saying
Speaker 1: he's gonna have for the rest of his life. He
Speaker 1: is much older, but that's just because shape of the injury.
Speaker 1: When you have that plate and these screws, you know,
Speaker 1: basically put your leg back together. Well, that's that's very
Speaker 1: very serious and not something again we're taking brigranted. It's scary,
Speaker 1: as I said yesterday on the show, that he's not
Speaker 1: saying he's Jay Green is not saying he looks great,
Speaker 1: but he's not there yet. All the Darius guys, Baby,
Speaker 1: that makes me think a set back is very realistic
Speaker 1: and maybe you're right, Frank, all the Darius guys. Jake
Speaker 1: spoke about when we we were doing roster construction during
Speaker 1: the frenzy with Corey and he said at pick three four,
Speaker 1: the fourth pick in the third round, that he would
Speaker 1: consider taking Darius guys. And they said it's a no brainer,
Speaker 1: like that's where he's getting pushed up to the early
Speaker 1: third round. Greg, there you go, Virginia. Moving on to
Speaker 1: another Washington football play, I think you have to get
Speaker 1: to to Josh Dockson, who has been a let down
Speaker 1: of a player every year he has been in the league.
Speaker 1: He's supposed to be the red zone monster. Even Jay
Speaker 1: Gruden came out and said he's a red zone monster,
Speaker 1: but he's already hurt something that different injury. But he's
Speaker 1: been injury ravaged for each of the couple of years
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Is Josh Doson someone that we want
Speaker 1: to target this year? Um, I'd probably stay away from him,
Speaker 1: but not just because of this latest shoulder injury. Scan
Speaker 1: showed it was nothing major. There's no collar bone fracture
Speaker 1: um exactly, just a mild a c spring um we're
Speaker 1: showing by you know, in around three weeks he'll be
Speaker 1: fully healed from that. But even before camp he had
Speaker 1: hist hees looked at again, So he's an elevated injury risk.
Speaker 1: Health performance factor is now below average, which means he's
Speaker 1: not going to be performing anywhere near his peak ability
Speaker 1: just due to his achilles His shoulder and all of
Speaker 1: the issues he's had so far in his career. So
Speaker 1: Josh Dockson certainly not somebody who rely on which we
Speaker 1: order knew. Yeah, And speaking of someone you can't rely
Speaker 1: on someone that we have been able to rely on
Speaker 1: place for the Tennessee Titans, and that's wide receiver Rochard Matthews.
Speaker 1: The past couple of years, he's been incredibly reliable. He
Speaker 1: goes late in draft, he really has looked like the
Speaker 1: go to option for Marcus Mariotta in this offense, but
Speaker 1: randomly placed on the pup list now during the preseason
Speaker 1: and teammate Taywan Taylor picking up more hype here. How
Speaker 1: worried should we be about Richard Matthews and his availability
Speaker 1: for the start ard regular season. I'm gonna say we
Speaker 1: should be pretty worried here, simply because we have no
Speaker 1: idea what's going on. Um. I've read a lot of
Speaker 1: reports on this, and all I found is that something
Speaker 1: likely started, you know, earlier this summer. We don't know
Speaker 1: what body part it is, we don't know how serious
Speaker 1: it is. But if he's on a pup list and
Speaker 1: he's not practicing at all, I think that's a definite
Speaker 1: cause for concern. Um. Also, we need to remember that
Speaker 1: he's missed nine games in the last four seasons, most
Speaker 1: recently with the hamstring strain. He's also had some pretty
Speaker 1: serious rib fractures. So, um, he's got, you know what
Speaker 1: concerning injury history and now that we don't have any
Speaker 1: idea what's going on. Um, you know, it's it's hard
Speaker 1: to say that he's a guy that she should draft.
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Virginia Zaki is from Inside Injuries. Always
Speaker 1: have it to have her and Dcor and the whole
Speaker 1: crew over Inside Injuries on our show to help us
Speaker 1: fill in all the details of what we know and
Speaker 1: what we don't know, and that Rashard Matthews kind of
Speaker 1: fits in that category. Frank, we didn't know anything about
Speaker 1: and we were shocked and we saw on the pub
Speaker 1: and there's not enough information out there and making a
Speaker 1: rational decision. Yeah, and you even heard it from Virginia herself,
Speaker 1: like she looked up reports. There's we don't even know
Speaker 1: what body part is injured for Stard manages. It's very
Speaker 1: unknown injury. It's kind of a weird thing that's going
Speaker 1: on there in Tennessee camp. But someone who is benefiting
Speaker 1: from it is Taiwan Taylor who we're seeing starting to
Speaker 1: get pushed up a little bit higher going late in draft.
Speaker 1: But someone who's gaining a little bit of hype here
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones Virginia, fighting for a role in that Green
Speaker 1: Bay backfield. UM, we know he suspended in the first
Speaker 1: two weeks. We know it's competing with Jamal Williams for snaps.
Speaker 1: He's a bit nicked up in training camp. How serious
Speaker 1: his injury? UM, not too concerned about his injury at
Speaker 1: this point. We're showing just a one week optimal recovery time. UM,
Speaker 1: he's about to be back at a low injury risk
Speaker 1: as well, So definitely worth keeping an eye on him
Speaker 1: over the next week or two when he does return.
Speaker 1: But so far, it looks like he's going to be Okay.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Yes, it is, and I think we're
Speaker 1: about to break new ground. Greg. I don't know that
Speaker 1: we've ever asked about an offensive lineman here Fantasy Sports
Speaker 1: Network with inside injuries, but I think a very very
Speaker 1: interesting case here, someone who is very important to his team, uh,
Speaker 1: what we consider an elite offensive line. I've talked about
Speaker 1: my love for Marshaw Lynches here. I think he's an
Speaker 1: underrated fantasy asset, but he does need that offensive line
Speaker 1: to be whole in front of him. And one of
Speaker 1: those cogs there is offensive tackle Donald Penn, who is
Speaker 1: recovering from Liz Frank's surgery that he had back in December. Now,
Speaker 1: mind you, Donald Penn, being a bigger guy, needs his
Speaker 1: feet to be completely healthy in order to play this season.
Speaker 1: He's on active pup list to start the training to
Speaker 1: start training camp. How worried tould we be about his
Speaker 1: availability for the start of the season because we need
Speaker 1: that Raider's offensive line to behold Virginia. Yeah, so he's
Speaker 1: recovering from a Liz Frank tear, which is pretty serious,
Speaker 1: but he has hit his healthy to return date. Um,
Speaker 1: we're actually showing he's already back at a low injury risk. Um.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be ready to go week one,
Speaker 1: but don't be surprised if he misses a few practices
Speaker 1: throughout the year, deals with some soreness at some point,
Speaker 1: maybe even another mild lower body strain like an issue
Speaker 1: with his calf um. But so far it's looking like
Speaker 1: he should be okay as long as they continue to
Speaker 1: bring him back slowly. Let's go Greggy. We need a
Speaker 1: healthy Raiders offensive line for Jon Gruden and the Boys.
Speaker 1: One more football question I have for you, Virginia and
Speaker 1: as Kevin White. We want to ask you guys about
Speaker 1: him for a little while now because this is probably
Speaker 1: his last shot. He was taken in the early part
Speaker 1: of the first round. He's never been healthy. I read
Speaker 1: previously this offseason that Kevin White was the sorry the
Speaker 1: coaches in Chicago were showing him tape of West Virginia.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, listen, dude, this is what you were
Speaker 1: Let's get back to this. We know he has some
Speaker 1: some motivational issues. What's going on with him physically, so
Speaker 1: I was very surprised when I saw this, But he
Speaker 1: just passed back into the low injury risk at eleven percent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think mainly because scapular fracture. He's had a year
Speaker 1: now that should be fully healed. It should not be
Speaker 1: an issue anymore. Um, of course he had that stress
Speaker 1: fracture to a shin and the fibular fracture, but UM
Speaker 1: really hoping he's good to go. Our numbers look pretty
Speaker 1: promising on him that it's very surprising. Kevin White. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you get in now. I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get maybe in the best ball like one of
Speaker 1: your last round picks. We don't know. Is he gonna
Speaker 1: start on the outside? Is that going to be Taylor
Speaker 1: Gabriel as the deep threat for the Bears? They already
Speaker 1: have Alan Robinson. They drafted Anthony Miller, who we expect
Speaker 1: to be in the slot. Maybe there's a chance he
Speaker 1: can win that starting outside wide your job. But regardless,
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be too many mouths to feed
Speaker 1: up the Bears, and this guy has just been injured
Speaker 1: year in and year out. It's an encouraging sign of
Speaker 1: the report that we're getting from Virginia, but I just
Speaker 1: don't know how fantasy relevant he still could be the season. Okay,
Speaker 1: fair enough, What will you do the next question? Oh?
Speaker 1: You want me? You want me to jump in on
Speaker 1: the baseball action, which we obviously both have ties to. Yes,
Speaker 1: there's a fantasy football show, but look it's Yankees Red
Speaker 1: Sox are starting a four game series tonight, and Virginia,
Speaker 1: we wanted to ask you about our guy, Aaron Judge,
Speaker 1: who actually suffered a fractured wrist. Was it fractured hands
Speaker 1: something in that visne he got hit by a pitch
Speaker 1: and broke a bone. They said he can't take swings
Speaker 1: for three weeks. Now that happened a week ago today,
Speaker 1: I believe, um. So he can't take swings for two weeks.
Speaker 1: That means he probably won't be back for like another
Speaker 1: three or four correct. Yea, So it was a chip
Speaker 1: fracture to his right wrist. Um. This isn't as serious
Speaker 1: as most other kinds of fractures, but we are still
Speaker 1: showing a seven week optimal recovery times all week kill um. Now,
Speaker 1: at this point, he's expected to shut down all baseball
Speaker 1: activities for three weeks, even though he's already said he's
Speaker 1: paid free, which is a good sign. UM. But if
Speaker 1: he's shutting down all baseball activities for three weeks, they
Speaker 1: gotta think it's going to be at least another week
Speaker 1: after that before he returns, and it's unlikely his power
Speaker 1: is back to normal for at least a couple of months.
Speaker 1: What is not what we wanted to God? Damn? What
Speaker 1: seven weeks? He's told me three seven weeks and his
Speaker 1: power is not gonna be back for a couple of months.
Speaker 1: There's not that much time left in the season, Virginia. Sorry, guys,
Speaker 1: next you're gonna tell me that foot, hand and mouth
Speaker 1: diseasy to keep Jay half out for months? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: sure hope not. I'm actually surprised to even landed on
Speaker 1: the d L, to be honest. So he should be
Speaker 1: back soon, just just one missing one start hopefully. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw that, Greg, it was while
Speaker 1: you were away taking care of business. Actually plays Jay
Speaker 1: hap on the d L. I did see that. Lili
Speaker 1: Sessa will start on Saturday for the New York Yankee
Speaker 1: gets the Red Sox. What can go wrong, Virginia? What
Speaker 1: is fanfoot mouth disease? So it's a childhood virus typically
Speaker 1: you don't see in an adults. Um. But it shouldn't
Speaker 1: take more than, you know, really a week for him
Speaker 1: to recover from. Usually you get like a fever. Um.
Speaker 1: You don't feel great for a little while, but nothing
Speaker 1: too serious. We'll be fine just because it is Yankees
Speaker 1: Red Sox this weekend, and you know we we have
Speaker 1: a stake in that. Let me ask this on Red
Speaker 1: Sox picture Chris sal Hether disabled lists with shoulder inflammation
Speaker 1: and all Red Sox bands went absolutely wild. The Red
Speaker 1: Sox then corrected their reports, saying it's mild inflammation. Trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, make everybody calmer. How serious is this shoulder
Speaker 1: inflammation with Chris sal Well? You never want to see, um,
Speaker 1: you know, your ace land on the deal with any
Speaker 1: sort of an issue with their throwing arm. Um, this
Speaker 1: one does seem pretty mild. We're showing a three week
Speaker 1: optimal recovery time. One of the reasons is because this
Speaker 1: is something he supposedly has been dealing with over the
Speaker 1: last few weeks um, which again is a huge surprise
Speaker 1: considering how well he's been pitching. But if he shuts
Speaker 1: things down for a few weeks and slowly starts to
Speaker 1: throw again, by the end of August, he should be
Speaker 1: back to normal and this won't really be a long
Speaker 1: term concern. Not not like he'll lose his fastball for
Speaker 1: seven weeks, nothing, nothing like that. Let's hope not uh disagree,
Speaker 1: but that's fine. I'm getting the hunt set. Virginia just
Speaker 1: hates the Yankees. I kind of feel as Judge not
Speaker 1: gonna get his power back for months. Christale, Yeah, it'll
Speaker 1: be fine for the postseason. Don't worry about it. Definitely
Speaker 1: not her team. That's fair, fair enough, Virginia Zogas. We
Speaker 1: always appreciate the time. Thank you so much for stopping by.
Speaker 1: Let's do it again soon. Yeah, thank you all. Good one.
Speaker 1: There you go, Virginia Zogas. Often to find people at
Speaker 1: inside injuries. Um, all right, so judge and is not good?
Speaker 1: Foot stuff was good though. Yeah. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've got any of the other news that came out, Greg,
Speaker 1: that Eric Decker signing with the Patriots, Like I unders
Speaker 1: that how many wider how many white wide receivers can
Speaker 1: you have in your team? And then Brandon Lafeat cut
Speaker 1: by the Bengals. May he'll go back to Patriots too?
Speaker 1: Or is that Brandon Lloyd that was on the Patriots?
Speaker 1: Its Brandon Lloyd was both at different stints in times
Speaker 1: different times. Yeah, So they signed Eric Decker before Brandon
Speaker 1: fog a cut, So that doesn't seem very like unless
Speaker 1: they pull a Ryan Grant. Yeah, oh sorry, Eric, that
Speaker 1: you didn't pass your physical. That's sober over here, that's Sobert,
Speaker 1: that's so berrittle? Does that he the Eric Decker signing?
Speaker 1: Does that take anyther shine off Chris Hogan for you
Speaker 1: absolutely not. Okay, Yeah, I'm just getting more and more
Speaker 1: excited about Chris Hogan. I just I don't want and
Speaker 1: I feel like it's happening like everyone's starting to push
Speaker 1: him up as well, as long as I can continue
Speaker 1: getting him in the fifth round. If he starts to
Speaker 1: go push into like that fourth round rage, I'm out.
Speaker 1: But fifth round, I'm okay with it. Hey. Um, by
Speaker 1: the way, I have you a minute or so to
Speaker 1: the break. Hold in another last night? How about that?
Speaker 1: How about that Holy Calhoun red hot man? The color
Speaker 1: of his hair? What's that? He's like oranges? I say
Speaker 1: he's hotter than the color of his hair? Really? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like fires orange red? The same color as Colcohun's here.
Speaker 1: Do you think so? I thought it was more blond. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I thought it was more blondish. It does.
Speaker 1: It's not like Frasier red, is it. It's not Clint
Speaker 1: Frasier red, dude. This is pretty red, dude. That that's red?
Speaker 1: Like that doesn't look that red. It's all about the picture, man,
Speaker 1: this picture. Yeah, all right, So there's your cold update.
Speaker 1: When we get back from the break, I want to
Speaker 1: get into this Vandul stuff because it is Monster News.
Speaker 1: I think we need to kind of break it down
Speaker 1: for you. Um we also I want to start getting
Speaker 1: into some of the players we haven't talked about enough.
Speaker 1: It's gonna carry over tomorrow as well. Frankie. Um oh man,
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna do it because we have
Speaker 1: gonna do lamorrow. It's time to do. We have a
Speaker 1: really fun show plat for you tomorrow. Fresh We want
Speaker 1: to do it for days, but I'm holding them off.
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Speaker 1: and guys. Vanduel has made a massive, massive change to
Speaker 1: their fantasy daily Fantasy Football game, and we gotta break
Speaker 1: it down because it's that big of a deal to me. Um,
Speaker 1: you play daily fantasy football. I know that, Frank, you're
Speaker 1: into it, and I've always been honestly partial Fandel. I
Speaker 1: think it's cleaner than draftings, honestly, But what do they
Speaker 1: like about Fandel? It was every kicker like I have,
Speaker 1: I have joined Jake Selee's movement. Originally I was like, listen,
Speaker 1: kickers part of the game, they score points. Why wouldn't
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you have a kicker in it? But the
Speaker 1: more people talking about it's it's simply arbitrary. Having a
Speaker 1: kicker is an arbitrary for the most part, player that
Speaker 1: there isn't much control over, Like you can't predict an
Speaker 1: offense essentially stalling as much as it does. You can't
Speaker 1: you can predict weather, no doubt, but you cannot predict
Speaker 1: kicker as well as you can predict other positions. You
Speaker 1: look at all of um the formula, those all of
Speaker 1: the math, all of the systems that people use to
Speaker 1: properly predict lineups, none of those amouth kickers because it
Speaker 1: is more random than anything else. DFS has always been
Speaker 1: a game of skill, and a lot of fantasy experts
Speaker 1: have say the best way to test skill is to
Speaker 1: add more positions. When you add more positions, it makes
Speaker 1: it challenging and it takes the luck out of even more.
Speaker 1: And that is what Fandel has done. As of today,
Speaker 1: Vandal has decided that they are getting rid of the
Speaker 1: kicker and adding a flex, so their lineup will be
Speaker 1: one quarterback to running backs, three wide receivers, a tight end,
Speaker 1: a flex, and a defense. This is basically, very very
Speaker 1: similar to your standard UH season long fantasy lineups for
Speaker 1: three wide receivers, a tight end, and a flex with
Speaker 1: two running backs. They are not changing the salaries. It's
Speaker 1: still sixty grand, so about six sixties six, six thousand
Speaker 1: and sixty six dollars UH per player, So you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to manage the money better. Now, A whole lot
Speaker 1: going on, Fandel, massive change, and I agree with what
Speaker 1: you said about kickers, Gregg. Look what we do is
Speaker 1: we try our best using the knowledge that we have
Speaker 1: the knowledge from others statistical advantages to project and really
Speaker 1: predict the future. And that it's hard enough to do
Speaker 1: with offensive players quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers, tight ends,
Speaker 1: and then taking the whole defense. It's hard enough to
Speaker 1: project it for that, but then to also throw a
Speaker 1: kicker in the mix. Like you said, it's just impossible
Speaker 1: to predict even the best teams. You know, if they
Speaker 1: score a bunch of touchdowns, yeah, that's fine and all
Speaker 1: you're only gonna get extra points for it. It's really
Speaker 1: hard to predict when teams are going to stall in
Speaker 1: the red zone which will allow them to get field goals,
Speaker 1: and then not only that, right outside the red zones
Speaker 1: so that you get fifty yard field goals so you
Speaker 1: can get even more fantasy points. So I think this
Speaker 1: is a great job by Fandel. I love the roster
Speaker 1: construction that they have there. It's really your standard Q
Speaker 1: be two UH running backs, three wide receivers. You have
Speaker 1: the flex, the tight end UH, and the defense, which
Speaker 1: is you know what we've been doing for you know,
Speaker 1: the Hood Draft series, the Whiteboard series. This is the
Speaker 1: standard nowadays for what your fantasy lineup looks like. I
Speaker 1: love the fact that it's half point PPR. So I
Speaker 1: think this is a great move by FanDuel. I think
Speaker 1: they're doing the right thing, moving in the right direction,
Speaker 1: getting rid of the kicker. Hashtag band kickers actually would
Speaker 1: be so happy. Yeah, FanDuel has gotten in on the movement,
Speaker 1: and in their promotional video that they put out when
Speaker 1: they ultimately made this decision, they took all of the
Speaker 1: Twitter comments of w TF why do we have a kicker?
Speaker 1: Or replace the kicker? We want an extra flex, get
Speaker 1: rid of the kicker, and they can bind all that
Speaker 1: and they're giving the people what they want. Like I
Speaker 1: respect and all. Honestly, somebody just going out and giving
Speaker 1: the people what they want. If you guys want to
Speaker 1: do is back welling back. That's what the people want,
Speaker 1: right Frank, If that's what they want, will put a
Speaker 1: pole out, will ask people what they want. Can you
Speaker 1: include that in? I will include do do too. If
Speaker 1: you want to do do back, vote on the poll
Speaker 1: and we will bring it back. But just to continue
Speaker 1: on the kicker, conversation. But you have to remember people
Speaker 1: are playing for a lot of money here, a lot
Speaker 1: of money on the line. And yes, it is a
Speaker 1: game of skill, because we've seen a year in, year
Speaker 1: out some of the top players who continue to win.
Speaker 1: It's skill based, Like they know what they're doing year
Speaker 1: in and year out. The one thing they don't know.
Speaker 1: So with that much money being involved in this game
Speaker 1: of skill, I have no problem taking the kicker out
Speaker 1: of the game. How is it going to change how
Speaker 1: you set your line up now? Because, as as I
Speaker 1: kind of said before, for me, all right, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put in the essentially the cheapest kicker and the cheapest
Speaker 1: defense that I could find that's still reasonable, right, Like
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pick the Browns against the Patriots or
Speaker 1: anything like that. I'm not gonna take the Browns kicker,
Speaker 1: but anything that's semi reasonable for a kicker in a
Speaker 1: dome that's cheap, I'm gonna do it, and then save
Speaker 1: as much money as possible. That's no longer an option.
Speaker 1: So really the only place that you can save every
Speaker 1: week now is the defense. That's going to change quite
Speaker 1: a bit. Yeah, I think what it's gonna do is
Speaker 1: it's gonna force people to be even more creative than
Speaker 1: before because the way to save salary is to you though,
Speaker 1: use those chalk type players who are all right, this guy,
Speaker 1: let's say Avian Kamara is out this week, we want
Speaker 1: to play you know, whoever is going to start in
Speaker 1: his place. That's going to be the talk play at
Speaker 1: running back. But you know, if you play in tournament formats,
Speaker 1: not everybody can have the same talk play. You gotta
Speaker 1: find ways to be creative. So I think it is
Speaker 1: going to force players to be a little bit more
Speaker 1: creative here. Maybe we see, you know, more usage of
Speaker 1: chalk players because people need to free up some more salary.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're not paying up for quarterback as much. I
Speaker 1: think it. Ultimately, what it's gonna do, Greg is just
Speaker 1: force people to be more creative and try and come
Speaker 1: up with more, you know, unique combinations that other people
Speaker 1: aren't looking into. Okay, so there you go. For more information,
Speaker 1: you can certainly watch our network. We're gonna have a
Speaker 1: whole lot more coverage on this fan duel getting rid
Speaker 1: of their kicker in order to give you an extra flex,
Speaker 1: giving the people what they want, more positions, more fun,
Speaker 1: more strategy, more winning. There you go, Frank, I want
Speaker 1: to get into some of these players you may put
Speaker 1: in your fan duel lineup, some of these guys that
Speaker 1: you may want to draft on your season long teams,
Speaker 1: and some of the players that well, not enough people
Speaker 1: are talking about. And that is going to lead me
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia, where in the running game you've heard a
Speaker 1: lot about Corey Clement. People are very very Highland. People
Speaker 1: are very high on Darren Sprowle's returning, and nobody's high
Speaker 1: on JGI. This year. Nobody likes JGI, nobody wants j Hi.
Speaker 1: This is a dude. There was a second round pick
Speaker 1: last year traded for Miami to Philly, got there and
Speaker 1: I thought, did his job? Where is JGI going right now?
Speaker 1: He's consistently going in the late fourth round, mid to
Speaker 1: late fourth round. What am I missing? Um? I think
Speaker 1: the fact that Doug Peterson is the coach for the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. He's always really run a system where he
Speaker 1: uses multiple running backs. And that's why you know everything
Speaker 1: that I've said about the Eagles running game. Is I
Speaker 1: am not drafting Jgi? He what if we do a
Speaker 1: show during the preseason here, do not draft list j
Speaker 1: J I will lead that list for me, just because
Speaker 1: Dog Peterson employees a media approach where he used multiple
Speaker 1: running backs. Corey Clement is going to be in the
Speaker 1: mix there. They brought Darren Sprowls back for a reason.
Speaker 1: He's gonna catch passes out of the backfield. You know,
Speaker 1: just look at what he's done year in and year out.
Speaker 1: Ryan Matthews, Okay, he scored a couple of touchdowns when
Speaker 1: he was around. He was the goal line back, but
Speaker 1: he would have someone that he would use. Between the twenties.
Speaker 1: You would randomly get guys like Wendell Small would come
Speaker 1: in for a goal line carry. You would get Kenyan
Speaker 1: Barner come in for random goal line carry, and it
Speaker 1: would be incredibly frustrating. I don't want to forget that
Speaker 1: this time of year. I feel like last season we
Speaker 1: were continuously trying to remind ourselves next year, do not
Speaker 1: draft the Eagles running backs well, do not draft the
Speaker 1: Eagle running back that is going the highest and especially
Speaker 1: right now, j Ji in the fourth round like one
Speaker 1: was going in the seventh, eighth, ninth round last year.
Speaker 1: You have to pay fourth round price tag for j
Speaker 1: j I. I'd rather take a shot on you know,
Speaker 1: the Corey Clement going in the double digit rounds. The
Speaker 1: Darren Sprowls was going RB seventy one off the board
Speaker 1: right now according to Fantasy pros. Maybe he doesn't have
Speaker 1: a huge workload, but in a PPR league as a
Speaker 1: by replacement, Aaron Sprowl strikes me as a guy who's
Speaker 1: probably being forgotten about right now. So I so where
Speaker 1: I think is. I think J J I is also
Speaker 1: being forgotten about. To be profectly honest with you, because
Speaker 1: he's going in the late fourth round. I get what
Speaker 1: you're saying that it's Doug Peterson, that there's always so
Speaker 1: many running backs there that you can't trust any of them.
Speaker 1: But I don't think any of the running backs that
Speaker 1: have been in Philadelphia or are quite simply as good
Speaker 1: as J G I. He came over the middle of
Speaker 1: the year last year. You can't, I don't think expect
Speaker 1: to him to go off when he's just coming over
Speaker 1: to a new system, a new coach, the whole deal.
Speaker 1: So I I think that when you put a guy
Speaker 1: in this town, and I know we always talking about
Speaker 1: the bone on bone condition in his knee, and that's fair,
Speaker 1: but I'm not asking you to take him in a
Speaker 1: dynasty league or a keeper league or anything like that.
Speaker 1: I think that what you need to do is just
Speaker 1: have him for one season, and I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: be the guy who gets touchdowns this year. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be the guy that's in there. I'm certainly first and
Speaker 1: second down, maybe third downs, a ton of Darren sprawls,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna going to hurry up. You'll see more
Speaker 1: Corey Clement. That's gonna give you the mix. But I
Speaker 1: think j j. I just been a little bit underdrafted here.
Speaker 1: That's fair. I mean, you could have him in every
Speaker 1: draft that we're in together that we're not sharing a
Speaker 1: teams together. You can have I don't know any of this.
Speaker 1: You could have j j I on the teams that
Speaker 1: we are sharing. I guarantee you he will not be
Speaker 1: on any of them. I just think will Darren sproles
Speaker 1: as a late round, like one of your last picks
Speaker 1: in a full point PPR, I have no problem with it.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's there's not much downside, there's not
Speaker 1: much upside. He's gonna give you. You know, he's gonna
Speaker 1: give you a high floor, but never has a huge ceiling.
Speaker 1: Either he's just like a PPR by We replacement. In
Speaker 1: my opinion, I'd rather take a shot on Ronald Jones,
Speaker 1: maybe even a Kenyan Drake Roy Freeman. I'll wait around
Speaker 1: and take him, wait re rounds and take a Marshawn Lynch.
Speaker 1: Greg I just I don't like Jake is actually retweeting
Speaker 1: out that's Arrell Davis going off about Roy Spreeman, and
Speaker 1: everyone is starting to notice how good this dude is.
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. Vante Park Devontae Booker is not, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, a starting caliber running back. They've tried that before.
Speaker 1: He has not had much success in the NFL. Maybe
Speaker 1: he can be a a third down replacement, a good
Speaker 1: pass catch right of the backfield. But people don't realize
Speaker 1: this about Roy Freeman. He actually called the ball at
Speaker 1: college too in Oregon. He was a great pass catcher
Speaker 1: and a great actually legit running back, running between the tackles,
Speaker 1: bouncing to the outside. I think he could do everything.
Speaker 1: The more people start to realize that he's another guy
Speaker 1: who's gonna start to get pushed up into the fourth rone,
Speaker 1: I think so too. He's kind of in that Ronald
Speaker 1: Jones territory. Yeah, so you will put another name on
Speaker 1: here that you have talked about in the past, but
Speaker 1: I kind of haven't really bought in, and I was
Speaker 1: wondering if you could be able to sell me. And
Speaker 1: that's Kelvin Benjamin, who you know is going off the
Speaker 1: board right now at wide receiver, which means he's basically
Speaker 1: a wide receiver five. So he's not costing you all
Speaker 1: that much. Of course, Kelvin Benjamin, the longtime Carolina Panther,
Speaker 1: came over to Buffalo midway through the year. People don't
Speaker 1: like Calvin Benjamin because they remember him number one being
Speaker 1: out of shape, number two having a major major knee
Speaker 1: surgery and then coming back and just having perennial knee soreness.
Speaker 1: Number three, Well, who the hell is the quarterback in fellow?
Speaker 1: Bufo is not a sexy offense, not a sexy team.
Speaker 1: Nobody really wants anything to do with Buffalo, especially given
Speaker 1: what's going on with a Shawn McCoy. But well, I
Speaker 1: understand all of that. I think we just swung a
Speaker 1: little bit too far the other way when it comes
Speaker 1: to Calvin measurement. Yeah, guy who's going outside the top
Speaker 1: forty at the wide receiver position. Right now, and what
Speaker 1: you said about the quarterback position, we don't know who
Speaker 1: it's gonna be, mccaren, Josh Allen. But this is purely
Speaker 1: a volume play in my opinion, Greg, I think if
Speaker 1: he's healthy, he's gonna see at least a hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty targets, and at the floor, in my opinion, he
Speaker 1: could be anywhere. He could be a hundred forty, a
Speaker 1: hundred fifty targets. Last year, the lowest player with at
Speaker 1: least a hundred and twenty targets was Dez Bryant, who
Speaker 1: finished wide receiver twenty four right had a hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty two targets. So if you're telling me that this
Speaker 1: guy has top thirty upside and he's being drafted outside
Speaker 1: the basically numbers, just makes sense to me. I think.
Speaker 1: I know it might not look sexy, but even if
Speaker 1: it's just a bye week replacement, you're getting him as
Speaker 1: your wide receiver four or five most of the time anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So again, I'm not super Ino Calvin management. It doesn't
Speaker 1: sound like you are either. It's just it's just gone
Speaker 1: too far, that's all it is. It's a value play,
Speaker 1: It's it's an opportunity. It's a volume play here. For
Speaker 1: even Mike Florio was here, you would tell you that
Speaker 1: the the Bill's quarterbacks are gonna suck. What they might
Speaker 1: be in some shootouts, some games that they're trailing and
Speaker 1: when they had to throw the ball. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of that is gonna go to Calvin Benjamin. What
Speaker 1: if we said for years Tyrod Taylor never had any weapons,
Speaker 1: it's Charles Clay. He's gonna get banged up. At that point,
Speaker 1: they have, say Jones, what is he gonna do? Think
Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy might catch a couple of passes out of
Speaker 1: the backfield. If he's around, it's gonna be Calvin Benjamin.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be the guy there. Is he healthy? Probably
Speaker 1: should ask that he was? He was mostly healthy last year.
Speaker 1: I feel I think he had some some I think
Speaker 1: he was just banged up. I remember we thought he
Speaker 1: was gonna be out for the season at one point.
Speaker 1: Then he just was back. Let's let's remember this nast
Speaker 1: next week or I'll ask her next week. You won't
Speaker 1: be here, I'll be watching. Maybe I'll try you. We
Speaker 1: have five minutes ago, and I wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: we got this in today you told me late yesterday
Speaker 1: or this morning. Greg, I'm talking to myself and a
Speaker 1: Jordan Read. I'm like, dude, what are you doing? Why
Speaker 1: are you doing this? And you explained all the reasons
Speaker 1: why anyone would be you know, on on Jordan Read. Number one,
Speaker 1: he's really good. Number two Alex Smith always relies on
Speaker 1: his tight end. Number three j Green and makes the
Speaker 1: tight ending massive part of his offense. Obviously, what you,
Speaker 1: of course failed to mention is that this dude has
Speaker 1: seventeen concussions in his past. He has a toe that's
Speaker 1: permanently broken, and at some point he goes only to
Speaker 1: probably hurt his shoulder because he han't done that yet.
Speaker 1: Why are you gonna pay anything for Jordan Read? The
Speaker 1: thing is you don't have to pay much, Greg. He's
Speaker 1: going to pick eight six right now. He's the knife
Speaker 1: tight end off the board. I've seen him go later
Speaker 1: than that, see him go around the one hundred range
Speaker 1: in some of my drafts. I just think it's going
Speaker 1: a little bit too far. Same thing as Calvin Benjamin
Speaker 1: last year. Jordan Reed was going you know, fourth, fifth round.
Speaker 1: Now you're getting him in that maybe seventh, eighth, ninth
Speaker 1: round range for Jordan Reed, and really, honestly, Scott Barrett
Speaker 1: of Pro Football Focus, I read an article about him
Speaker 1: and he said, the the tight end position is you
Speaker 1: draft Jordan Read in whatever it is, the seventh eighth round,
Speaker 1: you draft Vernon Davis with your last pick. Any time
Speaker 1: that the read. After Frank read that line by Scott Barrett,
Speaker 1: he immediately emailed him and try to get him on
Speaker 1: the show. I did. We'll try and figure it out.
Speaker 1: I did get a response. I'll talk to you about
Speaker 1: it off the air. But I think any time to
Speaker 1: Jordan Read misses, Burnon Davis will step in and maybe
Speaker 1: he won't play to the caliber that Jordan Reid does,
Speaker 1: but those two are going to be able to combine
Speaker 1: whatever Jordan Reed isn't healthy or a top twelve, probably
Speaker 1: top ten tight end this season. And I truly believe that.
Speaker 1: So you're okay, I don't want to say wasting, like
Speaker 1: you're essentially using two spots for one guy. I understand, like,
Speaker 1: but it's like your seventh and your sixteenth. Correct, But
Speaker 1: Jake talks about that Greg Jennings theory, like you want
Speaker 1: to use your bench for for youth and for guys
Speaker 1: that could absolutely explode. When you own Jordan Read, you
Speaker 1: have to hold onto Bernie Davis what you're saying, or
Speaker 1: a tight end like Burnon Davis right, you have to
Speaker 1: hold on to a second tight end. A lot of
Speaker 1: teams won't do that, Like a lot of teams will
Speaker 1: just he one tight end maybe two of their platooning.
Speaker 1: But like you're forcing yourself in a locking a bench
Speaker 1: spot and that scares me. I I get what you're saying,
Speaker 1: but at the tight end position where it's so hard
Speaker 1: to come across production. If there's a lot of guys
Speaker 1: out there this year, I I don't know. Like he's
Speaker 1: going in a similar ranges Kyle Rolph Treyburn, I'll take
Speaker 1: those guys ahead of Jordan Read. So the one you
Speaker 1: never when you never draft Read, then no. But there
Speaker 1: are times where what if I miss out on one
Speaker 1: of those guys, If I try to chance it and
Speaker 1: wait till the eighth round, right, and then trey Burn
Speaker 1: doesn't make it back to you, the next man up
Speaker 1: for me is Jordan Read, and I wouldn't have a
Speaker 1: problem doing it, that's right. I think I think it's
Speaker 1: the eighth round and Kyl Rudolph goes for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: Trey Burton, your boy goes off the word for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: If Jordan Read is the top tight end and he's
Speaker 1: staring at you, you're gonna go in a different direction.
Speaker 1: That's not true. I'll do it, prove it. I'll do
Speaker 1: it in the draft today. What do you want me
Speaker 1: to do? Like I'm telling you, I'll do it. What
Speaker 1: I say I'm gonna do is what I do. Have
Speaker 1: you done? Have you picked him in any of your
Speaker 1: Whiteboard series yet? I have not? He has according to a
Speaker 1: a DP, you can get Trey Burton in the eighth
Speaker 1: round of every draft. Uh So the Whiteboard series and
Speaker 1: one of them, what pick? What pick is up next?
Speaker 1: I think pick two or three, I commented back on
Speaker 1: someone who was asking on one of the posts. I'll
Speaker 1: check it out. It's either two or three, So that'll
Speaker 1: be out later today. Frank is humming through these. We
Speaker 1: have one to coming today, at least one coming tomorrow
Speaker 1: as well. We're making our way through the top twelve
Speaker 1: the white Boards series. He's absolutely fantastic. No matter what
Speaker 1: pick you have in the draft, you gotta check out
Speaker 1: Frank series as he goes through the first eight rounds
Speaker 1: of your fantasy draft, which fills out your starting line up. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's no one better at kind of speculating who's gonna
Speaker 1: be there and then putting the pieces together. Frank's trying
Speaker 1: to make your life much easier. Yeah, and Corey had
Speaker 1: me on the Fantasy Football Frenzy for a segment today.
Speaker 1: We were talking roster construction. He wanted me up here
Speaker 1: because I've been doing the series and he said that
Speaker 1: he has picks two, three, four in pretty much all
Speaker 1: of the drafts he's done so far. So we were
Speaker 1: talking about roster construction really diversifying your team. So person
Speaker 1: that let the comment Corey was that was that the
Speaker 1: guy who I don't know, but we were talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, whether or not if you haven't early picked,
Speaker 1: do you diversify it to the point where you pass
Speaker 1: on a workhorse to take Antonio Brown? Which running backs
Speaker 1: are available in round two and three? You It was
Speaker 1: a pretty good discussion. Check out the Frenzy and check
Speaker 1: out the Frankie's Whiteboards series. We'll wait back tomorrow. The
Speaker 1: goal is to duel with some a DPS. We also
Speaker 1: have a bunch of un named player that we want
Speaker 1: to talk about, so that'll be fun for Frank Staffe.
Speaker 1: I am Grex Sausman. I want to thank Virginia Zakis
Speaker 1: and Jake Selee for joining us. We're gonna do it
Speaker 1: all again tomorrow, we hope,