WEBVTT - Ep. 27: De-Icing the Squirt Squid with Hot Koi Soup 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:03.720 If you don't want to look like a complete and 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:07.640 total gaper, take off the plastic shrink wrap from your 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:11.640 rod handles before you fish with them. When you see 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:14.720 the fish and are ready to make your final presentation, 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:17.560 don't jump up and down in the air. If one 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:19.800 of my boys in Louisiana threw a coin some gumbo, 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:23.400 I'd be like, Oh, that looks delicious, spicy pecanti. In 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:27.000 a very roundabout way, small mouths share some of their 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:31.560 taxonomic history with one of the greatest black exploitation films 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:38.920 in history. Good morning, degenerate anglers. Welcome to Bent the 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:42.159 Fishing Podcast. It's still even after all these years are 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:43.960 doing it gets a case of the bubble guts when 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:46.080 it sees a v weig trailing the surface, beata stud 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:48.760 red fish cruising a flat, a wide headed trout sipping 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.640 in the seam, or a pop culture reference. Only a 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:54.920 small amount of weirdos like us actually get. I'm Joe Surmellie, 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.280 Miles Nulty and uh and to everyone out there listening, 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:01.480 I'm gonna I'm gonna give you a ship like straight up, 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:07.160 i am not the smoothest, the smoothest guy on the 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:11.480 water or anywhere. Really, but I'm I'm especially prone to 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:14.560 losing my ship when it comes to site fishing. That 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:18.520 is true, That's totally understandable though, right Yeah, But I 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:20.720 feel like I'm not supposed to say that. Like I 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:24.080 feel like, you know, as fishing industry professionals, we're supposed 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:28.440 to pretend that we're like these super hardcore, badass fish slayers. 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:34.240 Don't might give my name and my game, but I'm not. 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:37.759 I'm I'm I'm certainly no Rudy ray Moren for those 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.559 of you who caught that reference. More to come later 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:43.960 in the show. Uh. Straight up though, straight up when 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.200 it comes to site fishing, big fish, I still com 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:48.320 I totally get the yips, Dude, I still get them. 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.360 It still happened, yeah, man, I mean so do I. 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:52.320 But I've I've found it like my level of choke 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.440 directly correlates to the number of shots. Right. It's like 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.880 a math problem. Okay, so take the the average of 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.480 shots times how many days do I have to enjoy 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.320 this fishery, and then you get like the square root 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.320 of how badly I'll ship the bed, you know, And 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.919 then if you add in the variable of there's a 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.959 video camera and this is important. The bed shooting percentage 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:15.160 rate increases by pie. You know, yeah, yeah, I know 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:20.760 that that. I think I think your math works out there. Yeah, 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:23.880 But like dude, I mean, I think to have some 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:25.840 real talk on this. For me, they are a particular 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.720 problem with species, right, the ones that some of the 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:30.200 ones that are supposed to be really hard. I don't 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:34.080 have problem Like Florida permit, no problem. Not not that 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.360 they're easy fish, not the easy fish, but I I 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.040 don't choke and I have a good track record of 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.359 presenting well to them and catching them. I don't know why. 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.519 I know people with permit tattoos that haven't hooked one yet, 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:46.760 Like they have the tattoo of the permit and haven't 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:50.040 hooked on. Maybe that's the problem there. You go to 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:53.760 put the cart before the horse there exactly. But like dude, 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:58.240 Hawaii bone fish one example total Achilles heal for me 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:01.160 and and for people who don't know out that fishery 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:04.920 why does have bone fish And they're quite large as 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.120 bone fish goes, and they get a ton of pressure 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:10.120 not just from recreational anglers, but like people trying to 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.000 kill them and like homeless people trying to net them, 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.280 like they live a life of pure terror, so they're 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:18.280 always neurotic. And and they come up into these very 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.440 shallow sand flats to feed on shrimp and crabs when 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:22.560 the tides are right, and you can stock them on foot, 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.960 and it's all site fishing, Like you can see the fish, 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:27.640 you can see their backs, you can see their their 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.400 tails and their dorsal fins, and you watch them feeding. 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.880 And so when you screwed up, you have no one 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:38.400 to blame but yourself. And and I'm not exaggerating when 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:42.600 I said I've had days where I blew fifty shots 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:46.240 in a row, like fifty opportunities at feeding fish in 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:50.080 one single tide without even getting one fish to eat. 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.320 And like I get I get done with a session 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.640 like that, and I'm like to have I wasted my life? 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.040 Like what where did I go wrong? Like I've spent 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.080 all these years fishing, and I still suck this bad 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:06.200 at it, But it gets to me, dude, Hawaii bones 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.160 definitely on the bucket list. I know a lot of 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:10.120 people who who have gone to chase that dream, but 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.200 I've I've never been there, right, so I can't really 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.320 speak to that. All my boning has been done in 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:17.120 the Bahamas and Turks and Caicos, and like that's a 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.960 prime example to me of my math equation. You're you're 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:23.440 never really or usually, i should say, in bone fish 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:25.680 places for a day, Like you don't just end up 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:29.720 in Biminy or Avoca for a day. So you've got time. 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:31.839 So even if they're like, if you have one tough day, 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:34.640 assuming you don't have like you know, awful weather for 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:37.720 your entire trip, strong chance you're gonna get at least 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.239 one good day out of it. But in in recent memory, 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:43.000 if I'm being totally honest, my last bout of total 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.760 site fishing suck was actually with you. You took me 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:49.840 to a spring creek in Montana last winter, and it 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:51.880 was it was one of those deals where it's like, Okay, 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:54.000 it's big brown right there, he's in eight inches of water. 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.360 You're gonna sneak around this way and mind your shadow 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.320 and nail the drift with with a nymph and a 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.159 ten foot leader on the first cast, Like that's not 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:05.480 it's not happening that. I can't handle that. And I 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.880 didn't handle that. I caught nothing that day. I remember 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:10.880 you catching at least one fish that day. You're being 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.279 very nice, but I lost one because when you walked 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.039 away and I took the nymph off and put a 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:18.640 giant wooly bugger on, I'm like, you're gonna You're gonna eat, 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:20.560 and it did and I snapped it off and that 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:25.640 was it. Maybe I'm giving you my more credit my memory, 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:27.240 I don't know, but to be fair like that, that 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:29.120 is a that is that creeks tough, and I had 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.000 home field advantage. I've fished there. But but then so 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:35.359 like another another example of of me blowing it on 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.039 particular species, like last summer, we were filming doss boat 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.680 in Minnesota, right and and when we're working on the 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.599 buffalo episode. For those of you saw the cal and 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:46.440 I were in. We would target buffalo in the morning 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:48.520 and then the wind would come up in the buffalo disappear, 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.520 so we had the rest of the day to fish 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:55.320 for other species. And I of course would end up 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:58.360 muskie fishing, even though it was middle of the day midsummer, 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.320 because I have a problem. So I was on one 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:03.159 of those like giant defiant swim baits that that Oliver 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:06.120 and I loves and has turned me onto. And the 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:09.760 lake we're on is crystal clear like ten ft of visibility, 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.080 so I can see the bait the whole time. I'm 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:13.920 watching it, and I'm tracking it, and I'm working along 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:17.479 this weed edge and I can see it. And then 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:22.279 there's this big, like three foot long flash, which, to 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:25.240 be clear, if I'm being honest, that's not a big muskie, 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.240 but still a three ft fagh. That's a big flash. 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.920 It gets your heart rate up. And and I see 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:32.080 this fish coming. It's all that up. It's charged the lure. 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:35.200 It's not a follower. This fish is serious. It wants 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.960 to eat, and I just have to just keep doing 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:39.960 what I'm doing, and it's gonna eat. And I see 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:45.200 it and I stop, Like the the cardinal rule that 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.159 everybody knows in muskie fishing, the one thing you never 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:51.360 do is stop your lure. And I know that, like 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.640 I'm fully aware of that. I have told that to 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.720 other people, but that's exactly what I did. And you know, 0:06:57.760 --> 0:06:59.320 of course, the fish is like, I'm not interested in 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:01.279 that left and I told really, blew it gone done, 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:05.280 no more shots. I've done that. I have done that 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:09.440 very same thing with muskies several times because it's such 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.320 a hard thing. And then you finally see one, it 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.400 like takes your breath away and you gave at it. 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:17.880 You become a gaper to use your nickname. I'll tell 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:19.840 you what I have. I have never actually caught a 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.520 muskie in a figure eight in my life because I've 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:26.000 botched pretty much all my figure eight opportunities and just 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:29.280 z when I should have zag because I got one, 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.280 but it was like two, so I didn't really get 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:34.080 like the hard pumping, you know, that's not that's neither 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.720 here nor there. The point is that as soon as 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.960 you see it, like now that I'm seeing it, I 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:41.960 will screw it up right. So I've never got one 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.600 in the eight. The handful of muskies I've caught eight 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.000 way out and like you know, three turns of Laura 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.480 and hammered it like a blue fish fifty ft out 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.400 and those are great. I like those muski you know. 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.280 But then, like think about it, what makes site fishing 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.960 goofs even more likely? Because when you have somebody watching you, 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.200 which is fairly common if you're in a I had 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.720 a trip, you're out of town, like good chance, somebody's 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:05.120 breathing down your neck, and then because then you it's 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:08.800 it's instant Monday morning quarterbacking and that's the ship. It's like, 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.080 oh man, you know you should have stopped and if 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.080 you had stopped it, oh man, I would have kept 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:17.920 that flood moving. Or my favorite, this is my favorite one. Right, 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:20.120 oh man, if you just had a couple more feet 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.720 between the fish and the boat, he'd eate that, you know, 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.440 so like you ever have that one a couple more 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:34.040 feets anyway, good site fisherman keep level heads and uh, 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.880 our friend and guy, Alvin Didoze certainly keeps his head level. 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.800 He's a very even keel guy. He is. He's very met, 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.480 he's very on the level. He's mellow. Yeah. He's also 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.280 no stranger to site fishing. So we brought him back 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.000 for our Smooth Moves segment where we call up guides, outfitters, 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:51.200 captains and sometimes even shop jockeys, anyone who makes a 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.080 living helping other people catch fish. Really and we asked 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:57.200 him to tell us ridiculous or hilarious or idiotic stories 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:00.040 about things that clients do. And wouldn't you know it, 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.199 Alvin has a story that we'll get more of your 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.720 Monday morning sidecasting quarterbacks saying well played, bro, good job. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:17.880 One of my favorite smooth moves that I witnessed quite 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:22.200 often on the boat on the skiff fishing for tailing 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:26.640 red fish in shallow water, very skittish fish, and it's 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:28.640 one of those kind of games where you gotta go 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:30.880 to from zero to a hundred at the blink of 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.400 an eye. So we're cruising around, we're looking for fish, 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.880 looking for fish. No fish, no fish, no fish, no fish. 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:41.720 All a sudden, there's a fish sixty ft one o'clock. Okay, 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:43.600 hang on, we're gonna little get a little bit closer. 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:45.640 We're get a little bit closer. Okay, you're good. Good, 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:49.360 put a cast out there. And then the move is 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:54.720 the body pump, where okay, we're trying to sneak up 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.760 on this fish in like eight inches of water. They 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:01.560 can feel every vibration for him a mile away, and 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.880 all we gotta do is ease up on them. In 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.360 the skiff, I'm pushing it as quietly as I can, 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:12.040 trying not to spook him. And right before my client 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.840 makes the cast, he's got to do a little hop 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:20.200 the body pump when you kind of jump up in 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.520 the air a little bit and then come down. Don't 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.720 ever take your feet off the ground. It's just like 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:29.600 a little like compression move. And it's awesome because what 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:33.079 happens is it sends the pressure wave through the hull 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:36.080 of the boat all the way up to the fish, 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.520 and before the fly even hits the water, the fish 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:43.160 is gone and I'm looking for another fish. So yeah, 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:47.560 the body pump class. You see this happen all the time, Alvin, 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.960 Like a lot of people sort of subconsciously do the 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:55.240 body pump. Yeah, yeah, it's it's a weird thing. I mean, 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.400 I don't do it, but it's just because I've seeing 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:02.040 it happens so many times. It's burned into my mind. 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:05.440 Like when you see the fish and are ready to 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:09.040 make your final presentation, don't jump up and down in 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:13.319 the air. I've never I've never thought about it. But 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.480 now I'm thinking back, and I'm like, oh god, I 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:19.080 probably do the body pump. Like I probably do that. 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:22.120 There's some variations on the body pump, you know, like 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:24.680 the two step or the three step, you know, the 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.160 pat pat pat, or the double the little the little 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:30.480 like tap dance of excitement. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.160 that's that's just a variation. Let me just think about it, 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:38.040 you know, Um, is that. I'm just curious, you know, 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:42.200 double tap, triple tap, two step. It's a move with 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.200 a lot of names, but they all have the name 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:54.880 result spooked fish. Oh yeah, I've done that. I've I've 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.600 body pumped probably two steps. I don't I don't know, 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:02.839 I've probably three steps. I think that probably that might 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:06.800 have been what cost me. Uh this tarpan that I 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:08.600 blew it on after I flew all the way to 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:12.000 Cuba to catch one. And that's the worst, right like 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.280 that is the absolute worst, when you screw up on 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.920 a destination fishing trip all the way overseas in a 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:22.040 middle seat to get over here U. And for me, 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:26.400 that's when the self loathing comes out. If I'm gonna 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.800 be again from this is an honesty day for me. 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.080 Like I if I blow it on a nice trout 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.079 somewhere close to home, I can I can shake that off. 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:36.080 I can forget about that one. I'm on. I'm onto 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:37.600 the next one. There there'll be another one. It's fine. 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:41.720 I can do this tomorrow. But on the road, like, 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.640 I've not just let myself down now, I've let a 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:48.480 guide down to and having been a guy like I 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:52.120 know your guys gonna say, oh, don't worry about it, 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:55.480 We'll find another one, right, because that's what guys do 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:57.800 that their professionals as a job. But but that guy 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:02.480 actually thinks, God, this guy sucks. Yeah, and like, yeah, 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:06.320 the guide takes your failure personally and then pretty much 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:08.800 hates you. That's just the truth. That's how it goes. 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.120 And I know it. Yeah, And no matter what, look, 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.560 whether you're with a guide or by yourself. Right, I've 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:17.560 found over the years in in sightcasting scenarios, at least 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:20.120 for me personally, like you have to nail the first 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:23.319 one or two shots. Like if you execute and get 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.480 those first one or two, it's it just sets you 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.319 up for success. It's fine, everything else is great. Then 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.080 like that gets the confidence way up and I tend 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.080 to be more on it for the entire rest of 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:36.000 the day. But the more you screw up early on, 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:39.080 the more you miss on those first couple of shots, 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:43.040 I think, the more likely it is you'll keep screwing up. Right, 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.040 And then that's that's that's why you gotta keep your 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:49.600 cool from the outset. You channel your inner Andre three thousand. 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:59.640 I don't think I have an inner, Andrea. I think 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:09.760 I have more like an inner rivers Cuomo, And this 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.600 feels like a good time for us to bring in 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.959 this week's awkward moments in angling. Seems like a good 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:18.920 time for that. Let's do that. But it's a picture 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:25.960 a la block. Who are we slapping on the awkward 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.360 moments in angland chopping block this week? The chopping block 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:31.600 in which the blood of our last victim, Alex Reid 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:36.000 is still trying in the wood grain. The answer would 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:41.560 be the answer, Hey, man, come on, I like it. 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:42.760 I like it. I'm not I'm not giving you a 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:44.840 hard time, Okay, all right, Well, the answer would be 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.240 Mr John, I'm gonna say Brower, but it could be 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.760 Brewer because there's elements of his name that could go 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.560 brow or brew So one of those two do you have? 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.280 You have an opinion on that. I'm going with Brewer, 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.560 just because I like the idea of him being you know, 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:01.640 but that's all John, No matter who you are, your 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.480 John Brewer for the rest of this um. Anyway, John 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:07.520 sent us his photo along with these opening lines. In 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:10.600 the email, he says, here's a pick from a few 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:14.120 years ago that is objectively pretty silly, but I'm still 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:18.440 slightly proud of okay, which is a slightly weird and 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.120 the way I see it, um, it's inclusion here on 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:23.240 this segment, John will either make you more proud of 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:26.560 it or possibly less because you've given us so much 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:29.840 to talk about with this image, and we we've kind 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.760 of had a habit of starting like with the attire 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.920 or these the scenario in awkward moments, and we sort 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.240 of like end up coming around to the fish at 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.120 some point. But this time we're going to start with 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:46.920 the fish because initially I couldn't find the fish. Wait, 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.600 there's a fish. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Yes, there's a fish. 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:52.080 Of course there's a fish. We know there's a fish. 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.240 But before we talk about that fish, I just want 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.000 to say, Man, I loved this photo. It's a good 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:01.600 one so much. It's a good one. If I were 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:05.760 described as photo, it would be just like pure unfiltered, unpolished, 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:10.720 no ego, no bullshit, fishing joy. Right when I see 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.200 this photo, that's what I see. I've seen someone who 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.960 is like transcended all the bs about taking a photo. 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.000 Was just like, oh my god, I'm having the greatest 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:22.400 day fishing. Was like it's he's like it's still pretty positive, 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:28.480 still pretty positive. He's just like in this photo, he 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:32.520 just he radiates everything that is good about fishing, you know, 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.960 setting aside the fact that in order to find the 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.200 actual fish in the picture, I had to do that 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:42.000 like squint and refocus, that that we all developed with 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.920 the Magic I three D picture books were kids. I 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.600 was definitely getting there, you and I did, and some 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:49.600 of our younger listeners would be like, what's up, what's 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:53.520 a magic guy? Um? But there there is in fact fish. Um. 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:58.120 It's an extremely tiny trout okay. And while John didn't 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:01.320 specify the species, I'm thinking can micro cutty. It's a 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.359 mountainous setting, could could be a micro Brookie like a 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.600 main setting. It's really it's hard to call okay um. 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:10.359 But according to John it was worthy of photo documentation 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.800 because it was his first wild fish and by that 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.480 I assume he means his first wild trout caught on 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.399 the fly. And you know what, like Bravo, there's nothing 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:24.720 wrong with that. Props for that judgment, no judgment. And 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.439 my money is on Cutty not Brookie, just from what 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:29.560 I can see. But it's hard to tell, uh. And 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.600 it's it's not only hard to do because the fish 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.720 is like really truly. I mean, if you guys look 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.840 at this, you'll see like tiny tiny, But also because 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:41.000 whoever took this photo was standing like ten ft away, 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.919 which is you know, good depth of field. The background 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:46.800 is gorgeous, but it's it's not so good if you're 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:48.600 if you've got like a macro subject that you're trying 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:52.560 to capture. Also, we got to talk about the hold 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:55.360 in this or like whatever that is. I don't even 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:57.800 know if we can call it a hold. So John's 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:01.159 got his fly routed his right hand end, and I 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.399 got in sort a quick tip here if if you 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.679 don't want to look like a complete and total geper 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:09.600 all of you out there, take off the plastic shrink 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:13.680 wrap from your rod handles before you fish with them. 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:16.240 This is like a basic thing that we should all know. 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:18.399 And if you don't know, hey maybe no one's told you, 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:20.240 but now you have no excuse take it off before 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.080 you fish. Anyway, that's a that's a pet peeve of mine, like, 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:24.720 like I see that, and I've had people saying, like 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.480 why do that to keep the cork nice? Like no, 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:31.480 I have to take that off. Take it off, just 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:36.160 the cork feels good in your hands. Plastic feels terrible anyway. 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.480 So he's got a shrink raptor rod in his right hand, 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.560 and then he's like he's also holding his leader in 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:46.280 that hand, but then further down the leader with his 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:48.880 is his other hand. He's like way up in the 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:52.080 air holding further down the leader, and I just don't 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.639 get it. He's like way above his head holding that 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:58.640 leader from which the fish is dangling, and I don't understand. 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:00.840 I can't see why any one would hold their fish 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.360 that way. Yeah, Like, yeah, he's got his one hand 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:07.399 extended way up and and this this tiny dangler is 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:11.680 hanging right in front of the screaming yellow life jack 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.240 at the John's wearing. So basically, if you're just like 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:16.760 doing a quick glance, it looks like John was, I 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:19.000 don't know, like photographed in the middle of doing the 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:22.119 Y M c A while holding a flyer on because 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:23.960 you can't see the fish like you have to hunt 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:28.840 for Unfortunately, though, right the fish is kind of the 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:33.840 least of John's offenses. Okay, because perched a top, John's 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:38.560 like Napoleon dynamite hair. Okay, it is some cross between 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:42.560 a cowboy hat and like a crocodile dundee hat. Right, 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:46.399 it appears to be hand Yeah, it's crocodile dundee. It 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:50.240 appears to be made of felt. It is extremely mint green. 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:54.600 It's so minty. Uh. It has a band that could 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.680 possibly be made of like amber beads featuring Dino d 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:00.840 na um. And he's even got the chin strap there 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:03.399 since tightly under his chin, like he's all in on 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:06.560 the hat. Like the hat is secure. The hat is 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:08.920 not coming off in a hurricane. Um. And the hat 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:11.040 and the strap it frames his face nicely. And that's 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:15.320 a face that's wearing Ken Griffy Jr. Sunglasses. Wow, that 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:19.280 was That was a menagerie of reference points you just 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:22.919 gave there. You don't even know where to go, so 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:27.119 many directions I'll go with, I'll go baseball. That was. 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:29.400 That was a Griffy reference, a Griffy Junior reference, which 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:31.919 it's very rare you get to sneak one of those in. 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:34.960 So that was good. I like that. And and uh, 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:37.240 you're right on, dude. Those shades do look a lot 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:40.560 like like like the Griffy shades that he was so 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:43.800 famous for. They've got that same Uh, I don't know, 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:48.959 inverted trapezoid thing. And yeah, the glasses are quite sporty, 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:52.840 but I gotta say John does not look particularly athletic 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.080 in the rest of his countenance in this photo. Dude's 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:58.440 kind of like a hot mess out there. Again, lots 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:00.520 of joy, but not really all that I'll put together. 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:03.480 You got like joy because his both his pants are 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:05.880 rolled up, but one pant legs rolled up higher than 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:09.160 the other significantly. And he's got like his his his 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:12.200 his fishing shirt wide open, and one side's hanging down 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:14.399 further than the other. And and then his life jacket 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:17.800 is also wide open. It's like straps falling everywhere, which 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:20.840