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Speaker 1: There's a lot of stimulus out there. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: to Frank. We're here for you, Frank Salsburg, Pennsylvania, ninety

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Speaker 1: nine Chevy Express. How can I help you? Sir? All right,

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Speaker 1: you're welcome. I'm telling to my seven in smack wheels

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Speaker 1: be young calls for six incenter out. It's craping up

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Speaker 1: my question is I'm just gonna trim like happen, inch

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Speaker 1: You know, Frank. The problem is from my seat here,

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Speaker 1: That's why I want to keep it. Well, why is

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Speaker 1: they're on a national stage. I want to see people

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00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 1: do the right thing without having to do pressure run

430
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: and that's the way it's supposed to work. So you know,

431
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: but UM, try that, you know, see it. Talk to them,

432
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: and you know, then think about a spacer and longer

433
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: studs and you know we'll go from there and then listen,

434
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: worst comes to worst. I would tell you as much

435
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: as you don't want to sell the wheels and find

436
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 1: something else and at least then you'll be safe. Yeah. No, uh,

437
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: you know it sounds like a good idea. Yeah, if

438
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: if you can set it all up point not all right,

439
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 1: you'll have to change the studs, which means you're gonna

440
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: to take the breaks apart. But you know this is

441
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 1: like your hot rod now, So congratulations, you're one of

442
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: the club. All right, Frank, You're very welcome, sir um. Listen.

443
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes the answer to the problem is, you know,

444
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: I often think about, what's that story about the truck

445
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: that was too tall and it went through the overpass

446
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: and it got stuck, and all the engineers showed up.

447
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 1: You don't know this story, Tony, And all the engineers

448
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: showed up, and and the fire department showed up, and

449
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: the cops showed up, and they're all talking about how

450
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna get this truck that's too tall out from

451
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: underneath the overpass. It's wedged under there, and nobody can

452
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: come up with an answer, and they're all talking about

453
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: costs and helicopters and lift this and pull this. And

454
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: a little girl comes along and she looks at it

455
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: and she says to one of the cops, won't you

456
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: just let the air out of the tires, And they

457
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: let there out of the tires and off it comes.

458
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 1: My point is I never forgot that story. I was

459
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: told that story many many years ago, and it taught me,

460
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: you know what, there's always a simpler way, and you

461
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: always got to look for the simple solution in terms

462
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: of solving a problem. So, um, you know, let's just

463
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: get back to basics and fix cars and and think simple,

464
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: because sometimes simple is as simple doesn't simple fixes the day?

465
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: Five zero nine zero zero. I'm running any of the

466
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: car doctor. I'll be back right after this. Welcome back

467
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: right on any of the car Doctor. It's got to

468
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: be a full moon, uh this week coming up because

469
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 1: the calls we're getting today, you're just holy smokes, Mike.

470
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: Let's see how normal you are. East Hartford, Connecticut EIGHTI

471
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:47,239
Speaker 1: Chevy cailing at the moon. Yeah, I'll tell you what. Um,

472
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's it's just like people are crazy today.

473
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: What's going on, kiddo? What can I help? I gotta

474
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. Like, welcome two trucks do

475
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: the Dodge first Dodge and FIFTD four wheel drive. The

476
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 1: front axle seals. They had to replace the hub hub

477
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: about and then the had to take the the shaft out.

478
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: I took the shaft out, put the shaft back in.

479
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: Did the hub, put everything back tilted they it was.

480
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: It was on a jack. It was an hurry stupid jack.

481
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: Let it down. It was on an angle and leaked

482
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: out the front actual seal leaked out of there. It's

483
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: not leaking out of the front meat ball on my

484
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: four wheel drive. It's leaked out from I don't know.

485
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: It's a gasket in there, and I didn't I didn't

486
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: want to know how to take that apart. Put that

487
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: back to stop it from leaking it. This is the

488
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: seal that's down in the belly of the of the

489
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: dif it's down the axle tube, yeah, but not the

490
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: one near the meat ball, the other one. It's all

491
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: the way down inside the tube. Yeah, exactly right either right, yeah, yeah,

492
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: because it was all a one piece to shaft is

493
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: was on the end. I can't take it a damn thing.

494
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Let me let me make let

495
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: me make it easy for you, Mike, send me the

496
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: vin I could describe to you how to do it,

497
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 1: but let me see if I can find you some pictures.

498
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: But I want to try and be as specific as

499
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: that coin well, email it to me because Ron at

500
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: Car Doctor show dot com. And what I'll do is

501
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: I'll go into my Chrysler factory information and see if

502
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: I can find you a decent picture and email it

503
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: back to you. Okay, So, but you know what's what

504
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: what I think? What I think this case is I

505
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: think the seal is is down. You know it's Look

506
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: at the axle stub you pull that. You have to

507
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: pull out the axle stuff through the center of the

508
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: rotor and the hub in order to get it right. Yeah, right, correct,

509
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: And if you if you remember where the axles seal

510
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: is or where the axle when the axle went in

511
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: the shiny clean part is the dividing line where the

512
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: axle the axle seal is here in the shiny clean

513
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: parts this way. In the dirty cruddit part that's exposed

514
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: to atmosphere is that way. So that's how deep into

515
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: the axle tube the seal is. And if if memory

516
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: serves me correct, once you come up with some kind

517
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: of a hook to pop the seal out towards you

518
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: because you're not gonna buy the special Chrysler tool from

519
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. That's probably not available anymore anyway. Then

520
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: you've got to come up with a driver, some kind

521
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: of a seal driver. Two. You know, you have to

522
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: take it back apart, take the seal back out, or

523
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: take the axle back out. Once you get the seal

524
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: out to drive the new ceiling, you're gonna have to

525
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: drive it back in. And if memory serves me correct,

526
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: we we realize that's why God invented long plastic tubing.

527
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: You can buy relatively cheap and pal line it up

528
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: and push it in. Yeah, some type of long, you know,

529
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: a long thick wall piece of pipe. We usually, you know,

530
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: sometimes we did plastics, sometimes we did cast you know,

531
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: black pipe, something like that. But let me let me

532
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: see if I can get you a picture and and

533
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: give yousel and who knows, maybe I can even get

534
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: you the real the tool part numbers. You'll find something

535
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: out on eBay. Um, we can go and go at

536
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: it like that. What's your second question? You got a

537
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: Chevy truck, he said, you got an the show with Yeah,

538
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta plot truckle it's and it's a

539
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: little older than years. I know you got one. This

540
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: is a Chevy K ten four wheel drive automatic and

541
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: the front actual seals have been leaking forever and now

542
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: they're just like to two leaking too much. I gotta

543
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: take you gotta take a whole shaft front actal completely

544
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: out to do those right. Yeah, what years is leaking

545
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: at the meat ball, it's leaking at the other the

546
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: wheel and the Yeah that the tire wheeling right. This

547
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: is an eighty right, I'm yeah, it's an eight. Yeah.

548
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: This was This was real old school technology. You know, hey, listen,

549
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: this is back in the day when repair shops made

550
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: money because people brought in their four wheel drives and

551
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: they said, go through the front differential and I did, Yeah,

552
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: I did. Did the front you know, replace the hubs,

553
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: got the tool, did that and that was a bear,

554
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: but got it done and then drove it a couple

555
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: of thousand miles and then now the acts the oils

556
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: are leaking out of there. Right, So now you gotta

557
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: ask yourself, did you put the seals in square? Did you?

558
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure you never did the seals? We did? Okay?

559
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: Did the hub? You know? When you those are the kind.

560
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: You gotta get out, put a new toraol in right,

561
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: take manually, take it and turn the thing. And now

562
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: you gotta take it apart again because now you're gonna

563
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: do the seals. Yeah, I mean how how you gotta

564
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: take the whole shaft completely right right back to square one?

565
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: Can you guide me through that? Yeah? You know what?

566
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: Send me then send me the description on that. I'll

567
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: see if you can find some pictures on that too.

568
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: You're you're you're gonna be in it for a while, kiddo.

569
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: So you're you're gonna be the old truck mechanic. Yeah,

570
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: that's what I like. But some you know, so your

571
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: help send me, send me your make model. I'll see

572
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: if I can find you some technical I actually think

573
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: I have the eight factory shop manual on the case series. Alright,

574
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: I'll see what I can find and get some pictures

575
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: out to you. Alright, alright, kid, same same same email address.

576
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: You having yourself a good rest of the day. Don't

577
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: worry about it. We'll figure it out, alright. Man zero

578
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: nine zero zero Ron eating the car doctor back right

579
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: after this, Welcome back. We're needing the car doctor. You know,

580
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: we've now brought you to that portion of the show

581
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: where it's the Frank and Ron Show. And Uh, I

582
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: think I'm I think I'm grooming this next caller for

583
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: the when I when I decide to go on vacation.

584
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna make it. Frank the car doctor, Frank, how

585
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: are things up in Congress, New York? Alright? What's going on?

586
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: Don't do it? Do and do it. I just want

587
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: to get shout out. I think, want to let you

588
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: know that I left. I'm still around here in Rocky County. Fireman,

589
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: we can here. You know. It's nice, beautiful weather, right indeed,

590
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: something I guess they called full moon. Now, well, true enough,

591
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna be cold. So what are we gonna do?

592
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: Maybe we need a battery, Maybe we need some basic

593
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: things done to the car. Now it's the time to

594
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: do it, rather than wait until it gets really called. Uh.

595
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, Frank, My biggest fear with

596
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: technology or kidding around the side, is that the technology

597
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: of the car is gonna lull everybody into a false

598
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: sense of security and they're going to do less and

599
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: then get caught short. And you're you're gonna expect that

600
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: light to come on because it's gotta get to point

601
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: where dates now the like some time when you when

602
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: you're low on air pressure and you tire well, what

603
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna wait till that time on the side of road? Yeah,

604
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: and okay with you know, Frank, you you hit an

605
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: interesting point. I was going to talk about this next week.

606
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: I'll touch on it here in that extended oil change

607
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: intervals are creating a problem. And here's how you got

608
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: your oil changed in July. Was it hot in July?

609
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 1: It was hot in July, right, was derees in July,

610
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 1: and you had your tire pressure right now, You're gonna

611
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: go five six months before your next oil change. So

612
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: your next oil change is gonna be November December. But

613
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: the weather's already started to cool down in most of

614
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,959
Speaker 1: the country. And that hundred degrees that you were in July,

615
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: most people still most people don't check tire pressure once

616
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: a month anyway. But now we're into October, and now

617
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: we went from a hundred degrees down to it was

618
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: sixty four degrees at the house this morning. So all

619
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: of a sudden, that's time one morning, the right that

620
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: tire that had air put it in a hundred if

621
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: you haven't touched it since then, that tires lost four

622
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: pounds just just from temperature change, never mind from porosity

623
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 1: or small leaks. So you know, the the extended oil

624
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: drain interval. Great technology. I mean that we've got better

625
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: oil out there and the cars don't beat up oil

626
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: as much as they used to. But they've created a need,

627
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: just plain and simple, where we've got to be a

628
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: little more diligent and maintenance and check tires. You still

629
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: have to check tire pressure on a regular basis once

630
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: a month is a good rule of thumb, just to

631
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: be sure you're safe. Just make sure you're safe, and

632
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: also to travel. And then again, I know, I mean

633
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: it's it's sorry to see you know. I mean, look

634
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: at Carolina and stuff. You get dead weather or something

635
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: like that, and you're in the midst of doing something

636
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: evacuating or whatever like that, and all of a sudden

637
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: you're badly SA not doing well. No, Frank, you're you're assuming,

638
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: You're assuming. But wait till the last minute. I've been

639
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: in supermarkets just before that's right. Yeah, I do go

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Speaker 1: bread is out the door because everybody's assuming the worst. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right, we're not prepared. Hey, Frank, what did you Frank?

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Speaker 1: Are you retired? Frank? Are you retired? Frank, Frank, are

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Speaker 1: you retired? Not yet? Well, listen, when you retire, you

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Speaker 1: come see us. We're gonna groop me. We're gonna make

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Speaker 1: you the number two men here on the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: You're just a lot of fun to talk to. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate all the comments, Frank, I gotta go to the

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Speaker 1: clock's gonna grab me and I'm up against it. Um

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Speaker 1: So what we thank you as we always do and

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Speaker 1: appreciate hearing from you. Well, boy, that wraps up another

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Speaker 1: two hours of Car Doctor, Like holy, can I get

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Speaker 1: the thumbs up from Tony Go Giants, Go Jets, Go,

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Speaker 1: Mets up. Sorry too late for them. I'm running any

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Speaker 1: see you still second Dow