WEBVTT - 39 - NC - CONVOS ABOUT WHATS GANGSTA_mixdown

0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No

0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Salers Podcast with your host. Now fuck that with your

0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:16.000
<v Speaker 1>loaw glasses, Malone, My man Jobs back in the house.

0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:17.520
<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:17.720
<v Speaker 3>Man?

0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:19.360
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Jobs is really an incredible uh podcaster, one of my

0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:30.360
<v Speaker 1>favorite people to have a conversation with because he definitely

0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:32.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna get to it and he gonna ask you the

0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:37.320
<v Speaker 1>hard question, tell him the name of your podcast job Intellectually.

0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:41.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get Charlotte Maine, who is the president of

0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:44.720
<v Speaker 1>this network on intellectually Petty Radio for him and Job

0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.559
<v Speaker 1>to have a conversation because I think it'll be an

0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:53.080
<v Speaker 1>explosive conversation and that's that's the goal, because it's all about,

0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.200
<v Speaker 1>like me and Pete talked about handling people dreams last week,

0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:57.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, making sure we try to

0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.920
<v Speaker 1>help make other people's know what they want to happen

0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:02.640
<v Speaker 1>come true. You know what I'm saying, whether it's a

0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:08.360
<v Speaker 1>dream or not. My niece asked me something and it

0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:11.320
<v Speaker 1>blew me away. Shout up to my niece DJ and

0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.800
<v Speaker 1>a really smart, smart, smart young.

0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:18.039
<v Speaker 4>Woman lower right. For those of you who are wondering.

0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and if you and if you're not watching, because

0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:25.920
<v Speaker 1>this ain't a live stream, this is DJA, introduce yourself.

0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't really do this on those sillings, but I'm

0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:28.560
<v Speaker 1>a doer for DJNA.

0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:33.160
<v Speaker 3>Well, my stage name is Nay only my mother calls

0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:35.800
<v Speaker 3>me Djna. My family calls me Nana, but you can

0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:39.560
<v Speaker 3>call me Nay. I'm just a person that just does

0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.680
<v Speaker 3>a lot of cool stuff. I even put myself in

0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:46.399
<v Speaker 3>a box. But yeah, me and my uncle have these

0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:50.840
<v Speaker 3>conversations because I really have faith in the intellect of

0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.320
<v Speaker 3>the world. But I think I'm just starting to realize

0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:54.560
<v Speaker 3>that people are just stupid.

0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:56.080
<v Speaker 5>And I have to be.

0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Okay with people just being stupid, but I just be like,

0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:01.520
<v Speaker 3>why are not using your brain?

0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.800
<v Speaker 5>So I'm working on my own show, trying to learn

0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:05.279
<v Speaker 5>the live.

0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:08.800
<v Speaker 3>Stream and stuff called cultural conversations, and we're just gonna

0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:13.840
<v Speaker 3>explore that, you know, Avenue, white people are just really stupid.

0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.120
<v Speaker 5>It just frustrates me. It really frustrates me.

0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:19.640
<v Speaker 4>That's great, It's like my favorite things.

0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:23.360
<v Speaker 6>Man. I don't think people are stupid.

0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, here's things people are stupid, silence things, people

0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.720
<v Speaker 1>are stupid, pete things people are stupid.

0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't people are really stupid, and because I have faith,

0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.800
<v Speaker 3>I have faith in them like y'all, not like God

0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:37.000
<v Speaker 3>gave y'all that brain.

0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.960
<v Speaker 5>I have faith, But every I just get disappointed every.

0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:42.519
<v Speaker 1>Time I bought my man, Joey west Side to get

0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:43.520
<v Speaker 1>in on this conversation.

0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:44.840
<v Speaker 6>So we got to take our time.

0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Joey west Side one third or the one ten super

0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.280
<v Speaker 1>group out of the West Coast, one half of the

0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.840
<v Speaker 1>La Gihnson, just an overall good brother. And of course

0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.919
<v Speaker 1>me and Peter here this is no siblings right here,

0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:57.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And we're finna get to

0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:02.880
<v Speaker 1>it really easy. My niece Pete was asking me, so

0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.360
<v Speaker 1>back to that point before we get for it. I

0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:07.960
<v Speaker 1>think people are distracted. I don't think people are stupid.

0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're incapable of learning. Pete disagrees with me.

0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:15.360
<v Speaker 1>I understand, but people are not incapable of learning. It

0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:18.959
<v Speaker 1>just takes different work to teach different people certain things,

0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:22.119
<v Speaker 1>and it's not easy. We don't all learn the same way,

0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:25.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's just not fair, but we don't. But people

0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:28.960
<v Speaker 1>aren't stupid, they're just distracted. Their own life makes it

0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.280
<v Speaker 1>makes it really tough for them to listen, you know,

0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:33.560
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So it's hard for people to let

0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.720
<v Speaker 1>alone iq intellect. Rather, it's something that's like a gift

0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.720
<v Speaker 1>that ain't even normal. Everybody don't have intellect, you know

0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:43.800
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So I try my best not to really,

0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:45.840
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, focused on that because I

0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:49.080
<v Speaker 1>focused on trying to teach people. But my niece asked

0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.120
<v Speaker 1>me something Pete that I thought was crazy, and it

0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:54.160
<v Speaker 1>was something that Jobs told me before too, because me

0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:57.000
<v Speaker 1>and Jobs had this incredible conversation again y'all check it out,

0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:00.680
<v Speaker 1>but we were talking about blackness and it was something

0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:03.440
<v Speaker 1>to that effect of what being black is all about,

0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:07.600
<v Speaker 1>and I had critigue for somebody in their pursuit of

0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:12.200
<v Speaker 1>highest excellency peep of blackness. He was like, well, how

0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:16.960
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna say something You're a crip? And it

0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.720
<v Speaker 1>threw me off so crazy because I was like, well,

0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:24.200
<v Speaker 1>what does that mean that I'm a crypt and you know,

0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:34.480
<v Speaker 1>are black. That's not the point he was saying, because

0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:39.000
<v Speaker 1>obviously the stigma and the misinformation about crips. There is

0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.520
<v Speaker 1>some validity to some of the conversation, but there's a

0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of misinformation. And my niece brought it up to

0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:47.279
<v Speaker 1>me again She was like, why do people think gang

0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:55.640
<v Speaker 1>members are stupid? And I just thought that that made

0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.760
<v Speaker 1>for a great conversation because this is one of those

0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:01.919
<v Speaker 1>misconceptions where I brought Jobs, because Jobs is somebody that

0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.360
<v Speaker 1>is from Detroit and he understands, you know, he has

0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:09.159
<v Speaker 1>a very outside perspective of gangs. Pete, even though you're

0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:13.320
<v Speaker 1>from Orange County, you still kind of know gangsters, you

0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.640
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. You know, actually some pretty high

0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:16.400
<v Speaker 1>level guys.

0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:17.080
<v Speaker 7>Joey.

0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:19.680
<v Speaker 1>You grew up in the smack dead middle of South

0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Central in the eighties, you know what I'm saying, and

0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.560
<v Speaker 1>in the eightieth Street area of Los Angeles, right, So

0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.560
<v Speaker 1>it's like you have a perception from being close enough

0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:31.800
<v Speaker 1>to it, you know what I mean. And then obviously

0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.920
<v Speaker 1>my niece is the same, and I've ta'ma crypt, so

0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I have all insight information. So I thought this would

0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:42.680
<v Speaker 1>be a great conversation for people to listen to. Yeah,

0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.800
<v Speaker 1>what do you think, Nana is the greatest misconception of

0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:47.680
<v Speaker 1>people thinking that I'm a crypt?

0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:49.039
<v Speaker 6>Means what exactly?

0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's kind of hard because we all grew up

0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:58.320
<v Speaker 3>in the same house, so I like, it was a

0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:00.599
<v Speaker 3>long time before I actually knew what I was doing.

0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.160
<v Speaker 3>I think like Robert had got like shot or something

0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:06.320
<v Speaker 3>before I knew, like, oh my gosh, they're gang bangers,

0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:10.360
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean? So y'all are not like spooky,

0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh I'm gonna scare you, Rob Like that's not how

0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.200
<v Speaker 3>it works. And you know, I'm a spiritual girl. He

0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:22.240
<v Speaker 3>So it's like war and tribalism skims way beyond the streets.

0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:27.360
<v Speaker 3>So I think that movies and and like society has

0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.279
<v Speaker 3>painted this picture of what a gang banger is, and

0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:33.279
<v Speaker 3>that LA has like this, we have the best marketing

0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.000
<v Speaker 3>in branding for gangs. So people have the stereotype and

0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:39.360
<v Speaker 3>it's like, no, these are people who are like humans,

0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.919
<v Speaker 3>multifaceted people. They're like intelligent, like y'all didn't wake up

0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:44.320
<v Speaker 3>one day and say, oh I want to grow up

0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:46.000
<v Speaker 3>and be a crip, like you know what I mean,

0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:49.200
<v Speaker 3>Like y' are humans yet?

0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.840
<v Speaker 5>Right? So I just so confused.

0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:55.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Josh, what do you see y'all? As you know,

0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:59.560
<v Speaker 1>because you from you're out of Detroit. You you obviously

0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:01.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe you got a decade on me in

0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:02.599
<v Speaker 1>wisdom and time.

0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:04.480
<v Speaker 6>You've been on this earth a little longer.

0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Damn old in fact, nigga, and I disagree with y'all.

0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.280
<v Speaker 6>That is not what I said. I am, I don't care,

0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:12.440
<v Speaker 6>No I did. It's not Oh, I'm saying.

0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:15.640
<v Speaker 1>You have a decade on me for sure, being on

0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:18.680
<v Speaker 1>this earth, so you know more than me. What do

0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.640
<v Speaker 1>you disagree like? What do you feel people like? What

0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:23.800
<v Speaker 1>do you think game? What do you think it means

0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:24.720
<v Speaker 1>to be a gang member?

0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.080
<v Speaker 2>It means it made a bad decision in life?

0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:31.880
<v Speaker 6>Did you yes? What's the decision? You mad?

0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:35.280
<v Speaker 2>Give me the lifespan your average game banker that doesn't

0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:35.960
<v Speaker 2>include prison?

0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.840
<v Speaker 6>Oh, I've heard my whole life. Twenty five is the number.

0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:45.160
<v Speaker 2>But I think average gang banker that you're familiar with

0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.960
<v Speaker 2>in your city, your area of your community, that doesn't

0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:50.920
<v Speaker 2>include death or prison.

0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:54.680
<v Speaker 6>You said, what's the lifespan?

0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.280
<v Speaker 4>How about this? What's the percentage? What's the percentage of fact,

0:07:59.000 --> 0:07:59.800
<v Speaker 4>never get killed?

0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:01.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.600
<v Speaker 1>No, no, that that number got to be very minute.

0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:06.360
<v Speaker 1>That number gotta probably be like fifteen percent.

0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.920
<v Speaker 2>If your wife is a business, how is becoming a

0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:17.080
<v Speaker 2>crypt a good business decision? You don't become a crypto.

0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:23.440
<v Speaker 2>That's why jobs you There are there are rules, No,

0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:27.520
<v Speaker 2>there is there is an initiation. No it's a decision

0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:27.920
<v Speaker 2>you make.

0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:28.240
<v Speaker 5>No.

0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh, so they so they come, they come kick your

0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:32.920
<v Speaker 2>door in at three o'clock in the morning and say, nigga,

0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:33.360
<v Speaker 2>you cripping.

0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:38.080
<v Speaker 4>So of the residents and neighborhoods that have a gang

0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:42.679
<v Speaker 4>a tribute to that neighborhood geographic area are members.

0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:45.319
<v Speaker 6>Yeah for the most part.

0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:50.120
<v Speaker 4>Please come on, bro okay, come on, come on, like really, come.

0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:51.480
<v Speaker 6>On, it's new on.

0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:55.560
<v Speaker 2>They have to abide by the gooniness of other niggas.

0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:57.600
<v Speaker 6>Is no gooniness or nothing.

0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Yr niggas is telling niggas in your neighborhood you can't

0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:05.000
<v Speaker 2>do certain shit nigga because you live near me.

0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:06.320
<v Speaker 6>That's not true.

0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:07.200
<v Speaker 2>You're kidding me.

0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:08.880
<v Speaker 6>That's not how it goes.

0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:12.439
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna tell me that some nigga in your set

0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:17.520
<v Speaker 2>is okay to openly disagree with the crips and agree

0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:21.040
<v Speaker 2>with the Bloods or whatever whoever your ops are. No nigga,

0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.040
<v Speaker 2>y'all gonna move that nigga in certain ways.

0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:26.240
<v Speaker 6>What do you mean to agree with them?

0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Just what I said? What do you mean you don't

0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:33.640
<v Speaker 2>have the option, as Joe Blow citizen to say fuck

0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:35.760
<v Speaker 2>the crips and you live in a crypt neighborhood.

0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.640
<v Speaker 1>That's like, that's like saying jobs. If somebody living next

0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.480
<v Speaker 1>door to you they said, uh, fuck black.

0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:44.560
<v Speaker 2>People, I'm not gonna go beat them up niggas.

0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.320
<v Speaker 6>That's a lie. No, I'm not as you will.

0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:47.880
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not.

0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm fifty two years old or nobody in your neighbor

0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.439
<v Speaker 1>black people. Nobody in your neighborhood would beat them up

0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:54.240
<v Speaker 1>if they said.

0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:54.760
<v Speaker 6>Fuck black people.

0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:56.079
<v Speaker 2>Not in my neighborhood.

0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:59.199
<v Speaker 6>No, so nobody where you grew up at the old white.

0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Dude next door to me. Man, No, no, not a brass

0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:03.319
<v Speaker 2>as they come, and we know that.

0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:08.240
<v Speaker 1>Not fifty two year old jobs, twenty two year old jobs.

0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Let's say a white man moved next to your house

0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.120
<v Speaker 1>and said, you know what, fuck niggers. That's why I

0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:17.720
<v Speaker 1>met with it. I don't want niggers on my grass

0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.640
<v Speaker 1>at twenty two. Yes, I agree with you exactly.

0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:23.760
<v Speaker 2>That's a four business decision on my part, though I

0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.800
<v Speaker 2>allowed this man to control my energy to lead me

0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.840
<v Speaker 2>in a position that's not conducive to be me being

0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:31.800
<v Speaker 2>successful long term.

0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, bro, But again, poverty means success doesn't dictate everything.

0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.559
<v Speaker 1>That's not the reason to be alive. Like the reason

0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.160
<v Speaker 1>to be alive is not business. The reason to be

0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.920
<v Speaker 1>alive is not all of these things that we decide

0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.400
<v Speaker 1>we want to live for, because it could mean probably

0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.040
<v Speaker 1>would be selling out a lot of things.

0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:54.400
<v Speaker 6>What do you stand for? Okay, if you just stand

0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:55.240
<v Speaker 6>for hey.

0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:55.400
<v Speaker 3>You know what.

0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:56.719
<v Speaker 1>I just want to make a lot of money, you

0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:58.480
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. There's a lot of different decisions

0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.920
<v Speaker 1>we can all make. But let's go back to.

0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.360
<v Speaker 3>We have to go into like how do people view

0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.120
<v Speaker 3>like the Black Panther Party, Like how do people you

0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:11.559
<v Speaker 3>other types of groups? Are militias are gains? Like are

0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:13.760
<v Speaker 3>is going to the army of bad business decisions?

0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:19.000
<v Speaker 1>A great business decision because it's legal, Like does the

0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:22.320
<v Speaker 1>presidents of state said everything you think is right and wrong?

0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:26.040
<v Speaker 8>The legal the legalities definitely play a part in that.

0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.600
<v Speaker 8>For sure, the fact that it's legal, people will say

0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:29.520
<v Speaker 8>it's a good decision.

0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:32.440
<v Speaker 1>But at that point in you have to behest of

0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:35.760
<v Speaker 1>whatever the state tells you is correct, which at one time.

0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:39.640
<v Speaker 8>The period any people feel like the law is right

0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:42.199
<v Speaker 8>no matter what, because it's the rules. It's like, it's

0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.640
<v Speaker 8>the rules of the world, So why wouldn't you follow

0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:46.280
<v Speaker 8>them if you know you're gonna get in trouble if

0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:46.960
<v Speaker 8>you don't follow them.

0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:51.640
<v Speaker 1>But benefit though, and peach point is is simple, right,

0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.719
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna make peak point. The laws are what

0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:58.040
<v Speaker 1>most people or the idea of society come together and said,

0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:02.520
<v Speaker 1>these are the rules. In all fairness, the rules don't

0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:08.240
<v Speaker 1>fit everybody, They're not designed too. So then why would

0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:11.320
<v Speaker 1>so as a person that lives his life outside of

0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.240
<v Speaker 1>the law, why would I be stupid? Or why is

0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:15.560
<v Speaker 1>it bad business?

0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.920
<v Speaker 2>So let me ask you this. I'm sorry, Pete, but

0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.960
<v Speaker 2>you're you're a gang member, you got stripes, niggas love you,

0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:26.200
<v Speaker 2>you got all the respect, the women crazy for you,

0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.840
<v Speaker 2>and then your girl gets pregnant. And in that instance,

0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.000
<v Speaker 2>are you saying, damn, I hope my son grows up

0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:32.920
<v Speaker 2>to be a great crip.

0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:35.920
<v Speaker 6>No, I don't want to raise him in the same community.

0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:37.400
<v Speaker 5>Well some people have.

0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.080
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I can't sure you.

0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:44.480
<v Speaker 4>There's a connotation with that though, that's not possive.

0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:49.840
<v Speaker 6>But again, again, these are economic things.

0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.880
<v Speaker 4>Like it's not an economically good decision.

0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm saying these are the economic side of it.

0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.520
<v Speaker 1>It's actually a fantastic economic decision. That's another thing.

0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:00.439
<v Speaker 4>It's not a short sighted economic decisions.

0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:01.680
<v Speaker 6>No, it's long term.

0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:02.440
<v Speaker 4>No, it's not.

0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:05.840
<v Speaker 6>It is not period one of the greatest long term

0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:06.800
<v Speaker 6>decisions I ever made.

0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.600
<v Speaker 4>Get you, you're very very rare.

0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Again, how the type of persons, not the anomaly, the

0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.680
<v Speaker 1>type of person you are determines a type of crip

0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:24.440
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be. So again, some things that we

0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.760
<v Speaker 1>are blaming on cripping is more an indication of somebody

0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:32.520
<v Speaker 1>being a dick. Like right, it's like just because like

0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.240
<v Speaker 1>being a crip or a blood or POWERU is an

0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:41.200
<v Speaker 1>outlaw organization. They don't advocate like the sexual sort of women.

0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.800
<v Speaker 1>That's not accepted. Like there are still standards that you

0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:46.080
<v Speaker 1>are supposed to live with.

0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Are you serious?

0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:50.040
<v Speaker 6>Bro, I'm telling you the truth.

0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:58.199
<v Speaker 8>So that's not it happens butt that y'all go to parties.

0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.120
<v Speaker 2>Ya y'all not feeling up on the ass.

0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:06.120
<v Speaker 4>Up even even removing that Like that's really.

0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.240
<v Speaker 3>Like I just told my uncle the other day, the

0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.559
<v Speaker 3>only time I never felt safe in Watts was when

0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:14.240
<v Speaker 3>there was like a child molester. I never not felt

0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:18.440
<v Speaker 3>safe in Watts with knowing gang bangers from all different hoods,

0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.360
<v Speaker 3>I never not feel safe. But if I knew it

0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.000
<v Speaker 3>was somebody who was kidnapping kids or something. That's when

0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:27.240
<v Speaker 3>I didn't feel safe scary. But I'm saying I grew

0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:29.920
<v Speaker 3>up in a house full of gang bangers and I never,

0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:31.120
<v Speaker 3>not once, not.

0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.360
<v Speaker 7>Long to them. Because your family is your friends.

0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:38.640
<v Speaker 6>Go ahead, I'm sorry.

0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:42.760
<v Speaker 4>Two items like with regard to like the military parallel,

0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:49.400
<v Speaker 4>there is amidst the conflict of military usage and dispersement.

0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.640
<v Speaker 4>While there are civilian casualties, there are also civilian beneficiaries.

0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:58.240
<v Speaker 4>I don't see a decent scale of civilian beneficiaries to

0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:03.080
<v Speaker 4>gang banging. Usually the beneficial juries are consolidated to the membership. Additionally,

0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:07.600
<v Speaker 4>there's a difference between you not feeling safe being around

0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.120
<v Speaker 4>a neighborhood full of gang bangers and for the gang

0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.720
<v Speaker 4>bangers themselves not to be exposed to an enormous amount

0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:17.560
<v Speaker 4>of risk for the participation within the activities.

0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.080
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this, you don't you feel very

0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:28.040
<v Speaker 2>safe and watch you should feel safe period. However, I

0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:31.360
<v Speaker 2>drop you in Compton if and I'm an outsider, I

0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:35.359
<v Speaker 2>just see shit on TV. Compton is more more bloods.

0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:37.880
<v Speaker 1>No, no, it's more crips and lost only place in

0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, in the County of Los Angeles that has

0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:41.560
<v Speaker 1>more bloods is Inglewood.

0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.080
<v Speaker 2>We'll say you. I'll drop you off from Inglewood at

0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.600
<v Speaker 2>three o'clock in the morning with a blue rag glued

0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.720
<v Speaker 2>to your forehead. Do you feel safe?

0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:50.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Really, you're an anomaly because the rest of us are

0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:54.760
<v Speaker 2>scared shit.

0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.600
<v Speaker 3>Because I have this idea that gang bangers are Boogeyman

0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:00.960
<v Speaker 3>and that's what they are.

0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:05.240
<v Speaker 2>No, I have this idea that they subscribe and practice

0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:06.160
<v Speaker 2>what they say they do.

0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:08.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but but but what that?

0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:13.720
<v Speaker 2>Huh? Why would you just I should assume y'all lions?

0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.280
<v Speaker 5>Why would they mess with you? Though? Like? What? What? Why?

0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:17.760
<v Speaker 4>You?

0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:19.200
<v Speaker 6>His question to me.

0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.960
<v Speaker 1>He's saying, if, as a crip, if I went over

0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:23.920
<v Speaker 1>there with a blue rag and I went to Inglewood,

0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:24.880
<v Speaker 1>could there be a problem.

0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:28.840
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, I've been pressed by gang bangers before just shopping.

0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:30.880
<v Speaker 7>Yes, exactly.

0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.080
<v Speaker 1>But I would have I would have the same problem though,

0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.720
<v Speaker 1>jobs if I went to Russia and I had an

0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:40.720
<v Speaker 1>American flag glued on my head, I would have that

0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:42.400
<v Speaker 1>same problem you would.

0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:50.680
<v Speaker 2>How do you actually think, though, that cripping is a country?

0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.360
<v Speaker 6>It is? My country is my nation.

0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:58.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but your country is the size of Detroit.

0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.120
<v Speaker 6>Facts, but does that means that I have us.

0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:06.199
<v Speaker 2>The rest of us have a view that y'all niggas

0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:07.800
<v Speaker 2>participated in giving.

0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:11.119
<v Speaker 6>Us no no I think, I think.

0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So remember Hollywood painted the picture like Hollywood painted

0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.880
<v Speaker 1>the picture of what you know about gangs, and then

0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:22.920
<v Speaker 1>there's the actual nuance of gangs. So where colors said, hey,

0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:28.720
<v Speaker 1>it's blue versus red, and maybe to some degree, I ironically, there's.

0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:30.720
<v Speaker 4>Certain lines where that's true. There's certain lines where it's

0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:30.960
<v Speaker 4>not true.

0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Depends on twenty pete when you think about it, because

0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:39.879
<v Speaker 1>bloods didn't really pick up red rags until maybe the

0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:43.720
<v Speaker 1>late seventies, you know what I mean. The whole idea

0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:47.760
<v Speaker 1>of red versus blue is explained really loosely. It's heightened

0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:50.480
<v Speaker 1>and condensed right for people to get what's going on,

0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:54.360
<v Speaker 1>but it's not actually nuanced to say that the relationship

0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.040
<v Speaker 1>between communities. Look, one thing I don't want to do

0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.480
<v Speaker 1>on this podcast is to defend gang banging. That's that's

0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.879
<v Speaker 1>not the point. If you grow up in poor communities,

0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:06.400
<v Speaker 1>poor people bond together, create these crews, and they don't

0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.720
<v Speaker 1>care about what the laws say. They gonna make something

0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:10.560
<v Speaker 1>of their life. That's as simple as a gang is.

0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:12.080
<v Speaker 1>That's all it is that's.

0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:17.200
<v Speaker 2>A fraction of our community. Most poor people work, pay

0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:22.200
<v Speaker 2>their taxes and die. Sure, so they don't rob anybody.

0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:23.320
<v Speaker 2>They don't tell nobody.

0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Don't think rob Robin Robin has nothing to do with gangs.

0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:29.760
<v Speaker 6>That's not a part of the function. That's just.

0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.080
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to rob what. Let me ask you this.

0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Let's say you guys are the nicest people in the

0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:41.200
<v Speaker 2>history of nice niggas. Why do you ask people where

0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:42.680
<v Speaker 2>they're from?

0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:46.040
<v Speaker 6>Because they could be a threat to my existence and

0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:50.680
<v Speaker 6>asking them a question? Yes, would you you know if

0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.320
<v Speaker 6>I can if I understand.

0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:54.000
<v Speaker 4>Threat to me or not?

0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:54.359
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:55.159
<v Speaker 6>Simple?

0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:56.320
<v Speaker 4>I get that.

0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:58.440
<v Speaker 2>You assume a threat. You don't ask a threat.

0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the fairness of cripping. I don't like cripping

0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:06.320
<v Speaker 1>is to ask you are you a threat? Are you

0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:07.360
<v Speaker 1>a part of a community.

0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:11.320
<v Speaker 4>That's like, no one asked me where I'm from. I

0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:14.080
<v Speaker 4>get asked, do you know where you're at? That's what

0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:19.520
<v Speaker 4>I get asked. I don't get asked where you're from?

0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:18.040
<v Speaker 3>You?

0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:22.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the closest I got to get rolled up on

0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:25.359
<v Speaker 4>hard You know this is the liquor store on Confident

0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:29.000
<v Speaker 4>ninety second. Oh yeah, about one fifty eight with some

0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:31.080
<v Speaker 4>girl from one hundred and thirteenth trying to get a bottle.

0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:36.400
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, I was like they though I was.

0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:39.360
<v Speaker 4>I was about to leave my car with her in it.

0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.480
<v Speaker 4>I was gonna clock the first guy because I seen

0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:44.199
<v Speaker 4>him coming in, and I'm like, they're gonna fuck me

0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:46.320
<v Speaker 4>on the way out, and they kind of like, get

0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:47.960
<v Speaker 4>by the doors. I'm coming out. I'm like, I'm gonna

0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:50.560
<v Speaker 4>clock the first guy on the right, booking around the corner.

0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm one year out of college, I'm.

0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:52.600
<v Speaker 7>Out of there.

0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.560
<v Speaker 4>And as I walk out, the police pulled into the lots,

0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:57.560
<v Speaker 4>so it didn't have to do it. And I was

0:19:57.600 --> 0:19:59.800
<v Speaker 4>still concerned about the police because I was already tossed.

0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:03.640
<v Speaker 6>As soon as I pull off, they gonna pull me over.

0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:06.960
<v Speaker 6>And to give you a drunk driving might be worse.

0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:14.159
<v Speaker 6>No jobs, So okay, you don't go ahead.

0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:16.160
<v Speaker 2>How much.

0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:25.080
<v Speaker 4>Net worth money from downward asset value pressure on real

0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:31.040
<v Speaker 4>estate has that created for all the homeowning residents in

0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.240
<v Speaker 4>the greater South Central area over the years.

0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Again, I think it's disingenuous to blame gang banging versus crack.

0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Gang banging is what ruined it, because one thing gang

0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:44.639
<v Speaker 1>banging never did was ruin one nine. Know you know

0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you're familiar with the Dilamo area. I ain't got to

0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:49.720
<v Speaker 1>tell you, Pete. You you be around Joey, you know

0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:53.800
<v Speaker 1>about Delamo, Niece, you know about Guardina. There's gangs there,

0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:57.840
<v Speaker 1>but the property do not lose an inch of value because.

0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:03.160
<v Speaker 5>It's hard to say that Downy has freaking more time.

0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:06.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, big old mansions and there's gangs and Downy's

0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:07.800
<v Speaker 3>like there's a whole.

0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:11.720
<v Speaker 1>There's there's gangs in this particular area of Corson that

0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:12.520
<v Speaker 1>we call Dilamo.

0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:16.120
<v Speaker 6>Right, we're head and Jason Cash and all those.

0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.280
<v Speaker 5>Guys mostly houses.

0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Over there, the beautiful city. So again, gangs don't be

0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:25.000
<v Speaker 1>value that if.

0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.879
<v Speaker 4>You were to compare price per square footage there to

0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:30.159
<v Speaker 4>other places, I'll tell you right now, white money is

0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:32.080
<v Speaker 4>not going there, and that's most of the money.

0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Well they watch now He's right, not really, you know what.

0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:39.760
<v Speaker 1>You're making a great point, But it's not because they don't.

0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:41.920
<v Speaker 1>They're not going there because crips and bloods are there.

0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:44.399
<v Speaker 1>They not going there, Pete, because black people there.

0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:50.000
<v Speaker 4>They view the two as being largely intertwined.

0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:52.680
<v Speaker 6>Irresponsible in cowardice.

0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:55.919
<v Speaker 4>You got it might be it might be that, but

0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:58.080
<v Speaker 4>it's it's the truth.

0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:00.600
<v Speaker 7>The truth of the matter is, you look at but.

0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:02.040
<v Speaker 4>Johns didn't make it that way.

0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:02.600
<v Speaker 5>Hold up.

0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:04.840
<v Speaker 1>But the goal is also not to have white people

0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:06.719
<v Speaker 1>come into the community to raise the value.

0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:09.800
<v Speaker 4>Why would you not want to make money.

0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:14.000
<v Speaker 2>The goal is really niggas not devaluing the community.

0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:16.840
<v Speaker 6>But they they never did devalue the community.

0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:20.119
<v Speaker 2>They cracked devalue in the community.

0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:24.200
<v Speaker 4>No, that's not true, because it is.

0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:25.040
<v Speaker 5>It is not.

0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:25.920
<v Speaker 7>I'll prove that it's not.

0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:28.399
<v Speaker 5>How are you serious, Yes, I.

0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:31.720
<v Speaker 4>Will, yes, absolutely, yes, because you can go back and

0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:33.520
<v Speaker 4>look at the trend of what was going on there

0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:37.400
<v Speaker 4>relative to other areas in the decade preceding that.

0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Where okay, but no, you're discounting the bullshit they pulled

0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:45.919
<v Speaker 2>financially with the red lining and and all that ship like.

0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:49.280
<v Speaker 2>You can't discount that because all of that ship before crack, Like,

0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:53.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm winning the crack fucked us up. However, you can't

0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:55.080
<v Speaker 2>hide your hand, bro y'all. Niggas had a lot to

0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:55.760
<v Speaker 2>do with that.

0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:56.359
<v Speaker 6>That's not true.

0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:57.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm pressing that.

0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:02.960
<v Speaker 2>They used the gangs. I would believe.

0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:05.879
<v Speaker 6>No, no, no, they did not use the gangs. They

0:23:06.000 --> 0:23:07.560
<v Speaker 6>use brothers period.

0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 1>That's not jobs. Can't do is tell me that criss

0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:22.680
<v Speaker 1>and bloods is what the value or was used to

0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:25.600
<v Speaker 1>push crack outside of every other brother around this country.

0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:29.240
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this, at any point in the

0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:32.600
<v Speaker 2>in the height of the gang era, could a random

0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:37.280
<v Speaker 2>nigga stand on your block and sell dope without approval?

0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:40.399
<v Speaker 7>Dealers? Are the dope users?

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:41.520
<v Speaker 2>The dope dealer?

0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:43.920
<v Speaker 6>No, No, you have to be a part of the

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:45.159
<v Speaker 6>community to monetize it.

0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:50.560
<v Speaker 2>That's so you can't sit up hereymous though.

0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:54.560
<v Speaker 1>But hold on, Trump doesn't want you to earn in

0:23:54.600 --> 0:24:00.240
<v Speaker 1>this country right now if you're not a citizen. Okay,

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:03.159
<v Speaker 1>So then what would be the difference based off of

0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:06.200
<v Speaker 1>nation based concept a group of people trying to monetize

0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>the situation together.

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:11.120
<v Speaker 6>Why is it wrong that.

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:14.120
<v Speaker 4>Are being paid to be here? So that's different you guys.

0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying Trump is trying to get rid of all that, right,

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and I can't disagree because I respect both concepts.

0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 6>I respect the.

0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Fault the sense of humanitarian and democrats and liberals by

0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 1>saying everybody could come here and make a living, and

0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I respect the conservative mind of the current or of

0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:36.960
<v Speaker 1>coming in party where They're like, no, you need to

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:40.400
<v Speaker 1>come in the correct way. Either way, I'm fine with it.

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 1>But what I'm saying the jobs is no, gang banging

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 1>had nothing to Okay, I can't say completely nothing, but

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.280
<v Speaker 1>it is not because I'm not sure, so I don't

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:51.720
<v Speaker 1>want to stand on the hill. But I know for

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 1>sure based off the economics and warehouses was priced that

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:58.200
<v Speaker 1>and watching price curves. It happened way before gang banging

0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 1>it and it owns only since gang banging went up,

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 1>it didn't.

0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:03.880
<v Speaker 6>It never went down. It went up.

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Did it go up slower in places when crack It

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 1>was around the mid eighties when crack, Remember gang banging

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:12.679
<v Speaker 1>wars started to happen because of crack money. Yes, like

0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:15.199
<v Speaker 1>people couldn't afford them type of guns and weaponry in

0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the in the in the seventies, they it wasn't a

0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:20.399
<v Speaker 1>big gang violence. Like the biggest thing that happened in

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:22.840
<v Speaker 1>the seventies or one of the most talked about things

0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 1>is when they beat this guy up for his leather

0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:27.560
<v Speaker 1>jacket in Hollywood and he died because they they beat

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:30.359
<v Speaker 1>him up, Like he died because of the fight.

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Crack didn't really jump off to the.

0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:35.400
<v Speaker 3>Five.

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 1>So again, so again, that's that's when the that's when

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the property started to devalue.

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:46.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'll give you that. Like I agree with the

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:49.240
<v Speaker 2>devaluating part. I do. I agree, you know, like I agree.

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 2>My point is is even before the gangs were heavily

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 2>into celling it themselves, you had to pay a tax.

0:25:57.160 --> 0:26:02.159
<v Speaker 2>It's the same thing, bro, It's just were you not

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:03.320
<v Speaker 2>supposed to have.

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 6>To do pay a tax to live in this country?

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:07.680
<v Speaker 2>If you don't have to pay your talks to break the.

0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:11.440
<v Speaker 6>Law, let's why would you think you shouldn't.

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:13.679
<v Speaker 2>Why would you think you should?

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 1>That's you paid so you feel like it's okay if

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:21.479
<v Speaker 1>the Uncle Sam extorts you. But if you mad if

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 1>the community saying, hey, the same thing applies.

0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:27.679
<v Speaker 2>To shoot back at y'all niggas true. As long as

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 2>you can back at Uncle Sam, I'm gonna lose that.

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 7>Question.

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:39.159
<v Speaker 4>While it is enormously financially and efficient tax system to

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 4>public services apparatus, and I believe me, that's the service

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 4>the understatement of the centry. But what would you say

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:54.400
<v Speaker 4>the localized public services are to non members proliferated by

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:57.399
<v Speaker 4>gangs via taxes and earnings earned by gangs.

0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:01.320
<v Speaker 6>Nobody makes people that don't earn it illegally pay taxes.

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:03.439
<v Speaker 4>Not to understand that, But what are you doing with

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 4>the taxes?

0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 6>No, again, you just won't be over here selling drugs.

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 6>You don't get text.

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:14.440
<v Speaker 4>What are you doing with the revenue? Then? What services

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 4>are being offered to the non members in the community

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 4>via the revenue.

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:21.639
<v Speaker 1>They're not offering anything to the non members. Okay, yeah,

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 1>but but the members themselves, because remember, everybody's a member.

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 1>So even if somebody is not, like Joey is not

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 1>from a tree, but Joey's from Atrey. I always tell

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 1>him this right, No, he's not an a tra No,

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 1>he never did the thought of initiation. Yes, he never

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:40.200
<v Speaker 1>had to go shoot a gun at somebody. But these

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:42.679
<v Speaker 1>are his family and friends. Rest is sure. If Joey

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>is there every day he goes to the store and

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>somebody jumps on one of his friends, he's gonna stand

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:49.399
<v Speaker 1>up for his friend and they'll be in a fight together.

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna be like, no, what I am not

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>a part of this gang. I'm not doing That's pretty

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 1>much everybody that grows up and said, community.

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 4>Joey, what's up? Would you feel comfortable jumping on the

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 4>verse and outwardly repping that you are eight trade gangster

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 4>crypt No. No, okay, so then you're not a member.

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:13.880
<v Speaker 6>That's not hold on.

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 8>I just said I know, I know what you Yeah,

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 8>I know what you're saying, but technically no, But culturally yes,

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:25.959
<v Speaker 8>I represent. I represent where I grew up there. And

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 8>when I represent that where I grew up, the streets

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:31.399
<v Speaker 8>I grew up on, the section I was in, and

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 8>I mentioned certain things that's in that area, then people

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 8>will be like, oh, that nigga from a tray where

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 8>you grew up.

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 4>At up there. Sure, but that's different than saying the

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 4>other part.

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 3>But that's just like kind of like at Howard, I

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 3>didn't pledge Divine nine, but Howard is the mecca for

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 3>all divine nine. So I have I know all the information,

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 3>but I'm not.

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 6>That is not the.

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Same thing because it's niggas in a trade that he

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 2>don't like this niggas bretniggas that that's in that neighborhood

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 2>that could get beat the fuck up tomorrow and that

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 2>neighborhood would not lose one ounce of sleep.

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 6>That's the same for me.

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 2>There's certain people that see the community trying to make

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 2>it seem like that everybody is a member. No, nigga,

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 2>everybody is not a member.

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 5>That's not, that's not, that's not I don't think that's not.

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 7>That's not.

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 6>Yes, it's just.

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 3>It's like a certain thing where it's like you just

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 3>grow grow up a certain way. It's not so much

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 3>that everybody is a member.

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 5>What I was saying is.

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 3>Like, I'm not a I'm not a part of Divine nine,

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 3>but I know a lot of information about it because

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 3>I went to school.

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 5>I was indoctrinated into the.

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 6>Certain friends or divine nines.

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>If somebody gives her a favorite that went there, they're

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a Divine nine. So culturally, that's how she raised.

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying, listen, when we're saying it's everybody a member,

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>are you saying it's everybody in the infantry. No, No,

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 1>everybody's not in the infantry part of whatever that community is.

0:29:56.840 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>But everybody's from the community, and the community selected that title.

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 6>That's what I'm saying.

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Jobs Like, everybody in America is an American, you know

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. We all don't join the military, we

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 1>all ain't going to bust a gun, but you're an

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>American and there is a sense of responsibility in being

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>an American, and when people don't have that sense of responsibility,

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 1>it is questioned standardly amongst Americans. Well, it's the same

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 1>things in our communities, right, Like Joey is not an

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 1>a trade gangster cryp, he is not a part of

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>the infantry, but because he grew up in the territory

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>that is known as the a trade gangs, the crypts,

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>there is a level of responsibility that comes with it. Now,

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean he's an infantry man. No, he's not

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 1>a jar head. Nope, he's not going to shoot. No,

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>you don't have a problem with most sixties. But culturally

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 1>the way he grew up, that is going to be

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>he's going to have a disdain for certain communities because

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>they killed his friends growing up.

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 6>People going to have a disdain for him because of

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 6>where he grew.

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Up at and for the rest of his life he'll

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>be mending that bridge. And then again, even that concept

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 1>is loose because most people from even the arch rivals

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 1>or arch enemies of the sixties, they're friends. Joey has

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.720
<v Speaker 1>friends that grew up in Rolling sixties that are Rolling

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 1>sixty game members. Some of the people from the infantry

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 1>of the a Trade games and crypts have really close

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>friends that are from the Rolling Sixties, that are infantry

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>members of the Rolling Sixties. So again it's just loose job.

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 1>So there's the perception of what cripping is, and then

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>there's the real thing. The real thing is way more nuanced.

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to argue with Colors. I'm not trying

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 1>to argue with Boys in the Hood. Those are movies

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>that are indoctrinated in people around this country. But sure, Pete,

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>you have been around me enough to know, and you

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 1>see me in the room with bloods that there is

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>a nuance relationship that goes way and far beyond than

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 1>the generalness of what people saying that cripping in blood is.

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 4>On thousand percent, it seems like this is an attempt

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 4>to launder the assessment through semantical nuance.

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 6>That but you could not.

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Again, nuance matters, It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, it

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter to the general mind.

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 2>You're making it seem like the community voted for crips.

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 2>They didn't. Crips bullied their way into dictating the thought price.

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 6>That's not Communities.

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 7>Over years and some don't bother everybody the.

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Women to hold on. At some point in the history

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 2>of crips, there was ten niggas, yes, and those ten

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 2>niggas were such a small percentage of that community that

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 2>whatever they said did not dictate the lives of the

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 2>rest of the community. And the rest of the community

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 2>appreciated that shit. The niggas grew to a thousand and

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 2>start telling niggas, you can't wear this in this neighborhood.

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Start writing shit on the walls. This is our neighborhood.

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 2>And so the niggas that didn't want to deal with

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 2>that ship move they dictated by bullying a thought process

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 2>over years.

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 4>Bro as a question real quick, Yeah, like from my

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 4>understand there's Detroit has blessing cripts, now right they do know, Yeah,

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 4>you're a little bit of a older guy. Yeah, I

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 4>mean I don't mean like that, but like when you

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 4>were growing up, if you okay, So so just like, yes,

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure that there was that happening in Detroit, given

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:31.479
<v Speaker 4>the way Detroit kind of you know, it has its

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 4>own struggles. So so how would you define like that

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 4>early stage development and kind of how the environment and

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 4>everything was in Detroit versus Los Angeles where it's a

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 4>little bit more maybe brand organized or whatever else, Like

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 4>just in general speaking.

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 6>How do you define your conflicts?

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 2>It was all money, money based.

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 6>What money phased was it was it people was.

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Less, it was less. It was less street based or

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:02.480
<v Speaker 2>territory based. In the beginning, it was more who got money,

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 2>getting money? Who can I get with to get this

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 2>many birds or whatever the case. Maybe it was never

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 2>really an allegiance except for the young boys incorporated when

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 2>I was in middle school. These guys had dominated the

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean from from from the east to the west,

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 2>north to the south, and they sold heroin, and they

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:24.800
<v Speaker 2>sold a lot of it, and they had rules to

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 2>the game. And it was a lot of them that

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:30.880
<v Speaker 2>is that followed those rules, and that was our gang culture.

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't.

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Really what I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna tell

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>you The problem with that thought job and I don't

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 1>want to cut you off because Detroit shit is fire,

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 1>But that's just disingenuous. I had conflicts amongst communities all

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the time.

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 6>Now, just like real quick.

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 4>Like say after that, I'm sure there's like a bit

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.400
<v Speaker 4>of a decentralized power vacuum of sorts because I'm guessing

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 4>that they got feded out, so that kind of broke up.

0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:00.879
<v Speaker 4>So in that period of time when the chips are falling, Yeah,

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 4>so how would that have?

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 2>It just never took hold like gangs until recently, like

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:07.800
<v Speaker 2>you would.

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 6>Have What do you mean like gangs until recently?

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 5>What do you think?

0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:15.839
<v Speaker 2>Because people I know before we do that.

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 6>But what makes the click different than the gang.

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Just the numbers, the numbers and the discipline. What's like this?

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 2>What do you think I've never been to I've never

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 2>been to La, so I don't know the gang culture

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 2>from what you understand what I've seen like and I

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:33.279
<v Speaker 2>don't want to. I don't want people to think that

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 2>I think the gangs are the worst thing.

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 6>Ever, it's not wrong to think that gangs are the

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 6>worst thing.

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 2>That's there's there's some good things about gangs.

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:45.239
<v Speaker 6>We don't have to say that, say that. We've got

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:45.720
<v Speaker 6>to say.

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:49.360
<v Speaker 2>That, But I don't want people But what I noticed

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:54.320
<v Speaker 2>was the discipline and how there was a clear structure

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 2>in each neighborhood, and the neighborhoods were a lot bigger

0:35:57.640 --> 0:36:00.359
<v Speaker 2>than our neighborhoods. There was a clear struct sure who

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 2>was leading you couldn't do certain things, like from a

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 2>safety standpoint. It had its benefits as long as you

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.720
<v Speaker 2>about it by their rules, and their rules were actually

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 2>pretty necessary, so there was a benefit to that, and

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Detroit was kind of lacking that outside of the young boys.

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 2>When it starts splintering, it was just a bunch of niggas, like,

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 2>it'll be fifteen niggas here we live on school Craft,

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:29.839
<v Speaker 2>It'll be twenty niggas here, we live on six miles

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 2>or you know, it wasn't a thousand niggas.

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 6>It's not a thousand niggas.

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:41.440
<v Speaker 9>It's way more than a thousand crips. But not saying

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:43.280
<v Speaker 9>every set has a thousand niggas.

0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:45.920
<v Speaker 6>No, I'm saying, but I'm saying, let me ask you this.

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this. Though the sixties and the

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 2>h trade crips have some rules that are in common.

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:57.280
<v Speaker 9>Correct, No, none of their rules are similar.

0:36:57.680 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 2>There are no rules, so there's no rule.

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>No, Like I'm being honest with you, job like every

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 1>last person creates the standard of expectation.

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:14.360
<v Speaker 6>They're not rules. There's nothing specifically.

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, the rule that's the rule is a criminal rule, right,

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 1>anybody that breaks a crime, you can't tell. And then

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:26.399
<v Speaker 1>there's things that will create social or cultural currency within

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 1>the rankings, but there is nothing specifically that will get

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 1>you booted out of it except regular like messing with

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 1>somebody grandma would get you kicked out to set. Like

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 1>even okay, it's no rule that you got to help

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:43.359
<v Speaker 1>your homie if you getting jumped, right, if he getting jumped.

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 1>There's no rules say you got to help your friend.

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:49.880
<v Speaker 1>You know what happened, You lose cultural cachet. Certain people

0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 1>could jump on you, certain people could stop messing with you.

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 1>You lose cultural cachet. No different than it would be

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>in Detroit.

0:37:57.760 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 4>I think maybe one of the differences between Detroit and

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:05.359
<v Speaker 4>is the intergenerationality of it. Yeah, where maybe that lends

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 4>itself and I think on the positive side, and you

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:09.280
<v Speaker 4>do see this in a lot of cases more maybe

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 4>so with some of the larger like Mexican gangs or whatever.

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 4>Like when you know, when m S gets to an

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 4>area there is it does regulate down conflict, you know, yeah,

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:20.840
<v Speaker 4>to a degree. And at the same time, but also

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 4>the intergenerationality I was going to say, like might compromise

0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:31.800
<v Speaker 4>the degree to which it's voluntary ish, Yeah, I mean, listen,

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 4>gangs didn't create poverty in the community, right, and and

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 4>even like let's go back to the to a point

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:40.839
<v Speaker 4>she was making jobs about crypts, like right, yeah, there's

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 4>so many crypts and you feel like they start pushing

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 4>their will on the community.

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:49.879
<v Speaker 1>That's not true. Their families. Remember everybody's family is these

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 1>are families. These are kids, So they're not that disconnected

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>from their kids. They just start pushing they like they

0:38:57.040 --> 0:39:00.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't push they will on the community. Like nobody like

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:03.279
<v Speaker 1>like you can't break into certain houses in my neighborhood,

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Like if people lived in that community, like older black people,

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 1>there are certain places you will not mess with in

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that community because.

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 6>That could get you beat up.

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 1>It's not a rule, but that is somebody that one

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 1>of the homies love a lot of them, so certain

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 1>people you can't.

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 3>There some type of morality in in there, like some

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 3>type of inte.

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 6>Huge morality, Yeah, huge moity.

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 3>A lot of people don't see because like a lot

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 3>of people's idea of gangs came from what they see

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 3>on TV. So it's like, you know, this is what

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:38.799
<v Speaker 3>I think, but my stances is like at the end

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 3>of the day, these people are still human. Like they

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 3>don't go around walking around like, oh I'm a crip,

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:46.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm wearing blue, I got a gun, I would shoot you,

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:47.239
<v Speaker 3>I will rob you.

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:48.239
<v Speaker 5>Like that's not.

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Much different than that. So cripping is more of an

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:57.640
<v Speaker 1>adjective than a verb. Like, honestly, when people say gang banging,

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 1>gang banging is not hitting somebody up right, when you

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 1>know where you're from, that's not gag banging. That's called

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:07.359
<v Speaker 1>set tripping, right, So it's like gang banging is like

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 1>everything you do. It's how you carry yourself. It's how

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 1>you behave as a man, right, it's everything about your existence.

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 1>It requires nothing like if you start snatching old lady

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 1>pursus like one hundred and seventeenth Street, niggas is gonna

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:23.800
<v Speaker 1>beat you up because that's probably somebody on to your grandmother.

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:28.440
<v Speaker 6>It is not cool. Now, if it's a stranger, certain

0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:29.319
<v Speaker 6>homies may not.

0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:33.880
<v Speaker 1>They'll turn the blad eye because again these are poor minds, glasses, locans.

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:36.799
<v Speaker 1>Certain other homies would be pressurable. Ay, homie, don't get

0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 1>that lady back or shit. So again, the type of

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:43.319
<v Speaker 1>man you are determines the type of crip you're going

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 1>to be. It's not like cripping influences you to do

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 1>anything but stand up and be a man. And again,

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to push it. I'm telling you the truth, Josh.

0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 1>It's saying the law is not the ultimate judge of

0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:00.799
<v Speaker 1>what's right and wrong. That's the problem, right, because we

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:02.799
<v Speaker 1>do live in a society and we all agree that

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 1>these are the law. But again, I find specifically my

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:08.919
<v Speaker 1>sanctity and the thought of it by knowing that this

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:11.319
<v Speaker 1>country has never set up laws to be fair to.

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 6>People that look like me and comfort where I come from.

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 1>But there is no rule that says you have to

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 1>behave in immorlly none. If you rape girls, you will

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:27.399
<v Speaker 1>get beat up you. If you rape somebody, little sister,

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 1>people will kill you. They will murder you. If you

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 1>start killing homies unjustly, they will sanction and murder you.

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 1>You have to behave to a moral standard. That's the expectation.

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 2>It's not a rule.

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing that says, hey, you know what, if you

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:47.920
<v Speaker 1>do this, this is the this is the thing. If

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:50.359
<v Speaker 1>you snitch on somebody, you may not get killed, you

0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 1>may get beat up every time people see you, and

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:53.719
<v Speaker 1>you just stop coming around because you don't want to

0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 1>get beat up. So I'm telling you the truth. Jobs,

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>there's the reality, and then there's a exception. Now I'm

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:03.920
<v Speaker 1>not I agree with you, right. Obviously, if I was

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 1>to have a child, I would not want to raise

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:08.279
<v Speaker 1>my child in the same poverty I grew up in.

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>It's not so much the gangs, it's just a poverty, right,

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the mindset of poverty. I wouldn't even want to raise

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:17.760
<v Speaker 1>my child to be an outlaw like his father, because

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:21.439
<v Speaker 1>I understand the risk in my existence. But again, how

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 1>can a black man in this country have anything to

0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 1>say crazy about an outlaw in this country is beyond me.

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Like you know the history of how people treat right now,

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:34.439
<v Speaker 1>we're just looking at jay Z. I told everybody I said,

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 1>if you didn't, I told people, I said, look, if

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:38.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't stand up for Diddy, there's no reason me

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and Pete said it. Pize's white man from you know,

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:46.480
<v Speaker 1>family for Midaly. If you are allowing people to mistreat Diddy,

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 1>charge one person with a Racketeering Organization Act a RICO.

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 1>They're going to keep mistreating people. They know that they

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 1>can warp especially federal law can be warped into some

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 1>crazy things. It's not like Red in the state law,

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:02.800
<v Speaker 1>where it's pretty much simple. They got to prove it.

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 6>Apiracies, it's a lot of.

0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 4>The investigative crime. In federal they investigate an organization, the

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 4>investigate individuals.

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:17.319
<v Speaker 1>And federally you don't have to prove a crime the

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 1>thought of a crime to get you put in prison.

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 6>So again, so again. Jobs is like, I'm not advocating

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 6>for a game.

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 4>What's the question that we're that We're like, why do stay?

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 6>Ultimately, gang members are stupid.

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:34.759
<v Speaker 4>I don't think we've asked that, we've we've addressed that

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 4>question at all.

0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Because joining a gang is stupid.

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:45.759
<v Speaker 7>They kill people, they hurt people, they ribe people, they

0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 7>sell drug If.

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Gang members don't want their own children to be gang members,

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 2>how can that.

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:54.720
<v Speaker 6>Ever to be a gang.

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.759
<v Speaker 4>I think it's illogical. I wouldn't say it's stupid. I

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 4>would say it might be short sided, it might be undisciplined,

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:02.759
<v Speaker 4>it might be a number of things that there's some

0:44:02.840 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 4>idiots in there too. You can't have that many people

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 4>do not have morons. It's too many people.

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 6>You can a couple of people together and not have

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 6>some morons.

0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:14.400
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you, And why is my guy like

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:18.240
<v Speaker 2>and I respect him to the fluwish. But the act

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 2>at some point you were younger and you decided this

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:23.319
<v Speaker 2>is what I want to do. You knew the risk,

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:25.920
<v Speaker 2>you knew the benefits, and you made a decision.

0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 6>You know what That that that problem is you don't

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:30.600
<v Speaker 6>always know the risk though, when it's a kind of

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 6>how you've said it.

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:34.960
<v Speaker 1>That's not genuinely true for me, but that's kind of

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:37.560
<v Speaker 1>how you've said it. Don't know what happened for me

0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:40.799
<v Speaker 1>was well, no, maybe it did come across that way,

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 1>and it could be true.

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 6>Let me say it. So, it's like I found drug.

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Dealing first in the streets, okay, and the community that

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I grew up in wanted via.

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:58.760
<v Speaker 4>Looking out right huh, via being a paid lookout.

0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 1>No, No, that's how it starts selling PCP. The first

0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I started selling who was studying in high So I

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:10.360
<v Speaker 1>started selling crack in high school. So that's how I

0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 1>first got in the game. Sophomore year I started selling crack.

0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I needed money. My mom went to prison, my mom

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:17.080
<v Speaker 1>went to the fist. My dad didn't have no bunch

0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 1>of money. I mean five dollars one dollar. Bad decision,

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 1>very might I agree? Job selling drugs is a bad decision.

0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say that about game banging. I don't regret

0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:32.800
<v Speaker 1>this cripping, but I regret selling drugs.

0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 6>I no, no, because I got it. Let me.

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:35.959
<v Speaker 1>Let me give you everything PiZZ so you know, because

0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I know what you talk about, you talking about my

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:40.680
<v Speaker 1>ap chemistry class. I didn't know that matter until three

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 1>four years out there. Remember this is remember this is

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:44.200
<v Speaker 1>sophomore year.

0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I didn't know. I thought he was like even

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:47.680
<v Speaker 4>like younger than that. And it was just like, hey,

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 4>if anyone comes by a whistle or something like a

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:51.759
<v Speaker 4>hundred bucks a day, I know that.

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 1>That's how I got into the sharm trade. So I

0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:56.800
<v Speaker 1>started off selling crack as a sophomore in high school.

0:45:57.200 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Like just it's one hundred dollars, I go, do my homework,

0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:02.839
<v Speaker 1>sell that crack.

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 5>I go.

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I go to school the next day sixty to one

0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:07.840
<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty dollars. The end of the week, I

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:10.120
<v Speaker 1>probably got about four hundred dollars. I used to buy

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:14.120
<v Speaker 1>everybody a line pizza, just player right. So that's how

0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I first got in the street life.

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 7>That's why I always like paying for everybody food, man

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:18.879
<v Speaker 7>to the tea.

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:19.879
<v Speaker 6>That's just the deep boy.

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 1>In me right, So I know that's just how I

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 1>get down so again, Pete, So as I started monetizing

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 1>the community, that became the thing. It's like every first off,

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:35.960
<v Speaker 1>everybody start treating you like you from the game or

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 1>you from you go to the pink store, you're gonna

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 1>get into a fight if they tripping, if the young

0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 1>dudes are tripping with the hummies, because you over there,

0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:44.880
<v Speaker 1>you from over there. If you go to the shopping center,

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, the mona parks think you from seven. Everybody

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:49.239
<v Speaker 1>knows you're from over because you're from over there? Are

0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:50.319
<v Speaker 1>you from one hundred and seventy ten?

0:46:50.800 --> 0:46:53.400
<v Speaker 4>And I'm sure and I'll kind of ask this on

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 4>behalf of jobs, but you had to source locally, so

0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:59.240
<v Speaker 4>to speak. You couldn't bring it outside products.

0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:02.320
<v Speaker 1>No, no, you definitely can't bring no work in the community.

0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:04.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's why I respect Trump doing what he's

0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to do. Like, brother, you cannot be bringing that

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:09.320
<v Speaker 1>word from China over here taking advantage of the community

0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 1>paying minimum taxes. Yeah, we're gonna have to add some

0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:15.640
<v Speaker 1>tariff on that. And and you know the homies didn't

0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:17.600
<v Speaker 1>have a tear iff program. It was like, no, you

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:20.080
<v Speaker 1>get your dope from us. We keep all this money.

0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Black people could take a lot from crippet. You keep

0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:27.879
<v Speaker 1>all that money in the community. Yeah, you if you're

0:47:27.880 --> 0:47:29.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna if you're gonna get you a half hounce. Yeah,

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 1>you buy from us. That keeps the money revolving in

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:36.759
<v Speaker 1>the community. Right, simple as that. So it started like

0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:41.719
<v Speaker 1>that for me jobs, Right, that's great. It's krudo jobs, right.

0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:43.960
<v Speaker 1>The brick come in and nines come to.

0:47:44.000 --> 0:47:48.239
<v Speaker 2>That and spend it outside the community. You let the

0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:51.120
<v Speaker 2>Mexicans pick up your six, fix up your car. You

0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:54.520
<v Speaker 2>buy fancy clothes from the Italians and the Europeans, and

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 2>you got black food from restaurants in your community.

0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:00.440
<v Speaker 7>That's why I said it's a lot we can learn from.

0:48:00.640 --> 0:48:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Job, because who's hold on job. That's not true.

0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:07.440
<v Speaker 1>We didn't go to fancy restaurant's job and we didn't

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 1>buy those type of clothes.

0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:11.799
<v Speaker 6>Remember I came up in there with Carl kna.

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:15.479
<v Speaker 4>If you clowns spent the money locally, I could still

0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:17.919
<v Speaker 4>go to Jordan's cafe when I touched down, but I

0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:18.960
<v Speaker 4>can't because you.

0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:20.400
<v Speaker 6>That's not what happened.

0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 1>They didn't go out of business because of economics, demographics,

0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 1>job too, And I was gonna use that on jobs too.

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:30.120
<v Speaker 6>Job when I grew up, all my homiees.

0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I have about three or four homies that had millions

0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:33.560
<v Speaker 1>of dollars selling drugs.

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:34.360
<v Speaker 6>All that money.

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:38.680
<v Speaker 1>We went to the black establishments. We went to Jordan's,

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:42.320
<v Speaker 1>we went to Golden Birds, we went to black places.

0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:45.240
<v Speaker 1>We did not dress and fancy eu. That's Detroit.

0:48:45.360 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 6>We didn't dress and fish.

0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:50.239
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't alive at this time, but didn't somebody have

0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 3>in our family own the store or something like that.

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying we only patronized black businesses. We will

0:48:58.680 --> 0:49:01.200
<v Speaker 1>go every now and remember this is back jobs.

0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:01.560
<v Speaker 6>We didn't.

0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:04.360
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a ton of Mexican people live in the community.

0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:06.760
<v Speaker 1>So that's still patronized in the community, right.

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's not it is. That's a job. You can

0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:10.480
<v Speaker 2>understand that.

0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:13.160
<v Speaker 6>You from Detroit and y'all just don't have nobody else.

0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:14.360
<v Speaker 2>I think it's too friendly.

0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:16.880
<v Speaker 5>No, No, that's not how it is out here.

0:49:16.880 --> 0:49:19.200
<v Speaker 3>Because even my mom, as a teacher, people say the

0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 3>same thing, and it's like, well, I'm patronizing who's in

0:49:21.520 --> 0:49:22.239
<v Speaker 3>my community.

0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Not no, you patronize who's in your blood line. First.

0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:30.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but they're also in our community job.

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Not only that job, but that's a whole other college.

0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:37.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, hold up jobs. It's not like you would think. So, okay,

0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:41.320
<v Speaker 1>there's two types of LA's. There's the la that I

0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:43.120
<v Speaker 1>grew up at my mom house. My mom was out

0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:44.919
<v Speaker 1>of prison right in Compton for she for the fares

0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:47.799
<v Speaker 1>take her house where the seven Oles will shoot you.

0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 6>But you do have mesking friends.

0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Francisco and all my mesking friends that

0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I grew up with in Compton. But the seven Oles

0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:55.680
<v Speaker 1>is like, we're gonna kill you. Like that's the in

0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:59.160
<v Speaker 1>eighty nine to ninety right, so I'm ten years old.

0:50:00.160 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I saw them hit up something on the wall. Bkck

0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:07.200
<v Speaker 1>nigga killer. It's first time I ever saw some shit

0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:09.520
<v Speaker 1>like that. That was the Mexican gang in the community

0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:11.520
<v Speaker 1>to com to Vidio seven O's and I knew black

0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:13.880
<v Speaker 1>people from there. There was a guy named Poppy from there.

0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:16.920
<v Speaker 1>It was crazy Chucky from a Cajus brother. So again

0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:19.200
<v Speaker 1>this is a really weird concept. Shout out to my

0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:21.759
<v Speaker 1>uncle g Ray who told me that the cass was

0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:23.520
<v Speaker 1>wrong and they was taking advantage of them, and the

0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Mexicans finally stood up for theirself. But obviously they used

0:50:27.040 --> 0:50:29.320
<v Speaker 1>the implication of race to help them make their point.

0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:32.279
<v Speaker 1>And that's here we are. But then there's the other

0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:35.200
<v Speaker 1>la like one hundred and seventeenth Street.

0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:36.160
<v Speaker 5>Our next.

0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Exactly where like Grave Street, one one seven and one

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:44.799
<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventeen Street are the same gangs, right or

0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:46.640
<v Speaker 1>like Grave Street and watch video Grape if you go

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:48.360
<v Speaker 1>look at a lot of older Gray streets, they have

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:51.880
<v Speaker 1>WVG because they were the same gang as the Mexicans

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:54.880
<v Speaker 1>to the point where their families and they're actually mixed

0:50:54.960 --> 0:51:00.279
<v Speaker 1>into families Jos. So it's a little nuanced to it that. So, yes,

0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:02.000
<v Speaker 1>we didn't buy Italian clothes.

0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:02.520
<v Speaker 6>We didn't.

0:51:02.640 --> 0:51:06.759
<v Speaker 1>We didn't buy European cut clothes. We didn't buy we

0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:08.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't go to fancy restaurants.

0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:10.480
<v Speaker 6>We stayed. The money stayed in our community.

0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:11.520
<v Speaker 10>You know.

0:51:11.640 --> 0:51:14.960
<v Speaker 3>In this conversation, what I'm learning is that West Coast

0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:17.800
<v Speaker 3>like idea of gang banging and in the East Coast

0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:21.080
<v Speaker 3>Midwest is very different, which is why people kind of

0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:24.280
<v Speaker 3>they try to merge it. But it's like a different

0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:26.319
<v Speaker 3>way of doing things.

0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Different try to make it seem like it's all.

0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:33.239
<v Speaker 5>No, no, it's not. Nobody's saying that, but.

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:36.880
<v Speaker 4>The opposite.

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:48.919
<v Speaker 2>Glances yourself listening to Luther, this nigga makes it sound

0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:55.680
<v Speaker 2>so beautiful that.

0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:56.120
<v Speaker 3>But you even said yourself that a lot of the

0:51:56.160 --> 0:51:59.840
<v Speaker 3>things in Detroit were about money and versus how it

0:51:59.880 --> 0:52:01.799
<v Speaker 3>is set up over here. That's what I'm saying, Like

0:52:01.880 --> 0:52:06.480
<v Speaker 3>it's just a different it's a different setup, and that's.

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:08.479
<v Speaker 1>Not how it's set up over here. What he's saying

0:52:08.520 --> 0:52:10.359
<v Speaker 1>is not you. We don't fight because you just live

0:52:10.440 --> 0:52:13.400
<v Speaker 1>over here. We fight because somebody got into an issue

0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:19.600
<v Speaker 1>over something could be money. He was two different communities, group,

0:52:19.719 --> 0:52:22.080
<v Speaker 1>two different I'll put it in the trade language because

0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:24.799
<v Speaker 1>it's just the same. Two different groups of friends were

0:52:24.840 --> 0:52:29.000
<v Speaker 1>at one location. Somewhere along the line. An issue happened,

0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:33.160
<v Speaker 1>right well, somebody cut them in line. Somebody grabbed his girl,

0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:36.880
<v Speaker 1>but somebody sold somebody some bad dope to take advantage

0:52:36.880 --> 0:52:37.200
<v Speaker 1>of them.

0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:41.080
<v Speaker 6>Something happened. Remember the seasons in their trades and start fighting.

0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Because these guys are that would be west of Western

0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:46.479
<v Speaker 1>and these guys are.

0:52:47.360 --> 0:52:52.240
<v Speaker 2>Got shot and y'all been fighting for four years.

0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:54.319
<v Speaker 6>But let me explain it. Let me explain it.

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:56.840
<v Speaker 1>See it's fair to say one nigga got shot that

0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:58.920
<v Speaker 1>just sounds so like that's normal.

0:52:58.960 --> 0:52:59.920
<v Speaker 6>One nigga got killed.

0:53:00.520 --> 0:53:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Mind you, this is somebody's little brother, somebody's son, right,

0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:07.840
<v Speaker 1>So they got into a fight. Shout out to the

0:53:07.880 --> 0:53:09.879
<v Speaker 1>citsus and they trades. The two guys.

0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:13.719
<v Speaker 6>Fight, and they got into a fight, a fistfight to

0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:18.719
<v Speaker 6>settle a dispute, right, that normal thing. Hey, you know what,

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:22.040
<v Speaker 6>we need to clash the titans. Let's squabble it out.

0:53:22.520 --> 0:53:25.080
<v Speaker 6>Who wins. That's that's who. Right. They squabble.

0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:28.960
<v Speaker 1>A guy who wasn't quite from either community but was

0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:30.960
<v Speaker 1>actually representing one of the communities.

0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:32.440
<v Speaker 6>The A trade community.

0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Overreacts, pulls out a gun and kills the little guy

0:53:36.360 --> 0:53:40.959
<v Speaker 1>that grew up in the sixties, this sixteen year old kid. Right,

0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:45.080
<v Speaker 1>everybody get loose because you know, this is nineteen seventy nine.

0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:48.320
<v Speaker 6>People ain't really shooting like this. This is not normal.

0:53:48.480 --> 0:53:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Let alone, somebody just die kill him. So later on

0:53:53.640 --> 0:53:55.719
<v Speaker 1>that day they have a meeting at the park to

0:53:55.840 --> 0:54:00.680
<v Speaker 1>get the person who perpetrated this gross act. Because this

0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:04.160
<v Speaker 1>guy did not grow up culturally in that community, right,

0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:07.319
<v Speaker 1>The A trades don't quite know how to get with

0:54:07.400 --> 0:54:10.040
<v Speaker 1>the guy or where the guy is at.

0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:13.000
<v Speaker 6>Tempers wore up.

0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:15.239
<v Speaker 1>This is somebody's little brother, this is somebody's kid, this

0:54:15.360 --> 0:54:20.480
<v Speaker 1>is somebody's best friend. Of fighting sules, helicopters, come to police. Come,

0:54:21.280 --> 0:54:26.160
<v Speaker 1>everybody's leaving. Everybody leave, Nobody will go to jail. Everybody's

0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:29.440
<v Speaker 1>drinking to deal with the loss of a sixteen year

0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:33.400
<v Speaker 1>old kid. When they come over to try to notch it,

0:54:33.719 --> 0:54:39.520
<v Speaker 1>conversations went bad. Somebody got shot. So if you think

0:54:39.560 --> 0:54:42.399
<v Speaker 1>the solution again by that same standard, right, if it's

0:54:42.440 --> 0:54:44.960
<v Speaker 1>just one person all in this gang, right, let's say

0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:48.320
<v Speaker 1>sixties and the A trades at that point, the sixties,

0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:51.320
<v Speaker 1>the rolling sixty crypts are let's say they're two hundred strong.

0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's say they trades are two hundred strong. One guy

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:57.760
<v Speaker 1>got killed, and it created this whole thing where thousands

0:54:57.760 --> 0:55:00.000
<v Speaker 1>where each game grew to thousands, and then they still

0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:02.440
<v Speaker 1>got this conflict because people keep dying. Well, by that

0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:06.040
<v Speaker 1>same standard, jobs, then why did America, where there's three

0:55:06.120 --> 0:55:10.560
<v Speaker 1>hundred plus million people when the Tally band bombed the

0:55:10.600 --> 0:55:12.960
<v Speaker 1>World Trade Center, why they just wipe off a couple

0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:14.520
<v Speaker 1>people that weren't number but like one hundred and some

0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:16.440
<v Speaker 1>people that died. That ain't that many people. It's stillions

0:55:16.680 --> 0:55:21.319
<v Speaker 1>as minions. It's three hundred million people here. No, No,

0:55:23.160 --> 0:55:26.280
<v Speaker 1>what is it about human nature that that demands justice

0:55:27.160 --> 0:55:30.200
<v Speaker 1>or vengeance? Like that's the that's a fair thing. So

0:55:30.239 --> 0:55:32.399
<v Speaker 1>it's no different than what happens in Detroit. You think

0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:34.560
<v Speaker 1>these same things will happen to Detroit just because you

0:55:34.560 --> 0:55:36.439
<v Speaker 1>don't have crip and blood at the end of your name.

0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:40.160
<v Speaker 1>These are things common in poor neighborhoods and around the world.

0:55:40.480 --> 0:55:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Right now, more people in the war between Ukraine and

0:55:44.320 --> 0:55:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Russia has died.

0:55:45.160 --> 0:55:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Than all.

0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:52.720
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know what they fighting over land. Univers

0:55:53.160 --> 0:55:54.359
<v Speaker 1>are trying to do your own thing.

0:55:55.160 --> 0:55:56.799
<v Speaker 6>There's a problem we trip it.

0:55:56.960 --> 0:56:01.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't give a fuck about This is happening in Africa.

0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:02.000
<v Speaker 2>They don't look like me.

0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:03.720
<v Speaker 6>This is happening in Africa.

0:56:04.480 --> 0:56:11.319
<v Speaker 11>Yah, niggas who is look brou I'm not going to

0:56:11.440 --> 0:56:15.120
<v Speaker 11>allow people to justify doing dumb shit to our community

0:56:15.200 --> 0:56:18.080
<v Speaker 11>because some other niggas do dumb shit to their community.

0:56:18.160 --> 0:56:20.360
<v Speaker 6>It has nothing to do with community. Job that happens

0:56:20.400 --> 0:56:20.840
<v Speaker 6>in Detroit.

0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:22.839
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't make it right.

0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:25.359
<v Speaker 6>Why do people keep doing it?

0:56:26.040 --> 0:56:29.520
<v Speaker 2>And in Detroit, I don't know any niggas who had

0:56:29.600 --> 0:56:34.600
<v Speaker 2>beef When I was sixteen that whose grandkids are still

0:56:34.640 --> 0:56:38.160
<v Speaker 2>beefing with each other over that beef. Of course you do.

0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:42.480
<v Speaker 2>Niggas passed on a curse. It's not passing it on.

0:56:42.880 --> 0:56:46.399
<v Speaker 1>People keep hurting people because this is somebody's family. How

0:56:46.520 --> 0:56:49.640
<v Speaker 1>is that not passing it on because you keep what

0:56:49.719 --> 0:56:50.760
<v Speaker 1>are your jobs?

0:56:51.000 --> 0:56:54.400
<v Speaker 6>Okay? Have you ever been in a situation hold up,

0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:55.479
<v Speaker 6>because this is a great point.

0:56:55.600 --> 0:56:57.440
<v Speaker 1>He makes a great point. Have you ever been in

0:56:57.480 --> 0:57:00.200
<v Speaker 1>a situation where your crew of guys right?

0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:03.520
<v Speaker 6>Because well, not that. Oh well, you're close enough. You

0:57:03.560 --> 0:57:04.960
<v Speaker 6>and the mid eight been no.

0:57:07.440 --> 0:57:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Be shot at you from thekids to goas grandy.

0:57:15.640 --> 0:57:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you said that because you're from the mid

0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:19.880
<v Speaker 1>eighties and it was crazy to trade in the mid eighties.

0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:22.160
<v Speaker 6>It was people was getting shot and killed.

0:57:22.480 --> 0:57:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Yes, So you're saying none of your friends got shot

0:57:26.160 --> 0:57:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and killed.

0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:27.200
<v Speaker 6>That happened.

0:57:27.520 --> 0:57:27.840
<v Speaker 2>M hm.

0:57:28.520 --> 0:57:31.040
<v Speaker 1>So you're saying, whenever your friends got shot and killed,

0:57:31.080 --> 0:57:34.120
<v Speaker 1>y'all had a meeting to amicably resolve the situation.

0:57:35.600 --> 0:57:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Nona, We just didn't kill these niggas grandkids. No, I say,

0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, did you stop niggas involved? It didn't involve them?

0:57:43.920 --> 0:57:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Niggas lineage.

0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:48.240
<v Speaker 6>Hold on I'm asking you a question. No, there was

0:57:48.240 --> 0:57:50.320
<v Speaker 6>no meeting, so didn't know.

0:57:50.640 --> 0:57:53.320
<v Speaker 1>You guys went back and your friends went back and

0:57:53.800 --> 0:57:54.480
<v Speaker 1>made it even.

0:57:56.400 --> 0:57:59.240
<v Speaker 2>It depended on the city. Some niggas got themselves shot

0:57:59.360 --> 0:58:00.640
<v Speaker 2>and it stopped right there.

0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:02.320
<v Speaker 6>That never shot.

0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:04.560
<v Speaker 9>Because you deserve to get shot in the streets.

0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, you sell the nigga.

0:58:08.120 --> 0:58:09.560
<v Speaker 9>Some bad work and you get shot.

0:58:09.720 --> 0:58:10.320
<v Speaker 2>We're not wrong.

0:58:11.080 --> 0:58:13.160
<v Speaker 6>You give him to us and we deal with our problem.

0:58:13.920 --> 0:58:16.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm just telling you. You asked me about Detroit.

0:58:16.560 --> 0:58:19.640
<v Speaker 1>So so, so you're saying Detroit doesn't have any feud.

0:58:21.560 --> 0:58:24.680
<v Speaker 1>So so you're saying the same organizations don't just change

0:58:24.800 --> 0:58:26.600
<v Speaker 1>names and feuds continue.

0:58:27.040 --> 0:58:29.520
<v Speaker 2>To my knowledge, and I could be wrong because I

0:58:29.560 --> 0:58:30.800
<v Speaker 2>don't know every hood in Detroit.

0:58:31.160 --> 0:58:32.880
<v Speaker 6>You know you're wrong. Just so you know you're wrong.

0:58:33.760 --> 0:58:39.000
<v Speaker 2>There are not niggas grandkids still beefing over ship their

0:58:39.000 --> 0:58:40.840
<v Speaker 2>grandfathers did nobody.

0:58:41.040 --> 0:58:42.240
<v Speaker 6>But this is what I'm telling you.

0:58:42.280 --> 0:58:44.920
<v Speaker 1>The cities and they trades are not beefing because of

0:58:44.960 --> 0:58:52.560
<v Speaker 1>what happened to Tyrone, to Rick's brother. They're not beefing

0:58:52.560 --> 0:58:54.880
<v Speaker 1>of what happened to Rick. They don't even know Rick.

0:58:55.480 --> 0:58:58.200
<v Speaker 1>They don't even know Tyrone. They don't know the man.

0:58:58.040 --> 0:59:01.040
<v Speaker 6>That passed away. That's that's generation of guys.

0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:04.000
<v Speaker 1>They start clashing over what happened to their friend and

0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:05.440
<v Speaker 1>their friends brother.

0:59:06.640 --> 0:59:07.880
<v Speaker 4>Positive feedback loop.

0:59:08.000 --> 0:59:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Just just like just like American Russian, we don't I

0:59:11.080 --> 0:59:13.480
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't know why nobody mad at Russia. Nothing that's happened

0:59:13.520 --> 0:59:16.040
<v Speaker 1>in my life as an American man that I should

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:18.320
<v Speaker 1>be mad at Russia. All I know is I'm supposed

0:59:18.360 --> 0:59:19.920
<v Speaker 1>to not trust Russia.

0:59:20.280 --> 0:59:22.280
<v Speaker 7>That's what I'm I just heard.

0:59:23.800 --> 0:59:28.000
<v Speaker 1>When they don't fuck with Americans song and if you

0:59:28.040 --> 0:59:30.000
<v Speaker 1>if you get out of line, where do you hear

0:59:30.040 --> 0:59:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that from Americans?

0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:36.720
<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying is as a crypt, a young crypt,

0:59:37.040 --> 0:59:39.040
<v Speaker 2>somebody has to teach you who the ops are.

0:59:39.920 --> 0:59:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Nobody teaching? You know what teacher I brought. When you

0:59:42.120 --> 0:59:44.440
<v Speaker 1>go someone you back from Seventh Street and they shoot.

0:59:44.120 --> 0:59:47.600
<v Speaker 2>At you, so nobody teach. Nobody told you up front,

0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh we beefing with these niggas.

0:59:49.320 --> 0:59:54.200
<v Speaker 8>You know, you just you just go outside people you

0:59:54.280 --> 0:59:58.000
<v Speaker 8>live around, you go to school and they be like them.

0:59:58.080 --> 1:00:05.600
<v Speaker 3>Niggas come on just guns and rags and say I'm

1:00:05.600 --> 1:00:07.840
<v Speaker 3>a crip, I'm a blood.

1:00:08.800 --> 1:00:13.240
<v Speaker 9>I'm saying, you're fully aware, which neighborhoods.

1:00:13.520 --> 1:00:16.520
<v Speaker 2>You're you're at the time that you joined the organization,

1:00:16.840 --> 1:00:20.520
<v Speaker 2>you are fully aware which neighborhoods you should avoid.

1:00:20.360 --> 1:00:24.000
<v Speaker 9>Because we got a problem.

1:00:24.080 --> 1:00:26.480
<v Speaker 6>Okay, so that okay, So okay, I got the problem.

1:00:26.560 --> 1:00:27.400
<v Speaker 6>I got the issue.

1:00:27.960 --> 1:00:30.120
<v Speaker 1>So in mega gangs like on the West Side, like

1:00:30.160 --> 1:00:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the Seasons and they trades, that's standard.

1:00:32.440 --> 1:00:34.680
<v Speaker 6>But in most gangs that's not normal.

1:00:35.720 --> 1:00:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Like my okay, perfect example, my community one hundred and

1:00:39.520 --> 1:00:44.200
<v Speaker 1>seventeen street Watch. Growing up, my generation had an issue

1:00:44.200 --> 1:00:47.440
<v Speaker 1>with the Carver parks, right, and then so you shoot

1:00:47.440 --> 1:00:50.200
<v Speaker 1>it out, you fight it out, called your conflict dot

1:00:51.160 --> 1:00:56.240
<v Speaker 1>watchboy mom son named moon Son plus nephew. That generation

1:00:56.680 --> 1:01:03.480
<v Speaker 1>are tight with the car parks. The generation undermines now

1:01:03.920 --> 1:01:05.880
<v Speaker 1>they have an issue with them on the parks. My

1:01:06.040 --> 1:01:09.720
<v Speaker 1>generation was tight with them on the parks. My older

1:01:09.760 --> 1:01:13.840
<v Speaker 1>homies had an issue with the Promenoakes. My generation we

1:01:14.120 --> 1:01:18.080
<v Speaker 1>like the Pomenoakes. The conflicts don't go the way you

1:01:18.120 --> 1:01:21.560
<v Speaker 1>think they go. They usually are resolved, Like my generation,

1:01:21.760 --> 1:01:24.760
<v Speaker 1>like my homies and the pj's right, the Imperial Course Cripts,

1:01:24.800 --> 1:01:27.720
<v Speaker 1>they had a problem. Guess what that problem got resolved?

1:01:27.800 --> 1:01:30.240
<v Speaker 1>A couple shootings, couple fights, maybe some people got shot,

1:01:30.280 --> 1:01:33.479
<v Speaker 1>maybe some people died, but they resolve them. You're talking

1:01:33.520 --> 1:01:36.200
<v Speaker 1>about the sixes and they trades. That's not a standard thing.

1:01:36.920 --> 1:01:40.040
<v Speaker 1>That's why that thing is so all talked about, right,

1:01:40.080 --> 1:01:43.240
<v Speaker 1>It's because it's such an ongoing thing. But that's also

1:01:43.280 --> 1:01:46.640
<v Speaker 1>because there's I mean that might be thousands of each

1:01:46.640 --> 1:01:47.280
<v Speaker 1>of them.

1:01:47.320 --> 1:01:49.480
<v Speaker 6>Like these gangs are big as cities.

1:01:50.040 --> 1:01:51.760
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, everybody don't even know each other.

1:01:52.040 --> 1:02:00.560
<v Speaker 4>They're so geographically large. There's not unavoidable interaction constant. You

1:02:00.600 --> 1:02:04.200
<v Speaker 4>can be pretty insular from one to the other. And

1:02:04.240 --> 1:02:05.560
<v Speaker 4>I think that's a contribute factor.

1:02:05.720 --> 1:02:08.640
<v Speaker 1>And every year somebody who sinses they trade, don't die

1:02:08.640 --> 1:02:13.120
<v Speaker 1>in the war jobs. Sometimes it's not nothing, and then

1:02:13.200 --> 1:02:14.480
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it heats up.

1:02:16.080 --> 1:02:17.840
<v Speaker 5>It's like with.

1:02:17.920 --> 1:02:20.920
<v Speaker 3>Everything that we're saying, why can't you talk about politics

1:02:21.000 --> 1:02:23.680
<v Speaker 3>or why can't Kendrick have an album called good Kid

1:02:23.720 --> 1:02:26.120
<v Speaker 3>Mass City and people think that he's a you know,

1:02:26.400 --> 1:02:26.800
<v Speaker 3>like the.

1:02:27.840 --> 1:02:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Nuanced because the nuance has never expressed because people don't

1:02:31.120 --> 1:02:32.840
<v Speaker 1>have time for the nuance, which is why.

1:02:32.680 --> 1:02:36.160
<v Speaker 8>Y'all nuanced don't matter on the mainstream level. Like they

1:02:36.280 --> 1:02:39.800
<v Speaker 8>just get they taking his face value, how they created

1:02:39.840 --> 1:02:42.800
<v Speaker 8>the movies, and that's what cryption. Bloods is to the

1:02:42.840 --> 1:02:46.400
<v Speaker 8>mainstream world period. You dying over colors. It's stupid. Go

1:02:46.520 --> 1:02:50.800
<v Speaker 8>get a job, y'all dumbest broke forward, and that's just

1:02:50.840 --> 1:02:53.040
<v Speaker 8>how it's gonna get looked at on the main scale.

1:02:53.440 --> 1:02:57.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, but most of our our interaction outside you know, us,

1:02:57.720 --> 1:03:03.600
<v Speaker 2>non West Coasters or non gang communities. Our interaction isn't Hollywood.

1:03:03.640 --> 1:03:07.840
<v Speaker 2>It's y'all niggas. Job you have learned about taking from MCA.

1:03:09.240 --> 1:03:10.080
<v Speaker 7>That's the same thing.

1:03:10.160 --> 1:03:12.600
<v Speaker 1>That's still a level of entertainment where it's all heightened

1:03:12.640 --> 1:03:14.440
<v Speaker 1>and conditions society.

1:03:14.800 --> 1:03:16.240
<v Speaker 2>That's y'all niggas deciding to.

1:03:16.520 --> 1:03:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Give Oh no, no, no, no, no, no no, we

1:03:20.560 --> 1:03:22.320
<v Speaker 1>give you the highlights like ESPN.

1:03:22.680 --> 1:03:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh, whatever the case is, y'all telling it.

1:03:24.720 --> 1:03:25.080
<v Speaker 6>We both.

1:03:25.120 --> 1:03:27.240
<v Speaker 1>But you can't get mad at ESPN because they show

1:03:27.320 --> 1:03:29.080
<v Speaker 1>slam dunks and then you go watch the game and

1:03:29.080 --> 1:03:30.920
<v Speaker 1>it might be only four of them in forty eight.

1:03:30.760 --> 1:03:33.360
<v Speaker 7>Minutes and they lost whoever dunts.

1:03:33.760 --> 1:03:36.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm just you can't be mad at us for believing,

1:03:36.920 --> 1:03:38.680
<v Speaker 2>y'all niggas. I'm not upset.

1:03:38.880 --> 1:03:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I told you no, I totally understand y'all ignorance.

1:03:42.040 --> 1:03:43.680
<v Speaker 6>I get it. I'm not upset at it at all.

1:03:43.720 --> 1:03:44.720
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, y'all just don't know.

1:03:44.800 --> 1:03:47.520
<v Speaker 1>So that's why I'm telling you, like, that's not common,

1:03:47.840 --> 1:03:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Like it's not common for beasts to go generationally. That's

1:03:51.560 --> 1:03:53.280
<v Speaker 1>not most gangs in Los Angeles.

1:03:53.360 --> 1:04:00.479
<v Speaker 6>That's these really huge, matter of fact yangs that that's

1:04:00.520 --> 1:04:03.120
<v Speaker 6>happening with more gangs at LA. That's not standard.

1:04:04.400 --> 1:04:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and even in those big gangs jobs, it's

1:04:07.360 --> 1:04:09.880
<v Speaker 1>not a concernt. Remember if the seasions and they trades

1:04:09.920 --> 1:04:13.480
<v Speaker 1>were consistently warring, they are across the street from each other,

1:04:14.000 --> 1:04:18.200
<v Speaker 1>it would be dead bodies every day. Man, You go

1:04:18.560 --> 1:04:21.440
<v Speaker 1>months and months and months and months and months, sometimes

1:04:21.440 --> 1:04:24.640
<v Speaker 1>a year, and nobody dies in that conflict. But then

1:04:24.680 --> 1:04:27.040
<v Speaker 1>guess what, in twenty twenty six, it might get heat

1:04:27.120 --> 1:04:29.560
<v Speaker 1>up and then all the memories of the past come

1:04:29.640 --> 1:04:32.800
<v Speaker 1>up and four people might die because in that war.

1:04:33.520 --> 1:04:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Twenty people might get shot in that war. But remember

1:04:36.200 --> 1:04:40.200
<v Speaker 1>there's so many communities around, right, the families is just

1:04:40.240 --> 1:04:42.400
<v Speaker 1>as bad at it with them, right, And then there's

1:04:42.440 --> 1:04:45.560
<v Speaker 1>different things that happen along the line of just existing

1:04:45.600 --> 1:04:48.560
<v Speaker 1>in this poor dimension of LA where you just have conflict.

1:04:49.120 --> 1:04:51.360
<v Speaker 1>Like you hear the stories between the cixies and hoovers.

1:04:51.400 --> 1:04:54.320
<v Speaker 1>They're not even close to each other. They can't kill

1:04:54.400 --> 1:04:55.760
<v Speaker 1>each other or if they would have to make a

1:04:55.760 --> 1:04:57.680
<v Speaker 1>trip and risk going to prison. All the time, they

1:04:57.800 --> 1:05:00.240
<v Speaker 1>not gone that far. But guess what they they may

1:05:00.280 --> 1:05:02.480
<v Speaker 1>bump into each other at the slassus swap meat and

1:05:02.520 --> 1:05:05.600
<v Speaker 1>it may go too far. So again, it's no different

1:05:05.640 --> 1:05:08.720
<v Speaker 1>than Detroit. It's just marketing. And what's not even marketing,

1:05:08.800 --> 1:05:11.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's branded. But the marketing you don't know the

1:05:11.960 --> 1:05:13.840
<v Speaker 1>story of it. You just know the brand of it.

1:05:14.120 --> 1:05:17.120
<v Speaker 1>They just say red versus blue. Into some degree, That's

1:05:17.120 --> 1:05:21.760
<v Speaker 1>how it was in nineteen seventy three for however long

1:05:21.840 --> 1:05:25.560
<v Speaker 1>that lasted. But within the first six years after that

1:05:26.080 --> 1:05:31.120
<v Speaker 1>it has been community against community, just like in Detroit. Remember,

1:05:31.200 --> 1:05:33.880
<v Speaker 1>crips were just a rogue thing. They weren't a community.

1:05:33.920 --> 1:05:36.400
<v Speaker 1>They were just guys from all over the city, young

1:05:36.440 --> 1:05:40.360
<v Speaker 1>guys who got rejected from another community. Which really, probably

1:05:40.360 --> 1:05:42.680
<v Speaker 1>this wouldn't be a problem if those older guys would

1:05:42.680 --> 1:05:45.840
<v Speaker 1>have took those younger guys under their wing. Right, shout

1:05:45.840 --> 1:05:47.960
<v Speaker 1>out to Craig Munson and all of the guys from

1:05:47.960 --> 1:05:51.200
<v Speaker 1>the Avenues who inspired the crypt movement, you know as

1:05:51.200 --> 1:05:53.720
<v Speaker 1>well as the Panthers, but that those guys wanted to

1:05:53.760 --> 1:05:57.520
<v Speaker 1>be you know, baby avenues where they would have had

1:05:57.560 --> 1:06:00.920
<v Speaker 1>guidance from an elder, a mature adult, but because he

1:06:00.920 --> 1:06:03.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to. In no disrespect to Craig, I'm not

1:06:03.320 --> 1:06:05.640
<v Speaker 1>this and you og if you hear this, I'm saying

1:06:05.760 --> 1:06:07.920
<v Speaker 1>if he would have took on the responsibility of a

1:06:07.960 --> 1:06:11.200
<v Speaker 1>fifteen sixty year old Raymond, Raymond Washington.

1:06:11.000 --> 1:06:12.439
<v Speaker 6>Or Tookie, guess what.

1:06:12.560 --> 1:06:15.160
<v Speaker 1>You have guidance, But when you let your damn kids

1:06:15.240 --> 1:06:18.800
<v Speaker 1>run wild jobs, you get kids ship.

1:06:21.400 --> 1:06:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Behavior. I gotta go, man, my man, John, this is

1:06:24.880 --> 1:06:25.560
<v Speaker 2>peak old man.

1:06:26.280 --> 1:06:28.680
<v Speaker 6>Hey, go ahead, Josh, thank you for being here. Make it.

1:06:28.680 --> 1:06:30.080
<v Speaker 6>Make sure y'all take him out. Were gonna keep this

1:06:30.080 --> 1:06:30.760
<v Speaker 6>going a little bit.

1:06:30.680 --> 1:06:37.640
<v Speaker 9>Longer, Jope asked, question, y'all always in privage.

1:06:39.320 --> 1:06:43.880
<v Speaker 6>Jobs? To make sure your stuff is uploaded? Hold on jobs,

1:06:43.920 --> 1:06:49.960
<v Speaker 6>my man, bro, he's so brilliant, so brilliant.

1:06:51.840 --> 1:06:59.520
<v Speaker 5>Okay, job, Well you're back to my original topic.

1:07:00.080 --> 1:07:02.440
<v Speaker 3>I guess I don't know if it's because we just

1:07:02.560 --> 1:07:04.560
<v Speaker 3>grew up how we grew up. You know, how the

1:07:05.600 --> 1:07:08.080
<v Speaker 3>woman all your sisters are versus your brother, How you

1:07:08.120 --> 1:07:10.320
<v Speaker 3>and your brothers grew up so I don't know if

1:07:10.320 --> 1:07:14.080
<v Speaker 3>it's that that is what it is. But like I said,

1:07:14.240 --> 1:07:16.680
<v Speaker 3>like Uncle Robert is an obstrometrist, you know what I'm saying.

1:07:16.800 --> 1:07:19.520
<v Speaker 3>Like you didn't grow up saying I want to be

1:07:19.560 --> 1:07:21.560
<v Speaker 3>a cripple when I get older. I'm pretty sure you

1:07:21.640 --> 1:07:24.720
<v Speaker 3>had different goals and ideas of what you wanted to do.

1:07:24.840 --> 1:07:27.520
<v Speaker 6>Your mom, your mom my sister. I was supposed to

1:07:27.520 --> 1:07:29.600
<v Speaker 6>be a pharmacist.

1:07:29.080 --> 1:07:29.960
<v Speaker 5>Right I was.

1:07:30.240 --> 1:07:33.919
<v Speaker 1>I had the grades, I had ap courses. Shit, Your mother,

1:07:34.560 --> 1:07:37.400
<v Speaker 1>your auntie, rest her soul. They used to be furious

1:07:37.440 --> 1:07:40.880
<v Speaker 1>that I decided to start selling dope and messing up,

1:07:40.920 --> 1:07:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, So.

1:07:43.520 --> 1:07:46.120
<v Speaker 6>You don't decide to be me. And Pluck was.

1:07:46.120 --> 1:07:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Talking about this the other day, shout out to plug

1:07:47.800 --> 1:07:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Plug is my ogi homie that really you know, make

1:07:50.480 --> 1:07:52.160
<v Speaker 1>sure I was gonna be alright, as well as a

1:07:52.160 --> 1:07:53.040
<v Speaker 1>couple other other.

1:07:52.920 --> 1:07:54.680
<v Speaker 6>Homies, but older hommies.

1:07:54.720 --> 1:07:58.360
<v Speaker 1>But we were talking and I was like, I say, if

1:07:58.360 --> 1:08:01.240
<v Speaker 1>you really think about it, worn't cripping something that you become.

1:08:01.320 --> 1:08:05.040
<v Speaker 6>It's just it's just you. You gotta be it.

1:08:05.040 --> 1:08:07.280
<v Speaker 1>It's not something you really if you think about it,

1:08:07.320 --> 1:08:09.200
<v Speaker 1>you really shouldn't be able to get put on even

1:08:09.240 --> 1:08:12.080
<v Speaker 1>to put on. It's more about a test of your

1:08:12.080 --> 1:08:14.800
<v Speaker 1>willingness to stand up when the pressure is on you.

1:08:15.280 --> 1:08:16.639
<v Speaker 2>It's not truly it's.

1:08:16.520 --> 1:08:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Being misused now because again it is a lot of younger.

1:08:19.720 --> 1:08:24.160
<v Speaker 8>People make responsibility and you know, but we're differently a

1:08:24.240 --> 1:08:28.440
<v Speaker 8>time now where people don't sure where they're stranger responsibility

1:08:29.200 --> 1:08:30.000
<v Speaker 8>enough strangers.

1:08:30.360 --> 1:08:32.920
<v Speaker 1>They people don't know each other, like my friends, even

1:08:32.960 --> 1:08:38.479
<v Speaker 1>when they even even when Ron Ron and and and

1:08:38.800 --> 1:08:43.360
<v Speaker 1>and and uh, even when little j Moto res Moto

1:08:43.479 --> 1:08:46.720
<v Speaker 1>soul free, little Jay and ron Ron right when they

1:08:46.920 --> 1:08:48.960
<v Speaker 1>put me on, it was done with love. It wasn't

1:08:49.080 --> 1:08:51.080
<v Speaker 1>just like I want to hurt this person put in

1:08:51.120 --> 1:08:53.000
<v Speaker 1>the hospital. It was just to get you to stand

1:08:53.120 --> 1:08:56.160
<v Speaker 1>up and fight. So that's really what it is, you know.

1:08:56.200 --> 1:08:58.439
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it's supposed to be a test of your

1:08:59.000 --> 1:08:59.599
<v Speaker 6>your your.

1:08:59.520 --> 1:09:02.200
<v Speaker 5>Forty two sayn and sorority.

1:09:02.320 --> 1:09:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Though in everything it.

1:09:04.080 --> 1:09:08.080
<v Speaker 10>Was crazy and you don't see, I don't know. You

1:09:08.120 --> 1:09:10.760
<v Speaker 10>don't hear a lot about this shit either, like you're

1:09:10.800 --> 1:09:14.040
<v Speaker 10>about to you hear about it unless you go look

1:09:14.160 --> 1:09:14.360
<v Speaker 10>for it.

1:09:14.479 --> 1:09:17.360
<v Speaker 4>Though, like it's not like no, it's covered a lot

1:09:18.520 --> 1:09:21.360
<v Speaker 4>like how you and all that, like you know, but

1:09:21.520 --> 1:09:24.120
<v Speaker 4>like media news covers it, and you gotta think about it,

1:09:24.200 --> 1:09:28.960
<v Speaker 4>like it's been so heavily civilly litigated over the last

1:09:29.000 --> 1:09:31.679
<v Speaker 4>twenty years that like you got to think back twenty

1:09:32.400 --> 1:09:36.280
<v Speaker 4>twenty five, thirty years ago, because it's largely gone. Like now,

1:09:36.320 --> 1:09:40.120
<v Speaker 4>it's like something happens and it's it'll make seeing it. Yeah, okay,

1:09:40.120 --> 1:09:41.920
<v Speaker 4>because it's largely because of the rarity.

1:09:42.920 --> 1:09:45.360
<v Speaker 8>Okay, Yeah, that's what I'm saying, because I'm I'm a

1:09:45.400 --> 1:09:47.000
<v Speaker 8>little bit aware and I'll be hearing.

1:09:46.800 --> 1:09:48.639
<v Speaker 7>Ship, but I'd be like, damn, I only be saying

1:09:48.680 --> 1:09:51.120
<v Speaker 7>I wanted to research it and find out how crazy

1:09:51.200 --> 1:09:55.080
<v Speaker 7>it is. They don't get enough flat with the ship

1:09:55.160 --> 1:09:56.640
<v Speaker 7>they be doing. They don't get the flat that.

1:09:57.560 --> 1:09:59.800
<v Speaker 3>I think if you go into a fraternity, if you

1:10:00.080 --> 1:10:02.960
<v Speaker 3>have to be a firefighter, a police officer, a shif,

1:10:03.320 --> 1:10:07.040
<v Speaker 3>it's all a process for all of those days or

1:10:07.160 --> 1:10:08.720
<v Speaker 3>clicks or whatever you want to call it.

1:10:09.200 --> 1:10:12.479
<v Speaker 1>And rightfully so, and rightfully so, a society should frown

1:10:12.600 --> 1:10:16.800
<v Speaker 1>on an outlaw organization because this.

1:10:16.920 --> 1:10:19.120
<v Speaker 5>Is outlaw organization.

1:10:19.720 --> 1:10:21.759
<v Speaker 1>Some of them, some of them are like the Vikings

1:10:21.800 --> 1:10:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and different things that was in those things, and it

1:10:24.120 --> 1:10:27.720
<v Speaker 1>really had the same type of you know, it was

1:10:27.840 --> 1:10:33.559
<v Speaker 1>they not not the not the Vikings, not the police. Gangs,

1:10:33.560 --> 1:10:36.880
<v Speaker 1>but the regular police they're there with. They operate within

1:10:37.240 --> 1:10:42.599
<v Speaker 1>society standards. Gangs operate outside of society standards, society or rules.

1:10:42.720 --> 1:10:46.680
<v Speaker 1>So I get the outrage of society. But again to

1:10:46.800 --> 1:10:52.080
<v Speaker 1>answer your question, I think it's because they're immature. The

1:10:52.400 --> 1:10:55.160
<v Speaker 1>thought is immature, the thought is ignorant. They don't have

1:10:55.479 --> 1:10:59.000
<v Speaker 1>enough information. Even Pete to me, somebody who's been around

1:10:59.080 --> 1:11:01.200
<v Speaker 1>gang members for years. He knows me and Malcolm right,

1:11:01.280 --> 1:11:04.360
<v Speaker 1>and he still got his perception of it. He's been

1:11:04.439 --> 1:11:06.479
<v Speaker 1>around way more gang members, and he know other gang

1:11:06.560 --> 1:11:09.479
<v Speaker 1>members from all over Arizona. He knows from street guys

1:11:09.520 --> 1:11:11.920
<v Speaker 1>in the Bay, and he knows some of us are

1:11:12.000 --> 1:11:14.479
<v Speaker 1>smart and some of us are just crazy. You know,

1:11:14.680 --> 1:11:19.559
<v Speaker 1>he not crazy, but the natural perception is well, one

1:11:19.640 --> 1:11:23.120
<v Speaker 1>thing is because there's no standard, right, like there is

1:11:23.240 --> 1:11:26.320
<v Speaker 1>no aptitude test to get to be from the seven.

1:11:27.040 --> 1:11:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I almost wanted to try to implement it. I think

1:11:29.240 --> 1:11:30.679
<v Speaker 1>you should really have to be a lot of shit

1:11:30.760 --> 1:11:33.560
<v Speaker 1>to be it, because you really become the representation of

1:11:33.600 --> 1:11:35.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. And you know, I mean, you

1:11:35.120 --> 1:11:36.880
<v Speaker 1>start to carry lies in your hand, you go do

1:11:36.960 --> 1:11:40.479
<v Speaker 1>something stupid. It could cost me my life. Yes, that fast,

1:11:40.600 --> 1:11:43.320
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So I definitely don't. I

1:11:43.439 --> 1:11:47.639
<v Speaker 1>definitely don't think the gangs take it serious. The idea

1:11:47.760 --> 1:11:49.800
<v Speaker 1>of it, like you know who we're going to allow

1:11:49.880 --> 1:11:53.160
<v Speaker 1>to represent us. I do agree with that, but again

1:11:53.280 --> 1:11:59.880
<v Speaker 1>it is immaturely and emotionally ran. I mean, there's not

1:12:00.160 --> 1:12:03.800
<v Speaker 1>necessarily like Pluck. Shout out to Pluck. I always congratulated

1:12:03.880 --> 1:12:05.599
<v Speaker 1>him on the type of man he was right because

1:12:05.640 --> 1:12:08.240
<v Speaker 1>he never when it was his time for to be accountable,

1:12:08.439 --> 1:12:11.200
<v Speaker 1>whether he had a kid, he raised his kid, you know,

1:12:11.280 --> 1:12:13.120
<v Speaker 1>whether it was time to go to jail, he went

1:12:13.160 --> 1:12:15.320
<v Speaker 1>and sat down. Even when they him to get him,

1:12:15.320 --> 1:12:17.479
<v Speaker 1>they didn't even play fair to get him when it

1:12:17.560 --> 1:12:19.840
<v Speaker 1>was time to be a problem. I always applaud him

1:12:19.920 --> 1:12:22.080
<v Speaker 1>for the type of man he is, Like, it's not

1:12:22.240 --> 1:12:24.559
<v Speaker 1>about no do I think he tough.

1:12:24.960 --> 1:12:26.080
<v Speaker 6>I think he's a man.

1:12:27.120 --> 1:12:30.200
<v Speaker 4>I think it's impossible to have good leadership in that

1:12:30.400 --> 1:12:35.000
<v Speaker 4>format thing though, because yeah, leadership comes with age and experience,

1:12:35.040 --> 1:12:39.000
<v Speaker 4>and three things happened. You get locked up, you pass away,

1:12:39.080 --> 1:12:42.400
<v Speaker 4>or you move away. That's that's the majority.

1:12:44.800 --> 1:12:45.200
<v Speaker 5>Well you.

1:12:47.080 --> 1:12:48.200
<v Speaker 4>Actively on there.

1:12:49.479 --> 1:12:50.080
<v Speaker 6>I'm not mad.

1:12:50.720 --> 1:12:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not mad at that though, I'm not mad at

1:12:53.200 --> 1:12:55.200
<v Speaker 1>that being a critique of it, because.

1:12:55.400 --> 1:12:57.240
<v Speaker 4>I'm not even saying it's a critique. I'm just saying

1:12:58.080 --> 1:12:59.960
<v Speaker 4>logically impossible to avoid.

1:13:00.479 --> 1:13:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, Okay, so like remember, like Pluck is fifteen years

1:13:04.000 --> 1:13:07.200
<v Speaker 1>older than me. Yeah, so even when I'm coming up

1:13:07.240 --> 1:13:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like this little like we was talking about today,

1:13:09.240 --> 1:13:11.840
<v Speaker 1>he watched me grow up, like since the little kid.

1:13:12.439 --> 1:13:14.360
<v Speaker 1>It was never like, g come be from this. He

1:13:14.479 --> 1:13:17.559
<v Speaker 1>didn't never say nothing like that till I started selling dope.

1:13:17.600 --> 1:13:19.560
<v Speaker 1>He's like, oh, you out here thugging, you need to

1:13:19.600 --> 1:13:22.719
<v Speaker 1>be from the hood. It was never like a thought

1:13:23.120 --> 1:13:25.080
<v Speaker 1>you need to get insurance.

1:13:25.040 --> 1:13:27.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you need to You need to game is. Let

1:13:27.680 --> 1:13:29.200
<v Speaker 6>me teach you how to do this so you don't

1:13:29.200 --> 1:13:29.840
<v Speaker 6>get your head.

1:13:29.880 --> 1:13:31.880
<v Speaker 8>Because if you're doing that and you over here now

1:13:31.920 --> 1:13:34.599
<v Speaker 8>you're becoming a live Yeah, you need to learn how

1:13:34.640 --> 1:13:36.879
<v Speaker 8>to be responsible with the ship you're doing.

1:13:37.240 --> 1:13:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Be a man.

1:13:38.400 --> 1:13:40.519
<v Speaker 8>Being on the hood is a part of that, because nigga,

1:13:40.520 --> 1:13:43.719
<v Speaker 8>if you ain't from the hood, we either gonna nigga,

1:13:43.760 --> 1:13:44.479
<v Speaker 8>you ain't gonna be able.

1:13:44.400 --> 1:13:46.200
<v Speaker 7>To be doing all this and you're gonna do it anyway,

1:13:46.240 --> 1:13:47.519
<v Speaker 7>and that's gonna become a problem.

1:13:47.760 --> 1:13:47.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:13:48.560 --> 1:13:50.519
<v Speaker 6>So there's there isn't.

1:13:50.640 --> 1:13:52.320
<v Speaker 7>I might say crazy to some people.

1:13:53.120 --> 1:13:56.920
<v Speaker 4>It's an insurance policy that multi layer.

1:13:57.680 --> 1:14:00.280
<v Speaker 1>So and like to John's point, I don't want to

1:14:00.320 --> 1:14:03.360
<v Speaker 1>say I don't want to talk positive about gangs. That's

1:14:03.400 --> 1:14:04.920
<v Speaker 1>not what I'm I'm not here to do that. I

1:14:05.920 --> 1:14:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the experience is not negative the way you would imagine. Now,

1:14:10.800 --> 1:14:14.120
<v Speaker 1>it's not about is it positive. It's not like people

1:14:14.160 --> 1:14:17.200
<v Speaker 1>will say it, go snatch this purse like no lie,

1:14:17.320 --> 1:14:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Like there's this thing where people feel like, yes, there

1:14:19.800 --> 1:14:23.639
<v Speaker 1>are some grown up men who misuse humans, but has

1:14:23.720 --> 1:14:24.960
<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with gang banging.

1:14:25.040 --> 1:14:27.360
<v Speaker 6>That just becomes the vessel. They would do that if

1:14:27.400 --> 1:14:29.479
<v Speaker 6>they were in the military, they would do that, if

1:14:29.479 --> 1:14:31.519
<v Speaker 6>they worked at Pizza Hut. You know what I'm saying.

1:14:31.600 --> 1:14:33.200
<v Speaker 6>It's it's just some.

1:14:33.640 --> 1:14:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Irresponsible people that have access to it, like any other

1:14:37.439 --> 1:14:40.639
<v Speaker 1>facet of the life. But honestly, the first time Pete

1:14:41.240 --> 1:14:43.439
<v Speaker 1>like I was finna go shoot at somebody, I want

1:14:43.479 --> 1:14:45.519
<v Speaker 1>to pluck to get a gun that nigga told me,

1:14:45.800 --> 1:14:47.519
<v Speaker 1>and you better go buy you you better go steal

1:14:47.560 --> 1:14:51.760
<v Speaker 1>your own gun like I stole my first one. Now,

1:14:51.920 --> 1:14:54.280
<v Speaker 1>some people could take that emotionally. I didn't feel no

1:14:54.360 --> 1:14:56.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of way, I was like, that's fucked up. But

1:14:56.240 --> 1:14:59.120
<v Speaker 1>you know what I got from it, Nigga, I don't

1:14:59.160 --> 1:15:01.320
<v Speaker 1>know what type of criminal you're gonna be, and I'm

1:15:01.400 --> 1:15:03.720
<v Speaker 1>not trusting your criminals. So you need to go get

1:15:03.800 --> 1:15:05.560
<v Speaker 1>your own ship to do your own ship. If I

1:15:05.640 --> 1:15:07.840
<v Speaker 1>had you, if I recommended you to do some shit,

1:15:07.880 --> 1:15:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I would provide it. But until then, how you even

1:15:10.160 --> 1:15:11.800
<v Speaker 1>the more I think about how you out here doing

1:15:11.840 --> 1:15:14.040
<v Speaker 1>this and you don't have a gun and you're making money.

1:15:16.560 --> 1:15:19.439
<v Speaker 6>The lesson. But again, some people emotionally could take that

1:15:19.720 --> 1:15:20.439
<v Speaker 6>out of wrong.

1:15:20.800 --> 1:15:23.240
<v Speaker 8>I ain't even want to get me his gun, nigga. Like, nigga,

1:15:23.280 --> 1:15:27.920
<v Speaker 8>I don't even know what you about to do something

1:15:27.960 --> 1:15:30.600
<v Speaker 8>now all of a sudden, I did niggas bring you

1:15:30.680 --> 1:15:31.320
<v Speaker 8>a gun back?

1:15:33.680 --> 1:15:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Exactly, like bro?

1:15:35.000 --> 1:15:39.600
<v Speaker 3>What So again, I want to add that it's not

1:15:39.800 --> 1:15:42.599
<v Speaker 3>that I like think that gangs are good or whatever.

1:15:42.800 --> 1:15:45.280
<v Speaker 5>I guess my idea of what I think a gang

1:15:45.600 --> 1:15:47.480
<v Speaker 5>is is very different.

1:15:47.680 --> 1:15:51.200
<v Speaker 3>Because I understand that, Yeah, you got the what people

1:15:51.320 --> 1:15:54.719
<v Speaker 3>sensationalize what gangs are, but you can literally consider everything

1:15:54.760 --> 1:15:56.479
<v Speaker 3>a gang and everybody.

1:15:56.160 --> 1:16:01.000
<v Speaker 5>Has their moral standing ground on different side, you know

1:16:01.040 --> 1:16:01.400
<v Speaker 5>what I mean?

1:16:03.760 --> 1:16:06.080
<v Speaker 3>The gangs that people keep talking about where the people

1:16:06.080 --> 1:16:10.040
<v Speaker 3>who like protected the neighborhood, so I can't like always

1:16:10.120 --> 1:16:12.320
<v Speaker 3>lean to you guys are big, scary people who care

1:16:12.400 --> 1:16:14.680
<v Speaker 3>on guns and wear colored flags like that's not.

1:16:15.439 --> 1:16:19.400
<v Speaker 8>How yeah much a lot more cooler gang members and

1:16:19.520 --> 1:16:21.440
<v Speaker 8>gang bangers than I didn't.

1:16:22.200 --> 1:16:24.560
<v Speaker 7>Right, right, niggas funny.

1:16:25.400 --> 1:16:30.320
<v Speaker 3>Gang members, athletes are extremely intellectual, extremely.

1:16:31.680 --> 1:16:36.280
<v Speaker 8>Funny comedian comedians Like it's you know, irregular people. But

1:16:36.360 --> 1:16:42.679
<v Speaker 8>they're just a part of this other sometimes so nigga

1:16:42.800 --> 1:16:44.960
<v Speaker 8>is deal with it in a certain way.

1:16:47.640 --> 1:16:50.559
<v Speaker 1>So again, it's simply put, it's a bunch of people

1:16:50.720 --> 1:16:54.160
<v Speaker 1>that do not let the law stand in the way

1:16:54.240 --> 1:16:58.280
<v Speaker 1>of how they exist. That's why society is supposed to

1:16:58.360 --> 1:17:02.759
<v Speaker 1>frown on it. But again you got to give creators

1:17:02.800 --> 1:17:09.320
<v Speaker 1>that probably everybody involved is not stupid or ignorant. Like

1:17:09.439 --> 1:17:12.479
<v Speaker 1>it's not a choice because I didn't know. It's a

1:17:12.600 --> 1:17:15.720
<v Speaker 1>choice because I chose. So even with joh said it's

1:17:15.720 --> 1:17:17.840
<v Speaker 1>a bad choice, I do not feel like that.

1:17:18.160 --> 1:17:19.880
<v Speaker 6>I do not want to know what type of man

1:17:19.920 --> 1:17:22.040
<v Speaker 6>I would be without without cripping.

1:17:24.560 --> 1:17:27.120
<v Speaker 8>Though, And it's like he can have that thought and

1:17:27.200 --> 1:17:29.880
<v Speaker 8>it can It's okay, I understand why you feel that way.

1:17:30.040 --> 1:17:33.280
<v Speaker 8>Me but as my as me as being one of these,

1:17:33.680 --> 1:17:37.000
<v Speaker 8>let me explain to you that it's not always like that.

1:17:37.200 --> 1:17:39.880
<v Speaker 8>And I'm speaking from experience, and I know other niggas

1:17:39.920 --> 1:17:42.599
<v Speaker 8>with that can relate to my experience as well. Let

1:17:42.680 --> 1:17:45.080
<v Speaker 8>me just let you know, bro, like it ain't all

1:17:45.360 --> 1:17:47.479
<v Speaker 8>you know what I'm saying, But like you say, the

1:17:47.600 --> 1:17:52.120
<v Speaker 8>highlight reel is is the rags the shooting niggase don

1:17:55.120 --> 1:17:59.200
<v Speaker 8>saying if you're drinking that poison, nigga, But while he

1:17:59.280 --> 1:18:01.679
<v Speaker 8>had Nigga be sipping the martini talking about you drinking

1:18:01.720 --> 1:18:03.080
<v Speaker 8>poison like that.

1:18:03.080 --> 1:18:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Should be so again, it's like I didn't. I didn't

1:18:07.280 --> 1:18:08.920
<v Speaker 1>think of it as a bad diest. I don't think

1:18:08.960 --> 1:18:11.040
<v Speaker 1>it's a bad decision. I wouldn't trade the only thing

1:18:11.040 --> 1:18:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I would trade in Peter selling dope. That's the only

1:18:14.320 --> 1:18:16.920
<v Speaker 1>thing I wish I never sold, though that that's something

1:18:16.960 --> 1:18:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I regret. I don't regret this cripping at all, Like

1:18:19.479 --> 1:18:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't. It's great for me. It's it worked.

1:18:22.200 --> 1:18:22.880
<v Speaker 6>I needed it.

1:18:23.439 --> 1:18:25.439
<v Speaker 1>I needed to know how to exist in this world

1:18:25.520 --> 1:18:28.160
<v Speaker 1>by myself, knowing that everybody is not gonna be fair,

1:18:28.479 --> 1:18:31.000
<v Speaker 1>knowing everybody's not gonna obey the law, not just other

1:18:31.080 --> 1:18:33.559
<v Speaker 1>gang members people in general, and.

1:18:33.640 --> 1:18:35.519
<v Speaker 7>You know what like and what Boy was saying.

1:18:35.600 --> 1:18:37.240
<v Speaker 8>If it was really that bad and they were just

1:18:37.479 --> 1:18:39.640
<v Speaker 8>making rules and pushing niggas to do it, then I

1:18:39.640 --> 1:18:41.520
<v Speaker 8>wouldn't have been able to avoid.

1:18:41.240 --> 1:18:45.479
<v Speaker 7>Being cad and on and you're still do homie like, yeah, Like.

1:18:45.800 --> 1:18:50.280
<v Speaker 12>I remember niggas that g niggas in the hood understood

1:18:50.360 --> 1:18:52.519
<v Speaker 12>certain niggas that they just knew was gonna be them

1:18:52.600 --> 1:18:55.600
<v Speaker 12>niggas and they understood like, nah, you need to be

1:18:55.880 --> 1:18:59.519
<v Speaker 12>like bro, you yeah, like it was clear that I

1:18:59.560 --> 1:19:02.320
<v Speaker 12>didn't want to be fully responsible for everything that.

1:19:02.479 --> 1:19:09.280
<v Speaker 8>Come with being caught and on. I know it's a

1:19:09.360 --> 1:19:13.800
<v Speaker 8>little these the homies, they they they yearning to be

1:19:14.040 --> 1:19:15.080
<v Speaker 8>like they.

1:19:15.040 --> 1:19:16.000
<v Speaker 7>Want to be touger.

1:19:16.120 --> 1:19:17.679
<v Speaker 6>They became soldiers.

1:19:20.080 --> 1:19:22.400
<v Speaker 7>Ain't that a lot to do with my mom and pop?

1:19:22.640 --> 1:19:22.800
<v Speaker 11>I was?

1:19:23.600 --> 1:19:24.479
<v Speaker 7>I was scared of my mama.

1:19:25.240 --> 1:19:27.960
<v Speaker 3>I guess I just see it as y'all kind of

1:19:28.000 --> 1:19:30.759
<v Speaker 3>protected the streets, not kind of, but protected the streets.

1:19:31.240 --> 1:19:33.720
<v Speaker 3>And that's what I looked at like as a gang

1:19:33.800 --> 1:19:35.759
<v Speaker 3>as like just like the streets.

1:19:36.400 --> 1:19:38.000
<v Speaker 6>It depends on the man.

1:19:38.280 --> 1:19:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Like again, gangs in power, whatever man you are, so

1:19:43.680 --> 1:19:46.280
<v Speaker 1>if you are crappy nigga gangs are going to empower

1:19:46.360 --> 1:19:50.120
<v Speaker 1>your crappiness, Like if you you are like me, Like

1:19:50.240 --> 1:19:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I was always a moral person, So gangs just made

1:19:53.200 --> 1:19:56.360
<v Speaker 1>my morals strong and then I can apply them on everybody,

1:19:56.520 --> 1:19:59.120
<v Speaker 1>like my homies will tell you, like everybody want to

1:19:59.160 --> 1:20:01.599
<v Speaker 1>be tough, But there was a time I would impose

1:20:01.680 --> 1:20:04.200
<v Speaker 1>my will on everybody, you know what I mean, especially

1:20:04.240 --> 1:20:07.759
<v Speaker 1>if they was doing something that was immorally sound. Now again,

1:20:07.840 --> 1:20:09.920
<v Speaker 1>this is also coming from an immature mind that didn't

1:20:09.960 --> 1:20:12.280
<v Speaker 1>understand selling drugs. Like again, that would be the thing

1:20:12.320 --> 1:20:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I would trade in, like the way jobs feel about

1:20:15.200 --> 1:20:17.240
<v Speaker 1>gang members or were peace, and I feel like that's

1:20:17.280 --> 1:20:18.720
<v Speaker 1>what I feel about being a drug dealer.

1:20:19.400 --> 1:20:19.719
<v Speaker 6>Gangs.

1:20:19.760 --> 1:20:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like nothing because everybody subscribes like this

1:20:23.120 --> 1:20:26.960
<v Speaker 1>is something gang like. Drug dealing is different, right because

1:20:27.040 --> 1:20:29.360
<v Speaker 1>drug dealing you don't quite know. I don't understand addiction

1:20:29.400 --> 1:20:33.280
<v Speaker 1>because I'm not addicted to alcohol or or drugs what

1:20:33.280 --> 1:20:34.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, per se, So.

1:20:34.640 --> 1:20:35.320
<v Speaker 6>I don't understand.

1:20:35.320 --> 1:20:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't understand addiction as a kid, So it's like, oh,

1:20:37.680 --> 1:20:39.840
<v Speaker 1>everybody's making a choice, so I'm selling it to them.

1:20:39.880 --> 1:20:43.680
<v Speaker 1>When I realized that people were you know what, I

1:20:43.760 --> 1:20:46.040
<v Speaker 1>mean like addicted and they couldn't control themselves.

1:20:46.160 --> 1:20:47.960
<v Speaker 6>That's when I had to change my life.

1:20:48.400 --> 1:20:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Gangs Like if I met somebody like Joey and he

1:20:50.760 --> 1:20:51.960
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, I'm not from may Track, I grew

1:20:52.040 --> 1:20:54.920
<v Speaker 1>up over there. I wouldn't ask any extra questions if

1:20:54.960 --> 1:20:59.080
<v Speaker 1>you whether you turning it down, whether you denying, you know,

1:20:59.200 --> 1:21:02.040
<v Speaker 1>the point was carry out, whether you denying your affiliation

1:21:02.320 --> 1:21:03.160
<v Speaker 1>or you really just not.

1:21:03.640 --> 1:21:08.720
<v Speaker 8>And then you got some niggas you know, I don't care,

1:21:09.000 --> 1:21:12.320
<v Speaker 8>I want a problem, and then you know you deal

1:21:12.360 --> 1:21:14.760
<v Speaker 8>with that. How you deal with that as become a

1:21:14.880 --> 1:21:15.479
<v Speaker 8>man issue.

1:21:15.960 --> 1:21:16.680
<v Speaker 6>And that's the thing.

1:21:16.800 --> 1:21:20.120
<v Speaker 1>It just magnifies whoever you are. That's all crippen does.

1:21:20.680 --> 1:21:24.519
<v Speaker 1>It can't change you like you either in it or not. Yes,

1:21:24.680 --> 1:21:27.719
<v Speaker 1>if your friend get killed, some people are gonna cry

1:21:27.840 --> 1:21:29.400
<v Speaker 1>and that's gonna be the day that they've done with it.

1:21:29.520 --> 1:21:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Some people it's gonna turn them up and they're gonna

1:21:31.280 --> 1:21:33.400
<v Speaker 1>go ride for their friend. You're gonna figure out who

1:21:33.520 --> 1:21:37.080
<v Speaker 1>you are and which is going to provide the most.

1:21:38.760 --> 1:21:42.200
<v Speaker 1>So poverty creates the most traumatic experiences right that that

1:21:42.320 --> 1:21:45.160
<v Speaker 1>we know about. Equally is that fair traumatic like poverty

1:21:45.200 --> 1:21:51.400
<v Speaker 1>creates these traumatic situations and then gangs empower you to

1:21:51.600 --> 1:21:54.760
<v Speaker 1>deal with it. So right, so before gangs, it was

1:21:54.800 --> 1:21:56.760
<v Speaker 1>people that was dealing with it. I mean, there'd be

1:21:56.840 --> 1:21:59.800
<v Speaker 1>one dude you be playing war, you know, slipping into

1:21:59.800 --> 1:22:02.040
<v Speaker 1>the parkness. He finna go shoot this dude that you

1:22:02.240 --> 1:22:04.840
<v Speaker 1>wronged his friend. Gangs kind of give you.

1:22:06.320 --> 1:22:07.400
<v Speaker 6>The okay.

1:22:07.800 --> 1:22:12.360
<v Speaker 1>So there's one issue I have with it. It's like

1:22:12.479 --> 1:22:15.960
<v Speaker 1>being a police. It empowers people that probably don't deserve power.

1:22:18.320 --> 1:22:18.800
<v Speaker 6>You know what I mean.

1:22:19.320 --> 1:22:21.439
<v Speaker 4>Force is a lever and it's a lever of force.

1:22:21.760 --> 1:22:26.759
<v Speaker 6>So so it's like, yes, it's not perfect.

1:22:26.920 --> 1:22:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and I wouldn't advocate for people to be

1:22:29.520 --> 1:22:33.519
<v Speaker 1>down because to me, you can't be down. Like even

1:22:33.560 --> 1:22:35.160
<v Speaker 1>if right now, if I said I advocate for you

1:22:35.280 --> 1:22:37.800
<v Speaker 1>to be from a gang, if you already grew up

1:22:37.800 --> 1:22:40.880
<v Speaker 1>in that community, you from there anyway, But if.

1:22:40.800 --> 1:22:42.560
<v Speaker 6>You don't live there, why the hell would you be

1:22:42.640 --> 1:22:45.000
<v Speaker 6>from that community? Go over there and get jumped on.

1:22:45.360 --> 1:22:48.479
<v Speaker 8>You even know these people not only do we have Hollywood,

1:22:48.560 --> 1:22:50.880
<v Speaker 8>but now you've got a lot of people who are

1:22:51.200 --> 1:22:57.360
<v Speaker 8>on just social media just misrepresenting and telling lies about

1:22:57.400 --> 1:23:00.760
<v Speaker 8>how the shit go, just completely lying and really just

1:23:01.160 --> 1:23:03.800
<v Speaker 8>and really like really come from over there or whatever.

1:23:03.960 --> 1:23:07.559
<v Speaker 8>But just like they feeding you know, the people who

1:23:07.640 --> 1:23:09.960
<v Speaker 8>look at it as yeah, you know, they feeding the

1:23:10.040 --> 1:23:10.840
<v Speaker 8>main stream.

1:23:12.280 --> 1:23:13.200
<v Speaker 6>Thirty six niggas.

1:23:14.760 --> 1:23:17.120
<v Speaker 7>Only niggas that ever gave me a problem was a nigga.

1:23:17.280 --> 1:23:19.280
<v Speaker 7>Ain't no white person ever being shipped to me like

1:23:19.400 --> 1:23:22.680
<v Speaker 7>you know the words. Yeah, so it's like.

1:23:24.200 --> 1:23:27.400
<v Speaker 8>You got them, dudes. That's like the king of the coach,

1:23:27.520 --> 1:23:30.200
<v Speaker 8>you know what I'm saying. So so it ain't no

1:23:30.360 --> 1:23:30.800
<v Speaker 8>changing it.

1:23:31.320 --> 1:23:34.240
<v Speaker 7>It ain't no you know, people gonna come to this

1:23:34.439 --> 1:23:37.360
<v Speaker 7>and had a conversation and some people gonna just die

1:23:37.400 --> 1:23:37.600
<v Speaker 7>on the.

1:23:39.160 --> 1:23:42.960
<v Speaker 3>Like I see it as like okay and be controversial,

1:23:43.160 --> 1:23:46.760
<v Speaker 3>but just sticking of of today's terms. It's like if

1:23:46.800 --> 1:23:49.040
<v Speaker 3>you have a woman who has a past of being

1:23:49.320 --> 1:23:53.439
<v Speaker 3>a whole or a prostitutor or whatever, people will more

1:23:53.640 --> 1:23:55.960
<v Speaker 3>likely champion that and be like she can change, she

1:23:56.000 --> 1:23:59.280
<v Speaker 3>can be more than just the whole she Kim Kardashian

1:23:59.280 --> 1:24:01.960
<v Speaker 3>for instance, Like she's not just that, she's this is

1:24:02.080 --> 1:24:04.800
<v Speaker 3>any other Like she can go to law school, she

1:24:04.880 --> 1:24:09.200
<v Speaker 3>can They champion that, you know what I mean, I

1:24:09.240 --> 1:24:09.960
<v Speaker 3>don't really think.

1:24:09.800 --> 1:24:12.680
<v Speaker 5>That like most some people do.

1:24:13.240 --> 1:24:17.680
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, people do, but that girl can't do.

1:24:18.400 --> 1:24:20.320
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people, everybody equally.

1:24:22.360 --> 1:24:24.559
<v Speaker 3>No, but they still be like, say what you said

1:24:24.600 --> 1:24:28.679
<v Speaker 3>about her, but she's still a businesswoman, you know that's.

1:24:28.600 --> 1:24:30.559
<v Speaker 7>Not but that's not that part.

1:24:34.960 --> 1:24:37.040
<v Speaker 6>She got some money, yeah, but she's still a hope.

1:24:40.360 --> 1:24:41.800
<v Speaker 5>Because it's like you got that side.

1:24:41.920 --> 1:24:45.240
<v Speaker 3>But then it's like like our conversation with you or

1:24:45.320 --> 1:24:49.160
<v Speaker 3>like a Kindrick or whoever else, you know, it's like, oh,

1:24:49.880 --> 1:24:50.599
<v Speaker 3>you can't talk.

1:24:50.439 --> 1:24:52.559
<v Speaker 5>About that because you're not You're a game and you're stupid,

1:24:53.520 --> 1:24:54.280
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean.

1:24:54.600 --> 1:24:58.400
<v Speaker 6>This whole you're freeing people right.

1:25:00.120 --> 1:25:00.320
<v Speaker 5>With you.

1:25:01.439 --> 1:25:04.760
<v Speaker 4>You can't do that in a different kind. They're gonna

1:25:04.760 --> 1:25:08.879
<v Speaker 4>say the same thing. If a whole has a negative

1:25:09.000 --> 1:25:11.559
<v Speaker 4>thing to say about somebody because they cheated on their

1:25:11.640 --> 1:25:13.280
<v Speaker 4>husband or whatever the fuck that that's gonna be the

1:25:13.320 --> 1:25:18.160
<v Speaker 4>first thing you can't say that, I believe it or not.

1:25:18.400 --> 1:25:21.479
<v Speaker 3>There is going to be like a large group of

1:25:21.560 --> 1:25:24.599
<v Speaker 3>people and be like, oh, well she changed, so oh

1:25:24.720 --> 1:25:25.800
<v Speaker 3>that's just experience.

1:25:26.240 --> 1:25:32.760
<v Speaker 6>You never in my life heard nobody say can't i'm.

1:25:33.120 --> 1:25:33.240
<v Speaker 4>Her?

1:25:33.800 --> 1:25:36.680
<v Speaker 7>And then they feal been in my DM defending her

1:25:36.720 --> 1:25:39.519
<v Speaker 7>and all that. But people do I think she was

1:25:39.560 --> 1:25:40.320
<v Speaker 7>a whole too though?

1:25:40.720 --> 1:25:45.759
<v Speaker 8>Hose dude, Yeah, because it's just like the hip hop conversation,

1:25:45.960 --> 1:25:48.559
<v Speaker 8>right when you start, when you start like holding up

1:25:48.600 --> 1:25:51.760
<v Speaker 8>the mirror, some niggas start realizing like, well that means

1:25:51.800 --> 1:25:53.639
<v Speaker 8>I'm not hip hop and they not trying to deal

1:25:53.720 --> 1:25:55.920
<v Speaker 8>with that. So when you start holding that mirror up

1:25:55.920 --> 1:25:58.640
<v Speaker 8>to them, they like, wait, so why that's being a

1:25:58.720 --> 1:26:03.040
<v Speaker 8>whole because she already letting you know, like damn yeah.

1:26:03.120 --> 1:26:05.320
<v Speaker 4>People don't want to be criticized. They're going to try

1:26:05.360 --> 1:26:06.320
<v Speaker 4>to do that and.

1:26:08.880 --> 1:26:10.479
<v Speaker 7>You're not even about to be able to be on.

1:26:11.400 --> 1:26:13.960
<v Speaker 3>But it's I'm just saying, it's a lot of people. Well,

1:26:14.120 --> 1:26:17.320
<v Speaker 3>I guess because there's a there's a large group of

1:26:17.400 --> 1:26:21.080
<v Speaker 3>people who feel like, like Drea, she deleted her whole

1:26:21.160 --> 1:26:22.479
<v Speaker 3>is you know what I mean? So a lot of

1:26:22.479 --> 1:26:23.360
<v Speaker 3>people feel like.

1:26:23.880 --> 1:26:26.960
<v Speaker 5>That's like yeah, like ye did.

1:26:27.080 --> 1:26:28.720
<v Speaker 6>But I don't like people think that.

1:26:28.800 --> 1:26:29.120
<v Speaker 4>I think.

1:26:29.280 --> 1:26:32.639
<v Speaker 1>I think what happens is I think, don't get me wrong,

1:26:33.520 --> 1:26:37.439
<v Speaker 1>shout out to uh, what's your old lady or not?

1:26:37.640 --> 1:26:37.840
<v Speaker 6>Kim?

1:26:39.520 --> 1:26:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah Amber, Like I think Amber is trying to find

1:26:44.760 --> 1:26:48.040
<v Speaker 1>the space to where she can exist. But because people

1:26:48.280 --> 1:26:50.599
<v Speaker 1>have this kind of it just come with the territory.

1:26:50.640 --> 1:26:51.719
<v Speaker 1>You gotta wear it proudly.

1:26:52.040 --> 1:26:52.880
<v Speaker 6>And I agree with you.

1:26:53.040 --> 1:26:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I think really true gang members could add the most

1:26:56.840 --> 1:27:00.240
<v Speaker 1>to social commentary, even when it comes to war, Like

1:27:00.320 --> 1:27:03.599
<v Speaker 1>if you educated, like if I educated Pluck on wars

1:27:03.920 --> 1:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>and what was happening and what people really were fighting

1:27:06.320 --> 1:27:08.840
<v Speaker 1>for the facts, he just like me, he could break

1:27:08.880 --> 1:27:10.759
<v Speaker 1>it down into what's going on in the community.

1:27:10.840 --> 1:27:13.240
<v Speaker 6>That's the same. Like there was a time in Compton

1:27:13.720 --> 1:27:17.160
<v Speaker 6>that the access powers were created. So the access power.

1:27:17.120 --> 1:27:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Remember people when the three countries came together and they

1:27:19.200 --> 1:27:20.559
<v Speaker 1>named themself, they was all together.

1:27:21.000 --> 1:27:22.040
<v Speaker 6>That happened in Compton.

1:27:22.920 --> 1:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>There was a time in Compton where it was like

1:27:24.600 --> 1:27:30.400
<v Speaker 1>occasion town forms Front Palmer, Tana, Nutty, South Atlantic like

1:27:30.760 --> 1:27:33.719
<v Speaker 1>they were like, So it's hilarious to me that people

1:27:33.760 --> 1:27:34.519
<v Speaker 1>don't see.

1:27:35.320 --> 1:27:39.600
<v Speaker 4>And that's probably not like neighborhoods and gangster crips like

1:27:39.800 --> 1:27:43.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, a consolidation so to speaker alliances.

1:27:42.920 --> 1:27:46.280
<v Speaker 7>With your famous line you always say, people are intellectually lazy.

1:27:46.400 --> 1:27:49.519
<v Speaker 8>That takes too much thought to put together and start

1:27:49.600 --> 1:27:53.880
<v Speaker 8>thinking about all that they comparisons and breaking it down.

1:27:54.000 --> 1:27:55.920
<v Speaker 8>Niggas like nigga, we just clicking over with the home

1:27:56.000 --> 1:27:58.679
<v Speaker 8>ship cracking over here, like they don't want to have type.

1:27:58.800 --> 1:28:02.519
<v Speaker 8>It's too deep and everybody not. You gotta really want

1:28:02.640 --> 1:28:05.479
<v Speaker 8>to know this type of shit to a degree.

1:28:06.439 --> 1:28:08.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I don't think it's too deep. I think

1:28:08.680 --> 1:28:12.400
<v Speaker 3>it's it's something that should be taught for sure, for sure.

1:28:13.200 --> 1:28:15.040
<v Speaker 8>But it's one of the things where now we're in

1:28:15.080 --> 1:28:17.479
<v Speaker 8>the social media age or internet age, where you gotta

1:28:17.520 --> 1:28:17.840
<v Speaker 8>seek it.

1:28:17.960 --> 1:28:19.960
<v Speaker 7>Everybody like, man, it's right there, you should.

1:28:19.680 --> 1:28:20.080
<v Speaker 6>Go get it.

1:28:20.640 --> 1:28:23.640
<v Speaker 5>Because at the same time, it's like we love OG's.

1:28:23.720 --> 1:28:26.160
<v Speaker 5>People love to be like, oh, we need more ogs.

1:28:26.200 --> 1:28:29.280
<v Speaker 5>We know, we love that idea of an older man

1:28:29.400 --> 1:28:30.640
<v Speaker 5>who can give game, But.

1:28:31.000 --> 1:28:33.800
<v Speaker 3>If he ain't experienced nothing, or if he haven't been

1:28:33.880 --> 1:28:36.720
<v Speaker 3>through certain trials or tribulation, what's game can he really

1:28:36.800 --> 1:28:37.080
<v Speaker 3>give you?

1:28:38.439 --> 1:28:40.280
<v Speaker 5>So we like the idea of the OG, but we

1:28:40.360 --> 1:28:41.719
<v Speaker 5>don't like the story of the OG.

1:28:42.120 --> 1:28:45.599
<v Speaker 3>We like the idea of you know, these people who

1:28:45.680 --> 1:28:48.400
<v Speaker 3>are wise, but then we criticize our just story.

1:28:49.360 --> 1:28:50.400
<v Speaker 2>No grandfather, he.

1:28:50.479 --> 1:28:51.679
<v Speaker 7>Was doing this, who we can telling?

1:28:51.960 --> 1:28:52.160
<v Speaker 3>Right?

1:28:53.760 --> 1:28:57.000
<v Speaker 7>My dad right now we're now he'll be like, son,

1:28:57.280 --> 1:28:58.360
<v Speaker 7>that ain't the way to do it.

1:28:59.240 --> 1:29:02.040
<v Speaker 4>Because people don't like being criticized and don't like being

1:29:02.080 --> 1:29:06.200
<v Speaker 4>told to do so the second that they can use

1:29:06.439 --> 1:29:08.599
<v Speaker 4>that to their advantage in one way or the other day,

1:29:08.640 --> 1:29:11.000
<v Speaker 4>will it's oh, well, you should listen to that person.

1:29:11.600 --> 1:29:13.439
<v Speaker 4>It's always and that's usually what it is. If it's

1:29:13.479 --> 1:29:16.080
<v Speaker 4>not you, you should listen to that person. If it's you,

1:29:16.520 --> 1:29:17.720
<v Speaker 4>you can't tell me what to do because you did

1:29:17.760 --> 1:29:19.760
<v Speaker 4>the same thing. That's pretty much what it is because

1:29:19.760 --> 1:29:21.400
<v Speaker 4>no one wants that.

1:29:22.400 --> 1:29:25.080
<v Speaker 3>Is exactly what Van Laketon just said on his show

1:29:25.880 --> 1:29:28.439
<v Speaker 3>The Last One when he was talking about uh A

1:29:28.560 --> 1:29:30.880
<v Speaker 3>Sulton Kendrick. He was basically saying, like, well, who can

1:29:30.920 --> 1:29:33.920
<v Speaker 3>speak up for black women? Because who's more rap? Like

1:29:34.040 --> 1:29:36.879
<v Speaker 3>who is clean enough or has a clean enough image

1:29:37.160 --> 1:29:39.479
<v Speaker 3>to say something without it be like, well you can't

1:29:39.520 --> 1:29:41.839
<v Speaker 3>say that because you're this, or you can't say that because.

1:29:41.600 --> 1:29:43.719
<v Speaker 6>You're that Black women. Shits just jumpy.

1:29:44.760 --> 1:29:47.960
<v Speaker 5>But not even not even that. I'm just saying, like,

1:29:48.479 --> 1:29:51.679
<v Speaker 5>why do we have to like have this moral ground

1:29:51.720 --> 1:29:52.920
<v Speaker 5>on who can say what.

1:29:53.520 --> 1:29:57.040
<v Speaker 8>I'm because don't nobody because don't nobody wants it? Like

1:29:57.120 --> 1:29:59.400
<v Speaker 8>he just said, don't nobody want to be right wrong?

1:30:00.240 --> 1:30:02.519
<v Speaker 8>They don't want to take accountability of what they're doing,

1:30:02.920 --> 1:30:04.760
<v Speaker 8>so they're gonna point out every little thing like I

1:30:04.880 --> 1:30:08.320
<v Speaker 8>seen shows point out the no Vassiline verse like like bro,

1:30:08.439 --> 1:30:10.720
<v Speaker 8>the nigga don't even say your name, bro, but do

1:30:10.880 --> 1:30:11.400
<v Speaker 8>your thing.

1:30:11.840 --> 1:30:15.160
<v Speaker 4>And they'll do it either which way. If you're a

1:30:15.280 --> 1:30:18.320
<v Speaker 4>person who has the experience and you tell someone something

1:30:18.360 --> 1:30:20.160
<v Speaker 4>they don't want to hear, Oh, you can't tell me

1:30:20.240 --> 1:30:23.240
<v Speaker 4>that you did that. If you didn't have the experience,

1:30:25.120 --> 1:30:26.400
<v Speaker 4>you don't even know, you ain't never seen it.

1:30:28.920 --> 1:30:32.519
<v Speaker 5>You can tell me because if you want to hear it, Okay,

1:30:32.720 --> 1:30:34.960
<v Speaker 5>all right, I get I mean I.

1:30:37.000 --> 1:30:40.799
<v Speaker 7>You learn from the information, so you're going to be patient.

1:30:40.880 --> 1:30:41.720
<v Speaker 7>We will come with you.

1:30:41.880 --> 1:30:44.599
<v Speaker 8>Not just some people is just literally on their waiting

1:30:44.640 --> 1:30:46.479
<v Speaker 8>to disagree with you. That's why even with some of

1:30:46.520 --> 1:30:48.880
<v Speaker 8>the females that ain't married, but they might drop some

1:30:49.040 --> 1:30:51.400
<v Speaker 8>jewels and the like she ain't even married, but it's like, damn,

1:30:51.439 --> 1:30:53.760
<v Speaker 8>what she just said made right.

1:30:53.880 --> 1:30:57.120
<v Speaker 6>I like that about peering, like not having kids.

1:30:57.240 --> 1:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't have that emotional connections to kids, so I

1:30:59.720 --> 1:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>can see it from the outside. But people like you

1:31:02.240 --> 1:31:04.360
<v Speaker 1>need kids, no, because then I would feel like you

1:31:04.479 --> 1:31:07.040
<v Speaker 1>and I wouldn't be able to carry out to act right.

1:31:07.120 --> 1:31:09.960
<v Speaker 6>I would have to think of it from this emotional standard.

1:31:10.320 --> 1:31:14.280
<v Speaker 7>And being apparent his emotional nigga. Kids will hurt your feelings, nigga, you.

1:31:14.400 --> 1:31:16.799
<v Speaker 6>Need to stand up to they little lass go ahead.

1:31:16.640 --> 1:31:18.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you'd be like, damn, that's how you feel, nigga.

1:31:18.840 --> 1:31:22.640
<v Speaker 8>My daughter got mad because we didn't have yams and

1:31:22.760 --> 1:31:25.120
<v Speaker 8>said thanksgivings just ruined, so.

1:31:26.600 --> 1:31:27.759
<v Speaker 7>Just so hot, nigga.

1:31:27.880 --> 1:31:29.640
<v Speaker 8>I had to text your like, hey, look we got

1:31:29.680 --> 1:31:32.920
<v Speaker 8>a couple of yams, but hey, I don't appreciate how

1:31:32.960 --> 1:31:34.200
<v Speaker 8>you just, you know, the way you.

1:31:34.360 --> 1:31:39.680
<v Speaker 4>Somebody else order. If she's not going to send up

1:31:39.680 --> 1:31:41.840
<v Speaker 4>for yams and decency in society, then.

1:31:41.800 --> 1:31:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Who will I feel you?

1:31:43.400 --> 1:31:45.960
<v Speaker 7>But the way she just was like stormed out, Oh

1:31:46.040 --> 1:31:48.360
<v Speaker 7>my god, the things giving you just brewing.

1:31:48.200 --> 1:31:52.519
<v Speaker 6>Down looking out.

1:31:52.560 --> 1:31:55.400
<v Speaker 1>For tuning into the No Sellers podcast, please do us

1:31:55.400 --> 1:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>a favorite, subscribe, rate, comment, and share. This episode was

1:31:58.840 --> 1:32:01.080
<v Speaker 1>recorded right here on the Web coast of the USA.

1:32:01.439 --> 1:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>It produced about the Black Effect Podcast Network and Notheart Radio.

1:32:05.600 --> 1:32:05.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah