1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: So we've got some breaking news and it involves Ukraine, Russia, Iran, 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: and the United States of America, and it could have 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: enormous consequences, not just for Europe, but for every American 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: with troops serving in the Middle East. The Ukrainian President 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: Zolenski says he's bringing what he described as evidence directly 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: to the White House alleging that Russia has actually been 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: helping Iran target American military bases across the Middle East. 8 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: This according to Zolensky, Ukrainian intelligence has tracked Russian satellite 9 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: surveillance of Gulf States and US military facilities, and says 10 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: those images were later used by Iran before and after 11 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: attacks on American positions. Some of those attacks have killed 12 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: American troops. Here's more on this from Fox News Channel. 13 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: Ukrainian leader of Loda Missolensky says he is bringing evidence 14 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: to the White House tomorrow that Russia is assisting Iran 15 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: in targeting US bases in. 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: The Middle East. 17 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: Your Chief National Security correspondent, Jennifer Griffin. 18 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 4: I'll ask a quote about it. 19 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 5: We'll find out President Trump's response to Ukraine's Volodimir Zelenski's 20 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 5: claim that Russia is helping Iran. 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 4: Hasn't had much impact because we're noting the hell out 22 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 4: of him. 23 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 5: Zelensky says he will share evidence with President Trump. Russia 24 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 5: is providing Iran satellite imagery of US bases in the 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 5: Middle East, helping Iran target US troops. Zelenski will be 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 5: in Washington Tuesday to attend Senator Lindsey Graham's funeral. Ukraine 27 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 5: says it struck in Iranian ship in the Caspian Sea 28 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 5: that was carrying military cargo, highlighting the growing Russia Iran 29 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 5: partnership and eliciting anger from Iran's foreign minister quote, Zelensky 30 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 5: has attacked an Iranian commercial vessel, killing a sailor, a 31 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 5: blatant un charter violation. What the freeloader in Kiev did 32 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 5: cannot go unanswered. Iran has provided Russia with thousands of 33 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 5: one way Shahid attacks drones since the start of the war, 34 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 5: and now there are new signs the conflicts in Europe 35 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 5: and the Middle East maybe converging and expanding. 36 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: North Korea will send to Russia. So ti thousand of 37 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 3: soldiers Iranians will send missiles to Russia. Then what is 38 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: really a big problem China began to work with Russian 39 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: and they work on satellites and on technologies and etc. 40 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 3: To be more how to say it precise at taking. 41 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 5: Us earlier, today's smoke was seen billowing out of Saudi 42 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 5: Aramco oil facilities at sites across Saudi Arabia after being 43 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 5: hit by projectiles as part of a growing proxy war 44 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 5: with Iran. 45 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 2: For the first time, Saudi Arabia's Defense ministry is calling 46 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 2: out Iraq for allowing Iranian back militias to fire drones 47 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: and missiles from Iraq at targets in Saudi Arabia and 48 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: elsewhere in the Gulf. Today, a spokesman for the Iraqi 49 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 2: Prime Minister said Iraq will not allow it's territory to 50 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: be used to launch attacks against neighboring countries. 51 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: But they already have read now. The president was also 52 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: asked on Air Force one about this, and here's more 53 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: of what the president had to say. 54 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 4: I rated Lensky says. 55 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 6: Celenski says that Russia is giving him on on satellite 56 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 6: imagery of usb is in the Gulf help them target. 57 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: What do you know about that? 58 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 4: Well, we'll find out. If this I'll ask you booting 59 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: about it, We'll find out hasn't had much impact because 60 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 4: we've knocked the hell out of it. When you think 61 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 4: if that's the case, Look, you know they gave Venezuela 62 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 4: a lot of equipment. Venezuela had all Russian equipment. How 63 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 4: did that work out? Not too good? So they may 64 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 4: be giving. But if they are, it hasn't worked out 65 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: because they have no army, they have no air force, 66 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 4: they have no navy, they have no nothing. So it 67 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 4: hasn't worked out well. I don't think. I don't think 68 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: they've been doing it, certainly not at a high level, 69 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 4: and if they have, it has been very unimpactful. 70 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: Now, for years, Americans have viewed the war in Ukraine 71 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: as largely separate from America's military challenges in the Middle East, 72 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: But if these allegations are ultimately substantiated, this would represent 73 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: a significant escalation. Now, Zolensky is arguing that these conflicts 74 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: are no longer separate. They are becoming one interconnected battlefield. 75 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: According to the Ukrainian president, this isn't simply Russia's selling 76 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: Iran weapons or drones. He's alleging that Russia is providing 77 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: the intelligence and support needed by collecting satellite imagery of 78 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: US military installations and that there is a correlation between 79 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: the surveillance and then the Iranian strikes. Now, I also 80 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: want to be clear, this isn't the first time concerns 81 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: about Russian assistance to Iran have surfaced. Earlier this year, 82 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: multiple US officials told CBS News that Russia had been 83 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: providing intelligence regarding US military positions in the Middle East 84 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: to Iran during the conflict. Other reporting has also described 85 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:10,679 Speaker 1: US intelligence agencies examining whether Russian assistants may have played 86 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: a role in improving Iran's ability to strike the American 87 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: targets that they were going after. And then that brings 88 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: us to the larger strategic picture here. If you look 89 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: at all of this, what we're now seeing is there 90 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: is clearly a new alliance that is taking place. There's 91 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: a new you could even call it acxis of evil. 92 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: You have Russia, you have Iran, and you have North Korea. 93 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: And then you can add in a bigger player than 94 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: all three of those combined, China, because increasingly China is 95 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: providing diplomatic and economic backing for almost all of the 96 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: individuals that I just mentioned. So this is like a 97 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,559 Speaker 1: axis of evil superpower. You would have Russia, Iran, North Korea, 98 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: and China all working together to undermine and kill American 99 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: soldiers in the Middle East, and hopefully they hope that 100 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: America will at some point just disappear from the Middle 101 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,119 Speaker 1: East and they can say we want it now. These 102 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: countries they don't have to sign a formal military alliance 103 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: to coordinate their actions. In fact, they probably would never 104 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: do that because then they have plausible deniability. If they 105 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: share intelligence, they share technology, if they share military equipment, 106 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: if they share the same strategic objectives, they're already acting 107 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: in ways that directly affect our national security. And that's 108 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: part of what Zelenski is coming to the US to say, 109 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: because what Zelensky's case is, Hey, you're now at war 110 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: with Russia, whether you want to admit or not, and China, 111 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: whether you want admit it or not, and Iran, whether 112 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: you want to admit it or not. Right even when 113 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: there's a quote ceasefire. And his message to Washington is 114 00:06:54,920 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: basically this, don't think of Ukraine as a regional conflicting more, 115 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: think of it as one in a broader contest involving 116 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: America's principal adversaries. Now, why would he do this, it's 117 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: clear because he wants to draw us more into the 118 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: conflict if he believes that America being involved in the 119 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: conflict would help him help his country more than anybody else. 120 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: From Kief's perspective, if Russia is willing to help a 121 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: Ran target American forces today, then what does that say 122 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: about where this conflict is heading tomorrow? In other words, America, 123 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: you better get involved now. 124 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 6: Now. 125 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: Let me also say it's very much worth remembering. Now, 126 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: let me also say this, and this is important. We 127 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: have seen flash points like this before. I don't think 128 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: the President's going to walk out this meeting and immediately 129 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: say all right, here we go Russia. Game on in 130 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: the way that Zelensky is probably hoping. The United States 131 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: has thousands of troops stations throughout the Middle East. Those 132 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: service members, by the way, there aren't political talking points. 133 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: That's what the President does care about. And when Americans 134 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: are being killed because there's other countries like Russia China 135 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: helping target them, then this is in fact an American 136 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: issue because these service members, they're wearing the American uniform. 137 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: And if any foreign government knowingly helped another country improve 138 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: its ability to attack and kill American forces. Well, then 139 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,679 Speaker 1: how would you not look at this at a bare 140 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: minimum as an extraordinarily serious national security issue and matter? 141 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: So what happens now? Well, the first question is whether 142 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: US intelligence reaches the same conclusion as Ukraine. By the way, 143 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: Ukraine has a objective here that well could easily be 144 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: to juice the Intel to help them out, because they 145 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: want America more involved. So we have to be cautious. 146 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: In other words, trust but verify. And the second issue 147 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: is whether the White House believes the evidence that supports 148 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: Elensky's claims is worth US actually acting on. There's also 149 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: the most consequential question, and that's this, how is Donald 150 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: Trump going to respond? If American intelligence determines that Russia 151 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: did provide meaningful assistance to Iran? Does that change the 152 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: US policy towards Moscow with major sanctions? Does it effect 153 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: ongoing diplomatic efforts? Does it lead to additional sanctions on 154 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: top of the fact that we may actually get involved 155 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: in the war and help Ukraine more than we already have. 156 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: These are all the questions that shape American foreign policy 157 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: in the months to come. And this story also highlights 158 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: something we've been watching develop for quite some time, the 159 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: world's major conflicts are increasingly interconnected and overlapping. The same 160 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: Iranian drones that Russia has used in Ukraine have now 161 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: become central to fighting in the Middle East. Military technologies 162 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: developed on the battlefield are quickly showing up on another battlefield. 163 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: Intelligence collect in one region is now used in another. 164 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: The lines of this conflict are becoming much harder to draw. 165 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: And that's exactly why Zelensky wants this meeting with the 166 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: White House. He's trying to convince the United States of 167 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: America that whatever's happening in Ukraine cannot be viewed as 168 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: an isolated issue anymore. It must be looked at as 169 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: a threat to the United States. Now, Donald Trump has 170 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: a side how he responds to all of that, and 171 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: we'll have it for you here. I can promise you 172 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: that the man who spent years trying to prosecute Donald 173 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: Trump is now the subject of a criminal referral himself. 174 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: That's right. The House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan has 175 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: formally referred former Special Counsel Jack Smith to the Department 176 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: of Justice for possible prosecution, alleging that Smith made false 177 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: statements to Congress under oath during his testimony before the 178 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: House Judiciary Committee. Now, specifically the referral we're being told 179 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: centners on whether Smith in fact misled lawmakers when discussing 180 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: what investigative records his office obtained during that Trump witch 181 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: hunt investigation. And that's where the second bombshell comes into 182 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: the story. We now are being told because of recently 183 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: released documents from Senate investigators, they're now alleging that not 184 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: only was Jack Smith spying on members of Congress, but 185 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: he was reading their text messages. The investigative team has 186 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: now obtained text message communications, they say, involving forty four 187 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: members of Congress. Now during its investigation to President Trump, 188 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: they decided to go phishing, and they wanted to read 189 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: the messages of sitting members of Congress. Now, those records 190 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: were reportedly obtained through legal process directed at the National Archives, 191 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: rather than directly from the lawmakers' phones, which is even 192 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: more shocking. Now think about what this actually means with 193 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: this revelation. For years, Americans were told that these investigations 194 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: were quote narrowly focused and carefully controlled and insulated completely 195 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: from politics. But now Congress is looking at the story 196 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: differently and asking a simple question Weather investigators quietly swept 197 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: up these communications that were involving more than forty four 198 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: sitting members of the legislative branch, while also investigating the 199 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: leading political opponent of their administration, which was Donald J. Trump. 200 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: That is a shocking allegation, something that would normally happen 201 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: in a communist country, or a socialist country, or a 202 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: Marxist country, a dictator would do something like this. Instead, 203 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: this was the weaponization of the United States government, the 204 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: deep state at the highest levels and the FBI. Now 205 00:12:55,240 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: these are yes, not only extraordinary allegations, but according to 206 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: Chairman Jordan, the newly released documents appear inconsistent with Jack 207 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: Smith's congressional testimony, which is why these two stories now 208 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: come together. Smith's legal team strongly disputes the characterization, arguing 209 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: quote he answered questions truthfully about toll records and was 210 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: not denying that other records obtained through separate legal authorities existed. 211 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: In other words, are saying we're going to use the 212 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: fine print here now. Democrats on the committee have also 213 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: argued that the referral quote mischaracterizes Smith's testimony. The Justice 214 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: Department is not required to act on a congressional criminal 215 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: referral to be clear, but regardless of where someone lands politically, 216 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: the larger issue is this, if federal prosecutors can obtain 217 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: communications involving not one, not two, not ten, not twenty, 218 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: but involving forty four members of Congress that we know 219 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: of during an investigation of a presidentidential candidate who was again, 220 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: by the way, a former president of the United States 221 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: of America, that Americans deserve transparency completely about how that 222 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: even happened. And then the other question is what legal 223 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: authority was used, were there any safeguards in place at all? 224 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: And was Congress itself accurately informed about what happened afterwards 225 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: or where they lied to Now this really isn't just 226 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: about Jack Smith anymore. It's actually about truth and the 227 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: justice system as a whole. It's about whether investigators played 228 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: by the same rule as they expected everyone else to follow, 229 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: or go to jail if you didn't. And it's also 230 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: about political accountability. If you weaponize the American government to 231 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: go after your political opponent and then we find out 232 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: about it, is there any recourse or consequence? Now, for 233 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: years we've been watching prosecutors pursue Donald Trump with unpressed aggressiveness. 234 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: Now the same House committee that investigated those actions is 235 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: asking whether the Special Council himself may have crossed multiple 236 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: legal lines by allegedly giving misleading testimony to Congress to 237 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: cover up their actions, which could actually be criminal. Now 238 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: there's two things here that you also need to take 239 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: into consideration. Number One, Politically, this is a remarkable reversal 240 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: from where we were. And the second part of this 241 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: is the media. The media is completely silent on what 242 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now. Ask yourself the question why prosecutors, 243 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: by the way, who once stood at the center of 244 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: the biggest legal cases against Donald Trump, they're now having 245 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: to face these allegations, face the music, face the fact 246 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: that their own testimony deserves criminal scrutiny. And Congress is 247 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: correct that investigators secretly obtained text messages involving forty four 248 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: members of Congress while the public was told a very 249 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: different story. Then this story is going to be about 250 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,239 Speaker 1: far more than just one man, and that man obviously 251 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: being the man in charge, Jack Smith. It's also far 252 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: bigger than the one story that involves Donald Trump, which 253 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: brings us to where we are. Now. This is a 254 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: new story, and I think It's a story that's going 255 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: to be whether Americans can have any confidence at all 256 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: that when democrats are in charge that they're actually playing 257 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: by the rules, they're playing by the rule of the law. 258 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: Or is this now what happens when democrats get elected, 259 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: They do whatever they want to do, They throw out 260 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: the legal standards, and then they just lie to Congress 261 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: while doing it. This is about American confidence that justice 262 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: is actually administered fairly or transparently or equally regardless of 263 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: whose name is in the case. Or do we live 264 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: in a country where democrats and the solest Marxist and 265 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: Communists hiding in our government can weaponize our government to 266 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: put their political adversaries in prison. Now, this is exactly 267 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: what actually happens in places like Russia. Vladimir Putin for 268 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: decades has either oft or arrested, or bankrupt or destroyed 269 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: his political opponents. Many of them are just straight up killed. 270 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: We see this happen in Latin America. We see this 271 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: happen all over the world in our history books. Where 272 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: new leadership comes in, they take ultimate power over the people. 273 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: They control every aspect of the government, and the first 274 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: thing they do is they go after their political opponents 275 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: and throw them in jail so they're no longer a 276 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: threat to them. That is what the Democrats did with 277 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And apparently it wasn't just Democrats in Congress, 278 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: it was also the deep state as well. Now this 279 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: is going to move I have a feeling pretty quickly 280 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: we're going to find out a lot more. But one 281 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: thing is for sure. Forty four different members of Congress 282 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: were spied on by the Special Council, the FBI, and 283 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: the administration that was in charge at the time, the 284 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: Democratic Party. If you're a member of Congress right now 285 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: and you now have just found out that you are 286 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: one of the forty four respied on, I have a 287 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: feeling you've got a lot of questions that you want answered, 288 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: and I expect you're going to see a lot of 289 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: this exploding on Capitol Hill. You've heard me talk a 290 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: lot lately about what has happened post Roe v. Wade 291 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: being overturned, and if you don't know what's happening, well, 292 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: this is exactly why I want to talk about in 293 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: hit pause on the breaking political news of the day, 294 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: to have a conversation about what happened after Roe v. Wade. 295 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: People perceive they thought that abortion was going to drastically 296 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: be reduced, but now it's gone back to the States, 297 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: and that is not the case. I want to have 298 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: on the CEO of Americans United for Life, John Maize, 299 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: who's with us right now, and John there. It was 300 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: so much celebration after Roe v. Wade and it went 301 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: back to the States, but then there was a new 302 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: part of the abortion industry that absolutely exploded, and I 303 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: want people to understand what's happening right now. 304 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, Ben, thanks for having me on the show. And 305 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 6: you know, as much as I hate saying this, I 306 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 6: feel like the other side was well prepared and they 307 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 6: were well prepared to move abortion from the abortion clinic 308 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 6: to women's homes, and now we're seeing not only an 309 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 6: increase in abortion, but we're seeing women who are now 310 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 6: isolated and alone at home, performing their own abortions in 311 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 6: their own bathrooms, much to the unsafe measures that really 312 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 6: are keeping women danged. I mean, it's such a dangerous 313 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 6: thing to put these drugs in women's drug cabinets with 314 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 6: no medical oversight, and that's exactly what's happening. Not only that, 315 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 6: but you now have to doctors who are shielded by 316 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 6: pro abortion states to prescribe chemical abortion into pro life 317 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 6: states where the citizens have voted to honor the human 318 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 6: dignity of life. They're mailing these drugs into states without 319 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 6: a single visit or even talking to a doctor. In fact, Ben, 320 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 6: you and I could go online right now and in 321 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 6: about five minutes we could be prescribed MIF for pristom 322 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 6: as men. Wow, because they don't care and they want 323 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 6: they want to write as many scripts as they can 324 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 6: to make as much money as they can. That's what 325 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 6: this has always always been about, is making money. 326 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 1: You talk about the money aspect of this, and it 327 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: did explode, and I want you to understand how dangerous 328 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: these prescription drugs are and they can be to women. 329 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: And again it's now just a okay, the ree VIEWA 330 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: was overturned. It went back to the states, But the 331 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: States weren't ready to protect women in this scenario, while 332 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: those making money off that absolutely were. 333 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure. I mean you look at ther right 334 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 6: now and the FDA is doing their own internal analysis 335 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 6: right now. But the political decisions that were made by 336 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 6: the Biden and Obama administrations that removed safeguards that kept 337 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 6: women safe from a drug that was brought to market 338 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 6: with a black box warning. Those all have been removed 339 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 6: and now the data that we have suggests that over 340 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 6: ten percent of women that take this medication will show 341 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 6: up to an emergency room with a severe complication, and 342 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 6: that could be hemorrhaging. It could be a woman that 343 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 6: has an atomic pregnancy, which is a contraindication of this medication. 344 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 6: She could die. And then if you drill down into 345 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 6: specific numbers, we've kind of estimated that that's three hundred 346 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 6: women a day in this country who are showing up 347 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 6: to emergency rooms with severe complications from chemical abortion because 348 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 6: there's no medical oversight whatsoever. And then you find these 349 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 6: poor women that are being drugged by men, by boyfriends 350 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 6: because again, men can get this medication. So there's several 351 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 6: cases right now of men that have drugged women and 352 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 6: forced them to abort their babies. We have no idea 353 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 6: what's going what's going on in the home bathroom of 354 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 6: these women. It's a travesty, truly. 355 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: Well, when you talk about the abuse aspect of this, 356 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: this is one of the things that really goes back 357 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: to it's not care. It could be even covering up 358 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: crimes have been committed sexual crimes have been committed because 359 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: now it's so easy, as you described it, to get 360 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: these powerful drugs that also can have serious side effects 361 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: as well. Talk about that. 362 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's always been an issue, right. Coersion 363 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 6: has always been an issue in this debate. 364 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 5: And now you know. 365 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 6: Before when a woman presented for an abortion, she at 366 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 6: least had an encounter with a doctor. And now, granted, 367 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 6: an abortionist might not be that empathetic, but by law 368 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 6: they're required to report suspicion of abuse and coercion. There's 369 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 6: none of that now. You know, a woman could could 370 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 6: literally not only be drug but she could have a 371 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 6: boyfriend and said you will take this or I'm going 372 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 6: to do whatever to you. You know, not to mention 373 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 6: all of the women who face the unbelievable consequence of 374 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 6: I'm not going to support you at all if you 375 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 6: have this child. That puts women in a very difficult position. 376 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 6: And we don't know any of that now because all 377 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 6: of these abortions are happening at home, away from the 378 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 6: public's purview. And you know, we actually just performed a 379 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 6: you gov poll and not only does the general public 380 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 6: strongly support safety measures, so eighty six percent of believe 381 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 6: that patients should receive informed consent and that they should 382 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 6: that sixty eight percent say that safety should be really 383 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 6: more important than the ease of access of this medication. 384 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 6: So we believe that the general public, when they know 385 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 6: about this medication, believe that it's dangerous and believe that 386 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 6: women should be safe. And that's what we really should 387 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 6: be emphasizing here is that the other side could care 388 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 6: less about the safety of women, could care less about 389 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 6: the humanity of the preborn child. They just want to 390 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 6: make money off the backs of poor and unfortunate women. 391 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: What you guys do an incredible job of and you 392 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: can find out more at aul dot org is And 393 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: again my guest to me as the CEO of Americans 394 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: United for Life is putting women in children first in 395 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: a way that says we're going to stand up for you, 396 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: We're going to be your advocates, We're going to give 397 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: you the protections that you need. And this is also 398 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: what you guys do at American Juni for Life. You 399 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: help states write laws to protect unborn children and the 400 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: women that have been abused so much by the radical 401 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: left in this industry that also, as you mentioned, make 402 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: a ton of money off of abortions. 403 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 6: One hundred percent then, and I mean, if you look 404 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 6: at AUL, we've been around since before Row. We were 405 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 6: really the original pro life organization. Our laws have been 406 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 6: passed over four hundred times in the state. Our work 407 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 6: has been cited in every single Supreme Court case relevant 408 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 6: to the abortion issue for the last fifty years. We 409 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 6: focus on law and policy at the state and federal level. Federally, 410 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 6: of course, right now, we're working on defunding Planned Parenthood, 411 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 6: which is an absolutely evil organization that received eight hundred 412 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 6: and fifty million dollars of taxpayer funding, which equates to three, 413 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 6: like two or three million dollars a day that the 414 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 6: government supports Planned Parenthood, which is an evil organization that 415 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 6: puts abortion before any other sort of care. We're also 416 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 6: working state policy. We work enforcement, so our team actually 417 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 6: goes out and builds investigations against abortionists that are harming women. 418 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 6: We've shut down abortionists in several states. We've had licenses removed, 419 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 6: We've prevented abortion practices from opening. Our work is central 420 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 6: to advancing the supply side of abortion, while we work 421 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 6: on the demand side and culture, and then on the 422 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 6: demand side. We've really been working a lot with pregnancy centers. 423 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 6: We just hosted about one hundred pregnancy centers into Washington, 424 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 6: d c. For an advocacy day on the Hill. Look, 425 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 6: pregnancy centers have eighty percent popularity amongst the general public. 426 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 6: There's a reason why pro abortion forces attack them because 427 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 6: that is the next generation of how we care for 428 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 6: women before and after birth. And the last thing that 429 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 6: we do we are laser focused on training the next 430 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 6: generation of pro life leaders in this country is we 431 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 6: make the move to a culture that ultimately honors the 432 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 6: human dignity of all lives. 433 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is really important work. And you guys are 434 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: also helping states with the laws that they need. That's 435 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: something else that is so important. So that each state 436 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: has different laws, and that's where you guys write model 437 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: legislation to help states understand how to protect the rights 438 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: of unborn children as well. 439 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 6: That's right, and again, our laws have been passed over 440 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 6: four hundred times in the states across the country. We 441 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 6: put a score card out every year evaluating the pro 442 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 6: life culture in each state in this country, and I 443 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 6: got to give kudos to Arkansas. They've won the last 444 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 6: several years. Governor Hakabee has been an absolute stallwart for 445 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 6: Life in the state of our Kansas, but there are 446 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 6: several states that have used our legislation. One of our 447 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 6: newer pieces of legislation that I love is a tax 448 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 6: credit for pregnancy centers. We've seen state level tax credits 449 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 6: passed in several states that help elevate the role and 450 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,479 Speaker 6: funding availability for pregnancy centers. This is exciting stuff. I 451 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 6: feel like, despite what people might hear in the media, 452 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 6: we are overwhelmed with the sense of optimism in this 453 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 6: country that we're moving the needle in the right direction 454 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 6: right now. 455 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: For a lot of people that are listening right now, 456 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: you may hear what Americans United for Life is doing. 457 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: You may say, like I did, I want to get involved. 458 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: That's part of the reason why I want to have 459 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,239 Speaker 1: you on John. You guys have a new campaign and 460 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: I would love for the listeners right now to get involved. 461 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: It is y'all's Life Givers. Explain what that is, what 462 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: it means, and then how you can get involved in it. 463 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, Life Givers is is our monthly giving category. 464 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 6: It's individuals that have said, you know what, I'm going 465 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 6: to put my foot down. I am going to support 466 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 6: this movement regardless of what's happening in culture. Because I 467 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 6: believe in the sanctity of life. This allows us to 468 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 6: continue fighting for the protection of women from these dangerous 469 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 6: chemical awoardive drugs and holding the accountable the industry this 470 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 6: intent on putting women in harm's way. Your support through 471 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 6: Lifegivers makes a vital legal, policy and enforcement difference in 472 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 6: this country. We hold abortion providers accountable and we advance 473 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 6: the pro life cause across the country. 474 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: How do people get involved? Where can they go? 475 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, Ben, So I'm going to ask y'all please go 476 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 6: to aul dot org. That's au l dot org backslash 477 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 6: Life Givers l I F E g I v e 478 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 6: r s and give to support the amazing work that 479 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 6: this organization is doing to bring a culture that honors 480 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 6: the human dignity of all lives. 481 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: Again that website. Write it down, Get involved and make 482 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: a big difference. You can join the fight now and 483 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: protect the lives of women and unborn babies. Au dot 484 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: org slash Lifegivers. That's a u L dot org slash 485 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: Life Givers and you can find out more online at 486 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: aul dot org. John, I appreciate your time. 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