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Speaker 1: We had an unplanned pregnancy and now the mom wants

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Speaker 1: a DNA test test failed. Maybe And this is directly

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Speaker 1: sure where to start, so I'll begin with how I

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Speaker 1: met G thirty three female and I thirty nine male,

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Speaker 1: connected through hinge in January of twenty twenty four. The

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Speaker 1: first date was fine, so we decided to go on

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Speaker 1: a second date, which went much better. Hell yeah, After

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Speaker 1: a month of meeting each other, we met a friend

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Speaker 1: and her husband out and made a night of heavy drinking.

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Speaker 1: One thing led to another and we started a mess around.

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Speaker 1: Is it really messing around? If y'all are dating consistently,

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Speaker 1: they're messing around? By the way, this comes from Major

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Speaker 1: Consequence ninety two, And if you want to submit your

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Speaker 1: so as things get eat it up. Oh god, she

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Speaker 1: stopped me and asked if I had protection because she's

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Speaker 1: not on birth control. In my wasted stupor, I replied

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Speaker 1: that I did not, but had great pullout game, and

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Speaker 1: then we proceeded with the fun No you don't, No,

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Speaker 1: you don't. Any man who says.

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Speaker 4: That is lying unadvised weight he said he did, he

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Speaker 4: did or did not.

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Speaker 1: But I'm saying any man who says that is lying,

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Speaker 1: use protection, use it. Naughty naughty, O p naughty naughty.

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Speaker 1: You're one of our own, and I'm telling you off.

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Speaker 3: Come on, come on.

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Speaker 1: Well, flash forward one month and we find out that

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Speaker 1: she was pregnant.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't see that coming.

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Speaker 1: Who was giving you the stats about your pullout game?

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Speaker 3: I couldn't have protected that. We need a chart, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I need a chart. Where are these stats coming from?

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Speaker 3: We need doctors.

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Speaker 1: I think that apparently my pullout game sucked. Yeah, shocking.

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Speaker 1: At this point, we were in month two of our relationship,

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Speaker 1: Dan Woo, and things had been going great. But this

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Speaker 1: news threw a wrench into everything. Yeah, we will spend

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Speaker 1: the next month trying to process this news and prepare

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Speaker 1: for our new edition. It was in month four when

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Speaker 1: started with a doctor appointment with a genetics specialist regarding

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Speaker 1: a genetic disorder of mine. Oh oh. The doctor mentioned

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Speaker 1: kidney tests that had been ordered for me to take.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't done the test yet, but went to the

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Speaker 1: hospital the next day. She was understandably upset with me

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Speaker 1: and let me know after that there was nothing I

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Speaker 1: I attributed the change in attitude to new hormones that

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Speaker 1: she was experiencing, so I just kept apologizing for any

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Speaker 1: become condescending, asking if I could do anything right or

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Speaker 1: Eventually I lost my patience. I calmly, and sheepishly asked

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Speaker 1: her not to speak down to me. Yeah. She gave

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Speaker 1: I mean, you were two months into your relationship. It's

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Speaker 1: Oh after we got into an argument at the doctor's office.

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Speaker 1: I spent the next two months trying to win her back,

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Speaker 1: but she just continued to be condescending In short. Additionally,

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Speaker 3: You know, daddy's doing good. Daddy's doing good so far.

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Speaker 1: As the months went by, she became increasingly hostile towards me,

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Speaker 1: not great. Oh my god, that's not great. Predictably, then

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Speaker 1: definitely see if you can file some sort of hearing,

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Speaker 3: And also I'm like, hey, don't don't you want any

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Speaker 3: Diapers?

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Speaker 1: I mean, she's trying to leave a piata everything. Oh.

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Speaker 1: When I finally got to hold her, she was the

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Speaker 1: week from our hearing and her lawyer just submitted a counterclaim.

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Speaker 1: Most of the points he contended were expected, but there

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Speaker 1: was one counterclaim that threw me off. She's asking for

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Speaker 1: a DNA test. Hmmm, I mean if she was seeing

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Speaker 1: other people, who's the daddy? Yeah, that's the question. This

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Speaker 1: has really twisted me. Is she admitting that she had

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Speaker 1: call her out for this and even offered to take

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Speaker 1: I am desperate to find out immediately, but also frightened.

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Speaker 1: Frightened to know the truth. So that's where things stand. Now.

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Speaker 4: What is this off the hook catfish picture? He could

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Speaker 1: He loves it.

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Speaker 3: Just go do it again. He wants to be He

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Speaker 1: He wants to be on the hook, the.

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Speaker 3: Good baby daddy. He wants to be.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to vent, but if people are interested,

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Speaker 1: I'll update. I should note that there is a lot

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Speaker 1: more that I left out, but I wanted to be

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Speaker 1: as concise as possible. Comment one. Yet she does not

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Speaker 1: her and her daughter's life. You should have been asking

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Speaker 1: for that DNA test yourself, he says, Oh, yeah, she

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Speaker 1: definitely doesn't know and wants me out. I did ask

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Speaker 1: some reason she didn't. Might have been miscommunication and my

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Speaker 1: certainty she was my child. Comment two says, don't think

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Speaker 1: that you will get a better pull out game. There's

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Speaker 1: always a chance for pregnancy with intimacy, and pulling out

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Speaker 1: is the most likely to fail method. Yeah, talk to us, Riley.

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Speaker 3: There's the leaving it in that's most likely to fail.

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 1: True. Your lawyer might be confused because you initially filed

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Speaker 1: a paternity hearing to discuss visitation rights. Well, that's basically

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Speaker 1: saying you're claiming the child without a DNA test. Given

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Speaker 1: how little you two know each other, I defin recommend

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Speaker 1: not doing this again, as you might find yourself on

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Speaker 1: the hook for children of other men. What when you

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Speaker 1: communicate with your lawyer next, make sure to communicate the

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Speaker 1: necessity of the DNA test. Opie says, I think you're

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Speaker 1: right our primary focus was on arranging visitation as to

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Speaker 1: is possible. I mentioned DNA testing, but I also assured

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Speaker 1: she was my daughter. She must have assumed I didn't

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Speaker 1: magistrate has ordered the DNA testing on the nineteenth after

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Speaker 1: both parties agreed to it. The hearing will be postponed

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Speaker 1: until the results are available. I'm usually cautious about spicy sleep,

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Speaker 1: but I had already had four tequila shots, five beers,

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Speaker 1: and a margarita. Whoo, that is the whole kitten kaboodle.

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Speaker 1: That is you. You drank the whole bar.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't really thinking through the pros and cons at

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Speaker 1: that moment. And there is an update. Oh god, but

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Speaker 1: we just got a lot of info we did. What

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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on this?

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Speaker 4: My thoughts here are number one. For sure, take the

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Speaker 4: DNA test. I oh, yeah, you know. It seems it

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's an unreliable narrator or what

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Speaker 1: I mean we've read a lot of stories where like

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Speaker 1: the op he doesn't or like the guy doesn't find

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Speaker 1: maybe that's what she, you know.

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Speaker 3: Is trying to trying to do.

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Speaker 1: Except he already knows about it. So it's big and

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Speaker 4: It's hard to hard to have the secret baby when

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Speaker 4: the baby isn't a secret.

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Speaker 1: It's not a secret.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I think he should definitely go for the

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Speaker 4: DNA test and you know, essentially like go in court

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Speaker 4: and be like, hey, I want a visitation by this

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Speaker 4: seems to kind of like want to keep the baby

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Speaker 4: away from me, but I have in all of this evidence.

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Speaker 4: I want to be an involved father, and I want

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Speaker 1: To help them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, see see what the courts decide.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully fingers crossed, But there is an up day oh

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Speaker 1: three to see what these courts decide. Well, let's get

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Speaker 1: into it. The DNA test had been done and we

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Speaker 1: are awaiting the results. In the meantime, the mother has

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Speaker 1: allowed me to see the baby twice. That's crazy, dang,

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Speaker 1: you have once. The first instance was incredibly awkward. The

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Speaker 3: Conspiracy theory. Yeah, mom planted.

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Speaker 4: At the gym, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But after they broke up, is weird.

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Speaker 3: This This woman might be trying to, you know, get

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she seems a little little little Cooper took crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The friend eventually left the gym, and I hadn't

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Speaker 1: we broke up. Well, I mean like three weeks. Also,

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Speaker 3: What about two weeks?

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Speaker 3: And you know, she's like, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Was it sleep ragents or whatever?

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Speaker 4: She sent her sleep ragents out there exactly to sleep

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Speaker 1: Oh too smart, can't get can't catch don guard. I

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Speaker 3: Now we're flip flopping.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to believe you. I don't I

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Speaker 1: I am her father. You are flip flopping. We just

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Speaker 1: need this DNA test.

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Speaker 3: We need it, We need a day SAP.

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Speaker 1: At this point, I just have to wait for the

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Speaker 1: And what do you think, Oh, he's dad or not?

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Speaker 4: Honestly, best guess I'm gonna say no, going off of

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Speaker 4: why would you order if it proves he's the father?

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Speaker 4: That hurts suitcase, if you want to keep the baby.

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Speaker 4: So I think she's like, I'm pretty positive that you're

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Speaker 4: it's gonna prove you're not and therefore you're gonna get nothing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like maybe she's just like he's not even the dad,

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Speaker 1: Like why does he keep sticking around? Maybe that's her mindset. Maybe,

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Speaker 1: out what's what. No one seems to be interested, but

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 1: The results finally came back last Wednesday. Everyone get your

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Speaker 1: votes in here we go. Now, I don't think we

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Speaker 3: But hey, let's let's pull it.

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Speaker 1: Pull it before I read it baby or not? Baby

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Speaker 3: Is it his or not? I'm I think it.

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Speaker 1: What did you say?

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Speaker 3: I said?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna say it is his, just for sake

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Speaker 3: Keeping it interesting, Yeah, keep it interesting.

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Speaker 5: I wonder if it is his, because one she's like,

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Speaker 5: I don't want you around.

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Speaker 3: But if it's the other baby daddy, who's going to be.

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Speaker 5: Paying, because like my thought is that the other guy's

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Speaker 3: You should pay for it.

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Speaker 1: Well, it seems like he's like so ready to pay out.

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Speaker 1: He's like, I'm super down to be involved. I like,

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Speaker 1: I want this baby. He didn't even need the he

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Speaker 4: He was just like I'll be in literally and and

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Speaker 4: do we know what this mystery man is going to.

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Speaker 1: Do with the baby involvement. Maybe he just don't wants

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with the baby, and the mom is like,

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Speaker 1: that's what I want.

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Speaker 5: Also, if she's getting mad at op for flirting with

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Speaker 1: That's uh, that's good.

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Speaker 3: Points.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I feel like it's not like

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Speaker 1: not doing anything. That said. After so many attempts to

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Speaker 3: I only answers now.

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Speaker 1: I want to know my assumption. Her mother knew as

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Speaker 3: So they so we're still It's like.

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Speaker 3: Let's go give me my money. I want thanks, there's

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put this in my pocket. You win? Ah man,

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Speaker 1: there you go? And how you can go file for

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Speaker 1: More and more, I hope. So I mean, it's gonna

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Speaker 3: I would definitely put give all of texts.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think you should regardless, just because you

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Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, but there's more who may have teared

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Speaker 1: And there is another update. Oh but yeah, I think

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we need to with with the history of you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, apsolutely. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Update three, There we go.

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Speaker 1: Not a ton has happened since my last update, but

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Speaker 1: last update, we've been doing weekly hour visits at a

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Speaker 3: Do you need space to baby?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well she's a baby. She daughter, baby, daughter, baby daughter,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you want to put on a bread bowl?

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Speaker 1: You want to put come?

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00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:37,440
Speaker 3: That would be cute though.

444
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 1: That would be like when they put babies in pumpkins. Yes,

445
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 1: exactly like that, exactly like that. As much as I

446
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 1: love spending time with my daughter, an hour a week

447
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 1: at a restaurant is not enough, and it's awkward trying

448
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 1: to bond with her in such a public place. I

449
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,679
Speaker 1: will take anything that I can at this point. Her

450
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 1: mother and I tend to keep things civil, if not cold.

451
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 1: Communication between us is kept at a minimum, we simply

452
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 1: say hello and goodbye and move about our day. On

453
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,959
Speaker 1: the legal side, Yes, this is what I wanted to know.

454
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 1: Here we go. We had our status conference two weeks ago.

455
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 1: Prior to the conference, I asked my ex if I

456
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 1: could get more time with her daughter that was not

457
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 1: at a restaurant. She responded that she had several concerns

458
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: with me caring for her and needed to consult her attorney.

459
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,679
Speaker 1: This set my attorney and I into a panic. My

460
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 1: attorney grilled me to find something that may that she

461
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 1: may try and use against me. She examined all of

462
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 1: our texts and emails and couldn't find anything that my

463
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 1: ex could use against me. But to relax. Honestly, I

464
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 1: couldn't help but think my ex would try and falsely

465
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 1: accuse me of something like abuse or violence. No, I

466
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 1: have not been violent towards her. Heck, I've never yelled

467
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 1: or cost at her. I'll try to be as concise

468
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: as possible with the cliff notes of what was relayed

469
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: to me by my attorney of the conference as relaid

470
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: to me by my attorney. Her attorney started requesting that

471
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: we keep the weekly It's at Panera or somewhere similar

472
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: for one hour visits. My concern was that our daughter

473
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 1: cried a couple times when I was holding her during

474
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 1: our visits, that I can't be trusted to be a

475
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: good caregiver to her due to this. The magistrate shot

476
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: that excuse down immediately. Wait, okay, so it seems that

477
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 1: it's not Ope's concern. It seems that they were saying

478
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: that their parenting concern was that every time that O

479
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: beheld his daughter, she would cry. Yeah, which is a

480
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: stupid reason because op, he's only allowed to see her

481
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 1: once a week. Of course, this baby doesn't really feel

482
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 1: like she knows him. She's like, who the heck are

483
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: you this strange man? Who is this man who keeps

484
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 1: holding me up a panera?

485
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not my mama, I'm not my mom. I

486
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 4: come here and there's bread bowls and a strange man.

487
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 4: What else am I supposed to do?

488
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: They had me off to a man for an hour

489
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: and he just stares at me. I don't get it.

490
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,959
Speaker 3: Hey, baby, Yeah, I love you. I'm your daddy.

491
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 1: But also, even if this baby ride every time he

492
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: held her, that's what babies do.

493
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 3: They just be crying, bro, That's what they cry.

494
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: All the time. That's like they're They eat and they

495
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 1: sleep and they cry.

496
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 3: You're not a baby if you.

497
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: Don't cry, truly, honestly, it's a bad sign if you're

498
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: not crying. That's what they say. That's what they say.

499
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: I've heard that through stating that there is no possible

500
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: way to judge a parent, how a parent can care

501
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: for their child in a restaurant, and that only giving

502
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: myself an hour a week is not acceptable, literally telling

503
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: her attorney that my ex was being unreasonable. They also

504
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: claim that I never contributed to medical bills while we

505
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: were together and accused me of being a disappearing act false.

506
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 1: Oh pee literally filed for UH for parental rights.

507
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 5: Yes, he has been trying ye falling you bro wasn't

508
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 5: trying to give the milk.

509
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 3: He was trying to get with the baby.

510
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 1: He was trying to bring milk to the baby. That's right.

511
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: We were prepared for that argument and had literal receipts.

512
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: The text messages then, Mope made it very clear that

513
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: I not only paid half of the bills while we

514
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: were together, but continue to ask for bills after we

515
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 1: broke up. All of the whiles she would lie and

516
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: tell me that there were no bills. The magistrate once

517
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: again chastised her attorney again, this time for lying. Is

518
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: there no like lying fees? You know, like, aren't we

519
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 1: in a court of law? Don't you have to tell

520
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: the truth?

521
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think they have to give all that.

522
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 4: Maybe not in this civil case or whatever, but I

523
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 4: thought they had to give all the evidence beforehand.

524
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

525
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 4: So it's like the other lawyer could read all the

526
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 4: texts because he can't claim like, oh, I'm just going

527
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 4: off what she told me, Like, well.

528
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's like, no, we got the receipts.

529
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,479
Speaker 1: Bred We then made our case for me to have

530
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: more time and my ultimate goal to have my daughter

531
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty. The magistrate was impressed with everything that

532
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: I had done, taking parenting classes, going to therapy, moving

533
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 1: closer to her mother, et cetera. That said, she only

534
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: granted me four hours on Sundays for the next month. Day.

535
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. I'm sorry, Opias from the get

536
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 1: go been so or trying to be so involved in

537
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: his child's life, and it's just been denied and denied

538
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: and denied.

539
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 4: And you know what I can, I can get like, hey,

540
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 4: the baby's used to this home. I'm sure there's something about, like,

541
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 4: you know, you take a baby to a strange environment

542
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 4: that like freaks them out. But this just seems so

543
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 4: like such little time.

544
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: It's not even like I feel like most times it's like, oh,

545
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: this person gets weekends or something, you know, the four

546
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: hours on a Sunday like.

547
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 4: Like if anything, like why not the whole day to

548
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,719
Speaker 4: help the baby like get used to them, or like

549
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 4: or like sprinkled throughout the week or something so the

550
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 4: baby kind of recognized Alice something like that.

551
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm no baby.

552
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: Experts, but but you would think one would. It isn't

553
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: what I wanted. But the silver lining is I was

554
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: given a pathway to be a fifty to fifty parent

555
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: tour and that has given me hope for the future

556
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: now to today. As of now, the court order has

557
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,959
Speaker 1: not been uploaded to the docket, thus not making it

558
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: legally binding it so I still have to beg my

559
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: ex to see my daughter. What is this? What is

560
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: this court system? This is ridiculous. I'm so angry for you, Op. Yeah,

561
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: I mean you have been doing everything, literally everything from

562
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: the start to be a good dad.

563
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 4: It's so it's so clear that he wants to be involved.

564
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 4: He's doing that, He's sending the child support. He's like, Hey,

565
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 4: what bills you got? How can I pay for it?

566
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: Hey? Can I watch the baby? Like? Can I see

567
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: the baby? Can I ham with the baby? It's crystal clear,

568
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: It's crystal clear. This morning I got to see my

569
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: daughter once again out of Panera.

570
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 3: Dude, stop it.

571
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: Honestly, you know what the Panera should file for parenting rights.

572
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 4: At this point, the baby has more recognition of the

573
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 4: Panera bread than her own father.

574
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: It was mostly great. She was laughing and cooing so

575
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: much eating, she was eating bread. She was so much fun.

576
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: As I was enjoying my daughter, my ex was sitting

577
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: at another table with two girlfriends, talking loudly and laughing hysterically.

578
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: I don't hold judgment, but honestly I found them all annoying. Yeah,

579
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: well they suck because they've been holding you from your daughter.

580
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: So mind you. She was always bringing a friend during

581
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 1: these visits, and I come alone. It normally doesn't bother me,

582
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: but for some reason, I couldn't stand any of them.

583
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: I literally wanted to yell at them to shut up.

584
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: But bit my tongue. As the hour went along, my

585
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: daughter began to getting tired and a little cranky. I

586
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: tried to calm her down, but she began crying loudly

587
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: and I noticed some wheezing. Oh no, I was a

588
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: little concerned and wondered if she had been sick. So

589
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: I walked up to the cackling table and asked my

590
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: ex if she was sick. She stated no, but maybe

591
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: if I walked around and bounced her she would calm down.

592
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: I simply said okay, thanks. She then asked me if

593
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: I needed anything else, and I said no and started

594
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: to walk away with a snarky tone. She snapped back

595
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 1: at me that I needed to cut the attitude out

596
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: and that she was trying to help. Lady sucks. Look.

597
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: I turned around and told her that I wasn't giving

598
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: her attitude, and then I came over to simply ask

599
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 1: her a question because I wanted to help. Then, to

600
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: my complete shock, told me that we need to communicate

601
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: better if we're got to be good co parents. Facts.

602
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: I agree with that, and.

603
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 4: Then OPU go, yeah, yeah, yeah, we do need to

604
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 4: communicate better, but but but, but who's gonna help us

605
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 4: do that?

606
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: We just gotta do that. It's so funny because communication

607
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: is a two way street. Yep. And then you go,

608
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: that's a great idea, mother of my child. Let's start

609
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: with letting me see my daughter more. Let's start with

610
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: you responding to my text and telling me what's going

611
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: on with my daughter?

612
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 5: Right, it's a two way street. Off the intersection of

613
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 5: Randolph in park Hill.

614
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: I stood there with my jaw dropped. For the last

615
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: ten months, I have repeatedly asked, no, begged, or to

616
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: meet or call to discuss we were going to co

617
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: parent together, only to be shot down each time as

618
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: she always claimed that was cropping our boundary. Needless to say,

619
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: I just gave her a are you being serious? Look,

620
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: said I agree, and walked away. Lovely oh d. The

621
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: rest of my time with my daughter was kind of

622
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: sullied at this point, But your life will never be

623
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: sullied if you listen to full episodes of stories just

624
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: like this. Just go to Apple podcast, iHeartRadio or Spotify

625
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: and search up Okay, story time, but there is a

626
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: little bit left of the story. Wow, do you have

627
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: any final thoughts?

628
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 4: I just feel for the dad man, and uh, you know,

629
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 4: I hope that we can, you know, get stop sullying,

630
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 4: stop sullying the relationship, hitting those.

631
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: Birds and doing a water landing, Yeah, don't do that.

632
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 4: We need to land smoothly from the air as designed

633
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 4: as it was intended to be. Yeah, I think keep

634
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 4: just keep going the course, keep collecting seats. I don't know,

635
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 4: like like can we like, oh, like hey, I'll record

636
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 4: are our like little.

637
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 3: Playdate, visit Panera, visit things.

638
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: I think they might have some some quandaries against recording

639
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: a baby.

640
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know, but whatever whatever illegal and

641
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 4: ethical ways you can do to collect receipts to show

642
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 4: your innocence and investedness in fatherhood.

643
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean I think, just like keep doing what

644
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: you're already doing. Yes, you are. You have been putting

645
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: in the work. You have been like saying I want

646
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 1: to see your daughter, I want to communicate with you.

647
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: So just like keep showing that dedication and obviously, like

648
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: it's really tough, it's super tough, and you know, it's

649
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: really draining I can imagine, but you are doing a

650
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: great job. Don't let your the baby mama, you know,

651
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: push you out just by sheer force of will and

652
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: her exhausting you. Yeah, like fight, just keep up that fight.

653
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: Seems like you're trying to be a great dad.

654
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know what, as much as it sucks,

655
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 4: progress is being made. Yeah, there's a path to fifty.

656
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 4: To fifty has more time now, so yeah, just keep

657
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 4: the course.

658
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: Great advice, but there is a little bit left ooh

659
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: to this story with girl. Luckily, she had fallen asleep

660
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: as this had been going down between her mother and I.

661
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: This lasted until I handed her over to her mother.

662
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: Since then, I have been fuming over my ex gas

663
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: slighting me into thinking I've been the one not working

664
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: with art. I get it. She finally got the message

665
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: that she needs to work with me, and the court

666
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,719
Speaker 1: stone look kindly to alienation. Still, it shouldn't take a

667
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 1: court order to get to that point. The court order

668
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: should go into effect this week and I can finally

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Speaker 1: spend quality time with my daughter. Honestly, I cannot wait.

670
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: That's it for now. And there are some comments common one,

671
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: this is a dad determined to be a real father.

672
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure many children would want him as very true. Yes,

673
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: common to great job working with a difficult situation to

674
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: see your daughter. Two quick suggestions. Use a parenting app

675
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: for communication. It keeps track of all the text messages

676
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: and can be submitted to a judge. When you're getting

677
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: your four hour Sunday afternoons, you might want to have

678
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: a neutral third party in the background during your visit

679
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: alone with your child so that you have a witness

680
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: to your interactions in case she makes any more claims.

681
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: She did this once and luckily the judge saw through it.

682
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: But when you go to increase custody after you approve

683
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: yourself with the Sundays, you might need it. Opie says,

684
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: thanks to your points, we will be required to download

685
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: a family app once the court order is submitted. I

686
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: have it already, but her mother is yet to download it.

687
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: I have thought about this and bought a go Pro

688
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: to record my time with her. That so, Mandy, He's

689
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: got like the headgear go pro on and the baby

690
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: also has a go pro on of course.

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00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, baby go pro.

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00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's just it's just hours and hours of

693
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: a bit baby in a Panera.

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00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: Dude, can we live stream please?

695
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: Baby in Panera? Live stream? Hey, it's me and my

696
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: baby back at it again doing an eat the menu

697
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: in Panera. That's right. I also have a couple of

698
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: female friends that A volunteered to hang out when I

699
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: have her alone. I don't particularly trust my ex. I

700
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: wonder why, but that is the end of that story.

701
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: Josephine says. The baby version of the cat collar Gobra. Yeah,

702
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: when you know those videos with the cats and they're

703
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: like wandering through houses and stuff. Yeah, the baby's just

704
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: going like and it's like a of like their hands

705
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: in a bread ball. Mingming says, I can't imagine four

706
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: hours in a Panera.

707
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: I think the first red flag is going to Panera.

708
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the first one through ten red flags are

709
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: going to Panera. Totally.

710
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 4: Also, I am I am praying that this episode is

711
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 4: used as evidence in courts.

712
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that would be amazing.

713
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be cool.

714
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 3: Be please let us know use this in course.

715
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're here on your side.

716
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh well, what the hell? Says So are the

717
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: four hour Sundays going to still be at a Panera? Yes?

718
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: They I think they've already said they're going to do

719
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: four hours at the Panera.

720
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: We've got a got a change.

721
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: Unless I'm mistaken, which hopefully I am. Hopefully you can

722
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: do it in up Park. Maybe it's a park outside

723
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: the Panera. But you know, let's venture outside please manah man,

724
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: But that's the end of that story.

725
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 3: But is there one more?

726
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: There is there is one more?

727
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 4: Ah, why don't we get into it? Boys and girls?

728
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 4: John here og host. We're going to get back to

729
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 4: these stories, but a quick three minute break.

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Speaker 1: From as from our sponsors.

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Speaker 4: I want to end my relationship with my pregnant partner

732
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 4: because I'm not the father.

733
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good reason to end it.

734
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 4: It's a good reason, sir. Well, I know this title

735
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 4: sounds like I'm in a hole for wanting to end

736
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 4: it with us, But let me explain a bit of

737
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 4: my background before you pass judgment on me. I've known

738
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 4: this girl or should I say woman, since she's old

739
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 4: enough to be my mom.

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00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: Curly oh gender neutraally curly four a few years now.

741
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 4: We used to work in the same department together and

742
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 4: we were pretty close together. By the way, this comes

743
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 4: from Ichigo is my homie. And if you want to

744
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 4: submit your own story, go to the r slash okay

745
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 4: story time sub reddit for context.

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00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: Opie is twenty seven and his pregnant partner is twenty nine.

747
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 3: Female. That's not enough old?

748
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: Wait what that can't be possible.

749
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 3: We're like forty, but I'd digress.

750
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: Something's wrong here.

751
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 4: Something's wrong, something's off, But Opie says. We talk about

752
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 4: life and such, but I never consider myself to be romantically.

753
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 3: Involved with her.

754
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 4: She was just like a big sister to me. Oh

755
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: I moved into another department last year. Oh oh okay, wait.

756
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: So is she twenty nine or is she old enough

757
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: to be your mom?

758
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 4: I think old enough to be this stepsister. I'm gonna

759
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 4: say jury's out for now. Okay, we get more information.

760
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 4: I moved to another department last year, but we still

761
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 4: kept in touch with We still kept in touch with

762
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 4: each other by texting. She was always in a relationship,

763
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 4: and so is I. Up until last year. Oh god,

764
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 4: I broke my relationship with a girl that I had

765
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 4: been together with for almost six years the day before

766
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 4: my twenty seventh birthday day.

767
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: Long story.

768
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 3: I told her about it over a casual text message.

769
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: How casual?

770
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 4: And she told me that she also broke up with

771
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 4: her harmful boyfriend a couple of weeks before.

772
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: Super casually as well. So casual, Like, yeah, we broke up?

773
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 1: To have any thoughts about that? Oh, what do you

774
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: gotta say about that.

775
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 4: She suggested that we hang out and talk about our

776
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,959
Speaker 4: field relationships. Also, Kinny B said twenty nine or thirty nine.

777
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 3: Thirty nine? Sorry, thirty nine, thirty nine.

778
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: Now we're there.

779
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 3: That's a young MoMA number day, Selexia.

780
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: Wait, okay, it's thirty nine.

781
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 3: It's thirty nine. It's okay, get out of my head.

782
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: It's thirty nine. Okay everyone, I'm sorry.

783
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 4: Josephine sorry, hey, Justphine, give her give her Also not

784
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 4: old enough to be his mom? Yeah, no, I think

785
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 4: he's I feel like I feel like he's like speaking hyperbolica.

786
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, Oh my god, she's so old.

787
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 3: I mean, technically she's.

788
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: Almost she's more than ten years older than me.

789
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 4: Technically it's maybe just barely possible. But that's a strong mom.

790
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 4: That's a young that's a biblical mom, right there, ladies

791
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 4: and gentlemen. Yeah, But at this point I still considered

792
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 4: her a good friend and never intended for the visit

793
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 4: to be more than just to hang out. We hung

794
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: out together in the past, snowboarding, bar hopping, et cetera.

795
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 4: But that was the first time I ever went to

796
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 4: her place. Long story short, we hooked up and had

797
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 4: some spicy sleep that night. I wore a rubber Thank God,

798
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 4: on like the last.

799
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Speaker 1: Three Yeah, he's like, actually, my pully game is really good.

800
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 3: So good, I don't need to, oh God.

801
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 4: From then on we were regularly hooking up every other

802
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 4: week or so throughout the summer. I was loving the

803
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 4: arrangement because it was purely friends with benefits. Later on,

804
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 4: I heard from another coworker of mine that he was

805
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 4: also sleeping with her. Fun facts, So it was all

806
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 4: good old adult fun time for both.

807
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: Of us for the rest of life.

808
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: Sure, listen, sometimes you gotta work on those inter interpersonal

809
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: office relationships. You know.

810
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 4: If it, if it floats your boat and lifts the

811
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 4: sail on your mast, who am I to stop you

812
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 4: or both of you?

813
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 3: So I'm sorry?

814
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 4: Like it. We were getting quite close that it became

815
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 4: a weekly thing for us, and I was becoming more

816
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 4: risky during spicy sleep.

817
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 3: Stop not using rubbers and.

818
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: No. Oh.

819
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 3: We thought we were good, but.

820
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: I thought I was in the clear.

821
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 4: We were in the clear, but I never finished inside

822
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 4: of her. It wasn't until around last September that she

823
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 4: finally told me that she was pregnant.

824
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: Wow, and here we are. We're right back here.

825
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: We are not shocked.

826
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 3: I was shocked.

827
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Speaker 1: Oh how it was like how it couldn't have possible.

828
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 4: There's no way my calculations of calculated this never could

829
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 4: have happened.

830
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm just too good.

831
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: Good thing you got a friend because you could put

832
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: it on them. It could. It's a coin.

833
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: Toss, it's a mommy situation. I forgot about the other

834
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: guy except we need a third manner. We need where

835
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: who's number three? Who's never need to go to Greece? Oh,

836
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: grease heir.

837
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Speaker 4: I was shocked. I felt like I had just been

838
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 4: punted in the gut. She told me that she wasn't

839
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 4: sure who the possible father was because she was still

840
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 4: sleeping with her ex boyfriend while doing me. Also, I

841
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 4: never brought up the fact that I knew she also

842
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 4: slept with the other dude from work.

843
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: So we have our three but bom, no, that's the

844
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: second dude.

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00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: Well there's ex boyfriend and.

846
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 4: Great, Oh I see you see since I also slept

847
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 4: around with a few girls during that same time period.

848
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: But she told me that y'all.

849
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: Were sleeping around with multiple people unprotected. This is not

850
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: why what other things.

851
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 3: That a child what are we doing?

852
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: Yep, y'all, where is our spicy education?

853
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: This is unnecessary.

854
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: Someone needs to sit you all down, listen with the

855
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: pamphlet on STDs.

856
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: Unless you grew up in Florida like me, there's no

857
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 3: excuse for you.

858
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: Or unless you grew up in a Catholic school with

859
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: no spicy education, just don't do it it. Just don't

860
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: even I had you know you can figure it out.

861
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 4: Come on, come on, we have the tools, we have

862
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 4: the technology. But she told me that she hoped the

863
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 4: child is mine. She told me she had been wanting

864
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Speaker 4: to have a child, but her previous husband prior to

865
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 4: this ex boyfriend was sterile. But she was planning to

866
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 4: adopt a child anyways, so she was planning to keep

867
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 4: the baby. She told me that she didn't expect me

868
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 4: to be there for the child. If I didn't want to,

869
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 4: I have to throw out this conspiracy theory he was

870
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 4: getting with these guys.

871
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

872
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 4: Slowly was like, Hey, we don't need to use the protection.

873
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 3: I'm cool with it in.

874
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: Hopes of having baby, having bio baby baby trap, except

875
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: she knows she doesn't want to trap any wants. She

876
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: just wants the baby.

877
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 4: Yes, baby trapped minus the trap. Yeah, just baby, just baby,

878
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 4: just baby, Just.

879
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: Like you've served your purpose. Now you can leave, which

880
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: is really messed up. This is a little crazy.

881
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 4: There's banks you can go to and I won't say

882
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 4: the first word in it, but you can go to them.

883
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 4: Thang it, Riley getting is taken down over here. So

884
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 4: we both have decent paying jobs and are financially capable

885
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 4: of raising a child. So I'm not worried about the

886
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 4: welfare of this unborn child. But I was raised to

887
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 4: be responsible for my actions, but not to.

888
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: Educate yourself on protecting.

889
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: No yourself, that's correct.

890
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 4: I am not responsible for my education, but I am

891
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 4: responsible for my actions all caps Opie says.

892
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: I told her that if a.

893
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 4: Child was mine, then I also wanted to be there

894
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 4: for the baby and help support her. The only condition

895
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 4: was that I wanted a legitimate paternity test to find

896
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 4: out who the father was.

897
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: And I even paid for the testing. What a gentleman,

898
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: A gentleman, what a gentleman? Oh man? Gentlemen these days

899
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: just really know how to sweep a woman off her.

900
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 4: She also agreed to keep our relationship a secret from

901
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 4: many of our coworkers and common friends until the results

902
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 4: was in. Due to circumstances, we had to wait until

903
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 4: she was due for amino a centisism amnio amnios amosentsis.

904
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 4: She's like amnio amnios amnosentsis. Let me know, if I

905
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 4: said that right around twenty weeks gestation, then we could

906
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 4: perceive with attorney paternities.

907
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: Ah. So I think it's like amniotic fluids.

908
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, we need like twenty weeks for the amiotic fluids

909
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 4: to be there to successfully.

910
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 3: Do What does that mean? What does a amiotic fluid?

911
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 4: Do?

912
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: You listen up here, buddy?

913
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 4: Okay, how many times do I have to say I

914
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 4: was educated in the Sunshine State?

915
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: You spell that wrong? I yeah, it's I mean, it's

916
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: the stuff in the womb. It's the stuff that's like

917
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: it's like it's like helping the baby form.

918
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 3: It helps the baby. It's it's good old baby juice.

919
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 4: Okay, I I I passed my driver's test by bikes.

920
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 4: Looking at it up on Yahoo answers. It actually don't

921
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 4: know what else to tell you.

922
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: Okay, baby is in the little It's like a like

923
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: when you're in a one of those sensations. Deprivation takes deprivation. Yeah,

924
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: but imagine it was like like you were in a

925
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: car accident and you were in it, and but it's

926
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: also kind of it's just like keeps you there. It's

927
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: just like I don't even know, it just keeps you safe.

928
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 4: I'm in the a am neotic sack with the amniotic

929
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 4: fluid and sounds like.

930
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 3: If anyone would know this would be you. Bro, you've

931
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 3: been in there the long.

932
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: Listen, listen.

933
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 4: Just because I was a fetus for nineteen months doesn't

934
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 4: mean I knew it was going on.

935
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,240
Speaker 3: I can't remember being a feed says.

936
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: In another way from what I just explained, which I

937
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: think was a great metaphor, it helps protect the baby

938
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: from bumping around and stuff your brain fluids. We're learning

939
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: so much. We're learning so much today. I already knew this,

940
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: but John's learning.

941
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 3: Sure.

942
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 5: Sure, you just get a download at puberty of how

943
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 5: the woman's body works. I don't you know how my

944
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 5: own body works.

945
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: You should figure that out. Dobby says.

946
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 4: I've been spending more time with her while waiting for

947
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 4: the amino, and I actually like it. She told me

948
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 4: that I've become her only amnio. Yeah, ya, waiting for

949
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 4: the amnio, and I actually like it. She told me

950
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 4: that I've become her only spicy related partner since she

951
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 4: found out about the pregnancy.

952
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if I buy that.

953
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know if I buy that little Mama store.

954
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 3: Who's a daddy?

955
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: We still don't know.

956
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 4: I think that because the other dude.

957
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: She's like, you're my favorite of the three. I didn't

958
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: want to hell you, but you're my favorite. Don't tell

959
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: anyone else. And then she tells that to all the

960
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 1: guys who in now money money.

961
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 3: Triple child support.

962
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, whoa, but she's getting She's getting the test before

963
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 4: the baby's freaking popped.

964
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: Out way before dinner.

965
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: That's true, that's true. Yeah, soak it up all you can,

966
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 3: like amniotic fluid.

967
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: Sure, soak it up.

968
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 4: Got him so at one point, oh god, at one

969
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 4: point she even told me the I love you, although

970
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 4: I didn't say it back because she was saying in

971
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 4: a casual way and I also don't.

972
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: Feel that way about her. It's like, hey, I love you,

973
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: and he was like.

974
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 4: She told me that I was such a better person

975
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 4: than her ex because I treated her with respect, et cetera,

976
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 4: and she wished that I could stick around. I told

977
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 4: her that let's take things one day at a time.

978
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 4: The more time I spent with her, the more I

979
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 4: saw that she was getting more attached to me, and

980
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 4: her insecurities started to show.

981
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 3: Fast forward to a couple of weeks ago.

982
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 4: I received the attorney test in the mail and I

983
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 4: am not the father.

984
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 3: Sorry, guys, what.

985
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: So at this point does he just head out?

986
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 4: He's like, hey, I mean this his his action did

987
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 4: not yield responsibility to be responsible.

988
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: For, even though he was irresponsible. Even though he was irresponsible,

989
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: he's responsibility.

990
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 3: He lucked out, and it's not his responsibility juncture.

991
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: But my advice to you is to use protection.

992
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 5: Or you know you already get you don't have spicy sleeper,

993
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 5: you die.

994
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 3: So as much as I enjoyed being with her, I

995
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 3: knew I had to end the romantic relationship.

996
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: But you enjoyed. You were like, I don't really like her.

997
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: She's oh, she said, I love you and I and

998
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: how could I.

999
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 4: I don't want a relationship where I can't be open

1000
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 4: about it to my friends and family. It is a

1001
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 4: major taboo in my culture. I'm from Southeast Asia. To

1002
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 4: have a pre marital child and none of my family

1003
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 4: know about the issue.

1004
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: Not taboo enough to use protection.

1005
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 4: She's calling it like she sees it, and she's she's

1006
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 4: not wrong. Let me tell you that, even for Western

1007
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 4: culture standards, being in a relationship with someone who is

1008
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 4: pregnant with someone else's child seems to be quite unacceptable,

1009
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 4: you know.

1010
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it just seems like you're not interested in her. Yeah,

1011
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: Like just say, like, were you even in a relationship

1012
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: with her while all this stuff was going on? Or

1013
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: did you just stick around because you thought you might

1014
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: be the father? Because that's what I thought.

1015
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 4: And also it sounded like she he was like, oh

1016
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 4: she stopped having other spicy sleeping partners. Yeah, that kind

1017
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 4: of implies that they were continuing.

1018
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah. I don't know.

1019
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1020
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 4: She is a great person and a good friend of mine,

1021
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 4: and I don't want to end this relationship abruptly. I

1022
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 4: don't want the breakup to cause emotional harm to her,

1023
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 4: especially when her hormones are out of whack from the pregnancy,

1024
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 4: thus making her more susceptible to depression, which I know

1025
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 4: she was on antidepressant meds.

1026
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: In the past.

1027
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 4: I care about her well being and the fetus, but

1028
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 4: I can't keep stringing her along any longer and making

1029
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 4: her grow more attached to me day by day. I

1030
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 4: must stop her from loving me because I am so lovable.

1031
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: Oh wait, no, no, read the next sentence.

1032
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 4: I was going to break it off with her on

1033
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 4: Valentine's Day. Ray, that negates all the words that you

1034
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 4: just just just know.

1035
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: Listen, listen.

1036
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 4: We're all for communicating, you know, quickly, and like all this.

1037
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 4: Give it twenty four more hours? Why give it twenty

1038
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 4: four more hours?

1039
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: Bro? What about Valentine's Damage? You think that was a

1040
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: good day to do that?

1041
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 3: Why just the fifteenth?

1042
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: The fifteenth, is there, teeth is a great day? We are, Yes, honestly,

1043
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: maybe thirteenth if you really need to do it.

1044
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 4: You know what, Yeah, yeah, but not not then fourteenth.

1045
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 4: You know, ideally the fifteenth to be.

1046
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: Deally the fifteenth because you don't want to Yeah yeah,

1047
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: well no, because then you don't want to have done

1048
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: stuff on the fourteenth.

1049
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and spend money.

1050
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: Well, I just meant like get her hopes up romantically

1051
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: on that. That's true. That's a good point. That's these

1052
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: are good point.

1053
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 3: Just just just not the fourteenth.

1054
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: Let's just do it a month before.

1055
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, come on, let's let's speed it up. But

1056
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 4: I couldn't bring myself to tell her. Then she made

1057
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 4: a wonderful dinner and other things and showed me that

1058
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 4: she loved Yeah.

1059
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,919
Speaker 1: Because it's freaking Valentine's date, you goose? Yeah? Oh boy.

1060
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 4: Well, my brain's tired of thinking about this issue. I'm

1061
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 4: going to do some laundry and hit the gym for

1062
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 4: some cardio and hopefully clear my head about this issue.

1063
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 4: I would appreciate insights from those who have been in

1064
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 4: a similar situation and how you have dealt with it.

1065
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 4: Not like this this yeah, not like this, brother, but

1066
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 4: there is a quick edit at a number one. Thank

1067
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 4: you for the constructive criticisms. I know it was immature

1068
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 4: and foolish on my part for going bare back, but

1069
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 4: spare me your judgment two dates. I asked for your

1070
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 4: insights on this issue, not your judgment. I'm just a human.

1071
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 4: I make mistakes.

1072
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: Human. Yeah, oh this is this is what I think.

1073
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: He sounds like.

1074
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm just suing.

1075
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: Okay, I made mistakes. I'm just no. I didn't know

1076
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: that I couldn't break up with someone on Valentine's dade.

1077
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: I thought because he was a day about love that

1078
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: I could also end a relationship. I didn't know you're

1079
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: not being so mean to me.

1080
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 3: I was gonna do it, but she made me. Sam,

1081
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 3: I liked you, Samon.

1082
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: And she told me this. She loved me, So I

1083
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: are you gonna knew it? Then? So I stay with

1084
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: her for another year? Shoe me, shoe me told me

1085
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: that I to wear protection.

1086
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 4: Okay, I will admit that this is not a fun

1087
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 4: thing to communicate, but just my dude, come on, the

1088
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 4: issue is bad enough for me to deal with and

1089
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 4: I don't need your condescending judgment about not using a

1090
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 4: Wiener wrapper.

1091
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 3: Don't comment.

1092
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 4: If you're just gonna judge me for my past too late,

1093
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 4: I don't worry.

1094
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm also judging you for your president.

1095
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: Ah got him.

1096
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 4: I will plan a meeting with her sometime this week

1097
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 4: to sit down and have the talk with it. An

1098
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 4: update will depend on how things go in the next

1099
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 4: couple of weeks, and ladies and.

1100
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 3: Gentlemen jump in. We have an updates.

1101
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Speaker 1: Let's jump in.

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Speaker 3: First, it didn't go well, chuck so much shock.

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Speaker 4: It didn't go as well as I would have liked to.

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Speaker 4: I've been busy working last the last week and was

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Speaker 4: only able to squeeze in one night to talk to her.

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Speaker 4: I had it all playing down of my head while

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Speaker 4: driving up to her place. I was going to casually

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Speaker 4: take her out to eat, so much casualness, and so

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Speaker 4: I could tell her about it outside her own home.

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Speaker 4: Later on, a female coworker told me, that's a crappy

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Speaker 4: move or break.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry you made her do that in public.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not smart. So in my head I didn't

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Speaker 4: want her home to remind her of the breakup, so

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Speaker 4: I took her out to eat it.

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Speaker 1: Probably took her to a Panara so baneras where all

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Speaker 1: dreams go to die. He did on the fifteenth, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and bought her a box of chocolate bread bowl. He's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm breaking up with you, yeah, but here's bread bowl. Enjoy.

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Speaker 4: We went to this crappy looking Mexican food restaurant with

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Speaker 4: great reviews on Yell.

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Speaker 1: This guy. This guy is interesting.

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Speaker 4: The food was amazing, but she was feeling nauseated, most

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Speaker 4: likely to pregnancy related symptoms.

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Speaker 1: Dude like.

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Speaker 3: Did you ask her what she like?

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Speaker 4: Did you at least ask her if she had a

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Speaker 4: place she wanted to go to or if she had

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Speaker 4: any you know, pincer.

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Speaker 1: And shows like the most like scent, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: heavy food, and was like, yeah, this will be fine

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Speaker 1: for a pregnant woman who's nauseous.

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Speaker 4: I went to this spicy grease pit and it was awesome,

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Speaker 4: but she kind of hated it.

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Speaker 1: And was throwing up and stuff.

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Speaker 4: Oh lord, we just went on like usual during a dinner.

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Speaker 4: I didn't want to break up while she was feeling sick,

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Speaker 4: so we just got back to her place and I

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Speaker 4: ended up staying the night at her place.

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Speaker 1: My brother and christ what we're doing.

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Speaker 4: We got hungry around three am, and she suggested going

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Speaker 4: to Denny's for an early breakfast before going back to sleep.

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Speaker 4: She works the night shift and I work in the afternoon. Wow,

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Speaker 4: mind shift, And she was feeling a lot better. So

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Speaker 4: I was going to break the news at Denny's.

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Speaker 1: It is the fifteenth, guys, Guys, he was gonna break

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Speaker 1: the news at Denny's at three am on.

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Speaker 3: The fifteenth, getting early start. Actually, I think it's the sixteenth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a day, okay, even better.

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Speaker 4: But I was gonna break it the news at Denny's,

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Speaker 4: but I couldn't bring myself to do it, so we

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Speaker 4: went back get it.

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Speaker 1: Marry this woman?

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Speaker 3: Oh right, he's just like I.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't bring myself to say no, so I married her.

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Speaker 1: I've happily raised this child for thirteen years. Here we are.

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Speaker 1: I'm daddy, but I'm not daddy.

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Speaker 4: So we went back to her place again after Denny's

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Speaker 4: and we both went to sleep the non spicy kind.

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Speaker 4: I left her place in the afternoon to go to work,

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Speaker 4: and when I got to work, I received a text

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Speaker 4: from her saying thank you for spending time with me

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Speaker 4: last night. She also asked me if I could meet

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Speaker 4: up with her for a late lunch special. My shift

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Speaker 4: usually ended around her lunchtime. In the past, we used

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Speaker 4: to hook up like rabbits on her lunch break in.

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Speaker 3: My wagons stabbing.

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Speaker 4: I replied to her by saying, I would like to

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Speaker 4: do a late lunch special, but I think we need

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Speaker 4: to talk about us. She knew it then and there

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Speaker 4: that what the talk was all about, and texted me

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Speaker 4: that she was upset and would rather have had this

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Speaker 4: talk at her place last night. I apologized if I

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Speaker 4: made her upset right before going to work up, but

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Speaker 4: I told her I had to be honest with her

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Speaker 4: and myself. I told her that if I could just

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Speaker 4: wait until after the weekend to discuss this matter, since.

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Speaker 1: We would be both working all weekend long.

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Speaker 4: Ah man, I don't know, dude. I think the cat

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Speaker 4: is out of a bag. But we'll see what you do.

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Speaker 4: Fast forward to tonight, I text her again and ask

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Speaker 4: her how she's doing. She said she's doing okay. We

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Speaker 4: then started discussing the text from last week. She was

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Speaker 4: still upset about it. She wished it could have happened

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Speaker 4: in person. She told me she had so many things

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Speaker 4: to say to me, and none of it was bad

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Speaker 4: or mean. He just wanted to close this chapter with

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Speaker 4: me by saying all the nice things about me. But

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Speaker 4: the text from last week left her with a sour

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Speaker 4: note and she couldn't say those nice things anymore. She

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Speaker 4: said she enjoyed my companionship and that she didn't expect

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Speaker 4: anything from me since she found out about the pregnancy.

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Speaker 4: Then she told me that we should go snowboarding next year.

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Speaker 4: So I told her that I enjoyed the companionship and

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Speaker 4: agreed on the future snowboarding plan. Okay, I told her

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Speaker 4: I wished her and the baby the best and asked

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Speaker 4: her to say hi to her dog for me. I'm

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Speaker 4: really going to miss that fluffy, cuddly guy.

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Speaker 3: She said that she would.

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Speaker 4: And ended the reply with a smiley face. I'm relieved

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Speaker 4: that it's over, but also feel bummed out for several reasons. First,

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Speaker 4: I really really love.

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Speaker 1: Her dog dog. Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't love her.

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Speaker 1: I gonna miss her dog.

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Speaker 3: But I love her dog man, good old Fluffy. He

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Speaker 3: was a good boy.

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Speaker 1: What can I say?

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Speaker 3: And you dropped that joke.

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Speaker 4: I've always wanted my own dog, but my current life

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Speaker 4: arrangements make it difficult for me to have one. Second

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Speaker 4: text messages don't convey any form of emotion and feeling

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Speaker 4: unless it's explicitly stated in the message. I'm not sure

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Speaker 4: if she's really okay or just saying that because it

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Speaker 4: already happened. By the way, if you're not okay, well boy,

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Speaker 4: oh boy, do I have a solution for you, and

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Speaker 4: that is full episodes that you can binge with stories

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Speaker 4: just like this. Just go to Spotify, Apple, iHeart or

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Speaker 4: your favorite podcast app and search. Okay, story time, We've

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Speaker 4: got tons of episodes for you to binge to your

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Speaker 4: heart's content. You will not run out of the front,

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Speaker 4: I promise you. Reason number three. This so called relationship

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Speaker 4: slash companionship was the most civilized and peaceful relationship I've

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Speaker 4: ever had my previous relationships before this one lasted six years.

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Speaker 4: I was emotionally taxing and ended on very bad terms.

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Speaker 4: I learned a lot from it and think that's one

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Speaker 4: of the reasons why this last one seems so much smoother.

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Speaker 4: Until the breakup via text message, we never had a

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Speaker 4: real argument or fight. As good as it sounds, the

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Speaker 4: relationship felt quite superficial for me, and that's another reason

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Speaker 4: why I felt quite relieved with this breakup. I'll add

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Speaker 4: this experience to my book of life and use it

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Speaker 4: as my life lesson to become a better person when

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Speaker 4: it comes to relationships and wrapping it before I hit

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Speaker 4: it no matter what.

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Speaker 1: That is correct.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, although the idea of a sectomy, it doesn't sound

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Speaker 4: too bad.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, Maybe that's yeah, Maybe that's the solution for you.

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Speaker 1: Might be the move, my friend.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's it.

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Speaker 1: Michelle G. Thank for the five Bucks. Still, how is

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Speaker 1: thirty nine to be his mom? He's twenty seven?

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Speaker 3: He did, he was like Bob because of it's clearly.

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Speaker 1: Not the sharpest tool in the chat.

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Speaker 3: No, he's not the fastest shoe brew in the garage.

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Speaker 1: He's uh yeah, that's all I got.

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Speaker 3: No a w or x more of an outback.

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Speaker 1: That is the end of this story. That's right.

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Speaker 3: M hmm.

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