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Speaker 1: All right, y'all, welcome back to another gear Talk podcast

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Speaker 1: with Meanness with tell Us and the Great Jordan Bud.

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Speaker 1: We're talking gear as always today, specifically, we're gonna dive

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Speaker 1: into gear around traveling, like what we packed when we

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Speaker 1: go on on a hunt. We're gonna do some traveling,

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Speaker 1: jump into some airline stuff. Jordan was recently in Hawaii

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Speaker 1: and had to travel over there with oliver hunting gear,

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Speaker 1: weapons and whatnot, and uh so we figured it'd be

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Speaker 1: a good thing to touch on since it's so fresh

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Speaker 1: in Jordan's mind, and actually we can jump right in there. Jordan,

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Speaker 1: you haven't told me anything. Well, I got a picture.

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Speaker 1: I got three pictures of your your axis buck look

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Speaker 1: like a nice one. I don't know what a nice

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Speaker 1: one is. It looked pretty to me. But was it

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Speaker 1: a good one?

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Speaker 2: I hear it was. I When I went over there,

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Speaker 2: there's quite a few people that were like, you want

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Speaker 2: to aim for thirty inches and honestly total.

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Speaker 1: Like highth total length of mabem or what.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't looked. I like, literally yesterday,

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Speaker 2: I think it was yesterday. We got the buck shipped.

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Speaker 2: We got him shipped back over here. And I put

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Speaker 2: him out against the side of the house so he

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Speaker 2: was frozen so his head could start on and then

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Speaker 2: we can we could do a boil. I'm just going

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Speaker 2: to do a European mount on him. But I was

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Speaker 2: looking at him and I was like, I really should

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Speaker 2: google how you're actually supposed to score one of these.

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Speaker 2: And then I just haven't done it yet, but thirty

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Speaker 2: inches was supposed to be the goal, and I believe

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Speaker 2: we broke that what the guide says, but again, haven't

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Speaker 2: actually taped it. But dude, it was so fun. We

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Speaker 2: uh so we were on Lunai and we went to

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Speaker 2: Pineapple Brothers. It's uh, I think they might be the

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Speaker 2: only outfit that's on the island. But that island used

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Speaker 2: to be a Dole pineapple plantation.

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Speaker 1: I've heard about it, and so like, yeah, when.

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Speaker 2: You fly in, they like you can see where the

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Speaker 2: old pineapple fields were like blocked out, and they I

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Speaker 2: think it was in nineteen I'm pretty sure, as in

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Speaker 2: ninety two is when they pulled they there was another

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Speaker 2: company that bought out Dole and they thought that the

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Speaker 2: island would do better as a tourist destination basically, rather

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Speaker 2: than a pineapple plantation, so they pulled all the pineapples out.

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Speaker 2: And I was assuming that since that ground had been

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Speaker 2: like torn up and farmed, that there wouldn't be that

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Speaker 2: much brush there. And I was very wrong because it

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Speaker 2: is like it's super thick with brush. A lot of that.

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Speaker 2: A lot of those bushes and stuff are like eight

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Speaker 2: foot tall, and those access deer man when they they

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Speaker 2: like feed on the edges of it where it's a

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Speaker 2: little bit mostly just where there's more grass growing, and

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Speaker 2: then they go into it in the middle of the

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Speaker 2: day when it's hot, and when you walk into that stuff,

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Speaker 2: there's no like there's no there's no grass in there

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Speaker 2: at all, Like the canopy is so thick. There's just

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Speaker 2: it's just dirt underneath of it. So they have to

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Speaker 2: come out to feed. But it's a pretty it's a

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Speaker 2: pretty quick it's pretty quick hunt, you could say, because

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Speaker 2: it's like if you if you don't get on them,

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Speaker 2: like first thing in the morning, they're just they're all

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Speaker 2: going to be inside those super just like bushes. And

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know how you would get.

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Speaker 1: Them once you're there, I mean not you can't you

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Speaker 1: can't see fifty yards.

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Speaker 2: No, not at all. No, like you'd have trouble seeing

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Speaker 2: fifteen yards. So it's crazy. There's like there's a ton

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Speaker 2: of deer on that island, and uh, and we got

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Speaker 2: to see We got to see quite a few. There

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Speaker 2: was like the one evening we went out just to

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Speaker 2: and uh, we saw probably forty and kind of all

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Speaker 2: of the brush. So that was kind of cool to

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Speaker 2: see that many together. But yeah, I shot my buck

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Speaker 2: opening well the first day of my hunt, I guess,

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Speaker 2: I ended up shooting a dough too at about the

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Speaker 2: and they're all back home down the freezer.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when we were there, we ate, Oh what did

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Speaker 2: we eat? I think it was just a piece of tenderloin.

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Speaker 2: We did like a little cooking scene and it was

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Speaker 2: pretty good. It was the buck and he was a

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Speaker 2: and then on thawing it again we'll help with that.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea, but we have some thought out

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Speaker 2: right now for tonight.

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Speaker 1: So I think it would be good to, uh, since

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Speaker 1: this is on the heels of our bullet episode, to

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Speaker 1: talk about what bullets you used, what distance it was,

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Speaker 1: what caliber, and what the bullet performance was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so six or five creed more, I was shooting

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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty grain Sierra game King bullet and

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Speaker 2: with the buck it went, it went through and through

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Speaker 2: and it was like right behind the shoulder, tucked in

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Speaker 2: through lungs, and he went like thirty yards maybe the

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Speaker 2: dough though we actually uh, she was about the same

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Speaker 2: distance to I think like two sixty. She was a

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Speaker 2: little bit quartered away, and I put it like right

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Speaker 2: in front of the last rib, I would say, and

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Speaker 2: it went through her. It clipped like just a little

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Speaker 2: just went up through everything and stuck in her front

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Speaker 2: off shoulder. And we did pull, We did pull the

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Speaker 2: bullet out of her, and uh yeah it was. It

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Speaker 2: was like the back held together and then the front

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Speaker 2: mushroomed out. I mean it was about as good as

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Speaker 2: I I would have expected it to punch all the

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Speaker 2: hit all that. But I was still a little surprised.

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Speaker 2: But I'm used to like the one forties and just

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Speaker 2: that little bit of extra weight like could have carried

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Speaker 2: more momentum through her. But the bullet itself, like it

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Speaker 2: mushroomed out and you know, performed just as I thought

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Speaker 1: Seems like it kept most of its weight.

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Speaker 2: Oh for sure. Yeah, yeah, it did really good. I

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Speaker 2: had heard quite a few people talking on those game

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Speaker 2: kings that they would like just disintegrate. They've had experiences

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Speaker 2: like on Mule Deer and Elk where those game kings

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Speaker 2: just disintegrate. But this one held together really well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's a I'm trying to read up

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Speaker 1: real quick on it. I'm pretty sure it's a bonded

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Speaker 1: unique construction utilizes special lead alloys surrounded by a tough

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Speaker 1: copper jacket that delivers excellent penetration yeah, I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: it's a bonded bullet.

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Speaker 2: I think it's really similar not soup, not exactly, but

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Speaker 2: it's kind of similar to like the eld X.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tip, I think there was a while where people

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Speaker 1: shot the Sierra match What's match King maybe?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, their match King they kind of have. I was

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Speaker 2: having trouble following their names for all of their different

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Speaker 2: bullets because they had a lot of them that the

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Speaker 2: verbiage kind of overlapped.

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Speaker 1: Now, I wouldn't be surprised if there's people that had

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Speaker 1: match King experiences and are saying that about the game King,

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Speaker 1: because the match King is a you know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: a target bullet. It's like the original Burgers, right that

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Speaker 1: they're very very frangible. Uh, and they're gonna blow up, right?

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Speaker 1: I bet? I bet that that could be not saying

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Speaker 1: that for sure, whoever you talked to you mixed it up,

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Speaker 1: but it seems it seemed hard to believe that these

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Speaker 1: was just extreme close range and super high speed. You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, I think I'm running twenty eight hundred out

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Speaker 2: of the muzzle with those one thirties, so.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's something they were accurate. That's good. That's

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Speaker 1: something to talk about. I chronoed my I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you call it kronode if you use a lab radar,

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Speaker 1: but Garret and I did lab radar for my six

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Speaker 1: the one forty acubonds and you just said you had

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Speaker 1: twenty eight out of the muzzle, those one forty acubonds

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Speaker 1: twenty five hundred.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which which rifles that out.

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Speaker 1: Of my cross?

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Speaker 1: And Garrett's just saying it's because it's a short barrel.

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Speaker 1: But he says, like it's a known thing. At those

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Speaker 1: shorter cross barrels. It's like you just can't build enough

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Speaker 1: pressure to really get those higher speeds. But is your

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Speaker 2: I'm at twenty six yeah, for one for the one

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Speaker 2: forties with eighteen inch barrel, I was at twenty six

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Speaker 2: hundred right about twenty six. This this rifle that I

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Speaker 1: Interesting, yeah, a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit like and then different bullets. So I haven't

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Speaker 2: like with a sixteen inch barrel. It's just probably what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know off the top of my head,

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Speaker 1: but it definitely it's nice because it's short and it's

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Speaker 1: ever in my you know, career of messing around with

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Speaker 1: is going to lessen your pressures and thus lessen your

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Speaker 1: your speeds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just running slower. Yeah, I know, it's just one

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Speaker 2: of those things. And I think just a creed More

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Speaker 1: No, I know, it's funny. Somebody I actually just picked

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Speaker 1: up like a it was a Peterson's Deer and Deer Hunting.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was that one anyways, some

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Speaker 1: it was a Deer Hunting magazine grocery store. I was

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Speaker 1: to flip through one of these see what's going on.

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Speaker 1: And a guy had a very well written article about

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Speaker 1: the six y five creed More and about the stuff

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Speaker 1: that the crazy stuff that he hears at the range

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Speaker 1: and at the gun shop, about how you know, it's

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Speaker 1: the best thing ever. A thousand yard gun can kill

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Speaker 1: anything under the moon. YadA YadA, yada's And he kind

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Speaker 1: of really broke it down ballistically and what it was,

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Speaker 1: and in the end he's like, it's a great three

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Speaker 1: hundred yard deer gun and no more hm and sure

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Speaker 1: can you push it? And I've shot an elk with

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Speaker 1: it, It killed it. That's not true. I've never shot one

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Speaker 1: with a sixty five creed More, but I've shot a

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Speaker 1: few with a six by fifty five Swede, which is

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Speaker 1: very very close to the emballistics. But yeah, it's not.

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Speaker 1: You can shoot at a thousand yards at targets, and

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Speaker 1: and it's known for its inherent accuracy. But yeah, it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's not a big old bank stick that that freezes

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Speaker 2: No, no, no it's not. But I just got my

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Speaker 2: suppressor for it, oh like right before I left it finally, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: section where the grass is really good. I mean we

432
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: were walking two three mile you know, sometimes three miles

433
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: one direction, and they coming back and seeing six piles

434
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: of poop total, and he just felt like they weren't

435
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: concentrated on the roads like they can be. And that

436
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 1: might have been because it was a bit of a

437
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,479
Speaker 1: early spring even though they had a good winter, it

438
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: got hot, hot and got springy fast because there wasn't

439
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: a lot of snow. All the hillsides were pretty green.

440
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: So I think that the bears they just didn't have

441
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,479
Speaker 1: to be on the roads feeding they could. They were

442
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: spreading out and feed all over the place. We saw

443
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: grizz which was cool. I saw more grizz and I

444
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: saw black bears. Cory and I each saw two bears.

445
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: We overlapped on one saw like a four and a

446
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: half foot sal but it was through the windshield on

447
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: the road. And it was the first day. I just

448
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: didn't know right about killing her, you know, basically watch

449
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: her go up into the woods and then make us

450
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,479
Speaker 1: leaving the truck making a fifty yard stock and shooting

451
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: a bear. Just it wasn't on the last day. Sure

452
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: I tried, you know, blood sweat and tears and been

453
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: chewed on by mosquitos for six days. Sure, but I

454
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: did get out a very good opportunity glass of a bear.

455
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: Second to last night and roughly not quite a mile

456
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I just did the quick two

457
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: finger you got Have you used that feature yet? On

458
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: X It's pretty slick. They have a new feature where

459
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,239
Speaker 1: you can use two fingers. Just you just got your

460
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: map open like you always do, and all you do

461
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: is just drop two fingers on your map, hold it

462
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: there for a second and it'll give you don't before

463
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: you pick up your fingers, you'll see a red line

464
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: pop up and it'll give you that distance. Yeah, so

465
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: you don't have to do the two points anymore, which

466
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: is pretty slick. I did that. It came out to

467
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, zero point seven point eight something like that.

468
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: But I had to drop off this. I was on

469
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: a logging road, had a drop off probably five hundred

470
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: feet or so across the creek, climb up five hundred

471
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: feet and then go across this hillside. I don't know

472
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: what it was like. I said three quarters of a

473
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: mile or so, and it was eight oh eight. I

474
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: remember looking at my looking at the phone as soon

475
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: as I saw him eight oh eight and last shooting

476
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: light was nine thirty, so I had not quite ninety minutes.

477
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: But I figured gotta go same to last day. I've

478
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: only seen one bear so far. You gotta try. So

479
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: I take off running, make it across the creek on

480
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: the other side, going across this burn jumping, you know,

481
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: lots of log burn, log stuff. And I get to

482
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: get to where I can, I should be able to

483
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: see him. I find him. He's at three point thirty

484
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: and it's getting it's getting later, like it's definitely after

485
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: nine at this point. So but I've got half an hour,

486
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: I think. I'm thinking, like, I've got time, be patient,

487
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: get it, get a nice rest set up, you'll get

488
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: an opportunity. But he's working. He's in this big draw

489
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: and he's the top end of the draw. There's a

490
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: little bit of water in it, but it's timbered bottom

491
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: of the draw, and the sides of the bottom are

492
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: all just open, well open because it's been burnt, so

493
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: you can see in there, and there's feed in there.

494
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: And he's just kind of slowly working to the left.

495
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking, well, he's been out here already for

496
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: an hour. He'll stay out here feeding till dark. Why not?

497
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: And when I first got set up, I couldn't get

498
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: the angle proper, Like I couldn't get steep enough to

499
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 1: make a shot. So I had to put my backpack

500
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: down first, and then my bipod on top of that,

501
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 1: and that gave me a steep enough angle to get

502
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: the shot, and I had a pretty good opening right

503
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: when I got there too him, but he kept working left,

504
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: and you know how it is those burns. You think

505
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: it's wide open because you can see the bear of

506
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: your naked eye dang near at three quarters of a mile.

507
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: But you get there and you realize just how many

508
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: trees or you know, because you're not just looking through

509
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: the trees where he's at, there's all the tops of

510
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: the trees that are the one hundred yards between you

511
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: and him. Right there's just been branches and whatever. And

512
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: he just kept ambling to the left and basically ambled

513
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: right into the timber. And at that point it was

514
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, nine twenty nine twenty five. I mean,

515
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 1: I had minutes left and there was gonna be no

516
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: second opportunity. So he slipped out of there by the

517
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: hair on his chinny chin chin, And uh, I can't

518
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: say that's happened to me too many times where I

519
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: really felt like I was going to kill that animal

520
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: and then he just slipped through my fingers and.

521
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: Retrospect ripped off a predator call in gres Country.

522
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean retrospectively, a lot of things I could

523
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: have yelled at him, tried and stopped him. I could

524
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: maybe just try to shoot off my elbows, which elbows

525
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: three hundred yards even if you're prone, it seems a

526
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: little bit long. I haven't practiced that shot a lot.

527
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: I probably should, just to see how I do at

528
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: three hundred yards just shooting off my elbows. I feel

529
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: like at two hundred yards it wouldn't be a problem.

530
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: Three thirty I don't know. And with the way I

531
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: wounded that one two years ago, I'm definitely a little

532
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: trigger shy. Want to make a good shot the next

533
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: time I shoot at a bear and recover him. Uh so, yeah,

534
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: I could predatorcall pretty heavy grizz country, So I you know,

535
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: being ten minutes before dark, I didn't want to blow

536
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: a bunch on the predator call. And then, you know,

537
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: then I had to walk out of there in the dark,

538
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: and you know, just thinking about who's who you who

539
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: else you've been calling in with that, you know. So anyways,

540
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: lessons learned came out. No bear had a good time though,

541
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: super fun.

542
00:29:52,960 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, we have a listener's success story. This might

543
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: be our first.

544
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was super stoked to see this in the notes.

545
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so a fellow wrote in to gear

546
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: Talk at themeter dot com. His name is Kevin Younkin.

547
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: He took his kid out. He says, I wanted to

548
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: share a success story related to some information I gained

549
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: from a recent gear talk episode. In episode eleven, Yanni

550
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: talked about the advantages of using a red dot site

551
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: for Turkey season. I had been debating putting a red

552
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: dot on my daughter's shotgun, and Yanni's thoughts were convincing.

553
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: We bought a Vortex Venom three moa site and mounted

554
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: it on a weatherb SA twenty. We used a rib

555
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: mount from Meadow Creek Mounts. He says it's highly recommended,

556
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: and uh, signing it in and pattering her turkey loads

557
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: was super simple. She killed a jake bird on the

558
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: youth opener at twenty five yards, So there you go.

559
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I'm glad that that it word for him.

560
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: I will add to that too, that the Meadow Creek

561
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: mount that he's speaking of really good product. If you've

562
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: got a shotgun that the where the receiver isn't tapped

563
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: or doesn't have a pickrail on the back, where you

564
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: could just mount a red dot. Greg, I believe this

565
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: is his name over at Meadow Creek Mounts makes a

566
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: mount that you just mount right to your rib and

567
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: then put the red dot on top of that. So

568
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: it's a very inexpensive way to be able to get

569
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: your red dot on your shotgun. If it's not a

570
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: shotgun that you know is set up to receive that

571
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: on the receiver, I will say, I do believe it's

572
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: I've shot birds with that same sane exact setup actually

573
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: with that gun mounted on those SAO eights, and if

574
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: you can, I think it's better to have that that

575
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: red dot on the receiver because it's closer to your eye,

576
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: so that field of view within the frame of the

577
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: red dot is bigger the farther way it gets from you,

578
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: and get smaller and smaller. It still works great, but

579
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: I think in the perfect world you'd mount it on

580
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: the receiver and get it as close to your eye

581
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: as you can. But again that's if you if your

582
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: gun's not tapped for mounts, uh, you're gonna have to

583
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: go to a gunsmith and have them do it. Probably

584
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: not gonna cost you too much, but there is the

585
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, the work of that you're gonna have to

586
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: put in to get that done.

587
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, moving on into a Q and A. I've

588
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: got a little bit of a story with this on

589
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: some minwe gear too. We got another email from Chris Duggan.

590
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: He says, what do you think of muzzle breaks on guns?

591
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: And uh, I'll let you take that one Johnnie to start.

592
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, it's complicated because what a muscle break does

593
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: is it reduces recoil. And some of them are even

594
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: poured in such a way where the blast is supposed

595
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: to go up or to the side more to limit

596
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: the rise, like like the vertical jump of the barrel,

597
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: which makes it easier to stay on target. Both the

598
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: like the reduced recoil and the fact that it jumps

599
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: less up and down it's going to help you stay

600
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: on your target, both great things. Unfortunately, the muzzle break

601
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: makes the gun exponentially louder. I don't know the actual number,

602
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: but it is much louder, so much worse for your hearing,

603
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: and it's especially noticeable for anybody that's with you because

604
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 1: the shooter being right behind the gun, you don't receive

605
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: the brunt of what comes from the muzzle break. If

606
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: you have someone just off to your side or even

607
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: somehow just standing behind you. Boy did they get their

608
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: nogg and rocked. And again, if everybody's got earpro on,

609
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: no big deal. So I guess that's my thought. These days,

610
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: it seems like they come standard. Where it used to

611
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: be a thing you had to go to a gunsmith

612
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 1: for ten years ago, Now I don't. It's probably hard

613
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: to go into sportsman's and find a rifle that isn't

614
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: threaded for a muzzle break.

615
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: I think a lot of them are at least threaded,

616
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 2: like you said, and ready to accept one. I just

617
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 2: put an MDT Elite muzzle break on this rifle that

618
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 2: I took to I took to Hawaii, and one of

619
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 2: the main reasons I did that was because they're just like,

620
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: they're nicer to shoot. So I went to the range

621
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: and was shooting. I was, you know, I shot this

622
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 2: one with a muzzle break on it. I shot basically

623
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: the exact same gun without a muzzle break on it,

624
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: and I shot the one with a break on it first.

625
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: And I didn't do this as a test. I just

626
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: kind of did it because I was just doing it.

627
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: When I went from the muzzle break to the six '

628
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 2: five that didn't have a muzzle break on it. It

629
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: was a noticeable increase of recoil and a creed more

630
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: is not going to kick that bad. They just don't anyways.

631
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: But I mean even lessening that up more is kind

632
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: of nice, just like tracking your shot especially kind of

633
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: like goofy positions that you can find yourself in in

634
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: hunting situations, Like if you can just reduce some of

635
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: the recoil and be able to track your shot, it

636
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: could really could really help you there. So that's why

637
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: I put it on. And then but with that, it

638
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: is freaking loud. And I did a little uh, I

639
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: did a little research on some hearing protection and went

640
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 2: and bought myself. I think as good of hearing protection

641
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: as i've they've ever had other than just you know,

642
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: regular foamis. And yeah, we'll dig into that on the

643
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: new gear if you want to rock into that. I mean,

644
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 2: is there anything to really wrap up with muzzle breaks?

645
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 2: Like the pros they make your rifle easier to shoot,

646
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: the cons it makes it really loud, like that's probably

647
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: it's probably the big thing there are you know, now

648
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: that we dig into this, we should do an episode

649
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: on muzzle breaks. Get somebody on because there are like,

650
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 2: there are a lot of different kinds of muzzle breaks,

651
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: and like some of them that come stock on rifles

652
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: now that just have holes drilled all the way around

653
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: them in a bunch of different ways. They just make

654
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: it really loud. They from what I've read and heard

655
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 2: guys that have used them a lot, they're like, they

656
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: don't really help with anything other than they make it

657
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: really loud. Like they might help a little bit, but

658
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: they're not gonna help. Like the side ports that divert

659
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 2: that gas like back towards you a little bit to

660
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: help to help with the recoil. I don't know. There's

661
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: just a lot of science into it for something that

662
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 2: just screws on in your barrel.

663
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's where suppressors can't come in, because

664
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 1: you're kind of getting the you know, the advantage of both.

665
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, suppressors are mine still sitting in the closet

666
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: because they Hawaii doesn't allow suppressors, so I couldn't even

667
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: take it. I couldn't even take it with me. So

668
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 2: I still need to shoot that this week and get

669
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: it get it ready for this bear hunt. But yeah,

670
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: it uh, I'm excited to try it because it's gonna be.

671
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: It's definitely I think the better way to go. It's

672
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 2: just like just as we talked about, takes forever. It can, yeah,

673
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 2: can take it. But once you get it, you're gonna

674
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: be so stoked. Yeah, I know, I'm pumped. Yeah. So

675
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: some new and interesting gear. I've got a couple things quick.

676
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 2: First thing goes along with the muzzle break was Hearing Pro.

677
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: So I literally just went into Sportsman's warehouse and started

678
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: walking around and looking at some of their hearing protection

679
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 2: and Walker's ear protection, Like they have a huge line

680
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: and you know, something that we've got a few questions

681
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: on that we haven't tackled yet. This is definitely more

682
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: of a question for you. But like kids hearing pro,

683
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: and I saw that Walkers they have a lot of

684
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: like kids specific headphones for hearing protection, So I thought

685
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 2: that was kind of cool.

686
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: Nice.

687
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I ended up going with a set. It's

688
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: called the VX three point zero headset, and it basically

689
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: is a thing that goes around your neck kind of

690
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 2: like you know the Orange deals go around your neck

691
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: to just have Foamy's on you plug them into your

692
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: ears the cheap ones. This one goes around your but

693
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: has earbuds that pull out and go into your ears

694
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 2: and it's noise canceling. Plus it's you know, it's like

695
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 2: noise canceling when you shoot, and then it's like you

696
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: can hear really well when you're not shooting, so you

697
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 2: can hunt with them in. So I got a set

698
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 2: of those. They make them in bluetooth also, so you

699
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: can like bluetooth music to your ears if you want to.

700
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: That was a little overkill for me, and it was

701
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 2: a lot more expensive, so I just went with the

702
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 2: regular ones. But I got Leah a pair of that

703
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 2: are just like regular earbuds, like no wires holding them

704
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: together or anything. The only reason I didn't go with

705
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: those is because I was afraid of losing them in

706
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: the field if you're gonna have them in a lot.

707
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: So that's why I didn't go those. I went with

708
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 2: this other thing, and I was a little worried about it,

709
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: like just being around my neck all the time. I

710
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 2: thought that that could be kind of cumbersome and annoying,

711
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: But it's super flexible and it was. It's honest been

712
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 2: kind of a game changer, Like I don't I don't

713
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: see myself not having them on just so I can

714
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: like pop your pro in real quick and like you

715
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: put them in and as long as you turn the

716
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: unit on, you can still hear everything. Yeah, it's going on,

717
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: so you can communicate.

718
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: What's nice about it is if you don't have time

719
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: or forreget to turn it on, it still works. As

720
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: far as the hearing protection.

721
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, you run out of batteries or whatever.

722
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, I didn't think I'd ever get

723
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: so excited about hearing protection, but I'm pretty I'm pretty

724
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: excited about it.

725
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. A good place to to get more information on

726
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: hearing pro if you're to thinking about getting yourself some

727
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 1: legit hearing protection is auto Pro Technologies. It's just spelled

728
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: ot op ro o Technologies dot com. We did a

729
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: podcast at meat Eater with Grace that owns Auto pro

730
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: and runs it, and uh, I think I got the

731
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: sound gear Phantoms, which sounds similar, but they do also

732
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: have the bluetooth so you can listen to a pot

733
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: I wear them now just doing weed whack and at

734
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: the house and listen to music and podcasts while I'm running,

735
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: you know, weed eater, chainsaw whatever saved my ears and

736
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: being entertained, So pretty cool. Nice.

737
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah they look good. I just popped them up here.

738
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: Yeah there's there's slick as can be. All right, what's next?

739
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: Uh? Last thing for me for new and exciting stuff.

740
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: I've got my hands on this. I haven't used it

741
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: in the field yet, but I I handled it on

742
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: a desk. The new Titanium backpacking stove from our Golly.

743
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: He has two different site like the stove is the

744
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: same size, but he sells it in like a five

745
00:41:54,320 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: foot not chimney pipe, yeah, yep, stove pipe, and then

746
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: a six foot and it's two pounds eight ounces, so

747
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: it's kind of set up like a box stove. Looks

748
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: pretty good. If you're in the market, check it out.

749
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: I love them, man, when it's the right kind of weather,

750
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: that little little I have the one from Seek Outside

751
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: and pair it with a redcliff tent normally, but man,

752
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: late October November, you're going to be stoked and cozy

753
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: and drying gear and hunting a lot longer than other

754
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: folks that don't have a similar setup. And it's all

755
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: light enough where you can get into the back country.

756
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, packs down pretty small and yeah, handy as heck.

757
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: What have you found.

758
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: Lately, luckily, I mean big time. It was serendipitous. A

759
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: couple of days before I left from my family turkey hunt,

760
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: my buddy and I were running together. He says, oh,

761
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: you have you ever tried to shelter? I go, no,

762
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: never heard of it. I thought, well, I thought maybe

763
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: Clam used to make ice fishing shanties. He's like, maybe

764
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: it's kind of like an ice fishing shanty. So he says, well,

765
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: you want to borrow it? Said, yeah, it's supposed to

766
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: be a little rainy, I'll bring it. Thank goodness, because look,

767
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: those sektpe's are great. They're light, but and this thing's

768
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: not light. I mean it weighs I don't know, fifty

769
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:26,479
Speaker 1: sixty pounds. But the difference is that like a seek

770
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: out side shelter, it's the shape of a teepee. The

771
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: clam has got vertical walls, right, so you just have

772
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: that much more room. And I didn't need I mean

773
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: we set it up right next to the truck. I

774
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: didn't need it to be light, right, So it was

775
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: just that it was a way more comfortable space to

776
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: be in for car camping. And like I said, we

777
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time. Well, I don't know if

778
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: I mentioned this earlier. We spent a lot of time

779
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: in the tent basically for three days, and we had

780
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: brought games with us. Oh no car, So we played

781
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: some Latvian card games. We played Gin Rummy, we played

782
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: Rummy Cube RUMMYO. I don't know how what the name

783
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 1: of that game is. It's one of the tiles. Anyways,

784
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: silver lining there was that the kids had a great

785
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: time three days in a tent, partially, dude, because we

786
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: had a nice shelter, and partially hopefully it is because

787
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: we've raised them right and they don't need they don't

788
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: need to be plugged in to have a good time. Yeah,

789
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: but this Clam was clutch. I actually have a ten

790
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: x ten like pop up just awning.

791
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

792
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: That also is a heavy soccer that's I don't know,

793
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: sixty seventy pounds, but it's durable, like I'll have this

794
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: thing for ten years. We had that thing over the

795
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: entrance of this Clam shelter. If you want to look

796
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: it up online, it's called the Quick Set. Quicksetshelters dot

797
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: Com is the website and it's by Clam. I think

798
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: Clam's owns a bunch of other companies. But anyways, I

799
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: mean it's basically a ice fishing ice fishing shanty, but

800
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: not insulated.

801
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: Does it pop up like a pop up blind like

802
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: did the hubs pop in?

803
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, got it exactly. Like all the walls you

804
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 1: just pull on the handles, they pop out. Ceiling goes

805
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: up when it got completely drenched after two days and

806
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: then we had some pretty heavy winds coming around and

807
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: pushing down on the ceiling. We actually we had to

808
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: go and cut a center pole and put it in there.

809
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't have that because it was popping the ceiling down.

810
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: But like I said, for what it is, it has

811
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: its limits. And being drenched and soaked, I think put

812
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: a lot of weight and you know, made the structure

813
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 1: a little bit weaker, and then you know the wind

814
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: pushing on it. You know, we had the roof roof

815
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: class couple of times. So we just went and cut

816
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: it whatever nine foot pole and stuck it in there

817
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 1: and it was good to go. Even though that happened,

818
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: I am one hundred percent gonna have one for my

819
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: next family camping trip. Like it was that slick, like

820
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: if it got buggy. The fit nice thing about it

821
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: the walls can roll up and you still have screens

822
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: on all sides, so if it got buggy, you could

823
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: get in there and have a great shelter and not

824
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: be cooking in there because you have plenty of breeze.

825
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: We actually did speaking of cooking, we did do cook eventually.

826
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: We brought the kitchen in there and did all of

827
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: our hanging out cooking in there, and if we needed to,

828
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, let it air out, we just you know,

829
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: pop open a couple of windows and let it do that.

830
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, I was very very stoked on that.

831
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: I'm I'm deep in the planning of really awesome car

832
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: camping camps currently, so this is really appealing to me.

833
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would, I would. I would looked into it,

834
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: and my buddy's already had it for three years and

835
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: he says it's been been tough, been working, So yeah,

836
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: check check it out. All right. So for our main

837
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: section here, our segment today, uh gear for traveling and

838
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: around traveling. Jordan, you you started it off with a

839
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: question of, uh, what you typically bring it for gear?

840
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: I feel like that question is a little bit broad.

841
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: I think you need to you need to ask me

842
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, gotta make that conciser, so I

843
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: can I know exactly what to answer.

844
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: Well, here's here's the hard part with it is like

845
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: the way I packed for Hawaii was like one eighty

846
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 2: degree difference from how i'd pat going to Alaska. Like

847
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: when you and I went on our caribou hunt, it

848
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 2: was like two duffel bags completely packed full of stuff,

849
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: and then a bow case packed full of stuff, and

850
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: then why trip was like gun case, one roller bag,

851
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 2: and off we went. It was so much simpler. So

852
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: I like for this trip, and I think some like

853
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: like this was a guided trip and so I think,

854
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: and we were staying in an airbnb. We weren't like

855
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: backpacking doing any overnight stuff, so there wasn't that much

856
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: camping stuff I had to bring, which really takes up

857
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 2: most of the room. When all you have to bring

858
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 2: is like clothing and your gun, it it eliminates a

859
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 2: lot of the stuff.

860
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's nice when you can pack light.

861
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it made it made a huge difference. So yeah,

862
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 2: what are you typically bringing for gir Yanni?

863
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: My question the kitchen sink and everything with it. I mean,

864
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: obviously you do have to pack a little bit smarter

865
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: when you're when you're traveling because you can't really bring

866
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: the kitchen sink. You know, whatever clothing you're gonna need

867
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: for the trip. And we've talked about this before previous

868
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: Gear Talk episodes. Yeah, is that clothing I feel like

869
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: is a place where a lot of people can slim down.

870
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: You just you don't need two bass layers for even

871
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: a seven or eight day trip. Okay, these base layers

872
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 1: that we all wear and sell these days, they dry quickly,

873
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: they don't get too stinky. You'll be fine in just one, right,

874
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: and that kind of goes on down the line. You know,

875
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: you don't need five pairs of socks for a five

876
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: day hunt. You know you can do it easily in two.

877
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: So slim down there. Another gear I do like to

878
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: bring is definitely bringing yetti hopper to put meat in.

879
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: I feel like that is the best way to travel

880
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: home with meat. The yettie hopper, you can kind of

881
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: squish it up. It doesn't squish up great, but depending

882
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: on how much room you got in a tough wall,

883
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: you can squish up into a dough. Or sometimes if

884
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm bringing I don't know, maybe some presents or you know,

885
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 1: some gifts to wherever I'm going or I don't know

886
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: some snacks or food that I want to have with me,

887
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: I can. I'll just check it and then hopefully come

888
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: back with you know, having full of deer meat. And

889
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that those Yetti hopper forties, if you

890
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: pack it full of deep bone meat, you're gonna be

891
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: close to one hundred pounds. I mean you can really

892
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: like meat is heavy and dense, and you can get

893
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: a lot in there. I've said this before too. I

894
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: don't worry about getting it frozen or even completely processed.

895
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 1: I just get it off the bone, get it cooled down,

896
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: like as cool as possible overnight in a fridge. Is

897
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: gonna be plenty. And if you put all that thirty

898
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: five to forty degree meat into a Yetti hopper in

899
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: the morning and then fly all day and get home

900
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: that evening sometime, I think your meat's gonna be plenty

901
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: cold enough. We should do a test one day. I

902
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: need to bring a thermometer and see you test it

903
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: what it is in the morning when you put it

904
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: in there, and then and then see how much it

905
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: warms up. But I'm guessing because there's not much air

906
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: in there. If you close that zipper tight you know,

907
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 1: you're not getting air going in and out. Those things

908
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: insulate that meat very well.

909
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we did that in Alaska with my caribou.

910
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 2: I think debone we were we had two of the

911
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 2: hoppers full of meat, yep, and I think all we

912
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: did was, I mean we hung the quarters up and

913
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: then the next day or when we got back to

914
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 2: uh where we were staying, I deboned them and put

915
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: them right into the cooler like that, not like and

916
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: I was going to put a trash bag around it,

917
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 2: like put the meat in the trash bag, and you're like,

918
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even do that, just put it in the cooler.

919
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 2: So that's what I did. And it was almost nicer

920
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: when we got back because you didn't have to thaw

921
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 2: out a bunch of frozen meat too. It was like

922
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 2: ready to just trim up and package and throw the freezer.

923
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: Because I mean, unless you're staying at a camp that

924
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: has a nice not a butchering facility, but has a setup,

925
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, at the minimum of a table to work

926
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: on and then you know your paper and tape and

927
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: everything you need to package it up or vaxies or whatever.

928
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: If you have that at hand, and you have time

929
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: to get it frozen. Sure you can go you can

930
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: go that route, but most of the time that's not

931
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: on hand. You just got to get to meet home.

932
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: A big reason I don't like to freeze it is

933
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: because anytime you freeze meat, you're breaking cell walls down,

934
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: and then when it thaws the cell walls that you

935
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: that you broke. That's what causes like that. Even though

936
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: you have a completely dry piece of meat, when you

937
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: wrap it up and freeze it and you thought it

938
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: and you have this bleeding that goes on right, and

939
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: you have a that's all you got to thaw stuff

940
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: out on a on a pan or or a plate.

941
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: Otherwise you end up with a puddle of blood in

942
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: your fridge. That's a real pain. And that happens because

943
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: it's been frozen and broke cell walls down and then

944
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: basically that juice or blood, whatever you want to call it,

945
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: leaks out. And so if you don't freeze it, you're

946
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 1: not going to have that problem. And the reason I'm

947
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: worried about that is that I've been told by the

948
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: airlines that if you're uh cooler leaks, that gives them

949
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: the right to just yank it and dispose of it. Yeah,

950
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: and so you don't want that happening, So you can

951
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: some people will put a towel or some paper towels,

952
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: you know, on the top near the zipper or you know,

953
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: the latches whatever you're using to prevent that. If you

954
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: did have some sort of you know, moisture coming out,

955
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: that would hopefully catch it and prevent leakage. But again,

956
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: if you don't freeze it, the meat really shouldn't be

957
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: producing this juice, meat, blood, whatever you want to call it.

958
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, super interesting point. And I've got just since I've

959
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 2: been back for a week, I've gotten a ton of questions,

960
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: Like the mostly the most questions I've gotten from the

961
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,479
Speaker 2: Hawaii trip is how you got me home? And there's

962
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: like a couple points I want to make this. So

963
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 2: when we went, we hunted for two days and then

964
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: we vacationed for two days. If you're gonna go do

965
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 2: something like that, flip it vacation first and then hunt last.

966
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 2: So then you are you can take soft coolers just

967
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 2: like Yanni just talked about, put the meat in them

968
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 2: and fly at home with you. It's gonna be a

969
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 2: hell of a lot cheaper than shipping it because we

970
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 2: vacationed after and the outfit just has a meat processor

971
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 2: that they take it to, which I don't mind doing

972
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 2: that because he just did it all for us. But

973
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 2: I had to ship it home because we were literally

974
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 2: living out of a camper van in Hawaii for like

975
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: three nights on our vacation side of it, so like

976
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 2: no freezer to put meat in, yeah, and then try

977
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: to take it home with us. So it got FedEx

978
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 2: overnighted here Monday night, which was fantastic. I had roughly

979
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: thought about how much that was going to cost for

980
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: one box, but they sent two boxes instead of one box,

981
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 2: so it was like a smidgeon over four digits. And

982
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know, really, Oh dude, I

983
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 2: got railed.

984
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: I yeah, I mean, I guess why might I even

985
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: be surprised you're shipping an animal home from Hawaii? Of

986
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: course it's going to be a thousand bucks.

987
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 2: College and of course, and then next cheap no, And

988
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: next thing is like if you have to ship it,

989
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 2: If you have to ship it and you're going to

990
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 2: freeze it beforehand, don't ship it overnight. Ship it like

991
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 2: two day. It would have been just fine on two day.

992
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 2: It didn't really have to be overnight, but that's, you know,

993
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: kind of just the standard. And I didn't know any better,

994
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 2: and here we are. But it's uh, yeah, it's just

995
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: a good learning. People should learn from my mistakes, I guess,

996
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 2: or experiences, I should.

997
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: Say, if for some reason people are timid about bringing

998
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: meat on a plane like we do. But I'm telling

999
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: you now, it's been ten years for me of messing

1000
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: around with this meat eater thing and flying around flying

1001
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: meat home, and we've never had a problem. We've never

1002
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: lost meat, we've never had meat go bad because of it,

1003
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: we haven't had the leakage issue and lost our coolers.

1004
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: It's we've had very good luck. We've even done it

1005
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: with yetti hard sides, which I think we probably did

1006
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: it once or twice. And you realize that that is

1007
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: just too heavy of a container to do that because

1008
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: you're just you're paying so much for the weight of

1009
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: the cooler itself. Where the soft sided hopper, you know,

1010
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: it's the weight's negligible. What I mean, it's probably less

1011
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: than five pounds.

1012
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and depending what you can also save a little

1013
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 2: bit more money depending on what size of the soft

1014
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: cooler you have you could carry it on, yeah, the

1015
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 2: backpack cooler, Yeah, you can carry it on. We've we've

1016
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 2: done that before.

1017
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 1: So yeah, I bet you YETI thirty would easily go

1018
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: as a carry on easy.

1019
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yeah, those backpack ones. I've got one of

1020
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 2: those backpack ones in it. It fits in the overhead

1021
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 2: bind super nice. So all things to think about if

1022
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: you're playing in a if you're playing in a trip

1023
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 2: like that, what about like bag wise, what other bags

1024
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,959
Speaker 2: are there? Like bags you like always default too.

1025
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: Or you know with our connection with the first Light,

1026
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: I mean pretty much any kind of duffle, and I've

1027
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: used duffels from Patagoing in North Face f h Chef Duffels,

1028
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: which I don't know if they have them right now.

1029
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: They had some old versions. Any AnyWho be on the

1030
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: lookout because I think there's some there's some pretty sweet

1031
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: duffels coming from that f HF down the line. But

1032
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm trying a lot of them and they just seem

1033
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: they just seem to work. It's easy, Uh, they seem

1034
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: pretty tough if you need to. Most of them come

1035
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: with some kind of backpack strap so you can throw

1036
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,479
Speaker 1: them on your back and you know, walk a little

1037
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: ways with them if you need. I still haven't gotten

1038
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: one with the rollers, because again, when you get those

1039
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: roller bags, they do add a lot of weight. But man,

1040
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: I've done some traveling alone for hunting recently, and it

1041
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: would just be a heck of a lot easier on

1042
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: my on my body if I felt was just dragging

1043
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: that one of them, you know, because I end up

1044
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: traveling with two duffels, usually in a gun case and uh,

1045
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: one on the back and then one rolling and then

1046
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: rolling your gun case in the other hand or bow case.

1047
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: I think is uh is the way to be. So

1048
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: I've been using the first light Duffel. UH. What I

1049
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: like about it is it's got these the end pockets.

1050
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: It looks like they just be like a ten liter

1051
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: pocket on the end, but the the sort of inner

1052
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: uh between that pocket and the main compartment, it's huge,

1053
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: and it can expand going into the main compartment. And

1054
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,919
Speaker 1: my buddy Jake turned me on this. Why he loves

1055
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: that back so much is that as he's going through clothes,

1056
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: he basically takes those out. That takes the clean ones

1057
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: out of the main compartment and then starts stuffing dirty

1058
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: clothes into one of the end pockets, and eventually, you know,

1059
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: if all of your clothes got dirty and you put

1060
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: all of them into that end pocket, that endpocket could

1061
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: probably take up nearly almost half of the main compartment,

1062
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. It sort of expands that way,

1063
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: so it's a nice way to keep it separate. And

1064
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: then the other end, I'll just put my boots in

1065
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: there both going there and back, and it just you know,

1066
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: my boots are always dirty, so it just keeps your

1067
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, other stuff separated. One thing that I will mention,

1068
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: I've seen people do it otherwise, and some people will

1069
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: even try to carry on or check their backpack you

1070
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: know that you're gonna hunt with, which can definitely work.

1071
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: But the reason I've gone this route, and basically I

1072
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: just I empty it completely and put it into the

1073
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: bottom of a duffle and then I put my gear

1074
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: in there is I've always heard that if an airline

1075
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: loses your baggage that they're only responsible to like insurance

1076
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: or whatever, is only responsible for the contents and not

1077
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: the bag itself. And so if if you've just checked

1078
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: your nice exo pack, that's you know, five hundred to

1079
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: one thousand bucks. You know, whatever you got into it

1080
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: and then they were having to lose that or damage it.

1081
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: And backpacks have a lot of straps and stuff and

1082
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: just roll down those stuff. Yeah, it's just it just

1083
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: seems like it's better to protect it inside of a Duffel,

1084
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, the Duffel, even though they are one hundred bucks.

1085
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: It's it's it's gonna take the where for for all

1086
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: your other gear. Right, It's gonna get rubbed on by belts.

1087
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: There's gonna be holes eventually, but at least hopefully stuff

1088
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: insides not getting messed with. So that's why my one

1089
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: big tip there about how I pack is I go

1090
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: empty backpack in there and then just pack everything else

1091
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: around it.

1092
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it packs better like that. I've

1093
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: heard some people though, they will like have their backpack

1094
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 2: packed like they're gonna go hunt, and then they'll just

1095
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: put it inside of a Duffel. Yeah, and they're just

1096
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 2: not quite shaped the same. So it just I think

1097
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 2: that in my experience, I've just had like a lot

1098
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 2: of wasted space and it's been hard to get the

1099
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 2: zipper done because the backpacks more circular than like a

1100
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 2: Duffel bag is a little bit more oblong like so

1101
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 2: I think you can just fit a lot more if

1102
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 2: you do the empty backpack like you're talking about. But yeah,

1103
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 2: on this on this trip, of course, it wasn't quite

1104
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 2: as much gear that I had to take, but I

1105
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: did the I did a yetty roller bag, like the

1106
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: big roller bag pretty much fit all my clothes, my

1107
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 2: hunting clothes. And then I had like a little stone

1108
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 2: glacier backpack, the little ones that we got from the

1109
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 2: SIG deal. I just had like my camera and a

1110
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 2: few things in there as my carry on for the plane.

1111
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 2: And then I had my gun case and I want

1112
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 2: to like slide into that. The gun case deal I

1113
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 2: came up with, and I kind of stumbled into it.

1114
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: I didn't really plan for this, but it couldn't worked

1115
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 2: out any better. When I started looking at gun I

1116
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 2: needed to go buy a new like an actual gun

1117
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 2: case for airline travel, kind of an older one I

1118
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 2: had when of the latches broke, and I'm like, eh,

1119
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 2: it's just time to probably get a different one. So

1120
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 2: I got a Pelican and I got a double. The

1121
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 2: double it's called the V eight hundred I think by

1122
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 2: it's the Pelican air and a bunch of people had

1123
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 2: told me like, hey, the seven thirties are great and whatever. Well,

1124
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 2: then I found this eight hundred and just me trying

1125
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 2: to get the most bang for my buck, I'm like, well,

1126
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 2: if I get a double case, then I could put

1127
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 2: more than one gun in it if I need to

1128
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 2: at some point, and YadA, YadA, YadA. So I ordered

1129
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 2: it off Amazon and it gets here and I'm like,

1130
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 2: this things giant, and it's probably it's too much for this.

1131
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 2: So I actually tried to return it, but usually Amazon's

1132
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 2: real good about returns, but this one, it was gonna

1133
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 2: be forty five bucks to ship it back for return

1134
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 2: through ups. So I was like, I guess I have

1135
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 2: a gigantic gun case. So then in Hawaii on like

1136
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 2: if you're around town or whatever, you're supposed to have

1137
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 2: your gun in a soft case. So I'm like, okay,

1138
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 2: I got to figure out how I'm gonna get a

1139
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 2: soft case with me and pack it all in this

1140
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 2: hard case. So the gigantic case came in really handy

1141
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 2: because those foam layers, there's like three foam layers, it

1142
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: might even be four. I took the top to out

1143
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 2: put my gun inside of an FHF gun case in

1144
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 2: the soft case, put the whole thing inside the hard case,

1145
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 2: and then I had quite a bit of width room left,

1146
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 2: so I ended up putting my spotting scope in a

1147
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 2: case itself as well in a soft case, my tripod

1148
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,479
Speaker 2: a little like fix it sticks, a little like gun

1149
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 2: repair kit, my Bino's in their biny case, and then

1150
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 2: like two boxes of ammunition. I put all in that

1151
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 2: one case and it came out at forty eight pounds

1152
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 2: on the scale. Perfect it.

1153
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say, even though you wanted

1154
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: a smaller case, it's nice to have the double even

1155
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: if you're taking only a single rifle, because it's gonna

1156
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: count as a piece of baggage, so you might as

1157
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: well have that piece of baggage be as close to

1158
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: fifty pounds as you can. And there's no way you're

1159
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: gonna do that with a single gun case. So the

1160
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: double is nice for the reasons that you just mentioned.

1161
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: Is you got all the other gear in there. You

1162
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 1: came in forty eight and it allowed you, you know,

1163
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: your other bags to have other things in them you

1164
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: maybe wanted to bring.

1165
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it honestly, it was perfect. I kind of stumbled

1166
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 2: into it, but I'm super glad I did no.

1167
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: Paul Lewis over at FHF. He made that gun case

1168
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: specifically so that it would fit into hard sided cases

1169
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: so that you could do exactly what you did and

1170
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: basically be bringing along two cases in one without really

1171
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: adding a lot to it. Right, because you've got all

1172
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 1: the protection of the foam you need it in the

1173
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: FAHF case, but it's got to be in a hard

1174
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 1: case and locked when you fly, so you can basically

1175
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: just take out the foam drop that in. I've got

1176
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: a very old I don't even know the model of it.

1177
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: It's some old, you know, Pelican gun case. And I

1178
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: did the same thing with mine, just took the bomb

1179
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: out and just, you know, drop the FAHF case in there.

1180
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: Works slick.

1181
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 2: What are you doing for your bow?

1182
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: I believe it's a is it called s KB company SKB.

1183
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: I don't know the model number. It's pretty good. The

1184
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,439
Speaker 1: only thing I wish I could, I mean, it works fine.

1185
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,919
Speaker 1: You can put arrows in the in the in the lid.

1186
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: The foam is kind of worn out a little bit,

1187
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: so some of the arrows will fall out, so I'll

1188
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 1: usually take some gaff tape and after I put my

1189
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: arrows in all gaff, tape over the sections where you know,

1190
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: the little the where the parts are that are actually

1191
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: holding the arrow. And then so it works fine, you

1192
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: strap your bow in there, and again I can put

1193
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: The thing is you got to take off your site,

1194
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: you got to take off your quiver, you got to

1195
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: take off your stabilizer. So all that stuff. I'll take

1196
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: a pair of socks or a hat or gloves and

1197
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: slip all that stuff into there and then drop it

1198
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: into the case and even maybe pack you know, a

1199
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: couple of layers. Just those stuff's not moving and flopping around.

1200
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: I feel like with a bow, I'm way more careful

1201
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: about what's going in there and how stuff's gonna move,

1202
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 1: because the last thing you want is to you know,

1203
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: it seems like it's bow is just more fragile than

1204
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: a rifle, right, So I'm pretty careful about that. I

1205
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 1: will say one thing that I'm sure it gets. It

1206
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: happens every year, and you gotta be suit. Don't do

1207
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: this is your broadheads have to be in a broadhead case.

1208
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 1: Don't have them on your arrows and in that box

1209
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: with your bow and bow strings, because that's just that

1210
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: you're asking for it. Right, one of those arrows with

1211
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: a broadhead is going to get loose, and then it's

1212
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: gonna cut your string or fray your string. Who knows

1213
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: what could happen. But definitely have your broad heads in

1214
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: a separate case. You can have field tips on your

1215
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: on your arrows. But yeah, and it's been a great case.

1216
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: You know, it does the trick. It would just be easier,

1217
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: but again the case might get way too big if

1218
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: you could say, just unscrew the stabilizer and leave your

1219
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: you know, leave your quiver on, leave your side on,

1220
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: drop it in and go.

1221
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, I before our Alaska Caribou trip this last year,

1222
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 2: I was I needed a new bow case again, me

1223
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 2: and my cases. But I felt I apparently was feeling

1224
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 2: pretty fly and I was like, I just want one.

1225
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have it for a long time. So again

1226
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 2: was looking at Pelican cases, and lo and behold, they

1227
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 2: make one that is called d bow case, And so

1228
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 2: I looked at pictures of it and like in the

1229
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 2: inside it, like you put your bow in, you can

1230
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,799
Speaker 2: strap it in and then they have like a padded

1231
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 2: cover that goes over the whole thing and clips in.

1232
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 2: So then it kind of protects that top your bow

1233
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 2: from anything else that you have in the top, and

1234
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 2: then like in the lid, they have the little cutouts

1235
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 2: for arrows you can stick in there. They have a

1236
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 2: couple of little pockets that you could put stuff in.

1237
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 2: I usually just put like extra like repair stuff that

1238
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 2: I may need an extra release, but that that's been

1239
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 2: a pretty nice, pretty nice case. I've only flown once

1240
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 2: with it, but.

1241
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm checking it out, man. That thing looks slick. Yeah,

1242
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 1: it's do you have to take your site off? No

1243
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: you don't.

1244
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 2: That's cool, but you mine doesn't really stick. Mine doesn't

1245
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 2: stick out that far.

1246
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:41,759
Speaker 1: But I'm sure you still had to take your quiver

1247
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: and stabilizer off.

1248
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah. And I just have like for my stabilizers

1249
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 2: getting in the weeds a little, I just have like

1250
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 2: the quick release. It's like you just give it like

1251
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 2: a half a twist backwards and pop it up that

1252
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 2: it's a beastinger, I think, and it just pops the

1253
01:09:55,560 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 2: stabilizer right off. So pretty pretty easy there. But uh,

1254
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 2: I know in our notes here we talked about locks

1255
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 2: a little bit. So I was told before I did

1256
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 2: my sheep hunt a couple of years ago that TSA

1257
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 2: did a change for their gun cases that they didn't

1258
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 2: want you to use t like real TSA locks because

1259
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 2: then all the TSA agents have a key to get

1260
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 2: into it, and they didn't want your gun to be

1261
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 2: that accessible. So they wanted you to use your own

1262
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 2: locks even if you have or and just make sure

1263
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:37,759
Speaker 2: you have the key with you all the time, obviously,

1264
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 2: and if they needed you to open it, they just

1265
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 2: have to call you and you have to go wherever

1266
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 2: they are to open it.

1267
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, I'd better look into that because I just

1268
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 1: I flew recently with shotguns, just in the last month,

1269
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: and they didn't say anything about that. They actually asked me,

1270
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 1: are they TSA locks? And I've always done that So

1271
01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 1: you don't have to stick around waiting because if you

1272
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: don't have TISA locks, if they flag it and they

1273
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: need to get into your case, you gotta be sitting

1274
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 1: around there to either give them the combo or give

1275
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: them the key so they can open it and then

1276
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: get in there. Where when it's when I'm like, no,

1277
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: it's got TSA locks, Like okay, see you at the

1278
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: gates you know later walk away.

1279
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm gonna check into.

1280
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: No, definitely look into that, and it could be a

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Speaker 1: per airline rule too.

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01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's something too on airlines, like you gotta check.

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01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 2: They're all just like a little bit different on airlines too,

1284
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 2: like you gotta check before you go and make sure

1285
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 2: even if bouncing from one airline to the next, especially

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01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 2: if you have to like recheck in. I ran into

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01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 2: that when we went to Hawaii. So we took Alaska

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01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 2: to Honolulu. I had my two boxes of bullets like

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01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 2: in the case, in their original box, but in the case,

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01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:00,080
Speaker 2: and the people here didn't bat and eye at it.

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01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 2: They let me go. And then when we got to

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01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 2: Honolulu and we were jumping over on the flight to

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01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 2: l Ani, they asked me if I had They said

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01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 2: that the bullets had to be out of the case

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01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 2: in a separate bag, checked in a separate bag, so

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01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 2: they wanted them completely in a couple different spots. So

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01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 2: that's something to think about there, and just ammunition in general,

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01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,600
Speaker 2: like it can't be loose. It's supposed to be in

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01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 2: the original boxes, like closed boxes or a hard case

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01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 2: designed for ammunition, like am trying to think.

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01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: What those is probably the most popular, Yeah, box that

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01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 1: you buy.

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01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 2: Those little things and then as a side note, like

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01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 2: black powder or primers. You're not supposed to take those either.

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01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 2: So the powder I would have thought of, I did

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01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,560
Speaker 2: not know the primers.

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01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's a full on explosive, you know. M

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01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: I think if you had them to get they're like

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01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 1: that in the case, then that's what they're worried about.

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01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you added and it can't be over

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01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 2: eleven pounds. I didn't know that.

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01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which eleven pounds of ammo. That's a good bit.

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01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 1: I don't know how much, just I bet you had

1314
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: a twenty round. Of twenty rounds in a box is

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01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 1: probably close to a pound, So it'd be like bringing

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01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: ten or eleven or a dozen boxes, which is probably

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01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: a little more than most folks need. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 1: you made a note to no gas canisters for backpack

1319
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 1: and stoves. You can take an empty white gas canister,

1320
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: which can't take a compressed gas cancer that say, would

1321
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 1: go on to a MSR reactor MSR pocket rocket, you

1322
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 1: know what they call caniser. Stoves can't bring the cancers.

1323
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: If you're gonna if you're gonna use that on your trip,

1324
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 1: you need to get there and then buy yourself.

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01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 2: Plan ahead, Yeah, plan ahead and make sure you can

1326
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 2: buy somewherever you're going.

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01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1328
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 2: Sweet, And then really to wrap it up, like try

1329
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 2: to make sure your bags aren't over fifty pounds, otherwise

1330
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 2: they'll get whacked with an over oversize or an overweight

1331
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,719
Speaker 2: bag fee. So those can add up real quick.

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01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: Oh buddy. Yeah, if you don't have we're lucky again

1333
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 1: where we fly enough where uh you know, you get

1334
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: a certain amount of bags free and they give you

1335
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 1: a little leeway. I think instead of fifty when you

1336
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: have some kind of status with Delta, they give you

1337
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: up to I think it's seventy before it's overweight. But yeah,

1338
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 1: if you're don't fly a lot, no status, Yeah, make

1339
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 1: sure your bags because they it depends on who's working

1340
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,640
Speaker 1: that counter, but if it's at fifty one, they're going

1341
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 1: to make you take something out or they're gonna hitch it.

1342
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: And when they hitch it, it's probably three hundred bucks.

1343
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's it's big time. Like have you ever

1344
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 2: walked into the airport and there's people like disassembling their bags.

1345
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right in front of the thing, trying to

1346
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 2: repack stuff.

1347
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I don't need these shoes anymore.

1348
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 2: T shirts, I could just buy some more when I

1349
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 2: get there.

1350
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially for less for three bucks.

1351
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah sweet?

1352
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, what other thing? I mean we kind of touched

1353
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: on how to pack Bino's or or or just in

1354
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: general optics. Yeah, for traveling? Would you do there? What'd

1355
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 1: you do when you went to Hawaii?

1356
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 2: I had everything in my gun case because that was

1357
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 2: a locked, hard sided case. In previous times, I've always

1358
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: had those in my carry on. I'll just have like

1359
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 2: a little carry on backpack, and I usually put them

1360
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 2: in that backpack just so that's usually your high dollar stuff,

1361
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 2: and they're also heavy, so like it can make your

1362
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: that's a good way to shave some pounds out of

1363
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 2: your bag, as if you just make sure that your

1364
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 2: optics are in your carry on, save some weight that way.

1365
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 2: And then those are high dollar things. It's just nice

1366
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,679
Speaker 2: to have them with you. Makes you feel a little better,

1367
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 2: makes me feel better anyways.

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01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 1: Oh you mean pack them in a carry on?

1369
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, pack optics in a carry on. Yeah.

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01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my recommendation too. Usually I'll go because I

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01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 1: rarely fly with more than one pair of binoculars. I

1372
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: guess maybe on a Coos deer hunt, I might have two,

1373
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: but binos, because I had a pair of binos that

1374
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 1: was packed well, crammed well into a duffel in between

1375
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 1: all kinds of clothes, I thought. And still when I

1376
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 1: brought them out, they'd gotten a ding on one of

1377
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 1: the ocular lenses and I don't know, the lens didn't

1378
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 1: actually break, but the housing around it was bent enough

1379
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: where it sort of pushed a little piece of rubber

1380
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 1: metal sort of into the like it wasn't a perfect

1381
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 1: circle anymore, is what I'm trying to say. And it

1382
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 1: didn't really affect looking through them, but just every time

1383
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: you look down you saw it, and it was just

1384
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: in my head, like, ah man, that was a bummer.

1385
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 1: So yeah, I too, will definitely pack my optics with

1386
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 1: me and my carry on and yeah, baby, but a spotter,

1387
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I just feel like they're

1388
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 1: a little bit tougher. Maybe I don't know, but usually

1389
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: I have a four sections z rest, like a foam

1390
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 1: sitting pad that I'm bringing and I'm gonna be doing

1391
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 1: that kind of glass and that's just big enough to

1392
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 1: burrito roll a spot or into it, and I'll get

1393
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 1: a rubber band or some pea cord and kind of

1394
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 1: tie it up like that and then put it into

1395
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: my duffel where hopefully on the bottom I've got my backpack,

1396
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 1: and then and then work around all the sides with

1397
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 1: all my clothes and make sure there's something on top

1398
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 1: so that it's really dead center and protected from all sides.

1399
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good Uh, that's a good way to

1400
01:17:56,280 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 2: do it. I'm always just like, I don't know, in

1401
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,839
Speaker 2: the past, I've always been so tight at fifty pounds

1402
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 2: for each bag. It's just yeah, it's a it's a

1403
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 2: good way. Like if you know you're gonna be overweight

1404
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 2: on your bags, that's the first thing I would pull

1405
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 2: out is your.

1406
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: Ca Oh yeah, there's nothing heavier answer in your bags

1407
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 1: and your binos and your spot nothing. Yeah, maybe you're AMMO,

1408
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 1: but you can't carry that.

1409
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 2: Yeah you're stuck.

1410
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 1: Don't do that. Do not try to carry AMMO on

1411
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: or try to take it through security. Uh, you're gonna

1412
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 1: have a to end up with a with a chat

1413
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 1: with the cops in the back room.

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01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well, I know we just went through

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01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 2: a lot of info and kind of a lot of

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01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 2: different hitting in a lot of different places. If you

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01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 2: have any questions or comments on this we can answer

1418
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 2: them in future episodes. Just send your questions to gear

1419
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 2: talk at the meeater dot com or with any other

1420
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 2: comments or if you have a request for an episode

1421
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 2: or gear thing to cover, let us know. And yeah,

1422
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 2: also on the website at the meeater dot com, if

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01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 2: you go up to the top you look at podcasts,

1424
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 2: you can see our podcast at gear talk all of

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01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 2: our episodes posts there, as well as like you know, Spotify,

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01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:25,120
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1427
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 2: go to the website, go to our gear talk page

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01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:31,360
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01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,840
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01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 2: specific episode and we'll talk back and forth with you.

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01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:40,480
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Speaker 2: and stay tuned for future episodes and yeah, we'll talk

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