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Speaker 1: I've been grinding in all my life. Hello, welcome to

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Speaker 1: another edition of Club Sha Shay. I am your whole

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Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proprietor of Club Sha Shade,

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Speaker 1: and today's episode is sponsored by Oikos. And the guy

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Speaker 1: that's stopping by for conversation he doesn't drink and water today.

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Speaker 1: Is a six time pro bowler. He's a name four

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Speaker 1: In two thousand and six, he was voted the number

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Speaker 1: short lived because the fifteenth will be Jamar Chase, a

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Speaker 1: member of the ten thousand yard Receiving Club. Chad Ocho Sinko.

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Speaker 1: I like that. That is a great introduction. A matter

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Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. I like that. I

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Speaker 1: in and ready, Oh yes, still coming in. Thank you Dougie,

422
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 1: you know. And so life is good because I was

423
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,919
Speaker 1: able to sustain and keep most of my wealth that

424
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 1: I made when I was playing. And life is still

425
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 1: gonna go. So I allow the kids didn't enjoy, but

426
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: I needed to understand they're gonna come to time. They

427
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 1: gotta get out day pay roll, and you had to

428
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 1: get off that pay roll. But for right now, I

429
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 1: will always be for be there for them no matter

430
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: what they want. As long as you don't try to

431
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,479
Speaker 1: live a lifestyle that you know you can't afford, right,

432
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 1: you can't, you can't. You can't do that. I'm gonna

433
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 1: let you enjoy yourself now, right You you went for

434
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 1: viral for wearing the same outfit on the trip. Yeah,

435
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: because I think I heard you pack you with you.

436
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 1: Maybe it was soccer and you packed like three outfits

437
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,120
Speaker 1: and you're there for like two weeks. That's it. That's

438
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 1: all you need, like a couple of pair of draws

439
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 1: as a couple of T shirts and a pair of

440
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 1: short I took all blended family, right. We all went

441
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 1: to the Bahamas for New Years. Okay, So the kids,

442
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 1: I know, they like to look nice, you know, the

443
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 1: young kids these days. Man, Okay, we're gonna all go

444
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 1: to a mirror. So I took all the kids to mirry,

445
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 1: all of'em. Everybody got outfit, everybody got shoes. I got

446
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 1: my loud fit price tag twenty three thousand, twenty three thousand. Member,

447
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 1: it's eight of us. Now, marry ain't marry ain't cheap

448
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 1: all Look, so what did they put back? Ain't put

449
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 1: nothing back? This is the one time thing. It's a holidays. Yeah,

450
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 1: twenty three thousand, So boom, okay, I understood what. I

451
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 1: just paid for all this stuff for the kids. So

452
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a good time when we stayed at Atlantis.

453
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: I ain't take that in marry off the whole trip.

454
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 1: I took me a shower. I took me a shower.

455
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: He stayed, changed underwear, put a new tank top on,

456
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: and put that shit right back home. You know what

457
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 1: I paid for this. I don't care who's seen me,

458
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: So I made my own personal video letting people know

459
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna see me over and over in the

460
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: same outfit. Let me give you under let me you

461
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: understand why. And I always do that all the time.

462
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 1: I shop at eight and M. Look this, this whole

463
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 1: outfit this called me sixty dollars. It's urban Outfitters, and

464
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: it's from the say I rat. It's a Levi and

465
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 1: jacket in some dickies that's cut off. Like I'm a skateboarder.

466
00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 1: I don't skate. I don't skate, but I look good. Yeah,

467
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: So that's your that's your whole thing. And I've always

468
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: been this way, so you can't the people on the

469
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: outside that might be new to who I am now

470
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 1: that little older don't understand. I've been this way to

471
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 1: pass twenty twenty five years. So you're not gonna let

472
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: society shape singles out who he is or what he

473
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 1: should be. Never never, I never never been that way

474
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: because I don't need validation from nobody on the outside.

475
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: Never have and that's another validation, you straight validation that's

476
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: there were good and some of the time I didn't

477
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: make fun of me, So validation from me, you know.

478
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: But that's another downfall for us, right, that's another downfall

479
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: in society. We always need validation, acceptance from others. I'm

480
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,479
Speaker 1: watching you and I see a lot of time when

481
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: you go to restaurants, you leave enormous amount of twas,

482
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: you'll lose five, you'll leave five hundred, you leave thousand,

483
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: two thousand dollars. Always when did that start? Why that started?

484
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: When I'm when I made it? When I made it,

485
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: probably my rookie year. Obviously I didn't have social media

486
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: in the earlier times right back then. But society we

487
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: are monkey see monkey do. Every time there's a trend

488
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: on TikTok, what does everybody else try to do? Try

489
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: to do that cover that trend, same thing, so that

490
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: that that message And I always say Proverbs eleven twenty

491
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 1: five behind every message when I lead the tips to

492
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: get other people doing it. Other athletes have started doing

493
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: it as well. People are around different states have started

494
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: doing it as well. Because if there's a trend, y'all

495
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: need to pick up on that's the one. And being

496
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: able to give back to to you know, to your

497
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: your workers and those environments who aren't paid at times

498
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: livable ways, and and that that's just one of the

499
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: things I always do. You get a meal, the meal

500
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: costs for your blended family. Let's just say it costs

501
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty bucks. You go ten times, fifteen

502
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: times over with the meal. Actually cast that person comes

503
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: up and you hug you probably is crying. What does

504
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: that do for ojo? I know, whatever it is they

505
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: got going on becomes a little bit easier because I

506
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: don't know everybody's story, right, but I understand the places

507
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm going and where they work that they're not being

508
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: paid a livable wage. So I'm trying to give them

509
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: some breathing room every time I step out anywhere I go,

510
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: and I don't dine if I start restaurants, right, you know,

511
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: that's that's that's not me. That's not what I do

512
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: right now. At times when me and the missus want

513
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: to go up and have somewhere nice, then I have

514
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: to up the annie on the tip. That's where you

515
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: see the two thousands sometimes, you know, But that's it's

516
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: just always been something I've always done, and people are lucky.

517
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: I don't have the type of wealth like a Jeff

518
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: Bezos or Elon Musk like that because I didn't add

519
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: what listen, I'd be adding an extra zero, but I listen.

520
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 1: I haven't been blessed to that point yet. Maybe one

521
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: day it might come. It's coming. Did you really bet

522
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 1: the entire World Cup? Same? I did. I'm the best

523
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: people of player in the world, and that you're going

524
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: up the cool kid. I did that, did that yesterday.

525
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: I went eleven and three, eleven three. When I went

526
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: eleven and three, three people one but they were there

527
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: were the rest the rest they lost. I did it

528
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: all the time. I mean, everybody knows I'm a huge gamer,

529
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: always been a huge game, and I think that's one

530
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: of the things that have also kept me out of

531
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: trouble and keeping me out the streets. I never I

532
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: don't club, I don't go out. I don't drink, so

533
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: my feel that void of what everyone else enjoys doing

534
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 1: that time is spent gaming. You've never been a club, nah,

535
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: because I don't only even drink alcohol, And then being

536
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: around people that do drink, they start talking and they

537
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 1: hold five conversations in one and then I'm lost because

538
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: you talk about one thing. Now you talking about something

539
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: and I can't. I can't do it. Then you can't.

540
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: Don't step on my shoes. Don't step on my shoes,

541
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: and I'm not standing on couches holding bottles. You know

542
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: much alcohol costs? Yeah, I mean the mark up what

543
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 1: I'm doing? Yeah, what if commissioned the day'll let you

544
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: went to the rookie symposium and let you talk and

545
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: the two he needs to let me, Well, hopefully they're

546
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: watching this. I needed to got Rodger'll speed out. I

547
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: got the most speed out. I need to do that

548
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: about financial literacy. But the problem is it's gonna go

549
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: in one ear and out the other, especially at age,

550
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: just like me coming going to talk to kids, and

551
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: that's getting in il deals. You got everybody in your ear.

552
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: You don't know who to tell no too. You got

553
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: all these investment people. Do you have any horror horror

554
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: stories there are about NFL players that invest in companies.

555
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: I mean, who's same boat just going through an issue

556
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: two up or seven? I saw that going out of

557
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: his account because the investment Listen, the best investment person

558
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: is yourself. Do your homework. You don't need all these

559
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: people because if if they knew, name one investment person

560
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: as in a position it is rich. How are you

561
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: gonna take me what to do our money? And you

562
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: haven't made it yet? To give me an example on

563
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: what I should do? Nah, man, I don't I don't

564
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: like that. I don't like that we put it. We

565
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: put our money in too many people's hands and you

566
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. You say you interned at

567
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: Morgan Stanley, was it was it of the utmost important

568
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: that you go understand you knew what money was. But

569
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: now that I have it, how do I keep it? Yeah?

570
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: And that's what I always tell guys. It's not how

571
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: much you're making it how much? And the funny part

572
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: about it is people social media. Well, if I spend

573
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: this bag, I'm just gonna make it back. Ain't like

574
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: you think people they think the cure and the problem

575
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: that fixed for the problem is will give me more money.

576
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be all right. But the more you make,

577
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: the more you spend. If you had no discipline and

578
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: no structure, yes, absolutely every time, yes, every time, Well

579
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: just give me more and more. No, the more you get,

580
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: the more you're gonna spend and people ain't gonna listen

581
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: because we are caught up in looking a certain way,

582
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: living a certain way, trying to appease others who don't

583
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: really care nothing about you, just to say oh I

584
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: got it, Wow, well shit, I got it two and

585
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: it had it for almost thirty years. So has that?

586
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: Is that in us? Or is that social media? Because

587
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: I look at social media, I'm like, what damn, that's

588
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: might need to give me another job or two because

589
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 1: how he like she got listen. We can't compete with

590
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: people that's scamming and doing froll. Okay, we can't do that.

591
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: You can't. We can't. We can't do that. I can't

592
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: do that. Now. There are very few people that can

593
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: sustain that lifestyle consistently over time because normally people that's

594
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: making it legally and doing the right thing, they don't

595
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,239
Speaker 1: post it on social media. No, you know, you know

596
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: how hard it is to live like that all the

597
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: time consistently and be fly every day, dreary and listen

598
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: aras of rappers. Think about the era before before us,

599
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: everybody was flashy, stunned and stunned, and after ten years,

600
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: what happens you can't. It's impossible to sustain. It's impossible.

601
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: I would like private. I need to get me out.

602
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make enough money. I can apply fly private.

603
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: I ain't flying private. Spirit, Douggie, what I fly, Douggie.

604
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: Put me on Spirit exit row window seat. That's all

605
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: I need as long as I get from point A

606
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: the point B. I don't need Private. I wanted. It's

607
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,959
Speaker 1: I just want to Let's get you some football right now.

608
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: I need the top five receivers. Ain't got to be

609
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: new order, right, I'm gonna I'm gonna give you an order. Okay, Okay,

610
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you order. I love I love these dudes. Okay.

611
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: I love these dudes, and they don't get the credit

612
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: and deserved because this is uh, this league loves what's new. Right,

613
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: So my number one Adams okay, my two two, A

614
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: two B Stefan dig Keenan Allen Okay, Keenan doesn't get

615
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: the credit he deserves. So that's interchangeable based on what

616
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: you like. Three route runners, Yeah, I see where you

617
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: going with what I'm going with this now, those are

618
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: my preference. Now, people at home, when you watch this,

619
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: you can take those three and you can make it interchangeable.

620
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: What we don't like to do is I'm giving credit

621
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: to those who've done it for an extended period of

622
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: time consistently. Right, then let's go to the young boys. Okay,

623
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: Chase Jefferson, Like, where do we go? You know, they've

624
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: been consistent short period of time, but they put up numbers,

625
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: obviously Chase breaking breaking my record in the season season

626
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: of yards and Chase, I mean, jeff Jefferson is doing

627
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: some things oh uncanny, you know, surpassing Randy Moss. There

628
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: are others that are so worthy. But you said top five.

629
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna forget you all all you fellas in

630
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: the league that's young. I'm watching you, I watch all

631
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: of you. But that's just my five for now. Okay,

632
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: So if I said who is the best receiver right now,

633
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: right now, right now, that's not fair because that that's hard.

634
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: How do you say who's the best? I don't know.

635
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's I know I am, but it's interchangeable

636
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: and it changes week to week. Okay, you know you

637
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: got a J Brown, Javante Smith, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Uh,

638
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: you got DJ you got all the general manager Deebo Samuels,

639
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: You de general manager, right, you gotta pick one receiver

640
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: to go start your team with. You take it young

641
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: or just any receiver, any receiver you won't can I

642
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: do to two players one. I'm going to Vonte Adams

643
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: simply because I can do whatever I want with him,

644
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: regardless of what you put in front of him, coming

645
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: to fifty five man and man double, it doesn't matter.

646
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: He can win off the muscle and as a coordinator.

647
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: As a coordinator, he makes my life easy. I don't

648
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: have to condense splits. I don't have to put him

649
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: in motion. I can line him up like Marvin Harrison,

650
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith. Can you get open from me? As a quarterback,

651
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: I can close my eyes, HiPE the ball, and no,

652
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna be where he's supposed to be because it's

653
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: ability to create separation and get over. No. I could talk.

654
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: I could talk one. Okay, give me your guys under

655
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: twenty five. Give me your guys under twenty five. Devonte

656
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: is a little older. Yeah, see how ya see how

657
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: y'all do us. Let's see how y'all do us? See

658
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: a little older? Yeah, but he's still he's still that dog.

659
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: Matter Yeah, because he can be in the slot, you

660
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: can put him out wide, put him in motion, and

661
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: he can win off the muscle man. He got moves,

662
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase Okay, Justin Jefferson Okay, Terry mclauren MC mclauren,

663
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: AJ Goddamn Brown. Yeah, Davante Smith, I'm missing something. I'm

664
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: missing something. You got Ceedee Lamb, you got Medcalf, DK Metcalf.

665
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:28,479
Speaker 1: There's one more Dotson. Okay, you like the kid out

666
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: of Washington. Yeah, Dots along with mclaureny. They got a

667
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: nice combo. Now they can get some consistent quarterback player

668
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: over there. They can make some noise. They make a

669
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: noise already, but I mean consistently like the rest of

670
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: the teams. When you watch these receivers on Sunday, Who's

671
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: Who's o your sinker? Who reminds you of yourself? Nobody? Nobody,

672
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: because they just they played the game. I left out Tyreek.

673
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, you know left you say that because everybody

674
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: you playing a favorite, you'll be making up ties of

675
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: dynamic dynam He changed the dynamic of any offense regards

676
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: to gree you go. So he's definitely he's in a

677
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: category of his own. But there isn't there's no ocho

678
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: because I played the game and had fun. But I

679
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 1: also added the the dynamic of entertain the entertainment value

680
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: to it, and that's hard. I don't think anybody can

681
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: play with that pressure, right, you know, I added pressure

682
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: purposely to entertain those watching. Whether I was playing home

683
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: in a way, right that Wednesday was my day, is

684
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: my day to create bulletin board material for the opposing team.

685
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: I want you upset, but you know, but but you

686
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,479
Speaker 1: also knew by doing this, I gotta be on my game.

687
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: It forced me to be on my game, and I

688
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: enjoyed it, and I liked that. How would you feel

689
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: if you're DeVante and the quarterback that you went to

690
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: go play? One of the reasons why you went there

691
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: is because he's your quarterback from college and y'all have chemistry. Yes,

692
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: I'd be upset, and then all of a sudden, you

693
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: see the direction that they're going in, I'd be upset.

694
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: I'd be upset, and I would I would wonder what

695
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 1: his management gonna do. Maybe Aaron Rodgers is going there

696
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: or Brady because that's the old that's the old offensive coordinator.

697
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: It is but Brad that that's a good one. That's

698
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: a good one. And he still had a good He

699
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: still had a good year even with the quarterback carrousel. Yes,

700
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 1: do you believe Devonte should have stayed in Green Bay?

701
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: Are you surprised that he left? Considering green Bay had

702
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: more money? He had to leave. Aaron took the whole

703
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: god damn part it was it had they had more

704
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: money in green Bay? The okay man got Damn Aaron

705
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: Rodgers taking a fifty million a year, Yeah, fifty million year.

706
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: What you gonna pay? What you're gonna pay Devonte, he

707
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: deserves to be the highest paid in the game. Can't

708
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: do that. And if he really cared about his player,

709
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: you'd do he'd do what Brady did. Brady took a

710
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: team friendly deal. He'd be able to build around the team,

711
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: right they I mean Aaron is different. They say take

712
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: the money when it's available. But he didn't do that.

713
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: If I took Ocho Sinko his rookie season, and I say, Okay,

714
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you Aaron Rodgers, I'll give you Tom Brady,

715
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: I'll give you Peyton Manning, I'll give you Patrick Mahomes.

716
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: You only get one quarterback, you get him for ten years?

717
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: Who are you taking? Because you can't go wrong no

718
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: matter what. Okay, because regards to who's playing as a

719
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: rookie and throughout that tenure, unless I'm on the back end,

720
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm always open. No, I'm you're your rookie. Are your

721
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: rookie seon rookie season? Yeah, and I'm giving you one

722
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: of those guys. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes.

723
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, Fret, maybe Pat. I go with Pat.

724
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: Like Pat, I like my home boy. He does things

725
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: he's not supposed to do, and he's won where we

726
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: could go off script for a little bit and create

727
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: our own magic. Right, he has a freedom to do. So, Cincinnati,

728
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: we're going in the Buffalo. We're gonna wind. I don't

729
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: know when this is, Aaron, but I'm just putting that

730
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: out there right now. You're putting it out there. Yeah, Cincinnati,

731
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: you've had you had, Carson had kidding, I think, Kitten

732
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: the first King, the first first two, I think, and

733
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: Scott Mitchell, Yep, Why didn't Why weren't you able to

734
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: finish your career in Cincinnati? I don't think many of

735
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: the top receivers on any team have ever finished in

736
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: their career. I think who was fortunate was Larry Fitzgerald.

737
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how he was able to do it,

738
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: but he him and management, I think they had some

739
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: type of deal management and I got along extreamly well,

740
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: had no issues. But I think that towards the end

741
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: of my career was it was time to move on on,

742
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: you know, and there was nothing I could do about that.

743
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: It's would you like to play the year with because

744
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: you left and they drafted there, if you would like

745
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: to play the year when they yeah? Yeah? And at

746
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: that point year ten, I have no problem being a

747
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: mentor yeah, or mental or being number two, number two,

748
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. I took a backseatmen TiO came

749
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: and this is somebody I look up to, right, you know, Oh,

750
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: I have no problem being the number two. I don't care.

751
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: I have no problem because it's just ter one of

752
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: the best they ever played the position. I had no problems.

753
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: So seeing that, I think they should have known I

754
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: would have been okay. Aj Green coming in, I understand

755
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: I didn't have a game, I don't think so, and

756
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: then with maturity they should have known and seeing how

757
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: much I had grown, and it would have it would

758
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: have been cool and matter of fact, I could still

759
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: be playing right now, and I have no problem being

760
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: Forstring to t Chase and Tyler Boy play. What I'm

761
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: just saying, just huh play Feele mad No like in

762
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: Sday's game. Oh oh oh, you said that if you

763
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: were the age back then you could play. Now I

764
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: could play right now. You know, I'm I'm in shape.

765
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: You know egg is a shape. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,

766
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: I'm in I'm in shape. I'm I'm in shape shape

767
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: like if I still if a call was happening to come,

768
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: I'm not to play, but I'm in shape to be able.

769
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: So what the call come? If you not, if you

770
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: can't play, I'm just saying, if it wasn't, just tell

771
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: you I'm in shape if it was to come. Okay,

772
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. This is the most baffling

773
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: thing with me because I just knew this was gonna work.

774
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: I didn't work in New England. Why you know what?

775
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: It just I think for one too many got damn

776
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: targets out there. Let's let's let's think about this, right,

777
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: think about this real quick. I go to New England,

778
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: they already have. You're listening. Julian Edelman yep. Wes Welker yep.

779
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: Dion Branch Gronk, Aaron hernandez ye what I'm doing there,

780
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: you Walt Joe, that's what you're doing there. You at

781
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: yo having fixed pro bowls by the time when you

782
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: got there, m m. And then it's a whole different

783
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: big dog. Listen, it should me not over there every

784
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: listen in New England. Ain't no big dog. It's an

785
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: even playing field. Everybody's expendable and they and you and

786
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 1: you can feel it when you walk in the room.

787
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: Everybody expendable. First day I walk into meet Belichick, I'm

788
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: ready to shake hand and you know, welcome, thank you

789
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: for coming. You know you're gonna have to change who

790
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: you are to be here. Who took the win out myself?

791
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,959
Speaker 1: H yeah, hold on, he didn't tell you that before

792
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: you got there. Ain't no Ocho, ain't no big dog.

793
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: Patrio way get in live so me I listen. I

794
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: enjoyed my time there. It wasn't as productive, productive as

795
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: I would like. I got there late. I didn't have

796
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: an all season, you know, but it was fun. It

797
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: was such a joy to know we were gonna win

798
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: every week, and it was a joy to understand why

799
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: they were so successful as a team, as an organization,

800
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: because it started from the top and it trickled all

801
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: the way down on the way things are ran. I've

802
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: never been to the military, never been to the army,

803
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: but if I had to take a guess what it's like.

804
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: That's what it is like. Playing from New England. Everything

805
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: was on point. If you mess up, you start over

806
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: until you get it right. And that is why they

807
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: want all the time. Obviously having someone like twelve at

808
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: the Helm. It's what it is. What was what was

809
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: Coach Belichick recruiting pitch to get you to come to

810
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: New England? They I got traded. If I had an

811
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: opportunity to pick a team go to, I wouldn't have

812
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 1: picked the England And to go to right, I wouldn't

813
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: have because there was too much going on. Why did

814
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: you tell them to release you there? No, no, no,

815
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: you don't do that. You don't do that. You don't

816
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: do that. Don't listen that. The cards, the cards I

817
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: was dealt, I just took them. I tried to do

818
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: the best paid you play you playing card and I

819
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: got to have faithe I throw the hand in right,

820
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, don't it don't work out? Look? Why

821
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: Mark Anthony and jlo ain't work out? It looked great,

822
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: sounds great the two. It just looked like boom, but

823
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: it didn't work out. It just like that, but they

824
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: didn't laugh like five seen years you laugh five cent

825
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: month Sometimes it's like that. Give me a top five quarterbacks.

826
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: That's interesting to see how your quarterback right now? Right now, Patrick,

827
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: my homeboy, Joe Burrow, John Shallon, Lamar Jackson. Now, this

828
00:41:55,239 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: number five is tough. Can I can I go? Jalen Hurts?

829
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: You can? Can I go? Jayden Hurts? Yea? But I'm

830
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: sure there's an argument that people will But what about someone?

831
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: So what about Dak? I mean it's a five a

832
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: to five beat. I like to throw Dack in there

833
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: as well, but five a five beat Jayden hurts Dak,

834
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: And I'm sure there's more. Herbert, Yeah, I see, it's

835
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: like it's it's so many Trevor Lawrence obviously having a

836
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: Stellier this year. Justin Herbert always been quietly good. I

837
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: don't get to watch the La Charger just play much,

838
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: but I just know he's a he's an animal at

839
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: the position. But I just go at that five and

840
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: I don't like what they're doing to Lamar pay the man.

841
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: I'll about to ask you, did he handle this situation correctly?

842
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: He hited. He handled it the best way he could.

843
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: He handled the best way he could as a quarterback,

844
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: as a face of their franchise. And he's hurt. He's hurt, Yeah,

845
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: because I look, if you value him, if you value

846
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: him like you say you do this third year, you

847
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 1: would have got it done a long time ago. You

848
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: want to lock your quarterback up as soon as possible,

849
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: especially one that changed the dynamic of your team like that.

850
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: But they want to play games because he wants guaranteed Well,

851
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: if Cleveland set the president, yeah, Lamar Jackson is a

852
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: is a than not that is an unbelievable player. Yeah,

853
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: But when you're a league MVP, unanimously, when you've gone

854
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: to the playoffs back to back years, you want a

855
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,479
Speaker 1: playoff game that's gotta be worth something. Right, It's worth

856
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: a lot. It's worth a guaranteed contract about two thirty right,

857
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: maybe two twenty nine, right. Make make him feel good.

858
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: But they're gonna play the game. And if you feel

859
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: that way about him, if you don't value him in,

860
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: what do he brings to the team and what do

861
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: you bring to that organization? Just let him go, don't

862
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: even play the franchise tag game. Seek a trade and

863
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: watch him when else, give him what he wants or

864
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: what he's worth. I'm looking at you. You brought up

865
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: in Miami, obviously, Liberty City. Liberty City. Yes, How did

866
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: growing up in Liberty City? How did that shape demand

867
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: that we see sitting here today? That's a good one.

868
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: I think my environment, my surroundings. I wouldn't say shape

869
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: because my environment and surroundings would persuade me to be

870
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: flashy or persuade me the the big chains, the mouthful

871
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 1: of goals. I did that. I represented my city extremely

872
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: well while I was playing by leaving Liberty City, but

873
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: never ever really leaving right because I took that with me.

874
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: It was in me, and I played that way. I

875
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: chose not to conform while I was playing, which upset

876
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people. But it was always in me.

877
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: But if I had to say, that might be one

878
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: of the ways it did shape me by never conforming,

879
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: never needing validation, never wanting acceptance, for instance, hall of fame, right,

880
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: if I say, all, you're supposed to be in all

881
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 1: of fame. Listen, I put that jacket on for a reason.

882
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: I put that jacket on for a reason. That night,

883
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: I had just crossed the ten thousand y'all mark on

884
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: that catch, and I felt, I felt I was Hall

885
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: of Fame worthy. I don't care what y'all think. I'm

886
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: not needing or seeking your validation. The fact that we

887
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: when we played the game and we grow up, it

888
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: takes so much to get through so many obstacles even

889
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: get to that point, to get to that pinnacle of

890
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: a childhood dream. So now you get it, you reach it,

891
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: you play it. Now you got other people in control

892
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: of how you feel because you want to be accepted

893
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: the part of something they have, which is the highest honor,

894
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: is the highest honor. But I will never give them

895
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: the satisfaction of having that kind of power over me,

896
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: knowing that I cared that much, which is why I

897
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 1: donned my own jacket, because I don't want to play

898
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: politics right, because the goal post move depending on who

899
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: the person is. And I was one that played the

900
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: game my way. I played the game my way, and

901
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: they don't see that fit that, you know what, he

902
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: never did it the way we felt he should have,

903
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: and we will always slide him in any way because

904
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: the numbers are good enough, because there are others that

905
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: have gotten in there with lesser So I don't, I don't.

906
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to argue the fact. I just I

907
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: think that's another thing being from Liberty City is just

908
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: never need that validation. And that's it. You was raised

909
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: by your grandparents, grandma. Although your mom was around, your

910
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: grandparents felt your grandmother felt it was best that you

911
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: lived with her. What were some of the lessons that

912
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: she instilled? Because I was raised by my grandparents and

913
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: my grandmother, do right by others, and that's something that

914
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 1: I always try to do. Do right by others in life,

915
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: do right by others in life. And I felt short,

916
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: oh that before, I feel short, And I think that's

917
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: what life is about. Life is about experiences, Life is

918
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: about lessons, Life is about mistakes, and with those mistakes

919
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: in life is learning from him and never allowing them

920
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: to repeat themselves. And I've done a hell of a

921
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: job at that hell of a job, and always showing

922
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: love to any and everybody, no matter who you are,

923
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: and people will tell you that have met me in passing, Yo,

924
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: you're nothing like what they perceive you to be. Yeah,

925
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: that's the media, that's their job. I enjoyed being the villain.

926
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: I like that. I bought into that role. But that's

927
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: nothing like I am in person. That's a persona And

928
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: on Sundays I allowed them to portray how it was

929
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: viewed by the public, right, and I was okay with that.

930
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: As your grandmother started to age, she suffered from the midments.

931
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: How did that because there's the man your grandmother. I love,

932
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: I love my mom, but there's just something about a grandma.

933
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: There's something about a granny, and they love grandkids more

934
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: than they love their own kids. And to see all

935
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: of a sudden, don't remember she's there, but she's really

936
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: not there because all of a sudden, she don't know

937
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: who a baby is, didn't know who I was. At

938
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: one point, What did that do to you? It was?

939
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: It was It was crushing, But the fact that I

940
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 1: was able to deal with it a little bit better

941
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: because it was a slow process and understanding what was

942
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: to come going on, it was you know what was

943
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: to come, So I cherished those moments when she did

944
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: realize who I was, and when it got to the

945
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: point where it was so bad where she didn't know,

946
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: when my mother had to leave La and moved to

947
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: Miami just to take care of it because she was

948
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: that weak and unable. And at that point I just

949
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: started remember the good time, right, the good times of

950
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: going to church every Sunday, the pinches for me, or

951
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: her looking at me in the choir, well you bet up,

952
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: oh man, it's it's but don't get me cheering up here,

953
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: but yeah, good time. Same thing with mom, you know.

954
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: I I I lost Mom in in twenty twenty one,

955
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: early January, same way, the memories because she we called

956
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: a hurricane Paul, and that's exactly what she was. So

957
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 1: in other words, instead of truthing to what she was

958
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: going through, you chose to remember only the good time

959
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: you and your mom, or you and your grandmother had. Yeah,

960
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: that the way you dealt with it. Yeah. I had to,

961
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: because if you think about the bad, it puts you

962
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: in the dumps. Yeah, it messed with you. You start

963
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: crying and then affect other things you have going on life.

964
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: And then I needed to be strong for them little ones, right,

965
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: because they watch it. Yeah, so in my own time alone.

966
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: Oh it's okay to let it out. Yeah, you let

967
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: it out right, you know. And when you look at it, Ojo,

968
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: you had far more good times would have been bad?

969
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah a year or two, two or

970
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: three years if you're going through this right now. But

971
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: when you look like like, man, I had forty years

972
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: of this woman, which she had a right man and

973
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: my mom didn't stuff. It wasn't going through any of this. Yeah,

974
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: it was dope. It was dope. It was some good time, man,

975
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: great memories, great stories in Liberty City, sinker want to

976
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: be when you're growing up in Liberty City like a venarian.

977
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a veterinarian. Did you know any

978
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: bad animals? Love animals, killer whales. My entire right leg

979
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: is killing whales all the way up. Did you have

980
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: any animals growing up? Did you have a dog, cat, squirrel? Dogs?

981
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm really I'm really good with dogs, really good with breeze,

982
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: being able to name any and every breed just just

983
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: by looking. Now, they didn't mix Breeze up so much.

984
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: It's hard to tell what's what. But I always wanted

985
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: to be a veterinarian. I love killer whales. I love orcas.

986
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: Anything to do with marine biology, that would have been me.

987
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: So you want to be a vet, then you kind

988
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: of got good at sports? I got. Yeah, I wanted

989
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: to play soccer. Okay, did you play high school? No?

990
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: I couldn't because soccer and football was during the same

991
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: time and I had to pick one. Grandma sat me

992
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: down and listened, baby, this is not what we do.

993
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,479
Speaker 1: It's back in so you can imagine soccer is still

994
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: not as big as it should be in the States.

995
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: And we're in twenty twenty three, so imagine back then

996
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: in the nineties, like, if you're thinking long term, you

997
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: need to be trying to focus on this. And then

998
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: it was football, right you get Did you get recruited

999
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: heavily out of out of high school? Yeah? But I

1000
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: ain't had no grades. I ain't even seeing a lot

1001
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: to you, man, because I felt I was good enough

1002
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: where I was gonna squeeze to the cracks. And my

1003
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: grandma told me, baby, you need to always put your

1004
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: books first, because it's not gonna work no matter how

1005
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: good you are. Without the education, you're not gonna be

1006
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: able to get through. Nah, Mommy, I got it, Mommy,

1007
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,479
Speaker 1: I'm good. I called my grandma mommy too, I'm good.

1008
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get through you. Mhm. But listen, the recruiters

1009
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: came and started looking at that trads grill. That what

1010
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: you gonna Nope, I couldn't. So my opportunity had the

1011
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 1: red shirt. I went to LANs University. Went to LANs

1012
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: University in nineteen ninety seven. Yeah, you have coach Johnson.

1013
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: I never forget Coach Johnson was a coach at the time.

1014
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: I was a red shirt. Okay, red shirt and got

1015
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: in trouble for fighting. That's one of my problems I got.

1016
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm always fighting, So I got in trouble of fighting.

1017
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: They they they threw me out. I never forget Doctor

1018
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: Ernest Holloway, Rest in peace. What were you fighting about? Ocho?

1019
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: Uh dude? I had one hundred dollars okay, I had

1020
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars in the draw. I went to the

1021
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: to the what do you call when you go went

1022
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: to the cafetier. I came back, hundred dollar was gone.

1023
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: Oh now, it's only one person. Come over now. I

1024
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: talked to me. It's only one person that had access

1025
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: to the room. Wasn't my roommate brouh when a hundred dollars,

1026
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 1: Big Steve, Man, I ain't been in here. I ain't

1027
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: been in here, big Steve. Nobody has access to our

1028
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: room but your man. And then he buckled up at me,

1029
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: knuckled up at me. Man, I just I did hit

1030
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: him with a two piece, and it just we we

1031
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: we we went to work. We thumped for a little bit, right,

1032
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: we thumped for a little bit. Did you get the

1033
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: money back? No, I get the money back? And he,

1034
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: you know, face kind of messed up. They went down

1035
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: to the office. Whoever the officer came, sent me down

1036
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: to doctor Ernest Holloway. They say, they send me to

1037
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: my room. We'll talk to you. They called me back

1038
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: down the following morning and they expel me. They expel me.

1039
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: I came back the Miami and my grandma, Oh no, listen, baby,

1040
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 1: I've done all I can with you. Her favorite line,

1041
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: I washed my hands. What oh that hurt? That hurt?

1042
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: Didn't that hurt? But this is how I ended up

1043
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: in the la As Center Monica because my mama was

1044
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: living out here. Mama had been out here for a

1045
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: long time. So boom, first time, not first time, But

1046
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: now I get to stay with mama full time. Hurricane

1047
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: faull'm I never forget we lived in She lived in

1048
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: Baldwin Hills right off of Stocker Okay, forty five sixty five,

1049
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: don to muscle drive apartment number one. Okay. Enrolled at

1050
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: Santa Monica. Steve Smith is there. Yep, Dyland Smith is

1051
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: our quarterback who went to Venice High. Had a great year.

1052
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: Great year was because I was able to come in

1053
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: and play right away. So that's two years down. Following

1054
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: a year mcgrad's messed up again. You know you need

1055
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: the grade because in the first time, but you ain't

1056
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: thinking that because I'm like, oh, I can get on

1057
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: the field once they see me, Boom, I'm gonna be

1058
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: able to squeeze through the crest. Boom. Insert Charles Collins

1059
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: comes in. During that year of me being ineligible, we

1060
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: trained together. I take some classes as Southwest, but the

1061
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: Southwest of West LA. I take some I think it

1062
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 1: might have been West LA. Take some extra classes getting

1063
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: myself eligible the following year. So that's year four. I played,

1064
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: have a great year, get my grades together. I'm on

1065
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: point and looking at teams team schools that would give

1066
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: me a one for one, not many eight year one

1067
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: for one Dennis ericson Oregon State. Dennis remembered me from

1068
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: the camps the Hurricane used to have back in the

1069
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: days when I used to go out there and act

1070
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: a fool, having fun, just being just really good. At

1071
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: that point, he gave me a shot. I never forget

1072
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: not insert me at the Oregon State Jos. I ain't

1073
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: looked back. I ain't looked back, Shay. Once I got

1074
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: the organ State, man, it took off from there. What

1075
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: I was able to do in such a short amount

1076
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: of time at you know, the collegiate level, never being

1077
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: on the big stage like that. That was it. That

1078
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: was all she wrote. You mentioned Langston, which is an HBCU.

1079
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: The HBCU now experience there's a lot different than it

1080
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: was for you back there. Yeah. Yeah, what would you

1081
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: tell What would you tell kids now they have an

1082
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: opportunity to possibly experience because that's what it's an experience.

1083
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: I have a love for fam you. I have an

1084
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 1: extreme love for FAMI because of my mom and grandma,

1085
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: who both went to Bathoon Cookman. It took me to

1086
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: the Florida Classic every year since nineteen eighty four. But

1087
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: my gravitation towards the Rattlers has always been a great

1088
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: one and I've always shown them love publicly, whether it

1089
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: be through a tire, whether in helping any any way

1090
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: I can doctor Chipman and doctor White. Something about that

1091
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: HPCU experience that I was never able to experience that

1092
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: I miss and want so bad. And I think if

1093
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: people have a chance to go to a school like that,

1094
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: it's okay. And then people will say, well, Power fives

1095
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: have the amenities and have things at HBCUs don't. And

1096
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: I say, well, if you really like that, if you

1097
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: really like that, yeah, it don't matter where you go, right,

1098
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: they gonna find you. But if you really like that, right,

1099
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: I think it's just hard to get a kid that

1100
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 1: has the grades and he's a you know, five star,

1101
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: four or five star to like turn down Notre Dame

1102
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: Alabama or something like that, to go to an it's hard.

1103
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: But it's that APU experience is from and to the

1104
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: fact I haven't even got my degree. So I'm thinking

1105
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 1: about when they're time is right, I'm going to FAM.

1106
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: What you mean, I'm going to FAM and I'm to

1107
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: join the band. And dude, man, my grandma had me

1108
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: playing saxophone and piano. I can play the sax and

1109
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: at some point I can audition. I can audition to

1110
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: be the drumms. Picked up a sack you don't even care,

1111
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: a sack of grocery. List when the last time you

1112
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: rode a bike? Man? I wrote a not a stationary

1113
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: right when the last time you wrote a regular bike? Oh? Man,

1114
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: it's probably not since I've been out here, so not

1115
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: since you've been out here. But if you was to

1116
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: get a bike, not stacenarios, but get on there. You

1117
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: think you can still? Right? I know I could. I

1118
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: damn it. There you go, right there. I don't take

1119
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: long about notes and listen read music. That's something I've

1120
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: always done. We'll laugh. How you played the saxophone chair,

1121
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: I still haven't. Right there? And what you got? You got?

1122
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: What the hot was the last time I picked it up?

1123
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: Say pick it up. I haven't played. But listen to me,

1124
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: listen to me. It never leaves you. It never leaves

1125
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: you because it's something that she instilled in me as

1126
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: a kid, and it will always be there. It's called

1127
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: muscle memory. Muscle memory. I still can read music. I

1128
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: still know the notes, none changed, and I guarantee you

1129
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: once I applied myself like I'm doing everything else, I

1130
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: want to be good at I could be the drum

1131
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: major for Fan. No joking, I'm not smiling, I'm not laughing,

1132
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: but it's a serious matter when it comes to stuff

1133
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: like that. It's not a laughing matter. You want to

1134
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: you want to be the drum major fan? Yeah, that

1135
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: would be dope. I also want to get my degree

1136
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: in business, mine in marketing because I'm great. I'm a

1137
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 1: great marketer. I saw coach Pryan he ran, he seen

1138
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: he received a lot of negattivity about leaving. And you

1139
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: know the one thing I always say about this, when

1140
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: you leave something, but always talk about what you didn't do,

1141
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: but never would talk about what you did do. It's

1142
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: like that with an It's like that with anything like

1143
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: that at general relationship. I'm sure you had relationship with

1144
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: what Chad didn't do this, but what about what did

1145
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: Chad did do? So? What how? What what was your

1146
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: thought process about him leaving going to a power five?

1147
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: It's Prime, it's Prime. I think Prime did what he

1148
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: was supposed to do. Uh as far as going to

1149
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: Jackson State and changing that program to the magnitude that

1150
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: he did. The coverage was great, the amenity, some of

1151
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: the things that he brought in were great. Now as

1152
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: far as to spend some of his own money, oh yeah,

1153
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:47,959
Speaker 1: I see, I don't know anything about that. I didn't.

1154
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't know the details and the infrastructure

1155
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: on what happened. But what he was able to do

1156
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: in putting Jackson State on the map, eventher they're already

1157
00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: on the map disrespect, but to a grander scale, I

1158
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: think it was dope what he was able to do.

1159
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: And when the opportunity like that comes and knock and

1160
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: you have to take it because in life and it's

1161
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: about yeah and you guaranteeing. In life, it's all about

1162
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: elevating and continue to elevate in whatever it is that

1163
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: you do. And I think he's going to do a

1164
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: phenomenal job at Colorado and its next stop it's going

1165
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: to be the NFL. You think you kind of want

1166
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: to deal with the NFL guy, Yeah, of course you're

1167
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: gonna say not to. But it must be the money

1168
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: that turning me out. All you gotta do is play

1169
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: that song because when the money come to call, and

1170
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: when you're consistently winning and being able to do it

1171
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: at two different entities. Oh, they coming to call, because

1172
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: not only did Prime is a good coach, he's a

1173
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: players coach, and he's someone that the players can relate to,

1174
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: even at the NFL level, And that's something your run through.

1175
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: You run through a wall fu. Yeah, he teaches a

1176
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: lot of life lessons with the way you see he communicates.

1177
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: They talk to you, did you hit the difference? He

1178
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: teaches lessons. He's a teacher, not a coach. So you

1179
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: get a coach and a team. You put that together

1180
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: that is more dynamic than any of the other thirty

1181
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: two coaches. No disrespect to them, no disrespect to them,

1182
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: but you got a different dynamic when you put somebody

1183
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: like Prime in that position running your team. I did

1184
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: say the Cowboys, but the Cowboys and Jerry Jones wouldn't

1185
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: relinquish that power having someone that has more star power

1186
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: than him in that high position. What a time became

1187
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: the first African American to win the national championship. They

1188
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: ready for that. Yeah, but I don't think it would

1189
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: be a Colorado though, Okay, it might be at Florida State.

1190
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: Listen to me, Well, he's definitely gonna take him some time,

1191
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: because you got you gotta get a certain type of player. Yeah, players, yes,

1192
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: right position, yeah, right position. Let's start within the back. Start,

1193
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: let's start with interior. Got to once you start there,

1194
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: everything else gonna take care of yourself because the skilled

1195
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: position they come in A Dyamond doesn't. Right. What's what's

1196
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: your fondest memories of college? Langston U, Santa Monica Junior College,

1197
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: organ State. What's your fondest memories? My fond memories set

1198
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: in Monica. Steve Smith, Dyland Smith, Robert Taylor, Charles Collins,

1199
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: Who's responsible for everything that has to do with my

1200
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: skill set when it comes to playing the gamer receiver.

1201
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: He's responsibly everything. The relationships and the friends from back then,

1202
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: uh Lankson. So many friends I met in They're all

1203
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: from Chicago. I have no idea where all all those

1204
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: people are. Do you do you still keep keep in

1205
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: contact with some of the people that you met at Lankster? No,

1206
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: it's hard because I don't. I don't don't remember anybody's name.

1207
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: I know one person that was from Miami. Him and

1208
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: I still stay in contact, Little Maurice, I said, Organ State. Obviously,

1209
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: t J and I still in communication. Our court. My

1210
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: quarterback now is the quarterback at the quarterback. My quarterback

1211
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: back then the organ state is now the head coach.

1212
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: And with social media it makes it a lot easier

1213
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: to stay in contact, right in contact with people. So

1214
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: him and I have, we've talked back and forth. They

1215
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: haven't had an opportunity due to scheduling being able to

1216
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: go back and catch a game yet. But it's it's

1217
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: it's been dope, It's been dope. I read a story

1218
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: with John Kid. You dropped the pass and you were crying,

1219
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: and John, oh, I never forget. It was third down.

1220
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: We were playing the Innapolis Coats on the thirty on

1221
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: the twenty five going out, and that change me in general,

1222
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: that drop, I never forget it. That's why I was

1223
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: able to call it out third down against the Coats.

1224
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: You don't you remember it's always you always remember the

1225
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: bad more than you ever remember the good. Yep, because

1226
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: after that, after that catch, that change, that was a

1227
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: pivotal point in my career. The same thing happened. I

1228
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: remember dropping the past. It was my second year in

1229
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: the league in nineteen ninety one. I dropped the pass

1230
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: in the south end zone. The landed up. I was

1231
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: playing tight end. They split me out, they walked the Robinson,

1232
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: the line back and from the raids fifty seven. I

1233
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: dropped the pass. We'd won the game, and we'd had

1234
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: home field throughout, were losing the championship in the Buffalo

1235
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: ten seven. I was crying. I remember crying, like going

1236
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 1: driving home. I was crying. My brother like, man, what's wrong,

1237
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: what's wrong? I said, smanke, I blew it. He's like,

1238
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: what would you do? I said, I dropped the touchdown.

1239
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: I said, we'd have won the game, we'd had home

1240
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: field throughout. He said, you get another chance. It took

1241
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: five long It took six years before we got an

1242
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: AFC championship game and got an opportunity to make up

1243
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: for it. And I never still the satisfaction of catching

1244
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: a drive a path that kept a driver a line

1245
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: when we run out of the clock, or the ninety

1246
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: six yard touchdown. I still remember the drop with greater

1247
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 1: disappointment than I do the joy of those other two plays.

1248
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: That's crazy how that works. And you know I didn't

1249
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: let it. I didn't let it. I didn't let it linger.

1250
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: But it it lit a fire up under me. It

1251
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: drove me. Man, so never ever ever have my offensive

1252
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: coordinator or quarterback feeling like they couldn't count on Yep,

1253
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: that's it. And then after that, when I got the

1254
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: year three, I remember the disappointment. I don't just me,

1255
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: but just the feeling of letting my teammates down to

1256
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: keep that drive alive in the opportunity to win that

1257
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: game in Indie and year three. From that point on,

1258
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 1: not I wouldn't feeling myself, but I felt I had

1259
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: arrived and I understood the game. The speed of the game.

1260
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: The game became slow to me. And before every game

1261
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: I walk up to my quarterback and my officer, the

1262
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: coordinator and said, I got you, no matter what I

1263
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: got you, And just just the feeling of then I

1264
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: really got into my into my not my bag, but

1265
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: since that's what the kids say these I got into

1266
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: my bag. With the calling Hugh Jackson and Marvin the

1267
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: phone calls at three four in the morning, I'm open

1268
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: and just hang up. Psychologic wish you would call me

1269
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: at three o'clock of the morning. Top after Yeah, listen,

1270
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: that's psychological wars the other team deeper, the coordinator wai up,

1271
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: don't wake me up, because what's when when you when

1272
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: you're having a dream, right, listen, listen to me, Stay

1273
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: with me, Stay with me. Okay, when you have a dream, yes,

1274
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: you wake up in the morning. Yeah, and you remember

1275
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: that dream basically, don't you. Yep, same thing with them

1276
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: phone calls. So when we get on those saturdays, when

1277
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: I call you the night before games or through the week,

1278
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: when you're in that booth and you're calling plays, at

1279
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: some point you're gonna vibly remember, you know what, just subconsciously,

1280
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: jag gonna be open. You had a couple of two

1281
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: hundred yard games, or you had a two sixty or

1282
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 1: two oh nine and they came very close. What do

1283
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: you what do you remember about those games? Did was

1284
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: there anything different going into that game? Because like sometimes

1285
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,439
Speaker 1: during the court, the week of prize, you like, boy,

1286
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: this thing, go beat this thing, gonna be nice on Sunday,

1287
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: And then sometimes you have a bad week of primee.

1288
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not getting a whole lot of balls,

1289
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: and then you for some reason, the ball just finds

1290
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: you on a Sunday. I had two sixty. Yeah you

1291
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: know what, I don't I think it might have been

1292
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 1: San Diego and they just played cover one. That's why

1293
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 1: anytime there are games that big like that, it's just

1294
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: cover one. They refused to change, you know, cover three,

1295
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: cover one and they not doubling. That's all it is.

1296
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: Then I'm you're not You're not covering me one on one?

1297
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: Did you feel it a different saithful to? They w no,

1298
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: because they were stuck into their ways back then. Back then,

1299
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,479
Speaker 1: they they care who you are, this is what we played.

1300
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna play that, and we're gonna We're gonna rely

1301
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: on our corners to do their job when they thought

1302
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: when they talk about receivers, obviously in the eras with

1303
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: Randy Larry Marvin, Reggie Tory, Hope t to do you

1304
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: feel you got the credit that you deserve for being

1305
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: the receiver that you were? Oh? Do you feel you

1306
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: were overshadowed? I don't know because I never thought about it.

1307
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: I never thought about it. Nor do I care about

1308
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: the discussions when the top receivers come up. I never

1309
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: mentioned myself. I never I mentioned you know, the people

1310
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 1: that you just did. I don't care about top five,

1311
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 1: I don't care about top ten. I don't care about eras.

1312
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: I care about those that played it and that love

1313
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: it and have more of a sense of well, I

1314
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 1: want to be considered this when this conversation comes up.

1315
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: I've never been that, and I will always say the

1316
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: greatest receiver that I've ever seen play Jerry great numbers

1317
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 1: what he's done for the game. But to me, Randy

1318
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: and Til, we would never see anything like that ever. Again.

1319
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: I saw that up close with my own eyes, right

1320
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: up close to my own eyes. I ain't never seen

1321
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 1: nothing like that. You think somebody's gonna break Jarry's records? Who?

1322
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: I don't think people realize Jerry got two eight tests.

1323
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: You know how long you got to play? Yeah, now

1324
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 1: we are in a past happy league and you got

1325
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: an extra game to you got an extra game. But

1326
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: that's a lot of You gotta consistent. You gotta be

1327
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: consistent year in year out. The quarterback played the chemishye

1328
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: and the Wi Fi between you and the quarterback, you

1329
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: and the coordinator gotta have a thing going on and

1330
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: you go around or you gotta stay healthy. It's possible,

1331
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: but PI think other players he'd be like, man, I

1332
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean somebody eventually, somebody fifteen hundred and

1333
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: nine yards. That's doable, especially with the past. Happily now right,

1334
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: But that two hundred, those one hundred and ninety seven

1335
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns, that's a lot, man, that's a lot of

1336
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 1: football you gotta play. That's it's a lot of football

1337
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: you gotta play. But Jerry, Jerry was a great one

1338
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: man in his own right. And then when we talk

1339
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: about the greatest of all time, I think Jerry should

1340
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: be in the category category of his own. Oh you receivers, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1341
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: you category of his own. Yeah. But then you know,

1342
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 1: based on the numbers and the accolades and what he

1343
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 1: was able to achieve. But just for me, yeah, me personally,

1344
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: I know what Jerry's done. But that got damn Randy

1345
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: and TiO man. Yeah, oh I got him. I got

1346
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: him at two and three. I mean is debatable. Yeah,

1347
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: I think Jerry's number one. I got, I got TiO two,

1348
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: I got Randy three. There's a lot of people that

1349
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: have Randy two. Some people put Randy at one. I

1350
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: just don't know how somebody goes over Jerry, given his longevity,

1351
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: given what he's done, the numbers, the totality of what

1352
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: he's been able to ask. That's why I put him

1353
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: in his own class. That's why I put him in

1354
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: the whole class. So there, know, but I'm just I

1355
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: like for me being able to see it. I want

1356
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 1: to see it. I know why you was able to

1357
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: do what you did. I know why you was able

1358
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: to score twenty three touchdowns that year when you played

1359
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: in New England. You know, I was able to see it,

1360
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, seeingto come back after ankle surgery, like man,

1361
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 1: how right? Man? It was beautiful, Man, it was beautiful.

1362
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: What made you come up with the touchdown celebration when

1363
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 1: you're just sitting at home? Like, man, I'm from Miami

1364
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 1: right right, who dominated college football to the nineties. Okay,

1365
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: So that's what I grew up watching. So that's what

1366
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: I grew up doing. From Liberty City Optimists, from Miami

1367
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 1: Lakes Optimists. I was always celebrating. I was celebrated down

1368
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: the eighties and they had little resurgence. Yeah, but I

1369
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: but you grew up. But you grew up in the

1370
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: era where you saw that in the ages, that's what

1371
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: they were. They were the thing. So what I saw

1372
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 1: I imitated as a little kid in a little league

1373
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: and grew up doing that. So once I made it,

1374
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 1: I waited first. I waited first. Let me understand. Let

1375
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 1: me get a feel for the offense, let me get

1376
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 1: a feel for the speed of the game. And once

1377
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: I felt I arrived. Okay, I got it. Now, now

1378
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 1: I can kick in the gear and just be me

1379
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: because everything else is moving so slow. And then the

1380
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: entertainment value kicked in. What were your favorite celebration? I

1381
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: had all my homeboys in town from Liberty City, never

1382
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 1: been outside of the city before, never, and I put

1383
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: them all in the family section and I scored on

1384
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 1: that in against Tennessee, and I took I told the

1385
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 1: camera operator listened if I was scoring this in, just

1386
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: moved to the side. Let me get the camera and

1387
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 1: I put all them young boys, the young bulls on

1388
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 1: TV for like ten seconds. And I think just getting

1389
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 1: them that TV time for that split second was dope. Dudes,

1390
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 1: ain't never never been never never been out of Miami.

1391
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 1: Maybe the marriage proposal was good too, or Tiger Wood

1392
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 1: was once some Saturday night it's it's too many, there's

1393
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: too many. It was one I didn't do that. I

1394
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 1: thought it would have been really good. Were you and

1395
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 1: t you and t O ever tried it? Like, Okay,

1396
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 1: I got something special? Did you ever know what the

1397
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 1: celebration he might do. Did he ever know this? Now

1398
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 1: we even talk about that. Let me talk about that.

1399
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 1: Anything you saw was for me. It was just my

1400
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: authentic organic and there was always a theme to it.

1401
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: On something I may be saw on TV, like the

1402
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: River Dance, the Lord of the Lord of the Something

1403
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: happened to be in town in Chicago and I saw

1404
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: the commercial. I like, you know what I'm gonna do

1405
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 1: that if I score to Mirrow. Yeah, it was just

1406
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: just off the rim, trash talking. There are a lot

1407
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 1: of there are a lot of you. You miked up

1408
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: and you talking to the dB talk my UK Guardby,

1409
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 1: UK Guardby and then you ran into Ray. Yeah, why

1410
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 1: were you? What were you thinking? You was trying to

1411
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 1: sneak You weren't. Yeah, I try to say, you weren't looking.

1412
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: You know. The funny thing everybody always sees that clip.

1413
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 1: The funny thing about it is we played the Ravens

1414
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: twice a year. Yeah, and if that Stafey didn't come

1415
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: down on that stretch play or that or that toss,

1416
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 1: then raise the next person for me to hit right.

1417
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 1: And I lost the Ray about two hundred times, and

1418
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: just so happened. It happened to be miked up that day,

1419
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: and you saw what happened to me every single time.

1420
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: But every single time I was going, I ain't, I

1421
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 1: ain't never give up. And I was a NAT. I

1422
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 1: was a NAT. Now I think I didn't care how

1423
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:16,839
Speaker 1: big it was. I played a reckless style of football

1424
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 1: even though I was so frail. But it's like you

1425
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 1: supposed you supposed had to drop the boom on him.

1426
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 1: He ain't see you. I dropped the boom on him. No,

1427
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 1: he didn't even flint. I know my shoe string right, listen,

1428
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: my shoe string was untied. I stepped up a shoe string.

1429
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 1: So the laws of physics, you know, low man win,

1430
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: So it messed up my trajectory at being low so

1431
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 1: I could have won and got up under him. So

1432
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 1: I couldn't get up on him like I wanted to

1433
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 1: try to hiward him. Huh. Yeah, she Hynes was good

1434
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: at because he was sure. Yeah, so I'm tall, so

1435
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: I got to get down a little bit more. Were

1436
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 1: you at the game when he got Keith Rivers? You

1437
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: remember that? Yeah he broken jaw ass? Yeah, h Ward room.

1438
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 1: You can't block grab back no more? Yeah? Well shit,

1439
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 1: I mean you can't hit nothing no more. That's why

1440
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: I said, like I played the day because you can't

1441
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,600
Speaker 1: touch nobody. Who's the toughest defender. You had to go

1442
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 1: against Reevous like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was good.

1443
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 1: He was good. And to make it worse, you have

1444
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: a great DV then you have a great defense on

1445
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: top of that. That got them in from Foe that

1446
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 1: year with Rix Ryan. Yeah, I remember John Abraham was

1447
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: up there. I can't remember the rest of them. Man,

1448
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: you had two seconds to throw the ball, then you

1449
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 1: got that that food up the side. Yeah, man. And

1450
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: it's it's what really may be bad is there were

1451
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: times I didn't get the completions or the yardist. I

1452
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 1: want that game, but I'm open. Right They say, oh,

1453
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: ViOS loped you down. Not really. The path was just

1454
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 1: in't complete. See there's a difference. Why what Why would

1455
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 1: the path they're complete? I don't know with there not

1456
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 1: enough separation between you and the d No, listen, this

1457
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: is open in the NFL. That's open now, Yeah it is.

1458
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 1: I mean was so technically very Listen listen, people at

1459
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 1: home watching, it's hard to explain. You think about that

1460
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine season, really bad man. Probably one

1461
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: of the greatest ever and they'll probably never be anyone

1462
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: to duplicate a season like that. We have to follow

1463
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 1: the number one in your lock all the top players down. Yeah.

1464
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 1: The fact this is what made me really mad is

1465
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 1: he never failed for the focial move. But I was

1466
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 1: patient as well. But he had the patience of Sally made.

1467
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 1: And he had this arm bar. Yeah, so if you

1468
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 1: were going by, he put that arm bar out and

1469
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: he always gets his head back around and he just

1470
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 1: feels wherever you are and he he get back to

1471
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 1: see that ball right away. Great technique. And it made

1472
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: me mad because he dressed so ugly in his UNIFILM.

1473
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 1: He got these high ass socks he got Remember how

1474
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 1: the mannequin in the locker room how you should dress. Yes,

1475
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: that's how he was out there on the field every

1476
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:52,719
Speaker 1: every bad I'm like, offen the sauce, this motherfucker. Maybe

1477
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 1: you get out there and may he put that you

1478
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 1: feel that she was strong, like he was strong, and

1479
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 1: he was like he was patient. Nothing. F I ask

1480
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: you about him, talk. He didn't talk. And that's one

1481
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: of the things I tried to get him to do.

1482
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: I said, if I can get him to have a

1483
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: conversation with me. I know I could take him out

1484
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 1: of the game a little bit, but he wouldn't talk.

1485
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 1: He wouldn't talk. Man, that motherfucker. I'm still mad. I'm

1486
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: still mad. But it's all right. You know, Man, he's

1487
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 1: one of the greatest to ever do it. So to

1488
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 1: lose to someone of that magnitude, who is probably one

1489
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: of the greatest to ever lace him up, is I

1490
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 1: have no problems? Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then I'm in

1491
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 1: my prime. Yeah, because these feet was gonna he didn't

1492
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: even he wasn't covering me. Prime didn't have to worry

1493
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 1: about me. He wasn't gonna have to worry about my feet.

1494
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 1: So I've watched I've watched all the Prime footage, right,

1495
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: and I've seen people get him off the line. I've

1496
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 1: seen people. You ain't gonna run by I don't want to.

1497
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 1: I'm known for what I'm known for, rout running. I

1498
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 1: ain't gotta run by you. But if I do run

1499
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 1: by you, all him to do a stack. You what

1500
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna do, run through me? What you're gonna do?

1501
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 1: Run through me? Don't do Don't do me like that,

1502
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 1: don't listen different, don't do me like that. Listen. He's

1503
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 1: a different animal. He's the greatest of all time. But

1504
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: I know how to diffuse the things that he s.

1505
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: So you're talking about so, so what you're trying to say,

1506
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 1: I would pay. I don't think Revers is better than Time.

1507
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. There's two different two different type

1508
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 1: of animals, two different type of styles of play. And

1509
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 1: you understand the thing is when I say time, when

1510
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 1: they say I got you all over the field, ain't

1511
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: no safe through the whole? You said prime, right, yeah,

1512
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 1: being our prime right. Yeah, that's a difference. Revers caught

1513
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 1: me on the back end. I had I had gray hair.

1514
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 1: You ain't had no hair. I had gray hair. I

1515
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 1: kept cutting it because I you know, I got Cherokee

1516
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 1: in my family. So I hate having over Cherokee. Huh

1517
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 1: you drawing with Cherokee. No, No, I have Cherokee in

1518
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: my family. Listen, with my hair, with my hair because

1519
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 1: the humidity in Miami. So I keep my ship the curl.

1520
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 1: When you were young, did you how you know because

1521
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: you got ball. Everybody had a curl growing up. Yeah.

1522
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: You see, I got girl, you got gray hair. I

1523
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 1: do got grey hair. You know when I when I

1524
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,759
Speaker 1: was in La, man, I had I had Shirley temples.

1525
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 1: You know, my hair was long. Yeah. I used to

1526
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 1: get no hot comb and having ship long because I like,

1527
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 1: I was like really La Yeah, and Noah, that was

1528
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 1: that that that's that flow to pimp when you got

1529
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 1: your hair straight calm. Yeah, what you know about that?

1530
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,480
Speaker 1: It's more of an l a thing though, because they ain't. Yeah.

1531
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 1: Some some good times too, man. Man the end of

1532
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 1: the career, I mean, what what what does Chad wish

1533
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: you would have done differently in the ten years in

1534
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,759
Speaker 1: which you play? If there anything you would have done differently?

1535
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 1: People ask me that all the time. Do you have

1536
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: any regrets if you could go back, if you if

1537
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: you could go back and rewind time, is there anything

1538
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 1: you would have done differently? And I wouldn't change a

1539
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: goddamn thing. But I add some stuff to the to

1540
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: the pot. What would you add a little more entertainment value?

1541
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 1: Even more than what you did? Yeah, even more than

1542
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 1: what I did. Yeah, even even more than what I did.

1543
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 1: I had fun. I had fun. And I think the

1544
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 1: fact that I was able to have that fun in

1545
01:17:56,479 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: a structured environment that didn't like players with personality, they

1546
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: didn't like individualism. If they were going to market someone,

1547
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 1: they want to be in control of that. If they're

1548
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: going to monetize off anyone's likeness, they want to be

1549
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 1: in control of that. The fact that I was able

1550
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 1: to do it my way and still do it in

1551
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 1: still to this day, I haven't played the game and

1552
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: ten eleven, twelve some years and still to this day

1553
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 1: that name rings just as loud as anyone else that

1554
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: is active in the game, that why do you change

1555
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: your name at Ocho Sinko. Oh, that's all marketing, that's

1556
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 1: all marketing. And people really call you that now, they don't.

1557
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 1: Nobody even say Chad's all Ocho. It's so it's a

1558
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 1: funny story. Spanish Heritage Month, right, obviously I have. I

1559
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 1: have a huge following in Mexico, huge following, and Spanish

1560
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 1: hands a month. It was Carson's idea a matter of fact,

1561
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 1: Oh you know what, you should put China Sinko on

1562
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 1: the back of your jersey. That's the correct way to

1563
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: say eighty five. But didn't make any sense, right, No,

1564
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 1: So I said, you know, Ocho Sinko. So I had

1565
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 1: the equipment manager create the veil crow and Spanish had

1566
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 1: spreading heritage month obviously is the month of September in

1567
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 1: the NFL. Went out there with that on my jersey.

1568
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 1: Carson ripped it off before the game starts. We were

1569
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 1: playing Atlanta Falcons. I never forget in Michael Vick the

1570
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 1: league office finding the following morning thirty grand, like thirty

1571
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 1: grand for altering the NFL uniform. So my stick back

1572
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,759
Speaker 1: to the NFL as a f you no disrespect, Todell.

1573
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: You know we're here now. I changed my name purposely

1574
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: in the off season for them finding me and not

1575
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 1: when I appealed it. They upheld the fine. But that's

1576
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 1: your name. It wasn't at a time, but when it's time,

1577
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 1: so they thirty grand for alterning NFL uniform. I got

1578
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: one for you. I'm gonna change it on purpose, So

1579
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 1: I changed the name in all season, So now I

1580
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 1: put it on all my jerseys. Since y'all want to

1581
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: be rude, it mean now, at that time, it was

1582
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 1: a stick to the NFL. Then it just turned into

1583
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 1: a whole brand at that point and I just played

1584
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 1: it off like it was marketing and it worked just

1585
01:19:56,360 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 1: as that. What is what does the future wife call you? Go?

1586
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: You Chad ocho daddy, Hey you're married. No, no, okay,

1587
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 1: I'm looking to get Hey, I'm about to be fifty five,

1588
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 1: to be double nickel, double nickel. So what do you

1589
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: think about it? Though, Let's pretend these cameras an't here. Yeah,

1590
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 1: it's me and you, Bob. I've been talking like they

1591
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: ain't here anyway. What you your views on marriage? What

1592
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: do you think? I would have loved to have gotten

1593
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,759
Speaker 1: married earlier in my career, but my career was most important.

1594
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,759
Speaker 1: So I was no good. I was a terrible father.

1595
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 1: I probably was a terrible brother, a terrible son. I

1596
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 1: definitely was a terrible boyfriend because football was the most

1597
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: important thing. I was consumed with that. And I was

1598
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 1: consumed with that because I wanted to get my grandmother

1599
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 1: and my family out of the conditions that they weren't being.

1600
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 1: And I said, if I had kids, I didn't want

1601
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 1: them to spend one hour, let alone a year, like

1602
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 1: I spent. So I focused on back. That was the

1603
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 1: only thing that mattered. And I had a lot of

1604
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 1: women say they could be okay with being with number

1605
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: two to football, but when it came right down to it,

1606
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 1: and they see how devout I was in it. They

1607
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 1: couldn't be and I'm saying, okay, But now I started

1608
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 1: to realize that if I gotten older in my life,

1609
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: everything that I'm accumulated doesn't mean anything if I don't

1610
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: have anybody to share it with. And it took me

1611
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: spending time alone to realize that, yes, yea, and you're

1612
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,680
Speaker 1: great at what you do. You you're in the Hall

1613
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: of fame, You're accomplished a lot. But at the end

1614
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: of the day, who do you share it with? But

1615
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 1: then this is a problem. How do you find the

1616
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 1: right person to share it with when it's still gonna

1617
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,720
Speaker 1: be what you have on the table? Because this is you.

1618
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 1: Are they dealing with you for you or what you

1619
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 1: have to offer you? How you figure that one? Now,

1620
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 1: that's a hard part. Even even at at this I

1621
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 1: guess I'm gonna have to find somebody that that has something.

1622
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 1: And I tell people, look, I want someone to bring

1623
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 1: something to the picnic beside your appetite. I don't care

1624
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:00,120
Speaker 1: if it's fork, I don't care if it's napkins, I

1625
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 1: don't care if it's the mashed potatoes with raises on time,

1626
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 1: but bring something something right and so we can work.

1627
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,680
Speaker 1: We can work from that I don't care if you

1628
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:11,679
Speaker 1: have kids, I will take gracularly accept the kids. Your

1629
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 1: family becomes my family because like I would do for

1630
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 1: my family. If you come to me and say, hey,

1631
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 1: my mom and dad are having trouble, Okay, your mom

1632
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 1: and dad ain't got no trouble. Right once you with me,

1633
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 1: your your family ain't got no. Your mom and dad

1634
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: ain't got no trouble. Your kids ain't got no. Whether

1635
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 1: they're our kids, your kid, they kids. That's that's that's

1636
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: the way I look at I like that. So we

1637
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: had we had the same mind the mindset. Once that union,

1638
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 1: everything is reunited. It's one umbrella. It's all problems. Okay.

1639
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 1: I like that. I like the part where you said

1640
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 1: at least bring something to the table, because I think

1641
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 1: that's an argument something that we all have issues with

1642
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 1: as men. And I think some men that have money,

1643
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 1: men men of men of wealth, really don't care about

1644
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 1: times when women have anything to offer because it allows

1645
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 1: them so much more control when they don't have anything

1646
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 1: because they have to rely on them. Yeah, I don't.

1647
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 1: I don't want ego, ego driven, ego driven or you

1648
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 1: don't even not got you right, and then they able

1649
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 1: to get away with with murder because they got to

1650
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 1: rely on him. No, I want you to have your

1651
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 1: own independence. I don't never want you to become dependent

1652
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 1: right on me, right something. I just want you to

1653
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: know that if something were to happen to me, you're

1654
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,560
Speaker 1: more than taking care of right you. Good families is

1655
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: taken care of. And so that's the thing, Chad. Over

1656
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, I've sat down to realize,

1657
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 1: I need to find someone to love me like I

1658
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: love foot. I need to find someone that loves me

1659
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: like I love undisputed, love me like I love doing

1660
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 1: what I'm doing here on club shape like that. So, ladies,

1661
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:48,839
Speaker 1: your numbers still the same. There's the ladies called Shannon

1662
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 1: three two three. You know you don't look I just

1663
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 1: but I'm but but somebody's gonna have to accept me

1664
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 1: because I'm not an outload. I'm a very very private person.

1665
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: When I say I'm private up ultra private, I don't.

1666
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm not a red carpet guy. I'm not a post

1667
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:10,679
Speaker 1: on social media. Because this is this is what I've learned.

1668
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 1: People can't iff up what they don't know about. The

1669
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 1: moment somebody knows about something, they'll try to mix it up.

1670
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 1: I don't care how I might. I'm doing my own thing.

1671
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 1: I don't bother nobody. Nobody can never tell you Shannon

1672
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 1: Sharp bother them or Shannon Sharp said anything bad about them.

1673
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 1: But the moment they know something about you, they'll ef

1674
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,600
Speaker 1: it up. So for me, I just stay to myself.

1675
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:35,679
Speaker 1: Not really, but if I'm I'm not private. I'm very outgoing,

1676
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 1: especially with the kids, the missus. But if you're not

1677
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 1: doing nothing wrong, there's really nothing for anybody tol up. No.

1678
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 1: But see, here's the thing. What's wrong is that people lie.

1679
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 1: People lie, and sometimes just the mention of impropriety is

1680
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 1: enough to sway people's opinion of you. Right right, I

1681
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 1: don't need to have done anything, but somebody said I

1682
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 1: did something. And you know, even when it comes out

1683
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: with that it happened, well it could have happened, you know.

1684
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: He probably they paid that person up. And then what

1685
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 1: because they're never gonna rent print the retraction like they

1686
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 1: ran with the original story. It's never as loud. I

1687
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 1: like that. I just started to myself, I'll find somebody

1688
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: God looked when I get up, when I find when

1689
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:17,600
Speaker 1: I fall on my knees every night, oh Joe, I

1690
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. I asked God to give me strength, goddess,

1691
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 1: and clarity. I thank him every morning for allowing me

1692
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: to wake up in my right mind, blood running with

1693
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,719
Speaker 1: my veins, and use to my limbs. But I asked

1694
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 1: for clarity and he showed me a lot. And Tyler

1695
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:33,640
Speaker 1: Perry had something. He says, sometimes people come in your

1696
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 1: life for a season that everybody's not meant to be

1697
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 1: in your life for longevity. He says, sometimes people are

1698
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 1: like rockets, the boosters on the spaceship. They take you

1699
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 1: up and then they fall off because that's as far

1700
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 1: as they can need to take it. I listened to

1701
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 1: that quote every single day for like the last six months,

1702
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 1: and I realized that now there are people that have

1703
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:54,600
Speaker 1: been in my life that were only there for a

1704
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 1: short period of time and that was all God meant

1705
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 1: them to be. I also realized that people pushed me

1706
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 1: to a height and that was far as they could push,

1707
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:03,560
Speaker 1: and now it's up to me to take it to

1708
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 1: go the rest of the way. I like that. I

1709
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 1: like that, so I think about the people that have

1710
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 1: been in my life, and I always say that sometimes

1711
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 1: people are lessing or they're blessing. Yeah. I think all

1712
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: the people that have that have been in my life

1713
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 1: at some point, whether it been friends, whether it's been romantic,

1714
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 1: whether it been whether we've had kids together, everybody's been

1715
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: a blessing, right, And I think I've been very, very

1716
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: very fortunate. I've been very fortunate that everybody that I've

1717
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 1: dealt with at some point was a blessing. And I

1718
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 1: think that's why this ship is sales so smooth. Right.

1719
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 1: We all work together as one unit, and I think

1720
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 1: that's very difficult, difficult for a lot of people to do.

1721
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 1: You know. Obviously we do some some grown folks ship

1722
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 1: you know, around here, to make sure the kids are good,

1723
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 1: the family is good. And if you ever need, like

1724
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 1: you said earlier, I said that earlier, we were talking,

1725
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 1: if anybody ever need, You're good. You're set for life

1726
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 1: is long with this in moderation and you're not trying

1727
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 1: to live this lifestyle that you know. Yeah, if you

1728
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 1: try to live a lifestyle, you be able to board

1729
01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: that and I can help I can help you out.

1730
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 1: Yeah there, you know, I gotta go out in mad school. Yeah, Hey, okay,

1731
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 1: we're good. You're in math school, okay, Yeah, Okay, I

1732
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 1: like that. We're gonna have a shop, We're gonna have

1733
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 1: adopted at the house. It's hard to find it, though, Man,

1734
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 1: it's hard. It's it's hard to find. And I think

1735
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a whole. Yeah, you don't stop looking,

1736
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 1: But that's that's a whole, another whole, another show. But

1737
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 1: but I can keep going. But I but I but

1738
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: I see, I see. I listen at you talk about

1739
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 1: the woman that you're engaged to that's become of your wife,

1740
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 1: and I can feel the excitement. I can see the

1741
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:34,639
Speaker 1: happiness you exude. I saw in all five seasons when

1742
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 1: you before you think about marrying somebody or being with

1743
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 1: a being with somebody for a long time, you got

1744
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 1: to see him in all five seasons. You gotta see

1745
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 1: him angry and upset. You gotta see him mad, you

1746
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 1: gotta see him broke. You gotta see everything because you

1747
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 1: need to understand what you're getting and didn't also understand.

1748
01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 1: We think about relationships, we think about marriage and think

1749
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 1: it's it's always pieces of the the cream. That ain't that

1750
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 1: ain't you gotta date that person. Somebody told me to

1751
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 1: say married, you gotta date that person. Every single day ay,

1752
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:11,480
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be some days I can't stand. It's motherfucker,

1753
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 1: It's gonna be days like that. That's life, that's life

1754
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 1: in general. But I can't live without this individual. Right.

1755
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 1: If there's something, if there was someone I want to

1756
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 1: wake up to every day to continue to build with,

1757
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,639
Speaker 1: it's you can get with. It's who you can't live

1758
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 1: without now, and we could be building legos. I want

1759
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 1: to building legos with you. M I am man. So

1760
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 1: now you got me thinking now I'm about to get

1761
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 1: out here. I forgot that before. I wanted to get

1762
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 1: you out of here. The celebrity boxer. You did that.

1763
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 1: I'm not done, and I don't I don't know what

1764
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 1: to get. Yeah, but listen, and I don't like where

1765
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 1: you say a celebrity boxing because I ain't fought no celebt.

1766
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 1: Oh you've fought a real nude. Yeah, you fight Ben Knuckle.

1767
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 1: You fight Ben Knuckle and got a couple of good

1768
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 1: licks on the chat. I thought you won. I did win.

1769
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 1: What you mean? I just had to knocked down a

1770
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 1: because I was tired. I only had three weeks to

1771
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 1: get ready. That's Floyd fault. But giving me a short

1772
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 1: amount of time to get ready for a fight. Three

1773
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 1: weeks it a campus. Three came together that quick. No

1774
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 1: they somebody, I think somebody didn't somebody. They try to

1775
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 1: feel a spot? You feel a spot real late? Ask

1776
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: me do I want to move around? And say, yeah,

1777
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 1: I move around because I use boxing to get ready

1778
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 1: for every every football season. Yeah. Not. You had the

1779
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 1: fundamental of then, yeah, yeah, that's why I looked the

1780
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:30,600
Speaker 1: way I did it until I got tired. Right, you know,

1781
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 1: it looked a box of a different animal. You don't understand.

1782
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 1: You don't understand what tired is. I don't. I don't

1783
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 1: think they do. I don't think they do. They don't.

1784
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 1: And when people asking hard but the whole time, what's

1785
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:41,600
Speaker 1: the first thing you do? You get tired with the

1786
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 1: head you need down, which is when I got hit

1787
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 1: with with my hand. Happened down. Yeah, but I'm supposed to.

1788
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:50,679
Speaker 1: I haven't left the gym since twenty twenty one. Okay,

1789
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 1: so I've had a year under my belt. Continue to

1790
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 1: get technically good and savvy. There's a fight coming up.

1791
01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can say this. Can I

1792
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 1: say this? It doesn't matter, Kayleb Plannings have a fight

1793
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 1: coming up. And I might, I might be on the

1794
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 1: undercar to that. I've gotten to the point where I've

1795
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 1: gotten that polish where I can Yeah, yeah, I train.

1796
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 1: I trained with Bowsy Innis and fill it. You know,

1797
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 1: you know Boots obviously, Yeah, I heard of him. Yeah,

1798
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: So I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited, and people ask,

1799
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 1: why are you doing boxing? What you're doing with I

1800
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 1: need the structure and fucking discipline that football provided. Oh

1801
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 1: I need it. I need it. I still have the

1802
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 1: urge to compete now, it's just in a different sport.

1803
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 1: It's in a different sport. And if I don't put

1804
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 1: in the work, like on Sunday, I get exposed. So

1805
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 1: if I don't put in the work, I want to

1806
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 1: get up and go. I want to spar. I want

1807
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 1: to win six miles Monday, Wednesday and Friday. I want

1808
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 1: to spar and do conditioning Tuesday and Thursdays. I want

1809
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 1: to swim because when I get in the ring, it

1810
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 1: shows up. If I don't do it, then I get exposed. Yeah,

1811
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 1: it also shows up. This this diet I heard you

1812
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 1: say on several occasions, and you're like, man idea McDonald's.

1813
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 1: McDonald's helped me do all this and all that. If

1814
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 1: you ever think that if I if I ate riots

1815
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:19,680
Speaker 1: and chicken breads, and I ate good salads, if I

1816
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 1: put quality food in my body because you're a Ferrari,

1817
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 1: you don't put low tess gas in the ferrar You

1818
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 1: putting the premium. You putting low tess getting food in

1819
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 1: your in your system? Is that? Is that how you

1820
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:31,640
Speaker 1: take it? I like that quote? Is that how you

1821
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 1: take it? So? I've never been you played? How long

1822
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 1: you played? How many years you've been hurt? Your phone?

1823
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 1: I have you have? Yeah? You know why. I'm gonna

1824
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 1: tell you why I'm there. Do you know why you

1825
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 1: got hurt? Yeah? Why I broke my collar bone? I

1826
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 1: got fractioned. But eyes side, I know you know why. Yeah,

1827
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 1: because it's a violent sport. Not because it's a violent sport.

1828
01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 1: Because I played eleven years and never got hurt. You

1829
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 1: know why? You ate like a rabbit. That's why you

1830
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 1: got hurt. You ate like a rabbit. Your eyes sick it? Yeah,

1831
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 1: color bone, I ain't never got hurt. I got hit

1832
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 1: my color bone. I landed on it all type of ways.

1833
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 1: My body just able to two piles. Who when I played,

1834
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 1: I was two. I was two O five two five,

1835
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 1: I was who no, but I never got it was

1836
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,520
Speaker 1: your diet. It was your diet. You and you're consuming

1837
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 1: all this healthy stuff, as they say, and you're playing

1838
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 1: a violent, barbaric sport. The two don't even go fucking

1839
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 1: hand in hand. They don't go ahead in hand. Never

1840
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 1: got hurt, never, And I played reckless at one five,

1841
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 1: like you said, ran into rate twice a year. Everything

1842
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 1: you had done, made ten Pro bowls, not really, you

1843
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 1: know what I want people to stop doing it, stopped

1844
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: having people believing if you eat healthy, all of a sudden,

1845
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna be great. They love using Lebron and Tom

1846
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 1: Brady as an example. Listen, you ain't Tom Brady at home,

1847
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 1: and you ain't Lebron. You have to have a foundation

1848
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 1: in the skill set in the DNA to go with it.

1849
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, the healthy thing is, it's cool,

1850
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:06,640
Speaker 1: but it's just it wasn't for you. It wasn't for me,

1851
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 1: and I understood would work for my body, right, and

1852
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 1: it's done wondering and still to this day, I'm still active,

1853
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 1: still moving with no injuries. When current athletes reach out

1854
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:18,719
Speaker 1: to you, what advice do you give them football wise,

1855
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 1: are off the field wise whatever. Most of the time

1856
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 1: the athletes in today's game reach out, it's receiver stuff,

1857
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 1: and I always I'm ready to work, footwork, right, running,

1858
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm ready to work. Other than that, it's more financial advice, right,

1859
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 1: And most of the time I say, man, listen to

1860
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 1: enjoy yourself, liby life. You worked hard to get to

1861
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 1: this point. But understand, the true value is not in

1862
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:44,760
Speaker 1: the stuff that you can buy, purchase and were the

1863
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 1: people that you're gonna meet right now are gonna be gone.

1864
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 1: They are seasonal Honestly that that's that's just the truth.

1865
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 1: I just keep it real as I can. You used

1866
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 1: to do a podcast. You hey, my boys, what what? Why?

1867
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 1: Why aren't you on that anymore? Listen? My schedule, my schedule.

1868
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 1: It got tough, It got really tough. Man. I miss

1869
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 1: I missed Brandon, I missed Brandon, missed the entire I

1870
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 1: am Athlete family. It just I had so much other

1871
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:15,800
Speaker 1: stuff going on and it demanded all of me, and

1872
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 1: I didn't want to give I am athlete just a

1873
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 1: little bit, like if I'm gonna do something, I have

1874
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 1: to be embedded and engulfed in it. So the people

1875
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 1: watching and I am athlete as well. They got all

1876
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 1: of me and I wasn't able to give them that right.

1877
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 1: Could they have made it financially, make you to give

1878
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 1: you all of you? Yeah? Yeah, Financially it wasn't issue,

1879
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 1: and it wasn't financial. Finances wasn't the issue at that point,

1880
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 1: because that's that's not why I was doing that. I

1881
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:40,759
Speaker 1: was doing it because I love being on the platform.

1882
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:43,479
Speaker 1: I love Brandon right, love him to death, and anytime

1883
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 1: the camera's on, I'm ready to go. Yeah. But I

1884
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 1: just had so much other stuff going on, so where

1885
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 1: it was it was becoming too much. Another one of

1886
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 1: your Florida brothers and Tonio Brown, we've seen some of

1887
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:56,120
Speaker 1: the things that have happened to him over the last

1888
01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 1: My baby, if you if you could tell a b so,

1889
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 1: if you could talk to him, I don't know if

1890
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 1: you have, if you could, I have. I haven't bothered him,

1891
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 1: but I'm sure you're gonna see this, right, what's my camera? Yeah, baby,

1892
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 1: I love you forever. I love you, and that's it.

1893
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 1: That's it. I'm not one to the scrutinize. I'm not

1894
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 1: one to talk about uh. If I am gonna talk

1895
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 1: to him, if there's something I need to say. It

1896
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 1: would be said in private, you know. And we we've

1897
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:28,719
Speaker 1: been we've been together so long, even before before football,

1898
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:31,720
Speaker 1: right before football, right from Miami right. And also that

1899
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:34,519
Speaker 1: is one I will always hold down. We all make mistakes,

1900
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 1: we all fall short of whatever it is in life

1901
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 1: that we want to do during those times, I'm one

1902
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 1: that will lift my brother up right, you know, and

1903
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 1: not not talk about him. I love him to death.

1904
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:50,120
Speaker 1: Do I agree with everything he does? Absolutely not. That's

1905
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 1: a part of life. That's a part of having a brother.

1906
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:54,920
Speaker 1: He's not gonna like everything he does. But you shot

1907
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,519
Speaker 1: him down, you talk to him and you know, let

1908
01:35:57,560 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 1: him know. Look, that's that's that's let's try this way

1909
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:01,519
Speaker 1: because it's ride ain't work whatever whatever it may be.

1910
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm just just speaking in general. But I haven't had

1911
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 1: the opportunity to talk to him because I've been on

1912
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,160
Speaker 1: the go. But I'm gonna catch up with him one day.

1913
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:11,719
Speaker 1: What's next? You've done bull riding, soccer, acting, boxing, racing,

1914
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:14,640
Speaker 1: horse wrestling in the WWE, Dancing with the Star. What

1915
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 1: is next for Otosinko? Swimming with swimming with orcas. That's

1916
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 1: that's my that's that's my last cap cabbo Uh. In

1917
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:26,759
Speaker 1: New Zealand and Norway, you can swim, you can scoop

1918
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 1: a die with the oracas, and I look forward to that.

1919
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 1: I really look forward to that. That is that is

1920
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 1: a dream of mine, as was being in NFL. Obviously,

1921
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:37,640
Speaker 1: I told you earlier I wanted to be a marine

1922
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 1: marine biologists. I wanted to be a veterinarian. I know

1923
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 1: everything areas to know about orcas, and people will say,

1924
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:44,880
Speaker 1: oh my god, you're gonna get getting getting the water

1925
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:46,600
Speaker 1: with killer whales in the wild, They're gonna kill you.

1926
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 1: They call kill it wealth for reason. If you know

1927
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:50,799
Speaker 1: anything about them, especially in a while, you would understand

1928
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 1: that there have been no attacks and never have been,

1929
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:55,479
Speaker 1: and in no in Norway, in New Zealand, they're no

1930
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:59,719
Speaker 1: different than having dogs at home because they just swim

1931
01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 1: right up to you in the wild and people are

1932
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:03,760
Speaker 1: used to it out that way, and I want that experience.

1933
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 1: I'm sick of seeing videos of people in Norway, New

1934
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 1: Zealand living the dream that I want. I wish you'd

1935
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 1: best to up with that. You can go if you

1936
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 1: want to. I'm good. I watched him. I watch him,

1937
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 1: and I go to the zoo or something. And I

1938
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:19,120
Speaker 1: see him in the aquarium. You know, Atlanta got a

1939
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 1: nice aquarium out there. Yeah, they do the thing. I know,

1940
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 1: kill all got killed that that's okay. I watched him

1941
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 1: on TV on that geo. Yeah, the second half or

1942
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 1: what's next. It's being a great husband and doing it

1943
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:35,680
Speaker 1: the right way. Man. I see the matturation that you've

1944
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 1: gone through. I see the the metamorphosis, the stages with

1945
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:42,599
Speaker 1: which you become you with this and this, and now

1946
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 1: you're here. It's almost like a one eighty year full circle.

1947
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 1: You got to because if I'm if I'm staggering in life,

1948
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 1: to him, I'm not evolving. That's that's what's so great

1949
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 1: about media. I will find me, and you did it.

1950
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 1: I know I can do it if you can do it.

1951
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 1: Our condition, but a face like this, if I can

1952
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:04,240
Speaker 1: find somebody, Yeah, what I'm saying is possible for anybody. Yeah, yeah,

1953
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 1: you got somebody in mind. You can let him know why.

1954
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,479
Speaker 1: It's not the time. I ain't got nobody do that.

1955
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 1: Don't do that. I can see it because you blink.

1956
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 1: You blink twice. I ain't got nobody by you blink twice.

1957
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah you do. I see let it know, talk to us.

1958
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 1: I ain't got nobody tell I ain't. No, come on,

1959
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:25,280
Speaker 1: don't do that. I ain't got nobody. You do, I don't.

1960
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 1: I really don't. You do, I don't, I really don't.

1961
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 1: I bet we're your phone at in my back. Oh

1962
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 1: it's over there. Yeah, I bet if you used to

1963
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 1: grab your phone within the first three text messages in

1964
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,639
Speaker 1: your phone, I guarantee you the one is right there,

1965
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 1: and you're gonna see my sister. You're gonna see my sister.

1966
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 1: Uh uh, you're gonna see my agent. All right, let's

1967
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 1: stop right there, like I just said in the first three, Yeah,

1968
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 1: your assistant might be that one. No no, no, no,

1969
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 1: no no, my assistant is my sister. See that's that's

1970
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 1: that's that's them right now. No, no, no. When when

1971
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:01,720
Speaker 1: you when you were from me, Yeah, that's what you do.

1972
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 1: If whatever you do, that's what you do. If you're

1973
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 1: my agent, you're my agent, you're my sister, you're my sister,

1974
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 1: if you're my massias therapist. You I don't mix business

1975
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:12,680
Speaker 1: and pleasure. I never have I never will. Maybe that's

1976
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 1: the problem because I've never done it. I know I'm

1977
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:16,800
Speaker 1: not gonna do it. All right, but you're gonna be

1978
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 1: in the same situation, so maybe we can revisit this

1979
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:22,640
Speaker 1: four years, five years, nah, nah, my sister and now

1980
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 1: we have a different type of relationship. Okay, I'm just listening,

1981
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:27,559
Speaker 1: all right, I'm just just I'm here. I'm here to help.

1982
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 1: I'm I used. I'm a behavioral therapist, so I'm I

1983
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 1: can help you in a situation like this. That's another

1984
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 1: part of me I haven't been able to talk about. Now.

1985
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm good now, but I hate I'm good right now.

1986
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 1: I got dogs. I got another dog. I'm getting another

1987
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 1: dog in a couple of weeks. Dog. Ye you're into

1988
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:46,000
Speaker 1: the dogs too. Yeah, how much you paid for him?

1989
01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 1: I got five? I got five, and then I just

1990
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 1: played another five and then playing an another three to

1991
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 1: get him shipped over here. So about one of the

1992
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 1: Pomeranian and one of the South African boar bao. Yeah,

1993
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 1: it's a South African masket. Okay, okay, okay, okay, that's

1994
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:05,960
Speaker 1: a that's a funny combination. Yeah, I still got the

1995
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:09,840
Speaker 1: little one that's about thirteen a Pomerania teen. Yeah, about

1996
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 1: to be thirteen and twenty six this month. That's that's

1997
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 1: what that black black, black block. He fond. He was

1998
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 1: a fond color. But I got him cut like a

1999
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:23,280
Speaker 1: lion for real. The big body shade, body shave, and

2000
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:26,439
Speaker 1: then the little palm that's coming in a couple of weeks.

2001
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:29,800
Speaker 1: He's black and tan. Okay, named Teddy. Wait, obviously you're

2002
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 1: not maiden, so you have no no, no, no, they're

2003
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:35,759
Speaker 1: all be off Okay, okays like I do. I'm an animal,

2004
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:38,599
Speaker 1: grow up on a farm, so I wish I could

2005
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:40,799
Speaker 1: have a have a raccoon. But in the state of California,

2006
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:42,640
Speaker 1: you cannot having that coon as a pant. That's a

2007
01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:45,439
Speaker 1: good one. That's a different one. Yeah, I've already researched it.

2008
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 1: I thought about it. I tried. You could do it. No,

2009
01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 1: you can't. Who don't know? Nah, I'm good, it's not good.

2010
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:53,479
Speaker 1: It ain't worth it. I don't. I don't do anything

2011
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 1: that that's gonna risk be going to jail or miss

2012
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:59,599
Speaker 1: been having a raccoon? Ain't you going to jail? They

2013
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 1: come in and then you know. No, I like to

2014
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:04,600
Speaker 1: follow the rules. I follow the rules. I don't I

2015
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 1: follow them too. No you California, Okay, brouh, we're leaving.

2016
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 1: We leave shit me maybe they ask them, No shit,

2017
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 1: I ain't ready to go nowhere. We're up. We're there

2018
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 1: for three hours. Yeah, as we've been going to see

2019
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 1: Jake to Yeah, I'm going. I'm good at this ship.

2020
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 1: Come on, keep going. Yeah, we gotta go. We're living

2021
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 1: for real. Yeah, bruh, I appreciate that. Yeah, I do.

2022
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:34,560
Speaker 1: Where are you going? I gotta go to work, I

2023
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:37,200
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta prep. You do realize I just don't

2024
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 1: get on air and just talk right. Let me get

2025
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:40,559
Speaker 1: on that. Let me get on the show to my heart,

2026
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:44,000
Speaker 1: because I can get on there and talk. I don't

2027
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 1: even need no prep. You know what you need to do.

2028
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:47,799
Speaker 1: But you need to reach out to Skip or the producers.

2029
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:49,360
Speaker 1: I ain't reaching out to them. I want you to

2030
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 1: go in there. I just want to walk on set

2031
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:53,559
Speaker 1: and do what do you sit there? And I can

2032
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 1: go through the A block, the B block, the sea block,

2033
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:58,719
Speaker 1: because I know every sport and everything y'all talking about. Okay,

2034
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell them, Sek I want to come on

2035
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:02,479
Speaker 1: to show tomorrow. Don't even tell him that. Just let

2036
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 1: me crash the set. Uh, you know what? A TV

2037
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:07,680
Speaker 1: don't work like that, I'm sure, Dougie explained that that's

2038
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:10,560
Speaker 1: what makes it that's much more fun, the fact that

2039
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 1: they don't know what's happening and I do it. Well,

2040
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 1: they're not gonna let you the building. I can get

2041
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:17,080
Speaker 1: in the building. Well, I'm pretty sure you can't. My face,

2042
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 1: I can't. You want a bed, I'm going to jail

2043
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 1: because I'm black. I'm nothing. This was good, This is

2044
01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 1: good all my life, the grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle,

2045
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:38,680
Speaker 1: bad price, Want a slice, Got the broller, dice to

2046
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 1: swath all my life. I've been grinding in all my life,

2047
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:45,880
Speaker 1: all my life, the grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle,

2048
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 1: bad to price, want a slice, Got the broller, dice

2049
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 1: to swath all my life. I've been grinding in all

2050
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:51,920
Speaker 1: my life.