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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we

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Speaker 1: are going to get into genetic tests like Ancestry or

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Speaker 1: twenty three and me that show people who have children

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Speaker 1: they didn't know about, including a very famous father. Tray

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Speaker 1: Cyrus is accusing his ex of faking really serious things

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Speaker 1: like cancer and pregnancy. I didn't realize who this chick

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Speaker 1: was either, so that we're going to get into talking

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Speaker 1: about that a little bit. Of course, we have to

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Speaker 1: talk about Maria's favorite topic in the world, which is

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Speaker 1: the Titanic submersible. There's new news coming out that it

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Speaker 1: may be a planned it may have been a planned suicide,

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Speaker 1: like is the did you hear that before today?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy, And the unusual effect ozepic seems to be

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Speaker 1: having on men's penises. All that and more on today's episode,

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Speaker 1: Let's get started with this very famous dad who just

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Speaker 1: found out that he's a dad again.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So Billy Idel has a new documentary coming out

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Speaker 4: and in it he revealed that he found out in

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Speaker 4: his sixties he had a third child. So all this

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Speaker 4: time he thought he was only the father of two kids,

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Speaker 4: a boy and their girl, who are now in their

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Speaker 4: mid thirties. So when his daughter became a mother, she

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Speaker 4: got really interested in exploring their family tree. Her husband

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Speaker 4: had bought her a gift for twenty three and Me

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Speaker 4: DNA kid, and then when she did it, she ended

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Speaker 4: up pinging this brother.

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Speaker 1: Yeah and so the brother at the same time, he

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Speaker 1: didn't what was the question? He didn't He had a

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Speaker 1: question of who his dad was too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I guess when he did twenty three and Me.

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Speaker 4: Prior to this, he found out that his biological father,

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Speaker 4: who he thought was his biology father, was not. So

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Speaker 4: then he asked his mom about it and she said, well,

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Speaker 4: I'm not really sure, but believe it or not. Back

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Speaker 4: in the eighties, I had a weekend with Billy Idol.

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Speaker 4: And of course, if your mom's telling you something like that,

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Speaker 4: you're probably like, you're totally making this up, like you

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Speaker 4: wouldn't even believe it. But it turns out in this

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Speaker 4: case it was true.

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Speaker 1: The whole thing is so crazy to me because it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he said to his mom, like, is there anyone else

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Speaker 1: that could be Like she didn't think that he because

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Speaker 1: he looks like him. Yeah, in the picture, like there

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Speaker 1: was no thing that she was like, Oh no, he

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Speaker 1: looks like a little bit like Billy Idol. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: So I mean it's good that it's cool that he's

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Speaker 1: like embracing him though, one hundred percent, because sometimes you

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Speaker 1: hear stories about that that. I just saw an article

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Speaker 1: actually about Arnold Schwarzenegger had this photo with all of

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Speaker 1: his kids on it, but like the other kid got snubbed,

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Speaker 1: you know, the one with the well I've talked about that,

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Speaker 1: the one with it with the cleaning lady. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: a housekeeper. So yeah, I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: I think it's super cool he's embracing it because his

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Speaker 4: daughter has a couple of kids, and then his long

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Speaker 4: lost son has a couple of kids. So he's like

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Speaker 4: fully embracing having a third child and being the grandfather

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Speaker 4: to these grandkids he didn't know about either. So that's

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Speaker 4: pretty cool. I mean, because this happens to a bunch

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Speaker 3: I know it does.

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Speaker 1: And I guess, like being a married person to a guy, right,

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Speaker 1: you're just kind of like, I guess this could just

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Speaker 1: creep up any day, like you don't really ever know, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's I mean, it's like it's kind of scary

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Speaker 1: actually that there's really interesting things and like what's up

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Speaker 1: with twenty three and me? Anyway? Because I got another

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Speaker 1: email from them saying something about the bankruptcy.

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Speaker 4: Thing, Like I think that another company just bought them out,

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Speaker 4: so they're gonna be taking over operations or at least

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Speaker 4: the day is gonna be secure for some time, which

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Speaker 4: is everybody's concerned obviously.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's it sucks because I think I

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Speaker 1: I do think it is it's helpful. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure that test is terrible for some people that find out,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, like it worked out well in

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Speaker 1: your whole life and then finding out he's not your

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Speaker 1: So it's just I don't know, I think it's a

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Speaker 1: good thing because it finds certain genes that people have

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Speaker 1: for something. It's pretty cool, you know what I was

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Speaker 1: thinking though when I saw this sale. Weren't they at

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Speaker 1: then they only got sold. I'm saying only, like, I know,

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Speaker 1: this is a large amount of money, but they sold

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Speaker 1: for about two hundred million dollars. So I just think

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Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy that you're companies worth so much

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Speaker 1: they're probably giving it away for a good deal, because

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Speaker 1: And I mean I just can't even fathom that amount

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Speaker 1: like trillions of dollars, Like, it's really hard to wrap

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Speaker 4: Well obviously, and by saying two hundred million dollars isn't

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Speaker 4: a lot, I mean compared to the evaluation. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's like a crazy amount money.

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Speaker 1: Great, so let's get into this next story because this

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Speaker 1: is like I didn't realize that this that this woman

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Speaker 1: I thought she looked familiar and it was. It said

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Speaker 1: don't really know who she was from a child Well,

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Speaker 4: So Trey Cyrus, who is Miley Cyrus's brother, and Brenda

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Speaker 4: Song who we're talking about in this story, we're in

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so that's why I saw her because he

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Speaker 1: recently didn't he just like this year get the Hollywood Star.

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Speaker 4: Well, she's not a nobody. She's in a really successful

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Speaker 3: So she's not like them as a child star in

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, that's that I recognized her from

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is all really weird how this went down.

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Speaker 4: So I guess somebody left a comment on TRACE's Instagram saying, ah,

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Speaker 4: we know why Brenda left, and then he replied to

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Speaker 4: from me and faked multiple pregnancies and lied about being

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Speaker 4: all a lie. She was humiliated to ever show her

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Speaker 4: and my mom confronted her and called her out on it.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for reminding me of another scenario where I was

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Speaker 4: a great, loving person and someone did me wrong for

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Speaker 1: She he said that she had said that she got

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Speaker 1: her bandages and she had no surgery. Yeah, So he

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Speaker 4: So he leaves the comments that I just said and

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Speaker 4: He also said there's more proof of how fucked in

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Speaker 3: And why did this one.

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Speaker 4: Comment just set him off on this rampage to finally

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's kind of juicy, honestly, like

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Speaker 1: perfect person to be with them? McCaulay culkin.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that is a really interesting theory. I didn't

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Speaker 4: even really think about that, that they're both like distressed

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Speaker 3: That are now together.

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Speaker 4: But I think people have really been idolizing their relationship

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Speaker 3: Maybe she grew out of it. How do you grow

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Speaker 3: out of behavior like this? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe this is like a weird thing to

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Speaker 1: they could totally like play off this role and and

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Speaker 1: get away with it. The abortion and the fake blood

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Speaker 4: She had her an abortion whatever he said, an abortion

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Speaker 4: with fake blood?

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Speaker 3: Well he I.

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Speaker 4: Feel like he probably meant miscarriage because wouldn't that mean

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Speaker 4: that she gave herself an abortion in their home bathroom.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I mean, technically a miscarriage, just caught a spontaneous abortion.

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Speaker 4: I also wanted to say on last week's episode, I

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Speaker 4: misspoke that Laura Michelle Owens was federally indicted. I meant

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Speaker 4: she was indicted by the state, more specifically Maricopa County,

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Speaker 4: where all the weird things happen in the world. Wait,

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Speaker 4: talked about last week? So what did you say wrong?

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Speaker 4: I mistakenly said she was federally indicted. She was indicted,

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Speaker 4: but by Maricopa County.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, big mistake.

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Speaker 1: So, speaking of the Titanic submersible, we did a high

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Speaker 1: day kind of going through that and figuring that out

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Speaker 1: for the part one, and then part two is going

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Speaker 1: to be all of the autopsies and like what did

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Speaker 1: their bodies look like, how did they die? What did

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Speaker 1: the medical examiner see when they performed the autopsies on

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Speaker 1: these people? So so that'll be coming out next week.

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Speaker 1: So check that out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, head over to the gross room dot com to

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Speaker 4: sign up.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about ozemp Dick was sometimes we

449
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Speaker 2: alternate who starts the story after the ad and I

450
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Speaker 2: was about to say that same exact sent. Okay, So

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Speaker 2: people are using ozempic and we're starting to see some

452
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Speaker 2: of the other side effects it's having besides you know,

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Speaker 2: weight loss and treatment for diabetes. But one of the

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Speaker 2: new side effects is that it's apparently making men's penises larger.

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Speaker 1: The most disturbing part of this story is that all

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Speaker 1: of these guys are saying, oh, it's grown one point

457
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Speaker 1: five inches, it's grown since last time I measured it, this, that,

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Speaker 1: and the other. And you're just like, this is like

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Speaker 1: specific to men, right, because like the women would never

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Speaker 1: pull out a tape measure or a roller and like

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Speaker 1: measure the size of their body part like that, would they? No,

462
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Speaker 1: of course, because it's so it's so weird. It's like weird,

463
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Speaker 1: and it's even more weird that guys are doing it

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Speaker 1: multiple times throughout their life to see if it's changing

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Speaker 1: in size. And I'm telling you, the ozempic has nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with your dick size. It's because of your

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Speaker 1: your pubic mound. Do you know your mom's pubis It

468
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Speaker 1: stands for a pubic mound. It's so gross. It just

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Speaker 1: reminds me of like a picture's mound or something that's

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Speaker 1: over top of your pubic bone. But that's it. That's fat,

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Speaker 1: it's and it's there to protect your pelvis, right. It's

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Speaker 1: like a big ball of fat there. So when you

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Speaker 1: get fat, it gets bigger and then your penis starts sinking.

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Speaker 1: Into it. There's a thing called hidden penis, Like it

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Speaker 1: could get all the way hidden inside of there if

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Speaker 1: with obesity, especially like really high BMIs and stuff like

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Speaker 1: dudes can't even see their penis.

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Speaker 4: Well, what do you say to the one that argued

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Speaker 4: that point to say, he measured himself when he was

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Speaker 4: skinnier and he has definitely gained an inch.

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Speaker 1: He's he's wrong. It's just not it's just not like

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Speaker 1: and like if you think about it, like if it

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Speaker 1: depends on like what kind of ruler you use, how

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Speaker 1: much you push it in, Like if you really go

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Speaker 1: not to get graphic, but if you go on like

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Speaker 1: a guy's mond's pubis and really push it down, you

487
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Speaker 1: could give them like another five inches, Like right, it's

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Speaker 1: just not five not five inches, but half an inch,

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Speaker 1: like do you know what I mean? Like you can

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Speaker 1: make it bigger or smaller depending on how you're looking

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Speaker 1: at it. Well, how it goes kind of deep down

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Speaker 1: into there.

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Speaker 4: You know, how much money do you think ozempic's going

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Speaker 4: to be getting in research now now that it is

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Speaker 4: potentially helping them have bigger dicks?

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Speaker 1: Oh god, the people are going not spuying this shit anyway, right,

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean for it'll be for the side

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Speaker 1: effects of it. Now, like men just want to go

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Speaker 1: on it because I don't think that there's any clinical

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Speaker 1: or scientific evidence that says that it's making their their

501
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Speaker 1: penis is bigger. One thing to take into consideration is,

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Speaker 1: especially with the obesity, with the drug working, it's improving

503
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Speaker 1: blood flow and that could have something to do with

504
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Speaker 1: it too, that they're just getting stronger erections, which would

505
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Speaker 1: make the penis seem bigger than it is, but it's not.

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Speaker 1: There's no evidence to suggest that anything in it is

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Speaker 1: actually growing their penis.

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Speaker 4: So ridiculous, it really is, Okay, So at TikToker is

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Speaker 4: claiming that after buying a bag of mixed nuts from Costco,

510
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Speaker 4: she found live worms crawling out of the nuts. So

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Speaker 4: last week it was the oat milk, this week it's

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Speaker 4: the Costco nuts. And there are like the video is disturbing.

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Speaker 4: You see live worms in it, Like it is gross,

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Speaker 4: it is, but I want to just say, like she's saying,

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Speaker 4: nowhere on it does it's take could possibly contain bugs?

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Speaker 4: That's insane, like why would it? And it's also something

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Speaker 4: that grows from the earth, so like there is the

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Speaker 4: potential no, there is.

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Speaker 1: And like I sent you a picture last week that

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Speaker 1: I had, So I had a head of broccoli that

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Speaker 1: but it came from like Amazon Fresh or whatever, and

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Speaker 1: it was in a plastic bag when I got it.

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Speaker 1: So all I did was I like rinsed it under

524
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Speaker 1: the sink real quick, and I caught it up and

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Speaker 1: I boiled it and made it for dinner. So Lucia

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Speaker 1: is like getting ready to bite into this florette and

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Speaker 1: she's like, what is this? And I look at it close,

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Speaker 1: and it was like a little tiny white worm. It's

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Speaker 1: probably like a caterpillar thing. It wasn't like a maggot.

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Speaker 4: That's what I thought it was when you sent me

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Speaker 4: the picture.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think it was like a

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Speaker 1: little caterpillar thing. So and and and like clearly wherever

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Speaker 1: it got picked, it got stuck in a bag and

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Speaker 1: it was just there, right, But like and obviously none

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Speaker 1: of us wanted to eat it, because I'm like I did,

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Speaker 1: like you know, when there there's never one bug, there's

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Speaker 1: never one bug, right, So my whole thing is like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, Like I didn't see them enough the

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Speaker 1: rints off, didn't get them off, and like there's more

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Speaker 1: in this food, and I don't want to eat this

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Speaker 1: food because I had mixed after I boiled it up,

543
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Speaker 1: I like mixed it in the sauce of the thing

544
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Speaker 1: I was making, and like nobody wanted to eat after

545
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Speaker 1: that because we're like there's worms every including me, but

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Speaker 1: that like I don't get upset about that because I'm

547
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Speaker 1: just like, this thing grows outside and there's bugs, Like

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Speaker 1: there's bugs all over my plants outside all the time.

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Speaker 1: There's unless you like spray the shit out of them

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Speaker 1: with pesticides, they're not going to go away. And you

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Speaker 1: don't really want that stuff on your food anyway. And

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00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: like the thing is is like if one of them

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Speaker 1: has eggs when it gets into the bag, then all

554
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Speaker 1: of a sudden you have a colony, right, And that's

555
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Speaker 1: probably what happened in this case, But it's just so

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Speaker 1: gross to see it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gross. I just think like things like this

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Speaker 4: can happen with food.

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Speaker 3: I don't know it.

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Speaker 4: It's disgusting and it bothers me, but it's not that far.

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Speaker 3: Fetched that it could.

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Speaker 1: She was posting like it not being expired. I don't

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Speaker 1: think the expiration has anything to do with it. It

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Speaker 1: probably was fresh. But like you have, you have an

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Speaker 1: ecosystem in there where like animals could thrive because they

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Speaker 1: have something to eat off of, so they could just

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Speaker 1: keep on reproducing and living there. I mean it, It

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00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: is nasty for sure, but we eat bugs all the time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we just don't know. Do you know?

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Speaker 1: One of my when I was in when I took

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Speaker 1: biology when I was in college, one of my teachers

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Speaker 1: he said that one of his friends had a job

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Speaker 1: where he would look at ketchup under the microscope all

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Speaker 1: day and count how many bug parts per million were

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Speaker 1: under the microscope. He was he was a scientist and

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Speaker 1: that's what he did for a living. That's discussing because

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Speaker 1: like you get you because there was a certain level

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Speaker 1: that was considered to be okay for human consumption. And

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Speaker 1: it's the same thing with like a fig Newton or

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00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: anything like that. If you look at that under the microscope,

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00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: there's lots of pieces of bugs under it. It's just

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Speaker 1: like it's impossible to pick that amount of tomatoes and

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Speaker 1: not get bugs mixed in with it.

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Speaker 4: I don't even think I added this story for this week,

585
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 4: But this hiker was missing for a couple of days,

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Speaker 4: and you survive the days he was missing on eating bugs.

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Speaker 1: Well, so see what you gotta do. Sometimes you have

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00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: to eat a person. Sometimes you have to eat a bug.

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Speaker 4: I mean some cultures eat bugs. Like it's not that

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00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 4: far fetched. It's not ideal if you don't like it.

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Speaker 4: But it's like, it's not like they spilled the chemical

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Speaker 4: on the nuts and they were selling them.

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Speaker 3: It's part of nature.

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Speaker 1: I saw this video of this some delicacy. I don't

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Speaker 1: know where it was exactly. It was somewhere like not

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Speaker 1: in America, I'll say that right. There was this like

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Speaker 1: log that was floating in the ocean, and the people

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Speaker 1: cut the log in half and inside are like these

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Speaker 1: worm things. And I don't know if they're a sea

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Speaker 1: creature or if they're a worm or what they are,

601
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Speaker 1: but they're like these white, gelatinous looking worms. And people

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Speaker 1: were taking them out of the holes and like eating

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Speaker 1: them alive.

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Speaker 4: That's reminding me of the animation of the Lion King

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Speaker 4: when they're like eating the bugs.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, popped in my mind.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, that's what that's what it was like. And

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Speaker 1: it was like some delicacy or something. And I'm like, eh, no,

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Speaker 1: thanks to quote mom, mom, if that's what you like.

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Speaker 4: All right, guys, we have the Atlanta Meet and Greek

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Speaker 4: both hosted by the wonderful Zone seven host Cheryl mac McCullum.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you'll get to meet her too, which I

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Speaker 1: would go just to meet her, not me, but Maria's

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Speaker 1: gonna be there, and I'm gonna have books for sale,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna have a really good time. So tickets

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