WEBVTT - HBO Business Finance Drama Returns

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<v Speaker 1>This is Bloomberg Business Week with Carol Masser and Bloomberg

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<v Speaker 1>Quick Takes Tim Stinovic on Bloomberg Radio Market Calendars Everybody, Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>August first, the second season of Industry making its way

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<v Speaker 1>to HPO. It's setting a fictional investment bank in London,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's branching out a little bit, and I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>say the Bloomberg terminal featured in a big way. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty excited about it. I really enjoyed season one, looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to season two and excited to speak to Mickey

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<v Speaker 1>Down and Conrad k There, the writer's co creators and

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<v Speaker 1>executive producers of HBO's drama series Industry. They join us

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<v Speaker 1>this evening on the phone from the UK. Guys, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you were great? Thanks? Yeah, thanks well, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for having yeah, thanks so much for joining us. Hey, Conrad,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start with you and just give us

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<v Speaker 1>an idea of where season two picks up here, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's been quite a bit of time since the debut.

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<v Speaker 1>Is I mean, we had a pretty we had a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty natural Hiatis from a storytelling point of view, because

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<v Speaker 1>obviously there's a two year gap between the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the first season and when it's Aarry in season two

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<v Speaker 1>and he actually, I mean it gave us quite a

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<v Speaker 1>big creative decision because obviously the biggest thing that's ever

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<v Speaker 1>happened to workplaces in the last hundreds of years happened

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<v Speaker 1>and we had this what were this big issue thinking, God,

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<v Speaker 1>does anybody who actually want to watch the TV show

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<v Speaker 1>the features covid um but but so, But what we

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<v Speaker 1>decided to do was sort of jump the characters forward,

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<v Speaker 1>started them in a psychologically quite different place to where

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<v Speaker 1>we saw them in the enter season one, and make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that COVID was sort of textually in the story

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<v Speaker 1>and quite kind of doing with a light touch, but

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<v Speaker 1>also you know, make sure that they had a psychological

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<v Speaker 1>impact of all the characters that make sure it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>drive the plot too much, because we didn't think anybody

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be plunged back into that kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>working from home world. Right. Well, what we love about

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<v Speaker 1>this is you guys were British bankers. You understand this

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<v Speaker 1>world and it's really fun to read kind of blogs

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<v Speaker 1>on it because people who are in the industry are like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>they get it right, Like you really do get kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the field of the culture. If you will so

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<v Speaker 1>make it come on in on this I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>every day there's so much fardder for you guys to

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<v Speaker 1>pull from reality when it comes to what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the financial world. How do you think about the

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<v Speaker 1>evolution of the series and the topics that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to cover. It's really funny because we had some really

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<v Speaker 1>good consultants in the first on the first season and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously me and conrades that I can finance, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're ten years out of the game, so it was

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<v Speaker 1>really helpful to have some people who were on the

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<v Speaker 1>ground um. And in season two we had some really

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<v Speaker 1>really good consultants. We had some I mean, we had

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of secret consultant is a pretty high profile

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<v Speaker 1>guy in the in the industry. It was not more

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<v Speaker 1>with he was he was he was really really good

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<v Speaker 1>at giving us some sort of air to the ground stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was really odd because all the things that

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<v Speaker 1>we came up with this season it seems to have

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<v Speaker 1>come true. I mean, there were loads of there was

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<v Speaker 1>sort of these little thing I mean, there was obviously

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<v Speaker 1>there were some very esoteric um things to be touched

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<v Speaker 1>on this season, the idea of cr mess and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a, there's the idea of Telly health and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously response to the COVID pandemic and all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. It feels like it was quite nice to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to try and predict stuff and to what

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<v Speaker 1>actually happened. And you know, obviously it's a pretty tumultuous

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<v Speaker 1>time with financial markets at the moment, which is was

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<v Speaker 1>great for good drama. Mickey, I'm I'm wondering how, from

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<v Speaker 1>a writing perspective you bring people up to speed on

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<v Speaker 1>what not that they missed in season one. But since

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<v Speaker 1>so much time has passed between the two seasons, how

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<v Speaker 1>you remind people of what actually happened. Are we going

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<v Speaker 1>to see some sort of previously on or how do

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<v Speaker 1>you handle that as as a writer. Yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>really good question, and especially since you know, because of

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<v Speaker 1>the COVID pandemic, there's basically been two years in between

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<v Speaker 1>the seasons. Um, I think we are we kind of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's what the first episode the second

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<v Speaker 1>season is a little bit of a balancing act because

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<v Speaker 1>you want to you obviously want to throw people into

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<v Speaker 1>the deepend and you know, not have too much throat

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<v Speaker 1>clearing and too much reminders of what happened season one.

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<v Speaker 1>But obviously, especially given the time gap between the two seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want people to be lost either. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there probably will be a sort of season recap, but

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<v Speaker 1>there are a few little sort of nods the first

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<v Speaker 1>season and reminders. But I mean, yeah, I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think it's even if you haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>the first season, I think this is this season sort

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<v Speaker 1>of stands up and you know, we throw the characters

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<v Speaker 1>back in and and then you know, the inside the

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<v Speaker 1>interest of Harper coming back into work after a year

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<v Speaker 1>of isolation is a pretty relatable one, and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that sort of yeah, all right, I gotta ask you.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of sex, drugs and rock and roll

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<v Speaker 1>in the series, and Conrad, come on in, or let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with you, Conrad. I mean, keep it clean. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a family audience. But I mean, is that the reality

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<v Speaker 1>of what you guys saw when it came to the

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<v Speaker 1>financial world? Um? Well, look, I mean the answer we

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<v Speaker 1>always give that question is it's obviously slightly sensationalized. When

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<v Speaker 1>people always say, oh, is this based on your sort

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<v Speaker 1>of biography or your live reality of working in these spaces,

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<v Speaker 1>we obviously I mean, you know, it's not a documentary

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<v Speaker 1>of making a se the shows, so we obviously sensationalize

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<v Speaker 1>things and lean into certain things. And me and Mickey,

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<v Speaker 1>because we were creative partnership, I think we're very we're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a bit braver in some of how bold

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<v Speaker 1>we are because we wrote test stuff with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>We try and push each other and we always for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, maybe it because we're demented, we're always learning

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<v Speaker 1>quite perverse places. But I mean, I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>look that that we love. I mean, just to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the sex scenes, I mean, I know you have

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<v Speaker 1>a family audience, but like we're very proud of people

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<v Speaker 1>always like, oh it was in gratuousness, is it objectifying?

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<v Speaker 1>And like we actually think in season two there's actually

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<v Speaker 1>more sex, but weirdly it's more character based. We feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we're telling more story. And it was a very

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<v Speaker 1>it was the kind of the the dialogue we were

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<v Speaker 1>having between the actors, the intimacy coordinators, the producers. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a very much a kind of concerted effort to

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<v Speaker 1>make those things really feel like they were earning their

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<v Speaker 1>place in the show. And the one thing I will

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<v Speaker 1>say for the people put off by the sex and

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<v Speaker 1>the drugs in the season one, and I obviously you

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<v Speaker 1>have a more financially skewed audience. Me and miss You're

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly proud of the finance story that anchors season two

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that in a way that we would

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, in a way that we never really dug

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<v Speaker 1>We never dug up into the real weeds of that

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<v Speaker 1>starting season one, and we've been in season two. We've

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<v Speaker 1>actually rendered it even more authentically. Well, Mickey, come on

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<v Speaker 1>in and finish up with us if you could, because

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<v Speaker 1>I do love that you guys get into hedge funds

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<v Speaker 1>and the private wealth management division. We talked about it here.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, people in our world are getting richer and richer,

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<v Speaker 1>and they just need more and more advisors in private

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<v Speaker 1>wealth divisions to manage it all. Mhmm yeah. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's depicture of private wealth management is I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty sensationalized. I mean, I actually did an internship

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<v Speaker 1>in private wealth management as my first ever job outside

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<v Speaker 1>out of university, and this is us a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a piece of revenge against him. I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>not giving me a job at the end of it.

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<v Speaker 1>There are personal aspects that make their way into it.

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<v Speaker 1>So guys, um, no banking after this, you're completely done

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<v Speaker 1>with banking. Does it make you want to get back

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<v Speaker 1>and do it? Give it another shot? Banking is done

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<v Speaker 1>with us? I think I think banking med it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>mind up when you know the con and they pushed

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<v Speaker 1>me very very keenly towards the door. Well yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know it is. But it is funny actually writing

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<v Speaker 1>about it. And wouldn't me and Mickey have this awful

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<v Speaker 1>term for it where we're not in finance anymore because

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<v Speaker 1>we're writing about it, we're kind of finance Jason, And

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<v Speaker 1>you do you realize how you realize just how many

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly unique and strange and idiosyncratic characters are in that world?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's I don't know. We have an incredible looking

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<v Speaker 1>back right with ten years time, so we have incredible

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<v Speaker 1>amount of actions for that world and all the people

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<v Speaker 1>who work in it. Well, looking forward to seeing these

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<v Speaker 1>stories layout As we said August, first second season of

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<v Speaker 1>Industry making its way to get to HBO, Mickey down

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<v Speaker 1>Conrad k Rotors, co creators executive producers of Industry joining

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<v Speaker 1>us on the phone from UK. I can't wait. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the show,