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Speaker 1: Our number two on a trash talking Tuesday. You know

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Speaker 1: what that means. Later this hour, forty minutes or so,

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Speaker 1: you have a chance to trash anyone anything in the

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Speaker 1: Parker me on my fortieth anniversary, Alice, you could have

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Speaker 1: ripped me.

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Speaker 4: Put the camera on me. Oh, put the camera on Rob.

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Speaker 5: I'm disgusted.

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Speaker 4: God, let's tell you got the camera's on you now?

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Speaker 5: Cut the music, Sager. I am n O T not

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Speaker 5: a fan of Rob park You want to know why why?

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Speaker 5: I've never met somebody who's so right in sports in

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Speaker 5: my life. He calls it like he sees it. He

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Speaker 5: knows right from wrong, and he can tell you who's

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Speaker 5: next on the chopping block. They don't like it, Rob.

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Speaker 6: There you go, my man, I'm supposed to be trash

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Speaker 6: talking Tuesday.

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Speaker 7: That was See how He even found a way to

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Speaker 7: fluff it even in trash Talking Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: No, it's a it's a fluffer talk talking to here,

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Speaker 1: it is fluffer talking.

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Speaker 7: To Okay, Yeah, I don't I don't like the way

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Speaker 7: that literates. I don't even know if that's a word.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if I like the way that literates.

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Speaker 1: Sluffer talking to. Any chance you want to fluff somebody,

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Speaker 1: So eat from Salam is going to join us in

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes and thirty minutes, Vinny Boncier, I mean, there

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Speaker 4: I got it. Who covers the raiders? I want to

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Speaker 4: trust you?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but you're the newbie on the show, so

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Speaker 1: I do that whenever I know it's all I told

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Speaker 1: you New Year, knew me? No, No, New Year, you

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Speaker 1: know me. I'm about to Vinnie Bonce. Okay, at least

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Speaker 1: say it with your chest when at least when I'm wrong,

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Speaker 1: I own it. Yeah, but you own it wrong. At

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Speaker 1: least I own it and trysh talking. So we got

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Speaker 1: a lot to get to in our number two. And

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Speaker 1: of course the big story today is that forty years

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Speaker 1: John oh, John Hard No, that was earlier today. I was, uh,

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Speaker 1: I was just and I did want to say one

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Speaker 1: other thing. We went out of time.

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Speaker 4: One other thing. What is the other thing? And and

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Speaker 4: it it's about having a long career in staying power,

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Speaker 4: rob G. The first thing he said was forty years.

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Speaker 4: I haven't even been alive that long.

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Speaker 7: You know, when you start to think back, like you're

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Speaker 7: not forty eight, Rob G, I wish I was forty eight.

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Speaker 1: Thirty seven, thirty seven, he call rob that's a weird age,

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Speaker 1: ain't it?

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Speaker 4: Seven?

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Speaker 8: Not quite forty? But you're not thirty either. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 8: like a weird spot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Only good thing is that you you got kids and

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Speaker 1: you're married if you're thirty seven, you know not you

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Speaker 1: single any streets?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like you don't.

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Speaker 6: Make rob parking money.

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Speaker 7: Oh you struggling cool Like, well they're gonna be but

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Speaker 7: they're gonna front like it's lit though, but but they'll

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with him? He's thirty and he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: anybodies know. Nowadays there's just no dudes just are trying

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Speaker 1: a whole reason for that. All right, just yeah, we'll

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Speaker 7: It used to be right, you graduate high school back

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Speaker 7: it turned all right, well maybe you go to college

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Speaker 7: now you're twenty two, three four five, you get a

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Speaker 7: when you lock in and become an adult to like forty.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm just saying, sometimes you don't want the headache anyway,

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Speaker 1: rob g the big story.

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Speaker 4: Some guys like the headache. Some guys like a roommate.

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Speaker 4: Why gonna be a headache though, rob G, he ain't

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Speaker 4: a headache. Rob G didn't. He didn't have to.

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Speaker 8: You know it's not rob My wife listens all the

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Speaker 8: time now and she is the light of my life.

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Speaker 4: Oh look every day. But Brownie points here. Oh my god.

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Speaker 7: Okay, that's right, rob G, mine too. Your wife ain't listening,

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Speaker 7: but you can't stand me. That's already know she was listening, yes,

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Speaker 7: I said. Sometimes she like we were listening. I think

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Speaker 7: He was about to go to smooth jazz?

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Speaker 6: What O five?

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Speaker 4: So does beget?

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Speaker 8: She listens for six minutes an hour, gets the rating

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Speaker 6: What's shout to Bay for doing that?

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Speaker 8: Total opposite of robbing the Senate And I show on

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Speaker 8: NBC what as soon as it comes on Why and

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Speaker 8: you Jonas, I'm sorry, I can't do it on guard

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Speaker 8: You know that you already.

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Speaker 1: I saw Jonas for the first time earlier when he

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Speaker 1: was here for Collins show. Jonas all year, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Like right since last football. So he

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Speaker 4: I don't care.

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Speaker 6: He was looking lonely without you, you know, he was

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Speaker 4: That Mario, did he borrow your fur coat? Well?

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Speaker 7: I had a a furred up hoodie. I literally thought

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Speaker 1: Here and John Horball now out in Baltimore. But Rob G,

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Speaker 1: I guess should say, Kelvin you, Rob G, Kelvin's not

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Speaker 1: that keen on John Harball, even though right he's going

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Speaker 1: to be a commodity.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he is a commodity.

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Speaker 8: ESPN's Adam Schefter reported earlier this afternoon after the firing

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Speaker 8: Harball was fired, his agent put his name on it.

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Speaker 8: Brian Harlan said that he received calls from seven NFL

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Speaker 8: teams expressing interest the problem. There are currently only seven

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Speaker 8: head coaching openings, including Baltimore, which means at least one

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Speaker 4: Courtney Schefter.

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Speaker 8: He is far and away the ball of the ball,

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Speaker 8: the prize coach available on the market, and that makes sense.

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Speaker 6: I'm not mad at that.

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Speaker 7: I get why he celebrated eighteen years really good. We

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Speaker 7: I would be looking at that's still very young. The

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Speaker 7: looking at Brian Flores. Now, I already know it can't

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Speaker 7: happen because of the case with this, Why bring him up?

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Speaker 7: I'm just saying, why bring him up? If against the NFL, Well, no, no,

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Speaker 7: of him is Kevin Sefanski Stefanski and that people are

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Speaker 7: People are gonna look at the same thing they're looking

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Speaker 7: they could have maybe achieve more in the postseason. So

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Speaker 7: I can see Kevin Sefanski being ahead of him as well,

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Speaker 7: wanting to go with the youth movement because I think

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Speaker 7: that start where we're starting to see Rob. You and

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Speaker 7: I set up here and we talked about why would

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Speaker 7: what I do well. So I think Kevin Sefanski would

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I disagree. I don't think he was two time

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Speaker 1: coaching of the Year. He didn't win a Super Bowl, Okay,

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Speaker 1: and you could say whatever you want. I think it

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Speaker 1: was time for John Harber to get fired. He's been

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Speaker 1: there too long. He was there eighteen years and had

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Speaker 1: three losing seasons. I mean that counts for something. And

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Speaker 1: somebody who they might feel like we have a good team,

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Speaker 1: maybe we just need the right guy or different voice

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Speaker 1: it's real or not. The reason Mike McCarthy got another job, right,

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Speaker 1: it's because he had a super Bowl in his back pocket.

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Speaker 1: And John Harbaugh has a super Bowl in his back

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Speaker 1: You can't take that away from him. And teams are dying.

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Speaker 1: There are plenty of teams that have no shot or

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Speaker 1: these teams who would die to have a super Bowl

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Speaker 1: winning coach. They don't come available all the time.

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Speaker 6: Gonta throw some things at you. Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 7: So John Harball, we all agree, has had a really

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Speaker 7: good tenure there. However, some of that, I believe, especially

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Speaker 7: the latter portion, is having the success that he had

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Speaker 7: with Lamar, especially regular season. I mean, I'm gonna win

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Speaker 7: with seventy percent of the games wins seventy two percent

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Speaker 7: something like that. You look at the five years after

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Speaker 7: Ray Lewis and Ed Reed left, Harball missed the playoffs.

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Speaker 7: Four to five years it was at or below five

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Speaker 7: hundred four out of those five years.

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Speaker 4: Harball is blown.

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Speaker 7: We talked about this the last couple of days, last yesterday,

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Speaker 7: and today. He's blown eighteen second half double digit leites.

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Speaker 7: The most is nineteen ninety one. And so I'm not

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Speaker 7: again he is a good coach. I'm not denying that, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, just saying he's not gonna get a job.

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Speaker 6: No, No, he's gonna get a job.

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Speaker 4: He said.

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Speaker 1: Give you exhibit A on why you're wrong. And I

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Speaker 6: Absolutely could have been it was cutting boarding.

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Speaker 7: He's gonna take multiple things for the Jets. It's gonna

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Speaker 7: It's gonna take and it's gonna take three years of

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Speaker 9: E what up man, what's happening in brothers ill doing

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Speaker 7: Brother doing good. Let's get straight to it, John Harbaugh,

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Speaker 7: fire you in? You out right move?

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Speaker 4: Wrong move? What you think?

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Speaker 9: I really didn't see it coming. I knew there were,

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Speaker 1: Here's my issue with John Harbaugh, Like like every year

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 9: It just didn't feel like this year was the Ravens year.

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Speaker 9: And I guess, you know, Lamar will be twenty nine,

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Speaker 9: coming up and moving into a new era. You want

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Speaker 9: to get somebody in there who a little bit of energy.

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Speaker 9: You need a little bit more life in the organization.

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Speaker 9: After eighteen years and they have had success, but like

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Speaker 9: you said, they've they've been too good personnel wise to

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Speaker 9: not have had multiple shots at the super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: And that's the problem.

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Speaker 7: You can't have the MVP, best player in the league

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Speaker 7: arguably for the last three four years or so up

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Speaker 7: right up there if you want to say, Josh or

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Speaker 7: Patrick right, you know, right there in the mix, and.

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Speaker 1: Then one of the greatest kickers as well when it

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Speaker 1: wasn't getting massage.

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Speaker 4: Had everything you need.

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Speaker 7: And so again, it's always a feeling where you left

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Speaker 7: like I did ignore that well you try, you know,

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Speaker 7: you felt you walk away from like what happened. And

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Speaker 7: I think he's been was a victim of his own Successman.

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Speaker 7: You guys win twelve games, give or take every year.

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Speaker 7: Lamar looks ridiculously good every year, and yet there's always

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Speaker 7: some COLLAPSEX collapse that happened. And I think I from

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Speaker 7: moving forward kind of reminded me of Dan Campbell on

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Speaker 7: that I love that you can build a team, build

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Speaker 7: a culture, but you need have Ben Johnson around John Harborough.

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Speaker 7: Do you think that's kind of something where somebody helped

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Speaker 7: me fine tune this thing and close it out.

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Speaker 9: Well, yeah, you got to remember, Lamar is such a

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Speaker 9: special talent. You can't bring any offensive coordinator in there.

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Speaker 9: It has to be something that is going to align

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Speaker 9: with what he's able to do and what he likes

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Speaker 9: to do. At this point, when you bring a coach in,

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Speaker 9: which inevitably is going to bring an offensive coordinator in,

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Speaker 9: it's got to be someone who is okay with maximizing

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Speaker 9: Lamar Jackson's abilities, whether it be extending to the pocket running.

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Speaker 10: Whatever that can be.

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Speaker 9: You know, you know, defensive minded head coach, you've gotta

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Speaker 9: have somebody in there who really can can put together

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Speaker 9: a style of offense and a game plan is going

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Speaker 9: to be more conducive to them not getting exposed in

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Speaker 9: the playoffs and them not competing for Super Bowls every year.

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Speaker 7: Hey, for real, quick, we're up against it. Let me

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Speaker 7: ask you one more so that obviously it was Black Monday.

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Speaker 7: Now you can even say Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: Every Monday.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, every Monday black all three of us. It is

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Speaker 7: always Black Monday for all three of us. But quickly,

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Speaker 7: what you say, who else would you say is out

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Speaker 7: there that these coaches did say, Hey, a team should

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Speaker 7: look at us? Is it Kevin Stefanski, is it Cliff Kingsbury?

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Speaker 4: Is it?

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Speaker 7: Who's the Obviously John Harpa will get a job. But

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Speaker 7: who else is there? As you say that, look at

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Speaker 7: that person?

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Speaker 9: Look? I like this new opening. I would revisit Freeman

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Speaker 9: at at Notre Dame right like, I would tap back

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Speaker 9: into that, and I mean, how do you pass that up?

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Speaker 9: Kurt Signetti?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 9: Is he going to pass up an opportunity to have

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Speaker 9: Lamar Jackson and a well run organization. I would start

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Speaker 9: looking at places like that instead of maybe retrading, I

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Speaker 9: would try to go find a new, fresh, young face

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Speaker 9: or somebody who can come in there and bring a

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Speaker 9: little time into some different energy. That's what I think

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Speaker 9: Baltimore is lacking is energy. It's always been the same old,

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Speaker 9: same old. So you want to hit, and you want

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Speaker 9: to hit in a place where you can have pay

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Speaker 9: dividends for the next eighteen years or so.

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Speaker 4: To speak, no doubt. All right, he appreciate you.

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Speaker 9: Always, absolutely, brothers.

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Speaker 10: All right, bet you gouy you.

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Speaker 4: I'll be safe, No doubt you too.

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Speaker 7: We got Vinnie boutsenorgan ready to join us here in

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Speaker 7: just a moment for us. We got to get you

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Speaker 7: set on what's trending with an update from Steve Seger. Hey, Steve.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 7: R to listen live and make Rob g Man. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: let's go, Rob g Can you do some work? 'll

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Speaker 7: tell you look at it all right? That thought he

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Speaker 7: thumbs up to you, he was. He was Josh Hart.

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Speaker 4: No wonder you didn't you see me jump up when

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Speaker 4: he thumbed me.

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Speaker 6: Oh, you just gave Alex?

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Speaker 4: What did I say?

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Speaker 3: Alex?

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Speaker 4: You weren't paying attention, were you?

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Speaker 5: I'm always watching eight seven seven.

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Speaker 4: Ninety nine old Fox.

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Speaker 1: That was seven seven sixty three six.

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Speaker 4: That was wowd right there? All right?

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Speaker 6: Uh wow.

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Speaker 7: Vinnie b Nnie Or covers the Raiders for the Las

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Speaker 7: Vegas Review Journal, host of the Morning Tailgate.

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Speaker 4: Hope they're paying them a little that garbage?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no, Vinnie, Vinnie, if you had hair, I will

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Speaker 7: say you pulled on your hair out.

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Speaker 6: But you don't have any Happy New year?

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Speaker 4: My what's up? Vinnie?

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Speaker 10: Happy new Year to both of you guys in Rob Man,

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Speaker 10: I saw your trip down memory lane post and you

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Speaker 10: haven't aged to Ben Man, what the heck's going on?

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable huh in forty years, my man, just a little

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Speaker 1: gras but.

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Speaker 10: I love it, man, Let's congratulations everything.

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Speaker 4: Thank you man. I appreciate that, no doubt. Vinnie Bee, Uh,

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Speaker 4: what we can start with?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Well, so you all got rid of your coach, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: with Pete Carrot, which we both agreed that was Vinnie.

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Speaker 1: We both said we'll do yeah that it was a

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Speaker 1: bad high. I did not understand. It's just no upside

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Speaker 1: a long way. And I couldn't believe how bad the

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Speaker 1: Waiders were. Were you surprised that they didn't do anything

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Speaker 1: well right?

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Speaker 10: And you know, you have to kind of go all

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Speaker 10: the way back to how that all started. They wanted

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Speaker 10: Ben Johnson, and you know, it was interesting with Ben

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Speaker 10: Johnson with that pursuit because initially his agent told the Raiders, hey,

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Speaker 10: nobody wants to embarrass anybody, so don't put a permission

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Speaker 10: slip in because he's just not interested. Nothing personal. But

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Speaker 10: you know, that's that's just not anything that interests him.

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Speaker 10: And then Tom Brady got involved and convinced the agent

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Speaker 10: to at least, you know, let Ben and sit down

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Speaker 10: and talk with Tom and you know, and try to

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Speaker 10: convince him. And it actually went pretty far because of

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Speaker 10: Tom Brady. But that was clearly their first choice. The

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Speaker 10: problem was Ben Johnson said, I mean, I'm looking at

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Speaker 10: your quarterback room. I don't really see anybody. I looking

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Speaker 10: in Chicago and there's Kayleb Williams. I think I'd rather

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Speaker 10: work with Kayleb Williams, which made a lot of sense,

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Speaker 10: But the pivot then to Pete Carroll in retrospect was

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Speaker 10: the wrong thing to do. What the the idea was

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Speaker 10: that Pete was going to be able to come in

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Speaker 10: here and quickly raise the floor and you know, work

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Speaker 10: his magic and get them to at least respectability. And

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Speaker 10: you know, he convinced them to bring in Geno Smith.

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Speaker 10: There was nobody saw Gino Smith playing as bad as

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Speaker 10: he did happening. You know, when you go back to

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Speaker 10: his three years as a starter in Seattle, the guy

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Speaker 10: was playing like a top fifteen quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 10: That's indisputable when you look at the numbers. So his regression,

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Speaker 10: the offensive line not being able to open holes for

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Speaker 10: ashing Genty or protect you know Smith, that was a

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Speaker 10: massive failure and sabotage the Raiders. And and it wasn't

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Speaker 10: too long into the season where I think everybody in

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Speaker 10: the organization realized this timeline just isn't gonna work, especially

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Speaker 10: with the Raiders closing in on the on the first pick. Overall,

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Speaker 10: they need a younger coach that represents longevity to pair

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Speaker 10: with Fernando Mendoza or Dante More and somebody that that

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Speaker 10: that bot the both the quarterback and the coach can

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Speaker 10: now grow together and build something that they think could

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Speaker 10: be pretty special. They've got the most money salary cap

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Speaker 10: space in the NFL. They've got cash to burn here

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Speaker 10: in Las Vegas. It's actually an attractive with the number

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Speaker 10: one pick, brock Powers, Max Crosby, you know, asking Genty,

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Speaker 10: They've they've got pieces in place, and and I think

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Speaker 10: Tom Brady learned a lot of lessons.

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Speaker 7: So right VDB Soday is it John Harball or is

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Speaker 7: he too old? You said you want to go younger?

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Speaker 10: You know interesting, I mean you have to be you

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Speaker 10: have to be interested in in in somebody like a

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Speaker 10: John Harbord and he's not seventy four three. Yeah, so

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Speaker 10: like like we'd be probably having a different conversation right

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Speaker 10: now if Pete Carroll were sixty three years old and

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Speaker 10: there was a longer runway. But you know, by the

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Speaker 10: time Pete's contract runs out, which would have been in

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Speaker 10: twenty twenty seven, now you're talking about seventy seven, seventy

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Speaker 10: eight years old, you know, So that that just and

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Speaker 10: I think their belief was that he was going to

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Speaker 10: be okay with just lifting the floor and then handing

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Speaker 10: it off to somebody in three years. And who knows,

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Speaker 10: maybe Pete kind of told them, hey, I'll be okay

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Speaker 10: with that, you know, in the job interview. But it

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Speaker 10: was clear from the beginning that Pete wanted to kind

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Speaker 10: of win right now and make winning moves right now,

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Speaker 10: and that's not where the Raiders are right now, especially

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Speaker 10: without a true future quarterback. So it just didn't work.

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Speaker 10: But you know, I think John Harbo is somebody that

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Speaker 10: at that age might not be you know, might be

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Speaker 10: somebody that they're interested, but I don't know that John

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Speaker 10: Harbo would be interested in the Raiders at this point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it just seems like a mess. And you know

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady should get some of the blame.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 1: Because because if things got turned around, he would get

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Speaker 1: praise for putting it together. And this time around. You said,

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Speaker 1: you think he's learned his lesson here, And I.

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Speaker 10: Don't know if he's learned a lesson, but I think

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Speaker 10: that he he he. I don't know if you know.

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Speaker 10: When when we say learn, I'm automatically thinking he's going

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Speaker 10: to be better for it. That remains to be seen.

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Speaker 10: But I think some harsh lessons were learned. Whether he

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Speaker 10: I think he's going to apply it. I mean he

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Speaker 10: has to because his name is all over this. And

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Speaker 10: and I'll say this too. You know that statement that

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Speaker 10: that Mark Davis put out, that was really the first

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Speaker 10: time out outwardly and publicly the Raiders kind of acknowledge

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Speaker 10: what Tom Brady really is around here, and he's the

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Speaker 10: guy in charge, and I think they've tried to be

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Speaker 10: politically correct about it or dance around it. You know,

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Speaker 10: he's got the other job with Fox, you know, which.

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Speaker 4: Is just crazy. It's total conflict of interest in the league.

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Speaker 1: Now they're going to have problems, really because why not

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Speaker 1: Ryan is asking for the same exact. I want to

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Speaker 1: keep my CBS gig and I want to run the

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Speaker 1: Falcons like that's that's where we are now.

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Speaker 10: Yeah and yeah, no, no doubt about it. And this

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Speaker 10: is what I've always learned covering the NFL. It's only

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Speaker 10: a problem if you know what twelve other owners feel.

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Speaker 10: It's a problem. If the owners don't feel it's a problem,

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Speaker 10: I'm here to tell you it ain't a problem because

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Speaker 10: they're the ones that run the whole darn thing, and

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Speaker 10: they signed off on it and they're okay with it.

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Speaker 10: I would imagine Matt Ryan that that's a little bit

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Speaker 10: different because you know, the one thing with Tom Brady

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Speaker 10: here is that he's part of ownership group now, so

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Speaker 10: he's not he doesn't have an official title.

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Speaker 4: Well, but they could do that with Matt Ryan.

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Speaker 1: Gives give us you could do that and say he's

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Speaker 1: a minority owner now and just in a.

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Speaker 10: Consultant, Yeah, they absolutely, they absolutely could. You know, we'll

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Speaker 10: see if it goes. It's a little bit of a

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Speaker 10: process to get that done. I think they're actually trying

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Speaker 10: to just hire him as sounds like anyway, as the

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Speaker 10: president of football operations are some sort if.

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Speaker 4: They do that, then he can't do the work for CBS.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that would be that would be That would be

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Speaker 10: interesting to see how that works. But I guess my

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Speaker 10: point was this has been totally brought up, talked about,

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Speaker 10: bandied about by the owners. They voted on it, they

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Speaker 10: put the rules in place. This is their league. And

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Speaker 10: whether you or I or anybody else thinks that, wow,

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Speaker 10: that's a conflict of interest, It's only a conflict of

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Speaker 10: interest truly, if enough owners feel it was and said, hey,

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Speaker 10: we're not going to let that happen. But to date

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Speaker 10: they haven't. They haven't let that happen. And as Mark

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Speaker 10: Davis has said, he's told me this, it's not like

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Speaker 10: it's helping us right now.

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Speaker 4: You ain't lying about that, Bennie. We appreciate it, man,

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Speaker 4: We're up against it. Thank you, brother.

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Speaker 10: All Right, I have a good one you guys.

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Speaker 4: No doubt.

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Speaker 7: Vinnie bon signor make sure you give a follow at

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Speaker 7: his name right there on X All right, coming up,

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Speaker 7: trash Talk Tuesday, rop trash Talking Tuesday eight seven, seven

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Speaker 6: We want to hear from you. Hit us up.

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Speaker 3: Hey, it's trash Talking Tuesday. On the Odd couple get

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Speaker 3: those cans to the curve. What gobage man right now

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Speaker 3: at eight seven seven on Fox. Fox Sports Radio has

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Speaker 6: Oh Man and with the Beat Too.

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Speaker 7: Weekend, put the camera on Robb G and Alex Alex

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Speaker 7: Man ain't no good.

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Speaker 4: Look how they doing you? Rob did not say that

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Speaker 4: you put something together. I didn't.

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Speaker 5: We human, I didn't touch nothing.

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Speaker 4: That's who did. When did I say that? Wait?

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Speaker 7: Run okay, don't run it back. We running back because

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Speaker 7: I got to hear what you said again. I told

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Speaker 7: you in real time it was bad you Actually, that's

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Speaker 7: exactly that what happened.

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Speaker 4: That's not what I said.

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Speaker 5: What happens.

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Speaker 4: I did not say that.

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Speaker 6: That's a verbat to the.

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Speaker 4: Beat talker as Yak Robin Kelvin.

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Speaker 7: On a trash Talking Tuesday, we had ephrom join us,

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Speaker 7: is time for trash talking.

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Speaker 5: I much forgot Sogers here.

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Speaker 6: Oh he's so stupid.

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Speaker 4: Don't you talk about me.

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Speaker 3: It's trash talking. Tuesday's tea Dredge.

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Speaker 4: I don't know whether to smile.

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Speaker 3: Lets you kick a field, go man.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get it kicked off with Chris and

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Speaker 1: Saint Louis. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Who you eat trash and Chris?

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Speaker 9: Hey, rob my name Christus say duds. We crossed pass before.

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Speaker 9: I bet I sold tickets at the base Bush Stadium,

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Speaker 9: But I want to focus on.

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Speaker 4: You know I was at Bush. If I'm in se.

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Speaker 9: Okay, it could have win either way because if Pittsburg

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Speaker 9: had a loss, that Mom and Pop Organizations Tomy would

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Speaker 9: have been gone money. I agree with that harpball loss.

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Speaker 9: He gone okay, and if they got rid of term Landry,

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Speaker 9: he's about same age here, I mean a legendary coach.

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Speaker 9: What do you think Harball. I mean, come on now,

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Speaker 9: no doubt Landry and the dan of all coaches if

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Speaker 9: they put him on the chopping block. Who Jim Harball?

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Speaker 9: And another thing.

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Speaker 4: Another thanks Chris appreciated Crivens.

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Speaker 1: All right, Uh, Sean and Sacramento, you're on the couple

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Speaker 1: of Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: Who you trash to show up?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Because though Kelby, my brother's behind the boards and

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Speaker 2: mister Iden coverage Sports.

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Speaker 4: Nineteen eighty six.

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Speaker 2: Oh, just calling it to congratulate you off forty years,

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Speaker 2: my guy, and say hi to guys like that Gully,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Riverside, Jason Whitlock, Bucky Brooks, Chandler's Small Frying, my

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Speaker 2: personal favorite, Rick Berry. Every single one of the Ager's

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Speaker 2: got to eat their words after forty years of owning

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Speaker 2: the hot, tight game and proving yourself right, Alex, go

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Speaker 2: ahead and fake me out over and over and over

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Speaker 2: and over and over.

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Speaker 6: All Right, that's enough, Sean, go get to the kids.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. Oh, I know I had the background.

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Speaker 6: I know that sound.

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Speaker 1: Jerome and Charleston. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: Who are you trashing? Jerome?

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Speaker 9: Kevin Garnet and I want to drank steroid boy Alex

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Speaker 9: Rodriguez for bringing him into Becca to the family.

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Speaker 2: Okay, nothing better than bringing the black man in.

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Speaker 9: The hitches all reache.

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Speaker 2: You ever heard him talk to? Tell me he don't

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Speaker 2: hit his own rage that Kevin Garnett, She's a bumb

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Speaker 2: okay and.

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Speaker 9: You'll always be a bomb.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what anybody said. I can't stand him

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Speaker 2: and he hates his rich rob Block is Robert Griffiths?

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Speaker 2: Is he blocking up for you? Rob?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Yo, thanks for the call, Thanks for the call. Jerome

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Speaker 1: doesn't understand. We're not supposed to comment. We're not supposed

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Speaker 1: to suit your time. You say whatever you want.

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Speaker 6: But dang kg, I ain't never heard that.

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Speaker 4: Jerome is so angry. My god, it's all good.

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Speaker 6: I never heard him not liking his own race.

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Speaker 4: Rob g. You got anybody're trashing I'm trashing? Oh not me?

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Speaker 4: Oh you gonna trash me?

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Speaker 8: No trashing Brown GM Andrew Berry. Who wants to say

791
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Speaker 8: with a straight face that they don't know what their

792
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 8: quarterback situation is? Not moving forward in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 8: You got your QB one right there on the roster.

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Speaker 8: Should dor Levitiicut Sanders Junior? You mean Rob trash talk MESTYTG.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to come down Rob you over being

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Speaker 8: the meat out of me. I don't want to be

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00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 8: mad as you, but I have to Shador Sanders. All

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Speaker 8: he does is win games. He's like the Tim Tebow

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Speaker 8: of the Midwest. And for Andrew Berry try to say like,

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Speaker 8: oh well it's a quarterback. Got to evaluate all positions.

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Speaker 8: Maybe Deshaun might be factor in stoplining yourself. The future

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Speaker 8: is now in Cleveland. All right, thank you, Alex.

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Speaker 6: Rock one, Rob g from the IE or wherever you I.

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Speaker 5: Got one, guys reading, I want to trash Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 5: point in case I'm gonna start calling Monci Blanos the future.

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Speaker 5: Rob Parker, She's way ahead everybody else. He was not

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Speaker 5: quarterback enough to get the job done. And I mean

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Speaker 5: this when I say this. He has the team around him,

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Speaker 5: he had the coach to do it, and now he's

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Speaker 5: stuck wondering why he's gonna be like everybody else We've

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Speaker 5: talked about before him, that you could have been great,

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Speaker 5: but you just left there hoping you can get a

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Speaker 5: cheap steak.

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Speaker 4: Alex.

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Speaker 7: You're not allowed to do sports, remember you not? Because

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Speaker 7: we said you're not allowed to like that. Now we

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Speaker 7: can't do tyer. We're gonna have to mix it up. Now,

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Speaker 7: were you guys trashing? Who am I trashing today? I

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Speaker 7: don't think I have anybody trash off the off the

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Speaker 7: top of my head. Anything happened You want to give

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Speaker 7: a thumbs up to anybody?

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Speaker 4: No, I'm holding on to my thumbs Oh.

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Speaker 8: And real trash Matt Khalil for stealing his reputation that

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Speaker 8: he works so hard to build.

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Speaker 7: Actually I do trash. Oh wow, yeah, that's a whole

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Speaker 7: that's a how much time to have enough to trash?

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Speaker 7: I'm trashing rob G? What rob G is getting?

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Speaker 9: Care?

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Speaker 7: He took your thing and eat the sense, and he's

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Speaker 7: one up the sense. He's taking getting the free drink

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Speaker 7: thing or to another level. Stop going in there with

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Speaker 7: your little two week old cup and running in there

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Speaker 7: and getting you some free soda from some places.

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Speaker 4: You got a dollar eighty eight. Sick of it?

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Speaker 3: S