1 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to this week's episode of your favorite podcast, 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Cheeky's and Chill. Today, I want to talk to you 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: about something that's been on my mind a lot lately. 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: I want to talk about colorism. 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: You may not know what that is by name, but. 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure most of you have either witnessed it 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: or experienced it for ten So it's basically when people 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: with lighter skin tones are favored or treated better than 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: those with deeper skin tones. This happens way too often 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: in our community, guys, and it needs to stop. One 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: of my best friends, Brianna Hauser Gonzalez, has a lot 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: to say about this topic because her own children. 13 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: Have faced this type of discrimination. 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: Brianna is here with us right now, so let's give 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: her a big, warm welcome whatever. 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: Boo, welcome to the podcast. I'm so happy that you're here. 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: But before we move on, because we have a lot 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: to unpack it, I want to play a video that 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: you posted on TikTok for our listeners. 20 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: Let's chat about something that really bothers me. It really 21 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: bothers me that the Hispanic culture treats children differently based 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: on their skin. I grew up Hispanic proudly. I am 23 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: obviously fair skin, blue eyes. I never really paid attention 24 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 3: until I had kids on my own. My oldest son 25 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 3: is so cute. He is a little darker complexin, he 26 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 3: has big brown eyes. 27 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 2: He's so handsome. He was born. 28 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: Of course I'm obsessed with him. My second came. My 29 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: second is very light skinned, big green eyes, and he 30 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: is treated completely different. When we're out in public. People 31 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 3: see him. Oh, I get mos sol, I veil homes 32 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: a bandless, I get true. 33 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: Okay. 34 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, my oldest is standing there like just looking. That 35 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: bothers me. Why is that a thing? 36 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: So here we have miss Brianna. How are. 37 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 3: Yes? Yes? My gosh? Okay, yeah. 38 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: So let me start because I mentioned the video and 39 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: we had talked about it like vaguely, and then when 40 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: you posted the video, I was so proud of you, 41 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: and I remember sharing it and I remember how much 42 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: traction it got because this is stuff that people don't 43 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: talk about enough, especially in our community. 44 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: So I want you let's start there. 45 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the video and why you felt the 46 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: need to like put it on TikTok and talk about this. 47 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: And I did not think, like I was like nobody's 48 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 3: probably gonna even watch this, but I don't care. Like, 49 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: even if one person watches it, it makes himself more aware, 50 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: that's all that, Like, even one person. Right, So I 51 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 3: was sitting in my car, like sitting in my car, 52 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: and I had taken the kids inside the store, and 53 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: this happens. I'm not even exaggerating at least once a week. 54 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 3: My older one is a little darker skin, dark eyes, 55 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: which I love, and my middle one is very fair skinned, 56 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: bright green, huge green eyes. And every single time we're 57 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: almost every single time we're out, it's like my older 58 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: one they see him and they're like, oh, and then 59 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: they see my one, you know, and they're like, oh, 60 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: is he yours? And I'm like yeah, and oh my god, 61 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: he's so cute. Oh my gosh, look at his green eyes. 62 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: Oh he has eyes like you. And then they'll look 63 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: at my other one and be like he must look 64 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: like his dad, right, And I'm just like yeah. But 65 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: it's just like and he's now ten, so like he 66 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: he's noticed, like he'd ck yeah, like and I'm just like, 67 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: and my my middle one could care less, Like he 68 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 3: doesn't even care, nor does he know, Like he's just 69 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: like yeah, yeah, like doesn't care, and I'm just like, okay, 70 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 3: he's getting older now, like this is not okay, Like, yeah, 71 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: it's very prevalent in the Hispanic community, which is and 72 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: I and a lot of people said that in my video, 73 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: like this is all cultures like but I can only 74 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 3: speak for me, right, And a lot of people came 75 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 3: for me in the video too, like oh you this 76 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 3: has been happening for a long time, but now that 77 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: it's happening to your kids, now, now it's a big issue. 78 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: And I'm like it's funny because yeah, because in my family, 79 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 3: it wasn't a thing, Like my family never made it 80 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: like an issue or anything. Until I married my husband. 81 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: I noticed in his family it was very much a thing, 82 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: like they still even now. Like I remember one of 83 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 3: the first times meeting him, it was like his brother 84 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: joked like, oh, I'm like, you're you're so fair skin like, 85 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 3: why do you like him? He's so dark? Ha ha 86 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: ha like and I was just like yeah, And I 87 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: just thought I didn't even see him as dark, Like 88 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: it wasn't a thing for me, Like I didn't see 89 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 3: him as like a darker I don't know. And I 90 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 3: was just like, no, he's not and they were like, yeah, 91 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: he is. He's like the darkest one out of all 92 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: of us. And I was like what, Like I. 93 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: Didn't even that's it. 94 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: It didn't even because it wasn't in my family. It 95 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 3: wasn't a thing. And obviously, like I'm fair skinned, so 96 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,799 Speaker 3: I didn't experience it me. And then when we had 97 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: my son, like he was born and of course it's 98 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 3: your son, like you're obsessed it's your baby, Like I 99 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 3: don't you could it could be the ugliest baby, but 100 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 3: it's yours and you think it's the bost perfect baby. 101 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: So he's born, and I remember, like my mother in 102 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: law be like, oh, is he dark? And I was 103 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: just like, that's yours. That's the first thing that you asked. 104 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: Like that's like I was like stop, I don't know 105 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 3: and I don't care, like what, Yeah, And they wanted 106 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 3: to know if he had blue eyes or green eyes 107 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: or brown eyes. And it's just like they didn't ask 108 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 3: me like, hey, is Breonna hell, like did she come 109 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: out of you know? Everything? Okay? Is the baby okay? Yes, 110 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: yeah exactly, And it's just like that's what we're worried about, 111 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: like and it's just the day I posted the video. 112 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: I was just like I had had it, Like I 113 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 3: was just like, this is not okay, Like this is 114 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: not okay because he's getting older and it's just gonna 115 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: be like if we don't as a community try to 116 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 3: like stop this, like it's just gonna be carried on 117 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 3: and carried on and carried on. And it's the amount 118 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 3: of people that commented in the video like I'm Indian 119 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 3: and this happens I'm and I'm just like wow, Like. 120 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: It happens way too much, and it has happened for 121 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: a long time, a very long time, but it doesn't 122 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: make it okay. 123 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: It's like, so when do we talk about it? 124 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm going to talk about it now because yes, 125 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: I'm experiencing it and I have noticed that it's happened 126 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: for years, and now that I have this platform, I'm 127 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: going to share it. 128 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: And I think you did amazing. Of course, there's. 129 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: Always going to be people that talk crap and come 130 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: for you. That's just the world we live in, especially 131 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: with social media. But I'm so glad that you brought 132 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: it up because I've talked about it here and there 133 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: on the podcast because I've experienced it or i've seen 134 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: it in my family. But just to give you guys 135 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: some context for those of you that don't follow me 136 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: on social media or don't know who Brianna or what 137 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: she looks like. So Brianna is lights, she has fair skin, 138 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: she has big blue green eyes, these long, beautiful lashes. 139 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: She's a beautiful girl. She has a big old booty. 140 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: But anyway, we don't have to. 141 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: Talk about all that. 142 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: And for another day. 143 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's for another day. Big booty problems are just kidding. 144 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: And her husband, who I absolutely adore, I call him 145 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: like he's like like a Jesus walking on earth. Guys, 146 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: I know that's crazy. You guys are be like, what 147 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: the hell? No, But honestly, every day this man wakes 148 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: up and he's about his family, about the Lord, about church, 149 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: about praying. He sends me scriptures like he's amazing. 150 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 3: Very intentional about how he lives his life. 151 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: Yes, so frekolutely I with everything. Yes I thrive to 152 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: be like him. And actually I should have him on 153 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: the podcast, to be honest, and we should talk about 154 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: these things. 155 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,599 Speaker 2: But he's he has a deeper. 156 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: Deeper skin tone and but beautiful skin, I mean beautiful. 157 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: So Charlie is the eldest, and he looks a lot 158 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: like his dad and like Brianna said, and then there's 159 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: Luke who's he's still like like he's fair right, his 160 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: skin a little bit like he has a little bit tan. 161 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: And then and then Markie who's my godson, and they 162 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: in the middle. 163 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: He's in the middle. 164 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: Mark's like in the middle. He has like a little 165 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 3: even him, he gets a lot of attention to because 166 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: his eyes are green, so they'll be like, I may 167 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: not get I get you. And then Charlie is just 168 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: like standing there. 169 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: It's handsome, so sad. 170 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: Yes, that pisses me off because I was like, no, 171 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: like I'm like, Charlie's so beautiful, so handsome, and it 172 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: just it's disappointing. 173 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: Guys. 174 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: I think we needed to talk about this because it's 175 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: disappointing that it happens. And I think if we speak 176 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: about it, maybe it'll cause some awareness within ourselves. Maybe 177 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: we do that, maybe there are someone that's listening that 178 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: is like, does that and and and you don't understand 179 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: what it causes. 180 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: Children. 181 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: Some of my cousins on my mom's side, they always felt, 182 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: I think and verbalized later on as we got older, how. 183 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: We were treated my mom's. 184 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: Children because we are lighter and my grandmother without throwing 185 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: any shade because that's it's not what I'm trying to do, 186 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: but this is a fact. I don't know if it 187 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: was because we are my mom's children and you know, 188 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: like you tend to be closer to the kids from 189 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: like I guess the daughter, but my cousins always felt 190 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: it was because they were a little darker complex. 191 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: I had like a darker. 192 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: Skin tone, and I did see the difference to the 193 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,599 Speaker 1: point where my grandma would always call them las brietas 194 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: and that's hurtful, like it. I remember it was kind 195 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: of like joltinge like when I heard it and I 196 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: was younger, and I was like, yes, brietas, I was like, 197 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: and I swear to you, I was like, I want 198 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: to freaking go outside in tan. I want to be darker, 199 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: like I want to like you know what I mean. 200 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: And I'm like, is that a bad thing too? 201 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: You know? 202 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, because she would say it in a negative way, 203 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I remember thinking I was young, I 204 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: was fourteen. I was like even a little younger than 205 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: I was, like, oh, is that like a bad thing? 206 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: Because I think it's beautiful. But I've seen it more 207 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: and more, even like Elio though. 208 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 3: We've normalized it, normalized it, yeah, and it's like that's horrible, 209 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 3: Like that's horrible. Yeah, weight and skin tone and like 210 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 3: if we have green eyes or colored eyes, that's like 211 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: such a big deal. So who cares? Like I just 212 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't get it, and I know that. 213 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 3: I feel like I've heard your brother say before too 214 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: that like he has seen it with his kids. I 215 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 3: don't know if I'm allowed to say this, so you 216 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 3: could cut the okay. I've heard him say, you know Luna, 217 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: who like is amazing, like she he has seen it 218 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: with her a little bit. And it's just like and 219 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 3: I feel like if we don't bring awareness to it, 220 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 3: some people don't even know that they do it, like 221 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: the old school Hispanic mentality. I think they think it's 222 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 3: like what what, how is that bad? Like they don't 223 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 3: even know how damaging it could be, you know, And 224 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 3: if we don't bring, like I said, awareness to it, 225 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: like they might not even know, like you you shouldn't 226 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: say that, Like that's not okay to. 227 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: Say, you know, no for sure, one hundred percent. 228 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: And that's why I feel like if we talk about 229 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: this now, hopefully in the generations to come, like it'll stop, 230 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: and you did. 231 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: Have you've mentioned that. 232 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: Rob your husband has also experienced it. 233 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: Has it been like his with his family? Obviously you 234 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: mentioned his family. 235 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 3: His family, like his whole life, his family, and like 236 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: I remember we took Christmas pictures and we showed his 237 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 3: grandma the Christmas pictures and she was like she looked 238 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 3: at it and she was like like that was her 239 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 3: first thing that she said. And he was like, okay, Grandma, 240 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 3: Like he's so like he's sensitive, but it's but it's 241 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 3: that's bad. Like I was like, you should say, like, well, 242 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 3: that's not nice, you know, like you I'm not saying 243 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 3: be rude to her. I'm not saying be disrespectful to her, 244 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 3: but that's the first thing that you say. Like to me, 245 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 3: it's just like our mentality is just it's wrong. Like 246 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 3: and like I said, she's older, right, so I don't 247 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 3: even think she realizes how messed up that is, you know, 248 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 3: And you're right, like if we bring awareness to it 249 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: and it's like speak up, and I think that eventually 250 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: maybe it can stop. 251 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: You know, has he experienced it, like in the workplace. 252 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I know he worked for the family business 253 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: for a long time, and now that he's in real estate, 254 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: has he mentioned anything like that. 255 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 3: He he also does look very young for his age. Yeah, 256 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 3: so I feel like people kind of like, oh, like 257 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 3: like the other day he was dealing with someone and 258 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: the way it was an older white man and the 259 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: way that he said he talked to him. My husband 260 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: was like, I just wanted to tell him I'm not 261 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: some dumb hispanic, Like I know what I'm saying, I'm 262 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: not stupid. Like just because I go because of the 263 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 3: way I look doesn't mean i'm you know, dumb or 264 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: I know any less you Yeah, And he's just like no, 265 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 3: And I'm just like, good for you, like because he 266 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 3: could be very chill and and I'm just like, don't 267 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 3: allow yourself. Like I'm not saying be disrespectful, be rude, 268 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: be whatever, but like you know, it's it's okay to 269 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 3: put your foot down and be like no, yeah, and 270 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: he's just like, you're right, you're right. And I'm just like, but, 271 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: like I said, his family, it's so prevalent with them 272 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: that I feel like he has kind of normalized it himself. 273 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 3: And but when it comes to the kids, he's very like, no, 274 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: I tell my older son, like, you look just like dad, 275 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 3: Like you look so handsome, you just like dad. He's like, 276 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: I don't think I look like dad, because I think 277 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: that my husband's family has made it a negative thing. 278 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: And so he kind of like has now perceived it 279 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 3: as like and I'm like why, and he's just like, 280 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, and but I know that that's what 281 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: it is, because they make it such a prevalent thing 282 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: that that he's dark. And my husband's like, I don't 283 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 3: I don't care what they say. I don't care, but 284 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: it's just like it if nobody puts a stop to it, 285 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 3: it's never gonna end, you know, ah for sure. Yeah. 286 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: And his Charlie like noticed it, like it's school or 287 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: anything like that. Or when he this does happen at 288 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: the store, does he say, hey, Mom, why are they 289 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: like that? Does he bring it up to you? 290 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: He's almost like he'll just kind of like roll, No, 291 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: he doesn't really bring it up anyone because it's we're 292 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 3: so used to it at this point. But like I said, 293 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 3: it's it's mostly within our our people that I see 294 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 3: it the most. Like it's and that's what makes me 295 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 3: so sad. I'm just like dang, like really, some people 296 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 3: have even asked me if my oldest and my middle 297 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 3: have the same dad. Oh my gosh, who asks that? Are? 298 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: They say, de lechro you know that's the biggest thing 299 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: all exactly. But yeah, yeah, no, there's this song too. 300 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: I can't really think of the name right now, but 301 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: they talk about it. So it's a very famous song, 302 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: like a Goumbia like type of song. Can't think of 303 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: the name right now, But it also talks about howo 304 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: and get that in a stuyo even though you think 305 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: it's he's not yours anyway, even in songs. Guys, is 306 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: it has been happening for way too long, and I'd 307 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: like to know when and how and why it started 308 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: and why this like separation and division that's being caused 309 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: with our skin color and how and why why is 310 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: it that like lighter skin is more beautiful. 311 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 3: My husband says that back a long time ago, it 312 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: was like the people who worked in the farms, the 313 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: people that worked picking fruit and all that they were 314 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 3: dark skin because they were out in the sun all 315 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: the time. So they were like the lower class people, right, 316 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: and so it just carried on, like, oh, your lighter skin, 317 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: so you work inside your of a higher status, I guess. 318 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 3: So like the farm workers, the people that are out 319 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 3: do it like they're darker complexed because they're out in 320 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 3: the sun all the time. So it was kind of like, oh, 321 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 3: those are lower class people, and it just like carried 322 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: on and it's just like such an ignorant thing, and ignorance, Yeah. 323 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: It's ignorance. That is the perfect word. Because I'm like, dude. 324 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: Now more than ever, and you know, and I'm trying 325 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,239 Speaker 1: to be like all hippie you know and love and 326 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: peace and love. But it's like with everything going on 327 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: in the world right now and now that you can 328 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: basically just by the way that you look, you can 329 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: be asked what your status is if you're a citizen, resident, etc. 330 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: And maybe that's some In some cases, you know, you're 331 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: not even asked. It's just unfortunate what's happening. But also 332 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: like those are the farm workers, yes, that are darker 333 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: because they're under the sun. They're picking our food, they're 334 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: feeding us, and I'm just like, how are they lower 335 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: and why? It's just it is, it is insane to me, 336 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: and I had to talk about this because it happens 337 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: very much, and you guys are going to listen to this, 338 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, podcast, and some people might be triggered and 339 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: get upset. And it's okay, I'm all for this is 340 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: something I'm very passionate about, but you guys need to 341 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: put a stop to it. Like, if this happens in 342 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: your household the way just Brionna just said it, if 343 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: they're doing it to your children, doesn't matter who it is, 344 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: like you have to say, like you need to stop 345 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: calling my son, my daughter this, or even myself, Like 346 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: we need to stop it because it's going to make 347 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: the children grow up and feel some type of way, 348 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: and it's gonna mess with their self esteem and they're 349 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: going to feel like they're lesder and less valuable because 350 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: of their skin color. 351 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: And that's not cool. 352 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: I mean, look, Tupac said it, the darker the berry, 353 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: the sweeter the juice, Okay, and that's what that's what 354 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: omi you guys. 355 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 3: She's been on the podcast. That's so funny. 356 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: But it's just like I always think of that and 357 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, there's so much beauty it does not matter. 358 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: And again, it's not because oh you know, like you know, 359 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: hippie love and peace and love. But it's I really 360 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: truly believe it. 361 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: Guys. 362 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: There's beauty in everyone and in everything. Somewhere down the line, 363 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: we get lost because of shit like this and things 364 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: that happen in our own family that causes this and 365 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: causes not only that anger. That's also another thing. 366 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 3: That's what a lot of comments in the video, it 367 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 3: was mostly people say that it's than their own family. 368 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 3: Oh this is this was me growing up, this was 369 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 3: me with my aunt, me with my and that's even 370 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 3: more sad that it's doing it to their own family. 371 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 3: Is even to me, more sad than somebody out in 372 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 3: the street, right, like if your own family, you know, 373 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 3: it's just like and like I said, if you, a 374 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: lot of people came came at me. Oh now now 375 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 3: it's an issue for you because you you have kids. 376 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 3: It was like, no, my family didn't make it a 377 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 3: thing like my family. It wasn't like oh that person's 378 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 3: dart like it just never my family was not like that. 379 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 3: So of course when i'm and it wasn't even until 380 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 3: I had my kids. Is when when I met when 381 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 3: I met him, I was like, why does your family 382 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 3: say that, And the other day even his brother said 383 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: it that someone came into work and was like, oh, 384 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 3: that's that's your brother. He's actually and and he and 385 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 3: that he said yes and that he goes, wow, he's 386 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 3: like so so much darker than you. And I was 387 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: like why do you? And I and I turned to 388 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: and I turned to him and I was like, why 389 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 3: do you have to say that? Like I was before 390 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 3: any before my husband could even speak up, and I 391 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 3: was like, can you not say that? 392 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: Good? 393 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 3: And then he was yeah. I was just like, can 394 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 3: you not say that because if it's gonna now affect 395 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 3: my son, like that's not okay, Like yeah, you're not 396 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 3: gonna like no, and he was just like why like 397 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 3: and I was just like no, because it's not funny, 398 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: Like it's not a joke, it's not funny. And if 399 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 3: I don't stop it here, it's going to continue. So 400 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 3: I'm just like, no, I don't care, Like you're not 401 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 3: gonna say that, especially in front of my kids, Like 402 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 3: I'm not going to carry this on, Like I'm not 403 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 3: going to let this carry on with my own family. 404 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: So exactly, you have to break that, yeah, yeah exactly, 405 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: And if we don't for our kids, then who else 406 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: is right? Absolutely, it's very unfair, guys. And I do think, 407 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: like like Rob said, it does have to do with colonization. 408 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 2: And how you know how all that happened. 409 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: It happens in so many different cultures, even like I, 410 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, talk and to coding my trainer and how 411 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: he notices in his culture in the black community, how 412 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, the light skin, they're more beautiful. 413 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: They get casted for certain parts and it's like why 414 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: you know. 415 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: And in Asian culture they always hide from the sun. 416 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: They want to be as light as possible because there's 417 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: something there as well. And again, like you said, we 418 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: can't speak on that too much because we can only 419 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: speak about what we have experience and what we have. 420 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: Noticed in our Latino community. But it does. 421 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: It's all around the world, guys. It's everywhere. It's like 422 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: the lighter you are, the more beautiful you are. And 423 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: as a lighter, complexted woman, I want to speak up 424 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: and say it's not cool, it doesn't feel good. So, 425 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: now that we've kind of talked about personal experiences and 426 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 1: how passionate we both are about this subject, I do 427 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: want to kind of talk about like the physiological and 428 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: spiritual impact. 429 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: Guys. 430 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: Just so you guys can think about this, if it 431 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: does happen, if you are doing it without even knowing, 432 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: maybe you haven't even noticed. This is how you were 433 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: raised and you're doing it. But it definitely does create 434 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: self rejection and community division, guys. Disconnects people from roots 435 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: and ancestry. Okay, remember where we come from and how 436 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: they started. Okay, Europeans came and then now we have 437 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: a mixture of everything, but at the end of the day, 438 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: our ancestors are darker complexed, so we have to remember 439 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: where we come from. Healing begins with awareness, self love 440 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: and then learning false programming okay, of beauty and worth 441 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: and how do we heal Okay, like, how do we 442 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: heal this whole thing? How can we start healing it 443 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: and remembering who we are because obviously it comes, like 444 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: I just said, comes from generations before us and who 445 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: we want to be. And I'm so glad Rihanna that 446 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: you're like putting your foot down and standing up for 447 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: your family and for your husband and your children, because 448 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: that is the right thing to do, and there has 449 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: to be someone in the family to say, Okay, it 450 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: stops here because if not again, the damage is just 451 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: going to continue to the generations to come. Yeah, So 452 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 1: healing begins with seeing colorism for what it is, a 453 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: wound we inherited, not when we created. We heal by 454 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: acknowledging beauty in every shade, celebrating melanin, and teaching the 455 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: next generation differently. 456 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 2: Guys. 457 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: Tell your daughter, your niece, your little cousin, how beautiful 458 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: her skin is. Let her know her tone is sacred, 459 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: kiss by God and not a mistake. 460 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: Guys. 461 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: And I wrote this earlier because I was like, this 462 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: is how can I bring this and say, yes, let's 463 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: bring awareness but also healing. How can we start Some 464 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: people probably like damn, well, how do I fix this? 465 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: Obviously putting this stop to it, but also speaking words 466 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: of life into your children, like Brionna Has I'm sure 467 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: you've told Charlie yeah, and you're like, you know, hey, 468 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: you're beautiful, you're handsome, you're special. 469 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 2: What are some things that you have done to make 470 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: him confident? 471 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 3: Yesterday I took them to get their hair cut, all 472 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 3: three of them, and like, I tell you, each of 473 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 3: them the same thing. Oh my gosh, So I don't 474 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 3: like one to the other or it's very like you look, 475 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love the way you look like 476 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 3: you look today when I got there ready for school. 477 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 3: Every day, I'm just like before they walk out the door, 478 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, you're so handsome, You're so cute, like and 479 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 3: I do that every single day. I'm just like, I 480 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 3: want them to know that all of them are special 481 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 3: in all their ways. They're all different, and I love 482 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 3: that they're different. Like if we were all the same, 483 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 3: Like that would be no fun if we were all 484 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 3: the same, if God made us all the same, boring. Yeah, yeah, 485 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 3: So it's just like that's what makes us special. And 486 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 3: that's what we have to love about our children, about 487 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 3: each other, and we just have to spread that. We 488 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 3: have to spread that and not be so ignorant, you. 489 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: Know, absolutely, And representation matters, guys, but so does conversation. 490 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: And the real healing happens in our homes, like I 491 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 1: said earlier, in our mirrors and in the words we 492 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: speak daily, like yeah, Brianna just said where we have 493 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: to speak into people. And I'm sure you tell Rob 494 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,479 Speaker 1: all the time time, your husband, I love you, you're handsome, like, ye, 495 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: we are all beautiful. 496 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: We all have. 497 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: Something we all have something to share, we all have 498 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: something special, We all have our own light. Guys, it 499 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: does not matter what. 500 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 3: We were all here to radiate something like, you each 501 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 3: have something that we're going to bring to this world. 502 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 3: And it's just like this has to end. This has 503 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 3: to end in order in order to. 504 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 2: Heal, absolutely, especially with our children. 505 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this will definitely I think this conversation, having 506 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: this conversation now, hopefully it does awaken something within all 507 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: of us, within you listening, and we can stop this 508 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: so that it doesn't affect our children and their futures 509 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: and how they present themselves in this world, because that's 510 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: where it starts, like I said. 511 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 2: In our homes. 512 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: And I just want to say thank you Boo for 513 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: coming on and talking about this. I know this is 514 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: a conversation that brings tears to your eyes because they're 515 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: your children, it's your husband. And I think you just 516 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: got to point where you're fed up and you're like, 517 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm done with this, and I'm glad. I'm glad that 518 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: you're speaking up and defending your kids because they're so beautiful. 519 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: You have beautiful because and I'm not just telling you, 520 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: they get like they're all very different all very beautiful, 521 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: all very intelligent. You guys have done a great job, 522 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: and I'm glad and I just want to say thank 523 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: you for coming on and talking about it. 524 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for having me. I did want 525 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 3: to ask you one thing. Did your cousins in your 526 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: family did they sense it as well? 527 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: They definitely felt it, they saw it. 528 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: My grandma did treat us differently. 529 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: I don't know again for what reasons, but we were 530 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: always called beautiful and they were called las brietas, and 531 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,239 Speaker 1: my grandma didn't really show them the same love to 532 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: the point where I think they even resented me. I 533 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: think some issues. Obviously there might be a lot more 534 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: there to unpack. I just haven't been able to have 535 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: that conversation with them on a DP level that probably 536 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: I've done that bother them. But I think that's one 537 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: of the things. It's they always treated you guys different, 538 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: and you know, and we were treated differently in not 539 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: such a good way, and they're the love was not 540 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: the same and there was a lot of favoritism. 541 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 3: Do you feel like it carried on It's carried on 542 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 3: through their adult life, like for sure. 543 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And that's what's the horrible part. Right, Yeah, 544 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: because they probably they feel they resent me for whatever reason, 545 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: or they resent us because because of it. And and 546 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: they're beautiful. They're beautiful girls, like all my cousins, like 547 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: especially my Theolupe's daughters, they're all beautiful girls. They have 548 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: a deeper skin tone, but they're beautiful. And I see 549 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: them and I'm like, they're gorgeous, Like I don't, I 550 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: don't know, but again I'm not in their shoes. Yeah, 551 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: but I did realize. I'm like, damn, I saw how 552 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 1: different they were treated because of that and or whatever 553 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,719 Speaker 1: other reasons. But regardless to me and to them, I 554 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: know that they felt it was because they were darker. 555 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, just it sucks. 556 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: Because it also ruined our relationship, you know, for whatever reason. 557 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: They're very distant. And I don't blame them, you know, 558 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm like it, it just sucks, dude. It's just it's 559 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: not cool, you know. And I'm sure it's affected their confidence, 560 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: although I see them a lot better now, like, you know, 561 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: like they're out there a little more, which I like. 562 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: But it does suck for sure. 563 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 3: And people think that kids don't pick up on it. 564 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 3: People think that kids like, oh, they don't they don't. 565 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 3: They're not paying attention. They don't know. The kids are sponges. 566 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 3: They pick up on everything, everything, every single thing, like 567 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 3: they if maybe not when they're four or five years old, 568 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 3: but eventually, like my oldest one is ten, like eventually 569 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 3: they are going to pick up on it, and you 570 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 3: don't want them to carry that through their adult life. 571 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 3: Like we have to put an end to it, because 572 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 3: then I don't want him to carry it, carry it 573 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 3: to his own family. So that's why we have to 574 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: do our part. 575 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, ye, absolutely one. Yeah, yeah, no, thank you honestly, thank. 576 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 3: You, thank you for having me. 577 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: Of course, of course I know you got to go 578 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: pick them up, tell them I love them very much 579 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: and tell them that we're out here fighting for them 580 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: and I'm just kidding. Yeah yeah, but yeah, theat Cheeky's 581 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: has their back. But anyway, I love you and thank you, 582 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: and guys, thank you for listening. I hope that this 583 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: episode can really help in one way or another. And 584 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm not judging in any way. I grew up with 585 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: this type of verbiage in my life and in my childhood, 586 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: and I know how it's affected me now in my 587 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: adult life and how it's affected people that I love. 588 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: So it's just always to help and to better the 589 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: world and make the world a better place, one hard 590 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: at a time. So thank you guys for listening, for 591 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: being here. I love you, I appreciate you, and I'll 592 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: catch you on the next episode of your favorite podcast. 593 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: What is it? 594 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: Brionna, Cheeky's and Chill Yeah bye, guys. 595 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 596 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: This is a production of iHeartRadio and the Microda podcast Network. 597 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at Michael Doda Podcasts, then follow 598 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: me Chicky's That's c h i q U i s. 599 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeart, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 600 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast.