1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This is episode number two and 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: forty nine, and today in the show, we are breaking 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: down to successful rout hunts to hear about the ups 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: and downs, the good things, the bad things, the lessons learned, 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: and what we can all take from them to help 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: us on our own hunts coming up in these next 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. All right, welcome to the Wired to 11 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: Hunt podcast, brought to you by on X. And today 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: on the show, we have got myself, we have got 13 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: Dan nine fingers Johnson, we got my buddy Ross Hoss, 14 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: and um, we're supposed to have our friend Corey, but 15 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: he's he's right now playing hard to get He's he's 16 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: not responding to our phone call. So Corey may or 17 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: may not be with us at a later point in 18 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: this episode. But the basic reason why this crew is 19 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: here today is because we want to talk about rut 20 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: hunting success stories. Because Dan, you've got a success or 21 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: don't you? Yeah, I'm I'm pretty happy in a way 22 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: how everything turned out. Yes, yes, and Ross, You've got 23 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: a success story, don't you. Yeah, I got done pretty 24 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: pretty quick this year, which which was great, but I'm 25 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 1: kind of wishing I could spend a little more time 26 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: and staying with the book. Take. Yeah, that's kind of 27 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: kind of ridiculous how quickly you started and ended your season. Yeah, 28 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think I'll ever do that again. Man. 29 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: And um and I've got I've got a very interesting 30 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: set of RUTT stories too that I wanted to talk about. Um, 31 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't have the happy ending yet, but I still 32 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: think it's possible. So I figured that could be our 33 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: game plan. We can walk through our hunts that happened 34 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: over this past week. We all have some pretty interesting 35 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: things that happened, and I think we can learn some 36 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: things from those things too. So pull some lessons learned 37 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: out of each one of these success stories. Understanding what's 38 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: the setup that worked for you guys, Understanding how you 39 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: want about it, why you think you're successful. Um, I'm 40 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: thinking that should be a good way to kind of 41 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: help some other people get prepared for their upcoming RUT 42 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: hunts as we move into that second week in November. 43 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: Um So Dan I gotta, I gotta, I gotta go 44 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: to you first, because you have been playing the suspense 45 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: card so heavily over the last couple of days on 46 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: your Instagram story, Like you just made people wait and 47 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: wait and wait. Um, people just want to know the details. 48 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: So can you just walk us through your rutcation and 49 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: how the hell this all happened? And I tell you what, 50 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: it's been an absolute emotional roller coaster without sounding dumb. 51 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: I mean that's what That's what it's been, um, I 52 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: I mean, here's here's the very short story shot. A 53 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: buck took me two days to find him, had tons 54 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: of blood. It started graining lost lost the blood, and 55 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: and went back the next day after oh after ten 56 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: hours of looking for him. Uh two of those hours 57 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: were gritting in pouring rain. And then the next day 58 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: I go back to where I lost last blood with 59 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: another guy and he's laying right there. Wow, well my mind. 60 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: The whole the last twenty four hours or forty hours 61 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: has been a blur. Can we get the non short 62 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: story though? I mean, if we're gonna get just a 63 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: short story, the podcast is gonna be super short today, right, 64 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: So I mean, what do you want me? What do 65 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: you want to talk about the details of the strategy. Well, 66 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: let's first hear like what your how your rotation went 67 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: leading up to this, what you're thinking, how those first 68 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: few hunts went, and then and then let's deep dive 69 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: into that specific day, what the strategy was leading into it, 70 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: why you set up, while you set up there, and 71 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: then what actually happened. Let's do that Before that, they'll 72 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: want to take a quick second to thank our friends 73 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: at ONYX. And I'm actually right now as I'm recording 74 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: this on a white tailed deer hunt with Steve and 75 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: Yanni and the rest of the Meat Eater crew and ONYX. 76 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: The hunt app is something that I've been using on 77 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: this hunt, not only just to look at let's say 78 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: my aerial views of the property or the topographic lines 79 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: on the property, um, but also because you can save 80 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: way points and then you can take those way points 81 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: and then you can share them with other people. So 82 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: a situation that I'll probably be doing maybe later today 83 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: or tomorrow with Steve is rather than trying to say, hey, Steve, 84 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: go drive down this road, park at the big oat tree, 85 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: walk down the two track, turn left at the apple tree, 86 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: climb up the hill and then go out in this whale. 87 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: Rather than that, I can just text him away point 88 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: from my Onyx Hunt app. I can just share that 89 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: waypoint with him. He can click a link and it 90 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: pulls up on his phone, and then he able to 91 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: actually have that waypoint now right there in his hands. 92 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: He can walk right to it. It's a whole lot 93 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: easier than the original situation I described. So the Onyx 94 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 1: Hunt app is great for you as a solo hunter, 95 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: but it's also terrific if you're there with friends and 96 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: you want to share spots where you're gonna hunt, or 97 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: if you want to maybe say, hey, this is where 98 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: I got last blood, or this is where the deer 99 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: went down, or this is where I last saw the deer, 100 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: this is where I think you should go try to hunt, 101 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: or this is where the big scrape was, whatever it 102 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: might be. Being able to share those waypoints is a 103 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: really handy little tool to have. That's on top of 104 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: all the other things with the Onyx, Like I mentioned, 105 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: the great map views, the fact that you can measure distances, 106 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: you can measure areas, you can um do a whole 107 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: stlet of different things all right, from the convenience of 108 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: your mobile device. So if you're interested in trying it, 109 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: if you haven't yet tried, it would encourage you to do. 110 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: So you can go search for on X on whatever 111 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: mobile app store you'd like to use, or you can 112 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: go do on x maps dot com and if you 113 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: use more code wired, you can get off. That's w 114 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: I R E D for off. Yeah. Okay, So day 115 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: one of my vacation was this past Friday, and UM, 116 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: I went into a pinch point, uh, not not really 117 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: knowing what to expect because, like I mentioned on earlier podcasts, uh, 118 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, earlier this month or last late October, I 119 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: had nothing on trail camera that even excited me. You know, um, 120 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: there wasn't a ton of deer sign Uh. I checked 121 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: my trail cameras and just let me break this down 122 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: for you coon hunters, small deer coyotes, some random guy 123 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: walking through woods and other hunters. That's what was on 124 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: my trail cameras. So I didn't really I didn't. I 125 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: really didn't know what to expect. So on Friday, I 126 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: just go into a stand that was historically a uh 127 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: it's a inch point where there's decent trail camera pictures 128 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: in the past of deer kind of cruise in this area, 129 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: and I walk in there, I set up uh in 130 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: this pinch point. I see one dough cruise through pretty quickly. 131 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: This is uh what November two, And then about twenty 132 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: minutes later, here comes this three year old tin pointer 133 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: that I have trail camera pictures throughout the whole summer, 134 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: and uh he came, oh within fifty yards, i'd say, 135 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: of me on a different trail. Nothing that I was 136 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: really interested in at that time. UH got out, went 137 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: to Saturday morning. I went to a this basically it's 138 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: a travel corridor between food and bedding. They dropped down 139 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: off this ridge, come to a creek bottom and then 140 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: they kind of depending on the wind direction, they go 141 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: uh to the south on a they go to the 142 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,119 Speaker 1: south on a south wind. They go to the north 143 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: ridge on a north ridge on a north wind. And 144 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: I was hoping to catch them in this It's it's 145 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: almost like a pinch but it's more of a travel corridor. 146 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: And there's a big giant scrape that's worked over uh 147 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: and I have a trail camera over top of it. 148 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: So I said, I'm gonna hunt that stand in the morning. 149 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna check that trail camera. Right after 150 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: that hunt and I get in there, it starts to 151 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: be daylight. Um, I see I hear something kind of 152 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: running in the distance. UM, like, oh man, it might 153 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: be on tonight or this morning. And nothing shows up. 154 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: Nothing shows up, nothing shows up. I go uh. I 155 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,599 Speaker 1: finally put the horns together. I was like, man, I 156 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: want to see at least see something. So I rattle 157 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: and uh. Then it's just it's just like one four corns. 158 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: And then twenty minutes later it was like a fifty 159 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: three pointer, you know what I mean, Just like nothing, 160 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: nothing that really interested me, nothing to get me. I mean, 161 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm glad I saw dear, I'm glad that rattling work. 162 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: But I drove around the section. I was seeing dough groups. 163 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: Still nothing, you know, like there's something about a dog 164 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: group when it starts, maybe you start to see a 165 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: single dough or just we're fall only then you then 166 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: you know Mom is off with somebody, you know what 167 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: I mean. But I'm still seeing these big dog groups. 168 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: So Saturday morning, Uh, Saturday morning was really the my 169 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: And then went around and I checked more trail cameras 170 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: that I had nothing, And then it started to rain, 171 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: and so I didn't hunt. I didn't hunt. No, it 172 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: rained all during the day and then finally it stopped 173 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: raining long enough for me to this crazy wind. So 174 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: I went and hunted in a in a standing cornfield. 175 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: Uh saw a couple of bucks. And by the way, 176 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: which is hurting the property that I'm on, because that 177 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: cornfield that I still hunted in was loaded with deer. 178 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: And come to find out that a grain bend collapsed, 179 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: and like a grain bend collapsed, and another one in 180 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: the area went out of business, I guess. And the 181 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: farmers don't have any place to put these crops. So 182 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: there is a ton a ton of standing corn in 183 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: the area that I hunt, and standing crops period beans 184 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: as well. So to the west of my property is 185 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: standing beans, and to the east of the property is 186 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: standing corn, and there's no place for the farmers to 187 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: put it. They don't have room in their grain bends. 188 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: So and and the co ops don't have room either. 189 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: So this is not good for me, right, all of 190 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: the bad things that you know, as far as hunt 191 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: the rut is concerned. You don't want standing crops, You 192 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: don't want guys tune hunting your property. You don't want 193 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: guys four wheeling through it. You don't want other hunters there, 194 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: you don't want high you know, kyote numbers. So I 195 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: was getting a little stressed. Man. I was just like, 196 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, this sucks so and how many days did 197 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: you have a lotted Um, I'm not honestly scheduled to 198 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: go back until the nineteenth of November. Oh that's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. 199 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: So so Saturday morning happens, it rains, I can't drive 200 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: back to the main farm because it's just too muddy. 201 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: So I still I still hunt Saturday night. And then 202 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: the rain comes and it rained, and it's all day Sunday. 203 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: It rained and it rained and it rained and it poured. 204 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: So um, I had this feeling right because two years ago, 205 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: after the rain came, the I there's like a break 206 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: in the weather. The fronts pushed through. And I knew 207 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: that after and I'm not talking about just like a 208 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: couple of hours worth the showers. I'm talking about twelve, fourteen, 209 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: fifteen hours of solid rain. It's gonna wash away these 210 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: deer bedded down and all they're gonna want to do 211 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: after that is eat and make fresh sign And I 212 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: needed I couldn't get to the back of the farm 213 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: to where I wanted to go. So I was like, 214 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna try to use the standing 215 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: corn to my advantage because I want to see what's 216 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: coming in and out of the timber on this. Uh, 217 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, a part of the property that I are 218 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: very rarely hunt because, uh, it's just close to the road. 219 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: Typically when the crops are out it you can see 220 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: into this. It's it's pretty close to the road and 221 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: all these all these things just make this area not 222 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: good when the crops are out. But because they're standing corn, 223 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: there's this huge buffer. Now but between the road and 224 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: where um I eventually go in and uh, hang this 225 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: tree stand. So do you want me to get into 226 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: the actual the actual hut, Now, yeah, let's dive into it. Okay. 227 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: So here's how this works. Right, Imagine a imagine a 228 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: corn like a corn field, and it's just a big square. 229 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: Now take the and then of that square. It's made 230 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: up of four similar equal squares, and the top left 231 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: corner of that square is drainage off this field and 232 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: it's full of thorns and brush and just nastiness that 233 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: the deer so thick the deer don't even go in 234 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: there in bed because they can. It's just so many 235 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: thorns and whatnot. And half that into September. It's like 236 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: there's an old road that was there fifty sixty however, 237 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: many years ago, um that the farmers would use maybe 238 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: when this was all passed long long time ago. And 239 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: this too, it's like maybe enough for a four wheel 240 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: or now. And the the deer like to go through there. 241 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: They cut the corner and they kind of crossed the 242 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: drainage because there's that the road is there. It's like, 243 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: I don't even want to call it a road. It's 244 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: basically a terrain feature, if this makes sense. On the 245 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: opposite side of this really nasty thicket that nothing lives in, 246 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: that connects to the south to a fence line that 247 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: runs on the west side of this cornfield. And as 248 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: you know and everybody knows, sunlight on a fence row 249 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: that's bordering a timber, it's really thick from maybe the 250 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: field edge too, I don't know, twenty yards into the timber. 251 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: And what that does is it creates an edge on 252 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: the inside of the timber. So you have a field edge, 253 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: and then you have this like it's it's not im assable. 254 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: There's trails that run through it, but it's really thick. 255 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: And then outside of that, where the timber starts to 256 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: open up, there's trails that run along that, and there's 257 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: there was a rub and an old scrape. Right the 258 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: scrape was old because it was rain. I don't want 259 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: to stay old. I want to say it wasn't used. 260 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: Who knows how fresh the last time it was used, 261 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: because um, it had rain so much and I'm and 262 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: I had a southwest wind, so that wind was blowing 263 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: into the thicket and that terrain feature was just on 264 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: the outside of that thicket. So my my thought process 265 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: here was, I'm gonna set up in a tree to 266 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: where I can look down this ridge that leads up 267 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: to the cornfield and the draw the lower part. So 268 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: something comes up over the next draw or or comes 269 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: up the draw or comes from the next ridge. They're 270 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: gonna loop or round and they're gonna use this, uh, 271 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: this terrain feature because it's not gonna they may not 272 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: want to go into the cornfield yet, and sure enough, 273 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: man like this is when it gets So I set 274 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: up and from a strategy standpoint, a lot of people 275 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: like to hunt scrapes on field edges. I would have 276 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: never seen this deer if I was hunting a field edge. 277 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: He didn't. He was not interested in coming out to eat. 278 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: He wasn't interested in um. He was on a mission. 279 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: And so I get set up, you know, I tuck. 280 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: I text our buddy Ben Harshine, and I the sex 281 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: message says, I have a good feeling about tonight. Sent 282 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: that at three fourteen or something like that. Sitting down, 283 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's overcast. It's it's like one of those 284 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: days where you don't know why it's not raining because 285 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: the clouds above you make it look like it should 286 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: be raining. So it's dark. I mean, it's just really dark, 287 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: you know. And and it starts to rain again then, 288 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: so I'm like, oh, man, I don't want to get wet. 289 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: So I stand up, I turn around, I faced the tree, 290 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: and I start to put on my rain jacket. I 291 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: have one sleeve in my rain jacket, and I hear 292 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: a twig break behind me, and I'm like, man, there's 293 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: no squirrels out right now because everything's wet. It's raining, 294 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: it's raining. I look behind me. He's at twenty yards 295 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: looking right at my tree. And i instant I look 296 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: at him, and I instantly know who it is. Let's 297 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: go back to March. Remember, I had that really good 298 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: day of shed hunting and I found like nine sheds 299 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: and forty minutes all in this grass area of this field. 300 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: The big the biggest one that I found was this buck. 301 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: And he was last year he was he was an eight, 302 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: main frame eight with he had really good masks, mainframe 303 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: eight with a little crab claw out front. And and 304 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: this year his his left slide with a crab claw 305 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: blew up um. And the crazy part was I didn't 306 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: have very many I didn't have hardly any pictures of him. 307 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: I was always thinking about this buck because the shed 308 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: sits right next to my computers. It's one that I 309 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: pick up and hold all the time and you know, 310 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: fiddle with and um. So I honestly thought that that day, 311 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: Sunday night, if I'm gonna see this buck, it's gonna be. 312 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: It's probably gonna be tonight. And I don't know what 313 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 1: it was. Mark. Do you ever get a feeling like, man, 314 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: something's gonna happen tonight, like you don't you know some 315 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: and sometimes they happen and sometimes they don't. But this 316 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: particular this particular buck was on my mind, and it's 317 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: almost like I visualized him into existence. It was it was, 318 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: it was crazy. It was crazy. So anyway back to 319 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: the story, right, now we know who this buck is. 320 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: I identify him easily because now that crab claw is 321 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: a huge crab claw. He's like this massive, massive side 322 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: and he's walking. I can hear him walking right towards 323 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 1: my tree, and I'm like, oh my god, already, I'm 324 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: gonna screw up, right, I'm You've got your rain jacket 325 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: halfway on at this point, still too right right, one 326 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: arm in my rain jacket, and so I gotta get yeah, 327 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: right right. So I'm so he's walking right towards me. 328 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: You know, now he's at fifteen yards slowly I'm taking slowly. 329 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: I'm taking my rain jacket off, and I flipped the 330 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: seed of my lone wolf up and it's one of 331 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: those sticker seats, so I I actually have a shelf, 332 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: like a very small surface area where I lay in 333 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: my jacket down and now I'm facing the tree. My 334 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: bow holders to to my right, and I don't know 335 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: if this deer is going to go left or right, 336 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: because when he does go pick in the direction to go, 337 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: I have to make a move, and he starts to 338 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: go right. And that's good for me because all I 339 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: had to do was turned around and in one motion, 340 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: I clip in and I pulled my bow off the hangar. 341 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: And when I do that, I looked to my right 342 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 1: and he's at four yards I would say four or 343 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: five yards. I arranged it so it's it was four 344 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: yards from my stand and and he's and I just 345 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: see the big side walk right by me, and I'm 346 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: just like, man, I can't like if I move now, 347 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: I'm surely gonna get busted. I I probably looking back 348 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: on it now, I probably could have made more. I 349 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: could have done jumping jacks in the tree. And he 350 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: probably went to noticed me. He was on a mission. 351 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: And so so I see, I see him, he's coming 352 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: at me. Took my rein jacket off, I clipped in 353 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: and I draw back and as I draw back, he's 354 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: behind a branch, and I'm just like, no, son of 355 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: a gun, what am I gonna do? So I did 356 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: a squat in the in the tree stand so right, 357 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: pay it off right right. So I'm I'm squatting down 358 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: and my peep sites not lining up, so I had 359 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: to I had to pull my head back, realigned, get 360 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: my kisser button in, get set up. And there he is. 361 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: He's he's hard quartering away and and and I'm like, 362 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: I gotta opening. I settled my pen and I'm not. 363 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm not carried away, right, I'm not like. I don't 364 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: feel like I have buck fever at this point. Right, 365 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: I identified the buck. Right, I had to make sure 366 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: that everything was ready. I took a breath. I couldn't. 367 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: I couldn't get set backed up, took another breath, went in, 368 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: did my you know, I put my kisser button on 369 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: my lip, I put my string on my nose, you know, 370 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: check check anchored release, and you hear that. I don't know, 371 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: like you're punching meat, right, It's just a hard, hard, 372 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: good sounding connect. He mule kicks and then he takes 373 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: a hard right turn and he runs two steps and 374 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: he disappears behind the pine tree. And that was the 375 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: last time I saw him. He went. I put my 376 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: binoes up. I couldn't see where he went nothing, And 377 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh no, oh my god, I just 378 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: shot one of my hitless bucks. Right, And with that 379 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: mule kick. I was very confident in that shot, right, 380 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: I was just I was aiming for I was aiming 381 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: for a oh somewhere right between the the I don't know, 382 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: like the back rib in the front shoulder, which on 383 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: a hard quartering shots a very small target, you know 384 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah? And do you did did you 385 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: actually like where did you really aim at that? Because 386 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: I know in the past you and we both have 387 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: had situations where we you know, it just happened so fast. 388 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: And did you were able to slow down the moment 389 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: and be like actively choose exactly where you aim pick 390 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: that little spot or was it still a little bit 391 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: of a blurred blackout kind of like has been Ill 392 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: tell you what. It was clearer than any other time. 393 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: That's awesome, right, good? So I was I was clear. Now, 394 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: for those of everybody who you know, follows me on Instagram, 395 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: that's not how it ended, right. But so I called 396 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: my buddy Ryan and I'm like, dude, I just hit 397 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: this book. Blah blah blah blah blah. We start talking 398 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: over scenarios. Right, he was hard quartering towards um. We 399 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: started talking about, um, you know, okay, what if the 400 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: arrow were right? Yeah, hard quartering away right. I'm like, 401 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: I there's a part of me that there's this gut feeling, 402 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: the initial feeling that you get when you released the 403 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: arrow and it connects with the deer. My gut feeling 404 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: initially was dead deer, he's done, he's done. And and 405 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: I had a good feeling. I saw the mule kick. Uh. 406 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: He took off running like you know, like deer do 407 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: when they get shot by arrows. And I was very confident. 408 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: Called my wife, called my buddy, Um Ryan. We went 409 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: over scenarios, um and I waited forty five minutes in 410 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: the tree. I said to myself, okay, man, go down, 411 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: check in the side of impact, look for the arrow. 412 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: And there's you know, and there's that's what you're gonna do. 413 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna slow down, You're gonna take all 414 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: the proper steps. I tear down all my stuff out 415 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: of the tree. I set it down at the base 416 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 1: of the tree. Walk over white hair and I'm like, 417 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: oh boy, because white hair means belly, means inside leg 418 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: means a whole bunch of things that are not a 419 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: good shot, right, and and so there's no blood of impact. 420 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: I do kind of a ten yard, I said, I'm 421 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna look for blood for ten more yards 422 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: because in the past I've had deer double lungs, even 423 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: where they don't start leaking until they get a bound 424 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: or two out. So I'm like, Okay, well, I'm gonna 425 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: look for ten more yards. If I don't find deer, 426 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: I'm backing out the entire night. I don't care this 427 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: This buck is big enough to where an old enough 428 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: and a hitless buck. I'm going to give him as 429 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: much time to die as he needs um and and 430 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: I back out. And if you've ever waited twenty four 431 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: hours for a for a deer, you know that that's 432 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: when the doubt starts to creep in, Right, That's when 433 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: all these crazy things start to you know, like all 434 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: the craziness starts to happen, and your mind starts playing 435 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: tricks on you, and and you're like, dude, you shot 436 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: that deer in the neck, that's where there's white. Dude, 437 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: you shot that deer on the inside leg, you know, 438 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: or you know all these things. So like I feel 439 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: like I'm doing a lot of talking here, but this 440 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: is the story, right, I mean that from from from 441 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: the I know. I know. So from the moment I 442 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: saw him to the moment I released an arrow was 443 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, somewhere about twenty to thirty seconds, he 444 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: pops up. He's walking over a ridge at a good clip. 445 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: I didn't have to stop him. He stopped. He looked 446 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: like kind of behind him, but up the ridge a 447 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: little more and I let him have it. Twenty four hours, right, 448 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm talking about like getting dogs. And 449 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: it's funny. Ross actually contacted me because I made a 450 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: post on Facebook or on Instagram and Ross is like, dude, 451 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: you can't use a dog because dogs are illegal in 452 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: Iowa to use to track deer. Ross houstin you here 453 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: in the yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah. So he's 454 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: telling me because I made a post. I'm like, damn, man, 455 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: I want to use a dog. And he comes back 456 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: and he's like, dude, you can't use a dog. It's illegal, 457 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, ah, you kidding me. Law, that 458 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: is a stupid law. But I guess in the past 459 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: some people have taken advantage of it. And it's like, hey, 460 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: I'm tracking a deer. Yeah, the deer is still alive. Right, 461 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: You're tracking it with four other dogs through the woods. 462 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: You know. Anyway, so in the doubt creeps in. I'm 463 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: trying to get a rally of people to maybe come 464 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: help me. And you know, it's the rut. All my 465 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: buddies are hunting, so they at least want to do 466 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 1: the morning hunt and then come out with me. And 467 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: uh so I wait for a while, um, and then 468 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm just like, dude. My initial reaction was, was I 469 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: slammed it? Right? That a dead deer? And so I 470 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: go back. I go back to the side of the impact. 471 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm I'm looking up at the tree, looking at the angles. 472 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: I'm actually at this point, I'm trying to find my arrows. 473 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: See where my arrows at, See where my arrows that 474 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: find arrow? No arrow? I'm like, okay, the arrow is 475 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: still in this deer. At this point, I walk about 476 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: forty yards from the stand. Oh my god, there's drop 477 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: of blood. He's bleeding, right, And that right there is 478 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: the start of it. Right that that for me was 479 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: like this, a little bit of sigh. And every step 480 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: exactly every step I took after that, oh blood, blood, blood, 481 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: A little bit of blood, blood, blood, big blood, big blood. 482 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: And at this you know when you you get that 483 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: first big gusher pile, you're like, oh yes, dead dear, confidence, confidence, confidence, 484 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: You're built. And I'm so this happened, Mark, This is 485 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: no joke. This happened. This amount of blood for go down, 486 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: go down down the ridge, down into the valley. You know, 487 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: this is almost really close to where you found the 488 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyan shed. Actually okay, yeah, exactly, yea. So how 489 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: it all drops down into the spot and and so 490 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: so it's blood, blood, blood, blood, more blood, blood, lots 491 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: of blood. And it's one of those blood trails where 492 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,479 Speaker 1: you're walking through the timber following it. You don't need 493 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: to bend over, you don't need to get on your 494 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: hands and knees that much blood. Right, So he goes down, 495 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: he crosses a little bit of a dry creek. Bed 496 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: comes back up, blood following it. Blood, and all of 497 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: a sudden, the blood. I get to a spot where 498 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: the blood is just it stops, it shut off, and 499 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is not good. So I start to 500 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: do what everybody, you know, what you're supposed to do, Mark, 501 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: last blood and you start doing your circles, right, you 502 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: you go out five ft, look, go out six ft looks, 503 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, ten ft look nothing. Nothing. And then I'm like, okay, 504 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: let's see how hurt this deer is. So I go 505 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: up the up the ridge, the nearest ridge, and I 506 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: find blood. So, now what he's done is he's walked. 507 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: He's walked away from where he got shot. If he 508 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: jay hooks back up an opposite ridge, and now he's 509 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: walking in a hundred and eighty degrees in opposite direction 510 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: from where where he's at. Right, blood, blood, blood, I 511 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: find a bed. I'm like, he laid down, he's hurt. 512 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: Walk up the trail. A little bit. More blood, blood, blood, 513 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: there's another bed. He's hurt bad, right, he's hurt bad. 514 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm the next over this next ridge. I'm gonna find him. Blood. Blood. 515 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: Now the blood starts to slow down a little bit. 516 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: All right, blood is starting to slow down, And I'm 517 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: you should see me right now. I'm I'm telling you 518 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: this story, and I'm pacing in my mom's guest bedroom 519 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: like reacting all all this. But uh, it starts to 520 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: go to a drop right and then and then and 521 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: then I get to a four wheeler trail and I'm like, 522 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: oh boy, so and so, now this four wheeler trail 523 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: leads to a road, and if he crosses this road, 524 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: oh boy, we got a whole another problem. So at 525 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: this time I'm up top. I call my buddy, another buddy. 526 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: He's he's actually gonna help me. H. He gets out 527 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: of the tree, he comes help me look for this 528 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: deer um. And as she's driving to where I'm at, 529 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: I find another drop of blood in a in a field. 530 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: So what he's done is he's now he's got off 531 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: the floor with her trail. He crossed through this very 532 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: like seven eight ft thicket that goes to the fence line. 533 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: He jumps the fence, he walks this field edge down 534 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: ten yards, jumps back in the timber. So now he's 535 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: double back. He's double backing again. So this is where 536 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: my buddy comes in. And now that the blood is 537 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: getting a little bit less and a little bit less 538 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: and a little bit less. Uh, and we're having to 539 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: slow down the track. Job we find another bed and 540 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 1: I'm looking at this and it looks like he only 541 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: only half of them laid down right, like this is 542 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: not a full bed, but there's blood all over on 543 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: in the inside. And now and at this time I'm like, man, 544 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: this deer is going to bleed to death. Why haven't 545 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: we found him yet? This is after twenty four hours. 546 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: Oh no, i'd I'd say about twelve hours, because I 547 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: shot him at about four and by the time my 548 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: buddy joined me was ten the next morning. Eighteen hours. 549 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: Eighteen hours, right, And so we dropped down off this 550 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: ridge again and we're heading right back to the original 551 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: blood trail, and sure enough, he crosses the blood trail. 552 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: So now we don't know if we're following his original 553 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: track or the second time he's come through the area. 554 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: So so I had to mark with my arrow where 555 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: this where this deer crosses crosses the path of the 556 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: original blood trail, and then we so he goes one 557 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: direction up this one drainage. I dropped down to this 558 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: uh other little dry creek bed and I see a 559 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: track and I'm like, oh, that's him. That's gotta be 560 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: at a big footprint. I'm walking this strike creek bed. 561 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: I'm following these big set of tracks. I look up 562 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: on the side of the creek bed and there's more blood. 563 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: He popped up out of this creek bed and he's 564 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: now back on dry land or he's back on land 565 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: and as he did that, he started to bleed again. 566 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: Blood blood, blood, blood, blood, blood, blood stop. Blood starts 567 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: going uphill. And I'm not talking a little bit a 568 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: little bit of incline. I'm talking like one of those 569 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: big inclines, Like, Okay, if this deer went up this, 570 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: he's not hurt as bad as I thought he was. Right, 571 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: this is an insane track job. Yes, this, it's this. 572 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 1: The track job is the story of this book. It's 573 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: not the it's not the thirty seconds I saw him, 574 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: It's not the shed shed Taylor. The story of this 575 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: book happens after I shoot him, and and this is 576 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,479 Speaker 1: how much I respect these animals. After this, his will 577 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: to live was so strong that he was doing everything 578 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: he possibly could to avoid being detected. And and kind 579 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: of fast forwarding a little bit, he goes up, he 580 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: comes straight back down, and as he's coming down, he 581 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: goes to a creek bed. We lose blood. And this 582 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,959 Speaker 1: is like the biggest time frame from when we lost 583 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 1: blood to when we found blood. It was about fifteen minutes. 584 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: And I started griding ridge at this one ridge, going 585 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: up to a betting area, and and now and now 586 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh man, what did he do. He 587 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: went all the way up this ridge and just to 588 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: go right back down the steep side again, back to 589 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: a drainage. It's almost like he knew he was being 590 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: going to be tracked, and he knew that that someone 591 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: was going to try to follow him, and he needed 592 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: to make that track job the most difficult. It's almost 593 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: like he knew what he was doing, you know what 594 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: I mean. Then I find a big chunk of fat. 595 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, you don't get that. You don't 596 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: get that from just a rear end shot. Let's say, 597 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: if you you shot him in the hind quarter right, 598 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: there's guts in play here. So this deer, I know 599 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna die. It's just a matter of finding game. 600 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: So I'm looking for this blood. I'm looking for this blood, 601 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I hear my buddy, and 602 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have ever had this 603 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 1: happen where you're looking for a deer and you don't 604 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: find blood. You can't find blood, but you hear a 605 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 1: buddy go blood, and I oh, dude. It's like when 606 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: Mario eats a mushroom and he's like whoooooooo and he 607 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: goes he's faster now, you know, like he can go, 608 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: He's ready to go, and I was just like I 609 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: needed that energy. Followed blood sixty more yards and it 610 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: started to rain, and my heart just was like we 611 00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: didn't find any more blood. So I'm like, all right, buddy, 612 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to do. Look like I 613 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: wanted to help my buddy out. He gave up his 614 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 1: afternoon hunt for me. I took him to a local diner. 615 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: We ate lunch, and uh, we parted our ways. I 616 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: came back out to the farm and I started gritting 617 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: ridges in the pouring rain. It's just pouring, and I'm 618 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm going through the thickest, nastiest stuff I could find, 619 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: and I'm just like I have to, Like I was 620 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: on a mission, like I had blinders on. All I 621 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: wanted to do was find this deer. And then and 622 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: then it started getting dark, and every second more doubt 623 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: creeped in, and more doubt creeped in, and more doubt 624 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 1: creeped in, and I was getting frustrated. I was angry 625 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: at myself. I was I don't know, there's all these 626 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: emotions that were going through I just shot the one 627 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 1: of the biggest bucks I've ever drew back on. Right, 628 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: this is probably the third biggest deer I've ever drew 629 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: back on. And he's a five year old. I have 630 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: history with him, all these things, and now the doubts 631 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: creeping in, Like, dud, you just wounded him. He's gonna 632 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: get eaten alive by coyotes. It's like you have this 633 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: little voice in your head calling you a dipshit, you 634 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I go home and have 635 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 1: a couple of glasses of whiskey, you know what I mean, 636 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: like just just to calm down. And I didn't sleep that, 637 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 1: you know, very good that night again. And and so 638 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: my stepdad gets a text message from one of his 639 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: buddies who's a follower of the Nine Fingers, and he's like, hey, man, 640 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: if Dan needs help, I'll help him out. And uh, 641 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I'll take anybody I can get. I'll 642 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: take a blind guy right now. I don't care. So 643 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: he shows up at seven thirty in the morning. I'm like, 644 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: hey man, I really appreciate this. Let's go. I'll kind 645 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: of I'm this. I got three more ridges that I 646 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: need to grid. And if he makes it past this, 647 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:11,439 Speaker 1: this fourth ridge he's gonna live. Like that was my goal, 648 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: Like I had this. I think it was two acres 649 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 1: that I wanted us to grid and if I didn't, like, 650 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: I wanted to search this area after blood and I 651 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: was shed hunting. I was basically shed hunting at this point, right, 652 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 1: And I said, I got these two more ridges or 653 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: three more ridges, I want to go check and then 654 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: after that if we don't find him nothing. So we 655 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: start on Ridge one and I'm working down looking through 656 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: all this these tree tops from when the loggers came through. Um, 657 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: he's up top looking in some thick betting area. I 658 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 1: go down. I pop over top of the ridge and 659 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm working my way back up towards him and I 660 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 1: say and he signed, He's like no, I said, yeah, 661 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: I mean either. I look at him, and I said, 662 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: all right, how about I key down to where we 663 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: lost last blood and I will um, and what I'm 664 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: gonna do is that way you'll be able to see 665 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: the lay of the land better. Uh, you'll get an 666 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,919 Speaker 1: idea of what this deer already did. And I'll walk 667 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: you through. And he's like, yeah, it's a good idea. 668 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: We started walking down this ridge, I thought my eyes 669 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: were screwing with me, Dude, This deer is laying where 670 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: I was standing the previous day where we lost blood 671 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: and it started to rain. He was laying dead, literally 672 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: where I was standing. Literally, Mark. This deer didn't die 673 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: on that next day. He died after I left the 674 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: timber the the that day. So he he he was 675 00:40:54,360 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 1: still alive at some point for thirty hours or so 676 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: after I shot him, and and he and he was 677 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: do I know what this deer was doing? Man, He 678 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: was in a position to where he was wounded bad. 679 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: He knew he needed to find a good wind, good betting. 680 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: And he watched me come off that ridge on that 681 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: blood sherald the next morning. I bet he was. He was. 682 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: He was watching us from some position. He was watching 683 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: us track his track him. And as we left that 684 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 1: final day that on of all days, my birthday, I 685 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: didn't find him. He came back into the area. He 686 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: didn't want to cross the road. He probably didn't know 687 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: that area. He didn't want to go to the south. 688 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: He probably he felt comfortable in this area, so he was. 689 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: He was okay with making loops because he was able 690 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: to see see us here, us smell us coming through 691 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: the timber and he was always one ridge ahead of us, 692 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: and I I lost my mind, dude, I just got emotional, right, 693 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: I was like, are you kidding me? This is crazy. 694 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: I can't believe like I was. I was like acting 695 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: like a little kid, like I don't know I was. 696 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,479 Speaker 1: It's the greatest feeling in the world, dude. I've lost 697 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: two deer in my in my day that we're giants, right, 698 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: shipwreck and then another booner that didn't pan out, And 699 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: luckily those two deer were alive. And the whole time 700 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about this, this is one of those moments 701 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 1: where you're happy you found him, but at the same time, 702 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,479 Speaker 1: you know, dude, you know this dear suffered. This wasn't 703 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: a clean kill. This wasn't the kind of kill that 704 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: we hope for. This is one of those This is 705 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: one of those kills that's that nobody talks about. This 706 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: is the this is a kind of kill that the 707 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 1: deer probably could barely lay down because the arrow was 708 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: still in him. You know, the the violence of hunting 709 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 1: come it kind of came out, you know what I mean. Yeah, 710 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: the unfortunate, the very unfortunate occasional. Yeah, the reality was 711 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,959 Speaker 1: that this dear did not go out easy, and that 712 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 1: made me enjoy this moment in a different way because 713 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: although I am glad that I found this dear and 714 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: I was able to recover him, and he's gonna go 715 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 1: on my wall and I'm gonna be able to share 716 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: this story with my children and all the people who 717 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: asked me, at the same time, I didn't accomplish a goal, 718 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: and that's to make a quick, clean kill on an animal. 719 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: And in the moment, you know, you go back and 720 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: I have this moment where I'm like, should I pull 721 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: the trigger? And the killer and me as we kill animals, right, 722 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: the predator in me said do it? And I did it, 723 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: and I killed the animal. I got him. But it's 724 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: not the way I wanted it to be. So as 725 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 1: equally as happy, I don't even know how to say this. 726 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: I am, I am. I'm equally happy on two sides. 727 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,399 Speaker 1: One I'm equal I'm happy that I found the deer. 728 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 1: I'm equally unhappy that how he died, and I'm unhappy 729 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 1: that I'm not going to be able to use the meat, 730 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: and I'm unhappy that he suffered and that it took 731 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: so long. But this is a reality. This is the 732 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: reality of hunting that sometimes they're not all double lung shots. Man, 733 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: they don't all die within range. And it sucked to 734 00:44:55,640 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 1: know that. Um, and it's bittersweet. Yeah, don't the there 735 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: is a certain contingency of the hunting world who to 736 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: this would say. And then they've said that. I had 737 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 1: someone send me a message saying this to me because 738 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: I had a somewhat similar situation to you with my 739 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 1: Nebraska buck. I had to wait till the next day 740 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 1: to find him because the shot was at quarter and 741 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: shot was a little bit back. UM said that you 742 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: shouldn't bow hunt if this, If if you hit a 743 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,959 Speaker 1: buck like that, you should you should quit. Bow Hunting 744 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: is not efficient. It's not um as effective as as 745 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 1: a as a rifle or something like that. And so 746 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: for that reason, you should not bow hunt. How do 747 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: you or I how how do we respond to something 748 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: like that? How do you respond to something like that? 749 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: I mean, what's the if you told me Dan you 750 00:45:54,600 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: couldn't bow hunt anymore, you might as well take my arms. Yeah, Oh, 751 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: I just I don't know, man, that's ah, someone told me. 752 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm getting emotional, man, it's part 753 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 1: of me. Uh, it's it's my definition. Yeah, yeah, I 754 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 1: hear you. Man this, I I understand what you're feeling. 755 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: And I think and I think, if I imagine similar 756 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 1: to kind of the thoughts and feelings I had after 757 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: Nebraska Hunt. It's one of those things that what you 758 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 1: went through, what happened, right, there's nothing you can do 759 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 1: now to change what happened, right, what happened happened. But 760 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 1: what you can do is is while we do understand, 761 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: and I said this just last week, that is a 762 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: bow hunter, You're never going to be perfect no matter 763 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,439 Speaker 1: what you do. There's there's so many things that happen 764 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 1: that are outside of your control. But you can always 765 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: strive to be more perfect. Right, So I imagine that you, 766 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,319 Speaker 1: just like I, trying to find ways how can I 767 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: keep it getting better? How can I try to minimize 768 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: the potential for errors again in the future. What I mean, right, 769 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 1: that's all we can do as a bow owner is 770 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 1: constantly striving to to to improve, to get better, to 771 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: become more effective. Um. But and here's what I'll here's 772 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:33,280 Speaker 1: what I'll say. I've never loved nature more, I've never 773 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 1: this is this is the debate internally that, dude. I 774 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: love nature, I love animals, that's it's it goes hand 775 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 1: in hand. But as a bow hunter, I honor this 776 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 1: animal by killing it. And that's hard for some people 777 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 1: to digest. That ultimate paradox exactly, and knowing that this 778 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: dear suffered it broke my heart. Man. But at the 779 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 1: same time, I'm okay, I'm I'm tough enough and okay 780 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 1: with that because I accepted the reality of bow hunting 781 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: that it is not sometimes like you said, perfect yeah, man, 782 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 1: that's um, it's yeah, it's it's you know, when I 783 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,240 Speaker 1: got that comment, that message to me, it really pissed 784 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: me off. Um, But at the same time, you know, 785 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,720 Speaker 1: it's it is a huge responsibility that we're taking upon 786 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 1: ourselves when we say that we're gonna go out there 787 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 1: and we're gonna chase an animal using this tool that 788 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 1: inherently is difficult, inherently is a challenge, and that's part 789 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 1: of why we love it, right. That's why bow hunting 790 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: is so That's why it's so kind of all encompassing 791 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,839 Speaker 1: because it requires so much of you. It requires such 792 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 1: a level of competency and tension to detail and um, 793 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,399 Speaker 1: it's not something you just pick up and take off 794 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: and go do like you have to put your heart 795 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 1: and soul into it. Um yea. But what And that's 796 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 1: why I'm so tore up about it is because I 797 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,319 Speaker 1: did put my heart and soul into it. I did 798 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: do all the work to make it as clean and 799 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: as possible. But the outcome just happens. Dude, Tom Brady 800 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,399 Speaker 1: loses football games sometimes, right the no matter how much 801 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: practice stuff, ship goes wrong. And this is where the 802 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 1: and and this happened to me, And dude, I hope 803 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 1: no one ever feels the way that you know. I 804 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,800 Speaker 1: hope every shots you know, a double long heart shot. 805 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: I wish, but it doesn't happen. And you take it, 806 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 1: you move on, you learn from it, you try to 807 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: take away something from it. And I'll tell you what 808 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: I learned. I learned so much from this, Like may 809 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: be what I should have done different, maybe what I 810 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 1: could do better next time, but also what deer do 811 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 1: when they're hit bad? Right where I need to look, 812 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 1: what what they're what they're thinking when they're when they're 813 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 1: wounded like this, So we're we're what was the shot? 814 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: Describe where where it came out? And this is this 815 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 1: is probably gonna be like dude, but let me tell i'll. 816 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 1: First off, I want to tell you this. I was 817 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: shooting my elk arrow, right heavy arrow, and uh. Not 818 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: only did it have a heavy arrow, but it was 819 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: a fixed blade. I do not feel that I would 820 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 1: have found this deer if I had a mechanical broadhead. Okay, However, 821 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: fixed blade, you know, not a lot of momentum loss 822 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:49,399 Speaker 1: on impact. I went through the hind quarter, I went 823 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 1: into his into his guts, up through like his stomach, 824 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: and I hit his liver and the arrow exited out 825 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: of his brisket. So the entire wound channel was the 826 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 1: length of the arrow when I when I found him, 827 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 1: I found the Uh. I found the back half of 828 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 1: the arrow in the side of him. So on this 829 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:24,920 Speaker 1: hard quartering shot right, it was on this hard on 830 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 1: the hard quartering shot, even a little miss to the 831 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 1: right was a was a big miss, you know what 832 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 1: I mean. However, my equipment saved me. Right. My equipment 833 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 1: went from him going off and dying in me never 834 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 1: recovering to him, to causing the right amount of damage too. 835 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 1: Luckily I was able to find him. Okay, So in retrospect, 836 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,400 Speaker 1: now looking back on it. Do you think where do 837 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 1: you think the error was? Was the error in the 838 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 1: fact that you chose to take that shot? Did you 839 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 1: just maybe you shouldn't have or was the error in 840 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 1: the execution of the shot? Or was there no error 841 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 1: and just bad luck? That's something happened. Have you, like, 842 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 1: have you tried it in any way put a finger 843 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 1: on what maybe was what happened? Or is it just 844 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a combination of all those things. Right. 845 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 1: I probably should have turned her. I should have taken 846 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 1: more time to look at his body language. Maybe he 847 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 1: wasn't going to bust me. Maybe I had time to 848 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 1: turn around and shoot him out four yards broadside. Maybe 849 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 1: I should have let him walk by, and you know, hey, 850 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,400 Speaker 1: he's he's he'd maybe respond really good to a grunt. 851 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 1: He was up winged to me when I shot him, 852 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 1: So let him walk hit him with a grunt. He 853 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 1: comes back right. Maybe I could have done that. But 854 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 1: if Sinan's man, you, I can't do that. I mean, 855 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,360 Speaker 1: this is what happened. Next time, I might be a 856 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,360 Speaker 1: little more patient. Maybe I'll I don't know, And I 857 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 1: guess that's that's that's the more importantly what I what 858 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get I guess is what's what's the 859 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: takeaway from this for you? I suppose Yeah, I mean 860 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 1: I don't know because I feel this is gonna sound bad, 861 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:21,320 Speaker 1: but I feel like I would take that shot again. Um. 862 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:28,799 Speaker 1: I was calm, I was collective. I I missed the target, right. Um. 863 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,759 Speaker 1: What is the goal when you go out into the 864 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 1: timber to hunt a deer? Right to kill it? I 865 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 1: killed it, not the way I wanted, but I killed it. Um. 866 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,879 Speaker 1: And if you kind of you go all the way 867 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,919 Speaker 1: down to the common denominator of what I mean, it's 868 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 1: not what hunting is, but hunting is taking the life 869 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: of an animal. I recovered him. I just didn't do 870 00:53:55,560 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 1: it in time to save the meat. And that's that. 871 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 1: That to me is the biggest disappointment. Yeah. Yeah, man, Well, 872 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 1: I mean you you know, I mean you certainly have 873 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 1: felt the fields you've you uh you. I'm sure I 874 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,839 Speaker 1: have learned something from this, and it's gonna change you 875 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 1: and it's gonna make you a better hunter in the future. 876 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 1: And um, at the same time, while like you've you've 877 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 1: you've identified some things that went wrong, some things that 878 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,919 Speaker 1: lad to less than perfect outcomes. Um, what I think 879 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 1: is really really admirable. And I think that anyone listening 880 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 1: to this or who followed along with a story from 881 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 1: afar Um, I think you set a tremendous example of 882 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:47,280 Speaker 1: just the that the commitment you had to finding this animal, 883 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people would have given up a lot sooner. 884 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,279 Speaker 1: And I think is it's it's so commendable. It's so 885 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,879 Speaker 1: important that people do this, because this is the kind 886 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 1: of deer that a lot of folks would be like. Mah. 887 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 1: You know, even after a couple of times when you 888 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 1: mentioned you lost blood for fifteen minutes, some people bowl 889 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 1: after that, let alone after it starts to rain, you 890 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 1: lose blood. I know people that would quit after that 891 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 1: after walking around all day. But you kept going at it, 892 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 1: and two days later you found that buck that would 893 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 1: have gone completely to waste. Um would never have known 894 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 1: what would happened in that case, but at least you 895 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 1: were able to recover them because you kept after it. 896 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 1: And you can you can take something and learn from 897 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 1: from this experience. And I think that's um, that's a 898 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 1: that's a great thing. And I think a great example. 899 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,879 Speaker 1: You sat there, damn so and something thing about it 900 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 1: is yeah, and The thing about it is I would 901 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 1: have done the same thing for a dough. Right. You 902 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,480 Speaker 1: have to the animal that you're taking a life and 903 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 1: they deserve everything, So I don't know, they're the one 904 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 1: who's there. The animal is the one who pays the 905 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 1: ultimate sacrifice. Yeah, um, this is this is a good 906 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 1: This is a this is a really great even though 907 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,320 Speaker 1: even though there's a lot of unfortunate elements to what happened, 908 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 1: which you've already you know, you've talked about. Um, it 909 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 1: is a powerful learning experience. I think that everyone listening 910 00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 1: can kind of take from this that I think is 911 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 1: a helpful thing to people because I know many times 912 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 1: in the past when you or I have had some 913 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 1: stories that didn't go quite as perfect. Sometimes those are 914 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,759 Speaker 1: the most helpful for other people because they need to 915 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 1: know that, yeah, you know, sometimes these things do happen, 916 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's it's it's not it's not okay, 917 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 1: and that you we don't want to happen. You don't 918 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 1: want to happen again. But sometimes bad things happen despite 919 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 1: all the work and effort and time, and you need 920 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 1: to there's something to be said about understanding that, yes, 921 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 1: these things happen. We can move on from it, we 922 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 1: can get better from it. And I think, um, you 923 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 1: honestly sharing this story is is is a great thing 924 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 1: for people. So I appreciate that Dan um Ross's been 925 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 1: really quiet over there. What do you have any questions 926 00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 1: or thoughts on all this with Dan, because I know 927 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: you've kind of had some kind of similar experiences over 928 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,799 Speaker 1: your years too, Right. Oh yeah, I've had a lot of, 929 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 1: I mean situations that kind of played out the same way. 930 00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 1: But I think the only way, really, the only way 931 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,480 Speaker 1: you get better at it is just by I mean, 932 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 1: you can practice all you want and trying to make 933 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,919 Speaker 1: it like automatic, but you just you gotta shoot deer 934 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,640 Speaker 1: to get better at it, you know what I mean. 935 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 1: And and so like one of the things I was 936 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 1: thinking about when Dan was talking is is like if 937 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 1: anybody hasn't shot a lot of deer, and then they're 938 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,680 Speaker 1: kind of like they're kind of like our buddy Peters, 939 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 1: kind of having that trouble where they're a little nervous 940 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 1: to shoot deer. Um, shooting deer is just you're gonna 941 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 1: get better if you shoot more deer. So I'd like 942 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 1: I'd focused on shooting a lot of doughs, um, eating 943 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 1: a lot of doughs and getting better at that so 944 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 1: that you know, when a big buckets in front of you, 945 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 1: you can you can make a count. I know I've 946 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 1: had a a couple of mix ups and a couple 947 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 1: of bad shots, and um, I've lost a couple of 948 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 1: deer um, sometimes just because I got probably just got 949 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 1: a little buck fever um. Another time maybe miss judge yard. 950 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 1: But it's really hard to mimic those situations like on 951 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 1: a range and and just shooting that targets. So just 952 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,240 Speaker 1: getting yourself in those situations and and shooting deer will 953 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,280 Speaker 1: make you a better hunter. So don't don't beat yourself 954 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,840 Speaker 1: up too bad over you know bad shots are losing 955 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,479 Speaker 1: deer because it's gonna happen to everybody, and it's gonna 956 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 1: make it better over the long run. But um, I 957 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 1: know it's made me a better hunter. I've become more 958 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 1: conscious of all my weaknesses and and when I have 959 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,640 Speaker 1: to work on. But I know I did struggle with 960 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 1: that in the past. I know what I what's that 961 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 1: go ahead of us? I was just gonna say, like, 962 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,240 Speaker 1: I do a good job getting myself in front of deer, 963 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,439 Speaker 1: but the moment of truth has always been a little 964 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 1: bit of a struggle for me. But just yeah, all 965 00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 1: those mess ups just they make it better over over, 966 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 1: over the long run. You can't beat yourself up over it. 967 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,400 Speaker 1: You're going to be a better hunter because of all 968 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:09,640 Speaker 1: the situations. Yeah, and you know, you can keep in 969 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 1: perspective and you can. You know, you want to feel 970 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 1: bad for the deer and you want to respect the 971 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 1: deer and everything, but it is and it's part of it, 972 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 1: and ultimately we're out there until deer or so there's 973 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 1: some bad things that can happen. But but um, you 974 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,400 Speaker 1: don't beat yourself off too bad, you know, Yeah, yeah, 975 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: you do. You do everything you can to minimize the 976 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 1: chances of those things. You work as harder as it 977 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,760 Speaker 1: possibly can, and then sometimes you accept the realities that 978 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 1: aren't always perfect and you grow from it. Um, but 979 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 1: you make it really good. It's a it's a horrible thing. 980 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,400 Speaker 1: I've lost a lot of sleep over some some of 981 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 1: those years. It's terrible feeling, and you feel horrible before 982 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 1: the deer and you feel just terrible about the situation 983 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 1: and about the YouTube from it. Yeah, right, yeah, pretty much. 984 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:04,439 Speaker 1: But what you're to find on the map. Um, I'm sorry, Ross, 985 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 1: that too soon to start throwing the under the bus 986 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 1: of that one. Yeah, right, man, Um, he would see 987 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,080 Speaker 1: he was he was thirty two yards and I saw 988 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 1: he was twenty five. That was the whole problem with that, 989 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 1: And that could beat myself up for so long. But 990 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 1: you know, like just sway when it way goes, and yeah, 991 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:25,959 Speaker 1: next time, I'm going to make sure that I don't 992 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,240 Speaker 1: I don't make that mistake. And that's the thing I'm 993 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 1: sure that you know. Next time you're in a a situation 994 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,439 Speaker 1: like that, Ross, you you're better had better stud to handle. 995 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 1: And Dan, next time you're in a situation like this 996 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 1: where it's a fast moment, you gotta like heavily quartering away, Dear, 997 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 1: you'll have you'll better know how to handle that situation. Um. 998 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,479 Speaker 1: Same thing like for me when I've got a buck 999 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 1: coming in right towards me and then he opens up 1000 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,720 Speaker 1: a little bit. I think my issue with that, Nebraska, Dear, 1001 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,080 Speaker 1: is very similar to your situation, except for yours was 1002 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 1: it was quickly you thought you're gonna lose your shot 1003 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 1: opportunity because he's quartering away and mine was quartering too sharply, 1004 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 1: and I was worried I was gonna lose my shot opportunity, 1005 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 1: so I probably should have waited one more beat and 1006 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 1: I didn't. And um, you know, these are these are 1007 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:13,120 Speaker 1: learning experiences. So all the things I've some things that 1008 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:17,000 Speaker 1: I've learned to um over time, as you know, like 1009 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 1: you said to, you evolved as a hunter. Like initially 1010 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 1: start off, you just feel like you gotta shoot deer. 1011 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,480 Speaker 1: You gotta shoot gear and deers there, you gotta shoot it. 1012 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 1: And then eventually it's evolved if you start shooting dear 1013 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,120 Speaker 1: and you don't really have to shoot gear anymore, you know. 1014 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 1: And so when you get in those situations where you 1015 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 1: gotta make quick shot or you gotta make tough shot, 1016 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 1: you can just you can just wait for something better, 1017 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:39,920 Speaker 1: you know. But when you're younger, you seem to like 1018 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,000 Speaker 1: go through that phase where you want to just shoot, shoot, 1019 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 1: shoot and take the first shot, take quick shot. You 1020 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 1: don't really think it through. Um, But I think that's 1021 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,680 Speaker 1: just part of all part of growing. We all get 1022 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 1: there at different different points and their hunting careers. But 1023 01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,439 Speaker 1: but I think eventually you get to a point where 1024 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, you just you don't even have to take 1025 01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,920 Speaker 1: those shots. If they're not They're not going to be right. 1026 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 1: And that takes that takes a lot of a lot 1027 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 1: of self control too, to know when when you can't 1028 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 1: take those shots, because to your point, there's a lot 1029 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 1: of pressure to when you when you're when it's in 1030 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,880 Speaker 1: the window, when it's in range, there's a lot of 1031 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,040 Speaker 1: pressure on you with all the time and energy that's 1032 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,640 Speaker 1: gone into trying to get to this one moment. I 1033 01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 1: certainly have found myself in that situation where I look 1034 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 1: back on something, I'm like, man, did I Maybe I 1035 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 1: shouldn't have even taken the shot, But in that moment, 1036 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 1: it's I gotta get the shot. Um. That takes a 1037 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 1: lot of probably maturity and experience and some hard lessons 1038 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 1: learned along the way probably to to you know, for 1039 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 1: each of us at different points in our lives, to 1040 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,040 Speaker 1: get to that point where there is a deer in 1041 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,760 Speaker 1: range and you just know that it's not it's not 1042 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 1: the right opportunity. That that's not easy. It's easier said 1043 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:55,200 Speaker 1: than done. Um, Dan, I know you probably have to 1044 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 1: leave here pretty soon, right, um, real fast? Do you 1045 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,640 Speaker 1: have a second to to share it? One last thing 1046 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to know is just we focus a lot 1047 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,080 Speaker 1: on what happened after the shot, But is there anything 1048 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 1: about your setup or anything that you think led to 1049 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:11,960 Speaker 1: you actually getting that opportunity. Why do you think you 1050 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 1: got the shot at this buck? Um I got I 1051 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 1: got the shot at this book. I'm this is gonna 1052 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:25,920 Speaker 1: sound crazy. I'm almost sure he walked through my windstream, 1053 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 1: my my downwind cent stream to get to me. Um. 1054 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,920 Speaker 1: So that terrain feature that I've mentioned earlier, my wind 1055 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,880 Speaker 1: was just cutting that right and he came from that direction. 1056 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 1: I think that he I think the wind shifted. I 1057 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:45,800 Speaker 1: think he walked through it um at some point, which 1058 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 1: it shouldn't have It probably shouldn't have played out like that. 1059 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,320 Speaker 1: You know, there's a chance he could have busted me. 1060 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 1: But what I'm getting at is that's how aggressive I 1061 01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:01,200 Speaker 1: was with the wind that night. Was Hey man, there's 1062 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 1: a chance if this isn't gonna work, this deer comes 1063 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,040 Speaker 1: in a little too far to one direction, he could 1064 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:12,120 Speaker 1: he could bust me. And that's how aggressive I played 1065 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,960 Speaker 1: the wind. That's how aggressive I play my stand location 1066 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:21,560 Speaker 1: set up right, I mean, my goal is your goal 1067 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:25,280 Speaker 1: is to always make the deer feel like they are 1068 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,640 Speaker 1: confident in their their path and you're there to not 1069 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:34,200 Speaker 1: you're you're there to just you know, you're you're there 1070 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:39,000 Speaker 1: to surprise him. And that was the only deer I saw. 1071 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:40,880 Speaker 1: He was the only deer I saw that night here. 1072 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: And what was he doing? Was he just cruising this 1073 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 1: this kind of ridge system deal, do you think? Yeah, yep, 1074 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,760 Speaker 1: I think he came out of his bed on the 1075 01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 1: next ridge over um at the end of it, I 1076 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 1: think he walked down that first ridge, dropped down into 1077 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 1: that terrain feature and it was just gonna send check 1078 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:03,600 Speaker 1: that the ridge that um I was on, and then 1079 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,040 Speaker 1: dropped down into another one and crossed the road and 1080 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:11,240 Speaker 1: go into a cornfield. So he wasn't he wasn't there 1081 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,560 Speaker 1: to eat, he wasn't there to make signed. He was 1082 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 1: there to straight up you know, he was looking for 1083 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:25,000 Speaker 1: those interesting Well that's um the heck of a buck man. 1084 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 1: That's one of your biggest bucks or your biggest buck ever. Right, Yeah, 1085 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, if I was gonna, if I was to 1086 01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,880 Speaker 1: ever score him, I'm sure the bigger than anything I've 1087 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:38,800 Speaker 1: ever ever had. So as a beautiful deer, it's a 1088 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,520 Speaker 1: well deserved deer. And um man, I'm happy for you, 1089 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:46,360 Speaker 1: glad that you ended up find him. Yeah, I appreciate it. Man. 1090 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,560 Speaker 1: Now you got some work to do. I do. I 1091 01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,320 Speaker 1: do have some work to do, um, And I want 1092 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,280 Speaker 1: to I want to tell you the story of of 1093 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,480 Speaker 1: how close I've been getting to it, but you you 1094 01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,680 Speaker 1: probably don't have time to hear it. Um. Do you 1095 01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:03,600 Speaker 1: need to bounced now? I do, man, Unfortunately, I apologize. 1096 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,320 Speaker 1: That's all right, me and Russ will continue the conversation. 1097 01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:11,920 Speaker 1: All right, Well, Congraturross and Mark. Good luck Man. I no, 1098 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,960 Speaker 1: no one's rooting harder for you. Man. I appreciate it, buddy. 1099 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,080 Speaker 1: We'll talk soon, all right. Before we move on to 1100 01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,080 Speaker 1: stories from Ross, let's take a quick second to thank 1101 01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,640 Speaker 1: our partners at White Tailed Properties and Spencer will take 1102 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,840 Speaker 1: it from here. This week with White Tail Properties, we 1103 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:32,080 Speaker 1: were drawed by Ben harshein adland specialist out of Iowa, 1104 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:33,800 Speaker 1: and Ben is going to be talking to us about 1105 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 1: using aerial maps for hunting the rut. Yeah. So the 1106 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:43,520 Speaker 1: maps play a vital tool for rut strategy. I really 1107 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,560 Speaker 1: want to find a map that's gonna show me elevation 1108 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,240 Speaker 1: and topography and uh, that's important because I want to 1109 01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,320 Speaker 1: be able to hunt rolling topography during the rut. I 1110 01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,160 Speaker 1: also want to be able to use it to access 1111 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,920 Speaker 1: in and out during you know, whether it's morning, uh, 1112 01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,160 Speaker 1: late morning, early after or noon going in to cover. 1113 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,520 Speaker 1: I'm hunting cover during the route. I'm not hunting food sources, 1114 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,880 Speaker 1: so I want to find some topography. I also want 1115 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,000 Speaker 1: to try to find the most secluded parts of the farm. 1116 01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,600 Speaker 1: What are the toughest places to get to just from walking? 1117 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,960 Speaker 1: What seemed like they're the safest from human intrusion. I'm 1118 01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 1: trying to find little ditches and draws that don't stick 1119 01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 1: out blatantly, aren't is easy to get to, like maybe 1120 01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 1: that big hardwood ridge that runs through. Try to find 1121 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,600 Speaker 1: those small nooks and crannies, deeper holes, and then uh 1122 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,400 Speaker 1: one thing that the map won't necessarily tell you what 1123 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,320 Speaker 1: you can do. How Once you confirm some of those places, 1124 01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,160 Speaker 1: try to find the thickest stuff and then just uh 1125 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 1: uh do a speed scout. Try to find those where 1126 01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 1: those trails are coming together in that thick cover, Get 1127 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,240 Speaker 1: in the tree and just hold on tight. If you'd 1128 01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,120 Speaker 1: like to learn more and to see the properties that 1129 01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,440 Speaker 1: Ben currently has listed for sale, visit white tail properties 1130 01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:57,960 Speaker 1: dot com. Backslash Hardshine that's h A R s h 1131 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:04,040 Speaker 1: y n E. So so ross um, let's continue this 1132 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:10,400 Speaker 1: and let's hear your story because you, um, you kill 1133 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,320 Speaker 1: a hell of buck too. I'm interested to hear. I 1134 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,960 Speaker 1: haven't really gotten the details of how all came together yet, 1135 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,559 Speaker 1: So walk us through, kind of similar to how what 1136 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,799 Speaker 1: Dan did you know? Walk us through your rut hunting 1137 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,920 Speaker 1: plans and then how this hunt came together. And I 1138 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,680 Speaker 1: know that when I say rutting plans and hunts, it's 1139 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:30,680 Speaker 1: all very limited, very small amount of time here. Maybe 1140 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:34,439 Speaker 1: explain why that is too. Your whole season has been unique? 1141 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,639 Speaker 1: What what do you What do you want me to say? First? 1142 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,280 Speaker 1: I just said, you know, describe the whole your whole plan, 1143 01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:51,320 Speaker 1: because you've been very very conservative. Yeah, I just um, 1144 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,360 Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, I didn't have like too 1145 01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,280 Speaker 1: many books. Like early in the season, I need to know. 1146 01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,120 Speaker 1: I need to know there's a buck there. I need 1147 01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,439 Speaker 1: to be confident, like when I get in the tree, 1148 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,120 Speaker 1: I need to know. I need to be confident that 1149 01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill something, you know, Like I'm just not 1150 01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,360 Speaker 1: I'm not excited about sitting in a tree and not 1151 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,439 Speaker 1: knowing and I could get a shot off anymore. I 1152 01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,439 Speaker 1: guess I'm just I'm just okay, waiting for the right 1153 01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,320 Speaker 1: time now. I don't know, it's just kind of gotten 1154 01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:22,160 Speaker 1: to that point. So this early in the season, I 1155 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 1: just didn't have any big bucks located. I didn't have 1156 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 1: anything else too excited about, So I just kind of 1157 01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,200 Speaker 1: put hunting on for a while until I knew a 1158 01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:32,880 Speaker 1: couple of the areas that it was hunting, we're going 1159 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,320 Speaker 1: to get a little bit better. So I didn't really 1160 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:40,720 Speaker 1: get out until the first time I got out was um, 1161 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,280 Speaker 1: I think like the middle of October and all you 1162 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:47,840 Speaker 1: know around that fifteen sixteen seventeen somewhere in there. Um. 1163 01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,120 Speaker 1: But that hunt lasted maybe like ten minutes, I think. 1164 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:55,559 Speaker 1: So it was in I'll tell you so it was 1165 01:09:55,600 --> 01:10:00,599 Speaker 1: in the There's this area farm that like a there's 1166 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:04,720 Speaker 1: this big, huge community scrape every year in middle of October. 1167 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,680 Speaker 1: I think I've told you this before. There's mature bucks 1168 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,759 Speaker 1: that will hit that during daylight starting middle of October, 1169 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:15,400 Speaker 1: and you might get you should will generally get like 1170 01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,320 Speaker 1: every single mature buck on that scrape at least once. 1171 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:23,240 Speaker 1: So middle of October they start hitting it. Um, and 1172 01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,559 Speaker 1: that's scrape. That's down in it's down this valley, and 1173 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,559 Speaker 1: then there's there's a bunch of like ridges and points 1174 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,120 Speaker 1: that come down to that scrape. So you couldn't probably 1175 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,760 Speaker 1: call it like a it's probably like a thermal hub 1176 01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:41,000 Speaker 1: kind of area. I feel so um especially in the evening, 1177 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,479 Speaker 1: like all those thermals everything is dropping down and everything's 1178 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,920 Speaker 1: just dumping right into that area where that scrape is 1179 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:52,800 Speaker 1: so um so like so that the first day it 1180 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,760 Speaker 1: was a kind of like I know exactly what my 1181 01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,719 Speaker 1: problem is. And I've always tried to hunt that scrape 1182 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 1: specifically and have screwed myself so many times because you 1183 01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,400 Speaker 1: just you just can't hunt it. And I thought, I 1184 01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 1: tried to think of so many different ways to be 1185 01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:09,920 Speaker 1: able to hunt the wind and and to be able 1186 01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:11,680 Speaker 1: to get in there and not have gears and all 1187 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,760 Speaker 1: you or not have your wind swirl and all this, 1188 01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:19,000 Speaker 1: and I've got busted so many times. And uh, and 1189 01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:20,679 Speaker 1: this year was the last time I was gonna even 1190 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna mess around going down that scrape. I 1191 01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,400 Speaker 1: think what I need to do, and they need to 1192 01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:28,280 Speaker 1: focus on just obviously dear coming to and coming to 1193 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,200 Speaker 1: a scrape and and leaving the scrape versus hunting that 1194 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:34,360 Speaker 1: script specifically, because that first time I went down there 1195 01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,120 Speaker 1: in the morning and the wind was kind of sketchy. 1196 01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,960 Speaker 1: It was kind of that light, variable wind, and then 1197 01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,760 Speaker 1: I think I have a stand up down there. I 1198 01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:45,800 Speaker 1: decided not to sitting that stand because I thought I 1199 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,560 Speaker 1: would get busted. Instead, I just said to put a 1200 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,719 Speaker 1: gilly suit on and go suck up in some rocks. 1201 01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,840 Speaker 1: And I don't know, it was probably it was probably 1202 01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:57,960 Speaker 1: the first fifteen minutes of light. And the doe came 1203 01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,400 Speaker 1: walking down and I could like that light breeze in 1204 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,400 Speaker 1: my face, you know, and I thought everything was fine. 1205 01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:05,559 Speaker 1: But she's sitting there like a hundred yards away from 1206 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:09,280 Speaker 1: me what I thought was up wind, and she's just 1207 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,960 Speaker 1: snorting and starting and starting. So I just pretty much 1208 01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,200 Speaker 1: I just pretty much got out of there as fast 1209 01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,000 Speaker 1: I could. It wasn't even like sun didn't even come 1210 01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:17,519 Speaker 1: up yet. I just like packed up and I just 1211 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:21,559 Speaker 1: pretty much ran out of there. But so that's that's 1212 01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,920 Speaker 1: what that's where I screwed up. And I think I'm 1213 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:25,799 Speaker 1: never gonna do that. I'm not gonna hunt that anymore. 1214 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm done with that. I've tried so much 1215 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,800 Speaker 1: and uh, so many times. So then the next time 1216 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:37,640 Speaker 1: I hunted was that next week, and um, I went 1217 01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,719 Speaker 1: to a different farm and they just picked a corn. 1218 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,240 Speaker 1: There's a bunch of waste and it's next to a 1219 01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:46,320 Speaker 1: pretty good piece of property where there's some really nice 1220 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,840 Speaker 1: bucks in there. So I thought, I'll go in there 1221 01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:50,880 Speaker 1: and I'll check the finger where they like to come out, 1222 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:52,880 Speaker 1: and I'll look for some big tracks and she will 1223 01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,760 Speaker 1: kind of sign I can find. Um, I'll just do 1224 01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,519 Speaker 1: like a hanging hunt. So we're getting a lot of 1225 01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,719 Speaker 1: those really light winds, which is weird fall, just lots 1226 01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:06,120 Speaker 1: of light rayable winds, and I just wasn't feeling good 1227 01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,120 Speaker 1: about the wind there. I thought it would just kind 1228 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:12,400 Speaker 1: of I didn't think it would be my favorite. It 1229 01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,280 Speaker 1: was the right direction, but the way the current probably 1230 01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,040 Speaker 1: would have been thermals and all that stuff I think 1231 01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:18,800 Speaker 1: would have just dumped right down into where you were 1232 01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,720 Speaker 1: going or coming from. So built on that and then 1233 01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:26,320 Speaker 1: I was wanted to hunt that scrape again, um, given 1234 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,200 Speaker 1: the time of here, because this is the twenty seven now, 1235 01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,400 Speaker 1: and I knew, okay, I'm not going down by the scrape. 1236 01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,840 Speaker 1: So instead I got up on one of the ridges. 1237 01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's probably about other than fifty yards 1238 01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:43,000 Speaker 1: from the scrape, but it overlooks that valley. So in 1239 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:44,479 Speaker 1: this position at least I can have a wind a 1240 01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,160 Speaker 1: little bit more consistent, but I can actually see what's 1241 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,080 Speaker 1: going on down there. I can observe and and then 1242 01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,479 Speaker 1: it's also on the inside corner where I can catch 1243 01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:57,320 Speaker 1: some some movements. So there's still bedding down the point 1244 01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:01,280 Speaker 1: down all those little ridge points on the bluffs overlooking 1245 01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:05,840 Speaker 1: the creek, all kind of within a few hundred yards 1246 01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,920 Speaker 1: of this strap. Um. So I'm sitting there off this 1247 01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:14,080 Speaker 1: one corner, and right away I had like a dink 1248 01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,799 Speaker 1: come through, and and then maybe a couple of dolls, 1249 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:19,760 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, a nice, nice eight 1250 01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,600 Speaker 1: pointer comes comes up that valley and he's just like 1251 01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,519 Speaker 1: bird dog and he's got his nose to the ground 1252 01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:29,040 Speaker 1: and pretty nice buck, but not one I wanted to shoot, 1253 01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:33,200 Speaker 1: probably like a three year old, um nice buck. And 1254 01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,160 Speaker 1: then he kind of went off, and I thought, oh, 1255 01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:36,840 Speaker 1: maybe it'll be a pretty decent nights. He kind of 1256 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,920 Speaker 1: came from the stripes. I'm assuming he hit it, and 1257 01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,280 Speaker 1: then um, then later on he kind of came back 1258 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:43,880 Speaker 1: through and I was like, oh, that's kind of cool. 1259 01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:49,880 Speaker 1: He's really working. And then as light faded, um has 1260 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:54,400 Speaker 1: lfe started fade, you could hear that like unmistakable, like 1261 01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,280 Speaker 1: walking over mature buck, you know when you see you here, 1262 01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:58,800 Speaker 1: like can you hear like a doll walk through the 1263 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,439 Speaker 1: woods and you can hear just like that crunch, crunch, crunch. 1264 01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,759 Speaker 1: But when I Buck walks and he's walking with purpose, 1265 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,360 Speaker 1: it's just like, I mistake cool, you know what that 1266 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm buck where? Yeah, I mean it's 1267 01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,040 Speaker 1: almost it's almost like it's almost like it's making the 1268 01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,120 Speaker 1: ground shake, you know, like he takes the ground shaking, 1269 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,960 Speaker 1: and it feels like that, and it's the way a way, 1270 01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:18,960 Speaker 1: you know, you just know he's just walking with purpose. 1271 01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,760 Speaker 1: And he's coming he's coming down, and he's coming down 1272 01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,920 Speaker 1: to the valley and and I'm like, I just said 1273 01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:28,160 Speaker 1: to myself, man, that's a good one. I just knew 1274 01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,600 Speaker 1: that that's gotta be a big one. And all of 1275 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:35,479 Speaker 1: a sudden pops out and and I see him and 1276 01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm looking at him and trying to of course, I 1277 01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:41,719 Speaker 1: forgot my binoculars, which kind of hate that with a heaven, 1278 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:43,360 Speaker 1: so I couldn't tell what the heck he was, because 1279 01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,280 Speaker 1: it's kind of like that sunsetting kind of getting a 1280 01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,960 Speaker 1: little less light. The tree is hard to tell, you know, 1281 01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,400 Speaker 1: it's so hard to judge raxis when you get to 1282 01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,599 Speaker 1: that point. So I'm looking a him and I can 1283 01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,880 Speaker 1: see it right away. I can see his boys. It's like, oh, man, 1284 01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:59,120 Speaker 1: this bucket is this buck is huge. But then as 1285 01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:02,040 Speaker 1: I got a glimpse of his rack, I'm like, I 1286 01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,400 Speaker 1: don't know, he kind of looked similar to that other book, 1287 01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,920 Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, he's big. So I'm just staring 1288 01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,080 Speaker 1: at him and he's down there and just I don't 1289 01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:11,559 Speaker 1: know what he's doing down there, and I'm just like, 1290 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,960 Speaker 1: maybe I should just grunt him and see what see 1291 01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,880 Speaker 1: if I can get a better look at him. So 1292 01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,400 Speaker 1: I grunted him two times, and that thing just he 1293 01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,800 Speaker 1: just turned and walked right up the ridge right to 1294 01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:24,400 Speaker 1: the tree. I mean, like, how often does that happen 1295 01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,760 Speaker 1: with the mature book? And it was ridiculous, And he 1296 01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,760 Speaker 1: just walks straight up and he's coming up towards me, 1297 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,040 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at it. I'm looking at I'm trying 1298 01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,000 Speaker 1: to like go through all these bucks that they have 1299 01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,559 Speaker 1: gotten pictures of and trying to figure out who it 1300 01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,920 Speaker 1: is and all this stuff, and he's coming up and 1301 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:41,519 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, it's not that one. No, it's not 1302 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,000 Speaker 1: this one. And I'm like, nah, I'm not going to 1303 01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,680 Speaker 1: shoot him. So I'm sitting there and just sitting the 1304 01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,960 Speaker 1: stand and even I wasn't even like ready to shoot 1305 01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,040 Speaker 1: a gear right and uh, because they already rode him off. 1306 01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not gonna shoot And the next thing 1307 01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, that buck is standing like six yards in 1308 01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,519 Speaker 1: front of me broadside and I'm looking and I'm like, 1309 01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:06,200 Speaker 1: oh my god, that thing is huge and his body 1310 01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:07,920 Speaker 1: not his rack as much, you know, I'm like, oh 1311 01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:11,360 Speaker 1: my god, that he's huge. I wish I wish I 1312 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,080 Speaker 1: could like to hear your inner voice through this whole 1313 01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,040 Speaker 1: thing as you were sitting there thinking to this, because 1314 01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:20,120 Speaker 1: I can just imagine like the the neurotic Ross hawsman 1315 01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:26,320 Speaker 1: in the back of here mind going crazy at this moment. Dude. 1316 01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,120 Speaker 1: It was, it was. It was crazy. Just caught me 1317 01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:29,160 Speaker 1: up hard and I was like, no, im I can 1318 01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:33,320 Speaker 1: shoot him. And he's there and like I'm gonna shoot him. 1319 01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,880 Speaker 1: And there's so many things that went through my like 1320 01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,720 Speaker 1: my brain processed it so fast. It was like it 1321 01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:39,080 Speaker 1: was like next thing, you know, I just let an 1322 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:43,400 Speaker 1: aeroflies and I shot, you know, like, but what happened 1323 01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,280 Speaker 1: is he he uh, he's staying there. I could just 1324 01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:48,080 Speaker 1: see that big like square. No, it was a big 1325 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,760 Speaker 1: Roman nose and I mean just huge head on him, 1326 01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,680 Speaker 1: a big body. And then at that point, like I 1327 01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:57,040 Speaker 1: didn't even think about rack or anything like that, because 1328 01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:58,800 Speaker 1: my goal for the year was just like I want 1329 01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,160 Speaker 1: to shoot a once some short year, or I want 1330 01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,280 Speaker 1: to shoot like a like I want to shoot like 1331 01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,880 Speaker 1: one fifty year bigger or like a big mature buck. 1332 01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,320 Speaker 1: You know, I really want Actually this year, I really 1333 01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:12,040 Speaker 1: wanted to hold out for something big and just try 1334 01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:17,040 Speaker 1: to eat my take for once this because he's so colossal. 1335 01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,600 Speaker 1: What's that I said, You're not good at that? I 1336 01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:22,760 Speaker 1: know him that this thing was huge. I feel like 1337 01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,120 Speaker 1: I feel like every single year you always say, all right, 1338 01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:26,720 Speaker 1: I want to hold out for a really big one, 1339 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:28,559 Speaker 1: and then it gets to be like November one or 1340 01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,679 Speaker 1: second or somewhere there, and you start stressing out because 1341 01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:32,559 Speaker 1: you haven't killed something yet, and then like the first 1342 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:36,640 Speaker 1: decent buffts body shoot that is That is how that 1343 01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,240 Speaker 1: is how I've progressed, but now I'm actually getting their market. 1344 01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm getting there. I'm getting to the point where I 1345 01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:45,120 Speaker 1: can eat take this this time. You don't even wait 1346 01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:49,160 Speaker 1: till November though. No, I know, I'm really kicking myself 1347 01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:53,840 Speaker 1: now that that I'm done. But but he he just 1348 01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,519 Speaker 1: stood he stood there, and I didn't know my I 1349 01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:58,280 Speaker 1: was sitting. He's sitting right in front of me, like 1350 01:18:58,320 --> 01:18:59,880 Speaker 1: you seeing the R in front of me, broadside him, 1351 01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:01,640 Speaker 1: I think, just facing him, you know. So it's like 1352 01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:05,120 Speaker 1: the most awkward position to try to draw and shoot 1353 01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,400 Speaker 1: right there. So I waited for him. He took a 1354 01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:10,000 Speaker 1: couple of steps and then I just kind of tried 1355 01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,439 Speaker 1: to do that little bit of slight turn when I 1356 01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:16,200 Speaker 1: was sitting to get in position to draw, and he 1357 01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,479 Speaker 1: just got a little spooky because so calm, like you 1358 01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:22,880 Speaker 1: could um, you could hear anything, and it was just 1359 01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,559 Speaker 1: so calm, and he just did that like where he 1360 01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,280 Speaker 1: gets alarmed and they spin and they take off the run. 1361 01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,240 Speaker 1: So next thing, you know, I'm drawing as he's doing that, 1362 01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,439 Speaker 1: and I just mouthed grunted at him. And the second 1363 01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:37,519 Speaker 1: craziest thing this buck did was he not only did 1364 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,080 Speaker 1: he come straight to the tree from a grunt call, 1365 01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:40,760 Speaker 1: but he stopped when I tried to put my mouth 1366 01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,719 Speaker 1: grunted at him when he was taking off running, he stopped, 1367 01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,360 Speaker 1: and then that's when I shot him. So so then 1368 01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:51,240 Speaker 1: I hit him right away. The shadow was like, it 1369 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,640 Speaker 1: was like good, good hit, And you're watching him and 1370 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:55,800 Speaker 1: he's taken off and you just wait for him tip over. 1371 01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,320 Speaker 1: He got down to the bottom and he just stopped 1372 01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,559 Speaker 1: and then he walked, and then then I couldn't see 1373 01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,360 Speaker 1: him anymore, and I didn't hear crash or anything, So 1374 01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,000 Speaker 1: I was like, what the heck with Once the deal, 1375 01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,280 Speaker 1: I thought I hit him good. And then then like 1376 01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,960 Speaker 1: Dan was talking and he started thinking about all doubting 1377 01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:13,920 Speaker 1: yourself and think about all the other things that could 1378 01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,360 Speaker 1: have happened, and I was like, well, maybe I hit 1379 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,000 Speaker 1: him in the liver and I hit him back a 1380 01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,680 Speaker 1: little too far. Um, So I'm just like, you know what, 1381 01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,479 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let him go and I'm just gonna 1382 01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,640 Speaker 1: come in the morning and find them. And so I 1383 01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,519 Speaker 1: long story short, I had a sleepless night. I think 1384 01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,680 Speaker 1: I slept like forty five minutes. And then you're off 1385 01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,160 Speaker 1: checking your phone. It's like eleven o'clock being it, and 1386 01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,000 Speaker 1: then you're you know, you're sleeping on the thirty minutes 1387 01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,560 Speaker 1: to check your phone at one o'clock and uh, the 1388 01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:40,880 Speaker 1: next thing you know, I'm up at like three in 1389 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:45,120 Speaker 1: the morning drinking coffee waiting for white and uh. And 1390 01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,400 Speaker 1: so I buzz out there in the morning and I 1391 01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:50,080 Speaker 1: get there right at first light, and I went to 1392 01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:53,120 Speaker 1: climb up the stand to get kind of like an idea, okay, 1393 01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:54,920 Speaker 1: where I hit him and then where he ran two against. 1394 01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:56,760 Speaker 1: I could get picked out some spots a where last 1395 01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,719 Speaker 1: saw And as I was climbing, it's climbing the tree, 1396 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,559 Speaker 1: I could see him laying down there. So he just 1397 01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,760 Speaker 1: he uh, he tipped over right away down there. I 1398 01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,200 Speaker 1: just kind of got a little apprehensive when I saw 1399 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,679 Speaker 1: him stop and walk a little bit. But it turns 1400 01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,559 Speaker 1: out I did double along on. There was no big deal. Um, 1401 01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:17,919 Speaker 1: and he's laying down there, and he's just my biggest, 1402 01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,759 Speaker 1: saddest buckets I've ever shot by a by a long 1403 01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:25,439 Speaker 1: by a long shot. How old do you think. I 1404 01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:28,120 Speaker 1: don't know for sure. He's one of those bucks where 1405 01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:29,800 Speaker 1: I had pictures of him over the years, you know, 1406 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:34,080 Speaker 1: but I just never really paid too much attention to him, 1407 01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:37,760 Speaker 1: and he never really had a gigantic rack and it 1408 01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:41,960 Speaker 1: stayed about the same size. So then, um, I had 1409 01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,080 Speaker 1: pictures of him. I just got rid of the pictures. 1410 01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,680 Speaker 1: I never saved him. And then he just showed up 1411 01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:50,439 Speaker 1: within that last week. And then it wasn't until after 1412 01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,040 Speaker 1: I walked up, I got up to him that I 1413 01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,640 Speaker 1: recognized him. And he probably stayed about the same like 1414 01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,360 Speaker 1: probably stayed about like that same like hundred thirty frame 1415 01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:02,679 Speaker 1: size the last several years. So if I had to guess, 1416 01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:06,160 Speaker 1: I would say he's I would guess him at like 1417 01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,840 Speaker 1: six or more. But I'm not sure that's pretty. I 1418 01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:12,479 Speaker 1: was saying about getting the teeth, Yeah, I know it was. 1419 01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:17,639 Speaker 1: That's why I shot him. So but man, it's a bummer. 1420 01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:21,519 Speaker 1: I h I really want to be out sit in 1421 01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,240 Speaker 1: the stands. I'm gonna have to still some Doe TEGs 1422 01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:27,519 Speaker 1: and enjoy watching some of the books from from the stand. Yeah, 1423 01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,040 Speaker 1: so what, um, what did you end up? What did 1424 01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:34,599 Speaker 1: you Wayne? I don't know him. I don't know Mark 1425 01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,360 Speaker 1: because I never so stupid, I never weighed him. You know, 1426 01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:41,280 Speaker 1: you're getting getting in that where you just like got 1427 01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:43,040 Speaker 1: him and you clean them off and then you're cutting 1428 01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:44,439 Speaker 1: them up and then next thing you know, he didn't 1429 01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:50,200 Speaker 1: weigh him, but I have no idea. I just shut 1430 01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,240 Speaker 1: bocks it like that two palm mark quite a bit. 1431 01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:57,000 Speaker 1: But then but this one like was significantly larger than 1432 01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:00,160 Speaker 1: one of my buddies. He he cuts up at the 1433 01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:03,280 Speaker 1: deer or has got a tremendous amount of deer, and 1434 01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:05,599 Speaker 1: he thought he would probably trust maybe like too forty 1435 01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:07,519 Speaker 1: just by a picture. So I don't know if that 1436 01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:11,840 Speaker 1: if that is what he was or whatnot, or if 1437 01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:13,760 Speaker 1: he was more or less or whatnot. But he he 1438 01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:18,920 Speaker 1: was huge, So yeah, that's cool, just a cool mature buck. Yeah, 1439 01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,360 Speaker 1: I would I would definitely agree with that. And what 1440 01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:23,720 Speaker 1: do you think when you're looking back on that, you know, 1441 01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,200 Speaker 1: why why did that work out the way it worked out? 1442 01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:29,120 Speaker 1: Was there something about like why was the location you 1443 01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:32,360 Speaker 1: were in or any other decision you made the right one? 1444 01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:38,840 Speaker 1: You know it? Historically I just knew what the bucks 1445 01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,800 Speaker 1: did in that area just from what I've learned observed 1446 01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:46,320 Speaker 1: in the past. Um, but I think the biggest takeaway 1447 01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:52,160 Speaker 1: from me is just to not just to avoid hunting 1448 01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,960 Speaker 1: that bottom, like just because that's strange there, and just 1449 01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:56,880 Speaker 1: because that's where the bucks hit it. That's not the 1450 01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:00,240 Speaker 1: best spot, you know, and the wind and stuff like 1451 01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:04,559 Speaker 1: that down there. I gotta just get better at picking 1452 01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:08,920 Speaker 1: the spot based on um, you know, hunting the wind, 1453 01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,599 Speaker 1: a little bit better with that with those kinds of areas, 1454 01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:13,640 Speaker 1: because one of those things where you just like, you 1455 01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:15,760 Speaker 1: see the bucks there all the time, get pictures of 1456 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,280 Speaker 1: the bucks there all the time. You know they're there, 1457 01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:18,720 Speaker 1: So that's where you want to hunt. But it's not 1458 01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:22,639 Speaker 1: the smartest thing in the right If you can't knowing 1459 01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:27,000 Speaker 1: that you're there, there's no point. Yeah, And I could end. 1460 01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,559 Speaker 1: For the last several years, I've been trying and trying 1461 01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,320 Speaker 1: and trying to figure out and like testing wind and 1462 01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:35,240 Speaker 1: throw a milk lead and you know, trying different spots 1463 01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,720 Speaker 1: and I can't. I can't make it happen. But that's 1464 01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,720 Speaker 1: the reason why they love it down there, you know. 1465 01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:45,919 Speaker 1: So so I think, um kind of reassessing, like hunting 1466 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:49,080 Speaker 1: those areas where they come and go to that straight 1467 01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,400 Speaker 1: is what I'm gonna have to do more so get 1468 01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:54,320 Speaker 1: away from it a little bit. But it's a great spot. 1469 01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,360 Speaker 1: Now you're white. You don't have an archery tag now 1470 01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,880 Speaker 1: because it's fail but your wife can still hunt. Do 1471 01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:03,760 Speaker 1: you have does she have a game plan for how 1472 01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,800 Speaker 1: she's gonna try to kill a running buck? Anything that 1473 01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:07,800 Speaker 1: you guys have have up your sleeves for the next 1474 01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:11,360 Speaker 1: few days or week. Yeah, but she's playing on going 1475 01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,360 Speaker 1: out in the morning as long as my son's sleeps 1476 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,360 Speaker 1: through the night. I think she'll be. I think she'll 1477 01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:19,080 Speaker 1: be going out in the morning. And not really too 1478 01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,960 Speaker 1: much of a game plan. Um, just your typical like 1479 01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:26,360 Speaker 1: rut hunts, you know, like do betting areas and and 1480 01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:30,639 Speaker 1: just those pinch points to and from them pretty much. Um, 1481 01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:34,920 Speaker 1: not nothing too crazy that way, not no rocket science 1482 01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:38,280 Speaker 1: with it, pretty much just sitting sitting spots where those 1483 01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:42,360 Speaker 1: frequent and where her bucks come to and from them. So, now, 1484 01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,840 Speaker 1: are you gonna be upset if she kills Tran one 1485 01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:50,320 Speaker 1: of the bucks that you No, No, not at all. Tran. 1486 01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:54,000 Speaker 1: Tran was kind of Jason tran Is. He's pretty much 1487 01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:58,000 Speaker 1: similar to uh to uh the buck I shot. You know, 1488 01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,240 Speaker 1: he's just got that goofy rack and he's ancient too, 1489 01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:04,640 Speaker 1: man that he's he's kind of like one of those 1490 01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,519 Speaker 1: bucks where he's just going downhill, you know, that's what 1491 01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,320 Speaker 1: he looks like and handlers are all funky this year 1492 01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:12,840 Speaker 1: and stuff. But I'd be super excited if she if 1493 01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:16,439 Speaker 1: she got a shot at him. He's just a huge 1494 01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:20,599 Speaker 1: mature book and and uh probably a good one too. 1495 01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,360 Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to talk about like getting 1496 01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:27,320 Speaker 1: rid of like some of those I don't know what 1497 01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,360 Speaker 1: guys talk about those bucks that are kind of like 1498 01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,840 Speaker 1: bullies and stuff like that, and he's kind of like 1499 01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,760 Speaker 1: that because I mean, his muzzles just all scarred up 1500 01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,960 Speaker 1: and he gets busted up and not one of the 1501 01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,360 Speaker 1: wanted on if you want want some of those bigger 1502 01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,479 Speaker 1: act ones. I guess right that the young oncomers get 1503 01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:49,200 Speaker 1: all scared off. I am probably, yeah, exactly, probably like 1504 01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,439 Speaker 1: what the Holy Field does on your on your place 1505 01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:56,280 Speaker 1: or what he used to do. Yeah, true, I don't 1506 01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:59,800 Speaker 1: I don't think that's happened anymore. But that's all right, 1507 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,120 Speaker 1: it's all right. We're ready for closure. By yeah, I 1508 01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:06,520 Speaker 1: think I think there needs to be closure. But um, 1509 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,920 Speaker 1: but I'm actually thinking now that you know, we um 1510 01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:13,200 Speaker 1: talk through your stuff, talk through dan stuff. I've re 1511 01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:18,720 Speaker 1: um I've rethought through my thoughts for this podcast. I 1512 01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:22,160 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna hold off on my Michigan story until 1513 01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:25,960 Speaker 1: next time, because I feel like to tell the story 1514 01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:30,880 Speaker 1: today would be too much of beginning in the middle 1515 01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:35,360 Speaker 1: of the story, and there's not a satisfactory ending. I 1516 01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,080 Speaker 1: think that if we wait till the next podcast, though, 1517 01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:39,920 Speaker 1: I might have a good ending for my story. I 1518 01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:41,280 Speaker 1: still think I can have a good end. Do you 1519 01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:42,599 Speaker 1: think I might be able to still a good ending? 1520 01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,479 Speaker 1: Because you know, you know what's happening Ross, Yeah, I 1521 01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:49,120 Speaker 1: think so. Well, what's the deal? Now you're you're in 1522 01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,840 Speaker 1: Western Michigan, So how long a few more days? I'm 1523 01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:55,960 Speaker 1: gonna brief hiatus because of some stuff with the Mediator crew, 1524 01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:58,720 Speaker 1: but I will have time to get back after this 1525 01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:02,919 Speaker 1: buck um. But then, but then, when when does shotgun 1526 01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,479 Speaker 1: start or a gun season start from Michigan? Hasn't met 1527 01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:11,679 Speaker 1: the Sohong weekend to that? Yeah? No, um so yeah, 1528 01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:14,400 Speaker 1: that will throw a curveball in the things. But I'll 1529 01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,599 Speaker 1: have a handful day still with the bow, and then 1530 01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,160 Speaker 1: I am going to go out and hunt during guns 1531 01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:22,280 Speaker 1: season two this year, which I usually don't do, but 1532 01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:26,240 Speaker 1: I think I will. Yeah, what's up? What's your tought 1533 01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:30,599 Speaker 1: presss of that? Ah? Well, I just think that well, 1534 01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,360 Speaker 1: Number one, my I usually go up to our Northern 1535 01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:36,240 Speaker 1: Michigan deer camp, you know, and this year, just because 1536 01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:39,120 Speaker 1: of my dad's schedule, we can't go up for the 1537 01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:43,000 Speaker 1: first three days, so I'm not going to be hunting 1538 01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:44,920 Speaker 1: up there. I'm just gonna be sitting around at home 1539 01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:48,519 Speaker 1: twidling my thumbs or hunt. And I've done the gun 1540 01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:52,160 Speaker 1: season sanctuary, you know, for many years now. But I 1541 01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,280 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe it's time to just try hunting it. 1542 01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:58,519 Speaker 1: Hunting a smart but maybe you know, I'm not so 1543 01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:01,280 Speaker 1: much of a purist that I'm one percent opposed to 1544 01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:03,840 Speaker 1: shooting a deer with the firearm. I'm okay with that. 1545 01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:08,160 Speaker 1: Um So why not why not try it once? See 1546 01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:11,120 Speaker 1: what happens? Who knows? Maybe my farm, maybe this farm 1547 01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:13,720 Speaker 1: that I usually don't hunt during guns season, if i'd 1548 01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:15,439 Speaker 1: hunted the last three years, maybe I would have killed 1549 01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:20,800 Speaker 1: Holy Field or whatever. Um So with this new deer, 1550 01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,759 Speaker 1: maybe I'll I'd like to kill with the ball. Hopefully 1551 01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,439 Speaker 1: that just happens before you but if not, I might 1552 01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:30,120 Speaker 1: give this a shot. So but I think that do 1553 01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:35,200 Speaker 1: you think he's not only a lot of people. I 1554 01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:37,120 Speaker 1: think I saw a lot of people talking about it too. 1555 01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:41,479 Speaker 1: But do you think he showed up now because because 1556 01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:45,519 Speaker 1: Holyfield is dead, I still don't know, and now you're 1557 01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:51,720 Speaker 1: getting me to possibly get into the story. But I 1558 01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:54,000 Speaker 1: will answer your question. I think that maybe that could 1559 01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:56,920 Speaker 1: have something to do with it, because because yeah, I 1560 01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:58,960 Speaker 1: do think the holy Field is gone. That's my gun, 1561 01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,200 Speaker 1: because I still haven't gotten any settings or pictures or 1562 01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:03,880 Speaker 1: anything of them. And now this new mature buck has 1563 01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:07,400 Speaker 1: shown up that in the past, he's not shown up 1564 01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:08,880 Speaker 1: during the road at all. He's been a deer that 1565 01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:10,960 Speaker 1: I've known of. This the third year that I've known 1566 01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,559 Speaker 1: of this buck. But I've always thought he lives somewhere else. 1567 01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:15,639 Speaker 1: He'd show up like once a year on the property 1568 01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:17,840 Speaker 1: I can on. But now he's shown up a bunch. 1569 01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:20,920 Speaker 1: And my best guess is that, yeah, it's probably because 1570 01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:24,240 Speaker 1: holy Fields not around, you know. I mean, it seems 1571 01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:25,680 Speaker 1: like too much of a coincidence that all of a 1572 01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:28,439 Speaker 1: sudden his behavior would change so much. Um. And it 1573 01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:30,479 Speaker 1: also happens to be the first year that holy Fields 1574 01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:34,799 Speaker 1: not here in the last three years, you know. So 1575 01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:37,559 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's been an interesting cat and 1576 01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:41,200 Speaker 1: mouse game, you know about it? Ross um and uh 1577 01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,840 Speaker 1: And I will share the full story. I guess next 1578 01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:49,400 Speaker 1: time around, hopefully with a better ending, and um, if 1579 01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:52,600 Speaker 1: nothing else, to at least be a lesson learned. Um, 1580 01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:54,920 Speaker 1: that's what I always try to at least make myself 1581 01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:59,439 Speaker 1: feel better with it by saying I learned something. So 1582 01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:04,439 Speaker 1: we'll see. Um, but anything, make sure to make sure 1583 01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:06,640 Speaker 1: you when you when you talk about the story, make 1584 01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:11,880 Speaker 1: sure you go over all the details to all the hunts. 1585 01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:13,519 Speaker 1: It will be it'll be great to add all that 1586 01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:16,040 Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, you're talking about the bail blind story, 1587 01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:19,800 Speaker 1: aren't you. Yes, I am. Yeah, don't leave that out 1588 01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,280 Speaker 1: because that's great. You're right. I gotta make sure that 1589 01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:24,960 Speaker 1: Dan's on the podcast, though, because that's a story that 1590 01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:27,080 Speaker 1: Dan really needs here. So that's how we'renna end this one. 1591 01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:29,280 Speaker 1: We will end this one by promising that I will 1592 01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:34,160 Speaker 1: tell you the bail blind story, and I will tell 1593 01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:37,439 Speaker 1: you no more until the next time Dan joins us 1594 01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:39,880 Speaker 1: on the show to discuss this buck I've been hunting 1595 01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:44,040 Speaker 1: and some crazy things that have happened, and hopefully a 1596 01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:46,880 Speaker 1: happy ending to that story. So Ross, thanks for joining, 1597 01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:50,679 Speaker 1: thanks for sharing, Thanks for sharing your your pre rut 1598 01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:55,559 Speaker 1: slash early rut action story, and um, we'll have more soon, 1599 01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,200 Speaker 1: and I am running late to get to the stand 1600 01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:04,160 Speaker 1: here for my November eight I think it is today 1601 01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:07,519 Speaker 1: my November no sorry, November nine hunt. So I'm running 1602 01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:09,760 Speaker 1: late on getting this podcast out. I'm running late to 1603 01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,160 Speaker 1: get to the tree stand, and there are bucks movements. 1604 01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:14,760 Speaker 1: We just need to get this thing out there. So 1605 01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:16,760 Speaker 1: with that said, I just want to thank you for 1606 01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,920 Speaker 1: tuning in. I want to wish you all the luck 1607 01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,920 Speaker 1: in the world. Shoots straight, have a great time hunting 1608 01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:25,559 Speaker 1: during the rut, and stay wired to hunt