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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio hour two on this Friday.

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Speaker 2: It's a meat Friday at that and yes, there will

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Speaker 2: be another pea bomb coming up. Pauli week in and

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Speaker 2: week out shocking the college football world with upsets. Here,

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Speaker 2: what will it be today? You'll have to wait and see.

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Speaker 2: It's a meat Friday, smash burgers, pigs in a blanket,

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Speaker 2: fries and I think there's an apple pie out there too.

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Speaker 3: Who has it better than we do?

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Speaker 4: No body.

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Speaker 2: Start of the Day brought to you by Penni America,

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Speaker 2: the official Trading Cards. The Dan Patrick Show Pole question

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Speaker 2: for hour two is going to be once Seaton O'Connor.

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Speaker 3: We got many up there for our one, Dan, why

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Speaker 3: don't we run down those results? A bigger game this

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Speaker 3: weekend for the Cowboys or the Lions. Right now, seventy

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Speaker 3: three percent say the Cowboys. This is interesting to me.

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Speaker 3: Biggest win last night Guardians, Lynx, Niners, Yankees. Right now

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Speaker 3: the Guardians have about thirty six percent of that, followed

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Speaker 3: by the Yankees Niners in the links not really getting

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Speaker 3: a ton of love there. And then it is advancing

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Speaker 3: from the Alds to the Alcs champagne worthy right now.

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Speaker 3: Sixty six percent say no. That means thirty three percent

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Speaker 3: say yes, actually wants thirty four percent.

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Speaker 2: I'm in that thirty four percent. Yeah, I'm okay with celebrating.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to celebrate. I don't I don't want

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Speaker 2: to celebrate like we won the World Series.

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Speaker 3: Should we cut down the nets after the first round

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Speaker 3: of the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 2: Well, they would discourage that because there are other games than.

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Speaker 3: They probably not. Probably not.

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Speaker 2: Wait, why are we playing with the Rims that don't

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Speaker 2: have nets on advancing out of Dayton gets Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: first four. Well you cut down the nets after you win, yes, Paul.

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Speaker 5: Actually, they do cut down the nets at different stages

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Speaker 5: of the NCAA tournament. You don't see it on TV,

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Speaker 5: but if you attend like a sweet.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen game, well, regional final.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So that's similar to this stage of the baseball playoffs,

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Speaker 5: like if you get if you advanced to the Sweet sixteen,

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Speaker 5: you win your first two, I've seen teams cut them down,

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Speaker 5: but there's no one around to televise it.

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Speaker 3: But then after the Sweet sixteen you have the Elite

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Speaker 3: eight of the final four, you have the thing Okay,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that. I don't know. Why are you

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Speaker 3: a buzzkill? Though? What's wrong with celebrating? There's nothing wrong

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Speaker 3: with celebrating, having some fun appropriate things to celebrate.

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Speaker 2: All right, Okay, who is against champagne dreams after winning

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Speaker 2: the divisional Series?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Everybody on the other side.

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Speaker 4: There's different types of celebration.

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Speaker 6: I think the champagne part of it that's more for

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Speaker 6: we won the pennant than go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, when I see the goggles, then maybe that's a

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Speaker 2: step too far. Yes, okay, that was last night, but

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Speaker 2: they were still celebrating with champagne. Not everybody had goggles on.

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Speaker 2: But I would like to tamp that down a little bit.

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Speaker 2: No goggles then I'd be fine with that. But it's

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Speaker 2: like us, We're never going to win a Sports Emmy,

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Speaker 2: So I say, why not celebrate the nomination? And then

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Speaker 2: you guys don't want to celebrate the nomination, And I said,

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Speaker 2: why don't we just get champagne and spray it all

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Speaker 2: over one another? And we did that one time. I

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Speaker 2: think we had champagne when we lost the Sports Emmy.

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Speaker 3: Well, we didn't win the Sports Emmy.

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Speaker 2: You don't lose if you're in the you know, in

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Speaker 2: the running for a Sports Emmy. But we should celebrate

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Speaker 2: all of those years we got nominated. We never celebrated,

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Speaker 2: did we? Oh?

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Speaker 5: No, I could remember the first one we got nominated.

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Speaker 5: I think I think we're in Houston and we heard

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Speaker 5: about it in the midday after the show and we

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Speaker 5: all went out to a dinner. And remember that rainstorm

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Speaker 5: that hit in the middle of our dinner when we

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Speaker 5: were sitting outside in Houston and we were with all

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Speaker 5: our DIRECTORV crew. We were celebrating that night. Okay, that

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Speaker 5: was our first nomination. Okay, and there was a big rainstorm.

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Speaker 2: But we haven't celebrated since. No, Yes, Tod, I don't.

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Speaker 6: Want to be a downer, but I guess you kind

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Speaker 6: of do lose the Sports Emmy or anything. Where as

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Speaker 6: a winner, everyone else would be a loser. You could

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Speaker 6: be a nominee for an Academy Award, but ultimately one

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Speaker 6: box has the person smiling and the rest of them,

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Speaker 6: you know, pretend to clap for them and act like

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Speaker 6: they're happy that somebody won. If you have a winner,

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Speaker 6: then there's got to be a loser.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we win by being nominated.

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Speaker 4: That's a healthy attitude.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and that's the way you should look at it.

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Speaker 2: Took ye.

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Speaker 3: Now you know what the problem is is that people

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Speaker 3: are like, well, you guys got like a dozen already anyway,

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Speaker 3: I know, Like, no, we don't. We don't have any.

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Speaker 3: You've never won any like, No, that's why I want

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Speaker 3: to win one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not going to.

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Speaker 3: We had a run of like I don't know, five

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Speaker 3: years or so where we probably should have gotten one. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and then we didn't get it. In that win though,

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Speaker 3: I don't think we're winning it. I think Pete are either.

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Speaker 2: Pete Rose has a better chance getting into the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame than we do winning a Sports Emmy.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's a statement.

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Speaker 1: RG.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what happens first we win a Sports Emmy or

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Speaker 2: Pete gets on the ballot.

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Speaker 3: For the Hall of Fame. I think Pete's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because the novelty of this show is over. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know they're like, oh, look at that. They're going

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Speaker 2: up against Sports Center, Baseball tonight and like all these

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Speaker 2: big shows, College Game Day and they go where can

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Speaker 2: you hear that? Or I didn't know he was still

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Speaker 2: doing broadcasting. He's still doing a show. How old is he?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Tom?

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Speaker 4: What about that twenty twenty seven Lifetime Achievement kind of.

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Speaker 3: I don't want one of those.

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Speaker 2: Months before you get it, I will not accept well

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Speaker 2: accept No, I don't want a lifetime Achievement award.

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Speaker 4: I don't call it that.

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Speaker 6: You just all of a sudden, we happen to win

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Speaker 6: the Sports Time in twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: I don't want it. I don't.

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Speaker 6: You'll think it's because if we won, that it's because

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Speaker 6: you're leaving seven months later.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and I don't want it.

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Speaker 2: I'm just letting the academy know I don't want that,

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Speaker 2: not that they were going to give it to me.

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Speaker 2: But we win. If I win, we win. When we win,

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Speaker 2: I win.

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Speaker 3: It'd be cool though if like if like like we

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Speaker 3: look we all won. But it'd be cool if there

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Speaker 2: There'd be nothing better than if the show won with

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Speaker 2: all the I mean, we only have twelve people in

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: That's you got twelve people at ESPN who you know

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Speaker 2: work in the cafeteria, the checkout line. I mean, we

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Speaker 2: don't have many people. And that's why I would take great,

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Speaker 2: great pride in that that we as a group we

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Speaker 2: took on the giants and we won.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of times where it's like, hey,

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Speaker 3: Dan Patrick won this, and it's like, oh, yeah, you

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Speaker 2: That's kind of how it is.

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Speaker 3: No, no, but it would be awesome if the Dan Patrick

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Speaker 3: Show and everyone under that Animal Kingdom umbrella also is included.

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Speaker 3: I agree, yes, Paul.

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Speaker 5: So this show ends in three years and four months,

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Speaker 5: that will be eligible for the next Emmy, the one

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Speaker 5: three months after that. They could nominate us or not nominated.

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Speaker 5: If we get nominated and go, we wear goggles and

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Speaker 5: bring champagne to that last Emmy Awards. Goggles and champagne,

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Speaker 5: all right, because it would be a great bit whether

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Speaker 5: we won or lost.

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Speaker 2: We see, we'd make a mess up there.

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Speaker 5: And then we're gone, we're out.

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Speaker 2: You'd have Melissa Stark out there handing out an award

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Speaker 2: and maybe she'd you know, slip on the champagne. Don't

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Speaker 2: want that, No, we don't want that. Don't want anything

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Speaker 2: happening there. Ernie Johnson wins another one. He comes out

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Speaker 5: Puddles, maybe as a presenter if.

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Speaker 3: He slipped, that would be okay.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, bonus coverage.

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Speaker 3: Did you see jose Canseco tweeted, he hates a RB.

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Speaker 3: It's like, I hope everyone in Florida except one person

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Speaker 3: is okay. Wow. If we did.

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Speaker 5: A poll question more likable Knseko or a Rod, I think.

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Speaker 3: It might be tight. I'm gonna take Kenseko.

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Speaker 5: I think he's winning the poll because.

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Speaker 2: He's not in the spotlight. It's just all right. That

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Speaker 2: guy's wild. He hates a rob. I hope everybody's okay

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Speaker 2: in Florida except for one guy.

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Speaker 3: Dang, that's good. That's good.

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Speaker 2: Alrighty, welcome already in progress here, good morning. If you're

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Speaker 2: watching on Peacock and our radio affiliates around the country.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we can top what we did

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Speaker 2: in the first hour because we touched on a lot

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Speaker 2: of things, including Fritzie's physique is similar to a bullfrog,

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Speaker 2: and a bullfrog is an animal. And Todd had a

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Speaker 2: long night last night.

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Speaker 4: Significant dinner, yes, very heavy dinner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But at no point did you go, you know what,

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Speaker 2: maybe I don't need to have all of this for

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Speaker 2: my birthday.

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Speaker 4: I didn't really think about that.

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Speaker 6: It was dessert time when when she said, would you

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Speaker 6: like to see a dessert menu? And I immediately say, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I'll take a look and take a peek and see

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Speaker 6: what you.

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Speaker 3: Got after you'd had steak mac and cheese.

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Speaker 6: Lapto mac and cheese calamario, at least three rolls with

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Speaker 6: like a little pumpkin butter kind of thing on it,

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Speaker 6: and uh a big baked potato with all the fixens.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna go, carrot cake.

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Speaker 2: I think, oh my gosh, vegetables and yeah, all the

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Speaker 2: food groups that Todd loves.

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Speaker 4: Cake and I got a three in the morning wick.

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Speaker 2: Up, Yeah, Todd things, carrot cake is vegetables.

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Speaker 4: I did kind of count that as like something that's

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Speaker 4: of course somewhat course got the word carroten winner, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, thank you, Tom. I just feel like the healthier

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Speaker 3: of the cakes, got it. Man. I've fallen to that too,

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Speaker 3: where I'm like, it's not that bad.

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Speaker 6: Because one said molten lava cake, one said brownie cookie thing,

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Speaker 6: and they said carrot cake.

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Speaker 4: All right, that's not bad.

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Speaker 3: Let's be responsible. We'll have some carrot cake.

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Speaker 6: You're not going to get the fruit platter or whatever

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Speaker 6: that thing, if they give your cantle open to whatever

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Speaker 6: coming up.

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Speaker 2: Mike Floria from Pro Football Talk will join us and

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Speaker 2: the Most must Win Game of the Weekend or the

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Speaker 2: mm W g O t W, speaking of which Tom

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Speaker 8: DP, you got two quick things. So my most must

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Speaker 3: But they're not going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: The question is when you throw Drake May in like it,

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Speaker 3: Let me see Dan in Virginia. Hi, Dan, what's on

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Speaker 7: Dan Colin to talk about the origins of the pea

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Speaker 7: bomb word? Okay, when I was in high school, I

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Speaker 3: Oh the great good old days.

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Speaker 5: Statue limitation.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knew I was in the portal. Todd was in

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Speaker 4: I was several times that.

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Speaker 5: By the way, if there's one piece of a life

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Speaker 3: Schedule and you but.

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Speaker 2: Man, eyes up, yep, eyes up, And just.

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Speaker 5: If you're looking for where to do your stuff, just

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Speaker 3: M Yes, Tom.

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Speaker 3: Fritzy.

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Speaker 3: Yes see. I told you guys this one time. I

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Speaker 2: I was at a sporting event. I'm not going to

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Speaker 5: Last show.

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Speaker 3: We're going to guess it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, I mean, and I'm not. I'm not even

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Speaker 3: But US Open. No, you were watching a tennis match. Oh,

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Speaker 2: The most must win game of the weekend is which

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Speaker 9: Well, I would have said last night's game. The forty

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Speaker 9: fall to five losses, and Dan, I don't know that

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Speaker 2: What teams do you feel great about? Here we are

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Speaker 9: No? No, because the teams that I think are the

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Speaker 9: And oh, I guess I feel good about the Chiefs

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Speaker 9: So I guess the Chiefs just because they're so damn resilient,

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Speaker 9: Probably just because somebody's gonna lose these games, and if

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Speaker 2: Well, I said at the start of the year, Robert

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Speaker 9: have the freedom to change plays if he wants who

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Speaker 9: He cites his extensive experience, and there's an argument to

442
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Speaker 9: be made that at some point you got to defer

443
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Speaker 9: to what this guy has seen, what this guy has done.

444
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Speaker 9: I don't know how much better it's going to be.

445
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Speaker 9: I don't know how much philosophically it's going to change.

446
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Speaker 9: I don't know how well Aaron Rodgers and Todd Downing

447
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Speaker 9: get along or don't get along. All I know is

448
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Speaker 9: Aaron Rodgers isn't the guy that he was a few

449
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Speaker 9: years ago. He looked disinterested at times in the first

450
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Speaker 9: half on Sunday. Rodney Harrison's interpretation is that's how a

451
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Speaker 9: guy looks when he can no longer do what he

452
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Speaker 9: used to do and he's coming to terms with it. Now.

453
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Speaker 9: The arm is still there, but the legs go first.

454
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Speaker 9: And if you're Tom Brady and the legs never mattered anyway,

455
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Speaker 9: you go into you're forty five, if you're Aaron Rodgers

456
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Speaker 9: and you made your living by getting out of trouble,

457
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Speaker 9: and all of a sudden you can't. I think that's

458
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Speaker 9: where we see that frustration starting to come out.

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Speaker 2: And I have mentioned this, this isn't an attractive job.

460
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Speaker 2: And I know we love to throw out Mike Rabel

461
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Speaker 2: and Bill Belichick. I would run from this opportunity, not

462
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Speaker 2: to absolutely because and I never thought I would say this.

463
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Speaker 2: The reason why it's one of the reasons why it's

464
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Speaker 2: not attractive is because of Aaron Rodgers. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how long he stays, and I would take over that

466
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Speaker 2: job if Aaron Rodgers decided to retire, then it becomes

467
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Speaker 2: a little more attractive. You got a really good defense,

468
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Speaker 2: you got some younger offensive players, you still have that

469
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Speaker 2: ownership there. I don't know what you do at the GM,

470
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Speaker 2: but Belichick's not going there. Is Rabel going to go there?

471
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Speaker 2: Or Ben Johnson or the Lion's gonna go there? I

472
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Speaker 2: just doesn't It doesn't feel attractive.

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Speaker 9: We talked about this earlier in the week on PFT Live.

474
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Speaker 9: I'm a firm believer that anyone who has options is

475
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Speaker 9: not going to want to go there. I don't think

476
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Speaker 9: Rogers will be back if they don't make the playoffs,

477
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Speaker 9: and even if they do, I'm not sure he's going

478
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Speaker 9: to want to put himself through it again with or

479
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Speaker 9: without Rogers. Though the owner is the one constant is

480
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Speaker 9: Jed York of the forty nine Ers said seven or

481
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Speaker 9: eight years ago, you can't fire the owner, and the

482
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Speaker 9: thread for the Jets and Jets fans get mad about

483
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Speaker 9: this because there's nothing they can do about it. They're

484
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Speaker 9: stuck with Woody Johnson until he sells the team or

485
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Speaker 9: otherwise naturally ends his tenure as the owner of the team.

486
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Speaker 9: So you can't do anything about it. You can't deprive

487
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Speaker 9: yourself the thing you love. The only way to force

488
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Speaker 9: a guy to sell would be to boycott. So thoroughly

489
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Speaker 9: there losing money, and the only thing we can do

490
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Speaker 9: is sell the team. That's ever going to happen. People

491
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Speaker 9: love the Jets, they want to go to the games,

492
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Speaker 9: they want to follow the team. So I look at

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Speaker 9: a guy like Steve Spagnolo, who might not have an

494
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Speaker 9: option anywhere else, bring him back to New York. He

495
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Speaker 9: was great with the Giants. We've been saying he deserves

496
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Speaker 9: another opportunity. If no one else is going to give

497
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Speaker 9: it to him, why not get it with the Jets?

498
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Speaker 9: Or like a Ryan Grubb, you know Dave Canalis last year,

499
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Speaker 9: one year's offensive coordinator the Panthers, or Bucks goes to

500
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Speaker 9: the Panthers. Who else was taking the Panthers job? Ryan Grubb,

501
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Speaker 9: great job with Gino Smith goes to the Jets, because

502
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Speaker 9: who else is going to take the Jets job.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live co host,

504
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Speaker 2: I saw where you were mixing it up a little

505
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Speaker 2: bit with the New York media in their coverage of

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. What were you bothered about by how they

507
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Speaker 2: were covering Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 9: Well, I wasn't mixing it up with them. They chose

509
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Speaker 9: to mix it up with me rather than address it

510
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Speaker 9: on the merits with on ad Hominem attacks and other things.

511
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Speaker 9: And I don't care about that anymore. I'm too old

512
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Speaker 9: and I met the I call it the NFG phase

513
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 9: of my career. No f's given where it's not worth it.

514
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Speaker 9: Life's too short to get into these stupid fights. Dan,

515
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Speaker 9: I've learned a lot from working with you and listening

516
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Speaker 9: to you and watching you over the years. You're one

517
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Speaker 9: of the best interviewers ever. You know how to ask

518
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Speaker 9: questions in a way that doesn't piss people off, but

519
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 9: it gets to the heart of the matter. And I

520
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 9: was just disappointed yesterday by the press conference of Aaron Rodgers.

521
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Speaker 9: All that had to be asked if Aaron Rodgers, with

522
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Speaker 9: one very simple question seven words, did Robert Sola deserve

523
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Speaker 9: to be fired? The answer to that would have been

524
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Speaker 9: incredibly revealing, because so much time has been spent this

525
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Speaker 9: week with Rogers kind of puffing his chest out. I

526
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Speaker 9: resent any suggestion that I caused this, Okay, fine, but

527
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Speaker 9: you could have stopped it. You could have prevented it.

528
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Speaker 9: And I think that's what we need to drill down on.

529
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Speaker 9: Did you have a chance to prevent it? And if

530
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Speaker 9: you didn't, man, that's a hell of a story too.

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Speaker 9: So that's what bothered me. It was a golden opportunity

532
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Speaker 9: to ask him questions, not belligerent, not rifled with animosity,

533
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Speaker 9: just simple questions like you do that get right to

534
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Speaker 9: the heart of the matter. And they whift. They just whiffed.

535
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Speaker 9: And if they're mad about it, show some of that

536
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Speaker 9: to Aaron Rodgers. Don't direct it at me. Redirect it

537
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Speaker 9: back to Rodgers the next time you can ask him questions.

538
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Speaker 2: Is there a franchise in worse shape than Cleveland?

539
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Speaker 9: No, because they are not stuck with a contract it

540
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Speaker 9: requires ninety two million dollars to be paid in twenty

541
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Speaker 9: twenty five and twenty twenty six combined. The Browns are

542
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Speaker 9: in one of the worst situations of the salary cap era,

543
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Speaker 9: and it's clearly the worst trade and sign that we've

544
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Speaker 9: seen in the salary cap era. You can say the

545
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Speaker 9: herschel Walker trade was worse, but this is a combination

546
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Speaker 9: of three first round picks, three other picks, and two

547
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Speaker 9: hundred and thirty million fully guaranteed for a guy that

548
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Speaker 9: was facing a suspension and a guy who hadn't played

549
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Speaker 9: at all in twenty twenty one. And now here we

550
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Speaker 9: are in the third year. They're not getting a return

551
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 9: and they're in a damn thing they can do. They

552
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Speaker 9: have to pay him, they don't have to play him.

553
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Speaker 9: And at this point, Dan, I would trade off assets.

554
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Speaker 9: I would get extra draft picks, I would bench him,

555
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Speaker 9: and I would go young because the young guys are

556
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Speaker 9: cheap enough. You can carry the ninety two million and

557
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Speaker 9: pay that money and fill out your roster with young,

558
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Speaker 9: cheap players. That's what I would do if I was

559
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Speaker 9: the Browns and you.

560
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Speaker 2: Look back on this trade and you would have thought that,

561
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Speaker 2: you know, the Texans would have been saying, hey, please

562
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Speaker 2: take him. We'll give you this and this and this.

563
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Speaker 2: They got draft picks, they got first round picks. This

564
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Speaker 2: guy was damaged goods, and that's they didn't get a bargain.

565
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Speaker 2: This is where you get a bargain. You go, hey,

566
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Speaker 2: let's take a chance on this guy. You know, he's

567
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Speaker 2: got a shady past here, Bud, he's shown glimpses. You know, hey,

568
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Speaker 2: well we'll take him off your hands. You got to

569
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Speaker 2: pay part of his salary. You got to throw in

570
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Speaker 2: a draft pick or two, like that's what you would think.

571
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Speaker 2: But the fact that the Browns gave him a deal

572
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Speaker 2: he couldn't refuse and gave them those draft picks and

573
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Speaker 2: they that's helped the Texans become a playoff team.

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Speaker 9: Amazing, amazing, moved by Nick Cassero, the gym of the team, Dan,

575
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Speaker 9: I remember when it was happening. The Texans created a competition,

576
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 9: even though it was March, months away from an actual game,

577
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Speaker 9: they were able to set up a four team basically

578
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 9: chase for Deshaun Watson. And in the offseason that's when

579
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Speaker 9: teams try to spend or otherwise maneuver their way to relevance.

580
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Speaker 9: And so you had the Saints, the Panthers, the Falcons,

581
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Speaker 9: and the Browns. And the Browns were the first team

582
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Speaker 9: that got tapped on the shoulder at the dance contest.

583
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Speaker 9: And what did they do? What did they do? They said,

584
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Speaker 9: let's make this guy an offer he can't refuse and boom,

585
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 9: there it was. And the other thing Casceo did it

586
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 9: was brilliant Dan, You basically got preapproved for the loan.

587
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 9: You couldn't even talk to Watson unless you put on

588
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Speaker 9: the table a trade package the casser would have accepted.

589
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 9: And it was great, it was brilliant. Four teams show up,

590
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 9: Browns get thrown overboard, Browns come back with this ridiculous offer,

591
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Speaker 9: and now they're stuck with the aftermath of it.

592
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Speaker 3: Unbelievable.

593
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: All quiet on the two afront any updates.

594
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Speaker 9: Well, everything's pointing toward him coming back week eight, when

595
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 9: he's able to return from injured reserve. What we saw

596
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 9: this week with Josh Allen, I think brings into focus

597
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 9: the balance between the boxes that are checked to put

598
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 9: a player back on the field after an actual or

599
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Speaker 9: suspected head injury brain injury to be more accurate, and

600
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Speaker 9: healthcare an endgame when somebody's possibly suffered a brain injury.

601
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Speaker 9: I think a lot of times we see that urgency

602
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Speaker 9: to check the boxes and get the guy back on

603
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Speaker 9: the field rather than engaging in actual healthcare. And I

604
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 9: say that because with the urgency that we're feeling now

605
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 9: with the Dolphins all they need toolback so badly, everything's

606
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 9: pointing that direction. He's on the sidelines for the games.

607
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 9: I thought we would have the conversation after the season

608
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Speaker 9: as to whether or not he'd continue. I don't know

609
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Speaker 9: if it's in his best interest to jump back into it,

610
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 9: because this wasn't some fluke injury. This is like in

611
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Speaker 9: the top three of the things that can happen to

612
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Speaker 9: a quarterback. This isn't what happened to Tamorrow Hamlin one

613
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Speaker 9: in a billion. This is something that happens all the time,

614
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Speaker 9: and it's happened repeatedly to Tuam with the fencing posture

615
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Speaker 9: on top of it. I'm very concerned about Tua. I

616
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Speaker 9: know it's his right, it's his right, the right to life.

617
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 9: Liberty in the pursuit of happiness includes the right to

618
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 9: screw up your life if you choose to do so,

619
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Speaker 9: and people take far greater risks for far less money.

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Speaker 9: I'm just concerned about him. If he was my son,

621
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Speaker 9: my brother, my cousin, I'd be I wouldn't be able

622
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Speaker 9: to watch a game. I wouldn't be able to function

623
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Speaker 9: for those three hours worrying about him having another brain injury.

624
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Speaker 2: The Josh Allen situation, the optics were terrible. I mean,

625
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Speaker 2: I now he I think set his ankle I mean,

626
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if he grabbed his ankle,

627
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: but it's like Tua had another concussion where he said

628
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: it was his back.

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Speaker 3: They're going to find the nature of it.

630
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Speaker 9: That's the thing. These guys want to play willing. Joe

631
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 9: Burrow said after the two stuff was going on a

632
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 9: couple of years ago. This is what we signed up for.

633
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 9: That's why it's all the more important. If you're going

634
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 9: to create this many little healthcare apparatus that assesses a

635
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 9: guy for a concussion during a game, it can't be

636
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 9: you know, the urgency that we saw last Thursday night,

637
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 9: when the Falcons are rushing to the line of scrimmage

638
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 9: and spiking the ball and the officials are helping, it's like,

639
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 9: we got to check them. We got to get the

640
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 9: guy back in and see the league. Even though the

641
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 9: doctor that makes the final call is unaffiliated from the team,

642
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 9: the league wants the best players on the field. When

643
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 9: Derek Carr left on Monday night, Jake Haner came in

644
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 9: just turn off the damn game. If Mitch Rubisky had

645
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 9: stayed in on Sunday and Allen had been ruled out,

646
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 9: turn off the damn game. The league doesn't want that,

647
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 9: so they've got Even though the doctors are disconnected from

648
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 9: the team, there's still a conflict of interest there where

649
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 9: we want these guys on the field and they want

650
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 9: to go on the field. That's the problem. Who's the

651
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 9: voice of reason that says, hang on, hang on, you

652
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 9: shouldn't go out and we're not letting you go out

653
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 9: on the field.

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Speaker 2: But do you see these guardians helmets actually being mandatory.

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Speaker 9: Well, the NFL says that the guardian cap is less

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Speaker 9: effective than the position specific helmets that they've now developed.

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Speaker 9: I responded to that by saying, well, if you put

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Speaker 9: a guardian cap on those helmets, they would be even safer.

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Speaker 9: I think the NFL is very concerned about the aesthetics

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Speaker 9: because it's such a visual sport. TV is what made

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Speaker 9: football what it is, and when you see a guy,

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Speaker 9: it looks like a lumpy beanbag chair that needs to

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Speaker 9: be you know, like re sculpted. There was a guy

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Speaker 9: last night and it stands out got for the forty

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Speaker 9: to keep improving the helmet technology so it gets to

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Speaker 9: the point where guardian caps are irrelevant. But at the

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Speaker 9: same time, no matter how good that helmet is, if

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Speaker 9: you put a guardian cap on it, it's going to

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Speaker 9: be even safer.

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Speaker 2: Have a great weekend, Mike. Thanks for joining Pro Football

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Speaker 2: Talk Live, co host and contributor to Football Night in America.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, the mm W g O t

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Speaker 2: W and Dylan stops by with some gambling advice.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: Alright, let's run down the list of great games this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Commanders at the Ravens Markey game, Yes, it is big time.

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Speaker 2: This is where we find out are the Commanders really

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Speaker 2: the Commanders? Lions at the Cowboys O Markey game? How

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Speaker 2: about that? Of course, we remember last year came down

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Speaker 2: to the wire. Remember it came down to this, the

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Speaker 2: Dan Skipper not reporting as eligible.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the Dan Skipper not reporting his eligible.

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Speaker 5: Game, the jersey wipe thing, Dan Skipper, but he.

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Speaker 3: Went over to the officials and they kind of did it,

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Speaker 3: but then didn't and then he wasn't. Yes, that was

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Speaker 3: a big deal.

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Speaker 2: This game features the largest over undertotal of the weekend

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Speaker 2: at fifty two and a half. College football, Ohio State

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Speaker 2: at Oregon Massive. Yeah Yeah. Ducks have reeled off wins

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Speaker 2: over Michigan State, Oregon State, and UCLA. This will be

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Speaker 2: This will be as talented as any team they will

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Speaker 2: face this year. And of course Jeremiah Smith the star

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Speaker 2: wide receiver for the buck Geys. Texas at Oklahoma. It's

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Speaker 2: the Red River rivalry. Texas has won all five of

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Speaker 2: its game so far and they have blown everybody out.

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Speaker 2: Quinn Yours he has not played since the second week

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Speaker 2: in September. They didn't miss him with arch Manning in there.

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Speaker 2: And then you have the Tigers at the Guardians. That'll

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Speaker 2: be carry Scouble will be on the mound, the cy

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Speaker 2: young winner in the American League, and he's as the

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Speaker 2: kids like to say, he's filthy. He has some great

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Speaker 2: stuff there. You also have the Podres and the Dodgers

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Speaker 2: coming up tonight. So the what would be the most

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Speaker 2: must win game of the weekend?

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Speaker 3: The most must win game?

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Speaker 6: Yes, Todd, I am going to go with one of

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Speaker 6: our calls earlier, Tom in North Carolina, who says it's

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Speaker 6: a must must win for the Eagles at home against

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Speaker 6: the lowly Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 2: It feels like the Cleveland Browns are going to pull

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Speaker 2: off a win at some point where you go wow,

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Speaker 2: that they will actually be who we thought maybe they

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Speaker 2: were going to be started the season.

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Speaker 3: Pea bombs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a pea bob. No, no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: I don't have a pea bomb. It felt pea bombs.

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Speaker 2: PAULI has it. The Browns will beat the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: It's a P bomb. If it's actually a P two

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Speaker 3: BOMBA bomb.

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Speaker 2: Okay, a Seaton Most must win game of the weekend.

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's kind of a most must win

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Speaker 3: game for Ohio State and Oregon, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: H You can have two losses, You could have two

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Speaker 2: dog Yeah, I think so. Two losses can still make

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Speaker 2: the plans.

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Speaker 3: It feels like two losses is acceptable for some teams

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Speaker 3: and not others.

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Speaker 2: Though, yes, Alabama could have two losses. Ole Miss cannot.

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Speaker 3: Ohio State can have two losses. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: Oregon can. Can. They it's getting a.

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Speaker 5: Little late in the season to have two losses.

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Speaker 3: A little late, a little late in the season.

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Speaker 2: Two losses, Yeah, to start two Marvin.

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Speaker 3: The mmwg ot W quick question, is this for all sports? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: The Dodgers. Okay, you spent all that money, you got Otani,

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Speaker 3: you had a great season not getting out of the

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Speaker 3: d Yes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, no, good, right, Paulie.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go off the board here with college football,

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Speaker 5: the Tennessee Valls. They lost one last week. They should

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Speaker 5: have won. Everyone was on their bandwagon in September. They're

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Speaker 5: four and one, they're favored by fourteen and a half

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Speaker 5: versus Florida. You need a nice clean win to make

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Speaker 5: people ignore last week.

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Speaker 2: And then I think they have Alabama the following week.

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Speaker 3: Does that sound right?

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Speaker 2: Tennessee Alabama, That's correct. The mm W got W for

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Speaker 2: me is the Cincinnati Bengals. The Bengals must win. Can

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Speaker 2: we bring in Dylan? I would say, our gambling expert.

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Speaker 2: He's not an expert, but he does gamble.

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Speaker 3: So actually I think I've been Jami listening into ball

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Speaker 3: these days and me. But I mean that's okay though.

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Speaker 2: All right, So Dylan, who's part of the Dan Patrick

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Speaker 2: takes a gamble podcast with bad Larry Shane Irvin. I

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Speaker 2: think Seaton does a better Dylan impersonation than Dylan does.

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Speaker 3: Hi Dylan, Hi Dan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey fellas, Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I would agree with that. I think Seton has you

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Speaker 10: could say, mastered that one.

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Speaker 3: It's like the like when he sits down, he's like,

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Speaker 3: oh hey, Dan, how you doing? And then the more

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Speaker 3: that he talked, and then it just kind of settled

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Speaker 3: into this.

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Speaker 10: The fans seem to like it. To half of the

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Speaker 10: stuff we get on social media is like, I love

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Speaker 10: Seatans Dylan in personally.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I guess yeah, yeah, I don't like Dylan, but I

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Speaker 2: like Seaton's impersonation of Dylan. All Right, you got a

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Speaker 2: couple of the best bets.

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Speaker 10: Iowa and Washington under forty one and a half. Big

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Speaker 10: shocker there. Okay, they're back hit the under last week,

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Speaker 10: so we are wheels are in motion again, okay. And

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Speaker 10: I've got Ole Miss minus three and a half at

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Speaker 10: LSU Night Game and Death Valley.

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Speaker 2: This one's.

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Speaker 3: That one scares me, man.

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Speaker 10: It scares me so much that I'm liking it more.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Dylan's logic on the gambling podcast is illogical,

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Speaker 2: you know, and he takes great pride in that.

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Speaker 1: Dan.

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Speaker 10: I've been burned by logic way too many times.

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Speaker 3: What else do you have?

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Speaker 10: So those are my two for college and then for

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Speaker 10: the NFL. As we talked about on the Gambling podcast,

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Speaker 10: I'm taking all of the biggest underdogs against the spread.

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Speaker 10: That trend has been working out pretty well this season.

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Speaker 10: So I do like the Commanders plus six and a

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Speaker 10: half against my Ravens. I think Ravens in a favorite

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Speaker 10: spot that big rarely pays off well. And I do

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Speaker 10: like those Browns plus nine and a half against the

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Speaker 10: Eagles with a little sprinkling on Brown's money line.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, yep.

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Speaker 10: Those are two teams that you could say are in shambles,

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Speaker 10: so race to the bottom.

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Speaker 9: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Eagles are in shambles.

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Speaker 10: Relative to their potential coming into this season and people's opinion.

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Speaker 10: And I think they're they're pretty low on the tone.

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Speaker 2: Oh whole analyst work. Yeah, and uh, I think you

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Speaker 2: should let the audience know how successful you've been this year.

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, so I'm down eleven units.

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Speaker 3: That's not good.

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Speaker 10: No, But I like to start slow, Dan and then

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Speaker 10: pick things up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like the Bengals.

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Speaker 10: Yeah the first half of the season.

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Speaker 2: Yah, all right, that's Dylan the graphics guy. That's Dylan

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Speaker 2: the graphics guy. It's yeah, makes y yeah. Final hour

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Speaker 2: in fact, coming up in ten minutes. Todd Blackledge will

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Speaker 2: be on the call for Ohio State in Oregon that's

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Speaker 2: made the Ravens running back. Derrick Henry will stop by

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Speaker 2: as well. Two hours in the books on this Meet Friday,

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Speaker 2: the Minister of Humor, Seaton O'Connor, Marvin the Prince Polyester

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Speaker 2: with a pea bomb in yours truly final hour on

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Speaker 2: the way