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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast, six of the top. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Kansas and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room build with some heroes. Chris Westling to my left,

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Speaker 1: Greg Rose the Thoughts in my right. What's up boys?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, West? Thank you, good to have you in

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Speaker 1: the in the big chair. Well it's the same size

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Speaker 1: the Mike and the Mad Dog thirty for thirty which

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Speaker 1: I finally watched, and you know you want to be

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Speaker 1: facing the I'm in the week chair. I get whatever

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Speaker 1: that is the weakest chair, penalty box. You're in the

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Speaker 1: mad Dog chair. Um. Yes, uh, we're back together for

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Speaker 1: another week of shows. Saturday night was the Big Shield

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Speaker 1: Celebration gala at cessler Manor Uh is that why Marks

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Speaker 1: what was got a little wild at Sessler Matter. I

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Speaker 1: get that, how that would be kind of a weird scene.

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Speaker 1: I like how you're letting this, You're gonna let this

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Speaker 1: linger on all off season. Well, you're really stoking the uncertainty.

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Speaker 1: I did you know? I used some of my intrepid

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Speaker 1: reporters skills to ask some questions the party, no to

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Speaker 1: he was playing it on the fence, not sure what's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen next year, on that fence, on that fence. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Today's addition to the Around the NFL Podcast, Do I

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Speaker 1: have to say it's sponsored by new Air at the top? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Every time? Okay, Today edition of the Around the NFL Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented of course by UH New Era. A lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff to get to. Jay Cutler's back in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: How about that? And you know what, I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: I missed him. Really, I feel I like it better

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Speaker 1: that he's back involved, He's back in the mix. Wells,

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Speaker 1: and we'll get into that and what what that means

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Speaker 1: down in Miami. We will also Now, um, training camp

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Speaker 1: a Greg Rosenthal piece on NFL dot Com the winners

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Speaker 1: and losers of Training Camp so far, and Hey, Lions

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Speaker 1: fans that are coming at me, upset that the detroits

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Speaker 1: on my radar. Hey, just get to camp early. And

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Speaker 1: if you can't get to camp, Greg, I know this

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Speaker 1: team together and in local Park and Auburn Hills, throw

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Speaker 1: and that's the show today before we get going, Hi, Sully,

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Speaker 1: how are you buddy? Good? How you guys done? It

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Speaker 1: was your weekend? It was good? Lazy relaxing. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: weekend two weekends agues. So okay, let's let's keep that

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Speaker 1: If you want to, yeah, sit down on the couch,

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Speaker 1: Bob Opener Brusky and check out the Week one Bears

426
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Speaker 1: preseason game. And uh, Paxton Lynch. He'll start the following

427
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Speaker 1: week against the forty niners in Santa Clara. Uh that

428
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Speaker 1: coming from Vance Joseph greg Who's who's gonna start, Who's

429
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Speaker 1: gonna start Week three? Because that's when we find out

430
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Speaker 1: probably who's gonna be their Week one guy. The practice

431
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 1: reports are that Simeon is winning this job by default.

432
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 1: To quote a Denver Post column over the weekend that

433
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Speaker 1: that Paxston Lynch just is not showing any of the

434
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Speaker 1: growth that they were hoping for it. I think it's

435
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Speaker 1: still very early in the in the games are gonna

436
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Speaker 1: end up mattering more, and I still believe that they

437
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Speaker 1: would love Paxston Lynch to be the one that does

438
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Speaker 1: win the job. Charles Robinson of Yahoo cited a source

439
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: who watched video of every practice and said Simeon has

440
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 1: outplayed Lynch in every single practice, which says a lot

441
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: more about Lynch than Simeon because by all accounts, Simeon

442
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 1: has been pretty average in camp and he's learning a

443
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Speaker 1: new offense. I mean, he's a young player who's not,

444
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Speaker 1: you know, the most talented quarterback in league. I like him,

445
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Speaker 1: but he's the third year player who hasn't started that

446
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 1: many games learning a new offense. So you know it's

447
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 1: not easy for either of these guys right now. In

448
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 1: other news, Jalen Collins, the Falcons cornerback, has run into

449
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Speaker 1: trouble once again. UH Collins, who started Super Bowl fifty

450
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Speaker 1: one for the Falcons cornerback and was suspended four games

451
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: for a violation of the UH Performance Enhancing Substance policy

452
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: last year, was hit with a ten game suspension on

453
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Speaker 1: Monday to start to two thousand seventeen for a repeat offense.

454
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Speaker 1: The team announced that means Collins will be able to

455
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Speaker 1: practice with the team um after the preseason ends, cannot

456
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Speaker 1: return until November twenty one. West. This is a big

457
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Speaker 1: loss for the Atlanta secondary. No and and Thomas Demetrof,

458
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Speaker 1: their GM has said twice this in the past couple

459
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Speaker 1: of months. This is the deepest roster he's ever had,

460
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Speaker 1: And this is another example of this is a guy

461
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 1: who started in the Super Bowl. Tom Brady picked on

462
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Speaker 1: him in the Super Bowl and he was gonna be

463
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Speaker 1: their fourth quarter cornerback at best. He was not slated

464
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Speaker 1: to have a big rule at all, but he played

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Speaker 1: very well down the stretch and I think was one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons that defense. Uh, played into the Super Bowl,

467
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Speaker 1: played well in the playoffs. He got one of these

468
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Speaker 1: statements from the Falcons, which I always it's interesting when

469
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Speaker 1: they do this, where the team kind of buried him.

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Speaker 1: They were just like, we're disappointed in jail and for

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Speaker 1: this happening again. So two years in a row. That's terrible.

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Speaker 1: It's terrible. They can go back to us bro uh

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Speaker 1: and other news retirement news Vince wolferk who uh one

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Speaker 1: of the great nose tackles of his generation. When two

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Speaker 1: rings with the Patriots finished his career in Houston, he

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Speaker 1: retired on Monday, and he he retired in a very

477
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Speaker 1: twenty first century manner on via paid sponsorship with Kingsford

478
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Speaker 1: the Grill Company video he released on his Twitter feed

479
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Speaker 1: in which he said he was walking away leaving the game,

480
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Speaker 1: but uh still gonna grill or something. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It was weird, but Vince will for thirty five years old,

482
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Speaker 1: former first round pick Greg Where does he rank for

483
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Speaker 1: you amongst your favorite Patriots of the Belichick era? Well,

484
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Speaker 1: that's a long, impressive, fun list. He's up there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's certainly one of my favorite defensive players, uh, just

486
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Speaker 1: because of his personality. If nothing else, I mean, unless

487
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Speaker 1: you're really breaking down the tape, you're not seeing all

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Speaker 1: the good things that Wilford does on a snap to

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Speaker 1: snap basis, taking up two blockers, basically shutting down the run.

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Speaker 1: Early in his career, teams just ran away from him.

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Speaker 1: That's like the best compliment you can possibly have. He

492
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Speaker 1: was also um responsible for the butt fumble on some level.

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Speaker 1: Uh and so he probably has one of the longest

494
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Speaker 1: uh for a non quarterback gaps between super Bowl championships

495
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Speaker 1: two thousand four and then what was a two thousand

496
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Speaker 1: fifteen uh So, quite a crew. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: is the Hall of Fame worthy was my guesses. He'll

498
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Speaker 1: come just short that he's in that Hall of very

499
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Speaker 1: good range, just because nose tackles never get the credit

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Speaker 1: that they deserve. He he has a couple he didn't

501
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Speaker 1: win in two thousand fifteen. I was checking he that

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Speaker 1: was his Unfortunately he had been some bad timing there, right,

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Speaker 1: Oh he and I thought he had too. He left

504
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 1: after the Seattle Super Bowl win, didn't he? All Right,

505
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm an idiot. Hey, don't don't beat yourself up. It's

506
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Speaker 1: hard to keep track all these super Bowl titles. I

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Speaker 1: get it, Greg, everybody I was thinking at two thousand

508
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Speaker 1: fifteen season, Uh, you're right. He had to get a

509
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Speaker 1: couple of second team All pros, one first team All

510
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: Pro generally, that's that's probably not quite enough. Five Pro Bowls.

511
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Speaker 1: He'll be someone I think that's talked about, but probably

512
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Speaker 1: not into the finalists. I think he was most famous

513
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: for after leaving New England was the Hard Knocks episode

514
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: where he showed up wearing the giant overalls with nothing

515
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Speaker 1: else underneath, which was one of the class of Hard

516
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Speaker 1: Knocks moments. In his retirement video to same get up, Yeah,

517
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: he brings it back in that video. He also says

518
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: in that video hanging up cleats but still smoking meats,

519
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 1: and he wears a hat just as Ribs like. I

520
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: feel like that's a challenge and West. How about that

521
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: he's famous for this because years ago his wife, uh

522
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Speaker 1: secretly videotaped Bianca, you know, before Gisel came along. This

523
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: is one thing people will remember. Vince Wilfork were about

524
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Speaker 1: as well liked and does as much charity works as

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Speaker 1: any Patriot. They were the first couple of the New

526
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Speaker 1: England Patriots. That's all I'm saying, Fanka, Hey tell who's

527
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 1: a Ted Johnson? Yeah? Johnson, that too. He famously stepped

528
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Speaker 1: on the wrong toes that way. Do a web search

529
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Speaker 1: if you want to learn a little bit more about

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Speaker 1: why you do not mess with Vince Wilfork and his family.

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Speaker 1: But West Wilfork looks like a man who enjoyed ribs.

532
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Speaker 1: He looks like he knows his way around a smoker.

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Speaker 1: Uh you again, tremendous ribs delivered by you at Saturday

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Speaker 1: at the party. But do you think perhaps that this

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Speaker 1: man could challenge you to the throne for greatest ribs

536
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Speaker 1: hooker in America. I will tell you that in the

537
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Speaker 1: past few months, I've made ribs that one person said

538
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Speaker 1: was the best thing they've ever had in their mouth,

539
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: and Saturday night, Jay Berg said the best meat he's

540
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Speaker 1: eaten in years of any kind. I think it's like

541
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Speaker 1: cornerbacks in the NFL, like you have to whether you're

542
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Speaker 1: the best or not, you have to have the mindset

543
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Speaker 1: that you're the best. And I don't think Vince Wilford

544
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Speaker 1: can out rib me. I like the confidence. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I love the well that what West did the other

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Speaker 1: night with I don't know, there's some brown sugar and

547
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: you had a new cookie. Don't give away any of

548
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: that gaps. Wilford could be listening. It was it. It

549
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: was unbelievable, and it was so good. I the other

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Speaker 1: A few weeks back. I brought it home for my

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Speaker 1: my wife, who was a chaft you know, went to

552
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Speaker 1: culinary school, and and she put the seal of approval

553
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: just like that. These are unbelievable ribs. And it says

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00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 1: a lot about West on a party where he could

555
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: not partake in the ribs. He has did generate generous

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00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: heart enough to be cooking ribs, using up his energy

557
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: all day to cook for the rest of us. A

558
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: lot of a positive spin on it, But I mean,

559
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: in all honesty, I enjoy doing it. And and in

560
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: the past few months, I haven't had many weekends where

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Speaker 1: I can get out and do something I enjoy. But

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Speaker 1: I you know, it's a good way to spend the

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Speaker 1: day if you if you love what you do, and

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00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: for West that means cooking ribs, it will take you

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Speaker 1: a long way. Vince, can you say you love him

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Speaker 1: that much? The way he dances he loves Let's move

567
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: on check in on the A certain battle that the

568
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: old Jeue has been tracking down in Tampa. Roberto Aguayo

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00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: against Nick Folk um quick rundown here on Friday, Aguayo

570
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: goes off and practice makes everything. Dirk Cutter saying, oh,

571
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: we had to sit down and come to Jesus meeting

572
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: about hey, hey, just go out there and have fun.

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00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: And and Oguaia was telling the media, Hey, I was

574
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: thinking about it all wrong last year. I was too

575
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: stressed out. I just gotta let the game come to me.

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00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: If only he had said that last year, have fun,

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Speaker 1: Yeah happened. Meanwhile, NICKI Folk missed some kicks late last

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Speaker 1: week Monday. You gotta be thinking Cutters thinking to himself,

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Speaker 1: I think this is going to be settled. I think

580
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: Robbi's figured it out because now the game's coming to

581
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: him easily. He's just having fun out there like a kid.

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Speaker 1: And what does he do? He yaks it up on Monday.

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Speaker 1: Uh both Folk and Aguaya who missed kicks on the

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Speaker 1: skinny field goal posts. Uh, Folk clanging off the left,

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00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: right upright. This, according to Rick Stroud of the Tampa

586
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: Bay Times, Oguaya missed wide right. They both then missed

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Speaker 1: on regulation goal posts. Aguayo hooking a kick badly to

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Speaker 1: the left, and then finally Aguya made one from about

589
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: fifty yards out that Folk then missed, and then dark Cutter.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this about their cutter, the Bucks coach. He

591
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: is leaning into this. He's sucked in as I am

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00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: in this. Instead of like being a little like, you know,

593
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Speaker 1: having a little bit of a poker face going on.

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00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: He lives and dies by every Buck's practice, talking about

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Speaker 1: he loves talking about that. The skinny goal post is

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00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: a great move. Yeah, for the competition, you gotta go

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00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: to the skinny goal post. Here's here's his quote. This

598
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: is how pumped up Cutter is about this thing. Asked

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00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: about the practice of the two men. Not too good,

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00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: not too good. It's one day on, one day off.

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Speaker 1: Whatever they ate for breakfast today off the menu, because

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00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: that was neither of them was very good today. It's

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Speaker 1: a simple process. Okay, you're a kicker in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Inside fifty yards you've got to make your kicks. And

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00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm not being a hardass or anything. That's just what

606
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: it is in this league. They know it. I know it.

607
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: Everyone here knows it. Folk, So you guys are aware

608
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: of the steaks here, right, Like coaches watching and everything. Guys,

609
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: such an unforgiving position and in sports. When you listen

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00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: to Aguayo late last week, I got the sense like

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00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: he was convinced of what he was saying, and there

612
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: was a two percent doubt in his mind that he

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00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: wasn't He's not willing to go to that dark place.

614
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: But it's there. Uh. And finally our Knox starts, by

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00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: the way, this week, Derk Cotter is gonna be a

616
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: sneaky star here. We're gonna We're gonna like their Cotter

617
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: more than we expect. It's a return engagement for Carter.

618
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: He was involved with the Falcon season, which was not

619
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Speaker 1: very memorable. Gets another shot here. Uh. Finally Uh. The

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00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame held their induction ceremony over

621
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Speaker 1: the weekend. Such luminaries UH inducted included Ladanian, Thomason, Jason Taylor,

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, Terrilled, Davis, Kurt Warner, Um, Morton Anderson got

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Speaker 1: in good for you, Morton? Who else am I missing anyone?

624
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Speaker 1: And easily Taylor? Did he say? I said, Taylor? Uh,

625
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: So it was a celebrate. Let's hear a little bit.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Wes, you mentioned this in our little

627
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: pre PROD meeting. UH Kurt Warner talking about his journey

628
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: and called out somebody that maybe you wouldn't have expected

629
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Speaker 1: to hear his name at a hall in Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame induction speech, But I would like to recognize one

631
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: teammate who had a more profound impact on me than

632
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: any other. Trent Green. Give it up, guys, Jesus, you

633
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: know our pass cross in the most incredible ways, and

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Speaker 1: I acknowledge you could easily be the one standing up

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Speaker 1: here tonight. But the class that you showed while dealing

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Speaker 1: with the toughest situations is etched in my mind. Your

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Speaker 1: willingness to share your football secrets so I could succeed

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Speaker 1: was incredibly valuable. But the character you displayed and the

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Speaker 1: way you modeled the definition of teammate was priceless. I

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Speaker 1: should I should have preface that by saying, what the

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Speaker 1: backstory is? I guess it's football lord at this point,

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Speaker 1: but if you don't know, if you're a younger fan.

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Speaker 1: Trent Green was supposed to be the starter for the St.

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Speaker 1: Lewis Rams in the season, blew out his a c

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Speaker 1: L in the middle of the preseason. Dick Vermial gave

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Speaker 1: his famous press conference in which he said the team

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Speaker 1: will rally around Kurt Warner, who was in an arena

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Speaker 1: league football quarterback, who then went on to have one

649
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Speaker 1: of the great seasons all time by a quarterback. That

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Speaker 1: entire offense became known as the greatest show on turf West.

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Speaker 1: But Trent Green getting the shot out there, Uh, any

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Speaker 1: other takeaways from that or the rest of the ceremony. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the takeaway from me, I mean, Kurt Warner is being

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Speaker 1: self deprecating there to to a pretty large degree. But

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Speaker 1: it just drives home the point how many Hall of

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Speaker 1: Famers are in the Hall of Fame because of surrounding talent, scheme, coaching,

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Speaker 1: landing in the landing in the exact right place. Trent

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Speaker 1: Green the next year started five games when Kurt Warner

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Speaker 1: was injured and had had a higher passer rating than

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Speaker 1: Kurt Warner, he could have been statistically one of the

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Speaker 1: best quarterbacks of that generation had he stayed healthy, not

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Speaker 1: blown out his a c L and thrown passes the

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Speaker 1: tour whole Isaac Bruce Azahirakim in Mike Martz's offense, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Hecky started to, you know, roll up for yard seasons

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Speaker 1: at a time when there wasn't as many passing yards

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City. Uh, so you're right, he could have

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Speaker 1: done great there. I liked the Hall of Fame induction ceremony.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of an event, you know, if

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Speaker 1: you got to really be into football, I think to

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Speaker 1: sit and watch and and really get into But if

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Speaker 1: you love football, I think it's a great event. But

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Speaker 1: I do think they have lost the plot with how

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Speaker 1: long it is. It's it's outrageous how long the speeches are.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know how you fix that, because you

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Speaker 1: want everyone to get their time in and thank everyone

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Speaker 1: they want. But it was over four hours. I think

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Speaker 1: the average almost it was close to an average of

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Speaker 1: thirty minutes of speech. And even comparing it to some

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Speaker 1: of the ceremonies, I'm thinking of one that I went

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Speaker 1: to and I covered it for a long time. It's

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Speaker 1: almost double the ceremony right now then what it was

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Speaker 1: six or seven years ago, they were doing fifteen to

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes. So much you know, maybe one guy would

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Speaker 1: really go crazy, you know, Jerry did. Jerry Jones, who

685
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Speaker 1: was great, Uh, had one of the best ones. I

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Speaker 1: thought of the night we did thirty six minutes, you know,

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Speaker 1: in a lot over thirty minutes, and so maybe it's

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Speaker 1: just an event for all the people there, and that's

689
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: that's fine, but it's not. I don't know, it's not

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Speaker 1: a TV event when when it's four and a half hours,

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Speaker 1: that's fair. They got to tighten that up. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Jane Slayter report in the NFL network, I think I

693
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Speaker 1: heard this correctly that Jerry Jones is Friday night party

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Speaker 1: the night before the induction. Uh cost the team or

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Speaker 1: cost the owner fifteen million dollars. I did a triple

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Speaker 1: take and had to ask him million was the right

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Speaker 1: word there? Fifteen million dollar party? That's a bacchanalia. How

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Speaker 1: about justin Timberlake played, So maybe that's costing what a

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Speaker 1: couple of million right there? I don't know. How about

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Speaker 1: you just get a DJ played justin Timberlake, throw a

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Speaker 1: one million dollar party and then give fourteen million to

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Speaker 1: some of the underprivileged youth. Of it is a little

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Speaker 1: like discuss, it's a little it's a little much. Jerry

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Speaker 1: Jones thanked Jerry Jimmy Johnson. That was a notable moment.

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Speaker 1: I thought the Chargers fans who showed up booing uh,

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Speaker 1: Dean Spanos when la Danian Thomason, you know, thanks Spanos,

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Speaker 1: Ladanian Thompinson had a great speech. But that that stuck

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Speaker 1: in my head as kind of a memorable, real, real

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Speaker 1: thing that actually happened. Morton Anderson was great, I mean,

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Speaker 1: just to hear his story. Came here as an exchange

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Speaker 1: student for eight months, and they just were like, hey,

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Speaker 1: let's put the foreign kid out there, you know, just

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Speaker 1: to live here for like seven months and never never left. No,

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Speaker 1: let's put the foreign kid out there. He must be

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Speaker 1: good at at kicking and none he's in the hall.

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Speaker 1: Years later. Well, guys who are the age of of

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00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: me and Mark Sessler, remember when most of the old

718
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Speaker 1: most of the the good kickers in the league in the

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Speaker 1: late seventies and early eighties were born outside the United

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Speaker 1: States because they were the only soccer style kickers. These

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Speaker 1: guys are so confused. They weren't even wear two shoes.

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Speaker 1: It was just the all thing going on back in

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Speaker 1: the seventies and eighties. Uh, that's what's happening in the news.

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Speaker 1: New Era. Oh yeah, West is wearing a new era

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Speaker 1: hat today because he's his head. He's got a Paul

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Speaker 1: tad and there is a wind chill in this The

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Speaker 1: people like you just complained and complained. First of all,

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Speaker 1: come on, get together. The air conditioning here was broken

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00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: for two years NFL media. It's like a like, what

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Speaker 1: is this eight? How many billion dollars? Fifteen billion dollar company? Uh?

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Speaker 1: And finally they fixed it. They airlifted in a new

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Speaker 1: air conditioning unit. So now instead of being eighty degrees

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Speaker 1: in the newsroom literal, it's you know, sixty three degrees,

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Speaker 1: layer up. That's just that's not even a hot take.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm betting I'm the bad guy. They airlifted the

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Speaker 1: air condition they did, there's a crane or something. New

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Speaker 1: Era New Era's NFL training collection has a great combination

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Speaker 1: because you could always layer up. That's what I was

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Speaker 1: saying to Greg. Greg has been complaining about this all day.

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Speaker 1: We're cold. You can layer up, but you don't want

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Speaker 1: to be at your workplace freezing. What's fun is that

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Speaker 1: if you're hot, you can't hate. What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 1: But when you go outside it's eighty five degrees, So

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Speaker 1: then you're wearing your sweatshirt and it's confined and none

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Speaker 1: Goods in your favorite team. I gotta tell you, I

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Speaker 1: like this hat. It's a it's a buck's hat that

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00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: West is wearing. That's the other interesting tidbit here. Nice angle.

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Speaker 1: It was this the first hat that Sully took out

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Speaker 1: of the box the Great Holy War and and hard knocks.

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Speaker 1: Is this week a little tip of the captive. It's

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Speaker 1: a great between West team Winston and Greg team Mariota

757
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: for the future of the NFL. So flip yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: is that what I had it the other way? My bad?

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00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: Anyway you are West. It's kind of a subversive move

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Speaker 1: by you here. And also I am I loathe the

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers uniforms, especially the rug uniforms, of which are vomit

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Speaker 1: inducing literally when you have a hangover the digital alarm clock,

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Speaker 1: you know, But this hat looks sharp. I like the

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Speaker 1: I kind of like the red It goes good with

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Speaker 1: the white shirt here. If you don't what. I'll take

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Speaker 1: it home. My daughter, Alice is strangely likes the Buccaneers.

767
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: I think she just likes the logo of the Pirates.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be taking clothing out of your

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Speaker 1: daughter's pocket, but I might need this the rest of

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Speaker 1: the day. Guys, there's literally five hundred hats in the

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Speaker 1: closet behind Sully that we have to figure out what

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Speaker 1: to do with them. Um, all right, winners and losers

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Speaker 1: of training camp ellipses so far. Now, you can make

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Speaker 1: any type of judgment like that, Boots soon on the

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Speaker 1: ground Hill, would you know it? It It? Hey, the game whatever?

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Speaker 1: You know that society, that's that's the that's the football

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00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: Gagnescente coming at us a little bit. Sometimes that's more

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Speaker 1: like the average idiot on Twitter. Yeah, that's what it is. Um.

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00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: But we we watch things on television, we read things

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Speaker 1: on the internet. Uh, and from that we make judgment calls.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's the basis of Greg's debrief. I mean,

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Speaker 1: people lose jobs, people get jobs, seasons and seasons begin,

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00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: signings happen. All these things are happening. Greg has his eyes.

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Speaker 1: He's been at a couple of practices he's seen things

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Speaker 1: that have been become part of his debrief. But anyway,

786
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Speaker 1: so winners and losers. So let's go around the horn

787
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Speaker 1: here a couple of times through Greg. Let's start with you, buddy,

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Speaker 1: because yes, you can check it out at NFL dot

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Speaker 1: com slash debrief your weekly column. Uh, give me a

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Speaker 1: winner or a loser, whatever you to start with. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with with a couple of losers. Well that it

792
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: just sounds hard because because the number one total waste

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Speaker 1: of I'm good yet, because the number one overall picks

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00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: in the two thousand eleven and two thousand and twelve draft,

795
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Speaker 1: or two of my very favorite players in the NFL

796
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: to watch. And yet the fact that Cam Newton has

797
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: not thrown a football in practice for eight straight days

798
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: now to me, has been a strangely underplayed storyline. Everyone

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Speaker 1: there says, Oh, it's fine, it's no big deal. Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton started camp with absolutely no restrictions, practiced for four

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Speaker 1: days and now has been out for eight days. Since

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Speaker 1: he didn't practice all off season, they're trying to change

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Speaker 1: their whole offensive identity. One of the key pieces for

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Speaker 1: that offensive identity is Curtis Samuel, the second round Pick, who,

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Speaker 1: by the way, got injured on the very first day

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Speaker 1: of training camp and has not practiced one a since.

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00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: So the Panthers in general, and this whole transition with

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton, to me, I think you should be worried because, Okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe he'll come back in a week and everything

810
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: will be smooth sailing after that. And maybe I'm wrong,

811
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: but a shoulder surgery is a really serious thing, and

812
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Speaker 1: I think this last week points out that it's not

813
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Speaker 1: always going to be a smooth road back, and they're

814
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Speaker 1: missing a lot of really valuable time installing the offense.

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Speaker 1: And I think if you're a Colts fan with Andrew Luck,

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Speaker 1: you entered training camp not knowing anything, and you know

817
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Speaker 1: even less now he has not been close to practicing,

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Speaker 1: and we're two weeks in the fact that Luck he

819
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Speaker 1: a complete mystery, and you wrote about it in your

820
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Speaker 1: column that you know, just the fact you know. Pagano

821
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Speaker 1: was trying to take positive out of the fact that

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Speaker 1: he was merely on the sideline watching his teammates over

823
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Speaker 1: the weekend as some side a minor sign of progress

824
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Speaker 1: just shows how much in the fog they are right now.

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Speaker 1: It seems about what this guy's gonna be able to

826
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Speaker 1: give to him. You're right, both both those cases, the

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Speaker 1: shoulder thing, it's scary. Yeah, if you're a cold spanning

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Speaker 1: you want to look on the optimis on the optimistic

829
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Speaker 1: side that their general manager, Chris Ballard continues to your

830
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Speaker 1: favorite type of frogs, continues to insist that luck will

831
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Speaker 1: be ready for week one. Well, he you got to

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Speaker 1: parse his words a little. He said he won't be

833
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Speaker 1: on populist, that they're not going to do that. I

834
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Speaker 1: don't know if that's saying he's gonna be ready for

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Speaker 1: week one. I think he's practicing, right, I think that's

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Speaker 1: just saying he's we're not putting him on the populist

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Speaker 1: so that they would indicate they think he'll be ready

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Speaker 1: in the first five weeks for sure. I don't know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you would think he would need to start practice. And

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Speaker 1: I think Cam's point. Cam's injury points out, Okay, just

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Speaker 1: because you return to practice doesn't mean you're ready to play,

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Speaker 1: or that you're gonna have the same arm strength or

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Speaker 1: you know a lot of people watching him to his

844
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Speaker 1: practice that he wasn't throwing deep yet. It's just it's

845
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Speaker 1: it's a worrisome factor for two teams kind of up

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Speaker 1: in the area now still today's August seven, so you

847
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: don't want to go crazy. But if if Luck and

848
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: Newton um well Newton, yeah, it would be equally alarming.

849
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: Uh if Newton was out for another week after this,

850
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: But they have to probably start getting in the mix

851
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: by mid heading into late August to have a shot

852
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: to start week one. But we'll see. Because you don't

853
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: just want Cam Newton back, you want Cam Newton playing

854
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: as well as Cam Newton can you know, like an

855
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: ineffective Cam Newton is not gonna be fun to watch

856
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: either if he's back for week one. Why does a

857
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: couple of Benjamin by the way have wobbly legs? A

858
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: medical term that was yeah, he did not. He did

859
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: not participate in the fan fest or some of the

860
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: team drills, and they said he had a couple of

861
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: days of wobbly legs. You're a horse, they shoot you.

862
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: I don't like set West. Give me a winner or

863
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: maybe a winner. Yeah, sorry for starting counterbalanced that. Here's

864
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: one that is not in Gregg's article, and I don't

865
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: think a lot of people are talking about it. Kirk

866
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: Cousins in March, everybody assumed he's gonna have a down

867
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: year because Deshan Jackson and Pierre Garson, two established receivers,

868
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: two thousand yard guys leave the organization. I think the

869
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: guys they have now, even though they're younger and the

870
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: floor is lower, the ceiling is higher. I think Terrell

871
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: Prior is showing that he's gonna be a real number

872
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: one receiver, a Pro Bowl type of guy. Josh Dockson

873
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 1: just came down with day to day hamstring, but has

874
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: been making plays in training camp, and you know all

875
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: this talk about Jamison Crowder in the off season. He

876
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: might be their number three guy because Dockson is a

877
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: first round draft pick, very talented. Uh And Terrell Prior

878
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 1: I think is ready to make that leap to Pro Bowl.

879
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: So I think Kirk Cousins is in great shape I

880
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: should have. This is why I should consult with West

881
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: before I do these winners and losers columns. I should

882
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: put that in there. What about Sean McVeigh not being around.

883
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: It's a fair point because I really think he's a

884
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: smart guy. But that's I mean, that's Jake Run's offense.

885
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: You read this. There was this Jerry Brewer column in

886
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: the Washington Post and prior and after reading that, I

887
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: don't know, I was convinced kind of what you're saying

888
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: that he is ready to take another step. We forget

889
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: that this guy can get a lot better. And again,

890
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: what do we not know? Why did not why did

891
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns say let's let's get out of this investment?

892
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: Now they offered am eight million dollars a year. Well,

893
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: you've been hinting for a year that there's a lot

894
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: of smoke there, so there's gotta be some fire, right.

895
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: I can't say, you know, yeah, this is so, but

896
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: this is more your instincts here. No, I actually know

897
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: beyond that, let's beyond that. I really would love to

898
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: know what actually spooked the Browns some really aggressive If

899
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: this guy is gonna break out the way you think

900
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: could happen this year, it's it's remarkable that the Browns

901
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: will let him get away. But we'll see, we'll see.

902
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: I'll throw up, let's see, I don't want to go. Okay,

903
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 1: let's do another winner. You brought up troll prior prior,

904
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: I'll throw out Nelson Aglar And this guy is getting

905
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: a lot of pop right now. Alright, I like with

906
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: Celia said something I liked on the Friday Show. So

907
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna borrow sesslers m here wish cast?

908
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: Is it a little bit wish casting by the Eagles

909
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: now And we're gonna get to a dj reporters well

910
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: in a second, but that based on strong spring practices

911
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 1: and before we even get to the preseason, this idea

912
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: now that he's going to potentially just now make this

913
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: leap and become the guy that they've been waiting for

914
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: three years basically for him to become so winner in

915
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: the sense that everybody seems to think Nelson Agilar is

916
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: now going to be a hot shot this season, but

917
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: also a little doll of skepticism on my part, just

918
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: I want to see him actually playing some games and

919
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: making some plays against opponents. Uh and uh. I'd say

920
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: dj J is a winner because he makes the comment

921
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: on on apparently as a podcast on this network. But

922
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: he said the Moving Sticks Moving the Sticks podcast, Um,

923
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: he moving in with the sticks. He's podcast with Bucky Brooks.

924
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: Hey sticks come out in um. Anyway, he said that

925
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: he was certain that Nelson was going to get some

926
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,479
Speaker 1: Nelson Agal was gonna get some work out in the slot.

927
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: What was that mean for Jordan Matthews. And then Matthews

928
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: starts sniping a DJ a little bit, and DJ is

929
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: too nice a guy to to go back clap back

930
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: at Jordan Matthews. And I won't do it on his behalf,

931
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: but I'll say Jordan Matthews being ultra sensitive about it,

932
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 1: DJ very plugged into the Eagles. Eagles wanted DJ bad

933
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: to get to to work with them. That you used

934
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: to work in that building, he's probably knows that he's

935
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: talking about in this case. Well, two things on this

936
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: agilar since all this came out, keep separating from defensive

937
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: backs better than any receiver on the Eagles roster and

938
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: also is starting to drop the ball again. But but

939
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: his one telling thing, and this was on Monday. They

940
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: asked uh, the offensive coordinator about it, and he he

941
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: essentially admitted, well, yeah, our plans are gonna be a

942
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: little different in the slot. Well yeah, so that he

943
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: They're they're not saying it, you know, and they're saying

944
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: everything is a competition right now. They were asking, well,

945
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: what about Jordan Matthews. He said everything is a competition now,

946
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: so now you know they're coming out publicly and more

947
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: or less confirming what DJ saying. Well, then while we're

948
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: on it, let's throw Jordan Matthews into the losers because

949
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 1: they're turning him into the Michael Kendricks of the offensive

950
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: side of the ball. What's his rule? Why? I think

951
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: his role might be getting traded? Oh? No, is Jordan

952
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: Matthews about to become the number one wide receiver of

953
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: the Jets for like the third round or or the

954
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,479
Speaker 1: Texans the Bills were another one that came to mind.

955
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: The Texans could really use a uh could really use

956
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: a receiver, And I think that could be that could

957
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: be a fit. I mean, they got Braxton Miller, but

958
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 1: if you think about if you go through a team

959
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 1: by team who needs a slot receiver, and there are

960
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: not many teams at all. Texans though Braxton Miller's a

961
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: slot receiver. That's where he's been training since they drafted.

962
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: But is he between him and Jalen Strong? I mean,

963
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: that is a bad two three combo. I feel like

964
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 1: that's just just throwing it out there. I mean, Greg,

965
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: you're up well and and I did want to stick

966
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: up for DJ, by the way quickly because he took

967
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,280
Speaker 1: he went after him for his mock draft accuracy, right,

968
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, whild researching for this winners and losers.

969
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: I found some random Eagles article that was like, well, actually,

970
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 1: and they went through DJs apparently they score the mock

971
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 1: drafts ractreacy and they showed they were like, actually, DJ

972
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: has been uh performing at a very high level for

973
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 1: four straight years. Sorry, Jordan Matthews, he got banged. Alright,

974
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: very good, All right, you're up. I'm gonna give another

975
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: winner one that wasn't in the column, you know, just

976
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: a little extra here for our podcast list. Uh. Jimmy

977
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: Graham has not been talked about much on this podcast

978
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: for a long time, but I thought it was really

979
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: telling that Pete Carroll said how limited he was in

980
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: terms of what they could do with him in practice

981
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: last year, that they were careful with him because he

982
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: was coming back from that surgery, and yet he was

983
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: still pretty effective on the field. And from the reports

984
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: at Seahawks training camp, the fact he's down fifteen to

985
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: twenty pounds and people just saying that he's looking really

986
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: good and he's a full go practicing fully every day.

987
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: I feel good about Jimmy Graham. If you're drafting in

988
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: fantasy leagues. I like a little Jimmy Graham come back

989
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: this year. The coolest thing about Jimmy Graham is that

990
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: some days in training camp he flies his own plane

991
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: and lands it right there on the shores of Lake

992
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: Washington and shows up the training camp like that. It's

993
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: kind Yeah, you're definitely, You're definitely a winner. You're a

994
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: winner just for that. That's a baller move. It's true.

995
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: It's true. He rushed his patellar tendon, which is one

996
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: of the worst injuries you could have. He beat the timetable,

997
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: came back last year. Was the same kind of a

998
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: red zone dude that could do damage, had nice numbers.

999
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: He makes sense now. We talked about that injury a lot.

1000
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: Will we ever get back to being the same type

1001
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: of Jimmy Graham Unknown, but it seems to be trending

1002
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: in the right direction. Losing weight probably helps that. West

1003
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: give us one another guy not on Greg's list. Uh this,

1004
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: I didn't think you got you guys would pick off

1005
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: the list anyhow. You know, Dirk Cutter likes to brag

1006
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: about how he's doing this whole and stick routine with

1007
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: Doug Martin. Do you know who did the best carrot

1008
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,479
Speaker 1: routine throughout the off season Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch

1009
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: with Carlos Hide comes into shape and the best comes

1010
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: into camp the best shape his life. Everybody's talking about

1011
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: how he's gonna lose his job. He's one of the

1012
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: best players in the field in their training camp, and

1013
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: he's in a great offense for his talent. I think

1014
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: Carlos Hide is going to have a career year. This

1015
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 1: ship not so subtle shot across Greg's bow. Your response, Greg,

1016
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: you know, I maybe I got some bad information. Maybe

1017
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: they were putting it out there that he was that

1018
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: he needed to show up the camp. You know, they

1019
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: were trying to motivate that. Part of the carrot routine

1020
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: was getting NFL insiders. And and I'm not taking the

1021
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: l on that until we're at week one and he

1022
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: hasn't been traded. Who knows, maybe they still trade him.

1023
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that you asked Evan Silva to run

1024
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 1: with that report either. It's fair, it's fair. I'm gonna

1025
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: he actually did check with me, Okay, sure go why

1026
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give a loser then a uh and then

1027
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: kind of a speed round, quick winner, and you guys

1028
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: can do one more quick as well. Um a losers

1029
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: called Papernick. I don't we don't need to go into

1030
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: deep deep dive on this, but he couldn't get the

1031
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 1: job in Baltimore. In fact, we might see another missive

1032
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: by the Ravens at some point, an update on their situation,

1033
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: um about whether they've made a decision or not. But

1034
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: you would think at this point, if it hasn't happened yet,

1035
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen in Baltimore. Miami doesn't look like

1036
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: he was ever really considered because they quickly uh pounced

1037
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: on Jay Cutler as their guy. Um, I know, Greg,

1038
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: you you talked about the Seahawks. Maybe I think the

1039
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: acts can make sense. Travon Boyken reportedly not playing well

1040
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: at all at Teahawks camp. But if it's not the Seahawks,

1041
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: then who is it. He might actually not get a job,

1042
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: which I thought all along he would eventually get a job,

1043
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 1: but now I would say it's more likely he doesn't. Uh,

1044
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: we'll see about that. And then my winner we kind

1045
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: of brought we brought them up a little earlier. But

1046
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: Tom Savage, I think is because Tom Savage, if I

1047
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: had a guess one guy coming out of the draft

1048
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: who was in greatest danger of losing, UH, losing a

1049
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: quarterback competition to a rookie, I would have said was him.

1050
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: With them UH selecting to Shaun Watson and the amount

1051
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: of hype around that pick and the way ownership is

1052
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: in Houston, I thought that Savage is in a lot

1053
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: of trouble. But apparently, at least heading into the preseason,

1054
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: everyone says that Tom Savage is a head on the cards.

1055
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins is all amped up about him, calling him

1056
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback. You could not have asked for a

1057
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Speaker 1: better start to training camp, uh, in terms of what

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Speaker 1: people are saying about you and how you're playing than

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Speaker 1: Tom Savage, who might be real if the practice reports

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Speaker 1: are right, they've both played well that that Watson has

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Speaker 1: come in and been a little better than expected and

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Speaker 1: Savage has just had a getting better with the competition.

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Speaker 1: Al Right, Greg one more? Alright? How about a couple

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Speaker 1: the Bay area Smith? How about that for connecting two

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Speaker 1: things that they'll make any sense? Malcolm Smith signs a

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Speaker 1: big free agent deal. UH in San Francisco. Was the

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Speaker 1: one guy that knew that defense that was supposed to

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Speaker 1: help teach it. He's now out for the season. Sean

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Speaker 1: Smith in Oakland, who has guaranteed more than nine million

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Speaker 1: dollars this year or he might be on the way out,

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Speaker 1: was demoted to second string cornerback, number four cornerback on

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Speaker 1: the team, behind an undrafted rookie and uh a second

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Speaker 1: year players third year player in t J. Kerry. This

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Speaker 1: is before their first round pick is even back on

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Speaker 1: the field. They demoted Sean Smith for playing poorly, so

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Speaker 1: if that money wasn't guaranteed, he might be on the

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Speaker 1: way out. They've got him playing nickel linebacker. They had

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Speaker 1: him yet then the third or fourth thing, they're just

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Speaker 1: like trying to find something for him to do. The

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Speaker 1: Custodian this is a good one that is on Greg's list.

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Speaker 1: The two thousand seventeen Chargers rookie draft class, they you

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Speaker 1: could argue strong argument they had the best two thousand

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Speaker 1: sixteen rookie class. Joey Boza, hunter, Henry Davis, Brown, kicker, punter,

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Speaker 1: they fullback Derek Watt. They had a really impactful draft class.

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Speaker 1: They've already lost their first round pick and what their

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Speaker 1: second or third round pick round pick second round pick

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Speaker 1: from this year's draft. This is a very auspicious beginning

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Speaker 1: for the Chargers draft class. Very true. All right, there

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Speaker 1: you go. Those are the takeaways from the early portion

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Speaker 1: of training camp the preseason kicks off. Does the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame game technically count as a preseason game standalone entity?

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Speaker 1: How do they break ties in the preseason standings? In

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Speaker 1: if you go five and oh you're the change? Damn.

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Speaker 1: But an advantage for America's team, big big win last

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Speaker 1: week now now looms even larger now that I know

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Speaker 1: it's technically part of the standings. They they'll win even

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Speaker 1: if another team goes undefeated. They win by half a game, Well,

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Speaker 1: you gotta win four more. But yeah, hey, halfway there

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Speaker 1: home maybe anyway, we'll be back on Wednesday. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: what I say? Halfway there? It was the thirty nine,

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Speaker 1: and I thought maybe it was unfair to me. Uh

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Speaker 1: from a cold town. It was not right. Uh. Preseason

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Speaker 1: starts in earnest Thursday. That's what I was trying to

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Speaker 1: get to. So we'll be talking about what we see

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Speaker 1: in those games on Friday. On Wednesday, we'll be back.

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks Uh premieres Tuesday. Uh. All the other NFL

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Speaker 1: news fit to talk about. Make sure you give us

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Speaker 1: a check in on the iTunes. If you haven't, give

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Speaker 1: us the five star ratings the comments. We might might

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Speaker 1: even talk about your comment on this very podcast if

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Speaker 1: it's witty enough or smarmy enough or down, down down,

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Speaker 1: and you can watch Wednesday show. Of course, that's our

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Speaker 1: video show. But let's talk about that one. Get to it.

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Speaker 1: That's it for today. This is Dan Hansons signing off

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Speaker 1: for The mail Man and the earst wild Boss, of

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Speaker 1: course is Sully behind the Glass until Wednesday