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Speaker 1: Here we go. It is a Tuesday Herd hierarchy. Im

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Speaker 1: in it away live in Chicago, which is not far

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Speaker 1: from Green Bay. What a mess that was last night?

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Speaker 1: Zero zero at half. Greg Olsen hour from now, Nick Wright,

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Speaker 1: five minutes from now. You know, Jay mackints like I'm

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Speaker 1: a good luck charm for those Bears. That offense is

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Speaker 1: humming green Bay last night. Green Bay is just lost.

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Speaker 1: They don't know what they are. They can't run the ball.

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Speaker 1: Laflora loves to run the ball. I mean, first half

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Speaker 1: had six completions. So Matt Lafleur what he wants to do,

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Speaker 1: his team's incapable of doing. And so it's a weird.

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Speaker 1: There's no rhythm the green Bays offense to me at all.

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Speaker 3: Well, the wide receiver room is real. Beat up.

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Speaker 4: Matthew Golden missed and then they were playing a converted

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Speaker 4: cornerback bo Melton at wide receiver. Did you see that

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Speaker 4: drop he had on fourth down? Why are you targeting

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Speaker 4: a quarterback on fourth down?

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Speaker 5: And nine?

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Speaker 3: I was perplexed by the offense.

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Speaker 1: All right, it is time. What to do with the

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Speaker 1: Let's hit it hurt hierarchy.

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Speaker 2: Heard hierarchy. Now go the top ten NFL teams according

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Speaker 2: to College Number.

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Speaker 1: Ten, Indianapolis has the number one scoring offense, Number one

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Speaker 1: in yards per play, number one in total offense. They've

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Speaker 1: scored thirty plus points in five or six games. Do

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Speaker 1: they have a ceiling with Daniel Jones? Yep, he's become

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Speaker 1: I mean Daniel Jones again. A lot of giveaways. But

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Speaker 1: here's a remarkable number on Jonathan Taylor. He has over

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Speaker 1: eight hundred yards after contact after he's been hit. So

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Speaker 1: this offense is the real deal. It's got a ceiling.

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Speaker 1: But I put Indy they gotta be in here. I

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Speaker 1: put him at ten, number nine, justin Herbert unbelievable. The

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Speaker 1: Chargers have the worst pass blocking line I think I've

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Speaker 1: On third down. How they're on a number three running back.

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Speaker 1: How the fact that they're six and one against the AFC,

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Speaker 1: And the pass blocking line is egregiously bad. Justin Herbert's

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Speaker 1: been hit pressured one hundred and thirteen times, second place

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Speaker 1: twenty four fewer times. Herbert and Harbaugh deserve to be

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Speaker 1: in here. Nine, number eight Lions. Listen, they win. They

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Speaker 1: haven't lost back to back game since like twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: longest streak in the league. So and say what you want.

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff seventy plus completion percentage in eight straight road games.

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Speaker 1: good to me. They've got multiple guys with eight plus touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: trust Dan Campbell situationally in big spots? I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I do. He took over play calling duties this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Not great. Detroit at eight, number seven Ravens don't care

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Speaker 1: about their record. These aren't standings. Basically, they averaged thirty

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Speaker 1: a playoff team. They're gonna win this division. I think

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Speaker 2: Number six the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: You can't keep winning this way, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna bea Kansas City this weekend. They're one of

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Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips at the trade deadline for a third down pick,

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Speaker 1: two the Seahawks best point differential in the NFC. Sam

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Speaker 1: this def It reminds me of Kansas City's defense about

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Speaker 1: Everybody runs, the safeties, the linebackers, the edge rushers, everybody

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Speaker 1: at two, number one, but the Rams are a more

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Speaker 1: don't get the turnovers. Once again, PFF rates and is

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Speaker 1: Kansas City does, Buffalo does, Baltimore does. I do think

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Speaker 5: With that.

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Speaker 1: Nick Wright, first things first, he usually has everybody wants

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Speaker 1: me to put Buffalo in. I can't. I'm watching the games.

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Speaker 1: I cannot put them in. I'm sorry. They're not a

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Speaker 6: I'll admit I was a little surprised you didn't have

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Speaker 6: Buffalo in that would that would? I had three real takeaways.

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Speaker 6: So let's start with Buffalo first. Let's say the first

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Speaker 6: round of the playoffs is the two seed Indianapolis Colts,

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Speaker 6: yeah hosting, Yeah, the seven seed Buffalo Bills Colts. You're

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Speaker 6: really I think they're gonna You're gonna stare at Daniel

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Speaker 1: Okay, the Bills can't stop the run. The Colts are

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Speaker 5: Okay, listen, that's fair. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: That might actually be the smarter analysis. I just couldn't

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Speaker 6: did I look, did I pick Daniel Jones over Josh

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Speaker 6: Allen in a playoff game?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 5: Second question and then a compliment.

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Speaker 6: You you're not trotting out there. The look at bon

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Speaker 6: Nicks's numbers when trailing graphic too much anymore?

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Speaker 3: Are you?

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Speaker 5: Colin that guy's not good.

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Speaker 1: He's not good.

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Speaker 5: Bon Nicks is not good like the rest of the

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Speaker 5: team's really good. Bone Nicks. That's a problem. That's a big.

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Speaker 6: Problem in Denver, and that isn't like because the defense

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Speaker 6: That's a real concern for them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, young people need time to grow. I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of over it because he had sixty one college

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Speaker 1: I like bon Nicks, but Sean Payton's not sitting around.

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Speaker 1: He's not forty two years old, he's not McVeigh. And

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Speaker 1: the roster. You know this, You can't keep these guys

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Speaker 1: Guys have to get paid. Your windows are like eighteen

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Speaker 6: Yeah, my dream is a different one, which is the

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Speaker 6: Broncos get the wild card somehow. Upset someone in round

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Speaker 6: one of the playoffs, and Bonnicks has won a playoff game,

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Speaker 6: and that leads to him a year from now getting

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Speaker 6: that big second contract.

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Speaker 5: I would love the Broncos.

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Speaker 6: In the AFCUS to be tied to Bonnicks for the

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Speaker 4: But not.

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Speaker 5: Lea's a compliment.

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Speaker 6: At your own restraint at not putting Seattle number one

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Speaker 5: And I just have a question question for you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, how does it feel to have held the Sam

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Speaker 6: to as if in five years Bill has passed and

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Speaker 6: wearing your hat backwards is called illegal, punishable by six

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Speaker 6: months in jail. Like there is no greater victory lap

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Speaker 6: imaginable for you than the fact that Sam Donald might

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Speaker 6: and a big reason why Seattle's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what I've always done. I know what

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Speaker 1: I'm not good at, which is a lot, and so

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Speaker 1: I often rely on people who are smarter than me

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Speaker 1: in their opinion. And I always knew that Shanahan loved him.

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Speaker 1: I got I want Giants fired Dable just to the

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Speaker 5: Okay, Colin, listen, So I have a lot of thoughts here.

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Speaker 6: First of all, the simplest explanation is this, and this

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Speaker 6: That will get you fired. Four double digit fourth quarter

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Speaker 5: He deserved to be fired.

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Speaker 6: But can I paint a scenario for you, because who

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Speaker 1: I want to shift to NBA. Your buddy and my buddy,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brussard always uses this line, and it's so true.

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Speaker 1: In basketball, your game is your game. Your game is

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Speaker 1: That's not Lebron at forty one. Luca is now a

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Speaker 1: much better offensive player and probably in shape. Luca is

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Speaker 1: a better player. Austin Reeves has never played this good

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Speaker 5: This is crazy.

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Speaker 1: At forty was crazy ball stopper Lebron Colin.

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Speaker 6: He was sixth in MVP voting at forty last year,

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Speaker 5: That's what you're are, Like, I don't.

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Speaker 6: There is It is nothing but positive that the Lakers

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Speaker 6: All NBA sixth then MVP voting to say he's now

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Speaker 6: I think this is the week Game one Lebron didn't

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Speaker 1: I just suggested it needs to be considered that some

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Speaker 6: Luca was thirty four nine nine his last full year

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Speaker 5: A job like Austin Reeves.

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Speaker 6: I do think Austin Reeves getting more opportunity now you're

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Speaker 6: But I don't see a need to act like Lebron

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Speaker 1: I bet privately, Austin reeves. I just Austin, just know

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Speaker 6: they should just bench him, that they should be they

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Speaker 6: should take him to be their ninth man.

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Speaker 1: It's a takeless take.

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Speaker 6: My take, it's a takeless take, thank you. It's the

437
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Speaker 6: take that they are keeping Lebron on the team just

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Speaker 6: to appease Bronny since he's now become an important defensive

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Speaker 6: weapon off the bench.

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Speaker 1: My take in the take, my take is this efficiency

441
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Speaker 1: will regress with Lebron. They'll have a better athlete, but

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Speaker 1: their offense won't look like this because Lebron will take

443
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Speaker 1: He'll take touches from DeAndre, from Austin, from Luca, and

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Speaker 1: this is really a beautiful offense and it'll be different

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Speaker 1: with Lebron.

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Speaker 6: It'll just be a little It sounds it's like you're

447
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Speaker 6: flirting with the take. I'm not flirting, taking some that

448
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Speaker 6: taking some touches away from DeAndre Ayton and giving them

449
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Speaker 6: to Lebron James will make the Los Angeles Lakers worse.

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Speaker 6: It seems like that's what you're batting your eyelashes at,

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Speaker 6: and I think that's insane.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's all. I'm gonna let you save your

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Speaker 1: Nico Harrison stuff for your show because I know you

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Speaker 1: have strong Okay.

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Speaker 5: Thanks, that's very nice of you.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate that I did it. I did it earlier

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Speaker 6: on a podcast on the wonderful Volume podcast network, and

458
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Speaker 6: now I'll do it on First things First, I was

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Speaker 6: live on the air right when, right when the news broke,

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Speaker 6: so we had live late breakings.

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Speaker 5: I'll do it again on TV later. See you comp

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Speaker 5: all right, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not I'm not suggesting a trade. I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying it's this. This offense is beautiful to watch right now, beautiful,

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Speaker 1: and it won't be as beautiful because Lebron needs the ball.

466
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Speaker 1: He's not an off ball player. He's smart, he can adapt,

467
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Speaker 1: but he is what he is. Your game is your game,

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Jmack and Nick don't believe in

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Speaker 1: my take. They're just they're a little today. I get that,

470
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Speaker 1: so I'm a little saucy every day. How about this,

471
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Speaker 1: I did that hurt hierarchy. Is the Seahawks Rams potentially

472
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Speaker 1: the game of the year in the league?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, can we get it on the screen

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Speaker 4: real quick? I think it's not your best effort, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think Seattle Rams is probably the best game of

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Speaker 1: the year. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's that hot of a take.

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Speaker 1: You have it as once you Buffalo Kansas City was

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Speaker 1: until this week.

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Speaker 3: I mean, are we going a.

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Speaker 4: Little gaga for Seattle because they smashed Arizona and we're

482
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Speaker 4: up thirty five?

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Speaker 3: Nothing?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, we're going goggag because they are like

485
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Speaker 1: if you look at all their numbers, they're like number one.

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Speaker 1: Donold's the best quarterback in the league.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, A lot of it is against bad, bad teams.

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Speaker 4: I think they're a top five team.

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Speaker 1: But I always hear that. I always hear that, Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, who have you beaten? Well, folks, there are

491
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Speaker 1: no unbeaten teams. I mean the reality is you can say, well,

492
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Speaker 1: who have they been, Like Buffalo, who have they beat

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Speaker 1: They didn't beat Kansas City, So you can always use

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Speaker 1: the argument, well, who have they beaten? This league? There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of five hundred teams in this league. There's

496
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Speaker 1: a small bottom and a small top. But the league's

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Speaker 1: all a game or two in front or back of

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Speaker 1: five hundred. So you can say what you want about

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks, but they are like a weird turnover from

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Speaker 1: being eight and one. They had the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers beat they'd be a.

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Speaker 4: Quarterbacks here the quarterbacks Seattle has beaten this season.

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Speaker 3: They beat Aaron Rodgers. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't think Tyler Shuck was starting for the Saints.

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Speaker 4: That might have been Spencer Ratler. Then they beat Kyler Murray,

506
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Speaker 4: who has basically been soft benched. They beat Trevor Lawrence,

507
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 4: everybody does, c J. Stroud, Marcus Mariota, Jacoby Brissette. They

508
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Speaker 4: haven't beaten a top fifteen quarterback yet. Now they have

509
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Speaker 4: to face the MVP favorite. I don't know how people

510
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Speaker 4: aren't betting Rams hand over fist here. Colin, this is men,

511
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Speaker 4: women and children. Get the hell out of the way.

512
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Speaker 4: I've got to put my kids college to sit on

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Speaker 4: the Rams. I like Seattle a lot this year.

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Speaker 3: They've been great. This is a bit of a wake

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Speaker 3: up call.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you're stepping into the stepping into the top tier

517
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Speaker 4: of teams like again, they're not going to be used

518
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Speaker 4: to seeing an offense like this. They haven't played anybody good. Well,

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Speaker 4: that's certain, you'd like that take. Huh that really silence?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's oh, it's worth consideration. But I don't

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Speaker 1: think you get to seven and two and kind of

522
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: a weird turnover from eight to one. This team, Seattle

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Speaker 1: is better on the road and they're tucked up in

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Speaker 1: the Northwest.

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Speaker 3: They're good.

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Speaker 1: They could be in the end of New England and

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Speaker 1: Seattle are strangely both tucked up in the corner, long flights,

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Speaker 1: a lot of travel. They're better on the road. That

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Speaker 1: speaks to a lot. They're both young star quarterbacks, good coaches.

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Speaker 1: I think Seattle's pretty legit.

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Speaker 3: They're very good.

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Speaker 1: and women who serves this great country. How about this one,

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Speaker 1: Jay Mack, If I ask you today next five years,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Lover, Caleb Williams, who would you take?

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Speaker 3: Oh that's a tough one. Oh boy, what you got

552
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: to sandbag me? And ask me?

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Speaker 4: After Jordan Love poops his pants on national television against

554
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 4: the Eagles, Caleb would do the same.

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Speaker 3: I would lean Jordan Love. But who's my offensive coordinator?

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Speaker 3: Can I ask that?

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Speaker 1: No? In the current situation with Ben Johnson and Matt Lafleur,

558
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Speaker 1: they would have these coaches. They're not in any danger.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe who would you take next five years.

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Speaker 3: I'll go Jordan Love.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I would do Caleb.

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Speaker 3: I think he has no obviously your reactionary.

563
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Speaker 1: Here was Matt Hasselbeck yesterday on Caleb and the Ben

564
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Speaker 1: Johnson relationship.

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Speaker 7: He's a young player, and so he's done a great

566
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Speaker 7: job of improving on the things that he needed to

567
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Speaker 7: improve on last year. I got on here every week

568
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Speaker 7: and I said, he's got bad body language, he holds

569
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Speaker 7: onto the ball too long, he takes too many sacks,

570
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Speaker 7: you know, stuff like that. Ben Johnson gets hired. He

571
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Speaker 7: basically said the exact same things, and Caleb, to his credit,

572
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Speaker 7: has fixed them. He took no sacks again this past week.

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Speaker 7: He's finding checkdowns. He's not checked down, Charlie. He's taking

574
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Speaker 7: shots down the field. But if it's not there on rhythm,

575
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Speaker 7: protect the team, protect the offensive line, he's getting the

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Speaker 7: ball out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he's got a better arm than Jordan Love.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a better athlete, and he's very, very

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Speaker 1: inexpensive for the next four years.

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Speaker 4: Can I ask you Colin Trevor Lawrence next five or

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Speaker 4: Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, I've seen Trevor Lawrence gets hurt, turnover machine.

583
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Speaker 1: Caleb does not turn the ball.

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Speaker 3: Over at this rate.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like you have Caleb Williams projected as like

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Speaker 4: a top twelve ish quarterback.

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Speaker 5: In the league.

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00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, top ten. Let's give me about five more starts.

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Speaker 3: All right, fine, fine, final one.

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00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 4: Drake may next five years or Caleb Drake May Bo

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00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 4: Nix or Caleb Caleb boy, you love, he's some Caleb

592
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 4: Williams fun when it's rolling hot, coward's excited.

593
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 3: Another game winning drive for Caleb.

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Speaker 5: He's our guy.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: J Max with the news. Turn on the news.

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Speaker 2: This is the herd Line News.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with the New York Giants.

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Speaker 4: I should have asked you Jackson dart or Kivi Williams

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Speaker 4: by blah. We'll all stop it, all right, let's focus

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00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 4: on listen.

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00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: We love takes on this show. Colin.

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00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 4: This was a great take from a guest on the show,

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00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 4: Ian O'Connor.

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00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: He had an interesting piece about the Giants.

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Speaker 4: So they fired Able and Joe Shane is the GM

607
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Speaker 4: allegedly responsible to find the next coach. Well, how about

608
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 4: this from Ian O'Connor of The Athletic The home run

609
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Speaker 4: move would be if the.

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Speaker 3: Giants traded for Mike Tomlin.

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00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 4: Now that is an interesting take its outside the box.

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Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin would then leave that aging Pittsburgh defense, leave

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Speaker 4: the Aaron Rodgers stuff, and go to the New York

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Speaker 4: Giants to coach up the makings of a good defense

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Speaker 4: on paper.

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Speaker 1: At least last time the Giants were great. They hired

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Speaker 1: a successful coach in Jacksonville, Tom Kaflaflin. Yeah, so I

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Speaker 1: don't buy this. Let's just do interim coaches, coordinators. That's

619
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Speaker 1: not New York. You're getting a lot of this Pat

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Speaker 1: Shermer and Joe Judge, Jan Aaron Glenn and Adam Gay.

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Speaker 1: So I thought it was gonna work because Peyton Manning

622
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Speaker 1: loved him. In the end, if you're gonna hire anybody,

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Speaker 1: go get Lane Kiffin, Mike McCarthy or Ian O'Connor's suggestion,

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Speaker 1: Mike tom Oh, you gotta have a presence in New York.

625
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: You gotta have a presence. Mike Koff is a nice guy.

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Speaker 1: I made two calls last night. The question is is

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Speaker 1: he gonna be hard enough on players? Does he have

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Speaker 1: kind of that alpha presence? A lot of pushback on that.

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Speaker 3: You're into this, Tomlin idea.

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Speaker 1: Huh, I think it's intra I thought, oh, I read it,

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Speaker 1: I'd love you, and I read it, and I thought, well,

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Speaker 1: I'd go back and look at the history of New York.

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00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: It's like Parcels, Tom Cofflin, guys who had been successful

634
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: head coaches with big, strong, defiant alpha personalities.

635
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Speaker 3: Look at the screen.

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00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 4: That is Ghastly, McAdoo, Shermer, Judge and Dable, none of

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Speaker 4: them five hundred going back quite a ways the other

638
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Speaker 4: side of the equation, Tomlin, do you think he would

639
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Speaker 4: leave Pittsburgh? Is this considered an upgrade to go to

640
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 4: the New York Giants?

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Speaker 1: Well, they've got their they've got their quarterback.

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Speaker 3: You keep saying that, Colment, are you certain, Well, here's

643
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Speaker 3: my thing.

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Speaker 1: Here's my thing. You're gonna stay in the AFC. Josh Allen, Prime,

645
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Speaker 1: Lamar Prime, Herbert Prime, Mahomes prime to go to the NFC.

646
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: Jared Goff Prime, Stafford Old, Jalen Hurts Prime, Dak slightly

647
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Speaker 1: out of his prime. If you want to get to

648
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: Super Bowls, good luck against Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, Burrow, Herbert.

649
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Speaker 1: Do you want to get to Super Bowls? Go to

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Speaker 1: the NFC, Stafford's great, but old Darnold's really good. But

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Speaker 1: I'll take facing him over Mahomes, Allen or Lamar. I

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Speaker 1: mean to me, I got Jackson Dart. I don't have

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Speaker 1: to worry about that. I'm a defensive coach, so I

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Speaker 1: got my quarterback. I don't the defense up. Huh.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with It's not gonna happen. But I

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Speaker 4: love a good interesting outside the box take. And that's

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Speaker 4: good stuff for me. And all right, let's move on

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Speaker 4: to the Denver Broncos colin eight and two record. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's the best in the league. However, bo Nicks continues

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Speaker 4: to struggle. You know that Thursday night game, Holy hell,

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Speaker 4: he was bad against the Raiders. Well, Chase Daniel, former

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Speaker 4: NFL quarterback, has chimed in, believes Nicks is in a

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Speaker 4: hurry in the pocket, adding every single throw ball it's

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Speaker 4: just dying.

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Speaker 3: He's not seeing the field.

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Speaker 4: Well, this does not bowd well going up against the

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Speaker 4: Spagnolo defense that had a week off to prepare for

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Speaker 4: this game. This is a huge game in the division.

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Speaker 4: If the Broncos somehow win this column, you could just

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Speaker 4: lock up the division. They're not getting caught up they'd

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Speaker 4: be up three games on the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: I think Bow looks nervous in the first half, he's pressing,

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Speaker 1: and then I think Sean Payton is over compensating with

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Speaker 1: the calls. You can't have Courtland Sutton, Evan Ingram, Harvei, JK. Dobbins, Franklin.

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Speaker 1: You can't have this many good players in offense and

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Speaker 1: you can't score for three quarters.

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Speaker 3: You think it's that good of a supporting cast.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I think Evan Ingram's super athletic. I think the

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Speaker 1: receiving Cors got a bunch of solid guys long can run.

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Speaker 1: I like both their running backs. O lines top three

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Speaker 1: in the league. I'm sorry Daniel Jones is putting up

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Speaker 1: number one offense in the league with a similar supporting cast,

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Speaker 1: with a good old line and bar it. Now. I

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Speaker 1: think Jonathan Taylor's better than anybody in the building in Denver.

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Speaker 1: But the point is, you gotta be better than this.

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Speaker 1: You have to be so.

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Speaker 4: The few times I've watched bo Nicks closely, when I

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Speaker 4: bet on the Broncos Colin, the defenses are saying we're

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Speaker 4: gonna play the safeties deep because we're not going.

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Speaker 3: To get beat on bombs.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think you can matriculate the ball down

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Speaker 4: the field on a nine play eighty yard drive. You're

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Speaker 4: gonna screw up. And bo Nicks is just like taking

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Speaker 4: the bait. He's like, no, I got something deep, and

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Speaker 4: he keeps chucking these bombs and they're just not even

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Speaker 4: close to happening. In Mims his burner out with a concussion.

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Speaker 4: We don't know if he's going to be back. I

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Speaker 4: just don't know if I trust Nicks to have one

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Speaker 4: of these ball control drives down the field. Are you

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Speaker 4: seeing him hitting the underneath stuff and reading the defenses.

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Speaker 4: Because Sean Payton when he had breeze, that's the breeze,

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Speaker 4: bread and butter, eight ten yards over the middle. Lock

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Speaker 4: it up, Nix. I don't know that he can do that.

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Speaker 1: Right now, it's going to be six to seven quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: draft within the first two rounds. Would not be shocked

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Speaker 1: if Denver with their first or second pick, especially their second.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe they go get first pick, they go

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Speaker 1: get you know, the best player on the board. Now,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're deep second round. I think

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Speaker 1: they have a second round pick. Make sure they do,

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Speaker 1: But if they did, I could see them saying we'll

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Speaker 1: take Nutsmyer Lsu he dropped the second round. I'm just

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Speaker 1: telling you it may not be their first pick, but

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Speaker 1: I can see them Sean Payton going my second pick.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at the board very carefully.

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Speaker 3: Hold First of all, forget he got bench last weekend.

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Speaker 1: That being said, that's that.

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Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, you were crowning bon Knicks man,

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Speaker 4: and now you're like, I'm not seeing it in you're too.

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Speaker 1: One thing you know about me is move off stuff

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Speaker 1: if it doesn't work. Don't try to convince yourself. Your

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Speaker 1: eyes are lying to you. I thought he was a

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Speaker 1: great fit. Sixty one college starts made the playoffs last year,

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Speaker 1: but there the team is better and he is noticeably worse.

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Speaker 1: He is pressing, Peyton's compensating. There is no rhythm. I'm

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Speaker 1: just I'm you know, now, could it be sophomore blues.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying they trade him. I'm just saying, don't

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Speaker 1: be shocked. Second or third pick. Denver's like, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get some competition.

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Speaker 3: In the interesting. Interesting.

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Speaker 4: We might have to ask your guy Cosell, what the

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Speaker 4: hell is going on with bo Nicks ahead of his matchup,

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Speaker 4: because I gotta be honest.

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Speaker 3: I want to take the four and a half colin

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Speaker 3: with the Broncos at home.

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Speaker 1: You know, I get I kind of want.

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Speaker 3: To take that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, third story, Yes, yes, yes, it's Lebron James, the

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Speaker 4: object of your scoring lately. He's got that sciatica issue. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: He's set to practice with the Lakers G League affiliate.

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Speaker 4: Lakers are fine without him. Eighth game of the season

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Speaker 4: last night and they got the dub colin. After the win,

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Speaker 4: here's Austin Reeves talking about the excitement of what Lebron

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Speaker 4: will bring back to the lineup.

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Speaker 8: I told him he should play a game, it would

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Speaker 8: just be funny. But with South Bay, he can't wait

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Speaker 8: for him to come back. Obviously, it's you know, it's

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Speaker 8: Lebron James. He's, you know, in my opinion, the greatest

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Speaker 8: player to ever touch a basketball, and he knows when

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Speaker 8: he comes back, like, you know, this is how I

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Speaker 8: can help the team. You know, obviously it's Lebron. You

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Speaker 8: know he's going to help the team and whatever he

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Speaker 8: does because he's so good. But you know, he's a

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Speaker 8: super competitor. Can't wait to get him back.

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Speaker 1: All right, Your touches are gonna get cut in half.

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Speaker 3: I'll stop there, all right, J Mack with a new.

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Speaker 1: I bring it back. Some people say, where's Buffalo? Where's

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Speaker 1: green Bay? I can't put you in the top ten

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Speaker 1: if you don't have an identity through sixty percent of

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Speaker 1: the season. What's green Bay's identity? Offensively? They have none,

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Speaker 1: and Buffalo can't stop the run. If the Colts are

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Speaker 1: the tenth best team in the league, and I think

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Speaker 1: they are, ninth or tenth. How in the world could

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Speaker 1: I have Buffalo in there. The Colts may have a

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Speaker 1: ceiling to their identity, but they are a run first

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Speaker 1: offense that is tremendous at ball control, tremendous at yards

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Speaker 1: after the catch. I know what the Colts are. Every

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Speaker 1: team on that list, I know what their straints are

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Speaker 1: and their liabilities. Buffalo just has a great quarterback. Green

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Speaker 1: Bay has a really good roster. I just don't feel

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Speaker 1: I have any identity with the Buffalo Bills, and that's

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Speaker 1: my knock. I mean, they can't stop the run, which

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Speaker 1: I think is the first way to get beat. I said,

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Speaker 1: if the Colts hosted the Bills in a playoff game,

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Speaker 1: I take the Colts because I think they would run

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Speaker 1: for two hundred yards and I think Josh Allen would

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Speaker 1: have an uneven game based on he'd trail he'd have

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Speaker 1: to throw, There'd be long stretches where he was watching

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Speaker 1: the game as the Colts dominate time of possession. I

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Speaker 1: think knowing what you are is so valuable, not only

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Speaker 1: in games, but over a season, because every team has injuries,

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Speaker 1: every team has slumps. You know, every team has rough stretches.

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Speaker 1: So when you're in those Okay, we got to go

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Speaker 1: back to what we are the Colts. This week, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Colts lose at Pittsburgh, get blown out, they come

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Speaker 1: back against Atlanta, what do the Colts do? They ask themselves,

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Speaker 1: what are we run first, physical upfront team? And what

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Speaker 1: did they do? Jonathan Taylor almost two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: yards rushing. When you lose, you're in a slump, you

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Speaker 1: have injuries. You gotta know what to go back to.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's like, well, Josh Allen's good, It's not a top

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Speaker 1: ten team to me. Our three, Greg Olsen's coming up