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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet and welcome to the Nodongs podcast on

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Speaker 1: the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, January twenty ninth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jay Skiths here in the Classic Factory and alongside

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Speaker 1: me as always.

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Speaker 2: Tasmelas basketball lovers, this one's for you.

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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's the Bearded One, Matapsha, Hot Boy,

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Speaker 1: Trey Kirby, Hey Yo, and over Yonder still running this ship.

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Speaker 3: It's Eshua kid Hi.

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Speaker 2: I'll do it. What's up, esh he's doing it.

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Speaker 1: We have heard from j D. He is recovering slowly.

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Speaker 1: He's now standing. Yeah, we saw him sort of fumbling

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Speaker 1: around a little bit. But he's alive and he'll be

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Speaker 1: back soon enough, don't sure, boy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: On today's show, we're gonna talk about the latest Darren

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Speaker 1: Fox trade rumors that kicked off yesterday. Will run through

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Speaker 1: the Rising Stars player pool, and Iguodala is gonna get

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Speaker 1: his Warriors jersey retire. But let's talk about the All

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Speaker 1: Star team. Let's pick some All Star reserves because we

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Speaker 1: know the starters. We find out on Thursday who the

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Speaker 1: coach is selected, but we gotta do it first, and

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Speaker 1: we'll show you the All Star starters from the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 1: Just to remind you, Jalen Brunson, Donovan Mitchell, that's your

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Speaker 1: starting backcourt, and then your three bigs there, Smiley Karl,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Towns, Smiley Jannis, and Smiley Tatum.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jalen Brunson going to Derrick Rose Mode.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, shade on everybody. Some people face like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's like how dark it is? Yeah, interesting light choice.

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Speaker 1: It's very very weird this graphic. So those again are

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Speaker 1: the starters in the East. But let's pick our all

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Speaker 1: star reserves from this Eastern Conference. Just a reminder, we're

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Speaker 1: looking for seven players here. Coaches do have to vote

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Speaker 1: for two guards, three front court players, and then two

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Speaker 1: wild cards. I sometimes think they like, you know, sort

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Speaker 1: of massage that a little bit if it.

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Speaker 2: Helps their chances.

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Speaker 3: Make it forward to guard, make a guard forward.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see how we do. We'll try and do

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Speaker 1: this like sort of by position as we go, guards, forwards,

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Speaker 1: and then our wild cards. And I know we're gonna

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Speaker 1: disagree on some of them, but a lot I assume

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Speaker 1: we'll walk in together. So let's go guards. Let's just

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Speaker 1: go to your two guards right now in the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 1: Who do you have on your list?

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Speaker 2: Let's see if we have a guard's consensus. Okay, I've

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Speaker 2: got Darius Garland. Yes, he's my first guy. I think

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Speaker 2: you can arguably say he's having a better season than

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Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell, who's starting. He's a couple points back per

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Speaker 2: game than Donovan Mitchell. But he's a more efficient shooter

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Speaker 2: from everywhere. Twos threes, free throws, way more assists.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, he's been clutch too.

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Speaker 2: He's been super cletch. Besides the premiere season.

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Speaker 3: He's been awesome. Garland's on your list, He's on my list.

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Speaker 1: Okay, no brainer. Can't wait to see how many calves

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Speaker 1: make this the other guard? Go ahead, who do you have?

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Speaker 2: Do you have? Do you have Garland as well? Lock? Okay,

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Speaker 2: so who's the second one? That's the question. I'm going

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Speaker 2: Damian Lillard.

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Speaker 3: Here as the lack one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, he's really good, great numbers. Do you

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Speaker 2: consent he's on my team?

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Speaker 1: Yes, he's I guess he's a wild card, but yes,

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Speaker 1: he's on my squad.

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Speaker 3: Do you have him on your team?

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Speaker 4: Number two?

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Speaker 4: Okay, yes, okay, five and sevens having an awesome season

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Garland Dame, you want to stick with guards

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Speaker 1: that make it or you should we just go front court.

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Speaker 1: Let's go front court. Let's go front court. TKU start us.

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Speaker 1: Here is another cavalier in the squad. Here is Evan

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Speaker 1: Mobley on your team as one of the front court players.

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Speaker 4: He was the luckiest lock I had, I was anybody

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Speaker 4: for a guy that should be there. Eighteen points, nine rebounds,

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Speaker 1: Struggling at times to find maybe the forward positions, less

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Speaker 4: A lot of injury concerns and miss time for some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was my most improved player pick before this season.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we all have Mobley, keep us going here, TK,

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Speaker 1: who's your second front core player in the East?

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Speaker 4: I don't really, I don't want to. Man, this guy's

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Speaker 4: Siakam is making it for the front court for me.

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Speaker 2: You I do have. Yeah, it came down to a

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Speaker 2: I mean he's played forty five games compared to Franz

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Speaker 2: Pacers are a very good team. He is their leading score.

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Speaker 2: Toughest of them all.

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Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, But we all agree on those

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Speaker 1: I'm right there with you for all the reasons. Who's

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Speaker 1: You can give us a bunch of names that you

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Speaker 4: Yah, there's my four names. I'm contemplating. Jalen Brown, Jared Allen,

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Speaker 4: So I ultimately did choose Jalen Brown. Twenty three points,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's ultimately where I fell too.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. It's like feels like a down season.

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Speaker 1: It is, but it's still an All Star level season

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Speaker 1: when you just look at the forwards at least, and

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Speaker 2: There same and there's always talk about him playing guard,

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Speaker 2: but he's forward. He's played seventy two percent of his

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Speaker 2: him to Jalen Johnson, who is a very good player.

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Speaker 2: That being said, these Atlanta Hawks seem to just be

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Speaker 2: worse and worse. I'm having flashbacks of last year when

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Speaker 2: Jalen Johnson was on this Atlanta Hawks team. They started

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Speaker 2: that those numbers. But when it comes to the forwards, yeah,

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Speaker 2: those are the guys I was I was comparing.

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Speaker 1: So it sure sounds like no one's gonna have another

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Speaker 1: Not me, okay, me me no, because I think we've

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Speaker 1: listed them all. The only other name I guess we

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Speaker 1: haven't said, but he's on a brutal team. Is Scottie

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Speaker 1: Barnes is having a good season, but he's missed thirteen games,

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Speaker 1: you know, pretty similar to to Jalen Johnson in that regard.

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Speaker 2: I almost mentioned him, but I stopped myself because I mean,

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Speaker 2: he hasn't he hasn't played on the team's very bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, he got a last year.

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Speaker 1: two to pick from. Again, we've already tipped our hand.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be guards.

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Speaker 2: Kate Kinney had him making his first All Star game.

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Speaker 2: He is the one, two, three option for this Detroit

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Speaker 2: he does everything good. He's leading a five hundred team

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Speaker 2: and he almost has a block per game. He does.

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Speaker 2: He does everything, and he's very very good at it.

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Speaker 2: So he was to me, he was easy. He was

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Speaker 3: That's why I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I had Kate even I guess above Damian Lillard, but

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Speaker 3: You have him as a wild card. I had Kate

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Speaker 3: as a lock. Okay, yeah, there we go.

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Speaker 1: Final one.

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Speaker 3: We've agreed. We got six. We're six for six right now.

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Speaker 1: We have all the same six guys, so it's the

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Speaker 1: final one. There are a lot of names, especially guards here,

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Speaker 1: so we'll go with you.

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Speaker 3: TK. Give us your final Eastern Conference All Stars.

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Speaker 4: The guys I considered from my final Eastern Conference wild

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Speaker 4: card slash. For me, it is a guard are Tyler Hero,

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Speaker 4: Trey Young, Tyrese Halliburton, Zach Lavine, and LaMelo Ball And

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Speaker 4: ultimately I'm going with Tyler Hero. Twenty four points a game,

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Speaker 4: five rebounds, five assists, awesome efficiency. He's playing like Steph

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Speaker 4: Curry this season for a team that doesn't have a

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Speaker 4: lot of offensive talent. There's still a middle ten team

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Speaker 4: offensively with Tyler Hero and he's just had a really

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Speaker 4: good season. He's second in the league and three pointers

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Speaker 4: become one of the best shooters in the league. So

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Speaker 4: I'm going Hero, But the other guys have cases as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you too. I'm taking Tyler Hero. He's

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's happened before to be number one

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Speaker 1: Well, I ultimately with Tyler Hero too amongst all those guards,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it did come down to Tyler Hero versus Trey

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Speaker 1: Bit right right, And I guess no one no consideration

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Speaker 2: But no, not me. He has definitely improved. Its numbers

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Speaker 2: these these numbers and the Tree Young thing feels doesn't

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Speaker 2: I'm having flashbacks to last year when Jellen Johnson again

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Speaker 2: they've made change. And I again, when the players voted,

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Speaker 2: I think it was like I'm guessing November eighteenth. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Tyler Hero was way down. He was tenth among guards.

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Speaker 2: But Tyler Hero has gotten way better since then, So

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Speaker 2: that's why he was my last guy over. Yeah, Trey

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Speaker 1: So our seven guards, or excuse me, our seven reserves.

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Speaker 1: In the Eastern Conference, we all agree on Darius Garland,

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Speaker 1: All right, let's do it in the Western Conference. Here

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Speaker 1: are your starters in the West. Some OG's on this squad.

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Speaker 1: We have Steph Curry and SGA in the backcourt, and

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Speaker 4: You've won an MVP. Don't smile.

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Speaker 1: Yes, maybe that'll be different next year if he pulls

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Speaker 1: it off SGA and gets it this year. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: who are your all star reserves? From the West before

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Speaker 4: I thought it was more difficult, and I think it's

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Speaker 4: almost a complete flip flop of the Eastern Conference. It

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Speaker 4: is hard to find guards in the West who have

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Speaker 4: in the front court, you could pick like six different guys.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna have eight centers in the All Star Game. Sis,

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Speaker 4: here we go. It's gotta be ridiculous. Here we go.

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Speaker 4: Watch out, Leonard Miller.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's start with you on this one, Trey.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the two guards again, two guards, three forwards,

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Speaker 1: I only got two guards, okay, two guards.

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Speaker 3: That are long.

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Speaker 4: I got two and a half guards, one guy, and

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Speaker 4: I'm still I'm still contemplating. Let's switch it up. Stay chuck,

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Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards. He's in for me. Twenty six points a game,

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Speaker 4: six rebounds, four assists, leading the NBA, and made threes

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Speaker 4: even if you don't like him shooting threes started dunking

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Speaker 3: You'd agree.

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Speaker 2: Easy, Okay, it's an era of three point shots. This

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Speaker 2: guy's doing it the most. You just get it. You

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Speaker 2: just get in. Man, it's yours. He's also good.

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Speaker 3: Okay, ant is there?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 4: Who's your second guard? That's a lock for you. My

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Speaker 4: second guard is Kyrie Irving.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, that's the same same.

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Speaker 1: But you know this was I contemplated other guys here,

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Speaker 4: Can I even contemplate other guys? Look at Doncis has

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Speaker 4: only played twenty two games. Yeah, that's the main thing.

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Speaker 4: He's only played twenty two games. Kyrie twenty four, five

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Speaker 4: and five in thirty seven games, forty eight from the field,

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Speaker 4: forty two from three, ninety at the free throw line.

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Speaker 4: And I think the Mavericks went ten and seven with

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's easy, yeah, yep, yep, you got them there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. We just saw those old heads on that graphic

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Speaker 2: that are starting for the Western Conference. It's kind of

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Speaker 2: like picking an old head here with Kyrie. The numbers

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Speaker 2: But the forward spot was even harder, yeah, than in

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Speaker 1: So it feels like we're gonna have a lot of

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Speaker 3: You know what is Norman Powell?

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Speaker 1: You know it's the shooting card, is the small forward. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll get to that front court. You start us off here.

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Speaker 3: Who are your locks? Your three front court guys.

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Speaker 2: He goes by the name of Victor Weben Yama. Yeah, yeah, pick,

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Speaker 2: I think everybody. Everybody's yep, yep. He's getting there. The

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Speaker 2: second pick was the harder one. It's not even that hard,

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Speaker 2: it's solid enough. It is all enough. And Anthony Davis,

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Speaker 2: So Anthony Davis was my second one.

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Speaker 1: No, we did exit last night's game against Philadelphia pretty

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Speaker 4: Absolutely? I got Wemby and ads locks. The thing is

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Speaker 4: Lebron is starting.

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Speaker 2: Yea Bron?

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, you don't have to feel too bad about it.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't feel too bad.

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Speaker 4: It's okay. It's not your fault. But Lebron got voted

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's definitely what. What hampered it a bit is

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Speaker 2: But it's okay to give Lebron a start. That's quite

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Speaker 2: all right, It's quite all right. These other forwards in

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Speaker 2: the Western Conference will make it one year, but it

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Speaker 2: might not be this year.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So then who is your third front court player

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this one, it was tough. Jaron Jackson Junior of

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Speaker 2: Memphis Grizzlies was my guy. He's just gotten so much better.

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Speaker 2: He's a modern day big. He's able to put it

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about Jaron Jackson Junior? You know,

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Speaker 4: I had him behind Wemby and ahead of Ad Okay,

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Speaker 4: Jaron Jackson Junior, big time lock for me. He's like

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Speaker 4: and Jared Jackson Junr. Is doing exactly the same thing,

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Speaker 4: except for he doesn't rebound. But guess what, he's a

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Speaker 1: And did you like when you looked at the standings

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Speaker 3: And deservingly so from that team?

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Speaker 1: Like did that come into the equation here when you

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Speaker 2: Talk about here.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think he's had a better season than all

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Speaker 1: like they're gonna potentially be bigger guys or front court

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Speaker 1: players who you picking TK as the as the representative

435
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Speaker 1: big man here.

436
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Speaker 4: I over indexed here, I do, I do think like

437
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Speaker 4: I I right now, I got Shangun and I'll put

438
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Speaker 4: Shangun in, and he is a because the Rockets should

439
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Speaker 4: have somebody there. Nineteen points, ten rebounds, five assists for

440
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Speaker 4: shng Goon. He is often their hub, though night to night.

441
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Speaker 4: I don't think he's always their best player, but I

442
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Speaker 4: think maybe over the course of the entire first half

443
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Speaker 4: of the season he has been. So yeah, I'm basically

444
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Speaker 4: choosing scheng Gun because Jalen Green is kind of at

445
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Speaker 4: the bottom of my list of guards. I'm in Thompson.

446
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Speaker 4: It would be awesome to put him in if he started,

447
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Speaker 4: if he had started, maybe if he started the season

448
00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,639
Speaker 4: he's been playing as well as he has for the

449
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Speaker 4: past month, maybe he would be in the mix here.

450
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Speaker 4: But ultimately I did go with Shngun.

451
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Speaker 3: Is he on your team?

452
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Speaker 2: He's not on my team?

453
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Speaker 4: Oh there we go.

454
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Speaker 2: Wow, it's a weird, weird thing. Not to have any

455
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,160
Speaker 2: Rockets on my list any not to have any Clippers

456
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Speaker 2: on my list also pretty weird to me. It came

457
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Speaker 2: down to sheng Gun or Demata Sibonis, and Sibonis still

458
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Speaker 2: on a decent team doing incredible stuff at twenty one,

459
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,679
Speaker 2: fourteen and a half, six and a half assists. He

460
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Speaker 2: even shoots friggin three. He's not a lot of them,

461
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,359
Speaker 2: but forty eight percent for three he does. There's lots

462
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Speaker 2: of good things about sibonas it was those two guys,

463
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Speaker 2: and it's super weird not to have a Houston Rocket

464
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Speaker 2: on there. But yeah, there's a bunch of good players

465
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Speaker 2: on that team. You mess Jaalen Green and you know

466
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Speaker 2: Freddy does some good stuff. They are good players. Sheng

467
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Speaker 2: Gun's probably their hub and their most important player. So

468
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 2: it's weird not having the west of stuff.

469
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Speaker 1: Well, this is fascinating contemplating between ng Gun and Sabonis

470
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Speaker 1: as one of the wild card spots. It sounds like

471
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Speaker 1: there's another name as the other wild card spot in

472
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Speaker 1: the mixture. Otherwise he would just have both of them.

473
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Speaker 1: And who is it?

474
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Speaker 2: You go ahead to us, I needed a second thunder

475
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Speaker 2: on there. Yeah Williams.

476
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, solely because of like dominant record.

477
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Speaker 2: He's become their second played small ball.

478
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Speaker 1: Center when those guys were out there. Two guys play

479
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Speaker 1: for a little bit four games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's good numbers, He's just yeah number. He's become

481
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Speaker 2: the second most important player on that team. If Chet

482
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Speaker 2: Holmgren played the entire first half, Jalen Williams I would

483
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Speaker 2: assume doesn't make this All Star team. I assume it's

484
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Speaker 2: probably Chet. So it is just a bit of a

485
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Speaker 2: get that guy in there who plays for a team

486
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Speaker 2: that's the number one team in the Western Conference. Uh

487
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Speaker 2: so yeah, to get him over a schngoon, Yeah, it's

488
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Speaker 2: a bit of a force. I don't mind sheng gun

489
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Speaker 2: in there. But that's what I went.

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Speaker 3: Okay, And then who's your final wild card spot?

491
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Speaker 4: I'm switching. I'm putting Jalen Williams in over some bonus.

492
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Speaker 4: So Bonas is the guy that always throws me off

493
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Speaker 4: when we get some I'm like, this guy is not

494
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Speaker 4: an All Star. Then you go and look at his stats.

495
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Speaker 4: Twenty one points a game, fifteen rebounds and seven assists.

496
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Speaker 4: He's ridiculously productive, but screw him. I'm going Williams. I

497
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 4: taught myself in this the Bonus and Go Bear last year.

498
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Speaker 4: I felt like a straight up clown as soon as

499
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Speaker 4: we're done recording. So I can't put five centers into

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Speaker 4: the All Star Game. I'm sorry. I'm going Jalen Williams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I I have Jane dumb as well.

502
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Speaker 3: I have I have so bonis getting.

503
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Speaker 1: Squeezed because it getting down to a Sheng gun or him.

504
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Speaker 1: For me, I'm hoping, in a weird way, as sick

505
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Speaker 1: as it sounds, that there's gonna be a some minor

506
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Speaker 1: injury that pulls one of the guys from the game.

507
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Speaker 1: Maybe it's Anthony David Oh that you know, this hurts,

508
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Speaker 1: My stomach hurts, and then you know you can get

509
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Speaker 1: your guy that's on the bubble in because we get

510
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Speaker 1: some reserves. Maybe that's Norman Powell too, who's like, unfortunately

511
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Speaker 1: on the outside looking in here. It sounds like, yeah,

512
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Speaker 1: and that sucks, it does He's never I mean, I

513
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Speaker 1: feel pretty confidence saying Norman Powell is never gonna have

514
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Speaker 1: a better season. This is it than this so his

515
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Speaker 1: best chance to make it, and maybe he would be

516
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Speaker 1: you know, an injury replacement if we get there.

517
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Speaker 2: But yeah, and maybe if he was in the Eastern Conference,

518
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: things would be different. The West is just it would

519
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 2: be yeah, the West is just tough. It is gonna

520
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 2: come down to uh, tough guys at the end that

521
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Speaker 2: Adam Silver is gonna have to decide on. Hopefully he

522
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Speaker 2: pulls a tray and we can film it and and

523
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Speaker 2: he just ascrew it. I'm going with this guy. He

524
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Speaker 2: deserves to be there because there's literally a little list

525
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Speaker 2: you said you hit picked Sibotis and Rudy Gobert, Rudy

526
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Speaker 2: Goberry and around the list really towards the bottom of

527
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Speaker 2: But the guys that are off my list Shanngoon Powell,

528
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Speaker 2: Daron Fox, James Harden, Devin Booker, Jalen Green, Buttes Subots

529
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Speaker 2: Yea zubots is a damn good player, Jamal Murray, DeRozan

530
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Speaker 2: Go Bear's at my bottom.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, It's so in the end we disagreed a

532
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Speaker 1: little bit.

533
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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I think we all took Jalen Williams.

534
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Speaker 1: We did had I have Shangun as a wildcard I've

535
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Speaker 1: got okay, okay, So that that feels like from what

536
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Speaker 1: I've read people making their teams, there's a lot of that.

537
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Speaker 1: Jaylen Williams I've seen not included on a lot of lists.

538
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Speaker 1: You know, his numbers are not as maybe amazing as

539
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Speaker 1: some of these other guys, but I'm with you, like,

540
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Speaker 1: this is a dominant team we're seeing. It's like when

541
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Speaker 1: you're looking at like obviously point differential and net ratings

542
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Speaker 1: and stuff like that, like they are one of the

543
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Speaker 1: best we've ever seen in the regular season to this point.

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Speaker 4: He's instrumental.

545
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 3: We talk up the calves and we're like.

546
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Speaker 1: Oh, Mitchell, Garland Mobley, should there be a fourth I mean,

547
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying we need three or four thunder players there,

548
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: but his side sga sidekick.

549
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Speaker 3: He's elite wing, you know, guy, He's deserving for sure.

550
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Speaker 1: And the numbers are not brutal either, They're just they're

551
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Speaker 1: gonna just probably tick up as his career goes on.

552
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Speaker 3: So he's there for me.

553
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Speaker 1: It's uh. And then the Sabonus part of it is

554
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Speaker 1: like unfortunately, like I felt like, yeah, Jaron Jackson Junior

555
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Speaker 1: and shng Gun being on two of the three best

556
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Speaker 1: teams in the West. They'd sort of need a representative.

557
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Speaker 1: Those guys are like their lead dogs. Sorry, Sibonis, you're

558
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Speaker 1: a little bit lower. I mean, that's sort of how

559
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Speaker 1: I got to it.

560
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 3: But his numbers are nuts. You're right, seven assists.

561
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Speaker 4: But yeah, it would be cool though to see Joki,

562
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Speaker 4: scheng Gun and Sabonus somehow end up on the same

563
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Speaker 4: thing via the draft and they're all just at the

564
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Speaker 4: high post passing to each other, back and forth, dribble

565
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Speaker 4: hand off, drible hand off, drible handoff, book shot.

566
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if we get some crazy drafting going on,

567
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Speaker 1: like in terms of like roster building here from from

568
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Speaker 1: Chuck or Shack or like Shack. You're right, Like, I

569
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Speaker 1: don't know what the rules are gonna be. I assume

570
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Speaker 1: they're gonna have to select the starter pool first and

571
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Speaker 1: then move to the reserve pool. But like Shack going

572
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Speaker 1: all big man would be pretty funny. I got, you know,

573
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Speaker 1: like Jared Jackson Junior running the point or something like

574
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Speaker 1: that for the Webbin Yama hell for running the point.

575
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so I.

576
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Speaker 1: Agree or disagree. Let's hear your rosters. Who are the

577
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: biggest snubs? You know? Always a fun exercise here, and

578
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: we'll talk about them on Fridays Drop podcast when we

579
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Speaker 1: find out on Thursday night the actual teams, and like

580
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Speaker 1: we said, we maybe, uh maybe we'll draft teams ourselves

581
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Speaker 1: and then see let the people decide who drafted the

582
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Speaker 1: best team.

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Speaker 3: That could be fun.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's get into some big news sort of not

585
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Speaker 1: touching as much on the games last night, but the

586
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: big news yesterday, The Kings are expected to open up

587
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Speaker 1: talks for a potential D'aron Fox trade ahead of the deadline.

588
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Speaker 1: To quote Shams here, there will be plenty of suitors

589
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Speaker 1: for Fox, who made an All NBA team in twenty

590
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Speaker 1: two to twenty three, but it's believed that the King's

591
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Speaker 1: point guard has a target destination in mind ahead of

592
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Speaker 1: his free agency. Sources set end quote. That's my favorite

593
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Speaker 1: part of the shams aargle. It's like he has a

594
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Speaker 1: team in mind, but I'm not gonna tell you.

595
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Speaker 3: I tell you.

596
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Speaker 1: Obviously a lot more reporting on this. It's sure seems

597
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: like that team is the San Antonio Spurs, you know,

598
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: across the league. That's sort of the team that people

599
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: see the prospect of pairing Fox with the future face

600
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: of the league in Victor Webbama, So let's let's talk

601
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: about you know that hypothetical other teams that could be

602
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: in the mix, and just the Kings, like I guess admitting, hey,

603
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: maybe we will move them sooner rather than later here

604
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: because of you know, the no contract excenter and stuff

605
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: like that.

606
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Speaker 2: He's ready to move on. It sure feels like this

607
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 2: is it. He has given his all to Sacramento and

608
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 2: he's loved Sacramento. I went back and watched all the footage.

609
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Speaker 2: He sat in the room with his wife for say,

610
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Speaker 2: Fox and Deuce and Mow and a little tiny room

611
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 2: a year and a half ago and did a podcast

612
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Speaker 2: with them. That guy loves Sacramento if he's doing podcasts

613
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: in those type of rooms. But he's like, I'm no

614
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: insult to their studio, but this well it's a tiny studio.

615
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 3: Barely put four guys at this day.

616
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Speaker 2: We are in this place.

617
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 4: We love so oh.

618
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Speaker 2: I love the fact that they went and agreed to

619
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Speaker 2: That means he's given a lot to Sacramento, but he

620
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: doesn't want to be there basketball wise anymore. I think

621
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: that's what happened. That's what it's about.

622
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 4: He loves Sacramento. But not playing there.

623
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, not anymore. He did for a long time. His wife,

624
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: Roseye Fox, sat with Rich Paul uh and talked to

625
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: the front office in December, and I think they've just

626
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: come to an agreement. It's time to move on. It

627
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: reminds me of Donovan Mitchell in Utah, where he gave

628
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: it all, but at some point he said, I gotta go.

629
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: He came to Cleveland. He signed a three year extension

630
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 2: this past summer after being here for being there for

631
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Speaker 2: a couple of years, and he said, I like it here.

632
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: Darren Fox was offered a three year extension this past

633
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: summer by Sacramento. He said, no, that's where he is.

634
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 2: He just wants to go somewhere. It didn't he didn't

635
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: win in Sacramento like don Mitchell didn't win in Utah.

636
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 2: And that's it. That's what it comes down to. So

637
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,239
Speaker 2: I don't have an answer as to where he's gone, right,

638
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: But just.

639
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Speaker 1: For those who don't know, Fox has a thirty seven

640
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: point one million dollar salary next season. He could become

641
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: a free agent in twenty twenty six if an extension

642
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: is not reached. He's eligible to sign a four year,

643
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty eight million dollar extension with Sacramento

644
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: this summer or six months after he's traded with his

645
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: new team. So that's part of the equation here. What

646
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Speaker 1: do you think, TK, I mean, we talked about Fox

647
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Speaker 1: and the trade rumors when Rich Paul was sitting in

648
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: cornside right then it died down because we had Mike

649
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: Brown being fired and then Doug Christy sort of turned

650
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: the team around. We didn't hear much, you know, of

651
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: those Fox trade rumors. And here we go again from

652
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: Rich Paul is his agent and the Fox camp of like, hey,

653
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: probably look to move me here before the deadline.

654
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 4: What do you think, Well, something we never heard was

655
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 4: the Kings come out and say that Darren Fox had

656
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 4: nothing to do with Mike Brown's firing. We heard Fox

657
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 4: say that, but the Kings never backed him up. So

658
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 4: I wonder if there's a little tension in the front office.

659
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 4: There's been reporting out of Sacramento as well that the

660
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 4: front office has come to Fox and Sabonas and be

661
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 4: like we got these deals done, and then literally no

662
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 4: deals ever happened. They made the playoffs, they didn't win

663
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 4: a playoff series. It looks like they're stagnating here without

664
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 4: really a way to get any better. They're probably gonna

665
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 4: lose the thirteenth pick. As of now, it's a top

666
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 4: twelve protected, I believe to the Hawks, so that would

667
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 4: be a bad loss of a draft pick. And I

668
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 4: don't know, it's almost it's almost Daron Fox doing a

669
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 4: little bit of a favor because he's like, I'm gonna leave,

670
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 4: but you're gonna get the best return you could possibly

671
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 4: get for me if you trade me right now, because

672
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 4: there's eighteen months left on his deal. The team trading

673
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 4: for him, like you're saying, even if it's not his

674
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 4: preferred destination, they can take a chance and say, we

675
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 4: can still sign you to a huge contract after six months.

676
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 4: Come here, see if you like what we've got going on.

677
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 4: So maybe the Kings will get a good offer. The

678
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 4: dude's only twenty seven years old, he's got time left

679
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 4: on his contract, and he's extension eligible. He's the number

680
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 4: one trade target out there right now, Like the Miami

681
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 4: Heat have to be more interested in Dearon Fox than

682
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 4: they are in Bradley Beal or any of this return

683
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 4: that's coming back for Jimmy Butler going out. So I

684
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 4: think the Kings could do okay here, they might be

685
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 4: able to get some pieces back. They should probably blow

686
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 4: it up, if we're being completely honest. They won't because

687
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 4: it took them twenty years to even get back into

688
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 4: the playoff play in mode. They don't want to go

689
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 4: back the other way. But it sucks for the Kings

690
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 4: that they're gonna lose Fox because they are, but they

691
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 4: could come out of it okay. On the other side,

692
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 4: I think.

693
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: Okay, And now let's talk about it from the Spurs

694
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: side of things, like should the Spurs be really active

695
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: here in trying to add Deer and Fox to their roster?

696
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: I know it depends on what goes out. You would

697
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: assume the Kings are like, Okay, you're gonna have Fox,

698
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: will take Castle your high traft pick. I assume the

699
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: King's excuse me, the Spurs are gonna say, no, we're

700
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: not doing that. Are you interested in a Devin Vassel

701
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: or Keldon Johnson and Zach Collins contract and picks? Because

702
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: so they have a lot of other teams picks. But

703
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: then it's weird like here's the picks. But maybe the

704
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: Kings want to still be competitive. So what do you

705
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: think tasks of the spur side of it. Should they

706
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: be looking. Do you like the pairing idea of Fox

707
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: with Webbin Yama or are their issues there not being

708
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: a sort of a shooter.

709
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: And so on. Well, Tarren Fox is a damn good player.

710
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: I think he can shoot. Yeah, he's not a traditional

711
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: lights out shooter, but he can shoot. Yeah. What it

712
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: comes down to if it's Stefan Castle, I guess if

713
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: the Spurson negotiating, they say no, we want to keep him.

714
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: But if it comes down to that's the only thing

715
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: that will the Kings will will do it for I

716
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: think it may happen. He's Yeah, I would love to

717
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: see him with Wemby. It wasn't it would be an

718
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: incredible matchup.

719
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that Fox would be the number

720
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 4: one guy I pick to put next to Webbin Yama

721
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 4: from like a young player perspective, because he's not a

722
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 4: good shooter. He's a thirty three percent career shooter. He's

723
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 4: had a couple of good seasons, but he likes to

724
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 4: do it with the ball in his hands as well,

725
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 4: rather than a catch and shoot guy. And honestly, I

726
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 4: want Victor to have the ball more often than I

727
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 4: want their point guard to have the ball. But it's

728
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 4: so interesting. First of all, I think it's pretty crazy

729
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 4: that this guy's in his second year and he's already

730
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 4: getting All Stars to want to leave teams, to leave

731
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 4: paydays to come and play with him. Number two, win

732
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 4: now moves usually a bad idea in the NBA. That's

733
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 4: how the Cavs loft Lebron the first time around. They

734
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 4: thought they were ready to win because Lebron was one

735
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 4: of the best players in the league. It's twenty one.

736
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 4: They traded all their picks. They brought in these vets

737
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 4: that they thought would help. Eventually they had nothing left.

738
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 4: He went to Miami. Everybody knows that story. However, I

739
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 4: wonder if Wenby is like getting a great quarterback in

740
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 4: the NFL at the top of the draft Jayden Daniels,

741
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 4: for instance. This is the cheapest Wenby is going to

742
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 4: be for the next fifteen years, So maybe you try

743
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 4: and bring in talent like Fox. I wouldn't trade Castle

744
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 4: the Cell maybe, but clearly the Spurs are we're gonna

745
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 4: want to do it for I don't think Harrison Barnes

746
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 4: can be traded, but like Keldon Johnson can be in

747
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 4: a trade, they're gonna want to send role players back.

748
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 4: This Kings should not want that, So I wouldn't be

749
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 4: surprised that this stretches into the summer, because there's no

750
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 4: the Kings don't have to trade at this point. I

751
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 4: like the idea of him on the Spurs, but I

752
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 4: would rather trade Spurs picks. Then they've got three Hawks

753
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 4: picks coming. They've got the Hawk's unprotected pick this year,

754
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 4: a swap the season after that, and an unprotected pick

755
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 4: after that. They should hang onto those picks because those

756
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 4: are going to be juicy, but you can trade the

757
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 4: The Spurs can trade their own picks. They're just gonna

758
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 4: be in the twenties.

759
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're banking on webin Yama obviously being the

760
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: best player here in the NBA in a couple of years. Yeah,

761
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: they also have Ironically, I guess the Spurs control swap

762
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: rights on Sacramento's two thousand and thirty one first round

763
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: thanks to the DeRozan deal in the offseason. So if

764
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: any sort of trade package is being talked about, I

765
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: think it starts with that, right. If you're sorry, hey,

766
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: can we get that back? You start with that, and

767
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: then the players you go from there. Yeah, hey we

768
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: want Castle, Well we don't want to give you Castle

769
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: because we're terrified. And I've seen a lot of this,

770
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: like the idea like Castle turns into like the SGA

771
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: type piece where he moves in that Clippers thunder deal

772
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: and suddenly this guy blossoms into like a superstar player.

773
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows, right, Castle's going to be a

774
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: good player. Appears to be, but will a Bede to

775
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: that level? You never know, but you want to hold

776
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: on to him, So I'm doing more of a sell. Yeah,

777
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: Kelvin Johnson for sure. Jeremy Sohan, that one's you know,

778
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: I'd be intrigued if I'm the Kings. I know, Spurs.

779
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: Some Spurs fans love him, you know. I think he

780
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: has his limitations, of course, but he is an energetic,

781
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: defensive guy, and maybe you just want that good energy

782
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: around wem mien Yama. But man, you're right about guys

783
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: like You're gonna see the start lining up to get

784
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: to play with Wemby, and you should if you want

785
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: a legit shot at championships, pluralize that maybe or at

786
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: least the window with him as the star guy.

787
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Spurs tend to not trade somebody at the deadline.

788
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: They slow it down, baby, And so it's unlikely we'll

789
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: see the Spurs make it happen right here, right now.

790
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: But it does make sense from the King's front office

791
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 2: perspective to say, yeah, a year and a half left,

792
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: this is the time that they'll get the most for him.

793
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: But it could definitely go to the offseason.

794
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: If it's a true blow it up, like TK was saying,

795
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: the Kings maybe should lean into then you're good, then

796
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: you could get a really good package back because there's

797
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: a lot.

798
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 3: Of picks involved here.

799
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: But it's like they may still want to be hey,

800
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: we were bad for twenty years, like we want to

801
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: still say somewhat relevant in playing races, in playoff races.

802
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: We want talent and be it young talent at that

803
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: to grow with their team.

804
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the question is some of those other teams that

805
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: don't have a star player could be looking just you know,

806
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: the Grizzlies come to mind, and the Rockets obviously are

807
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 2: in there, but Spurs one feels feels the juiciest for sure, because.

808
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: He wants to be there. I think his wife's from

809
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: San Antonio and stuff like that too.

810
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 3: So he does. Fox wants to go there. If you

811
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 3: again you.

812
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 2: Believe the reports he's from Houston, right.

813
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, see, but I think his wife's from there.

814
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: Are there any other teams that should be like, kick

815
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: the tires on Hey, we'll take Deer and Fox off

816
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: your hands for eighteen months here.

817
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 3: What do you think about this deal?

818
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 4: Houston absolutely should kick the tires on it. They've said

819
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 4: they're not making any trades. I suggested a zach Lavine

820
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 4: trade for them, and Houston Rockets fans got very upset.

821
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 4: They said away, but Fox, come on, twenty seven years old.

822
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 4: The guy would be money to have on this team.

823
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 4: He's a clutch player and that's something that they've been

824
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 4: struggling with the entire year. I don't mind him on

825
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 4: the magic, though the shooting might become an issue there.

826
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 4: Don't mind him on the heat. He'd be good for

827
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 4: that team as well. If they're looking to upgrade their talent,

828
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 4: people like staying in Miami. Yeah, so, I mean the

829
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 4: Kings should get good offers. I think Sean said, dozens

830
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 4: of teams we're calling on Darren Fox immediately because of

831
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 4: his contract situation and his age. So that's probably why

832
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 4: there the clutch team is not saying that he wants

833
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 4: to go to the Spurs, because there's gonna be a

834
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 4: bidding war. If he says he wants to go to

835
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 4: the Spurs, they're gonna have to trade Castle right now.

836
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 4: Surely the Spurs don't want to trade Castle, but why

837
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 4: would the Kings do it otherwise if he's not coming back.

838
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 4: So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised that Fox ends up

839
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 4: on a team that's not the Spurs and then eventually

840
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 4: just signs there in twenty twenty six. Anyways, that is.

841
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 2: A possibility, And a lot of those teams that would

842
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: go normally into free agency and say we can attract

843
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: somebody at some point, it's harder to do that now

844
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 2: under the new CBA. It's just easier to do it

845
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: with trades if possible. So I think they are going

846
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: to get a plentiful of trade offers. Yeah.

847
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: The only other team I've seen like rumor to show

848
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: interest in dearon Fox right now is the Brooklyn Nets.

849
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: I guess are some whispers about him being like a

850
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: guy that they think they could like sort of build

851
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: around right being his age though, and he would be

852
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: their lead dog and what would that take in return?

853
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: So you name the other team's magic nets rockets?

854
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 4: How does that doesn't make sense? They just did the

855
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 4: trade so that they could be terrible this year, I know,

856
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 4: And so now they would He ain't going to be

857
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 4: the nets.

858
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: Probably not the nets. Any other thoughts, Fox.

859
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: Well, people that were saying that I was trash talking

860
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 2: here on the stream team the Deuce in most studio,

861
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 2: I wasn't. I wasn't trash talking by any means. For

862
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: let's say, if you there's a star of a city

863
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 2: that would go to a home, a home of two podcasters,

864
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: I mean that's I think that's that's bold. That's good

865
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: for them, that's great.

866
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: I think it says even more about dus and more,

867
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: to be honest, just the connections they've made with these players,

868
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: the trust they have with these players.

869
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, he's been there a long time.

870
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 4: You think we can get Trey Young in here?

871
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 3: I think yes, I do, I do, yes somewhat.

872
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: Obviously, it is the equivalent of studio space. Even though

873
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 2: we can fit a car in here. The relationship is

874
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: the question. Dous and most seemed extremely well.

875
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 3: I was gonna say the difference, there's similarities, but the differences.

876
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: We're not a Hawks podcast, true right, this is one

877
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: hundred percent true.

878
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: Speaking of the Hogs, breaking news, Jaylen Johnson's out for

879
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 3: the season.

880
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 2: You know its gonna happen. Is gonna happen? Okay, first

881
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: the injurs is one shoulder comes back. Then it's his

882
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: other shoulder. And unfortunately that guy said about the Hawks,

883
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: things started really well last year Hawks. They were great

884
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 2: with challeng John's great. Good for the Hawks anyway, eight

885
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: and seven, that's great for the Hawks. Oh but then

886
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 2: they plummeted as soon as he went out. He is important, yes, yeah,

887
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: and they end up thirty six and forty six. It

888
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: was a huge part of it. So that's going to

889
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: be a problem.

890
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: Does this change any there? You know, trade thoughts here

891
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: with less than ten days ago before the deadline in

892
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: terms of moving any guys, and it's like leaning in,

893
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: like the season's awash for them and just try and

894
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: get young prospects, draft capital whatever back.

895
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 3: I don't know who like. I guess it's Capella obviously.

896
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: I think Capella and Bogdanovich are if anybody is interested,

897
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 4: but their pick is unprotected going to the Spurs, so

898
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 4: they can't get too bad.

899
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 3: Yeah right.

900
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 4: Literally, if they hit the lottery and get the number

901
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 4: one pick, it goes to the Spurs.

902
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: This oh my god, oh my god.

903
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 4: For the Desdonte Murray trade, he's on the Pelicans. Yeah.

904
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 3: That's torough. That's tough.

905
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: All right, Let's keep it moving here. Let's talk about

906
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: the NBA announcing the rosters for the Rising Stars Challenge.

907
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: Is it still a Challenge or is it just Rising Stars? Anyway,

908
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: it's at All Star weekend. Victor Webber headlining the list

909
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: of players. The Rising Stars I'll still call it challenge

910
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: will take place on Friday, February fourteenth, oh a Day

911
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: of Love, twenty eight of the league's best young talent

912
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: competing in a mini tournament. For those that don't remember,

913
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: winning team gets a chance, though, to compete against the

914
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: All Stars on Sunday night. Here's the pool of players

915
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: we're showing everybody here on YouTube. I am not going

916
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: to read all these names, but at the bottom there

917
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: you got the G League team that's its own team.

918
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: Everybody else, like the rookies and the sophomores. They're going

919
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: to be drafted on February fourth, Okay, but not that

920
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: The league team is the G League team, So sorry, Reid,

921
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: you're with them.

922
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: But Reid, we'll have fans there. I was at the

923
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: Rockets Hawks game yesterday. Reid had fans in the building

924
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: in Atlanta. I saw Read Shepherd Jerseys. I saw Reed

925
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 2: Shepherd Jerseys fans.

926
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to be cheering for the G League team.

927
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 1: They got Leonard Miller on that team. Go Iowa Wolves.

928
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: But I gotta ask you, TK, who's big snubs from

929
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: this one?

930
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 4: There are no snubs, No snubs. No, there's no such

931
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 4: thing as a snub in the Rising Stars game. Somebody's

932
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 4: gonna have to replace Jared McCain though, And that's the

933
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 4: big question. Will it be Mantas Bozellis or will it

934
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 4: be Colo Ware. That's is who it's gonna come down to.

935
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 4: Boozellis has played fifteen fifteen games, more than where has,

936
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 4: but only seventy nine more minutes. That's a huge complaint

937
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 4: amongst Bolls fans is that Bozillis doesn't play enough for

938
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 4: a team that's really stuck in the middle. Why aren't

939
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 4: you playing your young guy? I would say his biggest

940
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 4: advantage for being chosen for this game is that he

941
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 4: will already be there. Yeah, he's got to be Saturday,

942
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 4: so maybe they just let him play in this challenge.

943
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 4: He also led the G League team to a victory

944
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 4: in the Rising Stars Challenge. Last experience buzzer beater. Yeah, yeah,

945
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 4: experience buzzer beating.

946
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: But then it is weird that where wouldn't be included

947
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: in this game, seeing as he right now is the

948
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: rookie of your favorite Maybe a little odd with the

949
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: t feels like it's gonn one of those two guys. Also,

950
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: we have time, there'll be more injuries, probably to some

951
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: of these guys or they are like my ankle's I

952
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 1: can't make it, so there could be more replacements. Anyone

953
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: else jump out to you that didn't get included.

954
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: No, no, it looks solid me. What about you?

955
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: No?

956
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: Not really.

957
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: I have a note though about this, because it was

958
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: in like the official NBA sort of press release or

959
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: statement and here and here it is because I said,

960
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: wehen min Yama's he's going to be playing on Friday night.

961
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: He's gonna get drafted to one of these teams and

962
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna be playing, and maybe his team goes all

963
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: the way and wins the whole thing and then they'll

964
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: play on Sunday. We're like, well, what's gonna happen. He's

965
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: probably gonna be an All Star. We have him on

966
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,439
Speaker 1: our team. It'll probably get selected. Will he get to pick?

967
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: Apparently not.

968
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 4: Quote.

969
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 1: If a player is selected to play in the NBA

970
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: All Star Game and Rising Stars, he will only compete

971
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: for one of the three teams of NBA All.

972
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 3: Stars on Sunday.

973
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 2: That's dumb.

974
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: Let him pick. If he were to make it there,

975
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: it just be way more fun if he's like, no,

976
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: I'm running, I'm running, I'm running with my youngins here,

977
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: just be more fun in a completely meaningless tournament as

978
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: it is.

979
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 3: It could build his.

980
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: Lower if he could actually you know, lead a lead

981
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: that team to a to a victory. But no, anyway,

982
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: we won't be doing that. He's an All Star. If

983
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: he gets selected, he'll be playing with one of those squads.

984
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: When he's drafted.

985
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 2: It would be nice, just fun.

986
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 4: You think you would pick the young guys or you

987
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 4: think he would pick the legends of the game playing

988
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 4: on the same team.

989
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: I think he'd picked the young guys because he would

990
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: have won on Friday night and he'd be like, yeah,

991
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: let's this is my squad now, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Actually

992
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: I think he would.

993
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 4: I wants to be the best player of all time,

994
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 4: and he's gonna say, no, I'm gonna be a rising star.

995
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: You know how you become your your lower builds by

996
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: basically doing what Jimmy Butler did when he was with

997
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 1: the Wolves and taking the scrubs and beating the starters,

998
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: by beating all the legends with who was gonna say,

999
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: Bezello's maybe makes the team whoever you want to pick

1000
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: from that team that he gets drafted with, that'd be awesome.

1001
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: It wouldn't happen, and nor is it going to happen

1002
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: because it'll be an All Star on the All Star team. Yeah,

1003
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: that's that's why they put him at the bottom of

1004
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: the ballot. It is by alphabetical, but they're like, you

1005
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: can tell that there's one extra name. They're like, we

1006
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: got one guy who's gonna definitely be an All Star,

1007
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: but we gotta put him here because he is a

1008
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: second year.

1009
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: Player and you're willing to play in the Rising Stars

1010
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: Challenge game. So that's cool for the NBA that he's

1011
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: willing to do it.

1012
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 4: Period. He's saying, I will be participating at All Star

1013
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 4: Weekend regardless. But he will be an All Star Skills

1014
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 4: though four time Rising Star Challenge participate. He made it

1015
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 4: twice for the G League. Yes, he made it last

1016
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 4: season as well, and he's here again. Wow, unbreakable record. Literally,

1017
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 4: it won't happen again. The guy was a seventeen year

1018
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 4: old playing in the G League.

1019
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: Unless they yeah, no, you're right, there's just no more

1020
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: people who can do it. I was gonna say, let's say, yeah,

1021
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: somehow change the rules, but your player, but yeah, that's amazing.

1022
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 4: Reed Shepherd has played three games in the G League.

1023
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: He's averaging thirty points or something.

1024
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, so as Brandon Williams, who has played the entire

1025
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 4: time in the G League, I don't think Reed Shepherd

1026
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 4: should be there.

1027
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 3: M Yeah.

1028
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 4: So I always thought it's literally name that's it.

1029
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1030
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: I always thought this thing, these teams, like the Rising

1031
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: Stars playerpool was was like picked by the NBA. I

1032
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: sort of just assume that, like they're like, okay, we'll

1033
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: just pick these things, but in fact that's wrong. Each

1034
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: NBA team submitted one ballot per coaching staff selected four

1035
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: front court players, four guards, and two additional players at

1036
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: either position in order of preference for the rookie ballot

1037
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: and a sophomore ballot and then it's all like tabulated

1038
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: and added up. Coach is not allowed to vote for

1039
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: anyone on their own teams, of course.

1040
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 3: But that's how we get to this.

1041
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: I will say, if the NBA was voting or picking

1042
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: the teams, Brownnie James would probably be there. And I

1043
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: appreciate that Bronnie James is not there and that there

1044
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: are other people who have done more in the league leagues,

1045
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: including G League, than Brownie James. So that's a it's

1046
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,959
Speaker 2: a good move. And apparently apparently Brinnie James was asked

1047
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 2: to play in these skills Challenge on Saturday.

1048
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: They denied.

1049
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 2: They denied, he denied, everybody denied. Everybody's denying that whatever

1050
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 2: whatever that means. I guess that that seems like it's

1051
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: a please come to the skills Challenge.

1052
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: That's what it would be cool. We think it'd be

1053
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: cool if you and your dad did it, or the

1054
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: James Crewe did it.

1055
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, honestly, yeah yeah right.

1056
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 4: Yeah right, literally, anybody who has a good last name, yeah,

1057
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 4: lee ya.

1058
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: How do you feel about there being the G League

1059
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: unit here team? A fan of it don't care. Does

1060
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: it bother you that, like they could just pick more

1061
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: rookies or sophomores.

1062
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 4: I guess from the league what I'd rather see Monts

1063
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 4: buzzellis there than Leonard Miller.

1064
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 3: Okay, damn.

1065
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 2: I like how they're highlighting the G League. That's thirty teams.

1066
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: There's thirty G League teams.

1067
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 4: It's cooled. They started this when there was the G

1068
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 4: League iig Nite, and they wanted to get these guys

1069
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 4: buzz coming into the league, and they dropped the G

1070
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 4: League gig Nite. Yeah, so I kind of think that

1071
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 4: this should be NBA players. It's NBA all start weekend.

1072
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: Hey, look, I'm pumped to see a guy named Dink again,

1073
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: Dink pay.

1074
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 4: We saw him play last year. Yeah, he's young, he's

1075
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 4: a young guy.

1076
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: He's very very but he will be on that G

1077
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: League team, all right. Final piece of news here, Golden

1078
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: State Warriors will retire Andre Igdala's number nine jersey on

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Speaker 1: February twenty third, following the team's game against the Dallas Mavericks.

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00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: It will make Igodola just the seventh player in Warriors

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00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: franchise history to have his jersey number retired by the organization.

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00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: This guy helped lead Golden State to four titles, you know, fifteen, seventeen.

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00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 3: Eighteen, and then twenty two.

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00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: Because it came back to the Warriors, I always forget

1085
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: he left there and then came back. Seems pretty appropriate

1086
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: that Igodol is going to get his jersey raised when

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00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: Clay Thompson is also there as a visiting member of

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00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: the Das Mavericks. Like that, so you'll have the big

1089
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: three there obviously Steph, Draymond and Clay on the visiting

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00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: Mavericks along with the Goodola there and they did a

1091
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: little fun video obviously honoring him here. I think it

1092
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: was his his son was doing the narration, which is cool,

1093
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: nice little touch.

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00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 3: I didn't see that, Yeah, I think so. Who's like

1095
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 3: quite old now, I mean the Goodola's forty one.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes it's great to not be on social media

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00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 2: as I was yesterday. I missed it. Sometimes, you know,

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00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: you miss out like on this tribute video narrated by

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Speaker 2: his son.

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Speaker 1: I think so, yeah, I always yeah, they do, Like

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00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: most teams do a pretty good job of these little things,

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00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: right the looking back at the franchise or the career

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00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: of the player that they're going to honor.

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Speaker 3: It's well done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love when kids get the mic. I

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00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: was at kids Night yesterday, Hawks Rockets. They got the

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00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: intro that the players. I was cool. Oh yeah, as

1108
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: you missed it, you missed the kids intros. It was solid.

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00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: It was very very solid. The fact that he could

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Speaker 2: say and Yeka kong Wu great pronunciations. Well done kid. Uh.

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00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 3: I mean his son is seventeen years old.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so he's old. Yeah, he's extremely he also he

1113
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 2: mentioned him in the athletic article. Actually, now that you

1114
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 2: say that, I didn't know how many sons he had.

1115
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 2: Maybe it was a short one. This one is extremely tall.

1116
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 2: This guy he said, I've got a tall son who's

1117
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 2: playing ball. Yeah, it was extremely long.

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00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: I think he's already six y six. He might be

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Speaker 1: taller now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think his wingspan might be bigger than Andre Goodo's. Wow,

1122
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: So what are you talking? We're gonna be see him

1123
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Speaker 2: in the G League game soon?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: So Igdoll's number nine jersey going up. And I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you're not surprised they're doing this, but you have any

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00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: notes on it?

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Speaker 4: No, this is really cool, Like when you think of

1129
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 4: the Warriors dynasty. Obviously you think Steph Clay, Draymond Kerr.

1130
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Speaker 4: That's the first names that come up, but then the

1131
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 4: next two are Kevin Durant and for me, andre Igwidala.

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Speaker 4: He made the death lineup possible. Yep. He was there

1133
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Speaker 4: to help recruit Kevin Durant to come to the Warriors

1134
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 4: as well as part of the Hampton's lineup, which they

1135
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 4: eventually ended up calling it. If Iguadala wasn't able to

1136
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Speaker 4: adjust the his game to playing alongside Curry, Draymond and

1137
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Speaker 4: Klay Thompson, the Warriors wouldn't have been the dynasty that

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Speaker 4: they were. The guy was like a one on one

1139
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 4: player miscast on the Philadelphia seventy six ers. He went

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Speaker 4: to the Nuggets for that one year. A lot of

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Speaker 4: controversy with how he went from the Nuggets to the Warriors,

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Speaker 4: but it worked out for the Warriors. They knew what

1143
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Speaker 4: they were getting in andre Iguidala and he became like

1144
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 4: a beloved role player. Glue guy do everything for Iggwadala.

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Speaker 4: Some people think he's the best clutch player in league history,

1146
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 4: taking him over Steah, taking him over Lebron YEA literally

1147
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 4: one guy ever thought that. But He'll be very happy

1148
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Speaker 4: to see Iggy's number going.

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Speaker 1: I did love this quote from Joe lacub who's the

1150
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Speaker 1: Warriors co executive chairman CEO, said a statement quote, Igdolla

1151
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: was the perfect player and person at the perfect time

1152
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: for our team, and the sacrifice he made in coming

1153
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: off the bench in twenty fourteen sent a message that

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00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: he came here to help us do one thing win.

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00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 1: The proof is in the rafters and his number belongs

1156
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: to us alongside the banners he helped us raise. The

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00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: proof is in the rafters. It's usually in the pudding,

1158
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: but I actually those are.

1159
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 4: Bars, and I was looking for all the pudding anywhere.

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00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: It's in the rafters, baby.

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00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: So that was a cool line, And like it speaks

1162
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Speaker 1: to what you said, like this guy was an All Star.

1163
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: I mean it was a one time All Star, but

1164
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: obviously like a twenty point per game score back in

1165
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,439
Speaker 1: the Philly days. And then Yeah comes to the bench

1166
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: and just becomes incredible defensive player and just incredible team player,

1167
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: clutch player and wins the finals MVP, which is nuts

1168
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: the thing, but he's got one of them.

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00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 2: And I guess the fact that the Nuggets played a

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00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: playoff series against the Golden State Wars when he was there.

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00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: That's that's kind of a cool thing as well. In

1172
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, they saw the from the other side of

1173
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: the floor. Oh yeah, that guy would be perfect on

1174
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: our team.

1175
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 4: Come on, and allegedly he was giving them the inside info.

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00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah that series. Yeah, like this is what you should

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00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: be doing against our team.

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00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's right. Was a warrior at heart man,

1179
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 4: like what they were cooking?

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00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: All right, So congrats to Igodala on getting his jersey

1182
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: retired here less than a month. Okay, pick them, it's over.

1183
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: I've lost you have What did I say? I helped

1184
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: you out. I gave it to you there, Ash here

1185
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: take this win because I guess I'm going to take

1186
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 1: the Lakers.

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00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I really appreciate that too. Really, look, I got it.

1188
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: I think I got a little unlucky. As soon as

1189
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: you know, A d went out that was big. It's

1190
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: a damn all star and they went like ripped off

1191
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: a massive run after it.

1192
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 3: After he went back to the locker room.

1193
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: But Philly wins. I officially cannot catch esh. So we're

1194
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: just going through the motions here.

1195
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: Why not are playing for Pride here. Yeah, playing It

1196
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: does happen every single month where we picked games thirteen

1197
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 2: fourteen hours before the game and then somebody is out,

1198
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 2: somebody is cut, but we don't change our picks.

1199
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: But in my case, I mean he played, yeah and

1200
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 1: then he got injured.

1201
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah whatever. Anyway, you're done. Anyways, you're done.

1202
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: We had Maxi cooking Broni all night to whoa Maxie

1203
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: had a nice game. Do we have a defensive skills

1204
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: challenge at All Star weekend?

1205
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 3: Anyway? Maxley cooked?

1206
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, it was not really coming down to the wire. Anyways,

1207
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 2: you had to go perfect. I had to lose. You'll

1208
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: be paying it off on February tenth. We'll keep next

1209
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 2: week clean and open for the trade deadline. I'll be

1210
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: doing it Monday, February tenth.

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00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 3: No, it's smart.

1212
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: After you see what I'm gonna be doing, I think

1213
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 1: this is the right decision. Just bump it back a week.

1214
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: February tenth, will do it.

1215
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: We know how ratings work. We want more ratings on

1216
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: that week because everybody's gonna be watching or listening because

1217
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: of trade deadline. Right right, we'll get it. We'll get

1218
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: a few people tuning in on Monday, February tenth, that

1219
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: entire week anyway, Denver at the NIXT tonight, okay the

1220
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 2: next or fair by three and a half in MSG.

1221
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: As Denver comes to town for an ESPN game. Should

1222
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 2: be a great battle, and it's not surprising that we're

1223
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: spilit here a couple taking the Knicks to win by

1224
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: four or more. Esh and Tray the other two taking

1225
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 2: the Nuggets.

1226
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 3: Oh this is nice.

1227
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: We have a battle for the top of January's pick

1228
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: them now. It's still in play. I guess all three

1229
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: of you are still technically in play.

1230
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 4: So.

1231
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 3: Good luck.

1232
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, Trey and Ashe taking the Nugg's got some

1233
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: points to play within MSG.

1234
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 2: But we're taking good luck to everybody.

1235
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 3: We're gonna hear from some Knicks fans. I just realized

1236
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 3: you guys didn't even mention Josh hart.

1237
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: Man, very important, great player, But no, you got your

1238
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: two starters.

1239
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 3: Well done.

1240
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we didn't. We didn't mention Michael Bridges. He

1241
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 2: doesn't deserve a little bit.

1242
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 4: Of reckon.

1243
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 3: Josh Hart.

1244
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: He's the hard and sold that team heart and soul.

1245
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: Kilbridges leads the league in minutes played, Josh.

1246
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 3: Hart behind him.

1247
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 2: The ability is availability thirty eight point four has played

1248
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 2: every single game too.

1249
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 3: Okay, what about heart, I'm not looking at that.

1250
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tips is Tims is literally playing everybody on this

1251
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: team most in the league. Well, there's three guys og as.

1252
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:30,439
Speaker 4: Well, four of the four of the top five minutes played. Wow,

1253
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 4: the total of per game total total Jesus Josh Hart

1254
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 4: seventy five minutes behind the Cailbridge two games.

1255
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: It sounds like, yeah, yeah, plays hard, he plays hard.

1256
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 2: This is I guess it's too deep for the the analytics.

1257
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 2: But I didn't know that there hasn't been one team

1258
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 2: that's led the NBA in minutes play for entire season,

1259
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: like had the top three guys it's played. Yeah, excuse me, yeah,

1260
00:55:58,520 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: top three.

1261
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 3: Top five three amazing our starting lineup.

1262
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: That probably happened in like the sixties or something, just

1263
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 2: the same five guys. They don't have anybody else coming

1264
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 2: off the bench.

1265
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 3: Just yeah, yeah, maybe with Toronto.

1266
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 2: Did I heard about that?

1267
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: All right, let's call it a call it there, everybody.

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Speaker 1: If you enjoyed this classic, hit the light button, subscribe,

1269
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: share the show. Podcast listeners consider leaving us a five

1270
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: star rating and review. In fact, you should, because what

1271
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Speaker 1: I guess next week. Next Friday, I should say, will

1272
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: be first Friday of the month of February, and that's

1273
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: when TK usually takes us through some of the best reviews.

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00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 4: We'll have to check with the Nielsen ratings people to

1275
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 4: see if it's okay to do a five star Friday

1276
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 4: on the day after the trade deadline.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I know you're right, there might be

1279
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: too much to talk about, but then again, there might

1280
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: be nothing. We've had some pretty boring trade deadlines. We're

1281
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: hoping that won't be the case.

1282
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 2: Well, if it's the following Friday, we could do it

1283
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 2: live in Golden State.

1284
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 3: We'll be doing them All Star week Oh my.

1285
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the next Friday. Yeah, we'll be doing live show.

1286
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 2: That'll probably be a lot. Hold.

1287
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 3: We have a lot coming up here.

1288
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: We have the NBA trade deadline. We have a pick

1289
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: Them payoff week that I'll be doing. We have All

1290
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: Star weekend, which we plan on doing. We hopefully we'll

1291
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: have some details on a potential live show. I know

1292
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: a lot of you have been asking. And we have

1293
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 1: We have the Grammys in there too. We have this

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Speaker 1: fire Raid concert which is on Thursday, night tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Oscars maybe, yeah, yeah, there's.

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Speaker 4: Something Oscars are around yeah, uh all star.

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Speaker 3: We have Valentine March Day.

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Speaker 4: Second later anyway, Michael Jordan's birthday, Charles Barkley's birthday, your birthday,

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Speaker 4: Oh man, I didn't even realize it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I was just bringing up birthday, birthday. That's right,

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Speaker 3: that's right, that's right. Anyway, Mike Miller action packed Dave Stewart,

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Speaker 3: the former athletic. Uh.

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Speaker 2: I liked him.

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Speaker 4: He was the best guy I'd go and until Mike

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Speaker 4: Miller came around with his monkey, and.

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Speaker 1: Then you'll get it was get you. Yeah, just the

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Speaker 1: monkey's born on the same day. Yeah, oh damn, that's

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Speaker 1: why I got him. It's like that was a gift actually,

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Speaker 1: fresh out of the wheeler. Very cool anyway, actually packed

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Speaker 1: here in No Dunk's Land. So yeah, hit that like button.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it until the Clipper bro heard here.

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Speaker 4: First, have a great time, turn up, love you guys, awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. And remember February second, it's the Grammys,

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Speaker 2: Joey Grammy Stephen Graham's birthday. It's not Stemy birthday.

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Speaker 3: It is the Grammy.

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Speaker 1: Yes, this Friday Sunday, Sunday Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One other thing I forgot in February. That's my really bad.

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Speaker 1: Survivor returns, which means no Bumps returns.

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Speaker 3: That's Lay February.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, what a February, and that's the shortest month.

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Speaker 3: Whylet me do it? Why stuck a lot of energy?

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Speaker 3: Embrace the eight people, m