1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Hello, dear listener, did you know that you can join 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: futuro Plus to access extended interviews, bonus episodes, and even 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: live events. This episode is a conversation with my friend 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: actor Raul Castillo, and you can listen to the extended 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: cut of our interview right now by becoming a futuro 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: Plus member. And it's so good, so definitely sign up 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: at Futuromedia group dot org slash join plus e So raw. 8 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not a big chef, but I do know 9 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: how to make a meaning cod money excellent. 10 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: That's a good, that's a good. 11 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: Uh credit and I just need to add some and 12 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: then you're gonna give me the taste meneses and you 13 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: have to just be honest. 14 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: And the chips are from where it said you own. 15 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,279 Speaker 1: With tortillas from amazing. 16 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: Amazing. 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: All right, well you're this, I don't. I'm like, I'm 18 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: feeling a little something something. 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: Well looks great, looks great. What are you talking about? 20 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm not sure it looks you're going to get to 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: taste it. 22 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: It looks fantastic, all right, let's go. 23 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: It may yeah, but it may need some more something. 24 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: Mmmm. 25 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 3: And then I'm not big on like, I don't need 26 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 3: tons of salt, but. 27 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: But I think it's perfect right. 28 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: From media, It's Latino USA. I'm Maria Posa today actor 29 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: Raoul Castillo. You know he's one of the stars of 30 00:01:55,040 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: the TV show everybody's watching now It's HBO's Task. Il 31 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: Castillo came over to talk over to Topos and Wakamole 32 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: at my very own kitchen table. So the reason why 33 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: is that I was curious to sit down with Raoula 34 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: again because I know a lot has happened for him, 35 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: really and for the entire country since we did our 36 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: last sit down interview five years ago. Back in twenty eighteen, 37 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 1: Raoul's star was on the rise. He landed a high 38 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: profile role in the film Weavy Animals, and when I 39 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: spoke to him back then it was our first interview, 40 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: it struck me how in touch he was with himself 41 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: as a Mexican American man raised in South Texas who 42 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: was now making it big in Hollywood. Now, Raoul's star 43 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: is not just because he's an HBO's Task. It's also 44 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: that he joined the cast of The Walking Dead, and 45 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: he got married not too long ago. We had a 46 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: lot to catch up on, so joined Raoul and I 47 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: dear listener at my kitchen table while we munch on 48 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: some wakamole, and we talked about his success, us, about 49 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: politics and what it means to be a Latino actor 50 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: now trying to tell stories that matter soul. We spoke, 51 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: Can you believe it? It was twenty eighteen and a lot 52 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: has happened for you? 53 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 54 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you got married. 55 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you. 56 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: So if you had to sum it up, you're like, Wow, 57 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen to. 58 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: Now hasn't built quickly enough? 59 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 60 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: I want to be working more. 61 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: I want to you know, I want to be I 62 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: want to be competing with my peers, my non Latino 63 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: peers who don't seem to have some of the struggles 64 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: that I that I deal with. 65 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 66 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: In other words, from the outside, it looks like success, yeah, 67 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: but for you, it's like not enough? 68 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: What does that? 69 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: What does that do you? As an actor? 70 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: It could be demoralizing, but at the same time it 71 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,839 Speaker 3: I love telling stories, so nothing stops me. I kind 72 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: of keep going and I love collaborating, so I'm going 73 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 3: to continue to, you know, meet other artists that I 74 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: want to collaborate with. Well, I'm moving into producing now, 75 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: and I have several projects that I've been involved with 76 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: from the ground up, and finding the financing and finding 77 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: you know, the partners is incredibly difficult and seems almost 78 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 3: impossible at times. We are not there yet with a 79 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: couple of the projects, and I'm frustrated, but I'm but 80 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: I'm persevering. 81 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: All right. 82 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: So I'm on social media. You had been posting about 83 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 1: Task on HBO and I was like, well, I'm proud 84 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: of you. I'm like yes, also, Mark Ruffalo. 85 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: Yes, totally what a story. 86 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: So when you when you were asked to come in, 87 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: what did you think? 88 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: Jeremiah Zegar my dear friend who directed me and we 89 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 3: the animals of which we spoke about when I first 90 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: met you. So Jeremiah, when he calls, I say, yes, 91 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 3: he's become a not just one of my best friends, 92 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 3: but a collaborative partner that I hope to continue to 93 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: work with for the rest of my life. So whenever 94 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: he calls about something, I'm all ears. He told me 95 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,119 Speaker 3: that he had just met with Brad Inglesby, the writer 96 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 3: and creator of Mayor of East Town. My wife Alexis 97 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: and I were in lockdown and that was one of 98 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: the shows that we binged, so I knew we were 99 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 3: in for something special with the collaboration between Brad and Jeremiah, 100 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 3: and he sort of pitched it to me, told me 101 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 3: about the world and the inspiration for the story, and 102 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 3: I was in it. 103 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: I was sold. 104 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: And the thing is is that you don't play on Latino. 105 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: No Cliff Broward, which I guess could be Latino also yeah, 106 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: and also likes he's a guy who collects, he picks 107 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: up garbage. Yeah, Rob's drug houses, has tough friends. But 108 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: you play him with this so worried about him all 109 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: the time, your character because you're he's seen and doing 110 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: all these terrible things and then he's like, God, this 111 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: is terrible what we're doing. It's like you really brought 112 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: like a lot of kind of warmth to him. Why 113 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: how I. 114 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: Think that's a testament to Brad's writing. 115 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: You have to understand and you have to see their 116 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 3: humanity through you know, all of their faults. It was 117 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 3: such a lovable character from I mean, I just think 118 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: his loyalty to his friend was something that I felt 119 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: I connected with from the get go. 120 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: Sadly, the friend is like, hey, let's go, let's go 121 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: rob some people that are not good people, and also 122 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: we might end up shooting some people. 123 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they I don't think they intended 124 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 3: to kill anyone. I think they enter them this endeavor 125 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 3: feeling like it's a just caught, like they have a 126 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 3: just cause. So yeah, that's that's what anchored me in 127 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: terms of the story. 128 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: And after episode four, I was like, oh my god, 129 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: the scene of your so yeah, so what is it? 130 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: How we have to tell people fast forward if you 131 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: haven't seen it? Yeah, yep, your murder. Yeah, it's not 132 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: just a murder. Yeah, it's a full blown torture. And 133 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, oh my god. I just remember 134 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: texting you like this is insane, and your response was 135 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: it was I think you said it was the toughest 136 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: scene you've ever had, the darkest, darkest Yeah. Yeah, And 137 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: then I said make sure your mother doesn't watch. 138 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: You were still. 139 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: So what can you tell us about that? Also the production? 140 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's you know, I've died countless times 141 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 3: at this point on screen. I've been eaten alive by 142 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: zombies of you know, been blown to bits as an android, 143 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: I've dehydrated in the desert. But there's an uber realism 144 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 3: to task that you can't hide behind. I was flown 145 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: down to Atlanta from Philadelphia where we shot, and my 146 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: head was cast and they did a life like casting 147 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: of my head in order so that they could build 148 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: the prosthetic pieces that would be the formations of Cliff 149 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 3: Broward's face in this scene. Sat in the makeup chair 150 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: for nearly four hours while they applied these pieces. I've 151 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: been through some, you know, some prosthetics works in my career, 152 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: but never quite as gruesome, never quite as realistic. It 153 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: was blood sweat, just all kinds of layers to bring 154 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: about that level of realness of realism. 155 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 2: That we show in that scene. The half hours. 156 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 3: For camera and lights and I've seen partners for everyone 157 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: to be ready so that I can finally go sit 158 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: in that chair and we can figure out the mechanics, 159 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 3: the pragmatic elements of shooting the scene, which. 160 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: You know was a tricky scene. 161 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: Those several elements beyond the makeup that went into telling 162 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: the story that we had to figure out. And I've 163 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: never been on a set that somber. This was a 164 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: torture and a murder, and you can feel it. It 165 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: was a testament to our our crew and my castmates 166 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: that everyone was very reverential to the story. People just 167 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: took really great care and reverence to the story we 168 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 3: were telling, and like everyone got the memom. It was 169 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: a really somber set. 170 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: So what was that like for you, like to finish 171 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: the scene? 172 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 3: It was it was very surreal and I almost didn't 173 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 3: have to do much work because the makeup did a 174 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 3: lot of the work for me. Sometimes you have to 175 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 3: get in the mental space because you have to protect 176 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: the story you're telling. 177 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: People care about your character because in the end, in Task, 178 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: it's all about like family friendship. That's really what I 179 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: think what's connecting with Tasks? Yeah, talk a little bit 180 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: about that. 181 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 182 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: We were deep into production and they sent me episodes five, six, 183 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 3: and seven to read. Even though I'm not in them, 184 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: I wanted to read. I wanted to know, you know, 185 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 3: the whole story. And I was reading them and I 186 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 3: was talking to my wife and I was telling her, 187 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: you know, I'm reading these scripts. I'm like bawling my 188 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 3: eyes out. I'm just like just with you know, just 189 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 3: with the words. I'm just I'm weeping. And I thought 190 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: it was fascinating that Brad chose to have the male 191 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: characters sort of dominate the narrative for that to be 192 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 3: the the emotionally. 193 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: Charged and these are just men. These are like yeah, 194 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: like tough guys. Yeah, you know you don't want to 195 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: see them alone. 196 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I think that's such a testament to Brad 197 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: because I think like he's it's funny because his stories 198 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: are so dark and muscular, but he's such a sweet, 199 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: kind gentle man. 200 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: When we come back, that opens up about the stakes 201 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: of speaking up in Hollywood and taking a stand on injustice. 202 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: Right now, I run into people in our industry, colleagues, 203 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: actor colleagues of mine who get you don't want to 204 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 3: rock the boat. 205 00:11:50,040 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: Stay with us. Yes, hey, we're back with actor Rawud Gustio. 206 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: Before the break, he told us about filming the scene, 207 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: one of the darkest scenes he's ever filmed in his 208 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: entire career. We're going to pick up our conversation talking 209 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: about the latest show he's on HBO's task. So, what 210 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: has it been like to be in a show that 211 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: is getting like Hella talked about mm hmm, people are 212 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: reviewing it. It's like the thing you got to binge. 213 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: What's that experience been like for you right now. 214 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: It's like you don't have to prove yourself as much 215 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: because you're part of something that has a kind of 216 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: cultural cachet that's numbers. It's not just the quality of 217 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: the work, but it's the number of people that are 218 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 3: seeing it. Because I'm proud a lot of a lot 219 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 3: of the work that I've done, but none of the 220 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: work that I've been done has been seen at this magnitude. 221 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 3: So there's a power and that and I don't take 222 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 3: it lightly. I've been getting messages from friends from all 223 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: walks of life, from people back home in South Texas, 224 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 3: people I went to college with in Boston, my wife's 225 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 3: family in Portugal, you know, people in Miami, people from 226 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 3: all over the you know, all over the place. 227 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: So you talk about like the freedom of this moment 228 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: as an actor being seen, the attention, etc. It's also 229 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: happening at a time when artists, actors freedom of speech, 230 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: like almost like the more public you are, the more 231 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: possibility of you coming under attack. Jimmy Kimmel, what's going 232 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: on for you as you're seeing what's happening in the 233 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: world of the arts, and as a Latino man from 234 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: South Texas, it's. 235 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 3: My job to speak out for those who can't. It's 236 00:13:55,840 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: funny because I run into people in our industry, colleagues, 237 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 3: actor colleagues of mine who gets. 238 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: Don't want to rock the boat. 239 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: That's the wait, wait, get dude, I haven't heard that 240 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: one in a long time. They want to make the 241 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: party peaceful. 242 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: And it's you know, Latino artists, people who I care 243 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 3: a lot about. But I just don't subscribe to that. 244 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: You know, I grew up on bad brains in the 245 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 3: clash And you know it's funny, man. I like Range 246 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 3: against the Machine, the rock band debuted when I was 247 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 3: in high school and I was playing in bands at 248 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: the time, And I think about all the young men 249 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: who were listening to Zach de Larocha when we were 250 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: all teenagers, and it baffles me that a lot of 251 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: those young men grew up to be fascists or pro fascists. 252 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: All they heard was fuck you, I won't do what 253 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: you tell me. They didn't hear the rest of the song, 254 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 3: you know, they they weren't listening to Zach Delta Watch 255 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: has other lyrics and like. 256 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: I just don't. Yeah. 257 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 3: So I come from a long lineage of artists who 258 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 3: speak out, speaking of Mark Ruffalo. 259 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: Right, I mean you were. Even though you didn't shoot 260 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: any scenes with Mark Ruffalo in task, the two of 261 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: you are connected now in a way, and he is 262 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: the most outspoken. 263 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And then as I continued to follow his career 264 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 3: and I saw how how outspoken he was, he inspired 265 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: me in new ways. 266 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: So you're feeling inspired politically to be even more honest 267 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: and vocal because of someone like. 268 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: Mark Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. 269 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: But at the same time, so the guys that you're 270 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: talking about that you were growing up with, who were 271 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: listening to rage against the machine Latino. 272 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I grew up in South Texas. 273 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: It's like predominantly imagine, So what what are you hearing? 274 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: Because the numbers are showing that even though they overwhelmingly 275 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: the Latino men in that region South Texas went for 276 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, that there some softening there. What are you hearing? 277 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: What are you seeing? What do you understanding about? 278 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 3: I think that, you know, the scary part about fascism 279 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: is that if people can join the dominant party in 280 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 3: any way, they will at the end of the day. 281 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: That's like and I think that's what we're seeing in 282 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: South Texas. I grew up with a commemorative plate of 283 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: JFK in my dad's office. My dad wasn't even an 284 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: American citizen when JFK was president. He didn't even live 285 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 3: in the United States when JFK was president. But JFK 286 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: meant something to Mexicans, especially Mexicans on the border. 287 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: And you know, we are like a very familial culture. 288 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: This current like. 289 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 3: Regime that spouts a lot of quote unquote family values 290 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 3: I think has appealed to a lot of Latinos, and they, 291 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 3: in my opinion, don't know how. 292 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 2: How deep they are. 293 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: I know that you don't spend a lot of time 294 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: back where you grew up in South Texas, and I 295 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: know you're super busy, right, Like we had to wait 296 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: for weeks to try to just get a couple of hours. 297 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: But I could see a situation where Raoul Castillo returns 298 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: to South Texas. Actually the propongo I would actually go 299 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: down with you and interview you in front of a 300 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: live audience and watch how many people come to see 301 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: you because you are a megastar. I mean, would you. 302 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: I mean, you're like, but I'm an artist, I'm an actor, 303 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: Like I don't really like talking publicly. But I had 304 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: this vision of like lets get people would listen to you. 305 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: You are from there. 306 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 3: I think in new ways people are becoming aware of 307 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: me down there. I think some people have been following 308 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 3: me for a long time or and more people throughout 309 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 3: the time have caught on. And then with Task and 310 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 3: even with Hand that Rocks the Cradle that came out 311 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: this month, that was also there was a lot of 312 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 3: people in tell Texas watching that movie, which is really exciting. 313 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: I think they would listen. 314 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, any opportunity I get to go home is very 315 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 3: meaningful for me. 316 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: Over We'll be right back. Hey, we're back. And here's 317 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: the last part of my conversation with He tells me 318 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: why he always wants to surround himself with matriarchs. Then 319 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: the Rocks of the Cradle reboot also very Latino. Yes, right, 320 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: you play the husband, Miguel Morales. Tell me a little 321 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: bit about why you were drawn to this particular film. 322 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 3: Michel Garsabera, the director of the film, is an artist 323 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 3: that I think the world of these young women who 324 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 3: were experiencing these psychotic breakdowns, and the world is telling 325 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 3: them that they're just crazy, and they know truthfully that 326 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 3: they're not crazy. That's something sinister and otherworldly is happening 327 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 3: to them. And I'm always paying attention to filmmakers coming 328 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: out of Mexico because I think, you know, we I 329 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 3: think we both know there's a lot of great stuff 330 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: coming out in the last thirty years. And then, you know, 331 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 3: my agents told me about this reboot of Handed Rocks 332 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 3: of Cradle was being helmed by the director of Wesceta 333 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 3: and would I be interested in meeting with her? And 334 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 3: I said absolutely, so she had seen my work and 335 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: we just met as kind of equals and got along 336 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 3: really well. 337 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: And I love the script. 338 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: Also, Okay, I don't watch The Walking Dead. I don't 339 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: like it's too fun, it's too just too scary for me. 340 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: But congratulations because now you're also gonna be a series regular. 341 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: Thank you so huge. 342 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. But I feel like Raoul, like when I watch 343 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: you as an actor, I'm just gonna be honest, because 344 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: I always am. I'm like, yes, Raoul is doing amazing work, 345 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 1: Yes he's getting recognized, et cetera. But when is Rao 346 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: We're going to be able to play the leading man, 347 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: Like when is Raul Castillo're gonna have his star moment? 348 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: Not off on episode four? 349 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 3: I feel proud that I honed my teeth on character roles, 350 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: so to speak. But even you know, even my character 351 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 3: Onlooking was romantically. That's what I always love about Richie 352 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 3: is like, and not that a leading man is necessarily romantically, 353 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 3: but that was, you know, even though I wasn't the 354 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 3: lead on that show for me, Whichie was a romantic. 355 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: Lead, and many people of both sexes did completely fall 356 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: in love with you because of that. 357 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:14,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 358 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I feel like I've I've been able to 359 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 3: sprinkle leading man in there throughout my career, and I 360 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:27,239 Speaker 3: I keep hoping that the roles will come through. I 361 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 3: sort of thumb my nose at the American theater people 362 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 3: who ask me from time to time when they find 363 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 3: out that I do theater or I did theater, they'll say, well, 364 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 3: do you want to do theater again? And I a 365 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 3: couple of years ago I started saying, well, no, because 366 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 3: they're not writing the roles for me, the leading man 367 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 3: for me in the theater. And no one needs to 368 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 3: see my Stanley Kowalski. 369 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: I would love to see your Stanley, but you know, 370 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to do a classic. I would love to. 371 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: See yeah, you know, but like, when is someone going 372 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 3: to write like an original role and there I say 373 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 3: that's worthy of my talent. And in the case of film, 374 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 3: you know, I have several projects that where I would 375 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: be leading, where we just cannot get the financing for 376 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 3: and doesn't stop me. We're still trying and we will 377 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 3: get there. I know we will. 378 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: So so finally I will to that young Latino actor 379 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: in McAllen, in Tulsa, Jackson, Mississippi, Omaha, Nebraska, all places 380 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: where young Latinos are living, arriving and wanting to be actors. 381 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: What do you say to those young men in this 382 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: moment in history. 383 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 2: I mean, the thing that. 384 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 3: Always worked for me, I think is that I listened 385 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 3: to the women in my life. I always surrounded myself 386 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: with women, matriarchs, the esprima's friends who taught me to 387 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 3: be a better man. I think young men should, you know, 388 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 3: need to listen to the women around them and surround 389 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 3: themselves with caring, loving, smart women, nurturing women and men 390 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 3: you know, and their and male friends that nurture and 391 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 3: love them just as much. I think that's important. You know, 392 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 3: sometimes it's Latinos in this industry. I feel like there's 393 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: like this older generation that came up when times were 394 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 3: really hard, and people there's tradition of not supporting one 395 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 3: another because everyone's struggling for I try to surround myself 396 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 3: with people who lift me up and I trim out 397 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 3: the people who don't. 398 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: I'm so happy you congratulate on all of it, and 399 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: thank you for being just a great artist. 400 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 3: Thank you for celebrating. Thank you for being a light 401 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 3: always in the dark for us. You've always been and 402 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 3: you continue to be, and I appreciate that. 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