WEBVTT - Superman Trailer Reactions 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:01.040 Warning. 0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:05.520 Today's episode candad spoilers for the Superman trailer and maybe 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:11.360 some other stuff from related movies, but not really, there's nothing. Yeah, 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:13.680 you've seen the Superman trailer. If you haven't seen it, 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:14.720 go watch it because it's great. 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:16.360 It's really great. 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:31.520 Hello. 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:36.159 My name is Jason Concepcion and I'm roseay Night, and 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:38.199 welcome back to X Reviews of the podcast, where we 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:42.120 dive deep to your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture. 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:44.720 Coming to you from iHeart Podcast, where we're bringing you 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:48.040 three episodes a week every Tuesday Thursday, with an extra 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:49.240 episode every Wednesday. 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:54.960 And in today's special episode, we're doing Trailer Watch. Is 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:58.040 it Bud? Is it aplane? No? It's the highly anticipated 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:01.640 trailer for James Gunn's twenty twenty five Superman movie, which 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:04.440 we are gonna dig into right here. 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:05.120 Let's go. 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:10.680 Okay, the Superman trailer is out. We are recording this 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:14.760 Friday morning. It dropped twenty four hours ago. James Gunn 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:19.560 posted it to the interwells and it has spread out 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:20.120 from there. 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:21.800 I think it's fucking great. 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:25.800 Your thoughts, I mean, yeah, I loved it. I was 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:28.800 actually lucky enough to go and see it on the 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.399 Warner Brothers lot. I wrote some articles about it for Then 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:34.400 of Geek got to hear him and David corn Sweat 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:39.800 and Rachel Brasnan Brosnahan, who is playing Lewis Lane talk 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:42.400 about it, and yeah, I mean, what a great trailer. 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:48.320 I didn't know what to expect because my mileage can 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.320 vary with gun but I was really blown away. I 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.160 think I love the way it opens with this almost 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:58.160 like fake out, where you start with this bloodied, brutally 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:00.560 beaten up Superman and you think, oh, this is a 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.240 bit this is a bit dark, this is a bit gritty, 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:08.560 but then you immediately get him calling, you know, Crypto 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:11.280 to come and take him home from the snowy wilds 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:13.680 where the Fortress of Solitude clearly is. I thought that 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:16.240 was great. I loved how much Lewis and Clark there 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.399 is in the trailer. I think we really need that. 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:20.360 Yeah. 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:22.880 I loved seeing Crypto the super Dog. I think James 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:25.359 Gunn was very smart to lead with that. I love 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:30.200 the kind of reimagine John Williams theme with the heavy 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:33.360 guitar riff. What about you, What were like the standout 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:33.960 moments for you? 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:35.120 Well? 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:38.640 I think first and foremost the important thing for me 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:43.000 with Superman, I will maintain that Superman two. The Christopher 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.320 Ue Superman two is still one of the greatest comic 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:49.000 book movies of fucking all times agreed, It's incredible and 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.680 a person who like as a kid, I love those 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:56.799 Superman movies as a kid. For me, coming off of 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.600 the Snyder verse and the everything we've seen before, it's 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.120 about like how it made me feel, and it just 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:08.560 made me feel really good and good, like really good 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:13.680 about Superman. I think the opening we're Superman crashes to 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:17.600 Earth somewhere around the Fortress of Solitude, it seems I 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.280 think that was really I think that was really smart 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:22.880 on several levels. One, we get to see Crypto and 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:27.120 it's great to be like, it's very James gunn to 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:32.760 be like, we're leaning into that everything that is super 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:38.600 weird about Yes, the character, any given character is important. 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:39.960 To the character. We're not going to ignore any of that. 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:41.760 So like we're not exactly. 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.240 We're not gonna like be like, Okay, well that's stupid 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.760 to have like a superpowered dog. 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:50.480 And then he wasn't yes, yes, no, put it in. 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.880 You're actually you're actually like so on a level with 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.520 what Gum was going for at the event. He said, 0:03:56.680 --> 0:04:00.760 we're embracing all of super He was like, there's you know, 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:03.520 in the past, there's been these characters and it's been like, okay, yeah, 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:05.680 it's Batman but not any of the other stuff, or 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:07.560 it's Superman but not any of the other stuff. And 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:11.080 he was like, this is an alternative history, fantasy world 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:16.279 where superheroes exist and people have real lives, which is 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:18.719 how we ground it. But Superman has a flying dog, 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.520 he has a fortress that springs from the ground, he 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:25.040 has you know, friends who are superheroes who wear capes, 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.760 and he has enemies who dress up. And I'm like, yes, yes, yes. 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.080 So it's important on that level. 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.760 And I think that is that's the thing that Marvel 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.640 figured out, that like, stop trying to make them cool. 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.920 Stop stop it with like C suite. 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.760 Level entertainment execs going well, why don't we put them 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.360 in black leather because the costumes are too colorful they 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.960 look like pro wrestlers or something. Marvel figured that out, 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:51.200 and Gun just understands that. And I think that so 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:53.680 it's important from that perspective. And I think it's also 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:57.560 important from the perspective of you know, what's the the 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:01.440 criticism of Superman, despite the fact that in the eighties 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:04.640 and the late seventies to the eighties there was five 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:08.360 hit movies based on the Superman the criticism. 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:10.840 And multiple like biggest selling comics of all yeah. 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:14.479 And then up till now, like numerous television shows. I 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:18.640 think the criticism that you always hear and there's something 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.960 I think there's something to it, is well. 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:25.240 Superman's perfect. He's the perfect guy. You can't kill him. 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.440 He's you know, fasterest beating, bullet, et cetera, et cetera, 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:30.680 et cetera. He has no weaknesses, and how do you 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.120 make a compelling character out of that? So it was 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.640 important to show Superman at his lowest that like, yeah, 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.680 you can hurt Superman. Supering can get hurt. 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:39.800 You can you know. 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.200 Lex Luthor has been the main foil, one of the 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:45.520 main foils for Superman for a long time and he's 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.960 had Superman on the ropes many times, and I think 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.840 so it's important to one show that we're going to 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:56.279 embrace all the weirdness of this character, and two it's. 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:56.960 Not what you think. 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:00.839 And beyond that, it just it just felt great. I 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:05.000 thought just in the snippets that we saw, Cord Sweat. 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:08.479 Gave you that that man is Clauw Kent. 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:13.640 The kind of bumbling oh excuse me, sorry, oh we're 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:18.640 over here. Yeah sorry, like oh so probably like that. 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:24.040 Kind of Superman, and that is so key. 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:25.240 Yeah, I agree. 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.279 And I think the other thing that was interesting is 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:31.360 how you could kind of feel that guy in joorrel 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:36.520 in Superman in Cow and so I thought it was great. 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:40.159 It made me feel great. I loved seeing that this 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.680 is not like that the world is ongoing, like Guy 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:45.600 Gardner is there active. 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.520 It exists, Yes, it exists. 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:51.440 The Hawk girl is there flying around like they're fighting 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.760 monsters in the city. You know, mister Terrific is out 0:06:54.760 --> 0:07:01.839 there being fucking h Street where read Richard's like, it's 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:04.240 uh And I love that part of it, like you're 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.280 getting dropped into a living world that's on. There's no 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:08.839 need to like we're not going to just get you 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:10.360 up to speed on it here. 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:14.840 It's great and it just made me feel good. 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.560 And I think that's the number one thing that has 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:23.640 been missing in no shots, but the Snyder era Superman stuff, 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:25.840 which some of us, you know, I liked some of 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.480 Man of Steel. But there's like a darkness and a 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:36.720 heaviness and a rage to Superman that is not anywhere 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.440 in this trailer. And I think that's super super important 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:45.720 because Superman cannot ever be scary on any level. He's 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:49.440 he's a god. You know, he could fly around the globe, 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:54.720 he could do amazing things. You can't kill him, and 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:55.240 you can. 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:55.960 But you know what I mean. 0:07:56.240 --> 0:08:01.080 And so what he's important is that he project I'm 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.040 a good guy all the time. And I think they 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:04.280 accomplished that with this trip. 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:06.760 Yeah, we're going to take a quick break and we'll 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:24.480 be right back. And we're back. And actually that was 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:27.760 something really interesting that Gunn said at the event was 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.080 he said he was there in the room and it 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:33.480 took a long long time to get the suit right, 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:35.160 and then he saw the suit and he was like, 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.480 oh no, it's too colorful, like the pants are there, 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:41.840 it's red, it's blue, it's yellow. I don't know. I 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:45.560 don't think it's going to work. And apparently corn Sweat 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.400 just looked at him and went, he's an alien from 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.600 out of space who's super powerful, who doesn't want small 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:54.679 children to be afraid of him. And James was like, Yep, 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:57.080 that's it, Like there real questions. 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:58.400 Yeah, And I love. 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:00.439 That it's this kind of idea that he has beams 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.120 coming out of his eyes, but he needs kids to 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:06.600 know that he can kind of save them if they 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:08.640 need him, and we get to see that in moments 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.240 here where he's saving a little girl from an explosion 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.920 and we see a young kid who's holding like a 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:16.440 Superman banner in what looks like the midst of a 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:20.360 war zone, and I definitely am very interested to see that. 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:23.319 We also get a little bit of the classic kind 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.600 of superhero conflict that I feel like you need to 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.920 have in everyone's first superhero movie, which is at some 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.839 point the public turn against you. We see him getting 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:34.680 like beaned in the head with like a disposable cup 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.880 or something, and then we get this really interesting moment 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.360 where he's in this kind of what looks like maybe 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:45.640 an abandoned tower building, but anyway, it's a Stag Industries building. 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:49.560 Simon Stagg is an industrialist who was the original guy 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:53.120 who hired Rex Mason aka Metamorphos, so there's obviously a 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:57.360 connection there, and also that Gardener is there is Gaigaraby 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.400 shows up and we get the first look at the 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.240 the lantern skills, which look great. Then we get this 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:07.240 great moment of hawk Girl flying through the sky, and 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:11.600 like you said, Eddie Geftheggi as mister Terrific, I'm very 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:13.720 excited about that because you are so right. He's just 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:16.440 street where read Richards. He's got his badass jacket on. 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.800 It's interesting that here the tea on his face is 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:23.160 actually a mask. It's usually chain it on. It looks 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.760 it makes sense. He looks so good, and it looks 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.280 like he is going to be a very primary part 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.200 of the storyline. I think mister Terrific's going to be 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:35.360 a big player. It's gonna be interesting because one of 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.800 the things Gun said is like, there are all these 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:42.920 superheroes who already exist, who already fight crime and put 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:46.160 on costumes, but for very different reasons. And I think 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:51.760 we'll likely see Superman battling between his kind of Kryptonian legacy, 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.880 his legacy as a human, and his legacy as a 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:59.600 hero in the face of multiple different kind of outcomes. 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.120 It looks it's like to me, this version of what 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.440 we're seeing here is like a version of the Justice 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.679 League International, and that is probably going to be a 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:11.880 government type of superhero team is what I think from 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:13.760 the way we saw a guy come in and the 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.640 way we see mister Terrific at some kind of military 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:20.800 base under a red force field, and then you'll have Superman, 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:24.320 who's more of your homegrown Metropolis hero as always. And 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:28.320 then my gut from this trailer, because there is a 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:32.360 very big absence here is the Authority who we know 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:36.920 certain members of the cast are playing Authority members, we 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:41.679 haven't seen them yet. I think my theory that I'm 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.000 putting out there is I think Lex is going to 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:47.920 be the one originally behind the Authority. He's going to 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.280 try and prove that there's a more militant way to 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:54.559 fight crime. Nicholas Holt at the event, I have to 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:57.040 say I was actually most star struck to see him 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.080 because I just seen Los Ferao and he was so 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.160 good in it, and I was like, oh, I was like, 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.520 Nicholas Holt, nice to see you. I love Skins. So 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:10.520 he was basically like talking about how he feels that 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:13.640 his version of Lex, who does already hate Superman, that 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:20.640 is already established. He has a belief that what he 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.800 is doing is right, and a big part of the 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.680 conflict is going to be that him, Lois, and Clark 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:29.880 all have different visions for what is right for Metropolis 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:33.040 and how to get there, And he said he feels like, 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:36.520 even if you don't agree with him, maybe you'll be 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.960 able to understand that what he is suggesting for Metropolis, 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:43.319 his ideology for it, could actually be better for humanity. 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:45.679 So that sounds to me like some kind of like 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:49.560 more militant, almost the Kingdom come esque, Like there's a 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:54.199 big alien threat, so we need something more definitive, more 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.520 willing to kill. So I think that will be an 0:12:56.520 --> 0:13:02.000 interesting wrinkle to solve. Also, James actually referred to how 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.880 hard it was to balance the grounding in this because 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.680 he said, this is something that's more akin to maybe 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:11.000 a Game of Thrones than your average superhero show, which 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:13.360 I think is interesting but makes sense because we do 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:18.120 get that giant like fire breathing monster, which was also 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.880 very cool to see what kind of kaiju element. 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.240 Well, let's go to a break, and then when we 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:27.760 come back, let's do some you know, quick questions predictions. 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:30.720 We'll have you unpack who some of these characters are, 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.280 and then we'll talk about, you know, what we think 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:51.600 this movie is gonna be abound back after this, and 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:56.679 we're back. Okay, we're back. Let's talk about the characters 0:13:56.679 --> 0:14:00.880 that we see in here. Let's start with Gardner. They 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:04.040 got the bull cut, right, he looks like an asshole, 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.160 his little fuck ass, little fucking bull cut. 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:08.560 Tell us about Gardner. 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.719 Yeah, okay, So Guy Gardner's generally known as like the 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.920 most annoying Green Lantern, which of course makes him one 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.240 of my favorites. We first met him in nineteen sixty 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:21.120 eighth Greenland and fifty nine. Lots of late sixties characters 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:24.720 in this are created by John Bruman Gilkine like two Legends. 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.160 He has the classic Green Lantern powers given to him 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:34.560 by the Ring Fight Flight Imagination, hard like constructs, you know, 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.520 real life translation of all languages. I think we could 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:41.520 be seeing a very cosmic movie here from these heroes 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:46.479 we have seen like him adapted a lot in animation 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.680 by like really big names Deedrich Bader, Troy Baker, stuff 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:56.360 like that. And essentially the version that we know of 0:14:56.480 --> 0:15:00.000 him is really the eighties version, which is Steve Engelhart. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.720 He has reimagined from it book legend. They're kind of 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:06.760 reimagining as this almost like He's like a patriotic dickhead 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:11.520 who just like nobody likes. He's always bothering people. He's 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:15.680 trying to be how, but he's never how and he 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.640 basically throughout life has just been like he's had a 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:22.000 bad life. He is. He's from an abusive childhood. He 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:27.160 was a juvenile delinquent and essentially like a really big 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.400 trend that I want to bring back. He ended up 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.880 becoming like a social worker and then he ended up 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:37.200 getting his his ring and joining the Green Lantern Corpse. 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.040 And yeah, I think this is really going to take 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:44.240 from the late eighties stuff where the JLA disbands and 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.400 you have Justice League International. So it's going to be 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.960 interesting to know if there was ever a Justice League 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:53.360 of America in this. I don't know, but yeah, it 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.480 expect him to be very sassy. I had originally thought 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.240 they cast a little bit old with him with Nathan Fillion, 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.920 but from this, I just love it. And obviously I 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.320 love a uniform, so it's great to see them all 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:05.160 in their jackets. 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:11.080 Prediction he dies next. 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:12.040 Jason said, he dies so quickly. 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:13.680 Mister terrific. 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.600 Uh yeah, mister Terrific. One of the coolest characters from 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:22.200 DC originally John Alstranded Tim Mandreat character. I mean, those 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:26.400 are two legends spect volume three, issue fifty four, and 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:33.360 basically he is Michael Holt, and he is this very cool, 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:38.800 super intelligent He was an incredible reader as a young kid. 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.960 That's what it always is. He's like understanding theoretical physics. 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:45.960 He's very much in that read Richard's space for DC. Sadly, 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.520 like many superheroes, as he grew older, his family died, 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:53.320 his wife, a numberne child died, and he was basically 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:58.320 saved by this Specter who introduced him to the original 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:03.800 Golden Age here known as mister Terrific. And then Holt 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:07.679 was inspired by that to use his intense intelligence to 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:12.040 create these nanites. I actually I guess that there is 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.480 a version in the comics where the nanites make up 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:16.919 the mask on his face, so that's probably what we're seeing. 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.199 And he has this really rad jacket, which if you 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:21.800 like the CW stuff, you probably saw Echo Kellam play 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.520 him as the fair play on the side, and he 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.919 can essentially make the nanites kind of do what he wants, 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.080 and he turns them into these cool balls and throws 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:34.080 them at people. His kind of biggest rivalry, hilariously is 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.879 with Batman. We'll talk about Batman and the lack of 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:41.040 Batman in this universe in a minute. Also has storylines 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:43.320 with like the brother I and stuff, So maybe that 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.639 is what we're seeing big part of Kingdom Come, which 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:50.320 I do think James Gunn is probably working up to. Yeah, 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.560 really badass character. I think this could become the fan 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:58.400 fave kind of dark horse character going into this universe. 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:00.399 Uh, hot girl. 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.879 If you love a romance, then this is the character 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:05.920 for you. You may remember seeing Old Hodge as hawk 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:09.520 Man in the already forgotten Black Adam movie, but he 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:11.200 was great. I would be fine with him to bring 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:15.080 him back. We are getting Isabelle McCard here. Fantastic young 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:18.960 actress and basically hawk Girl is a golden age character 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:22.240 who's been reimagined throughout the years. She was originally in 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:25.520 Flashcomics number one from nineteen forty, so this is really 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:30.280 going back. She is depending on the cannon, but this 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:34.359 is the general vibe of it. She is a woman 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:39.720 who was killed in the past and was cursed, and 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:43.560 every time she comes back and is reincarnated, she has 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:47.840 to find her husband, who is Hawkman. She has an 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:52.680 metal morning Star, which is totally badass. She can fly, 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:57.399 and yeah, she's basically like a time traveling kind of 0:18:57.440 --> 0:19:01.400 the Mummy esque adventurer. And then in the Silver Age 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.840 version they kind of became these like space alien cops, 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:09.119 kind of akin to Green Lantern Thanagarian police officers. And 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:13.000 basically throughout that kind of idea of them constantly being 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.840 reincarnated and coming back again and again and finding each 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:17.919 other has been a key part of their law. It 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:22.639 was even introduced within the Black Adam Law for hawk Man. 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.040 I'll be interested to see how they do it here 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:28.240 because James Gunn has talked extensively about this being grounded 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:30.840 but also about wanting to bring in all the law, 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.679 so it'll be interesting to see. Very excited to see how. 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:37.280 I think she's a super popular character, very iconic from 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:40.000 the animated series, so if they can get this right, 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:44.400 this could be a ten year plan MCU style big. 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:46.680 Character uh Metamorpho. 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:52.000 Chemical period is one of the weirdos and also one 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:54.880 of the best bits of casting that has come out. 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:58.320 I mean, the David Corn sweat casting is obviously weird, 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.600 seeing iconic, it's like a home run, looks like a 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:03.600 home run, but this one was the one that everyone 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:08.080 got really really excited about. Noha Hank himself. Anthony Carrigan 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:12.200 as Metamorpho, one of the most famous Bold characters, another 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:15.760 late sixties character in nineteen sixty five, originally from Brave 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:18.560 in the Bald fifty seven by Ramona fre Don, one 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:22.400 of the legendary female comic creators who we sadly lost 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:25.439 earlier this year, luckily at the ripe old age of 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:29.040 her late nineties. She's an aquaman legend, a nay More legend, 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:32.640 a submariner legend. She is just a legend and always 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:40.399 love Ramona forre Don and basically Metamorpho. He was a 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:43.639 member of the Outsiders. He's been in the Justice League. 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:48.040 He was a guy called Rect Mason who worked for 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:53.120 an industrial organization called Stag Enterprises. He had to retrieve 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:57.200 a rare Egyptian artist. Never do that, as you will 0:20:57.200 --> 0:21:01.440 see lots of Egyptian style mummy s adventure characters being 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:08.399 included here. He essentially ended up dating his boss's daughter. 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:11.199 Also never do that. So Simon Stagg didn't like that, 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:13.680 decided he was going to try and kill him, and 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:19.160 eventually the Egyptian artifact called the orb of Ra kind 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:23.640 of like transformed him into Metamorpho. Was it a radioactive meteorite? 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:28.040 Was it something magical? Depends on your cannon. But his 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:35.720 powers are very interesting because he is not someone who 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:38.960 can have a secret identity, which I think is like 0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:42.760 a he looks like that all the time, and in 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:45.639 he looks jacked up, and in the glimpse that we 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:47.600 get of him here he looks real jacked up. 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:50.560 Now, can I make a prediction really quickly? Please, Metamorpho? 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:55.480 Can you know, change his body into various chemical compounds? 0:21:56.640 --> 0:22:00.000 I think that's how. I think that's how Lex gets Kryptonite. 0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:03.119 I think he forces Metamorpho to turn into Cryptonize. 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:05.480 And I was gonna say, I wouldn't be surprised if 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:08.639 because of the fact that Clark can live a completely 0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:12.560 normal life by just putting on glasses, I wouldn't be 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:17.399 surprised if Metamorpho is at first an antagonist who is 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:21.479 maybe easily emotionally manipulated bilex into being like, look at 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.480 this man who can have everything he wants that you 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:26.959 can't have. And then yeah, that's how because we do 0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:29.520 get in this trailer as well, we get a momentary 0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:33.720 glimpse of Nicholas Holt's Lex looks great with an old 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:36.840 school pistol, like a silver pistol, and I think it's 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:40.199 obviously going to have cryptical bullet in the Kryptonite bullet, 0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:44.119 of course. So yeah, I think this is going to 0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:49.080 be very interesting and I'm very excited to see Metamorpho 0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:51.679 is one of the most interesting weird characters, and I 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:55.879 think with James Gunn at the Helm, we will likely 0:22:55.920 --> 0:23:00.920 get a very interesting, intense kind of exploration of what 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:03.200 it is like to be a freak in the world 0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:07.200 where superheroes are kind of accepted. So yeah, I'm I'm 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:11.480 really really excited about that, Jason, Which character are you 0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:13.960 most excited to see more of after the train? 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:18.240 I mean, probably Crypto, but also yeah, you know, but 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:19.840 also the Babe. 0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:23.120 Did you know guy? And mister Terrific. 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:25.280