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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. You're in the presence of divine science.

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Speaker 1: Me and BC do not ascribe to y'all's theory of nonviolence.

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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone. It is the first of November. It's the

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Speaker 1: first of the month, Bone Thugs and Harmony style and

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Speaker 1: it is time for MK Morning Combat. How are you doing? Welcome, Welcome,

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Speaker 1: top of the morning to you. And if you're BC

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Speaker 1: early morning. So let's say hi to him now. He's

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Speaker 1: the King of Connecticut. He's my friend and yours. It's

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. What's up BC.

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Speaker 2: I might have to be more like the Prince of

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Speaker 2: from the Great Glover to share keeping us old guys

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Speaker 3: But Luke, I am in.

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Speaker 2: Sin City, Las Vegas. Hey, by the way, it's great

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Speaker 2: to be here when it's not one hundred and nineteen

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Speaker 2: degrees every day like it was for Connor paly Way three.

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Speaker 3: I am on the grounds.

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Speaker 2: I know you will be joining me shortly, but on

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Speaker 2: night Showtime pay per view. Luke, I could feel it.

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Speaker 2: I could just I could feel it, you know what

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Speaker 1: I can feel it coming in the air tonight as well.

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Speaker 1: Be see. I'm good to see that you're in good health.

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Speaker 1: There weekend at Showtime, you got to see them. They

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Speaker 3: Look, this feels big this week, Luke.

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Speaker 2: So I could not be more excited to be here.

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Speaker 3: Fired up.

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Speaker 2: It's day three of a ten day Vegas bender, so

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Speaker 2: But for now, you know, happy healthy.

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Speaker 1: Ten days on the Vegas strip. Is that's your liver

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Speaker 1: this goes all right, First things first, though, housekeeping notes

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Speaker 1: as a subscriber, you came from UFC two sixty seven

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Speaker 1: coverage post fight. Welcome. We do this three times a

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Speaker 2: People love our long and you know looked you know,

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about that, because you're not the only

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Speaker 2: It's inspiring in our day to day life, Luke to

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Speaker 2: it's hard, you know, I don't want to be labored,

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Speaker 2: but it feels good as a fan, as a journalist

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Speaker 3: It feels really good, Luke.

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Speaker 2: But I did send you text the second after that

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Speaker 2: The yata sonya win. We take nothing away from him.

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Speaker 2: It was smart, it was big, But I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: he's absolutely, without questioning, the best two hundred and five

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Speaker 2: It may have been a big win for Vidim Memkoff

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's somebody in that Delator stable. Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: The whole idea is like the idea that Yan was unimpeachably.

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Speaker 1: Number one was never true and it's definitely not true now,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love when people are like, oh, Luke's just

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Speaker 3: You know, Luke?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys, just you should ask, Yeah, you should

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Speaker 1: it compare to Foreman in his forties recapturing the heavyweight title?

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Speaker 2: You know, age wise, it's it's gonna draw an applicable

433
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Speaker 2: comparison with Obviously, Forman a little older, was forty five,

434
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Speaker 2: but I think Foreman's situation was much more unique in

435
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Speaker 2: the fact that you know, it took ten years off

436
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,320
Speaker 2: of his career, it retired to become a preacher when

437
00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,760
Speaker 2: he completed Opposite Infection and then just makes this comeback

438
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 2: and no one wants to believe in them and they

439
00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 2: think it's only for money, and then.

440
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Speaker 3: You know he actually lost.

441
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Speaker 2: I mean, Foreman didn't just walk back into boxing and

442
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 2: knock out Michael Moore. You know, he had title shots

443
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 2: against Evander Holyfield, which he fought well and lost. He

444
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 2: had some wins and losses, and then took that more

445
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 2: more fight and you know it was a big underdog

446
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 2: and lost every second of that fight until he won

447
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 2: it by knockout. So there was an extra level of

448
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 2: drama mixed with that that that for now is always

449
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,399
Speaker 2: going to be the thing you point to for an

450
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Speaker 2: old guy, or that thing you point to for that

451
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Speaker 2: inspiring turnaround. But it's not that far away. It's certain.

452
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Speaker 2: You know, it's the second oldest UFC champion besides behind

453
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Speaker 2: Randy Kutour, who was what forty three the last time

454
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Speaker 2: he secured the UFC heavyweight title.

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Speaker 3: It's probably most unlikely.

456
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Speaker 2: Or unique from Foreman, because Foreman going away for a

457
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,920
Speaker 2: decade made it more dramatic when he came back.

458
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Speaker 3: But Clover didn't go away. He just kept grinding.

459
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Speaker 2: It just took us a long time to the idea

460
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Speaker 2: that this was going to be possible for him. To

461
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Speaker 2: some people, Luke, I don't even know if they thought

462
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Speaker 2: it was gonna be possible once they touched gloves on Saturday.

463
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Speaker 2: So it's it's not as you but it's unique within

464
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Speaker 2: its own right, and I think it's it's just as

465
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Speaker 2: it's inspiring for its own reasons.

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Speaker 1: I'll just say this too. I tweeted this, and I

467
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Speaker 1: think it's worth one more mention here. I don't if

468
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Speaker 1: I don't think any fighter can achieve what Glover to

469
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Speaker 1: Shaa has done unless you do what Glover to Shira did,

470
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Speaker 1: which is you have to just commit your life to

471
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Speaker 1: the martial arts. You have to commit your life to

472
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Speaker 1: showing up to practice when you don't feel like And

473
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Speaker 1: that's more than just being an athlete and more than

474
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Speaker 1: being a prize fighter. It's about having humility. It's about

475
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Speaker 1: leaving your ego at the door when you step on

476
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Speaker 1: the mats. It's about constant introspection and trying to live

477
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Speaker 1: a life of character. You've never heard a bad word

478
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Speaker 1: in the industry about Glover. You've never seen him get

479
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 1: sideways with people, even on pre fight weeks when they

480
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 1: were trashing him. You've just never He just doesn't live

481
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: that life. And so because of the way heat in

482
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Speaker 1: which he has taken on challenges and then accepted that

483
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Speaker 1: growth process that can only come with accepting not just

484
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Speaker 1: the challenge itself, but certain kinds of care traits that

485
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 1: have to be honed and developed and accepted. It's that

486
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: confluence together over time that has produced this. Anyone else

487
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Speaker 1: I think without having this kind of way of life

488
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Speaker 1: that is defined by the martial arts, they probably would

489
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Speaker 1: have quit long ago or who knows, but they wouldn't

490
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Speaker 1: be here. Glover is the rare type of guy that

491
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Speaker 1: shows you martial arts and prize fighting can be distinct,

492
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Speaker 1: but when they unite sometimes they can bring something together

493
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Speaker 1: pretty special.

494
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and something we didn't talk about but that got

495
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: kind of revealed for the first time in Glover's career

496
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 2: was the sort of origin story of how he left

497
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 2: Brazil and you know, and tried to come to the

498
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 2: US and failed and had to sit through that long

499
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Speaker 2: visa way.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's had a hell of a journey.

501
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Speaker 2: Look, I mean again, you know, I made the joke

502
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 2: this last week about you know, your run through MMA

503
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 2: media in the highs and lows.

504
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Speaker 3: It's comparable to Glover.

505
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Speaker 2: And I think that's part of you know, what you

506
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: and I have been able to bond quickly in building

507
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Speaker 2: our own chemistry for this show is the fact that,

508
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,679
Speaker 2: you know, we feel like we've been long suffering in

509
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 2: this business and maybe not picked out of the group

510
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 2: early and never gave up. And and I can't say

511
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Speaker 2: how inspiring this was, and Umn, what a freaking moment.

512
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Speaker 2: I mean, I know, like you know, we want we're

513
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: supposed to talk about euur aprol Hotska now, and he

514
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 2: was in the crowd, and for all we know, he

515
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: may do very bad things to this great old guy.

516
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Speaker 2: But uh, I'm actually somehow a year older than Glover

517
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Speaker 2: to cheraw, we're both Connecticut residents. I mean, doesn't he

518
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: look like he's about fifteen years older than me? Luke,

519
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 2: he's about light years more mature than.

520
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Speaker 1: I mean, But you know, fighting is sort of like

521
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: smoking as an occupation gonna it's gonna aid you. You

522
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's gonna aid you. And again, dude,

523
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Speaker 1: I don't know how long Glover's gonna hold this title,

524
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Speaker 1: you know, realistically speaking, like you mentioned, eur April Hodge

525
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Speaker 1: goes up there, we'll talk about an MK extra credit

526
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: Magna met Klaia is coming. Like you know, there's some

527
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: really really tough challenges, but just that, for a moment

528
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Speaker 1: in time, he kept his focus, he kept his work ethic,

529
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Speaker 1: he kept living his values, and finally one of the

530
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Speaker 1: doors began to open for him. Is a great moment.

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Speaker 1: And dude, did you also notice just like who in

532
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Speaker 1: MMA dislikes Glover to share a I can't find anybody

533
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: I could find disappointed Yon Belokhovitch fans, Yes, those existed,

534
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: But like, who are the people that are like, man,

535
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: fuck Glover? They don't. I don't think anyone is as

536
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: universally liked an MMA as maybe Glover to share fair enough?

537
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah fuck Glover? Am I right? Yeah? Yeah? No no,

538
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Speaker 2: if I fully I fully agree with you, and if

539
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 2: I'm Yon Blohovich, I take that rope that he grabbed

540
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Speaker 2: from the hanging forest, I burn it. Enough with that gamic.

541
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's always bothered you. The dead man thing. Why

542
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Speaker 1: is that?

543
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 2: And I think it's I don't like it. I don't

544
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Speaker 2: like it. Okay, I live by I'm a man of

545
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: uh you know, I live by a creed a code.

546
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Speaker 2: Luke that that goes against that?

547
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Speaker 1: Okay? All right? Yeah, if you're gonna touch yourself on buses,

548
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Speaker 1: you put a jacket over the top. Is that your Yeah?

549
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Speaker 2: I mean have some class, right, have some have some

550
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Speaker 2: dignity here?

551
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Speaker 1: All right? We go to topic number two. By the way,

552
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: we're you know, there's so much but could be said

553
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: about all of these things. If you want more, you

554
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: can check on my out live reaction on YouTube dot

555
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Speaker 1: com slash Morning Combat. But for topic number two, we

556
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 1: had another belt that was awarded, maybe an interim belt.

557
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: But see here's the difference between what Glover did and

558
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Speaker 1: what pewter Yan did. Yon to me looks like the

559
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: unassailable best bansomweight on Earth. He defeated Cody Sandhagen forty

560
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: nine forty six across the board. Look pretty good for

561
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: san Haagen in the first round. I think most folks

562
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: gave him that round. But after that it was more

563
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Speaker 1: or less the Pewter Yan show, OKBC, does this win

564
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Speaker 1: prove he is the best bansomweight in the division even

565
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Speaker 1: if the title says interim before Yeah.

566
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Speaker 2: People picketting outside of Morning Combat studios last week telling

567
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Speaker 2: us we're Yan hater's probably gonna do the same this week,

568
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: telling us we're sterling haters somehow, No, we are no

569
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: seekers seekers, soothers and presenters of the truth look, and

570
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 2: the truth is Pyotr Jan is a bad man. He

571
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 2: is a He was one of the ten pound for

572
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: pound best in this game. He solidified that statement, cemented

573
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Speaker 2: it with that performance. Yes, he's the best band and

574
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Speaker 2: weight in the world. Luke, I was so happy that

575
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: this lived really completely up to its expectations coming in.

576
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Speaker 2: I wanted to get super excited and say, this is

577
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Speaker 2: one of the best fights you can make interim, full

578
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 2: or no title at all in the sport, in the

579
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Speaker 2: deepest division, two of the most talented guys in their prime.

580
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Speaker 3: Luke, they gave us some incredible theater.

581
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Speaker 2: I didn't want to go as far as Michael Chandler

582
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: tweeting out, was that the greatest title fight UFC history

583
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: wasn't but that was an incredible fight. Both guys kept

584
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: insanely high motor. They made great adjustments at the highest level,

585
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: but it was Payota Yan's adjustments after that opening round

586
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Speaker 2: in which he let san Haagan kind of get off

587
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Speaker 2: in switch stances and show the full package. Really, you know,

588
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: was taking notes and downloading the situation and when he

589
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 2: adjusted it round two to figure out how to time

590
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Speaker 2: san Haagan with countershots. Everything Yan throws is powerful, and

591
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Speaker 2: when he's gonna have the success he had in this

592
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: fight in terms of accuracy, it's gonna win out. Sanagan

593
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 2: got to certain points where you're like, damn, he's gonna

594
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: have to do something dramatic.

595
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 3: I know, I predicted him by submission, and.

596
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: It looked like there were moments on the ground where

597
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 2: you thought he could put something together. But the other

598
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: thing I said, Luke, I didn't pick Yan, and he

599
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: proved me. You know, he proved to me that he's

600
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 2: better than I thought he was. But the one thing

601
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: I said that made it difficult picking against Yan is like,

602
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: really can't find the distinct hole in his game that

603
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 2: you go after, And boy did he showcase that completely

604
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: well rounded game. I mean, play that gift right now

605
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 2: of him landing the punch, the spinning back fist and

606
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: then adding a kick. There's the end of it right there, right,

607
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: I mean, some of these combinations he put out was

608
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: just killer. His defense was sound, he was tough as nails.

609
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 2: This was a great showcase of what this division offers. Yan. Okay,

610
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: if we got to do the Sterling rematch next, that's fine,

611
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: but I want to see Yan against TJ. Dillishaw.

612
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 3: I want to see Yan against Henry so Kudo.

613
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: To be really fair with you, this guy is legitet Luke,

614
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: and it may may take more time for him to

615
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 2: get that full title back, but what a frickin' fight

616
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: performance from the champion.

617
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Speaker 1: I mean, think about this. BC. Cory Sandhagen, in many

618
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: ways has almost the completely opposite style of Jose Aldo.

619
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: Jose Aldo is much more of a plant and counter guy,

620
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: not a whole lot I mean some lateral movement, of course,

621
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Speaker 1: you know, he definitely slip punches and whatnot, and so

622
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: there are some similarities, to be sure, but there's many, many,

623
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: many important differences versus Cory Sandhagen. Who is you saw

624
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: in the first round. Just constantly moving motion is essential

625
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: to everything, and in both cases he just took pieces

626
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: from them over time, to the point whereby the fourth round,

627
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: didn't he finish Jose in the fourth round? I have

628
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: to go back and double check that. Maybe it was

629
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: the fifth, but.

630
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Speaker 2: I trying to forget that those rabbit punches to the

631
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: head as Jose bled. I try to forget that ever happened.

632
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: Okay, some of that was got a little far and

633
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: that fight could have been stopped a little bit earlier,

634
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: I agree, But in general, the point still stands, and

635
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: this guy systemically took two guys apart who were top

636
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: contenders in that division and they have very dissimilar styles.

637
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: To your point about what's the obvious gaping hole in

638
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: his game, I don't know. I don't know. The one

639
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: thing you could maybe argue was three round fights versus five,

640
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: because he tends to give away the first in the

641
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: five round fights, maybe he might do something similar in

642
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: the first, But like, that's not even relevant anymore because

643
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: either he's gonna have the belt or he's gonna be

644
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: in main event slots where the fights are gonna be

645
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: five rounds any goddamn way, So that's out the door. Dude,

646
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: This is a guy, and I think you would agree

647
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: with me, and this is something we're watching a lot

648
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: of boxing will really impact your judgment. And I mentioned

649
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: this on Saturday Night. You know this as well as

650
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: I do. The best boxers in the game are the

651
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: ones that don't necessarily although sometimes but don't necessarily come

652
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: out and just blow you away like a Jeron Ennis,

653
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: although they can do that, but at the highest highest level,

654
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: they just slowly take pieces from your game round over round,

655
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: So by round seven or eight, all the shit that

656
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: you thought was gonna work your A and your B

657
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: plan is completely out the window, and you're left just

658
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: kind of hunting something and chasing ghosts that aren't there. Dude,

659
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: p Gooder does that. Plus he's stronger than most of

660
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: his opponents. By the way, we should talk about what

661
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: a good athlete he is. Plus he can anti wrestle,

662
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: maybe the best in that division.

663
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: His takedown defense was a history in this fight, Luke.

664
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: Dude, his takedown defense and not I'd noticed it in

665
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: the Aldo fight too. Dude, his takedown defense and his

666
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: scrambling is maybe the best in that division. Everyone was

667
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: talking about Huto versus Volkanovsky. Man, take that shit somewhere else.

668
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: Y'all were just bored in September and we're willing to

669
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: entertain that.

670
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 3: But I doot luke.

671
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm still ready to entertain that.

672
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but hear me obviously, so houto versus Yon.

673
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: That is.

674
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: Sign me the fuck up for that. That is I'm

675
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: all in on that one. I think that makes a

676
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: lot of sense. And dude, this is a great time

677
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: to be a fan of the Bantamway division.

678
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: And the best part about Payota Yam when he watches

679
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: a fan is is you know, he's got that nasty,

680
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: almost villainous edge to him. You know, he's violent, but

681
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: normally guys like that tend to lean too hard into

682
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: that and it opens up holes in their games.

683
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: The fact that he carries the enough patience to be

684
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: able to sort.

685
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: Of dynamically do almost that you know, poor man's Floyd

686
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: Mayweather of sort of looking at the situation and making

687
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: on the fly adjustments. He's way smarter than just you know,

688
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: painting him as the foreign villain could ever you know, indicate.

689
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: And he's nasty.

690
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: He's freaking nasty in there.

691
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: So he's going to be fun to watch against everybody.

692
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 2: He's coming to his own completely. It was good to

693
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: see him get the redemption that was needed after the

694
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: mistake he made against Sterling and the way that fight ended.

695
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still got some more work to do to

696
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 3: get that full title back.

697
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: But shout out, shout out to Payoda, and we got

698
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: to see Danny RUP's hairline there in the picture, Luke,

699
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: which is always a plus.

700
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: It is certainly always a plus. So let's switch the

701
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: story here to Corey Sandhagen. Now, he got blown out

702
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: by al Jamin Sterling with that quick choke from the back, okay,

703
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: and he had a war with TJ Dillashat. In fairness,

704
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: I thought he won that, but the judges disagreed, so

705
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: he technically lost that one and this one no controversy

706
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: about it. Jan was clearly the better fighter, even san

707
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: Haagen himself admitting he was just better tonight. Where has

708
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: san Hagen gone wrong and where does he go right?

709
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: Because I think you would agree the guys. Still in

710
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: his twenties, there's plenty of reason to think he's going

711
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: to be back in a title fight, probably before too long.

712
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: But you want to make things different for him, how

713
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: do you diagnose his situation?

714
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: I mean it's tough because once he knew he was

715
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: unable to get this fight to the ground consistently, and

716
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: once he probably became aware of that he was down

717
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: on the cards. We needed him to be dramatic, and

718
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: I don't think Luke he's found yet in his game

719
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: that ability to be dramatic with heavy damage is not

720
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: that you know, he's gotten knockouts some that you know,

721
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 2: against Frank Jeger that damn and that's possible, but I

722
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: think there's still some more fine tuning to his game.

723
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: Once he was down, I just didn't see an avenue

724
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: for him to come back against somebody that great. And

725
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: Sanagan has world title ability and he's so close, and

726
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: you almost hate to see that works that hard, that's

727
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: that gritty. That's smart to come up empty now against

728
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: the three best fighters in the division. But you know,

729
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: they say, you know, in movies, you can't really have

730
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: a great hero unless you have a great villain. In

731
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: historically deep eras for certain divisions, you can't have these

732
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: great fighters unless you have other great fighters that lose.

733
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 3: To them at the highest level.

734
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: And right now san Haagan's the guy on the outside

735
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: looking in in this conversation. We can you know, we

736
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: can come we can, we can diagnose his his game

737
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: a little and say do this, don't do that, or

738
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: try to add this.

739
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 3: But how great are the guys that beat him?

740
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: Luke? And you know, oh you guys, your shot on Sterling. No,

741
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: you're gonna pray I've never shot on Sterling. Okay. I

742
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: just thought Jan showed us enough in that fight that

743
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: he was the better one, and was you know, unfortunate

744
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: the way it came together. But Corey's face the very best, Luke,

745
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: and and there's no shame in coming up short against

746
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: those guys. But he's gonna have to figure some other

747
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: out to have a shot at the end these fights.

748
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is he the doc think

749
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: of my diagnosed here real quickly. First thing I would

750
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: say is you took this month fight on a month's nose,

751
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: which I get because it's a it's for an interim title,

752
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: but more importantly it's against Yan, who I think most

753
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: people including me, think is the best Banta and wait

754
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: in that division. You know Sterling holds that title, but

755
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: I thought Jan was on the way to win that

756
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: pretty cleanly. And we'll see what happens the next time

757
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: they go out there. Just my opinion, So what needs

758
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 1: to be different, Dude? The motion style that he has

759
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: I think is right either for certain moments in a

760
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: fight or certain fighters. Completely, it was not right for

761
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: Peter Yan. You got to put something in his face

762
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: and that he respects that he must acknowledge to slow

763
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: down the adjustments he's making and the reeds he's making,

764
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: and his willingness to close distance. And there was just

765
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: there was. Some of the lakes were nice, the left

766
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: hooks to the body he was throwing, he was digging

767
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: those those were great. But if you're going to be

768
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: motioning so much and not really sitting down on the punches,

769
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: Jan is gonna be able to just kind of block

770
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: and roll with that and then still keep doing what

771
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: he's doing, is the first one. I also thought his

772
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: takedown defense to me, looked in infinitely better than we

773
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: had seen previously. But dude, here's one thing that like

774
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: all the bands and weights are gonna have to contend

775
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: with Peter Jan, Piotr Jan whatever, he might be the strongest,

776
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: most physical athlete in that division. Dude, he is hard

777
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: to take down. He is hard to hold down. When

778
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: he clinches, he moves his opponents around relatively easily, and

779
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: when he lands, he just lands with significantly more authority

780
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: than his peers. We'll see how things go against TJ. Dillashaw,

781
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: but I just feel like dude takes some time to

782
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: muscle up a little bit, if you can, because if not,

783
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: Dudon is just too much of a quite literal, He's

784
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: so smart and so talented. He's also a physical powerhouse,

785
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: and I don't think folks have really wrapped their head

786
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: around that fully yet.

787
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: Luke san Higgin's got a good ground game, do you

788
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: think he needs to get to even higher levels of

789
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: grappling and jiu jitsu so that he's more of a

790
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: submission threat and that might offset the fact that, you know,

791
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: he's not always a big knockout thread and you know

792
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: he kind of needs to control the terms of the

793
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: fight to have the great amount of success.

794
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: So yes, and no, I don't think ultimately if he

795
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: if he didn't, if he did nothing, but like, you know,

796
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: just sort of continually through training and prove his ground game,

797
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: but not like in a hyper focused way, just sort

798
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: of a normal way, but then really hyper focus some

799
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: of these other changes around what kind of style would

800
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: best be implemented for beating opponents like you know, yawn.

801
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: I think he would be fine. But let's say he

802
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: really did want to focus in on his ground game.

803
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: Yes and no, Like when he went for that one

804
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: sort of heel hook off the transition, I would have

805
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: rather him pass guard than sit for the heel hook.

806
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like sit for the heel

807
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: hook is very low percentage. You have to have a

808
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: quick bite on it and it's just not going to

809
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: be that easy. Rather than passing guard and showing those

810
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: forms of physical control, it would actually to me, and

811
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: this might be debatable, but to me, I actually think

812
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: if he would passed versus sitting for the heel hook,

813
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: that would have showed a greater level of ground game.

814
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: I would say, if he's going to focus on his

815
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: ground game, which I don't think is in any way bad,

816
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: it's quite good. I just think you got to make

817
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: it a little less, a little less gimmicky like and

818
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: it's not it sounds unfair, it's not full on gimmicky.

819
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: It's not what I mean. What I mean to say is,

820
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: rather than sitting for the heel hook, find a game

821
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: that like what Demi and Maya do is Demi and

822
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: Maya is looking for your back. He is hunting the

823
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: back every time, dude. He is looking to get to

824
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: the back, and it's very hard to stop him once

825
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: he gets you down, super hard. That's the kind of

826
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: thing I would be focusing on, is let me just

827
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: find ways to make one version of this ground game.

828
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: The totality is quite good, But let me get one

829
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: ace in the hole about chasing the back, and that

830
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: even if you don't get it, just that threat and

831
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: what it means to focus and whatnot can really change

832
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: up things. Plus if you get it, god knows what

833
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: you could do from there. But again I don't that

834
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: could meaningfully help him. Dude. His ground game is good.

835
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: He sits underneath, his hips are active. He wrestles with

836
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 1: his legs like he's good to me. It's the stand

837
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: up that is not bad, but it needs it's quite

838
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: It's quite formidable. He's he's the future of fighting, so

839
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: is so is Yon. But there's a certain physicality, an element.

840
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: He couldn't get Yan off of him. Yan was just

841
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: on him like rain in Seattle, and there was not

842
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: much of an umbrella to be found that day. So

843
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: that's what I think is missing.

844
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, well said, and what a time. As

845
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: we always mentioned, the the gratuitous nature of how many

846
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 2: great band weights there are, or I want to see

847
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: Sugar Sean eventually climb the ladder. There's some veterans lingering around.

848
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 2: I get fired up just thinking about Jan and Sinhudo

849
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: and Yan Dillashaw.

850
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 3: As we mentioned.

851
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: But you know that performance from Corey may have been

852
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: good enough on some nights to win the title. It's

853
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: just h God, Yan is Yan is great. He's freaking great.

854
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 1: He's on this kid.

855
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: I mean he's great. It's great.

856
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: And he's got a big mouth too, Like that's the

857
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 1: other part. I mean, this kid learns even a little

858
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: bit of English. He's going to tear through this country

859
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: as a as a popular and polarizing star. So that

860
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: should be a lot of fun. All right, let's we're

861
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: gonna talk about on extra credit Islam Makachev taking on

862
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: Dan Hooker, So I know a lot of folks want

863
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: to hear a lot about that. We're going to save

864
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: it for that because BC, we have got to talk

865
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: about the return of Hamzat Chimaiev or however, you Kamzat.

866
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: I don't know how to pronounce it, We'll just call

867
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: him Jamaiev. He returned to the octagon and absolutely obliterated

868
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: Li Jiang Lang in the first round. Is this the

869
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: most impressive first four fight run in UFC history? Which

870
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: for context, he has outstruck his opponents in total strikes

871
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty four to two one hundred and

872
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: some change to one significant strikes in four fights. Literally

873
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: never been done before.

874
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, has anyone had a better UFC

875
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 2: debut in early stretch than like a Anderson Silva? Maybe not,

876
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 2: but this is this feels historically significant for a guy

877
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: you know, three or four fights ago we hadn't heard

878
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: of then to come in, then to have that two

879
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: month stretch he had in twenty twenty, but then to

880
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: have legitimate questions from the layoff, the COVID battles, everything

881
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 2: into this fight and then look not to hit a

882
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: home run, to hit like I don't even know what

883
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: the sports equivalent is for the for the way in

884
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: which he exceeded. I mean, he was such a big

885
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: betting favorite that we're like, oh, god, man, let's put

886
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: some plus money on the leach. I mean, this fight

887
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: could be great. There's things we need to learn. I mean,

888
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: it wasn't freaking close, but it's it's even deeper than that.

889
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 2: When he picked up leech Gian Leon and went over

890
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 2: to date on the corner and we know, you know,

891
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 2: talking chit and held him up in the air before

892
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: slamming him down.

893
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: I mean, he's playing with his food. Nobody does that

894
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 3: to the leech.

895
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: Okay, this guy came out to make a statement and

896
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 2: he literally made the loudest, loudest possible statement you could.

897
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: Did not get touch with a strike, Duck Duck. The

898
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: first punch Legion Leon thrown and then instantly dominated and

899
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: wore him down to the point that he put him

900
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 2: to sleep. This was a fight that we thought would

901
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 2: be a war that would have to teach us certain things.

902
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 2: It only taught us, Luke, that it's not a you know,

903
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: it's not an if he's gonna fight for the title,

904
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: and it's when.

905
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 3: And I'm not even sure, well, I don't even know.

906
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: He's fought twice in the middleweight division in the UFC.

907
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure which, you know way class will

908
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 2: end up being best for him. But good freaking lord, Luke,

909
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: if somebody said to you, we're gonna stop our original

910
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 2: plans and Kamorrow Usman's not gonna fight Kolby Covington on Saturday.

911
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 2: He's gonna fight CHAMAIAV And said, you'd have to really

912
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: think about that betting line and where it's gonna be,

913
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: because I don't think any of us could have expected

914
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: him to look this good. He looks like a freaking

915
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: alien right now. He looks like you like, I have

916
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: no idea where to put the terms in the in

917
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: the in the ceiling. And yes, we need to see

918
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: certain things about him, but when have you seen someone

919
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 2: this brash and make it look this freaking easy before

920
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 2: the All sports need flashes of brilliance like this. Sometimes

921
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 2: they don't pan out. Sometimes, like a bo Jackson.

922
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: They leave too early.

923
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: This feels like something very special, Luke, Holy shit toal

924
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: about putting the division or a sport on notice, Well,

925
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 2: what do you want me to say right now? Luke?

926
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 3: What the fuck do you want me to say right now?

927
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: So, in many ways, Silva's first four fights are better

928
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: because they were higher profile to begin with. So, for example,

929
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: in the UFC debut of Anderson, Silva was against Chris

930
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: Leeban UFC Fight Night five I mean, think about that

931
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: in June of two thousand and six, and he kaoted

932
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: him inside of around everyone knows. Then he kaoed Rich

933
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: Franklin inside of around. Then he beat Travis Luder by

934
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: tko and then he KOed Nate Marquart. So he wins

935
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: all of those via stoppage. But there's a couple of

936
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: things to consider. One Travis Luter had him mounted right,

937
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: so he won that. One Travis Luter missed wait for

938
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: that fight, so he couldn't have won the title even

939
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: if he had won. But he had Silva mounted, and

940
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: he didn't get to do much with it, but he

941
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: did so in the sense of, you know, it's not

942
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: apples to apples, but in the sense of just being

943
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: untouchable through your first four fights. Maybe Silva's run is

944
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: more impressive given what he was up against in the

945
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: stage of which he was competing, which is, you know,

946
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: near title contender immediately. Tomia is not that. But otherwise,

947
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 1: everything about what Shamaiva is doing is without President McGregor's

948
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: first fore fights not like that, John Jones' first fore

949
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: fights not like that, GSPS not like that, Like Go

950
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: de Cormier not like that, And it doesn't matter who

951
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: you pick, they're not like this. Now, there are still

952
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: some questions that remain bc like what happens if he

953
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: gets tired, what happens when? And I think you would

954
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: agree the wrestling as he moves up the division is

955
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: going to get exponentially better when he hits the Gilbert

956
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: Burnses and the Covingtons, and eventually maybe Ousman will see

957
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: how things go. No one knows exactly what the future

958
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 1: holds in terms of those You know, you're not dealing

959
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: with the leech level of wrestling there, or even submission

960
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: threats in the case of like Gilbert Burns, a literal

961
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: black belt world champion in every sense of the word.

962
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: So I do think there are still some questions. But

963
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: this is the difference between pre fight and postfight. Before

964
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, is he legit? We still need some information.

965
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: We know he's good, we need someone, you know, to

966
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: really to really get us there. Okay, we got there.

967
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: So if you're ready to have belief in his upside,

968
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: I think you're allowed to. Would some manage expectations and

969
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: now it's not about you know, let's see what happens

970
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: against this guy or that guy. Now it's about dude,

971
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: this exciting moment where you're just you don't even know

972
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: where his ceiling could be. Could he do this to

973
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: top contenders? Could he do this on the way and

974
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: capture the title and a feed of a brilliance that

975
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: we've never seen before. I think you should be allowed

976
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: to imagine and get excited about that, because what he

977
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 1: has done is so utterly without precedent. It would be

978
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,959
Speaker 1: foolish not to consider that at this point.

979
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's not like we haven't seen I mean

980
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: even when Johnny Walker arrived on the scene, it was like,

981
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: holy shit, okay that too.

982
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 3: I mean there are guys who come on.

983
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 2: The scene and do that, but once they raise their

984
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 2: level of competition, you find the holes. And then there's

985
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: guys like econor McGregor who make these kind of runs

986
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,959
Speaker 2: out of nowhere, and you're almost doubting him and betting

987
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: against him the whole time, maybe because you see the

988
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 2: holes in his game and he doesn't look like the part,

989
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: but he keeps escalating his performances. This is not that

990
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 2: this is a guy who is doing it a such

991
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: a dominant level with such cock. Sure, that's an actual word, Luke,

992
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: you know, did they teach you cocksure at.

993
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 3: William and Mary.

994
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: They taught me that in middle school.

995
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: It's the embodiment of the bde Luke. It's I mean,

996
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: he is cock sure at a level that that that

997
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 2: is just it's not frightening, but it's sort of like,

998
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: oh oh shit. The spirit, you know, the the the

999
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: forces is extra prevalent in this one. I mean, there's

1000
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: no question he wants the smoke. So my question to

1001
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: you is when they go back in that war room

1002
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 2: and it's Dana, it's Mick, it's Sean, I don't know.

1003
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: Sometimes I believe they still get uh, you know, what's

1004
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: his name, Lorenzo on the speaker once in a while.

1005
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: That's what That's just what I believe. Okay, do they

1006
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: break all glass in case of emergency? Do they go

1007
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: you know what we haven't seen you know, we haven't

1008
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: seen a spirit like this in in a long time.

1009
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 2: And you know, everything Chamaiah does. Although the comment about

1010
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: I've got a gun and I come here to kill

1011
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 2: you all was was a little frightening in the after

1012
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: wrath in the Postwright interview, but he embodies like all

1013
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 2: the zoof of values, right, fight anybody at any time

1014
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 2: on short notice and going there and dominate and talk

1015
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: shit while doing it.

1016
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 3: Do they literally get him ready for a title shot?

1017
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: Now, Luke? I know Dana was asked about Nate Diaz's

1018
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: last fight, and Dana kind of gave a chuckle that

1019
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: made you think, are they really going to try to

1020
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: make Tremaiah star off of an exiting Nate? No?

1021
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: Real quick, real quick? If you managed Nate, if you're

1022
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: a Nate's manager and I know him, if you're him,

1023
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: and they call and say, okay, Tchamaia January card, you

1024
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: want it?

1025
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: What do you say, are you gonna pay me ten

1026
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: million or not? Because if not, hell no, Hell the

1027
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 2: frick no. Sorry, guys, unless you're unless you are paying

1028
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: me a side championship Connor McGregor level money to show up,

1029
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: not gonna do it. So, Luke, do they literally get

1030
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: him ready for the winner of Covington Usman two? And

1031
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: I know you're gonna get a lot of people watch

1032
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 2: this going, what are you freaking crazy? Luke? They love

1033
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: fast tracking the special ones. This guy's as special as

1034
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: anyone we have seen. We just compared his opening statements

1035
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: to that of Anderson Silva.

1036
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 3: That tells you this guy is freaking next level special.

1037
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: What do you do with the next uh So I

1038
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: couldn't Well, at first I couldn't believe this, but then

1039
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: I could believe it just thinking about it, just for

1040
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: a second. Do you know who called shamaiav out? Maybe

1041
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: you don't. I saw this. Neil Magni wants to smoke

1042
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 1: Neil Magnis like, I'm ready for him now. Li jiang

1043
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: Lang was ranked eleventh before this fight. No hold on,

1044
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: let me make the case here. You've got Magni at eight.

1045
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: Now.

1046
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: Your point might be, well, you could fast track him

1047
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: to a title shot. You could. In fairness, there are

1048
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: still a couple of more than a couple, there are

1049
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: still some big unknowns about him. It is obvious this

1050
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: guy is championship caliber, and I think that part we

1051
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: can affirmatively conclude at this point. You don't do what

1052
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: he did to the Leech unless you are extraordinarily good

1053
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: fair enough, But that doesn't mean we understand the full

1054
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: totality of his game when he gets pushed, And the

1055
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: rule about the UFC is someone is eventually going to

1056
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: put it on you, and how you respond is really

1057
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: what that tells us. We just haven't reached that point.

1058
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: Yet we may never with the current slate of Walter Waits,

1059
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: we'll see. But dude, Neil Magni represents a clear step up.

1060
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: He beat I think the Leech as well, and I

1061
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: don't think it was especially close when he did. He

1062
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: wants the smoke. He's sitting at eight. I like that fight.

1063
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: You don't like that fight.

1064
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Neil Magni isn't the right test of

1065
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: what we don't know about him. I'm saying that doesn't

1066
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: do anything from the sex factor and the idea of

1067
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: marketing momentum, and the idea that you know, the Leech

1068
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: ain't no one's bitch and Shamaiah didn't take a strike

1069
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: from him and put him to sleep. So yeah, you

1070
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: can still accomplish what you're trying to do, which is

1071
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 2: build him to be the next big thing while finding

1072
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 2: out what he's actually made of. With a Magni fight

1073
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: or Luke, you can look back to maybe the last

1074
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 2: time somebody arrived on the scene with this type of

1075
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 2: next level catnip for the casuals Flare one Francis and Gano,

1076
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: and didn't they fast track him to the ship out

1077
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: of the title Luke two months after he sent over

1078
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 2: him to Hell and like the most brutal one punch

1079
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: knockout an elite well UFC history, he went in there

1080
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: and fought for the damn title. I'm just saying that

1081
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: this type of buzz around someone is extra special.

1082
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 3: You can go the slower route and and and build

1083
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 3: his brand while.

1084
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: Finding out what he's made of, or you can basically say,

1085
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: let's find out if he's the.

1086
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 3: New Hope, the chosen one.

1087
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: So hold on. You know we're not going to full

1088
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: Jedi Academy here, Okay.

1089
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: Okay, so hold on. So he's so he's he's like

1090
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: the good version of Anakin or some shit. Hear me

1091
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: out on this, I mean, is.

1092
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 2: A bitch luke. We have to put that out there

1093
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 2: in the world.

1094
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: Gilbert Gilbert Burns is looking for an opponent. But I

1095
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: think you could do that fight. You could pull that.

1096
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: You could pull the trigger on the Gilbert fight unless

1097
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: he has something else locked up, but as far as

1098
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: I know, he's open, right or whatever. You could go

1099
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: that route him sitting at two and if Jemaiah wins

1100
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: that one, forget about it. The other route you could

1101
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: go is what about Leon Edwards. Let me ask you

1102
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: forget about whether or not you make that fight. Let's

1103
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: say that they did. They made that fight for January.

1104
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: Who wins, Jemiah or Edwards? Remember they were supposed to

1105
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 1: have met before.

1106
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: Yes, I would rather have the Leon Edwards fight than

1107
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 2: the Magni fight. But isn't Leon Edwards Ray Moswital happening, Luke?

1108
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, we'll just say for a second that

1109
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 1: it wasn't for just for a moment they pulled Jorge

1110
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: from it. If they made omah, tell me how it goes.

1111
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: Yes, I'd be okay with that because of where Edwards

1112
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: is ranked. But tell me how it goes. I think

1113
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 2: that's why I'm making the case to fast track this guy.

1114
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: I have no idea how it goes.

1115
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 2: And when you are on a spot where you have

1116
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 2: somebody who's just I mean, they're not just buzzing and

1117
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 2: on fire. There's things, liquids leaking out of them. That's

1118
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 2: Tamayah's stock right now. Imagine an earn that's just buzzing,

1119
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: and I mean, Luke, you kind of gotta throw it

1120
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: at the wall and find out the fact that we

1121
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: don't know is the cell that's the theater the special. Look,

1122
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 2: why do we end up seeing once in a blue

1123
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 2: moon a fourteen year old tennis phenom who goes pro

1124
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 2: Because you're not gonna tell that tennis PHENI you're not

1125
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 2: gonna tell thirteen year old Jennifer Caprioti. Uh well, I'm

1126
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: dating myself with this reference.

1127
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: You know.

1128
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 2: Sorry, go finish high school and college first, then we'll

1129
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 2: see your pro.

1130
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 3: No, you're gonna put him in there, Luke.

1131
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: Okay, lebron at like eighteen taking over the NBA. Sometimes

1132
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 2: you just let him go. Luke, Okay, Doogie Howser, you

1133
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 2: just let him go. Just got I'm not you know,

1134
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 2: you know there's people that need saving here. I'm not

1135
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 2: gonna wait, Doogie until you get allan pit hair. We

1136
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 2: need you to perform heart surgery right now. Luke, it

1137
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: may be he may be that type of special special

1138
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 2: thing you just tell Lucas high.

1139
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: I think my high on this guy. You're high on

1140
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: this guy, which is not wrong I do at this point,

1141
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 1: it's not wrong to be high on him. Like the jury,

1142
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's fully in. Again, we haven't seen

1143
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: him against elite, elite competition, but against everyone else, he's

1144
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: just making him look bad. So he's obviously going to

1145
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: do special things in the sport as long as he

1146
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: can keep competing and stay healthy. But like, let me

1147
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 1: just say this, I feel like, when you the best,

1148
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: you want this guy. He's got a ton of hype,

1149
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: but he had to remember it. There was not as

1150
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: much buzz for this fight as we thought that there

1151
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: would have been. I think coming out of it is

1152
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: going to be a lot. You need one more fight.

1153
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: You need one more fight that this guy can be

1154
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: in against a credible challenger on a big card. Let's

1155
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: say a Conno McGregor card or something like that, where

1156
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: you could be like, okay, man, Like, even if you

1157
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: favor Chamaiah to win, what this will do for his

1158
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: star power is so important we can't fast track past that.

1159
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: I think that sort of thing that I'm looking at now,

1160
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: it's not clear who that guy might be. But let

1161
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: me throw out another NAMBC and he's coming off of

1162
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: a loss. But in terms of you know what the

1163
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: fight would mean on a big card, right, let's say

1164
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,479
Speaker 1: it's a Conno McGregor card. What about Hamzat Chimayah versus

1165
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: Michael Kisa.

1166
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if they make the decision to not do

1167
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: the crazy, ridiculous reactionary thing that was done to Engan

1168
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: it was done to Anderson Silva after one fight against

1169
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: Leep and just give him the damn titles. I let's

1170
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: see now, Yes, I would be okay with a Jamaiah

1171
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 2: I mean a Kisa fight the same way I would

1172
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 2: with the Leon Edwards heavily placed in terms of its

1173
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: push that like, look, this may be the last test

1174
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: before the top, because if this guy's that good, then

1175
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: do it to this level. Okay, if you're gonna go

1176
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 2: that way, Yes, I like those better than Magni. This

1177
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: isn't a Neil Magni hate show. But I do need

1178
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: some type of edge to this opponent, Luke. I do

1179
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 2: need to feel like we are reaching above, you know,

1180
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 2: to find out how great somebody can be. I kind

1181
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 2: of need a little more extra on that. I mean,

1182
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 2: if if Jorge wasn't let's say Jorge wasn't all right,

1183
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: well you have to change the narrative. JORGEY can't do

1184
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 2: this coming off a one punch ko loss. Let me

1185
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: take him out of there. You can't do that. But

1186
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 2: you need somebody that that he's not only proving himself

1187
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 2: in that fight, he's also taking their star value and

1188
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: adding it to his and just moving forward.

1189
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: Luke, fair enough For all the other UFC two sixty

1190
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: seven fights, check out MK extra credit. We're going to

1191
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: be going into them. Should be a lot of fun

1192
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: being heard.

1193
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: It's a great show, Luke. You know you won't catch

1194
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: me dad watching it, but heard it's.

1195
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: Great, much like me in boxing, hardcore. Great show. Never

1196
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: watched it.

1197
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go all right, yeah, okay.

1198
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: I mean fairness. Extra credit is you know, we got

1199
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: got some work to do. Okay, let's talk about number four.

1200
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: Be see you're already there. I will meet you there

1201
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 1: Wednesday morning. We are heading into now Canelo versus Plant

1202
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: fight week. By the way, you let the cat out

1203
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: of the back and just told everyone we've done a

1204
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: Canelo Alvarez resume review that'll be out later today.

1205
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: So we already told them on this show three separate episodes. Look,

1206
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: come on, get right.

1207
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: With We didn't tell them Canelo. We just told him

1208
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: it was coming that We.

1209
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 3: All week straight up told him Canelo. We did a

1210
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 3: whole bit on it. Come on, Luke, don't don't feel like.

1211
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever explicitly told them whatever,

1212
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter.

1213
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: You said, go ahead, and BC tell the people like

1214
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 2: five episodes ago, and I told them, and then everybody's

1215
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 2: tweeting at us. You know, we said, hey, maybe we'll

1216
00:54:58,880 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: tell Canelo on that.

1217
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: I don't sleep much. Just cut me a brake. Okay,

1218
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: But neither here nor there. It's Canelo versus Plant fight

1219
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: week by the way, as you indicate it. If you're

1220
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: an MMA fan watching this and you want to know

1221
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: a little bit more about these guys and the fight itself.

1222
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: Cannot recommend it enough on YouTube right now, you can

1223
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: go to the Showtime Sports YouTube channel all access episodes

1224
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: one and two. They're only about twenty five minutes a piece.

1225
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: They are fucking awesome. They are super well made. It's

1226
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: embedded on steroids. There's fewer of them, but they're really

1227
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: well done. Can't recommend it enough. It's similar to what

1228
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: UFC used to do called I think what was it

1229
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: called Primetime. It's like twenty four to seven in a way,

1230
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: almost a little bit different, okay, BC, of all the

1231
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: different angles to pay attention to, what is the one

1232
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: angle right now on this fight and about the hoopla

1233
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: around it that you're most paying attention to, and why.

1234
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 3: It's tied into the Bad Blood.

1235
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,479
Speaker 2: It's tied into the September twenty second press conference, which

1236
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: you know, wherever you land on that, whether you thought

1237
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 2: Plant was acting like a clown or you felt like

1238
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 2: something happened there, you have to admit that helped hype

1239
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 2: the fight. But it's based on this idea, and I

1240
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: think the all Excess episodes, as you mentioned, do a

1241
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 2: great job of, you know, really sharing the backstory of

1242
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 2: both fighters, how.

1243
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 3: They got there, what's motivating them.

1244
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 2: The biggest storyline for me is is Plant's mental toughness

1245
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 2: really setting him up to overperform the expectations that the

1246
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: betting oddsmen think, that US insiders naturally think, because Canelo

1247
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 2: is really just that good, that look, he's going to

1248
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: be a monster favorite against everybody.

1249
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 3: Is Caleb Plant a live dog?

1250
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 2: Then most of us even realize, even me, who's been

1251
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 2: giving him a lot of credit, because he is that

1252
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 2: mentally tough sometimes Luke, and it kind of plays into

1253
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: the chamaiav argument of if you really look that good,

1254
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: let's find out today when you look at Kayleb Plant's resume,

1255
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 2: it's not Canelo level. It's not even you know, the

1256
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: level that you would want it to be of somebody

1257
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,959
Speaker 2: who's at this level. He won a hard earned title

1258
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: win over who's caught to and that's his best win.

1259
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 2: He's added sort of three showcase title defensive sense done.

1260
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 2: He doesn't have that deep There's no question about it.

1261
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 2: This is who he is. But that also means we

1262
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 2: don't know everything about him. Is he going to make

1263
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: a leap in this fight, win or lose. That's going

1264
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 2: to make it much more competitive that we thought? And

1265
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: then is he going to use this bad blood fuel

1266
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 2: to do what it accomplishes to get Canelo Avarez just

1267
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 2: a bit off of his initial game plan and to

1268
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: try to find an opening to make this fight close.

1269
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: Is plants speed, footwork and combination ability going to be

1270
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: even more than Canelo thinks it is. That's what I'm

1271
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 2: most interested in. And none of this may matter in

1272
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 2: the end, Luke Caleb Plant could win every press conference,

1273
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 2: every media event this week, could say the right thing

1274
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 2: in the microphone every time, and half the people may

1275
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,479
Speaker 2: laugh at him, and it may not matter anyway, because

1276
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 2: Canelo's that great and he could get knocked out in

1277
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 2: the third, fourth round just because that's what we're setting

1278
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: up here. But there's something about Caleb Plant that I

1279
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 2: can't just go, Nope, they're right minus you know, plus

1280
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: eight hundred.

1281
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 3: Yep, that's about right. There's something extra on him.

1282
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 2: Will that matter?

1283
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 3: Will that come full bloom in the fight?

1284
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: That's what's got me looking at this and not looking

1285
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 2: at the betting odds and just looking at two men

1286
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 2: who this is a big moment to both of them. Yeah,

1287
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: it's because of the titles at stake and the platform

1288
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 2: and the money. But there's too hungry ask guys going

1289
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 2: at it this Saturday, and that's making me fire the

1290
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: hell up. Luke, how.

1291
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: Let me let me give you mind here just a second.

1292
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: How far do you think this fight goes? How many

1293
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: rounds the whole thing?

1294
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 2: It's hard to say because if Plan overachieves, right, and

1295
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 2: what I mean by that, if Plant does better, then

1296
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: we if Plants better than we all think he is,

1297
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 2: and that he needed, you know, to step up to

1298
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 2: somebody's of Canelo's class to bring that out of him

1299
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 2: in ways that maybe he couldn't against other opponents. I

1300
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 2: know it's a little bit of a reach, but sometimes

1301
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: we see guys you know, grow in front of your

1302
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 2: eyes on this level. Does that mean we automatically go

1303
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: twelve because there's gonna be this great chess match, or does.

1304
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 3: That mean he speeds up his own demise.

1305
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure, Luke, because there's gonna be such

1306
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 2: a tight rope to walk for Plant to be able

1307
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 2: to try to pull this off.

1308
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 3: What has pulled this off mean?

1309
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 2: To me? It means have a shot at edging Canelo

1310
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: after twelve rounds on the scorecards, right, are the odds

1311
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 2: against him in that, of course, But to have that shot,

1312
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 2: he's got to be in the line of fire and

1313
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: take chances. Is that only gonna speed up his exit? Luke,

1314
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 2: I don't know that, And to me, that's the intriguing part,

1315
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 2: because for Caleb Plant to be successful and be competitive,

1316
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,919
Speaker 2: he's got to welcome a lot of danger, Luke talking

1317
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 2: about swim and not get wet. He's got to go

1318
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 2: right into that fire. So you know, he could come

1319
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 2: out flat or he could come out great, and again

1320
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: it still may end up with one punch knockout by

1321
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: Canelo on the perfect countershot. So I don't really know

1322
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 2: how to answer that.

1323
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you where my head is at on this,

1324
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: And it sounds like I'm being probably I am probably,

1325
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: I am being too premature, but it's just something that's

1326
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: been on my mind, like inception, as if somebody had

1327
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: planted it deep in the recesses there and I can't

1328
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: shake it. I am perfectly willing to believe Brian that

1329
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: Canelo could still win, but Kleb Plant could overperform. I

1330
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: think Caleb Plant winning outright would definitely surprise me, not

1331
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,919
Speaker 1: to say impossible, but just my personal expectations that would

1332
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: surprise me, if you want, but that he would overperform

1333
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: or do quite well. I think we have to take

1334
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: that seriously. You watch these all access things and you

1335
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: get a real you get a real appreciation for Kayleb

1336
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: Plant never had it easy, never was the guy who

1337
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: was the promoter's favorite, just kind of took the game

1338
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: by the scruff of the neck. And whatever he has

1339
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,479
Speaker 1: he claimed rightfully, and it's hard to not appreciate that story. Still,

1340
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: I will tell you where my head is at. My

1341
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: head is at I want to see what this means

1342
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: and the answer could be nothing. But to what extent

1343
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: does this fight set up or tell us about possibilities

1344
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: for a showdown at one seventy five with Batervia because

1345
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: he Canelo and his trainer Eddie Renoso have been super clear,

1346
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: not at all ambiguous, that they have that fight slotted

1347
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: at something that they are interested in. Now, we don't

1348
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: have a timeframe. Who the hell knows when that would be,

1349
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. Would it ever happen? I don't know,

1350
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: but I got to tell you that to me is

1351
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: so crazy, so out of the realm of things you

1352
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: would even think would be possible. I wonder if he

1353
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: goes in there and Caleb Plant doesn't overperform Bryan, but

1354
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: he actually gets dusted and Canelo looks amazing, is the

1355
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: showdown at one seventy five with that Russian hammer inevitable?

1356
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: It just might be.

1357
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 2: It just might be because God Canelo has been so

1358
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 2: perfect of late in his stewardship of the responsibility that

1359
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: comes with being the rare pow for pound king and

1360
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 2: biggest pay per view draw at the same time, right

1361
01:01:56,360 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 2: where there's responsibility there. Some have used that leverage creates

1362
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 2: to their own good financially and more power to them,

1363
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: but his ability to just keep walking into danger despite

1364
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 2: those advantages and being as active as he is and

1365
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 2: going from network to network as a free agent. Good God,

1366
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 2: is it means that we can't we can't say he

1367
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: won't do that? Now? Could he get even bigger pay

1368
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 2: per view opportunities at one sixty eight against the Jamal

1369
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 2: Charlow or against the David Benavetez will be back on

1370
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 2: showtime coming up against the replacement opponent.

1371
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 3: Sure, but do you know how freaking.

1372
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 2: Badass it is that we're even talking about the idea

1373
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 2: that he can move back up into a weight class

1374
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 2: in which he kind of cherry picked a belt. Although

1375
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: I give him so much credit for what he did

1376
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 2: to Kovalev, but to say, no, I don't want just that.

1377
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 2: I want the unified, unbeaten champion whose quasi pound for

1378
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 2: pound ranked has really no level of markability outside of Montreal,

1379
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 2: where he's based from Russia, of course, uh but and

1380
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: I want to go there and unify belts there and

1381
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 2: prove everybody. I mean, that's like the balls on that

1382
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 2: Luke is nuts. That's insane.

1383
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 3: I mean, seriously, but Terbiev is a is a machine.

1384
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 3: He's he's like fifteen and oh with fifteen KOs.

1385
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 2: Only he can box too, right, Yeah, And I.

1386
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: Mean and he fills out one seventy five about as

1387
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: muscular as you're ever going to see.

1388
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 2: So if that's true, I almost want to add into

1389
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 2: this narrative. I don't know if people care about this,

1390
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 2: but there's a point in someone's star rise where you

1391
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 2: start to go like, not only do we have something

1392
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 2: really special here historically, but I think we need to

1393
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: start savoring it now and enjoying it now rather than

1394
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 2: enjoying it later. I mean, look, Canelo might really I mean,

1395
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 2: we already know this is his era. We already know he's,

1396
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 2: you know, an all time great who's close to making

1397
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 2: an argument even for best Mexican fighter of all time,

1398
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 2: which means a lot when you're talking about Chavez Senior

1399
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 2: as the guy who's atop that throne. Like this might

1400
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 2: be even more special of a rain and a run

1401
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 2: for one fighter than we are even putting to words here, seriously,

1402
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 2: And that's when you just look at every time out,

1403
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 2: whether it's a yield um mandatory or it is for

1404
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 2: all four belts, like let's appreciate this and stop and

1405
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 2: and and you know, and what we're getting here, This

1406
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 2: guy's fucking all time great right here, and uh, it's

1407
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 2: wild that that we're even at this point that we're

1408
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 2: talking about bigger fights than this, and to your points, Luke,

1409
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 2: and to my points mixed together, Plant may over exceed

1410
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 2: expectations and still get dusted because this guy's that good.

1411
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm just trying to think of a world, like,

1412
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: there's definitely a world where Kayleb Plant gives him a

1413
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: ton of problems again winning as possible, but I think unlikely,

1414
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: but plenty where it's like, Okay, maybe Canelo has kind

1415
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: of reached his limit with one sixty eight and we

1416
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: should maybe call it a day there and he'll fight

1417
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: at Charlow or you know who knows from that point,

1418
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: but you know, you pump the brakes on ever going

1419
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 1: back to one seventy five. But I'm like, well, wait

1420
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: a second, fellas, While I take that possibility super seriously,

1421
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm not looking past Kayleb Plant at all. I'm just imagining.

1422
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: I'm imagining, theoretically, what if the opposite happens and Canelo

1423
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: goes in there and has his way. Dude, every question

1424
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: at the post fight press conference is going to be

1425
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: so wait, one seventy five a terib it's just inevitable,

1426
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 1: you know what's going to happen. And that's kind of

1427
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking about as we head into a fight

1428
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: week here, starting starting today, I'm.

1429
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 2: Final points and transition off of And we've said this

1430
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 2: before and I don't know if it'll ever happen, but

1431
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 2: if andre Ward decided to get up in the bullpen, Luke,

1432
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 2: after you know, for off the andre Ward idea at

1433
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 2: thirty seven, the unbeaten former pound for pound king retired

1434
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 2: on his own terms, if he got up in the

1435
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 2: bullpen and we built to that look again, like, I

1436
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 2: don't even know if that fight sells more, you know,

1437
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 2: demonstrably more than this because Ward's never been a big drawing,

1438
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 2: didn't always get the full salute he deserved. But that

1439
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 2: fight would intrigue me as a fan and historian more

1440
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 2: than any other Canelo can make. So that's interesting if

1441
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 2: we ever got there. But let's focus on the today.

1442
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 2: It's a why Kayla plant and these media events should

1443
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:03,919
Speaker 2: be fun this week, Luke.

1444
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 1: Should it should be super fun. They're super fun all right, last,

1445
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 1: but not least for our top five here. I mean,

1446
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: we're just leaving so much on the cutting room floor

1447
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: because of the time constraints. But let's get to it now. Dude.

1448
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: We're not even talking about the main event on the

1449
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: showtime card, which by the way, was phenomenal between James

1450
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: and Betaiev. But let's talk about the comine because this

1451
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: dude we have been singing. The first time I saw him,

1452
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: I was like, and Brian, you can back me up.

1453
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: I don't claim to have especially good boxing knowledge. I'm

1454
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: okay at best.

1455
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 2: I do.

1456
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 1: I do what I can. I'm trying to catch up

1457
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: for all the years that I missed. But I laid

1458
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: eyes on this guy the first time and I was like, whoa,

1459
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 1: he is good? Well how about this Jeron Ennis absolutely

1460
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: fucking obliterated Thomas Doulor mat inside of a round switching stances.

1461
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't think he even made it to the two

1462
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: minute mark. If I'm not mistaken, he couldn't last one

1463
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty seconds with NSBC at this point, is

1464
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: it fair to say all the hype around Nis like

1465
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: CHAMAIAV is being proven to be not just hype but

1466
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: facts about how good he is.

1467
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 2: Facts he's he's you know, I'm always gonna butcher that

1468
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 2: Larry Merchant line. After Pakia knocked out Codo. But we

1469
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 2: thought he was good. He's better than we thought he was.

1470
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 2: I mean I saw boxing Twitter. Undefeated, always clever, always cynical,

1471
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 2: always angry. Somebody on boxing Twitter was like, Boots is

1472
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 2: so good, He's gonna make spencon Crawford fight each other

1473
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 2: right to avoid him. I mean, that's the that sums

1474
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 2: it up. Luke. You know it's a joke, but that

1475
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 2: sums it up. And I'm like, this is one of

1476
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 2: those performances where it's like, man f the cynical if

1477
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 2: there's some cynical haters.

1478
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 3: I saw a couple of tweets, Oh do loom has

1479
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:42,439
Speaker 3: always been washed?

1480
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 2: Well, no, no, he hasn't. Let's look at lor Ma's

1481
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 2: recent run. Did he ever live up to his own

1482
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 2: potential hype? No, but it'd been six years since he'd

1483
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 2: been knocked out, and that was against Terrence Crawford.

1484
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 3: By the way, at one forty for the title.

1485
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 2: He'd gone the full twelve round distance in close fights

1486
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 2: against you know or you know, gritty performances against the

1487
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 2: yor Dennis Ugats, against a that unbeaten Lithuanian staniosis. Recently,

1488
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 2: you know, he's he's durable, and what we were hoping

1489
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 2: to learn about this fight is, you know how good

1490
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 2: his boots really?

1491
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 3: But can we get.

1492
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 2: Somebody to push Boots past six rounds? Maybe I thought

1493
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 2: Delormee was gonna be that guy. This was a second

1494
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 2: fight with Ismaels Salast, the Cuban trainer who does a

1495
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 2: really good job at sort of reinventing guys. Not Trevor

1496
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 2: Whitman level, but a very smart coach. And I like

1497
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 2: the aggression that he put into Delome's game. Only we

1498
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 2: never got a chance to even see this. We never

1499
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 2: got a chance to even I mean, what I had

1500
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 2: said coming into this fight was, okay, Delome hadn't been

1501
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 2: stopped in six years, he goes rounds, he's tough, he's

1502
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 2: better late. He dropped Vargas in the final round to

1503
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 2: preserve that draw. I mean, he's he can do some things.

1504
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 2: Imagine if Boots stopped him, Let'd be a statement. How

1505
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 2: about imagine if Boots came in there in the first

1506
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 2: minute and just mop the floor with him.

1507
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 3: And I know that first punt, some.

1508
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 2: People saying it was back of the head. I talk

1509
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 2: to people on DeLorme May's team afterwards. It said it

1510
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 2: even left like a bump on his head. It was

1511
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 2: so quick. I don't even think the referee could have

1512
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 2: seen if it was in the side or back of

1513
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 2: his head or not. That's the point. How do you

1514
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: prepare for this guy? He switches dances, he's got power

1515
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 2: in both hands, he has denied dynamic speed, and he's

1516
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 2: got when he wants to use it, that sort of

1517
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 2: Roy Jones rare fast twitch fiber. It's maybe it's not

1518
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 2: Roy Jones level, because who the hell ever was Roy

1519
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 2: Jones level, but that sort of thing where he can

1520
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 2: go from the orthodox to the I didn't think that

1521
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 2: was possible like that.

1522
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 3: How the hell do you prepare for that?

1523
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 2: You don't Luke's there's certain wins and maybe Tamaia have

1524
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 2: just had his on Saturday. That change a narrative in

1525
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: a guy's arc where it's not that Boots wasn't brilliant

1526
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 2: before this. I mean, he obliterated Cirgue Lipin. It's in

1527
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 2: his last fight where you're just like, holy shit. But

1528
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 2: it usually takes that viral moment like this to have

1529
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 2: them jump through in the everyone else to take notice.

1530
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 2: You may have been a day one ish on Boots sentence,

1531
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 2: but still a lot of people a little slow coming around.

1532
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 2: This seems like that turning point moment where it's like

1533
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 2: he'll never be the co mate again after this, and

1534
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 2: he probably won't ever fight for anything but a title

1535
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 2: bout after this, because at twenty four years old, he

1536
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 2: has a next level poise and humility where you know,

1537
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 2: he obliterated Lipinets and he said this week in the

1538
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 2: fighter meetings that you know, I give myself a C

1539
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 2: or a D. I really hung out in front of

1540
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 2: him too long in the last two rounds. It took

1541
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 2: damage that I didn't need to. I mean, this guy

1542
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 2: is as critical about his own game as everyone else. Look,

1543
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 2: if you were twenty four and you had his skill set,

1544
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 2: you'd probably be a cocky asshole on the verge of

1545
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 2: you know, throwing it away with the rest and stuff.

1546
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 2: Yet this guy grew up in a gym and he

1547
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,719
Speaker 2: just has that it factor of being willing and able

1548
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 2: to shoulder the responsibility that comes with this. It's not

1549
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 2: a joke to say that, like he's a live dog

1550
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 2: against every single walterweight out there. I mean, this is

1551
01:10:58,439 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 2: something special here.

1552
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 1: It's just rare to see from my perspective, for whatever

1553
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 1: that is worth. But it is rare for me to

1554
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:08,719
Speaker 1: have seen a boxer with this many tools and yet

1555
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 1: easy command of switching back between them, not just stances,

1556
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 1: but all the different kinds of punches and reads and

1557
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 1: attacks and strategies he can employ. He can easily and

1558
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 1: quickly move just between them whenever he wants. So he's

1559
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: got this giant repertoire that he has access to at

1560
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 1: all times. You're fighting a fucking computer, in the words

1561
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 1: of fernand Lopez, when you're fighting a guy like Jaron Ennis. Dude,

1562
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: if you're an MMA fan, and by the way, I

1563
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: want to ask you about this BC because in the

1564
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: main and the co main event, we saw guys have

1565
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: less so with Bhutayev, but still some lots of stance switching.

1566
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 1: But Jaron Ennis, for I've said this to MMA fans,

1567
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 1: if you're looking for a guy, I'm not saying he

1568
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: boxes like an MME fighter would, because he's just infinitely better.

1569
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: But he has some of it. It almost looks like

1570
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 1: an MME fighter with the stance switching and all the

1571
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 1: different looks and how he does it. Butayev did a

1572
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: little bit of that. Is that newer to boxing or

1573
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 1: is that my imagination build race of it.

1574
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 2: It's not that it's never been seen before, but the

1575
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 2: embracing of of feints in general. And I mean, look

1576
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 2: at what Tyson Fury's done with his active, active guard

1577
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,839
Speaker 2: and how well, especially in that first fight under Ben Davidson,

1578
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 2: they did to disarm Wilder. It was a strategic, you know,

1579
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 2: aim of getting there and taking away his jab by

1580
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 2: being busy. Again, not not a skill that's just been

1581
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 2: made up out of thin air. But to see this

1582
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 2: many people, especially those with the dynamic athleticism and you know,

1583
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 2: make it a staple of their game. That's the future.

1584
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 2: I mean, that's some Lomachenko stuff right there too. I

1585
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 2: mean that that's the future of where we're going. And uh,

1586
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 2: let's give Boutaya of a lot of credit, the unbeaten

1587
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 2: Russian from Dagistan who came out in the Papaha, the

1588
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 2: the habib headgear and luke he put it on Jamal

1589
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 2: James in the main event there for that secondary WBA title.

1590
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,600
Speaker 2: Jamal James is tough out. I never thought he was

1591
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 2: truly next level elite, but Boutaya put out a performance

1592
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 2: that you could not have guessed coming in Luke, because

1593
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 2: he's a brawler who who who tests the edge of

1594
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 2: what's legal by his style. Yet he's got four hundred

1595
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 2: amateur fights and he's got this footwork. He's a new

1596
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,560
Speaker 2: interesting player in this welterweight division. Look, I mean, I

1597
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 2: don't want to matchmaking the moment here and tell you

1598
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 2: I love you, but I kind of want to see

1599
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 2: Boots end this next against Buttajev. I'm kind of hoping

1600
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 2: that Why because it's for a secondary belt. It would

1601
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 2: put Boots in a position to fight Ugas potentially to

1602
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 2: unify that WBA belt and get rid of these secondary ones.

1603
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:29,560
Speaker 2: And then you know, if you get a belt on

1604
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 2: Boots Luke, these guys are not gonna be able to

1605
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 2: avoid him. The only thing, you know, Boots is not

1606
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 2: a PBC guy like the others. I hope that doesn't

1607
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 2: hold him up politricks wise, but that would be an

1608
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 2: interesting style contrast.

1609
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 3: How impressed were you, by the way with because that

1610
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 3: was some some wrinkles.

1611
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:45,879
Speaker 2: He was constantly switching Stanzas.

1612
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 1: I didn't love the stoppage. I thought it was a

1613
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: little bit early for me.

1614
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 3: And I was ringside.

1615
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 2: James was done, dude.

1616
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 1: He was done. All the commentators complained about it too.

1617
01:13:58,439 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it was how it looked on TV,

1618
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 1: ver this is how it looked in person, because as

1619
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes they don't look the same. And dude,

1620
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 1: i mean, don't get me wrong, he was getting beat

1621
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: up and his corner was like, dude, you got to

1622
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: stick and move. But he was trying to stick and move.

1623
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: And that was the ninth round for the first part

1624
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 1: of it. But then but Tayev just kind of overwhelmed them.

1625
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me wrong, but Tayev was gonna

1626
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 1: win that fight, and he was gonna win it impressively.

1627
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: And you can definitely make the argument that the referee

1628
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 1: saved him a little bit of beating. I didn't think

1629
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: it was the cleanest stoppage, a little early for my

1630
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, sensibilities, But okay, either way, either way, how

1631
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: did he look? Dude, he looked like a fucking warhammer,

1632
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: is what he looked like. He didn't take a ton

1633
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: of damage in the way that a lot of these

1634
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 1: forward pressure, high guard guys tend to do, although some

1635
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 1: of the body work in some of the uppercuts. He

1636
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 1: was there for what you can see here, but later on.

1637
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: This fight just passed this round. Right around the fifth

1638
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,560
Speaker 1: or sixth, he began to turn it on, and this

1639
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 1: is where he was switching stances and getting James up

1640
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: against the rope. I still think Enis does evil shit

1641
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: to a guy like Buttayev, but you're right he is.

1642
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: He is a fresh face and this was a very

1643
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 1: impressed the performance. I just feel like Ennis, dude, he's

1644
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 1: gonna be a weight class champion inevitably, and he's probably

1645
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: gonna be a weight class champion across several different weight classes.

1646
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,839
Speaker 1: He is extraordinarily talented.

1647
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 2: I'd love to see him against the Keith Thurman. That

1648
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 2: was a fight that Ennis, his father and manager Bosa,

1649
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 2: was going after. Thurman didn't want it. While I can

1650
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 2: certainly question whether the Thurman types are gonna want to

1651
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 2: fight this guy if there's not major belts at Steak, Yeah,

1652
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 2: for sure. But Luke let's let's I agree with you

1653
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 2: what he would do to Boutayav. But I think it's

1654
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 2: a style matchup i'd love to see, like JAMAIAV. We

1655
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 2: can only know so much about Boots, but legitimately, if

1656
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 2: I told you tomorrow, he's fighting a Spence or a Crawford.

1657
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 2: You'd have a hard time if you man the underdog,

1658
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 2: which you probably should, you'd have a hard time making

1659
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 2: it too big, Luke, you really would.

1660
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he beats Spence. I would pick him

1661
01:15:55,479 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: to beat Spence. The Crawford one only be because only

1662
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 1: because Ennis hasn't been on that really big stage in

1663
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 1: the way that Crawford has. You know, Crawford fought like

1664
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 1: con at MSG was like this giant spectacle, you know,

1665
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 1: twenty four years. I think that's what was the MSG.

1666
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:15,839
Speaker 1: You know, so there's been bigger arenas, bigger moments, bigger names,

1667
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 1: sort of that kind of thing, and what does it

1668
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 1: do to you? But I will tell you this, what

1669
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 1: is what is I think, Uh, Crawford is in is

1670
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: what mid till to late thirties something like that. Uh,

1671
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: and Ennis is twenty four in two years, I don't

1672
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 1: I don't know who the fuck beats him? He is?

1673
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's why that that that Sean Porter

1674
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 2: fight next month is important to see if Crawford still

1675
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 2: on that level. You know, we haven't seen him against

1676
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 2: a super elite. But but I think you're right this

1677
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 2: the kid is good.

1678
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 1: The kid is wrecking showtime.

1679
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 2: And PBC have something super duper CBC doesn't, so so

1680
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 2: he's the rare, the rare guy featured in these parts

1681
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 2: that is not an Alhiman guy. I don't know who

1682
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 2: is he with. I didn't know that his father is

1683
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 2: his manager, so he's uh, it's interesting. Could that slow

1684
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 2: his advance in getting fights against these PBC well thwits?

1685
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how that politics work,

1686
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 2: but you know, we'll see.

1687
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: All right, So that's enough for our top five. Now

1688
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 1: is where we answer your questions? Would you leave for

1689
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 1: us on Instagram? Every Sunday it's time for dms from

1690
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 1: donks poor.

1691
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 2: He Hall.

1692
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: Once again, MMA fans not understanding what the Hall of

1693
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 1: Fame is supposed to look like? Okay, at Greg Leech

1694
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 1: ninety nine. Did Glover to share a punch himself a

1695
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: ticket to the UFC Hall of Fame? How on earth

1696
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 1: would he have done that? Would this title win and

1697
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 1: the run he had to go on in order to

1698
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 1: get here?

1699
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 2: No?

1700
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 1: No, not even close. BC.

1701
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 2: You don't think he punched himself a ticket to the

1702
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame?

1703
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 1: This Glover to share a No? No, I definitely don't.

1704
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: Are you kidding?

1705
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 3: This is this is Bisping's career again, Luke.

1706
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 1: Dude, he just won the title. Uh, which is from

1707
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: a character standpoint what he had to do to get here.

1708
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: From a talent standpoint, we did do to get here

1709
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 1: is all impressive. What the fuck does that have to

1710
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: do with the highest level of dominance available among the games?

1711
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 2: Okay, that conversation, which criteria are we talking the US?

1712
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: We're talking like UFC Hall of Fame. Well out just

1713
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 1: letting anybody then yeah, he's in there. We're talking like

1714
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame, where like there's some standards and

1715
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 1: practices here. No, he doesn't get all right, Well, le.

1716
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 2: Let's do this respectfully. If the UFC had had real

1717
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 2: had the same type of credibility in their in their

1718
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 2: selection process that a major league based you know that

1719
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 2: a Cooperstown has that a that a football Hall of

1720
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 2: Fame has that at times boxing has. Would you think

1721
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 2: that Bisping got over that hump with the rock Hold win.

1722
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 1: For Hall of Fame? Yes, again for the UFC, sure,

1723
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 1: but this is I mean, just think of it this way. Dude,

1724
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 1: is Glover to Shaa in the top ten of the

1725
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 1: best light heavyweights in UFC. His the answer is maybe,

1726
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 1: but even then he's at the very back of it, dude.

1727
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:08,799
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about Chuck Ladell, Rampage, Vanderlay, vetoor Tito,

1728
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 1: and the list goes on and on and on and

1729
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,600
Speaker 1: on from there. There are way more accomplished light heavyweights

1730
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 1: that aren't even sniffing the top ten. So well Glover

1731
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: did is remarkable, but it's not worthy of entry into

1732
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame.

1733
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 2: What goes against Glover is the like Bisping had, you know,

1734
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 2: the constant losses and step up fights even after the

1735
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 2: Jones fight, lost to Phil Davis in the next one,

1736
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 2: you know, and then he had the two knockout losses

1737
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 2: to Rumble and gust of some when they were step

1738
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 2: up moments, and then even the decision lost to Cory Anderson.

1739
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 2: So when you look up and down at what Glover

1740
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 2: has done in terms of names, do you give him

1741
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 2: credit for the twenty thirteen Rampage win. That's that's pre

1742
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 2: complete wash, right, Yeah, I mean, yeah, knocked out vater okay, submitted, Okay.

1743
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 1: But Bader's not in the list of the top two. Again,

1744
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: Vaterer's not even close to top ten heavy one O

1745
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 1: A very.

1746
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 2: Wash for shod He's got a cannon near win, a

1747
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 2: circle off win kutelb.

1748
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: Like this is Hall of Fame me, okay, okay, I'll

1749
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 1: tell you what.

1750
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. There have been others who who

1751
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 2: you may think are on his level, but like like

1752
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 2: guys like rock Hold and Wiven, for example, you start

1753
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 2: looking up and down, they got more wins than you

1754
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 2: realize against big names pocketed together. The Glover thing is

1755
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 2: a little bit more spread out, and he tends to

1756
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 2: have lost more step up fights. Yeah, Luke, okay, I

1757
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 2: don't think you're as crazy as I thought. If we

1758
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,560
Speaker 2: were using the same standards that we've seen applied in

1759
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 2: the best practices in sports Hall of Fames, just being

1760
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 2: a champion doesn't automatically mean you know, somebody can win

1761
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 2: multiple World Series and win two hundred and fifty games

1762
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 2: on the mound and it doesn't necessarily win mean automatically

1763
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 2: at their Hall of Famer. Yeah, I think you're right, Clover,

1764
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 2: Glover can can can fall short out. But but do

1765
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 2: you think Bisbane crossed that line?

1766
01:20:55,320 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 1: No, you're saying then, I mean I like Glover and

1767
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: Glover and I like missing a lot. I have a

1768
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: lot of respect for both of them. I don't know

1769
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 1: if those runs qualify for Hall of Fame?

1770
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 2: What about Favor What about Favor bro No, No, okay, Hey, look,

1771
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 2: we don't deliver, you know, the soft news or the

1772
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 2: good news. We delivered the real news here, Luke, Okay.

1773
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 1: But I mean, like understand something like somebody Glover has

1774
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 1: just been consistently very good. He's never been consistently excellent.

1775
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 1: He's been excellent maybe at times, but very good over time,

1776
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 1: especially the length of time. We're talking forty two years

1777
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,560
Speaker 1: old at where he's been fighting for twenty years or

1778
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 1: whatever it's been. You know, just consistently at a super

1779
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 1: high but at the highest level. Ultimately, we'll get you

1780
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 1: some pretty handsome rewards. I just don't think that should

1781
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: be resulting in the Hall of the Whole.

1782
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 3: I agree, I made I made.

1783
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 2: I made a very aggressive uh due to my met

1784
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 2: due to my Mets Braves old school hatred of the Braves.

1785
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 2: I made very aggressive cases that Chipper Jones was Hall

1786
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 2: of very good and shouldn't have gotten in. Look and people,

1787
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 2: the baseball peers were very upset about that. But you know,

1788
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 2: we do want I do sometimes want to penalize the

1789
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 2: Craig Bigio compilers and say, look, you were you were

1790
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 2: very good man, You're fucking great.

1791
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 3: You know, we should have standards in this bitch.

1792
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,679
Speaker 1: Right, you know what I'm saying, all right from at

1793
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 1: flannels and JITs, But this guy's a lot of fun.

1794
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 1: Is the Dagistan takeover of MMA just a trend or

1795
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 1: will it be sustainable long term? Motherfucker? That ain't good.

1796
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 1: That that spigott, that fire hose ain't getting turned off

1797
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 1: anytime soon.

1798
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 3: No, No, I mean look, what would you say?

1799
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:38,679
Speaker 2: This is comparable with that brazil takeover about twelve thirteen

1800
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 2: years ago.

1801
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the reality, dude, Brazil's always been good

1802
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 1: in combat sports. They had a big moment in the

1803
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 1: aughts when the UFC went down there and even before that.

1804
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 1: But like you go back to the earliest days of

1805
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 1: like NHB and rings fuck UFC one, Brazilians have always

1806
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: been good. And for that reason, now that the things

1807
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,560
Speaker 1: are moving in a place where you can discover and

1808
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 1: then recruit and then groom top talent to do big things, dude,

1809
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 1: I mean, combat sports is just written into the fucking

1810
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,799
Speaker 1: bloodlines of some of these people. They're gonna be dominant

1811
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: for a long time.

1812
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 2: Let's let's do a pie chart of what makes the

1813
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 2: smesh factory workers so fricking dynamic. And it's like every

1814
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 2: You're right, every promotion, one by one across the board,

1815
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 2: every division. They're starting to pop up, you know, the

1816
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 2: a linking beards and you're like, Okay, I've seen this before.

1817
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 3: These guys are incredible. What is it, Luke?

1818
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 2: Is it a pre natural toughness based on the circumstances

1819
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 2: of where they're from that makes a large part of

1820
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 2: the pie? Uh? A dedication to their craft at a

1821
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 2: younger age to just hammer home the wrestling that could

1822
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 2: be a part of it. Is it also just like

1823
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 2: almost a militaristic mindset, you know, like you don't see

1824
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 2: a lot of jokesters coming out of there. I mean,

1825
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 2: Tamaia sort of special in that regard because of the charisma,

1826
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 2: but you see a lot of like soldiers coming out

1827
01:23:58,160 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 2: of there, Luke, is that fair?

1828
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 1: I tend to think that when something takes on a

1829
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 1: cultural significance the way that combat sports has in this

1830
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: part of the world where you have you know, obviously

1831
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 1: wrestling is big, and you know all throughout that region

1832
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 1: from Azerbaijohn to Armenia to Iran, to Georgia to chech

1833
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 1: Dean the greater parts of Russia. It's not just that

1834
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 1: they're good at combat sports in many these places, Like

1835
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean, weightlifting is dominant here like anything masculine. These

1836
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 1: are all are perceived to be masculine anyway. They are

1837
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 1: all like just totally embedded into the fabric of the culture.

1838
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 1: And when that happens, a lot of things go along

1839
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 1: with it. You have state apparatuses or apparati that can

1840
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 1: discover and recruit talent. Like do you remember did you

1841
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 1: watch the last week's Contender series? They had a Chinese

1842
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 1: fighter on there, a woman who had washed out of

1843
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,560
Speaker 1: the Chinese Olympic weightlifting program, and I wanted to I

1844
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 1: didn't sweet at the time, but I want to be like, hope,

1845
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 1: folks know that doesn't mean shit, Like dude, they recruit

1846
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 1: thousands of kids every year inside China and put them

1847
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 1: in very special schools just to get them prepped over

1848
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 1: the course of their for the Olympics when they're eligible

1849
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 1: to compete and by age and everything else, Like that's

1850
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 1: their whole fucking focus. To fall out of that means

1851
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:08,600
Speaker 1: you could still be strong as an ox, and of

1852
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 1: course she was. It's similar to this one, like there's

1853
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 1: gonna be so many guys who don't make the Russian

1854
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 1: Olympic wrestling team just because you don't make it. How

1855
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 1: many good guys that are going to be outside of that?

1856
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 1: Because it has a dramatic cultural importance, you recruit them early.

1857
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 1: Everyone gets pushed in that direction. Blah blah blah. It

1858
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 1: just ends up finding, discovering, and creating these absolute fucking

1859
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 1: hammers every which way you look.

1860
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 2: That's I never I'd know no change Bhutayev, Who's who

1861
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 2: the boxer in the showtime in event, who's from Dakastan. Look,

1862
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 2: he was three hundred and ninety two and eight as

1863
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 2: an amateur and beat all these Olympic champions but yet

1864
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 2: never fought at the Olympics or the World Championships. And

1865
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 2: he had said that it's all amateur scandal politics, that like,

1866
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 2: if you're not the chosen one, you don't get the

1867
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 2: same push, but when you are the chosen one, you

1868
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 2: get every opportunity, have every avenue to succeed. We see

1869
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 2: that in Cuban boxers that go through that amateur system.

1870
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 1: So totally.

1871
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just more of an extreme focus, like you're

1872
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 2: saying on on giving all the you know, giving these

1873
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 2: guys every chance to succeed.

1874
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:18,799
Speaker 1: Uh at David's underscore Spangler, could you guys see Cody

1875
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 1: Sandhagen becoming the next gust of Sinn at bantamway? He

1876
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 1: is tough? Question?

1877
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 2: He already is. And that's that's not an insult because

1878
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 2: like I mentioned in the earlier well it is, but

1879
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 2: like to have these great eras like the four Kings

1880
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 2: we talk about all the time.

1881
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 3: They call Wolford Bernitez the fifth King for Puerto Rico.

1882
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 2: He was on that level. He just lost to those guys, right,

1883
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:42,679
Speaker 2: So it's like somebody even look, even within the four Kings.

1884
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 2: Sometimes Thomas Hearns gets some criticism because okay, lost that

1885
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 2: one to Haggler, and he lost the first one to

1886
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 2: Ray Leonard and and you know, and got the unfortunate

1887
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 2: draw on the second one. We never got over the

1888
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 2: hump against those guys. Some you know, like somebody's got

1889
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 2: to play the five. You know, Joe Fraser lost twice

1890
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 2: style he somebody's got a that role, Luke, Now he

1891
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 2: can come back and win a title one day, he

1892
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:06,600
Speaker 2: seems to have that ability and that would erase this.

1893
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 3: But for now, he's the guy that can come.

1894
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 2: As close as you can, can't come and not get it, Luke,

1895
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 2: because the other guys are just a little bit better.

1896
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 2: That's the reality of it.

1897
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he might end up being that, but

1898
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 1: he's only twenty nine. I would see. I would very

1899
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: much wait to see what happens. I still think he

1900
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 1: might wear a title around his waist by the time.

1901
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 2: But age isn't the the deciding factor in the question,

1902
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 2: because you know, Guston goes out there, fights, Grapa, loses

1903
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 2: to Jones, fights, grape loses to Cormier, gets sent to

1904
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 2: hell by Rumble. That's the same spots San Higgins in

1905
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 2: he got sent to hell by only by Sterling instead,

1906
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 2: and then fought those other two guys really close.

1907
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 3: Correct.

1908
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you under the impression he can't get better

1909
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 1: or something?

1910
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 2: Because I'm no, No, I'm just saying, for now, he

1911
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 2: is the Gustison of this weight class.

1912
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 3: He already is for now.

1913
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 1: For now, he might be there, but I think long.

1914
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,679
Speaker 2: Term doesn't mean he's destined to come up short, which

1915
01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 2: I guess is what happened in the end for Gustinson.

1916
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 2: But like I don't hold anything against guffs. I don't

1917
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 2: think Gustinson failed to get the best out of him.

1918
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 2: I think he just fell just short. Would you agree

1919
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:08,560
Speaker 2: with that?

1920
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 1: Also? I think if he was as fresh now, I mean,

1921
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: Gustason put Glover's lights out, Like if he was as

1922
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 1: fresh now as he was, then he'd be a weight

1923
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: class champion too. You know, Glover just kind of hung

1924
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 1: the fuck on in the most miraculous of ways, are right?

1925
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,599
Speaker 2: You always wonder historically, Luke, when you've got a dominant

1926
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 2: champion for a long time, you always wonder who underneath

1927
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 2: them that couldn't beat them, you know, like DC could

1928
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 2: to Jones. Although DC did have his moment because of

1929
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 2: Jones as many outside the cage moments. But you always

1930
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 2: wonder which one of those guys that lost to that

1931
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 2: all time great champion could have been the champion for

1932
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 2: a long time and we would have thought of him

1933
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 2: differently if that guy wasn't there. But Luke, you can't.

1934
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 2: You can't control history like that.

1935
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 1: Okay, you certainly can't, all right. I mean you know

1936
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:57,759
Speaker 1: what if you never Luke, if you from at Burns

1937
01:28:57,840 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: to I'm moving along, dude, you never bore.

1938
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 2: Would I'd be the face of MMA media right now, Luke? Okay,

1939
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,679
Speaker 2: would the American alpha be on top if it wasn't

1940
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:09,639
Speaker 2: for you stealing all my views and subscribers and thunder? Luke?

1941
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 1: Right right? Just like that? Okay from Ashat Burns too.

1942
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 1: This is the worst question in America. How would Peter

1943
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 1: Yon fair in a boxing contest against Lopez Teo, Femo,

1944
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:24,600
Speaker 1: Lopez Garcia, Hany Haney is spelled wrong, and Tank. He

1945
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 1: would get viciously chaoed by probably all of them.

1946
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean.

1947
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 1: I don't even know what the fuck this quest. Oh,

1948
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 1: he's a master of boxing in Russia or a master

1949
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 1: of sport in boxing and Russia. Great, he would get How.

1950
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 2: Would Claricia Shields do tomorrow against Kayla Harrison?

1951
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 1: Luke right? She would get viciously fucking ground and pounded. Yeah,

1952
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 1: John would get absolutely obliterated. Okay, at I underscore MESSI

1953
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 1: underscore eighty nine. If Luke shaved his upper lip, would

1954
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 1: he feel as washed up? I don't know as what.

1955
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what that's supposed to mean. Would he

1956
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 1: put BC in a Dagistani hand cuff? On the next

1957
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 1: Rooftop Diaries as a reflex that BC or I would

1958
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 1: join an Amish farm and then be the guy who

1959
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:08,839
Speaker 1: wakes up with the cows and the roosters.

1960
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 2: And is there any potential alterations to your beard that

1961
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 2: you believe could help you look younger and make you

1962
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 2: feel happier that you haven't.

1963
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:20,759
Speaker 1: I don't know why there is great consternation and worry

1964
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 1: about my beard that there appears to be among the

1965
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 1: great unwashed masses. I would kindly ask them to focus

1966
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 1: more on going to the Gathering of the Juggalos every

1967
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 1: summer than my beard and move on from this. All right, Okay,

1968
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:43,959
Speaker 1: this is great, And speaking of the Gathering of the Juggalos,

1969
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 1: it's time for your segment.

1970
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 2: All right. Yeah, this is what we do every Monday

1971
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 2: in these parts. We scour the globe for the highs

1972
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 2: and lows, the good, the bad, the ugly, the in between,

1973
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 2: in combat sports and beyond. It's called have you seen

1974
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 2: this ship? Oh God? Oh? All right, Luke. We were

1975
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 2: in Abu Dhabi on Saturday for UFC two sixty seven.

1976
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 2: How about this knee counter ko from leron Murphy bro.

1977
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:18,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna talk about him on extra credit. But

1978
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 1: he quietly putting together a very impressive run. Quietly, but

1979
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 1: he is doing it. He looked good.

1980
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 2: I mean that you have to rewind that to see

1981
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:31,839
Speaker 2: what he actually did. To Makwan Amir Kani Luke.

1982
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, sent him packing is what he did. There was

1983
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 1: a lot a lot of these guys who come out

1984
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 1: of certain parts of the country. I mean, he's obviously

1985
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 1: he's very talented. Amer Kanie I want to say he's not.

1986
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 1: He's he deserves the place in the UFC that he

1987
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:44,640
Speaker 1: has earned, and he's got some great wins. But I

1988
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 1: noticed there's always a lot of hype around depending if

1989
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 1: you come from the right camp and the right training

1990
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 1: partners or blah blah blah blah blah. Loron Murphy didn't

1991
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 1: have any of that, and he goes in there and

1992
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:55,600
Speaker 1: puts his lights out, tells you how good he is.

1993
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 1: No hype, and he's out there putting together very impressive

1994
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 1: career so far.

1995
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 2: A big hype for Hamza CHAMAI. As we mentioned Luke,

1996
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 2: let's look at this celebration. We've seen the backflip off

1997
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 2: the cages. It's the first time anyone's balanced themselves and celebrated.

1998
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 3: I'm sure you have to hates that.

1999
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 1: He's a fucking freak in every way that is. He's

2000
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 1: a he's a marvel, dude. He's a total marvel. And

2001
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 1: I just I'm I can't wait to see what he

2002
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 1: does in the octagon.

2003
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 2: Luke, we're not all Dixon donuts here. Let's see a

2004
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 2: wholesome moment. Here's a potray. Yan's son just really celebrating

2005
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 2: his dad's big win by by you know, taking a

2006
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 2: close look at the at the hardware.

2007
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 1: There. It was a good moment.

2008
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:35,720
Speaker 3: His son was pretty cute, Luke.

2009
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, ten Lindo, as my wife would say, very very

2010
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 1: cute little kid. I got a great haircut too. Dad

2011
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 1: took care of him.

2012
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 2: There.

2013
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 1: I see that, see you, pops like.

2014
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 4: That moment haircut when he had when he had his

2015
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 4: boy around his neck during the post fight interview, because like,

2016
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 4: Yan's a badass, but you can see he's also you know,

2017
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 4: a good love and dad and there that that's a

2018
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 4: that's a moment for his son to be a part

2019
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 4: of that.

2020
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:55,760
Speaker 3: Damn you know.

2021
01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, where are you by the way on the whole

2022
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 1: hospital jokes to me, the ship is so fucking lame

2023
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 1: and overplayed but everyone loves them.

2024
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 2: Dude, I've been on a on a roller coaster of

2025
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 2: hasbulah emotions or at first, like everybody, I was like

2026
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 2: this is great, and I'm like, this is exploitation. This

2027
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 2: is kind of Howard Stern rap pack beetlejuice level. And

2028
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:16,720
Speaker 2: then he he had a big weekend which we're gonna

2029
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 2: get into a second, and it may have changed me.

2030
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:20,640
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, Luke. Let's keep it going though, uh

2031
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 2: Verna John d Roba took the loss there against our

2032
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:27,760
Speaker 2: girl Reboss, But let's go to this this walk out

2033
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 2: here he boss, you mean yeah, I meant yeah.

2034
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 1: I don't know the I don't know the story of

2035
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 1: the hat that she's wearing.

2036
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 2: Well, Vena or Verna walked out, I don't know if

2037
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 2: you can hear it, folks to island boys, Luke, We've

2038
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 2: seen humorous walkouts before, whether it be that Shark Baby

2039
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 2: Shark song or whatever? Did you did you pop for this, Luke?

2040
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 2: Or was this was this lame? What do you got?

2041
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 1: I know You're thinking I'm lying, and I know you

2042
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:55,680
Speaker 1: think that I'm not telling the truth, but I am.

2043
01:33:56,120 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 1: I typically mute UFC and most MMA broadcasts style. I

2044
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 1: watch like I listened to like music in the background.

2045
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:10,679
Speaker 2: Okay, her walking out to Island Boys funny or lame, Luke, I'll.

2046
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:12,719
Speaker 1: Call it mostly funny. I'll call it she was trying.

2047
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 1: She was making a good faith effort. I'll give her that.

2048
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 1: If someone else did it after this.

2049
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 2: It's lame speaking about Island Boy. Johnny Plasma has tweeted

2050
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 2: this out us so many times. I don't think we

2051
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 2: need to wait for Wednesday's fans submissions, Luke, your.

2052
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 1: Thoughts on this, Dear Jesus t fing Christ? What is this?

2053
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:33,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what what what the what

2054
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 2: my Savior has to do with this, Luke, But yeah,

2055
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:38,839
Speaker 2: this is I don't like this. This is very disturbing.

2056
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 1: I need, I need. Can someone come to my house

2057
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 1: here in the capital of the United States and then

2058
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 1: just spray me in the face with carbonic acid so

2059
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 1: I can never see this and then forget this ever happened.

2060
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:54,600
Speaker 1: Thank you.

2061
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 2: Let's see some more wholesome stuff. Here's some emotional reactions

2062
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 2: to Glover to share as Gold old winning Gold title

2063
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:04,599
Speaker 2: winning at age forty two. Here is his former teammate

2064
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 2: Chuck Ladell reacting at home. Luke this was a good moment.

2065
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I don't can who in my life would

2066
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 1: be that proud of me for anything.

2067
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,640
Speaker 2: That was me watching Rogan Luke until until the co

2068
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 2: host moment.

2069
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 1: That was like fuck, okay, fair enough, fair enough, I'll

2070
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 1: take that.

2071
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:25,679
Speaker 2: I'll take that all right, real, recognizing real. Here's Big

2072
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 2: noog Nogera catching his his countryman and friend in the

2073
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 2: in the aisle after the wind. This fell, This fell

2074
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 2: good to Luke.

2075
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. I always love it when they do the c grip,

2076
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 1: you know for the coast. Oh yeah, because they're all

2077
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 1: used to training and shit.

2078
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:44,320
Speaker 2: I also love Big or Glover kissing DC on the

2079
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:46,599
Speaker 2: head during the in just good times, good good feels

2080
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 2: all around. Glover gave us that moment. But you mentioned

2081
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 2: has buel Oh Luke. He was a guest of Dana

2082
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:54,680
Speaker 2: White and he took over Fight Island and made it

2083
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 2: his home.

2084
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:58,040
Speaker 3: Let's look at the highlights. Here's him meeting Big nog.

2085
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 2: Luke speaking of think about how's bule is you got

2086
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 2: to you gotta be careful Luke about it. I mean,

2087
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 2: let you go right right to the right cross.

2088
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 1: So just some fifty pop I will say the bit

2089
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 1: where the bit where he steals on people in the

2090
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 1: face is mildly funny.

2091
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 2: So if people don't know, and it took a lot

2092
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 2: of us time to realize, he's nineteen years old, Luke.

2093
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:18,680
Speaker 1: So it's actually not a child, Yes, he's not. That's

2094
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:21,559
Speaker 1: that's the bit. That's the bit is that he looks

2095
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 1: like a child but then acts and says things like

2096
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 1: a foul mouthed you know adult.

2097
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:29,759
Speaker 2: Well, he put the same shtick on DC, Daniel Cormier.

2098
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 2: Let's see the results. Oh yeah, there's has Bro right there.

2099
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:40,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you gotta be careful DC.

2100
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:44,679
Speaker 2: Also, Lukey was brought into the cage to celebrate Islam

2101
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 2: Mahachev's win, and he was up on Habib's shoulders like

2102
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 2: he was the mini meat of doctor Evil.

2103
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:51,480
Speaker 3: And look at them bumping.

2104
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:56,639
Speaker 1: Heads here Luke, headbudding. Yeah, this is supposed to be funny.

2105
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 1: I uh so, I am told. Everyone's like, oh, Luke,

2106
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 1: you're a boomer. That's right. I don't think stupid things

2107
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 1: are funny.

2108
01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 2: Well this went to a new level. There's another small

2109
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:08,479
Speaker 2: man named Obdu who's also trying to become like a

2110
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 2: singing station. Pair of these two, Yeah, they had a

2111
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 2: break up, so has Bulah hates this guy, Luke with

2112
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:15,759
Speaker 2: a passion.

2113
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, I mean get it because they're not kids,

2114
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 1: so they look like.

2115
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 2: When you hear Friend of the Program in MK Doc five,

2116
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 2: actor Oscar Willis come out and ask Dana if these

2117
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 2: two are gonna.

2118
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 3: Fight in the cage. That's where I get all come up,

2119
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 3: like spare me.

2120
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:35,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, miss me.

2121
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna have to kick

2122
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 1: him in the balls next time I see him, which

2123
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 1: will probably be well, you know what, I think he's

2124
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:43,599
Speaker 1: gonna be in New York. He won't be in Vegas

2125
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 1: for fight weeks, so yeah, all right, next time I

2126
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 1: see you, Oscar kicking the balls.

2127
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:50,720
Speaker 2: Luke, let's go to Asian kickboxing.

2128
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:52,599
Speaker 3: Here the card was crushed one thirty.

2129
01:37:53,080 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 2: Check out this face plant ko first, Oh god, and

2130
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 2: wat's the celebration, Luke, you have your moment. He did

2131
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 2: the billionaire wall strut to the corner and then let's

2132
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 2: finish it off. I don't know the guy's name, but

2133
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:14,760
Speaker 2: oh yeah, oh, they didn't show it, Luke. He did

2134
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 2: the brush off and then he dabbed, which was you know,

2135
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 2: I mean, it was so lame mixed with something so

2136
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 2: violent that it had to show up on this show.

2137
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:24,639
Speaker 1: Luke, bro, you gotta get out of the corner man.

2138
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 1: This dude was coming out there like a fucking freight train.

2139
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 3: Luke.

2140
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:29,960
Speaker 2: He wasn't the biggest winner of the week though. You

2141
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:31,879
Speaker 2: know actor Ken Jong from.

2142
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:35,800
Speaker 1: The Hangover Captain micro penis right, yep.

2143
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:38,679
Speaker 2: Let's check him out on College Game Day on ESPN.

2144
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:41,720
Speaker 1: Boy, you thought a close game.

2145
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:45,799
Speaker 2: I'm going to UCLA because my wife went to UCLA Medical.

2146
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 1: Shout out, Tran, you completely how that's her last name?

2147
01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:50,840
Speaker 2: That's her last name?

2148
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:52,679
Speaker 1: Relaxed, ESPN?

2149
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 2: How dare you?

2150
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:03,200
Speaker 1: Can you imagine having a hog his size and then

2151
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 1: showing it for money? I mean, I can't tell if

2152
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 1: he's like self loathing or full of self confidence.

2153
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 2: I don't know, but pull off, Tran. You complete me

2154
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 2: ho on on on an ESPN platform like that. That's

2155
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 2: pretty clever. That's pretty well done, all right.

2156
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 1: He makes me giggle time to time.

2157
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 2: Tayo Femo Lopez Junior was in the gym with your

2158
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 2: boy third burns in Luke, and check out the body shot.

2159
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:33,559
Speaker 1: Yeah it's half thens Bjorn Thorsen.

2160
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:36,640
Speaker 2: Whatever, whatever, Luke, I mean that.

2161
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:38,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that looked legit, Luke, I'm not.

2162
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 1: Coming Tayo, Tayo return the favor.

2163
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:43,280
Speaker 2: Bro Oh, I don't have that film.

2164
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 1: Tao hit him with a solid one.

2165
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:49,679
Speaker 2: Uh, Luke, what we what we didn't focus on heading

2166
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 2: into uh Clarissa Shields second PFL fight was that she

2167
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 2: may have drinxed herself. This is what she walked out

2168
01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 2: to the way in in ahead of this PFL card.

2169
01:39:59,000 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 1: Luke.

2170
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 2: The guote had the versace robe and we know the

2171
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 2: long line.

2172
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeahs DDE Tyson Fury was just stewing in one. He

2173
01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 1: goes out there and fucking has the lifetime.

2174
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:13,040
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I think he's the only one

2175
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:17,759
Speaker 2: that's broken the same curse that got mos Vidal Connor

2176
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 2: out of Sonia. I got sent to Elba Floyd while

2177
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 2: I was wearing it, you know. Yeah? All right, Luke, Hey,

2178
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:27,880
Speaker 2: Tattoos of the Week, Luke, we love when you judge

2179
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:28,599
Speaker 2: great tats.

2180
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 3: I think they call this tip to shaft.

2181
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:36,719
Speaker 1: We should get that tattoo.

2182
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:39,320
Speaker 2: Only real friends can have a tattoo like that, Luke,

2183
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 2: lit little tripod action.

2184
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 1: We should get that tattoo.

2185
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:44,800
Speaker 2: Interesting, all right?

2186
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:47,000
Speaker 1: Would you get part of this in Vegas. Have I

2187
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 1: got the other part.

2188
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:51,800
Speaker 2: Only if you like drugged me up? And I wasn't

2189
01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:54,040
Speaker 2: making my own decisions, So no, Luke, that will not

2190
01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 2: be doing this. Let's go over to this boxing super

2191
01:40:56,560 --> 01:41:00,200
Speaker 2: fan getting the Canelo Caleb plant stare down on the

2192
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 2: back of his hair. Luke, it's not a tattoo, but

2193
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:03,720
Speaker 2: it's art just the same.

2194
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:04,839
Speaker 3: What do you think it's a haircut?

2195
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:10,560
Speaker 1: I thought it looked like you and me.

2196
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 2: That's what a lot of our listeners said.

2197
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 1: It's I.

2198
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 2: Guess I'm Canelo in this relationship, Luke. All right, I'll

2199
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 2: take that. Speaking of Canelo super fans, Luke, I don't

2200
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:26,720
Speaker 2: know what this means, but they caught this fan with

2201
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 2: a uh oh first sorry, look at this, Luke. What

2202
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:32,280
Speaker 2: about the shading on this one. You gotta love. This

2203
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:35,439
Speaker 2: is a Canelo fan on his right on his left forearm.

2204
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:39,679
Speaker 1: Not bad, that's actually I would just say, I guess

2205
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:42,680
Speaker 1: it's hard to know how brand new it is and

2206
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 1: whether some of those the heavy coloring around, like the

2207
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 1: side at the top of the head, would that fade

2208
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 1: a little bit because you would want it to. But

2209
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:53,200
Speaker 1: it's otherwise pretty good work.

2210
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:57,000
Speaker 2: And we cannot confirm if this was Caleb Plant's arm

2211
01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:58,960
Speaker 2: at all. This is not from all access. But here's

2212
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 2: another little fan jumping in with a tat Luke, can

2213
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 2: you rate this? It says rip Canelo. So uh, little

2214
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 2: little morbid, a little premature.

2215
01:42:11,240 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah that's not great.

2216
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Luke. Let's go to old people fighting

2217
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 2: in a bar. That's always fun. You try to take

2218
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 2: a selfie, you do it for the gram, but watch

2219
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:21,920
Speaker 2: out over your shoulder. Can we full screen this?

2220
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:32,120
Speaker 1: You think they're arguing over like Brexit or some shit.

2221
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, proper twelve is the worst whiskey? How about that?

2222
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:36,599
Speaker 3: That's how that started?

2223
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:36,880
Speaker 4: Luke?

2224
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 2: A right, yeah, Luke, we need to spend time in

2225
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:43,600
Speaker 2: the UK. Like imagine if if MK opened up a

2226
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 2: UK studio and you and I, like, you know, every

2227
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 2: other month we'd go out there for a week.

2228
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:52,360
Speaker 1: I would have you been to London before?

2229
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:54,599
Speaker 2: Never? I want to badly. I want to do all

2230
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 2: of UK, all of our I want to meet our

2231
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 2: Welsh fans. I want to go up to the to

2232
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:01,680
Speaker 2: the UH, to the coast. I want to do it all, Luke,

2233
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 2: all right.

2234
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 1: I would I my brother lived in London for several years.

2235
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:10,720
Speaker 1: I won a couple of times. It's it's very expensive

2236
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 1: and the Brits aren't especially friendly, but it's a cool

2237
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 1: city just the same.

2238
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:18,160
Speaker 3: All right, Luke, most of us on.

2239
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 2: This show are just really caught up in the everyday

2240
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 2: passings of your beard. But this next guy, Luke, he

2241
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 2: don't just got a beard. He's got what they call

2242
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 2: a chess stash your thoughts.

2243
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:33,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not employed by any place that matters.

2244
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 1: I can tell you that, Luke.

2245
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:38,559
Speaker 2: My church used to have this youth pastor who could

2246
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:40,639
Speaker 2: do this chest stash and he would show everybody take

2247
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:42,680
Speaker 2: a shirt off. But then he said his next goal

2248
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:45,320
Speaker 2: was the bodstash because he thought he could connect from

2249
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:48,639
Speaker 2: here all the way all the way down. Luke.

2250
01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we are we are primates, and this

2251
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 1: man is living proof.

2252
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, you're going to get to the results

2253
01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:01,720
Speaker 2: of this fight. I believe on odds and ends. But

2254
01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 2: here's from the way in of Top Rank Boxing on Friday,

2255
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:07,640
Speaker 2: Josuay Vargas and Jose Zapeida, they got into it a

2256
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:08,000
Speaker 2: little bit.

2257
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:11,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm gonna talk about this later, but I want

2258
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 1: everyone to keep in mind. The guy on the right

2259
01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:16,760
Speaker 1: is the one who not adjusted this way in. By

2260
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 1: the way, we didn't talk about the fact that at

2261
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:22,439
Speaker 1: the weigh INDs he was also taking Zapata's belt and

2262
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:24,559
Speaker 1: trying to grab it off of him. I will Zepeida

2263
01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 1: was trying to be professional and not escalate and everything.

2264
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 1: I want you to keep that in mind for later.

2265
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 2: Yes, a little they call that a a What do

2266
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:32,639
Speaker 2: they call that, Luca?

2267
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 1: He come up and.

2268
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, a harbinger of doom to come on this show, Luke,

2269
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 2: Let's have Halloween fun. Here's on the menu. This makes

2270
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:43,760
Speaker 2: me want to throw up in my mouth and then

2271
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 2: snort it. Luke. They call it halloweeners. It's black licorice

2272
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:53,760
Speaker 2: flavored hot dogs. That's some kryptonite shit right there, Luke.

2273
01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:59,560
Speaker 1: One hundred and ten calories for one of those, I

2274
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 1: mean black, A serious question. What would you put on it?

2275
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:10,960
Speaker 2: Uh?

2276
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 3: Well, you know even if I.

2277
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 2: I guess I don't, even if I didn't have a

2278
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:19,639
Speaker 2: black liver. To me, black licorice is like the it's

2279
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:23,800
Speaker 2: I mean, there's nothing grosser. There's not a single thing

2280
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:26,320
Speaker 2: that tastes grosser than that, Luke. And now you're going

2281
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 2: to put it in a hot dog?

2282
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I would love.

2283
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:35,840
Speaker 2: A bet that ends with you having to eat a

2284
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 2: halloweener with no condiments.

2285
01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:42,960
Speaker 1: Those should be called the BC's right there, the halloweeners.

2286
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 1: That's what that's what your organs look like, Luke.

2287
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 2: Your Colombian relatives were over. I think to decorate pumpkins

2288
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:52,479
Speaker 2: this weekend. Right, let's see the results.

2289
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:57,720
Speaker 1: Oh God, oh come look, that's just why is this?

2290
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:00,840
Speaker 1: Why is why is this Columbian pray?

2291
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 2: Tell I don't write the bits, Luke, I just delivered them. Okay,

2292
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:07,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Wow, that's just that's not acceptable.

2293
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:11,680
Speaker 2: That's not good. Hey, Cypress Hill got into the Halloween spirit, Luke,

2294
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 2: where are you down with this? Can we zoom in

2295
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 2: on this?

2296
01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:20,360
Speaker 1: Oh? Dear God, please let these people find me and

2297
01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 1: take it away. Wow, I want to be see. I

2298
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:29,560
Speaker 1: can't explain to you that, Like if someone was like,

2299
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:31,360
Speaker 1: how do you want to spend the rest of your life?

2300
01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:33,760
Speaker 1: You're looking at it. You're looking at it.

2301
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:37,800
Speaker 2: It's like I'm ready to plug into the matrix right now.

2302
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 3: Let's go.

2303
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:41,880
Speaker 2: Let's go all right, yeah, let's let's we're gonna play

2304
01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 2: audio on.

2305
01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:42,760
Speaker 1: This one, Luke.

2306
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 3: The Halloween costume of the year may have come from

2307
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:45,519
Speaker 3: this little guy.

2308
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:53,800
Speaker 1: That's more hostibule of jokes. Oh fat guy in a

2309
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 1: little coat.

2310
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, this kid nailed it.

2311
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 1: That's honestly, really really really good, really good.

2312
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 2: That's that's whoever parents are of that child. You've you've

2313
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:11,439
Speaker 2: you've seen one.

2314
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:14,639
Speaker 1: Don't you feel like the kids today they just everyone,

2315
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:16,720
Speaker 1: you know, kind of laments patrissea O'Neil, who I thought

2316
01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:19,200
Speaker 1: was a brilliant comic, maybe the best comic I've ever seen.

2317
01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 1: But the kids today, man, they don't know what they

2318
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 1: missed with Chris Farley. They don't know what they.

2319
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:26,200
Speaker 2: Miss Oh no, you know he really you know, the

2320
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:31,719
Speaker 2: the Farley, Sandler and Spade movies that that broke off, SNL,

2321
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:35,400
Speaker 2: that whole run just incredible. Look okay, Chris Rock Yeah,

2322
01:47:35,439 --> 01:47:38,280
Speaker 2: all that good ship Beverly Hills, Ninja remember that one, dude,

2323
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:40,400
Speaker 2: that's my kids and I watched all the time.

2324
01:47:40,439 --> 01:47:42,439
Speaker 3: That's actually a really good Farley movie.

2325
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 2: Doesn't get the credit because it's not as good as

2326
01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 2: Tommy Boy and the others. Black Sheep is Like, it's

2327
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:50,559
Speaker 2: kind of like Tommy Boy too, but it also sucks.

2328
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 2: It's it's hard, you know what I'm saying. There's some

2329
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 2: good moments in it, Luke, but it's not great.

2330
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:56,720
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Tommy Boy and Black Sheep are the ones

2331
01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:59,639
Speaker 1: he gets noted for. But Beverly Hill's Ninja not too bad.

2332
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:00,320
Speaker 1: Too bad?

2333
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Harley's incredible and really small roles too, like

2334
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:05,839
Speaker 2: the bus driver and Billy Madison.

2335
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 3: Really everything he ever touched, Luke was gold.

2336
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:11,439
Speaker 2: Okay, Luke. A lot of people thinking this is the

2337
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 2: type of actions I would do. But look at this

2338
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 2: guy caught on camera in a convenience store. What do

2339
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:26,680
Speaker 2: you think of his behavior? Let's zoom in. So he

2340
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:33,240
Speaker 2: he goes to the hot dog rack, steals it, and

2341
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:35,559
Speaker 2: then just throws it into the gum area. Luke, that's

2342
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:36,560
Speaker 2: you know what.

2343
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:41,000
Speaker 1: Maybe he thought he was at Costco and uh was

2344
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:43,920
Speaker 1: just trying to free samples. B see yeah, yeah yeah.

2345
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:47,440
Speaker 1: I just want to point out these are your contemporaries,

2346
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:50,200
Speaker 1: These are your people right here at these music.

2347
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 2: I will say that if you go to my hometown

2348
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 2: of NOx, Connecticut, and you go inside a Cumberland farms

2349
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:56,800
Speaker 2: for about forty five minutes, you'll see about five of

2350
01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:59,400
Speaker 2: those guys right there. There's no question about it. That

2351
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 2: is those are my people. Yes, Luke, all right, let's

2352
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:04,679
Speaker 2: go to the t shirt of the week. Luke, interested

2353
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:05,519
Speaker 2: to get your thoughts on this.

2354
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 1: I understand this man, Yeah, I understand him completely.

2355
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:16,720
Speaker 3: Look, you ever been drunk near a staircase?

2356
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:20,560
Speaker 2: I one time did a back A few times I

2357
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 2: fell backwards over a stairway trying this exact move.

2358
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:28,639
Speaker 1: Oh oh fuck, oh my god, and Luke I felt

2359
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:30,759
Speaker 1: lucky he didn't take a full on spill.

2360
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 2: So I took about a ten foot fall on the

2361
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 2: back of my neck and I still to this day.

2362
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 2: If I was sober, Luke, I would have been paralyzed.

2363
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:39,080
Speaker 2: Because I was that drunk. I just got up and

2364
01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 2: walked away like nothing happened.

2365
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 1: First of all, go back, go back, show this one

2366
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:46,040
Speaker 1: more time, Show one more time. Is my man wearing

2367
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:49,559
Speaker 1: yep Canadian tuxedo? He deserved it? Fuck this guy?

2368
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 2: Wow? Wow, take that broad stare. I guess wow.

2369
01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:58,439
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I'm not saying Canadians are great.

2370
01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:00,800
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this ass wipe. You dressed like a

2371
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 1: total Listen. If you dress like a jerk job, jerk job,

2372
01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 1: things should happen to you.

2373
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:11,599
Speaker 2: Hence, look, before you work out in your front yard today,

2374
01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:14,880
Speaker 2: I think you should reconsider the way you take in

2375
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 2: your pre workout protein.

2376
01:50:18,360 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 3: They call this Luke bro cocky.

2377
01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:32,760
Speaker 1: So he's doing what's called dry scooping. Oh nope, not

2378
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:33,639
Speaker 1: dry scooping.

2379
01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 3: Oh boy, yeah, Okay, let's close with this, dude.

2380
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:41,639
Speaker 1: People are people are bored? Huh?

2381
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:44,800
Speaker 2: Well yeah, there was a pandemic, Luke, let's close with this.

2382
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:47,920
Speaker 1: See is why like teenagers always smear like dog shit

2383
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,479
Speaker 1: on people's car handles and like toilet paper houses because

2384
01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:51,360
Speaker 1: they're just fucking bored.

2385
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 2: They're bored. Well you'd think they with the Internet and

2386
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:57,040
Speaker 2: and and Netflix, they wouldn't be doing this, but apparently

2387
01:50:57,120 --> 01:50:59,519
Speaker 2: they are. Luke. We always you know, you really have

2388
01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:01,920
Speaker 2: to check your circle, keep it tight, make sure you

2389
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:04,599
Speaker 2: got a few Andy Kims and chewbaccas people that are

2390
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:07,280
Speaker 2: about it, about it when shit goes down. Look, we're

2391
01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 2: trying to build that team right now at MK right.

2392
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:10,040
Speaker 2: I want winners.

2393
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:12,160
Speaker 3: I want people that will bleed for this shit.

2394
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:14,760
Speaker 2: Okay, gaff. If you ain't willing to gaff, if you

2395
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 2: won't kill for me, you're off the show, Luke. This

2396
01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:19,760
Speaker 2: guy in the yellow jacket, he thought he was about it,

2397
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:23,519
Speaker 2: about it Chewbacca style. Sometimes you find out you're not.

2398
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:26,679
Speaker 1: Luke, Dude, these guys all think they're chewy. You ain't

2399
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:30,519
Speaker 1: fucking chewy. Bro Oh look at that. Oh god, nice one,

2400
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 1: nice nice one.

2401
01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 2: Lee. Look for for a second he was like, Oh,

2402
01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 2: I'm in this ship.

2403
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:42,000
Speaker 3: I'm ready baby.

2404
01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:42,560
Speaker 2: No.

2405
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:45,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, good good one, right brothers. Lee.

2406
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:48,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good ship right there.

2407
01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, that's the only ship I can find

2408
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:50,519
Speaker 2: this week.

2409
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:53,680
Speaker 1: Hope you hope that is amazing good ship on that one.

2410
01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:55,559
Speaker 1: All right? If you see time for odds and ends,

2411
01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:57,720
Speaker 1: what do you have for odds and or ends?

2412
01:51:57,960 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 2: Luke? Sometimes you just got to recognize good matchmaking when

2413
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 2: you see it. Our friends at BKFC have a fight

2414
01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:06,920
Speaker 2: coming up November twelfth in Miami. Get this. You ready

2415
01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:10,080
Speaker 2: for this Friend of the program or spirit animal the

2416
01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:14,880
Speaker 2: Program Britton Hart against Pearl Gonzales. Luke, who once had

2417
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:17,840
Speaker 2: an issue in Buffalo under the UFC banner but is

2418
01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 2: now a BKFC veteran.

2419
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 3: Luke, tell me, tell me you're not at least a

2420
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 3: little bit interested.

2421
01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:22,960
Speaker 2: This would be a good theater.

2422
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm not. BKFC. Is this weird thing where I can't

2423
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 1: tell I'd be lying if I told you I wasn't interested.

2424
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:33,200
Speaker 1: But I feel like I'd be equally lying if I

2425
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:36,240
Speaker 1: told you I was like geared up for it, you

2426
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:36,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

2427
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:38,720
Speaker 2: That's a good fight, though, that's actually a good fight.

2428
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:43,280
Speaker 1: I'll see Rachel forgive my ignorance. Has Pearl Guns always

2429
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:44,759
Speaker 1: been doing BKFC for a while.

2430
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:47,160
Speaker 2: A little bit? Yeah, yeah, she's been training with She's

2431
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:49,479
Speaker 2: actually been training with the Serranos sisters to prepare for it.

2432
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:54,000
Speaker 1: That's good. I mean, that's that's legit training. Yeah, I listen,

2433
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:55,679
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't want to be a hater. I'm

2434
01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:58,280
Speaker 1: definitely not down on it. But I'm not quite as

2435
01:52:58,360 --> 01:52:59,800
Speaker 1: high as you, I guess, is what I would say

2436
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 1: in general. M No, I'm sober today. So you showed

2437
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:11,760
Speaker 1: the weigh ins, but I wish we had some of

2438
01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:17,639
Speaker 1: the footage of the uh presser too, because uh Zepaida,

2439
01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:19,920
Speaker 1: as we showed here previously from Top Rank on ESPN

2440
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:23,559
Speaker 1: this Saturday, he was smiling, the Mexican guy holding his belts.

2441
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:27,000
Speaker 1: He was being a professional. And his opponent, how do

2442
01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:28,640
Speaker 1: you pronounce his first name? I can never is it

2443
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:35,759
Speaker 1: Joe Vargas who's from Puerto Rico. So you can imagine

2444
01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:37,880
Speaker 1: why they made this bout Mexo versus Puerto Rico, and

2445
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:40,320
Speaker 1: for a lot of other reasons. All fine, and you know, listen,

2446
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:43,160
Speaker 1: scuffles happened and blah blah blah blah blah. But Vargas

2447
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 1: made it a point to be as true or false PC.

2448
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:47,400
Speaker 1: He made it a point to be as loud and

2449
01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:50,679
Speaker 1: as confrontational as possible in the run up to this fight, which.

2450
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:52,840
Speaker 3: Is wild because the paid is like a gentleman of

2451
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 3: this sport.

2452
01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:56,599
Speaker 2: He's like this counterpuncher who'd been willed into that brawl

2453
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:58,880
Speaker 2: against Baranchick last year with all those knockouts, the fight

2454
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:00,880
Speaker 2: of the year, where it's just like holy shit, and

2455
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:03,320
Speaker 2: yet he's just still this com quiet guy. But Vargas

2456
01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:05,679
Speaker 2: was like, no, I will get you into a blood feud.

2457
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:08,960
Speaker 2: And Luke, we don't have the video apparently, but our

2458
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:11,560
Speaker 2: boys are paid to put it on him. Luke, that

2459
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:13,759
Speaker 2: was some five. It was like a six punch combo

2460
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:14,400
Speaker 2: in the corner.

2461
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:19,479
Speaker 1: Absolutely demolished him in the first round and including as

2462
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:21,720
Speaker 1: you're seeing here. We don't have the video, but it's

2463
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:23,599
Speaker 1: all over YouTube. I shared it on Twitter. You can

2464
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 1: see it wherever you want. Did I lose you, guys?

2465
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can hear me or not.

2466
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:29,639
Speaker 2: No, we got you, Luke, keep going.

2467
01:54:30,040 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 1: For some reason, my computer is acting up or our

2468
01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:35,040
Speaker 1: logs act like you can see me. And then in

2469
01:54:35,120 --> 01:54:37,480
Speaker 1: that corner just hit him as municated with a multi

2470
01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:40,360
Speaker 1: punch combination and absolutely sat him down. Let that be

2471
01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:42,680
Speaker 1: a lesson to folks like dude, if you're gonna do

2472
01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 1: the confrontational roup, that's cool. That's the fight game. It's

2473
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:48,240
Speaker 1: built on it. And if you win, you're a god.

2474
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:50,960
Speaker 1: But if you lose, and if you lose in the

2475
01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 1: first round via of just an absolute drubbing, what an

2476
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 1: l that is going to be? I want to check

2477
01:54:57,400 --> 01:55:00,840
Speaker 1: his mentions BC. You can well imagine they're a fucking

2478
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:03,440
Speaker 1: graveyard of people just absolutely hammering him.

2479
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:05,640
Speaker 2: Due Zepeida is not even a big puncher. So for

2480
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:08,480
Speaker 2: that guy to get that pissed off from being incited

2481
01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:10,000
Speaker 2: and to go in there and deliver it like that,

2482
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:12,240
Speaker 2: I mean that was vicious. But you know that. The

2483
01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:16,280
Speaker 2: ESPN boxing reporter in Mexico, Salvador Rodriguez, he reported Luke

2484
01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:20,280
Speaker 2: that just way Vargas's followers waited for Zapaida and his

2485
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 2: family to arrive at the hotel after the fight and

2486
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:25,480
Speaker 2: then attack them there. I don't have more specific details.

2487
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:28,480
Speaker 1: Yes, in fairness, we don't know if Vargas was in

2488
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:30,720
Speaker 1: any way involved in this. In fact, some of the

2489
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:33,000
Speaker 1: eyewitnesses say Vargas got to the hotel later and people

2490
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 1: had to inform him. So I don't want to implicate him,

2491
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:39,320
Speaker 1: but at least supporters of Vargas tried to rough up

2492
01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:42,640
Speaker 1: the family of Zepaida, which is fucking gross. But in

2493
01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:45,640
Speaker 1: any case, when it goes down the history books, Zepeada

2494
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:49,080
Speaker 1: only gets the win, but he taught Vargas very important lessons.

2495
01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:52,560
Speaker 2: Guy hopes Apeida gets a big fight, because you know

2496
01:55:52,680 --> 01:55:55,600
Speaker 2: he fought his first loss was against Jose Ramirez when

2497
01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:57,680
Speaker 2: when Ramerez had those belts, and I was the ringside

2498
01:55:57,720 --> 01:56:00,120
Speaker 2: for that randomly in Fresno, California, and I thought he

2499
01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:01,880
Speaker 2: fought his ass off that night. I thought Tepaida won

2500
01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:03,640
Speaker 2: that and he got it. He lost a close decision,

2501
01:56:04,160 --> 01:56:05,920
Speaker 2: and you know, then he's kind of lingering, trying to

2502
01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:08,040
Speaker 2: make a name for himself. Then he's in that crazy

2503
01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 2: brawl with Branchick and he survives it, and he's got

2504
01:56:10,200 --> 01:56:14,080
Speaker 2: this new attitude as almost a puncher. Now I'm interested

2505
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:15,959
Speaker 2: in him getting a big fight, a big title opportunity.

2506
01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 2: I think he's always he's become somebody to watch, So

2507
01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 2: look real quick. Bob Aaron made a statement because we

2508
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:23,280
Speaker 2: I interviewed you Churs Stevenson last week and catch at

2509
01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:25,880
Speaker 2: YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat, and he wants that

2510
01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 2: unification with Oscar Valdez. But he also accused Top Rank

2511
01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:31,800
Speaker 2: of kind of separating it and putting it out in

2512
01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:34,000
Speaker 2: the distance. Bob a Baron went public and said, this

2513
01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:36,400
Speaker 2: is his thoughts for the one hundred and thirty pound

2514
01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:42,160
Speaker 2: division A final four of Shaker Stevenson against Miguel Burchell,

2515
01:56:42,240 --> 01:56:44,240
Speaker 2: who got knocked out by Valdez but was the long

2516
01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 2: rating champion. And on the other side of the bracket

2517
01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 2: Oscar Valdez against Emmanuel Navarette.

2518
01:56:52,280 --> 01:56:56,000
Speaker 1: Dude, Navarette as a beast, and then the winners face

2519
01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:56,440
Speaker 1: each other.

2520
01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:58,440
Speaker 3: Luke, that could be that could be some good ship

2521
01:56:58,520 --> 01:56:58,800
Speaker 3: right there.

2522
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:00,920
Speaker 1: Granted the movies it's hard to just I mean, it

2523
01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:04,120
Speaker 1: will never happen because it's boxing, but that would be tremendous,

2524
01:57:04,320 --> 01:57:05,320
Speaker 1: absolutely tremendous.

2525
01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:08,440
Speaker 2: All four can fight on the on ESPN under the

2526
01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:11,280
Speaker 2: top rank. Uh, you know, Banner, it'd be good. It'd

2527
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:14,040
Speaker 2: be an interesting, interesting thing. But yeah, good good ship.

2528
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:16,840
Speaker 2: What a weekend of fights, Luke, and only you know,

2529
01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 2: not only was the weekend funk thanks in a large

2530
01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 2: part of the UFC, but also showtime and Boots Ennis

2531
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 2: and all that, but to spin it now into Canelo

2532
01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:29,680
Speaker 2: and UFC at MSG, what a time? What? What a time? Luke?

2533
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:30,440
Speaker 2: What a time?

2534
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:32,640
Speaker 1: You're already there. I will join you in a matter

2535
01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:35,320
Speaker 1: of days. I want to remind everybody to like the

2536
01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:37,960
Speaker 1: video hit subscribe for the fights we didn't get to,

2537
01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:41,240
Speaker 1: and there are many of them. MK. Extra Credit is

2538
01:57:41,320 --> 01:57:42,880
Speaker 1: going to be the place where we're going to get

2539
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:43,520
Speaker 1: to some of that stuff.

2540
01:57:44,240 --> 01:57:44,920
Speaker 2: Banger today.

2541
01:57:45,320 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited about it because normally I'm sort of,

2542
01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, weeding through not the most exciting fights. But

2543
01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:51,080
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of good stuff, and I know I

2544
01:57:51,160 --> 01:57:53,120
Speaker 1: got people tweeting me. What about the ref in the

2545
01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:56,680
Speaker 1: song Deny fight, We'll talk about that. What about on CALIV,

2546
01:57:56,760 --> 01:58:00,520
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. What about Islam, Markatschev, We'll talk it.

2547
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:01,800
Speaker 1: So we got a lot of good stuff to get to,

2548
01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:04,560
Speaker 1: So I'm going anywhere for that morning. Commat at gmail

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Speaker 1: dot com is gonna be the place to go. For

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Speaker 1: your emails and everything else, for dead wrongs for Wednesday's

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Speaker 2: Look, you're really gonna go this whole show and not

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Speaker 2: bring up Jake Paul Tommy Fury on Showtime pay per View,

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Speaker 2: December eighteenth, from Tampa, Florida.

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Speaker 1: I did forget about it, if I can be honest

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Speaker 1: about it. But yeah, what do you want to say

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Speaker 1: about it?

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Speaker 2: It's happening, it is.

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Speaker 1: I tend to think that Jake's gonna win, but I

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Speaker 1: don't know. What do you think? What's your early view?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Dude, tell me. Fury looked like crap

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Speaker 2: against that MMA fighter on the on the undercard last time.

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Speaker 2: Must be fair.

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Speaker 3: He did not look good. It really did not look good.

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Speaker 1: He is big and strong, so it's like, well, we'll see. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: so there is that coming up as well. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about that whenever we are gonna get around to it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know who does that shit.

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Speaker 2: But if you like watching sports and who doesn't you

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Speaker 2: Mma box. There are a lot of fun things to

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Speaker 1: Please let me let me ask you quickly. Being from Connecticut.

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Speaker 1: For folks who mean to know this is how other

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Speaker 1: Connecticut's Connecticut Heights Connectic Canadians. I don't know what the

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Speaker 1: world would be, but this is how it's explained to me.

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Speaker 1: The state is split, so half of the state all

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Speaker 1: root for Boston teams and the other half of the

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Speaker 1: state all root for New York teams. When it comes

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Speaker 1: to NBA teams, Are you a Knicks or a Celtics guy?

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Speaker 2: Celtics Celtics fans Celtics Okay, yes, but I wasn't. But

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Speaker 2: I was a New York Mets baseball fan, so I'm

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Speaker 2: kind of perfect Connecticut, right, And I also I grew

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Speaker 2: up sort of near that dividing line between where it's

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Speaker 2: you know, New York or Boston territory in Connecticut. Souh yeah, Luke,

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Speaker 2: there you go.

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Speaker 1: All right. Well, obviously, as you mentioned, NBA is in

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Speaker 1: full swinging. Canelo plant is this weekend. UFC two sixty

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Speaker 2: Offered that since Connecticut just became legalized. I did a little,

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Speaker 2: go in those prop bets and having some fun with it.

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Speaker 3: Luke, it's it's a it's a very good app Okay.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't recommend that.

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Speaker 1: That is it? BC? What is your plan for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the day, good sir? You got anything going on?

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Speaker 2: I will be switching hotel rooms to our final destination, Luke,

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Speaker 2: and to a to a different hotel on the strip,

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Speaker 2: and uh, you know, I'll be I'll be preparing some

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Speaker 2: features that you can read this week on CBS sports

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Speaker 2: dot com Slash Boxing Ahead of this Canelo Ovarus Caleb

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Speaker 2: Plant fight, lots to write about, lot to talk about, Luke.

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Speaker 2: The covers don't stop here just on Morning Combat. As

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Speaker 2: if you follow Showtime Sports page on YouTube. On the

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Speaker 2: digital platforms, you can see me again Luke hosting Tuesday's

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Speaker 2: grand arrival, be part of the coverage for Wednesday's press

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Speaker 2: conference as well as will use so a lot of

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Speaker 2: great stuff coming through. Check out our video there on

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Speaker 2: YouTube dot com, slash Morning Combat, our little bit of

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Speaker 2: rooftop diaries with our friend Chuck Mindenhall, the pre game preview.

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Speaker 2: Getting you fired up for UFC two sixty eight like

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Speaker 2: men do, and be on the lookout for Canelo Alvarez

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Speaker 2: resume review dropping in soon soon, Luke soon, I think.

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Speaker 1: Four pm Eastern this today, four pm, about three hours.

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Speaker 1: Be on the lookout for and look we got.

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Speaker 2: We got, we got video footage from the archives. We

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Speaker 2: got a lot of fun breakdown. If you feel like

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Speaker 2: you've seen Canelo here and there, but maybe don't know

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Speaker 2: the full journey of how we got to be number one, Luke,

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Speaker 2: it's a fun ride to get there.

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Speaker 1: No doubt about it, all right. So for Brian Campbell,

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Speaker 1: Malka Showtime and CBS Sports. We thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for watching. We have just a metric ton of content

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Speaker 1: headed your way this weekend. I will join Bri on

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Speaker 1: the ground in Las Vegas on Wednesday morning, and until then,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for watching. May all of your

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Speaker 1: gains be loyal.