1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the best podcast available training competition. Here are 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: your hosts, Jason Gibbs, Andrew Gribble and Nick Shook. Welcome 3 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: to day number four of training camp here in Baria. 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: We are in the dog bowl. Jason Gibbs, he's Andrew 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: Gribble with a hat, he's Nick Shook with the sun block. 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: And four days down, one day to go, and a 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: day off is on the horizon. Not a day off 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: for us, a day off of the players. But we 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: have four days down, two of them in pads. No 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: sign of going back to shorts anytime soon, per Freddy Kitchens. 11 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: But another day of work here in Barria, and a 12 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: pretty solid day of work. Andrew Gribble, Yeah, I thought 13 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: today's practice was more physical. Maybe it just from the 14 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: looks of it, maybe they were warming up to the 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: to the physicality of day one. But I up until 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: the end where things got kind of got a little 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: wonky with the running the gas or and and kind 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: of the skirmish there between Chad Thomas and Barrell Brown, 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: I thought it was looking good. And I think but 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: we we come away from this saying, oh, yeah, it 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: look good, And I think we say that because the 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: offense looked better. I mean that just makes you feel 23 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: better about a practice. I mean, as much as we 24 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: like to say we liked the back and forth, things 25 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: just look better on the practice field when the offense 26 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: is playing better. There ran the ball better, they were 27 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: completing passes. I thought Jervis Landry every time I looked 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: up was catching passes today, So the offense looked better. Uh. 29 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: And then the end, it just didn't go as you'd 30 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: like a practiced end, especially in the in the two 31 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: minute drill there at the end where you have a 32 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: turnover into missfield goals. It's funny, hey, you mentioned, uh, 33 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: Jervis Landry catching a lot of passes. He seemed to 34 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: be the go to receiver for Baker Mayfield today, which 35 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: was encouraging because through the first few practices of camp 36 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: it seemed almost as if Baker was forcing the ball 37 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: to Odell Beckham to you know, I don't think if 38 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: he necessarily was, but he was definitely that was his 39 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: first read in his progression a lot of the time, 40 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: and so to see him instead go to some other 41 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: guys today was was was comforting, I think and also 42 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: very incourage exciting because there are a ton of weapons 43 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: on this team. But it's funny too because in my 44 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: notes earlier in the practice, I said, well, not not 45 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: much physicality day, not quite as much hitting, And then 46 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: they really turned it up, especially in the second team period. 47 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: Uh for the second straight day. Mo Bamba kind of 48 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: welcomes everyone to the full contact session and then Dontrelle Hilliard. 49 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: Hilliard rips off a touchdown round in the first play 50 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: of full contacts. So I think that's when things turned up, 51 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: and they've never really slowed down until guys are running 52 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: fifty three and a half or fifty three and third 53 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: yards down the field and back. Jennard Avery did not 54 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: practice today. UH, Kareem Hunt and Duke Johnson still out, 55 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: Donnie Lewis joined the injured ranks, and Damien Ratley continues 56 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: to rehab that hamstring. Should we be concerned at all 57 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: about Jinnard Avery, I mean, I don't know what do 58 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: we know much? I don't I don't think we know 59 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: a whole lot about it, other than I think we 60 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: were all a little surprised when he was not out 61 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: on the field here with the regulars. As more, it's 62 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: kind of like a surprise scratch or surprise and active 63 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: on a game day. That's kind of what it was 64 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: for Jinnard today. He is even scheduled to do media 65 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: and then didn't do it because because of course you 66 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: didn't practice. So uh an interesting situation that will probably 67 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: want to keep an eye on, but hopefully it's nothing 68 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: too concerning. That listed as an ankle injury. So he 69 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: looked fine walking out there. You look fine walking out, 70 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: He look fine walking back here. Yeah, so we'll kind 71 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: of see all that plays. Caution is the flavor of 72 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: the season right now. Biggest takeaway from the day for you, 73 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: Mr Grubel. I mean, I'll we've been really positive. I'll 74 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: go uh a little negative on this one. I think 75 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: it's just it's it's tough to see a day like 76 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: the one we saw for the kickers, and I think 77 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: that's just we haven't talked about the kicking much on 78 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: the podcast so far. But Day two, Greg Joseph had 79 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: a good practice. Austin Cybert was good except for one 80 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: miss today in a situation. In the situation they they 81 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: ran some kicks before uh the end of practice. Greg 82 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: Joseph continue to look really good. I think the ball 83 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: comes off his foot really well. That's my amateur kicking 84 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: opinion as far as it goes. But it just it 85 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: just looks better. It's just it's it's sounding good right now. 86 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: He has a big leg and he's shown it. Uh. 87 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: And then Cyber struggle. I think the unofficial tally at 88 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: that part was was one of four. And then both 89 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: of them are brought into the field for late game 90 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: quick situations where they have to get lined up kicked 91 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: their field goals. Joseph misss his from about forty five, 92 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: Cyber Mrs hihs from from a longer, longer distance was 93 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: pretty rough. Yeah, I mean all misses are the same, 94 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: it's just but it didn't clearly you knew came off 95 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: the foot wrong right away. So it's just it's one 96 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: of those things where you obviously want to see these 97 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: guys make kicks every practice. I think what they do 98 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: today has no effect on who the ultimate winner is 99 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: in terms of are your confident in them in September, 100 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: But you just want to see a competition where you're 101 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: having a tough time to decide between the two because 102 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: they're all making their kicks, and Uh, a day like today, 103 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't the case. I thinks of interesting about this 104 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: kicking situation because Greg Joseph, it seems, has benefited from 105 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: working with Mike Pree from the offseason, working on his approach, 106 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,119 Speaker 1: just something they've talked about many times, and he's gotten 107 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: more consistent today. Notwithstanding, whereas I think Austin Cyberd is 108 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: dealing with a little bit of the pressure of being 109 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: a drafted kicker and somebody that a lot of fans 110 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: probably expect to come in and win the kicking job 111 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: and solidify a position that has been anything but for 112 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: the last three or four years, and and seeing them 113 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: go on the field kind of pitted against each other 114 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: in those scenarios. Um, you know, with a breeze today 115 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: there was a breeze. The breeze was not why Austin 116 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: missed his kick. It could have influenced Greg's kick a 117 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: little bit. Um, But you know, the conditions weren't perfect. 118 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: They were ideal, but they weren't perfect. I will give 119 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: them credit. Each of them hit at least one kick 120 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: through the really narrow goal post at the end of 121 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: the field the opposite into the field at the start 122 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: of practice today, which is tough to do. But they 123 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: did have a lot of tries so definitely a work 124 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: in progress, and today not the best day for them. 125 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: My my takeaway from today is, man does a freakas 126 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: or a scuffle or a full blown fight, is it 127 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: isn't that able to kind of knock a practice off 128 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: the rails? UH? Today? Yeah, today we had you know, 129 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: that scuffle between Farrell Brown and UH and Chad Thomas 130 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: and and it looked like, you know that the pacing 131 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: of everything was going well. The offense was finding, you know, 132 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: ways to make plays. The defense was not causing as 133 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 1: many issues, although they were making their plays as well. 134 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: UM and the and the competition had been turned up. 135 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: You know, it was just two good units going head 136 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: to head for a lot of the practice, and we 137 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: saw some highlights, We saw some good defensive plays, and 138 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: then the fight breaks out. They have to run. They 139 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: spend ten minutes, you know, running and in a huddle 140 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure being admonished by their coach, and 141 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: then they come back in the field to finish whatever 142 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: it was left of that period. And it didn't seem 143 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: like much before it was all over again. It just 144 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: was a kind of a buzz kill to what was 145 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: a pretty solid day leading up to that point. I 146 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: could not agree more. It was it was rough after 147 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: they got done running and obviously you've got guys towards 148 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: the end of practice anyways, running wind sprints with all 149 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: the gear on. Uh, it just it did not look 150 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: good in any way, shape or form. After they got 151 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: done with Do you think up until the Jarvis Landry 152 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: fumble though, on the on the two minute drill, the 153 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: first team offense looked like it was cooking like they 154 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: and he was extending a play, making a play he had. 155 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: He had a juke on that play that made the 156 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: fans like make an audible oh like he but Joe 157 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: Schobert kept with the play and poked it out from behind. 158 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just one of those things where that 159 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: kind of happens. But I did like, for that brief moment, 160 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: it looks like the two minute drill offense was doing 161 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: what it did the previous day offensively. It was from 162 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: the offensive perspective, it was an appropriate bummer for for 163 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: like for that that was it like that was the 164 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: first team's last shot of the day. Ends with a fumble, 165 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: you could have kind of, um, you know, saved some 166 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: of the practice if they ended up in the end zone. 167 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: I like that. I like that that they just ended 168 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: it though, because sometimes we've seen turnovers in that situation 169 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: where and then the coaches are like, no, let's keep 170 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: running this, as if that didn't happen. Now, they were 171 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: just like, nope, that's it. No, and that's you. You 172 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: saw it a few times today with penalties, you know, 173 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: Freddie asking the officient where was the penalty? Who was 174 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: it on, and moving the offense back or moving the 175 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: offense forward, depending on who it was on. There were 176 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: no gimmis in any way, shape or form. I really 177 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: appreciated Freddie and and the guys in the stripes might 178 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: have not appreciated and we we appreciate them taking the 179 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: time to come to practice and officiate and everything else. 180 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: But I did appreciate Freddie kind of getting into him 181 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: a little bit when you know, when there was a 182 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: hole or two where at one point I heard him 183 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: go over to the reference say did you see him 184 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: grab his jersey? Did you see him grab it as 185 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: the ball was coming to him? You didn't, Well, I 186 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: did throw the flag and then walked away. I mean, 187 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. And he got on him yesterday he said, 188 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: I just watched five straight plays that involved penalty flags 189 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: that weren't thrown. Yeah, he's getting these guys are not 190 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: there just to look pretty. Now he wants them throwing fly. 191 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: This is a clear point of emphasis though, and it 192 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: goes back to what Freddy talked about with the fight 193 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: and the decision to make guys around, because we've seen 194 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: what happened the skirmmage day was I would even barely 195 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: put it on like a I put it like a 196 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: three on practice scuffles, Uh, but we we usually don't 197 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: see everything coming to a halt and people running. That 198 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: is more of the added emphasis on penalties, not practicing penalties, 199 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: because what you do that in the field, you're getting 200 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: a flag and potentially getting tossed out of the game. 201 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: So it's like anything, it's reflected on everything they've been doing. 202 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: Emphasis on penalties because I think I don't even know 203 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: where the Browns ranks last year, but there was a 204 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: situations where the team had way too many penalties. And 205 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: it goes hand in him A special team goes Yeah, 206 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: special teams, especially where they've been stressing fundamentals, because that's 207 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: where he said the penalties come up. So it just 208 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: seems like he looked at this team, looked what he 209 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: saw last year and was like, this team gets way 210 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: too many penalties. We need to make this an emphasis. 211 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: And that goes with everything I think. Above all, the 212 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: one thing I really love about the Freddie Kitchens staff 213 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: and and his tenure so far as a head coach 214 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: is he just not cut corners anywhere if if the 215 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: offense doesn't get it right, He'll keep you out there 216 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: until you get it right the defense doesn't get it right, 217 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: same thing every practice, no matter what, no matter the agenda, 218 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: exactly and it and it sticks to the point of 219 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: that girl was just making, which is even through the 220 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: fight and everything else, we're gonna stay out here and 221 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna get this right, and we're gonna make sure 222 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: that no penalty goes unpunished, and no extracurricular stuff goes 223 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: unpunished as well. And it's it's it's it's the ideal 224 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: total effort. I think that you need to ensure that 225 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: a team that has enough talent to win is going 226 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: to be disciplined enough to win. Do you can simultaneously 227 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: acknowledge boys will be boys heat of training camp moments 228 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: these things happen, but also punished, which is basically what 229 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: we saw today. It's like, you're not gonna hold it 230 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: over Pharrell Brown for you know, getting involved in terms 231 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: of like where he's lined up the next day, but 232 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna the whole team is gonna have to pay 233 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: for it. And when the players got asked about it, 234 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: they didn't seem to have an issue with it because 235 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: they understand, like one person gets penalty, everyone gets punished 236 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: anyways in a game. Yeah, we'll hear from Larry yogun 237 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: Job later on our sound Bites segment on that Quickly 238 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: game balls from day four of training camp shook, We'll score. 239 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: This is probably a tough one. You know, he's had 240 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: a really good camp and had another good camp today. 241 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: David Njoku. I mean he's catching everything that's coming his way. 242 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: He looks really good. I know the area that he 243 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: needs to improve in his blocking, and I haven't been 244 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: able to really look closely enough at that to give 245 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: you a, you know, a judgment on that so far. 246 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: And it's also very early. But when he comes to 247 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: catching passes, he's out there. The only time he didn't 248 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: catch a pass that he probably should have was when 249 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: he got held, which is the when Freddie, you know, 250 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: got mad at the official for that. What we referenced earlier, 251 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: that was the only time he didn't catch a ball 252 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: that was in his radius. Um, I think he's only 253 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: improving as a pass catcher, which is pretty scary when 254 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: you consider that you've also got a guy like Demetrius 255 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: Harris opposite him who could do just about as much offensively. 256 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: So he had another good day, and I think his 257 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: game ball really comes from having a good four days 258 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,599 Speaker 1: so far. I'll go with Dontrell Hillier, who had the 259 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: biggest play of the day, first big long run on 260 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: the on the first play of full contact. To me, 261 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: and I don't think it's I'll quote Zack Jackson tweet 262 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: this during camp. I don't think there's It's not even 263 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: like really a question this guy's gonna make the team anymore. 264 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: This guy is a part of the the offense and 265 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: is in the plan ends for what they want to do. 266 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: And I think that was clear the moment Freddie Kitchens 267 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: took over his offensive coordinear last year. He found a 268 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: way to work him into the game plan. Obviously didn't 269 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: want him to throw a pick like he did against 270 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: the Falcons, but he found he found a way to 271 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: work him into the game plan. And they believe in 272 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: this guy, not just as a running back, but as 273 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: a kick returner too. Uh So, I just clearly with 274 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: Cream Hunt suspension, Duke Johnson has been injured. Both have 275 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: been injured right now in camp. I mean, he's your 276 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: number two running back on this team right now, and 277 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: he'll be at minim and when the season starts, number three, 278 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: and that that that gets you on the team. And 279 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: and the name might not grab an eye or grab 280 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: an ear, but his play should. I think fans will 281 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: really like that going forward. And it continue to establish 282 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: yourself as a great special teamer exactly, which is what 283 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: they're looking for, no question. All right, he's Andrew Gribble, 284 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: He's Nick Shook, I'm Jason Gibbs. That's what happened on 285 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: day number four of training camp. I had a chance 286 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: to sit down earlier today, right after practice with the 287 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: Voice of the Browns, Jim Donovan, to get his thoughts 288 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: on the first four days at camp. What is go 289 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: it out to him on the offensive side of the ball, 290 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, special teams, and what 291 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: he's seen from our new head coach in Freddie Kitchens, 292 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: have a listen Jim. Four days in the books and 293 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: a couple of days and pads. Some good things from 294 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: the offense, some good things from the defense. What have 295 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: you seen so far? Yeah, I think really more good 296 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: things from the defense than I've seen from the offense. 297 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: But that's historic, I think, Jason. I think that early 298 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: on in camp, I think the defense has a tendency 299 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: to always be ahead of the offense. But I think 300 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: that's a good thing to see in this particular camp 301 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: because there was so much talk about the offense and 302 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: how they're going to be absolutely unstoppable, and we hope 303 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: that that is the case once they start playing against 304 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: other teams, and certainly in September when they open up 305 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: against Tennessee. But you know, overshadowed was the Browns defense, 306 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: which has been rebuilt in many ways, new coordinator, new system, 307 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: key players, and I think it's good to see them 308 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: playing so well so early. I think one of the 309 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: most impressive things has been that front line and how 310 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: they've played. What is stuck out to you when you 311 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: watch them play, Yeah, they are. They're very good, and 312 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: they're very cohesive right away. I mean Sheldon Richardson looking good. 313 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: I can already see the one to punch of Olivier 314 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: Vernon and Miles Garrett. Garrett looks very free. He's lining 315 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: up everywhere, and the stability thing is Vernon on the 316 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: other side whereichever side that's going to be. And I 317 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: think it's gonna fluctuate throughout the year. And I think 318 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: that they're they're having a lot of fun with Garrett, 319 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: and I think he's having a lot of fun and 320 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: that's gonna be important. But I think the front looks 321 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: very good. I think OK and Joe b is just 322 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: a really good player. But I think Sheldon Richardson has 323 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: been a nice, nice ad. And the other thing Jason 324 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: is Sheldon Richardson walked into the same kind of situation 325 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: last year. He went from Seattle to Minnesota. There were 326 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: high expectations for the Vikings that they did not meet 327 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: last year after going to the NFC Championship Game the 328 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: year before. Now he comes to Cleveland where there are 329 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: high expectations coming into this season, and he might keep 330 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: people's feet on the ground. On the defensive secondary front, 331 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: Greedy Williams really making some plays and getting noticed here 332 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: in the first four days. Absolutely and I was kind 333 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: of wondering the night that he was drafted, which was 334 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: the second night of the draft, because they picked in 335 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: the second round. And I remember John Dorsey, UM and 336 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: Freddie getting up there and saying, the thing you're gonna 337 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: be amazed at is how smooth he is. And I'm saying, 338 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: to myself, really, is that good for a cornerback to 339 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: be smooth? But as I watched him, especially the day 340 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: he had the two interceptions, UM, he is very smooth, 341 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: and he's deceiving because it doesn't look like he's gonna 342 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: get there and suddenly he's not only there, but he's 343 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: all over it. Now the red flag on him was 344 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: does he like to stick his nose in there and tackle? 345 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: And that's a wait and see right now. But I 346 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: would think if they open up with multiple defensive backs, 347 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be on the field right away. 348 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: And that's a nice threesome to have out there with 349 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: Mitchell and with Ward and with Greedy Williams on the 350 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: offensive side of the football. Uh We when they've had 351 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: their moments, it's been pretty amazing to watch here. Early 352 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: on there have been moments and on Saturday when things 353 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: were a little choppy and not going well. You could 354 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: see it drew the ire of the young quarterback and Uh, 355 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: and he wanted to finish strong and he did and 356 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: boom he went. He dialed up the guys that he's 357 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: going to dial up at key moments all season long. 358 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: He went to Landry, and he went to Odell Beckham Jr. 359 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: And three plays later there in the end zone and 360 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: barking at a defense that was snarling at them all day. 361 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: I don't see how anybody can defend the slant on 362 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. And Landry for that matter too. But 363 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: I will say this the other guys. Higgins is having 364 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: a great camp, and there are those bubble guys. Derek 365 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: Willie's having an outstanding camp, Ishmael Himan having you know, 366 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: making places callaway you know, really sometimes gets lost in 367 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: the shuffle. But a couple of years ago we would 368 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: come to training camp and they didn't have run one 369 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: wide receiver, and now they've got a dozen on the 370 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: offensive line. Uh. It's been nice to see those guys 371 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: come together a little bit. And it's been the rotation 372 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: at right guard obviously, with Cush getting some time and 373 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: Corbett today. Uh. In pads. Uh, it'll be it continues 374 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: to be an evolving thing. No one really sticking out 375 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: though so far through four no and uh. I talked 376 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: to J. C. Treader after today's practice, the Sunday practice, 377 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: and he said, nobody's won the position yet, nobody's reached 378 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: out and grabbed it. Message to Austin Corbett, it's gotta 379 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: be a little bit more. Gonna have to do a 380 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: little bit more to get it. You just can't be 381 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: handed it because you were drafted high in the second 382 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: round by the team. Here's the thing you gotta remember. 383 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: They moved a very talented guy. Zeitler was a really 384 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: good right guard. So whoever goes in there, that's gonna 385 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: have to be more than just getting the job out 386 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: of default. Kalis is in there, Cush is in there. 387 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: It seems as though Freddie is giving everybody an opportunity 388 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: to win it. The offensive line coach James camp And 389 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: I think knows how to really teach it and he'll 390 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: recognize who's gonna win it. I think what you've been 391 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: most impressed about from Freddie Kitchens through four days that 392 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: he promised that he wanted to make the team tougher 393 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: from even the time when he was the running backs 394 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: coach a year ago, that famous hard Knocks episode. Um, 395 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: and he's he's true to his word. When things aren't 396 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: going well, he uh, you know, he gets it a 397 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: little bit tougher. They're out on the field longer, and 398 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: they stay out until they get accomplished what he wants 399 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: them to get accomplished. So I think if anyone thought 400 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: Freddy's got the great one liners and a magical disposition 401 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: and personality, and I think people are gonna love him. 402 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: But I think with his team, when it's time to 403 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: crack the whip, he does it. Finally, special teams saw 404 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: a couple of rough moments today from the kicking game 405 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: from about forty five fifty yards out. You know what, 406 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: what have you seen from that so far? And clearly 407 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: a position that needs to get a little bit better 408 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: here as we go. Yeah, because it can kill you, 409 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: and it did kill them a number of times last year, 410 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: and definitely in the first three weeks of the season Pittsburgh, 411 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: New Orleans, you know, you know, the game in Oakland 412 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: and things like that. There were games later in the 413 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: year where they got kicked into trouble. Um. I don't 414 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: think either guy, Greg, Joseph Austin Cyberg has definitely not 415 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: Neither one has really taken the job and grabbed it. 416 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if Cyber is putting a lot of pressure 417 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: on himself because he's a fifth round draft choice and 418 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: that raised a lot of eyebrowns when the Browns drafted 419 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: a kicker and in the fifth round. And yeah, he 420 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: had a he had good numbers at Oklahoma, But this 421 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: is different here, and I think that we have to 422 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: forecast that the Browns are gonna be in big games, 423 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: tight games, pressure games, and those games typically come down 424 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: to a kick and you gotta make him. So far, 425 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: neither guy has made enough that you could definitely declare 426 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: one of them the leader in the clubhouse. Thanks to 427 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: Jim Donovan for the time. He'll join us again throughout 428 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: the training camp period on the best podcast available. The 429 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: one thing that stood out, uh from Jim at the 430 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: very end when we talk kickers. I thought it was 431 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: a little disappointing that so far there's not a guy 432 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: that you would say is a leader in the clubhouse 433 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: based on how yesterday and today has gone. Would you 434 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: guys agree with that or disagree with that? I would 435 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: disagree a little bit. Um. Based on the last two days, 436 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: he's right, but I think based on the entire offseason, 437 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: the leader is in Greg Joseph's hands. I mean, he 438 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: had a pretty solid minicamp. Uh, they were mostly kicking 439 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: indoors because of inclement weather. Um, and I think he 440 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: entered this camp with a slight lead, but also having 441 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: to overcome the expectation of a kicker who was drafted 442 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: in the fifth round and how fans would want to 443 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: see that guy on the field or are on the 444 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: team and expect him to make the roster. But so far, 445 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: if it comes to performances from O T A S 446 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: through mini camps through now, I think great Joseph is 447 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: still in the lead, but he hasn't really done himself 448 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: any favors in the last few days. Yeah, I mean 449 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: I would agree with Nick. I just again my amateur 450 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: kicking opinion. I think the balls just coming off his 451 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: foot really well. And I think that you don't like 452 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: the miss from forty five and that that was my 453 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: one concern with him from the previous year. It wasn't 454 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: that he never had enough leg. It was that you 455 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: never knew when when a miss might becoming because he 456 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: had the missed on the extra points and it was 457 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: never a distance thing with him. It was just you 458 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: just wanted to consistency from him. You know. I'd almost 459 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: rather have a kicker that's just automatic from forty in 460 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: and not have to worry about the long ones. As 461 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: long as I'm getting those automatic ones, that's all I 462 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: care about. And I think it's just it's tough. Kickers 463 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: are tough. Like it's like the the the analytics go 464 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: against like highly investing in one, like with draft capital 465 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: everything like that, and then you see teams get snaked 466 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: it when they invest in one big time from a 467 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: salary standpoint. It's it's really of all the positions, it 468 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: seems like there's so much luck involved. Was just getting 469 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: a good kicker, and it's like keeping a good closer 470 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: in baseball. It's hard to find a closer that's good 471 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: for like a stretch of years. It's hard to find 472 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: a kicker in this league that's good for a consistently 473 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: long time. It's just so yeah, goes back, but it's 474 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: such an important position. But it's like the Browns like 475 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 1: hammered away at quarterback until they finally got it right. 476 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: And they've been hammering away at kicker for years now, 477 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: trying different ways, using draft picks, not using draft picks, 478 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: try out guys. I mean, if you try everything, and 479 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: really there is there is more of a method to 480 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: the madness with quarterback odds are if you keep drafting 481 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: one number one, you're gonna get one that works. The kicker, 482 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: there's I don't know if there's any rhyme or reason 483 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: to finding one that works. It's really strange too, because 484 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: I feel like, and maybe this is just revisionist history, 485 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: but I feel like ten fifteen years ago there were 486 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: more reliable kickers in the NFL than we have right now. 487 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: Like I think about a a David Acres, you know, 488 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: a Phil Dawson and Adam vinitarry those kinds of guys. 489 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: And I think part of this issue we have with 490 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: kickers now is by design. When they moved the P 491 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: A T back from you know, the three yard line 492 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: to where it is now, it made that job a 493 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: little bit more difficult because that's not an automatic kick anymore, 494 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: and you have more pressure situations, especially depending on when 495 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,239 Speaker 1: in the game you're kicking that extra point as well 496 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: as making those field goals and I think the Browns 497 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: have been especially unlucky at the kicker position in the 498 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: last three or four years. Zen Gonzalez not working out, 499 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: it was kind of a blow to the whole thing, because, 500 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: you know, he was the best kicker in college football 501 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: when he came out, and until he started last year 502 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: off so poorly, he had a decent shot to actually 503 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: really hold it down. And and then the mishaps you 504 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: know before that as well, the Billy Kundiff's and and 505 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: and those types of players. You know, you've just kind 506 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: of cycled through over and over and over again, and 507 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 1: you hope that this camp produces that guy. But right 508 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: now we don't know who that is. Yeah, all right, 509 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: let's get to some of the sound from earlier today, 510 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: day four of training camp in the books after practice, obviously, 511 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: all the talk the frecas between Farrell Brown and Chad 512 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: Thomas and Larry Yoga Job sounding off when he was asked, 513 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: what's the effect on the team when one guy basically 514 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: screws up and everybody else has to pay for it? 515 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: Same thing like in high school in college, you know, 516 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: you kind of as annoying. You don't want to do 517 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: a bad any day, Like if it happened to you. 518 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: It's the same with you know what I'm saying, and 519 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: as brothers, like sometimes it brother makes a mistake and 520 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: nobody makes a mistake on purpose, but sometimes like you 521 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: get a penalty to whole team page for it. And 522 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: that's just an example of that. So being able to 523 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: just bounce back from it and you have to finish 524 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: practice and still focus and still have a job to do. 525 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: I feel like it's good for the team. You mentioned 526 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: it earlier, Gribble. The players really not too bothered by it. 527 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: It's day four, it's hot. I think the guys, you know, 528 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: temper is starting to run a little bit short here 529 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: and things bubbled over. The disappointing thing I think, and 530 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: probably what Freddie would say is when you blew the 531 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: whistle for the second, third, and fourth time and it 532 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: didn't stop, that's when it became a problem. Yeah, And 533 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting like when Larry says, you know, like that, 534 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: you know, maybe next time it's gonna be me, So 535 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hold over another guy's head. And I 536 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: think that that's that's just the mentality you're gonna get 537 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: with the with the football team. And I think that 538 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: to me. How they responded, Uh, that that's good for me. 539 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: I like that these guys are competitively with each other, 540 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: and I it's good that the there was no sniping 541 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: at each other over that. I mean that that that's 542 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: just good to see. And I'm I'm glad that after 543 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: practice you're not seeing guys mad about the message that 544 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: that Freddy sent, because I think they understand where he's 545 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: coming from. Sometimes I wonder if if it was a 546 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: week and a half later, if you would get a 547 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: little sniping or not. I think it's so earlier that 548 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, you know, it is what it is. 549 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: But I also think it's an example of the culture 550 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: that Freddy has established, because you know, if you think 551 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: about it as a teammate, you're like, man, I gotta 552 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: run these gaster it's just because you couldn't keep it 553 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: your cool and you have. Garrett was super angry, came 554 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: over and hung out on the offensive side. He's like, 555 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: and I'm running because someone else screwed up. Exactly. But 556 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: so from the player's perspective, and let me tell you, 557 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: running gasters with pads and helmet on in the summer, 558 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 1: it's not fun. It's a lot hotter and harder than 559 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: you think, so I can understand that perspective. But it 560 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: was nice for them to come off the field and 561 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: they all displayed a unified front, which is something that's 562 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: been prevalent throughout this organization, especially the last six to 563 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: nine months, which is, you know, Freddy Kitchens and John 564 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: Dorsey are always in lockstep when they're on the podium 565 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: and they're discussing topics. Even if they're not next to 566 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: each other, they're usually on the same page. And it 567 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: seems like these players are on the same page as 568 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: Freddie when it comes to these issues. You know, he 569 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,479 Speaker 1: came out afterward and said, yeah, you know, you made mistakes, 570 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: but he supported his players and said, you know, even 571 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: when they got into that scuffle, they were making each 572 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: other better. And that's kind of what you know, Larry 573 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: said and what Olivia Vernon said, which is, hey, you know, 574 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: we understand that this is part of camp that fights happened, 575 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: and if we got a run for it, you know, 576 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: we deserve to run because we don't need penalties because 577 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: they affect the whole team. That's the biggest point is 578 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: it's not they might have just gotten the fight, but 579 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be affected by these mistakes. The one concern 580 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,959 Speaker 1: I have is those joint practices in Indianapolis, joint practices 581 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: with anybody. At some point someone gets upset that someone 582 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: said something or did something, and that's when things I 583 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: could project to predict who might end up in in 584 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: a fight. I'm trying to remember, though, was in two 585 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen, do we see a much in Tample. 586 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: I don't think we saw many. It was so early 587 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: in the morning, it was, it was not a hundred 588 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: five degrees by the time we got we were done 589 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: by like a level. We saw a few in Buffalo 590 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: in two nothing not was it was pre tame in 591 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteens might have been too many rookies 592 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: on the team. This is also true. Uh. Freddie Kitchens 593 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: was asked, and this is one that we've talked about. 594 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: We talked about it yesterday. What's ahead the offense or 595 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: the defense? Freddie with an interesting way that he viewsed that, 596 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: and he also circles back around to address Pharaoh and 597 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: Chad Thomas. I don't know, we don't we're not human. Score. 598 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: We're trying to play the next play. Um, so you 599 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: would have to tell me the one particular play and 600 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: I'll tell you who won it. But we're not like 601 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: keeping score. We're just trying to get better. We're trying 602 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: to make each other better. And Farrell Brown and and 603 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: uh Chad, we're making each other better now that we've 604 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: got to learn on when we're not going to hurt 605 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: the team. That's it. In response to everything else, Freddie 606 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: doesn't view the all. He expects the offense to be 607 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: at the same pace the defense, and the defense to 608 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: be the same as special teams and special teams the 609 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: same as the offense and vice for they expect Small 610 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: to beaten Lock and step. I don't know if necessarily 611 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: that's realistic or not, but it's a different way of 612 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: looking at things, and it might be a way that 613 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: maybe we should be looking at it. This team is 614 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: going to deal with greater expectations and more eyeballs than 615 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: this franchise has seen in decades this year, Uh and Deaf. 616 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he might go back to the Man's 617 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: l days as being somewhat comparable, but I think it's 618 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: going to exceed that. I think it already has exceeded that, 619 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: and it will and they need to be unified going 620 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: into the season. The only way you do that is 621 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: by getting through these days together. And sometimes you're gonna fight, 622 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: you know, brothers fight with each other when they have 623 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: to share a bedroom. You know, that's just what happens. 624 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, their brothers and 625 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: and that kind of unity needs to be forged during 626 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: this camp as they also figure out how to play 627 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: football effectively. So I think it's just part of it. 628 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: Final one from Jimmy haslum Uh was asked, is there 629 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: a sense of relief when you see how the talent 630 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: has been upgraded here? Yeah, it's fun and they and 631 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: I were talking about this last night, Terry. Listen, We're 632 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: excited for the organization and the players, the coaches, the personnel, everybody. 633 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: Were excited for ourselves, everybody that puts in all the 634 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: time and hard work. But we're most excited. You all 635 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: know the area as well or better than what we do. 636 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: Most excited for the fans, I mean, because they these 637 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: are the greatest sports fans I've ever been around, and 638 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: they deserve to have a really good football team. And 639 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm I'm very very happy for the haslum family. They've 640 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: we've seen. They've gone through a lot since buying this 641 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: football team. Yeah, I mean they've you know, you buy 642 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: the football team and you think you're coming from the 643 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: Steeler way and you're thinking, okay, well this is how 644 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: it works, and you quickly have that realization that it's 645 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: not necessarily that easy, and they've been through some ups 646 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: and downs. The losing has hurt them as much as 647 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: it's hurt you know, every Cleveland fan. It hurt us, 648 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: you know, hurt you from afar in l a watch 649 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: every week. Um, it's just nice to that some good 650 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: things are happening right now and they're getting to see things. Yeah, 651 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: we haven't we haven't done anything. Understand, we have six 652 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: weeks till the season starts. But it's it's nice that 653 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: there's positive, you know, things coming out of this building, 654 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: in this facility for them. I like the Jimmy mentioned 655 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: the the uh the meeting that was had here Wednesday morning, 656 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: made a point to mention that in the press conference 657 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: here about recognizing some of the longest tenured employees, some 658 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: of whom have been here since the franchise came back 659 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: in And I think it's a good thing to let 660 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: media know, you know, they're looking back and appreciating what's 661 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: happened in the past, while also being super excited about 662 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: the future. Uh. And I do think there's understandably from 663 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: g from GM to coach to owner, they're all on 664 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: the same page when when it says this team hasn't 665 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: done anything yet. But I don't get the sense that 666 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: even they are nervous about the expectations, because you'd so 667 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: much rather have these expectations than what has been simmering before. Yeah, 668 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's that's a big, nice positive change. 669 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: So it's not something to be nervous about. Look, I'd 670 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: say this simply, anything in this realm is better than 671 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: having your team lose on Monday Night football because Will 672 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: Hill returned to block kick field goal for a touchdown. Okay, 673 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: I mean that that's where we were at and this 674 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: is where we are now. Okay, that was a night. Yeah, 675 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: that was a night. Hopefully we won't see those nights 676 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: anymore because the upgrades and everything else. So no matter 677 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: the expectation, it's always better than to be in that position. 678 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: All right, Tomorrow, final day before a day off, in 679 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: a well deserved day off for the for the football team. 680 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: Day five, gonna be in pads, gonna be hot again. 681 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna miss the rain. I think it 682 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: looks like the forecast looks good up until we're finished, 683 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: and then you know it's gonna rain basically the entire time. 684 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: We're off until Wednesday when the sun comes back out. So, uh, 685 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: your expect patients for the final day. What do we 686 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: need to see from this football team tomorrow? Will there 687 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: be an added emphasis on things you think tomorrow? And 688 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: I think we heard Freddie Kitchens talk at the beginning 689 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: of camp about facing adversity and creating adversity. This is 690 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: one of those days every year that they coaches try 691 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: to press their team, test them, see how they respond 692 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: to being five days in a row. This is one 693 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: of the rare times. I think it might be one 694 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: of the only times in camp where you're going on 695 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: a fifth day in a row. So I expect them 696 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 1: to be pushed and prodded in a lot of ways tomorrow. 697 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if that is from a physical nature 698 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: a mental nature. They're they're going to be pushed in 699 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: a lot of different ways because you want to get 700 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: the most out of them before that day off, and 701 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: how well do they respond, you know, do they keep 702 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: their composure? And do they perform at the level that 703 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: we've seen because there have been some lalls and I 704 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: think the offense has built it's some pretty positive momentum 705 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,479 Speaker 1: in the last If we had to break it up 706 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: by periods of practice using there's twelve periods or whatever, 707 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: I would say probably nine to ten of the last 708 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,959 Speaker 1: sixteen periods they've built up positive momentums. So can they 709 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: keep that going? Will the defense respond? And can you 710 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: keep it all together as you headed to your break 711 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: or do you lose the mental edge a little bit 712 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: because you know that break is coming? Do you kind 713 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: of slack off a little bit? Do you take a 714 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: player or two off? You can see you with a 715 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: couple of guys today take a player too off? Do 716 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: they do that more often? Do they finish strong as 717 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: they go into their first break at training camp? We 718 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: shall see uh tomorrow day five of training camp, the 719 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: final day before the day off in pads here in Bria. 720 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: We will break it all down for you immediately afterwards. Uh. 721 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: We're working on a player for tomorrow, so hopefully we'll 722 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: have that for you. Some player reaction in person for 723 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: Andrew gribble for Nick Shook. I'm Jason Gibbs. A reminder 724 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: you can get this podcast and downloaded wherever you get 725 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: your podcast, or at Cleveland Browns dot com. This has 726 00:33:48,440 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: been the best podcast available stor