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Speaker 2: must win situation tonight for the Bears. If they don't win,
Speaker 2: no meet Friday for Paulie for a little while the Bears.
Speaker 2: I wonder if this is going to be brought up
Speaker 2: by their head coach, maybe GM, maybe ownership. You know,
Speaker 2: we got to get you guys motivated. You guys realize
Speaker 2: that Paul Pats will.
Speaker 1: Not get to meet Friday of you lose.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 1: We're playing for Paulie.
Speaker 4: Nothing else is working.
Speaker 2: It for paul Yeah, the Commanders are six point favorites
Speaker 2: at home. Todd already has Friday Mornings headlines after last
Speaker 2: night's game or tonight's game to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, Okay, if the Bears win.
Speaker 5: How oll did that happen?
Speaker 6: Sam?
Speaker 1: Hell?
Speaker 3: DC fans can barely look Washington their hands of winless
Speaker 3: season meet Friday, It just got snarkier.
Speaker 4: That's all the Bears win.
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: Okay, right, yeah, okay, now you save the good wins though.
Speaker 4: Your commanders win. Command this.
Speaker 3: I fields. QB's days are numbered, and DC United weren't
Speaker 3: gonna let that team beat us. Those are possible headlines
Speaker 3: from your DC and your Chicago papers, which they would
Speaker 3: probably not use.
Speaker 7: Oh yes, how can you do those again tomorrow morning?
Speaker 7: So I can feel better about my dad.
Speaker 3: Also convinced the Bears are definitely gonna lose.
Speaker 1: Psychological things, psychogy, it's good.
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, yeah, they're not gonna win. I don't
Speaker 2: see them winning. I go nice try.
Speaker 5: If I were betting, I bet money, I would have.
Speaker 1: Bet you take the Bears in six.
Speaker 7: No, no, not with the defensive line that they have Washington,
Speaker 7: I would have taken. I would have taken Denver last week.
Speaker 7: I think I would take in Denver at halftime last week.
Speaker 7: They're awful, don't two good quarters doesn't fix anything?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Denver when it was twenty eight to seven Chicago.
Speaker 5: I thought it was in question.
Speaker 8: Yes, see, I think the Bear's my win tonight.
Speaker 2: Well, they have a chance since they're playing tonight, would
Speaker 2: you bet on them.
Speaker 1: See to win outright?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, what do you go? What are you
Speaker 1: willing to bet?
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean it's not crazy to say the Bears could
Speaker 1: win tonight. All right, you know what I will?
Speaker 8: I will if the Bears lose tonight, I'll give up
Speaker 8: meet Friday tomorrow with paul But that's it.
Speaker 1: No, I need Paula to have a standalone.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd like to.
Speaker 8: Why don't I just put money on it and see
Speaker 8: if I win?
Speaker 2: Well, how about we get Dylan to come out. We
Speaker 2: have the gambling podcast later today. Maybe, well we'll see
Speaker 2: what Dylan's betting, and then maybe you and Dylan can
Speaker 2: have a friendly wager.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I won last week.
Speaker 2: So ill oh Dylan, Dylan says, now all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: he's a gambling expert. But you can hear the podcast,
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick takes a gamble. That'll be after the show.
Speaker 2: Shan Irving Bad Larry and Dylan the graphics guy. All right,
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Speaker 8: I put up there since we had a little bit
Speaker 8: of a debate about it. Seahawks safety Jamal Adams should
Speaker 8: be fine for his sideline behavior or was concussed not
Speaker 8: his fault?
Speaker 2: Okay, just to see he apologized, right, That was a
Speaker 2: nice of one. I think he probably had to apologize.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like when your parents go. Now, you
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Speaker 2: in about twenty minutes from now. Can you buy a
Speaker 2: hat of a baseball team even if you're not a fan?
Speaker 1: Of the baseball.
Speaker 9: Team, Marvin, those are all my hats.
Speaker 1: You're not a Toronto Blue Jay fan. You just love the.
Speaker 9: Blue Jay hat top five logo. Yes, okay, the one
Speaker 9: from the early nineties.
Speaker 7: Okay, yes, okay, yes, Paul Marvin, Marvin's a San Francisco Giants.
Speaker 5: Are you a real fan or just kind of a
Speaker 5: casual fan Giants?
Speaker 1: No, he's a nine or nine?
Speaker 7: Oh I thought for baseball? Oh it's Toronto. It was
Speaker 7: his favorite team.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't have a faceball.
Speaker 9: I don't have a favorite team. I have favorite players
Speaker 9: growing up, a favorite hat.
Speaker 7: Then let's change a question, because Marvin's about the fashion
Speaker 7: side of it. Let's say you have a baseball team,
Speaker 7: you're entrenched, and you've always liked them your whole life.
Speaker 7: Can you for rooting reasons, fashion reasons by the hat
Speaker 7: of another team?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 8: See, okay, So like I grew up a Yankee fan, right,
Speaker 8: and then over the course of doing this job, I
Speaker 8: would say that my Yankee fandom has significantly waned right
Speaker 8: where it's not even remotely close to appointment viewing for me.
Speaker 8: But now I'm kind of like, like Marvin's hat the
Speaker 8: other day was awesome with the Blue Jays logo. Right,
Speaker 8: I'm kind of jumping on this postseason of like, let's
Speaker 8: see the Orioles get some love whatever. So maybe I
Speaker 8: found myself yesterday looking at Orioles hats online. I'm like,
Speaker 8: I don't know that I could do that. I don't
Speaker 8: know that I could buy an Orioles hat after growing
Speaker 8: up a Yankee fan.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think you'd wear the Oriole hat to
Speaker 2: Yankee Stadium. No, no, Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna wear it, because it's a cool looking hat.
Speaker 8: And I only really wear hats like when I go
Speaker 8: to like my kid's soccer game, or I'm cutting my grass.
Speaker 8: That's really like the only time I'm mo owing the lawn. Oh,
Speaker 8: then I'll throw on whatever hat I like. But those
Speaker 8: are good looking hats.
Speaker 7: Okay, I'm gonna say no on this one. Because I'm
Speaker 7: a Cub fan, I think i'd be allowed. I like
Speaker 7: the Twins. They're kind of a fun story.
Speaker 5: Like their uniforms.
Speaker 7: Twins are not in any way competition to the Cubs.
Speaker 7: They're al NL. The Baltimore Oriols are in the same
Speaker 7: division as the Yankees. I think that's the no go.
Speaker 7: Like I couldn't buy a man a Cincinnati Reds hat.
Speaker 7: As a Cubs fan, I'm perfectly fine. I think the
Speaker 7: franchise is cool, the Reds, but I can't buy a
Speaker 7: Reds hat.
Speaker 5: I could buy anything else.
Speaker 2: Can you buy a hat of a team and it's
Speaker 2: they're not threatening?
Speaker 1: Like you just like the hat?
Speaker 2: Could you if they were in the division but they're
Speaker 2: non threatening?
Speaker 6: Could you do that? Yes?
Speaker 7: Mark?
Speaker 4: You know what? In football?
Speaker 9: Since I'm a big Niners fan, I have a Tampa
Speaker 9: Bay Buccaneers to throwback the creamsicle. Okay, they're as far
Speaker 9: as far away as you can get, right because they
Speaker 9: don't play them, They're not a threat or anything like that.
Speaker 9: I can't wear like a Rams or a Seahawks or that'sters.
Speaker 8: So what if it went with your outfit?
Speaker 2: Well that like you're really big on your outfit, Like
Speaker 2: your shoes have to match your hat.
Speaker 9: From the bottom up. Yeah, so the shoes that I
Speaker 9: have go with the go with the hats. When I
Speaker 9: bought it, I was like that blue Jay's hat new
Speaker 9: era cap dot Com. I'm there, get it on there like.
Speaker 2: The Twins, you know, the Twin Cities hat. You know,
Speaker 2: I grew up loving those Twins teams back in the
Speaker 2: mid mid sixties, Harmon killerbrew Tony Leva, those kind of
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame carew Burt Blyleven and you know, the
Speaker 2: hat was pretty cool. Cardinals always love the Cardinal logos.
Speaker 8: There's certain logos that are just iconic, right, that are great, Like.
Speaker 1: You can't argue with what like the Yankee logo.
Speaker 2: You may not like the Yankees, but that Yankee logo
Speaker 2: and that was created by the guy who created Tiffany's
Speaker 2: so it's I mean, that's high end designed there when
Speaker 2: that was designed back in whatever, the nineteen tens or twenties.
Speaker 1: Yes, Marv, the.
Speaker 9: Yankees and the Raiders, I feel like those are two
Speaker 9: logos or two uniforms. And the Dodgers they should never,
Speaker 9: not ever in your life, never, three hundred years from now,
Speaker 9: they would have the exact same uniforms.
Speaker 4: Those things are perfect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Like the Dodger uniform. Growing up in Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: you know that was our rivals, them and the Pirates.
Speaker 2: But man, I'd see those Dodger uniforms and I'd God,
Speaker 2: they are gorgeous.
Speaker 9: It felt like a different color of white. It felt
Speaker 9: like a different white. It felt like heaven White, like, yes, yes, you're.
Speaker 5: Right, and they get a squint.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, heaven White.
Speaker 6: Yes, that's one of the cray White's.
Speaker 1: I like that. Yes, yes.
Speaker 7: When I was a kid, I always looked at Steve
Speaker 7: Garvey when he was on the Dodgers and guys like him,
Speaker 7: and said, that's a superstar. That's a baseball start, because
Speaker 7: he looked like the part and it's it's Hollywood, it's La.
Speaker 7: I was wondering, Marvin, what can you imagine? Like what
Speaker 7: if Nike and New Era did a partnership where you
Speaker 7: bought the shoes and the hat simultaneously, So if you
Speaker 7: were a La Dodgers fan, you could buy a New
Speaker 7: Era La Dodgers hat and a pair of Nike shoes
Speaker 7: that matched one.
Speaker 4: I must stop either just take my money now, just
Speaker 4: take my money now.
Speaker 5: But they have to have thought of this before, like
Speaker 5: if you partnered.
Speaker 7: I think New Era is the biggest hat company and
Speaker 7: Nike's the biggest shoe company. You buy packaged shirts and hats,
Speaker 7: so if you're a Bears fan, you get blue with
Speaker 7: orange trim shoes and a blue hat with a little
Speaker 7: orange sea and it's you. They dropped the price little
Speaker 7: because you'reuying.
Speaker 1: Do you want to size that you're a Bears fan?
Speaker 5: I guess too, right now?
Speaker 8: Man, Yeah, okay, forty seven hats.
Speaker 7: Let's say any team, let's say it was out whatever
Speaker 7: combo teams.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I feel like that's old of me though, that
Speaker 8: I like the forty seven brand hats because that you
Speaker 8: could still cuff there.
Speaker 1: I do like that.
Speaker 8: That's uh, that's the I can't go with the I
Speaker 8: can't do the flat bill.
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 1: I just I'm not. I'm too old to do that.
Speaker 8: So odd how it looks so good on some As
Speaker 8: soon as it comes on my head, it is the
Speaker 8: dumbest thing.
Speaker 1: It could be the exact same hat.
Speaker 8: As soon as you put it on my head, it
Speaker 8: is the dumbest thing you've ever seen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like the Leo DiCaprio.
Speaker 9: Every time you see him ot in public, he's got
Speaker 9: like those forty seven type like.
Speaker 4: Really, yeah, yeah, I can't see any of my girlfriends.
Speaker 2: We we probably have some must win situations coming up
Speaker 2: this weekend in the NFL. Here's Joe Burrow of the Bengals.
Speaker 10: Doesn't feel like a must win game to you guys
Speaker 10: in the.
Speaker 8: Locker room, yes, a lot of different reasons.
Speaker 1: You know, we got to go in and get a
Speaker 1: win on the road.
Speaker 6: We haven't had a road win yet. We've we've prided
Speaker 6: ourselves on the road.
Speaker 8: We're playing a really good football team, good defense, good scheme.
Speaker 1: You know, we need it from morale. We need it
Speaker 1: for the rankings, we need it for everything.
Speaker 2: Bengals playing Cardinals at the Cardinals, really good football team.
Speaker 2: Ravens Steelers? Is that the best rivalry in football? I
Speaker 2: don't know how many rivalries we have Green Bay and Chicago,
Speaker 2: but it's not a rivalry because Chicago's not good. They
Speaker 2: haven't been good like historically I guess Washington and Dallas
Speaker 2: used to be.
Speaker 8: It feels like the forty nine Ers have a lot
Speaker 8: of good rivalry games right now.
Speaker 2: But what is the best rivalry in football? It feels
Speaker 2: like it's Steelers Ravens in the division. Those games are
Speaker 2: always as slug fest, Yeah, pulling.
Speaker 5: I think that's what it is.
Speaker 7: If those games feel like there's going to be a
Speaker 7: chippy play or a cheap shot, or something's gonna happen
Speaker 7: like an instant, they actually inherit. The not liking each other.
Speaker 7: When I was a kid, the Washington Redskins and Dallas
Speaker 7: Cowboys felt like that when they would be on Monday
Speaker 7: at football when I was ten, eleven, twelve thirteen, it
Speaker 7: felt like, Oh, these two teams, these two franchises, the
Speaker 7: fan bases hate each other.
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask rich Andson the must win situation
Speaker 2: when we talk to him coming on. By the way,
Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey and Jason Kelsey, they had this to say
Speaker 2: on their podcast about the coverage of Taylor Swift.
Speaker 11: I think it's fun when they show who else at
Speaker 11: the game, you know. I think I think it brings
Speaker 11: a little bit more to the atmosphere, brings a little
Speaker 11: bit more to what you're watching.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I think.
Speaker 6: They're overdoing it.
Speaker 11: They're overdoing it a little bit for sure, especially my
Speaker 11: situation right, I think they're just trying to have fun
Speaker 11: with it, and a lot of a lot of the
Speaker 11: people watching go ahead, let's hear it.
Speaker 10: I just think the NFL is not used to celebrities
Speaker 10: coming to the games, like basketball has to figure it out.
Speaker 10: They're all court side, they're sitting there. They show them
Speaker 10: once or twice and then and then they but they
Speaker 10: get back to the game.
Speaker 4: NFL is like, look.
Speaker 1: At all these DAYLFT celebrities of the game.
Speaker 6: Keep showing them, showing them, show them.
Speaker 10: Show dude, listen, you show them once, let them know
Speaker 10: they're there. Maybe after a touchdown you get a little clip.
Speaker 6: But it can't can't be overboard with it.
Speaker 10: People are there to watch the game, right.
Speaker 1: Okay, Travis and Jason Kelsey.
Speaker 2: First of all, who's they the NFL isn't these are
Speaker 2: the networks that are over covering Taylor Swift. I mean,
Speaker 2: are you calling out the director at NBC or Fox,
Speaker 2: the producers there, because those are the people who are
Speaker 2: orchestrating this And did you see the numbers of people
Speaker 2: watching the ratings with something like this? Now we're covering
Speaker 2: the coverage of the coverage of Taylor Swift Classic Story
Speaker 2: arc of.
Speaker 5: Course cover three defense.
Speaker 1: Yes, Like, okay, who's like, who's to blame for this?
Speaker 2: It's you know, the the NFL loves the fact that
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift's going to show up there, and then they'll
Speaker 2: try to accommodate the best they can. But you also
Speaker 2: had other stars there and Nope, they weren't really mentioned.
Speaker 2: Nobody cared that Hugh Jackman was there. Ryan Reynolds or
Speaker 2: Blake Lively. They didn't care it was Taylor Swift. But
Speaker 2: to complain about the coverage of the coverage seems hypocritical.
Speaker 2: It's like, we're not asking for it, but they're giving
Speaker 2: it to us. And then they see the numbers and
Speaker 2: now they go, let's give you even more because more
Speaker 2: people are tuning in.
Speaker 3: Yes, Tom and everyone that says they don't like it.
Speaker 3: You know, we all play producer director sometimes when you're
Speaker 3: watching an game, as soon as Travis Kelsey gets to
Speaker 3: touch that or does something well and they don't go
Speaker 3: right to Taylor Swift, it's going to hit our mind like,
Speaker 3: this would be a good time to take a nice
Speaker 3: shot at Taylor Swift up in the suite celebrating and
Speaker 3: banging on the window.
Speaker 1: But j you're not doing that.
Speaker 2: Jason Kelcey should ask his brother, Travis. You're the reason
Speaker 2: why there's over coverage of Taylor Swift. You started all
Speaker 2: of this. It's like they're blaming other people and like,
Speaker 2: what are you doing? Ask your brother.
Speaker 1: He's right there. He's the one who drove away in
Speaker 1: the convertible with her. I didn't.
Speaker 5: Come on, why are they so interested?
Speaker 6: Come on?
Speaker 8: Man, I just want my privacy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want my privacy while I get in this convertible.
Speaker 5: But the most famous person in the world, I want
Speaker 5: to quietly date Taylor Swift.
Speaker 8: But that being said, what I mean it is true.
Speaker 8: It is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, but this is this is.
Speaker 8: The backswing of the anti Taylor Swift coverage where it's.
Speaker 1: Like, I just want to watch the game.
Speaker 8: That's social media Now was like it was all pictures
Speaker 8: of her. Now it's like, this is the meeting to
Speaker 8: the women who really like the game.
Speaker 1: We don't care about Taylor Swift.
Speaker 8: And now that you know, the Kelseys are jumping on
Speaker 8: the like, yeah, come on, this is overboard.
Speaker 1: But they he started it. Travis Kelsey started this.
Speaker 8: I mean you saw, like almost immediately overnight his social
Speaker 8: media numbers went through the roof, Like have you picked
Speaker 8: up three hundred thousand new Instagram.
Speaker 2: Subscribers, followers, whatever, And he's the top selling Jersey now yeah,
Speaker 2: right right right, so he's benefited from this.
Speaker 1: You can't be complaining about it. You started it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you started it.
Speaker 2: No, you started it new album.
Speaker 1: I'm fine with it, by the way, I'm okay, I mean,
Speaker 1: would I rather see that, or Jerry Jones, have somebody
Speaker 1: clean his glasses? Well, I mean they cut away to
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones all the time, Robert Kraft always, Jeffrey Lurie
Speaker 1: always yes Mart.
Speaker 9: But I think a lot of football fans don't realize
Speaker 9: NBC and ESPN and all these different networks they're putting
Speaker 9: on a TV show and if the biggest start is
Speaker 9: a guest starring role on whatever big sitcom, they're going
Speaker 9: to go to that person. So don't act surprise when
Speaker 9: the biggest star on Earth is there and you're like,
Speaker 9: why are they going to her?
Speaker 2: So many times, well, remember when Fox would invite you know,
Speaker 2: some sitcom or some show party of five, and they'd
Speaker 2: be you know, hey, there's the the cast a party
Speaker 2: of five at the Yankee game, Like oh yeah, he
Speaker 2: got surprised by that.
Speaker 1: You didn't know they were there.
Speaker 8: And that's like written into their contract of like you
Speaker 8: will go to game five of the World Series to
Speaker 8: promote this show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, Katie Holmes is there, Matthew Fox.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Party of five And he's wearing a credential and
Speaker 7: he's got a hat on that still got the tag
Speaker 7: on it because they gave him eight minutes earlier.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the program's upside down. Has no idea what he's
Speaker 2: even doing there. He doesn't even follow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't know the rotation.
Speaker 5: How did Nev Campbell get third base seats?
Speaker 4: Party of five?
Speaker 2: I wish I would have gotten a third show? Was
Speaker 2: never a party, oh, Nev Campbell.
Speaker 8: Show was never a party. It was a pressing show.
Speaker 2: Party of five was Oh yeah, I never saw an episode.
Speaker 8: It was a very depressing show.
Speaker 1: Was was Johnny Depp on that?
Speaker 4: Or was he?
Speaker 2: No? That was twenty one jumps on One Jump Street,
Speaker 2: and then there's Dawson Creek. I didn't see an episode
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 5: Party five.
Speaker 7: One of the reasons that might have been a little
Speaker 7: depressing is that their whole gist of the show is
Speaker 7: that their orphans whose parents died in a car crash.
Speaker 7: We'll learned that in the first five minutes, So it
Speaker 7: was not less of a party and more just five.
Speaker 11: Right, right, right.
Speaker 8: My point stands that show was never a party.
Speaker 1: It was highly depressed.
Speaker 5: It I never partied.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me take a break here. Rich Eisen's going
Speaker 2: to join us from London. We'll take a break back
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Speaker 2: of underrated, a little bit maybe forgotten. Tomorrow it's emo
Speaker 2: pop punk theme.
Speaker 4: With the music. Yep, all of that emo pop punk.
Speaker 9: And real emo pop punk fans are going to be
Speaker 9: probably so disappointed in our choices. Okay, yeah, stuff that
Speaker 9: was played on like MTV at nauseum.
Speaker 2: Probably that'll be tomorrow's theme. By the way, the stakes
Speaker 2: are high for tonight's game. Pun intended Paul as the Bears.
Speaker 2: If the Bears lose and he gets no meat Friday
Speaker 2: tomorrow and then the following Friday as well, you'll miss out.
Speaker 2: You don't get reinstated until the Bears win a football game.
Speaker 2: So this goes back to last week's bet with the
Speaker 2: Broncos and the Bears. Rich Eyesen, NFL network host and
Speaker 2: host of The Rich Isien Show on ROKU and NFL
Speaker 2: Game Day Morning, also the Rich Isien Show Monday through
Speaker 2: Fridays at noon eastern non Roku. He'll be on the
Speaker 2: call Jags Bills in London. Kickoff will be nine to
Speaker 2: thirty a m. Eastern and Ricardo joins us from London.
Speaker 2: How long do you think you would be in London
Speaker 2: before you would pick up a British accent?
Speaker 12: I think you know, I'm I'm gonna have to stay
Speaker 12: for a while for that. I still have the I
Speaker 12: still have the New York accent in me, Dan, you
Speaker 12: just have to cut me off in traffic for that
Speaker 12: to happen. I just got to London about three hours ago,
Speaker 12: so cheery, Oh mate, you know, I'm just it's gonna
Speaker 12: have to. By the way, it sounds like Paul's gonna
Speaker 12: have to turn vegan based on what I just turned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the I mean, this is a pretty big bet
Speaker 2: that they put a lot on the line with me
Speaker 2: Friday and then the Bears. I don't know if you're
Speaker 2: covering this on NFL Game Day morning, but it seems
Speaker 2: like it's a pretty big deal that the Bears against
Speaker 2: the Commanders.
Speaker 6: Who do you like to I like.
Speaker 12: The Commanders, Dan, I'm going on a very thick limb
Speaker 12: on that one. I like Sam Howell in his bed
Speaker 12: head and the rest of this team certainly against the
Speaker 12: Bears on a short week where where I don't know
Speaker 12: what in the world they're They're the most disappointing team
Speaker 12: of twenty twenty three as far as I'm concerned. There's
Speaker 12: another zero and four team. I know there's a lot
Speaker 12: of one in three teams that might take that, but
Speaker 12: for them to stick with justin Fields, get them, DJ Moore,
Speaker 12: make these changes and now come in tonight oh and
Speaker 12: four short week looking at oh to five, that's didn't
Speaker 12: I didn't expect that to happen.
Speaker 2: But see I look at the Bengals is more disappointing
Speaker 2: than the Bears because the expectation was the Bengals could
Speaker 2: go to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 12: Yeah, but I guess the caveat there would be the
Speaker 12: injury that Burrow suffered in the summer and them having
Speaker 12: to make the decision to sit him or not sort
Speaker 12: of the Jamar Chase plan to keep him out for
Speaker 12: the first month of the season, and now they have
Speaker 12: no choice. Looking at the first month of the season,
Speaker 12: where you have to figure would they have gone one
Speaker 12: in three with Jake Browning, you know, And so here
Speaker 12: they are with that horse sort of out of the barn.
Speaker 12: He doesn't have an injury designation this week, So maybe
Speaker 12: they're they're speaking it into existence because he certainly doesn't
Speaker 12: look the same to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said this a couple of weeks. If the
Speaker 2: doctor said he will be measurably better than sitting down
Speaker 2: until the bye week, and you know, maybe he could
Speaker 2: be healthier now. But you watch them play and he's
Speaker 2: holding them back. He can't throw the ball over ten yards,
Speaker 2: he's not. I mean, most of his attempts are under
Speaker 2: ten yards, and that's a pretty good explosive offense and
Speaker 2: you're not able to utilize that. So would you get
Speaker 2: in a hole in your division? Absolutely if he didn't
Speaker 2: play until the bye week. But is it going to
Speaker 2: matter if after the bye week in that division? You know,
Speaker 2: Baltimore might be the class of that division. And I
Speaker 2: just don't think playing Joe Burrow. Now you've got to
Speaker 2: go to Arizona. Arizona is frisky, so they are no
Speaker 2: guarantee that they're going to win that game.
Speaker 12: And the Ravens, if they beat the Steelers, they're not
Speaker 12: only on top of the division with three division wins,
Speaker 12: all of them would be on the road. They've already
Speaker 12: won at Cleveland and at Cincinnati, and this would give
Speaker 12: him a win at Pitchsburg and a huge leg up
Speaker 12: just five weeks in. But listen, you know this is
Speaker 12: a wide open conference. I think it's a wide open league.
Speaker 12: You know, obviously you got the Niners and the Cowboys
Speaker 12: on Sunday night just to see if the Cowboys can
Speaker 12: measure up to a team like San Francisco. But I
Speaker 12: really do think it's anybody's league for a great handful
Speaker 12: of teams.
Speaker 2: Dan, you got an idea of who the Jags are
Speaker 2: and who the Bills are going into this game on
Speaker 2: Saturday morning.
Speaker 12: I don't have. I have a much better sense of
Speaker 12: who the Bills are. I mean, you've seen it the
Speaker 12: last three weeks, and the Jaguars, I just don't know.
Speaker 12: We're seeing them Saturday morning for the first time, and
Speaker 12: they'll have a significant advantage of being the first team
Speaker 12: to play a second consecutive week in London, and the
Speaker 12: Bills are getting in today, they're landing just now, So
Speaker 12: that is an advantage just in in terms of the game,
Speaker 12: but in terms of Jacksonville and who they are, No, Sir,
Speaker 12: I don't have that sense. But the Bills have won
Speaker 12: three straight games in boat rate fast both boat race
Speaker 12: fashion and I do believe that they are the best
Speaker 12: team right now in the AFC. You want to call
Speaker 12: them the most complete team, the team that's got a
Speaker 12: leg up and pro bowlers all over the all over
Speaker 12: the lot, And certainly if they played the Chiefs right now,
Speaker 12: I think the Chiefs would have a significant disadvantage.
Speaker 2: Rich Eisen will be on the call coming up on
Speaker 2: Sunday morning, the Bills and Jags kickoff at nine thirty
Speaker 2: am Eastern. Also his show Monday through Friday, The Richeisen
Speaker 2: Show at noon Eastern on ROKU. Most valuable player on
Speaker 2: the Niners team is who.
Speaker 12: I'm gonna I'm gonna go off the board here, Dan,
Speaker 12: I'm gonna say b Rock Party. I'm going brock Purty here,
Speaker 12: not just because of the way he's playing, but because
Speaker 12: of the way that he's playing. You don't hear the
Speaker 12: words Trey and Lance ever anymore. End of story. Whatever
Speaker 12: the Niners gave up for Trey Lance, whatever they couldn't
Speaker 12: get out of Trey Lance, Normally that would send the
Speaker 12: coach and the general manager to the unemployment line. Instead,
Speaker 12: they both got contract extensions. That's because brock Purty plays
Speaker 12: the way that he plays. Also, the value is not
Speaker 12: just figurative, it's literal the amount of money that they
Speaker 12: get to pay so many others because of the contract.
Speaker 12: He's the last pick in the draft doing this Dan,
Speaker 12: and so he is terrific. And I know McCaffrey's scoring
Speaker 12: like crazy, and I know Fred Warner and Bosa are
Speaker 12: doing what they're doing on that side of the ball.
Speaker 12: But brock Purty is just spectacular.
Speaker 4: And we just so.
Speaker 12: Many people don't believe it because he looks like he's
Speaker 12: going to a civil engineering class instead of calming for
Speaker 12: you and your defense.
Speaker 6: And I think we're going to see it again Sunday night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. He can be the most
Speaker 2: valuable player on his own team. But Christian McCaffrey will
Speaker 2: be in, you know, consideration for the MVP league wise,
Speaker 2: But what kind of numbers. I mean, it's a quarterback award,
Speaker 2: But could you see numbers that if McCaffrey puts up
Speaker 2: this and this, that he could be the MVP.
Speaker 12: I think what you do is, you know, voters will
Speaker 12: just split it. There's an Offensive Player of the Year award,
Speaker 12: and so that's usually the the MVP. It's not a quarterback,
Speaker 12: it's the cop out. It's the cop ound. It's a
Speaker 12: total cop out. But that's the way the voters normally
Speaker 12: do this sort of thing. Hey, listen again, you cannot
Speaker 12: discount the way that Purdy is playing and how it
Speaker 12: has taken the pressure off the lid off. If there
Speaker 12: was such a thing, I don't. I don't think there was,
Speaker 12: because Jed York loves his coach and his general manager
Speaker 12: and for good reasons. But the fact that you know
Speaker 12: Trey Lance, you trade up all that to go take
Speaker 12: somebody third overall, and he's not ready to play, and
Speaker 12: you go ahead and you have Brock Purdy to play.
Speaker 12: Take a look at what the Jets. Zach Wilson was
Speaker 12: taking a pick before Trey Lance, and the Jets are
Speaker 12: hopefully going to get another good game out of Zach.
Speaker 12: Two consecutive games from Zach Wilson of significant leadership and play.
Speaker 12: They haven't had that yet. And the Niners are starting
Speaker 12: four to zher with mister irrelevant if you will, being
Speaker 12: the most relevant player for them. I believe that's, you know,
Speaker 12: and that's fully understanding what McCaffrey's looked like. Eighteen touchdowns
Speaker 12: in his first eighteen games as a Niner that I
Speaker 12: would say is a significant contribution DP.
Speaker 2: We broached this topic yesterday. If I sent Fritzy to
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick's press conference yesterday and he asked the following question.
Speaker 3: Yes, in spite of all the winning and all the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl trophies, what would you say to those who
Speaker 3: say you're on the hot seat right now?
Speaker 6: Bill?
Speaker 2: How do you think Bill? Is that a fair question
Speaker 2: to ask Belichick?
Speaker 6: That? How would you ask it one more time?
Speaker 12: Because you need to really make sure, first of all,
Speaker 12: it's not a yes or no question, which is what
Speaker 12: for some reason everyone asks Bill Belichick about eighty percent
Speaker 12: of the time.
Speaker 6: So that's a that's a good sentence, sentence structure. Give
Speaker 6: it to me one more time.
Speaker 3: In spite of all the winning and all the Super
Speaker 3: Bowls and everything you've accomplished in New England, what would
Speaker 3: you say to those who say you're on the hot
Speaker 3: seat right now with the Patriots?
Speaker 12: Just yeah, I'm just preparing for New Orleans and you
Speaker 12: know I have a tough defense, and you know that's
Speaker 12: for you guys to decide.
Speaker 2: By the way, this is an actual sound. This is
Speaker 2: rich doing, is Bill Belichick?
Speaker 6: Yeah? That was it. Yeah, I thought that's not what
Speaker 6: you didn't want me to role play.
Speaker 1: No, no, we role play, but I didn't know if
Speaker 1: you could we.
Speaker 12: That's basically what his answer would be. I mean, you would,
Speaker 12: you know, you just you know struggles. First of all,
Speaker 12: I think that would lead to what's the over under
Speaker 12: on the number of awkward silent seconds there? I would
Speaker 12: say probably a good four to five. You'd hear room tone,
Speaker 12: you hear a lot of good room tone, you hear
Speaker 12: the buzz of the lights, and maybe some air conditioning events.
Speaker 12: And then he would he would he would answer that way.
Speaker 2: But let's say they went five and twelve. Yeah, now,
Speaker 2: then then what would happen?
Speaker 12: Yeah, I would definitely think that Robert Craft would have
Speaker 12: a conversation with Bill Belichick. That would be a coin
Speaker 12: flip whether they are still employee an employer. That it's
Speaker 12: entirely possible that Belichick would be done in New England
Speaker 12: at five and twelve and going in a completely different direction.
Speaker 2: But how important How important do you think it is
Speaker 2: for Robert Kraft to have Belichick become the all time
Speaker 2: victory leader while being his head coach.
Speaker 6: In New England?
Speaker 12: Oh, I think it's very important. But you know, how
Speaker 12: many times in our in our world do we see,
Speaker 12: you know, teams staying together with their player or coach
Speaker 12: for the sake of a milestone, and it doesn't really
Speaker 12: help things in the long term in the long run.
Speaker 12: So and again, I don't know what Belichick's desire would
Speaker 12: be to stick around there anymore, or what if five
Speaker 12: and twelve season would would lead to for him. Honestly,
Speaker 12: nobody can really read that situation at all. That said,
Speaker 12: they do have some winnable games on the horizon, and
Speaker 12: I just cannot believe the team that we saw get
Speaker 12: eviscerted by the Cowboys is that the way that things
Speaker 12: are going to go. The problem is, though, you know, now,
Speaker 12: to come to think of it, Matt Judon's out and
Speaker 12: so it was their their stud rookie. But put it
Speaker 12: all together, I think there's a good chance they're still
Speaker 12: five hundred in a couple of weeks. Dan, good uh oh,
Speaker 12: I just interrupted your goodbye. I didn't mean to do that, Dan,
Speaker 12: Did I disrupt your flow?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: They're kind of finish your thought and then then I'll
Speaker 1: do it again.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: I asked you if you thought that they were good
Speaker 2: to talk to you? Rich Okay, good to talk to you,
Speaker 2: all right, deep curious all right. Rich Eisen from London.
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Speaker 2: Sunday Night, Dak Prescott the Cowboys take on Nick Bosa
Speaker 2: in the forty nine ers Sunday seven Eastern on NBC
Speaker 2: Telemundo in Peacock. They should at least put in Rock
Speaker 2: Party or Christian McCaffrey's I know it is literally Dak
Speaker 2: Prescott against Nick Bosa, but can't we put Rock Party
Speaker 2: on there up there with Dak Prescott? Who would you
Speaker 2: rather have? You can have Dak Prescott or you can
Speaker 2: have Rock Party. Now, don't we can't factor in the salaries,
Speaker 2: just what you've seen so far? Who would you want
Speaker 2: to be your quarterback? And this isn't for clicks, It's
Speaker 2: just they're facing off against each other, toy. My first
Speaker 2: thought was, perty all right, Seaton O'Connor yeah.
Speaker 1: Brock all day.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, you Brocktober, Are you kidding me? October
Speaker 2: this month, I will say, of all the people to
Speaker 2: be on the Brock Party bandwagon, you were on the
Speaker 2: bandwagon before there was a bandwagon.
Speaker 4: That's my guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my dog. Yeah.
Speaker 2: We should at least be able to get him on
Speaker 2: since you were the one that wanted to go out
Speaker 2: of your way and go see in an Iowa state game.
Speaker 8: I can't even hook up a jersey nothing, no, no, whatsoever,
Speaker 8: not even an autograph.
Speaker 2: Bob Coosey sent you an autograph photo. Rock Perty's too
Speaker 2: busy to send you something.
Speaker 8: Not only did Bob Coozy send me an autograph photo,
Speaker 8: he autographed a picture of me doing an impression of
Speaker 8: him and said, Seaton, thanks and that you know what.
Speaker 8: I forget who sent that to us, but thank you.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 8: It's one of the most amazing things I've ever seen.
Speaker 4: It's awesome.
Speaker 2: Marvin, you're a Niner fan. Dak Prescott, rock Perty Okay, Paulie, can.
Speaker 5: We factor in their ages?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, nothing not right now, No salary, nothing, It's
Speaker 2: just this is your quarterback.
Speaker 1: The rest of the season.
Speaker 7: Rock Party seems to avoid problems. He seems to avoid
Speaker 7: red zone interceptions. Yeah, I'm going Brock.
Speaker 1: You know all right?
Speaker 2: Here's something. The quarterback with the highest passer rating through
Speaker 2: the first ten career starts in NFL history. NFL history.
Speaker 2: One you could get one, you should get. The other
Speaker 2: one you won't get. I have the top three on
Speaker 2: this list. This is the first ten starts of their
Speaker 2: NFL careers, the highest passer rating all time, Paul.
Speaker 5: Since it's ten starts, Mahomes is one of them.
Speaker 1: He is third on the list.
Speaker 2: What about like Cam Newton, No, No, brock Purty is
Speaker 2: number one.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: Rock Perty's passer rating through the first ten career starts
Speaker 2: is at one seventeen, Mahomes one twelve. Rob Johnson, who
Speaker 2: played with Jacksonville and Buffalo, is a second all time
Speaker 2: stat of the days of the day, best stat of
Speaker 2: the days, stat of the day.
Speaker 5: Here come, here comes that what stat of the day.
Speaker 2: But don't call brock Purty a system quarterback. Here's Kyle Shanahan,
Speaker 2: the Niners head coach.
Speaker 10: What would you say to those who say that Brock
Speaker 10: is still largely a product of your system?
Speaker 14: I mean, that's pretty ridiculous. This guy watched the tap.
Speaker 14: I mean, he plays at a high level every time
Speaker 14: he's been out there, and he's done it in a
Speaker 14: lot of different situations versus a lot of different defenses
Speaker 14: on the road, at home, in playoff games. When injured,
Speaker 14: he does you can't do.
Speaker 4: All that stuff.
Speaker 14: He's been out there too long. He's it's on tape.
Speaker 1: He's right.
Speaker 2: And I was really skeptical of him being able to
Speaker 2: come back from that injury in the timeframe, and he's
Speaker 2: done that, and then so he's played great. And I always,
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes you wonder if the quarterback is leading
Speaker 2: the offense or the offense is leading the quarterback. And
Speaker 2: I've said that before about the Cowboys. It felt like
Speaker 2: they had skilled position players and they kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: drag Dak with them. Although Dak has had his moments though,
Speaker 2: but rock Perty, it starts with him, and he's played
Speaker 2: well and it doesn't seem like he's limited. And I'm
Speaker 2: always I need to see another year now.
Speaker 1: I said that about Jalen Hurts this year.
Speaker 2: I just you get caught up in you know, Kyler
Speaker 2: Murray's contract, Danny Dimes, Oh my god, you got to
Speaker 2: pay them well.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I got to see more out of you, and it
Speaker 2: might not be fair, but it's a lot of money.
Speaker 2: If you said to Arizona, hey, would you like to
Speaker 2: have that money back and maybe make Kyler Murray show
Speaker 2: you one more year?
Speaker 1: The answer would be yes.
Speaker 2: If I said that to the Giants, hey, would you
Speaker 2: have maybe have franchised him?
Speaker 1: Like why did you do what you did? They'd probably go.
Speaker 2: You know, you're probably right there, And I don't think
Speaker 2: it's that egregious to say I need to see a
Speaker 2: little bit more from you, That's all.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Paul, Like it's not fair to party, but I
Speaker 7: would like to see Brock Purdy. Let's say he was
Speaker 7: down a couple offensive linemen or down a couple skill position.
Speaker 7: I know Debo has been hurt, but like, imagine where
Speaker 7: he doesn't have everything going his way. It's not his
Speaker 7: fault that they've got a great offensive line and great
Speaker 7: skill pison in players. He's maxing them out, but like
Speaker 7: you'd like to see him in a game where he
Speaker 7: doesn't have.
Speaker 2: It, because if I look at some of these quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: and I've brought this up many many times, you have
Speaker 2: to have good offensive line, a defense, you know your coach, like,
Speaker 2: there's consistency there, your offensive coordinator, all of these things
Speaker 2: you have to have that. If you have all of that,
Speaker 2: then you're playing in the super Bowl. But as you
Speaker 2: saw with Patrick Mahomes, maybe the most talented quarterback who's
Speaker 2: ever played, when he didn't have an offensive line in
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, what happened. He was average, be low average.
Speaker 2: But when he has everything, then nobody can touch that.
Speaker 2: So that's why it comes down to. If Jalen Hurts
Speaker 2: played for the Bears, they wouldn't be any better. I mean,
Speaker 2: maybe they get a winn or two, you're gonna have
Speaker 2: less interceptions, But are you going to really do anything?
Speaker 2: And the answer is no. If I put Jalen Hurds
Speaker 2: in Carolina, is anything going to happen?
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: But you put him with the team that's got talent,
Speaker 2: and then his talent on top of that, then you
Speaker 2: have something made here. And really that's what you're looking for.
Speaker 2: Are you going to get a chance? Do you want
Speaker 2: a chance this early? That team is not good, you're
Speaker 2: going to play, You're going to struggle. It's happened. You know,
Speaker 2: throughout the history of the NFL, there have been really
Speaker 2: talented quarterbacks, they go to bad teams. And I've said
Speaker 2: it before with David Carr, I thought he was extremely
Speaker 2: talented quarterback. He got sacked more than any other quarterback
Speaker 2: in NFL history those first three seasons. He's never recovered there.
Speaker 2: But you know, Mahomes has talent, has a head coach
Speaker 2: who's going to the Hall of Fame. You got a
Speaker 2: tight end going to the Hall of Fame. He's got
Speaker 2: a good offensive line and his talents. Then that makes
Speaker 2: them a super Bowl contender. Jalen Hurts a standalone okay,
Speaker 2: with a really talented team, and no, he knows how
Speaker 2: to use that talent, you're a super Bowl caliber team.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if if mac Jones was on
Speaker 2: the Niners, would mac Jones be Brock perty because we're
Speaker 2: not going to find out because what he has in
Speaker 2: New England, you don't have a talent there. But you know,
Speaker 2: if it's true Kyle Shanahan wanted mac Jones, then he
Speaker 2: probably thought he had Brock Purdy or at least that
Speaker 2: kind of quarterback in mac Jones. Now they decided they
Speaker 2: wanted Trey Lance instead. But if they didn't take Trey Lance,
Speaker 2: they were probably going to take mac Jones and mac
Speaker 2: Jones we might be talking about mac Jones as you know,
Speaker 2: an MVP type candidate. As crazy as that sounds. Put
Speaker 2: Mac Jones in that offense, play action, Deebo McCaffrey, kettle,
Speaker 2: defensive line, offensive minded head coach, you you might have
Speaker 2: something completely different.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Marph, it is just wild being a Niners fan
Speaker 9: the past five years. There's no definitive answer at quarterback,
Speaker 9: and they're going to the super Bowl in conference championship games,
Speaker 9: and even after the super Bowl, they were like, oh,
Speaker 9: you know what, trade a bunch of people for their
Speaker 9: number three pick and get a quarterback. After leading in
Speaker 9: the Super Bowl in the fourth quarter, you know what,
Speaker 9: We're still not sure. Let's go for Trey Lance instead.
Speaker 2: And they stumbled into mister irrelevant and brock Perty. I mean,
Speaker 2: anybody could have had him. Well, that's that's the amazing
Speaker 2: part of it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Pauling Party's under contract for the next two years
Speaker 7: at nine hundred thousand and a million one and there's
Speaker 7: no way around it's well, but they can they could
Speaker 7: fit this year after this year, and they could fifth
Speaker 7: year option him, so he would be getting what twenty
Speaker 7: three million they could get him for the next three years.
Speaker 1: Well, they can't do a fifth year option, can they,
Speaker 1: because he was Oh, he's got.
Speaker 5: Four years here, so yeah, they have the next two
Speaker 5: years of two million, but.
Speaker 2: He's gonna they're gonna have to they're gonna have to
Speaker 2: pay him after this season if he plays this well,
Speaker 2: they got paid.
Speaker 1: Final hour on the way