WEBVTT - Things That Aren’t Toxic—Just Uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>Good.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, break it down.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ever have feelings that you just wont Amy

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<v Speaker 1>and Cat gotcha, Cob and Locking No, brother, ladies and folks,

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<v Speaker 1>do you just follow Ann the spirit where it's all

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<v Speaker 1>the real stuff to the chill stuff and the m

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<v Speaker 1>but Swayne, sometimes the best thing you can do it

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<v Speaker 1>just stop you feel things. This is feeling things with

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<v Speaker 1>Amy and Cat.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Tuesday. Welcome to feeling things. I'm Amy and I'm Cat,

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<v Speaker 2>and we both have feelings of the day, and I

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<v Speaker 2>can see in our doc they're very different. I have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea why you're feeling disgusted, but I'm feeling eager.

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<v Speaker 2>You go first.

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<v Speaker 1>I want your feeling today, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know I want to feel eager.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, here you go. I'm gonna twist this frown upside down.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling disgusted because a couple of days ago I

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<v Speaker 1>awoke with what looks to be and you can give

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<v Speaker 1>your feedback on this, but it looks like I have

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<v Speaker 1>a rash on my face. I'm diagnosing myself with dermatitis,

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<v Speaker 1>which from my friend who's an esthetician, is what I've

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<v Speaker 1>gathered is just kind of like an infection of the skin.

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<v Speaker 1>But it can't be that.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, because isn't it hormononal? Yeah? Yeah, I've had dermatitis

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<v Speaker 2>on my back before. I don't know if that's exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what it was called, but I had little teeny tiny

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<v Speaker 2>bombs like that are on your face and I had

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<v Speaker 2>on my back and I use that. Golly, what was

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<v Speaker 2>I got it at? You know, CBS or Walgreens, crapefruit scrub? No, no,

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<v Speaker 2>no packs. So I got a Google pack. I know

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<v Speaker 2>what you're saying, Packsaw, it's the X with X right.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it cleared my back. I mean I was living

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<v Speaker 2>with the bumps for a while and then I got

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<v Speaker 2>a bar of soap of the This what I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to google so I'll be able to tell you what

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<v Speaker 2>it's called. And it cleared right up.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, I wonder if I could use it on my face.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean maybe you could. My dermatologist told me that

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<v Speaker 2>you can use Dan Driff shampoo on your face, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that applies for hormonal bumps.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm taking a new medication that I know. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I don't know, but that's why I'm assuming it's

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing that has changed. And I'm just disgusted

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm frustrated.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm more frustrated than disgusted, because I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>like ooh, I mean I am kind of I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, pan ox, panox soal.

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<v Speaker 1>What is paxl. That's a drug, paxels so much pharmaceutical drug.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the There's lots of different panox sole products. I

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<v Speaker 2>used the bar of soap, probably because that's familiar to me,

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<v Speaker 2>because I love a bar of soap. I love a

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<v Speaker 2>white bar of soap, unscented. This one maybe has a

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<v Speaker 2>scynth though, because it has a job to do. They

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<v Speaker 2>also have a acne banishing body spray. Just get some

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<v Speaker 2>of that sprayed on your face.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything is gonna fix it unless I

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<v Speaker 1>just like, stop taking the medication. But I can't stop

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<v Speaker 1>taking this medication.

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<v Speaker 2>And so well, what we do know is this is temporary. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and while you are feeling disgusted, you don't look just

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<v Speaker 2>in them lighting. Yeah, we do have dim lighting. Cat

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<v Speaker 2>used my guest bath and she came out and she

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<v Speaker 2>was like, whatever kind of lighting you have in the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I need in my office because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm going to be able to sit across from

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<v Speaker 2>from clients because they're gonna think I have some disease.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 2>But how close are you sitting to your client?

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<v Speaker 1>Not that close? And I think that's also I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty bad because it's giving me like flashbacks of

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<v Speaker 1>when I had like acne in high school and I

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<v Speaker 1>had to take acutane, you know, and you like think

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<v Speaker 1>you've recovered from this. And I really like just wearing

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<v Speaker 1>tinted sunscreen. I don't like wearing foundation and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, if honestly, can I be really honest here, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>if you were to put foundation through the bad it

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<v Speaker 2>would look so bad. It looks like it's bumpy, like

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<v Speaker 2>it would look like what are you trying to cover it?

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<v Speaker 2>Just doesn't like, just let it breathe. And also, since

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<v Speaker 2>we're being honest, it's not as bad as you think

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<v Speaker 2>it is. But don't try to over make up it,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think that's that's never doing fairs.

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<v Speaker 1>So Patrick, you saying that, thank you? Pause, pause, pause,

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<v Speaker 1>because Patrick keeps being like, it's really not that bad

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<v Speaker 1>or like to the point where I'm like, Patrick, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're lying to me. You're just He's like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even see it like that far where.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, he might be telling truth because he's got

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<v Speaker 2>ma goggles. He doesn't see what we see.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's true, but I said, you can't just lie

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<v Speaker 1>to me anymore. You have to think of something else

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<v Speaker 1>to say when I'm like frustrated and like complaining about it,

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<v Speaker 1>because sometimes I just look the vent. So now he says,

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm like, oh, my face is so bad, he

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<v Speaker 1>just goes, I love you. It's nothing else to say.

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<v Speaker 2>I am acknowledging that your face feels and looks bad

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<v Speaker 2>to you, which I think I get where guys are

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<v Speaker 2>coming from. Like there's times where I have stuff going

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<v Speaker 2>on with my face and my boyfriend doesn't notice it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's tell the truth. And I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 2>as your friend because I also know that I would

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<v Speaker 2>notice what's going on your face, Like I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to discount I get it you have bumps on your face.

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<v Speaker 2>I am also telling you they don't look as bad

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<v Speaker 2>as you think.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you, But I'm if I walked in and

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say anything, you would notice it.

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<v Speaker 2>It just yeah, but it's not that bad. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>notice it and think like Kat do you have a

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<v Speaker 2>disease or or you know, like what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like I wouldn't. I texted you and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't be alarmed, I'm coming over and I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>makeup lin I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing is, I didn't even see that text

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<v Speaker 2>before you walked in.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I'm doing is image management. I'm like calling

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<v Speaker 1>it out before.

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<v Speaker 2>Just sent a text.

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<v Speaker 1>You walk in said it. Yes, So I do realize

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've.

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<v Speaker 2>Just called image image management. Yeah, well is that a tool.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something that we do when we are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>like get ahead of somebody else thinking something about us.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I'm feeling like really uncomfortable in my clothes

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<v Speaker 1>or something, I can walk in and be like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my jeans are so tight today. So if I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>they look bad on me, then you won't think it first,

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<v Speaker 1>I've already said it. I've got ahead of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you can't hurt me.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's more of a tactic than a tool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sorry, I was thinking like you were like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>what you should be doing, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like negative coping skull. It's the whole idea of

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<v Speaker 1>when you you I mean, this is literally what I've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing when you you're going to hang out with

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<v Speaker 1>friends and you're like, oh, I have this big ZiT

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<v Speaker 1>on my face and then they're like, well, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even going to notice that, but now I see it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? We do it because we

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<v Speaker 1>want to feel better, because we don't want that uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>unknown feeling of people looking at us and thinking it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like me saying, I know what you're thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know it's an unhealthy coping tool and you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't anyway, what should you do? I know, let's do

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<v Speaker 2>this exercise. I'm like, you are gat you're human because

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you were perfect? No, no, no, no, because I

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<v Speaker 2>know I'm guilty of that tactic. Others listening probably are too.

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<v Speaker 2>So what should we do instead? If we had that

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<v Speaker 2>urge to go in and announce our vulnerability out the

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<v Speaker 2>gates so that nobody else can.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what should we do opposite action, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite of what I'm just say nothing, Yeah, so walk

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<v Speaker 1>in and just be like hey, because what happens is

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<v Speaker 1>usually when we do that, we're calling all this negative

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<v Speaker 1>attention to ourselves, where like I could have walked in

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<v Speaker 1>and you could have. I don't know what you would

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<v Speaker 1>have complimented of me today because I kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>like rolled out of bed. But the color of.

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<v Speaker 2>Your sweatshirt looks really pretty on you.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have I could have walked in and you

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<v Speaker 1>could have been like, oh my gosh, I love that sweatshirt.

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't give you the chance to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>so I didn't get to give myself a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>receive a compliment. Instead, we've just been talking about my

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<v Speaker 1>skin for thirty five minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you did dish out compliments. You were like, your

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<v Speaker 2>skin looks so good, and I'm like, you're just saying

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<v Speaker 2>that right now. We can feel your skin looks so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I told you, it looks like what I say,

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<v Speaker 1>baby skin.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, it feels a little rough to me because

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<v Speaker 2>I started my what's it called again, retinal my retinal again,

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<v Speaker 2>so then I kind of had to exfoliate, So I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's what's happening. Retnel doesn't burn. No, I use

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<v Speaker 2>a very mild one from BIOPELP, but it's I'm now

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<v Speaker 2>putting it back into my routine, but I do it

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<v Speaker 2>every other night. Even though it's mild. My skin is

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<v Speaker 2>so sensitive that I'm slowly building every other night, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's already flaking off. Thank you, pospospous for that compliment.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you were also like, and your hair looks

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<v Speaker 2>really good. And then I was like, oh, it's so dirty,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to wash it, and you go, don't wash it.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks good.

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<v Speaker 1>So you did a little bit of like, uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't take the compliment because my hair I don't field

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna wash it today, but now will you

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<v Speaker 1>gave me a little booze? Do not wash it? You're

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<v Speaker 1>having a really good hair day, which makes me think

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<v Speaker 1>of like, are you robbing yourself of good hair days

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<v Speaker 1>by washing your hair when it looks like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's not so much what it's looking like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>what I smell.

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<v Speaker 1>Why smell?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Wash it?

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<v Speaker 2>The ends of it smell okay, But I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>my roots get a little stinky, like something. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like maybe making time get you some

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<v Speaker 1>like root freshening spray.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. So you're feeling disgusted, well,

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<v Speaker 2>and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Vow to Okay, this is gonna be so hard to

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<v Speaker 1>me because for me, because the people that I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see today are all people I'm really close with. But

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<v Speaker 1>I want to challenge myself to do opposite action today,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm gonna see my mom later. She already knows

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<v Speaker 1>about this on my face, so I'm gonna try not

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<v Speaker 1>to say anything. No need If she brings it up, though,

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<v Speaker 1>then I give myself full permission to be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so frustrated.

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<v Speaker 2>That's okay to want to vent, but you there's no

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<v Speaker 2>need for you to upon arrival.

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<v Speaker 1>To be like, look and now I've told you your

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<v Speaker 1>face and then at work, clearly that's gonna be easy

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<v Speaker 1>for me. I'm not gonna open the door to my

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<v Speaker 1>clients and be like, Okay, don't be alarmed. I know

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<v Speaker 1>I have breakouts. I would never do that, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>not as much of a challenge. So today I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>challenge myself to not do any image manage.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like open the door and run back to your

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<v Speaker 2>chair and then tell them you're playing a fun game

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<v Speaker 2>where they're going to face the wall today. It's called

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<v Speaker 2>face the wall work.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also so traumatizing.

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<v Speaker 2>You've to sit in the corner and face the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, speaking of I know I talked about this last week.

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<v Speaker 1>I finished the Jody Hildebrandt documentary. Yeah, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I do want to recommend it to

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<v Speaker 1>people because I think it's a good warning of just

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<v Speaker 1>the like I said last time, the power of manipulation

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<v Speaker 1>and all that, but evil, evil, evil, And I believe

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<v Speaker 1>in the power of forgiveness and change and transformation and

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<v Speaker 1>all that. But I don't think there's their sentence scene

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<v Speaker 1>was as bad as it should have been. Do you know,

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<v Speaker 1>are you familiar with the story.

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<v Speaker 2>I am familiar with the story, but I've not watched

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<v Speaker 2>the documentary. It's like, honest, I remember watching something on

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<v Speaker 2>Ruby Frankie Okay, I cried Franky or frank Frankie Franky Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll serve four to thirty years in prison, so.

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<v Speaker 2>People are interested in watching it. The Jody Hildebrandt's story

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<v Speaker 2>is on Netflix, and yeah, it says that it highlights

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<v Speaker 2>her role as a mastermind behind the abuse, tracing her

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<v Speaker 2>rise to power in her community and her twisted teachings.

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<v Speaker 1>Golly, yeah, it's sick the things that they're doing to but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like how people like that even rise in a community.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it shows the progression, which I think that is

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<v Speaker 1>I think the helpful part of like, you don't just

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<v Speaker 1>jump into it, because when people would be like that

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<v Speaker 1>lady's crazy, it was a slow progression where she controlled

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<v Speaker 1>people and like ruin people's lives and those kids are

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<v Speaker 1>going to have that trauma for the rest of their lives,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's changed their life in a bad way. Yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me about the eagerness you're feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>Bring us up a little bit, right, This is definitely

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<v Speaker 2>gonna bring you up totally different. Okay, we're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>A one eighty.

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<v Speaker 2>I ordered a new bird feeder and it arrived today.

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<v Speaker 2>You're back into the birds. Well, they never left me,

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<v Speaker 2>but I realized I put some bird feeders up around

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<v Speaker 2>my house. But I moved into my new house a

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<v Speaker 2>year and a half ago. I used to have a

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<v Speaker 2>bird feeder at my last house that was right by

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<v Speaker 2>my kitchen table window. And here the way my home

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<v Speaker 2>is set up, where my porches and my bird feeders

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<v Speaker 2>are out in the yard, I have to be sitting

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<v Speaker 2>on the screened porch to see the birds, and the

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<v Speaker 2>screen porch is still cold, so I can't be like

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<v Speaker 2>at my kitchen window and looking out and seeing the birds.

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<v Speaker 2>They're in my yard, so I see them, but they're far.

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<v Speaker 2>So I found a solution. I was sitting at my

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<v Speaker 2>kitchen table and I looked over this window that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of tucked. It's window right by my kitchen table, right

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<v Speaker 2>where my laundry room door is. The window there, though,

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<v Speaker 2>is behind bushes and trees like in my front landscaping. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the perfect place. But a suction cup birdhouse onto

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<v Speaker 2>the window because you won't I wouldn't want I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why, but I wouldn't want that on my front window.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're pulling up to my house. But because this

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<v Speaker 2>is disguised by bushes, you don't really see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you can't see that window, not really, it's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of hidden. I don't think it's weird that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want a bird feeder section cup to the front window

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<v Speaker 1>of your house. Okay, that's normal.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you, well, but just in case anybody has that,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, you do you like? That's okay, But for

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<v Speaker 2>me that would be off because I would be like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I need well on every window because I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>look well. So I had this revelation and I go

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<v Speaker 2>on Amazon and I find the suction cup bird feeder

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<v Speaker 2>and it has arrived. So I'm so eager to get

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<v Speaker 2>done with my work and a few other things that

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<v Speaker 2>I need to do today and I get to open

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<v Speaker 2>up that package because I also ordered new bird seed,

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<v Speaker 2>so I got a fresh bag of bird seed and

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<v Speaker 2>a new feeder. I'm in a suction to the outside

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<v Speaker 2>of that window, and the birds they're gonna come, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna come right to my window.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So like I don't have to be on on the

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<v Speaker 2>screen porch and I can be sitting at my kitchen

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<v Speaker 2>table and the birds can come visit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And do you have your little I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you used to have this laminated sheet with it was

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<v Speaker 1>a book of like all these different birds.

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<v Speaker 2>My bird book is out on my screen.

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<v Speaker 1>Porch or is it bird bingo or something?

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<v Speaker 2>I would just play, Yeah, I would play bird Bingo.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have that anymore. I mean, I suppose it's somewhere,

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<v Speaker 2>but maybe with my new feeder, I need to bust

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<v Speaker 2>out a new round because I'm gonna have new visitors

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<v Speaker 2>to that feeder and I'll be like, hey, cardinal check,

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<v Speaker 2>chickad eat check.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the most day check? Rare bird that you had

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<v Speaker 1>coming to your bird feeder before.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they weren't rare. I mean I would get

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<v Speaker 2>excited if I could like name them and you would see.

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<v Speaker 2>I love seeing a tufted titmouse. I knew you were

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<v Speaker 2>going to say that that's my favorite. You know, A

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<v Speaker 2>blue jay never came to my feeter till my dad died.

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<v Speaker 2>No way way I had cardinals had morning, lots of

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<v Speaker 2>mourning doves. Does doves come in pairs?

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<v Speaker 1>It's cute? Oh that is cute. I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>does a a hummingbird? Does that have a different bird food? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay. You're looking at me like.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's not like I don't know what you call it,

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<v Speaker 2>like a nectar, so I don't. I tried to be

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<v Speaker 2>a hummingbird person, but I wasn't good at changing out

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<v Speaker 2>the liquid stuff. And they'll come to that, but they

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<v Speaker 2>don't come to my bird feeder. Do you know the

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<v Speaker 2>only bird that can fly backwards is yeah? Did you

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<v Speaker 2>know that?

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe you've told me that fact before.

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<v Speaker 2>Fun fact. I'm very eager. I'm very, very very very

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<v Speaker 2>eager to set this up, like I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna change everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And should I get a bird feeder? Maybe would change

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<v Speaker 1>how I feel about my faith?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, because you get to see the the wonders of

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<v Speaker 2>the world of clothes. Wait, you're at awe, you're not.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you get to know them, especially if

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<v Speaker 2>cards visit and they have certain features at times I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember the exact way, like is it called molting?

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<v Speaker 2>It's the shedding of their feathers. But cardinals, to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I started to be able to tell them apart in

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<v Speaker 2>like their feather display and their shape.

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<v Speaker 1>So would the same cardinal come back to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, and I'd be like, oh, there he is,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would like give them little nicknames. And then

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<v Speaker 2>of course the male cardinals are red and the female

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<v Speaker 2>cardinals are brown.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's crazy. I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But my mom doesn't identify.

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<v Speaker 1>She's gender fluid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fluid.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I don't think i'd be a very good

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<v Speaker 1>bird birding birder, what do you call them? Bird burden.

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<v Speaker 1>So in our neighborhood there's two little pond lake things

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<v Speaker 1>like fishing lakes in the front when you come in

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<v Speaker 1>this certain entry, and there's two swans in each lake.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was getting to be cold, and and Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>one day we're like, when do you think those swans

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna like fly home or fly south or do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they do in the winter because cold, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>still in the water. And we had lived there for

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<v Speaker 1>maybe four months. Those swans were fake? Which have you

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<v Speaker 1>seen them? You might not have noticed them, because I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to know if you thought that, if you

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<v Speaker 1>thought they were real. And there's two in each one,

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<v Speaker 1>and we always like, it's so cute. They're always together,

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<v Speaker 1>and there wasn't that same text they must love it there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>At my last house I had a pool and the

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<v Speaker 2>ducks would come.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that that was crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It was crazy and they were just swim in my pool.

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<v Speaker 1>But wouldn't it didn't bother you, right, I know it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't bother me.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>But what if you wanted to enjoy the pool, but

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<v Speaker 1>then the ducks were in the pond? The pool, it's theirs.

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<v Speaker 2>Their polls. Now they do they like poop in it

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<v Speaker 2>though that would be the annoying part. They don't poop

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<v Speaker 2>in it. They would poop around.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't think they were pooping in it. If they did.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't tell, but they would. You know, around my

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<v Speaker 2>pool there would be more droppings than I care to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with. But it's not like they were there all

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<v Speaker 2>the times. When they would come, I'd be like, welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>That was crazy, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I really enjoyed that. That was that was great. I

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<v Speaker 2>had a birfect time Peter and a pond that they

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<v Speaker 2>would come to. So I just loved my visitors. Now, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the Disney character as it? That's like in

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<v Speaker 1>the woods and all white, snow white? You are snow white.

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<v Speaker 1>You literally are not anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm about to be maybe a little more. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like some of that is coming back. Well, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're your animals follow you.

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<v Speaker 1>Around everywhere they do.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, whatever room I go to, my dog and

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<v Speaker 2>my cats show up, it's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah snowy oh cute.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that brings me comfort. Yeah, I'm grateful for them,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. It brings me joy. Car used to annoy

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<v Speaker 2>me so much, remember, yeah, and now we've gotten better.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes she still annoys you, Yeah, but that's just because

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<v Speaker 2>she's kind of an annoying dog. But I love her

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<v Speaker 2>so much now, Like I love her like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to live without her. When you say to be

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<v Speaker 2>a really.

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<v Speaker 1>Dog, what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was just she just wants to be just

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit crazy now. But she used to be

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<v Speaker 2>at my last house. And I think it was because

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<v Speaker 2>of all the other toxic things going on. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>a new listener, you may not know. I don't speak

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<v Speaker 2>about the details. Those are private, but there was just

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<v Speaker 2>a lot happening, and she carried that as the dog.

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<v Speaker 2>So she had a lot of anxiety and she's a

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<v Speaker 2>rescue and she has her own drama and it was

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<v Speaker 2>too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, speaking of toxic things, I found an article.

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<v Speaker 1>When I say article, I mean instagram infographic about things

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<v Speaker 1>that are not toxic, just uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, I trust me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking what you were good going through is like

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<v Speaker 1>my toxicity was toxic?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess I don't even know what what you

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<v Speaker 2>would call it.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have had an unh some unhealthy dynamics. I

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<v Speaker 1>would say they're toxic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you go, unhealthy dynamics, that's it. And there was

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<v Speaker 2>multiple players.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like a really fun video. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>please make this game stop, and it does. Yeah, it did.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think toxic is one of those words

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<v Speaker 1>now that it's thrown around way too much, and we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of use it as an excuse to either not

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<v Speaker 1>look at our own stuff or not sit with discomfort

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<v Speaker 1>or not. And that could be just the discomfort of

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that this is the way the world is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, right, So I just go through them and

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<v Speaker 1>you can tell me if any feelings show up. And

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<v Speaker 1>this comes from therapy for women. At therapy for women, someone.

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<v Speaker 2>Disagreeing with you, right, that's uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>Not toxic, just uncomfortable, which I feel like that's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times, and it's not so simple. It's not like, oh,

0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:20.400
<v Speaker 1>she said that this hamburger wasn't good. It's if somebody

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<v Speaker 1>disagrees with you about a behavior or decision you made

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, or you're disagreeing with them, they

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<v Speaker 1>have a different idea of what they need to do.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of times we're like, oh, they're just being

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<v Speaker 1>toxic or they're so toxic I need to cut them

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<v Speaker 1>out of my life. And it's like, well, I just

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<v Speaker 1>think sometimes we need to leave space for some differences,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's okay that they think that what you did

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<v Speaker 1>was probably not the right decision, you can still think

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>My boyfriend and I were having a conversation with another

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<v Speaker 2>couple just a couple of days ago. Actually it's very recent,

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<v Speaker 2>and I woke up kind of even thinking about it,

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<v Speaker 2>like thinking if I was a toxic person, that I

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<v Speaker 2>would have maybe in that conversation because we weren't agreeing.

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<v Speaker 2>I could have like I stared at them like they're crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>and then shut it down, like when we got in

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<v Speaker 2>the car, I could be like, we're not hanging out

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<v Speaker 2>with them anymore. But I'm proud of myself. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do it, But I don't know why I woke up

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<v Speaker 2>with that thought. And maybe it was like a hint

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<v Speaker 2>of like maybe we shouldn't hang out with them, But

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<v Speaker 2>I was proud of us for being able to have

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<v Speaker 2>a difficult conversation and everybody, you know, five minutes later

0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:24.719
<v Speaker 2>laughing about something else. We definitely did not agree. What

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<v Speaker 2>I did was I said I don't agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for you. That's not how I see it's healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they're like, oh, well, this is one of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite things about this person. Da da da, And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's not how I see that at all,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a yeah, it was a healthy, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess disagreement. I didn't know you were going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this, But when I'm thinking about it, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a little uncomfortable, but not terribly. But it is weird

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<v Speaker 2>that I woke up this morning having that thought of, like,

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<v Speaker 2>there were probably some people that would have been that

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<v Speaker 2>situation and they would have just like cut it off.

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<v Speaker 2>I cut the relationship off because of just how black

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<v Speaker 2>and why so many things seem lately, especially in the

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<v Speaker 2>like the political landscape and oh yeah, how people are

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<v Speaker 2>just so my way or the highway. Like if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't think like I do, well, you're you know.

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<v Speaker 1>You're toxic, yeah, or you're bad or And I think

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<v Speaker 1>there are things that you can feel really strongly about

0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:20.000
<v Speaker 1>and you can have like deal breakers for yourself. Sure

0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 1>that's okay, but not everything has to be a deal breaker,

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<v Speaker 1>And we need to learn how to sit in myself included,

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Like I think I'm part of this because it's easier

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<v Speaker 1>to be like, oh, I don't want to deal with

0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:31.359
<v Speaker 1>that anymore, so I'm just not going to have a

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:34.840
<v Speaker 1>relationship with them, versus like sit with the fact that like, yeah,

0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:37.200
<v Speaker 1>these people might believe this, and that's hard for me

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<v Speaker 1>to comprehend. But I think that even goes into we

0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:43.520
<v Speaker 1>talked about the drama triangle a couple weeks back, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a month, that was in December. I think if you

0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:48.520
<v Speaker 1>haven't listened to that episode, I highly recommend it. Part

0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:52.159
<v Speaker 1>of the drama triangle is to lower expectations and create boundaries.

0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:55.159
<v Speaker 1>And I can just create boundaries around those things, and

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<v Speaker 1>so when I no longer have that conversation, like if

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<v Speaker 1>it's about something political, for instance, I don't talk about

0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:04.280
<v Speaker 1>politics with that person, and then I can start to

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<v Speaker 1>see the other things that I still might find redeeming

0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 1>about them. And again, this is all nuanced, So I'm

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 1>sure there are plenty of reasons why you would want

0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 1>to cut a relationship, relationship up, a relationship off with someone.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it's we're just saying, like, not every time

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<v Speaker 1>somebody disagrees with you, are they toxic people? It just

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes is difficult to sit with right proud of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thanks, I mean, I wasn't sharing it free to

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<v Speaker 2>be proud of me at all, but I will take it, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because I guess when I think about it, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>we did handle that well yeah, huh, okay, yeah, now

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<v Speaker 2>it happened. If it happens again, they're done.

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Two strikes, they're out. Second one is being asked to compromise.

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<v Speaker 1>Not toxic, just uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, if someone's asking you to compromise, how

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<v Speaker 2>would that ever be perceived as toxic?

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<v Speaker 1>If they're asking you to give something up unclearly yeah,

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:04.040
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, I can't believe they would ask me

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<v Speaker 1>of that. I mean, this is spectrum of ways that

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<v Speaker 1>this would show up. It's not just like hey, like,

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<v Speaker 1>can we meet at five thirty in set of five?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't think anybody is sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking like the compromises, like okay, if you don't

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:20.640
<v Speaker 2>want salmon for dinner, and maybe you don't want beef,

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<v Speaker 2>can we meet in the middle on chicken?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that could be like a exam. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know an exact example of this, but more grand scheme

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 1>that would be more like straight with somebody, like you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing some business decision and like I don't see it

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<v Speaker 1>the way you see it, so I'm asking you to

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<v Speaker 1>meet me in the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>Or it's like you're having a compromise your integrity though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that would be toxic. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>that might not even well if they're I think that

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<v Speaker 1>this is where it gets nuanced, because you might have

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 1>different ideas of integrity. And if it's somebody's like, hey,

0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:57.400
<v Speaker 1>we should steal from this person, that's the one thing.

0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:00.879
<v Speaker 1>But if they just like are great the line of

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 1>something that isn't that big of a deal, they might

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<v Speaker 1>not be toxic. You might just have like way stronger morals.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean that they're toxic. And that sounds bad.

0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel like when I even say, but there's levels

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<v Speaker 1>of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I get what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, feeling guilty when you hurt somebody isn't toxic. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just uncomfortable. And the alem me explain this one, because

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:28.359
<v Speaker 1>I see you're a little confused. I think sometimes when

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<v Speaker 1>people hurt somebody's feelings, they are like, I don't need

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:35.879
<v Speaker 1>to feel guilt because I did what is right. Like

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:37.879
<v Speaker 1>I had to stick up for myself. It's that whole

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<v Speaker 1>like if it's not a hell, yes, it's a no,

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<v Speaker 1>or that like very strong black and white of I

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<v Speaker 1>have to start self caring for myself and then I

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 1>leave people out. So we talk ourselves out of feeling guilty.

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 1>So this one is saying like, it's okay for you

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 1>to feel guilty if you hurt somebody's feelings, that's not toxic.

0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 1>It's okay to feel that. Because I think lady, we've

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>been studying, we the world has been setting the message

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 1>of like you don't have to feel bad for that,

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 1>and like it's actually okay to have some guilt.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good, okay, yeah.

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Because if we hurt somebody these feelings, it's okay to

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 1>be like, yeah, I didn't like that. I do feel

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>a little bit guilty of that.

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's feel stuff around that. Yeah it should feel uncomfortable.

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it should feel uncomfortable. Because then what happens is

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>like there is again it's a nuance. It's a fine line.

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 1>There are things that like I'll sit with a client

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 1>and they'll be like they'll say, like, I feel so guilty,

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:34.440
<v Speaker 1>and I'll ask them, well, tell me what you did wrong.

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Guilt is helping you, like stay in your moral compass,

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Like it's helping you do the right thing, So tell

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:43.200
<v Speaker 1>me what you did wrong. And sometimes they can identify

0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 1>something like okay, well that makes sense. It sounds like

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>in that scenario, there wasn't a way for you to

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 1>get what you needed and also not hurt anybody in

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:54.919
<v Speaker 1>the process. So like, maybe there is a repair you

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 1>might want to make, who knows, And also you might

0:27:57.560 --> 0:27:59.199
<v Speaker 1>want to give yourself grace because you were putting a

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 1>hard position. But then there's also people who are like,

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I did this thing, and I'm not going to feel

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 1>bad about it because xyz, even if they stepped on

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 1>people's what is it step on their toes or they yeah,

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 1>hurt people in the process. And I think that is

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 1>our way of trying to reconcile, getting your needs met

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:23.119
<v Speaker 1>and also not having to have feelings. Does that make sense?

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Back to the if it's not a hell yes,

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 2>it's a no. How do you feel about that?

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Hate it?

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 2>You hate it?

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>When at first first people will started saying that, I

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 1>was like, heck, yeah, that was in like peak hustle culture.

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of the twenty sixteen you know, it's been a

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>thing lately of reminiscing on twenty sixteen. I feel like

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>that's when that got really big around that time.

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 2>If it's not a hell yes, it's a no.

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:48.959
<v Speaker 1>It was a girl boss all of that, And I

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 1>think that is black and white.

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there's so much great. I feel like sometimes

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 2>I would try to apply that and I'd be like, but,

0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 2>like I've probably said, like but I don't really know

0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 2>for sure, like is.

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>It a but I kind of want to do it?

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And then I'm like, but I guess if it's

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 2>not a definite clear yes. Now I understand some things

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 2>like if you need to make a quick decision, that

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 2>could be a quick method you use of like if

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 2>you're making me make up my mind right now and

0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm only like a little bit in then okay, I'm out.

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think it was that was intended. See, we

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>just take everything too far. That was intended to help

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 1>people say no, because it was really targeted towards women,

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot.

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what about this one? No is a complete sentence?

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, another one that I used to love and now

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I feel torn on because sometimes explanations are needed, sometimes

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>they're not. The intention I think behind that was so

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>people didn't feel like they had to over explain themselves.

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 1>But if you asked me a question, name something that

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.479
<v Speaker 1>you would ask me for, Like, I don't know what

0:29:58.520 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 1>do you need from me?

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 2>While I'm trying to think of how serious do we

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 2>want to make it?

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, if you ask, if you text me and you're like,

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, my car it broke down on the

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 1>side of the road. I'm gonna be late for work.

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Can you come pick me up? And I just said no,

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I just n period sent it to you.

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would be that was aggressive. That would just

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 2>be weird, Like we don't talk like that, Okay, But

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that that's what it's for, right, Like

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 2>what if it were?

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 1>But I think that's the point is it's intended for this,

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 1>and then we've used it for all these other we

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 1>exaggerate to make us less uncomfortable about doing that.

0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, here's one where I think maybe it applies more.

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 2>I love the car example, but that's just like not

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 2>like you would never be like no, But if someone

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 2>was trying to protect their personal peace and maybe they

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 2>had a lot going on and they didn't have the

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 2>bandwidth for somebody else's drama, and maybe I call you

0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 2>and you know that I have something dramatic going on,

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, or I text you to give you

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 2>a heads up, like, hey, do you have time to

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 2>talk today about like this just happens drive me crazy,

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 2>and then you, knowing where you are with your mental

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 2>health for this day, you're like, I really don't have

0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 2>the capacity for her drama today, so you just replied

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 2>that no again. But that's to protect your peace, I know,

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 2>But I feel like someone that might be a case

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 2>where someone might be like, I don't need to explain myself.

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I just don't have time for them today.

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>No.

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 2>But then that is weird because I would want you

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 2>to say. What I would really appreciate from you is, Hey,

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I know you're going through a lot, and I would

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 2>love to work through this with you. I don't have

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 2>the bandwidth for it today, but maybe tomorrow.

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you're using that like the phrase like it knows

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>a complete sentence. I think it's supposed is supposed to

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>and like the Grand scheme of things help people say

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:48.240
<v Speaker 1>sentences like you said not just say an oh, it's

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 1>been taken to literally if that makes sense, Like that

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 1>was just me saying no, because if you did ask

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 1>me that, I would be like, oh, I can't today,

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>but here's another day x y Z. And some people

0:31:57.320 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>could even say like I don't have the time today.

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry, Like what but just me being like, oh,

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 1>my therapist said knows a complete sentence, so I should

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>practice doing that, and me just saying n O period

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 1>to you, you would probably be like that was harsh.

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>What's going on with her? And like whoops? And so

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:17.479
<v Speaker 1>it's not clear. I don't think that that's clear. And

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 1>you've taught me like being clear as kind? Or is

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 1>it Brene Brown that taught you that?

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, I don't know who originally said it.

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure a lot of people say it, but my

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 2>mentor of sorts, you know, her name's Alex. Yeah, she

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 2>has drilled into me clear ast kind. Also I got

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 2>it from Janet way back in the day therapy. No

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 2>clear is kind? Unclear is unkind? Okay, A lot of

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 2>people in the recovery space too, you hear.

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 1>It a lot.

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 2>So SIT's bro, it's a good reminder.

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 1>So no complete can be a complete sentence. And that's

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>not the sentence that we use. When we use it exactly,

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't sound as good and instagram graphic. I think

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>that's part of the problem there.

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So what else isn't toxic? Just uncomfy?

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Someone expressing disappointment, Like if somebody shares with you that

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 1>they're like disappointed in something or it could be something

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 1>you did, it could be something whatever. They're not being toxic.

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 1>It's okay to do that.

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 2>It's just uncomfortable.

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to hear it, just hear that. Yeah. Now again,

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>this is all nuanced. So there's levels of this, and

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:32.240
<v Speaker 1>the last one is conflict that leads to growth. So

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 1>any conflict that leads to growth most likely is not

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 1>going to be toxic to be healthy, conflict that leads

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>to growth versus disruption and destruction.

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:49.120
<v Speaker 2>I will say too, like, certain things are uncomfortable. This

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 2>isn't profound, like nothing, Like what's she going to say?

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna be like, well, yeah, duh. But it's helpful

0:33:56.840 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 2>to consider in your thoughts when pondering comfort. Things are

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 2>uncomfortable until they're not.

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, funny because you set it up. But I know

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:16.280
<v Speaker 1>that is a good pension.

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 2>My My point is, when I'm looking back over the

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:24.320
<v Speaker 2>last five or six years, some stuff that used to

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 2>be so uncomfortable for me isn't uncomfortable anymore because I

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 2>leaned into the uncomfort. I got comfortable with the uncomfortable too.

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:41.920
<v Speaker 2>So now new situations, circumstances arise and you have to

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 2>navigate those waters. And now I'm just picturing like a

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 2>bicep lifting like a dumb bell, like but because I exercised,

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Like it's this picture a dumbell that's like says uncomfortable,

0:34:57.680 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like lifting it like the more I lift it,

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:04.840
<v Speaker 2>the easier it gets, and so it's not uncomfortable anymore.

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 2>Like over time, not in that same overtime. No, Like

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking like some of the stuff maybe took two

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 2>years or and I'm talking about in ways of how

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 2>you communicate, in ways of how you operate in relationships,

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 2>of how you handle something toxic or uncomfortable. But because

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 2>you exercise that that muscle, like, the more we avoid,

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 2>because then that's you never face the uncomfortable, so you

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 2>don't learn how to lift it. Yeah, now you've follow it.

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 1>No, I love what you're saying.

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 2>It was just your setup that really got me. You've

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 2>never pictured a dumb bell that says uncomfortable, never use that,

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 2>but who knows I might use that? Now? Be like

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:52.400
<v Speaker 2>picture it. You're at the gym and you go over

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 2>to the weight rack and you pick up the dumb

0:35:54.719 --> 0:36:00.120
<v Speaker 2>bell that says uncomfortable. You know because like one day, Oh,

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:02.239
<v Speaker 2>I was at the gym with my boyfriend the other

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 2>day and we were doing what's the bench an incline bench,

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:10.800
<v Speaker 2>and I was doing chest presses, yeah, like on an incline.

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 2>And I've seen and read from many experts in perimenopause

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 2>that perimenopausal women need to be lifting to exertion, like

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 2>by the eight rep it should be very very difficult,

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 2>like maybe eight is your max. And you know, a

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:32.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of time, like I grew up in a lifting

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 2>weights of like three sets of fifteen, you know, and

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 2>then you just kind of do it, and it's you know,

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:40.000
<v Speaker 2>by the time you get fifteen, it's hard but whatever.

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:42.439
<v Speaker 2>But we're talking like by the time you're doing eight,

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 2>it's like I can barely right. So my boyfriend is

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 2>even spotting me because I normally lift like five or

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:52.879
<v Speaker 2>ten pounds, but he I got twenty five pound dumbbells

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 2>in each arm.

0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:55.479
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 2>But I mean he was there so that if it

0:36:57.280 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 2>fell like or if I, yeah, like I buckled and

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 2>like dropped it, I would be fine. But I told

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 2>him I wanted to practice maxing out and I could

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 2>only make it to eight, and then we set him down,

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 2>and then I tried it again and I made it,

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Like I think by the third time, I started to

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:15.399
<v Speaker 2>trust myself a little more and I made it to nine.

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:18.919
<v Speaker 2>But I know next time we go back, I'll be

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 2>more comfortable to be like, OK, yeah, let's get the

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 2>twenty five, because when he first bought me the twenty five,

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I was like, stop, no, let's try twenty He's like, no, no, no,

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 2>let's try this. But I'll be more inclined to lay

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 2>down and be like, yeah, give me the twenty fives

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 2>because I know I can do it, And then fast

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 2>forward maybe two or three more gym visits, and I'd

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:37.880
<v Speaker 2>be like, get the thirties.

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:40.319
<v Speaker 1>And even the confidence that I can even see like

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:41.760
<v Speaker 1>happening after your time story.

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:46.400
<v Speaker 2>So when something uncomfortable happens, my point is you're ready

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 2>for it. Yeah, and you're gonna be like this isn't

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna be easy to lift, but I know I can

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 2>do it. Well.

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 1>It's what you're saying too, is like the only way

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 1>through is through.

0:37:56.840 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Don't get me through us through? Yeah, and the you know,

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:03.320
<v Speaker 2>like I said a couple of minutes ago, at the beginning,

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 2>things are uncomfortable, are uncomfortable till they're not.

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 1>You heard it here first Ladies and Gentlemen.

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Quoter what was I don't even remember the exact quote,

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:16.279
<v Speaker 2>but it's like things are uncomfortable until they're not.

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:20.080
<v Speaker 1>That literally, the thing was sweet. Nobody's ever probably said

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 1>that before either, so you can really I'm kidding. I'm sorry.

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 1>That was kind of mean. You got excited.

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Well you're toxic, okay, So so that ends that segment. Yeah,

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:42.359
<v Speaker 2>so things that aren't toxic just uncomfortable.

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 1>And this is not an exhausted list, obviously, it's just

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 1>this one little thing I found online that I liked

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 1>good reminders.

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:03.839
<v Speaker 2>So I made protein balls the other night that were

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:06.239
<v Speaker 2>not good at all, and my boyfriend had to say, like,

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 2>this isn't your best work. But I had to improvise

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 2>because I didn't have everything, and you know, I typically

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 2>if I'm putting protein powder in them, it's unflavored. Way, well,

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I was out, so I'm unflavored. So I used a vanilla.

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 1>That's where you went wrong.

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 2>It went so wrong, and then I thought, well, i'll

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:26.799
<v Speaker 2>fix this. I'll add a little milk ew I know,

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 2>wait's I don't know, I don't know it needed. I

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 2>just thought, well, I'm just gonna go rogue from the

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 2>recipe and just like try something different and create it.

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:41.840
<v Speaker 2>And then it was like mushballs and they eventually hardened.

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Did you eat them or did you throw them out? Yeah?

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 2>When you saw me eating one earlier, that was one

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 2>of them. I'm not going to waste it.

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, you're really good at not wasting.

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:53.879
<v Speaker 2>Food, thank you. So wasn't my best work at all.

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 2>And I had to take that feedback from him, like

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't being toxic. Though. It was uncomfortable because I

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:01.640
<v Speaker 2>was like, well, shoot, dang, I didn't like hearing it.

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, and did you kind of like know though? Yeah?

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:05.839
<v Speaker 2>I kind of like knew, but I mean I didn't

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:07.839
<v Speaker 2>think they were like terrible. But he was just like, oh,

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 2>it's not your best work.

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it would be a little bit harder for you

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>to hear that probably if you're like, oh my gosh,

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:14.879
<v Speaker 1>these are so good taste someone.

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 2>He was like, oh, oh yeah, that would be difficult

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 2>and said I knew I went rogue. I said, well,

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I had improvise and this is what we got, so

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:28.359
<v Speaker 2>take it or leave it, buddy. So then last night

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:30.840
<v Speaker 2>I was at his house and he had all the

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 2>ingredients for the balls minus protein powders, so these aren't

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 2>protein balls. We just made balls and he had everything else.

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, okay, do it your way. So I

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 2>pull up the Feeling Things podcast, like, I go to that.

0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Do you ever do that? Like? I literally go to

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:48.319
<v Speaker 2>our cooking made post so many times. I know, but

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:49.920
<v Speaker 2>I just didn't after my mishap.

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't like, I can't take any chance.

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:55.759
<v Speaker 2>I didn't trust myself. So I went to on our

0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Instagram page and I went to the cooking video of

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:00.360
<v Speaker 2>the first time we made the protein balls, and I

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:02.319
<v Speaker 2>was like verbat him and I had measuring cups out

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:05.319
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, we're not messing these up. Well, he

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 2>doesn't like chocolate chips, which is something we put in there.

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:10.839
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't like them. He'll pick them out.

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he doesn't like the flavor.

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't like chocolate speaking of bumps. He's like it

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:18.880
<v Speaker 2>breaks me out. And I'm like one chocolate chip and

0:41:18.880 --> 0:41:22.439
<v Speaker 2>he's like, well there's not one, there's like half a cup.

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Does he like the flavor of chocolate? Not really, he

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 2>just doesn't. He's like, I've never been someone habit and

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 2>trust me. He's like, if I when I have chocolate,

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:32.439
<v Speaker 2>I my skin is different. So it's like, I don't

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:32.920
<v Speaker 2>mess with it.

0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:35.880
<v Speaker 1>You think that my bumps. I'm just kidding.

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Is it chocolate?

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:41.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it. Wait, that is so interesting. I

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 1>feel like you don't meet that many people that like

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 1>don't like love chocolate.

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he does not love chocolkay, so I said, And

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 2>he did have chocolate chips. I mean he has kids.

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, do you want me to not

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 2>put in the chocolate chips? I said, but I feel

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:55.719
<v Speaker 2>like it's going to miss something because, like to me,

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 2>the chocolate chips yes, a little crunch. And he's like, well,

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I have rice crisps like Cereal. Why are you?

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:07.080
<v Speaker 1>At first, I was thinking, right.

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:10.439
<v Speaker 2>Well, the degree the brand specifically, because I will say

0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:14.240
<v Speaker 2>the puff in these is nice. The brand is one degree.

0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 2>I looked at the box. One degree maybe brown rice puffs?

0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:20.239
<v Speaker 2>He said he got them at Whole Foods, but I'm

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 2>sure you could get them at public Sir Kroger, I

0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 2>don't know. And HB shout out from a Texas listeners

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 2>and let me tell you, we didn't put chocolate chips.

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:33.800
<v Speaker 2>We put the brown rice crisppuff ball thingies so good.

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:35.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm imagining that being good.

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, game changer. You could even add it with

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 2>the chocolate.

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Can I still have the chocolate ships?

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I think I have rice cake.

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:47.799
<v Speaker 1>So i'magining it just like adds a little bit more

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:49.280
<v Speaker 1>like airy crunched.

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:50.799
<v Speaker 2>And airy crunch is a good way to put it.

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:53.279
<v Speaker 2>And let me tell you, as soon as I get

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm out of ingredients at my house. But now that

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:57.040
<v Speaker 2>I've made this at his, and I got to go

0:42:57.080 --> 0:43:00.279
<v Speaker 2>get my own box of one degree and I got

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:02.360
<v Speaker 2>to get some unflavored way because I like having the

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 2>protein in them. I'm making these with the chocolate chips

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:09.840
<v Speaker 2>and the puffs and it's it's like our recipe elevator.

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 2>It's the twenty twenty six version. I cannot wait.

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 1>I have a question about this though, because do you

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>need to add more wet ingredients in.

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 2>There so they stay together? No?

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh really nope, because sometimes mine are a little dry,

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:26.120
<v Speaker 1>so I add a little extra honey or peanut butter.

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 1>So this was still okay.

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 2>How much of the of it did you use? Like

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 2>a cup did not measure? Because I just was like, oh, well,

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm just adding it in for an extra crunch. So

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:37.360
<v Speaker 2>I just sprinkled it. So I have to get a

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 2>measurement if people want that, But I think you could

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:43.400
<v Speaker 2>just like sprinkle to you'll till you're content. Okay, so

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 2>do you sort of like with the chocolate chips, I

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:48.320
<v Speaker 2>think we have a measurement on our recipe.

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 1>But like something you too much, too much?

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:52.840
<v Speaker 2>I agree, sometimes it's too much, so you could do less,

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 2>just add as you go, figure out what works for you.

0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:58.680
<v Speaker 2>And I gotta say, this is one of those things

0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 2>that was born out of maybe some uncomfortableness because I

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 2>had to go through the crappy balls and and my

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:09.839
<v Speaker 2>boyfriend say like, oh, not your best work to then

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 2>the next night me wanting to prove myself at his

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 2>house to be like I got you. I know last

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 2>night they were pretty bad, but I can do this

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to make you some good balls.

0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 1>And I did it, and I did it, but it

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:25.919
<v Speaker 1>life was forever change.

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 2>But I probably wouldn't have made them. Yeah, So like

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:30.120
<v Speaker 2>also look at it that way when you're going through

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 2>something uncomfortable.

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:34.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's giving you the push you need what to

0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 1>get to you?

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:36.319
<v Speaker 2>What is going to come from it.

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, what does this make possible? Better balls? Better balls?

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 2>Crunch your crunch your bone.

0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Crunch your balls. So that was a game changer.

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 2>I want to try that. Yeah, I'm loving I'm loving

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 2>those balls. In fact, I'm going to go over to

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:54.759
<v Speaker 2>my boyfriend's house today and there's going to be some

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 2>left and I can't wait to eat one since I

0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:59.359
<v Speaker 2>don't have the ingredients at my house yet. So I'm

0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 2>going to be eating more those today and I'm going

0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:07.960
<v Speaker 2>to be finishing book Lovers. Finishing, Yeah, let me finishing it.

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 1>When did you start it.

0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Two days ago? Maybe when I right when I finished Nightingale?

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I picked it right up, which is quite the difference

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:23.640
<v Speaker 2>because Nightingale, uh was obviously historical fiction, very heavy, like

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:27.359
<v Speaker 2>I was crying, and so I was happy to roll

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:31.960
<v Speaker 2>into something lighter, and I decided to make my first

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Emily Henry read Book Lovers.

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Can you give us a summary of what it's about?

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:39.359
<v Speaker 1>Because the title doesn't really make me want to read it?

0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, it's two people. They love books crazy, and

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:50.480
<v Speaker 2>so they're one is a book editor and one as

0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:51.960
<v Speaker 2>a book a literary agent.

0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:54.319
<v Speaker 1>Are they women as one a man?

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Are they one as a man and one as a woman.

0:45:57.120 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh, the book Lovers Love is multi dimensional there, Yeah,

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 1>isn't it? Okay?

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 2>But it's I'm like, really cute. Oh and there's a

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 2>cute sister of relationship happening. Okay, I like also in

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:15.640
<v Speaker 2>The Nightingale there was a sister relationship. Well, define it's cute.

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's different. I was gonna say I like her

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 1>books because they're easy read. So that's what sounds like.

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:22.360
<v Speaker 1>That was easy read, like you're you're almost done with this?

0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Although Nightingale I appreciated the font on the book

0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 2>was a little bit bigger. So switching from that to

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Book Lovers, the book is smaller. And I need my

0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:39.120
<v Speaker 2>reading glasses. I need reading classes. I got mine by

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:41.400
<v Speaker 2>prescription and then I lost them, and I've been so

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 2>upset about them because they were expensive that I've refused

0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:47.879
<v Speaker 2>to get new ones because I keep hoping i'll find them.

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:51.719
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I don't. I think maybe if they are

0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:54.319
<v Speaker 1>glasses that help you see.

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:56.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I can see. I can still see.

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:59.480
<v Speaker 1>If you're straining to read, I think that makes your

0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:00.319
<v Speaker 1>eyesight worse.

0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Right, Really, it's not like a muscle. I'm not exercising it.

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 1>No, I think it's straining makes your eyesight worse.

0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh. I feel like if you start to use glasses

0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 2>too soon before you need it, you become too dependent

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:15.600
<v Speaker 2>and you weaken your eye. Did I just make that up?

0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 2>At least that's what I'm hope.

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know either. I was just hoping for that

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 2>being the case, you know.

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. I think if you need glasses,

0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:29.879
<v Speaker 1>the best solution is like to wear them, get them

0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and wear them.

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Get them and wear them. What are you reading?

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:36.440
<v Speaker 1>So? Well? I put this book in the newsletter last week,

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 1>but I've been reading. I'm on a Kristin Hannah kick,

0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 1>which is who wrote The Nightingale. But I'm saving The

0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:43.839
<v Speaker 1>Nightingale because I want to read that, and I listen

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 1>to all my books. So what's going to happen is

0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably never going to read The Nightingale.

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:51.319
<v Speaker 2>No, you have to. I know it might be my

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:53.640
<v Speaker 2>favorite book ever, and I know I just finished it.

0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:56.720
<v Speaker 2>But okay, it catapulted its first place.

0:47:56.880 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, her my favorite book is one of her books.

0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:00.839
<v Speaker 1>It was It's the Winter and the one that I

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:02.360
<v Speaker 1>months ago talked about.

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's what I need to read next.

0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:08.400
<v Speaker 1>It's so good. But I'm reading listening to Four Wins,

0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 1>which is about the Great Depression and the dust Bowl

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:15.560
<v Speaker 1>and people moving to California for jobs and then the

0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:19.520
<v Speaker 1>startup unions. Sounds so boring if you would have told

0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:23.319
<v Speaker 1>me that. Oh literally, when it was done, I was

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:25.360
<v Speaker 1>upset that there wasn't more of it, like I wanted

0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:28.279
<v Speaker 1>to keep going. Very good and you learn. That's the

0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 1>best part about historical fiction is you learn. Yeah, and

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:33.800
<v Speaker 1>I love learning.

0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:38.799
<v Speaker 2>You know us learn learn, learn, which I sent you

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:42.440
<v Speaker 2>something to teach you something about cars and humans. We

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:46.719
<v Speaker 2>can end on that. It was an Instagram video that

0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:50.799
<v Speaker 2>popped up of doctor Matt Townsend. He was doing looks

0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:53.839
<v Speaker 2>like a podcast interview with somebody, and he looked like.

0:48:53.800 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 1>The sweetest he did little man.

0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:58.279
<v Speaker 2>At first, I was like, is he real?

0:48:58.440 --> 0:48:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Is this ai?

0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:02.200
<v Speaker 2>Like everything, I'm questioning everything, But he's I googled him.

0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:06.960
<v Speaker 2>He's real. He's got a PhD. And he was talking

0:49:07.120 --> 0:49:14.280
<v Speaker 2>about highly sensitive people. But he broke us into two categories.

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Humans put humans in two categories, Like you're either a

0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Chevy or a Ferrari, Right, is that what he said?

0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Both are good cars. Both are great cars. It's not

0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:27.120
<v Speaker 2>about that it's about horsepower. It's not about that it's

0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:30.560
<v Speaker 2>a good car or not. It's that Ferraris. I don't

0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:33.400
<v Speaker 2>know how many times faster, but he described highly sensitive

0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:42.440
<v Speaker 2>people as being four times more sensitive to stimuli, smell, circumstances,

0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:46.520
<v Speaker 2>emotional events, news, probably anything in the world. So that's

0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:48.799
<v Speaker 2>more of like the Ferrari. So just for the sake

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:51.040
<v Speaker 2>of the story, it's probably does to have four times

0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 2>the horsepower. I don't know, but Ferraris are these people,

0:49:56.880 --> 0:49:58.880
<v Speaker 2>and it made me think of you. And I was like,

0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:01.200
<v Speaker 2>I think CAP might be a Ferrari, And so I

0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:03.520
<v Speaker 2>send it to Kat and she was like, Okay, I

0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:04.799
<v Speaker 2>think I am a little bit Like I don't think

0:50:04.800 --> 0:50:06.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm a Chevy, but I don't think I'm a Ferrari.

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:10.200
<v Speaker 2>So then I googled what's in between and a lower

0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:11.160
<v Speaker 2>end Porsche.

0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Which I don't love that it says lower end. Can

0:50:14.280 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I just be a Porsche?

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:18.759
<v Speaker 2>Well, because there's certain Porsches, I guess Porsches, but do

0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:19.520
<v Speaker 2>you know Porsches.

0:50:19.560 --> 0:50:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Porsche, Yeah, you said it that way earlier feels elevated.

0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:30.960
<v Speaker 2>So certain Porsches have more horsepower, like a super high

0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:32.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm on the lower end.

0:50:32.880 --> 0:50:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm still high, and again the Chevy's still good.

0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:38.560
<v Speaker 1>But I think also the information he was giving was

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:41.040
<v Speaker 1>to help people understand that these people have so many

0:50:41.040 --> 0:50:45.080
<v Speaker 1>gifts to be more sensitive in that word sensitive not

0:50:45.239 --> 0:50:47.399
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be negative. They have so many more gifts

0:50:47.440 --> 0:50:49.920
<v Speaker 1>where they can attune to things differently, and they can

0:50:49.960 --> 0:50:52.920
<v Speaker 1>prepare differently and all of that. But the problem is

0:50:53.000 --> 0:50:54.960
<v Speaker 1>when you aren't aware of that, it's easy to get

0:50:54.960 --> 0:50:57.400
<v Speaker 1>off track, and it's easy for all the stimuli to

0:50:58.000 --> 0:51:00.200
<v Speaker 1>get you off the track versus help you get where

0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:03.080
<v Speaker 1>you need to go faster. Yeah, you just said it

0:51:03.120 --> 0:51:04.040
<v Speaker 1>in different words. Yeah.

0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:06.080
<v Speaker 2>He was talking about how a Ferrari on a track

0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:09.959
<v Speaker 2>is awesome, like it's doing its thing and it's gonna win.

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:12.399
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you take it off the track and it's

0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:13.280
<v Speaker 2>a little disaster.

0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:16.840
<v Speaker 2>So make sure if you're a highly sensitive person, you

0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:20.160
<v Speaker 2>get on track, get it together, keep it together, be aware,

0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:22.600
<v Speaker 2>be aware where the track is, be aware where the

0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 2>track is. Yeah.

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so where would you what would you be?

0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Because yeah, I don't think that you're I'm not a Ferrari,

0:51:29.080 --> 0:51:30.359
<v Speaker 2>but I don't think I'm a Chevy either.

0:51:30.520 --> 0:51:32.319
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think you're at my level. Like I

0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:34.080
<v Speaker 1>think I'm a little more sensitive than you, not in

0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:35.360
<v Speaker 1>a I'm better than you.

0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I think it's true a chill than yeah, like you

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:43.400
<v Speaker 2>have to get to the airport like five hours early,

0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:46.880
<v Speaker 2>or like parking the other night we went to dinner

0:51:46.920 --> 0:51:48.320
<v Speaker 2>and you were like, I have to hang up the phone.

0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:52.280
<v Speaker 2>That's parking lot stressing me out. And then your husband

0:51:52.400 --> 0:51:54.200
<v Speaker 2>is like he got there before you, and you got

0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:55.920
<v Speaker 2>a really good parking spot on the street, and he

0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:58.000
<v Speaker 2>even knows how you are, so he texted me and

0:51:58.080 --> 0:51:59.799
<v Speaker 2>was like, hey, do you want my parking spot, because

0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:01.880
<v Speaker 2>he knew that just giving you that spot would like

0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:03.879
<v Speaker 2>then ease your mind.

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:06.239
<v Speaker 1>It was too stressful for me to switch and park

0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:08.560
<v Speaker 1>into that spot because it was parallel, so I ended

0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:11.040
<v Speaker 1>up parking in a big parking lot. He walked over

0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:13.600
<v Speaker 1>in the rain to my car, got in the driver's seat,

0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:14.799
<v Speaker 1>and then parked my car for me.

0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:16.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh, and it.

0:52:16.200 --> 0:52:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Was raining and it was dark, and I have a

0:52:18.640 --> 0:52:20.600
<v Speaker 1>stigmatism and I can't see at night very well.

0:52:20.760 --> 0:52:28.560
<v Speaker 2>Right to you being highly sensitive, it's just it's just

0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:31.120
<v Speaker 2>one of the things I see you too, as like

0:52:31.280 --> 0:52:36.400
<v Speaker 2>very intuitive and like I thank you. I trust your gut.

0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:40.960
<v Speaker 1>You're more like flow a lot of times.

0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:45.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, but I just so organized my silverware precisely,

0:52:46.040 --> 0:52:48.439
<v Speaker 2>oh very in a very precise way.

0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:51.279
<v Speaker 1>When I got here today, I brought my oatmeal, but

0:52:51.280 --> 0:52:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have a spoon, and so I opened her

0:52:54.600 --> 0:52:56.839
<v Speaker 1>silver ward war and I just feel like I looked

0:52:56.840 --> 0:53:01.040
<v Speaker 1>at you blankly and was like, that's gone on in

0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:06.800
<v Speaker 1>this drawer because every spoon and fork is perfectly set

0:53:06.840 --> 0:53:09.560
<v Speaker 1>on top of the next, and they even look pristine

0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:09.920
<v Speaker 1>like there.

0:53:10.160 --> 0:53:12.440
<v Speaker 2>And it's the way I stack them up and down

0:53:12.840 --> 0:53:15.160
<v Speaker 2>like I have a method. Oh yeah, it's I don't

0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:17.160
<v Speaker 2>know what it is, but I love when I'm unliving

0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:22.560
<v Speaker 2>the dishwasher. I'm like, and one, I don't know that

0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:25.480
<v Speaker 2>that's when your porch comes out. Maybe I'm like, I

0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:28.200
<v Speaker 2>wish you would show up in other things because there's

0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:29.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of stuff. I don't need to be that

0:53:30.440 --> 0:53:34.640
<v Speaker 2>organized at all. But that's a drawer that I take

0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:35.400
<v Speaker 2>a lot of pride in it.

0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that drawer. It honestly, that dor calmed me

0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:39.440
<v Speaker 1>down a little bit.

0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Really Yeah, okay, good, happy I could do that. Okay,

0:53:43.239 --> 0:53:46.640
<v Speaker 2>So just be aware where are you on the sensitivity

0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:49.279
<v Speaker 2>scale and know when you're off track.

0:53:49.560 --> 0:53:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah cool, because.

0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:52.520
<v Speaker 2>When you're off track, then get wet.

0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah another quote by anyone.

0:53:55.960 --> 0:53:58.839
<v Speaker 2>All right, well, thank you for listening. We appreciate you

0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:02.759
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0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:07.080
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0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:11.040
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0:54:11.080 --> 0:54:12.719
<v Speaker 2>And we hope wherever you are, you are having the

0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:13.279
<v Speaker 2>day you.

0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Need to have. Bye.