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Speaker 1: and uh, and that's not what you think I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: these NBA semi finals because a from the next time

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Speaker 1: a human being says to me, well, the NBA is rigged,

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Speaker 1: the NBA is just they Well, the reps are gonna

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Speaker 1: put who they want. They're gonna put their guy, They're

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Speaker 1: gonna put their team in the finals. I'm gonna look

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Speaker 1: at them. I am gonna say twenty twenty three is

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Speaker 1: and that's the end of that conversation. The Lakers and

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Speaker 1: Celtics Finals, uh so far, neither one of them have

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Speaker 1: have won a game, So so much for that.

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Speaker 2: I hear a lot of glee in your voice right now. No no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: no no no no. Okay, you could try, you could

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Speaker 2: try to fool Penny, and you can try to fool

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Speaker 1: But I hear a lot of glee.

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Speaker 2: In your voice. It's okay, Hey, hey, live in it,

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Speaker 2: Hey live in Hey.

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Speaker 1: Look resonate Hey from no not now. That's a T

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Speaker 3: But I job. I have a job to do. I

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Speaker 1: If I look, if I'm gonna live and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: work in the Bay Area, and I am going to

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Speaker 1: be from here and born here and bred here, I

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Speaker 1: have a job. And it is not to talk on

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Speaker 1: the radio. It is it is to it is to

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Speaker 2: Now you're supposed what you're supposed that is true. What

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Speaker 2: you're supposed to do, uh huh is want the team

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Speaker 2: representing your state to continue on U.

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Speaker 1: Now see, I know you're someone that's got roots in

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Speaker 1: all of whom sat there and said things like Lakers

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Speaker 3: Some angels in there, and go Kings, go, and all.

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Speaker 1: Of the things that I mean, they would have said

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Speaker 2: It sounds like hate hate hate hate.

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Speaker 1: Well, Well look, look the bottom line is this. I'm

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Speaker 1: the most underdiscussed, underdeveloped Cinderella story I've ever seen in

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Speaker 1: in tournament. As nobody's ever gonna win an NBA championship

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Speaker 1: It's ludicrous. It's fun, creates a little urgency, but it's

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Speaker 1: Feet and I laugh that NBA conspiracy theorists will still

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Speaker 1: and a total of zero people had that on their

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can't argue with a conspiracy theory theorist

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just too that's a dead end. So anybody,

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Speaker 2: That would have just put it over. That would just

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Speaker 2: put it over the top. It would have gave Disney,

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Speaker 2: It would have made what they paid for the NBA,

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Speaker 2: ESPN and Disney paid for the NBA worth it.

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Speaker 2: Because it hasn't been that way, and that's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: I'm barring something miraculous which has never happened before. So

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Speaker 2: you know, the Celtics still have an opportunity tonight in

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Speaker 1: Well remember not just down to oh, down to oh

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Speaker 1: with both of your losses. Right, that's difficult. That happened,

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Speaker 1: It's happened before. But my goodness, you can't. You can't

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Speaker 1: It's Denver. They've never really done that before. I don't

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Speaker 1: But they've been there the whole time being the best team.

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Speaker 1: We just we just failed to believe it until today.

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Speaker 1: Well they're they're the most complete team. They don't have

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Speaker 1: the bench and do enough. They only play about seven

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Speaker 1: to eight deep this whole playoff run, but their length

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Speaker 1: is a problem. And I was just having this conversation

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Speaker 2: Over Pete Laker fan, Oh, you gotta believe. Hey, But

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Speaker 2: I'm also an analyst and I'm also just my job

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Speaker 2: And this is my reality hat. And when you look

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Speaker 2: them for probably being the only team that's gotten to

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Speaker 2: getting it together right, for hovering up below five hundred

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Speaker 2: themselves a better team. Now when you look at their

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Speaker 2: deficiencies now, it's usually the shoes on the other foot

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Speaker 2: when teams are going up against the Lakers, and that size.

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Speaker 2: In every single championship the Lakers have had, they've had

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Speaker 2: the size advantage on their opponent. Go back to George Miken,

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Speaker 2: go back to Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem abduor Jabbar Shaquille O'Neill. Right,

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Speaker 2: So when you're looking now, Andrew byam right, like when

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Speaker 2: you're looking now, they don't have that size advantage. It

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Speaker 2: didn't matter at early parts of the Western Conference because

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Speaker 2: nobody had size until the number one seed, which has

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Speaker 2: what size they currently start. They currently start six '

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Speaker 2: Two years ago when we played Denver in the bubble wet,

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Speaker 2: Javeal McGee, these are all champions. Javeal McGee was tremendous,

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Speaker 2: one point when Anthony David was he was averaging eighteen

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Speaker 2: can't match up with size. You got Anthony Davis. He

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Speaker 2: Dennis shrewd undersize. All of these things that were a

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Speaker 2: you have the best big in the game that you're

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Speaker 2: playing against. MVP went to Joel and b But I'll

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Speaker 2: take your joker any day to start my team as

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Speaker 2: a big yep, right like that is I mean his

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Speaker 2: really is and what he brings to the table because

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Speaker 2: it's I mean, we've never seen anything like it.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is one of those things. And this isn't

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Speaker 1: meant to take anything away from Joe LMBD season because

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Speaker 1: I don't really like it. When we start changing our

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Speaker 1: here's just the facts of life and the way the

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Speaker 1: wins it, go wing away.

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Speaker 1: and yeah, the Heat and Celtics will be getting started

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Speaker 8: I believe he actually made a fourth quarter three pointer,

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Speaker 1: the eight seed, who could that lead to changes and

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Speaker 1: maybe what might those changes be. I got some questions there,

432
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: but we're not done with your Lebron take. That was

433
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: pretty interesting. That was pretty interesting. So I guess what

434
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Speaker 1: I would say to you, Ephraim is so what are

435
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: you saying? So if that's your feeling about Lebron, yes,

436
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: so what are you saying with regard to life going forward?

437
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is.

438
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Speaker 2: If this is going to be an opportunity because I

439
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 2: don't know remember how this thing started, I don't know

440
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: how many more opportunities Lebron James will be eight games

441
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: away from another championship when we start having goat conversations, right,

442
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: you got to at least get to six. Nobody cares

443
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: how many finals you went to and lost. So when

444
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: we start having these conversations and look, I'm a Laker guy,

445
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not in here, you know, disparaging my team.

446
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: I had high hopes. I was pry and proud of

447
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: what they've been able to accomplish this year, given what

448
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: they've had to overcome.

449
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you shouldn't.

450
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 2: That is no small feat at all now, But I

451
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: see what I see, and what I see is a

452
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: liack of attention to detail and breakdowns from the person

453
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 2: who's supposed to be the best on the floor. That

454
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 2: to me, is a problem. You can go back and

455
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 2: watch and watch Lebron James not guard anyone on multiple

456
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: possessions throughout the playoffs, and he'll turn and he'll put

457
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: his hands up in the air when his guy is

458
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: wide open under the basket, or he will lose his person.

459
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 2: Because I get it, he's conserving energy, because he's thirty

460
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 2: eight years old, he's played more minutes than any other

461
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: person on the planet Earth. We get it, but we

462
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: don't care because you're in the Western Conference finals.

463
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 3: I get it, and so I get it.

464
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: With that the expectation has risen for this year. Right

465
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: and April or in March, when you were four games

466
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: below five hundred, the expectation was, we just got to

467
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: make the play in, and once you made the play in,

468
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 2: it was we just got to win this one game,

469
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: and once you won that one game, it's, oh, we

470
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: gotta win a championship. That's how fast it goes from

471
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 2: making the playoffs to winning a championship. For Los Angeles Lakers.

472
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: It's not a best in show. Hey, you showed up.

473
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:35,239
Speaker 2: It's not miscongeniality. It's if you worked as hard as

474
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: you've worked to get here, you have to cash in

475
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: and it's not happening. So you gotta look at the

476
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: lad you gotta look at the leadership.

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Speaker 1: I listen. I don't think that there's a darn thing

478
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: you said through the whole last fifteen minutes that I'm

479
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: gonna raise my hand and say that's wrong. But I

480
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: do have questions. Of course. For instance, Lebron is not

481
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: supposed to get credit for making the finals. He's not

482
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: supposed to get credit for making the Western Conference finals.

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Speaker 1: I'm not so sure that that's true. I understand, especially

484
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: how fans of the particular franchise you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: I'll never forget.

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Speaker 1: When Kevin Durant's Oklahoma City Thunder got beat by the

487
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Speaker 1: Miami Heat in the NBA Finals, Kevin was asked, this

488
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: is very reminiscent of what happened with Iannis. A few

489
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: weeks ago. He was asked, is this a wasted year?

490
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Speaker 1: He didn't say, is it a failure? The question was

491
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: potentially even more offensive, was this a wasted year? And

492
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: Durant went through his own answer that was very much

493
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: replayed and went viral about how there were all of

494
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Speaker 1: these things that happened during that year that were important,

495
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: and that we're building blocks and would make the team better,

496
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: and we're also achievements and all of that. And the

497
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: Laker fan base, because at the time I was working

498
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,719
Speaker 1: for the flagship of the Los Angeles Lakers, the Laker

499
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: fan base, in my opinion, had been copefied, which is

500
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: not a bad thing, but y'all been cobefied, which means

501
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: how would Kobe have answered that question? By the way,

502
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Speaker 1: I don't think he would have answered it the same

503
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Speaker 1: way you necessarily think now during if he were wearing

504
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: a jersey and it were postgame, he'd have been like,

505
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: is a failure, It's a waste. I hate everything. I

506
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: don't want to talk to anybody. See you next year.

507
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: But the Kobe that showed up in retirement and is

508
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: working with Showtime and Gothrum Chopa, he he became much

509
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: more philosophical about all of these things. In fact, there's

510
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: a viral quote where he said failure doesn't exist unless

511
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: you choose to look at it that way. So I

512
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: think there we got to get a little bit less

513
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: black and white about you win it all or you stink.

514
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: Because for some reason, all of the seasons that Michael

515
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: played that weren't the six, that one ended with a ring.

516
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: We've decided they don't exist, and they do. And he

517
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: is thirty eight, and I personally have room for him

518
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: to be thirty eight. You want to have some fun.

519
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: You want to know what numbers Michael Jordan put up

520
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: when he was thirty eight.

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00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 3: Would you like to look at those numbers and results?

522
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: Oh?

523
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: I know, you'd laugh, you'd laugh. You want to know

524
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Speaker 1: what he shot from three point range when he was

525
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: thirty eight? Yeah?

526
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: I know, I know exactly. You know it off the

527
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: top of you it What did he shoot, but you

528
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: I think it was twenty six percent.

529
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Speaker 3: Eighteen point nine percent. Eighteen point nine.

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Speaker 2: So this is when he retired and came back as

531
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Speaker 2: a wizard.

532
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: Correct, when he came back as a wizard?

533
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Speaker 1: Yes?

534
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: So was there an expectation that Michael Jordan, who was

535
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: retired for three years, to come back as a wizard?

536
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: Was there an expectation to win a championship?

537
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 3: Was there were the Lakers this year? I certainly didn't

538
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: have one.

539
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: At the beginning of the season one, yes, really, yes.

540
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: Oh well, we didn't share the same expectations. Well I

541
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: didn't think that all.

542
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: Well, because you're not You're not a laker. Of course

543
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: you're expectation. But what do your expectation for the Golden

544
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: State Wars was to repeat?

545
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: Correct? No, really, I thought they do well? Yes, you

546
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: didn't think they're going to be I got, I got

547
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: the receipts.

548
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely said it is very unlikely.

549
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: Do you know how it is to repeat? Yeah? I

550
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: mean they brought an entire team back. Not true, Not.

551
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: True at all.

552
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: They were a very very deep, different defensive team and

553
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: someone punched someone before the year even started. No, I'm

554
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: talking punch. I I didn't know you can't. I'm talking punch,

555
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: you can't do the who cares? Who cares what anybody thinks?

556
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: In July? All right, well we're not done with this.

557
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: More and more coming out marketing from five Sports Radio. Okay,

558
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: these are the tyrag dot com studios. That's it from

559
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Speaker 1: Salama Mark Wellard, can we peel that onion for a second?

560
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: You thought you expected that's a big word. Now you

561
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: expected Los Angeles Lakers win a title this year before

562
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 1: the year even started.

563
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 2: Really, those are the expectations coming into the year when

564
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: you have two of the top ten players in the league.

565
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: That's not even uh well no, yes.

566
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean coming off of last year. I just

567
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: think that's interesting. Yea all I'm gonna say.

568
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 2: Hey, look look here man and and the onus was

569
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 2: on Rob Polinka, and the spotlight was on Rob Polinka

570
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 2: to be able to put a team together. We knew

571
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 2: their trades that needed to be made. We went into

572
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: the season knowing that everybody knew that because they witnessed

573
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: last year not working correct. We knew correct that something

574
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: had to give. And when we started the way we started,

575
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: that's why it was like, all right, so everybody got

576
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: to get fired. But to his credit and to Jeanie

577
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 2: Buss's credit, they pulled off something that no one thought

578
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: they could and it worked. And as it.

579
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: Began, what does work mean? Conference finals? Right? So to

580
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: my thinking, to my thinking, and I don't have the

581
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: emotion involved here, to my thinking, this was an incredible success.

582
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: I can't believe they're still playing basketball. They were a

583
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: dumpster fire for the first half of the season. Whoever

584
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: the names are on the back of the jersey, I

585
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: don't care.

586
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 3: I watched Russell Westbrook and what he did.

587
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: I watched the vibe of the whole team, and it

588
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: was gonna go anywhere. And you know what continuity means

589
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: in the NBA, And it's one of the things that

590
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: surprised me so much about the Laker Warriors series and

591
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: the Laker Grizzly series. Now, the Grizzlies they got all

592
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 1: sideways and messed up for one hundred different reasons this year,

593
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: so I totally understand that. But the Warriors size I

594
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: knew would be a problem. I thought it would be

595
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: overwhelmed by the fact that I don't know, their core

596
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: has been together through like three presidential campaigns, and the Lakers, yeah,

597
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: you had two good players and a bunch of people

598
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: who showed up three weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: You don't win in the NBA doing that.

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00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: Look at Phoenix, look at Dallas. It was my main

601
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: point to you when they made those trades. Great big names,

602
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: cool beans. You gotta have continuity. I'm amazed at what

603
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: the Lakers achieved this year, and I know the fan

604
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: base has a hard time with a pat on the

605
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: back when it doesn't get a ring to go with it.

606
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 3: But I'm sorry, man, I think they overachieved.

607
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, overachievement and expectation don't always go, you know,

608
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: hand in hand. Over achievement doesn't mean if they want

609
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 2: a championship, they can also have overachieved correct well.

610
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: Like markedly, right right to an incredible level.

611
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: So what happened is the Lakers were a dumpster fire

612
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 2: to start the year. Correct. That was then fixed. So

613
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: once a problem is fixed, your expectations change.

614
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: Correct.

615
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: Yes, so once you addressed the problem. But what I'm

616
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: saying is, once you addressed the problem, the problem was

617
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: Westbrook didn't fit ball, dominant guy, doesn't fit what we're

618
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 2: doing right now, have no shooters, no wing defense. They

619
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: answered all three of those got better and all three

620
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 2: of those. So now expectations are, oh, wow, okay, now

621
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: we do have shooting. Now we do have point guards.

622
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: Now we do have outside score, Now we do have

623
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: long wing defenders. So now your expectations shift. You go

624
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: into a play in, you win that game, you go

625
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: into a first round series, people really start to really

626
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 2: understand the dynamic of the team and how good it

627
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: had become in that first round series against Memphis, and

628
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, okay, all right. Then going against the

629
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: defending champs with all of their movement and shooting and

630
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: everything that they bring to the table, their championship pedigree,

631
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: all of those things, very difficult series for a team

632
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: that been middling around the bottom of the pack. You know,

633
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: they were thirteen seed, you know, three and a half

634
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: months ago. So once you do that and you you're

635
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: winning these games in the way that you are, the

636
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: expectations are, oh, this team can win a championship. So

637
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 2: now when you're in a series and you're playing against

638
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: the number one seed in the West, a dynamic team,

639
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: we don't want to hear about your age and why

640
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: you're tired, I.

641
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: Don't think, but yeah, no, no, maybe nobody wants to

642
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: hear that. But but I I have to. I have

643
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: to stand up for the basketball team here and say,

644
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: if that's how you felt, that might be a little

645
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 1: bit on you because nobody wins, nobody wins the title

646
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: at the trade deadline.

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Speaker 3: Myan man, that's my opinion. How many times in the

648
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Speaker 3: history of or in the history of the league you.

649
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Speaker 1: Could count on your two fingers and you may not

650
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: need both of them. How many times a idle got

651
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Speaker 1: one at the trade deadline?

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00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: That doesn't it doesn't happen again. I know, but we're

653
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 2: eight games We were eight games away from that.

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Speaker 1: I know, but that's eight games away. Nobody ever remembers

655
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Speaker 1: who's eight games away. I got another question about your

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Speaker 1: Laker roster coming up next. We'll get to that.

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Speaker 1: I need to throw you a curveball. Throw hit these,

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Speaker 1: hey man, I got a dirty curve Sometimes. I'm just

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00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: gonna let you know. But off the top of the show,

670
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: was accused unfairly of Laker hate. Come on, bruh, come on, Well,

671
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: there's the only reason. It's not that it's untrue. I

672
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: just want to try. I just want to try to

673
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: have this conversation and make sure you know I'm not

674
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: leading the witness here. I don't mean anything by this question.

675
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: This is genuine now, truly, do not read anything into this.

676
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 1: There's no potshots here. I want to know. I want

677
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,959
Speaker 1: to know something about the Laker fan experience this year.

678
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: And I truly want to know this because the only championship.

679
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 3: Experiences I have had as a.

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00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: Fan over the last fifteen years three by my baseball team,

681
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: by my basketball team, and those seven championships have all

682
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: been run largely by the same names. The Steph Curry's,

683
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: Klay Thompson's, Draymond Green's, Madison Bumgarner's and Buster Posey's and

684
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: Matt Kains and Tim Linscom's and the like Brandon Belt,

685
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: Brandan Crawfords. You get what I'm saying. So I know

686
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: that this team didn't win, but one thing that stood out.

687
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: And I know the season not over yet, but if

688
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: we're talking about the Nuggets as if they're moving on,

689
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: I know they didn't win, but one thing that stood

690
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: out to me when I watched them. I've always been

691
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: curious about the journey since Lebron arrived. When I know

692
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: you'd admit you weren't one of them, but plenty of

693
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: Laker fans did not want to welcome him to the fraternity.

694
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 1: They didn't want to give him the pin because he's quote,

695
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: not one of us. This is not our guy. We

696
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: have our guy, our guys, Kobe Bryant. And then you

697
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: can go back through the years of Laker fandom and

698
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: the favorites, the favorite players with every organization are almost

699
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: always drafted there. That's the way fandom works. People who

700
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: are drafted there are by definition more special than the

701
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: people who aren't. Ask Kevin Durant, why do you leave? Man?

702
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: I can't penetrate this Steph love no matter what I do.

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00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: Right, So, when you have a team like this, year's

704
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: Lakers that largely felt like it had almost like next

705
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: to nothing homegrown. Sure, little you want to call D'Angelo

706
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: Russell homegrown or this guy over here had seven points? Fine,

707
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: but you get what I'm saying. What as has that

708
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: been like? And do you think that matters? And did

709
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: you have a harder time liking this team the way

710
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: you've liked teams in the past.

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00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 2: No, I mean I'm a Magic guy. I'm a Kobe guy.

712
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: You know Kobe for my influential years. I'm a Shack guy.

713
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 2: Even though Shack came from Orlando. That was my nickname

714
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: when I played basketball, uh in college, Shack of the Whack.

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00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: I didn't.

716
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: I did not know that that's a real thing.

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00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. That's pretty good.

718
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Speaker 2: But when I wasn't a Lebron, I respected Lebron just

719
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: like I respected Jordan. I'm not a Jordan fan. I

720
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 2: respected Lebron and what he's able to do. But I'm

721
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: a Kobe guy. But when he came to the Lakers,

722
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 2: I'm a Laker guy. So when he came to the Lakers,

723
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 2: expectations of going and winning the championship were back because

724
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 2: you got to remember what we were prior to Lebron coming,

725
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 2: we were a afterthought. Oh I remember, and so yeah,

726
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: when Lebron got here, the expectation changed. Everything changed.

727
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: And so.

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00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 2: I'm I'm Lakers through and through. Okay, you know I

729
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 2: wasn't a run our test fan when he came. Let's

730
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: make it happen, Palgasol same way.

731
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Speaker 8: And.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you can come and you can help

733
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: the team, you got like, I would never be like, oh, like,

734
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: I'm not a I respect KT as a player, but

735
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 2: if you know, I'm like, I'm not checking for KD

736
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: unless he came to the Lakers, right.

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00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: No, I get that, I'm not I'm not asking if

738
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: there's an openness to acquisitions. Who who would who would

739
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: not want that? Everybody needs acquisitions. I guess I'm The

740
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: word that keeps popping to my mind that I'm curious

741
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: about is attachment and the bubble chip, which we can

742
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: have our playful conversation again someday if you want about

743
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: whether it counts the same or not, right, but it does.

744
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: But the bottom line is, I know that a Laker

745
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: fan is not going to experience that championship the same way,

746
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 1: not because whether it counts the same, whether it doesn't.

747
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: It's because we're in the middle of a global pandemic.

748
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: You can't celebrate it the same way. There's no parade.

749
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: It is just a different experience. Everything was in the

750
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 1: middle of a pandemic, and all of it was less

751
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: fun than when you're not in a pandemic. So so

752
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: that I get. But I just what if I asked

753
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 1: it this way? What if they had won it all

754
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: this year? Are you going to love that as much

755
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: as a Kobe, as much as a Kobe or a

756
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: magic ring? Yes, see, I wonder. I don't know how

757
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,479
Speaker 1: you wonder winning a championship? Well how do you? Because

758
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: they're not all the same. They're not all the same.

759
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: They're flatly not all the same. And I can speak

760
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: to it the sad. Ask any Warrior fan put up

761
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: those four rings and tell them which one they like

762
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: the most, and almost every one of them will rank

763
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: them the same way. The first is always the best.

764
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: Last year was the most organic and surprising, and then

765
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: there's the two middle ones and whatever. We love them,

766
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: but they weren't that. They weren't as good. They just weren't. See,

767
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: I don't look at them like that. I look at

768
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: championships as championships. Okay, I look at championships as championships.

769
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: The ones we watched when Kobe and Shaq, those were

770
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: the most exciting and the most dominant. But I love

771
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 1: the ones we won with Palgasol. I love the one

772
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: we won with Anthony Davison and Lebron James.

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Speaker 2: I'm about winning championships, and when you have a storied

774
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 2: franchise winning his franchise in NBA history, that type of stuff.

775
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: You're not nitpicking your championships. You're stacking them. You're stacking them.

776
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: Let's say the team, that's what it is.

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00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised where you're coming from because I've experienced

778
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: that fan base enough to know how it operates. And

779
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: I'll admit to you it's kind of the way I

780
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: look at the Lakers this year. Why I think you

781
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: look at it a little bit worse than I do,

782
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: because that fan base, and if you want to say

783
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: it's simply about it's its glorious history, that's fine, but

784
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: it is so black and white. Did you win the

785
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: ring or did you not win the ring? And I

786
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: think that there's something lost there. There is to me,

787
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: there's something about the journey that that matters. And therefore,

788
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: for instance, this year, you're not gonna win the darn thing,

789
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: but you overachieved. They're gonna take you. They're gonna take

790
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: you to June or damn close to it. And and

791
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: that's worth something. You got got you got.

792
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 3: Four weeks of basketball that you probably at.

793
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: A certain point this year didn't think you were gonna

794
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: get or didn't deserve. And maybe it sets you up

795
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: for next year in different ways, like it's a constant

796
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: journey that's never ever over. And and to me, the

797
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: Laker fan base at times, certain Laker fans miss something

798
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: of value because it's not a championship.

799
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that, and I understand that, but when

800
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: you're used to winning, that's what it is, you know

801
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 2: what I mean. And I can't get that out of

802
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 2: my system. I can't make it. You think New England

803
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 2: was happy with Matt when Matt Jones last night last year,

804
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: the year before went to the playoffs. You think they were, hey,

805
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 2: we had it, we didn't have any we hold on,

806
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 2: we didn't have any Brady, but we made the playoffs.

807
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: You think they were like yeah, No, they were like, yo, man,

808
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: what's happening.

809
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: Like I would ask a Patriot fan if you expected

810
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: Mac Jones to show up and.

811
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 3: Have it looked like Tom Brady, you need a hospital.

812
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 3: You're nuts.

813
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not look at the history. I look

814
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: at the history of the Lakers and what they've been

815
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: able to listen, hold on what they've been able to

816
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 2: do decade. It's not history. We just two years ago,

817
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 2: just want a championship. Two years ago. What are you

818
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: talking about? We're in the Western Conference finals. What are

819
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 2: you talking about? What is what is over? What I'm saying,

820
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 2: do you hold on.

821
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 1: Anything Kobe or Shack or Magic related is over? Yeah?

822
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we have Lebron James, we have Anthony Davis.

823
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: When you look at the roster, those are the only

824
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 2: two people that have guaranteed deals on the current roster,

825
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 2: which is interesting, right, which gives you room to do

826
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 2: what you need to do. You don't have any dead

827
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: money on the cap, all of that's gone. You can sign,

828
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 2: you can do whatever you need to do this offseason

829
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: because you have a blank slate outside your two best players.

830
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: To me, that's encouraging. Because the Lakers are the Lakers.

831
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: It's a brand we've seen in history that people want

832
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: to play for that brand. Look at all of the

833
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 2: great Lakers who didn't get drafted by the Lakers. They

834
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: want it to come to the Lakers.

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00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: Sure, that's expecting success at a high bar, at a

836
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: high level. And obviously that's the way it works with

837
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: very good organizations.

838
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 3: That has now.

839
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: Been built with Golden State that is currently going on

840
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: in Boston, even though it's been a long time since

841
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: they've won a championship, and even go back even further

842
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: if you take away the one. But my point is

843
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: is there's a certain level of myopic behavior if all

844
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: the good players leave and you expect the same result.

845
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: So this expectation you're talking about has now certainly been

846
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: built here as well. But if when Steph Curry retires,

847
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: I show up the next year and go championship or

848
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: bust because Warrior your team.

849
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: If Steph Curry retires and Kevin Durant is on your team,

850
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: right if my man, my man, what I'm saying, what

851
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying is eight, I get that. I understand that.

852
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 2: But if you have a roster with two of the

853
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: top ten players in the league, you wouldn't spect them.

854
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 2: Who is his z who Lebron let's talk about that.

855
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god, let's talk about don't do that hol.

856
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Speaker 1: It on you. You started off the show talking about

857
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: poor decision, tired play, Yes, nothing left, yep.

858
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 3: Well, then you're not a top ten player.

859
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: And for the entire season, you don't think Lebron James

860
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 2: was a top ten player.

861
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: Do you think I could come up with ten names

862
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 1: right now that would have been better served in these

863
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: this year, these playoffs in the Western Conference finals, solely

864
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: because they're not thirty eight.

865
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 3: And wouldn't have your words run out of gas?

866
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: Can you don't think I could? I don't know. I

867
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: fest left Giannis left in the first round, but you

868
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: wouldn't expect more out of him.

869
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 3: He not a better player right now than Lebron.

870
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, Okay, I mean, let's see if I can

871
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: do it. Let's see if I can come up with

872
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: ten players. All right, we'll do that coming up next.

873
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 3: Mark with it.

874
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: He from slam Fox Sports Radio. All right, let's go.

875
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: These arethetyrag dot com studios. Ay from Let me be clear,

876
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: I do think Lebron James is the top ten player

877
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: in the NBA. The reason I asked the question is

878
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: because of what I heard you say off the top

879
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: of the show. I wasn't even sure exactly what you meant.

880
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: In terms of going forward, he's one of the greatest ever.

881
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: He averaged twenty eight and a half a game in

882
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: the regular season. Yeah, average five points less though in

883
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 1: the season, And based on what you were saying.

884
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 3: Off the top, it felt very much as.

885
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: If you're saying, there's there's a problem with the process here,

886
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: because when you get to the playoffs, Lebron has got

887
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 1: to figure out how to not tire out. And he's

888
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: gotten to the Western Conference finals and it looks like

889
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 1: he's tired out. Which if the goal is a championship

890
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: and you can't get to the end because you're going

891
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: to tire out, would suggest that you would like maybe

892
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: even a little bit lesser player. If said lesser player

893
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: is younger and less apt to tire out, that's kind

894
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: of premise of what I'm saying. So let me start

895
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: by asking you this, who's the best player on the Lakers?

896
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis, Okay, in terms of leadership, it's Lebron James.

897
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, what what what do you want more

898
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 1: right now? What?

899
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: What's the rankings the leadership is what can get you

900
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 2: over the So the reason I was so hard on

901
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 2: Lebron James earlier in the show is because we expect

902
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: that leadership. We expect the basketball IQ, the fact that

903
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 2: you've been in hundreds of these games to supersede the

904
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 2: tiredness the age. Right, you don't compound them, right, you

905
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: don't compound you being a little tired than the normal

906
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 2: with making poor decisions like turning the ball over or

907
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 2: shooting a shot that you're not hitting.

908
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: You get that.

909
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 2: That's the problem I'm having. Look, I understand he's thirty

910
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 2: eight years old and he's aging and he's not as

911
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: surprised as he once was, But making poor decisions, to me,

912
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: that's unacceptable.

913
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: Well, I wonder if they're one and the same thing.

914
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: In other words, if you're saying, don't shoot that shot,

915
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: you should be taking it to the hole because that's

916
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: your advantage. And his thought is I don't have the

917
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: juice left to take it to the hole. Well, and

918
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: now you've got a problem. And I wonder what the

919
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: answer is to that. And I don't know. But as

920
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: you watch this series, is it your belief that Lebron's

921
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: ability to have the effect on playoff series as he

922
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: has in the past, is no longer there late in

923
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: the NBA playoff schedule because of age and fatigue.

924
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 2: Look, the fatigue thing to me is you know what

925
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 2: is to be expected, right, as a professional athlete, you

926
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 2: know what there's to be expected. This isn't the first

927
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 2: time he's been in this situation. Okay, now, you take

928
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: care of yourself. And I get it. I know the

929
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: foot injury. It's probably worse than they're letting on. I

930
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 2: understand that.

931
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: I get it.

932
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 2: We can watch them lumber up and down the court, right,

933
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 2: we can watch him take fifteen possessions to get off

934
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 2: the ground when he falls.

935
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: I get it, you know.

936
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: But to me, what I'm saying is, you have to

937
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 2: give your team a chance to compete. If you're tired

938
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 2: going to the hole, you put the pressure on the defense.

939
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 2: You don't let them off the hook. And you shooting

940
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 2: six threes and not making any of them, or eight

941
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 2: and not making any of them, or making one, you're

942
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 2: letting them off the hook. But you know that because

943
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: you've been here and you know what this is. So

944
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: we expect something different than what we're seeing. That's the problem.

945
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 2: I'm having I get it.

946
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: I just don't know if it's rational to expect it.

947
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: I guess that's what I'm saying because we deal with

948
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: this all the time when teams are aging, right, Warriors

949
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: fans talk about this as well. Is it when something

950
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: is not happening that you want to see happen? Is

951
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: it a matter of can't or won't? Right?

952
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 3: Is it a decision that's being made load management?

953
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: Right? Are you deciding not to play good defense? Or

954
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: can you just not do it anymore?

955
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: And that we've seen it, we've seen once he put in,

956
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: we've seen it, right. Yeah, coming down the spurt is

957
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: coming down to the end of the game.

958
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: That's the spurt you want.

959
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 2: I don't need the spurt, right, Like I don't need

960
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 2: the spurt, right, and with seven minutes to go in

961
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 2: the first quarter, I need the spurt.

962
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: You don't want the right, Yeah, that's you don't want

963
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: the spurt in. You don't want it in January? No,

964
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: but maybe he doesn't. Maybe he doesn't have it in June. Well,

965
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: maybe there's no spurts last and we haven't wonder so

966
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: we haven't seen that before. So now I'm just going

967
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: off what we we've never seen that. We've never seen

968
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: the level of turnover and mistakes that are being made

969
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: and Lebron at this level, we we can you except

970
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: that meltdown of course, not that the meltdown when he

971
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: was young playing against UH, the Celtics, when he was

972
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, first science Boston it's Boston, yep, or the

973
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: meltdown and in the finals against UH, when he was

974
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: in Miami against the Dallas Mavericks, right like that, There's

975
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: been some of that there.

976
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,919
Speaker 2: So my my thing now is like I can't give

977
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: you the excuse of you know, back to back, they

978
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 2: haven't really had to travel where Like I mean, this

979
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: has been pretty good for him, it's been pretty good.

980
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 3: But when it goes, it goes, and I.

981
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: And it's gone.

982
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 2: Obviously it's gone now well maybe maybe maybe correct maybe.

983
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: Or right, like you know, small sample size, and so

984
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: when it goes the first time you see it, you

985
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: don't know did it go or was that just a

986
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 1: bad week. Believe me that we spent the whole week

987
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area doing this to Klay Thompson. Did

988
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: it Did it just go well with Clay yes, that

989
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: is it? Or because he didn't playing like that the

990
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: whole year. He played like that in the Lakers series. Yeah,

991
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: but he was. He was.

992
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 2: He's never been himself defensively now shooting, Okay, that is

993
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 2: what defensively, defensive offensively, and that's his part, Thompson's. You know,

994
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 2: shooters have good and bad games. But he couldn't get

995
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 2: himself together defensively at all. And that is a problem

996
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 2: that is a direct reflection of because you know what

997
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 2: starts to happen mentally, you want to do it, but

998
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 2: when your body doesn't cooperate, Now that effects not only defense,

999
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 2: but now it affects offense because the self doubt rumes in.

1000
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 1: Well, and I I mean, look, is Lebron above self doubt? No?

1001
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: He is not. He is true. All right, So let

1002
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: me let me throw these names at you, because I

1003
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: promise I'll go for ten to see if I could

1004
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: get there. Okay, and again this is intricate. It's not

1005
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: I'm not saying these players are better, but do you

1006
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: think they'd have a better chance to lead your.

1007
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 3: Team come round three?

1008
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: Right? Embiid embiid No?

1009
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 2: Well, okay, Anthony Davis no, no, absolutely not.

1010
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: A d Jo Kich, Jannie Luca, KD. Tatum Booker, Steph.

1011
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: So yet now we're going on Donovan Mitchell, Damian Lillard.

1012
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 2: I mean like I wouldn't take I wouldn't take Damian

1013
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 2: Lillard over Lebron. I wouldn't take don Donovan Mitchell over Lebron.

1014
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 2: I wouldn't take uh Jason Tatum over Lebron. I wouldn't

1015
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 2: take who uh Booker Booker. I wouldn't take Booker. I

1016
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 2: would take Steph maybe anybody on the list. I just

1017
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 2: gave you, ye, it wasn't so what I'm what I'm

1018
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 2: saying is those intangibles, the intangibles that make Lebron James

1019
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 2: who he is, right, Devin Booker doesn't have that. Devin

1020
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 2: Booker can score. Devin Booker couldn't guard you. He couldn't

1021
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 2: guard Steve the Seger, Right, you get.

1022
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: What I'm saying. He's very slippery.

1023
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 2: His based on cuts are amazing.

1024
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: Like I don't even know what he does outside of

1025
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour, Like I don't even know

1026
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: where he goes.

1027
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 7: I want to follow.

1028
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 2: I'm watching them Steve Stevens and pull ups, but every

1029
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 2: time before he comes on, I'm watching him. Right now,

1030
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 2: this man has a full leather and the sweat. Steve,

1031
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 2: tell this man the calisthenics that you're doing in there

1032
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 2: preparing to be with us.

1033
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, I'm out of breath.

1034
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 8: Maybe can come back. You know what I'm out of

1035
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 8: breath watching? Is the Celtics go in the tank in

1036
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 8: this series? Can we just call this series what's going?

1037
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, we can. We can. I'm not can. We can't?

1038
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,479
Speaker 1: Like print print to shirts, the Nuggets and the Heat

1039
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, here we got ZERI watch is on

1040
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: so good? You will get out here, you will spot

1041
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 1: watch it. You will, but I'll spot of course, It's

1042
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: my job. Come on, man, what.

1043
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 8: Can I just be the first to say out loud,

1044
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 8: We're gonna have an enormous, enormous number of days off

1045
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 8: between now and the finals. Because I believe it is

1046
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,959
Speaker 8: written in Penn the NBA Finals don't begin until June.

1047
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 8: The first tonight is May twenty first, we're we're a

1048
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 8: week away from the Memorial Day weekend. Still forget June.

1049
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 8: The first ye well, the lead in the second quarter

1050
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 8: was Miami fifty nine to thirty nine over Boston Statford

1051
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 8: AP Going back twenty five years, the Miami Heat we're in.

1052
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 8: They're up twenty in a playoff game. They've won forty

1053
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 8: three straight playoff games. Now the halftime lead is a

1054
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 8: mere fifteen. It's a sixty one forty six over the

1055
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 8: Celtics fifty over fifty eight percent shooting for Miami, forty

1056
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 8: one percent shooting for Boston. Celtics had seven turnovers in

1057
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 8: the first quarter. Jason Tatum four of eleven, nine points,

1058
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 8: Jalen Brown five for thirteen, ten points from three point range.

1059
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 8: Brown is zero for four and he has three turnovers

1060
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 8: in this game. Celtics down fifteen, risking being down three

1061
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 8: games to none in the NBA's East Finals after tonight.

1062
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 8: In the West Finals, Denver, already up three games to none,

1063
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 8: plays Lakers tomorrow night in La Quite. A stack came

1064
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 8: out after last night's loss for la at home Lakers,

1065
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 8: going down OH three. The franchise has never won a

1066
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 8: playoff game after going down three games to none. Their

1067
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 8: OH to eight record the most losses without a win

1068
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 8: in that situation. Nuggets have never been to the NBA

1069
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 8: Finals there one win away. Nuggets have never swept an

1070
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 8: opponent in a playoff series.

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Speaker 7: That could happen tomorrow night.

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Speaker 8: Stanley Cup Playoffs Vegas two games to none in the

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Speaker 8: West Finals. After another overtime win against Dallas three to two,

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Speaker 8: brooks Keepka won the PGA championship, third of his career.

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01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 8: Scottie Scheffler and Victor Hovlin tied for second place. By

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Speaker 8: the way, Dustin Johnson was nine overpar after shooting a

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Speaker 8: third straight seventy four. NASCAR's All Star Race is on

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Speaker 8: FS one tonight. They're down to about the last fifteen

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01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 8: laps at North Wilkesboro, North Carolina, and Kyle Larson is

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01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 8: still in the lead. Bubba Wallace is running second. The

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Speaker 8: sixth hundred at Charlotte is next Sunday night on Fox TV.

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01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 8: The NFL Spring meetings start tomorrow in Minnesota, and baseball

1083
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 8: Everything's final now the doubleheader is done.

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01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 7: In New York.

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Speaker 8: The Mets have won five in a row, including a

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Speaker 8: twin bill sweep of Cleveland five to four and in

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Speaker 8: the nightcap two to one. Justin Verlander went eight innings

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Speaker 8: for the victory, losing pitcher Shane Bieber. The Guardians went

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Speaker 8: eight innings. Padre shut out Boston seven to nothing. Saint

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Speaker 8: Louis beat the Dodgers in Clayton Kershaw ten to five,

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01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 8: Kershaw made it into the fourth inning. Is all four

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01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,479
Speaker 8: runs allowed, ninety five pitches thrown is ERA two point

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01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 8: nine to eight for the season. Texas beat Colorado thirteen

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Speaker 8: to five. Yankees won their fourth in a row, Atlanta

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Speaker 8: and Milwaukee with victories. Philadelphia edged the Cubs two to one,

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Speaker 8: and Houston won at seventh straight game two nothing over Oakland.

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Speaker 8: The A's record ten and thirty eight.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, oh Steve, great stuff. You'll love this,

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Speaker 1: both of you guys. The NBA Final schedule. You're talking

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Speaker 1: about June first and it being the matchup that no

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Speaker 1: one wants to see. If we have to take a

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Speaker 1: full if these are sweeps and we take a full

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01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: week off.

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01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,919
Speaker 3: Will even anyone remember that we need.

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01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: To come back to the TV to watch these games.

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01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: And should that series go seven games, that game seven

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01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: will happen almost a month from today.

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01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 3: Wow, June eighteenth.

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01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: Is when Game seven will be played of this NBA

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01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: Finals if necessary.

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01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 7: Somewhat anti climactic.

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01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 3: Wow, talk about stretching and here.

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Speaker 8: Going into the conference final. Some people are thinking, you know,

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01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 8: Boston's won seventeen NBA titles all time, Lakers have won

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01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 8: seventeen NBA if one gets into the.

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Speaker 7: Finals for history.

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01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 8: Oh good, Yeah, neither's won a game in the conference

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01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 8: finals so far.

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01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 2: It was right there for the taking, or was it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like you're gonna walk out of

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01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: this series saying should have had it.

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01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 3: I mean the Nuggets have clearly outplayed them, right.

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Speaker 2: Well, not in the first two games. I mean those

1124
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 2: games were those games. It came literally down to the

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Speaker 2: last minute of each of those games.

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Speaker 7: Most of Game one, right game Game Game.

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01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:44,439
Speaker 1: Two was there for the taking Game one.

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Speaker 8: Come on, man, you know, going back to what Ephim said,

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01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 8: it was a Lebron three that missed that cost them

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Speaker 8: the tie.

1131
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 2: Lad in game I mean, that was just a bad,

1132
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 2: bad decision, a bad play.

1133
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: It's done.

1134
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 2: It just didn't I'm like, why would you do that.

1135
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 8: There was one point at this series where I'm sitting

1136
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 8: literally in this chair and Laker fan was producing through

1137
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 8: the glass in the next room, and I said, you know,

1138
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 8: if Lebron doesn't take another three the rest of his life,

1139
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 8: I'm okay with that.

1140
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 2: I'm fine, I am okay.

1141
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, seriously, I've heard that line about a

1142
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: lot of This is something we could have some fun

1143
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 1: with this when an NBA team that is potentially either

1144
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: supposed to or might win a ring when it ends,

1145
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: you hate the star player that seems to be the deal.

1146
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 1: Philly hates Embiid, They hate James Harden right now. New

1147
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: York hates Julius Randall. We're sitting here talking about if

1148
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: I never see another Lebron three, it'll be don't hate Lebron.

1149
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 2: What we do is we hate the decision making.

1150
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 3: Well the situation.

1151
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: Yes, your Memphis is probably is Memphis living with Jahn

1152
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: Morant right now.

1153
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 8: And people have talked about Jason Tatum's fourth quarters the

1154
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 8: last couple of games.

1155
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many texts I have on

1156
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: my phone. If I never see Jordan Poole drive to

1157
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: the hole again, it'll be too soon. Right, it's all there.

1158
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: And you guys, with what you just said, you're setting

1159
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,799
Speaker 1: up the next one. How's Boston doing with Jason Tatum

1160
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: and Jalen Brown when this thing's over? How we doing?

1161
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 3: How we doing?

1162
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 2: They gonna have to go somewhere with them, they both

1163
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 2: can't stay there. That'll be six over six hundred million

1164
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 2: dollars between two players, not gonna happen.

1165
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 8: And Boston's been in the East Finals five of the

1166
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 8: last seven years.

1167
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this is Boston.

1168
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,799
Speaker 8: This is one of the glorious histories of American sports

1169
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 8: teams and not catching it.

1170
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 1: And had a two to one lead in the NBA

1171
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 1: Finals last year with the next game at home. Yeah,

1172
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 1: it's like, so, I wonder. I wonder though, do those

1173
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: emotions actually lead to change? And there's a bunch of

1174
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: different players we can talk about here. Let's talk about

1175
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown, who can't hit a three pointer to save

1176
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 1: his life. He's got one more year on his deal,

1177
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 1: twenty eight point five million dollars next year, which means

1178
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:18,679
Speaker 1: he's also eligible this offseason to talk extension ninety eight.

1179
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 1: You're giving it to him? No, you can't. Okay, so

1180
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:24,560
Speaker 1: what are you doing with it?

1181
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 2: Because you gotta trade him? Because the next is Tatum

1182
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 2: is what three seventeen because of the All NBA both

1183
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 2: of them made All problem.

1184
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,799
Speaker 7: He's two for seventeen on threes in this series.

1185
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 2: Yes, but that's you know, I mean the numbers. You

1186
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 2: can't that's six hundred million dollars. The contracts now are

1187
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 2: getting to a point where you know, if you have

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01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 2: two guys on your team and they sign. It used

1189
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:55,600
Speaker 2: to be you got two like Miami, right they had.

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Speaker 2: I think Lebron was making one forty, Way was making

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01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 2: one twenty two and Box was making one fifteen. That's

1192
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 2: one guy, now, right, that's one guy.

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01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's spread out. It's spread out over a

1194
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: bunch of years. I understand.

1195
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Speaker 2: But when you're where when you give them sixty million

1196
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 2: dollars a year, what I mean, where you who's gonna

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Speaker 2: be on.

1198
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: The team with him?

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01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 2: Marcus Smart? He gotta get who's gonna who's gonna be

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01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 2: on the team.

1201
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: Well, the problem is you trade him. You gotta get

1202
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 1: money coming back? Well, you gotta get something to pay somebody.

1203
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 2: And I think that's where they are right now in

1204
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:43,480
Speaker 2: terms of, uh what they're gonna do moving forward, especially

1205
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 2: given that these guys cannot muster up enough together to

1206
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 2: get you a championship.

1207
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's uh let's discuss uh something that I

1208
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: think we could tweak it a little bit. But uh,

1209
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: Sir cow Hr himself brought something up with regard to

1210
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown and a trade just about a week and

1211
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: a half ago. I'll lay out what he said. We

1212
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: can tweak it a little bit. You tell me if

1213
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: we're on to something, because yes, I do think this

1214
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 1: series is gonna make it hard for the Celtics this

1215
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: offseason to tell their fans we've gone and done it

1216
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: again and Jalen Brown will be here for the next

1217
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 1: five years for a billion dollars. It's gonna be hard

1218
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: to pull off. So what do they do next? Let's

1219
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: get into that coming up next on Fox Sports Radio.

1220
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to interrupt your flow, man, but we

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01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: are live from the tyrag dot com.

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Speaker 2: Stuarts be Alex must be Alex on the Ones and twos.

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01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 1: Yeah it is.

1224
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 3: It's different, doesn't it.

1225
01:12:52,840 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 1: He sounds sexy. It's music and food when the lights

1226
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 1: are not on, when Alex is on the Ones and Twos, Alex,

1227
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: I just dusted a mushroom pizza.

1228
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 3: I know you're keeping track, So it's gone.

1229
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: It is going. That's six. That's six meal number six,

1230
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 1: and we're not going to bed anytime soon, uh, because

1231
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Speaker 1: we have done yet. Here on Fox Sports Radio, Mark

1232
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 1: Willard and e from salav So Colin threw this out

1233
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, made a bunch of news. Bill Simmons

1234
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: laughed at him. Warriors and Celtics Jalen Brown and Malcolm

1235
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 1: Brogdon in exchange for Jordan Poole and Andrew Wiggins. Now,

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01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: I think the Celtics say no to that, but I

1237
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: think that there are some tweaks. I think that there

1238
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 1: are some discussions there. But what's your first reaction to

1239
01:13:54,080 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 1: that mere idea? I think.

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01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 2: I think that works because what you're getting back is

1241
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 2: you're getting back a defensive player, and you're getting back

1242
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 2: a real solid offensive player and Andrew Wiggins. And you're

1243
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 2: getting a spark plug that you can bring off the bench. Right,

1244
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 2: You're getting a Broggden style young spark plug that has

1245
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 2: you know, he just has to grow very immature, very young.

1246
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 2: Things like this help players grow up. Right, this backlash

1247
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 2: he's experiencing, you have to look at yourself now and

1248
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 2: be like, oh, that was it me? Right, Like you

1249
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 2: give you a bag of money, so you can't see

1250
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 2: if it's you or not, because why would they give

1251
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 2: me this money if it was me.

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Speaker 1: You gotta remember, they didn't have re up them when

1253
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: they did well, so they didn't. And that's been a

1254
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: source of much discussion. Reminding people, Yeah, but I remind people,

1255
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: where would they be right now if they hadn't done that.

1256
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 1: Now he's a restricted free agent, and now it's out

1257
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 1: of your control.

1258
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 3: You either to match someone else's deal or.

1259
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 1: Let him let him go for nothing, and if you

1260
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 1: do match, then it's not tradable for six months.

1261
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 3: So if if the.

1262
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Speaker 1: Thought was just just assess the asset. I hate it

1263
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 1: when we call people assets, but right like, assess the

1264
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 1: asset and then keep flexibility, then the deal wasn't as

1265
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: crazy as as maybe it sounds. Now. It didn't help

1266
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 1: that he had a very poor playoff, but you know

1267
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: that maybe makes it feel like it's a little expensive.

1268
01:15:56,200 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: But when they did it allows for some flexible and

1269
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 1: keeping it under your control. Yeah, I get it.

1270
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,839
Speaker 2: Now they're in a situation where they have the control

1271
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 2: and you can't turn the keys over to the Kingdom

1272
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 2: to Jordan Poole and not that not now.

1273
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no.

1274
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 2: And we know the Golden State Warriors and Steve Curz

1275
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 2: come out and said they want Draymond. If they don't

1276
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 2: have Draymond, they're not a championship team. All of those things.

1277
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 2: If Draymond decides to opt out, what do they do

1278
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 2: now They may have be having com Steph may be

1279
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 2: having a conversation. I don't know how you have this conversation,

1280
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 2: you know, I don't. I don't know how you know

1281
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 2: you have this conversation with with Draymond, like just opt

1282
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 2: in this one last year?

1283
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 1: No right that the Warriors. I think the Warriors are

1284
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 1: completely willing to do a three year a new three

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01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: year deal with them. It's an opt out and a

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01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 1: new three year deal. What do you do with a

1287
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 1: lot of money. It's a lot of money. It's a

1288
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 1: lot of money. It's a lot of money. Squeeze the

1289
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: orange till there's no juice.

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Speaker 2: Well, Play's making with forty seven next year.

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01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 1: I think it's forty three, forty three next year.

1292
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 2: And Steph is fifty eight, fifty nine.

1293
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 3: Sign for Sampson.

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01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:19,719
Speaker 2: Something with a five thirty.

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01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 3: Seven, No, Jorn Poole. Next year is twenty eight, twenty.

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Speaker 1: Twenty eight. Now. The thing is, the thing is on

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01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 1: the Warrior cap is that Jordan. Everyone goes, oh, he

1298
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:35,640
Speaker 1: signed an extension. Some people forget it didn't kick in yet. No, no, no,

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01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: he hasn't had a dime of that this year.

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Speaker 3: This year Jordan made four. Next year he's gonna make

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01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 3: twenty eight.

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01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 1: When you facture in the luxury tax penalties for the

1303
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors. That twenty four million dollars pay hike

1304
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 1: actually turns into something north of one hundred million dollars

1305
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: to the Warriors. So they were at about three seventy

1306
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 1: two this year salaries and taxes. They've clearly said over

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01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 1: and over we're not going over four hundred, and so

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01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, Okay, if you're not going over

1309
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:13,839
Speaker 1: four hundred, well then where are you trimming. Devincenzo probably

1310
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 1: opts out that four to five million is gonna go

1311
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 1: away plus its taxes. If Draymond opts out, then maybe

1312
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 1: you do a new three year deal where that first

1313
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 1: year is just a little bit less than what the

1314
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 1: opt in would have been, and the taxes, and you

1315
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: trade Jordan Poole for seventy five cents on the dollar.

1316
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: And maybe what we're talking about is the deal or

1317
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 1: some framework of it that that we just mentioned. What

1318
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 1: Boston gets out of it is production that's under contract

1319
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 1: for four more years at twenty some odd per year

1320
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 1: as opposed to the escalator to Jalen Brown.

1321
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 3: But what are the Warriors get. I'll tell you this.

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01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 1: If you do that deal you're signaling to Klay Thompson,

1323
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 1: enjoy your last year as a Warrior. Oh? Absolutely, yeah,

1324
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 1: it's I wish something's got to give. Man.

1325
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 2: They a lot of emotion there, and I get it,

1326
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 2: we get it. They want to keep the bands don't

1327
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 2: stay together. It just the money's too big now, right,

1328
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 2: And you know you're paying half a billion dollars in

1329
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:31,640
Speaker 2: luxury taxes. That thing about the skyrocket up too. They

1330
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 2: gonna make it hard for you.

1331
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: To do this.

1332
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 2: They're gonna make it even harder. They'll make it hard.

1333
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:41,719
Speaker 2: Half a billion dollars in taxes. Oh man, it's wild,

1334
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 2: It's wild.

1335
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 1: All right. I got a play in tournament question for you,

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01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: So we'll do that coming up next as we continue

1337
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio.

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01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,400
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1339
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:56,800
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1340
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:01,040
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1341
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:01,840
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01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:07,520
Speaker 3: My man, Print the damn tickets. Print the tickets.

1343
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 1: You know how they always like they got those shirts

1344
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 1: when it's like a Game seven, and they got them

1345
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: made for both teams, and everyone always goes, what happens

1346
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 1: to the shirts for the teams that lost? Oh, we

1347
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 1: donate them and we take them right overseas. You don't

1348
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 1: need to make any Lakers Celtics t shirts. No print

1349
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: the tickets. The Nuggets are playing the Miami Heat in

1350
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals and they start in four months. I

1351
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 1: can't wait. It's gonna be amazing. Get your tickets four

1352
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 1: months from today. Heat Nuggets Game one.

1353
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, but it's over Yeah. If it's over

1354
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 2: there by twenty five twenty Miami came and deal what

1355
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 2: they're supposed to do.

1356
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be a repeat of a bubble.

1357
01:20:55,360 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 2: Would love to play Miami in the championship.

1358
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:04,719
Speaker 1: Except for except for would you have because quick question,

1359
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: obviously love to be there. You would have loved it.

1360
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 1: You would have left? Sure?

1361
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, what's happening here?

1362
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 1: What the hell is going on?

1363
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 3: What on earth?

1364
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 1: If you want to call this the next is and

1365
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 1: O's question, do it. If you want to say this

1366
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,719
Speaker 1: is spiritual, do it. I don't care. What the hell

1367
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 1: is going on here? An eight seed that barely figured

1368
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: out the playing tournament, Waltz is into the Eastern Conference

1369
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 1: playoffs and dominates from the jump. Jimmy Butler will have

1370
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: on the resume Johnnie one seed, Boston two seed, all

1371
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: in the entire state of New York.

1372
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 3: Bye bye, Hey, are you what the hell is this?

1373
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what happens. I preach this on the

1374
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 2: show because I know what this is. There's a different

1375
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 2: seas a second season. Nothing you've done in the regular

1376
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 2: season matters when you get to the playoffs. And that's

1377
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 2: across the board in every professional sport. If there is

1378
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 2: a playoff system, it doesn't matter what seed you are

1379
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 2: any longer, wild card, one seed, eight seed, it doesn't matter.

1380
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 2: That's the Giants, that's Tom Brady, right, like, you have

1381
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 2: to be there now right. There is no excuse, There

1382
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 2: is no hey, we're tired. Like I said at the

1383
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:49,839
Speaker 2: beginning of the program, all of that is out the window.

1384
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 2: It's the team that can play their best during this

1385
01:22:54,680 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 2: second season. Excuses go bye bye. And I think that's

1386
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 2: the most important part. Miami, this is what they do.

1387
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 2: But Jimmy Butler, I mean, yes, this is what the

1388
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 2: last three four years they've been in the conference finals.

1389
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 1: Four and thirty eight. Yeah. Man, hey, it doesn't matter.

1390
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: That's my point. That's my question though, Yes, you have

1391
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:28,600
Speaker 1: to get there. But Tyler hero is out look, but

1392
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 1: he gonna be back. But they get him back now,

1393
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 1: I know, I know, check that out. But and I mean,

1394
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 1: even look at tonight's game. Nobody has scored a ton

1395
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 1: of points as an individual. Jimmy Butler's got twelve, hey man,

1396
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 1: the leading score for Miami is eighteen. And the guy's

1397
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 1: name is Gabe Vincent. And unless you have a league past,

1398
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: you've never even.

1399
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 2: Heard of him. Yes, you have never heard of him

1400
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 2: when you're not top heavy. Right to remember, they have

1401
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 2: five undrafted free agents out there. Three of them start

1402
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 2: undrafted free agents, and so you're in a situation where

1403
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 2: the team and the coach that can prepare their team

1404
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 2: and get them ready to go have the distinct advantage.

1405
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter who's on the court. So there

1406
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 2: is no excuses once you get into the playoffs. Brother,

1407
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,679
Speaker 2: all those excuses they go bye bye.

1408
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 1: Right.

1409
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 2: Injuries happen, like I said, a war of attrition. You

1410
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 2: could stay healthy, you got a shot. Can't stay healthy.

1411
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 2: Milwaukee sons, right, And I don't think it would have mattered.

1412
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 2: You know, if Chris Paul was healthy, I think he's

1413
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,520
Speaker 2: past his prime. I think he struggled in these playoffs.

1414
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 2: So I don't really think it mattered. But what we

1415
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 2: knew is Kevin Durant and Kevin Booker couldn't score eighty

1416
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 2: five points a game.

1417
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 1: They almost could, they couldn't know it, just you know.

1418
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 3: So, I mean, I guess, I guess.

1419
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,759
Speaker 1: My question though, is, like I hear everything you're saying,

1420
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: I feel it, I get it. But this roster, you

1421
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 1: would think it is to do more than show up

1422
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 1: with the right mindset. I'm looking at that. I'm looking

1423
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 1: at this going what on, Like, how how is this

1424
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: roster doing this?

1425
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:46,480
Speaker 2: This coaching coaching in the playoffs is paramount those adjustments,

1426
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 2: But it's paramount. We know who's the better coach in

1427
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 2: this series. That's evident. We know who's the better coach

1428
01:25:55,040 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 2: remaining in the playoffs. Eric Poser is the real deal.

1429
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who's on that Miami team. They're viable.

1430
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 2: Think how many times they've been in the conference championship?

1431
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 2: Are the finals without the Big Three?

1432
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? Since the Big Three? I should say, yeah, no,

1433
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 1: he's a great coach, But when when has that? Like,

1434
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a terrible comp because of where

1435
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 1: we sit today. But just because Greg Popovich shows up

1436
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 1: doesn't mean your roster is gonna go win in the

1437
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 1: Western Conference.

1438
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 2: Talent there, there's talent there. Well, Jimmy Butler's Jimmy Butler.

1439
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 1: Sure, there's Bam, but I mean we were pretty quickly

1440
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: getting to B level players. Gimmy Butler, Jimmy's an a

1441
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 1: well Tyler hero Bam out of Baio.

1442
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but right, well we know it doesn't feel

1443
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 2: like enough. What pop problem is though Pop refuses to

1444
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 2: imbrace problem, to embrace the change. If you he refused

1445
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,839
Speaker 2: to break, well that's what happens.

1446
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 1: He got pops though, Man he got pops. Yeah, he

1447
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 1: got pups.

1448
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:18,799
Speaker 2: But he also remember he had he he doesn't believe

1449
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 2: in the analytical uh three point shot. He doesn't doesn't

1450
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 2: run plays for it or anything like that. So you

1451
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 2: if you don't embrace what's happening, like, you have to

1452
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 2: have shooters. Now, mid range is where the money is

1453
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, but you gotta have shooters. You gotta

1454
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 2: have guys who can hit wide open threes because that's

1455
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 2: what you won't be able to score enough. And I

1456
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 2: think you know, unless you embrace that, then you find

1457
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 2: yourself in a situation where you know it's what are

1458
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 2: you gonna do, hm hmm. And I think pop pops,

1459
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 2: old school pops, old school.

1460
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I get it. I get it, and and

1461
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 1: and that matters in all sports. That's why you know

1462
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 1: there are certain sports I don't think so much. In

1463
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 1: the NFL yet, Major League Baseball has decided their head

1464
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 1: coach is straight middle management. And that's a compliment. We're

1465
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 1: not letting you people go down there and mess around

1466
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 1: with our players and the system and the numbers and

1467
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 1: all that. We're not letting you do that. So here,

1468
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,560
Speaker 1: here's a million dollars and a year and a half contract.

1469
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 1: Don't mess it up. Do what we tell you to do.

1470
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:41,640
Speaker 1: That's the way baseball gets run. Now, So I understand that.

1471
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 1: I just listen no matter what you say right now.

1472
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 1: You can X and ow me, you can explain it

1473
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 1: from the player perspective. You can say whatever you want.

1474
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 1: And you're only going to partially cover my amazement because

1475
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 1: this because because what the hell is this? Honestly, like

1476
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,600
Speaker 1: you could and you can answer it thirty times and

1477
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 1: I'll still be like, I get it, but what the

1478
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 1: hell is this? Yeah? Because Miami is up by thirty two,

1479
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:15,759
Speaker 1: and I watched them in the second playing game, losing

1480
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:20,759
Speaker 1: in the second half, and now I mean they're about

1481
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 1: to sweep the Boston Celtics out of the finals, and

1482
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if.

1483
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:26,679
Speaker 3: They're gonna go beat the Nuggets next.

1484
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 1: I mean, all I'm saying is all that we know

1485
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 1: in sports, all that we know. You know, if we

1486
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 1: get some mid major in the College Football National Championship,

1487
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 1: we go, Man, this is right?

1488
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 3: What this is Cinderella. This is a ton of fun.

1489
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 1: Probably gonna get it handed to them when they get

1490
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 1: in the end, but this is pretty fun story. Hell,

1491
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 1: you just watched it. I don't really love anymore. Call

1492
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 1: in San Diego State and mid major. They were a

1493
01:29:56,520 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 1: top twenty team, but right, okay, but they win the

1494
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 1: champion They go to the championship game against a blue

1495
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 1: blood and people are like, oh my god, this is

1496
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 1: an unbelievable story. And they made it all the way

1497
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 1: to the end and they held up strong, and we

1498
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 1: made a story about that. Wow, this is incredible. In

1499
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:18,600
Speaker 1: all this, I'm sorry what the Miami heater doing. It

1500
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,520
Speaker 1: challenges my sports sensibilities.

1501
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:27,599
Speaker 2: There is no rational Hell no, there is no reason

1502
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 2: for this to be happy.

1503
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can hear Spolster was good and Jimmy was

1504
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 1: ready well great like, So if that's all it takes,

1505
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 1: then why couldn't I say to the Dallas Mavericks, Hey

1506
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 1: Jason kidd uh be a good coach, and hey Luca

1507
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 1: be ready. I mean, that's what this feels like. And

1508
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:50,759
Speaker 1: then they just fly through the whole league. I'm sorry.

1509
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 3: The NBA doesn't do we don't do this in the NBA.

1510
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 1: We don't do this in the NBA. No eight seed's

1511
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: ever gone to the finals before, and this eight seed

1512
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 1: had to work to be an eight seed. Yeah, it's crazy, man,

1513
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,439
Speaker 1: this being undervalued right now?

1514
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 3: How much of an upset this is?

1515
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:11,639
Speaker 1: And I love it. I love it. I just wish done.

1516
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, I hear you, man.

1517
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 1: But so that's what it's gonna end up being. It's

1518
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 1: gonna this NBA Finals is gonna feel like a little

1519
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:24,560
Speaker 1: engine that could versus the other little engine that could. Yeah,

1520
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 1: and just think about this.

1521
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 2: Lebron James is now faced with the reality of blowing

1522
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 2: an opportunity to have five championships. That is that now,

1523
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 2: that is something that is going to be talked about.

1524
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 2: And it look, man, when you're in. And the reason

1525
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 2: I was so hard on him because he's in the

1526
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 2: constant argument of some people think he's the greatest player

1527
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:56,639
Speaker 2: of all times, some people think he's the second greatest

1528
01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 2: player of all times. So if you're in that content

1529
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:03,640
Speaker 2: stint argument and you're still playing at the level he

1530
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 2: was average twenty eight points a game this year, right

1531
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 2: outside of who at his age, maybe Kareem, I don't know.

1532
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 1: This is top Yeah, oh you're talking about historic. Yeah

1533
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 1: I thought you mess Yeah, no, no, no.

1534
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 2: But before he hurt the foot, he was averaging twenty

1535
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 2: thirty two points a game, and so we expect that

1536
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:32,559
Speaker 2: level of play. You don't wait to the playoffs to

1537
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:37,440
Speaker 2: get worse, right, Like, you don't get to the playoffs

1538
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:40,680
Speaker 2: and then start worried about and talking about fatiguing. Not

1539
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:44,200
Speaker 2: that he is, but the pundits are, well, he's you know,

1540
01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 2: there's only a day rest and he's got a Hey.

1541
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 1: Bro, we don't care.

1542
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 2: That doesn't resonate with us because the other team gets

1543
01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:58,560
Speaker 2: the same amount of rest.

1544
01:32:58,760 --> 01:32:59,759
Speaker 1: They gotta go play.

1545
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 2: So if you're that guy, you gotta be that guy, period.

1546
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:12,679
Speaker 1: That's how it works. That's how it works. We don't

1547
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:15,720
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1552
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 1: about Eric Spolstra. He had something real interesting to say

1553
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 1: about that play in tournament. We'll play that for you

1554
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 1: and discuss coming up next with I from Salamam Mark Willard,

1555
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:42,040
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1561
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 1: or not?

1562
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 2: You and the more firmst person you come to, and

1563
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 2: the sex and lady next to you you come to,

1564
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 2: like man center outside of heaven waiting for God to

1565
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 2: come and get me. I'm too uncool doing cool to

1566
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 2: the boys and too uncooved and who can come Saturday Indville.

1567
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Yes I do like the plane.

1568
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 1: No man, take your time, but take your sweet loving time. No,

1569
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 1: I do. I do like the playing tournament.

1570
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 3: Why why what is it like about it?

1571
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 2: Because it it at the end of the season. We

1572
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 2: saw teams really playing, really positioning themselves. When you're out

1573
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 2: of the playoff hunt, right that nine tenth seed, there's

1574
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 2: an opportunity there and I like that. I like the

1575
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 2: fact that it's just now we're gonna wait on the

1576
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:59,599
Speaker 2: ping pong balls. It's we can do something here, we

1577
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 2: can have a shot. And I like that because we're

1578
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:08,679
Speaker 2: seeing right now that a playing team, an eight seed

1579
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 2: is going to be in the NBA Finals. I think

1580
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 2: it adds a different layer. And you also get to

1581
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 2: see the teams that aren't about that life case in

1582
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:26,040
Speaker 2: Point Dallas, Yeah right, you get to weed them out now.

1583
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 1: They had to go out their way. Yeah, they had

1584
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 1: to go out of there.

1585
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 2: So you get to see what's going on and you

1586
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 2: get to really know who your team is and what

1587
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 2: they're trying to do in a cup. And I love that.

1588
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:39,639
Speaker 2: I love that aspect of it, I really do.

1589
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 1: I dig all of that. And then there's maybe a

1590
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 1: little something else I would say too. What I think

1591
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 1: sports sporting leagues need to reach out for whatever possible.

1592
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 3: Is this word urgency?

1593
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 1: That's it. I think sports like basketball, major League Baseball

1594
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 1: is a little like this too. You're not the NFL.

1595
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 1: So when the Jags play the Houston Texans on a

1596
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 1: Thursday night, we're watching, we're watching? Why are we watching? Well?

1597
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 1: I got a fantasy player here, I got whatever. It's

1598
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 1: an NFL game we're watching. But if you're an NBA game,

1599
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 1: or if you're a Major League baseball gain you're a

1600
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 1: Laker fan. When Charlotte plays Detroit, how you doing? How

1601
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 1: you doing? On a Tuesday? How you doing? You in? No?

1602
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 3: Can you even stomach it?

1603
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:45,640
Speaker 1: Okay? Major League Baseball ladies and gentmen gather around the

1604
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 1: television set. The Twins are playing the Oakland A's how

1605
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 1: you doing? It's Wednesday? What you think? Nope, not doing it.

1606
01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:59,639
Speaker 1: That's why I love the wildcard game in Major League

1607
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 1: Baseball because it didn't matter who was playing.

1608
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 3: I could sit down and watch elimination game.

1609
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:10,559
Speaker 1: Same thing here. Now, if Charlotte someday plays Detroit in

1610
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:15,720
Speaker 1: playing game, uh huh, yep, I'm in I'll sit there

1611
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 1: and watch that, right. I mean, I can still remember

1612
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 1: that Laker Minnesota game. You and I are texting like,

1613
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on around the world today?

1614
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:31,639
Speaker 1: What is happening in this basketball game? Does anybody want this?

1615
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 1: People throwing the ball out of bounds, tripping over each other,

1616
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 1: looking at each other. Nobody could get to one hundred points.

1617
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, my god, what is happening here? But it

1618
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 1: was beautiful drama like it looked like an episode of

1619
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 1: Desperate Housewives or something. I'm like, man, everything's messed up.

1620
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 1: Let me make popcorn. Like that's that's great. That's great

1621
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 1: for the NBA. However, with Eric Sposter's Miami Heat now

1622
01:37:56,960 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 1: on the verge of the NBA Finals, because let's check in,

1623
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, the Miami Heat are now oh it's all.

1624
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 1: It's been cut to twenty five. Nerve wracking. Anyway, Miami

1625
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 1: is about to go up three to zero. And this

1626
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:13,719
Speaker 1: NBA season, if you're not the Nuggets in the Heat

1627
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 1: is visually cooked. Okay done. So here comes Eric Spolstra

1628
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 1: with one thing that the NBA may love or they

1629
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:28,519
Speaker 1: may not, because he certainly indicates that maybe the Heat

1630
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 1: ended up with a little bit of an advantage because

1631
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:33,599
Speaker 1: of the play in tournament. This is what he had

1632
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 1: to say.

1633
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 9: I do know the play in hell play, they're far

1634
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:41,519
Speaker 9: less teams tanking. Everybody was fighting for it those last

1635
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 9: two months. Every game was must see TV, and that

1636
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:46,559
Speaker 9: was in both competencees well. So I think the league

1637
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 9: that's probably the.

1638
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 10: Best thing that's happened in the last decade. It was

1639
01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 10: a blessing to be able to go through.

1640
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:51,640
Speaker 1: All of that.

1641
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 10: I have not been a part of the regular season

1642
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 10: like that, and I think loll Crew got better from

1643
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 10: it to not let it collapse our spirit but really

1644
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:02,759
Speaker 10: just harden us and steal us and bring us closer together.

1645
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:05,960
Speaker 10: And they developed that kind of grit and perseverance that

1646
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:07,680
Speaker 10: that's needed in the postseason.

1647
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 1: So he's not directly saying what I'm talking about, but

1648
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:15,800
Speaker 1: I think he indirectly is. And we have this rest

1649
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:19,679
Speaker 1: versus conversation in the NFL every year. Now he's talking

1650
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 1: about it's taking away tanking and it makes the people

1651
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 1: who are in the playing tournament go through a little

1652
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 1: bit of an experience. But I don't think that that's

1653
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 1: very far off from that whole idea of well, these

1654
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 1: other teams who are top six seeds, well, they're just

1655
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:38,719
Speaker 1: sitting there for a week and a half and we're grinding.

1656
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 1: And then when we hit the ground running against the

1657
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:45,320
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Books and they were a little injured, man, we

1658
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:50,040
Speaker 1: steamrolled them and then we got going. And so I'm

1659
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:52,120
Speaker 1: not taking anything away from the Miami Heat, but I

1660
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:55,720
Speaker 1: do wonder if that was a bit of an unintended consequence.

1661
01:39:57,160 --> 01:40:04,559
Speaker 2: What I think is, it's the chance, it's the opportunity,

1662
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 2: right And as good as teams records are, what we're

1663
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 2: saying is there's so much parody in the NBA. I

1664
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 2: think that's a good product. I think the play in,

1665
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 2: I think the two teams who were in the play

1666
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 2: in to be representing their conferences in the final, I

1667
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:32,919
Speaker 2: think all that lends to the parody in the league.

1668
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 2: You make these blockbuster trades and Phoenix gets d and

1669
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,720
Speaker 2: it was over. They odds on favors to come out

1670
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:42,519
Speaker 2: the West. They did not come out of the West,

1671
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 2: right like, So it's right, it's you see this movement,

1672
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 2: this ragtag group from LA you know, turn over their

1673
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 2: almost their whole roster, three fourths of their roster end

1674
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:07,439
Speaker 2: up representing you know, the Western Conference in the Western

1675
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 2: Conference finals. So I I the story is there, the

1676
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 2: parody is there, and I think it makes for a

1677
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:20,799
Speaker 2: better product. That Laker Golden State series was amazing.

1678
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 1: It was. It was amazing.

1679
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 2: You look at you know, the New York the Knicks

1680
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 2: were back in like all of this. This is yes,

1681
01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:33,000
Speaker 2: this is what we want out of our NBA. The

1682
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 2: one thing I tell you is what we want out

1683
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 2: of a teammate is we want a teammate that it

1684
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:40,320
Speaker 2: can come on at the halfway mark in the hour

1685
01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:43,439
Speaker 2: and and and come in with the splash. That was

1686
01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 2: his nickname in high school. You know that splash. That's

1687
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 2: our very own stephen S the Sacre.

1688
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 1: Splash.

1689
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,680
Speaker 7: Thank you very much, I thank the gentlemen. There we go.

1690
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:00,160
Speaker 8: We can update the three point shooting and in this

1691
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 8: Eastern Conference Finals for Boston's Jalen Brown, it's now two

1692
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:07,639
Speaker 8: for twenty from long distance in this series and still

1693
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 8: he shoots it is. The Miami Heat leadings ninety seven

1694
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 8: to seventy three over Boston mercifully under eight minutes to

1695
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:16,920
Speaker 8: go in Game three, Heat about to go up three

1696
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 8: games to none. Game four will be Tuesday, also in Miami.

1697
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:23,760
Speaker 8: Celtics shooting thirty six percent from the floor, Miami at

1698
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 8: fifty five percent. Gabe Vincent leading the way with twenty points.

1699
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:30,799
Speaker 8: He's eight of eleven from the floor for the Heat.

1700
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:33,639
Speaker 8: In the West Finals, Denver up three games to nonplays

1701
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 8: the Lakers tomorrow night in LA. The Nuggets have never

1702
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 8: advanced to the NBA Finals, and again the finals this

1703
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 8: year don't begin until June the first. As for the

1704
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:45,920
Speaker 8: Stanley Cup Playoffs, overtime win for Vegas, A one seed

1705
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:48,479
Speaker 8: beats Dallas again in OT three to two the finals,

1706
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:50,880
Speaker 8: so at two games to none lead for the Golden Knights.

1707
01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:53,720
Speaker 8: They had beaten Dallas in Game one, also in overtime.

1708
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 8: The Golden Knights with eight come from behind wins already

1709
01:42:57,400 --> 01:43:00,759
Speaker 8: this postseason. Last year, Colorado had ten come from behind

1710
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:03,720
Speaker 8: victories on the way to the title. Brooks Keepka won

1711
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 8: the PGA Championship, the third of his career. Scottie Scheffler

1712
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 8: and Victor Hovelin tied for second place. Bryson Deshambo tied

1713
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:14,599
Speaker 8: for fourth. Michael Block was the story and the fan

1714
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:18,479
Speaker 8: favorite club pro from Southern California, a guy who on

1715
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 8: Friday revealed that he and his entire team already had

1716
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 8: flights booked home to California for Saturday because he thinks

1717
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna make the cut. Here he was the

1718
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 8: only club pro who did. And here we get to

1719
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:37,559
Speaker 8: the final round and he's paired with Rory McElroy, and

1720
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:41,040
Speaker 8: it's this guy, Michael Block, who has a hole.

1721
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:43,639
Speaker 7: In one today. At one point was in the top ten.

1722
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 8: He finishes tied for fifteenth, which means he's in the

1723
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:53,000
Speaker 8: PGA Championship next year. A truly stunning story. NASCAR's All

1724
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 8: Star Race was on FS one tonight, won by Kyle Larson.

1725
01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 8: Bubba Wallace finished second, but this is an exhibition, no points.

1726
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 8: It's Larsen who earns the one million dollars winner take

1727
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:06,240
Speaker 8: all to Major League Baseball. The Mets have won five

1728
01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:08,960
Speaker 8: in a row, including a double header sweep of Cleveland.

1729
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 8: They played two after yesterday's rainout. Today in New York.

1730
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 8: Mets beat them five to four tonight behind eight innings

1731
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:17,120
Speaker 8: of pitching from the winner Justin Verlander.

1732
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 7: Two to one. Mets was the final.

1733
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:22,400
Speaker 8: San Diego shut out Boston seven to nothing, Saint Louis

1734
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 8: over the Dodgers ten to five. Texas won again thirteen

1735
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 8: to five over Colorado, and the Yankees won their fourth

1736
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:30,800
Speaker 8: straight four to one at Cincinnati, while Houston won at

1737
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:33,559
Speaker 8: seventh in a row, two nothing over Oakland to win

1738
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:36,760
Speaker 8: to from ber Valdez a complete game four hitter. Right

1739
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 8: now with about seven minutes left in Miami, it's the

1740
01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:42,160
Speaker 8: Heat one hundred to seventy six over the two seed

1741
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 8: Boston Celtics. Miami ready to go up three games to none.

1742
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 1: Back to you night night now, Miami and Denver. June first,

1743
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:59,720
Speaker 1: get your popcorn, no popcorn, gets your phone. Look at

1744
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:04,680
Speaker 1: the high that's right, looks second screen involvement, that's what

1745
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 1: they call that aphram, and just turn it onto the

1746
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:10,599
Speaker 1: background and scroll through Instagram. That's what you can do

1747
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:14,639
Speaker 1: starting on June first. Hey, Steve mentioned the Mets there.

1748
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:18,320
Speaker 1: The New York Metropolitans record is now twenty five and

1749
01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 1: twenty three. They have won five in a row, and

1750
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 1: they are incond place and it's very early. So okay,

1751
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:28,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna put that aside for a sec. But can

1752
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:31,639
Speaker 1: we talk about money for a sec and use the

1753
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 1: San Diego Padres as an example. Sure, they won to

1754
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:37,639
Speaker 1: day as well. They're twenty one and twenty six. They

1755
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:42,559
Speaker 1: have scored more runs than a total of one National

1756
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:46,520
Speaker 1: League team, and that team is the Miami Marlins and

1757
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:48,680
Speaker 1: none of you can name any of the players on

1758
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:53,519
Speaker 1: that team. So I wonder, I wonder the San Diego

1759
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 1: Padres And yes it's early. One eight game win streak

1760
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:01,439
Speaker 1: makes this all go away and everything is fine. But

1761
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:03,840
Speaker 1: I can tell you man, I know you do too.

1762
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:07,280
Speaker 1: We got a lot of friends in that area of

1763
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:11,120
Speaker 1: the country and none of them have any hair left

1764
01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:14,120
Speaker 1: on either sides of their head. They've done, yanked it

1765
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:17,799
Speaker 1: all out. This is so frustrating that team.

1766
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:21,520
Speaker 3: What were we at? Seven guys with seven.

1767
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 1: With the with the the nine figure contract. I mean,

1768
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:32,759
Speaker 1: how is that lineup second to last in the league

1769
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 1: in scoring?

1770
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:35,960
Speaker 3: How is it possible?

1771
01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 2: It's only been forty seven games, and you know how

1772
01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:43,720
Speaker 2: baseball can go. If they hit it and find it,

1773
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:47,599
Speaker 2: they're gonna find it. You know that, if they hit

1774
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 2: it and find it, they're going to find it. You're right,

1775
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 2: So you're right. That's the That's the crazy thing about baseball.

1776
01:46:56,160 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 2: It's the length of the season and in the games,

1777
01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:06,479
Speaker 2: and it's it's literally, like like you said, they catch

1778
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:12,280
Speaker 2: fire and they rattle off eight games and the bats

1779
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:17,000
Speaker 2: come alive. Now the conversation is, okay, how far can

1780
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 2: we go? So I like to I know, it's frustrating.

1781
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:28,280
Speaker 2: It's hard to watch. I get it. Kind of like

1782
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 2: me and these Western Conference Finals. Sometimes you just got

1783
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:38,280
Speaker 2: to turn the television off just to save yourself jumping

1784
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:44,840
Speaker 2: out you know, the balcony, right, I'm sorry, you know, Hey,

1785
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 2: I told you that thing jumped. Oh my god, Miami

1786
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 2: is I I know.

1787
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:52,880
Speaker 1: I know.

1788
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 2: I don't even think Jimmy Butler bam. I don't think

1789
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:56,679
Speaker 2: they even played in the fourth quarter.

1790
01:47:57,240 --> 01:47:59,720
Speaker 1: Oh no, they're they're yeah, they don't even got any

1791
01:47:59,720 --> 01:48:04,559
Speaker 1: of this anymore. There's they're just Jimmy's finishing this game

1792
01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:08,000
Speaker 1: with sixteen points. Vincent's about to drop a thirty burger.

1793
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 1: Hoof undrafted?

1794
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:16,760
Speaker 2: Good lord anyway soon right, remember what?

1795
01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:20,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, May, if you can hoop, man, you can hoop.

1796
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:25,040
Speaker 1: You can hope, you can hope. I listen, It's not

1797
01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 1: about some team that's five games under five hundred and

1798
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 1: it's only May. It's not that. I mean the Washington

1799
01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 1: Nationals a few years ago when they won the World Series.

1800
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 1: Their record was horrible and for the first two months too.

1801
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:39,759
Speaker 1: I'm just more I'm always fascinated. This is all teams.

1802
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by roster building, roster construction philosophy, right go

1803
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:48,160
Speaker 1: even back to the conversation we had a couple hours

1804
01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:50,959
Speaker 1: ago about the Lakers and the lack of homegrown players.

1805
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:54,799
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by the way teams decide to go about

1806
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:59,040
Speaker 1: building their empire. And the Padres. I've long said, look,

1807
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:04,439
Speaker 1: I get it because I was working in that market

1808
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:10,120
Speaker 1: when the Chargers left, and so I very much understand

1809
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:13,960
Speaker 1: exactly what the Padres were doing. They had an amazing

1810
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:17,160
Speaker 1: farm system, but they felt it was time to pounce

1811
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:20,360
Speaker 1: and really get the fan base behind him, and my god,

1812
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 1: they've done an amazing job. Peto Park is party park,

1813
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 1: and it used to be empty park.

1814
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 3: There was a joke, running joke for the.

1815
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 1: San Diego media every year on Opening Day, pet Goo

1816
01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:39,040
Speaker 1: Park would be jammed, press boxed, jammed. Seventh inning rolls

1817
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:43,840
Speaker 1: around and the media starts standing up and looking at

1818
01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:45,559
Speaker 1: each other and going, see you next year.

1819
01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 3: And that's it because.

1820
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:50,800
Speaker 1: They don't go to any games except for opening Day.

1821
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 3: And now it's amazing there.

1822
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:58,880
Speaker 1: It's so much fun. But I've long said this is

1823
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:02,639
Speaker 1: going to have a shelf life because like, for instance,

1824
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 1: can you go pay Juan Soto when he finally is

1825
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:08,599
Speaker 1: due for a long term deal when you're also paying

1826
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:13,240
Speaker 1: Manny and Fernando and Xander and Musgrove and you darvi it.

1827
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:14,880
Speaker 1: I mean on and on and on and on and on.

1828
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:19,479
Speaker 1: So how this is gonna end at some point? And

1829
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:23,960
Speaker 1: that's why for them, boy, getting something done is urgent.

1830
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:30,000
Speaker 1: That window is by definition shorter than others, and so

1831
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:37,479
Speaker 1: I wonder if they have just overdone it a little bit.

1832
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:49,360
Speaker 2: Probably, Yeah, it's good answer. Yeah, probably it's excessive. But

1833
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 2: I mean you watched teams buy championships before or by sure, right,

1834
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:57,920
Speaker 2: so why why not when you haven't won anything ever?

1835
01:50:59,320 --> 01:51:01,360
Speaker 1: Totally with it. But not if you go twenty one

1836
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:03,639
Speaker 1: and twenty seven to get out to score any runs?

1837
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 1: I get it.

1838
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:07,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you paid the money you got up tonight.

1839
01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's the second time they've scored over five

1840
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:13,439
Speaker 1: runs in fourteen games.

1841
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:18,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh with that lineup. Yeah, it's tough, man, Yes,

1842
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:20,800
Speaker 2: why that's tough, kind of like the Lakers line up

1843
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 2: getting swept.

1844
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:24,760
Speaker 1: Sorry, I keep bringing everything back there, but I know it.

1845
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:27,439
Speaker 1: It's okay, brother, I know where your heads. I've been there.

1846
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:29,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that, but I've been

1847
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:30,320
Speaker 1: there rather recently.

1848
01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:36,599
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown are one for fourteen from

1849
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:43,720
Speaker 2: three who got the one twelve Jason okay, and twelve

1850
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:53,639
Speaker 2: for thirty five from two. They have fourteen and ten points. Yes,

1851
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:58,040
Speaker 2: this is what's happening in thirty three minutes and in

1852
01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:01,439
Speaker 2: twenty eight minutes. Yeah, no one else in the starting

1853
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:03,320
Speaker 2: five has scored double digits.

1854
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 1: You want to stream some Boston sports radio tomorrow morning.

1855
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:14,280
Speaker 1: So what it sounds like you think? You think they're

1856
01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:21,680
Speaker 1: still worried about mac Jones. I'm thinking probably not. All right,

1857
01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:25,560
Speaker 1: don't ever, ever, ever, ever bring up the words conspiracy

1858
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:29,720
Speaker 1: theory with the NBA ever again. We'll explain, We'll get

1859
01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:33,040
Speaker 1: to it. Mark Willerty from Salam five Sports Radio.

1860
01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:36,880
Speaker 11: Turning into them such a screen form knocking on the drive,

1861
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:45,200
Speaker 11: please prepared one head put the hippens on a Sunday hallelujah.

1862
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:50,120
Speaker 1: Right there is from seven ninety the ticket in Miami,

1863
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Speaker 1: dot Com, Tyrack dot com Studios. It's Mark willard E

1869
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 1: from Salam And as we started off talking about it,

1870
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:17,760
Speaker 1: I mean, the thing has only gotten worse from this

1871
01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:21,799
Speaker 1: is an absolute you know what, kicking by the Miami

1872
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:25,919
Speaker 1: Heat tonight. So we got two dueling three nothing series.

1873
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:29,760
Speaker 1: The Heat Celtics series is even more more and more

1874
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:34,080
Speaker 1: over than the Nuggets Lakers one, simply because the Heat

1875
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:36,519
Speaker 1: we're able to get to on the road. Uh to

1876
01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:39,439
Speaker 1: start this whole thing. Uh, but this is it and

1877
01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:44,800
Speaker 1: it's one thing to lose, it's another thing to go

1878
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:47,720
Speaker 1: out this way, and then it's a third thing to

1879
01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 1: do it. When your host city is the city of Boston,

1880
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:54,880
Speaker 1: where there are a lot of championships to be had,

1881
01:53:55,800 --> 01:54:00,200
Speaker 1: it is a rabid fanbase and one that is not

1882
01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 1: gonna sit there and take things lying down. They're going

1883
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 1: to say it. So it's interesting because let's talk about

1884
01:54:07,200 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 1: changes for both of the teams that have come in

1885
01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 1: with high hopes into these conference finals and now have

1886
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:17,200
Speaker 1: them dashed. The Boston Celtics. When you lose this way,

1887
01:54:18,120 --> 01:54:20,960
Speaker 1: it's the kind of loss that makes you feel like, Okay,

1888
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 1: we have to do something totally different. So what do

1889
01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 1: they do they got it?

1890
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:29,080
Speaker 2: Well, we know it can't be Jalen Brown and and

1891
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 2: Tatum anymore, I think as well as he's played for him,

1892
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:46,360
Speaker 2: you know, Al Horford, you just I mean, everything has

1893
01:54:46,400 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 2: been there for you and you can't. You can't solve

1894
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 2: the puzzle. So you gotta deconstruct. We know Tatum's going

1895
01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:02,640
Speaker 2: to be there, that's your and so you got to

1896
01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:05,000
Speaker 2: build around him, to build around him in a way

1897
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 2: where you know, you know, do you bring in.

1898
01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 1: You know? And I really at this point, I really don't.

1899
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:17,440
Speaker 1: I don't.

1900
01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:20,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what you can you can bring in

1901
01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:27,480
Speaker 2: in terms of veteran veteran leadership leadership championship. You know,

1902
01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:28,800
Speaker 2: if you would have asked me at the begin, if

1903
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:32,400
Speaker 2: if Kevin Durant wouldn't have gone to the Suns, I

1904
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:37,480
Speaker 2: would have been like, Okay, d to to Boston, you

1905
01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:38,840
Speaker 2: know what I mean? I would have been like that.

1906
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:43,640
Speaker 2: That would have made sense. But now I don't know.

1907
01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is. I don't know what

1908
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:51,000
Speaker 2: you put around Tatum. And he's got size in the

1909
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:59,600
Speaker 2: front court, he's got shooting. You know they missed, uh,

1910
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:06,560
Speaker 2: he may's defensive strategy and focus. The coach is clearly

1911
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:10,840
Speaker 2: not the answer. It's been out coached at every turn,

1912
01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 2: and and now your state's re upped him with four years. Right,

1913
01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:20,840
Speaker 2: m h, what do you do?

1914
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:24,680
Speaker 1: What do you do? Well? I can tell you that

1915
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:27,200
Speaker 1: it's going to be a topic of conversation around these

1916
01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 1: parts tomorrow because Jalen Brown, in my perfect opinion, would

1917
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:39,240
Speaker 1: be a perfect Warrior played college ball right down the street,

1918
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 1: and and it's exactly what they need. A great Lakers

1919
01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:46,080
Speaker 1: player who plays YEP, player who plays both ways, a

1920
01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:51,800
Speaker 1: player who is young. And I wonder, I wonder if

1921
01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:56,880
Speaker 1: there's better with the Lakers. Well maybe maybe because in

1922
01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:59,520
Speaker 1: transitioning to that, what do you do there? Now you've

1923
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:02,440
Speaker 1: got the aid, maybe not the ultimate, but you have

1924
01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:05,840
Speaker 1: a wide open roster. I want to say ultimate flexibility.

1925
01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:08,280
Speaker 1: When you got two guys making eighty seven million dollars,

1926
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:11,960
Speaker 1: but you got a wide open roster, there's room. And

1927
01:57:12,040 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 1: that's both good and bad. Like they put something together

1928
01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:17,880
Speaker 1: that worked for this year. Uh, now you gotta put

1929
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:20,000
Speaker 1: something together again. So what do you want to see

1930
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:20,280
Speaker 1: them do?

1931
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Speaker 2: I want to see them. I'd love to see Shrewd

1932
01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:31,360
Speaker 2: come back. I love his defensive prowess. I love his

1933
01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:35,360
Speaker 2: on He's small, but his on on. I think Vanderbilt

1934
01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:38,640
Speaker 2: is great defensively. I think you need to get some

1935
01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:41,360
Speaker 2: bona fide shooters. We wanted Beasley to be that. He

1936
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:45,120
Speaker 2: wasn't that. So you know, do you look at that

1937
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:47,800
Speaker 2: Buddy Hill thing. Do you look at a wing like

1938
01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:50,800
Speaker 2: a Jalen Brown that comes in and gives you, you know,

1939
01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:55,400
Speaker 2: scoring plus defense. I think you need another big. I

1940
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 2: think you'd need a center, somebody who can come in

1941
01:57:57,800 --> 01:57:59,800
Speaker 2: and play center. You can put a d at the four.

1942
01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:04,640
Speaker 2: I just I hate that they didn't have. Like why

1943
01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:10,200
Speaker 2: is Dwight Howard playing in Taiwan? He would have been

1944
01:58:10,200 --> 01:58:11,160
Speaker 2: a huge asset.

1945
01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:15,360
Speaker 1: Do you not how many times the word why has

1946
01:58:15,400 --> 01:58:17,880
Speaker 1: been attached to a question about Dwight House, Like why

1947
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:18,880
Speaker 1: are you in Taiwan? Bro?

1948
01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:23,200
Speaker 2: Like Thomas Bryant, I would have loved for him to

1949
01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:23,680
Speaker 2: stay there.

1950
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

1951
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:34,480
Speaker 2: So you gotta get shooting and defense, like you you

1952
01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:37,560
Speaker 2: still have to what they did. Now, you have to

1953
01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:43,240
Speaker 2: lock in that formula. You gotta lock in that formula.

1954
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:51,040
Speaker 2: So I think, uh, they gotta they gotta look and

1955
01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:53,080
Speaker 2: see who's available, see what they want to do. I

1956
01:58:53,120 --> 01:58:55,040
Speaker 2: don't think you have to bring in the super I

1957
01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:57,360
Speaker 2: would love to get if you get a superstar Amy

1958
01:58:57,400 --> 01:59:02,800
Speaker 2: Man as well. Bring on, Dame, Dame, Dame, you know.

1959
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Speaker 3: How are you how are you getting any of these people?

1960
01:59:05,160 --> 01:59:08,120
Speaker 2: This is all just this is there's no there's no

1961
01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:09,880
Speaker 2: there's no avenue for it.

1962
01:59:10,360 --> 01:59:12,600
Speaker 1: That's their their biggest issue there is they have no

1963
01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:15,440
Speaker 1: assets to trade. That's their actual people.

1964
01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:16,920
Speaker 2: Just gotta come. They gotta be free agents and they

1965
01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:19,800
Speaker 2: gotta want to come to just come, ye, So we'll

1966
01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:23,560
Speaker 2: see what that market looks like, all right, my man.

1967
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Speaker 1: When we get together the Nuggets and Heat will will

1968
01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:31,240
Speaker 1: still not have started. The great show started, but we'll

1969
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Speaker 1: figure it all out coming up next week