1 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, this was good to hear. 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker is expected to return this week. It will 3 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: be a welcome return, no doubt. Cliff Kingsbury and Adam Gays. 4 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: They're shared history, including revisiting one of the better stories 5 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: about Kingsbury's hiring. Speaking of history, the Cardinals history with 6 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: Jets defensive coordinator Greg Williams in two words, not good. 7 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, episode three, twenty seven, and it 8 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolu 9 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyunday, 10 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. 11 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: Visit Easy Cardinals dot com Slash podcasts. Murray rolls to 12 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: the right, throws near sight of Fritz bark Is of 13 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: the US. After the touchdown, here's Craig Grilou and Mike Jarecki. 14 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: So we've got a new buzzword and Jay or maybe 15 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: a buzz phrase. Sense of urgency is now the theme 16 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals here in twenty twenty. First it 17 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 1: was rhythm. Now it's sense of urgency. Both Kyler Murray 18 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: and DeAndre Hopkins asked about that and saying, yeah, they 19 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: did feel a sense of urgency when the team at 20 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: the practice field earlier today. Well, I think they were 21 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: listening to you last week where there's only sixteen games, 22 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: and you know, I don't think we're ever going to 23 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: hear it was a bad week of practice, but you 24 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 1: got to you gotta find tune things, you gotta clean 25 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: some things up and attention to the detail. So there 26 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: is a sense of urgency because you know how I 27 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: feel about going on losing the streets and it's tough 28 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: to win three in a row in the NFL, but 29 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: you know, you go start losing three in a row, 30 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: that's not good. So the Cardinals obviously feel like this 31 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: is a must win. Kyler Murray said, they're all must 32 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: wins because there's only sixteen of them. So I like 33 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: what I'm hearing, but again, we need to see it 34 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Quoting Murray, I haven't seen that sense of 35 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: urgency since before week one end. Quote. Now, as you said, 36 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: that sounds good. Yet on the flip side, I can 37 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: play devil's advocate here and say, well, why week one? 38 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: What was wrong with Week two? In Week three and 39 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: week four? Where was that earlier? You can't just bring 40 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: it one week and not the next and hopefully you 41 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: come away with a win on Sunday. That was again 42 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: Devil's advocate. We'll see what happens this week, But that 43 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 1: was something that I found a little interesting. Yeah, And 44 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: I think it's because when the schedule came out and 45 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: you got the defending NFEC champions, you know, they knew 46 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: that if this team is going to be in the 47 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: racist year, you had to pull off that win, and 48 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: they were group, you know, I'll get that first win. 49 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: So I think just being the opener and the fact 50 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: that you know, they got to the regular season opener 51 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: and the COVID Star, they were motivated and they felt 52 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: like they played that team twice the previous year, and 53 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'll always sign up for a split, but 54 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: they felt toe to toe. But you know, you haven't 55 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: had that energy every week, you know. And they were 56 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: able to win that against the Washington football team, But 57 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks they just kind of shooting 58 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: themselves in the foot, you know, negative plays and not 59 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: being able to get off the field and not being 60 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: able to convert on third down, so lock to clean up. 61 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: But I do like what I'm hearing though. Yeah, Murray 62 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: added quote great vibes at practice end quote, And I 63 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: wonder how much that had to do with the return 64 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: of Buddha Baker, who was on the practice field during 65 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: the open portions of the media, And then we heard 66 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: from head coach Cliff Kingsbury saying that the plan is, 67 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: the expectation is Baker will play this week after missing 68 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: just one game, so certainly encouraging signs, specifically on the 69 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: third level of that defense. Oh, there's no doubt. I 70 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: was curious to see where Jalen Thompson and Chris Banjio. 71 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: It looks like they're further away. We'll just have to 72 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: wait and see what the injury report looks like throughout 73 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: the course of the week. But I was out there 74 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: for the open portion of practice and he was dancing. 75 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: They had the music going, and Craig, you know, he 76 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: was on He was on the field in front of me, 77 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: but he was kind of a little bit away from me. 78 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: But I was able to use my phone and took 79 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: a look at that cast and he's got a cast 80 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: on his thumb, but his fingers are out, so that 81 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: should help him when it comes to tackling. You know, 82 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: obviously you know the thumb is I think the thumb 83 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: is probably the most important, you know, finger or on 84 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: her hand, because of how much strength you can get 85 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: from there. But you know, and I'm sure they had 86 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: to work through a couple of different casts, but I 87 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: was really encouraged all his fingers out to where he 88 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,559 Speaker 1: can wrap possibly shed a block. But he definitely brings 89 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: energy to that practice field, and obviously on game day 90 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: they definitely missed him. It's state and the obvious you 91 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: don't really place one of the best safeties in football. 92 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: I love what Charles Washington had to say about his 93 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: teammate Buddha Baker, quote that dude is everything you see 94 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: and more added that he plays sideline, the sideline plays 95 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: one hundred percent on every snap. Quote, He's just a 96 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: special player in general. And then he talked about how 97 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: Baker kind of flips the switch, if you will, off 98 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: the field, very reserved, very quiet, well mannered, well spoken, 99 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: and then on the field, like that light switch goes 100 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: on and he becomes a different player. And we hear 101 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: that from a lot. Once you step in between those 102 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: white lines. You have to breathe a little bit different 103 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: of a human being because, let's face an MJ you 104 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: do on the football field on the street, well that's 105 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: gonna get you in a lot of trouble. You can 106 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: get away with some things when you play in the 107 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: National Football League. Yeah, and he's been miked up a 108 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: few times. And he's a trash talker, you know. And 109 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: it's funny when he goes to the bench, he can't 110 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: find his helmet he has. He wants to figure out 111 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: what side of the bench he's got to sit down, 112 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: and you know, if the offense is on one side, 113 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: he's got to go to the other now. But he 114 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: he's a trash talker. And there are times when you 115 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: see him make a hit and I wouldn't say a 116 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: walk over the guy, but he'll stand there, you know 117 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: for a second. Let him know I'm gonna be here 118 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: all day, so bring it again. But yeah, that's stuff 119 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: you just can't teach. It's it's instincts and it's passion. 120 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: And when he's on the football field, he's echo Tasmanian 121 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: Devil out there. Yeah, if you could have eleven Buddha 122 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: bakers on your defense, I like where you can be 123 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: as a defense as a whole. They are just a 124 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: special breed of player when you're talking about Buddha Bakers. 125 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: So again, good news that he is tracking for availability 126 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Still not so certain about Chris Banjo and 127 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson. You do have TJ. Ward on the practice squad. 128 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: Curtis Riley, who was released on Tuesday, was signed back 129 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: to the team, added to the practice squad, And I 130 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: think I think more of yesterday's move with Riley was, oh, 131 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: you know what, he played poorly, Let's get rid of him. 132 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: I'd take it as the opposite based off the news 133 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: that Baker is expected to play this week, that they 134 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: needed more of a roster spot as opposed to, hey, 135 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: let's send a message because with Baker up, well, is 136 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: there really a need right now for a Curtis Riley 137 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: to be on the active roster. Yeah, and the Cardinals 138 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: have made some roster moves on Saturday. They're they're leaving 139 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: on a Friday, so you know, obviously, you know, if 140 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: they feel like they got to bring a guy there 141 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: and he could be inactive, but it wouldn't surprise me 142 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: a TJ. Ward now you know, he hasn't played in 143 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: a couple of years. He's got to get adapted. I'm 144 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: sure he's got to get into football shape. But the 145 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: goodness is Buddhist coming back Deontay Thompson. I think he's 146 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: played better. I like the way he tackled earlier that 147 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: game after line of scrimmage, wasn't afraid. And then you know, 148 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: good old Chuck Charles Washington. You know, he said it's 149 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: not too much for him. He knows that when his 150 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: numbers called, you know, whether he's a corner or safety, 151 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: definitely he's going to be active on game day as 152 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: special team. So you know, it's there's not a lot 153 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: of depth after Deantey Thompson and Buddha Baker, but you 154 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: got some guys that are flexible, and you know, it 155 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me about Ward, but I think it's more 156 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: of a football thing from that he has played for 157 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: Vans and then be what kind of football shape he is. 158 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: And really, these guys have been in camp with him 159 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: since day one and they know the system, they know 160 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: the special team's assignment. So maybe he's still a week away, 161 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: but it's a good dilemma to have and hopefully Banjo 162 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: and Jalen Thompson come back because Jalen Thompson's eligible to 163 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: come off the i R this week. But again, getting 164 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: Buddha back is huge without stating the obvious, and then 165 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: maybe in the next couple of weeks you get all 166 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: three of those guys active on game day. I like 167 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: Washington's added tode as well, his first significant defense of 168 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: snaps in about three four years. Yet, as he said, 169 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: and you mentioned, you always got to be prepared. And 170 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: then what helped him out? He said, he made a 171 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: play early in that ball game, and then at that 172 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: point it's like, okay, everything, it's like riding a bike. 173 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: Everything comes back to you. But it does show you 174 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: that even though he's been more a special teams player 175 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: with the Cardinals and for his career, he's in meeting rooms, 176 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: he's paying attention, and he is keeping up if needed, 177 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: if called upon. Although he did mention and it was 178 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: kind of subtle, he's prepared to play defense again. But quote, 179 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: we have players returning to play those spots end quote. 180 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: So maybe a little bit of a window into the 181 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: thinking of the Cardinals defense. But a Baker, maybe Banjo, 182 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: maybe Thompson. So he wouldn't be necessary this week. Yeah, 183 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: and we go back to last year when the Cardinals 184 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: had the first overall waiver claim, they went out and 185 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: got Kevin Peterston, and to me, they had to make 186 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: a decision on Chris Jones, and you know, he's I 187 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: think he's in Detroit right now, so from that standpoint, 188 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: but they were normally special teams players and then you know, 189 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: obviously Tanor Vallejo and um, yeah, you know, I'd be 190 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: careious to see if Ezekiel Turner can get some roughs 191 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: because I think he's definitely improved as a football player, 192 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: not just a special teams guy. But obviously there's a 193 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: log jam at the inside linebacker spot starting with Hicks 194 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: and Campbell and then Simmons and then he got Tanner. 195 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: Vallejo's a really good special teams player. So but yeah, 196 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: I mean, there's certain areas where you can afford some 197 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: injuries and you got some depth, but that safety position 198 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: really affect them in those last couple of games. One 199 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: more note on that safety position, as we talk a 200 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: lot about that position here on this Wednesday edition of 201 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyunday, proud partner of the 202 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, Ken Trell Bryce restored to the practice squad 203 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: from the practice squad injured reserve list. Remember it was 204 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: during the Red and White practice in training camp that 205 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: he hurt his ankle. He had been someone that was 206 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: making some noise, making some plays. So you do now 207 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: have some depth specifically on that practice squad with Ward, 208 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: Riley and Bryce in the event you need it, knock 209 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: on Wood, the Cardinals don't. The other roster moved. The 210 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: team made running back Jonathan Ward elevated to the active roster. 211 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: This was a move that was either going to happen 212 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: or they were going to lose him because he'd been 213 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: promoted to the active roster from the practice squad twice 214 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: already and on the third time, then you have to 215 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: make a decision. Cardinals certainly like him in special teams, 216 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: and I think the trickle down with this is and 217 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: some double fans might not like to hear it, but 218 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: you know, Benjamin, he might be inactive once again as 219 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: he kind of struggles to figure out a role, and 220 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: right now it's not going to be ahead of a 221 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake or Chase Edmonds and does he play special team? 222 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: Ward right now would appear to be ahead of Benjamin 223 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: and that aspect. Yeah, And to me, Benjamin's too similar 224 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: to Chase Edmons and they're trying to get more touches 225 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: for Chase Edmon. He didn't win the kickoff return job. 226 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me if he's inactive unless they have 227 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: injuries at the position. And Jonathan mored who I kind 228 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,599 Speaker 1: of compared it to Andre Ellington. I think he's a 229 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: little bit thicker. He's more of a Kenyan Drake. So 230 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: if in the perfect scenario, you get a lead in 231 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and you don't want to, you know, 232 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: run Kenny and Drake into the ground. Wards a guy 233 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: I like his size. He wears the same number as Ellington, 234 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: He's got the similar hair. It's unfortunately for Benjamin and 235 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: the Colonels were thrilled that he was another seventh round 236 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: and you know, but he's got to find a role. 237 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: They don't have a third down back. He doesn't play 238 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: on teams. Ward plays on teams. I know they're really 239 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: excited about Ward. So if something did happen to Drake 240 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: or they can, you know, get a lead in the 241 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, you would you would see Ward. I thought 242 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: he had a really good camp. I think he sticks 243 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: his nose down in a low pad level when he's running. 244 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: So it's a numbers game, and unfortunately, you know, Benjamin's 245 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: is going to have to, you know, try to find 246 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: a role moving forward, kind of like DJ Foster, but 247 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: Foster was more of a special teams player. He wasn't 248 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: really getting any offensive ups but he was playing on 249 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: like fifteen to eighteen special teams. And you know, Benjamin's 250 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: a little bit different size, and you know, a Chase, 251 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: I just think they're two similar skill set and clearly 252 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: Chases obviously has more upset and maybe a long term 253 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: play here with Benjamin. Don't forget Kenyan Drake on a 254 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: one year deal, so a decision has to be made 255 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: with respects to his future at the end of this season. 256 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: And I'll go back to Evan Weaver as well. The 257 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: draft pick out of cal didn't make the act of 258 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 1: roster currently on the practice squad, and that certainly is 259 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: a sign that they see something in these young players 260 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: to develop, if not now, later this season or of 261 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: course next season. Yeah, you'd love to see a rookies play. 262 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: We chronicled it on Monday Show. As far as how 263 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: many of the young players on the Panthers defense we're playing, 264 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: but sometimes those players aren't needed right now and you 265 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: look more long term. Well, Benjamin though quickly. I mean, 266 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: they could try to slide him on the practice squad, 267 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: but they feel like maybe he would get claimed. I 268 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: mean again, maybe a team had a fifth round, sixth 269 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: round grade at him and they had to go in 270 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: a different direction. But you know, as long as he 271 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: continues to practice and show his upside, I mean, yeah, 272 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: he wants to play. I mean, it's got to be 273 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: frustrating when you practice all week and you don't get 274 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: a chance. But it maybe a renshret ear for him 275 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: and then you know, next year he try to pick 276 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: up some special team stuff. But I do like if 277 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: they can get Kenyan Drake going and change the pace 278 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: in Chase and Jonathan war I think they got something there. 279 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: Third Gang, make sure you update to the Lettus version 280 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: of the Cardinals mobile app today. The update features an 281 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: all new redesign home screen experience. Visit ac cardinals dot 282 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: com slash app for more. A couple of notes on 283 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: the Jets offensively. We'll dive deeper into that side of 284 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: the ball tomorrow when Vance Joseph addresses the media, But 285 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: two news items that Cardinal fans need to know. The 286 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: Jets did announce. Adam Gase I watched his press conference 287 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: this morning, announced Joe Flacco will be the starting quarterback. 288 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold already ruled out with that shoulder injury. Quoting Gays, 289 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: we went through our process, our doctor's second opinions, just 290 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: making sure we do the right thing, not only by 291 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: him meaning Darnald, but just the immediate future, long term 292 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: end quote. There was a follow up as well, MG, 293 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: about now with Flacco as your quarterback, how much does 294 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: that change the offense? And of course Gay says they 295 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: won't change at all. Now whether it does or not, 296 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: I think we'll find out hunt Sunday. But certainly you're 297 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: looking at a young, third year quarterback versus a veteran 298 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,239 Speaker 1: of eleven plus years. I believe this is his thirteenth 299 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: season after spending last year with the Broncos. Some experience, 300 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: but maybe more of a stationary guy in that pocket. Yeah, 301 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: it sounds like he wanted I think he want Donald 302 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: this weekend. Well, if you're an injured quarterback versus a 303 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: healthy quarterback, charl why not Donald? He struggled so far. Um, 304 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: you know Flacco, he missed a lot of time in 305 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: the offseason. He's coming up back surgery. You know, he 306 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: can spend the ball down the field. I would say 307 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: he's a statue of liberty, so to speak. Lady on 308 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: Bell is practary. He's doing more activities, but it doesn't 309 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: appear he's ready to play this Sunday. So, I mean, 310 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: they got some weapons. I just think if you're the Cardinals, 311 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: I mean make were talked about making them one dimensional. 312 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: He's not going to try to run. He's definitely not 313 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: the athletic quarterback to Donald Is or even a guy 314 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: like Josh Josh Hamlin. So yeah, I mean, whoever it is, 315 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to be on their ps and ques 316 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: because you know, let's be honest. He won a Super 317 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: Bowl that year, and they played in four playoff games 318 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: and he won eleven touchdowns, zero interceptions. And I remember 319 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: that play with the thing it was Jakobe Jakobe Jacobs 320 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: or Jones that when they beat the Broncos and Peyton 321 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: Manning and that in that divisional game. So he went on, 322 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: he got on a roll. Um. He obviously was benched 323 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: in Baltimore. Um, you know, his touchdown the interception ratio 324 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,719 Speaker 1: wasn't very good and obviously they put a lot of 325 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: investment in Lamar Jackson. So but he isn't experienced quarterback. 326 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: It's I don't think you're going to show him something 327 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: that he hasn't noticed in the past. But you know, 328 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: like we talked about a you know on the Red 329 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: Sea report and also carts cover two. Um, is that 330 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: try to get a lead, you know, because those they 331 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: got some distractions there. I mean, guys, if Adam Gates 332 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: brought you in and Joe Douglas is still the GM, 333 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta wonder what your future is like, 334 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: get it. So jump on him early. Not saying they're 335 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: gonna roll over, but you know, guys will start playing 336 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: where where they're playing for themselves or they're playing not 337 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: to get injured. Could also see a new running back. 338 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: Levon Bell was back on the practice field today and 339 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: they've designated him as being able to return from ir. 340 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: He suffered a hamstring injury in Week one against the Bills. 341 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: Whether he's available this week or not, who knows. But 342 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: someone to pay attention to is we follow that storyline 343 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: this week. But big picture. When you look at these 344 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: two head coaches, Cliff Kingsbury and Adam Gays, there is 345 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: a connection, mj. They each interviewed for each other's job, 346 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: so to speak, Kingsbury with the Jets and the Cardinals, 347 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: and then Gaze with the Cardinals with the Jets. Cardinals 348 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: end up with Kingsbury and the Jets hired Gays. Now 349 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,719 Speaker 1: there is another part of this story as well, And 350 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: we've pulled the curtain back on this a few times, 351 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: and I think it's worth mentioning again here on this 352 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Coming to And that is when all 353 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: this was happening a couple of years back. Everyone wanted 354 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: to know where Kingsbury was and what the Cardinals were doing, 355 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: and who was interviewing with which team. And yet on 356 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: this particular Tuesday, just ahead of the Red Sea report 357 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: with myself, you and Bertram Berry, a helicopter landed on 358 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: the practice field at the facility in Tempe. It was 359 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: Michael Bidwell's helicopter and outstepped not only the owner but 360 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury. Now this was about ten minutes after reports 361 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: surface that Kingsbury was still in New York interviewing with 362 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: the Jets. Yet we looked outside the window and see 363 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: Kingsbury and Arizona and they're like, all right, well, we 364 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: know that report's inaccurate. So that was about what fifteen 365 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 1: twenty minutes before showtime. The show starts, MJ. We go 366 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: through We're talking about the coaching search, the candidates, those 367 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: have been interviewed, those that are expected to interview, and 368 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: unbeknownst to us during that first segment, well, Michael Bidwell 369 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: walks into the radio studio along with Kingsbury and our 370 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: producer Jim Amhundro. It's like, yes, welcome, and this is 371 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: what we're doing. We've got a live radio show right now, 372 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: to which and Olms tells us perfectly because at that 373 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: point Michael said, oh, we weren't here, and he laughed 374 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 1: and winked a little bit. We find out during the 375 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: break that this is all going on, and at that point, MJ. 376 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: I started thinking, all right, what did I just say 377 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: about Kingsbury? What did I just say about the potential 378 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: hire of this college head coach to be an NFL 379 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: head coach. And I think at the moment that Kingsbury 380 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: walked in, Bertrand Berry was speaking, so I felt a 381 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: little bit better about myself. So he didn't say he 382 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: had a losing record in college. No, but I've always 383 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: said that we take a little bit of credit because 384 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: of the first stop in the facility was the radio studio, 385 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: which he is now in a lot, as are a 386 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: lot of the players. But his first image, his first 387 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: impression and of the Arizona Cardinals, was the Cardinals Red 388 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: Sea Report. Okay, so a little background. Kingsbury gets fired 389 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: lost to Matt Rule. I guess we found that out, 390 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: and then he takes a job with USC But then 391 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: also his name is being mentioned for end coaching positions, 392 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: represents the same agent with Kyler Murray and Eric Burkhardt. 393 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: And so he goes to New York and then the 394 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: reports were that the Jets were trying to give him 395 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: back to the facility because you know, sometimes you take 396 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: him off for dinner, and at that time it was fine, 397 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, kind of feeling out meet and greet process 398 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: dropping back off the hotel. He probably looked at the 399 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: roster and you know, I don't know about the salary cat. 400 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: But so they wanted to pick him up in the morning, 401 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: and Michael Bidwell had he had his private plane on 402 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: the runway there and so he was able to bring 403 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: him to Arizona. But I think it was important for 404 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: a Cliff to go on an interview because you know, 405 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals felt like, you know, if they're 406 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: going to get Kyler Murray, if that was an option, 407 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of fluids to a situation. But 408 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: it made total sense, and I think they made the 409 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: right higher. You know, even though they you know, they 410 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: haven't won a lot of games under Kingsbury and Murray, 411 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: but when you look at Sam Donald's gone through and 412 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: it could be more maybe just don't have the weapons, 413 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: maybe the coaching's have the same. But I think they 414 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: definitely made the right decision going with Kingsbury over added case. 415 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question about that. And then 416 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: you start to think about what might have been if 417 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: it was the opposite gaze here and Kingsbury in New York. 418 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: We know Kyler Murray likely would not have been the 419 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: selection with the first overall pick. It would have been 420 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: Bosa because you already had Josh Rosen as your quarterback. 421 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: So it's all interesting when you try to kind of 422 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: connect the dots after the fact. So it was a 423 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: little bit of history, at least for us, because we 424 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: were still kind of new as far as full time 425 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: employees organization. It was year two for me and that 426 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: was kind of the first behind the scenes look at 427 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: how stuff is done and then how stuff kind of 428 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: gets reported. Yeah, and again, I think the reason why 429 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: the Jets were probably somewhat intriguing is because they didn't 430 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: have a young quarterback, but Kyler Murray and Sam Donald. 431 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,239 Speaker 1: I mean, there are totally two different quarterbacks, and if 432 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: Kingsbury wanted to run his office, it had to be 433 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. So, like I said, I think they 434 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: made the right hire and I think they obviously took 435 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: the right quarterback. Yeah. Kingsbury was asked if he was 436 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: surprised that the Cardinals and Jets had both interviewed him 437 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: after he was fired by Texas Tech, and his one 438 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: word response was no, and then there was a little 439 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: bit of a smile and maybe of a half chuckle. 440 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: So I don't know if he was if he had 441 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: more on his mind to say and chose not to, 442 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: But maybe one day we'll kind of get more of 443 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: the behind the scenes, because that's always fun when you 444 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: can go back and try to figure out how things 445 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: played out, burd Gang. Subscribe to Arizona Cardinals podcast on 446 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google podcast, Stitcher, and SoundCloud. Listen to 447 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: your paper shows on the go like Cardinals Underground, a 448 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: Big Red Rage, The Cardinals Red Sea Report, and of 449 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: course this show Cardinals Cover two visit as Cardinals dot 450 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: Com Slash podcast for more information. The other connection between 451 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: these two teams, it's not a great connection, but we 452 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: do have to address the elephant in the room, if 453 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: you will, MJ, and that is Jets defensive coordinator Greg Williams. First, 454 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: what Kingsbury had to say about coach Williams quote, I'm 455 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: not that familiar with coach Williams, first time going against him, 456 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: but accomplished coach in this league, no question. Very physical, 457 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: very aggressive nature of defense. Those guys play hard, they 458 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: play physical, and you know what you're going to get. 459 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: End quote. A very safe answer to a question because 460 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: we all know the background of coach Williams and specifically 461 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: looking at what is happening with the Jets right now. 462 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: But let's go back, MJ. We were all covering the 463 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: team in two thousand and nine. Williams, the Saints defensive 464 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: coordinator playoff matchup against the Cardinals, Kurt Warner throws an interception, 465 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: gets hit. Final game in the career of Kurt Warner. 466 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: And yes, some believe that was the start of Saints 467 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: bounty gates, which didn't get kind of to the public 468 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: front until twenty twelve. That was all under coach Williams, 469 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: and then from the Saints he goes to the Rams 470 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator from twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen, and it 471 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: was in that twenty fifteen excuse me, the twenty fourteen season, 472 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer hurt in Week nine, though it was non contact. 473 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: Drew Stanton hurt in week fifteen. So I don't know. 474 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: There's a little part of me, MJ that is concerned 475 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray against the Jets defense. And also, don't 476 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: forget Metlive Stadium. The forty nine ers complained about that 477 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: turf as well. Yeah, and the NFL went out there 478 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: a few different times, and I don't it sounds like 479 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: it's a new turf for it's got to be worked 480 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: in now. You do have two franchises playing there, so 481 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: he would think. But they've gone out there at least 482 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: on two different occasions, and they say that it's up 483 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: the standards. So but teams have complained about that, and 484 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: you don't want to have any injuries, whether it's the Jets, Cardinals, 485 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: or any other thirty other teams. Greg Williams, I mean, 486 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: he's kind of beats to his own drum. I mean, 487 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: you know what you're getting when you bring in Greg 488 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: Williams and his defenses are usually physical players kind of 489 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: take the personality of their coordinator. But he also likes 490 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: to play the echo of the whistle and those personal fouls. 491 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean it's not like Greg Williams 492 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: is going to be on the field saying Kyle's going 493 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: to protect himself because they will at times play the 494 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: echo of the whistle. One I mean by that is 495 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: they'll lay a hit out and it won't just beyond 496 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback, could beyond any players. So they have to 497 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: be you have to have your head on a swivel 498 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: with that Jets defense because again, they're obviously gonna have 499 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: to go out there and try to pitch a shut 500 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: out or give up less points because the offense really 501 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: doesn't score a ton of points. Well, we saw what 502 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: happened on Thursday Night football against the Broncos. The Jets 503 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: penalized eleven times for one hundred and eighteen yards. Six 504 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: of those penalties were fifteen yard penalties, including three roughing 505 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: the passer calls. Overall this season, I went back and 506 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: looked at MJ The Jets have been penalized seven times 507 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: for roughing the passer in just four games. Adam Gates 508 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: was asked about the penalties, and all he answered was, quote, 509 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: it's going to be corrected. We're going to do it right. 510 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: We're going to get it fixed. And quote so to 511 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: your point about Murray being aware of this and being protected, because, 512 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: let's face it, the young Broncos quarterback Brett Rippon, he 513 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: got beat up a lot, especially late in that game 514 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: when it was already decided. The Jets kind of took 515 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 1: it upon themselves to kind of rub it in just 516 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: a little bit. They weren't going to get the win, 517 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: but they were going to get their pound to flesh. 518 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: And now is when Fangil took his team off the field. 519 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: Didn't want them to go shaking hands. Yeah. I mean, 520 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: it's just again, I just think sometimes they they crossed, 521 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: they crossed the rules, so to speak. And again they 522 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: do take on the person of their coordinator. And let's 523 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: be honest, Craig Colin. Murray took some hits in that 524 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: previous game. That was the first time one came from 525 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: the backside, and he clearly the player landed on him 526 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: and his shoulder and then he took another hit. So 527 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: or he didn't really was a good job with the 528 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: baseball background with sliding and you know, going down or sitting. 529 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: But he did take some hits last week. Do you 530 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: think we didn't talk about this on the postgame show 531 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: or on Monday, but do you think for the first 532 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: time this season those hits might have affected some of 533 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: either his decision making or play calling. We didn't get 534 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: a lot of answers from either the coach or the 535 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: quarterback today when we try to ask, you know, what's 536 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: going on with this offense. They all kind of held 537 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: it close to the vest because Murray was a little bit, 538 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, vague. Yeah, that's good, that's a good 539 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: word for it as far as people were looking for answers, 540 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: and he's not really willing to give answers right now. 541 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: But I was just wondering you brought it up because 542 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: it was the first time that we'd really seen him 543 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: get knocked around in the pocket. Yeah, and he's wearing 544 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: a band aid on his chin, so he must have 545 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: a cut now, every quarterback throughout your careers, because a 546 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: lot of times the defensive lineman or the guy who's 547 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: gonna hit you, he's gonna get that helmu unto your chin. 548 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: So it looks like he's got a cut on his chin. 549 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: He's wearing a mask what he did after the game 550 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: on Sunday. He was wearing a mask when he met 551 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: with us on Wednesday. But he I noticed that practice 552 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: he had a bandage, one of those big bandages on 553 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: his chin. So he must have a cutout on. You 554 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: don't usually they could sit set up on the sidelines. 555 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything like that, but that was the 556 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: first game. I don't. I think he's such a competitor, 557 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: or maybe it jolts him up, like, hey, okay, I 558 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: took that hit. I can withstand it. But I don't. 559 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: I don't think it affects him to where he's going 560 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: to be gunshi. Well, he's been very honest with us 561 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: that he does not like to get hit. He's not 562 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer to wear. Hey, yeah, sometimes you know a 563 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: good hit will kind of wake me up or getting ready. 564 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: He wants to avoid any and all contact and every 565 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: quarterback should be like that. But I'm just saying, you know, 566 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: like that was the biggest hit and he got up. Okay, 567 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: I can I can do this. I mean, I'm I'm 568 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: going to protect my body nine out of ten times. Now, 569 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: he's going to be looking at a Jets defense. As 570 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: we kind of look at some of the numbers. A 571 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: year ago, this defense ranked seventh and number two against 572 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: the run. Currently their number eighteen and twenty seconds against 573 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: the run. Now, the biggest difference with this Jets defense 574 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: is the fact that Jamal Adams is now playing for 575 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. For whatever reason, you trade in all pro safety. 576 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: Probably not the smartest decision, but it certainly has affected 577 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: the back end of that Jets defense because teams now 578 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: are throwing on the Jets and throwing a lot, yeah 579 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: and right now, and they're when it comes to their 580 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: defense in the passing game, they're fifteenth, not bad, two forty, 581 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: but they're giving up a ton of points thirty two 582 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: point eight. So I mean the Cardinals they would love 583 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: to score in the thirties and that means they would 584 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: win that football games as a whole. They're giving up 585 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty eight yards a game, one twenty 586 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: nine the ground and two in the air. They don't 587 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: have that seems like they don't have a ton of sacks, 588 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: and so this should help the Cardinals offensive line and 589 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: if they want to go with that hurry up offense 590 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: and run those RPOs. I think this will play into 591 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: the hands of the Cardinals offense maybe starting to click, 592 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: because you know, we can't use the you know, the 593 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,959 Speaker 1: preseason anymore. We can't use every team is played four games, 594 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: so well some I guess Tennessee hasn't played for and 595 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: Steelers haven't played for but you know what I'm you 596 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: know where I'm going there. So but yeah, I mean, 597 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: I just think this is a game where maybe get 598 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: your confidence up. You mentioned the sack total. They don't 599 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: have a sack in either the last two games and 600 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: just six on the season, and they've had difficulty getting 601 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: opposing offenses off the field. They allow forty seven percent 602 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: on third down, which ranks twenty fourth in the league. 603 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: And it is the yeah, well the red zone. They're 604 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: allowing ten touchdowns in seventeen trips. Yep, so bird Gang, 605 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: you can do the math. That's that's not a good percentage. 606 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: As a results there allowing almost thirty three points to 607 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: imposing teams and the Cardinals have only at the thirty 608 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: point mark once and that was against Washington exactly. And 609 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: you know, obviously when you have to turnovers like they 610 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: had in the Lions game. But or yeah, the Lions game, 611 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, I just think this this is 612 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: I feel like if the Cardinals could just cut down 613 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: the mental mistakes, become a better tackling team, and I 614 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: think just having Buddha on the field, he'll bring some energy. 615 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: This is a game where I think they can build 616 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: some confidence because we know it's not going to get 617 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: easier with Seattle and the Cowboys. So I like to 618 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: see this team and I'll play a clean, free game. 619 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,719 Speaker 1: Cut down the penalties and negative plays because when they 620 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: get behind the sticks, it's difficult for this team to 621 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: pick up a first down when you're not you know, 622 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: he's not very he hasn't been accurate on the ten 623 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: of the nineteen yard routes fifty. But you know, the 624 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,439 Speaker 1: more they play together, I think they'll be fine. It's 625 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: just you want to see this team start clicking, though 626 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 1: Murray about last week, quote last week was one week 627 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: we're not panicking and quote, So we'll see if this 628 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: offense can get on track this week. This will also 629 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: be the first opportunity to see Quinnon Williams in action 630 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: up close and personal. And remember a couple of years ago, 631 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: it was well, if the Cardinals go offense, it's going 632 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: to be quarterback Kyle the Murray. But if they go 633 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 1: defense is at Nick Bosa, is at Quinn and Williams. 634 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: And there was a debate, There was a lot of 635 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: discussion even all the way going to the Combine in February, 636 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: as far as those three, which direction would the Cardinals go? 637 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: And you certainly talk about a space theater. Quinn and 638 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: Williams has been pretty good. Yes, he got flagged a 639 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: couple of times against the Broncos, but a little bit 640 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: of a slow start in his career. But I think 641 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 1: he's trying to find finally getting the of it, especially 642 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: when it comes to stopping the run and getting a 643 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: little pressure up the middle. Yeah, and they need that. 644 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they let Leonard Williams go. He 645 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: went to the Giants um you know, According to reports, 646 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: Steve called all three on draft day. He called the Bosa, 647 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: he called Williams, and he called Murray just to let 648 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: them know that they hadn't made a decision at that point. 649 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: But you know, obviously, I think Murray was always the 650 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: leader in the clubhouse. And I always say, if you 651 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: were going to draft Nick Bosa, that means you to 652 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: have Josh frozen. And I think they made the right decision. Yeah, 653 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: And I certainly wouldn't totally understand the think thought process 654 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: with Williams as well, depending on what you need and 655 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: how you project but Bosa certainly projected as one of 656 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: those generational talents on the defensive end, and he certainly 657 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: proved that in year one. Now Here in year two 658 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: though he's watching like you and I watch on Sundays 659 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: from the sidelines. Yeah, and there was some some some 660 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: questions about red flags just because you know what happened 661 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: in college, and you know, his brother's dealt with some injuries, 662 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: his father dealt with injuries, so the family jeans obviously 663 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: when his father was an offensive lineman back in seventy 664 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: two with the Dolphins, and Joey's had a really good 665 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: career and Nick will have a good career, but there 666 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: were there there were some questions and maybe when you 667 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: look at Quentin Williams, I think he I don't think 668 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: he had any red flags when the King did prior injuries, 669 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: so I think he was in the conversation, but clearly 670 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: pass rusher over defensive tackle that high in the draft. 671 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 1: It is a Wednesday edition of Cardinals Cover two presented 672 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: by Hunday, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Before we 673 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: close up shop, m Jay, let there be no doubts 674 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 1: in anyone's mind from here on out. For as long 675 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: as DeAndre Hopkins is in a Cardinals uniform, if he 676 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: doesn't practice, it means absolutely nothing. Darren Irvan, our colleague 677 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: on Easy Cardinals dot Com, asked Hopkins earlier today how 678 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: the ankle was and was there ever a doubt that 679 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: he would miss last week's contest. Quote. I don't miss 680 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 1: games unless I just have one leg or something. End quote. 681 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm not concerned. We've talked about it. Is it a 682 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: good look? No? But the man produces on Sundays. I know, 683 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: but I still think we talk about this air raid offense, reps, reps, reps, reps, 684 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: reps and execution. I get it. He shows up on 685 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 1: game day, so but I think there's more to just 686 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: playing on game date. He obviously is in meetings and 687 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: he's out there, but I and Larry gets off on Wednesdays, 688 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: so it's not like, you know, and that's their big 689 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: install day Wednesdays and Thursday, so you know, if they 690 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: had him an agreement, they obviously are comfortable with it 691 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: because you know he's gonna show up on game day. 692 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: But I would I like to see him practice a 693 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: little bit more, just to get kind of get everyone 694 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: because we talk about rhythm and being in sync and 695 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 1: clearly they're not there yet. Doesn't mean it can't have 696 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: over the next couple of weeks, though. Did you notice anything. 697 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: Did the ankle appeared to slow him down. I know 698 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: there's a lot of bubble screens, but we've been seeing 699 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: that for four weeks now, so that didn't kind of 700 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: raise any red flags as far as, oh, you know what, 701 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: he can't go north and southwith Get him the ball 702 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: and the sidelines and let him see what he can do. 703 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: I didn't notice. I noticed sometimes when he came to 704 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: the sidelines he wasn't happy, though, and that was maybe 705 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: because they were going three and out, or maybe clearly 706 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: he gets his member called so that it's not about 707 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: targets and touches for him, it's about mooning the chains 708 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: where he gets another opportunity to catch a football. And 709 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: you know, you know, he's put up big numbers, but 710 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: he only has one touchdown and he got stopped at 711 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: the one yard line. But I think he's just a 712 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: little flushuter that things aren't clicking. But I did watch 713 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: him go to the sidelines and he kind of keeps himself. 714 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 1: He says one of the defenses on the field, he's 715 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: just worrying about the next possession, what they can do, 716 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: obviously to get in the end zone. And I think 717 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: it's along the same lines as of what we've seen 718 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: from Kyle the Murray when he gets frustrated. And yeah, 719 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: you certainly don't want to bottle those emotions in. Sometimes 720 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: it's good to let it out. Yet at the same time, 721 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 1: you know, camera catches you or you're spotted and the 722 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: look isn't great. But hey, if something goes wrong, we 723 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: all get frustrated and we all show our emotions. But 724 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: as you said, Hopkins said, it's the next drive, all right. 725 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,919 Speaker 1: We didn't work. Now let's change it up and let's 726 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: worry about the next drive. And I would say Kyle 727 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 1: Murray is much the same way. Well last year, remember 728 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: there were times when he comes to the sidelines and 729 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: you know he would wanting to be by himself, and 730 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: then Kingsbury at some point when the defense was on 731 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: the field, he'd go over there and talk about it. 732 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: As they're getting closer to on the field, he'd be 733 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: next to him because it, let's be honest, Kindo's got 734 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: a hundred things going on on Sundays. I mean protection, 735 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: you know knows he has to leave his team. He's 736 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: a piece of the franchise. So but I don't think 737 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: he shies away from it. I think he I think 738 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: he plays under the under the spotlight very well, like 739 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 1: it's not gonna get to him. He's been he's been 740 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: the guy since he's been six or seven years old. 741 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: So I like that about him. And you know, sometimes 742 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: you just got a cool off. You don't want to 743 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: say something that you know it is going to fend someone, 744 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: so you just you know, do your thing and then 745 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: when you get ready to go back on the field, Hey, 746 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: let's let's go all eleve him, so let's go. Yeah, 747 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: he's always had every single eyeball on him and a 748 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: lot on his shoulders since he first stepped foot on 749 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: a football field. And that cons being the first overall pick, well, yeah, 750 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: certainly there's an expectation, and even more so when you're 751 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: the quarterback with the first overall pick the franchise, you 752 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: hold all the cards when it comes to that. On 753 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: that note, we will put a lid on this edition 754 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover too, presented by Hyundai, probably partner of 755 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Coming up tomorrow, we will focus on 756 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: how the Cardinals defense kind of matches up against the 757 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: Jets offense. Certainly, much like the Jets defense, there are 758 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: a lot of issues on the other side of the 759 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: ball for that New York team. We'll see what happens 760 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 1: on Sunday Special. Thanks as always to our executive producer 761 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: Jim momahundro for Mike Jarecki. I'm Craig Riel Loup. We'll 762 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: talk to you next time you're on Cardinals Cover two.