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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome to the Therapy Gecko podcast. This is

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Speaker 1: a special Thanksgiving edition of gek Mail. For those who

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Speaker 1: are unfamiliar. Gek Mail is a version of this show

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Speaker 1: where instead of talking to a caller, I read viewer mail.

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Speaker 1: And this is a very special Thanksgiving edition of the

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Speaker 1: show because I have a special guest on the show,

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Speaker 1: my sister Chloe. Chloe, how you doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good? How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing really good? Chloe was at you were a

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Speaker 1: guest on the show many years ago, many years ago,

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Speaker 1: four years ago.

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Speaker 2: I've been on the show three and a half times.

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Speaker 1: What was the halftime?

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Speaker 2: The halftime was when I was the Jack in the Box,

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Speaker 2: the head.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I did a brand deal with Jack

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Speaker 1: in the Box like four years ago. And Chloe, they

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Speaker 1: sent me like the head of the clown guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And my wonderful sister sat there on stream for like.

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Speaker 2: Forty five minutes and that stifling ahead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. She was willing to be Jack.

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Speaker 2: I was willing to be Jack.

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Speaker 1: It was very nice of her.

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Speaker 2: I know, I'm a really good sister.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So sometimes I don't want to take phone calls,

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Speaker 1: so I read viewer mail and stuff.

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair.

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Speaker 1: Some of so I'm going to try. Some of them

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Speaker 1: are like intense, okay. Some of them are like funny okay,

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Speaker 1: but it's a lot of intense stuff.

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Speaker 2: So what do you mean by intense.

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Speaker 1: Like just life, just people, just you know, Uh, well.

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Speaker 2: Should we ease until one that's kind of funny and

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Speaker 2: then do one that's intense and see which one we

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Speaker 2: are driving with more?

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Speaker 1: You know. I wish we could do that. I wish

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Speaker 1: that that was how this worked.

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Speaker 2: But like it's oh, it's just you pick it out

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Speaker 2: and I just pick.

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Speaker 1: It out and I read it. But I can also

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Speaker 1: start reading it and then it will No.

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Speaker 2: I think if you're already starting to read it, you

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Speaker 2: just have to go for it. Okay, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: if it's funny, you're lighthearted or okay bad.

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Speaker 1: I was actually I was skimming through them and I

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Speaker 1: saw one that was that was a little sexual in nature,

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Speaker 1: and I'll skip those.

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Speaker 2: I think that would be great than have you seen

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Speaker 2: any of that are sibling focus talking about your siblings,

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Speaker 2: your brothers and sisters.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I think there's a lot of stuff, but there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of like.

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Speaker 2: Like just your family in general.

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, there's I think, yeah, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: like family stuff in here. I can I can skim

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Speaker 1: through for that. I was gonna bring this up. I

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Speaker 1: but do you We've talked about this a lot. But

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Speaker 1: do you remember so Chloe was on my show, yeah,

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Speaker 1: three times, and we got an email once we did

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Speaker 1: get any We got a really nice email from someone

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Speaker 1: who said something like, correct me if I'm remembering this wrong,

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Speaker 1: lost their sisters to I think a drug over the drugs.

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Speaker 1: That was nice. We sat right here on this table.

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Speaker 1: We cried a little bit. Do you remember that? It

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Speaker 1: was really tough.

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Speaker 2: I still have saved and I look at it sometimes.

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Speaker 2: And he said that it was a win that we

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Speaker 1: It is a win.

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Speaker 2: So can you hear our dog screaming in the background.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I usually put these podcasts through like a

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Speaker 1: noise through, like a background noise reduction thing, but I

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Speaker 1: at We're just home for the holiday, home for the holidays. Okay,

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Speaker 1: should I start reading some emails?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I want to, I wanna, I want let's dive in.

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Speaker 1: So this is from a NIEMA subject line. I found

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Speaker 1: a great support group, Hi, Lyle. Many people are like

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Speaker 1: me and grew up in a dysfunctional family as a kid.

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Speaker 1: I was scared of becoming like them, and I sort

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Speaker 1: can you try to avoid growing up in.

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Speaker 2: A no becoming like her family? Their family?

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Speaker 1: Sorry? Oh, okay, okay, I'm so glad you're here because sometimes,

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Speaker 1: just like my brain like works it, I'm a little scared.

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Speaker 2: Don't be scared.

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Speaker 1: I'm scared that I might have dementia.

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Speaker 2: I don't even want to think about that. That seems

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Speaker 2: really sad. And also, dementia doesn't run in our family,

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Speaker 2: so I don't think you have dementia. Sometimes Alzheimer's are hereditary.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm talking to Dad and he'll like.

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Speaker 2: No, Actually, that's such a good point. I do think

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Speaker 2: he might have early onset dementia, but.

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Speaker 1: It might be from like smoking weed and stuff.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I like, you think he's high at

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Speaker 1: Of No, I don't think. No, I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: like I know he smokes and I smoke a lot,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. As i'm I think, as I'm getting well,

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Speaker 1: I promise we'll get back to the email. But I think,

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Speaker 1: as I'm getting older, and I'm not that old, but

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Speaker 2: Think that's how most people are, Like you don't remember

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Speaker 2: the things I I mean, I'm thirty now and I

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Speaker 2: barely remember anything from high school. M Like, I barely

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Speaker 1: So this is the thing that happens a lot in

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Speaker 1: Kind, yeah, I do have name blindness. Can you use

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Speaker 2: Well, people have face blindness. That's like a legitimate thing

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Speaker 2: maybe you have name, or maybe you are demented.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember people like I'll okay, so a caller

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Speaker 1: But then a caller will be like, hey, man, I

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Speaker 2: Remembering someone's name is not necessarily the most important thing.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to just get their thing across. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: and you can call them Joe Shmo, and I don't care.

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Speaker 1: That's why I fact okay. I was scared of becoming

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Speaker 1: I tried to avoid it. Recently, I found a group

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Speaker 1: been in therapy and other men's groups before, and they

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Speaker 1: That's great anyway, I just wanted to share so other

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Speaker 1: people might find it. They talk about God like in

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Speaker 1: the Step twelve step program, but it isn't religious. Maybe

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Speaker 1: is the serenity prayer. Do you know the serenity prayer?

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Speaker 2: It is I believe God, accept God grant me the

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Speaker 2: serenity to accept the things that cannot change, the courage

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Speaker 1: Yes, they wrote the serenity.

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Speaker 2: Prayer, serenity saying serenity.

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Speaker 1: Serenity, Serenity, serenity prayer. Yeah, they wrote the serenity Serenity prayer.

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Speaker 1: That was it. That was their whole email.

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Speaker 1: You've never been to a twelve step meeting? Have you?

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Speaker 2: I've never needed one. Have you been to a twelve

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Speaker 2: But I will say he said something interesting, this this person.

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Speaker 1: I think I have things that are like our mom.

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Speaker 2: you're more like our dad than I am like our mom.

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Speaker 2: I think it's actually I think I'm more of a

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Speaker 1: When I think I overheard we were just we were

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Speaker 1: I see the spitting image of your father.

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Speaker 2: Well, you do look a lot like him when he

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Speaker 1: I was like and then he said this thing that

440
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Speaker 1: like blew my mind. He was like, you know, introspection

441
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 1: never really appealed to me interesting, which and I was like,

442
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 1: the way, the way he's he said it like it

443
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 1: was like like it was like tennis, like it was

444
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 1: the hobby or there's like this optional thing.

445
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 2: But that's not optional to you. You love and you're constantly.

446
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: Well, I do. I like it, but it's also like

447
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,919
Speaker 1: it feels like it's just as a part of my existence.

448
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 1: But it was interesting, I guess, I don't know.

449
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Speaker 2: It was very smart.

450
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Speaker 1: He's really smart. He's really smart.

451
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Speaker 2: My guy. He will want into Harvard back in the day. Yeah,

452
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 2: you know, he's certainly not one to I don't think

453
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Speaker 2: he's mentally ill.

454
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Speaker 1: No, I don't think he's mentally at all.

455
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Speaker 2: He's the least mentally ill person in this entire past.

456
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Speaker 1: Absolutely so. I think he's an example of, you know,

457
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Speaker 1: a smart guy who's not mentally mentally ill. Okay, okay,

458
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Speaker 1: this is from Fernando. Fernando living with twelve people and

459
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Speaker 1: no privacy. Oh hi, Lyle. I wanted to reach out

460
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Speaker 1: because I feel like I need an outside perspective on

461
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Speaker 1: what's going on in my life. I'm an immigrant living

462
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Speaker 1: in the US, and because of my status, there are

463
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Speaker 1: a lot of things I can't do, like getting a

464
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Speaker 1: normal job. I've been taking seasonal care or cash based

465
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: work wherever I can, but most places either don't want

466
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Speaker 1: to deal with it or don't have space. Still, I'm

467
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: trying my best. Right now, I live with my parents,

468
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 1: my siblings, and my uncle's family. Thanks to my uncle,

469
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Speaker 1: we have a place to stay. He has six kids

470
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Speaker 1: and five of them live here, and four of us

471
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Speaker 1: are between seventeen and twenty one. I'm twenty one myself.

472
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Speaker 1: This is where things have gotten tense. I've been arguing

473
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Speaker 1: more with my cousins, and small comments like asking why

474
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 1: I don't have a job quickly escalate into threats about

475
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Speaker 1: kicking me out. I get where the frustration comes, but

476
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: I also help with rent wherever I have money. The

477
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: house is already packed and privacy basically does not exist.

478
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Speaker 1: One cousin has a child, two of them have boyfriends

479
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Speaker 1: who sometimes stay the night, and another cousin have their

480
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Speaker 1: girlfriend moved in. I'm not even sure if she pays rent.

481
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Speaker 1: With all that going on, it's frustrating that I'm the

482
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Speaker 1: one getting singled out the most. That is frustrating with

483
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Speaker 1: all these people in the house, It's like, why why

484
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Speaker 1: you getting on my case? I finished my AA last

485
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Speaker 1: May associates. What is that associates.

486
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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure AA is associate's degree or maybe something else.

487
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Speaker 1: We're gonna look that up. Is an AA degree? Oh,

488
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Speaker 1: Associate of Arts. It's a two year yeah, undergraduate.

489
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Speaker 2: It's like community college.

490
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: Okay, I finished my so you finished community college last May,

491
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 1: And ironically that's when things started to go downhill at home.

492
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: I don't have the money to continue school right now,

493
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Speaker 1: and for months I've been trying to find steady work,

494
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: but nothing has come through. At this point, the whole

495
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 1: house barely talks unless it's something simple like past the salt.

496
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like a family anymore, more like a

497
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Speaker 1: group of strangers surviving in the same space. I'm not

498
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Speaker 1: sure how to navigate all this, and I'd appreciate any

499
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Speaker 1: perspective you might have. Thanks for reading, Fernanda. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: say a few things upfront, Fernando. I first of all,

501
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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you, Sharon, your story with us. Yeah. Absolutely,

502
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: I uh, you know, I mean, we we had I

503
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: don't know, I read stuff like this all the time,

504
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, we had a pretty good childhood,

505
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: you know, but.

506
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Speaker 2: We certainly didn't have twelve people living under the same

507
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Speaker 2: roof and four of those people being seventeen to twenty one. Yeah,

508
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: that's pretty brutal.

509
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Speaker 1: So I'm trying to think about how, like, what can

510
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Speaker 1: Fernando do? I guess, I mean it feels like, I

511
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Speaker 1: don't know, do you have any thoughts about this? It's

512
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 1: okay if you don't. I know, this stuff's kind of hard.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I would say that my biggest excuse me

514
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 3: thing is I think he just needs to find outlets

515
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 3: outside of the house, get him kind of out as

516
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Speaker 3: much as possible.

517
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, I think hobbies are a beautiful thing,

518
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 2: and something as simple as you know, walking a lot

519
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 2: or joining like a local YMCA or something like that,

520
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 2: I can get you really out of the house. I

521
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 2: think is spending his little time there as possible. It's

522
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: probably good for you. But I also think there is

523
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Speaker 2: something to be said about getting everybody together and kind

524
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 2: of having a knockout, drag out fight. You say all

525
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: the things that you feel, and then you can move

526
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Speaker 2: on and maybe there'll be less tension in the house.

527
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Speaker 2: But I definitely sympathize with his plight, you know, being

528
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Speaker 2: an immigrant, I'm sure it's very very hard nowadays to

529
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Speaker 2: get a job, and I feel bad that he's in

530
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Speaker 2: this scenario. And I don't know if there's necessarily a

531
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Speaker 2: way out that I can provide that way, But I

532
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 2: think getting out of the house but then and also

533
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Speaker 2: communicating with everybody together in one place might be the

534
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Speaker 2: best way way to have peace.

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00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: I wonder if, like I see one of the things

536
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: I wish I could talk to frand because I'm like,

537
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: he's got to have at least one ally in the house.

538
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 2: Well, I want to know how big the house is, Yeah,

539
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: for two, Like, is it a McMansion and twelve people

540
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 2: are living in it comfortably but not with.

541
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Speaker 1: I'm assume there's a lot of beds in I'm assume

542
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: there's or.

543
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: Is it literally like a three bedroom apartment? People are

544
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 2: on top of each other, Like I want to know

545
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: the logistics of the apartment or the living situation, but.

546
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Speaker 1: I'm going to assume there's a few more people living.

547
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna assume there's a solid handful more people living

548
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: in the house than than is that then the house

549
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: is designed accommodates. I wonder if he has any allies,

550
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: Like does he have does he at least have one

551
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: person in the house on his level of being, like

552
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: this fucking sucks that he can connect. Does he have

553
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: anyone else that he can like connect with. If you do,

554
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: you really, you know, form a bond with that person

555
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: his I guess he has his mom, but I don't

556
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: know what his relationship is like with his mind. He

557
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: might not be then I.

558
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: Guess find an ally. If you don't have one, fine one.

559
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get really into taking.

560
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: Walks, yeah, or your local YMCA.

561
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: Does that cost money?

562
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think so. Maybe it does.

563
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: It probably does, I think of it. But there are

564
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Speaker 2: free like community centers that you can go to. Go

565
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Speaker 2: to the library, get a library card that's free, get

566
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Speaker 2: a library Well.

567
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, if you finish your community call like if

568
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: you're in like you just spend as little time out

569
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Speaker 1: of the house as possible.

570
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: I think we didn't give him good advice.

571
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: I don't think we did either, but we read his

572
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: email and for nada.

573
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 2: We're here for you and if you want to follow

574
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: up and let us know if you took literally under

575
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 2: the five horrible suggestions that we gave, we would be

576
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: happy to hear from you. How this is going in

577
00:28:59,000 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: the future.

578
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, I guess maybe it's helpful to know,

579
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: like Fernando, if you don't have any kind of like

580
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: responsibility at the house, like just spend as much time,

581
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,959
Speaker 1: just go on to stand around, walk around.

582
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: No, don't stand around, don't loiter.

583
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: No do that. No walk around the grocery store for

584
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: like an, I'm not even saying I do that kind

585
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: of shit. Sometimes I don't want to go home in

586
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: store for two hours. Yeah, sometimes I'll be like like,

587
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: I'll go on a walk and I'm like, it's aimless walk.

588
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm you know whatever, And I'll just walk into

589
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: a grocery store and I'll be like, huh, what kind

590
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: of cereal is going on these days? You know whatever,

591
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: It's better than being at home doing nothing.

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Speaker 2: Be safe with that, Fernando, What's.

593
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Speaker 1: What's so not safe about being it going to being

594
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: in a grocery store.

595
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: I mean, they're not nothing not being safe. Just be safe.

596
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 2: I don't know why that's a problem that I said that,

597
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: it's not a problem.

598
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: It's not a probably just inferring that there was something unsafe.

599
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: About not anything unsafe, just you know, be safe, be

600
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: safe for an. I think that's a blanket statement. We

601
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: could say that to Emma and the other previous emailer.

602
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Speaker 1: Okay, another email, all right, this is from uh Tristan

603
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Speaker 1: Tristan Okay, subject line Belgian American fella just graduated from

604
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: a master's feeling like okay now what lol? Okay, dear

605
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: esteemed Lyle, Sir.

606
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Speaker 2: Gek esteamed Lyle.

607
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Speaker 1: All right, I've been a fan for a very long

608
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Speaker 1: time and your podcast makes my days washing dishes in

609
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: a restaurant much more bearable.

610
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Speaker 2: That's so sweet, very sweet.

611
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Speaker 1: I wish I could call in, but international calling fees

612
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Speaker 1: are insanely expensive. Unfortunately. Well I'm glad you could reach

613
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: us via email.

614
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now you got two for the price of one,

615
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Speaker 2: and even better.

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Speaker 1: All right. So I'm come from an American family but

617
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Speaker 1: lived most of my life in Brussels, Belgium. At the

618
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Speaker 1: age of eighteen, I left home to study digital social

619
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: sciences media studies in the Netherlands. Words. It's a lot

620
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: of words. It's a weird study, yes, and I often

621
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: second guess if it was the right decision, because I

622
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: guess because when people, when he explains it to people,

623
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: they say, that's a lot of words. Yeah. The UNI

624
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: life away from home was incredible, and so much fun.

625
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 1: I really grew out of my shell and became a

626
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Speaker 1: person I'm much more proud of and happy being. After

627
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: my bachelor's was done, I wasn't ready to move back

628
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: home yet, so I decided to stay and get a

629
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: master's in the same study program. I recently graduated and

630
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: have now obtained my master's. And he put two exclamation

631
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Speaker 1: points after that, congratulations. My question really boils down to, Okay, well,

632
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: now what my gut is telling me to keep working

633
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: part time as I'm doing right now and then go

634
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: back to traveling. After my bachelor's was done, I had

635
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: saved enough money to go to Japan for a whole

636
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: month last January slash February, and it was incredible. I'd

637
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: love to get a better job and go back and

638
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: travel more. I want to try trading. I want to

639
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: try making travel videos because seeing thousands of content creators

640
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: being able to make content by traveling that then pays

641
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: for itself via the content makes me incredibly jealous. I'm

642
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: generally feeling a bit lost and anxious about finally closing

643
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: the chapter on university, although I'm also extremely excited and

644
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: open minded about the future. I also had an idea

645
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: to hitchhike across Belgium, the very small country I've lived

646
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: in my whole life, but barely traveled at all. By

647
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: the way, let me know if you're ever in little

648
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: old Belgium. I've never been to. Have you ever been

649
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: to Belgium?

650
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Speaker 2: You've been to Belgium?

651
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: I don't think No, I've never been to Bristols.

652
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: Oh, maybe I'm wrong.

653
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: Then I feel like all the European city a lot

654
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Speaker 1: of the European places kind of.

655
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Speaker 2: I've never been to Belgium either, but I've heard amazing things.

656
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Speaker 2: It is a place I want to go in the future.

657
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: Uh So, yeah, that's it. We'd love to hear your

658
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: thoughts and advice. I will also definitely be working toward

659
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: an extended Japan trip again, would love to hear any

660
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: advice you have on that too.

661
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: Japan is the hot ticket, is the hot.

662
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: Bunch of people. A bunch of people are going to Japan.

663
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: I don't think they like it.

664
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: I think they don't think that the Japanese people like it. Oh.

665
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: I think they're putting on a new tax to like

666
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: curb tourism to Japan.

667
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, Well, is that the end of the email

668
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: or do you have something else to say?

669
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: He says more than he says. I want to go

670
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: to Japan and hopefully bump into the funny, green faced

671
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: costumed individual known as Therapy Gecko. Lots of love, dude,

672
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: keep doing your thing, get best. Okay, remember his name was,

673
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: do you remember all the Best? Trizzy?

674
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 2: Trizzy? Oh? I love it? Okay, Trizzy. So you've got

675
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: a lot in there for us to talk about. I

676
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: would say that the first thing is that it is

677
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: scary to be closing the chapter on university because you've

678
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: you're now becoming a real bonifide adult, and that's a

679
00:33:59,240 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: scary thought.

680
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. After my bat's done, Okay, So I don't

681
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: So it sounds like you have a bit of a

682
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 1: travel bug. You got things you want to do.

683
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: And that's really like you have a massive travel bug.

684
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: You're trying to go everywhere in the world.

685
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 1: I do. I do.

686
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: Some places maybe you shouldn't.

687
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: Want to go to, but sure, sure I I I think,

688
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you should do if you have

689
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: like cause you're this was guys like twenty two. I

690
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: have no idea he's probably twenty probably twenty two. I

691
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: think if you have the idea because like right and now,

692
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: I think you should do like anything that you want

693
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: to do travel wise, I think you should always do

694
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: while you're young, because you're only gonna have more responsibilities

695
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: and you're only going to feel weirder about like being

696
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: broken stuff like as you yeah, that is get older.

697
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: So like, if you're twenty two and like, you can

698
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: hitchhike across Belgium and you can, like because you're trying to,

699
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: you can sleep on the ground, get you can like backpack,

700
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: you can stay at these hostels for like no money.

701
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: And look, you can do that when you're you know,

702
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: thirty and and and on. You're not gonna want to.

703
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: And also you might you know, I don't know what

704
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: you're money. You might get a really good digital social

705
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: studies media studies job that's not going to let you

706
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: take off for that long. So I'm a fan of.

707
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: And also the other thing is once you do ship

708
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 1: like this for long enough, like you hitchhike across Belgium,

709
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: you'll get you'll get bored, or you won't get I

710
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: don't know about bored, but you'll be like, uh oh,

711
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: I got to go make an actual life for myself.

712
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: But you want to arrive. This is how it works

713
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: for me, is I guess is by the cycles of

714
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 1: my life are I'll do some crazy travel whatever thing

715
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: to to the point of exhaustion where I'm like, okay,

716
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: I need to have like a ba base in a

717
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: real life, and then I go back home. And then

718
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: I immediately not immediately, but after and then I go

719
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: back home. I clean my room, I make I buy groceries,

720
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: I buy up spoon and a fork.

721
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 2: And one spoon.

722
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: I have one. I have one spoon. I have one for.

723
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 2: You have one spoon and one for.

724
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm a single man living alone. Why do I need

725
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: more than what?

726
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 2: If you have a lady come over or a man,

727
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to you know?

728
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: If I have a lady or a man come over,

729
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, I'll why do we need? I'll

730
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: make what makes I don't know? People? You know?

731
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: Well? While you know another thing that women like a

732
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 2: man that cooks.

733
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: We were just in so hold on, Tristan, we're goingning

734
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: it back your email. But we were just I just

735
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: had a discussion with my sister because I told her

736
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: that I'm in a I'm in an era where I

737
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: go through these multiple I'm in an era where I

738
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: don't really care how I look, and so I'm waiting. Okay,

739
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: so this is an audio only experience. But my hair

740
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: is fucked up, my beard is fucked up. I'm wearing

741
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: a shirt that isn't doesn't make me look like an adult.

742
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: My pants are bad. I don't look like a regular guy.

743
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: I look like a schlub. And I told Chloe, I

744
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: know I appreciate. I think truth is honest. I think

745
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: truth is love.

746
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: Truth is love. Don't love your job, job your love.

747
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: Have you seen that? No? What is it some dumb

748
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: influencer thing. This like one of those people that are

749
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: like they do podcasts about, you know, waking up at

750
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 2: three o'clock in the morning, so that way you maximize

751
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 2: your day of productivity to be a boss babe.

752
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: What does it mean to job your love?

753
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: No one knows, But she said I learned to don't

754
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: just job. Don't just love your job, job your love.

755
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: Oh that makes it okay, make your love, No, it

756
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: makes it, make your love, make love your job. Go on,

757
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: so clo and so I told clothes like, you should

758
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: get a haircut and trim your beard and do And

759
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 1: I told Chloe, I'm like, I need to lose forty

760
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: to I need to lose thirty to forty pounds first

761
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: before I care. So I'm just don't. I just don't

762
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: care about the rest of how I look right now.

763
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: And once I lose thirty to forty pounds, I'll be like, Okay,

764
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna now commit myself to trying to look like

765
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: a normal attractive man, and then I'll do all the

766
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: other stuff and that and that's the time. And to you,

767
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: you think that that's really fucking stupid, And.

768
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: I would if whatever, women or men, anyone, really, anyone,

769
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: please give your give your thoughts back to my brother.

770
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 2: Please please write in if you're listening and give your thoughts.

771
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: I think that's silly because you are giving yourself a

772
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: timeline of I am gonna look good maybe in six

773
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 2: to seven months. But as we've just talked about, life

774
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: is fleeting and you don't have a long time on

775
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 2: this earth, and you should be spending as much time

776
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: as possible trying to to like feel good, and a

777
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,479
Speaker 2: lot of times the best way to feel good about

778
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: yourself and to like be happy is ultimately when you

779
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: look good. For example, I really don't like my natural hair.

780
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: And so I showered this morning and I blew blowed

781
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: through blue droke blow dried it, whatever, and I'm feeling

782
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: immediately better about how my day is going to go.

783
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 2: And I think that this idea that you're like gonna

784
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 2: wait six to seven or even longer than that to

785
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: just like look good and feel good is silly because

786
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: you could do those things. As I was listening all

787
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 2: of the things that I think, you.

788
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I would, but I'd still be I'd still

789
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: be yeah, but i'd still be fat. I would still

790
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: that's like, and that's like seventy percent of the issue.

791
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: But if you can fix thirty percent of the issue

792
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: right now, why wouldn't you?

793
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: Because I'd rather because if you're just.

794
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: Trying to live to zero or one hundred percent.

795
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: Okay, actually, you know what I actually you know what

796
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: it is. I think part of it be fear based. Okay,

797
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: you know why?

798
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: Why?

799
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 1: Because right now in my head, I'm fantasizing about the

800
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: potential of how.

801
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: Good I could look, and you're afraid of the actual.

802
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm fantasizing by the potential of good I can look,

803
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: and I think I think I can look pretty good.

804
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: I just need to lose thirty or forty pounds.

805
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: But I think that you're you're missing the forest through

806
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: the trees of like this is gonna sound really mean.

807
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: I don't.

808
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: No, it's not gonna people. No, please, you're not. You're

809
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: not gonna hurt my feelings. I want you to know.

810
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about hurting your feelings. I'm worried about

811
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: the people being like, wow, Lyle sister is a huge bitch.

812
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 1: Go ahead.

813
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: I think that you have potential, but it's not just

814
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 2: in your weight. I think that you have a lot

815
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: of areas that you could improve on, and I.

816
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: Like physically physically yeah, like yeah, I know, No, I'm aware.

817
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: And so I think that if you do those things,

818
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: then maybe you'll feel less like your weight is like

819
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: such a big deal.

820
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: But I'm afraid. Here's the thing, right, is like, if

821
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: I'm leaning in to being schlubby, then every day I

822
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: look in the mirror, I'm like, oh, okay, that's for now,

823
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: you know. But if I get my hair cut and

824
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: I let my nails go around, I don't bite them,

825
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: and I wear a nice shirt and I do my beard,

826
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: and I look in the mirror I know what's good.

827
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: I know what I'm gonna think. I'm gonna look in

828
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: the mirror and i'm gonna go, fuck, I'm still fat.

829
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: But if I lose forty pounds and then I do

830
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: all that stuff, I'm gonna look in the mirror, I'm

831
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: be like I knew it. I knew I could be

832
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: of attractive man.

833
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: But you might even look in the mirror when you're

834
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: not thinking of the other side of it is that

835
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: you might look at yourself in the mirror when you

836
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 2: do all those other things and think, Wow, even though

837
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: I'm still overweighted, I look pretty good.

838
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look in the mirror and I'm gonna go

839
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: I bet I would look really good if I lost

840
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: forty pounds.

841
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 2: Still look good with losing forty pounds. And what I

842
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: was also trying to impress upon him is, you know,

843
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 2: we're both single, and we were both interested in data

844
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: and getting married and having kids.

845
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

846
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 2: And the apps are abysmal these days, as I'm sure

847
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: many of you out there feel the same way. And

848
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 2: so if some some girls walking around and sees you

849
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: when you made those thirty percent changes, she might think, oh,

850
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: that guy is good looking. Sure, he could lose thirty pounds,

851
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: but that's fine.

852
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: But I won't even clock that because she might come

853
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: up to you. Why would happen, doesn't happen?

854
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: You don't know that, But you definitely don't know that

855
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: because you look like right now.

856
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: But I won't clock it because I'm not even Tristan.

857
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to you home more seconds.

858
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 2: But sorry, Tristan.

859
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: But but the problem is that I think you need

860
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: to have the confidence to believe that someone is even

861
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: like right, I don't have the like when I'm like

862
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: talking to like when I'm about the world right now,

863
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: I don't even have the And it's not a lack

864
00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: of like. So it's not poor self esteem like i've.

865
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: I've I think pretty strong. So I think I'm a

866
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: you know, I think you know, I I have a

867
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: lot to offer, But I am like just you know,

868
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: I like being situationally aware, and I'm aware of the

869
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: situation in which I'm overweight, and so I'm when I

870
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: talk to people, I'm always I'm like, I just don't

871
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: have the confidence of like, this person's romantically interested in me,

872
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm just not even gonna clock it.

873
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: Right now, so I'll just do all of it once.

874
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: But anyway, the spoon thing.

875
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 2: I've already on record that I think this is silly,

876
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 2: and I really hope that somebody.

877
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 1: I've been arguing with a lot of my friends about.

878
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: The spoon thing, not the spoon thing, the thing that

879
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: we were just talking about. I like for somebody to

880
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: please clue and that I'm right. Anyway, go back to

881
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 2: the spoin thing.

882
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: The spoon thing. There's a lot of thing that I think.

883
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff between. There's a lot, like,

884
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 1: there's a lot of good foots that I can put

885
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: forward to a prospective romantic interest before she finds out

886
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: that I only have one spoon, and there's enough time.

887
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: For you to get a second spoon.

888
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: This is also probably listen, I have a cool look,

889
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: There's I got a lot of stuff. I can offer

890
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: a lot. Okay, I'm like, listen, we can go places,

891
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: we can do things whatever. Like it's like I only

892
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: have one spoon. Oh, who gives a shit, Let's go

893
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: to Let's go to somewhere that they have spoons.

894
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 2: Oh to buy more. You wouldn't think about buying more spoons?

895
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: What am I gonna do? With What am I going

896
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: to do with more than one?

897
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: Know? How many spoons I have?

898
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: How many spoons do you have?

899
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 2: Probably twenty?

900
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: What what the fuck do you need twenty spoons for?

901
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 2: Because I make I cook a lot at my house

902
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: and I don't want to do dishes. I put my

903
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: my spoons in the dishwasher and so then eventually, like

904
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: I'll run out of spoons, then I'll do the dishes.

905
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: I have one spoon. I use it occasionally and if

906
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: I need to actually know what, use it every night

907
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: lately because I've been making a lot of hot chocolate,

908
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: and I'll i'll, I'll wash the spoon with uh some soap,

909
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: and then I have a clean spoon. Why do I

910
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: need Why do I need twenty of the spoons?

911
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: I I'm no longer interested in trying to convince you

912
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: of this having more spoons. Let's go back to ty.

913
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: So anyway, the reason we first got the reason we

914
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: got on the spoon thing is like, yeah, I'm like,

915
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm tired of spoons. I want to leave

916
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: domestic life. So I go in and out of like

917
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: wanting to travel and wanting to be stable. But I

918
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: think for you, since you're really fucking young. Yeah, and

919
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: you have no responsibilities right now, I think, and I

920
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: think you should do it, you know, because you're a

921
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 1: because you're all you're gonna remember that stuff. Like I really,

922
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: I really remember all the every every like adventure I've

923
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: been on and every show, like I remember it all

924
00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: very well. It like these are like really core memories

925
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: that I have any time I do anything like that.

926
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: And so and also, by the way, it's really like

927
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: when you look into this shit, it's not that expensive

928
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: to try, especially like if you want to like hitchhike

929
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: as especially dude, for you, if you want to hitchhike

930
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: across Belgium. I mean, how much does that cost to hitch?

931
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hitchhiking situation is.

932
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 2: Like, you know what they say, youth is wasted on

933
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,479
Speaker 2: the young. Yeah, so you're young, and you have plenty

934
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 2: of time to use that bachelor's degree and that master's degree.

935
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: So you should just if you have the financial means

936
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: or if you have the means to, you know, do

937
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: one of those cool things where you work in like

938
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: a coffee shop in fucking Munich for a month or

939
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: whatever it is that you want to end up doing.

940
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: Or you can work somewhere in Japan for a little

941
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 2: like working some bus boy job or whatever it is.

942
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: I think you should do that.

943
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: So yeah, and also you make a video about it?

944
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: Why not? I would watch that. That sounds cool. Sure,

945
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: you know, make a video a hitchhigross Belgium. Yeah, make

946
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: a video about it.

947
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: There's this guy that's doing a bike ride from like

948
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: Portugal to Japan.

949
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: Mm hm.

950
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 2: I get his videos sometimes on reels and I'll watch them.

951
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Seeah, I don't know. I don't. I guess

952
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: like if your whole thing is like I'm gonna do

953
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: it without uh. If you're yeah, like yeah, going to

954
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: Japan for a month, that'll cost some money, not that much.

955
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: It'll costs mainly money to get over there.

956
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm saying. If you want to go

957
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: work in Munich for a little bit, you can stay

958
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: in a hostel probably pretty cheap, or Brussel your your

959
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 2: and Brussels. Like, I don't know, just save up some money,

960
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 2: keep working doing whatever it is that you're doing, save

961
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 2: up some money and travel around and hitchhike and do

962
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 2: some shit. You live in Europe, so easy to do

963
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: that stuff.

964
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,479
Speaker 1: And you know what, Tristan, You know it is great.

965
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: Tristan will come back and he won't have any but

966
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: he won't have no spoons, but he'll have memory memories,

967
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: and I think memories, memories last longer than spoons.

968
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I have five more minutes. Okay, so we can

969
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: do one more.

970
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: All right, let's do one more. Let's see Okay, we'

971
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: i'll uh, I'll finish it up. I'll read a few

972
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: more emails after you leave. Okay, let's do this one. Uh. Okay,

973
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: this is from Flux.

974
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: Okay.

975
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: Subject line, I'm the DMT guy, the DMT. Do you

976
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: know what DMT is? No, DMT is like a very

977
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 1: powerful psychedelic drug. I've never taken it. Okay, Joe Rogan

978
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: talks about it a lot, my hero. Hey Lyle, I'm Flux.

979
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: The guy you talked to about my DMT experiences this

980
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: year and was in your podcast. Okay. I think I

981
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: remember this guy because he talked I think this guy

982
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: was if this There's been a few people that have

983
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: called into the show about doing DMT, and I think

984
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: this was the guy who talked about like just doing

985
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: it like every day for like a while. Okay, I

986
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,959
Speaker 1: just wanted to check in and say hi, I haven't

987
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: done d m T in a while, but I don't

988
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: have any regrets. In fact, I'm glad I did. I've

989
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: been learning a lot about parapsychology and it's been great. Unrelated,

990
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: my lady broke up with me today because of numerous reasons.

991
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: Really funny, Okay, go on, but it came down to

992
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: cohesiveness in our relationship. Wait, wait, you're gonna you're gonna hate,

993
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna hate this. As a gamer, it was really

994
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: hard to not text her back just saying gigs. Oh,

995
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 1: you don't know what that means? Good games, good games. Yes,

996
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: she played games too. I'm gonna assume she doesn't, which

997
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: makes this really funny.

998
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: Your teeth are looking good, by the way, Thank you.

999
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 1: When you're entist, you're.

1000
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 2: Really we'll get back to this person's email, but I

1001
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: feel like you're really. You've really mastered your your brushing situation.

1002
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: Dental hygiene, mental hygiene. This is another reason I don't

1003
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: have spoons, is because you, like so many things in life,

1004
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 1: demand your attention. Your fucking teeth, the dishwasher, cook every work, family.

1005
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: People want to text it.

1006
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: And you can siding between dental hygiene and having more spoons.

1007
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: Kind of we're deciding between a lot of different things

1008
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: and spoons. Okay, anyway, sorry, okay, sorry, So yeah, like

1009
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 1: if you play, like if I'm playing like a video

1010
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: game with someone for a while and then after we

1011
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 1: finished playing, I'll we'll wear back just text gs good games.

1012
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: So cool. So when this guy, after this guy's relationship ended,

1013
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: he just texted her back and wrote.

1014
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 2: Oh god, okay, sounds like my type of guy. Okay,

1015
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: what else did you say?

1016
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: He said? He said, ps, come to Alaska. I got you. Okay,

1017
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: I will come to Alaska at some point.

1018
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 2: He'll DM you back on that.

1019
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: Do you have anything to say about this or should we?

1020
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 2: I wish your ex coir friend the best of luck,

1021
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: and I wish you the best of luck with this.

1022
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything I have to add, So

1023
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: we can do one more email where we have something

1024
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 2: to add.

1025
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: Okay, this is from Emma.

1026
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: We already ran Emmas.

1027
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: This is a different Emma. Okay, wait it was there

1028
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: another Emma?

1029
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh you really do have a name Bland Okay.

1030
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 1: Subject line oh wait, okay, okay, subject line jen Alpha

1031
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: cooked Okay, hello, I have started working as a para

1032
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 1: and after only two and a half months, I'm going

1033
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: back to lifeguarding like I did in high school. I

1034
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: am twenty five years old, and by god, have things

1035
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: changed in classrooms. I don't know what has happened to

1036
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 1: the public education system, but now kids run the classroom.

1037
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: A teacher will be giving a lesson while a kid

1038
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: is doing Fortnite Dances in the corner. Yeah, everyone is talking,

1039
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: and another kid will be going, shut the fuck up, bitch.

1040
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1041
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: Okay, but all a teacher can really do is be like,

1042
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: we need to make better choices. Friends. I genuinely think

1043
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: this generation is doomed. I know I'm repeating the generational

1044
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: cycle of having a negative outlook on the succeeding generation,

1045
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: but I feel like it is very valid. I have

1046
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: really bad insomnia, and I can't even feel relaxed when

1047
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: I take my ambient anymore. I'm glad I'm leaving, but

1048
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: at the same time, I feel kind of bad. I'm

1049
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: always switching from one job to the next. I fear

1050
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: I may never attain a steady job anyway. I hope

1051
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: you are having a good day. Wow, Wait, what's a

1052
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: para para. What she just wrote, I have started working

1053
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: as a para paralegal. Maybe I assume whatever this she's working,

1054
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: I assume whatever she's doing is at a school, is

1055
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: at a school. But then she says she's a lifeguarden.

1056
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: But whatever she's doing, she has some experience being in

1057
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: a school. Uh.

1058
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think the kids are cooked.

1059
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: But I think I think phones and iPads have ruined us.

1060
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: But when you think about it, right, like we like,

1061
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: I think the short form video brain rot is kind

1062
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: of new, but like we grew up with our own

1063
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: version of this stuff. You know, we grew up with

1064
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: like face Book and Snapchat, and like we had our

1065
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: phones with us in school. We did all this shit.

1066
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: I mean, you're younger than me, but I mean I

1067
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 2: when I was in middle school, all I had was

1068
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: a flip phone because that's what was around. And I

1069
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: didn't get like an iPhone, I guess really until I

1070
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 2: was in the middle of the end of high school.

1071
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 2: And Snapchat was big towards the end of high school

1072
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 2: for me, and Instagram was like kind of like sophomore

1073
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 2: year of high school. So when I I mean I

1074
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: was in middle school in two thousand and seven, we

1075
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: didn't have iPads. iPads weren't around, and at school you

1076
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 2: didn't bring laptops. You didn't have iPads, And there weren't memes.

1077
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: There were totally means in two thousand and seven were

1078
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: totally means In two thousand and seven.

1079
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: There were not memes. In two thousand and seven, maybe

1080
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 2: there were, but I if there were memes, it wasn't

1081
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: like now with like fucking Daniel the White Vans or

1082
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 2: whatever that thing is.

1083
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just outing my there's a shit. There's

1084
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: shit like that, like the.

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Speaker 2: Six seven thing. I don't really get it, but like

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00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: apparently it's ruining teachers and parents' lives.

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Speaker 1: No, but we had we had things like that.

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00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: But you're younger than me, so you had like what

1089
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: you felt like you had it younger because you don't like.

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00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: You remember like I'm trying to give like specific examples,

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00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: but like I don't know, there was like flash mobs

1092
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: and like the Harlem shake and uh that's what she said,

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00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: and what like there's like shit like this has.

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00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 2: Been and for Yeah, but that's like brain rot. It's

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00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: maybe it's maybe it's like the first version of brain rot.

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00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: But this is like real brain, Like the kids these

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00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: days have real brain fucking rot.

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Speaker 1: You know what. I you know, I was thinking about

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00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: this kind of actually made me happy to think about.

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00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: Is we do you I don't know if I talked

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00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: about this on the podcast started, but uh, do you do?

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00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: You do? You know? Do you remember the meme when

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00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: the Minions movie came out of kids like dressing up

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00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: in suits to go to the Minions movie? Did you

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00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: see that?

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00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 2: No? But that's really funny.

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00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: It's really fun I saw that and I was like,

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00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: that's exactly something that me and my friends would have

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00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: done in middle school. And it's nice to see. I

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00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: don't know, I was just say it made me have

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00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: like that's something me and my friends would have done

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00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: in middle school. And I'm like, I don't think that

1113
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: these kids are that different from like.

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00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 2: I don't that different.

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00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: What scares the things that the things that's.

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00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 2: Spokes social media is really.

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00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: The thing that spooks me is that like and you know,

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00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: I when I was when I was like I mean

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00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: even before middle school, like when I was like in

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00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: elementary school, I would make these little YouTube videos. I

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00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: made a video once where like I blamed nine to

1122
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: eleven on Mickey Mouse's and you used to used to

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00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: make videos with your friends too, but like we we

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00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: made them, and we made them when we upload them

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00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: on YouTube. But like the way that short form video

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00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: works is like you can be fucking around and have

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00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: like a million people see it in like a way

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00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: that is different from like the YouTube of owl that

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00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 1: spooks me. There's this Instagram channel called like, uh, gossip

1130
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: of I don't know exactly what it's called, but I

1131
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 1: would make it up. It's like gossip of Frederick High School.

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Speaker 2: That's I mean we had when I was in college,

1133
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: there was yik yak r.

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00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: Do you.

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00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 2: Like people would spread rumors about other people. I mean Georgia.

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00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 2: I went to EGA, and Georgia was too big for

1137
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 2: it to like really make any difference to anybody. But yeah,

1138
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: now now like Gossip of Frederick High School or whatever

1139
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 2: it is, that shit is pernicious.

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00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: There's and these these kids are like you like the

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00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: Gossip of Frederick High School whatever it is. It says like,

1142
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: h like the kids are using AI to make these

1143
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: like high production value videos of being like what teachers

1144
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: are totally cooked. And then it's like, you know, mister

1145
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: Bernstein and it's like his school photo that like has

1146
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: like evil like devil horns or whatever the fuck, and

1147
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: it's like nobody can do anything about this.

1148
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 2: We're doomed as a society. AI is ruining all of

1149
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: our media literacy.

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00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: We were but we were doing shitty. We were doing

1151
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: things like that, but it was less.

1152
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: It seemed less insidious when we were doing it back

1153
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 2: in the day. But now it's like it feels more

1154
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: insidious because it's more everywhere, like things wouldn't go viral

1155
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 2: or things whenn't really be that spread back in two

1156
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: thousand and seven, but in two thousand and five twenty

1157
00:57:58,640 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: five people are.

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00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: Just I think it's just about like you're inherently a

1159
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:03,919
Speaker 1: dick when you're fourteen. I was on the train.

1160
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 2: You are inherently a dick when you're fourteen. That was sure.

1161
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: I was on the train yesterday. I don't know why

1162
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this. If I have kids, I'd

1163
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: like I think i'd like to have kids. If I

1164
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: have a kid, I'm gonna at some point, like when

1165
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: they're like ten or whatever, I'm gonna sit them down.

1166
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to be like, I need you to know

1167
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: that the one the one thing that you will regret

1168
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: is the times that you were a dick to people, Okay,

1169
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: because I think about things I did or said to

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00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: people when I was like in high school and middle school. Yeah,

1171
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: and I feel like I feel a strong sense of like, oh,

1172
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: that was a dick thing too.

1173
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 2: I think more about like the embarrassing moment, like like

1174
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 2: me not having real consciousness. Wow, I'm really sady. We're

1175
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 2: gonna get into a really good conversation, but I'm already

1176
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: tied minutes late for a meeting. Oh you are, okay,

1177
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: but I decided that I wanted to stay on with

1178
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: my brother and talk about how jen Alfa is cooked.

1179
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: Sentence on this is that I think every generation. I

1180
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: think Emma said it right, every generation just shits on

1181
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 2: the other ones. You know, you're gen Z, I'm millennial.

1182
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like millennial gen Z cusp. And you know,

1183
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 2: we're always going to think that everybody younger than us

1184
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 2: is dumb and stupid. And I think that's just kind

1185
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: of how it goes sometimes.

1186
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Speaker 1: Claire, thank you very much for joining us on the

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00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,919
Speaker 1: Therapy podcast. Is there anything else you want to say

1188
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before you go.

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Speaker 2: I would like to say I would love for people

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00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 2: to weigh in on our conversation about your looks.

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00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, please please write in thought so you think.

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00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would love everybody to have a happy

1193
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving and spend time with people that you care about,

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00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 2: whoever those people are, and while and I will be

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00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 2: spending a lot of time together this week. Beautiful And

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Speaker 2: that's all she wrote.

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Speaker 1: Well, thanks for being here, Chloe. We're going to take

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Speaker 1: a quick break and then I will be back to

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Speaker 1: read a few more emails. Gek bless everyone, gack bless,

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01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: and we're back and it's just me. My sister is gone. Well,

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01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: she's in a different room than me. She's still on

1202
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: the planet. That was nice. I liked that. I like

1203
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: having another person to do these calls and emails with.

1204
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: I want to have more guests on the show, folks.

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01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: If you have ideas, if you have people that you

1206
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: want to see who are just out in the zeitgeist

1207
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: of the Internet that you think would be good guests

1208
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: for this show, let me know in the Spotify comments

1209
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: or send me an email or a DM or whatever.

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01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: If you have anyone who you think would be a

1211
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: fun guest for this podcast. I'm going to try to

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01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: have more guests and reach out to more people, just

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01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: so I don't have to be alone, you know, just

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01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: so I don't have to be alone. I don't mind

1215
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: it though. Okay, all right, let's look at some more emails,

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Speaker 1: shall we. This is from Melissa, subject line compassion burnout. Hi, Gek,

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01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: I am a longtime listener and fan of the podcast.

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01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: I think what you do is incredible and I recommend

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01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: your podcast to all my friends. Thank you, Melissa. That's

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01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: very sweet. I recently have been dealing with a lot

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Speaker 1: of compassion burnout. I didn't know what that meant until

1222
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: my coworker told me there's a label for how I'm feeling.

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01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: I work in the dog grooming industry, and my job

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01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: requires a lot of patience. I mean, what dog have

1225
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: you met that likes taking a bath? In my field

1226
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: of work, I deal with a lot of people who

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01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: bring their dogs to me in really rough shape, often

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01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: needing to be stripped of extremely matted coats, or dealing

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01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: with skin conditions and other issues caused by neglectful pet parents.

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01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: I am asked daily to do impossible tasks to groom

1231
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: dog with extreme behavior issues and groom puppies start to

1232
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: finish with impossible time constraints. I have been feeling like

1233
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: my patience is running thin with both people and animals.

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01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: I pride myself on my ability to be patient and

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01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: kind and to treat every animal I work with with

1236
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: respect and compassion, But being overloaded with work in a

1237
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: corporate salon has left me drained. I don't have the

1238
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: patience anymore for a job I once loved. I feel

1239
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: like people who work in similar jobs, even healthcare, hospitality,

1240
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: and education, can relate. And I want to say that

1241
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 1: compassion burnout is real. Maybe you have felt this way, Gek,

1242
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: I am wondering if you have any advice. What does

1243
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: self care look like for you? When you have a

1244
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,919
Speaker 1: free day to just be yourself? What does that look like? Gek?

1245
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: Bless thank you for your time. So here's kind of

1246
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: my thought process on this. And I'm about to say

1247
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of bullshit. And all this bullshit I'm saying

1248
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: is not things that I've mastered, but it's things I'd

1249
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: like to master. It's things i'd like to think, I'd

1250
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: like to ascribe to. So basically, I think at a

1251
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: certain point, no matter how awesome you are, you know,

1252
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: or how awesome you want to be, you just can't,

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01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You just can't. And I

1254
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: used to want to be the awesomest guy and respond

1255
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: to everyone with extreme kindness and amazingness, and and I

1256
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: wanted every interaction that everyone ever had with me to

1257
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: be positive, and I wanted them to go back to

1258
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: their friends and be like, oh, I spoke to the

1259
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,439
Speaker 1: therapy gecko. He was amazing. He's such a great guy.

1260
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: But you just can't. You just can't do You just

1261
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: can't do it. And the sooner you realize that as

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01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: a human being going through the world, even as a

1263
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: human being going through the world with like good intentions,

1264
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna piss someone off. You're just gonna do it.

1265
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: You're just gonna piss people off. You're gonna not be

1266
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: amazing one hundred percent of the time. And I've accepted that.

1267
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: I've just accepted it. I'm like, I might have an

1268
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: interaction with someone where they walk away being like that

1269
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: guy was kind of a dick, and in return I

1270
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: have my sanity sort of, you know what I mean.

1271
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: I think the concept of like setting yourself on fire

1272
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: to warm everyone else is a real thing, and you

1273
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: just can't do it. I don't. I don't make a

1274
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: withdrawal when there are insufficient funds anymore. I used to,

1275
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: but I and and and this is why I gave

1276
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: the disclaimer in the beginning, because I'm sure I still

1277
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: do in a lot of ways withdrawal when there's in

1278
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: sufficient funds. But lately I've gotten better at being like, oh,

1279
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: there's insufficient funds here, I can't be the kind of

1280
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 1: person that I want to be right now. And I

1281
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: that used to send me in a big fucking spiral,

1282
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: because I think when I get burnt out or when

1283
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: I when I lose all my energy, I think it's permanent.

1284
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, I'm like this forever shit. But

1285
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: it's not. It's just part of a cycle. And so

1286
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: I try to be compassionate to myself and understand when

1287
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,919
Speaker 1: I just don't have it and it's gonna be you'll

1288
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: piss people off, and that's okay. It's okay. It's okay

1289
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: if you pissed some people off. You know, if you're

1290
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 1: in some if you're in a gig where you're working

1291
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: with a lot of different people, you can like try

1292
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: your best to make it so that as many people

1293
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: as possible have positive interactions with you, But you can

1294
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: never ever make it. Someone's always gonna be pissed off

1295
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Speaker 1: about about something, so you know, that's that's what I

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01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: would say. My advice is try your best, but when

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01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: you see there's insufficient funds, just accept it. Accept it

1298
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: because there's no point in like, uh, like, there's a

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01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: lot of times, for example, where I try I sit

1300
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: down and I try to record this podcast. This happens

1301
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: to me all the time. This happened to me last night.

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01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,959
Speaker 1: This is the reason why we're doing a get mail

1303
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 1: today is because I tried to record this podcast last

1304
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: night and this guy got up and I'm gonna tell

1305
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: you something that happens to me all the time, and

1306
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 1: it's the fucking worst thing. It's the fucking worst Like

1307
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: somebody like I'll be in the suit and I'll be

1308
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: courting the show and it's just I can just tell

1309
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: it's one of those days maybe like the sun is

1310
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: out and I'm hot and the makeup is like staining

1311
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: on my face and I'm and I'm just like was

1312
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: pissed off about something else earlier in the day, and

1313
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm just not there. And someone's talking to me, and

1314
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: I can tell, and I don't mean to be a whatever.

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01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: Someone's talking to me and I can tell. I mean,

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01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: you guys know how to Like. Someone's talking to me,

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01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: and I can tell they're really excited to be on

1318
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: the show. They're like really excited to talk and they

1319
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: and they've listened to the show. And I'm like, fuck, man,

1320
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: this guy's like listened to hours of me talk and

1321
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: like is really excited to be here, and and it's

1322
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: really excited to talk to me. And I'm just like, fuck,

1323
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: I just know I feel it in my gut that

1324
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 1: I cannot provide the therapy gecko experience that this person

1325
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 1: uh is excited for And that's the fuck. And then

1326
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: and they're also they're being so nice to me, and

1327
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's just it's the fucking worst. Not that

1328
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 1: they're being nice to me, but it's the fucking worst

1329
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: when I look into my brain and I'm like, fuck,

1330
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: there's insufficient funds for me to be the kind of

1331
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 1: person that I want to be for this person right now,

1332
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 1: Like I just can't do it. It's the worst. It's

1333
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 1: like a helpless feeling. But and I used to be

1334
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: and I and then they get off the and then

1335
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: I this happened yesterday, Like someone calls in, I just

1336
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: can't do it. And then I can tell that they

1337
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: hang out. I can tell they hang up and they're like, wow,

1338
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 1: that was kind of disappointing, and I can tell that

1339
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: they feel bad. And you know, I used to really

1340
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 1: beat myself up about it. I used to and I

1341
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: still do sometimes, but I used to really beat myself

1342
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: up about it, like thinking about this person, like being

1343
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 1: disappointed and especially considering how much they gave me in

1344
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 1: terms of like, uh, you know, their time and their enthusiasm.

1345
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: But what am I going to do? There's insufficient funds

1346
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 1: in the bank for energy. I can't make myself more

1347
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 1: than what I am at any given moment. And I

1348
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: don't know if I believe in like powering through that ship,

1349
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: because it's it's worthless, because what's that your work is

1350
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 1: Like when you try to power through burnout, your work

1351
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: is going to be bad. Uh, it's grooming dogs as

1352
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: maybe a different thing from like recording something. But like

1353
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: I think in general, you you're judged more by like

1354
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: the quality of your interactions and the quality of your

1355
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 1: work and whatnot more than you are the quantity of it,

1356
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 1: at least, I guess in in certain fields. And so

1357
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: if the quality of the work that you're doing is

1358
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: going to be shit because you have insufficient funds in

1359
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 1: the energy bank, then what's the what's the point of

1360
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 1: power through? I think it's stupid. So I just I've

1361
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 1: just learned to accept that this. I'm gonna be shitty

1362
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: in that situation. So I don't know if that's how

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01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: I don't that's my perspective on this, Melissa. Uh, when

1364
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 1: I have a free day to just be myself, I

1365
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: don't believe in free days, not even in like a

1366
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 1: productivity bro thing. I'm just like, man, it's all just

1367
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: one life. It's one timeline. I don't know, it's they're

1368
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: all free days technically, you know. Anyway, all right, let's

1369
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:52,959
Speaker 1: continue on. Let's continue on. Thank you for sending sending that, Melissa.

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01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: Let's do one or two more? Shall we?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: All right? This is from all Right. This is from

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01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 1: Slayer of God's subject line Into the Wild. I grew

1374
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 1: up in the suburbs, and I've lived a pretty average life.

1375
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: Ever since watching your video with the train hopper, I've

1376
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 1: become obsessed with the idea of just disappearing. Dude, shout

1377
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 1: out the train Hopper, Orion and trip Steve Stephen. I'm

1378
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 1: not really good with names, but I think his name

1379
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 1: is Stephen or Steve. Hold on. I got to make

1380
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: sure his name is fucking Steve, because I'm pretty sure

1381
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,440
Speaker 1: it is, and he's He's a true legend of this podcast.

1382
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: I want to I want to get his name right.

1383
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 1: I'm pretty fucking sure with Steve. Steven. Yeah, September twenty seventh, Yeah, okay, yeah, Steven,

1384
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 1: there it is, Yes Steven. If you haven't already, go

1385
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:00,679
Speaker 1: listen to I hopped trains for twelve years. That's probably

1386
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: the best episode of this podcast that we've recorded. Anyway,

1387
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: Ever since watching your video with the train Hopper, I've

1388
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 1: become obsessed with the idea of just disappearing, going to

1389
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: really live and experience stuff. I realize that when I

1390
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: come back, my problems will still be waiting for me,

1391
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: and I realize that it isn't really freedom. It's a

1392
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: good adventure, but not a good life, and all that

1393
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 1: I want to do it despite I crave this feeling

1394
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 1: of survival and adventure. I'm curious what you mean by survival.

1395
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,480
Speaker 1: But I found out about a man named Christopher McCandless

1396
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 1: aka Alexander Supertramp. Yes, I'm very familiar with this guy's story.

1397
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: There's a book and a movie about him called Into

1398
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,759
Speaker 1: the Wild. He pretty much decided to adventure all across

1399
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: America until he died in a bus in Alaska. That's

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01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 1: the short story. Highly suggest you watch it. I don't

1401
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 1: know if I've ever seen the movie, but I have read.

1402
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm very familiar with Christopher McCandless his whole deal. There

1403
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 1: are many different interpretations of it. Here's mine. It is

1404
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 1: not a cautionary tale. Christopher McCandless is the result of

1405
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 1: a system that does not allow people to live as

1406
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 1: they free, live as they free. I guess he means

1407
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: live free. Okay, long story shot on Christopher Candless. Yeah,

1408
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 1: he's a guy who basically was like, I'm gonna leave

1409
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 1: everything behind and I'm gonna go live in the woods

1410
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna survive and leave society. And he died

1411
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: pretty fast after doing that, I think by eating like

1412
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 1: some poisonous berries, and a lot of people think that

1413
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:41,480
Speaker 1: he was an idiot like that, he essentially just committed suicide.

1414
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: That's what a lot of people think. And then a

1415
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: lot of people think, well, no, he's a this in

1416
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 1: the email says he's a martyr. That's what this emailer says,

1417
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: that he's a martyr, And a lot of people think

1418
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 1: that he's a martyr, and that he's basically like a

1419
01:13:55,400 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 1: you know, died for the cause of proving the ills

1420
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 1: of society, I suppose. And yeah, there's a lot of

1421
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: interpretations of it. Personally, I don't know. I don't know

1422
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: right because it was it was a little bit of

1423
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 1: a throw caution to the wind and let's see what's

1424
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: up kind of a thing. But hmm, Okay, I'm gonna

1425
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 1: keep reading an email. I'm not saying go die in

1426
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: the woods. I'm saying our lives are dictated by fake rules.

1427
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: You've got one shot of this, so do with it

1428
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: as you please. Every time I hear a train horn,

1429
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 1: I think about running away and seeing where it takes me.

1430
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 1: This thought eats at the back of my head. That's

1431
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: the whole email. Okay, well, I'm gonna speak directly to

1432
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 1: this emailer. Listen, man, Okay, the whole thing of like

1433
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 1: I lived in the suburbs, I've lived in an average life.

1434
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 1: I've become obsessed with the idea of just disappearing. I

1435
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: gonna tell you something, my friend is, in my opinion,

1436
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: you're thinking about this from like crazy extremes, very unnecessarily,

1437
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 1: like my friend go on a trip, you know what

1438
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: I mean? Does it have to be Does it have

1439
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: to be work a nine to five job in the

1440
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 1: suburbs or be homeless in the woods. Did those have

1441
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 1: to be the only two options?

1442
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 3: You know?

1443
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: Uh, Go go on a trip, go on an adventure.

1444
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: I highly recommend going on an adventure. I mean, we

1445
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: talked about this earlier in the podcast when Chloe was

1446
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 1: on here. I remember every adventure I've had in my life,

1447
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: whether the therapy gecko tours or trips I took to

1448
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: foreign countries to do shit, or things I was doing

1449
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: before the Gecko's stuff. I remember all of them, and

1450
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: I treasure all those memories. I really do. So I

1451
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: recommend doing it. If you've never done some shit like

1452
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: that before, go on adventure. And and it doesn't even

1453
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 1: like the fucking Brussels guy. Doesn't even have to be

1454
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: something grand. It can just be a big walk across

1455
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 1: or headchhike across the place you live in, right, And

1456
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 1: then the thing about it's a good adventure but not

1457
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 1: a good life. I've experienced that too, and I kind

1458
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: of again oscillate between really craving a domestic life and

1459
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 1: really craving adventure. And the thing this emailer said about

1460
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: our lives are dictated by fake rules, well, I don't.

1461
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: I think it's a different I think you've got a

1462
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 1: different interpretation of it. I don't think the rules that

1463
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 1: we live by as a society are fake necessary. I

1464
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: mean they're I mean, yeah, they're like they're a consensus, right,

1465
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 1: and you're an individual, you can search for your own

1466
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: truth instead of searching for instead of abiding by the consensus.

1467
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: But a lot of the times the consensus is a

1468
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 1: consensus for our reason. You know, like we've reached a

1469
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 1: consensus that you should not kill other people, and if

1470
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 1: you do, you will go to a place where you

1471
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 1: can't be in society anymore, and you become a warden

1472
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 1: of the state. And you know, maybe you think we

1473
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 1: should be able to kill people, and you believe that

1474
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 1: that's a fake rule, and and you know, look, you

1475
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: can do that. You can go and kill people. You're

1476
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: probably not You're probably gonna go to jail or whatever.

1477
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. If you if that's your philosophical belief

1478
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 1: that you should kill people, then you know, you can

1479
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,799
Speaker 1: believe that that's a fake that can be your truth,

1480
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 1: but you but we live amongst each other on the planet,

1481
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: so we come to consensus on fake rules. And I

1482
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 1: guess short, Yeah, one of the rules that you're thinking

1483
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 1: of is like, we need money to survive, and we

1484
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 1: need this and that and the other thing. And if

1485
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: you really want to get by without money and you

1486
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: want to go into the woods and survive, you can

1487
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: do that, but you can't have a fucking hard time.

1488
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 1: That's why we'ven that's why we've reached the consensus on

1489
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 1: a lot of the things that we have. I'm a

1490
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 1: big believer in like questioning the kind of like supposed

1491
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: to's of life. And I'm a big believer in, like

1492
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: I trying to find alternative viewpoints to the things that

1493
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 1: we are told that we have to do, and all

1494
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 1: all that stuff. All that stuff is great, But I'm

1495
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 1: also a big believer of, like you know, I'll meet

1496
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 1: like a sixty six year old boomer who did everything

1497
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 1: the way you're supposed to and he's got his money

1498
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: and he plays golf and he's got he makes smoothies

1499
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 1: with the thing, and he seems pretty happy. So I

1500
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 1: don't know. Look, you can follow the rules of society

1501
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 1: whatever that means to you and end up being like,

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01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: oh okay, I kind of like these rules. I like

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01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 1: having bananas on my shelf, you know, I like having

1504
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: I like that I go to an office and I

1505
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 1: have coworkers that are around me, and I like the

1506
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 1: routine and I like the stability. That might not be

1507
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 1: for you, or maybe you can have a combat. I've

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01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: I've kind of in my life developed a bit of

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01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 1: a thing where I have a bit of a I

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01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 1: have a combination of the two, and I really kind

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01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: of meticulously worked to have a combination of those two things.

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01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 1: And I feel like I've gotten to see the value

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01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 1: of going to an office every day and drinking coffee

1514
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, having at least one spoon. But

1515
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 1: I also see the value and being like fuck all

1516
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 1: this shit, and you know, going to you know, disappear

1517
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: for a little bit because you'll get lonely. Man Like

1518
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,680
Speaker 1: you can travel, travel all over the place and make

1519
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 1: those memories, but you'll get fucking lonely, and you need

1520
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 1: to have a sort of domestic ish routine that lets

1521
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 1: you be around other people or else you know, you'll

1522
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:13,600
Speaker 1: get lonely and die in the woods. I don't have

1523
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: a joke for this, and maybe do I need. I

1524
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 1: don't know if I need more jokes. I think I'm

1525
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 1: gonna just keep talking. Every time I try to make

1526
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 1: a joke, it sucks. I like the I like, just

1527
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:30,759
Speaker 1: we're gonna arrive at humor naturally, he said. This thought

1528
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 1: eats to the back of my head. Just go on

1529
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 1: a trip, man. You don't have to disappear. Just go

1530
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 1: for a week. You don't have to I like, I

1531
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:42,560
Speaker 1: don't like. I really don't like seeing these Like I

1532
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 1: think people get really caught up in these like extreme

1533
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 1: binaries when it's like, brother, just because you have the

1534
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 1: reason you're caught up in this binaries, because you have

1535
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: this like fantasy of what it's like to disappear. But

1536
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,679
Speaker 1: your fantasy is worth diarrhea. It's nothing. So go out

1537
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 1: and do it for like a little bit, and then

1538
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 1: you'll see what it's actually like. And then you'll come

1539
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,600
Speaker 1: back and then you're gonna fantasize about what it was.

1540
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna look back on what your actual experience was

1541
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 1: in a fantasy way, and then it's just a repeating cycle.

1542
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 1: That's That's how I've experienced a lot of this stuff. Okay,

1543
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 1: let's do let's do like one more. Okay, security alert,

1544
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: there's been a new sign into your Gmail account. We'll

1545
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 1: deal with that later. Okay. This is from Gino, subject

1546
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 1: line seasonal slash holiday candy. Dear Gek, I have a

1547
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 1: topic on my mind. I know you definitely are gonna

1548
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 1: have a response to. Mainly, what's been on my mind

1549
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 1: has been the seasonal caramel Apple Turtles. Those things are

1550
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 1: fucking badass and I want and need more, but they

1551
01:21:56,160 --> 01:22:00,719
Speaker 1: only stocked them during Christmas time. I discovered them while

1552
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:04,719
Speaker 1: stalking the seasonal area of my Walmart at two am,

1553
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 1: and they changed my life. They taste like a regular

1554
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: turtle mixed with Crown Apple. I'm hoping that they stock

1555
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,720
Speaker 1: them again next Christmas. If they don't, I don't know

1556
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: how to feel about having had such a delectable treat

1557
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: I can never get again. They're more seasonal candies that

1558
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 1: are pretty bombed, like the Holiday Punch, Sweet tart Ropes

1559
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 1: and the SpongeBob Gummy crabby patties. Wait, that's not that's

1560
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 1: not SpongeBob Grommy private patties are not seasonal. Also, I

1561
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 1: don't know why people like them. I think they taste

1562
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 1: like shit. They taste like eating a fucking robbery racer.

1563
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:42,759
Speaker 1: Number one though, for me, is the caramel Apple Turtles.

1564
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:44,679
Speaker 1: I'll be waiting for them and hoping they come back now.

1565
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 1: I hope you have a good day. I'm gonna get

1566
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 1: my lazy ass back to work now. Sincerely, whatever name

1567
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: you choose to give me, well, I gave you the

1568
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 1: name Gino, so I guess that'll be your name. I'm

1569
01:22:54,720 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 1: gonna look this up. Caramel Apple Turtles. Are they? What

1570
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 1: brand is this?

1571
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 2: Ooh?

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01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 1: Fuck shit? Demets turtles? Caramel Apple That looks awesome. Okay, yeah,

1573
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 1: they're at Walmart. I think you could just get them online, man, Yeah,

1574
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: you can get them on Amazon. Look at that. Oh

1575
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: there's only two left in stock. Holy shit. Okay, yeah,

1576
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 1: you can just buy them on Amazon. Brother milk chocolate

1577
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: pecan caramel Apple. That looks awesome. I really can't. You know.

1578
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 1: The thing is is, I mean, I love this kind

1579
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 1: of stuff. You guys know, me. I love candies a lot.

1580
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 1: I've been working on trying to not be doing all that,

1581
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 1: but fuck, man, fuck, sometimes it just feels like the

1582
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: meaning of like, if I go too long without eating candy,

1583
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:50,799
Speaker 1: I start to be like, I know, I really start

1584
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 1: to be like, I don't think there's a point of

1585
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 1: living if I can't have a little bit of candy

1586
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: now and then maybe that's bad, but that's just my reality.

1587
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,799
Speaker 1: These look so good. I bet there is two hundred

1588
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 1: calories in every one of these milk chocolate, pecan, caramel,

1589
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 1: apple turtle bites. I bet it's always worth it. I

1590
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 1: this is unrelated. I have a hack for you guys.

1591
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 1: This is an endorse I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna

1592
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 1: give a free I know, I know that there's a

1593
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,799
Speaker 1: lot of ads on the podcast. I lowered the limit.

1594
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 1: I lowered the amount of ads, so there will be

1595
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 1: less ads. Thank you for bearing with me on the ads.

1596
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna do an ad. I'm gonna do a

1597
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 1: free ad of my own volition. I since I hereby

1598
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 1: endorse Almond Breeze Eggnog for the holiday season. There's a

1599
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 1: free endorsement because I love egnog, so much. It's the

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01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 1: most unreasonable substance that exists on the planet. I think

1601
01:24:56,760 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: there's there's about a thousand calories in every sip and

1602
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,719
Speaker 1: it's just not real. It's just not You can't drink

1603
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 1: it unless if you're really giving up, and it's the

1604
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 1: most delicious thing on the planet. Uh, Almond Breeze came

1605
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 1: up with this like almond milk eggnog where you can

1606
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: like really drink a full glass of it and it's

1607
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 1: not and it's I don't know what the what's the

1608
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: calorie content Almond Breeze egg eggnog, Almond Breeze eggnog. It's

1609
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: got like seventy calories a cup. That's like incredible. So

1610
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: I've been I've been really slamming that stuff down because, yeah,

1611
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:46,760
Speaker 1: regular eggnog is just not you can't do it or

1612
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 1: else you're you're gonna you can gain like ten pounds

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01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 1: off of just one carton of eggnog. It's so good.

1614
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 1: You know what I hate about this is the thing

1615
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 1: I hate about like being like if like a fatter guy,

1616
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 1: is that, Uh, I have all these things I love,

1617
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 1: like eggnog and candy corn and whatnot, and I really

1618
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: it's like gambling or something where it's like they they

1619
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 1: really are getting most of their income from a small

1620
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 1: percentage of folks like me who are eating this stuff.

1621
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: And there's nobody else to commiserate with, because anytime I

1622
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 1: bring up eggnog, people are like disgusted by it. People

1623
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:35,839
Speaker 1: like I don't fucking eat candy corn, I'm fucking eat eggnog,

1624
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 1: or like if egnog comes out, because sometimes people buy

1625
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: eggnog and they have it a functions. No one drinks it.

1626
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:46,759
Speaker 1: It's just festive and somebody will have like a little

1627
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 1: shot of eggnog and be like it's too sweet for me, dude,

1628
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 1: fuck you, I don't know what that means. I'll just

1629
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 1: you know, down a whole cup or a cartony, and

1630
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: then I'll pour an other one for you know what.

1631
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:03,719
Speaker 1: It's a whole cart and gone. But yeah, the almond

1632
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 1: milk version is pretty good. I don't know if this

1633
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 1: made for good podcast material, but I'm glad I got

1634
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 1: it out there, and I'm hoping that you get your

1635
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:16,480
Speaker 1: turtles gino.

1636
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 2: All right.

1637
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 1: I think this was the therapy getto Thanksgiving, Halloween, Christmas

1638
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 1: special whatever it was. Thank you again to my sister

1639
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 1: Chloe for coming on. Let me know again in like

1640
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 1: whatever Instagram, DMS or email or whatever it is, who

1641
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,600
Speaker 1: who you want to see on as a guest on

1642
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 1: the Therapy g Ecko podcast. Thank you guys for listening.

1643
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 1: Have a good Thanksgiving, have a good holiday season. I'll

1644
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 1: be back with another episode on Sunday. And that's it.

1645
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 1: Oh yes, go to Therapy Gecko Tour dot com. I'm

1646
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 1: going on a tour in twenty twenty six. I'm a

1647
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: hundred percent hitting a bunch of places on the West

1648
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: Coast first. Uh So, if you live on the West

1649
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 1: coast of the US, if you live anywhere on the planet,

1650
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 1: go to Therapy Gecko Tour dot com and give me

1651
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 1: your phone number so I can text you. I don't

1652
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 1: spam people's text I don't like to do this, so

1653
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: you'll only hear from me if I'm coming to your town.

1654
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 1: Uh and I want to do it. I'm gonna do

1655
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of shows in twenty twenty six of me

1656
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: telling stories and doing a little bit of yeah, a

1657
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 1: little bit of storytelling, a little bit of therapy geckoing.

1658
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 1: So please go to therapy get Go tour dot com

1659
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 1: and give me your phone number, slash email so I

1660
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 1: can let you know when I'm coming to your town

1661
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 1: and aside from that, get bless see you guys around

1662
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 1: the universe. Thank you very much.

1663
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 3: Again, it goes on the line. Thank you your phone

1664
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 3: calls every nine everything goes I do teaching line.

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Speaker 1: Thanks