1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Can if I am six forty you're listening to the 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: John and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Ken is Way today one to four live on the 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: radio our show, and then after four o'clock you could 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: hear it as a podcast. Johnny Cannon demand, same show, 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: just pick up all the parts that you missed, or 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: hear everything all over again. Well, we're just calculating that 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: if in order to remember the Menendez brother's murder back 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty nine, to have any kind of a 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: real memory of it, you got to be somewhere between 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: what probably forty five years old. They got convicted. They 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: were tried twice in the nineties, both convicted. The Menedda's 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: brothers are now in their fifties. They were teenagers who 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: were they say, sexually abused by their father, Jose, and 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: eventually they killed Jose and their mother Kiddy, and they 16 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: claimed sexual abuses of defense, not that they didn't do it, 17 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: but that they were pushed into it and they feared 18 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: for their lives. But the second jury didn't buy it, 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: and so they've been sitting in prison ever since. Now 20 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: they claim they've got evidence that chose the the extent 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: of their fear the extent of the sexual abuse. And 22 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: they have Mark Arragos now on the case as their attorney. 23 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: So let's get Gara go's on here. 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: Mark, How are you wonderful? How about you? Why you're 25 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 2: flying solo on a Friday? Can just dig dog ditch you? 26 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: Ken has joined the legions of people who don't work 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: on Friday, at least for this week. 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: I thought that was only in Rhode Island, but apparently 29 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: it's made its way to California. Yeah. 30 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: I know, nobody wants to show up anymore, but this case, 31 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: we know this case well from way back. What is 32 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: the new evidence that you and Eric and Lyle have 33 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: that his grounds to reopen the case? 34 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting in your recitation of the facts, you 35 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: were pretty good. There was two trials. The first jury 36 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: heard the evidence, they testified. There were other people who testified, 37 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: including the aunt and the jury. Half of the jurors 38 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: found that they were not guilty of the murder they 39 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: were basically held was on during the trade murder of manslaughter. 40 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: After that trial, this trial was declared. After that trial, 41 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: the usual event happened in California. The people were very 42 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: upset about which was the acquittal of OJ Simpson. Eight 43 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: days after that, all of a sudden, the DA's office, 44 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: you might remember, Jill Garcetti was the DA. Then he 45 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: assigned somebody who was rumored to be his competitor to 46 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: run against him for DA David Kah to retry them 47 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: in others, and they did, and miraculously, for the DA's office, 48 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 2: all of the evidence of abuse was excluded. The evidence 49 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: that the jury, the first jury heard was not played 50 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,839 Speaker 2: for them, or was not They didn't get to hear 51 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: the testimony, they didn't get to hear the evidence of 52 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: other witnesses. Nothing. And then to compound batters, David Kahn, 53 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: who was the trial lawyer who tried the second trial, 54 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: then argued in closing argument that there was basically no 55 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: abuse because they hadn't proven it, even though he had 56 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: gotten the judge to exclude it. And they were convicted, 57 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: sentenced to life. As you said, where they've been to 58 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: the last thirty three years. What the new evidence is 59 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: is there is Eric had written a letter prior to 60 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: the killings taking place that to his cousin, the gentleman 61 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: by the name of Cola, and had had told about 62 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: his fear and his desperation and his absolute hole or 63 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: at the fact that his father, this violent predator, was 64 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: raping him and his cousin tragically died and this letter 65 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: was just recently found in his personal effects. You take that, 66 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: that's fun center. We have the letter attachments that in 67 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: grimmitted the rent A Havias Corpus, and then recently there's 68 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: been a documentary that was done and people may remember Menudo, 69 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: the boy band that was under the I think the 70 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: the RCA label. Jose Menendez was the head of the 71 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: RCA label, and they are now one of at least 72 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: one of those members has now assigned a declaration and 73 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: has gone on the record as saying that Jose Menendez 74 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 2: raped him as well. So you combine those two things 75 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: and the position of the abuse that was excluded from 76 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: the second trial, and I think that you would have 77 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: gotten a result that was the saber better as the 78 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: first trial if we had had that evidence on the clone. 79 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: What what was the reason that the evidence of the 80 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: sexual abuse was not admitted into the trial? I assume 81 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: the Menendez attorney would have insisted on it, or is 82 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: there a reason who didn't. 83 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: Correct And I will tell you I remember the case. 84 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 2: I didn't try either one of those trials, but I 85 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: remember as it was happening, and I've also watched it 86 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: just recently. There was a federal argument. Cliff Gardner, of 87 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: my co counsel on the writ argued the appeal in 88 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,799 Speaker 2: the Federal court maybe eighteen years ago, and I recently 89 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: just watched it. It's a fascinating argument because one of 90 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: the justice the judges on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeal, 91 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: one level below the US Supreme Court back in whatever 92 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 2: it was five, he said he basically dismantled the Attorney 93 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: General and pointed out that the only reason that the 94 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 2: evidence was excluded between the first trial of the second 95 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 2: trial was because you had a DA and you had 96 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: a judge that were trying to do basically a makeup 97 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 2: for the OJ acquittal. And that was that's what influenced it, 98 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,119 Speaker 2: because there wouldn't have been any other compelling reason. 99 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: By the way the judge disallowed the judge disallowed the evidence. 100 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: This allowed the evidence, and then a top of it 101 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 3: on top of it allowed the DA to argue that 102 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 3: basically the PU put and say these these were like 103 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: spoiled rich kids who were who just wanted to get 104 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: an inheritance when he knew that that wasn't the case. 105 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: A lot of people, and I'm one of them, might 106 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: not be interested in an excuse for killing Jose Getty Menendez. 107 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: Yes, I understand, but you wouldn't have also been on 108 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 2: the jury. I think that the jurors cared about it, 109 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: or would have cared about it. If you're sworn to 110 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: get on that jury, you should be able to hear 111 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: all the evidence. If somebody told me, I wish I'd 112 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: come up with the one if they were as sisters, 113 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: do you think they'd still be in jail? And the 114 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: answer is unequivocally no. Thirty years has passed, a lot 115 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: of things have changed in our culture, and you know, 116 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: I think also, I think it was Adam Corolla who 117 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: had said this to me. Adam had said, can you 118 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: imagine if you just in the thought experiment and took 119 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: out joseman Endez and just put it substitutent in his 120 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: high school wrestling coach as the one who was the 121 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: sexual predator, and they ended up killing him, do you 122 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: think he'd still be in custody after thirty three years, 123 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: or they would still be in custody. I agree with 124 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: that yeah. 125 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great game to play that you've changed 126 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: the uh, the race, or the sex or the position 127 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: in life of someone, and that that that makes it 128 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: more justified or less justified to kill them. But that's 129 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: not the way the law is written. The laws written 130 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: that the law the. 131 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: Law, the law actually was written that that could that 132 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: their their defense could negate malice if you don't have mouse. 133 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: This wasn't like remember the first jury that heard the evidence, 134 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: It wasn't that they wanted to just acquit or find 135 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: them not guilty. What they were saying is you killed 136 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: the You killed them, But we have to decide was 137 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: this murder or was this manslaughter? And we think that 138 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: your mental state was such that it's manslaughter. If it 139 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: was manslaughter, and half the jury that heard the evidence 140 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: felt that way, then they would not be in thirty 141 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: three years later. 142 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: So you think that maybe the reason the evidence wasn't 143 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: admitted in the second trial, as Garcetti and the judge 144 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: had a deal in order not to have another high 145 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: profile loss after oj I hate to. 146 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 2: Be cynical, but I will I will refer you to 147 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: watch the Ninth Circuit argument and tell me if there's 148 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: any other conclusion you could draw. The Attorney General was 149 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 2: given every you know, because the DA's office is the 150 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 2: one who prosecutes at the trial level, then obviously when 151 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: you go up on appeal, it's the Attorney General who 152 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 2: defends the conviction. The Attorney General was sparring with the 153 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,599 Speaker 2: judges on the night and in the ninth Circuit. I 154 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: would invite, you know, to invite anybody to watch, because 155 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: I think it's fascinating as to the answers or the 156 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: non answers that were given. 157 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: All right, when do you file the case the request 158 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: to refer? 159 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: We filed it, Yeah, we filed it this week. The 160 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: judge you usually hear from a judge within thirty to 161 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: forty five days on a wrint. When I say here 162 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: from them, he can either invite the DA's office to respond, 163 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: he can order them to respond, or he can deny. 164 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: So now in your in your request to reopen the case, 165 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: do you put this this story of of Garcetti and 166 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: the judge? Is that part of the or is it 167 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: just amount the new letter that you. 168 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: Found, and the new letter, the new letter and the 169 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: new allegations of a that are corroborating, corroborate the letter. 170 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: I mean, remember a lot of people were would have 171 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: been not necessarily the first jury, because the first jury 172 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: at least half of them felt like the abuse was 173 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: real and negated Mallae. But you what all they're asking for, 174 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: All I'm asking for is their mouthpiece, so to speak, 175 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: is that they either somebody evaluates us or re evaluates it. 176 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: Explain how now would you've got evidence that is overwhelmingly 177 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: positive that there was abuse. How do you say, oh, 178 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: it's okay, we've kept have been there for thirty three 179 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: years when we excluded their defense. 180 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: All right, Mark, thanks very much for coming on. 181 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: I always love talking to you all. 182 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: Mark Garragos now the attorney for Eric Lyle Menendez, who 183 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: want there? I want another trial because there's now a letter, 184 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: and there's testimony by a former member of Menudo, or 185 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: at least he told a story in the documentary that 186 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: Eric and Lyle's dad, Jose Menendez, who is a record 187 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: company executive, was sexually abused not only to Eric and Lyle, 188 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: but he went after the Menudo kid and that there 189 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: was a letter from one of the Menendez boys that 190 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: they recently found. And we're gonna see if a judge 191 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: gives them, another trial, third trial. More coming up. We 192 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: got something. We got something very tragic and funny coming up. 193 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: And I I think you know I'm not watching it's 194 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: involving an animal. Well, we're just gonna play the audio. 195 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: Check your email, John, Okay, that's next. 196 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kf 197 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 4: I am six forty. 198 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: Ken is away today and you know this is a sad, 199 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: tragic news. It's also funny. We're gonna play you some audio. 200 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: This was a group of homeschooled kids. It was a 201 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: field trip to go to the Woodland Park Zoo in Seattle. 202 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: And they were up, came right up to the retaining 203 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: wall and on the other side of the wall was 204 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: a pond and there was ducks and little ducklings swimming 205 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: in the pond and bear and the pond was in 206 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: the bear enclosure. The pond was in the bear enclosure. 207 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: All right, Oh, I guess, so the ducks were had 208 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: picked that spot to land in. Yeah, I guess the 209 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: intruding I see, so this was like a little swimming 210 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: hole for the bear. And you had in the shot 211 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: you could see the I guess, the mother duck and 212 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: then trailing behind was a little tiny baby duckling and 213 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: spinley legs and it's flapping around trying to a really 214 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: cute little thing. Anyway, the bear sees a little duckling, 215 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: and we'll listen to the audio of the kid's reaction 216 00:13:39,080 --> 00:14:04,479 Speaker 1: and we'll explain the detail if it isn't obvious. 217 00:13:46,880 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 5: That so sad, I canna stop screaming that. 218 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 6: I want to. 219 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: That's the moment. 220 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 6: Such I did not want to hear that. That is no, no, 221 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 6: And the poor kids had to. 222 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 5: See this stage. 223 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: The bear starts tracking a little duckling right yeah, and 224 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: then goes up real close and does get this pause. 225 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 7: It's literally got its two paws and the ducklings in 226 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 7: in its pause, and then you just kind of take 227 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 7: a bite. 228 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 6: Oh my god, I can't believe you guys watched that. 229 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 6: It was bad enough. 230 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 7: Well, so how it happened was someone tagged me in 231 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 7: the video on Instagram. I want to give them credit 232 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 7: because they're clearly a listener because they said the comment 233 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 7: literally said show this to Deborah. 234 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: Oh. 235 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 6: Thanks, another nice listener. 236 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 7: It's at miss Jessica six sixty. Thanks Jessica tag me 237 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 7: for Debora. 238 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: Lol. 239 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 8: Lol, Wow, I don't find anything funny about this, I'm 240 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 8: gonna say not, not anything. 241 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 7: Zoos are educational places, and these kids learned a life lesson. 242 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 6: First of all, the poor duckling and the poor mama duck. 243 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: Well, the mama duck was way ahead. I don't even 244 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: think she saw. She turned her back on the duckling. 245 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: You got to keep them in front of you. 246 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: There. 247 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 6: Oh that you know, I've had a hard day as 248 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 6: it is, and that just made everything. 249 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: So much bear needed a snack. 250 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 6: Okay, the bear has other snacks. 251 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: It needed to leave a little baby. 252 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 6: Oh, that's so sad. And what's really sad, seriously is 253 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 6: those kids. They're going to be traumatized. 254 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: Well, they have to understand what the world is. 255 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 6: Okay, John, you have three you have three kids. 256 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, and they were little and they took a field 257 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 8: trip to a zoo and they came back and told 258 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 8: you what happened, and we're crying and upset. 259 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: I'd probably you would laugh. 260 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: Bro. 261 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: Every animal, almost every animal's food for some other, for. 262 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 8: Some other animal that bears don't usually eat ducklings. 263 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: I think it's just it was just too cute right 264 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: in front of its nose there. It's hard to pass up. 265 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: And I'd never seen a bury to duckling. But then again, 266 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, you'd never see ducklings in a bear pond 267 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: like that. 268 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 6: That's a very awful, awful, awful, awful story. 269 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: Are you gonna watch it? 270 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 6: Are you kidding me? 271 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 8: I could barely tolerate listening to just the kids screaming, 272 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 8: because I have an imagination, so I can imagine what happened. 273 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 6: No, of course I'm not going to see that. I 274 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 6: want to watch that. 275 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 7: I'm glad you found found out what it was at 276 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 7: because I was trying to figure it out and I 277 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 7: couldn't find it. 278 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 279 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: Oh, I typed in Woodland Park and it says Seattle, 280 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: Washington makes sense. 281 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: Now. 282 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: Years ago, I took the kids to Alaska and we 283 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: went into some kind of nature preserve area and I 284 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: remember there was a wooden bridge and on the other 285 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: side of the fence. On the bridge was a stream, 286 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: one of those fast moving Alaskan streams, you know, going 287 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: over rocks, and bears were playing in the stream, and 288 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: there were salmon and you could see the bears grab 289 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: the salmon right out of the stream and rip it. 290 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: You could hear the salmon being ripped apart, and they 291 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: was stuffed the salmon in their mouth. I think I 292 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: have video of that. Of course you do, because they 293 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: did it for a while, so I got I had 294 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: a minute to go get the camera and get a 295 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: shot of it. 296 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 6: I wouldn't want to see that. 297 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: You don't want to see that? 298 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 6: Did your kids like that? 299 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 5: Yeah? 300 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well they have you. 301 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 6: It's their dad. Look, guys, isn't this cool. 302 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: Let's be real. He's got three sons. I don't shield 303 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: them from that kind of reality. 304 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 5: Oh. 305 00:17:54,760 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 6: I shielded my kids from that kind of reality. Nobody 306 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 6: needs to see that. 307 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 7: Or hear that. 308 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, the kids screaming in horror. 309 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 6: Was that was terrible. I'm gonna have nightmares. 310 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: They were lucky there was glass and they couldn't hear 311 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: the chomping. All right, when we come back San Francisco, 312 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: swirling the bowl. Now they are going down for good. 313 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: There's now a story from the San Francisco Chronicle about 314 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: all the tax revenue that is being lost in San 315 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: Francisco because so many businesses I've closed down, so many 316 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: people won't work there anymore. It looks like the criminals 317 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: and the homeless and the progressives have won. They can 318 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: declare victory they got what they wanted. San Francisco is 319 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: a healthscape and we'll give you the financial numbers when 320 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: we come back. On the Johnny Kenshaw. 321 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 322 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 323 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: Keep am radio in all new cars and trucks. That 324 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: is the message here, because there's talk about it being 325 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: removed from new cars and trucks. And if we're in 326 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: a natural disaster, you're gonna get a text alert. It's 327 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: not enough. It's not a substitute for what broadcast stations 328 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: like ours can provide. Radio somebody talking to you twenty 329 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: four to seven until the emergency passes. Often the cell 330 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: networks aren't even up and running during a disaster. When 331 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,239 Speaker 1: emergencies occur, your local broadcast radio station we provide wal 332 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: to wall coverage, life saving information, and a live connection 333 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: in the crisis and then in the aftermath. You have 334 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: to make your voice heard on this issue. You got 335 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: to tell Congress to keep AM radio and all cars 336 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: and trucks. Text the letters AM to five two eight 337 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: eight six. 338 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 2: Do this now. 339 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: Now, Text letters AM to five to eight eighty six. 340 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: You tell Congress keep AM radio and all cars and trucks. 341 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: Standard message and data rates apply. Coming up after three o'clock, 342 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna have Mark Peacock on. He's an attorney representing 343 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: the family of Officer Michael Parides. He and Officer Joseph 344 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: Santana had arrived at the Siesta Inn in Almonte. There's 345 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 1: a reported domestic violence. This happened last year. You may 346 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: remember there was a gang member who had a multitude 347 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: of prior convictions and he was in some altercation with 348 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: his wife or girlfriend. Paredes and Santana were the officers 349 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: who showed up to try to settle matters, and the perpetrator, 350 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: justin Flores, shot them in the head and killed them. 351 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 1: And then, of course we found that that evil George 352 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: Gascon was behind it. His policies allowed Flores to be 353 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: freed on probation after he was arrested for possession of 354 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: a firearm and meth amphetamine. He could have faced several 355 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: years in prison under the three strikes law, but the 356 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: prosecutor said he couldn't seek the enhanced sentenced because of Gascon. 357 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: So this guy was free when he should have been 358 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: in prison, and he was free to kill two officers, 359 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: Michael Paredes and Joseph Santana in Omonti. We are going 360 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: to have the attorney for the Paredes family, Mark Peacock. 361 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: They are suing the probation Department, and they are suing 362 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: the evil George Gascon responsible for the double murder of 363 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: police officers. Not that Gascone cares. I guess that's a 364 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: good day for Gascon to dead cops. All right, San Francisco. 365 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: You know what's fascinating about this is everyone's saying chronicled 366 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: San Francisco's decline over the last several years, and there 367 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: was really only one conclusion. Eventually the place is going 368 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: to collapse. And of course if you said this out loud, 369 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: it's like why you you must be a rightest I mean, 370 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: you want to put people in prison, and don't you 371 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: have any compassion for the homeless. I mean, there's there's 372 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: just hundreds of criminals, I mean, just thousands of shoplifters 373 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: and car thieves running amuck at all times. And uh, 374 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: then then you've got the thousands of homeless people, mostly 375 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: drug addicts and mental patients, laying in the streets assaulting people. 376 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: It's certain some neighborhoods are that as disgusting as you'll 377 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: see in any American city. But oh, don't worry. They said, 378 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: no one's ever gonna leave California, and no one's ever 379 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: gonna leave San Francisco. It's too beautiful here. This is 380 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: the hub of the tech industry. This is the cool 381 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: place to be, and we're all compassionate, progressive, and we 382 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: can manage this. 383 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 2: Well. 384 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: As you heard recently, nord Strums is closing two of 385 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: its stores. Sacks fifth Avenue is closing there. What's it 386 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: called off Sacks Off fifth? What else closed? 387 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 2: Oh? 388 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: The Whole Foods it's only a year old. Walgreens, several 389 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: of those have closed. You go to a target, almost 390 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: every single item is locked up in a case. And 391 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: because it's so scary in the streets, nobody shows up 392 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: for work anymore. The buildings are mostly empty. There's one 393 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: building that was worth three hundred million dollars just four 394 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: years ago. It's now worth sixty And that's a whole 395 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: other issue. It's like, what happens with all these massive 396 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: empty office buildings. People don't want to come back. And 397 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: it's not just we like remote work. We like sitting 398 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: at home in our pajamas and our fuzzy slippers. Part 399 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: of it is they don't want to be stabbed in 400 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: the neck. So anyway, the restaurants and bars are empty, 401 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: all the retail shops are empty. All the kinds of 402 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: little stories were people would do their errand shopping, they're empty. 403 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: And now boys sales tax revenue data down twenty two percent. 404 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: It is down forty million dollars from twenty nineteen. Wow. 405 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen it was one hundred eighty one million. 406 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, one hundred and forty one million. 407 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: Downtown revenues dropped even more. Revenue from the Business district 408 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: South of Market neighborhood fell by a third, from twenty 409 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: one million to fourteen million. The financial District South Beach area, 410 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: which produces the most sales tax revenue of any neighborhood, 411 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: dropped thirty percent forty one million to twenty eight million. Oh, 412 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: the tenderline down fifty three percent from ten million to 413 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: less than five million. So there you know, three neighborhoods, 414 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: three important revenue neighborhoods down thirty four percent, thirty percent, 415 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: fifty three percent. Uh, there's a there's a a supervisor. 416 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: District three and District six. They are the two big 417 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: sales tax districts. In twenty nineteen, those two districts produced 418 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: more sales tax revenue than all the other districts combined. 419 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: Since then, revenue from food and drug stores has dropped 420 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: forty three percent. Forty three percent. Of course, that's where 421 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: all the vagrants and criminals congregates. Revenue generated by general 422 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: consumer goods, including department stores, have dropped fourteen percent, But 423 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: that doesn't even include other locations that Whole Foods and 424 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: Rodstrom would have, And so the retailers are closing, so 425 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: a lot of that tax money is gone forever. It's 426 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: it's at every we all wondered, it's like they can't 427 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: live like this forever. They can't put up with this forever. 428 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: They're paying ridiculous rents, and they were paying ridiculous rents 429 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: for a long time, and they were working from the 430 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: office for a long time. But suddenly pandemic happened and 431 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: it broke the magic, and they thought, why would I 432 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: want to go and get stabbed or raped? Why do 433 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: I want to play fecal hopscotch on the way to work? 434 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: Why do I want to smell that? Why do I 435 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: want to be chased by a crazed methatic. Why do 436 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: I want to watch a naked guy take on a 437 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: dump on the sidewalk. Don't have to do that anymore. 438 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: And this was a one progressive experiment. It's really funny. 439 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there is a certain amount of enjoyment to 440 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: get out of this because they got their way entirely. 441 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: City's only seven percent Republicans. It's a monolith. They don't 442 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: even have many moderate Democrats. They don't any but hey, 443 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: this is how the people voted. And so they voted 444 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: to destroy a city and reward mental patients, drug addicts, 445 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: and criminals. And now a lot of them fled the 446 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: city and they're still working for a San Francisco business 447 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: and name only, but they relocated elsewhere in California and 448 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: in other states. It's like, hey, good work, good work 449 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: voting in absolute morons. And then when they tank the 450 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: city and make it broken, disgusting, you get out of town, 451 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: but you keep your job and you're still getting nice work, 452 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: good citizens. More coming up, Johnny Kenn Show caf I. 453 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 454 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 455 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: All right after three o'clock. We are going to talk 456 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: to the attorney for the Michael Paredi's family. Michael Paredes 457 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: and Joseph Santana were two Elmonte police officers who were 458 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 1: shot and killed, shot in the head and killed by 459 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: Justin Flores, a gang member who George Gascon gave a 460 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: sweet deal to instead of being in prison. He was 461 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: out on probation and he got into some kind of 462 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: domestic violence entanglement at a motel and Parites and Santana 463 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: showed up and Flores killed them. And Mark Peacock, the attorney, 464 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: is representing the family. They're suing the probation department, which 465 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: provided no supervision obvious like nothing effective, and then in 466 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: Gascone for his ridiculous policies that led to this situation. So, 467 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, another day we're reminded of two more police 468 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: officers that Gascon killed and yet he's still in office. 469 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: So we'll do that. After three o'clock. We were just 470 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: talking about the massive sales tax drop in San Francisco 471 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: to go along with the massive property tax drop that's 472 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: going on. You know what else is going down just 473 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: trying to run a small business with the with the 474 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: nord Stroms closing on Market Street, they have one of 475 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: those Westfield shopping malls, and they San Francisco Chronicle to 476 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: talk to some of the business owners. There's one guy 477 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: named Dat TiO. He's owner of Umai Savory hot Dogs, 478 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: and he says put traffic is down, sales are down. 479 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: Now Nordstroms is closing, and he doesn't know if he 480 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: can stay in business. Everyone's hurting. People are things are 481 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: going bad to worse for that mall. The sex Off 482 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: fifth Store is closed. Whole Foods as I mentioned before, 483 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: and that creates a lot of food foot traffic. You know, 484 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: people go to maybe several stores on any given day, 485 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: on any given little Junket and Atum the hot dog place, 486 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: sales are down thirty percent below projection, and maybe he 487 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: does fifteen hundred to two thousand dollars a day in sales, 488 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: but he's got a twenty eight thousand dollars monthly rent. 489 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: The employees fed up with the crazy homeless vagrants and 490 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: there's all kinds of crime going on. He's been asking 491 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: Westfield for a rent decrease and they kept saying no 492 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: until nordstrom left. Suddenly he got a call with an 493 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: offer and they're willing to lower his rent. From twenty 494 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: eight than to twelve thousand, unless they can find another 495 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: tenant willing to pay more. Boy, this is not the 496 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: time to do hardball deals. That's a dumb executive. At 497 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: Westfield and two, the business owner says, the city needs help. 498 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: We need help. I just hope something gets done. Stop 499 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: voting for the people you're voting for. I have an idea. 500 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: Vote for a new set of supervisors. We call the 501 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: old ones, and the new supervisors all promise not only 502 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: to hire lots of police, but the police go around 503 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: and take every take care of every little indiscretion imaginable. 504 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: Go do what Rudy Giuliani and Bill Bratton did in 505 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties in New York City. It's called the 506 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: broken windows policy. The slightest little crime that you see 507 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: bad behavior, you put a people in jail. You put 508 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: the mental patients in a lockdown mental facility. You put 509 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: the drug addicts into a lockdown drug facility. Everybody is 510 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: forced somewhere, forced to go to jail, forced to go 511 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: to a mental health clinic, forced to go to drug treatment. 512 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: The doors are all locked. Everybody sits in there until 513 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: they're successfully treated. Until you do that, you you've already 514 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: You've already destroyed the city. It's not going to get 515 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: any better. Rents are going to keep going down and down, 516 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: so is the value of the property, the sales every 517 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: I don't wanna tell you. I mean, once you start 518 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: a doom cycle, it's hard to get out of it. 519 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: US News and World Report is out with its best 520 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: state rankings, which, according to Katie Grimes at the California Globe, 521 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: details California's demise. They ranked the states on crime and corrections, 522 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: the economy, education, fiscal stability, healthcare, infrastructure, natural environment, and opportunity. 523 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: Out of the fifty states, we're thirty third. US News 524 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: and World Reports say thirty two other states are better 525 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: places to live than California. Of course, Newsome is spent 526 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: half the year flying to southern states trying to bully 527 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: the governors into admitting that California is the way to go. Well, 528 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: we're number thirty three, and US News and World Report 529 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: is no right wing outfit. Let's see here's all our 530 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: rankings by category. You'll be this is great. Number twenty 531 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: three in crime and corrections, number twenty nine for the economy. 532 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: You always hear him saying, ah, here we have the 533 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: fifth largest economy. Yeah, it's only number twenty nine out 534 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: of the fifty states. We're twentieth in education, we're thirty 535 00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: ninth in fiscal stability. We're thirty fourth in infrastructure. You know, 536 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: i'd be all the crumbling potholed roads and bridges. Thirty 537 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: percent for the number thirty for natural environment, it's probably 538 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: because of all the disgusting pollution, for example, the homeless 539 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: people defecating in the in the wets, the Bologna weapons. 540 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: We are number fifty in opportunity. How about that, California 541 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: number fifty in economic opportunity. There is only one category 542 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: that we pulled in the top ten, and that was 543 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: number six for healthcare, probably because of the massive amount 544 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 1: of tax money that we donate to all the millions 545 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: of legal aliens here, got them all on Medicaid. So 546 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: we're number six in healthcare. But everything else number twenty three, 547 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: twenty nine, thirty nine, thirty four to thirty and again 548 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: in case you have friends and relatives who want to 549 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: come to California and reinvent themselves, because the sky's the limit, 550 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: such a wild land of opportunity. No, actually, we are 551 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: the worst state for opportunity in the entire nation. Number fifty. 552 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: You have less opportunity coming to California than anywhere else, 553 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 1: including Mississippi. All right, we come back. You're gonna talk 554 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: with Mark Peacocky's representing the family of Officer Mike Perdis 555 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: from Elmonte. He and Officer Joseph Santana were killed by 556 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: Justin Flores, the gang member who shot them both in 557 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: the head when they responded to a domestic violence call 558 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: in a motel. And this is another one of those 559 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: cases where gascones insane, destructive, deadly, murderous policies led to 560 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: two cops being assassinated. Basically more coming up on The 561 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: Johnny Ken Show. Two rounds of the Moist Line coming up, 562 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: as well, live debor Mark live in the twenty four 563 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: hour Cafe Newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to the john 564 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: and Ken Show. You can always hear us live on 565 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,479 Speaker 1: CAFI Am six forty two pm to four pm every 566 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: Monday through Friday, and of course anytime on demand on 567 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app.