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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,

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Speaker 1: before we get to this week's episode, I want to

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Speaker 1: remind you guys to purchase my book No Holds Barred,

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Speaker 1: a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power, So feel

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Speaker 1: free to go to your local bookstores preferably queer owned,

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Speaker 1: black owned, or woman owned to support them, but also

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Speaker 1: just click the button on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, or

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Speaker 1: wherever you read your books. Again. That is No Holds Barred,

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Speaker 1: a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power written by

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Speaker 1: yours truly and my co host of the Decisions Decisions podcasts, Weezy.

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Speaker 1: Make sure y'all get that. Now let's get to this

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Speaker 1: week's episode. This is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance,

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Speaker 1: a production of The Black Effect Podcast Network and Iart Radio.

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Speaker 1: It's your Girl, Mandy B. Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of Selective Ignorance, the podcast where we admit loudly that

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Speaker 1: we see everything and then we for attend that we didn't. Today,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the monster in our pockets now not

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Speaker 1: do it at the top of the money. Talking about

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Speaker 1: social media, the apps that you swear you're just checking

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Speaker 1: real quick, and then suddenly it's two am and you're

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Speaker 1: mad at somebody you don't know. Oh god, and you've

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Speaker 1: aged about three years in the process. Here's the question, though,

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Speaker 1: at what point do we say enough is enough? When

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Speaker 1: do we log off? Close the app? In a minute? Yep?

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Speaker 1: Maybe the Internet isn't a real place, So why am

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Speaker 1: I letting it wreck my life emotions? Because one minute

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Speaker 1: you're laughing at a meme and the next year is

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Speaker 1: spiraling over some stranger's hot take, or whether Beyonce can

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Speaker 1: sing or not, whether Bad Boney is Mexican or Puerto Rican,

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Speaker 1: or the ice is going to be outside of the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl or not. Yes, I'm referencing one of our

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Speaker 1: recent episodes. Here's the question, though, when do we break

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Speaker 1: this cycle? Right? We consume, we scroll, we laugh, we cry,

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Speaker 1: we rage, comment, and then we wonder why our moods

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Speaker 1: feel like they're on shuffle. The wildest part, we let

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Speaker 1: it happen to ourselves. We let timelines, trending topics, and

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Speaker 1: troll accounts have more influence on our mental health than

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Speaker 1: actual people in our real lives. And yes, y'all, I'm

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Speaker 1: a victim to it too. A cop on this goddamn

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Speaker 1: microphone almost weekly and cuts y'all out for saying something

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Speaker 1: about me that I disagree with. But today we're diving

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Speaker 1: into it. From the viral stories that make you question

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Speaker 1: humanity to the tweets that have you rethinking your sanity,

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Speaker 1: we're unpacking how the things we consume online latch onto

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Speaker 1: our moods and how to know when it's time to

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Speaker 1: pull it all back, because if we don't learn to

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Speaker 1: set the boundary, we'll keep living in a world where

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Speaker 1: our happiness is held hostage by Wi fi in these

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Speaker 1: goddamn apps. And you can't blame Elin or Trump for everything. Okay, Anyways, y'all,

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Speaker 1: I'm diving into it this week with my super produces

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Speaker 1: A King and Puerto Rican Jessome. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: if Jesson that some more Italian than Puerto Rican, but

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Speaker 1: I'm even that. Listen, I was in I was in

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Speaker 1: the south of France saying gracias, so I give up?

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Speaker 1: Why are you looking at me like that?

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Speaker 2: She started the entire series what podcast show in patois

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Speaker 3: And now we're doing France.

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Speaker 1: You know, and I thought it was Spinyo, you know,

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Speaker 1: in honor of the Super Bowl. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: what that accident is. I'm really bad with accents, and.

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Speaker 3: Apparently Puerto Rican don't do that. When I first met

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Speaker 3: you know what the problem is that?

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Speaker 1: No, it's given racism. No, you were called ice on

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Speaker 1: me not knowing nothing.

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Speaker 4: They said, they said, Mandy's like the Vin Diesel podcast.

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Speaker 3: You could be anything.

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Speaker 1: Now you know, that's a goddamn lie, y'all. She was

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Speaker 1: gonna be ignorant early.

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Speaker 2: She had all the characteristics, light skin, she was residing

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Speaker 3: Like, okay, she's automatically that My thing was issue dominic

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Speaker 1: First off, if I'm in the Bronx, the bitch could

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Speaker 1: have been on gun Hill Road with the with the Jamaicans. Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much, like both of y'all.

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Speaker 2: Actually, because it was you and if you use by yourself,

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Speaker 2: maybe the laws of probability would have been in that favor.

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Speaker 1: When we ever into the room together, did you ever

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Speaker 1: hear me say.

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Speaker 2: A lot when when you're before, before they spoke, they spoke,

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Speaker 2: All right, we are.

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Speaker 1: Leading into the ignorance here.

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Speaker 3: That's a great question. Is that a Florida thing, monster

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Speaker 3: in your pocket? The rent?

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Speaker 1: Is that a Florida You don't so you don't know

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Speaker 1: about the rent being dude.

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Speaker 5: I know it's crazy because y'all niggas wanted to pause

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Speaker 5: me and I can talk about monsters being in pockets.

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Speaker 1: Are y'all mad because y'all monster?

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Speaker 3: Then because it's you monster.

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Speaker 4: But then when you said not the rent about social media,

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Speaker 4: and I was like yo, I was like, people called

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Speaker 4: the rent the monster in your pocket?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. No, I mean, I mean it's a

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Speaker 3: I'm not have to go on chet chept and check that out.

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Speaker 1: Here we go go ask chat. I'll be asking a

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Speaker 1: chat everything. I mean, you Aki who edits all the episodes?

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Speaker 1: Literally said bro? He said? He said, Bro, that episode

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Speaker 1: last week with you and Carlo, he said, I went

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Speaker 1: from being mad at you to being mad at her

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Speaker 1: and didn't know who I was more mad at.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: So when Carla was on the on the episode before

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Speaker 2: the Purple Party heard Ray Daniels was on there, they

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Speaker 2: was crazy, both of them. But but then the one

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Speaker 2: today I'm going not today. When I was doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what the fuck? Who is you know?

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Speaker 2: You just leaning into your you just it sounded like

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Speaker 2: you don't want no parts of what religion has to offer.

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Speaker 3: We haven't done the premises of hope.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to do a religious episode because so

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Speaker 1: and I guess we'll start with the little with the Well,

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Speaker 1: if you guys listened to last week I talked about

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Speaker 1: Like was it a coon or were they born into it?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean all religions have niggas who went to jail.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. I'm talking about did he find

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Speaker 1: religion in jail? That is different than being born and

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Speaker 3: Find religion in jail is not legitimate.

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Speaker 1: You're not You're not gonna sit here at the top

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Speaker 1: When we talk about my health, you want to I'm

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Speaker 1: stressed up. Everybody is poor, Okay, so you know what's crazy?

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Speaker 1: I aligned kind of when when somebody goes to jail

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Speaker 1: and finds church is the same way I be viewing

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Speaker 1: bitches who break up with a nigga and then find

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Speaker 1: God like like when you have to and to me,

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Speaker 1: when you when it stems from you being at the bottom.

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Speaker 3: I found Jesus today, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: I mean, and I do believe in people being able

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Speaker 1: to shift in their journeys whatever that.

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Speaker 2: Looks like, and things will spook you out to find

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Speaker 2: a spiritual source.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's why questions.

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna hold you. That's why it maybe mad

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Speaker 1: I text one of my little booze because he asked

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Speaker 1: me if I listened to the Lucci album and I

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Speaker 1: did time and niggas tried to kill him, so I

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Speaker 1: knew there was a hit on his life. And literally

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Speaker 1: he's asking me about this album and I was like,

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Speaker 1: on the internet. Y'all know that the phones be listening

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Speaker 1: to us. The monster in your pocket, you know they'd

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Speaker 1: be listening to you. So the first thing on my

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Speaker 1: timeline is this fat fuck no talking to Zoe Spencer,

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Speaker 1: a streamer telling this little girl that she need to

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Speaker 1: get her titties done, sitting there looking like a raggedy ass.

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Speaker 1: Fuck what so I'm like, bruh, there was a hit

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Speaker 1: on your life. You went to jail, you got out,

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Speaker 1: you got a second chance at life, and you out

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Speaker 1: here gonna spend spend your life living telling bitches they

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Speaker 1: gotta get their titties done when you got bigger titties

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Speaker 1: than she do.

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Speaker 4: Maybe, but that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he's a health Maybe he's a health avoge.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well she didn't. Let's be like you leaning into

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Speaker 1: like she beat cancer. It's crazy also, but Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 2: They know this, it is fuck shit, but they just

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Speaker 1: I guess it didn't work because it said it made

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Speaker 1: me be like, oh, I ain't listened to I ain't

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Speaker 1: I be mad. Bro, I used to love Thug. I

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Speaker 1: like and we'll get into a clip from Thug later.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get into it, but I did want to

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Speaker 1: And it became just real Opograd. It was really bad.

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Speaker 1: a teetering conversation of whether what we do as podcasters

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Speaker 1: are journalists, right. And so we get on the red

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Speaker 1: room and sit down because it's chaos out here, right.

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Speaker 1: So we finally get on the carpet. When you get

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Speaker 1: on the carpet, there's someone that holds a sign with

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Speaker 1: your first name, last name, what you are, especially if

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Speaker 1: Getty is on the carpet right, just so that they

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Speaker 1: know where to place you. So we're going down the carpet.

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Speaker 1: It was very unorganized. It wasn't like previous red carpets

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Speaker 1: I had been to before. But we go down the line,

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Speaker 1: we take our pictures. At the end of it, it's

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Speaker 1: press and this is where it gets a little chaotic.

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Speaker 1: Now I do before I get into talking shit and

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Speaker 1: asking Jason his experience. So Neighborhood Talk is the first

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Speaker 1: to Neighborhood Talk because baby, they immediately know who we are,

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Speaker 3: Well what is it that you?

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Speaker 1: They don't even want to feed you. They just like

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I got my own radio,

432
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Speaker 1: so now I'm really not coming on. Like I do

433
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 1: a lot of work.

434
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Speaker 2: When the pandemic happened, right, I notice people searching for

435
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 2: jobs and trying to figure it out why it was

436
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 2: at home. And one of the things they did they

437
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 2: were going Instagram, Twitter or x now and they would

438
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 2: change their bio. Everybody became a content creator. Everybody became

439
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 2: an executive producer of nothing. It was just all these

440
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 2: titles of nothingness. So I think that this is the

441
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 2: this is the end result of that. You know where

442
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 2: you got said journalists, right, Jason. There's people that I

443
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 2: know as journalists because they're documenting the definition of journalists

444
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 2: to journal document culture, whatever it is, news, sports, music,

445
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 2: whatever it is. These guys, these people aren't documenting. They're

446
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 2: just there for the look. Yeah, you know what I mean.

447
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 2: At some point we either had to reset this whole

448
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: shit continue to reset, because I think we in the reset.

449
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Speaker 3: And and just like.

450
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Speaker 2: You was able to mention all those qualifications, all those accolades,

451
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 2: like if you're not there that on that bar, you

452
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 2: can't call yourself that creator or or you can.

453
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Speaker 1: Be someone really green, well you could be someone really green.

454
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: But if I see you out and you are executing

455
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Speaker 1: your ship in a professional manner, Bro, I respect that. Like,

456
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: don't come out here and just think somebody owe you

457
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Speaker 1: a conversation because you're gonna throw them in their base.

458
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Speaker 1: Bro asking for a drop was grave.

459
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Speaker 3: Drop only drop crazy? Well, and yes, Mandy and Weezy

460
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 3: and they're like, oh Mandy and Wheezy.

461
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Speaker 1: We'll see maybe maybe maybe they don't know Mandy and

462
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Speaker 1: Wheezy or I don't know child. Well, we're gonna bring

463
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Speaker 1: it back. I don't think I've done it for a

464
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Speaker 1: little bit, especially here with my producers. We are going

465
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Speaker 1: to double down or take it back. And have I

466
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Speaker 1: taken back anything yet?

467
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Speaker 3: No, of course not.

468
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Speaker 2: But Jason, how much of her not taking it back?

469
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Speaker 2: You think that's just her be a stubborn.

470
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Speaker 4: It's like when we had salary and he was like,

471
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Speaker 4: my brand is I can't I can't take it back

472
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 4: again my brand?

473
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Speaker 3: Right?

474
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Speaker 1: Okay, what I have to say here?

475
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Speaker 3: You want to set it up first?

476
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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well I'm looking. I'm looking at the clip

477
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: now and so it looks like you're pulling a clip.

478
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Speaker 1: By the way, if you guys have it yet. I

479
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: was on the Knee to Know podcasts with save Von

480
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 1: and Alex a couple of weeks ago. We did talk

481
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Speaker 1: about the Cardi album, but they also decided to ask

482
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Speaker 1: me this, so let's see, all.

483
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Speaker 6: Right, one thing you love and one thing you hate

484
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Speaker 6: about gen Z.

485
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Speaker 3: The thing that.

486
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Speaker 7: I love about gen Z they're much more open to

487
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 7: not leaning into super traditional ways and mindsets of thinking.

488
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Speaker 7: And then the thing that I hate about gen Z

489
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Speaker 7: stop making all these dances.

490
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Speaker 3: Like what you do as.

491
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Speaker 1: A non dancer.

492
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Speaker 4: Take the library, right, I can do that.

493
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Speaker 1: The hardest one with y'all bringing the Harlem shake up

494
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: to me, I would say, that's the thing I hate everything. Okay,

495
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Speaker 1: I mean, I clearly stand by this. It's crazy because

496
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Speaker 1: one of the things that I didn't mention that I

497
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Speaker 1: that I hate about gen Zers was actually kind of

498
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: a little bit about my right now. I do think

499
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Speaker 1: that they're lazy and entitled as well, but in terms

500
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Speaker 1: of how they show up in relationships, they're a little

501
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: bit more open to breaking the norms, and clearly they're

502
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Speaker 1: a lot more in tune with their mental health. I

503
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Speaker 1: think so.

504
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Speaker 3: I think think they do that because that's part of

505
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Speaker 3: being lazy.

506
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Speaker 2: Wait, what do you mean they're not going to do

507
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 2: They're not gonna they're not gonna go to they're not

508
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 2: going to extra mile right.

509
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Speaker 1: Oh, you think you think them being lazy is tied

510
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Speaker 1: to knowing about their mental health.

511
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Speaker 3: I don't think they know about that. Ship.

512
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Speaker 1: Oh.

513
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Speaker 2: I think they're very anti social Okay, they are that

514
00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 2: and the pandemic, the pandemic dis damage. These are kids

515
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 2: who became adults and missed that four year block of interaction.

516
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I couldn't imagine that didn't get graduation job hunt.

517
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Speaker 2: I'm looking yeah, I'm looking at how kids are of

518
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: job age and they're applying and they're expecting, and they're

519
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 2: quitting out the out the gate. They're like giving up,

520
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 2: like all right, you don't get an answer back, you

521
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: keep pushing.

522
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Speaker 1: Let me let me ask both of y'all questions, because

523
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: y'all real old in.

524
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Speaker 3: Terms of you're about to be a birthday coming and.

525
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: I'm about to be twenty five, okay, So let me

526
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Speaker 1: ask you then if we're leaning on even this topic,

527
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Speaker 1: and I want to compare y'all generation y'all are y'all

528
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: y'all ate millennials right, y'all the ones above it?

529
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Speaker 3: No, yeah, I'm telling it.

530
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I thought.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what gen X I guess Yeah, how

532
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Speaker 3: are you?

533
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Speaker 1: Okay? X? So we got Gen X millennials and we're

534
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Speaker 1: both talking about.

535
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Speaker 3: X Y Z.

536
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Speaker 2: A.

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Speaker 3: Can you could be a zennial too? That's what you're

538
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Speaker 3: the last in between?

539
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Speaker 2: Because of character though, but because I reli.

540
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Speaker 1: Browser tabs, yo, thiggas want to be young, so bad

541
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 1: but anyway, so let me let me ask y'all then

542
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Speaker 1: if y'all can go back with the knowledge you have

543
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: now about how these companies don't really give a fuck

544
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: about you, about PTO, about really like this idea of

545
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: going the extra mile and showing up every day on time,

546
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: or showing in early and staying late and giving giving

547
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Speaker 1: a company all you got, even at the expense of

548
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: your mental health. If you knew what you knew today,

549
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: how you operated back then in whatever settings that made

550
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: you show up that way, would you do it the

551
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Speaker 1: same way and why or would you show up kind

552
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Speaker 1: of like these gen zs where no, this doesn't feel

553
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: good for me. I don't like it here, it's making

554
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: me miserable. I need to stop focus on me and

555
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 1: go somewhere that makes me happy, which is kind of

556
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: how they operate, you know what I mean.

557
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Speaker 4: I appreciate that, yet you do gen Z is like

558
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 4: the boundaries generation. Yeah, boundaries, and I would I would

559
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 4: still do it the same way and still hustle hard

560
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 4: and and like grind it out, but I would also

561
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 4: be cognizant like to your point, like I would have

562
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 4: tried to learn the lesson that like they don't care

563
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 4: about you earlier and really like rallied my peers to

564
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 4: start something on our own more right, Like there's an

565
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 4: expiration on this because they don't care about us. So

566
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 4: like let's get in, get bread, get the experience, and

567
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 4: a five years from now, like let's start.

568
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Speaker 1: You know, I definitely think that there was a brain.

569
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't I wouldn't have looked for like the comfort.

570
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: I think that's the thing. There was a brainwashing element

571
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: that if you do everything right, that you're gonna retire

572
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: with the money you need to and that this company

573
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: would look out for you, right Like there was almost

574
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Speaker 1: a false sense of loyalty to a company that I

575
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: think even we as millennials adopted. We believe that, which

576
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: is why we're all in fucking debt right now getting

577
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: all the degrees that people said, if you get these

578
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: degrees and get these type of jobs, you'll line yourself

579
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Speaker 1: up to be perfect or and millennials are the most

580
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,479
Speaker 1: over educated and least employed generation that we've seen. And

581
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: so for me, I mean there is an element of laziness, yes,

582
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: especially when I talk about interns, because for you to

583
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: come and want to get paid top dollar when you

584
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: don't know the craft or don't have a skill is tricky.

585
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: But I also understand kind of demanding your worth and

586
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: knowing that these fucking companies will even do a goddamn

587
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Speaker 1: U free.

588
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I also think there's a difference between demanding

589
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 4: your worth and like wanting to be paid for your potential.

590
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 3: Right.

591
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 4: And that's the thing that I was worry about, like

592
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 4: with young people, right, Like there's and also too, like

593
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 4: a king mentioned it, like missing that four years of interaction,

594
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 4: whether it was like your high school years or your

595
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 4: college year.

596
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Speaker 3: Development. Yeah, there's life development. And you know life development includes.

597
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 4: Setbacks, yes, right, like setbacks break adversity, right, and and

598
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 4: how you adapt to that so that way when you

599
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 4: get into the working force, you know, like you'll know

600
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 4: how to respond to like challenges, right, and like you

601
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 4: know you'll you'll also you'll be well equipped for like

602
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 4: your first like professional heartbreak, like you know, like we

603
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 4: all have. Like you'll get your career and you say,

604
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 4: like I'm following in it. This is where I wanted

605
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 4: to be. And then and efdably you'll get fired because

606
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 4: this is companies and that's just America. But you'll have

607
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 4: your heart laid off. Even better, you'll probably get laid off.

608
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Speaker 4: And it's like I thought I was going to be

609
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Speaker 4: here for five and ten years, and next year, like

610
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 4: I did a year at the place, and you know,

611
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 4: now you're like that affects you for your next job role,

612
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 4: and you know you have to you have to be

613
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 4: able to learn how to like take the punches and

614
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 4: keep going. Not not to like simplify it, but you

615
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 4: know there's an element of like you have to manage

616
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 4: yourself and it's not all about your comfort at the beginning.

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00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 4: There's a trade off of sort of like what you're

618
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 4: trying to take away, which is experience.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because a lot of people, well you know,

620
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Speaker 1: we've that conversation.

621
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Speaker 3: What have you.

622
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Speaker 1: For y'all listeners? And if your job isn't giving you

623
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: the money, unfortunately you have to stay because the job

624
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: markets hold on to that job. I would never tell

625
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: nobody to quit a job. I wouldn't tell a friend

626
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: to stop selling pusy. I wouldn't tell a drug dealer

627
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: stop selling drugs. I'm not telling anybody to stop making

628
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: the money how they're making it right now, because maybe

629
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Speaker 1: it's tricky out here it's very, very tricky. Well, let's

630
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: get down for some ignorance. And in this way, it's

631
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: gonna be also the way in which we show up

632
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: ignorantly to ourselves, not realizing that we are torturing ourselves

633
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: by digging through the clips online and what they have

634
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Speaker 1: to say. But I'm gonna have a little phone with this.

635
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop some clips that maybe you have come

636
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: across your timeline, and then we're gonna talk about it,

637
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna talk about how it probably triggered you.

638
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: So where do we want to start first? Can I

639
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: just trigger the ladies first? Actually, because here's the problem. No, no, no, okay, no,

640
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you why I'm about to

641
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: trigger you, but I would love for you all to

642
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: listen to this clip. Shout out to Trill. He joins me.

643
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: On tonight's conversations, you have most likely, if you like

644
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: hearing men that know how to speak, well, you have

645
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: most likely seen his clips. And I want to play

646
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: this clip because it did. It did stir up an

647
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: emotion in me as soon as I heard it. So Jason,

648
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: run the clip. Please.

649
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 6: A woman really like you because when she want to

651
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 6: spend every second of her free time with you, every

652
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 6: second of it. No, it's addration, like almost to an

653
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 6: irrational sense. You understand what I'm saying, Like she could

654
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 6: get an invite to go out with the girls. Nah,

655
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 6: I want to spend some time with my man. I

656
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 6: want to lay up under my man. I want to

657
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 6: talk to my man. I want to see my man,

658
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 6: Like that's the energy that she coming with. You understands

659
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 6: so many men out here dating women. You know, he's

660
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 6: struggling to get on the phone, like he's struggling to

661
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 6: link up order to go out on a date, Like

662
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 6: he's struggling to get his text returned in a timely fashion.

663
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 6: Like that's how you know you day. No woman who

664
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 6: don't really rock with you like that, because a woman

665
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 6: who like you, she gonna be callingstand like there's nothing

666
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 6: more that she want to do after she take care

667
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 6: of her business and spend time with her man. So

668
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 6: if that's not the energy you're getting, Like if you're

669
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 6: struggling to link you struggling to talk to her, you

670
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 6: struggling to spend time with her, it's time for you

671
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 6: to find another woman because she ain't.

672
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 3: It wa he's not wrong. I don't think he's wrong.

673
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: I do think that this hold on this.

674
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: I think if somebody interested in someone, that the natural

675
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: thing is they are going to occupy time that whether

676
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: whether his phone calls, whether in person, the desire and

677
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: the curio to be there.

678
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: You are watering the issue.

679
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: You are watering it down. This man said, if her

680
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: friends invite her out, It's like, this is to me

681
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: a form of how the internet will brainwash you to

682
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: make you feel No. This is this is brainwashing one

683
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: on one. This is pure tactic, pure tactic manipulation on

684
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: a man who literally wants to isolate a woman or

685
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: make a woman feel as though if she is not

686
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: all about her man, then she isn't really showing up

687
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: up for the man. Hear me out. He says in

688
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: there that a woman that's really into you gonna call

689
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: out on her friends to come be with you as

690
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: a man. A woman wants to spend all of her

691
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: free time with her man. A man, you're not gonna

692
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: have a problem getting her on the phone. All these things.

693
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: Mind you, guess what we gotta do is women pay

694
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: our goddamn bills because y'all ain't provided us no more

695
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: so you telling me that I have to overcompensate myself

696
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: to be only with you on the outside of me

697
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: working whatever job I have because I'm paying my own bills, right,

698
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: And then for you to even manipulate any woman watching

699
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: that to believe that, damn, my man's not gonna believe

700
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: I'm into him if I hang with my friends, Like,

701
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: there's a part of our mental health that has to

702
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: exist in our relationships that allow us to still be

703
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: ourselves and not lose who we are. Our friends and

704
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: hanging out with them is a part of us still

705
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: existing in our own world as a as a woman

706
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: being in any relationship, if a man tells you you

707
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: have to live in his skin to show him that

708
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: you love him or you really fuck with him, I

709
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: have a problem with that being the rhetoric because what

710
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: it does is it isolates you as a woman and

711
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: essentially will eventually turn you into being someone that you're

712
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: not because you're living now for this man, you're not

713
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: even living for yourself.

714
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 3: Is he suggesting that that is the requirement and that

715
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 3: story right?

716
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: Because because I was just saying that the natural desire,

717
00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that that.

718
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: Is actually he said, do you know how.

719
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: Suffocating? No one should be suffocating.

720
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: Any What was the question there though, or what was

721
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: the caption? Literally was do you know how a woman?

722
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: How you know as a man that a woman really

723
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: likes you? This is that's literally what the sentiment was.

724
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: So the idea that if I'm not canceling on all

725
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: my life plans and have my whole life, that I'm

726
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: not that into you, that's crazy, that's so ye yo.

727
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 3: So you listen to this podcast that this clip came from.

728
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: I listened to his clips and I and I hold

729
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: on and I've toured with with Trilling enough to where

730
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: I've told him in his face of goddamn enough that

731
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: he pissed me off with this goddamn.

732
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 3: Here's the thing you put goddamn clip.

733
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: You put strings over a clip and an led sign

734
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: behind a nigga and he swear he done became goddamn

735
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey dropping act like a woman, thinking like a man.

736
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: Thirty seven.

737
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that has a whole movie score behind.

738
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 4: But it's on thing too that the caption says, a

739
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 4: woman that all caps really likes you.

740
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 3: All caps, all your time.

741
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 4: But then there's a laughing emoti with it right, and

742
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 4: so to me, the clip is confusing because with him

743
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 4: saying fellas if you're struggling to get text backs, callbacks

744
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 4: or whatever, like drop her, you want a woman that

745
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 4: wants to spend your time, that that isolated alone. I

746
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 4: can agree with that sentiment, but like the score, the caption,

747
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 4: the laughing emoji, I'm like, it's performed.

748
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 3: I can't tell who he's laughing at. Are you taking

749
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 3: shots at the.

750
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 4: Girl for being like clinging or are you taking shots

751
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 4: at the dude for being played like? I can't even

752
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 4: like tell you my take on it because I'm so

753
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 4: confused by the execution.

754
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: I think this should be a difference between desire and expectations.

755
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 3: Well, what your desire is.

756
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 2: Always going to be like damn want to call her

757
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 2: or she want to call me or those things. I

758
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: want to spend time, But will it happen? It is impossible.

759
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 3: He can't give somebody twenty four hours. There can't. We

760
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 3: gotta make money.

761
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: He asked it for the other twelve hours she ain't

762
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: at work. Got to be up on it at him.

763
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: I think here here's my problem with the way these

764
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: types of topics are framed in social media. Right yes,

765
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: So when I get on a microphone, I share about

766
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: how I navigate my relationships, why, how am I own trauma,

767
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: what I'm working through all of those things? Right, when

768
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: we see these type of clips, we we almost feel

769
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: the need to adapt these things, especially if our dating

770
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: lives or relationships aren't working out right. So we're going

771
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 1: to social media to tell us, damn, I'm wrong, I'm

772
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 1: not treating this man like I should. We have men

773
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: now thinking in their minds that, oh, this bitch ain't

774
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: always up under my skin, she don't really like me.

775
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: And so inevitably, what we have doing is we're being

776
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: coached by these people that are literally just they just

777
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: are saying the things that they know is gonna sound

778
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: good under a pair of strings or a harp. And no, no,

779
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: they're completely non expert. But when we watch these, mind

780
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 1: you you know how the algorithm works. If you stay

781
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 1: and watch that entire clip, guess what's gonna be fed

782
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: to you a lot more clips like that, And so

783
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: what's inevitably gonna happen is now everything in which you

784
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: thought you were doing right, you're now questioning, and in

785
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: terms of how you're navigating your own relationships instead of

786
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: talking to the woman or the man that you're dating

787
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: and figuring out what makes you feel good, You're like, wait,

788
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: my man really going to hang out with his friends.

789
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: He must not like me that much. Damn that she

790
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: going to do a girl's night and she don't want

791
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: to hang with me. That bitch don't really like me.

792
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: And so what we're doing is we're naturally internalizing these

793
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: things we're battling with ourselves, and because of the pandemic,

794
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: because we don't know how to craft these conversations with

795
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: people when things really affect us or impact us emotionally,

796
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: we start questioning ourselves and then we literally, damn, are

797
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: we really together? Does he really like me? Is he

798
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: cheating on me? Do that? And and we do it

799
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: to ourselves because bitch, you watched the whole goddamn clip.

800
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 3: Don't tap.

801
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: You know?

802
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 4: It's interesting too, like and thank you for sharing that

803
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 4: manny too, because I wanted you. I wanted to kind

804
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 4: of get under like what you were feeling about.

805
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: You wanted to get in my skin.

806
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 4: Well, no, because it's funny, because again the setup of

807
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 4: the clip is confusing, but but also to like when

808
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 4: I see these clips and when you say, like you know,

809
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 4: people are being coached by it's also like people who

810
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 4: are experts at the start of a relationship, Like the

811
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 4: start of the relationship is like infatuation, right, and of

812
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 4: course you want to be with that person all the

813
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 4: time because it's so new, right, And it's like my

814
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 4: wife wants her own time, right because we're so far

815
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 4: from the beginning at this point, you know what I mean.

816
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 4: And so it's like when I see clips like this,

817
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 4: and it's like, uh uh, you know, I don't know

818
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 4: if you calls himself an expert or not, but it's

819
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 4: like when you're saying you like if your woman's not

820
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 4: doing this and you're and you're not doing that, and fellas,

821
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 4: you need to do that, it's to me, it's so

822
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 4: much advice about like the first two months of a relationship,

823
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 4: which is like it's not it's like you don't even

824
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 4: need advice there, just be just be and be joy

825
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 4: and and and just see what it is for what

826
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 4: it is, and if you're together all the time, cool,

827
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,479
Speaker 4: if she has her own agency and you like hanging

828
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 4: out and playing ball with your fellas, like it is

829
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 4: what it is. But like there's sort of like this

830
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 4: like over advice like syndrome that happens for like the

831
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 4: very beginning of relationships. And it's like I'd rather hear

832
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 4: people be like, all right, cool when you're one year

833
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 4: in fellas because a lot of people don't always get

834
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 4: to one year.

835
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 3: Here's some advice you get married? Did you did you

836
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 3: have had a long term when you have a long

837
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 3: term relationship?

838
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: Like we we have to start listening to folks that

839
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 2: what's what's this the girl that was on the early

840
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 2: selected Ignorance the marriage?

841
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 3: Oh, she was dope.

842
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: So align with Alison while if she's here, where do

843
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: they come into play?

844
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 3: When she's actually.

845
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: Well no, and that's the thing. But she's an expert

846
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: with an end goal and someone to listen to. If

847
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: you align with that person, I think that's the other thing.

848
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: We sit here and maybe the clips you're listening to

849
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: don't align with what works for you. Like I wouldn't

850
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: sit and take in all of Alison's content because I

851
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: don't My end goal is at marriage.

852
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 3: So I think that'sfic.

853
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's very specific. Let's be very clear that.

854
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: Let's be very clear the the the internet, especially these

855
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: type of dating rhetorics have fucked y'all up so much

856
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: that now you can't go enjoy the chicken pacata and

857
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: the and the buffalo wing blasters at the Cheesecake Factory

858
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: because they'd done told you that the cheesecake Factory is

859
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: a bad place to go on a date. And it's

860
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's what I'm talking about, Like, y'all,

861
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: don't let the Internet take the good chicken pacata dish

862
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: away from you, you know what I mean? Like you

863
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: literally end up robbing yourself of these things because the

864
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: places that you once like when the Internet say it's

865
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 1: it's trash or you shouldn't be there, or a man

866
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: if he takes you there, he don't like you. Like

867
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: you're robbing your some of these things because you're listening

868
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: to what the goddamn Internet is telling you. When really, bitch,

869
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: you know you like that chicken pikada, you know you

870
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: like them goddamn chicken wing blasts them buffalo wild wing

871
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: blast before I have my little surgery now because it's

872
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: a lot, it's a lot, but them blast is so

873
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: goddamn good at the cheese Ka Factory, you hear me,

874
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying, Like y'all essentially allow people

875
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: to ruin things for you. Like, if I listen to

876
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: the Internet, I will be mad as hell if a

877
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: nigga took me on a coffee date. Now, if y'all

878
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 1: run the taste back, maybe I said it one time,

879
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: I really like coffee. Now I wouldn't be mad. It

880
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: got to be a nice coffee coffee shop. But I

881
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: actually like coffee. So in my mind, why am I

882
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: mad that a nigga want to take me to a

883
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: coffee shop?

884
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 3: Oh?

885
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: Because the Internet told me if he take you to

886
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: a coffee shop, he don't really like you. There's no effort,

887
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: there's no this. And so we have to like really

888
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: be able to remove ourselves from the echoes of the

889
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: goddamn Internet and sit with what do you like? What

890
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: do you want from a partner?

891
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 3: What?

892
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm someone that needs alone time. Me needing alone time

893
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I like someone less, bro, I'm just working

894
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: with this introverted ass way. And because I have to

895
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: be around people so much, my my social battery has

896
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: to recharge or I'm not going to be a fun

897
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: person to be around. And so it's me acknowledging and

898
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: knowing myself, not listening to what the goddamn internet want

899
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: to tell me?

900
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: How much of our lifetimeline has been altered because of

901
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: social media clips?

902
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 3: Oh so whole episode right there? So much you ever

903
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 3: think about that, Jay like, oh, it's not only influence.

904
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: Right, how much of the course and the journey that

905
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 2: we were on, which is still the unknown, right because

906
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: we don't know, but you have to think that this

907
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 2: influence has led us somewhere else. We've always relationships in

908
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: business and interaction in all the things.

909
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: We've always been influenced, so's to be very clear.

910
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 3: True.

911
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: So when the pop girlies had the low rise jeans on,

912
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: that's what we were all wearing. Right. When the niggas

913
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: had the tall teas down to their ankles, guess what

914
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: they were doing. Those were dresses, but the guys were

915
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 1: wearing the guys were wearing tall teas. Right. And it's

916
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: funny because even if I go back to my space age,

917
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: if we bring it back to social media, at one

918
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: time I was a gang banger. I was a blood

919
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: and not because of anything, but I had a friend blood.

920
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: This was this was.

921
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: Challenge. What happens?

922
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I knew a whole set to I was

923
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: pirate allegedly. Oh I swear, okay, but it's because listen,

924
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: but but I fell into gang banger territory on my

925
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: Space and at the time. But I don't know about

926
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: the h T M LKA now, y'all just laughing every

927
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: But if y'all remember, if y'all remember, back when we

928
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: all used to be coders and learned HTML, there used

929
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: to be these like glitter stickers with the girls that

930
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: looked like brat stalls that were And I had one

931
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: with the God Damn Red you couldn't tell me. And

932
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: then I had uh eight oh no, no, no, I had

933
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: at least at least two or three game Yes, I

934
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: had two three people from the set of Everything every

935
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: Day No facts back facts, And I had this is

936
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: back when Thugget Shruggish Bone was my MySpace song. I

937
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: loved it. Now, I don't know if they're gang bangers,

938
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: but I think I remember some bandanna's hanging out their pockets.

939
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: It was a lot of them, though at the end

940
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: of the they're apparently like coming back or going on

941
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: tour or something, but it's all of them, so it's

942
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: like seven eight niggas. Bro I'm like, hey, I just

943
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: want crazy, lazy wish and like, I don't want all

944
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: other of them, you know what I mean. I love

945
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: both thugs in harmony. Oh my god. Crossroads. Literally, I'm

946
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: in elementary school and they say, what's your favorite song?

947
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: Bro up through fifth grade? Crossroads by both thugs and

948
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: Army was.

949
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: The drop of the being. I think it was like

950
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 3: with George Bush.

951
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: We not we're not against thugs. We're not against but

952
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: we are against those. Yeah, something like that.

953
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 3: Right now, No, my nails do be read.

954
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: I still say no, I'm just lying, guys.

955
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: I just want to point out she did live in

956
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 2: the Bronx and I also lived in Florida.

957
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: But there's no really anyways, going back to that is

958
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: the influence of social media. I think it's always been there, right,

959
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: It's always been there.

960
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 4: But I do I do think it's it's changed a bit.

961
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 4: And I just want to say this at the end

962
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 4: so we can move to next Africa. But I think,

963
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 4: like what you're saying, Mandy too, it's like before it

964
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 4: was like you know, it's it's trends, and it's like

965
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 4: communal trends that happened in our regional pockets. Right, So

966
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 4: That's why I was like in Florida, people were doing this.

967
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 4: In New York, they were doing this in Philly and

968
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 4: d C. They were doing that. But but now when

969
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 4: you talk about my space, so now you're getting like

970
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 4: this like post geographical influence where West Coast stuff is

971
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 4: coming to Orlando and you're banging on.

972
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 3: Your top eight.

973
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 4: And I think that's what like a King's alluding to

974
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 4: when it's like you ever sit and wonder how social

975
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 4: media has altered.

976
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 3: The cource of stuff, and you know, it's an amazing.

977
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 4: Things, right, like it's it's with full court pumps that

978
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 4: you're at handle like it's it's it's changed your life.

979
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 4: But then to a King's point, like it's also altered

980
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 4: things for other people, where now they hear this dude

981
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 4: talking about if your girls up on the YouTube, is

982
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 4: this you know what I mean?

983
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 3: Sure, for sure, we didn't have enough mindspace. They took it.

984
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 3: They took that away from us too quick.

985
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: First off, you probably got on it late because you

986
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:27,479
Speaker 1: were old.

987
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: No, I I was.

988
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: I was on the my Space, I was on friends

989
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: to hold on so much so to where they blocked

990
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: it from my middle school nigga. We knew about VPN before.

991
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: We should have known about vp in because we wanted

992
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: to go make sure we could check our MySpace pages

993
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: and Bloodbird No.

994
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: My Space was like a big part of my early

995
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 2: development into this ship.

996
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was a lot.

997
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 3: Like I said, we were coding before they called it coding.

998
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 4: We're gonna have to do a whole episode on early.

999
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 1: Dmdas now another one that I want to get into

1000
00:47:58,480 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: just because I mentioned them, and I want to make

1001
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: sure we get into it, especially because we're right in

1002
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: relationships before we get to Actually, I want to do

1003
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: kyspannot next. But could you play this clip if you

1004
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: guys haven't seen it floating around the internet. Young Thug

1005
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: has been doing his round on podcast and I wish

1006
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: he would not. He recently sat down on the Pivot

1007
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: podcast with Ryan Clark, Shannon Crowder, and Fred Taylor to

1008
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: discuss a lot of things, not only his new album.

1009
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 1: Y'all know he's just been released from prison off the Rico,

1010
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: and he decided to say this in regards to his

1011
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: views on therapy.

1012
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,959
Speaker 3: Let's get into it big so big, my dad.

1013
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 8: Oh geez, I listened to y'all like it's really a

1014
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 8: slapping face to me if I you know what I'm saying.

1015
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: I was telling my girl that, like, I don't think

1016
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: you need a therapist.

1017
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 8: I don't think I need a therapist. I feel I

1018
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 8: feel like I wouldn't. I feel like I'm not a

1019
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 8: man if my girl get a therapist. It's like, damn,

1020
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 8: you actually will call somebody and listen to what they

1021
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 8: got to stay over me.

1022
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 3: Just listen to what I'm telling you.

1023
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 8: I just feel less of a man.

1024
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 3: That is a wild clip.

1025
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 2: But but but remember this, y'all. Before we embrace the

1026
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: idea of therapy, that was something that was in the community,

1027
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 2: the narrative that therapy.

1028
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 3: Is like a bad.

1029
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 2: Omen like eh therapy, because your stigma was seen as

1030
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 2: a stigma, like that something had to be wrong with

1031
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: you mentally to talk to someone when there's been other

1032
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: cultures that have been embracing this ship for hundreds of years.

1033
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 3: No, I get that I would be with you.

1034
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 4: If the last line was when he said she could

1035
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 4: just listen to me, well.

1036
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: Not only that, and then it followed by he followed

1037
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: that with I would be less of a man. And

1038
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: I think that's the hard part about this, Like if

1039
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: we go back to therapy, right, and the idea of

1040
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: what it was, especially as a millennial in y'all old niggas,

1041
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: it was like, you can't.

1042
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 3: We can't embrace the old because Jim.

1043
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: Date. But but but I loved going to Dodge. Oh wait, wait, wait,

1044
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart. So so here's the thing, right, and I

1045
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: want to share a little bit of my journey with

1046
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: therapy before I tap into why this is so goddamn

1047
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: awful for all of us to just see and take

1048
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: in and unfortunately probably deal with men that are going

1049
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: to adopt this mindset so early on. And this is

1050
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: why I talk about so many people being undiagnosed. I

1051
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: remember my mom not wanting any of me and my

1052
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: sisters to even get checked for any sort of behavioral

1053
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: issues or things like that, because at one point she

1054
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: was like, if you're diagnosed and have to get on

1055
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: certain meds or have to do this, or it's in

1056
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: your chart that you are this, it won't allow you

1057
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: to go into the military, it will hinder you from

1058
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: getting certain jobs in the future. And there was just

1059
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: this stigma that if you were diagnosed, and at that

1060
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: point it was our word and handicap, that's what people

1061
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: was using back then, right if you had anything wrong

1062
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: with you, like even I remember the behavioral classes. We

1063
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: called them the slow kids. Like, if we go back

1064
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: to kind of how we viewed mental health, it wasn't

1065
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: a safe space at all. Fast forward, when we first

1066
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: started Horrible Decisions, I remember Weezy was talking about therapy.

1067
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: She was going heavy in the beginning, and we've kind

1068
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: of switched rolls on that, but I remember, like her

1069
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: asking me about therapy and I was like, bitch, if

1070
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: you gotta go to therapy is because you don't know yourself.

1071
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 1: And I literally be like, I ain't gonna sit across

1072
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: the table and somebody tell me who I am, Like

1073
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: I don't know who I am. And I had that

1074
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: idea of it. Right Fast forward, I'm twenty nine, That's

1075
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 1: when I first started my therapy journey. I'm now about

1076
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: to be thirty five, so I'm five years. Oh it's

1077
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: a good one.

1078
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 3: That was a good one. I like that timely, y'all, y'all.

1079
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: Get all.

1080
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 3: I got damn.

1081
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: But I'm now into therapy where it's transformed, like my

1082
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: everything right, And so when I hear this first off,

1083
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: it immediately screams narcissism and I'm immediately like, Mariah, get

1084
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: away as quick as you can, because I know Mariah's young,

1085
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: You're young, you're impressionable.

1086
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 3: And this man, she's twenty seven and he's thirty four.

1087
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 3: Just for listeners to, oh.

1088
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: She's twenty seven. Oh she and as young as I thought.

1089
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 3: I she's still young.

1090
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: She ain't she as young as I thought she was.

1091
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: I ain't even gonna hold do.

1092
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: We give young thug any grace? Being that he just

1093
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,439
Speaker 2: he just came home and he might not be.

1094
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 3: Years old.

1095
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 6: Now.

1096
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, in terms of where he's at with

1097
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: this conversation, maybe he's just you.

1098
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: About to blame jail and the pandemic.

1099
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 3: Why God damn, he just needs time to collect.

1100
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: To me, here's and I guess here's the problem. We

1101
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: know what our demo is listening to this pod, right,

1102
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: The idea that the thirty four year old millionaire who

1103
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: has a ton of people looking up to him, who

1104
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: has had to be the provider, who has been in

1105
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: all these different types of relationships, that has children, the

1106
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: idea to still give them time when this is the

1107
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: narrative that they're pushing out. No, because what he's doing

1108
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: is poisoning not only all the people around him. When

1109
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: he sits on a platform like the Pivot where hundreds

1110
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: of thousands of specifically black men are tuning in, it's

1111
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: absolutely damaging for how those people respond. We already know

1112
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: the homophobia that exists in our community, right, so if

1113
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: we already tie a man playing in his ass as gay,

1114
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: and we tie outfits and colors and now polished and purposes,

1115
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: and there's all these things that attack a man's manhood

1116
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: and masculinity right already. Now you're saying that if your

1117
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: woman goes to therapy, you're also less than a man.

1118
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: Like that's I think the danger in this rhetoric being

1119
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: displayed on that type of platform. So, no, do we

1120
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: give him more time another what six years for him

1121
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: to fuck say some bullshit like this when the echo

1122
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: chamber is only going to get louder. Now you thirty

1123
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: four years old, nigga, Me and him the same goddamn age. No,

1124
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: I ain't giving him no goddamn grace the fuck and

1125
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: he don't lived a much longer life. Where what did

1126
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: you say earlier about being able to go through heartbreaks

1127
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: and learn from your lessons and all this shit that

1128
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: Nigga was in the streets that Nigga probably like, I

1129
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: think that for a lot of us that had the

1130
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: harder upbringings, bro, we had to learn how to get

1131
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: ourselves on our ass even more times than the person

1132
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: that was fed with the silver spoon. So you have

1133
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: to be able to look at how you treat people,

1134
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 1: what things have made you feel better, and mental health

1135
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: is a large aspect of it. So for you now

1136
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: to tie masculinity and being a.

1137
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 3: Man to whether they're not somebody else over.

1138
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: Someone else's decision to go to therapy, that's crazy, it's manipulative,

1139
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: and it's dangerous for that to be the rhetoric because

1140
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen is a woman like me who enjoys therapy,

1141
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: who's going to it and finding this. If decide to

1142
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: go and lean into this rhetoric, a woman could just

1143
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: be willing to take the steps to enter a therapy journey.

1144
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: They meet a man like thug who now feel less

1145
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: than a man. It could derail generations of us women

1146
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: my age looking to be better. So, Nah, I don't

1147
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: think a thirty four year old man needs more time

1148
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: to not spew this rhetoric. And I'm so sick of

1149
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: all these millennials. I told you that's why I don't

1150
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: date these niggas. They all need help, they're all undiagnosed,

1151
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: and none of them believe in therapy. That's why I

1152
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: like the little Hawaiians and the old heads, because the

1153
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: old heads have got to where they're going to therapy

1154
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: because they have dealt with divorce and all that other shit.

1155
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 3: And wish your justification for the Wayans.

1156
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: They're they're gitty, they're open.

1157
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 3: You could teach them up.

1158
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: No, not only can you teach them up, they're more

1159
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: in tune with their mental and okay with getting the

1160
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 1: help or getting on whatever meds they need to be on,

1161
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: like therapy. Now, for the last I would say almost

1162
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: ten years have been a normalized conversation shout out to

1163
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: people like you know we have I mean, nineteen Keys

1164
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 1: is a little teppy, but you got men like him,

1165
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: you have Charlemagne, you have you have I mean even

1166
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: that's a little old tepping, but even to be fair too,

1167
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 1: Like it's why I love what Rashad and and Troy

1168
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: are doing with arn your leisure, bro. Yes, we have

1169
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: how how this can impact your mental health, but there

1170
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: are resources out there now to make you better people.

1171
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: You just got to lean into that and not get

1172
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: caught up in the algorithm of I ain't less than

1173
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: a man if my woman go to there, because why

1174
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: you're not listening to me?

1175
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 3: I feel like it's uncle talk. I think it's uncle

1176
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 3: talker's Fuck. Yeah, it's uncle talk. And I mean, like

1177
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 3: not all uncles, but you know we heard that now before.

1178
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 3: And guess what uncle talk is bullshit?

1179
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: Nah, they was all creepsters filling on little girls, and

1180
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: now that's why they all getting locked up. And when

1181
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: I think of uncle talk, I think of r Kelly's

1182
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: like niggas with that type of rhetic or even when

1183
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: you hear like these old head podcasts sometimes it's like

1184
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: what you're saying is problematic as fuck, but it's that

1185
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: rhetoric that. Guess what they keep doing passing down today

1186
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: Today's sons or what do you call them that? When

1187
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: you were O G would you pass it down? Is

1188
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 1: it sons?

1189
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 3: You tell us climb?

1190
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 7: No?

1191
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: You should. You should have seen me. You should have

1192
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: seen me. I learned how to spell blow with my

1193
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: fingers and I was so excited.

1194
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 3: Ah, don't be throwing up.

1195
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, TJ, need you to blur that out.

1196
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:29,439
Speaker 4: Don't stop it five, don't don't don't stop it five.

1197
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: We're not doing none of that. We're not doing none

1198
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: of that. But yeah, that's my that's my take on that,

1199
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: and I hope that y'all continue to drag him for

1200
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: that take and hopefully drag him into therapy. That's my hope.

1201
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,439
Speaker 1: The last one I think I would love to talk

1202
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: about this guy Sanat talking to Kirk Franklin, and then

1203
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: we'll lean into some other instances that we saw and

1204
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: then wrap it up with what's happening with the comedy

1205
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: festival over in Saudi Arabia, which before we get there,

1206
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: I do want to shout out to Mark Lamont Hill.

1207
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: There was a recent episode that I listened to the

1208
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: Joe Budden podcast which put me onto this mindset because

1209
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: I had no idea of the comedy festival taking place

1210
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: out in Saudi Arabia, who all was in attendance for it?

1211
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: And it really made me think, And y'all are really

1212
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: gonna get my honest thoughts when we dig deep into it.

1213
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: But Kay Sanat revealed to Kirk Franklin that he turned

1214
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 1: down a large sum of money here this out.

1215
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 9: That all money is good money, So I can't like

1216
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 9: a lot of the times, there's gonna be times of

1217
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 9: opportunities when you're gonna wanna you don't want to get

1218
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 9: money to do certain things that you wouldn't normally be able,

1219
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 9: like you don't normally do like tighty three my first

1220
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 9: boffet I ever, I was offered like sixty million, you

1221
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 9: are behind me, sixty million to do something to do

1222
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 9: like I like gambling and stuff like that. And I

1223
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 9: didn't want to take because I knew it would mess

1224
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 9: me up. I knew that it made me lose focus

1225
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 9: on what I got going on right now. I don't

1226
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 9: know how even because it's so clear off of that time,

1227
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 9: because you anybody, anybody would take that, Yes, anybody.

1228
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 3: Would take that. So it's like, and you said no,

1229
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 3: I said no. So the first thing I did I

1230
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 3: went to my closet. Wen't have to call.

1231
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 9: I went to my closet and I just asked God,

1232
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 9: I said, listen, I said, I said, I don't want

1233
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 9: but I said no. I said, I'm gonna say no

1234
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 9: right now. But I don't want to take the short term.

1235
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 9: I want to be to take the wrong term.

1236
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: And I promise you.

1237
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 3: I gotten on my knees. I prayed after that, and

1238
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 3: I just kept I just kept working.

1239
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 9: So it's like, but people, I don't understand chat when

1240
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 9: I be trying to make y'all understand, is that bro

1241
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 9: a lot of a lot of the things that left

1242
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 9: that comes. Not all money is good money, like you

1243
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 9: cannot take It's not. Sometimes people they want to take

1244
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 9: the short route. But as long as you believe in

1245
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 9: your craft or as like as you believe in God,

1246
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 9: I don't care about by the time I'm like fifty

1247
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 9: or sixty years old, I understand like to get to

1248
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 9: the point where I'm like, oh my gosh, but like I'd.

1249
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 3: Rather take the shorter I to take the long route.

1250
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 3: In short, I love that now.

1251
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: I love this too, and and and the ways in

1252
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: which I wanted to tie this to our mental health

1253
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: is the unrealistic way in which we not only view money.

1254
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: But I think that the internet has an interesting way

1255
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: with having us question our moral compass, our integrity. But

1256
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: aside from that, it leans us heavily into our hypocrisy.

1257
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: And so oh baby, hey, y'all already know a part

1258
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: of even how this podcast started was how much hypocrisy

1259
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: I saw just existed in how you present yourself and

1260
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: what you fight for, but also what you do on

1261
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: the back end. And I really like the concept around

1262
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: all money is not good money, right.

1263
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 3: Because and he says that, he says that a lot.

1264
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: He says that a lot. But even at the time

1265
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: that he was it's interesting because I think it's a

1266
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: led sword, right. I think that this is a great message.

1267
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: I think for anyone listening, it's a great message. However,

1268
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: at twenty one, he was already streaming heavily, clearly making

1269
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: enough money to get offered a sixty million dollar deal, right.

1270
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: And so when I hear someone who's probably already a

1271
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: millionaire say he turned down this money, and then we

1272
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: have these conversations about all money is not good money.

1273
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: But I know a lot of members in my family are.

1274
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: When I was growing up, we was one one emergency

1275
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: away from not being able to eat or my mom

1276
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: being behind on bills. The idea of what I know

1277
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: people do for money is crazy, Like I'll be honest

1278
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: with you, I ain't do it. I'm gonna say I

1279
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: ain't do it. I don't know the statue of limitation.

1280
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: But there was a part allegedly where there was that

1281
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: iPhone scam where you go in and get iPhones and

1282
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: then you give them to someone to jail break itself

1283
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: as long as you're credit good every day, every segment.

1284
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying there was there was, you know, a

1285
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: time where it was easy to do that, And a

1286
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: year or so later, I sprint, why are you on

1287
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: my I've never had sprint? I'm confused by But when

1288
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: I go back to think about where I was at

1289
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 1: that time, of course knowing it's a scam, knowing it's

1290
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: probably not the right way of doing stuff, and of

1291
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: course I was convinced that it was you do things

1292
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of things that even when you

1293
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: know it's wrong. Bro money, what say They say it's

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Speaker 1: the root of all evil, But it's really difficult to

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Speaker 1: say all money isn't good money and tie that into

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Speaker 1: money when you don't have it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just trying to be a decent man in the

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Speaker 3: City of Demons.

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Speaker 1: There we go.

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Speaker 3: People do things you want to push back mental health

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Speaker 3: reasons reasons exactly.

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01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: Like it's easy to take to turn that down when

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01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: you're not crying and figuring out how you're going to

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01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: feed yourself, your family, and put a roof over your head.

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01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: Like it's why so many people who don't want to

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01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: like women for sure, and I've been an advocate of it,

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01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: But there's a thing called survival sex, like going on

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01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: dates and dealing with these old white men, are dealing

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01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: with men that are unattractive and having to do things

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Speaker 1: that you would not rather You would rather not do,

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01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: but you have no other choice because how you're gonna

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Speaker 1: pay these bills. There's a lot of women who have

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01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: done things, have taken jobs, have taken multiple jobs, not

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Speaker 1: because they just want to for the hell of it,

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01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: but it's because they have to, even if the jobs

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01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: aren't good. Like it's why when people say they want

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01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: to take a woman out the strip club, like bro,

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01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: whether you viewed that place as a place of evil

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01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: or another woman, if you judge this woman for how

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01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: she's making money. I just I saw this and I

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01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: was like, it means well, But I can't take it

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01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: from someone who's already a millionaire. I would love to

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01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: hear someone who's really down and out tell me they

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01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: turned down a large sum of money because it wasn't

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Speaker 1: good money.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the I think we need to ask

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01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 2: Kai if he can reveal what was said in those

1328
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 2: negotiations that made him.

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Speaker 1: He said it was for gambling, and he doesn't align

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01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: with gambling. He felt like that didn't align with his

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01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: He didn't want to push people to gamble because if

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01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,439
Speaker 1: you think about it, maybe maybe his dad or maybe

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01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: someone in his.

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01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 3: Family something that he he's witnessed.

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01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 2: Experience as a young d that he just hold on

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01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 2: to that I can't go down that path, right, which

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01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 2: is which is cool right because and also the other

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01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 2: part of it too. He turned down sixty million, That

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Speaker 2: means you also know that you have another eighty.

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Speaker 10: Bro.

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01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 2: You're sitting around it, bro, I mean there's another offer

1342
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 2: around the corner, and like, all right, I get that.

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01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, right right, You turned out sixty, but didn't tell

1344
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: us how you agree daty vibe just with another.

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01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 3: Company right exactly that probably would have competed.

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01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: So you was like, yeah, I ain't say that sixty

1347
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: because I had another another couple bags waiting on me. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting because when I see clips like this, it

1349
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: does make me sit back, like, okay, where would I

1350
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: draw the line?

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01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 3: You would have took the sixty for gambling nigga.

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01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: Whenever I go to Vegas, I'm at the sports bett, like,

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01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: let me see, let me see if I could turn

1354
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: this hunting. It's a twenty five hundred. I guess that's

1355
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: why I wanted to bring up what's happening out in

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01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia because that was the only thing that when

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01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: it was positioned, the conversation was had did have to think,

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01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: mind you, there's a lot of things that I would

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01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: do for money. I've been bought, I've been sold, bitch.

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Speaker 1: So a part of me and my relationship with money,

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Speaker 1: I do believe everyone has a price. I'm someone who

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01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: has had a price as well. So I think I

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01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 1: would be a hypocrite to say no, But let me

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Speaker 1: read a little bit of backstory on what's happening, or Jason,

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Speaker 1: if you could tie in a little bit and let

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Speaker 1: everyone know what's happening with the comedy fest out in

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Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 4: This comedy festival is happening in Saudi Arabia and big headliners,

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Speaker 4: you know, Dave Chappelle, Kevin Hard, Louis c K, you know,

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Speaker 4: the list goes on and on. I mean it's huge,

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Speaker 4: much bigger names than like the New York Comedy Festival

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Speaker 4: and the It's happening.

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Speaker 3: In Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 4: Saudi Arabia is infamously led by the Crown Prince Mohammed

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Speaker 4: Ben Solomon, and most people in the US probably heard

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01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 4: of his name because his government killed a Washington Post

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Speaker 4: journalist by the name of Jamal Gashagi after he wrote

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Speaker 4: columns in the Washington Post criticizing Saudi Arabian. He that

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Speaker 4: journalist is also Saudi Arabian, and also too, like Saudi

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Speaker 4: Arabia is also behind like a lot of sports stuff.

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Speaker 4: So like that, what's that golf league? The alternate golf

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Speaker 4: league from the PGA?

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Speaker 3: What is it called?

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know nothing about no golf.

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Speaker 3: No, it's a it's uh what is it PGA versus?

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Speaker 3: I'll find a real quickt PGA verse Outlive, okay.

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Speaker 4: So and so like a lot of a lot of

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01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 4: golfers went to Live because Live was just paying the bag,

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Speaker 4: like doubled the bag. They almost pulled Charles Barkley away

1391
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 4: from tn T Sports to be a golf commentator on Live.

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Speaker 4: That they just have like ridiculous amounts of money, and

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01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 4: you know, people call that like sports washing where they're

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Speaker 4: trying to like clean their repusation for human rights abuses

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01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 4: through like sports and entertainment, and so Saudi Arabia is

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Speaker 4: like infamously known for like a ton of like executions.

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Speaker 1: I was actually I wanted to get into that real

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Speaker 1: quick because that's that's the part, right so basically the

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Speaker 1: issue right now? Mind you, Mark.

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Speaker 3: Moran, there's a lot of I have that clip too.

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01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, can we play that clip first, just because I

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01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: want the audience to kind of realize what the criticism

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Speaker 1: is and then I'm going to get into how y'all

1404
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: can be bought. But let's let's play the clip around

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01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: Mark and his sentiments on why he believes this goes

1406
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: like there's there's hypocrisy here.

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Speaker 3: Here we go, this is.

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Speaker 10: True Saudi Arabia Comedy Festival.

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Speaker 11: I mean, how do you even promote that, you know,

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Speaker 11: like from the folks that brush you nine to eleven

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01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 11: foot two weeks of laughter in the desert, don't miss it.

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Speaker 11: I mean, the same guy that's going to pay them

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01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 11: as the same guy that paid that guy to bone

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01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 11: sug Jamal Kashogi and put him in a fucking suitcase.

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Speaker 11: But don't let guess top the ups, it's gonna be

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Speaker 11: a good time. Full disclosure, I was not asked to perform.

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Speaker 10: At the Riod Comedy Festival, so it's kind of easy

1418
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 10: for me to take the high road on this one.

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01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 10: Easy to maintain your integrity when no one's offering to

1420
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 10: buy it out, you know.

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Speaker 1: So basically they're basically imagine, imagine your your rate is

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01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand Moneys. Again, they have even Chris Tucker

1423
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 1: come out out of goddamn retiming they have. The list

1424
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: is insane and it's it's alleged that they were given

1425
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: offers five ten, one hundred times what they're going rates

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01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 1: normally are. So some of the things on why this

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01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: is an issue. The nine to eleven joke made you know.

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01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: Of course, there was also another journalism that went over

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01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: there and was killed. That's who Mark reference in his thing.

1430
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: But we over here in America are already fighting for

1431
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 1: right freedom of speech, women's rights, things like that. Here's

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01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: some of the things that they allow in Saudi Arabia,

1433
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: capital punishment, harsh punishment, and torture in terms of women's rights.

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01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia's male guardianship system means many women require male

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01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 1: guardian permission to marry, travel, leave prison, or engage in

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01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: legal matters. They often also face many obstacles in the

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01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: justice system. While there have been some reforms like women

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01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: can now drive, attend events, and in some cases travel

1439
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: without permission, the changes are partial in terms of also

1440
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: the LGBTQ rights and sexual freedoms. Sex sexual activity is illegal,

1441
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: fuck marriage. You can't do any same sex activity whatsoever.

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01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: It is punishable, which includes things like flogging, imprisonment, or

1443
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: even the death penalty. So if you are not straight

1444
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: or heterosexual, they can kill you. And another thing that

1445
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 1: maybe you guys will understand if maybe you don't care

1446
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 1: about women, or maybe you don't care about the LGBTQ rights,

1447
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,440
Speaker 1: maybe you're Christian, and so let's lean into the restrictions

1448
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 1: of religion. Public religious expression that deviates from the officially

1449
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 1: sanctioned version of Sunni Islam is heavily repressed. So literally

1450
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 1: any other group of religious of religious beliefs, those groups

1451
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: often face discrimination and perscution, and they can carry harsh

1452
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: penalties as well. So imagine these people who may be

1453
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 1: you know, putting up the black posts and solidarity of

1454
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 1: black Lives Matter and all these things here, they go

1455
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: to a goddamn country to get a check that essentially

1456
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 1: has rights against women same sex at that point, anything

1457
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: same sex. And again there's migrant worker and labor rights.

1458
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: There's so many issues there. So if you believe in

1459
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 1: prison reform, this probably isn't a place you should ever go,

1460
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: because that's what essentially you're supporting by going there. If

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01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 1: you believe in women having the rights to choose what

1462
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 1: they do with their body, or to be able to

1463
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: become victims of sexual assault and things of that nature,

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01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: why would you go over there. If you believe that

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01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 1: we have freedom of speech and freedom of religion and

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01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,560
Speaker 1: ways in which to exist in the way we do,

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01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 1: why would you go and take money from a country

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01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,560
Speaker 1: like that? Right, And so I'm sitting here thinking, and

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01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm clearly here for aull, for women's rights.

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01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: I want the best for LGBTKE, LGBTQ communities and things

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01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: like that. And I don't like that you are leaning

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01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 1: back in here because what I'm about to say is

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01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 1: gonna make people upset, and I don't want to make

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01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: them upset. But it's tricky, right, The idea of not

1475
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: being able to go to certain parts of the world

1476
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 1: that we don't really have any control over. We all

1477
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: have bills and things to pay. And so as I'm

1478
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 1: hearing people criticize the comedians that went out there to

1479
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 1: take this money, I was like, damn, is this something

1480
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: I would do? Knowing that I'm against all these things. Now,

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01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: I also want to explain that if you look at

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01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: my passport, I've been to Israel. I've been to Doha,

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01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: which is in kutter, who has very strict rights against

1484
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: women and what they can do. I enjoy Dubai. I've

1485
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: been to Abu Dhabi' I was thinking, like, damn, I've

1486
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: actually visited and traveled to places, even South Africa, knowing

1487
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: that they went through the apartheid and what kind of

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01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: they're still dealing. I went and did a tour through

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01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 1: the fucking like townships like it was Soweto, which is

1490
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: which is where you know they separate. There's classism in

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01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: the places I go to. So as I'm sitting here

1492
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: thinking about believing that people, yes, deserve a wage, a

1493
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: living wage, as I believe that women deserve all these rights,

1494
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: as I believe all these things, I also had to

1495
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: sit and been like whoa, But I have visited and

1496
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 1: toward the slums in different countries that go against, yes,

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01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 1: my personal beliefs. But and I didn't get paid, mind you,

1498
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: I paid. I didn't even take a check to be there.

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01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 1: But a part of me was like, is there a

1500
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 1: harm in that? Really? No, Like, I don't because and

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01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,640
Speaker 1: in the same breath, right, there's so many people now

1502
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 1: we see Vegas and a lot of cities and places

1503
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,719
Speaker 1: in our own in our own country that other foreigners

1504
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 1: don't want to come to. So I'm also thinking, is

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01:13:55,760 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 1: this one of again the echo chambers that we that

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01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: essentially want to brainwash us to believe that America is

1507
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: still better than the rest of these countries and how

1508
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,560
Speaker 1: they operate. And then when I sit and think like,

1509
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm here for women's rights, but guess who ain't ship

1510
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 1: some women Like I don't believe I could be a

1511
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 1: savior to all women, even though I believe that we

1512
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 1: should all have the rights to our own bodies, you

1513
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So when I was thinking, I

1514
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 1: was like, damn, I'd probably do a show over there

1515
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 1: if they paid me. You would a number, right, I thought,

1516
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: the lowest.

1517
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 12: Number that you think I would turn out, so to

1518
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 12: give your context on numbers, because I'll say this, I'm

1519
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 12: gonna lose this argument. Shane Gillis, he said he got

1520
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 12: offered a huge bag to go way over his rate, okay,

1521
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 12: and when he said he when he turned it down,

1522
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 12: said I can't, I'm busy.

1523
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 3: He said, they doubled it. Oh it's a huge bag.

1524
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 3: Huge bag.

1525
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 5: So saying that did he take it after they doubled

1526
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 5: he but maybe maybe you would fold like laundry. But

1527
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 5: the point that was going to say laundry, my I

1528
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,759
Speaker 5: was gonna say, visiting a country is supporting the people.

1529
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 4: Taking money from them is supporting the government. And so

1530
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 4: I think there are two different things. So just because

1531
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 4: it visited service, but that's not visiting through tourism, right

1532
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 4: Like our government sucks. If somebody visits our country, they're

1533
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 4: not supporting our government. They're supporting the people because they're

1534
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 4: coming and visiting. But if you're taking money for a

1535
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 4: show that the government is paying out, that's the no no,

1536
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 4: because then you're then you're.

1537
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: Paying the taxes that they go to Disney.

1538
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 4: The taxes, taxes, taxes are supposed to go back to

1539
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 4: the people.

1540
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 3: I mean, you could say that here too. I mean,

1541
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 3: it's so many, so many, like I think.

1542
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 4: But if you're visiting, it's like when you when you

1543
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 4: go to a hood, you're going there because you're supporting

1544
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 4: the community.

1545
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 3: Now let me think you're visiting.

1546
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 4: But if an oppressive government is like, Mandy, take this

1547
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 4: check and sign right here, that's that that's something.

1548
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 1: It's tricky. It's tricky only because if the government is

1549
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 1: now allowed hold on, let me tell you why I

1550
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 1: think it's trick Andy. It's specifically because it's the comedians, right,

1551
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: even seeing Mark's joke on stage, and.

1552
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 3: Let me give some more names too, so people don't

1553
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 3: think it's just blabing.

1554
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 4: No, no, just Joe Coy, Whitney Cummings, Pete Davidson, Andrew Schultz.

1555
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,839
Speaker 1: And Andrew went out there and did a show by himself.

1556
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 1: But I think in terms of this, right, when you

1557
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: open a country like that to comedy that we and

1558
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: our country are already looking at as something that really

1559
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 1: makes you go home, it could be problematic, it could

1560
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 1: be thought provoking, it could be all these things, right,

1561
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: I think there could be an element in which you

1562
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: believe you're going out there and you're you're investing in

1563
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: changing the culture of what that country looks like. And

1564
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 1: I think it's why even in this country, I'm scared

1565
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 1: as fuck with the idea that the First Amendment can

1566
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 1: be revoked from us, because right now we do have

1567
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,719
Speaker 1: this freedom, but we see those rights slowly being snatched

1568
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: from us too. Right So, I think one of the

1569
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 1: things that make us so great is that we have

1570
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 1: these platforms where we're able to talk this way. And

1571
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 1: I think that in a country like Saudi Arabia, where

1572
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 1: women just got the opportunity to be able to go

1573
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 1: to events, I think having these type of thought provoking

1574
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 1: individuals which I do find comedians, especially the names you

1575
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 1: said to be brilliant and their delivery and their way

1576
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 1: to make you really go, I think that it could

1577
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: be a culture shift in a country that we currently

1578
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: don't align with.

1579
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:32,799
Speaker 4: On a transactional appearance that you're getting paid by the government,

1580
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 4: I don't think they're going to be.

1581
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 1: I see the contract.

1582
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 3: I need to see the contract anything.

1583
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 1: I need to see the contract, because if they're able

1584
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: to really dig in on the government, like what we're

1585
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 1: seeing South Park do with Trump on their new episodes, if.

1586
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 3: They're able to really chunk hold but but Trump's not

1587
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 3: paying them. This is this is done being like we

1588
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 3: kill people for fun.

1589
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 1: Well, no, we're going to Trump didn't pay them directly,

1590
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 1: but in order for them to get that billion dollar

1591
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: deal from Paramount, Trump was a part of stopping it

1592
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 1: and making it go on, and he inserted himself into

1593
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: that deal.

1594
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 4: But he also but the bank didn't come from the government,

1595
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 4: and this is government money that they're taking it due

1596
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 4: to comedy show.

1597
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 1: I think it's tricky when you also separate the government. Well,

1598
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: when you separate the government and billionaires, when we know

1599
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: our president has become a billionaire since entering office only

1600
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 1: ten months ago, I think there's a thin line between

1601
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 1: governing and seeing what these people are doing from a

1602
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 1: business standpoint, and we know that they're dipping their hands

1603
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 1: in the motherfucking pots. That's why Eric Adams said I

1604
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 1: won't be running for Mary the next because he done

1605
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 1: got caught put in his hand in the goddamn cookie job.

1606
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 2: Well, you see, the Saudi's made a big play the

1607
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 2: other day too when they just purchased EA Sports.

1608
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 1: Oh is that what they did too? Well?

1609
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 3: Also, Trump's law is.

1610
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:59,560
Speaker 1: So I have friends that last December spent about a

1611
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,679
Speaker 1: week in Saudi Arabia. Spotify was out there and Billboard

1612
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: and so they had a lot of the music industry

1613
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 1: out there because they're working on streaming and of course

1614
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: what munich can and things like that. So if if

1615
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: it makes sense to drop some of these harsh ways

1616
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,719
Speaker 1: of working legal by bringing in more money to filter

1617
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 1: tourism and people coming in, I'm kind of I'm kind

1618
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 1: of OK.

1619
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 3: But you're jamming two things together that aren't together.

1620
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 4: Like again, this comedy show, it's not like it's an

1621
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 4: independent comedy show, and it's like some promoter doing it.

1622
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 4: It's the government doing it, right, Like it's it's the

1623
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 4: government's tourism group that's doing that. They're whitewashing their money

1624
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,799
Speaker 4: through it. That's one thing, right, Like if a promoter

1625
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 4: sets you up and wants to bring you out there,

1626
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 4: that's completely different than the government who does all this

1627
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 4: foulship inviting it.

1628
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 3: That's the part with me.

1629
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 4: It's not tricky, right, Like it's it's you wouldn't take it.

1630
01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 4: And again I'll say this, and I know I'll be wrong.

1631
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 4: You wouldn't take a try check from Trump?

1632
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 3: I don't think. But what if?

1633
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 2: But what if the check what if the check allow

1634
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 2: you to contribute in That's what I'm saying. What if

1635
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:15,680
Speaker 2: I don't what would to causes and things that you

1636
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 2: do care because it's your money.

1637
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 4: Sure, but we're talking about these people right here, this

1638
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:24,560
Speaker 4: list of these commedians, these comedians ain't coming back with

1639
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 4: this money and being like, that's like saying trickle down economics.

1640
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 3: Trickle down economics is just a Ponzi scheme.

1641
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 4: Billionaires aren't getting tax breaks and being like, oh here,

1642
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 4: y'all take it. They're buying properties in the Hamptons, you

1643
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So it's not I wouldn't look

1644
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 4: to Andrew Schultz and now you don't want.

1645
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 1: Now you don't want black Now you don't want black

1646
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 1: people to have generational wealth and pass down real estate.

1647
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 13: To their question, helping generationally, he said, to help causes, say,

1648
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 13: to help their cause.

1649
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 3: It could be helped causes quietly. Right, that's the other

1650
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 3: part it.

1651
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 4: Sure, you can take cleaner money to help causes. You

1652
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 4: can go to any other place rather than there. Again,

1653
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 4: that's why I.

1654
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 3: Just don't think it's tricky.

1655
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,640
Speaker 4: And the funny thing is the way you set this up, Mandy, Right,

1656
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 4: you were talking about Kay sanat and you're like, well,

1657
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 4: what if a broke person, like, what are they going

1658
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 4: to do with this money? Now we're comparing apples to

1659
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 4: apples with Rich Kyson, I has money and he said no.

1660
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 4: All these comedians on this bill have money, and they

1661
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 4: said yes. And not only do they say yes, some

1662
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 4: of them are being like, why are you coming at me?

1663
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 4: Why are you coming at me?

1664
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 3: Because they're being called out.

1665
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 1: Money is subjective by the way, they might not think

1666
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 1: they have money.

1667
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean how much did the did Trump pay

1668
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 3: when they had the crypto ball?

1669
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 1: Oh well, I mean, of course, like Snoop and Nelly

1670
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: were up there GI rating. I think I think. I

1671
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: think that's the thing right too. In reading this, a

1672
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 1: part of a part of us, especially if we see

1673
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:55,560
Speaker 1: Marx Rant, if we see the other the other comedians,

1674
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 1: that are frustrated and irate at the decision that all

1675
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 1: these other people, it causes us, as the consumers of

1676
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: social media, to go through and almost pick aside, and

1677
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,839
Speaker 1: a part of us wants to be either completely upset

1678
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 1: that these people chose to do this and not stand

1679
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: for anything, but then at the same time it's like, okay, well,

1680
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 1: I wonder if I would do it, and what and

1681
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 1: essentially what it does is it creates this. I love

1682
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 1: the conversation that it could have, but again it makes

1683
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,839
Speaker 1: you feel like, oh, we live in this individualistic society.

1684
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 1: We're never gonna all come together for a common calls

1685
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: because money can buy everybody. And what I see even

1686
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 1: in the comments for things like this is people being

1687
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 1: upset because now what the next time Pete Davison or

1688
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 1: Chris Tucker or somebody wants to do something. Now they're

1689
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 1: gonna have to defend their decision to go out there

1690
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 1: to Saudi Arabia and get that goddamn bag.

1691
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 2: And oh you should, by the way, listen y'all, but

1692
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 2: also you can you I think that you can. This

1693
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 2: should be space for them to explain if they choose.

1694
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 4: Okay, you know fasics thain cool, But I think she's

1695
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 4: saying they have to get questioned and asked.

1696
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:02,719
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any everything they do. People.

1697
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 4: Next thing Pete Davidson does, he could do a Broadway

1698
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 4: play that's dedicated to my father and the whole nine

1699
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 4: to eleven stuff.

1700
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 3: He does his press available. I think, Pete, you just

1701
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 3: want the Saudi Arabia. Why did you do that? I

1702
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 3: don't think they ask him, though I think there's other

1703
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:17,560
Speaker 3: people I know.

1704
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, they're not gonna ask Pete. I don't think

1705
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 1: they give a about my Pete like that. But I

1706
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 1: think they definitely gonna ask, like a Kevin Heart what

1707
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people.

1708
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 3: On they're gonna Bill Barr. Bill Burr is gonna have

1709
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 3: to there you go there. I would love to hear

1710
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 3: his his take.

1711
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 1: He probably is just in order to shut people up,

1712
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:37,560
Speaker 1: go come back over and donate a large portion of

1713
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:41,480
Speaker 1: it to something which that which again that shuts.

1714
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 3: People up, And I think he would explain it.

1715
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 1: People love seeing when people get a bag and they

1716
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 1: give it away.

1717
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 2: So if we get that email top of the ear

1718
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 2: Selective Ignorance live show in Dubai?

1719
01:23:54,479 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 3: Is that absolutely that far in the world? But would

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Speaker 3: you would you? Would you do coming through?

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Speaker 1: Make sure to include y'all's rates.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to do a show there?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely If the government is paying for us to go there,

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Speaker 4: that's are you going to ask?

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Speaker 3: And we're gonna ask what you're gonna ask? Yes, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and this one then.

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Speaker 1: Jason, I won't tell you you're gonna enjoy that A

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Speaker 1: flight on emirates over there. I could be like, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna make sure they buy us the flights

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Speaker 1: where there's a shower in like we got our own,

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Speaker 1: We got our own cabin.

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Speaker 3: On the don't don't listen, just covey is con your.

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Speaker 1: Years, y'all.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna cue up this clip of cars and saying

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Speaker 4: all money and good monch.

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Speaker 1: Just so y'all know this is literally for entertainment person

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Speaker 1: purposes only.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we're just having a discussion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no we are. But I guess that's sometimes the

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01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 1: problem my dead has be telling y'all my my brain

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01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 1: thought process at the moment. It is just you know,

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Speaker 1: I would love the opportunity to grow. So possibly tomorrow

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01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 1: if you see me in the streets, my mind maybe different. Okay, Like,

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01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 1: don't hold me to what y'all hear me say on

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01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:11,799
Speaker 1: this very day, because they could change tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Non negotiable change every day.

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Speaker 1: They can change non negotiables change every day is crazy,

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Speaker 1: they can. They're not supposed to be negotiable. People grow

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Speaker 1: every day.

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Speaker 3: That's why they gave Shy. They doubled his the offer, right, Yeah,

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01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 3: people grow every day and people progress every day. That

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Speaker 3: is goiable.

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01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: Progressing every day is insane. Anyways, guys, thank y'all so

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Speaker 1: much for tuning in. This was This was an interesting

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Speaker 1: we are ramping up on patree on I was able

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Speaker 1: to share a little bit with y'all of the setback.

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Speaker 1: is there on Tuesdays. You can catch the full episode

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Speaker 1: on YouTube on Wednesdays, and then for our Friday drops

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Speaker 1: that y'all are about to start hearing, you will only

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Speaker 1: be able to see the full video on Patreon. I'm

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Speaker 1: also doing something really dope. I think I want to

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Speaker 1: call them like assembly halls or something like that. But

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Speaker 1: once a month, I'll be on zoom where you guys

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Speaker 1: can join me in on a full live taping of

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Speaker 1: Selective Ignorance. Well, we'll dive through the things that have

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Speaker 1: kind of like made our blood boil over the last month.

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Speaker 1: So once a month, you guys can join me for that,

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Speaker 1: you're getting your content AD free as well as you know.

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01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm finally we got our team set and going, y'all.

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01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 1: This is my third team since we started. Thirty episodes

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Speaker 1: in I feel like goddamn and once I get on

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Speaker 1: a strive, I got a fire and hire. But anyways,

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Speaker 1: we are doing good. Thank you Jason, Thank you a

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Speaker 1: king for joining us. This was a good talk. I

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Speaker 1: love that y'all always push back all my thoughts knowing

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Speaker 1: that I ain't shit, But it's because this is selective ignorance,

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