1
00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to

2
00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720
Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in

3
00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600
Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find

4
00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119
Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio

5
00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880
Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the

6
00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR.

7
00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,360
Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

8
00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,520
Speaker 1: A Go hour two. It's a Thursday Bills taking on

9
00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,239
Speaker 1: the Texans without c Jays shroud tonight. I'll go buffo

10
00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:40,640
Speaker 1: ho kay. That story on Jalen Hurts is very interesting

11
00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,440
Speaker 1: by Derek Gunner, reporter that you know, there's a little

12
00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,400
Speaker 1: and I was told the same thing this summer, not

13
00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,360
Speaker 1: the most popular guy in the locker room. You don't

14
00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,479
Speaker 1: have to be the most popular guy. Baker Mayfield has

15
00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,840
Speaker 1: always been popular. But remember Baker Mayfield in Cleveland, Oh

16
00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,480
Speaker 1: Vjy's dad taking shot to them. If the quarterback sometimes

17
00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,560
Speaker 1: creates some envy and jealousy financially and they get all

18
00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,960
Speaker 1: the you know, they get all the love. So you know,

19
00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a Russell Wilson Seattle thing. But

20
00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,520
Speaker 1: I was told this summer he wasn't the most popular guy.

21
00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,800
Speaker 1: He has his own beat, goes to his own sort

22
00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,120
Speaker 1: of sensibility. He's done a raw, raw hangout with all

23
00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,240
Speaker 1: the guys after the game. Person that's just not who

24
00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,440
Speaker 1: he is here is Jalen Hurts, responding to the story

25
00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,960
Speaker 1: and the thoughts by a reporter Derek Gunn on he

26
00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,560
Speaker 1: is kind of been difficult for the staff because he

27
00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,640
Speaker 1: kind of does his own thing during games.

28
00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,120
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised by anything. I mean, you know, this

29
00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,600
Speaker 3: is kind of the nature of the position, like I said,

30
00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,319
Speaker 3: But you know, I put my energy and I put

31
00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:40,880
Speaker 3: my focus on try and go out there and do

32
00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:46,120
Speaker 3: my best and trying to learn, trying to build, trying

33
00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,160
Speaker 3: to take any things that I can to improve. I

34
00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,880
Speaker 3: guess I get a lot of attention when things are

35
00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,680
Speaker 3: going well and when things are not going so well,

36
00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,280
Speaker 3: and so I never run away from holding myself accountable.

37
00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,760
Speaker 1: The criticism what Derek Gunn had said is, you know,

38
00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,640
Speaker 1: they practice stuff all week and then he kind of

39
00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,000
Speaker 1: does his own thing. And let's bring on Greg Cosel

40
00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:10,840
Speaker 1: forty six years NFL Films joining us now live. You know,

41
00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,400
Speaker 1: let's just start with this one because it's a story

42
00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,640
Speaker 1: out of Philadelphia that even kind of does his own thing,

43
00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,040
Speaker 1: which I remember for years and years you telling me,

44
00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,919
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't listen. You're like, you know, Russell Wilson,

45
00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,920
Speaker 1: it's like their pre produced ad libs, like he's I

46
00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,000
Speaker 1: don't know if it's. Is there a feel that Jalen

47
00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,359
Speaker 1: sometimes isn't running the offense that's designed for him.

48
00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,880
Speaker 4: You know, that's a hard question to answer, Kahn.

49
00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,240
Speaker 5: I will say this though, when you watch their tape,

50
00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,720
Speaker 5: and you know me, I solely go by the tape.

51
00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,560
Speaker 5: I'm not going to get involved in the Derek Gun

52
00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,240
Speaker 5: story or anything like that. But I will say this,

53
00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,239
Speaker 5: when you watch their offense and their past game in particular,

54
00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,600
Speaker 5: the one thing you definitely see is that it's rather

55
00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,440
Speaker 5: elementary and remedial in their concert, and that's just what

56
00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,440
Speaker 5: the tape shows. They don't do a lot. You know,

57
00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,079
Speaker 5: we talk about other quarterbacks and other coaches. You watch

58
00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,520
Speaker 5: a Ben Johnson offense, you watch the concepts that they run,

59
00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,520
Speaker 5: and other coaches, Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, you don't really

60
00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,239
Speaker 5: see that right now in Philadelphia. Now, you know me

61
00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,400
Speaker 5: well enough to know I don't rip coaches. This is

62
00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,840
Speaker 5: not a knock on Jalen Hurts I don't know what

63
00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,799
Speaker 5: goes on in their meetings. I don't know what goes

64
00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,880
Speaker 5: on in their locker room, but I can tell you

65
00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,960
Speaker 5: that the tape shows that their offensive pass concepts are

66
00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,440
Speaker 5: just they're rather basic and simplistic for the NFL.

67
00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, you mentioned San Francisco. Brock Purty comes back.

68
00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,920
Speaker 1: He and Kittle have always had a thing where they

69
00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,320
Speaker 1: just when you watch the Niners offense with Mac and

70
00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,760
Speaker 1: then with brock Purty, what it give me one thing

71
00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,520
Speaker 1: where brock Purty is absolutely inarguably superior to Mac Jones

72
00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,280
Speaker 1: and allows Kyle Shanahan to do that maybe he doesn't

73
00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:56,600
Speaker 1: do with Mac Jones.

74
00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,160
Speaker 5: I think one thing that always stands out to me

75
00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,840
Speaker 5: with Purdy is that he has a much more aggressive

76
00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,160
Speaker 5: mindset throwing the football. So he'll push the ball down

77
00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,600
Speaker 5: the field. Now, I'm sure some forty nine Ers fans

78
00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,440
Speaker 5: will say, gee, he'll throw some bad pigs. And it's

79
00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,080
Speaker 5: not as if he's an interception machine by any stretch,

80
00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,280
Speaker 5: but he is far more aggressive throwing the football, and

81
00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,120
Speaker 5: I think he sees the game a little more aggressively

82
00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,560
Speaker 5: like that. I think the Kidtle touchdown last week, not

83
00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,520
Speaker 5: the one we just saw, but the first one, the

84
00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,920
Speaker 5: thirty yarder, is a good.

85
00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:30,520
Speaker 2: Example of that.

86
00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,280
Speaker 5: This is it because he checked to that at the

87
00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,600
Speaker 5: line of scrimmage, he changed the formation, he knew what

88
00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,600
Speaker 5: he had and he threw a slot fade. Now I'm

89
00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,880
Speaker 5: not saying mac Jones isn't capable of that, but I

90
00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,080
Speaker 5: just think that Purdy, mindset wise, is far more aggressive

91
00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,440
Speaker 5: in his mentality of how he sees the game and.

92
00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,440
Speaker 4: The throws that he will make.

93
00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,800
Speaker 1: I made an argument this week when Sam Darnold came out,

94
00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,000
Speaker 1: I said he's a bit of a poor man's Andrew Luck.

95
00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:02,479
Speaker 1: He's reckless, big, strong, physical. And Andrew Luck had nine

96
00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,760
Speaker 1: games in his career with three or more picks. Sam

97
00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,840
Speaker 1: Donald has nine games in his career with three or

98
00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,960
Speaker 1: more picks. The worst game Look had was a four

99
00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,960
Speaker 1: pick game against Belichick. What was Donald's worst game, Well,

100
00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,159
Speaker 1: at Shula of the Rams in a couple Belichick games,

101
00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,440
Speaker 1: so they're similar. I think it's better. I think Luck's better,

102
00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,840
Speaker 1: But when I watch Sam, I'm like, listen, part of

103
00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:30,039
Speaker 1: what makes Sam interesting is that he really is aggressive

104
00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,080
Speaker 1: and he is not deterred after a pick. He doesn't care.

105
00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,440
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck did not Andrew Luck didn't care. So what

106
00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,880
Speaker 1: did you make of the performance against the Rams?

107
00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:40,320
Speaker 4: Yeah?

108
00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:41,800
Speaker 1: Your thoughts?

109
00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, obviously the four interceptions, so you have

110
00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,680
Speaker 5: to look at each one individually and you have to

111
00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,200
Speaker 5: evaluate that as individual plays.

112
00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,400
Speaker 4: And there were two that were really, really bad. I

113
00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:56,800
Speaker 4: tried it.

114
00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,400
Speaker 5: When I watch an interception, particularly one that's bad common

115
00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,120
Speaker 5: what I try to do is get in the head

116
00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,200
Speaker 5: of the quarterback and try to say, Okay, what is

117
00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,720
Speaker 5: he seeing, how is he seeing this? Why did he

118
00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,720
Speaker 5: make that throw? Because when you see it, you go,

119
00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,960
Speaker 5: oh my god, how did he throw that ball? But

120
00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,080
Speaker 5: obviously he didn't throw the ball intentionally to hit the

121
00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,840
Speaker 5: defensive back between the numbers. So I try to get

122
00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,880
Speaker 5: into the head of the quarterback based on the route concept,

123
00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,120
Speaker 5: the coverage, and I can understand I think why he

124
00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,839
Speaker 5: made some throws. There was one that was really bad

125
00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,280
Speaker 5: where I think it was the last one where he

126
00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,440
Speaker 5: sort of panicked and I think he had a throw

127
00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,080
Speaker 5: that he could have had. It's this one right here

128
00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,200
Speaker 5: that we're looking at now, But the others I could

129
00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,679
Speaker 5: give you reasons why I think he made the throws.

130
00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,400
Speaker 5: Obviously the result wasn't the same, But you made a

131
00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,440
Speaker 5: great point. And in fact, I said to one of

132
00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,039
Speaker 5: my guys when I was watching this tape, I said, boy,

133
00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,600
Speaker 5: when he after an interception, he's not shy. He just

134
00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,520
Speaker 5: comes back and he's going to throw the football. And

135
00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,600
Speaker 5: I think that's a positive trade in the quarterback.

136
00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,240
Speaker 1: All right, So Drake may I think New England thought

137
00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,840
Speaker 1: he was going to be good. I'm not sure if

138
00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,320
Speaker 1: they thought he was going to lead the league in

139
00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,160
Speaker 1: accuracy by the beginning of year two. Does Drake may

140
00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,640
Speaker 1: have a weakness to this point, anything that a top

141
00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,840
Speaker 1: defensive coach could could trick him or sucker him.

142
00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,720
Speaker 5: Into, well, that's you know, I don't want to say

143
00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,400
Speaker 5: he doesn't have a weakness. I'll tell you why, because

144
00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,040
Speaker 5: you know he's gonna have a bad game. I mean,

145
00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:22,960
Speaker 5: every quarterback is going to have a bad game or

146
00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,720
Speaker 5: a game that's that's less than good, and then we're

147
00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,320
Speaker 5: going to say, oh, look what they did to him.

148
00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,000
Speaker 5: So I'm not going to sit here and say, God,

149
00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,680
Speaker 5: this guy's, you know, on his way to the Hall

150
00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,080
Speaker 5: of Fame right now. But I think when you watch

151
00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,840
Speaker 5: his tape, you see a very calm, composed, calculated player.

152
00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,520
Speaker 4: Who knows where to go with the football.

153
00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,120
Speaker 5: He doesn't really make the kinds of throws where you say, God,

154
00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,760
Speaker 5: what's he doing? Why is he making that throw? I

155
00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,760
Speaker 5: think the thing that's really stood out to me has

156
00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,880
Speaker 5: been his ball location, Colin. His ball location has been really,

157
00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,360
Speaker 5: really precise, and I think that that's something that has

158
00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,680
Speaker 5: often overlooked. I mean, if you reduce court play to

159
00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,240
Speaker 5: its simplest terms, it's throwing to the right receiver at

160
00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,320
Speaker 5: the right time, with the right kind of throw. That's

161
00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,360
Speaker 5: what quarterback play ultimately is. And he's been doing that

162
00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:11,640
Speaker 5: at a really high level.

163
00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,280
Speaker 1: So let's go back to Denver's win over Kansas City,

164
00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,320
Speaker 1: because that was the game of the day, sure, along

165
00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,000
Speaker 1: along with Seattle ram So let's start with bow Nicks,

166
00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,640
Speaker 1: who had struggled on opening drives. This when he moved

167
00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,680
Speaker 1: the ball, so he was He's been great late. He

168
00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:31,200
Speaker 1: has struggled early. I felt watching him a little less frenetic.

169
00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,920
Speaker 1: I thought, I just felt like he was running the

170
00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,480
Speaker 1: offense a little better. And I know it spags. Yeah,

171
00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,120
Speaker 1: Chris Jones played well. What did the film say about

172
00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,000
Speaker 1: bo His pace, his tempo, is rhythm, his confidence.

173
00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,960
Speaker 4: You know, he may be one of those guys.

174
00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,760
Speaker 5: Colin that just has uneven plays where at times you

175
00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,319
Speaker 5: just look at the play and you go, God, he's

176
00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:58,560
Speaker 5: moving for no reason.

177
00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,800
Speaker 4: He's moving unnecessary. He does that, He did that in

178
00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:02,320
Speaker 4: this game.

179
00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,160
Speaker 5: But then he also has really good plays where he

180
00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,680
Speaker 5: looks very calm and very comfortable and sees it clearly.

181
00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,319
Speaker 5: So obviously, he's only in his second year, so I'm

182
00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:12,880
Speaker 5: not going to sit here and paint him with a

183
00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,520
Speaker 5: brush for his whole career and say he's always going

184
00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,240
Speaker 5: to be like that. But he's still working through that

185
00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,800
Speaker 5: to a certain extent where there are just plays where

186
00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,400
Speaker 5: it seems as if he almost invents and creates his

187
00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,079
Speaker 5: own pressure for no reason at all. But then he

188
00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,920
Speaker 5: looks very calm and composed, and it's just hard to

189
00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,840
Speaker 5: get a read on it now, obviously, because he looks

190
00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,800
Speaker 5: common composed in the fourth quarter. He's getting a reputation

191
00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,760
Speaker 5: as he's a clutch quarterback. But I'm sure Sean Payton

192
00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,920
Speaker 5: would like to see him play that way through fourth quarters.

193
00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,080
Speaker 1: Right, Let's go to Kansas City, could I argue? Yeah,

194
00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,559
Speaker 1: one thing, the one thing that Mahomes has never been

195
00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,640
Speaker 1: able to overcome is a really bad tackle left or right.

196
00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,400
Speaker 1: Is that's the time he's been blown out in Super Bowls.

197
00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,680
Speaker 1: Really kantasit These offensive issues come down to this. Their

198
00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:08,880
Speaker 1: protection Tooney left elite interior linemen right tackle is a

199
00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,600
Speaker 1: massive concern. It's probably what they're drafting with their first

200
00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,559
Speaker 1: pick next year. And it just comes down to this.

201
00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,400
Speaker 1: Mahomes has a very average offensive lineman in that group.

202
00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,560
Speaker 1: They miss Tooney and he doesn't trust the on line.

203
00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,679
Speaker 1: Is it that simple? You know?

204
00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:24,840
Speaker 2: Now?

205
00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,160
Speaker 5: I think there's a larger context here to the Chiefs.

206
00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,240
Speaker 5: Let's remember over the last two years, Colin, they've not

207
00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,920
Speaker 5: been a high scoring offense, okay, And I think a

208
00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,679
Speaker 5: lot of people lose sight of that. And this is

209
00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,280
Speaker 5: no knock on Mahomes as a player.

210
00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,520
Speaker 4: We know what he is. We know he's a great player.

211
00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,079
Speaker 4: That's not the point I'm making.

212
00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,080
Speaker 5: But I think one thing that has changed this year

213
00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,080
Speaker 5: which has impacted Mahomes and it impacts their whole team,

214
00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,880
Speaker 5: is the defense on third down in particular, has not

215
00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,120
Speaker 5: been as good. Keep in mind, over the last two

216
00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,439
Speaker 5: three years, their defense has been phenomenal.

217
00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,280
Speaker 4: They have not given up many points.

218
00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,640
Speaker 5: I think they've given up less than eighteen seventeen points

219
00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,199
Speaker 5: a game over the last two three years, they were

220
00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,640
Speaker 5: phenomenal on third down. This year it's not been quite

221
00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,160
Speaker 5: the same, and that puts a little more of a

222
00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,320
Speaker 5: burden on your offense. I mean, we're just seeing Mahomes

223
00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,360
Speaker 5: thrown interception here and again when you get into these

224
00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,679
Speaker 5: plays that are second reaction outside of structured plays, of

225
00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,160
Speaker 5: which Mahomes has been special in his career. Josh Allen

226
00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,040
Speaker 5: has been special in his career. But those are hard

227
00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,480
Speaker 5: plays to always count on every single week. And if

228
00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,959
Speaker 5: your defense is putting you in a position where it

229
00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,440
Speaker 5: seems like you have to make those plays every week,

230
00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,000
Speaker 5: they don't always happen.

231
00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I actually think people say it's just the Raiders,

232
00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,040
Speaker 1: but Philadelphia and Dallas play, and I think Dallas has

233
00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,680
Speaker 1: a puncher's chance. First of all, they're getting excellent receiver play,

234
00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,120
Speaker 1: excellent running back. The old line. The old line is

235
00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:01,160
Speaker 1: young and in past protection it's very uneven. Think they're

236
00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,640
Speaker 1: a little bit better blocking for the run, or maybe

237
00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,680
Speaker 1: that's Devonte Williams. But here's the thing. So I said

238
00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,360
Speaker 1: I defended the Micah Parsons trade because it's a good

239
00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,719
Speaker 1: NFL draft. They have two first round picks. It's a

240
00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,720
Speaker 1: good linebacker and edge draft, and I said, they're going

241
00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,760
Speaker 1: to get a cheaper Mica somewhere or something close, and

242
00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,640
Speaker 1: they're going to take both those picks will probably be defense.

243
00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,640
Speaker 1: So I said, I get it. They're paying CD, they're

244
00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,959
Speaker 1: paying Deck, they're paying a lot of money. But I

245
00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,040
Speaker 1: watched them against the Raiders and they were healthy and

246
00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,280
Speaker 1: overshown was back, and that second and that second round

247
00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,800
Speaker 1: pick was healthy. And then Quinn Williams looked like Robert

248
00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:40,000
Speaker 1: Salas Quinn Williams and I said, you know, I said,

249
00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,959
Speaker 1: now that they're healthy on defense, they're getting pressure on

250
00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,679
Speaker 1: the quarterback, They're getting there. They're athletic looking. So I

251
00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,079
Speaker 1: think I'm not saying this is a playoff team. But

252
00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,160
Speaker 1: I watched them and I didn't think it was just

253
00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,120
Speaker 1: because it was the Raiders. I look at them and

254
00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,720
Speaker 1: I think, you know what if they nailed two first

255
00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,160
Speaker 1: round picks Caleb Downs Ohio State, maybe an edge rusher.

256
00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,520
Speaker 1: I don't think they're miles away. What do you make

257
00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,360
Speaker 1: when you watch Dallas athletically draft picks are young players?

258
00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,880
Speaker 5: Well, to me, this game is about their offense versus

259
00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,160
Speaker 5: the Eagles defense, because the Eagles defense is really, really good.

260
00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,400
Speaker 5: And they've been phenomenal over the last five games. I

261
00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,520
Speaker 5: mean they've only allowed I think quarterbacks to complete about

262
00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:29,000
Speaker 5: fifty five percent. But this is a fascinating matchup because

263
00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,600
Speaker 5: you're going to get a receiver in George Pickens who

264
00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,800
Speaker 5: lines up is what we call the boundary X, the

265
00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,360
Speaker 5: single receiver to the short side of the field more

266
00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,440
Speaker 5: than any other receiver in football, and the boundary corner

267
00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,960
Speaker 5: for the Eagles is Quinnyon Mitchell. That'll be a fascinating matchup.

268
00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,640
Speaker 5: We know that Lamb is phenomenal as sort of a zee,

269
00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,959
Speaker 5: a movement receiver who can line up anywhere. They've got

270
00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,640
Speaker 5: a strong run game. The main thing can they protect

271
00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,280
Speaker 5: Dak Prescott. You're right about the old line. It's a

272
00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,400
Speaker 5: little uneven, but it has some talented players. I'd be

273
00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,959
Speaker 5: very concerned about the Jalen Phillips Terrence Feeld matchup on

274
00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,960
Speaker 5: the right side of their own line because Jalen Phillips,

275
00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,959
Speaker 5: I mean he ran by pena sua last week and

276
00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:10,160
Speaker 5: caused problems.

277
00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,000
Speaker 4: So to me, that side of the ball will dictate

278
00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,000
Speaker 4: the outcome of this game.

279
00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,280
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to talk Rams Seattle. I want to

280
00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,560
Speaker 1: talk specifically rams so the reason their defense is good.

281
00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,400
Speaker 1: Some of it is just they have not missed on

282
00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,560
Speaker 1: a defensive draft pick in two or three years. They

283
00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,240
Speaker 1: got a lot of speed and a lot of power

284
00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,720
Speaker 1: and a lot of good guys, and they've Emmanuel Forbes

285
00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,520
Speaker 1: coming over is now some length at corner. They have

286
00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,080
Speaker 1: very good personnel offensively. What's fascinating is I like their

287
00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:42,120
Speaker 1: personnel as well, but they do have these stretches and

288
00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,360
Speaker 1: you saw it in the second and third quarter where

289
00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:49,000
Speaker 1: it just stalls. And we know McVeigh is gifted. We know,

290
00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:54,560
Speaker 1: I mean we know. I mean PoCA Devonte tight end

291
00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,680
Speaker 1: Kyron Williams. Explain why and is it maybe just a

292
00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,680
Speaker 1: lack of Stafford mobility. He's one of the last hocket guys.

293
00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,360
Speaker 1: Why is their offense stall at times?

294
00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,600
Speaker 5: You know, that's a hard question. I mean this week

295
00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,280
Speaker 5: they played a very good defense. I mean, they've done

296
00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,480
Speaker 5: a lot of things. McVeigh is very creative. I mean,

297
00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,600
Speaker 5: we know that Higbee just went on ir so we'll see.

298
00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,760
Speaker 5: But they've been playing a ton with three tight ends,

299
00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,800
Speaker 5: thirteen personnel, one back in three tight ends last month,

300
00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,800
Speaker 5: last four games, well over forty percent of their offensive snaps. Now,

301
00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,480
Speaker 5: will that continue without Higbee, they still have three other

302
00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:31,080
Speaker 5: tight ends.

303
00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:32,080
Speaker 4: We'll find out.

304
00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,440
Speaker 5: And it's funny because in that thirteen personnel package, Nikua

305
00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,960
Speaker 5: never plays. It's usually Devonte Adams, almost always Devanta Adams

306
00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:40,800
Speaker 5: is the wide receiver.

307
00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,120
Speaker 4: But you know, offensively they're very good. You know, it's

308
00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,680
Speaker 4: hard to be great every.

309
00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,600
Speaker 5: Possession, and they just played a Seattle defense that's really,

310
00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,680
Speaker 5: really good. I think their run game has been a

311
00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,880
Speaker 5: little inconsistent, and that might be one reason.

312
00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:55,280
Speaker 4: Colin.

313
00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,080
Speaker 5: I think last week they ran the ball pretty well

314
00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,640
Speaker 5: against or Williams, had a couple of real good runs

315
00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,480
Speaker 5: against the Seattle defense. But last week they played a

316
00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,320
Speaker 5: very good defense. Seattle's got one of the better defenses

317
00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:07,880
Speaker 5: in the league.

318
00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. The other thing about the Rams is they don't

319
00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,360
Speaker 1: turn it over and they never get penalized. They are

320
00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,920
Speaker 1: the kleas team in the league for the second year. No, okay,

321
00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,840
Speaker 1: Josh Allen plays Houston tonight, No, CJ. Stroud. I think

322
00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,560
Speaker 1: Houston defensively is active.

323
00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:23,960
Speaker 4: And in phenomenal.

324
00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,400
Speaker 1: How does Josh Allen, you know, match up with that

325
00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:27,680
Speaker 1: Texans defense tonight?

326
00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,240
Speaker 5: This is going to be fascinating because Josh Allen is

327
00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,680
Speaker 5: I mean, he's the most gifted quarterback in the league

328
00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,400
Speaker 5: just in terms of physical traits, and I think you'd

329
00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:38,200
Speaker 5: probably agree with that.

330
00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:39,760
Speaker 4: And we know what he can do.

331
00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,120
Speaker 5: We know what he can do in terms of these

332
00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,760
Speaker 5: special plays, but they've struggled at times this year sort

333
00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:50,040
Speaker 5: of playing within structure, within the pass game, and you know,

334
00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,240
Speaker 5: you wonder can I get I'll tell you what. I

335
00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,440
Speaker 5: watched this tape in great detail, obviously, and I didn't

336
00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,800
Speaker 5: think Josh Allen had a great game despite six touchdowns.

337
00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,320
Speaker 5: I thought there were things he missed. Now, he does

338
00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,040
Speaker 5: this a lot, and then he often makes up for

339
00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,480
Speaker 5: it and compensates, And we're going to show that kind

340
00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,280
Speaker 5: of play momentarily and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.

341
00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,280
Speaker 4: But this is a really hard defense to play against.

342
00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,400
Speaker 5: And I don't think you can go into a game

343
00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,840
Speaker 5: and say, well, Josh is going to make four special plays.

344
00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:19,360
Speaker 4: And we're going to win.

345
00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,720
Speaker 5: I think this is the kind of game where you

346
00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,000
Speaker 5: hope he can do that, but there has to be

347
00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,520
Speaker 5: a sense of structure and stability to their offense where

348
00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,800
Speaker 5: they sustain and move the ball. But let me show

349
00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,000
Speaker 5: this play, Colin, because you'll see exactly what I'm talking

350
00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,040
Speaker 5: about and this is just one of those plays.

351
00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,760
Speaker 4: I mean, it's this is the Josh Allen experience. This

352
00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:38,480
Speaker 4: is what he does.

353
00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:39,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love this.

354
00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:44,080
Speaker 4: This was that forty three yard touchdown yep. And obviously it's.

355
00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,040
Speaker 5: Just unbelievable when you see it live, it makes you

356
00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:46,960
Speaker 5: jump out of your chair.

357
00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:48,720
Speaker 4: And it was third and three.

358
00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,560
Speaker 5: So Allen is in an empty set here, and what

359
00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,000
Speaker 5: you're going to see is he's going to look to

360
00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,960
Speaker 5: the left side of the formation to Davis and to Shavers.

361
00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,400
Speaker 5: That's where he's looking to make this work. And it's

362
00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,200
Speaker 5: going to be a two man route concept there. You're

363
00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,879
Speaker 5: going to see Shavers he's going to just run a

364
00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,480
Speaker 5: little quick outcut and you're going to see Davis run

365
00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:12,320
Speaker 5: a curl route.

366
00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,000
Speaker 4: That's what the play is. And by the way, the

367
00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,120
Speaker 4: play works perfectly.

368
00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,080
Speaker 5: So you're going to see as this develops, you're going

369
00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,800
Speaker 5: to see that Davis is going to be wide open.

370
00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,359
Speaker 4: And Josh starts to deliver the ball. If you look

371
00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,800
Speaker 4: at Josh, you can see start deliver the ball. It's

372
00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:29,639
Speaker 4: wide open.

373
00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,760
Speaker 5: This is the play. It's third and three. Let's take

374
00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,560
Speaker 5: the play and let's move the chains. You can see

375
00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:40,480
Speaker 5: there's no defender who can impact this play. The outside

376
00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,119
Speaker 5: player's gone with Shavers. Those two defenders are deep. The

377
00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,639
Speaker 5: inside linebacker he's nowhere near it. He's looking right at him.

378
00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,640
Speaker 5: You got to make this throw. And I'm always fascinated

379
00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,119
Speaker 5: by how do they deal with this in the meeting.

380
00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,320
Speaker 5: Do they say, hey, Josh, you got to make the throw?

381
00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:55,960
Speaker 4: What are you doing?

382
00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,680
Speaker 5: And now he runs, so he moves to his right

383
00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,840
Speaker 5: and there's nothing to it was right, there's nothing there.

384
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,720
Speaker 5: So now Colin, as you know, it becomes the Josh

385
00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,119
Speaker 5: Allen experience that we all love. And Shavers does a

386
00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,479
Speaker 5: great job of adjusting his route. He's just gonna now

387
00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,119
Speaker 5: run vertically, and Josh sees him and he does have

388
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,119
Speaker 5: great vision on the run, much like Mahomes, and he

389
00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,760
Speaker 5: makes a throw that you know, I'm not sure a

390
00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,720
Speaker 5: lot of people see this throw and make this throw,

391
00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,679
Speaker 5: but this is Josh Allen. So you know, I'm always

392
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,639
Speaker 5: fascinated by these plays, Colin, because what I wonder more

393
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,840
Speaker 5: than anything when I see plays like this is when

394
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 5: they have their meeting on Monday, what do they say

395
00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,400
Speaker 5: to him in the meeting. Do they say, oh, great play, Josh,

396
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,280
Speaker 5: or do they say, hey, Josh, we had the third

397
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,800
Speaker 5: down play mapped out perfectly, and you got to throw

398
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,800
Speaker 5: the ball. I mean, I don't really know the answer

399
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 5: to that, but he does this a lot. But the

400
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,639
Speaker 5: thing is, as you well know, you can't count on

401
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 5: that to be your offense.

402
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:57,320
Speaker 1: That's right, Greg Cosel on a Thursday, Bill's and Texans Tonight.

403
00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 1: Greg Isola's great stuff.

404
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,320
Speaker 4: Thanks Colin, appreciate it.

405
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 1: You bet. We'll have a weather forecast for about ten

406
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 1: teams coming up before the end of the hour. Also,

407
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:18,399
Speaker 1: Phil Simms stops by Josh Allen's insane. They just I mean,

408
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 1: you can tell when an athlete's great when you I mean,

409
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,919
Speaker 1: there's a lot of years that if the Bills were

410
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 1: on they were a corner game. You know that if

411
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 1: you put nine to ten, fifteen different quarterbacks in the

412
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,879
Speaker 1: league in a game Buffalo at Tampa, you know you

413
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't make it the game of the day. Josh Allen

414
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 1: has the ability to get me to a TV regardless

415
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,119
Speaker 1: of who they're playing. I'm just watching to see what

416
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 1: he does.

417
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 6: Remember how I like to talk about when Dan Marino

418
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 6: left the Dolphins. They were in the wilderness for decades

419
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 6: before they could find a quarterback.

420
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 7: Remember Jim Kelly with the Buffalo Bills.

421
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was amazing. How many Super bowls in there?

422
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 6: Three four super bowls in a row.

423
00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 7: They were awesome.

424
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 6: Then nothing until Josh Allen. You know, as a Jets fan,

425
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 6: I know this because we're still waiting Colin. Like, it's

426
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 6: really tough to find a quarterback.

427
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 8: In the NFL, oh especially one like Josh one more heard.

428
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 8: The Herd streams twenty four hours a day, seven days

429
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,399
Speaker 8: a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search Herd to listen

430
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 8: live or on demand whenever you like.

431
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 9: Hey, we're Cavino and Rich Fox Sports Radio every day

432
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 9: five to seven pm Eastern. But here's the thing, we

433
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 9: never have enough time to get to everything we want

434
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 9: to get to.

435
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 10: And that's why we have a brand new podcast called

436
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 10: over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun in

437
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 10: our two hour show. We never get to everything, honestly,

438
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 10: because this guy is over promising things.

439
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: We never have time for. Yeah, you blubber list lame

440
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 1: and me.

441
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 9: Well, you know what it's called over promise. You should

442
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 9: be good at it because you've been over promising women

443
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 9: for years.

444
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 10: Well, it's a Cavino and Rich after show, and we

445
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 10: want you to be a part of it. We're gonna

446
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 10: be talking sports, of course, but we're also gonna talk

447
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 10: life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing

448
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 10: about something or we didn't have enough time, it will

449
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 10: continue on our after show called over Promised.

450
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 9: Well, if you don't get enough Covino and Rich, make

451
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 9: sure you check out over Promise and also Uncensored by

452
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 9: the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a

453
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 9: little harder. It's gonna be the best after show podcast

454
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 9: of all time.

455
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 10: There you go, over Promising. Remember you could see on YouTube,

456
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 10: but definitely join us. Listen Over Promised with Cavino and

457
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 10: Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you

458
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 10: get your podcasts.

459
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 1: Phil Simms stopping by next hour. Jmack with a news no, no,

460
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 1: turn on the news.

461
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 2: This is the Herdline news.

462
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 7: I don't know Colin. I mentioned in Neurogum yesterday.

463
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 6: I feel like you popped some last night because you're

464
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 6: on fire today and I want you to listen to this.

465
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 6: Fernando Mendoza one of the hottest quarterback prospects in the

466
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 6: twenty twenty six strap. He was the topic of a

467
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 6: podcast earlier this week, Remember Joe Klatt gassed him up

468
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 6: on the show.

469
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 4: He liked him.

470
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 6: Well, take a listen to this, and I want you

471
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 6: to focus specifically on Urban Meyer as this group talks

472
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 6: about Fernando Mendoza.

473
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 11: When I caught the ball, I looked over there and

474
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 11: I saw his hips turn, his hips and eyes turned

475
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 11: to that point. All I knew I needed to just

476
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 11: beat that boundary croll defender and beat that boundary safety.

477
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 7: And once I saw that safety go over the.

478
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 11: Top the outside receiver defending the whole shot, I just

479
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 11: knew that I needed to put some arc and layer

480
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 11: on it over that hook defense after that, that kind

481
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 11: of like the hook curl defender in order to make

482
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 11: that completion because I knew the other guy, the joker,

483
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 11: had his hips to to the speed.

484
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: Right now, hold on, look at you, Look at you.

485
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 7: This is what I'm saying. This is as intense and

486
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 7: happening in years.

487
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

488
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: I was told by an NFL coach of some esteem

489
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: this week that Mendoza is an easy player to camp

490
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:54,479
Speaker 1: because Indiana runs some NFL stuff, and so he's an

491
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: easy player to look at film and say, Okay, he's this, this, this,

492
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: he can do that that that because Indiana runs enough

493
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: Sunday stuff, pro stuff signetti. So I think he is

494
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: the one quarterback in the draft that is a franchise changer.

495
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 1: I think he's really good. I think he's smart, he's big.

496
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: I mean just the description there to Urban. I think

497
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 1: he's actually right now being the idea that people think

498
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: that ty Simpson and him are in the same class. No,

499
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 1: they're not. This kid was great at Cal with col players.

500
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: He's great at Indiana with Indiana players. A lot different

501
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: having calin de borr and Bama talent. I think he's

502
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: separated Dante More. I think's gifted, but he's twenty and

503
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 1: needs another year in college. To my take, I think

504
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,959
Speaker 1: he's separated from everybody I've seen in college football.

505
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 6: So, about six weeks ago I mentioned this, the Wall

506
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,719
Speaker 6: Street Journal did an article on Fernando Mendoza. Just think

507
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 6: about that, The Wall Street Journal. Okay, this is some

508
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 6: sports publication. This guy is at his second getting a

509
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 6: second graduate school.

510
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 7: Degree right now. He's a genius.

511
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 6: Legitimately, his off season isn't you know, throwing to wide

512
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 6: receivers in Miami. Okay, he's doing business school in the

513
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 6: off season, and he's got internships. This is a literal

514
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 6: genius Colin, and I'm telling you he would be so

515
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,959
Speaker 6: good with my New York Jets. Bring some stability and calm. Now,

516
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 6: obviously there's gonna be questions. Does a nerd like this

517
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 6: fit into an NFL locker room?

518
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 7: Which earner?

519
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 6: You know, tough guys, I would hope, so you know us.

520
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 6: He's a smart kid, and I like smart I want

521
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 6: them on my team.

522
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will tell you this. Brady used to you know,

523
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: before Brady won super Bowls and was cool, Brady could

524
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: be a little nerdy. Peyton Manning was never cool. Andrew

525
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: Luck was not cool at all. I worry when a

526
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,479
Speaker 1: quarterback wants to be cool, you know, like that Johnny

527
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: Manziel being cool mattered a lot. Yeah, I mean I

528
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins won a lot of games being socially nerdy.

529
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm okay with it this kid, And I'm

530
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: serious on this. You know what I feel like, I

531
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: get Andrew Luck without the reckless. That's what I feel like.

532
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: I'm watching. I think he's this good. I think he

533
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: is Andrew Luck. And again, Andrew Luck had Stanford teammates

534
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: a lot of three star guys at Stanford, not like

535
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: Indiana's five star guys. I feel like I'm getting some

536
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck qualities. Big, smart, tough, can move well enough,

537
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: but a true pocket guy. But I don't get the

538
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: mistakes well people.

539
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 6: The real test will be if he could go to

540
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 6: a rotten franchise like the Jets or the Browns or

541
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 6: the Saints and elevate them.

542
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 7: That's the true test of.

543
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: Great Go watch him against Ohio State because that is

544
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: three top twelve defensive players, Matt Patricia. I don't think

545
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: he's gonna win, but when he went to Oregon against

546
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: Dan Lannings defense and he tore up in Outson, really impressive.

547
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm a fan.

548
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 6: Jets just need to lose a few more games to

549
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 6: secure mister Mendoza. All right, let's move on to oh yeah,

550
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,479
Speaker 6: we never talk about this guy, Aaron Rodgers. Reports are

551
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 6: now Colin did he makes I try to play? Yes,

552
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 6: try to play this weekend against the Bears with the

553
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 6: broken bone in his wrist. Now we know Rogers, spending

554
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 6: many years with the Packers, hates the Bears. He would

555
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 6: do the celebration, would joke about owning them. Listen, here

556
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 6: he is talking to reporters about the Bears.

557
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 4: It's a great robbery.

558
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 12: I mean, in the history of all sports, you talk

559
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 12: about the Lakers and Celtics and the Red Sox and

560
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 12: the Yankees, you got to talk about the Packers and

561
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 12: the Bears. And there's been some great memories there. When

562
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 12: I first got to Green Bay, the Bears had the

563
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 12: all time series lead. When I left, the Packers did

564
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 12: says Jay Love is taken over. It's even gotten better.

565
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 12: But I hope, I hope those fans can put that

566
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 12: put that behind. I'm sure they can't.

567
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: I think this is fascinating because I think I want

568
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: to see Aaron play because I think he gives them

569
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: the best chance to win, and I want a good game.

570
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: You know, it's just how interesting are the Bears games.

571
00:27:59,080 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: So it's amazing.

572
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: You get an.

573
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: Offensive coach, you get a young quarterback with all sorts

574
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: of horsepower. Bear games to me or must watch. I

575
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: think it's a real I will say this, I kind

576
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: of know what I get every week from Chicago. They're

577
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: gonna run the ball a lot, and they're gonna run

578
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: it pretty well, and they're gonna be very good and

579
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: late and the game will be close. I kind of

580
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: feel Pittsburgh week to week blown out by Seattle and

581
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,719
Speaker 1: then can come the next week. I mean, they can

582
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: play the Jets and struggle. They could get blown out

583
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: at home win on the road. I never know what

584
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm getting from Pittsburgh. They are a chameleon to the environment.

585
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: So I think it's a fascinating game.

586
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know the line is saying that Rogers

587
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 6: is gonna play. Remember it was stuck on three most

588
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 6: of the week with Mason Rudolph. Now we're seeing two

589
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 6: and a half. I mean, listen, this isn't difficult for

590
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 6: your Bears, right, Hey, I just looked at the weather report.

591
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 6: It's gonna be like fifty forties or fifty Sunday, no

592
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 6: rain or anything.

593
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 7: So you gotta blitz Rogers. Just you got to get

594
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 7: after him and say, hey, we're.

595
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 6: Not gonna let you chuck it up the DK Metcalf

596
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 6: and hope that he fumbles the ball in the pocket

597
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 6: because he's got to be wearing something on his hand

598
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 6: with the broken wrists.

599
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 7: So I bet the Bears earlier this week.

600
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 6: Not feeling great about it, but go Chicago. Final story

601
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 6: Colin Lamar Jackson. Bad news yesterday. Okay, this is yesterday.

602
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 6: He missed practice with an ankle injury.

603
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 7: Not great.

604
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 6: I just checked as we went live here a few

605
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 6: moments ago. Lamar Jackson jogged out of the you know,

606
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 6: the stadium. He is at practice today, so he missed yesterday.

607
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 6: We don't know if he's throwing today or just making

608
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 6: an appearance. But this is a little troubling facing my Jets.

609
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 6: Huge two touchdown favorites, down to thirteen and a half.

610
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 6: Tyrod Taylor starting for the Jets. The Ravens have no

611
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 6: room for air Collin. They must have Lamar because you

612
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 6: saw them without him earlier this year.

613
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: Not good. They're fine, They're gonna win, all right. Jmack

614
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: with the news.

615
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

616
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: herd Lie News.

617
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Phil Simms is going to be joining us

618
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: last hour. Speaking of weather, we got about ten teams here,

619
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: and there's so many things that now matter. You know,

620
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: for years and years we always said this about Belichick

621
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: and Brady and their dynasty. They were a different football

622
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: team around Thanksgiving on They were very beatable September early October.

623
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: Then things changed. Running games matter more. Your schedule matters

624
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: more if you're a warm weather dome team and you

625
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: have to go two or three weeks in a row

626
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: to cold weather. So there's a lot of things to consider.

627
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: Are you a good home team like Buffalo, How many

628
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: home games do you have left? Are you healthy? We'll

629
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: have our weather forecast for top ten top teams in

630
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: this league next in Chicago, It's the Hurd.

631
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

632
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: in noon Easter nn AM Pacific on Fox Sports Radio

633
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

634
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 6: Sunday, a Fox NFL doubleheader starts with Justin Jefferson and

635
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 6: the Vikings taking on Jordan Love and the Packers or

636
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 6: other regional action. Then in America's Game of the Week,

637
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 6: Jalen Hurts and the Eagles battle Dak Prescott and the

638
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 6: Cowboys or Falcon Saints. Check local listings for the games

639
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 6: in your area only on Fox.

640
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: Well it entering Week twelve gets windy, gets cold. The

641
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: weather does play a factor this point forward, So it

642
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: is time for me to pivot to my alter ego,

643
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: sky Banister, handsome weatherman, hair made of wood. Here we go,

644
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: Jay Mac, give me the game. I'll give you the

645
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: weather forecast for that team.

646
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 7: Okay, Sky Banister. What's the forecast for the Buffalo Bills

647
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 7: this season?

648
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: Looks like unseasonably warm weather ahead for the Bills. No

649
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: Buffalo temperatures. Why they only play one opponent that ranks

650
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: top half of the league in rushing is their achilles heel.

651
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: I don't see any Buffalo temperatures. They're heating up down

652
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: the stretch. Buffalo getting hot.

653
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 7: What's the forecast like for the Steelers this season?

654
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: Stormy, flash, floods or they have flash in the pan.

655
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: Why Aaron Rodgers is banged up and the next three

656
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: games are at the Bears, Bills, and Ravens. It is

657
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: a really bad time for Aaron Rodgers to not be

658
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: at one hundred percent All.

659
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 7: Right, storm? What's the forecast like for the Ravens this season?

660
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: Clear skies, mild weather ahead in Maryland? Why birds are

661
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: flying north to their playoff paradise three of their remaining

662
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: games bingals twice in the Jets next three games are

663
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: all at home. I see clear sailing icee winning streaks

664
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: despite Lamar missing practice yesterday.

665
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 6: What's the forecast like for the struggling Kansas City Chiefs?

666
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: This season, not stormy or clear. It's partly cloudy. So

667
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,239
Speaker 1: they are playing some home games coming up. They've been

668
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: good there, but the season really comes down to this

669
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: week on the road against the Colts off of bye.

670
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: So it could be really if those clouds could move

671
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: out of the way if they beat Indy. But I

672
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: think their season comes down to Sunday on the road

673
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: or I think they're at home. Excuse me, they're at home.

674
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones off of bye with Shane Stike and a

675
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: healthy Colts roster.

676
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 6: All right, what's the forecast like for the Denver Broncos

677
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 6: this season?

678
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: Clear skies. Maybe they got their playoff picnic basket already

679
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: made and set up. Listen, Week seventeen Chiefs is the

680
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: tough one. They've won the last two against Kansas City

681
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: twelve and two, the last couple of years at home.

682
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: This is a team that's got a lot a lot

683
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: of home games coming up. Bow Nicks, I thought was

684
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: less frenetic against Kansas City than he was in previous weeks.

685
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: I like what I see going forward. They'll retain that

686
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: number one seed.

687
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: All right.

688
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 7: What's the forecast like for the La Chargers this season?

689
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: Stormy, where there's lightning, there's always thunder. They have backups

690
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: everywhere in the old line, and they're gonna face some

691
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: of the best pass rushing teams over the next seven games, Chiefs, Texans, Eagles, Broncos.

692
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: What they struggle with is what they are facing over

693
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: the next seven games.

694
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 6: What's the forecast like for the Philadelphia Eagles this season?

695
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: Well, as the show says, it's always Sonny in Philadelphia.

696
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: Here's the advantage. Week thirteen, they face the Bears, but

697
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: under Siriani, they're eleven to zero against the NFC North.

698
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: Their toughest game is Week seventeen at the Bills. By

699
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: that time, Lane Johnson could be healthy, should be healthy,

700
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: So it kind of works in their favor. A couple

701
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: of tough games, but they match up well.

702
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 7: What's the forecast like for the Detroit Lions this season?

703
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: Well, Detroit season isn't black and white. It's a lot

704
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: of gray. It's partly cloudy. Here's what I worry about

705
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: with the Detroit Lions going forward at the Rams at

706
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: the Bears, but six of their seven remaining games are

707
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: in doors. You know who loves indoor football one Jared Golf.

708
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: So it is there's some clouds there at LA, at Chicago,

709
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: Green Bay. A lot of indoor games benefits this quarterback.

710
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 1: What's the forecast like for Micah and the Packers this season?

711
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: All right, not to sound cheesy, but it doesn't look

712
00:35:54,760 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: GOODA I don't know, I don't know. Green Bays three

713
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: of the last four games are on the road. For

714
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: their last five games are in cold weather environments, and

715
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: they can't run the football. I don't mind if you're

716
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: playing in cold Chicago. You gotta be about Philadelphia. You

717
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: gotta be able to run the ball efficiently when you're

718
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: playing in cold weather Green Bay. Can that means relying

719
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: on down the field throws.

720
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 6: It does not look good to all right, we saved

721
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 6: the worst for last what's the forecast like for the

722
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 6: Chicago Bears this season?

723
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: I will acknowledge a little stormy. Chicago faces hazardous wins ahead.

724
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: They could blow their playoff chances away three truck They

725
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: got three tough roadies at Philly, at Green Bay, at Niners.

726
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: No easy games. Even the should win games like Pittsburgh

727
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: are tough. They got to pay play the Packers twice, Eagles, Niners, Lions.

728
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: So never forget, oh, always keep it here for all

729
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: your weather updates with long term award winning meteorologists. Sky Banister,

730
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: I like that goodle.

731
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 7: Line leap gooda line is really strong, sky Banister.

732
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, I mean listen, I think the Steelers, the Chargers,

733
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: and the Bears got stormy weather ahead. The one thing

734
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: I will say, the Steelers and the Chargers are not

735
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: running the football well the Bears are. That is a

736
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: huge advantage in lowsy way. That's what worries me a

737
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,959
Speaker 1: little bit about Green Bay is that you know, weather

738
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 1: go sideways. You go look Baltimore, bad weather territory. Another

739
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: problem with Kansas City if they don't beat Indianapolis, they're

740
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: not running the football. So I mean Xavier Worthy, he's

741
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: going to become much less profound in December and January.

742
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 7: He's already catching like three passes of game tops.

743
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

744
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 7: Can I ask you about the Chiefs real quick? Con

745
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 7: so interesting you have partly cloud. I just want to

746
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 7: frame this.

747
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 6: So the Texans play tonight, the Chiefs are battling them

748
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 6: for a playoff spot.

749
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, like legitimately they're scoreboard watching. They're not used to that.

750
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 7: And then the Jags play Arizona like they got. The

751
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 7: Chiefs have to monitor that.

752
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 6: And I can't get over the fact that off of

753
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 6: bye week they laid an egg largely against the Broncos.

754
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: That is there. Do you think they were game.

755
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 6: Planning at all at the same time for the Colts

756
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 6: or was it like, hey, we got to beat the Broncos.

757
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: No, no, no.

758
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: I think there's a couple of things that are very true.

759
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: Chris Jones is not the player he was a year

760
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: and a half ago. He is not. And when he's not,

761
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: you know, Aaron Donald was getting double and triple team

762
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: to the very last game as a RAM, Chris Jones

763
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: is not as dominant. Well, when you take out, like

764
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: when you take out you know Bosa gets hurt for

765
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 1: the Niners, you know they wouldn't have a pass rush,

766
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: right Like if Khalil mack Tomorrow got hurt for the Chargers,

767
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: there goes a big chunk of their pass rush. There's

768
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: a reason these guys on the outside, the Miles Garretts,

769
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: the Max Crosby is, the Trey Hendrickson. There were so

770
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: much you can't duplicate them. It's much easier in the

771
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: draft to find a running back or a wide receiver

772
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 1: or an interior aligneman, quarterbacks, left tackles and edge rushers

773
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: or interior defensive lineman. I mean, Jalen Carter had a

774
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: lot of baggage and Philly's like, no problem. Why just

775
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: the body compositions. They're just not many guys that are

776
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: three forty with good feet. So Chris Jones for about

777
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: a five year period was unblockable and they could move

778
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: him all over. They could put him on the edge,

779
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: they could put him inside. You couldn't block him. You

780
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: had to double him. He's not the same player, yeah,

781
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: and now he'll have bursts. Same with Travis Kelce. Travis

782
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: Kelce has games, but it does feel like he plays

783
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: well when he has to. He's not consistent. So I

784
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: think part of this for Kansas City is they don't

785
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: run the ball well and they don't intimidate you and

786
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: alter your game plan up front. And it's the reality

787
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: of Chris Jones. Great player, very good player. Last year.

788
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: Next year is the last year with guaranteed money. You

789
00:39:58,840 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: probably gotta rip the band aid.

790
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 6: But remember lou Almaruno, the defensive coordinator for the Colts,

791
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 6: was with the Bengals for many years. He's the one

792
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 6: who schemed up that defense at Arrowhead to beat Mahomes

793
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 6: in the playoff.

794
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 7: Remember the game.

795
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 6: I think it went overtime, the Mahomes through the interception,

796
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 6: and the Bengals are right there with them in another

797
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 6: playoff game. So there's a world where he plays a

798
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 6: lot of zone mixes up the blitzes and Mahomes has

799
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 6: not been good under pressure Colin at all this season,

800
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 6: especially the high leverage games.

801
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 7: And then in factor in the Chief's inability to stop

802
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 7: the run.

803
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 6: You know, the Bills had a one hundred yard rusher

804
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 6: against him, Cook went nuts. If they can't stop the

805
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 6: run Jonathan Taylor in that offensive line, I think Kansas

806
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 6: City's in trouble here.

807
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 2: I'm not going all in.

808
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's in headlines yet, but this

809
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 6: is like a one of the bigger games of the season.

810
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a You know, the NFL has the ability

811
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 1: to create great games out of games that don't appear

812
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: to be interesting matchups. Steelers Bears could be very interesting.

813
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: New England at Cincinnati. Joe Burrow was at practice today.

814
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: That get very interesting. Jacksonville, which nobody trusts on the road,

815
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: goes to Arizona. You know, if if Denver. If Kansas

816
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: City can beat the Colts and Jacksonville win, it's a

817
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: big And you know Houston's gonna lose tonight and the

818
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: Colts are underdogs to Kansas City. That is a huge

819
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: game in the history of the Jaguars franchise to go

820
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: to Arizona and win. But they're a dysfunctional, weird franchise

821
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: that you don't trust in big spots. I also, and

822
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: you know they're keep your eye on Dallas hosting Philadelphia. Yeah,

823
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: that is a really interesting game for me.

824
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, Collins.

825
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 6: So the four pm slate on paper doesn't look good

826
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 6: Jacksonville Arizona, but then you've got schadors starting for the Browns,

827
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 6: which is fascinating. And I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest.

828
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 6: I got some friends in Atlanta and they're worried about

829
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 6: the Saints Falcons game. I know nobody cares, but it's

830
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 6: not just the game. Raheem Morris could be in some

831
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 6: trouble if this season totally flops. Remember they didn't want

832
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 6: to trade Kirk Cousins. They could have tried to ship

833
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 6: them to somebody.

834
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 2: Collin.

835
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 7: It's not looking good for the Falcons at all. In

836
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 7: that coaching staff.

837
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: Phil sims around the corner. Two down, one to go.

838
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: It's the hurt