1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: It's that time time time, time, Luck and load. The 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Michael Varie Show is on the air. 3 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: A sign Blok chop, a media ron gile brother blood trop. 4 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: A media rule again, glood truck, a media right Oma 5 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: right again. Hulk Hogan has done. 6 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: You gotta say, it's an interesting life. To remain relevant 7 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: in what I would call the noisy American pop culture 8 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: environment is a hard thing to do, and Hulk Hogan. 9 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: Did that for decades. 10 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: The ups, the damns, there's a pretty good chance you 11 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: remember some of the downs. I'll be out at dinner 12 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: in some public figure's name will come up, and I 13 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: say public figure, I don't just mean elected officials, could 14 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: be a movie star, an athlete, whatever. And I'm always amazed, 15 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: how with which facility, with what comfort with what, Not 16 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: even thinking about it, someone will say of a certain problem, 17 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: hey got arrested her, Oh he got in trouble, or 18 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: he got exposed, or he had a video, yeah I 19 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: remember he got the and they will they would. 20 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: Just dismiss that person as if. 21 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: As if it was a hamburger they were eating, and 22 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: they'd put you know, the restaurant had put pickles when 23 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 2: they weren't supposed to just throw it on the floor. 24 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: And I realized I'm not n because I'm sure I've 25 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: done it a million times myself. I realize that when 26 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: you become a public figure, you're no longer a human being. 27 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: You're a product. 28 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: And when you become a product, then just like those 29 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: obnoxious wine tasting people, they can, you know, take a 30 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: sip and after they've sniffed it and oh, I can't 31 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: stand that. Sorry if I've triggered your mesophonia. But and 32 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: they'll go no, no, to fruity, to too fruit forward, 33 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: not a good nose, bad bouquet, not enough tannings this one, 34 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 2: and and people will discuss a person's career. I'll prove 35 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: my point. David Hasselhoff, free associate for me. David Hasselhoff. 36 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: Now you may say, oh, I was eating that burner 37 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: off the floor, run of the toilet. 38 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: It was. 39 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 2: It was, indeed, And the only reason you know that 40 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: is his bratty little daughter filmed it and posted it. 41 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: I would make sure she never saw another penny for 42 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: me if that was my kid, My goodness alive, what 43 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: a brat she was. And her answer was I was 44 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: just trying to help him because he had a problem. 45 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 2: That's not how you help somebody. Or you may think, oh, yeah, 46 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: I remember he is all was that stupid Germany thing 47 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: he was recording songs in Germany? Okay, The reality is 48 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: David Hasselhoff had, and I know, David Hasselhoff apologies by 49 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: all measures, a very successful career. There was a period 50 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: of time where David Hasselhoff was probably one of the 51 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: ten most identifiable Americans, and then when his relevance dropped, 52 00:03:54,880 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: he went to Germany where he had very quirky popularity 53 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: in Germany as a singer, and we didn't really know 54 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: where to process that. I kind of put it in 55 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: the same category if I were to say, hey, did 56 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: you ever watch. 57 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: Chips, because I did? 58 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: Remember Chips California Highway Patrol duom dum, dunk dum. Every 59 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 2: dude my age knows the name of Punch eric O 60 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 2: Strada and how cool they were driving along on the 61 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: Pacific Coast Highway in California, solving. 62 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: Crimes and protecting the public and being cool. 63 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 2: And then you go, you follow up naturally free association 64 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 2: again is oh yeah, didn't he end up doing novellas 65 00:04:55,240 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: in Mexico. That's sad by that measure, don't we all 66 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: have a tinge of sad in us? 67 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: Hey? 68 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: Whatever happened Old John Bishop from high school? Remember he 69 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: was such a good football player. Yeah, I heard he's 70 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: driving a forklift for the pepsi plant over in East Bernard. 71 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: Oh really? Yeah? Wow? 72 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: Whatever happened Old Reggie Night, our star basketball player? 73 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: Did he make it to the pros? 74 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: No? 75 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: He started. 76 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: He went to McNeice, blew his knee out, and uh, 77 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: somebody said, what is he doing? He tried welding, but 78 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 2: he could. He became a pipefitter, and then something happened. 79 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: His wife got cancer and died and lost his mind. 80 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: Somebody said, he's living in a trailer, and uh, with 81 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 2: his mom moved back in with Oh. Man, if we're 82 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 2: completely honest, if we're completely not. Everybody is as introspective 83 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: as the next guy. But if you're an introspective person, 84 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: you have to admit you're guilty of it, because I am, 85 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: and you have to admit that we do things like 86 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 2: this to feel better about ourselves. It's schodenfreud or Shoden fraud, 87 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: however you choose to pronounce it. Watching someone else stumble 88 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: makes us feel better about ourselves. And I suggest that 89 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: this is the emotion, the sentiment, the driving force behind 90 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: so much of what causes the media and establishment Republicans, 91 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: not Democrats, Republicans to hate Donald Trump. It's what causes 92 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: the Chenese and the Bushes and the Romneys to hate 93 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: Trump because Trump is beloved by the voters who might 94 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: have won their vote but never won their heart. 95 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: All that because hul covid go, let me move to receive. 96 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: All right, listen for a dial tone. 97 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: It sounds like this that Michael Berry Joe Captne indicates 98 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: everything is right in. 99 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: For your call. 100 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: We get so accustomed to things being the way they 101 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: are that we forget we live in such an interesting time. 102 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: I want you to stop for a moment, and I 103 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: want you to imagine it's twenty sixteen. Donald Trump is 104 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: running for president, and he's never been elected to an 105 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: office before. He's never run for office before. We got 106 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: to go back to Dwight Eisenhower in nineteen fifty two 107 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: to find a phenomenon like this. Eisenhower had been the 108 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: leader of the Allied Forces during World War II. He 109 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: is riding high off of the glory of being the 110 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: leader of the military that wins World War two. Emotions 111 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: are high. World War two concludes, Truman, who had been 112 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 2: FDR's vice president, ascends to the presidency after FDR dies. 113 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 1: He'd been ill for quite some time. 114 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 2: They had hidden that from the public, very very akin 115 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: to the Biden illness. So Truman runs in forty eight 116 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: and he runs against Dewey, and now the famous headline 117 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: Dewey defeats Truman because I think it was a Chicago 118 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 2: Tribune back in those days. Obviously it's pre internet, pre 119 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: cell phone. Based on the early returns and the best 120 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: information they could get, it looked like Truman. Look sorry, 121 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: it looks like Dowey's gonna win. 122 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: Well. 123 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: Truman, who by the way, was not above graft and corruption, 124 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: and there was grafting corruption in the forty eight election. 125 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: And Truman had come to power in Missouri as the 126 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 2: flunky step and fetch it for the Pendergast family, which 127 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: was an absolute criminal enterprise in Missouri. You know, the 128 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: buck stops here, Harry S. Truman is the S stands 129 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: for nothing. But he's a great guy. That's not true. 130 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 2: Truman was a functionary. Truman was like the guy who 131 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: is the CPA for the mafia, and he keeps the front. 132 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: You know, he makes the purchases. 133 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 2: He's uh, uh, what's is it? Patrick Bateman? What's the 134 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: guy's name in Ozark? Ramon, Yeah, he's like Patrick Bateman 135 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 2: in Ozark. At the end of the day, he is 136 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: committing crimes. He is part of the criminal enterprise. So true. 137 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: What Jason Bateman? Thank you his cousin Patrick? Okay, yeah, 138 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: all right, ye see you're thinking of Okay, So, so Truman. 139 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: Wins in forty eight, so fifty two, we've had Democrats 140 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: in control ever since FDR defeats Hoover in what thirty two, 141 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: So you've had four FDR elections and then Truman. Democrats 142 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: have had a lock on the White House. Eisenhower's going 143 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: to run, and Eisenhower could have run for either party, 144 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: and there was much discussion. Both parties were wooing him. 145 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: Eisenhower had not made a lot of public statements on politics, 146 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: and he was a celebrity in the sense, you know, 147 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: in the state of Texas, we had a similar phenomenon 148 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: where Nolan Ryan considered running and both parties wanted him, 149 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,119 Speaker 2: and he could have run in one and either. 150 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: Because of the celebrity status. 151 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 2: I think Schwarzenegger could have won in California as a Republican, 152 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: which he did, or as a Democrat. Jesse Ventura, who 153 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: ran as an independent in Minnesota. I suspect he could 154 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 2: have run in any party and won. And by the way, 155 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 2: I think that is also true of Trump. Trump's celebrity 156 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 2: and his gravitas, and there is something about Trump that 157 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: people gravitate to and always have. I mean, it's celebrity Apprentice, 158 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: it's the movies. It's Macaulay Culkin, his character in Home 159 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: Alone or whatever that was. It's him on he Haw, 160 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: it's him on magazine covers, it's him on Oprah Show. 161 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: There is something about Trump that people love. But I 162 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: want you to imagine. So Trump is running. He's never 163 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 2: run before, first time this has been done since Eisenhower. 164 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: Wer a guy who's never run a campaign. And by 165 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: the way, the sixteen election. I can go through some 166 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: years that the Republican stable of candidates was weak and 167 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: you'd say, well, maybe. 168 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: He'd win in that year. 169 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: That's arguably the strongest slate of candidates ever to run 170 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: for president in either party. Certainly certainly in the last 171 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five years. I'm comfortable saying that 172 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: you had seventeen candidates, you could argue that eight of 173 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: those could have won at different points in American history, 174 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: with the money they could raise, the celebrity status they had, 175 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: the name id, they had, the organization, they had, the 176 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 2: early polling. And Trump comes out of nowhere and he 177 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: doesn't just win, he wipes the field. Ted Cruz won 178 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: a lot of Super Tuesday states. John Kasik hung around 179 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: longer than one would expect. Marco did better than maybe 180 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: folks would expect. Scott Walker was out early. I really 181 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: thought he was going to be a tough candidate. He'd 182 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: won three elections in four years. 183 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: He was a reformer, he was the middle of the 184 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,359 Speaker 1: road guy. But you go back. 185 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: And you think about, here comes Trump out of nowhere, 186 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: and he wins, and he wins with really the Reform 187 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: Party platform more of an isolationism, a more common sense 188 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 2: foreign policy, we're not going to get ourselves in wars, 189 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: a little more isolation a little more protectionist, much more populist. 190 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 2: Those are words that we bandy about in a pejorative sense, 191 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: but most Americans are in that position. America first, if 192 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 2: you will, and here is Trump who wins this election. 193 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: The vice chair of the DNC at the time is 194 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 2: Tulsa Gabbard and he is committed to Bernie Sanders as 195 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 2: the presidential candidate. Not committed, but she's that's who she 196 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: thinks should win. And she herself would run for president 197 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: in twenty as a Democrat. 198 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: There's no question she was a Democrat. She was certainly 199 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: not a republic And. 200 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: Then you got this left wing anti corporation environmental lawyer 201 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: who is a scion of the most royal American family, 202 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: the Kennedys. 203 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: Fast forward to twenty twenty five. Robert F. 204 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: Kennedy is a critical component of the Trump administration's attack 205 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: on big Pharma and trying to fix our food supply, 206 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: and Toolsey Gabbard is bringing down the Democrat deep state 207 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: machine that attacked criminally Donald Trump in twenty twenty five. 208 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: This is the Michael Berry Show show. So the afore 209 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: mentioned Toolsey Gabbard. 210 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:13,119 Speaker 2: Folks, I don't remember anything like this. This is Abraham 211 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: Lincoln and Doris Kern Goodwin's book Team of Rivals, where 212 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: Lincoln takes the folks who ran against him for president 213 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: and puts them all into cabinet positions in the modern era. 214 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: This is. 215 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: Incredible Toolsey gabbered. This beautiful woman from Hawaii who serves 216 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: in the military, who's very, very proud of her Hawaiian heritage, 217 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: serves in Congress as a Democrat. The Democrats foced her 218 00:15:55,520 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: to vice chair of the Democrat Party. Now realistic, why 219 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: did they do that? Because she is a. 220 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: Non white woman. 221 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: And she can conjugate her b verbs and doesn't scream 222 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: about whitey. So they put a non white woman in 223 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: the second in command of this of the national Party 224 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: because it's all about diversity, diversity, diversity. But you can't 225 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: put Sheila Jackson Lee there, or now Jasmine Crockett or 226 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: Maxine Waters or whatever else. So they can only go 227 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: so far with the diversity thing. And she would she 228 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: would fit the bill because she's very bright. So Polsy 229 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 2: Gabberd is vice chair of the DNC. In the election 230 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: where Hillary was chosen by the DNC and Bernie Sanders 231 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: runs and Bernie wasn't, they cleared the field of Biden. 232 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: Obama cleared Biden out tells Biden, you can't run. Unbo 233 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: just died. Bless your heart, you're suffering and you know 234 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 2: you can't run. This is Hillary's turn. We'll run you 235 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: in twenty when you're old and demented, okay, and you 236 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: can spend four years self dealing. We'll set up some 237 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: meetings with the Chinese, and you can get rich because 238 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: you've always really wanted to be rich, and you can 239 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 2: run all the money through Hunter. Oh. 240 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: Okay, and Tulsi Gabbard blows the whistle. 241 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: That was the year that I think it really Twenty 242 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: sixteen will go back fifty years from now. I won't 243 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: be here, but they will look back and say that 244 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: was a major, major year. And I think it'll be 245 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 2: as big as the Great Depression in the early thirties, 246 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: the Civil War in the early eighteen sixties. It will 247 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: go down in history as this time when America underwent 248 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: a tectonic change and the teams sort of they changed 249 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 2: their composition. There's a very good chance that you were 250 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 2: a Democrat twenty or thirty or forty years ago. It's 251 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 2: a very good chance that you had different views on 252 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: domestic and international affairs. It's a very good chance that 253 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: people that you respected, who might have been a Democrat 254 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 2: or Republican, you have now come to learn things about 255 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 2: that have completely changed your opinion, and you now realize 256 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: that person is a bad person. I receive emails from people, 257 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: for instance, who will tell me that they weren't the 258 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 2: biggest Hillary fan, but they felt she was dishonored by 259 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 2: the press and the public and Republicans as first lady 260 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: because she dared be a strong woman as a first 261 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 2: lady and a professional and they came to learn that 262 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 2: that was all spin, that actually she was a devil. Well, 263 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: here we are Toolsey Gabber, the person who blew the 264 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: whistle on the fact that the Democrat Party was wiring 265 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: it so that Bernie couldn't win and only Hillary could, 266 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: which is in violation of their charter. That's not their 267 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: jobs to pick winners and losers, and they were doing 268 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 2: it illegally. That's when WikiLeaks did the big dump. Remember 269 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 2: Julian Assange, And you were supposed to believe that Julian 270 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: Assange was an evil person because he was going in 271 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 2: and making things transparent and open for the public that 272 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: the public wasn't supposed to know about. And this was 273 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: terrible and we were all going to die. Except okay, 274 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 2: let's get over the fact that he did that. What's 275 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: the content of the messages? Oh no, no, no, don't look 276 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 2: at that, and the world changed and what was done 277 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: to Trump changed the world. And then the twenty twenty election, 278 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 2: and then January sixth, and then the indictments and the prosecution, 279 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: the persecution, the fake cases, the felony convictions, and here 280 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: we are. It's twenty twenty five. The Director of National Intelligence, 281 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: former DNC Vice Chairman Tulsea Gabbert said something many people 282 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 2: in DC and the media have forgotten, and. 283 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: This is what we have to get back to. 284 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: What they have for bre Heerdon is that they are 285 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 2: accountable to the American people. 286 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 3: We're here today because the American people deserve the truth, 287 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 3: they deserve accountability, and they deserve justice. The records that 288 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: we released on Friday that were ODE and I records, 289 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 3: Senator Chuck Grassley's release on Monday of what is known 290 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 3: as the Clinton which was an appendix to the Department 291 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 3: of Justice Office of Inspector General's twenty eighteen report, as 292 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: well as the House Intelligence Committee's Oversight Majority Oversight report 293 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 3: that we're releasing today, all come back to and confirm 294 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:19,479 Speaker 3: the same report. There was a gross politicization manipulation of 295 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 3: intelligence by the Obama administration intended to delegitimize President Trump 296 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 3: even before he was inaugurated, ultimately usurping the will of 297 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 3: the American people. 298 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:38,239 Speaker 2: The difference between Tulsey Gabbard and Donald Trump is the 299 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: difference between William Faulkner and Ernest Hemingway. Faulkner wrote in beautiful, langorous, rolling, 300 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 2: eloquent Southern sentences. Hemingway spoke in staccato bam bam bam. 301 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 2: Him Ingway was punchy sentences that were very direct. And 302 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: so it's sort of like the Bible verse Jesus wept, 303 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 2: so shortest verse in the Bible, but as powerful as 304 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: John three point sixteen. Because the concept of the Son 305 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: of God weeping, you didn't need to adorn it. You 306 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: didn't need to describe the tears. You didn't need to 307 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: describe his eyes. You didn't need to That was it. 308 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 2: Those two words so very powerful. What Toolsy Gabbered is 309 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: saying right here is that the referee is playing for 310 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 2: the other side is that the emperor has no clothes. 311 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 2: It's that evil is a foot in the country, and 312 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: it is so powerful and so devilish that it threatens 313 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 2: to destroy America altogether a lot of big words to 314 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: say that but she said it. This is as important 315 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: as anything we are ever going to cover on this show, 316 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: and more important than ninety nine point nine percent of it. 317 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 2: So much of political talk is showmanship and gamesmanship and sport. 318 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: This right here, this matters the Michael Berry Show, Michael 319 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: Berry Show. 320 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: We all have our struggles in life, and we all 321 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: have things about our work that we don't enjoy, whether 322 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: we work at home or out in the workforce. When 323 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: I got the news just as we were going off 324 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: the air this morning at eleven o'clock that Hulk Hogan 325 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 2: had died, I said to Ramon, because I had to 326 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 2: hear it from Jim Mudd, why didn't you tell me 327 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 2: that Hulk Hogan died? And he said, well, you always 328 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 2: say we're not a breaking news show. 329 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: He thought was funny. It's not. 330 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 2: We're not a breaking news show. But when the Hulk dies, 331 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: we're going to mention it. That's what we're gonna do. 332 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 2: Funny Hulk Hogan story. My dear friend, the late George Foreman, 333 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 2: made over two hundred million dollars on the George Foreman grill, 334 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: but it almost never came to pass that grill made 335 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: by that company was offered. 336 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: To Hulk Hogan. 337 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: They knew they needed a personality, they had the product, 338 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 2: and they had a huge marketing budget. Turns out marketing works. 339 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 2: That's good because I'm in a business that is supported 340 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: by people who pay to talk to you through me. 341 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: Well, it's an influencer. 342 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 2: We use the word influencer now we think of influencers 343 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 2: as mister Beast or the Kardashians. Hulk Cogan was an influencer. 344 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: Hulk Hogan was offered to be the frontman for that grill. Now, 345 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 2: he wasn't offered two hundred million dollars. It had taken 346 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 2: that down. He was offered a cut of the profits, 347 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 2: small cut, but a cut of the profits. And his 348 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: team of people who reviewed all the business offers that 349 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: were presented to him, said, we don't see another little 350 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 2: tabletop grill that drains off the grease being anything worth anything. 351 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 2: What else you got, Oh, well we got this spaghetti maker. 352 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: Obia Ah, that's what people want. They want to make 353 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 2: spaghetti at home pasta. So the Hulk Hogan Pasta Maker 354 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 2: was born and it busted. Next on the list of 355 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: prospective spokesman was the champ former heavyweight chant George Foreman. 356 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 2: One of the most sweet, wonderful, impressive, wise human beings 357 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: I've ever met in my life. I adored that man. 358 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 2: He gave us our dog, George. Why we named her George, 359 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 2: it was because he gave her to us. He was 360 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: a breeder of prize German shepherds. He's a great father 361 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: to his kid's, great husband to his wife, inventor, pastor 362 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: of a church that he funded entirely, mentor to so 363 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 2: many people. Good actor, incredible boxer, A story of fifty 364 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,479 Speaker 2: years old showing the world just don't give up. So 365 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: that product is offered to George Foreman. George Foreman becomes 366 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 2: the face of this grill, which they named the George 367 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 2: Foreman Grill. George Foreman's got a charm about him in 368 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 2: personal life and in front of the camera. Some people 369 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: lack it in front of the camera, but everyone loved George. 370 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 2: He's this big, burly guy, mean, just cuddly big fellow. 371 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: And that thing sold gangbusters, I mean gangbusters so much 372 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 2: so that fifty million dollars into it. The folks came 373 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: to him and said, hey, how about we buy you out. 374 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 2: We'll give you a one time lump sum payment of 375 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty million dollars. That'll true you up 376 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: to two hundred million. You will have made twundred million 377 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 2: off his thing. And because you know it, you're running 378 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: the risk maybe tomorrow's thy won't be popular anymore. He 379 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: took his buck, fifty went on his way, and the 380 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: George Roman grill did end up making a lot more money, but. 381 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: Two and I think it was two hundred and ten million. 382 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 1: He ended up making off of it. 383 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 2: Pretty darn good haul, if you ask me. Back to 384 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 2: Tulsey Gabbard, she said, there is irrefutable evidence that details 385 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 2: President Obama and his national security team directed the creation 386 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: of an Intelligence Community assessment an ICA that they knew 387 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 2: was false. They knew what they were doing. They were 388 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 2: doing this on purpose, they were abusing their powers, and 389 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: we're not going to let them off the hook. 390 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 3: There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and 391 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 3: his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence 392 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: community assessment that they knew was false. They knew it 393 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 3: would promote this contrived narrative that Russia interfered in the 394 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: twenty sixteen election to help President Trump win, selling it 395 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 3: to the American people as though it were true. 396 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: It wasn't. The report that. 397 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 3: We released Today's shows in great detail how they carried 398 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 3: this out. They manufactured findings from shoddy sources. They suppressed 399 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 3: evidence and credible intelligence that disproved their false claims. They 400 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 3: disobeyed traditional tradecraft intelligence community standards, and withheld the truth 401 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 3: from the American people. In doing so, they conspired to 402 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 3: subvert the will of the American people who elected Donald 403 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 3: Trump in that election in November of twenty sixteen. 404 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: So now we've seen it investigated. 405 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: That we never expected to see in the first place, 406 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: then exposed because a lot of things get investigated but 407 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 2: never revealed. The next question will be will it be prosecuted? 408 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: We have grown so jaded, and I'm as guilty as 409 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 2: you are, so we have grown so jaded that we 410 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: do not believe any of it will ever matter. And 411 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: I hear from you in your frust traded, and you say, Michael, 412 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 2: you're going on on about what Obama did, And here's 413 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 2: what does it matter. He's not going to prison. If 414 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: you were to ask me today, is he going to prison? No, 415 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: I don't believe he's going to prison. But short of 416 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 2: going to prison, is there a reason to expose this? Absolutely? 417 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: And the reason to explode, expose this is the very 418 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: reason the left insists on tearing down monuments. It's why 419 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: isis tore down monuments in Syria that went back to Christendom, 420 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 2: thousand year old sacred monuments and artifacts. It's a question 421 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 2: of what is going to be Obama's legacy, how is 422 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: he and how are they going to be perceived? And 423 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: I want to see them sweat. I want them to 424 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: fear going to prison because the implications if a president 425 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 2: can get away with this and they're not prosecuted and 426 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: they're not hassled, the implications, as she notes, are far 427 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: reaching into the future. 428 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 3: The implications of this are far reaching and have to 429 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 3: do with the integrity of our democratic republic. It has 430 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: to do with an outgoing president taking action to manufacture 431 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 3: intelligence to undermine and usurp the will of the American 432 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 3: people in that election and launch what would be a 433 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 3: year's long coup against the incoming president of the United States, 434 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: Donald Trump,