1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Katie's Crib, a production of Shondaland Audio in 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 2: You meet a mom in a park and you're like, 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: I have two, and they're like, I have two, and 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: then the inevitable next question is are you done? Are 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: you a mom of two? Or are you blah blah blah. 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 2: It's like, let me figure out which box to just 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: put myself in. 9 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: I think there's also got to be some evolution where 10 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: your body has healed, probably after two years or something, 11 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: where or you have just forgotten enough. How hard the 12 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: first few months are because I'm done, and even me, 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: my daughter's two and a half at the time this recording, 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: and I am looking around at little babies and I'm 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: having these dumb things going on in my uterus and 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: in my brain being like, oh my god, I'm never 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: having a little baby again. She's grown up, Like what 18 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: the fuck? 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: That's what's weird. 20 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to Katie's Crib. How is everybody doing. 21 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: I am coming to you live from my clawus where 22 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: I do all of my records, and I'm just really 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: grateful to be in this little bubble where my kids 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: are both at school. Vera's taken a nap. Hopefully she 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: doesn't wake up. And I'm very excited to use this podcast. 26 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: This is an excuse to hang out with one of 27 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: my closest friends who I haven't seen in a while. 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: She's been on the podcast twice before. Oh my gosh, 29 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: somebody get her a what do we get? What does 30 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: she get? A Katie's Crib mug, a Katie's Crib shirt. 31 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what she gets, but this is her 32 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: third times a charm as being a guest on Katie's 33 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: Crib and her second episode is one of our most 34 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: listened to episodes, I think ever in the history of 35 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: the podcast, because she birthed her second baby in a car. 36 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: Yes she did, folks, and her husband caught that baby 37 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: in the passenger seat of the car. And if you 38 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: haven't listened to Troy and Bellisario and Patrick j. Adams 39 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: birth story of their little baby girl, Elliott on season 40 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: I think it was maybe four, might been four. Let 41 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: me tell you it is quite the listen. Even Shonda 42 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: Rhimes herself told me that she listened to the episode 43 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: and she was on the edge of her seat the 44 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: entire time. Today's guest I gotta have a catch up 45 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: and hear how it's going, because I haven't talked to 46 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: her much lately, and I want to know how it 47 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: is going with two girls transitioning to a family of four. 48 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: The one and Only troy and Belisario is here today, folks. 49 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: She's an actress, writer, director, and producer. She's best known 50 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: for starring as Spencer Hastings in the television series Pretty 51 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: Little Liars. She also most recently starred opposite Kate Blanchett 52 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: in the Anna Purna feature Where'd You Go? Bernadette Troyan 53 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: was the lead of John Avnett's web series Whigs. She 54 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: also started in the remas the French cult classic Martyrs 55 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: and Feed, a Sony feature that she wrote, produced and 56 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: acted in herself Try and Start alongside her husband and 57 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: fellow actor Patrick Adams in the twenty nineteen Toronto International 58 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: Film Festival selection Clara and She has won two Teen 59 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: Choice Awards and a Young Hollywood Award. Tryan, thanks for 60 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: being on Katie's Crib. 61 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: Again, Hi trya. 62 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Hi, this is your third Katie's Crib episode. 63 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: I almost texted you. I almost text you to be like, YO, 64 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 2: what are we talking about are we talking about someone specific? 65 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: I basically told the listeners that I sometimes just also 66 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: use Katie's crib to hang out with my favorite moms 67 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: and just be like, how are you doing? Are you okay? 68 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: Like are we okay? Is this happening? The first time 69 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: you came on, we talked about brain and burnout. The 70 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: second time we came on, we talked about the greatest 71 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: birth story that has ever graced the air wa which was. 72 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: Just two years ago on Monday, Elliott turned two on Monday. 73 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: She did, yeah, and I. 74 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: Can't see that's why we're supposed to do this now. 75 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: And I literally had a text from Shonda Rhimes that 76 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: was like, that was the greatest episode I've ever heard 77 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: of anything in my entire life. I was on the 78 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: edge of my seat. The birth story is amazing, and 79 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: I really just want to have you on and hear 80 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: about I think the transition from one to two is 81 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: a big deal that deserves attention. But I also want 82 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: to hear because you have been killing it, and you 83 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: in the past bunch of months at the time this 84 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: recording have been very heavily back at work, and I'm 85 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: curious how that identity shift has been, and I'm curious 86 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: to hear how Aurora is taking to being a big 87 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: sister and how you are juggling being a mom of 88 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: two since she just turned two, big milestone. What are 89 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: we succeeding at and what are we failing at? 90 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: Okay, let's see we're failing. I'll start with what we're doing. 91 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: I love that you start there. 92 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 2: I'm not star I'm not going to success is well, 93 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: because what I feel very strongly right now is the 94 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: and I felt this I remember like right around two 95 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: with Aurora, is the like am I done? Question seems 96 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: to be like really following me around like yours cloud. 97 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: And I think it's because it's just a generic thing 98 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: that like you meet a mom in a park and 99 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: you're like, I have two, and they're like I have two, 100 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: and then the inevitable next question is are you done? 101 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: Are you a mom of two? Or are you blah 102 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 2: blah blah, and it's like, let me figure out which 103 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: box to just put myself in. 104 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: I think there's also got to be some evolution where 105 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: your body has probably after two years or something, where 106 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: or you you have just forgotten enough how hard the 107 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: first few months are. Because I'm done, and even me. 108 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: My daughter's two and a half at the time this recording, 109 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: and I am looking around at little babies and I'm 110 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: having these dumb things going on in my uterus and 111 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: in my brain, being like, oh my god, I'm never 112 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: having a little baby again. She's grown up, Like what 113 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: the fuck? 114 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 2: That's what's weird. 115 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: And I'm looking at photos and pictures of them as 116 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: those little little babies and I don't really remember it, 117 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: and I know now it's gone, and am I done? 118 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: So if I even had an inkling of being unsure, 119 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: I would see a lot of who like what am 120 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: I feeling? What do I want to do? I just 121 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: met someone who's pregnant with a third two, and I 122 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: was like, wait, am I done? I'm done? I'm done? Right. 123 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: And it's hard because it's like whoever you talk to, 124 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: they're the ones who are doing it right. At work 125 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: the other day, sat on set with two people who 126 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: have three kids, and they're like, you're going to have 127 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: that third because it's they play in a pack. They 128 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: were just telling me all the reasons three is the 129 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: magic number, and I was not going to stop it too. 130 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: It's perfect whatever you are, wherever. 131 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: You are, people have to convince themselves wholeheartedly that. 132 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: But where they are. 133 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: Cho the right choice, right, I think that's it. I 134 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: think people also get thrown if any one of their 135 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: child is what we would call difficult or extra spirited, 136 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: because they might have more hands full, you know what 137 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: I mean, where they're it's like, holy shit, I literally can't. 138 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: I don't have the bandwidth. But if you have a 139 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: family unit where the kids are on the spectrum of 140 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: easy and difficult, leaning more towards easier, then in that 141 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: day listen in and they're sort of set up in 142 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: their school life and they're like okay, versus like a 143 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: kid like I don't know, needs a lot more extra attention. 144 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: Then sometimes I might feel like my bandwidth has been reached. 145 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: But from an outsider, I'm like, do a third, Try. 146 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 3: To do a third. 147 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: But it's so funny. Patrick was literally like what are you? 148 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: When would you? What time were you talking about? I 149 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: think the hard thing is like I was so enmeshed 150 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: and just about me, like my relationship with Aurora. And 151 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: that was because not like in an an unhealthy way, 152 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: I hope not, but because Patrick was working so much 153 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: during her first year, she was attached to me all 154 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: the time, Like literally I was wearing her. I would 155 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: go visit him on set, we'd nap together, I'd take 156 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: her home. It was just like primary and primal, like 157 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: we were never without each other. And then when Elliott 158 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 2: came in, I was really speaking about going from one 159 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: to two. I was like totally terrified. I wept after 160 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: who knows why I wept. I'd given birth in a car. 161 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: I'm sure I was reaping for a moment. 162 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: But. 163 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: Car in five seconds. 164 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I cried in the room because I felt a 165 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: like I remember so much you talking about your experience 166 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: with I'll be first being born, because like when Aurora 167 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: was born, we all have our different experiences, but I 168 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: was immediately attached to her. And then when Elliott was born, 169 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: I was getting all of these pictures from Aurora at 170 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: home and I was like, oh my god, like is 171 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: she okay? Like it was a night away from her, 172 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 2: and I was here with this new being that I 173 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: was seemingly totally strange to me. I felt the difference, 174 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: and I felt guilty not only for leaving Aurora and 175 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: for changing our relationship, but guilty for not feeling the 176 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: same towards Elliott. That I did immediately with Aurora, and 177 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: then you know, it's amazing because that totally changes. I 178 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: love being with my two girls, and what would be 179 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: really challenging about a third is like the dynamic of 180 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 2: putting Elliott in the spot of middle child. I experienced 181 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: being a middle child. I know Patrick experience being a 182 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: middle child. There's a lot of specific pain that goes 183 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 2: with that. And now I'm so deeply connected with her, 184 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 2: I'm like that she wouldn't be an amazing sister, but 185 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: that is something where I'm like, wow, right now, you're 186 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: the baby, and that's a certain kind of attention, of 187 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 2: certain kind of love, and you have this protected boulder sister, 188 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: and there's not somebody under you that I'm like, can 189 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: you go over there and play with that. I'm with 190 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: the baby. 191 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: Right I'm breastfeeding. I'm the daba. You said you connected 192 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: to Aurora like immediately, and Elliott was a different experience 193 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: from the jump. How long do you think it took 194 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: you to connect to Elliott. 195 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: I would say it was within that first the first 196 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: forty days. I wanted to be in the flow of 197 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: what I was in with Aurora before Elliott was born, 198 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: and even though I was really pregnant. I was always 199 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: there for her. It was her and me. We could 200 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: go out, we could have a lunch date, we could 201 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: go do this, we could go do that. And then 202 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: when Elliott was born, both of us during those first 203 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: that like fourth trimester like they call it, we were 204 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: kind of house written and she couldn't go out, and 205 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: I was a little bit more like agitated. I was like, Okay, great, 206 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: now the baby's born, and like she's out in the 207 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: world and she's ten days old. I'm a little bit 208 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: more like. 209 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: Ooh, it was covid. I want to hibernate. I want 210 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: to make sure her immunity is up, my immunities up. 211 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: I want to heal exactly, do all those things. I 212 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: love that. I love that. And Aurora is like, the fuck, 213 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: where's my schedule exactly, and was. 214 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: Like I want to go outside and play. And I 215 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: was kind of like, okay, I'm gonna you're gonna go 216 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: out with papa. But that was the thing, was like, 217 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: that was her chance to bond with Patrick. That was 218 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: amazing to see in that, If I'm completely honest, I 219 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: was horror her in a way because he was working 220 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: all the time. 221 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: His schedule was stacked against him. Adam loves nothing more 222 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: like I had to go away for work for eight nights, 223 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: which was the longest I've ever done from Albi and Vera, 224 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: and like, no judgment for anyone that's done way longer 225 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: than that, way younger. I think it's such a personal thing. 226 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: But for some reason that wasn't sitting right with me, 227 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: and Adam was like, get the fuck out of here. 228 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: They don't want me when you're around. I want my shot. 229 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: I want Vera to like be able to like only 230 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: depend on me, because if you're around, she wants you. 231 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: This is a gift to me. So can you please 232 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: go and not keep so concerned about your own feelings here? 233 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: I want to hear the kids, and I'm like, and 234 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: not that he doesn't when I'm here, it's just the 235 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: odds are stacked against him. My daughter just really wants me, 236 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: and that's that right now, totally. So you having to 237 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: really be home with Elliott was patch a chance to 238 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: really bond in a different way with Aurora, which makes 239 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: perfect sense. 240 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: It was so good. 241 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: Do you remember bringing Elliott home to meet Aurora? 242 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: God, I don't remember it, but because I have videos 243 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: of it, I have since formed a video memory name. 244 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: I don't have my own memory of it. Yeah, yeah, 245 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: I remember we brought her in. We still did the 246 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: thing with the dogs where it was like we brought 247 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: the dogs out. We brought them something to smell of Elliot's, 248 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: which really wasn't that hard considering Elliott was all over 249 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: all of our clothes in our car cars. Just come 250 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: out here, I think. Actually we brought Aurora to the 251 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 2: front door to meet Elliott. We really wanted her to 252 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 2: see her and welcome her and be a part of 253 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: bringing her in the house. 254 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: In the house nic yeah, nice. Is she like into 255 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: it being a big sister or does she fucking hate it? 256 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: Did she hate it? 257 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 2: First? 258 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: Has she changed? 259 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: She's such a good big sister, It's crazy. I mean, 260 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 2: you know, she's had moments which are like so amazing, 261 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: you know, like you could put them in like a 262 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: children's book where she'll like sit down and she's like this, Mama, 263 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: it's really hard sometimes to have a little sister, you 264 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: know what I mean. And I'm like, yeah, man, I 265 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 2: get you. But it's never a like she never wanted 266 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: to kill her, she never wanted to drown her. 267 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Or like as good there, 268 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: that's real, that's real. 269 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: It's so real. 270 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: You know. 271 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: I know so many, so many friends whose kids have 272 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: been like can you take the baby back? Like I 273 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: don't like this, you know, And she just was always 274 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: really into the baby being here. And now even when 275 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: Elliott's like, Elliot's such a total beast mode kind of girl. 276 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: You know, she's just like a big old brute. And Aurora, 277 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: I love her. It's so good. 278 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 4: She's like a little tang and and Aurora really like 279 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 4: empathizes with her, you know, like did she she gets 280 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 4: frustrated with her, but she will often when Elliott can't 281 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 4: express something because she's like a little bit later to 282 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 4: communication than Aurora was. 283 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: So are my too? 284 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: Oh really? 285 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god? Have that been a shock of like 286 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: your first was? I took so for granted, Like I 287 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: never talked to Albi like a baby ever. He was 288 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: so verbal. So early on with Aurora has had to 289 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: be in massive speech classes. I don't understand what she's saying. 290 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: She was delayed X, Y and Z, and then the 291 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: person I took her to these speech classes and this 292 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: therapist was like, well are you doing like twinkle twinkle 293 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: and say bye? Bye and say hello. And I was 294 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: like no, and she was like, yeah, this kid like 295 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: needs you to like do baby like imitation stuff because 296 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: like imitation is the basis of language. And she's oh interesting, 297 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh fucking shit, I have to 298 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: do what. 299 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 300 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: And then similarly, just how you already can't compare two 301 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: different people, but you know, Albie's really really smeasures really small. 302 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: You know, he's like the lowest percentage of height and weight, 303 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: and he's the older but he's going to be thirteen 304 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: and Viera's going to be ten and she's going to 305 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: be towering over him. Oh wow, she's really really tall. Yeah. 306 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: Are you having experiences like that too? Where the two 307 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: girls are so vastly different. 308 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: They're so vastly different, but they're like, they're both really tall, 309 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: they both of our kids. Like everybody who sees them 310 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: thinks they're at least two years older than they are. 311 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: They do have very different body types. Elliot's just like, 312 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: first of all, she looks exactly like Patrick. 313 00:16:55,320 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's Bonanma, just like Troyan and you birthed Patrick. 314 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then there's this little like bird girl is Aurora. 315 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: It's really cool because the way that they move through 316 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: the world. It's almost like they help each other in 317 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: a funny way. So far, it's been working really well 318 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 2: Aurora because she's so tall, like she'll get things for Elliott. 319 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 2: Elliot's like, really, she's a little bit slower to communicate 320 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 2: and Aurora's If she says something and I misunderstand, Aurora's 321 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: like right there with being like she wants this, that's 322 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 2: what she's saying, and I was like, oh my god, 323 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: thank you. 324 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: Oh same. It's been the greatest gift because when we 325 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: leave them with a babysitter or or she goes to 326 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: a school class or something and Albe's there, I always 327 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: tell the teacher. I'm like, if you can't understand Vera 328 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: or what she needs or wants to, just ask Albi 329 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: and he'll tell you. Because Alby is the only person 330 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: that understands her whole language. 331 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 2: That's so sweet. 332 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: It's so sweet speaking about language, which is something I 333 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: really wanted to talk to you about and we've never 334 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: talked about. On Katie's crib. Aurora is at a language 335 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: immersion school, and I want to know how you chose that, 336 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: why you chose that, why that's a value to you. 337 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: I think it's so fascinating. I wish I had done it. 338 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: Can you explain that to our listeners? 339 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: Because I didn't grow up in any sort of a 340 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 2: bilingual household. When I came to language my brain, it 341 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: was so hard for me. And I noticed that in 342 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 2: so many people that I meet in the world, if 343 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 2: they didn't learn a language really really young. It doesn't 344 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 2: matter what language, but there's just like a neuroplasticity that's 345 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 2: like calcified, and it's really hard to move through that. 346 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: Yep, yep, agreed. 347 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: I think there's also just like a real not to 348 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 2: get political, but like a real rejection of like America 349 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 2: first feeling, because I like the idea that she goes 350 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: to a school and somebody speaks to her in a 351 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: different language and it's not a like, Ooh, your other 352 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: that's weird. It's okay. I to try to work to 353 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 2: understand you and learn what you're saying so that we 354 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 2: can communicate, and that's how I can move through the world. 355 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: So I want her to have that so that when 356 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: she goes to other places in the world, it's not 357 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 2: a like, God, why don't they speak English. I'm hoping 358 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 2: that she'll be like, Okay, that's the language I need 359 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: to speak to get around here. What can I do 360 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: to learn the base words? What can I do to 361 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 2: even just learn? I'm sorry, I only speak English. Can 362 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 2: you help me? 363 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: That is the coolest thing ever. I was so excited 364 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: to talk to you today because I was thinking about it. 365 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: My amazing Miriam, who has been my nanny since my 366 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: kids were eight weeks old, or my son it was 367 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: for five and a half years, like, she only speaks 368 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: to them in Spanish, and the best, Oh my god. 369 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: But what's weird is my children understand every single thing. 370 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: My son is five and a half, she only speaks 371 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: to him in Spanish. He understands every single thing she 372 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: says and responds to her in English and does not 373 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: speak Spanish. But then one of my closest friends in 374 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: a similar boat, their nanny also only spoke to their 375 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: son in Spanish, and what was so cool was that 376 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: she immediately put him in Spanish classes. He's in a 377 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: he's in a basement of a church in Spanish class 378 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: on Saturdays for about five hours on a Saturday. And 379 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: she lets him watch television but only in Spanish, so 380 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: he only watches TV in Spanish every single day, and 381 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: the kid won't speak Spanish to his parents, but when 382 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: she picks him up from the church basement on Saturdays, 383 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 1: the teachers come out and they say he's unbelievable. His 384 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: pronunciation is unbelievable, and he's completely fluent. So did I 385 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: miss the boat? Like am I supposed right now? Yea half? 386 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: I feel like we're done. Send him to college. I 387 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: fucked up failure. He's a fucking American that only knows English, 388 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: like a fucking dumb dumb ass parents. 389 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 2: No, oh no, I think the only thing that matters 390 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 2: is the practicing of it. My mom constantly tells me. 391 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 2: She's like, you know, you were fluent in Portuguese when 392 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: we were little because we had like a Portuguese nanny, 393 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 2: And I was like, what right? But I think it's 394 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: just about practicing, you know, like whatever you're immersed in, 395 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: And so if I'll be speaking of Miriam in Spanish, 396 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 2: it's just going to be about giving him opportunities to 397 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: continue that. Dude, You're fine. 398 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: The minute this podcast ep is over, as I'm texting 399 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: my friend Becky and I'm gonna be like, where is 400 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: Miles taking Spanish? I wish that is just such a gift. 401 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: I wish I was somebody who was bilingual, or maybe 402 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: maybe it would be cool if she had two parents 403 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 2: who once spoke Spanish primarily and like one spoke English primarily. 404 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 2: I just want to do this for her and see 405 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: if it can maybe help her brain development in a 406 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: different way. 407 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: So what's the spattering of Aurora, Like, what's the spattering 408 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: of stuff? Are you trying a bunch of different stuff 409 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: to see what she's into? Is it like a dance 410 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: and an art and a sport. 411 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 2: That's another really cool thing that she gets to do 412 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: at school is like try a bunch of different extracurricular things. 413 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 2: And so it's just like we're like, you want to 414 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 2: be in soccer, You're in soccer. You want to be 415 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 2: in gymnastics, You're also in gymnastics. And I take her 416 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: to dance class. And then the cool thing for me 417 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: is particularly the classes that I get to go to 418 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 2: her with that like aren't just at school. I just 419 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: go and I really never force her to participate. Aurora 420 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: gets really shot. She's like a very observant. She needs 421 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: to get a lay of the land before she jumps 422 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: into something. And so I've been in a lot of 423 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 2: classes where I've taken her and we spent the whole 424 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: class with her just sitting in my lap watching, and 425 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, well that's her experience of the class 426 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: because she didn't feel up to jumping in there, and 427 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 2: I'm not going to push her. But she's she's a 428 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: really physical person once she gets engaged, and so I 429 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: think we just want to like feed that as much 430 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: as possible and really give her an opportunity to figure 431 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: out what she likes. 432 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: I think that's awesome. I'm asking because I'm like, I 433 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: don't sign up Albi for much things. I was hoping 434 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: to sort of take his lead on what to sign 435 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: him up for, and that hasn't really been happening. So 436 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: I might have to take it upon myself to try 437 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: a karate or anaaic or speaking of, how do you 438 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: and Patrick Adams feel about signing her up for like 439 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: a Tiny Spotlight like acting thing, because my god, I 440 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: don't know what to do. 441 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: Is Albi like into it? 442 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm too scared to tell all 443 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: my friends their kids are in like Tiny Spotlight or 444 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: like baby dramatics and they're doing like Frozen or trolls, movie, 445 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 1: the play, and they're all getting up and doing all 446 00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: this stuff. And I don't know some actor parents friends 447 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: I have, and you two are the only few people 448 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: who are like both people are actors in the relationship. 449 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: The same with me and Adam. And I've just been like, Nope, no, nope, 450 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: he's not signing up, Nope, not playing an acting, not 451 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: doing it. And then I am like, but come on, 452 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: acting teachers confidence and getting up in front of a 453 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: group of people, and he won't catch the bug, will 454 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: be okay, he's not going to be an actor. And 455 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: then I'm like, no, have you and Patrick had any 456 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: thoughts on this? Lord? 457 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 2: We have not. But but I think to me what 458 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 2: it comes from is like there's so many different things, right. 459 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: I remember being a kid and wanting to play storytime, right, 460 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 2: and like wanting to be the princess, wanting to put 461 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: on a performance for my parents or whatever, like stressed 462 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 2: out and make a play. But by the time I'm 463 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 2: thinking about, like, you know, middle school, when I was 464 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 2: like making little films with my friends, like I did 465 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 2: really want to be an actor and knew that I 466 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: wanted to do that. I don't know, I feel like 467 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 2: there's a difference between like theater and the acting programs, 468 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, I guess I want 469 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: them to understand. I want my kids to understand what 470 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 2: it is that we do before they decide I want 471 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: to be in a you know, a tiny spotlight class 472 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: or something. 473 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, I see what you're saying. I see what 474 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: you're saying. 475 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: Because right now I think we're just really fortunate and 476 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: that we've we've had so many experiences of being like, 477 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 2: look who's on the screen, and you know, they're both like, 478 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 2: that's Papa, you know what I mean, and they just 479 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: have a shit but totally really cool. When we got 480 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: to go visit Patrick in New York when he was 481 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: on Broadway, to get the kids up on the stage 482 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 2: and to try to explain to them, this is what 483 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: the work that papa's working on right now. And people 484 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 2: come in and they sit in these chairs and then 485 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: Papa stands up here and he tells a story and 486 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: the lights go down. Wow, we're a little bit under 487 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: trying to explain that to them. There's something they. 488 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: Get that yet they're not there yet. 489 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: I'm sure Albe is probably I'm terrified. 490 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: Well, he's such a performer in our house and I'm like, ooh, Lord, 491 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: have mercy, Like I don't know, I don't know, but 492 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm like you, like, I wanted to be an actor 493 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: from the time I was little. I was always performing. 494 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,479 Speaker 1: But I was already in dance classes by three. I 495 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: was already like, you know, the school play. By five 496 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: years old. I had the bug. Yeah, and I just 497 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: loved it. I was in like an acting class by 498 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: the time I was like eight or nine. 499 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: But that was from you. 500 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: Yes, it was totally from me. 501 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 2: They're going to be exposed to it. That's why I'm 502 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: a little bit like, obviously, no shame on people who 503 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: want to put their kids in some sort of extracurricular 504 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 2: you know, activity, that's like a little spoil later saying 505 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: to me, if they experience it and they're like, that's 506 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,719 Speaker 2: what I want to do, then I'm like, Okay, well, 507 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: I guess I got to go on this right now 508 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 2: and see what that came out. 509 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: Try and if we come back on this podcast in 510 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: twenty years and our kids are like all actors, I'm 511 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: just going to be like, oh my god, like what 512 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: is happening? Question? Why does Patrick? Which I love and 513 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to ask you this. He goes by 514 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: papa and not daddy. 515 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: I think we just we both decided that we didn't like, 516 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: we really didn't like mommy and daddy, and so I 517 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 2: think we both agreed when they were born that we 518 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: were like, you know, you're you're the ones who are 519 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: calling each other mommy, like mommy and daddy or MoMA 520 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: and papa before. And so we just really liked mama 521 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 2: and papa before. And it's so funny because when Weora 522 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: first came home from school, she started because they would 523 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: talk to her about like your daddy at home or 524 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: your mommy at home. And so I remember the first 525 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 2: time she came home from school and she was like 526 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 2: mommy and I was like what and she was like 527 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: mommy and I was like uh uh no, no, no, no, no, 528 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 2: what do we? 529 00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: What do we? 530 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 2: Who are you calling? Who are you calling? A mama? 531 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: And then and then she was really funny because then 532 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: she started funny, having fun with it. She was like 533 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 2: momy and I was like, oh man. 534 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: So funny. That's hilarious. I always wondered that because when 535 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: they come over for a plate and they're like papa, 536 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, because my dad is papa. 537 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: My grandgrandparent. 538 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: In Pranta's grandpa, he's papa, And so I was like, oh, 539 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: I wonder if that Patrick and Troyan consciously chose that, 540 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: which you did, and I love. 541 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: I think, just for both of us, like to be 542 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 2: completely honest without getting like too far into our psychees. 543 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 2: We both have very very traumatic relationships to the names 544 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: mommy and daddy. You know, whether it was like the 545 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: pressure to call dad daddy you know, from me, or 546 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: like or just whatever, whatever that relationship is, we just 547 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: didn't have it with our parents, and so it felt 548 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: false to put that onto our kids. That's where that 549 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: comes from. 550 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: How has it been with two kids going back to 551 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: work full course. 552 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 2: Well, it's been really interesting because for me, I think 553 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: just particularly because of the kinds of jobs that lined up, 554 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: I was really fortunate in that I didn't really ever 555 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 2: have to go back to work. I didn't really have 556 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: the chance to go back to work full time until recently. 557 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: And then you went back to work so full time, 558 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: I mean so full time zero to one hundred. Yeah, yeah, 559 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: I mean you had jobs, but I mean, like to 560 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: go from like it's not out there yet, but you know, 561 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: try and booked a very big job that had a 562 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: lot of responsibility attached, and I was just serious, like 563 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: how it's been feeling juggling that with two kids. 564 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: It's been hard. Thank God for our incredible nanny, Raina, 565 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: and and to be completely honest, like, while Patrick was away, 566 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: we met two other wonderful like part time nannies that 567 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: were looking for extra work. And so since Rena was 568 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: there with me during the day, I was kind of 569 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: like going just nights by myself. Patrick was kind of like, 570 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 2: I feel like you should ask for help on some nights, 571 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 2: just if some nights it's like too much to do by. 572 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: Yourself, totally. So I did the same thing when Adam 573 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: was in Budapest shooting, I did the same thing. 574 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we met too really wonderful part time nanni's 575 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 2: and they sort of like come in and help Patrick. 576 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: Because now it's really the reverse, right, It's like I 577 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: leave before the girls wake up, or I'm shooting nights 578 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 2: and I don't get to see them at all, and 579 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 2: I really just can't be relied upon for anything, whether 580 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: it's dropping her off at school or picking her up 581 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: or you know, having dinner ready, all of these things 582 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 2: that for the past five years, I've been really ondoing. 583 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: Has that been a huge adjustment for Aurora. 584 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: They will both have sort of emotional moments. Particularly. I 585 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: think the wonderful thing is the weekends. Weekends, I get 586 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: a lot of snuggles and there's a lot of excitement around, like, oh, 587 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: you're home, or you're home for dinner. Elliott even like recently, 588 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: she was so happy. It was Sunday or something, I 589 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 2: think it was Mother's Day and she turned to me 590 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 2: and she was like, Mama home and Papa home. Mama 591 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: home and Papa home. And I was like, yeah, like 592 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: we're both here, and it was it kind of broke 593 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: my heart in away because I was like, oh my god, 594 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: you're realizing that this is not like the norm, and 595 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: that's so heartbreaking to me. But one of the real 596 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: reasons that I took this job is because it's, in 597 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: terms of television, like a pretty short commitment. 598 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: Right, it's finite. So it's like, even if it kicks 599 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: your ass and you're so not present as a mother, 600 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: yeah for ten weeks. It's ten weeks. It's not like 601 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: ten years. It's not like a full year. There's a 602 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: finish line. 603 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 2: There's a finish line, and it's close enough to La 604 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 2: that I was coming home. I was spending every night 605 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: at home, so I was still making it home some 606 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 2: nights if I got you know, if I left early 607 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: enough for dinner and bedtime, or when I'm shooting nights, 608 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: I get to like pick up Aurora from school and 609 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: you know, spend some time with Elliott during the day. 610 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 2: So it's like, I'm really it was truly it is 611 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,719 Speaker 2: truly a dream job in that I get to do 612 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: what I want to do acting wise, and it's such 613 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 2: a great like commitment and responsibility. And then conversely, it's 614 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 2: close to home, so I'm here and I have weekends 615 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: and it's short. 616 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: Did you have any guidance, like like in preparing for it? 617 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: Do you have sit down conversations with Aurora where you're like, like, 618 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: mom booked a big you know, mom has a job 619 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to be around as much, Like 620 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: do you prepare for to yours? Do you find that 621 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: that brings up too much anxiety? It's better to just 622 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: like jump in and let her adjust. 623 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: No, No, we do a lot of preparation. I mean, 624 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: both kids, just like they both thrive on preparing for transitions. 625 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: They thrive on preparation. They hate fast transitions. And so 626 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 2: I was actually in Rye again, and I remembered as 627 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 2: I was talking about, like to Wendy, your class leader, 628 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 2: I was like, how do I do this? Blah blah 629 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: blah blah, and she was like, why don't you write 630 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 2: them a book? 631 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 632 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: Like and you can draw like stick figures. And I 633 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: remembered when I had to go away to shoot something 634 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 2: for the first time I was going to be away 635 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 2: from Aurora when I was pregnant with Elliott. I drew 636 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 2: her her own coloring book that was about the time 637 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 2: we were going to spend away and that she could 638 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: FaceTime me and hear the people who are there for 639 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 2: you and I'm thinking about you every day. And it 640 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: was really helpful to read that with her, probably for 641 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 2: my psyche, Yeah, just to like talk about it and 642 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 2: it not to be in a sort of like traumatic 643 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 2: like no, I need to be leaving. I'm like leaving 644 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 2: out the door. It's like I'm right here, we're in bed, 645 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 2: we're talking about it. It feels chill. And so that 646 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 2: was a big thing of like, well, I got to 647 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 2: go to work and I'm thinking about you always, and 648 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see you again. These are the 649 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 2: people if you ever need me, like you FaceTime me 650 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 2: and I'll let you know when I'm coming home. So 651 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 2: that's been really helpful for transitions. 652 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: I'd say, when do you feel like you're going to 653 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 1: decide yay or nay? As we wrap up here with this. 654 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 3: Oh my god, are you talking about the third Oh well, 655 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 3: the joke, yeah, The joke that I always say is 656 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 3: like they are so loved and they are exactly the 657 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 3: beings that we're meant to be here. 658 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: Because Aurora and Elliott chose to be here and Patrick 659 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 2: and Troy and are choosing for these beings to be here. 660 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 2: It was just like, wait, what's happening. We're being Okay, 661 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 2: we're being parents now. So I think that's really the 662 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 2: The stance that I take is like I've been fortunate 663 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 2: enough to not have to make a choice about when 664 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: I have kids. So we'll see if another one decides 665 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: to come in, we'll see. 666 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: We'll see if a spirit is circling the Belisario Adam's household. 667 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: We shall see if something is circling and will make 668 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: themselves known. In closing, do you remember I know Elliott 669 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: is two. Now, was there anything that you used from 670 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: your registry with either kid that you were like, this 671 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: is the most important thing I've gotten and have used endlessly. 672 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 1: When they were babies. 673 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 2: We were so into the snow. And I know that 674 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 2: that's like super controversial because I have since circulated because 675 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 2: we bought the snow and then like gifted it to 676 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 2: every single one of our friends. We were just like, 677 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 2: it around, it's the most expensive fucking thing, but like 678 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: legitimately nobody else respect they were just like, it didn't work, 679 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 2: they didn't like it, blah blah blah. And so we 680 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 2: were like, Okay, both of our kids loved it great. 681 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: I love it. 682 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved having this SNeW because it 683 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 2: was for me. It was really just a bassinette to 684 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 2: have them next. 685 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: To me that can kind of rock them, that can 686 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: rock them. 687 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they love that motion. And both my girls 688 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 2: really dug it. So that's that's what I would say. 689 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think if there was anything else. 690 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: This snow's amazing. Harve doctor Harvey Karp, who invented this 691 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 1: new has been on Katie's Crib season one. He's amazing. 692 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: But also this new if it is out of your 693 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: price range because it is expensive. I believe they even 694 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: have programs now that you can rent them. 695 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 2: Amazing. 696 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you can even rent them. Or I 697 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: know people who've gone in on it with other families, 698 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: Like you're doing January, I'm doing April, you're doing whatever. 699 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: Let's all chip in, split it three ways and pass 700 00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,959 Speaker 1: it between the three family. 701 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 2: I think that's a great idea because the window of 702 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 2: using it is pretty small. You know, Yes, it's so 703 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 2: wonderful during that window, especially when you need all the 704 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 2: sleep you can get. But I think that's a great 705 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 2: idea to like chip in with other families or to 706 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 2: rent because like you know, like we were not when 707 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 2: we were done with it, we were like, Okay, I 708 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 2: guess it's passing it along. 709 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: And my next question is finish this sentence. I'm not 710 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: sure if you answered it. Well your either episode one 711 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: or two, Parenthood is. 712 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so stupid. I was just gonna no, 713 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 2: it's so embarrassing. I was just thinking, like the best 714 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 2: I was just. 715 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 5: I love that no one says that, and you should 716 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 5: let it be celebrated, like I think that Katie's crib 717 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 5: people come to cry and not feel alone and hear 718 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 5: scary things, but then they also hear that like it 719 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 5: also is good guys. 720 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: Troy and Belle Sario says parenthood is the best. Taking 721 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: it from her, if your baby in a fucking car, because. 722 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 2: I really was thinking, like, it's so hard, it's so complicated, 723 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 2: it's so trying. It's basically what makes you want to 724 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 2: pass out at night. It changes your whole life and 725 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 2: changes your whole marriage, and not always in a good way. 726 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, there's this creature 727 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 2: in the world that you are, Like, Wow, I get 728 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 2: to know you. I know you so well. I'm just 729 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 2: so grateful that I get to have that relationship with 730 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 2: two human beings. It's the coolest Tryan. 731 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful that you have done three episodes of 732 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: Katie's Crib and that it is going amazingly. You're killing it. 733 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,919 Speaker 1: Your children are gorgeous, your family of four is phenomenal, 734 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: and I love you so yours for coming back on 735 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: Katie's Crib. 736 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 2: I can't wait for us to get together in real 737 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 2: life and celebrate again. Thank you so much for asking 738 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 2: me back. It's always always a pleasure. 739 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening to today's episode. 740 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: I want to hear from you. Let's chat questions, comments, concerns. 741 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: Let me know. You can always find me at Katiescrib 742 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: at shondaland dot com. 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