Speaker 1: Warning.
Speaker 2: Today's episode candad spoilers for the Superman trailer and maybe
Speaker 2: some other stuff from related movies, but not really, there's nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you've seen the Superman trailer. If you haven't seen it,
Speaker 2: go watch it because it's great.
Speaker 3: It's really great.
Speaker 1: Hello.
Speaker 2: My name is Jason Concepcion and I'm roseay Night, and
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Speaker 3: And in today's special episode, we're doing Trailer Watch. Is
Speaker 3: it Bud? Is it aplane? No? It's the highly anticipated
Speaker 3: trailer for James Gunn's twenty twenty five Superman movie, which
Speaker 3: we are gonna dig into right here.
Speaker 1: Let's go.
Speaker 2: Okay, the Superman trailer is out. We are recording this
Speaker 2: Friday morning. It dropped twenty four hours ago. James Gunn
Speaker 2: posted it to the interwells and it has spread out
Speaker 2: from there.
Speaker 1: I think it's fucking great.
Speaker 3: Your thoughts, I mean, yeah, I loved it. I was
Speaker 3: actually lucky enough to go and see it on the
Speaker 3: Warner Brothers lot. I wrote some articles about it for Then
Speaker 3: of Geek got to hear him and David corn Sweat
Speaker 3: and Rachel Brasnan Brosnahan, who is playing Lewis Lane talk
Speaker 3: about it, and yeah, I mean, what a great trailer.
Speaker 3: I didn't know what to expect because my mileage can
Speaker 3: vary with gun but I was really blown away. I
Speaker 3: think I love the way it opens with this almost
Speaker 3: like fake out, where you start with this bloodied, brutally
Speaker 3: beaten up Superman and you think, oh, this is a
Speaker 3: bit this is a bit dark, this is a bit gritty,
Speaker 3: but then you immediately get him calling, you know, Crypto
Speaker 3: to come and take him home from the snowy wilds
Speaker 3: where the Fortress of Solitude clearly is. I thought that
Speaker 3: was great. I loved how much Lewis and Clark there
Speaker 3: is in the trailer. I think we really need that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I loved seeing Crypto the super Dog. I think James
Speaker 3: Gunn was very smart to lead with that. I love
Speaker 3: the kind of reimagine John Williams theme with the heavy
Speaker 3: guitar riff. What about you, What were like the standout
Speaker 3: moments for you?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: I think first and foremost the important thing for me
Speaker 2: with Superman, I will maintain that Superman two. The Christopher
Speaker 2: Ue Superman two is still one of the greatest comic
Speaker 2: book movies of fucking all times agreed, It's incredible and
Speaker 2: a person who like as a kid, I love those
Speaker 2: Superman movies as a kid. For me, coming off of
Speaker 2: the Snyder verse and the everything we've seen before, it's
Speaker 2: about like how it made me feel, and it just
Speaker 2: made me feel really good and good, like really good
Speaker 2: about Superman. I think the opening we're Superman crashes to
Speaker 2: Earth somewhere around the Fortress of Solitude, it seems I
Speaker 2: think that was really I think that was really smart
Speaker 2: on several levels. One, we get to see Crypto and
Speaker 2: it's great to be like, it's very James gunn to
Speaker 2: be like, we're leaning into that everything that is super
Speaker 2: weird about Yes, the character, any given character is important.
Speaker 1: To the character. We're not going to ignore any of that.
Speaker 1: So like we're not exactly.
Speaker 2: We're not gonna like be like, Okay, well that's stupid
Speaker 2: to have like a superpowered dog.
Speaker 1: And then he wasn't yes, yes, no, put it in.
Speaker 3: You're actually you're actually like so on a level with
Speaker 3: what Gum was going for at the event. He said,
Speaker 3: we're embracing all of super He was like, there's you know,
Speaker 3: in the past, there's been these characters and it's been like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's Batman but not any of the other stuff, or
Speaker 3: it's Superman but not any of the other stuff. And
Speaker 3: he was like, this is an alternative history, fantasy world
Speaker 3: where superheroes exist and people have real lives, which is
Speaker 3: how we ground it. But Superman has a flying dog,
Speaker 3: he has a fortress that springs from the ground, he
Speaker 3: has you know, friends who are superheroes who wear capes,
Speaker 3: and he has enemies who dress up. And I'm like, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1: So it's important on that level.
Speaker 2: And I think that is that's the thing that Marvel
Speaker 2: figured out, that like, stop trying to make them cool.
Speaker 1: Stop stop it with like C suite.
Speaker 2: Level entertainment execs going well, why don't we put them
Speaker 2: in black leather because the costumes are too colorful they
Speaker 2: look like pro wrestlers or something. Marvel figured that out,
Speaker 2: and Gun just understands that. And I think that so
Speaker 2: it's important from that perspective. And I think it's also
Speaker 2: important from the perspective of you know, what's the the
Speaker 2: criticism of Superman, despite the fact that in the eighties
Speaker 2: and the late seventies to the eighties there was five
Speaker 2: hit movies based on the Superman the criticism.
Speaker 3: And multiple like biggest selling comics of all yeah.
Speaker 2: And then up till now, like numerous television shows. I
Speaker 2: think the criticism that you always hear and there's something
Speaker 2: I think there's something to it, is well.
Speaker 1: Superman's perfect. He's the perfect guy. You can't kill him.
Speaker 2: He's you know, fasterest beating, bullet, et cetera, et cetera,
Speaker 2: et cetera. He has no weaknesses, and how do you
Speaker 2: make a compelling character out of that? So it was
Speaker 2: important to show Superman at his lowest that like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you can hurt Superman. Supering can get hurt.
Speaker 1: You can you know.
Speaker 2: Lex Luthor has been the main foil, one of the
Speaker 2: main foils for Superman for a long time and he's
Speaker 2: had Superman on the ropes many times, and I think
Speaker 2: so it's important to one show that we're going to
Speaker 2: embrace all the weirdness of this character, and two it's.
Speaker 1: Not what you think.
Speaker 2: And beyond that, it just it just felt great. I
Speaker 2: thought just in the snippets that we saw, Cord Sweat.
Speaker 3: Gave you that that man is Clauw Kent.
Speaker 2: The kind of bumbling oh excuse me, sorry, oh we're
Speaker 2: over here. Yeah sorry, like oh so probably like that.
Speaker 1: Kind of Superman, and that is so key.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: And I think the other thing that was interesting is
Speaker 2: how you could kind of feel that guy in joorrel
Speaker 2: in Superman in Cow and so I thought it was great.
Speaker 2: It made me feel great. I loved seeing that this
Speaker 2: is not like that the world is ongoing, like Guy
Speaker 2: Gardner is there active.
Speaker 1: It exists, Yes, it exists.
Speaker 2: The Hawk girl is there flying around like they're fighting
Speaker 2: monsters in the city. You know, mister Terrific is out
Speaker 2: there being fucking h Street where read Richard's like, it's
Speaker 2: uh And I love that part of it, like you're
Speaker 2: getting dropped into a living world that's on. There's no
Speaker 2: need to like we're not going to just get you
Speaker 2: up to speed on it here.
Speaker 1: It's great and it just made me feel good.
Speaker 2: And I think that's the number one thing that has
Speaker 2: been missing in no shots, but the Snyder era Superman stuff,
Speaker 2: which some of us, you know, I liked some of
Speaker 2: Man of Steel. But there's like a darkness and a
Speaker 2: heaviness and a rage to Superman that is not anywhere
Speaker 2: in this trailer. And I think that's super super important
Speaker 2: because Superman cannot ever be scary on any level. He's
Speaker 2: he's a god. You know, he could fly around the globe,
Speaker 2: he could do amazing things. You can't kill him, and
Speaker 2: you can.
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And so what he's important is that he project I'm
Speaker 2: a good guy all the time. And I think they
Speaker 2: accomplished that with this trip.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to take a quick break and we'll
Speaker 3: be right back. And we're back. And actually that was
Speaker 3: something really interesting that Gunn said at the event was
Speaker 3: he said he was there in the room and it
Speaker 3: took a long long time to get the suit right,
Speaker 3: and then he saw the suit and he was like,
Speaker 3: oh no, it's too colorful, like the pants are there,
Speaker 3: it's red, it's blue, it's yellow. I don't know. I
Speaker 3: don't think it's going to work. And apparently corn Sweat
Speaker 3: just looked at him and went, he's an alien from
Speaker 3: out of space who's super powerful, who doesn't want small
Speaker 3: children to be afraid of him. And James was like, Yep,
Speaker 3: that's it, Like there real questions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I love.
Speaker 3: That it's this kind of idea that he has beams
Speaker 3: coming out of his eyes, but he needs kids to
Speaker 3: know that he can kind of save them if they
Speaker 3: need him, and we get to see that in moments
Speaker 3: here where he's saving a little girl from an explosion
Speaker 3: and we see a young kid who's holding like a
Speaker 3: Superman banner in what looks like the midst of a
Speaker 3: war zone, and I definitely am very interested to see that.
Speaker 3: We also get a little bit of the classic kind
Speaker 3: of superhero conflict that I feel like you need to
Speaker 3: have in everyone's first superhero movie, which is at some
Speaker 3: point the public turn against you. We see him getting
Speaker 3: like beaned in the head with like a disposable cup
Speaker 3: or something, and then we get this really interesting moment
Speaker 3: where he's in this kind of what looks like maybe
Speaker 3: an abandoned tower building, but anyway, it's a Stag Industries building.
Speaker 3: Simon Stagg is an industrialist who was the original guy
Speaker 3: who hired Rex Mason aka Metamorphos, so there's obviously a
Speaker 3: connection there, and also that Gardener is there is Gaigaraby
Speaker 3: shows up and we get the first look at the
Speaker 3: the lantern skills, which look great. Then we get this
Speaker 3: great moment of hawk Girl flying through the sky, and
Speaker 3: like you said, Eddie Geftheggi as mister Terrific, I'm very
Speaker 3: excited about that because you are so right. He's just
Speaker 3: street where read Richards. He's got his badass jacket on.
Speaker 3: It's interesting that here the tea on his face is
Speaker 3: actually a mask. It's usually chain it on. It looks
Speaker 3: it makes sense. He looks so good, and it looks
Speaker 3: like he is going to be a very primary part
Speaker 3: of the storyline. I think mister Terrific's going to be
Speaker 3: a big player. It's gonna be interesting because one of
Speaker 3: the things Gun said is like, there are all these
Speaker 3: superheroes who already exist, who already fight crime and put
Speaker 3: on costumes, but for very different reasons. And I think
Speaker 3: we'll likely see Superman battling between his kind of Kryptonian legacy,
Speaker 3: his legacy as a human, and his legacy as a
Speaker 3: hero in the face of multiple different kind of outcomes.
Speaker 3: It looks it's like to me, this version of what
Speaker 3: we're seeing here is like a version of the Justice
Speaker 3: League International, and that is probably going to be a
Speaker 3: government type of superhero team is what I think from
Speaker 3: the way we saw a guy come in and the
Speaker 3: way we see mister Terrific at some kind of military
Speaker 3: base under a red force field, and then you'll have Superman,
Speaker 3: who's more of your homegrown Metropolis hero as always. And
Speaker 3: then my gut from this trailer, because there is a
Speaker 3: very big absence here is the Authority who we know
Speaker 3: certain members of the cast are playing Authority members, we
Speaker 3: haven't seen them yet. I think my theory that I'm
Speaker 3: putting out there is I think Lex is going to
Speaker 3: be the one originally behind the Authority. He's going to
Speaker 3: try and prove that there's a more militant way to
Speaker 3: fight crime. Nicholas Holt at the event, I have to
Speaker 3: say I was actually most star struck to see him
Speaker 3: because I just seen Los Ferao and he was so
Speaker 3: good in it, and I was like, oh, I was like,
Speaker 3: Nicholas Holt, nice to see you. I love Skins. So
Speaker 3: he was basically like talking about how he feels that
Speaker 3: his version of Lex, who does already hate Superman, that
Speaker 3: is already established. He has a belief that what he
Speaker 3: is doing is right, and a big part of the
Speaker 3: conflict is going to be that him, Lois, and Clark
Speaker 3: all have different visions for what is right for Metropolis
Speaker 3: and how to get there, And he said he feels like,
Speaker 3: even if you don't agree with him, maybe you'll be
Speaker 3: able to understand that what he is suggesting for Metropolis,
Speaker 3: his ideology for it, could actually be better for humanity.
Speaker 3: So that sounds to me like some kind of like
Speaker 3: more militant, almost the Kingdom come esque, Like there's a
Speaker 3: big alien threat, so we need something more definitive, more
Speaker 3: willing to kill. So I think that will be an
Speaker 3: interesting wrinkle to solve. Also, James actually referred to how
Speaker 3: hard it was to balance the grounding in this because
Speaker 3: he said, this is something that's more akin to maybe
Speaker 3: a Game of Thrones than your average superhero show, which
Speaker 3: I think is interesting but makes sense because we do
Speaker 3: get that giant like fire breathing monster, which was also
Speaker 3: very cool to see what kind of kaiju element.
Speaker 2: Well, let's go to a break, and then when we
Speaker 2: come back, let's do some you know, quick questions predictions.
Speaker 2: We'll have you unpack who some of these characters are,
Speaker 2: and then we'll talk about, you know, what we think
Speaker 2: this movie is gonna be abound back after this, and
Speaker 2: we're back. Okay, we're back. Let's talk about the characters
Speaker 2: that we see in here. Let's start with Gardner. They
Speaker 2: got the bull cut, right, he looks like an asshole,
Speaker 2: his little fuck ass, little fucking bull cut.
Speaker 1: Tell us about Gardner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So Guy Gardner's generally known as like the
Speaker 3: most annoying Green Lantern, which of course makes him one
Speaker 3: of my favorites. We first met him in nineteen sixty
Speaker 3: eighth Greenland and fifty nine. Lots of late sixties characters
Speaker 3: in this are created by John Bruman Gilkine like two Legends.
Speaker 3: He has the classic Green Lantern powers given to him
Speaker 3: by the Ring Fight Flight Imagination, hard like constructs, you know,
Speaker 3: real life translation of all languages. I think we could
Speaker 3: be seeing a very cosmic movie here from these heroes
Speaker 3: we have seen like him adapted a lot in animation
Speaker 3: by like really big names Deedrich Bader, Troy Baker, stuff
Speaker 3: like that. And essentially the version that we know of
Speaker 3: him is really the eighties version, which is Steve Engelhart.
Speaker 3: He has reimagined from it book legend. They're kind of
Speaker 3: reimagining as this almost like He's like a patriotic dickhead
Speaker 3: who just like nobody likes. He's always bothering people. He's
Speaker 3: trying to be how, but he's never how and he
Speaker 3: basically throughout life has just been like he's had a
Speaker 3: bad life. He is. He's from an abusive childhood. He
Speaker 3: was a juvenile delinquent and essentially like a really big
Speaker 3: trend that I want to bring back. He ended up
Speaker 3: becoming like a social worker and then he ended up
Speaker 3: getting his his ring and joining the Green Lantern Corpse.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I think this is really going to take
Speaker 3: from the late eighties stuff where the JLA disbands and
Speaker 3: you have Justice League International. So it's going to be
Speaker 3: interesting to know if there was ever a Justice League
Speaker 3: of America in this. I don't know, but yeah, it
Speaker 3: expect him to be very sassy. I had originally thought
Speaker 3: they cast a little bit old with him with Nathan Fillion,
Speaker 3: but from this, I just love it. And obviously I
Speaker 3: love a uniform, so it's great to see them all
Speaker 3: in their jackets.
Speaker 2: Prediction he dies next.
Speaker 3: Jason said, he dies so quickly.
Speaker 1: Mister terrific.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, mister Terrific. One of the coolest characters from
Speaker 3: DC originally John Alstranded Tim Mandreat character. I mean, those
Speaker 3: are two legends spect volume three, issue fifty four, and
Speaker 3: basically he is Michael Holt, and he is this very cool,
Speaker 3: super intelligent He was an incredible reader as a young kid.
Speaker 3: That's what it always is. He's like understanding theoretical physics.
Speaker 3: He's very much in that read Richard's space for DC. Sadly,
Speaker 3: like many superheroes, as he grew older, his family died,
Speaker 3: his wife, a numberne child died, and he was basically
Speaker 3: saved by this Specter who introduced him to the original
Speaker 3: Golden Age here known as mister Terrific. And then Holt
Speaker 3: was inspired by that to use his intense intelligence to
Speaker 3: create these nanites. I actually I guess that there is
Speaker 3: a version in the comics where the nanites make up
Speaker 3: the mask on his face, so that's probably what we're seeing.
Speaker 3: And he has this really rad jacket, which if you
Speaker 3: like the CW stuff, you probably saw Echo Kellam play
Speaker 3: him as the fair play on the side, and he
Speaker 3: can essentially make the nanites kind of do what he wants,
Speaker 3: and he turns them into these cool balls and throws
Speaker 3: them at people. His kind of biggest rivalry, hilariously is
Speaker 3: with Batman. We'll talk about Batman and the lack of
Speaker 3: Batman in this universe in a minute. Also has storylines
Speaker 3: with like the brother I and stuff, So maybe that
Speaker 3: is what we're seeing big part of Kingdom Come, which
Speaker 3: I do think James Gunn is probably working up to. Yeah,
Speaker 3: really badass character. I think this could become the fan
Speaker 3: fave kind of dark horse character going into this universe.
Speaker 1: Uh, hot girl.
Speaker 3: If you love a romance, then this is the character
Speaker 3: for you. You may remember seeing Old Hodge as hawk
Speaker 3: Man in the already forgotten Black Adam movie, but he
Speaker 3: was great. I would be fine with him to bring
Speaker 3: him back. We are getting Isabelle McCard here. Fantastic young
Speaker 3: actress and basically hawk Girl is a golden age character
Speaker 3: who's been reimagined throughout the years. She was originally in
Speaker 3: Flashcomics number one from nineteen forty, so this is really
Speaker 3: going back. She is depending on the cannon, but this
Speaker 3: is the general vibe of it. She is a woman
Speaker 3: who was killed in the past and was cursed, and
Speaker 3: every time she comes back and is reincarnated, she has
Speaker 3: to find her husband, who is Hawkman. She has an
Speaker 3: metal morning Star, which is totally badass. She can fly,
Speaker 3: and yeah, she's basically like a time traveling kind of
Speaker 3: the Mummy esque adventurer. And then in the Silver Age
Speaker 3: version they kind of became these like space alien cops,
Speaker 3: kind of akin to Green Lantern Thanagarian police officers. And
Speaker 3: basically throughout that kind of idea of them constantly being
Speaker 3: reincarnated and coming back again and again and finding each
Speaker 3: other has been a key part of their law. It
Speaker 3: was even introduced within the Black Adam Law for hawk Man.
Speaker 3: I'll be interested to see how they do it here
Speaker 3: because James Gunn has talked extensively about this being grounded
Speaker 3: but also about wanting to bring in all the law,
Speaker 3: so it'll be interesting to see. Very excited to see how.
Speaker 3: I think she's a super popular character, very iconic from
Speaker 3: the animated series, so if they can get this right,
Speaker 3: this could be a ten year plan MCU style big.
Speaker 1: Character uh Metamorpho.
Speaker 3: Chemical period is one of the weirdos and also one
Speaker 3: of the best bits of casting that has come out.
Speaker 3: I mean, the David Corn sweat casting is obviously weird,
Speaker 3: seeing iconic, it's like a home run, looks like a
Speaker 3: home run, but this one was the one that everyone
Speaker 3: got really really excited about. Noha Hank himself. Anthony Carrigan
Speaker 3: as Metamorpho, one of the most famous Bold characters, another
Speaker 3: late sixties character in nineteen sixty five, originally from Brave
Speaker 3: in the Bald fifty seven by Ramona fre Don, one
Speaker 3: of the legendary female comic creators who we sadly lost
Speaker 3: earlier this year, luckily at the ripe old age of
Speaker 3: her late nineties. She's an aquaman legend, a nay More legend,
Speaker 3: a submariner legend. She is just a legend and always
Speaker 3: love Ramona forre Don and basically Metamorpho. He was a
Speaker 3: member of the Outsiders. He's been in the Justice League.
Speaker 3: He was a guy called Rect Mason who worked for
Speaker 3: an industrial organization called Stag Enterprises. He had to retrieve
Speaker 3: a rare Egyptian artist. Never do that, as you will
Speaker 3: see lots of Egyptian style mummy s adventure characters being
Speaker 3: included here. He essentially ended up dating his boss's daughter.
Speaker 3: Also never do that. So Simon Stagg didn't like that,
Speaker 3: decided he was going to try and kill him, and
Speaker 3: eventually the Egyptian artifact called the orb of Ra kind
Speaker 3: of like transformed him into Metamorpho. Was it a radioactive meteorite?
Speaker 3: Was it something magical? Depends on your cannon. But his
Speaker 3: powers are very interesting because he is not someone who
Speaker 3: can have a secret identity, which I think is like
Speaker 3: a he looks like that all the time, and in
Speaker 3: he looks jacked up, and in the glimpse that we
Speaker 3: get of him here he looks real jacked up.
Speaker 1: Now, can I make a prediction really quickly? Please, Metamorpho?
Speaker 2: Can you know, change his body into various chemical compounds?
Speaker 1: I think that's how. I think that's how Lex gets Kryptonite.
Speaker 1: I think he forces Metamorpho to turn into Cryptonize.
Speaker 3: And I was gonna say, I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 3: because of the fact that Clark can live a completely
Speaker 3: normal life by just putting on glasses, I wouldn't be
Speaker 3: surprised if Metamorpho is at first an antagonist who is
Speaker 3: maybe easily emotionally manipulated bilex into being like, look at
Speaker 3: this man who can have everything he wants that you
Speaker 3: can't have. And then yeah, that's how because we do
Speaker 3: get in this trailer as well, we get a momentary
Speaker 3: glimpse of Nicholas Holt's Lex looks great with an old
Speaker 3: school pistol, like a silver pistol, and I think it's
Speaker 3: obviously going to have cryptical bullet in the Kryptonite bullet,
Speaker 3: of course. So yeah, I think this is going to
Speaker 3: be very interesting and I'm very excited to see Metamorpho
Speaker 3: is one of the most interesting weird characters, and I
Speaker 3: think with James Gunn at the Helm, we will likely
Speaker 3: get a very interesting, intense kind of exploration of what
Speaker 3: it is like to be a freak in the world
Speaker 3: where superheroes are kind of accepted. So yeah, I'm I'm
Speaker 3: really really excited about that, Jason, Which character are you
Speaker 3: most excited to see more of after the train?
Speaker 2: I mean, probably Crypto, but also yeah, you know, but
Speaker 2: also the Babe.
Speaker 1: Did you know guy? And mister Terrific.
Speaker 3: I think like together.
Speaker 2: Are ones that, oh we forgot one Kelex we should
Speaker 2: talk about.
Speaker 3: So there is a moment at the end of the
Speaker 3: trailer where you see Superman and he's kind of hugging
Speaker 3: this blue robot and it looks like very tender that
Speaker 3: we can probably assume is Kelex, who's like the robot
Speaker 3: who helps run the Fortress of Solitude. This is not
Speaker 3: a visual representation that immediately calls to mind Kelex, but
Speaker 3: if you imagine that you are like an orphaned child
Speaker 3: mentioned to your home planet, exactly is this fortress of solitude,
Speaker 3: and the one person who has been helping you in
Speaker 3: there is this sweet robot with all the information like
Speaker 3: your parents, home planet, your parents, they worked with them
Speaker 3: also alongside probably like a I'm guessing a hologram of
Speaker 3: your dad is because that's the classics Portress of Solitude situation,
Speaker 3: and it looks like the big guest here. I think
Speaker 3: from kelex Is appearance is that we are probably gonna
Speaker 3: be in a situation also. This is I would say
Speaker 3: Kelex being involved is like a big hint at what
Speaker 3: they're taking from here, because we've talked about the sixties
Speaker 3: stuff but also the eighties stuff. Kelex is a John
Speaker 3: Byrne creation from Man of Steel number one, so I
Speaker 3: think we can look heavily to that for what kind
Speaker 3: of tome we're going to get here. The thing that's
Speaker 3: very interesting about Kelex is he did no jaw Ol
Speaker 3: and he essentially like is there when the Fortress of
Speaker 3: solid is redesigned as a way for people to get
Speaker 3: to know about it. And in those comics, Kelex is
Speaker 3: destroyed by Lex Luthor. I don't think we're gonna see,
Speaker 3: you know, Lex in the super suit that he has,
Speaker 3: like his kind of mech suit, though I would love
Speaker 3: that in the comics because I think that's very cool.
Speaker 3: But I do think that we will see Lex unleash
Speaker 3: whatever being or monster it is that manages the punch
Speaker 3: Superman into the ground and destroy the Fortress of Solitude. Okay, Jason,
Speaker 3: big final theory before we wrap up our trailer watch.
Speaker 1: Big final theory. Here's my final theory.
Speaker 2: I think Superman uh intercedes in whatever in that the
Speaker 2: conflict in Brovia.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: He can't help himself. He's been doing just local crime
Speaker 2: fighting stuff and saving kids from burning buildings, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: That really pisses Lex off because he's got his own
Speaker 2: superhero team that he is that is being held out
Speaker 2: of it because whatever other countries will be threatened if
Speaker 2: we start using our superheroes internationally. This upsets the balance.
Speaker 2: Lex is like, this is fucked up. We have to
Speaker 2: take out Superman because he's destabilizing things then and you
Speaker 2: go from there. I think that's basically what the shape
Speaker 2: of it is going to be.
Speaker 1: That's my guess. Your guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that sounds very similar. I think that
Speaker 3: we'll probably get like whatever conflict is going on, where
Speaker 3: we will see Lois interceding in it too in her
Speaker 3: own way, putting ourselves in danger. I will also say,
Speaker 3: this is my out there timfoil Hat theory. We've recently
Speaker 3: just got a comic book at DC that is a
Speaker 3: Superwoman comic book with Lois Lane as Superwoman. I don't
Speaker 3: think they're going to go that far, but there was
Speaker 3: some very interesting eggshell treading by the three people who
Speaker 3: were up on stage talking about I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 3: if we saw Lois get a power, some power something
Speaker 3: by the end, So I would be interested to say
Speaker 3: that that's my I would like to see it. But
Speaker 3: also Lois is powerful enough by just being a journalist
Speaker 3: with integrity, so I will be excited either way. And
Speaker 3: I just honestly am surprised by how much I want
Speaker 3: to see this movie.
Speaker 1: I'm really twenty.
Speaker 3: Twenty five could could be the year of Superman. I
Speaker 3: think Marvel's going to have to work really hard for
Speaker 3: it to not be after seeing that.
Speaker 1: Trailer and I meant for a TV.
Speaker 3: Dude. I couldn't read it either. It's very hard. You
Speaker 3: can read it on the TV soon passed it, so
Speaker 3: you've got to pause it well.
Speaker 2: On the next episode of X ray Vision, we're diving
Speaker 2: into the best movies of twenty twenty four and on
Speaker 2: Christmas we'll be talking about the most happy and merry
Speaker 2: and seasonal movie of them all. Thus fair to Oh,
Speaker 2: I'll gather around the fire for that one.
Speaker 3: First ever, n for that one maybe and.
Speaker 2: More Skeleton Crew on Year's Eve, in which we will
Speaker 2: covering episode one oh five of the Disney Plus series.
Speaker 1: That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening. Bye.
Speaker 2: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Ken, Supsion and
Speaker 2: Rosie Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our
Speaker 2: executive producers are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising
Speaker 2: producer is a Boo Zafar. Our producers are Carmen Laurent
Speaker 2: and Mia Taylor. Our theme song is by Brian Basquez.
Speaker 3: Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman
Speaker 3: and Heidi on Discolled Moderata