Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Salers Podcast with your host. Now fuck that with your
Speaker 1: loaw glasses, Malone, My man Jobs back in the house.
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Jobs is really an incredible uh podcaster, one of my
Speaker 1: favorite people to have a conversation with because he definitely
Speaker 1: gonna get to it and he gonna ask you the
Speaker 1: hard question, tell him the name of your podcast job Intellectually.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Charlotte Maine, who is the president of
Speaker 1: this network on intellectually Petty Radio for him and Job
Speaker 1: to have a conversation because I think it'll be an
Speaker 1: explosive conversation and that's that's the goal, because it's all about,
Speaker 1: like me and Pete talked about handling people dreams last week,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, making sure we try to
Speaker 1: help make other people's know what they want to happen
Speaker 1: come true. You know what I'm saying, whether it's a
Speaker 1: dream or not. My niece asked me something and it
Speaker 1: blew me away. Shout up to my niece DJ and
Speaker 1: a really smart, smart, smart young.
Speaker 4: Woman lower right. For those of you who are wondering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you and if you're not watching, because
Speaker 1: this ain't a live stream, this is DJA, introduce yourself.
Speaker 1: I don't really do this on those sillings, but I'm
Speaker 1: a doer for DJNA.
Speaker 3: Well, my stage name is Nay only my mother calls
Speaker 3: me Djna. My family calls me Nana, but you can
Speaker 3: call me Nay. I'm just a person that just does
Speaker 3: a lot of cool stuff. I even put myself in
Speaker 3: a box. But yeah, me and my uncle have these
Speaker 3: conversations because I really have faith in the intellect of
Speaker 3: the world. But I think I'm just starting to realize
Speaker 3: that people are just stupid.
Speaker 5: And I have to be.
Speaker 3: Okay with people just being stupid, but I just be like,
Speaker 3: why are not using your brain?
Speaker 5: So I'm working on my own show, trying to learn
Speaker 5: the live.
Speaker 3: Stream and stuff called cultural conversations, and we're just gonna
Speaker 3: explore that, you know, Avenue, white people are just really stupid.
Speaker 5: It just frustrates me. It really frustrates me.
Speaker 4: That's great, It's like my favorite things.
Speaker 6: Man. I don't think people are stupid.
Speaker 1: I mean, here's things people are stupid, silence things, people
Speaker 1: are stupid, pete things people are stupid.
Speaker 3: I don't people are really stupid, and because I have faith,
Speaker 3: I have faith in them like y'all, not like God
Speaker 3: gave y'all that brain.
Speaker 5: I have faith, But every I just get disappointed every.
Speaker 1: Time I bought my man, Joey west Side to get
Speaker 1: in on this conversation.
Speaker 6: So we got to take our time.
Speaker 1: Joey west Side one third or the one ten super
Speaker 1: group out of the West Coast, one half of the
Speaker 1: La Gihnson, just an overall good brother. And of course
Speaker 1: me and Peter here this is no siblings right here,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And we're finna get to
Speaker 1: it really easy. My niece Pete was asking me, so
Speaker 1: back to that point before we get for it. I
Speaker 1: think people are distracted. I don't think people are stupid.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're incapable of learning. Pete disagrees with me.
Speaker 1: I understand, but people are not incapable of learning. It
Speaker 1: just takes different work to teach different people certain things,
Speaker 1: and it's not easy. We don't all learn the same way,
Speaker 1: and it's just not fair, but we don't. But people
Speaker 1: aren't stupid, they're just distracted. Their own life makes it
Speaker 1: makes it really tough for them to listen, you know,
Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's hard for people to let
Speaker 1: alone iq intellect. Rather, it's something that's like a gift
Speaker 1: that ain't even normal. Everybody don't have intellect, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I try my best not to really,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, focused on that because I
Speaker 1: focused on trying to teach people. But my niece asked
Speaker 1: me something Pete that I thought was crazy, and it
Speaker 1: was something that Jobs told me before too, because me
Speaker 1: and Jobs had this incredible conversation again y'all check it out,
Speaker 1: but we were talking about blackness and it was something
Speaker 1: to that effect of what being black is all about,
Speaker 1: and I had critigue for somebody in their pursuit of
Speaker 1: highest excellency peep of blackness. He was like, well, how
Speaker 1: are you gonna say something You're a crip? And it
Speaker 1: threw me off so crazy because I was like, well,
Speaker 1: what does that mean that I'm a crypt and you know,
Speaker 1: are black. That's not the point he was saying, because
Speaker 1: obviously the stigma and the misinformation about crips. There is
Speaker 1: some validity to some of the conversation, but there's a
Speaker 1: lot of misinformation. And my niece brought it up to
Speaker 1: me again She was like, why do people think gang
Speaker 1: members are stupid? And I just thought that that made
Speaker 1: for a great conversation because this is one of those
Speaker 1: misconceptions where I brought Jobs, because Jobs is somebody that
Speaker 1: is from Detroit and he understands, you know, he has
Speaker 1: a very outside perspective of gangs. Pete, even though you're
Speaker 1: from Orange County, you still kind of know gangsters, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You know, actually some pretty high
Speaker 1: level guys.
Speaker 7: Joey.
Speaker 1: You grew up in the smack dead middle of South
Speaker 1: Central in the eighties, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: in the eightieth Street area of Los Angeles, right, So
Speaker 1: it's like you have a perception from being close enough
Speaker 1: to it, you know what I mean. And then obviously
Speaker 1: my niece is the same, and I've ta'ma crypt, so
Speaker 1: I have all insight information. So I thought this would
Speaker 1: be a great conversation for people to listen to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you think, Nana is the greatest misconception of
Speaker 1: people thinking that I'm a crypt?
Speaker 6: Means what exactly?
Speaker 3: Well, it's kind of hard because we all grew up
Speaker 3: in the same house, so I like, it was a
Speaker 3: long time before I actually knew what I was doing.
Speaker 3: I think like Robert had got like shot or something
Speaker 3: before I knew, like, oh my gosh, they're gang bangers,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? So y'all are not like spooky,
Speaker 3: Oh I'm gonna scare you, Rob Like that's not how
Speaker 3: it works. And you know, I'm a spiritual girl. He
Speaker 3: So it's like war and tribalism skims way beyond the streets.
Speaker 3: So I think that movies and and like society has
Speaker 3: painted this picture of what a gang banger is, and
Speaker 3: that LA has like this, we have the best marketing
Speaker 3: in branding for gangs. So people have the stereotype and
Speaker 3: it's like, no, these are people who are like humans,
Speaker 3: multifaceted people. They're like intelligent, like y'all didn't wake up
Speaker 3: one day and say, oh I want to grow up
Speaker 3: and be a crip, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like y' are humans yet?
Speaker 5: Right? So I just so confused.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Josh, what do you see y'all? As you know,
Speaker 1: because you from you're out of Detroit. You you obviously
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you got a decade on me in
Speaker 1: wisdom and time.
Speaker 6: You've been on this earth a little longer.
Speaker 2: Damn old in fact, nigga, and I disagree with y'all.
Speaker 6: That is not what I said. I am, I don't care,
Speaker 6: No I did. It's not Oh, I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You have a decade on me for sure, being on
Speaker 1: this earth, so you know more than me. What do
Speaker 1: you disagree like? What do you feel people like? What
Speaker 1: do you think game? What do you think it means
Speaker 1: to be a gang member?
Speaker 2: It means it made a bad decision in life?
Speaker 6: Did you yes? What's the decision? You mad?
Speaker 2: Give me the lifespan your average game banker that doesn't
Speaker 2: include prison?
Speaker 6: Oh, I've heard my whole life. Twenty five is the number.
Speaker 2: But I think average gang banker that you're familiar with
Speaker 2: in your city, your area of your community, that doesn't
Speaker 2: include death or prison.
Speaker 6: You said, what's the lifespan?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: How about this? What's the percentage? What's the percentage of fact,
Speaker 4: never get killed?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: No, no, that that number got to be very minute.
Speaker 1: That number gotta probably be like fifteen percent.
Speaker 2: If your wife is a business, how is becoming a
Speaker 2: crypt a good business decision? You don't become a crypto.
Speaker 2: That's why jobs you There are there are rules, No,
Speaker 2: there is there is an initiation. No it's a decision
Speaker 2: you make.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: Oh, so they so they come, they come kick your
Speaker 2: door in at three o'clock in the morning and say, nigga,
Speaker 2: you cripping.
Speaker 4: So of the residents and neighborhoods that have a gang
Speaker 4: a tribute to that neighborhood geographic area are members.
Speaker 6: Yeah for the most part.
Speaker 4: Please come on, bro okay, come on, come on, like really, come.
Speaker 6: On, it's new on.
Speaker 2: They have to abide by the gooniness of other niggas.
Speaker 6: Is no gooniness or nothing.
Speaker 2: Yr niggas is telling niggas in your neighborhood you can't
Speaker 2: do certain shit nigga because you live near me.
Speaker 6: That's not true.
Speaker 2: You're kidding me.
Speaker 6: That's not how it goes.
Speaker 2: You're gonna tell me that some nigga in your set
Speaker 2: is okay to openly disagree with the crips and agree
Speaker 2: with the Bloods or whatever whoever your ops are. No nigga,
Speaker 2: y'all gonna move that nigga in certain ways.
Speaker 6: What do you mean to agree with them?
Speaker 2: Just what I said? What do you mean you don't
Speaker 2: have the option, as Joe Blow citizen to say fuck
Speaker 2: the crips and you live in a crypt neighborhood.
Speaker 1: That's like, that's like saying jobs. If somebody living next
Speaker 1: door to you they said, uh, fuck black.
Speaker 2: People, I'm not gonna go beat them up niggas.
Speaker 6: That's a lie. No, I'm not as you will.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm fifty two years old or nobody in your neighbor
Speaker 1: black people. Nobody in your neighborhood would beat them up
Speaker 1: if they said.
Speaker 6: Fuck black people.
Speaker 2: Not in my neighborhood.
Speaker 6: No, so nobody where you grew up at the old white.
Speaker 2: Dude next door to me. Man, No, no, not a brass
Speaker 2: as they come, and we know that.
Speaker 1: Not fifty two year old jobs, twenty two year old jobs.
Speaker 1: Let's say a white man moved next to your house
Speaker 1: and said, you know what, fuck niggers. That's why I
Speaker 1: met with it. I don't want niggers on my grass
Speaker 1: at twenty two. Yes, I agree with you exactly.
Speaker 2: That's a four business decision on my part, though I
Speaker 2: allowed this man to control my energy to lead me
Speaker 2: in a position that's not conducive to be me being
Speaker 2: successful long term.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, But again, poverty means success doesn't dictate everything.
Speaker 1: That's not the reason to be alive. Like the reason
Speaker 1: to be alive is not business. The reason to be
Speaker 1: alive is not all of these things that we decide
Speaker 1: we want to live for, because it could mean probably
Speaker 1: would be selling out a lot of things.
Speaker 6: What do you stand for? Okay, if you just stand
Speaker 6: for hey.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 1: I just want to make a lot of money, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. There's a lot of different decisions
Speaker 1: we can all make. But let's go back to.
Speaker 3: We have to go into like how do people view
Speaker 3: like the Black Panther Party, Like how do people you
Speaker 3: other types of groups? Are militias are gains? Like are
Speaker 3: is going to the army of bad business decisions?
Speaker 1: A great business decision because it's legal, Like does the
Speaker 1: presidents of state said everything you think is right and wrong?
Speaker 8: The legal the legalities definitely play a part in that.
Speaker 8: For sure, the fact that it's legal, people will say
Speaker 8: it's a good decision.
Speaker 1: But at that point in you have to behest of
Speaker 1: whatever the state tells you is correct, which at one time.
Speaker 8: The period any people feel like the law is right
Speaker 8: no matter what, because it's the rules. It's like, it's
Speaker 8: the rules of the world, So why wouldn't you follow
Speaker 8: them if you know you're gonna get in trouble if
Speaker 8: you don't follow them.
Speaker 1: But benefit though, and peach point is is simple, right,
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna make peak point. The laws are what
Speaker 1: most people or the idea of society come together and said,
Speaker 1: these are the rules. In all fairness, the rules don't
Speaker 1: fit everybody, They're not designed too. So then why would
Speaker 1: so as a person that lives his life outside of
Speaker 1: the law, why would I be stupid? Or why is
Speaker 1: it bad business?
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this. I'm sorry, Pete, but
Speaker 2: you're you're a gang member, you got stripes, niggas love you,
Speaker 2: you got all the respect, the women crazy for you,
Speaker 2: and then your girl gets pregnant. And in that instance,
Speaker 2: are you saying, damn, I hope my son grows up
Speaker 2: to be a great crip.
Speaker 6: No, I don't want to raise him in the same community.
Speaker 5: Well some people have.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't sure you.
Speaker 4: There's a connotation with that though, that's not possive.
Speaker 6: But again, again, these are economic things.
Speaker 4: Like it's not an economically good decision.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm saying these are the economic side of it.
Speaker 1: It's actually a fantastic economic decision. That's another thing.
Speaker 4: It's not a short sighted economic decisions.
Speaker 6: No, it's long term.
Speaker 4: No, it's not.
Speaker 6: It is not period one of the greatest long term
Speaker 6: decisions I ever made.
Speaker 4: Get you, you're very very rare.
Speaker 1: Again, how the type of persons, not the anomaly, the
Speaker 1: type of person you are determines a type of crip
Speaker 1: you're going to be. So again, some things that we
Speaker 1: are blaming on cripping is more an indication of somebody
Speaker 1: being a dick. Like right, it's like just because like
Speaker 1: being a crip or a blood or POWERU is an
Speaker 1: outlaw organization. They don't advocate like the sexual sort of women.
Speaker 1: That's not accepted. Like there are still standards that you
Speaker 1: are supposed to live with.
Speaker 2: Are you serious?
Speaker 6: Bro, I'm telling you the truth.
Speaker 8: So that's not it happens butt that y'all go to parties.
Speaker 2: Ya y'all not feeling up on the ass.
Speaker 4: Up even even removing that Like that's really.
Speaker 3: Like I just told my uncle the other day, the
Speaker 3: only time I never felt safe in Watts was when
Speaker 3: there was like a child molester. I never not felt
Speaker 3: safe in Watts with knowing gang bangers from all different hoods,
Speaker 3: I never not feel safe. But if I knew it
Speaker 3: was somebody who was kidnapping kids or something. That's when
Speaker 3: I didn't feel safe scary. But I'm saying I grew
Speaker 3: up in a house full of gang bangers and I never,
Speaker 3: not once, not.
Speaker 7: Long to them. Because your family is your friends.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Two items like with regard to like the military parallel,
Speaker 4: there is amidst the conflict of military usage and dispersement.
Speaker 4: While there are civilian casualties, there are also civilian beneficiaries.
Speaker 4: I don't see a decent scale of civilian beneficiaries to
Speaker 4: gang banging. Usually the beneficial juries are consolidated to the membership. Additionally,
Speaker 4: there's a difference between you not feeling safe being around
Speaker 4: a neighborhood full of gang bangers and for the gang
Speaker 4: bangers themselves not to be exposed to an enormous amount
Speaker 4: of risk for the participation within the activities.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, you don't you feel very
Speaker 2: safe and watch you should feel safe period. However, I
Speaker 2: drop you in Compton if and I'm an outsider, I
Speaker 2: just see shit on TV. Compton is more more bloods.
Speaker 1: No, no, it's more crips and lost only place in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, in the County of Los Angeles that has
Speaker 1: more bloods is Inglewood.
Speaker 2: We'll say you. I'll drop you off from Inglewood at
Speaker 2: three o'clock in the morning with a blue rag glued
Speaker 2: to your forehead. Do you feel safe?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Really, you're an anomaly because the rest of us are
Speaker 2: scared shit.
Speaker 3: Because I have this idea that gang bangers are Boogeyman
Speaker 3: and that's what they are.
Speaker 2: No, I have this idea that they subscribe and practice
Speaker 2: what they say they do.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but but but what that?
Speaker 2: Huh? Why would you just I should assume y'all lions?
Speaker 5: Why would they mess with you? Though? Like? What? What? Why?
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 6: His question to me.
Speaker 1: He's saying, if, as a crip, if I went over
Speaker 1: there with a blue rag and I went to Inglewood,
Speaker 1: could there be a problem.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I've been pressed by gang bangers before just shopping.
Speaker 7: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: But I would have I would have the same problem though,
Speaker 1: jobs if I went to Russia and I had an
Speaker 1: American flag glued on my head, I would have that
Speaker 1: same problem you would.
Speaker 2: How do you actually think, though, that cripping is a country?
Speaker 6: It is? My country is my nation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but your country is the size of Detroit.
Speaker 6: Facts, but does that means that I have us.
Speaker 2: The rest of us have a view that y'all niggas
Speaker 2: participated in giving.
Speaker 6: Us no no I think, I think.
Speaker 1: Okay, So remember Hollywood painted the picture like Hollywood painted
Speaker 1: the picture of what you know about gangs, and then
Speaker 1: there's the actual nuance of gangs. So where colors said, hey,
Speaker 1: it's blue versus red, and maybe to some degree, I ironically, there's.
Speaker 4: Certain lines where that's true. There's certain lines where it's
Speaker 4: not true.
Speaker 1: Depends on twenty pete when you think about it, because
Speaker 1: bloods didn't really pick up red rags until maybe the
Speaker 1: late seventies, you know what I mean. The whole idea
Speaker 1: of red versus blue is explained really loosely. It's heightened
Speaker 1: and condensed right for people to get what's going on,
Speaker 1: but it's not actually nuanced to say that the relationship
Speaker 1: between communities. Look, one thing I don't want to do
Speaker 1: on this podcast is to defend gang banging. That's that's
Speaker 1: not the point. If you grow up in poor communities,
Speaker 1: poor people bond together, create these crews, and they don't
Speaker 1: care about what the laws say. They gonna make something
Speaker 1: of their life. That's as simple as a gang is.
Speaker 1: That's all it is that's.
Speaker 2: A fraction of our community. Most poor people work, pay
Speaker 2: their taxes and die. Sure, so they don't rob anybody.
Speaker 2: They don't tell nobody.
Speaker 1: Don't think rob Robin Robin has nothing to do with gangs.
Speaker 6: That's not a part of the function. That's just.
Speaker 2: You don't have to rob what. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: Let's say you guys are the nicest people in the
Speaker 2: history of nice niggas. Why do you ask people where
Speaker 2: they're from?
Speaker 6: Because they could be a threat to my existence and
Speaker 6: asking them a question? Yes, would you you know if
Speaker 6: I can if I understand.
Speaker 4: Threat to me or not?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 6: Simple?
Speaker 4: I get that.
Speaker 2: You assume a threat. You don't ask a threat.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the fairness of cripping. I don't like cripping
Speaker 1: is to ask you are you a threat? Are you
Speaker 1: a part of a community.
Speaker 4: That's like, no one asked me where I'm from. I
Speaker 4: get asked, do you know where you're at? That's what
Speaker 4: I get asked. I don't get asked where you're from?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the closest I got to get rolled up on
Speaker 4: hard You know this is the liquor store on Confident
Speaker 4: ninety second. Oh yeah, about one fifty eight with some
Speaker 4: girl from one hundred and thirteenth trying to get a bottle.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I was like they though I was.
Speaker 4: I was about to leave my car with her in it.
Speaker 4: I was gonna clock the first guy because I seen
Speaker 4: him coming in, and I'm like, they're gonna fuck me
Speaker 4: on the way out, and they kind of like, get
Speaker 4: by the doors. I'm coming out. I'm like, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: clock the first guy on the right, booking around the corner.
Speaker 2: I'm one year out of college, I'm.
Speaker 7: Out of there.
Speaker 4: And as I walk out, the police pulled into the lots,
Speaker 4: so it didn't have to do it. And I was
Speaker 4: still concerned about the police because I was already tossed.
Speaker 6: As soon as I pull off, they gonna pull me over.
Speaker 6: And to give you a drunk driving might be worse.
Speaker 6: No jobs, So okay, you don't go ahead.
Speaker 2: How much.
Speaker 4: Net worth money from downward asset value pressure on real
Speaker 4: estate has that created for all the homeowning residents in
Speaker 4: the greater South Central area over the years.
Speaker 1: Again, I think it's disingenuous to blame gang banging versus crack.
Speaker 1: Gang banging is what ruined it, because one thing gang
Speaker 1: banging never did was ruin one nine. Know you know
Speaker 1: you're familiar with the Dilamo area. I ain't got to
Speaker 1: tell you, Pete. You you be around Joey, you know
Speaker 1: about Delamo, Niece, you know about Guardina. There's gangs there,
Speaker 1: but the property do not lose an inch of value because.
Speaker 5: It's hard to say that Downy has freaking more time.
Speaker 3: I mean, big old mansions and there's gangs and Downy's
Speaker 3: like there's a whole.
Speaker 1: There's there's gangs in this particular area of Corson that
Speaker 1: we call Dilamo.
Speaker 6: Right, we're head and Jason Cash and all those.
Speaker 5: Guys mostly houses.
Speaker 1: Over there, the beautiful city. So again, gangs don't be
Speaker 1: value that if.
Speaker 4: You were to compare price per square footage there to
Speaker 4: other places, I'll tell you right now, white money is
Speaker 4: not going there, and that's most of the money.
Speaker 1: Well they watch now He's right, not really, you know what.
Speaker 1: You're making a great point, But it's not because they don't.
Speaker 1: They're not going there because crips and bloods are there.
Speaker 1: They not going there, Pete, because black people there.
Speaker 4: They view the two as being largely intertwined.
Speaker 6: Irresponsible in cowardice.
Speaker 4: You got it might be it might be that, but
Speaker 4: it's it's the truth.
Speaker 7: The truth of the matter is, you look at but.
Speaker 4: Johns didn't make it that way.
Speaker 5: Hold up.
Speaker 1: But the goal is also not to have white people
Speaker 1: come into the community to raise the value.
Speaker 4: Why would you not want to make money.
Speaker 2: The goal is really niggas not devaluing the community.
Speaker 6: But they they never did devalue the community.
Speaker 2: They cracked devalue in the community.
Speaker 4: No, that's not true, because it is.
Speaker 5: It is not.
Speaker 7: I'll prove that it's not.
Speaker 5: How are you serious, Yes, I.
Speaker 4: Will, yes, absolutely, yes, because you can go back and
Speaker 4: look at the trend of what was going on there
Speaker 4: relative to other areas in the decade preceding that.
Speaker 2: Where okay, but no, you're discounting the bullshit they pulled
Speaker 2: financially with the red lining and and all that ship like.
Speaker 2: You can't discount that because all of that ship before crack, Like,
Speaker 2: I'm winning the crack fucked us up. However, you can't
Speaker 2: hide your hand, bro y'all. Niggas had a lot to
Speaker 2: do with that.
Speaker 6: That's not true.
Speaker 4: I'm pressing that.
Speaker 2: They used the gangs. I would believe.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, they did not use the gangs. They
Speaker 6: use brothers period.
Speaker 1: That's not jobs. Can't do is tell me that criss
Speaker 1: and bloods is what the value or was used to
Speaker 1: push crack outside of every other brother around this country.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, at any point in the
Speaker 2: in the height of the gang era, could a random
Speaker 2: nigga stand on your block and sell dope without approval?
Speaker 7: Dealers? Are the dope users?
Speaker 2: The dope dealer?
Speaker 6: No, No, you have to be a part of the
Speaker 6: community to monetize it.
Speaker 2: That's so you can't sit up hereymous though.
Speaker 1: But hold on, Trump doesn't want you to earn in
Speaker 1: this country right now if you're not a citizen. Okay,
Speaker 1: So then what would be the difference based off of
Speaker 1: nation based concept a group of people trying to monetize
Speaker 1: the situation together.
Speaker 6: Why is it wrong that.
Speaker 4: Are being paid to be here? So that's different you guys.
Speaker 1: I'm saying Trump is trying to get rid of all that, right,
Speaker 1: and I can't disagree because I respect both concepts.
Speaker 6: I respect the.
Speaker 1: Fault the sense of humanitarian and democrats and liberals by
Speaker 1: saying everybody could come here and make a living, and
Speaker 1: I respect the conservative mind of the current or of
Speaker 1: coming in party where They're like, no, you need to
Speaker 1: come in the correct way. Either way, I'm fine with it.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying the jobs is no, gang banging
Speaker 1: had nothing to Okay, I can't say completely nothing, but
Speaker 1: it is not because I'm not sure, so I don't
Speaker 1: want to stand on the hill. But I know for
Speaker 1: sure based off the economics and warehouses was priced that
Speaker 1: and watching price curves. It happened way before gang banging
Speaker 1: it and it owns only since gang banging went up,
Speaker 1: it didn't.
Speaker 6: It never went down. It went up.
Speaker 1: Did it go up slower in places when crack It
Speaker 1: was around the mid eighties when crack, Remember gang banging
Speaker 1: wars started to happen because of crack money. Yes, like
Speaker 1: people couldn't afford them type of guns and weaponry in
Speaker 1: the in the in the seventies, they it wasn't a
Speaker 1: big gang violence. Like the biggest thing that happened in
Speaker 1: the seventies or one of the most talked about things
Speaker 1: is when they beat this guy up for his leather
Speaker 1: jacket in Hollywood and he died because they they beat
Speaker 1: him up, Like he died because of the fight.
Speaker 2: Crack didn't really jump off to the.
Speaker 3: Five.
Speaker 1: So again, so again, that's that's when the that's when
Speaker 1: the property started to devalue.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you that. Like I agree with the
Speaker 2: devaluating part. I do. I agree, you know, like I agree.
Speaker 2: My point is is even before the gangs were heavily
Speaker 2: into celling it themselves, you had to pay a tax.
Speaker 2: It's the same thing, bro, It's just were you not
Speaker 2: supposed to have.
Speaker 6: To do pay a tax to live in this country?
Speaker 2: If you don't have to pay your talks to break the.
Speaker 6: Law, let's why would you think you shouldn't.
Speaker 2: Why would you think you should?
Speaker 1: That's you paid so you feel like it's okay if
Speaker 1: the Uncle Sam extorts you. But if you mad if
Speaker 1: the community saying, hey, the same thing applies.
Speaker 2: To shoot back at y'all niggas true. As long as
Speaker 2: you can back at Uncle Sam, I'm gonna lose that.
Speaker 7: Question.
Speaker 4: While it is enormously financially and efficient tax system to
Speaker 4: public services apparatus, and I believe me, that's the service
Speaker 4: the understatement of the centry. But what would you say
Speaker 4: the localized public services are to non members proliferated by
Speaker 4: gangs via taxes and earnings earned by gangs.
Speaker 6: Nobody makes people that don't earn it illegally pay taxes.
Speaker 4: Not to understand that, But what are you doing with
Speaker 4: the taxes?
Speaker 6: No, again, you just won't be over here selling drugs.
Speaker 6: You don't get text.
Speaker 4: What are you doing with the revenue? Then? What services
Speaker 4: are being offered to the non members in the community
Speaker 4: via the revenue.
Speaker 1: They're not offering anything to the non members. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: but but the members themselves, because remember, everybody's a member.
Speaker 1: So even if somebody is not, like Joey is not
Speaker 1: from a tree, but Joey's from Atrey. I always tell
Speaker 1: him this right, No, he's not an a tra No,
Speaker 1: he never did the thought of initiation. Yes, he never
Speaker 1: had to go shoot a gun at somebody. But these
Speaker 1: are his family and friends. Rest is sure. If Joey
Speaker 1: is there every day he goes to the store and
Speaker 1: somebody jumps on one of his friends, he's gonna stand
Speaker 1: up for his friend and they'll be in a fight together.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be like, no, what I am not
Speaker 1: a part of this gang. I'm not doing That's pretty
Speaker 1: much everybody that grows up and said, community.
Speaker 4: Joey, what's up? Would you feel comfortable jumping on the
Speaker 4: verse and outwardly repping that you are eight trade gangster
Speaker 4: crypt No. No, okay, so then you're not a member.
Speaker 6: That's not hold on.
Speaker 8: I just said I know, I know what you Yeah,
Speaker 8: I know what you're saying, but technically no, But culturally yes,
Speaker 8: I represent. I represent where I grew up there. And
Speaker 8: when I represent that where I grew up, the streets
Speaker 8: I grew up on, the section I was in, and
Speaker 8: I mentioned certain things that's in that area, then people
Speaker 8: will be like, oh, that nigga from a tray where
Speaker 8: you grew up.
Speaker 4: At up there. Sure, but that's different than saying the
Speaker 4: other part.
Speaker 3: But that's just like kind of like at Howard, I
Speaker 3: didn't pledge Divine nine, but Howard is the mecca for
Speaker 3: all divine nine. So I have I know all the information,
Speaker 3: but I'm not.
Speaker 6: That is not the.
Speaker 2: Same thing because it's niggas in a trade that he
Speaker 2: don't like this niggas bretniggas that that's in that neighborhood
Speaker 2: that could get beat the fuck up tomorrow and that
Speaker 2: neighborhood would not lose one ounce of sleep.
Speaker 6: That's the same for me.
Speaker 2: There's certain people that see the community trying to make
Speaker 2: it seem like that everybody is a member. No, nigga,
Speaker 2: everybody is not a member.
Speaker 5: That's not, that's not, that's not I don't think that's not.
Speaker 7: That's not.
Speaker 6: Yes, it's just.
Speaker 3: It's like a certain thing where it's like you just
Speaker 3: grow grow up a certain way. It's not so much
Speaker 3: that everybody is a member.
Speaker 5: What I was saying is.
Speaker 3: Like, I'm not a I'm not a part of Divine nine,
Speaker 3: but I know a lot of information about it because
Speaker 3: I went to school.
Speaker 5: I was indoctrinated into the.
Speaker 6: Certain friends or divine nines.
Speaker 1: If somebody gives her a favorite that went there, they're
Speaker 1: gonna be a Divine nine. So culturally, that's how she raised.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, listen, when we're saying it's everybody a member,
Speaker 1: are you saying it's everybody in the infantry. No, No,
Speaker 1: everybody's not in the infantry part of whatever that community is.
Speaker 1: But everybody's from the community, and the community selected that title.
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Jobs Like, everybody in America is an American, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. We all don't join the military, we
Speaker 1: all ain't going to bust a gun, but you're an
Speaker 1: American and there is a sense of responsibility in being
Speaker 1: an American, and when people don't have that sense of responsibility,
Speaker 1: it is questioned standardly amongst Americans. Well, it's the same
Speaker 1: things in our communities, right, Like Joey is not an
Speaker 1: a trade gangster cryp, he is not a part of
Speaker 1: the infantry, but because he grew up in the territory
Speaker 1: that is known as the a trade gangs, the crypts,
Speaker 1: there is a level of responsibility that comes with it. Now,
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean he's an infantry man. No, he's not
Speaker 1: a jar head. Nope, he's not going to shoot. No,
Speaker 1: you don't have a problem with most sixties. But culturally
Speaker 1: the way he grew up, that is going to be
Speaker 1: he's going to have a disdain for certain communities because
Speaker 1: they killed his friends growing up.
Speaker 6: People going to have a disdain for him because of
Speaker 6: where he grew.
Speaker 1: Up at and for the rest of his life he'll
Speaker 1: be mending that bridge. And then again, even that concept
Speaker 1: is loose because most people from even the arch rivals
Speaker 1: or arch enemies of the sixties, they're friends. Joey has
Speaker 1: friends that grew up in Rolling sixties that are Rolling
Speaker 1: sixty game members. Some of the people from the infantry
Speaker 1: of the a Trade games and crypts have really close
Speaker 1: friends that are from the Rolling Sixties, that are infantry
Speaker 1: members of the Rolling Sixties. So again it's just loose job.
Speaker 1: So there's the perception of what cripping is, and then
Speaker 1: there's the real thing. The real thing is way more nuanced.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to argue with Colors. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to argue with Boys in the Hood. Those are movies
Speaker 1: that are indoctrinated in people around this country. But sure, Pete,
Speaker 1: you have been around me enough to know, and you
Speaker 1: see me in the room with bloods that there is
Speaker 1: a nuance relationship that goes way and far beyond than
Speaker 1: the generalness of what people saying that cripping in blood is.
Speaker 4: On thousand percent, it seems like this is an attempt
Speaker 4: to launder the assessment through semantical nuance.
Speaker 6: That but you could not.
Speaker 1: Again, nuance matters, It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter to the general mind.
Speaker 2: You're making it seem like the community voted for crips.
Speaker 2: They didn't. Crips bullied their way into dictating the thought price.
Speaker 6: That's not Communities.
Speaker 7: Over years and some don't bother everybody the.
Speaker 2: Women to hold on. At some point in the history
Speaker 2: of crips, there was ten niggas, yes, and those ten
Speaker 2: niggas were such a small percentage of that community that
Speaker 2: whatever they said did not dictate the lives of the
Speaker 2: rest of the community. And the rest of the community
Speaker 2: appreciated that shit. The niggas grew to a thousand and
Speaker 2: start telling niggas, you can't wear this in this neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Start writing shit on the walls. This is our neighborhood.
Speaker 2: And so the niggas that didn't want to deal with
Speaker 2: that ship move they dictated by bullying a thought process
Speaker 2: over years.
Speaker 4: Bro as a question real quick, Yeah, like from my
Speaker 4: understand there's Detroit has blessing cripts, now right they do know, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you're a little bit of a older guy. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean I don't mean like that, but like when you
Speaker 4: were growing up, if you okay, So so just like, yes,
Speaker 4: I'm sure that there was that happening in Detroit, given
Speaker 4: the way Detroit kind of you know, it has its
Speaker 4: own struggles. So so how would you define like that
Speaker 4: early stage development and kind of how the environment and
Speaker 4: everything was in Detroit versus Los Angeles where it's a
Speaker 4: little bit more maybe brand organized or whatever else, Like
Speaker 4: just in general speaking.
Speaker 6: How do you define your conflicts?
Speaker 2: It was all money, money based.
Speaker 6: What money phased was it was it people was.
Speaker 2: Less, it was less. It was less street based or
Speaker 2: territory based. In the beginning, it was more who got money,
Speaker 2: getting money? Who can I get with to get this
Speaker 2: many birds or whatever the case. Maybe it was never
Speaker 2: really an allegiance except for the young boys incorporated when
Speaker 2: I was in middle school. These guys had dominated the
Speaker 2: I mean from from from the east to the west,
Speaker 2: north to the south, and they sold heroin, and they
Speaker 2: sold a lot of it, and they had rules to
Speaker 2: the game. And it was a lot of them that
Speaker 2: is that followed those rules, and that was our gang culture.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Really what I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you The problem with that thought job and I don't
Speaker 1: want to cut you off because Detroit shit is fire,
Speaker 1: But that's just disingenuous. I had conflicts amongst communities all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 6: Now, just like real quick.
Speaker 4: Like say after that, I'm sure there's like a bit
Speaker 4: of a decentralized power vacuum of sorts because I'm guessing
Speaker 4: that they got feded out, so that kind of broke up.
Speaker 4: So in that period of time when the chips are falling, Yeah,
Speaker 4: so how would that have?
Speaker 2: It just never took hold like gangs until recently, like
Speaker 2: you would.
Speaker 6: Have What do you mean like gangs until recently?
Speaker 5: What do you think?
Speaker 2: Because people I know before we do that.
Speaker 6: But what makes the click different than the gang.
Speaker 2: Just the numbers, the numbers and the discipline. What's like this?
Speaker 2: What do you think I've never been to I've never
Speaker 2: been to La, so I don't know the gang culture
Speaker 2: from what you understand what I've seen like and I
Speaker 2: don't want to. I don't want people to think that
Speaker 2: I think the gangs are the worst thing.
Speaker 6: Ever, it's not wrong to think that gangs are the
Speaker 6: worst thing.
Speaker 2: That's there's there's some good things about gangs.
Speaker 6: We don't have to say that, say that. We've got
Speaker 6: to say.
Speaker 2: That, But I don't want people But what I noticed
Speaker 2: was the discipline and how there was a clear structure
Speaker 2: in each neighborhood, and the neighborhoods were a lot bigger
Speaker 2: than our neighborhoods. There was a clear struct sure who
Speaker 2: was leading you couldn't do certain things, like from a
Speaker 2: safety standpoint. It had its benefits as long as you
Speaker 2: about it by their rules, and their rules were actually
Speaker 2: pretty necessary, so there was a benefit to that, and
Speaker 2: Detroit was kind of lacking that outside of the young boys.
Speaker 2: When it starts splintering, it was just a bunch of niggas, like,
Speaker 2: it'll be fifteen niggas here we live on school Craft,
Speaker 2: It'll be twenty niggas here, we live on six miles
Speaker 2: or you know, it wasn't a thousand niggas.
Speaker 6: It's not a thousand niggas.
Speaker 9: It's way more than a thousand crips. But not saying
Speaker 9: every set has a thousand niggas.
Speaker 6: No, I'm saying, but I'm saying, let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. Though the sixties and the
Speaker 2: h trade crips have some rules that are in common.
Speaker 9: Correct, No, none of their rules are similar.
Speaker 2: There are no rules, so there's no rule.
Speaker 1: No, Like I'm being honest with you, job like every
Speaker 1: last person creates the standard of expectation.
Speaker 6: They're not rules. There's nothing specifically.
Speaker 1: Okay, the rule that's the rule is a criminal rule, right,
Speaker 1: anybody that breaks a crime, you can't tell. And then
Speaker 1: there's things that will create social or cultural currency within
Speaker 1: the rankings, but there is nothing specifically that will get
Speaker 1: you booted out of it except regular like messing with
Speaker 1: somebody grandma would get you kicked out to set. Like
Speaker 1: even okay, it's no rule that you got to help
Speaker 1: your homie if you getting jumped, right, if he getting jumped.
Speaker 1: There's no rules say you got to help your friend.
Speaker 1: You know what happened, You lose cultural cachet. Certain people
Speaker 1: could jump on you, certain people could stop messing with you.
Speaker 1: You lose cultural cachet. No different than it would be
Speaker 1: in Detroit.
Speaker 4: I think maybe one of the differences between Detroit and
Speaker 4: is the intergenerationality of it. Yeah, where maybe that lends
Speaker 4: itself and I think on the positive side, and you
Speaker 4: do see this in a lot of cases more maybe
Speaker 4: so with some of the larger like Mexican gangs or whatever.
Speaker 4: Like when you know, when m S gets to an
Speaker 4: area there is it does regulate down conflict, you know, yeah,
Speaker 4: to a degree. And at the same time, but also
Speaker 4: the intergenerationality I was going to say, like might compromise
Speaker 4: the degree to which it's voluntary ish, Yeah, I mean, listen,
Speaker 4: gangs didn't create poverty in the community, right, and and
Speaker 4: even like let's go back to the to a point
Speaker 4: she was making jobs about crypts, like right, yeah, there's
Speaker 4: so many crypts and you feel like they start pushing
Speaker 4: their will on the community.
Speaker 1: That's not true. Their families. Remember everybody's family is these
Speaker 1: are families. These are kids, So they're not that disconnected
Speaker 1: from their kids. They just start pushing they like they
Speaker 1: didn't push they will on the community. Like nobody like
Speaker 1: like you can't break into certain houses in my neighborhood,
Speaker 1: Like if people lived in that community, like older black people,
Speaker 1: there are certain places you will not mess with in
Speaker 1: that community because.
Speaker 6: That could get you beat up.
Speaker 1: It's not a rule, but that is somebody that one
Speaker 1: of the homies love a lot of them, so certain
Speaker 1: people you can't.
Speaker 3: There some type of morality in in there, like some
Speaker 3: type of inte.
Speaker 6: Huge morality, Yeah, huge moity.
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't see because like a lot
Speaker 3: of people's idea of gangs came from what they see
Speaker 3: on TV. So it's like, you know, this is what
Speaker 3: I think, but my stances is like at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, these people are still human. Like they
Speaker 3: don't go around walking around like, oh I'm a crip,
Speaker 3: I'm wearing blue, I got a gun, I would shoot you,
Speaker 3: I will rob you.
Speaker 5: Like that's not.
Speaker 1: Much different than that. So cripping is more of an
Speaker 1: adjective than a verb. Like, honestly, when people say gang banging,
Speaker 1: gang banging is not hitting somebody up right, when you
Speaker 1: know where you're from, that's not gag banging. That's called
Speaker 1: set tripping, right, So it's like gang banging is like
Speaker 1: everything you do. It's how you carry yourself. It's how
Speaker 1: you behave as a man, right, it's everything about your existence.
Speaker 1: It requires nothing like if you start snatching old lady
Speaker 1: pursus like one hundred and seventeenth Street, niggas is gonna
Speaker 1: beat you up because that's probably somebody on to your grandmother.
Speaker 6: It is not cool. Now, if it's a stranger, certain
Speaker 6: homies may not.
Speaker 1: They'll turn the blad eye because again these are poor minds, glasses, locans.
Speaker 1: Certain other homies would be pressurable. Ay, homie, don't get
Speaker 1: that lady back or shit. So again, the type of
Speaker 1: man you are determines the type of crip you're going
Speaker 1: to be. It's not like cripping influences you to do
Speaker 1: anything but stand up and be a man. And again,
Speaker 1: I don't want to push it. I'm telling you the truth, Josh.
Speaker 1: It's saying the law is not the ultimate judge of
Speaker 1: what's right and wrong. That's the problem, right, because we
Speaker 1: do live in a society and we all agree that
Speaker 1: these are the law. But again, I find specifically my
Speaker 1: sanctity and the thought of it by knowing that this
Speaker 1: country has never set up laws to be fair to.
Speaker 6: People that look like me and comfort where I come from.
Speaker 1: But there is no rule that says you have to
Speaker 1: behave in immorlly none. If you rape girls, you will
Speaker 1: get beat up you. If you rape somebody, little sister,
Speaker 1: people will kill you. They will murder you. If you
Speaker 1: start killing homies unjustly, they will sanction and murder you.
Speaker 1: You have to behave to a moral standard. That's the expectation.
Speaker 2: It's not a rule.
Speaker 1: There's nothing that says, hey, you know what, if you
Speaker 1: do this, this is the this is the thing. If
Speaker 1: you snitch on somebody, you may not get killed, you
Speaker 1: may get beat up every time people see you, and
Speaker 1: you just stop coming around because you don't want to
Speaker 1: get beat up. So I'm telling you the truth. Jobs,
Speaker 1: there's the reality, and then there's a exception. Now I'm
Speaker 1: not I agree with you, right. Obviously, if I was
Speaker 1: to have a child, I would not want to raise
Speaker 1: my child in the same poverty I grew up in.
Speaker 1: It's not so much the gangs, it's just a poverty, right,
Speaker 1: the mindset of poverty. I wouldn't even want to raise
Speaker 1: my child to be an outlaw like his father, because
Speaker 1: I understand the risk in my existence. But again, how
Speaker 1: can a black man in this country have anything to
Speaker 1: say crazy about an outlaw in this country is beyond me.
Speaker 1: Like you know the history of how people treat right now,
Speaker 1: we're just looking at jay Z. I told everybody I said,
Speaker 1: if you didn't, I told people, I said, look, if
Speaker 1: you don't stand up for Diddy, there's no reason me
Speaker 1: and Pete said it. Pize's white man from you know,
Speaker 1: family for Midaly. If you are allowing people to mistreat Diddy,
Speaker 1: charge one person with a Racketeering Organization Act a RICO.
Speaker 1: They're going to keep mistreating people. They know that they
Speaker 1: can warp especially federal law can be warped into some
Speaker 1: crazy things. It's not like Red in the state law,
Speaker 1: where it's pretty much simple. They got to prove it.
Speaker 6: Apiracies, it's a lot of.
Speaker 4: The investigative crime. In federal they investigate an organization, the
Speaker 4: investigate individuals.
Speaker 1: And federally you don't have to prove a crime the
Speaker 1: thought of a crime to get you put in prison.
Speaker 6: So again, so again. Jobs is like, I'm not advocating
Speaker 6: for a game.
Speaker 4: What's the question that we're that We're like, why do stay?
Speaker 6: Ultimately, gang members are stupid.
Speaker 4: I don't think we've asked that, we've we've addressed that
Speaker 4: question at all.
Speaker 2: Because joining a gang is stupid.
Speaker 7: They kill people, they hurt people, they ribe people, they
Speaker 7: sell drug If.
Speaker 2: Gang members don't want their own children to be gang members,
Speaker 2: how can that.
Speaker 6: Ever to be a gang.
Speaker 4: I think it's illogical. I wouldn't say it's stupid. I
Speaker 4: would say it might be short sided, it might be undisciplined,
Speaker 4: it might be a number of things that there's some
Speaker 4: idiots in there too. You can't have that many people
Speaker 4: do not have morons. It's too many people.
Speaker 6: You can a couple of people together and not have
Speaker 6: some morons.
Speaker 2: I agree with you, And why is my guy like
Speaker 2: and I respect him to the fluwish. But the act
Speaker 2: at some point you were younger and you decided this
Speaker 2: is what I want to do. You knew the risk,
Speaker 2: you knew the benefits, and you made a decision.
Speaker 6: You know what That that that problem is you don't
Speaker 6: always know the risk though, when it's a kind of
Speaker 6: how you've said it.
Speaker 1: That's not genuinely true for me, but that's kind of
Speaker 1: how you've said it. Don't know what happened for me
Speaker 1: was well, no, maybe it did come across that way,
Speaker 1: and it could be true.
Speaker 6: Let me say it. So, it's like I found drug.
Speaker 1: Dealing first in the streets, okay, and the community that
Speaker 1: I grew up in wanted via.
Speaker 4: Looking out right huh, via being a paid lookout.
Speaker 1: No, No, that's how it starts selling PCP. The first
Speaker 1: I started selling who was studying in high So I
Speaker 1: started selling crack in high school. So that's how I
Speaker 1: first got in the game. Sophomore year I started selling crack.
Speaker 1: I needed money. My mom went to prison, my mom
Speaker 1: went to the fist. My dad didn't have no bunch
Speaker 1: of money. I mean five dollars one dollar. Bad decision,
Speaker 1: very might I agree? Job selling drugs is a bad decision.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that about game banging. I don't regret
Speaker 1: this cripping, but I regret selling drugs.
Speaker 6: I no, no, because I got it. Let me.
Speaker 1: Let me give you everything PiZZ so you know, because
Speaker 1: I know what you talk about, you talking about my
Speaker 1: ap chemistry class. I didn't know that matter until three
Speaker 1: four years out there. Remember this is remember this is
Speaker 1: sophomore year.
Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't know. I thought he was like even
Speaker 4: like younger than that. And it was just like, hey,
Speaker 4: if anyone comes by a whistle or something like a
Speaker 4: hundred bucks a day, I know that.
Speaker 1: That's how I got into the sharm trade. So I
Speaker 1: started off selling crack as a sophomore in high school.
Speaker 1: Like just it's one hundred dollars, I go, do my homework,
Speaker 1: sell that crack.
Speaker 5: I go.
Speaker 1: I go to school the next day sixty to one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty dollars. The end of the week, I
Speaker 1: probably got about four hundred dollars. I used to buy
Speaker 1: everybody a line pizza, just player right. So that's how
Speaker 1: I first got in the street life.
Speaker 7: That's why I always like paying for everybody food, man
Speaker 7: to the tea.
Speaker 6: That's just the deep boy.
Speaker 1: In me right, So I know that's just how I
Speaker 1: get down so again, Pete, So as I started monetizing
Speaker 1: the community, that became the thing. It's like every first off,
Speaker 1: everybody start treating you like you from the game or
Speaker 1: you from you go to the pink store, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get into a fight if they tripping, if the young
Speaker 1: dudes are tripping with the hummies, because you over there,
Speaker 1: you from over there. If you go to the shopping center,
Speaker 1: you know, the mona parks think you from seven. Everybody
Speaker 1: knows you're from over because you're from over there? Are
Speaker 1: you from one hundred and seventy ten?
Speaker 4: And I'm sure and I'll kind of ask this on
Speaker 4: behalf of jobs, but you had to source locally, so
Speaker 4: to speak. You couldn't bring it outside products.
Speaker 1: No, no, you definitely can't bring no work in the community.
Speaker 1: I mean that's why I respect Trump doing what he's
Speaker 1: trying to do. Like, brother, you cannot be bringing that
Speaker 1: word from China over here taking advantage of the community
Speaker 1: paying minimum taxes. Yeah, we're gonna have to add some
Speaker 1: tariff on that. And and you know the homies didn't
Speaker 1: have a tear iff program. It was like, no, you
Speaker 1: get your dope from us. We keep all this money.
Speaker 1: Black people could take a lot from crippet. You keep
Speaker 1: all that money in the community. Yeah, you if you're
Speaker 1: gonna if you're gonna get you a half hounce. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you buy from us. That keeps the money revolving in
Speaker 1: the community. Right, simple as that. So it started like
Speaker 1: that for me jobs, Right, that's great. It's krudo jobs, right.
Speaker 1: The brick come in and nines come to.
Speaker 2: That and spend it outside the community. You let the
Speaker 2: Mexicans pick up your six, fix up your car. You
Speaker 2: buy fancy clothes from the Italians and the Europeans, and
Speaker 2: you got black food from restaurants in your community.
Speaker 7: That's why I said it's a lot we can learn from.
Speaker 2: Job, because who's hold on job. That's not true.
Speaker 1: We didn't go to fancy restaurant's job and we didn't
Speaker 1: buy those type of clothes.
Speaker 6: Remember I came up in there with Carl kna.
Speaker 4: If you clowns spent the money locally, I could still
Speaker 4: go to Jordan's cafe when I touched down, but I
Speaker 4: can't because you.
Speaker 6: That's not what happened.
Speaker 1: They didn't go out of business because of economics, demographics,
Speaker 1: job too, And I was gonna use that on jobs too.
Speaker 6: Job when I grew up, all my homiees.
Speaker 1: I have about three or four homies that had millions
Speaker 1: of dollars selling drugs.
Speaker 6: All that money.
Speaker 1: We went to the black establishments. We went to Jordan's,
Speaker 1: we went to Golden Birds, we went to black places.
Speaker 1: We did not dress and fancy eu. That's Detroit.
Speaker 6: We didn't dress and fish.
Speaker 3: I wasn't alive at this time, but didn't somebody have
Speaker 3: in our family own the store or something like that.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying we only patronized black businesses. We will
Speaker 1: go every now and remember this is back jobs.
Speaker 6: We didn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a ton of Mexican people live in the community.
Speaker 1: So that's still patronized in the community, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not it is. That's a job. You can
Speaker 2: understand that.
Speaker 6: You from Detroit and y'all just don't have nobody else.
Speaker 2: I think it's too friendly.
Speaker 5: No, No, that's not how it is out here.
Speaker 3: Because even my mom, as a teacher, people say the
Speaker 3: same thing, and it's like, well, I'm patronizing who's in
Speaker 3: my community.
Speaker 2: Not no, you patronize who's in your blood line. First.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they're also in our community job.
Speaker 2: Not only that job, but that's a whole other college.
Speaker 1: Oh no, hold up jobs. It's not like you would think. So, okay,
Speaker 1: there's two types of LA's. There's the la that I
Speaker 1: grew up at my mom house. My mom was out
Speaker 1: of prison right in Compton for she for the fares
Speaker 1: take her house where the seven Oles will shoot you.
Speaker 6: But you do have mesking friends.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Francisco and all my mesking friends that
Speaker 1: I grew up with in Compton. But the seven Oles
Speaker 1: is like, we're gonna kill you. Like that's the in
Speaker 1: eighty nine to ninety right, so I'm ten years old.
Speaker 1: I saw them hit up something on the wall. Bkck
Speaker 1: nigga killer. It's first time I ever saw some shit
Speaker 1: like that. That was the Mexican gang in the community
Speaker 1: to com to Vidio seven O's and I knew black
Speaker 1: people from there. There was a guy named Poppy from there.
Speaker 1: It was crazy Chucky from a Cajus brother. So again
Speaker 1: this is a really weird concept. Shout out to my
Speaker 1: uncle g Ray who told me that the cass was
Speaker 1: wrong and they was taking advantage of them, and the
Speaker 1: Mexicans finally stood up for theirself. But obviously they used
Speaker 1: the implication of race to help them make their point.
Speaker 1: And that's here we are. But then there's the other
Speaker 1: la like one hundred and seventeenth Street.
Speaker 5: Our next.
Speaker 1: Exactly where like Grave Street, one one seven and one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventeen Street are the same gangs, right or
Speaker 1: like Grave Street and watch video Grape if you go
Speaker 1: look at a lot of older Gray streets, they have
Speaker 1: WVG because they were the same gang as the Mexicans
Speaker 1: to the point where their families and they're actually mixed
Speaker 1: into families Jos. So it's a little nuanced to it that. So, yes,
Speaker 1: we didn't buy Italian clothes.
Speaker 6: We didn't.
Speaker 1: We didn't buy European cut clothes. We didn't buy we
Speaker 1: didn't go to fancy restaurants.
Speaker 6: We stayed. The money stayed in our community.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 3: In this conversation, what I'm learning is that West Coast
Speaker 3: like idea of gang banging and in the East Coast
Speaker 3: Midwest is very different, which is why people kind of
Speaker 3: they try to merge it. But it's like a different
Speaker 3: way of doing things.
Speaker 2: Different try to make it seem like it's all.
Speaker 5: No, no, it's not. Nobody's saying that, but.
Speaker 4: The opposite.
Speaker 2: Glances yourself listening to Luther, this nigga makes it sound
Speaker 2: so beautiful that.
Speaker 3: But you even said yourself that a lot of the
Speaker 3: things in Detroit were about money and versus how it
Speaker 3: is set up over here. That's what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 3: it's just a different it's a different setup, and that's.
Speaker 1: Not how it's set up over here. What he's saying
Speaker 1: is not you. We don't fight because you just live
Speaker 1: over here. We fight because somebody got into an issue
Speaker 1: over something could be money. He was two different communities, group,
Speaker 1: two different I'll put it in the trade language because
Speaker 1: it's just the same. Two different groups of friends were
Speaker 1: at one location. Somewhere along the line. An issue happened,
Speaker 1: right well, somebody cut them in line. Somebody grabbed his girl,
Speaker 1: but somebody sold somebody some bad dope to take advantage
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 6: Something happened. Remember the seasons in their trades and start fighting.
Speaker 1: Because these guys are that would be west of Western
Speaker 1: and these guys are.
Speaker 2: Got shot and y'all been fighting for four years.
Speaker 6: But let me explain it. Let me explain it.
Speaker 1: See it's fair to say one nigga got shot that
Speaker 1: just sounds so like that's normal.
Speaker 6: One nigga got killed.
Speaker 1: Mind you, this is somebody's little brother, somebody's son, right,
Speaker 1: So they got into a fight. Shout out to the
Speaker 1: citsus and they trades. The two guys.
Speaker 6: Fight, and they got into a fight, a fistfight to
Speaker 6: settle a dispute, right, that normal thing. Hey, you know what,
Speaker 6: we need to clash the titans. Let's squabble it out.
Speaker 6: Who wins. That's that's who. Right. They squabble.
Speaker 1: A guy who wasn't quite from either community but was
Speaker 1: actually representing one of the communities.
Speaker 6: The A trade community.
Speaker 1: Overreacts, pulls out a gun and kills the little guy
Speaker 1: that grew up in the sixties, this sixteen year old kid. Right,
Speaker 1: everybody get loose because you know, this is nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 6: People ain't really shooting like this. This is not normal.
Speaker 1: Let alone, somebody just die kill him. So later on
Speaker 1: that day they have a meeting at the park to
Speaker 1: get the person who perpetrated this gross act. Because this
Speaker 1: guy did not grow up culturally in that community, right,
Speaker 1: The A trades don't quite know how to get with
Speaker 1: the guy or where the guy is at.
Speaker 6: Tempers wore up.
Speaker 1: This is somebody's little brother, this is somebody's kid, this
Speaker 1: is somebody's best friend. Of fighting sules, helicopters, come to police. Come,
Speaker 1: everybody's leaving. Everybody leave, Nobody will go to jail. Everybody's
Speaker 1: drinking to deal with the loss of a sixteen year
Speaker 1: old kid. When they come over to try to notch it,
Speaker 1: conversations went bad. Somebody got shot. So if you think
Speaker 1: the solution again by that same standard, right, if it's
Speaker 1: just one person all in this gang, right, let's say
Speaker 1: sixties and the A trades at that point, the sixties,
Speaker 1: the rolling sixty crypts are let's say they're two hundred strong.
Speaker 1: Let's say they trades are two hundred strong. One guy
Speaker 1: got killed, and it created this whole thing where thousands
Speaker 1: where each game grew to thousands, and then they still
Speaker 1: got this conflict because people keep dying. Well, by that
Speaker 1: same standard, jobs, then why did America, where there's three
Speaker 1: hundred plus million people when the Tally band bombed the
Speaker 1: World Trade Center, why they just wipe off a couple
Speaker 1: people that weren't number but like one hundred and some
Speaker 1: people that died. That ain't that many people. It's stillions
Speaker 1: as minions. It's three hundred million people here. No, No,
Speaker 1: what is it about human nature that that demands justice
Speaker 1: or vengeance? Like that's the that's a fair thing. So
Speaker 1: it's no different than what happens in Detroit. You think
Speaker 1: these same things will happen to Detroit just because you
Speaker 1: don't have crip and blood at the end of your name.
Speaker 1: These are things common in poor neighborhoods and around the world.
Speaker 1: Right now, more people in the war between Ukraine and
Speaker 1: Russia has died.
Speaker 2: Than all.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what they fighting over land. Univers
Speaker 1: are trying to do your own thing.
Speaker 6: There's a problem we trip it.
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck about This is happening in Africa.
Speaker 2: They don't look like me.
Speaker 6: This is happening in Africa.
Speaker 11: Yah, niggas who is look brou I'm not going to
Speaker 11: allow people to justify doing dumb shit to our community
Speaker 11: because some other niggas do dumb shit to their community.
Speaker 6: It has nothing to do with community. Job that happens
Speaker 6: in Detroit.
Speaker 2: That doesn't make it right.
Speaker 6: Why do people keep doing it?
Speaker 2: And in Detroit, I don't know any niggas who had
Speaker 2: beef When I was sixteen that whose grandkids are still
Speaker 2: beefing with each other over that beef. Of course you do.
Speaker 2: Niggas passed on a curse. It's not passing it on.
Speaker 1: People keep hurting people because this is somebody's family. How
Speaker 1: is that not passing it on because you keep what
Speaker 1: are your jobs?
Speaker 6: Okay? Have you ever been in a situation hold up,
Speaker 6: because this is a great point.
Speaker 1: He makes a great point. Have you ever been in
Speaker 1: a situation where your crew of guys right?
Speaker 6: Because well, not that. Oh well, you're close enough. You
Speaker 6: and the mid eight been no.
Speaker 2: Be shot at you from thekids to goas grandy.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that because you're from the mid
Speaker 1: eighties and it was crazy to trade in the mid eighties.
Speaker 6: It was people was getting shot and killed.
Speaker 1: Yes, So you're saying none of your friends got shot
Speaker 1: and killed.
Speaker 6: That happened.
Speaker 2: M hm.
Speaker 1: So you're saying, whenever your friends got shot and killed,
Speaker 1: y'all had a meeting to amicably resolve the situation.
Speaker 2: Nona, We just didn't kill these niggas grandkids. No, I say,
Speaker 2: I'm saying, did you stop niggas involved? It didn't involve them?
Speaker 2: Niggas lineage.
Speaker 6: Hold on I'm asking you a question. No, there was
Speaker 6: no meeting, so didn't know.
Speaker 1: You guys went back and your friends went back and
Speaker 1: made it even.
Speaker 2: It depended on the city. Some niggas got themselves shot
Speaker 2: and it stopped right there.
Speaker 6: That never shot.
Speaker 9: Because you deserve to get shot in the streets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you sell the nigga.
Speaker 9: Some bad work and you get shot.
Speaker 2: We're not wrong.
Speaker 6: You give him to us and we deal with our problem.
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you. You asked me about Detroit.
Speaker 1: So so, so you're saying Detroit doesn't have any feud.
Speaker 1: So so you're saying the same organizations don't just change
Speaker 1: names and feuds continue.
Speaker 2: To my knowledge, and I could be wrong because I
Speaker 2: don't know every hood in Detroit.
Speaker 6: You know you're wrong. Just so you know you're wrong.
Speaker 2: There are not niggas grandkids still beefing over ship their
Speaker 2: grandfathers did nobody.
Speaker 6: But this is what I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: The cities and they trades are not beefing because of
Speaker 1: what happened to Tyrone, to Rick's brother. They're not beefing
Speaker 1: of what happened to Rick. They don't even know Rick.
Speaker 1: They don't even know Tyrone. They don't know the man.
Speaker 6: That passed away. That's that's generation of guys.
Speaker 1: They start clashing over what happened to their friend and
Speaker 1: their friends brother.
Speaker 4: Positive feedback loop.
Speaker 1: Just just like just like American Russian, we don't I
Speaker 1: wouldn't know why nobody mad at Russia. Nothing that's happened
Speaker 1: in my life as an American man that I should
Speaker 1: be mad at Russia. All I know is I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to not trust Russia.
Speaker 7: That's what I'm I just heard.
Speaker 1: When they don't fuck with Americans song and if you
Speaker 1: if you get out of line, where do you hear
Speaker 1: that from Americans?
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is as a crypt, a young crypt,
Speaker 2: somebody has to teach you who the ops are.
Speaker 1: Nobody teaching? You know what teacher I brought. When you
Speaker 1: go someone you back from Seventh Street and they shoot.
Speaker 2: At you, so nobody teach. Nobody told you up front,
Speaker 2: Oh we beefing with these niggas.
Speaker 8: You know, you just you just go outside people you
Speaker 8: live around, you go to school and they be like them.
Speaker 3: Niggas come on just guns and rags and say I'm
Speaker 3: a crip, I'm a blood.
Speaker 9: I'm saying, you're fully aware, which neighborhoods.
Speaker 2: You're you're at the time that you joined the organization,
Speaker 2: you are fully aware which neighborhoods you should avoid.
Speaker 9: Because we got a problem.
Speaker 6: Okay, so that okay, So okay, I got the problem.
Speaker 6: I got the issue.
Speaker 1: So in mega gangs like on the West Side, like
Speaker 1: the Seasons and they trades, that's standard.
Speaker 6: But in most gangs that's not normal.
Speaker 1: Like my okay, perfect example, my community one hundred and
Speaker 1: seventeen street Watch. Growing up, my generation had an issue
Speaker 1: with the Carver parks, right, and then so you shoot
Speaker 1: it out, you fight it out, called your conflict dot
Speaker 1: watchboy mom son named moon Son plus nephew. That generation
Speaker 1: are tight with the car parks. The generation undermines now
Speaker 1: they have an issue with them on the parks. My
Speaker 1: generation was tight with them on the parks. My older
Speaker 1: homies had an issue with the Promenoakes. My generation we
Speaker 1: like the Pomenoakes. The conflicts don't go the way you
Speaker 1: think they go. They usually are resolved, Like my generation,
Speaker 1: like my homies and the pj's right, the Imperial Course Cripts,
Speaker 1: they had a problem. Guess what that problem got resolved?
Speaker 1: A couple shootings, couple fights, maybe some people got shot,
Speaker 1: maybe some people died, but they resolve them. You're talking
Speaker 1: about the sixes and they trades. That's not a standard thing.
Speaker 1: That's why that thing is so all talked about, right,
Speaker 1: It's because it's such an ongoing thing. But that's also
Speaker 1: because there's I mean that might be thousands of each
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 6: Like these gangs are big as cities.
Speaker 7: Yeah, everybody don't even know each other.
Speaker 4: They're so geographically large. There's not unavoidable interaction constant. You
Speaker 4: can be pretty insular from one to the other. And
Speaker 4: I think that's a contribute factor.
Speaker 1: And every year somebody who sinses they trade, don't die
Speaker 1: in the war jobs. Sometimes it's not nothing, and then
Speaker 1: sometimes it heats up.
Speaker 5: It's like with.
Speaker 3: Everything that we're saying, why can't you talk about politics
Speaker 3: or why can't Kendrick have an album called good Kid
Speaker 3: Mass City and people think that he's a you know,
Speaker 3: like the.
Speaker 1: Nuanced because the nuance has never expressed because people don't
Speaker 1: have time for the nuance, which is why.
Speaker 8: Y'all nuanced don't matter on the mainstream level. Like they
Speaker 8: just get they taking his face value, how they created
Speaker 8: the movies, and that's what cryption. Bloods is to the
Speaker 8: mainstream world period. You dying over colors. It's stupid. Go
Speaker 8: get a job, y'all dumbest broke forward, and that's just
Speaker 8: how it's gonna get looked at on the main scale.
Speaker 2: I mean, but most of our our interaction outside you know, us,
Speaker 2: non West Coasters or non gang communities. Our interaction isn't Hollywood.
Speaker 2: It's y'all niggas. Job you have learned about taking from MCA.
Speaker 7: That's the same thing.
Speaker 1: That's still a level of entertainment where it's all heightened
Speaker 1: and conditions society.
Speaker 2: That's y'all niggas deciding to.
Speaker 1: Give Oh no, no, no, no, no, no no, we
Speaker 1: give you the highlights like ESPN.
Speaker 2: Oh, whatever the case is, y'all telling it.
Speaker 6: We both.
Speaker 1: But you can't get mad at ESPN because they show
Speaker 1: slam dunks and then you go watch the game and
Speaker 1: it might be only four of them in forty eight.
Speaker 7: Minutes and they lost whoever dunts.
Speaker 2: I'm just you can't be mad at us for believing,
Speaker 2: y'all niggas. I'm not upset.
Speaker 1: I told you no, I totally understand y'all ignorance.
Speaker 6: I get it. I'm not upset at it at all.
Speaker 6: I'm like, y'all just don't know.
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm telling you, like, that's not common,
Speaker 1: Like it's not common for beasts to go generationally. That's
Speaker 1: not most gangs in Los Angeles.
Speaker 6: That's these really huge, matter of fact yangs that that's
Speaker 6: happening with more gangs at LA. That's not standard.
Speaker 1: I mean, and even in those big gangs jobs, it's
Speaker 1: not a concernt. Remember if the seasions and they trades
Speaker 1: were consistently warring, they are across the street from each other,
Speaker 1: it would be dead bodies every day. Man, You go
Speaker 1: months and months and months and months and months, sometimes
Speaker 1: a year, and nobody dies in that conflict. But then
Speaker 1: guess what, in twenty twenty six, it might get heat
Speaker 1: up and then all the memories of the past come
Speaker 1: up and four people might die because in that war.
Speaker 1: Twenty people might get shot in that war. But remember
Speaker 1: there's so many communities around, right, the families is just
Speaker 1: as bad at it with them, right, And then there's
Speaker 1: different things that happen along the line of just existing
Speaker 1: in this poor dimension of LA where you just have conflict.
Speaker 1: Like you hear the stories between the cixies and hoovers.
Speaker 1: They're not even close to each other. They can't kill
Speaker 1: each other or if they would have to make a
Speaker 1: trip and risk going to prison. All the time, they
Speaker 1: not gone that far. But guess what they they may
Speaker 1: bump into each other at the slassus swap meat and
Speaker 1: it may go too far. So again, it's no different
Speaker 1: than Detroit. It's just marketing. And what's not even marketing,
Speaker 1: but it's branded. But the marketing you don't know the
Speaker 1: story of it. You just know the brand of it.
Speaker 1: They just say red versus blue. Into some degree, That's
Speaker 1: how it was in nineteen seventy three for however long
Speaker 1: that lasted. But within the first six years after that
Speaker 1: it has been community against community, just like in Detroit. Remember,
Speaker 1: crips were just a rogue thing. They weren't a community.
Speaker 1: They were just guys from all over the city, young
Speaker 1: guys who got rejected from another community. Which really, probably
Speaker 1: this wouldn't be a problem if those older guys would
Speaker 1: have took those younger guys under their wing. Right, shout
Speaker 1: out to Craig Munson and all of the guys from
Speaker 1: the Avenues who inspired the crypt movement, you know as
Speaker 1: well as the Panthers, but that those guys wanted to
Speaker 1: be you know, baby avenues where they would have had
Speaker 1: guidance from an elder, a mature adult, but because he
Speaker 1: didn't want to. In no disrespect to Craig, I'm not
Speaker 1: this and you og if you hear this, I'm saying
Speaker 1: if he would have took on the responsibility of a
Speaker 1: fifteen sixty year old Raymond, Raymond Washington.
Speaker 6: Or Tookie, guess what.
Speaker 1: You have guidance, But when you let your damn kids
Speaker 1: run wild jobs, you get kids ship.
Speaker 2: Behavior. I gotta go, man, my man, John, this is
Speaker 2: peak old man.
Speaker 6: Hey, go ahead, Josh, thank you for being here. Make it.
Speaker 6: Make sure y'all take him out. Were gonna keep this
Speaker 6: going a little bit.
Speaker 9: Longer, Jope asked, question, y'all always in privage.
Speaker 6: Jobs? To make sure your stuff is uploaded? Hold on jobs,
Speaker 6: my man, bro, he's so brilliant, so brilliant.
Speaker 5: Okay, job, Well you're back to my original topic.
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know if it's because we just
Speaker 3: grew up how we grew up. You know, how the
Speaker 3: woman all your sisters are versus your brother, How you
Speaker 3: and your brothers grew up so I don't know if
Speaker 3: it's that that is what it is. But like I said,
Speaker 3: like Uncle Robert is an obstrometrist, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like you didn't grow up saying I want to be
Speaker 3: a cripple when I get older. I'm pretty sure you
Speaker 3: had different goals and ideas of what you wanted to do.
Speaker 6: Your mom, your mom my sister. I was supposed to
Speaker 6: be a pharmacist.
Speaker 5: Right I was.
Speaker 1: I had the grades, I had ap courses. Shit, Your mother,
Speaker 1: your auntie, rest her soul. They used to be furious
Speaker 1: that I decided to start selling dope and messing up,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So.
Speaker 6: You don't decide to be me. And Pluck was.
Speaker 1: Talking about this the other day, shout out to plug
Speaker 1: Plug is my ogi homie that really you know, make
Speaker 1: sure I was gonna be alright, as well as a
Speaker 1: couple other other.
Speaker 6: Homies, but older hommies.
Speaker 1: But we were talking and I was like, I say, if
Speaker 1: you really think about it, worn't cripping something that you become.
Speaker 6: It's just it's just you. You gotta be it.
Speaker 1: It's not something you really if you think about it,
Speaker 1: you really shouldn't be able to get put on even
Speaker 1: to put on. It's more about a test of your
Speaker 1: willingness to stand up when the pressure is on you.
Speaker 2: It's not truly it's.
Speaker 1: Being misused now because again it is a lot of younger.
Speaker 8: People make responsibility and you know, but we're differently a
Speaker 8: time now where people don't sure where they're stranger responsibility
Speaker 8: enough strangers.
Speaker 1: They people don't know each other, like my friends, even
Speaker 1: when they even even when Ron Ron and and and
Speaker 1: and and uh, even when little j Moto res Moto
Speaker 1: soul free, little Jay and ron Ron right when they
Speaker 1: put me on, it was done with love. It wasn't
Speaker 1: just like I want to hurt this person put in
Speaker 1: the hospital. It was just to get you to stand
Speaker 1: up and fight. So that's really what it is, you know.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's supposed to be a test of your
Speaker 6: your your.
Speaker 5: Forty two sayn and sorority.
Speaker 2: Though in everything it.
Speaker 10: Was crazy and you don't see, I don't know. You
Speaker 10: don't hear a lot about this shit either, like you're
Speaker 10: about to you hear about it unless you go look
Speaker 10: for it.
Speaker 4: Though, like it's not like no, it's covered a lot
Speaker 4: like how you and all that, like you know, but
Speaker 4: like media news covers it, and you gotta think about it,
Speaker 4: like it's been so heavily civilly litigated over the last
Speaker 4: twenty years that like you got to think back twenty
Speaker 4: twenty five, thirty years ago, because it's largely gone. Like now,
Speaker 4: it's like something happens and it's it'll make seeing it. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: because it's largely because of the rarity.
Speaker 8: Okay, Yeah, that's what I'm saying, because I'm I'm a
Speaker 8: little bit aware and I'll be hearing.
Speaker 7: Ship, but I'd be like, damn, I only be saying
Speaker 7: I wanted to research it and find out how crazy
Speaker 7: it is. They don't get enough flat with the ship
Speaker 7: they be doing. They don't get the flat that.
Speaker 3: I think if you go into a fraternity, if you
Speaker 3: have to be a firefighter, a police officer, a shif,
Speaker 3: it's all a process for all of those days or
Speaker 3: clicks or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1: And rightfully so, and rightfully so, a society should frown
Speaker 1: on an outlaw organization because this.
Speaker 5: Is outlaw organization.
Speaker 1: Some of them, some of them are like the Vikings
Speaker 1: and different things that was in those things, and it
Speaker 1: really had the same type of you know, it was
Speaker 1: they not not the not the Vikings, not the police. Gangs,
Speaker 1: but the regular police they're there with. They operate within
Speaker 1: society standards. Gangs operate outside of society standards, society or rules.
Speaker 1: So I get the outrage of society. But again to
Speaker 1: answer your question, I think it's because they're immature. The
Speaker 1: thought is immature, the thought is ignorant. They don't have
Speaker 1: enough information. Even Pete to me, somebody who's been around
Speaker 1: gang members for years. He knows me and Malcolm right,
Speaker 1: and he still got his perception of it. He's been
Speaker 1: around way more gang members, and he know other gang
Speaker 1: members from all over Arizona. He knows from street guys
Speaker 1: in the Bay, and he knows some of us are
Speaker 1: smart and some of us are just crazy. You know,
Speaker 1: he not crazy, but the natural perception is well, one
Speaker 1: thing is because there's no standard, right, like there is
Speaker 1: no aptitude test to get to be from the seven.
Speaker 1: I almost wanted to try to implement it. I think
Speaker 1: you should really have to be a lot of shit
Speaker 1: to be it, because you really become the representation of
Speaker 1: a lot of people. And you know, I mean, you
Speaker 1: start to carry lies in your hand, you go do
Speaker 1: something stupid. It could cost me my life. Yes, that fast,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I definitely don't. I
Speaker 1: definitely don't think the gangs take it serious. The idea
Speaker 1: of it, like you know who we're going to allow
Speaker 1: to represent us. I do agree with that, but again
Speaker 1: it is immaturely and emotionally ran. I mean, there's not
Speaker 1: necessarily like Pluck. Shout out to Pluck. I always congratulated
Speaker 1: him on the type of man he was right because
Speaker 1: he never when it was his time for to be accountable,
Speaker 1: whether he had a kid, he raised his kid, you know,
Speaker 1: whether it was time to go to jail, he went
Speaker 1: and sat down. Even when they him to get him,
Speaker 1: they didn't even play fair to get him when it
Speaker 1: was time to be a problem. I always applaud him
Speaker 1: for the type of man he is, Like, it's not
Speaker 1: about no do I think he tough.
Speaker 6: I think he's a man.
Speaker 4: I think it's impossible to have good leadership in that
Speaker 4: format thing though, because yeah, leadership comes with age and experience,
Speaker 4: and three things happened. You get locked up, you pass away,
Speaker 4: or you move away. That's that's the majority.
Speaker 5: Well you.
Speaker 4: Actively on there.
Speaker 6: I'm not mad.
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that though, I'm not mad at
Speaker 1: that being a critique of it, because.
Speaker 4: I'm not even saying it's a critique. I'm just saying
Speaker 4: logically impossible to avoid.
Speaker 1: Well, Okay, so like remember, like Pluck is fifteen years
Speaker 1: older than me. Yeah, so even when I'm coming up
Speaker 1: and I'm like this little like we was talking about today,
Speaker 1: he watched me grow up, like since the little kid.
Speaker 1: It was never like, g come be from this. He
Speaker 1: didn't never say nothing like that till I started selling dope.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, you out here thugging, you need to
Speaker 1: be from the hood. It was never like a thought
Speaker 1: you need to get insurance.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you need to You need to game is. Let
Speaker 6: me teach you how to do this so you don't
Speaker 6: get your head.
Speaker 8: Because if you're doing that and you over here now
Speaker 8: you're becoming a live Yeah, you need to learn how
Speaker 8: to be responsible with the ship you're doing.
Speaker 2: Be a man.
Speaker 8: Being on the hood is a part of that, because nigga,
Speaker 8: if you ain't from the hood, we either gonna nigga,
Speaker 8: you ain't gonna be able.
Speaker 7: To be doing all this and you're gonna do it anyway,
Speaker 7: and that's gonna become a problem.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So there's there isn't.
Speaker 7: I might say crazy to some people.
Speaker 4: It's an insurance policy that multi layer.
Speaker 1: So and like to John's point, I don't want to
Speaker 1: say I don't want to talk positive about gangs. That's
Speaker 1: not what I'm I'm not here to do that. I
Speaker 1: the experience is not negative the way you would imagine. Now,
Speaker 1: it's not about is it positive. It's not like people
Speaker 1: will say it, go snatch this purse like no lie,
Speaker 1: Like there's this thing where people feel like, yes, there
Speaker 1: are some grown up men who misuse humans, but has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with gang banging.
Speaker 6: That just becomes the vessel. They would do that if
Speaker 6: they were in the military, they would do that, if
Speaker 6: they worked at Pizza Hut. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: It's it's just some.
Speaker 1: Irresponsible people that have access to it, like any other
Speaker 1: facet of the life. But honestly, the first time Pete
Speaker 1: like I was finna go shoot at somebody, I want
Speaker 1: to pluck to get a gun that nigga told me,
Speaker 1: and you better go buy you you better go steal
Speaker 1: your own gun like I stole my first one. Now,
Speaker 1: some people could take that emotionally. I didn't feel no
Speaker 1: kind of way, I was like, that's fucked up. But
Speaker 1: you know what I got from it, Nigga, I don't
Speaker 1: know what type of criminal you're gonna be, and I'm
Speaker 1: not trusting your criminals. So you need to go get
Speaker 1: your own ship to do your own ship. If I
Speaker 1: had you, if I recommended you to do some shit,
Speaker 1: I would provide it. But until then, how you even
Speaker 1: the more I think about how you out here doing
Speaker 1: this and you don't have a gun and you're making money.
Speaker 6: The lesson. But again, some people emotionally could take that
Speaker 6: out of wrong.
Speaker 8: I ain't even want to get me his gun, nigga. Like, nigga,
Speaker 8: I don't even know what you about to do something
Speaker 8: now all of a sudden, I did niggas bring you
Speaker 8: a gun back?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly, like bro?
Speaker 3: What So again, I want to add that it's not
Speaker 3: that I like think that gangs are good or whatever.
Speaker 5: I guess my idea of what I think a gang
Speaker 5: is is very different.
Speaker 3: Because I understand that, Yeah, you got the what people
Speaker 3: sensationalize what gangs are, but you can literally consider everything
Speaker 3: a gang and everybody.
Speaker 5: Has their moral standing ground on different side, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean?
Speaker 3: The gangs that people keep talking about where the people
Speaker 3: who like protected the neighborhood, so I can't like always
Speaker 3: lean to you guys are big, scary people who care
Speaker 3: on guns and wear colored flags like that's not.
Speaker 8: How yeah much a lot more cooler gang members and
Speaker 8: gang bangers than I didn't.
Speaker 7: Right, right, niggas funny.
Speaker 3: Gang members, athletes are extremely intellectual, extremely.
Speaker 8: Funny comedian comedians Like it's you know, irregular people. But
Speaker 8: they're just a part of this other sometimes so nigga
Speaker 8: is deal with it in a certain way.
Speaker 1: So again, it's simply put, it's a bunch of people
Speaker 1: that do not let the law stand in the way
Speaker 1: of how they exist. That's why society is supposed to
Speaker 1: frown on it. But again you got to give creators
Speaker 1: that probably everybody involved is not stupid or ignorant. Like
Speaker 1: it's not a choice because I didn't know. It's a
Speaker 1: choice because I chose. So even with joh said it's
Speaker 1: a bad choice, I do not feel like that.
Speaker 6: I do not want to know what type of man
Speaker 6: I would be without without cripping.
Speaker 8: Though, And it's like he can have that thought and
Speaker 8: it can It's okay, I understand why you feel that way.
Speaker 8: Me but as my as me as being one of these,
Speaker 8: let me explain to you that it's not always like that.
Speaker 8: And I'm speaking from experience, and I know other niggas
Speaker 8: with that can relate to my experience as well. Let
Speaker 8: me just let you know, bro, like it ain't all
Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying, But like you say, the
Speaker 8: highlight reel is is the rags the shooting niggase don
Speaker 8: saying if you're drinking that poison, nigga, But while he
Speaker 8: had Nigga be sipping the martini talking about you drinking
Speaker 8: poison like that.
Speaker 1: Should be so again, it's like I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: think of it as a bad diest. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a bad decision. I wouldn't trade the only thing
Speaker 1: I would trade in Peter selling dope. That's the only
Speaker 1: thing I wish I never sold, though that that's something
Speaker 1: I regret. I don't regret this cripping at all, Like
Speaker 1: I don't. It's great for me. It's it worked.
Speaker 6: I needed it.
Speaker 1: I needed to know how to exist in this world
Speaker 1: by myself, knowing that everybody is not gonna be fair,
Speaker 1: knowing everybody's not gonna obey the law, not just other
Speaker 1: gang members people in general, and.
Speaker 7: You know what like and what Boy was saying.
Speaker 8: If it was really that bad and they were just
Speaker 8: making rules and pushing niggas to do it, then I
Speaker 8: wouldn't have been able to avoid.
Speaker 7: Being cad and on and you're still do homie like, yeah, Like.
Speaker 12: I remember niggas that g niggas in the hood understood
Speaker 12: certain niggas that they just knew was gonna be them
Speaker 12: niggas and they understood like, nah, you need to be
Speaker 12: like bro, you yeah, like it was clear that I
Speaker 12: didn't want to be fully responsible for everything that.
Speaker 8: Come with being caught and on. I know it's a
Speaker 8: little these the homies, they they they yearning to be
Speaker 8: like they.
Speaker 7: Want to be touger.
Speaker 6: They became soldiers.
Speaker 7: Ain't that a lot to do with my mom and pop?
Speaker 11: I was?
Speaker 7: I was scared of my mama.
Speaker 3: I guess I just see it as y'all kind of
Speaker 3: protected the streets, not kind of, but protected the streets.
Speaker 3: And that's what I looked at like as a gang
Speaker 3: as like just like the streets.
Speaker 6: It depends on the man.
Speaker 1: Like again, gangs in power, whatever man you are, so
Speaker 1: if you are crappy nigga gangs are going to empower
Speaker 1: your crappiness, Like if you you are like me, Like
Speaker 1: I was always a moral person, So gangs just made
Speaker 1: my morals strong and then I can apply them on everybody,
Speaker 1: like my homies will tell you, like everybody want to
Speaker 1: be tough, But there was a time I would impose
Speaker 1: my will on everybody, you know what I mean, especially
Speaker 1: if they was doing something that was immorally sound. Now again,
Speaker 1: this is also coming from an immature mind that didn't
Speaker 1: understand selling drugs. Like again, that would be the thing
Speaker 1: I would trade in, like the way jobs feel about
Speaker 1: gang members or were peace, and I feel like that's
Speaker 1: what I feel about being a drug dealer.
Speaker 6: Gangs.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like nothing because everybody subscribes like this
Speaker 1: is something gang like. Drug dealing is different, right because
Speaker 1: drug dealing you don't quite know. I don't understand addiction
Speaker 1: because I'm not addicted to alcohol or or drugs what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, per se, So.
Speaker 6: I don't understand.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand addiction as a kid, So it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: everybody's making a choice, so I'm selling it to them.
Speaker 1: When I realized that people were you know what, I
Speaker 1: mean like addicted and they couldn't control themselves.
Speaker 6: That's when I had to change my life.
Speaker 1: Gangs Like if I met somebody like Joey and he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm not from may Track, I grew
Speaker 1: up over there. I wouldn't ask any extra questions if
Speaker 1: you whether you turning it down, whether you denying, you know,
Speaker 1: the point was carry out, whether you denying your affiliation
Speaker 1: or you really just not.
Speaker 8: And then you got some niggas you know, I don't care,
Speaker 8: I want a problem, and then you know you deal
Speaker 8: with that. How you deal with that as become a
Speaker 8: man issue.
Speaker 6: And that's the thing.
Speaker 1: It just magnifies whoever you are. That's all crippen does.
Speaker 1: It can't change you like you either in it or not. Yes,
Speaker 1: if your friend get killed, some people are gonna cry
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be the day that they've done with it.
Speaker 1: Some people it's gonna turn them up and they're gonna
Speaker 1: go ride for their friend. You're gonna figure out who
Speaker 1: you are and which is going to provide the most.
Speaker 1: So poverty creates the most traumatic experiences right that that
Speaker 1: we know about. Equally is that fair traumatic like poverty
Speaker 1: creates these traumatic situations and then gangs empower you to
Speaker 1: deal with it. So right, so before gangs, it was
Speaker 1: people that was dealing with it. I mean, there'd be
Speaker 1: one dude you be playing war, you know, slipping into
Speaker 1: the parkness. He finna go shoot this dude that you
Speaker 1: wronged his friend. Gangs kind of give you.
Speaker 6: The okay.
Speaker 1: So there's one issue I have with it. It's like
Speaker 1: being a police. It empowers people that probably don't deserve power.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Force is a lever and it's a lever of force.
Speaker 6: So so it's like, yes, it's not perfect.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I wouldn't advocate for people to be
Speaker 1: down because to me, you can't be down. Like even
Speaker 1: if right now, if I said I advocate for you
Speaker 1: to be from a gang, if you already grew up
Speaker 1: in that community, you from there anyway, But if.
Speaker 6: You don't live there, why the hell would you be
Speaker 6: from that community? Go over there and get jumped on.
Speaker 8: You even know these people not only do we have Hollywood,
Speaker 8: but now you've got a lot of people who are
Speaker 8: on just social media just misrepresenting and telling lies about
Speaker 8: how the shit go, just completely lying and really just
Speaker 8: and really like really come from over there or whatever.
Speaker 8: But just like they feeding you know, the people who
Speaker 8: look at it as yeah, you know, they feeding the
Speaker 8: main stream.
Speaker 6: Thirty six niggas.
Speaker 7: Only niggas that ever gave me a problem was a nigga.
Speaker 7: Ain't no white person ever being shipped to me like
Speaker 7: you know the words. Yeah, so it's like.
Speaker 8: You got them, dudes. That's like the king of the coach,
Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. So so it ain't no
Speaker 8: changing it.
Speaker 7: It ain't no you know, people gonna come to this
Speaker 7: and had a conversation and some people gonna just die
Speaker 7: on the.
Speaker 3: Like I see it as like okay and be controversial,
Speaker 3: but just sticking of of today's terms. It's like if
Speaker 3: you have a woman who has a past of being
Speaker 3: a whole or a prostitutor or whatever, people will more
Speaker 3: likely champion that and be like she can change, she
Speaker 3: can be more than just the whole she Kim Kardashian
Speaker 3: for instance, Like she's not just that, she's this is
Speaker 3: any other Like she can go to law school, she
Speaker 3: can They champion that, you know what I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't really think.
Speaker 5: That like most some people do.
Speaker 7: Yeah, people do, but that girl can't do.
Speaker 2: A lot of people, everybody equally.
Speaker 3: No, but they still be like, say what you said
Speaker 3: about her, but she's still a businesswoman, you know that's.
Speaker 7: Not but that's not that part.
Speaker 6: She got some money, yeah, but she's still a hope.
Speaker 5: Because it's like you got that side.
Speaker 3: But then it's like like our conversation with you or
Speaker 3: like a Kindrick or whoever else, you know, it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: you can't talk.
Speaker 5: About that because you're not You're a game and you're stupid,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: This whole you're freeing people right.
Speaker 5: With you.
Speaker 4: You can't do that in a different kind. They're gonna
Speaker 4: say the same thing. If a whole has a negative
Speaker 4: thing to say about somebody because they cheated on their
Speaker 4: husband or whatever the fuck that that's gonna be the
Speaker 4: first thing you can't say that, I believe it or not.
Speaker 3: There is going to be like a large group of
Speaker 3: people and be like, oh, well she changed, so oh
Speaker 3: that's just experience.
Speaker 6: You never in my life heard nobody say can't i'm.
Speaker 4: Her?
Speaker 7: And then they feal been in my DM defending her
Speaker 7: and all that. But people do I think she was
Speaker 7: a whole too though?
Speaker 8: Hose dude, Yeah, because it's just like the hip hop conversation,
Speaker 8: right when you start, when you start like holding up
Speaker 8: the mirror, some niggas start realizing like, well that means
Speaker 8: I'm not hip hop and they not trying to deal
Speaker 8: with that. So when you start holding that mirror up
Speaker 8: to them, they like, wait, so why that's being a
Speaker 8: whole because she already letting you know, like damn yeah.
Speaker 4: People don't want to be criticized. They're going to try
Speaker 4: to do that and.
Speaker 7: You're not even about to be able to be on.
Speaker 3: But it's I'm just saying, it's a lot of people. Well,
Speaker 3: I guess because there's a there's a large group of
Speaker 3: people who feel like, like Drea, she deleted her whole
Speaker 3: is you know what I mean? So a lot of
Speaker 3: people feel like.
Speaker 5: That's like yeah, like ye did.
Speaker 6: But I don't like people think that.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 1: I think what happens is I think, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: shout out to uh, what's your old lady or not?
Speaker 6: Kim?
Speaker 1: Yeah Amber, Like I think Amber is trying to find
Speaker 1: the space to where she can exist. But because people
Speaker 1: have this kind of it just come with the territory.
Speaker 1: You gotta wear it proudly.
Speaker 6: And I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I think really true gang members could add the most
Speaker 1: to social commentary, even when it comes to war, Like
Speaker 1: if you educated, like if I educated Pluck on wars
Speaker 1: and what was happening and what people really were fighting
Speaker 1: for the facts, he just like me, he could break
Speaker 1: it down into what's going on in the community.
Speaker 6: That's the same. Like there was a time in Compton
Speaker 6: that the access powers were created. So the access power.
Speaker 1: Remember people when the three countries came together and they
Speaker 1: named themself, they was all together.
Speaker 6: That happened in Compton.
Speaker 1: There was a time in Compton where it was like
Speaker 1: occasion town forms Front Palmer, Tana, Nutty, South Atlantic like
Speaker 1: they were like, So it's hilarious to me that people
Speaker 1: don't see.
Speaker 4: And that's probably not like neighborhoods and gangster crips like
Speaker 4: you know, a consolidation so to speaker alliances.
Speaker 7: With your famous line you always say, people are intellectually lazy.
Speaker 8: That takes too much thought to put together and start
Speaker 8: thinking about all that they comparisons and breaking it down.
Speaker 8: Niggas like nigga, we just clicking over with the home
Speaker 8: ship cracking over here, like they don't want to have type.
Speaker 8: It's too deep and everybody not. You gotta really want
Speaker 8: to know this type of shit to a degree.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't think it's too deep. I think
Speaker 3: it's it's something that should be taught for sure, for sure.
Speaker 8: But it's one of the things where now we're in
Speaker 8: the social media age or internet age, where you gotta
Speaker 8: seek it.
Speaker 7: Everybody like, man, it's right there, you should.
Speaker 6: Go get it.
Speaker 5: Because at the same time, it's like we love OG's.
Speaker 5: People love to be like, oh, we need more ogs.
Speaker 5: We know, we love that idea of an older man
Speaker 5: who can give game, But.
Speaker 3: If he ain't experienced nothing, or if he haven't been
Speaker 3: through certain trials or tribulation, what's game can he really
Speaker 3: give you?
Speaker 5: So we like the idea of the OG, but we
Speaker 5: don't like the story of the OG.
Speaker 3: We like the idea of you know, these people who
Speaker 3: are wise, but then we criticize our just story.
Speaker 2: No grandfather, he.
Speaker 7: Was doing this, who we can telling?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 7: My dad right now we're now he'll be like, son,
Speaker 7: that ain't the way to do it.
Speaker 4: Because people don't like being criticized and don't like being
Speaker 4: told to do so the second that they can use
Speaker 4: that to their advantage in one way or the other day,
Speaker 4: will it's oh, well, you should listen to that person.
Speaker 4: It's always and that's usually what it is. If it's
Speaker 4: not you, you should listen to that person. If it's you,
Speaker 4: you can't tell me what to do because you did
Speaker 4: the same thing. That's pretty much what it is because
Speaker 4: no one wants that.
Speaker 3: Is exactly what Van Laketon just said on his show
Speaker 3: The Last One when he was talking about uh A
Speaker 3: Sulton Kendrick. He was basically saying, like, well, who can
Speaker 3: speak up for black women? Because who's more rap? Like
Speaker 3: who is clean enough or has a clean enough image
Speaker 3: to say something without it be like, well you can't
Speaker 3: say that because you're this, or you can't say that because.
Speaker 6: You're that Black women. Shits just jumpy.
Speaker 5: But not even not even that. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 5: why do we have to like have this moral ground
Speaker 5: on who can say what.
Speaker 8: I'm because don't nobody because don't nobody wants it? Like
Speaker 8: he just said, don't nobody want to be right wrong?
Speaker 8: They don't want to take accountability of what they're doing,
Speaker 8: so they're gonna point out every little thing like I
Speaker 8: seen shows point out the no Vassiline verse like like bro,
Speaker 8: the nigga don't even say your name, bro, but do
Speaker 8: your thing.
Speaker 4: And they'll do it either which way. If you're a
Speaker 4: person who has the experience and you tell someone something
Speaker 4: they don't want to hear, Oh, you can't tell me
Speaker 4: that you did that. If you didn't have the experience,
Speaker 4: you don't even know, you ain't never seen it.
Speaker 5: You can tell me because if you want to hear it, Okay,
Speaker 5: all right, I get I mean I.
Speaker 7: You learn from the information, so you're going to be patient.
Speaker 7: We will come with you.
Speaker 8: Not just some people is just literally on their waiting
Speaker 8: to disagree with you. That's why even with some of
Speaker 8: the females that ain't married, but they might drop some
Speaker 8: jewels and the like she ain't even married, but it's like, damn,
Speaker 8: what she just said made right.
Speaker 6: I like that about peering, like not having kids.
Speaker 1: I don't have that emotional connections to kids, so I
Speaker 1: can see it from the outside. But people like you
Speaker 1: need kids, no, because then I would feel like you
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be able to carry out to act right.
Speaker 6: I would have to think of it from this emotional standard.
Speaker 7: And being apparent his emotional nigga. Kids will hurt your feelings, nigga, you.
Speaker 6: Need to stand up to they little lass go ahead.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you'd be like, damn, that's how you feel, nigga.
Speaker 8: My daughter got mad because we didn't have yams and
Speaker 8: said thanksgivings just ruined, so.
Speaker 7: Just so hot, nigga.
Speaker 8: I had to text your like, hey, look we got
Speaker 8: a couple of yams, but hey, I don't appreciate how
Speaker 8: you just, you know, the way you.
Speaker 4: Somebody else order. If she's not going to send up
Speaker 4: for yams and decency in society, then.
Speaker 2: Who will I feel you?
Speaker 7: But the way she just was like stormed out, Oh
Speaker 7: my god, the things giving you just brewing.
Speaker 6: Down looking out.
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