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Speaker 2: Look at us now. Tip to Tim. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: It's the fourth of September twenty twenty one, and we're

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Speaker 3: back like a bad habit. Hello everyone, my name is

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Speaker 3: Luke Thomas. This is Morning Combat. I am one half

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Speaker 3: of your hosting duo from CBS Sports and Showtime. In

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Speaker 3: by the gentleman. I don't I think he has a

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Speaker 3: betch Kohea shirt on. I could be wrong about that.

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Speaker 3: I think that's right on the other side of the screen. Yes,

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Speaker 3: there it is the King of Connecticut Royalty himself. It

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Speaker 3: is Brian Campbell, Brian, Top of the Morning to you.

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Speaker 3: How was your weekend?

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Luke. I try to bring that same energy.

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Speaker 2: You bet you fantastic weekend, Luke, I was telling you

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Speaker 2: off camera, saw a local comedy show, saw one man

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Speaker 2: die on the actually all just goalked at his remaining

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Speaker 2: carcass in front of the microphone, and then saw this

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Speaker 2: fellow named Tom Cotter come in and just slay bro.

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Speaker 2: I mean just Sleigh. I mean, you know, get this

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Speaker 2: guy a showtime special please, so good shit, Luke fun weekend,

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Speaker 2: enjoyed the fights. You know, you may get on me

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Speaker 2: for bringing out my French rape voice on Fridays, but

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Speaker 2: you definitely started with that substitute for first grade teacher

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Speaker 3: Before we start, Are the kids do they massacre your

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Speaker 1: Is it. What's it like over there.

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Speaker 2: I've got a decent neighborhood of families, so yeah, it's fine,

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Speaker 2: it's not too crazy, it's not dead, it's whatever.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you get a lot of homeless folk walk

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Speaker 1: We don't get the homeless folk, but we do get

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Speaker 2: But okay, dark Luke, just turn that shit off, all right?

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Speaker 3: You know, I had a neighbor who would turn his

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Speaker 3: If we can topic number one here on a Monday,

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Speaker 3: we start with the UFC. Now, UFC had a light

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Speaker 3: heavyweight main event between Brazilians Johnny Walker and Thiago Santos

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Speaker 3: Thiago Santos ultimately gets the decision nod and what can

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Speaker 3: It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't good. The question I

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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 2: I heard that this fight sucked. I kind of enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: Only you wise soul was like, hey, maybe this might

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Speaker 2: go the distance somehow you saw the future, and it did. Luke,

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Speaker 2: I did have Maheta winning three rounds to two. I

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Speaker 3: I guess I'm more looking for explanation of like, did

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Speaker 3: you think he did the more impactful striking, and I

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Speaker 2: I thought he looked good. Look he needed this win.

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Speaker 2: remind us whether he's elite? Well, look, neither guy looks sensational.

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Speaker 2: But I liked the fight for what it was, even

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Speaker 2: liked the fight to look, it's rare, Luke, It's rare

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Speaker 2: It became a tactical fight, not with a Curtill level,

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Speaker 2: I thought both fighters fought responsibly, their defense was strong,

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Speaker 2: I thought his volume pulled the fights closer, and then

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Speaker 2: his harder strikes overall really cemented it, including that big

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Speaker 2: You saw the celebration from him, Luke. It was unsure.

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Speaker 2: It was a weird fight. It was two guys that

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Speaker 2: I didn't have any trouble saying that Santos won this fight.

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Speaker 2: That considering the circumstances. He did what he had to

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Speaker 2: sometimes Luke is the way you have to win the fights.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think your analysis is right on point. I

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Speaker 3: don't really disagree with any of that. He needed this fight,

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Speaker 3: So him being a little bit more prudent and him

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Speaker 3: that end, and to your point, he was also the

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Speaker 3: one that landed the harder shots in the end, including

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Speaker 3: But the body kicks he landed early to midway through

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Speaker 3: I really liked that from him. I like the patience

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Speaker 3: right because he can also get out in front of

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Speaker 3: his skis sometimes trying to chase things down, and he didn't.

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Speaker 1: Do that this time.

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Speaker 3: He really had a kind of a measured performance that

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Speaker 3: I thought was just what the doctor ordered, A given

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Speaker 1: He was riding into this fight. Go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Look, I thought he was willing to fight at a

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Speaker 2: more hectic pace and it was almost welcoming it at times.

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Speaker 2: But I think it was Walker who would taste Mahetza's

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Speaker 2: Dean Thomas came on the air as the resident, you know,

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Speaker 2: that was an interesting way to look at it. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: we're talking about Johnny Walker in a new camp with

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Speaker 2: SBG Ireland and going through a lot of changes to

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Speaker 2: volume and Ben Moore demonstrative had Walker been willing to

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Speaker 2: enter into that fight. And let's just do a reminder.

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Speaker 2: Johnny Walker went on Aerial Show and said, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to bleed. I'm ready to go to hell

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Speaker 2: with this guy. I don't know if he was as

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Speaker 2: ready once he tasted that power because, as you know, Luke,

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Speaker 2: everything Thiago throws is hard.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's knocking people down, knocking up women. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he is this guy this I mean, this guy's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: He is amazing. So you're right about this.

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Speaker 3: Really, the story about this comes down to not so

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Speaker 3: much what Tiago did, although what we can observe was good,

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Speaker 3: But it's really a big question about Johnny Walker here, Dude,

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Speaker 3: I really don't understand this performance, and I gotta tell

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Speaker 3: you I did not. And when I say this, listen

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Speaker 3: to the words I'm saying I don't understand because there's

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Speaker 3: me saying, oh, I understand this more completely, and now

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Speaker 3: let me make a more firm judgment about it. Because

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Speaker 3: I am lacking evidence. I don't know exactly what to say.

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Speaker 3: Except when he was getting corner advice between rounds, it

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Speaker 3: looked like Johnny Walker was doing everything as coaches told

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Speaker 3: Sometimes Attasnya wins bouts in close contest where the one

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Speaker 1: What mattered?

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Speaker 2: So look, you know, before I even had a chance

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Speaker 2: of you know, SBG NEUTERD, one of our favorite, you know,

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Speaker 2: sometimes moments where you don't see that type of strike coming.

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Speaker 2: But Luke, as we all know, the higher you climb

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Speaker 2: figure out how to be great. It's just that this

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Speaker 2: more like, go out there and be a point fighter.

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Speaker 2: You got this, You're doing great. No you're not. You're

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Speaker 2: Luke where I'm like, this was a horrible idea. What

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Speaker 2: it into a five round tactical fight. While I didn't

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Speaker 2: that Johnny Walker didn't have it all together yet, I

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Speaker 2: think this is the road, Luke, that he has to

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Speaker 2: could tell me I'm crazy, but if he stays down

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Speaker 2: the road of being carnival circus slugger, okay, is he

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Speaker 2: gonna beat some dudes? Yeah? Is there a chance he

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Speaker 2: could one day fight for a title? Maybe? But I

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Speaker 2: the right kind of coaches. Are these coaches the perfect fit?

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Speaker 2: coaches to say, look, you know, we got to add

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a head scratcher of Luke, I

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Speaker 2: thought his confidence is his confidence in some aspects of it,

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Speaker 2: We've never seen that in Johnny Walker before. So why

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Speaker 2: I say it? What's the wrong opponent to do it?

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Speaker 2: Because you're fighting a guy where if he had beaten

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Speaker 2: Thiago Santos here, I mean, you make a leap right

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Speaker 2: the mindset that Johnny Walker brought out on so night

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was clear that were trending wheel.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, Once you transition to a new style like that,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna be a lot more hesitant to throw because

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Speaker 3: you don't know what will work. You don't know what

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Speaker 1: He is powerful. You make a mistake against him and

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Speaker 1: it will cost you quite dearly. I understand that.

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Speaker 3: So I'm sympathetic to the argument because if we see

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Speaker 3: He doesn't have the offense, and so let's see where

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Speaker 2: But that's a great way to put it, Luke, And

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say that with that fainting style, if

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Speaker 2: of that fainting is to corner them, disarm them, and

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Speaker 2: put them in a spot where they're gonna make a

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Speaker 2: can't do that against my Heetack because he's he throw

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Speaker 2: he'll throw out spinning shit, or he'll kick you in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's not about argument to make.

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Speaker 3: The only problem that I have with the cornering is

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Speaker 3: We need to see that, like, you can't just do

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Speaker 3: And the second part is it didn't really It just

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Speaker 3: who's to say, But like, it just there was nothing

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Speaker 3: no dynamism to it. It was let's just see if

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Speaker 3: If they're gonna do this style right away, there needs

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Speaker 3: their hands come up, you know, kick the other outside

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Speaker 1: It just seemed like it was way way way to

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Speaker 2: I mean like a process he stuck to Johnny Walker

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Speaker 2: You wonder if there could have been an opening there

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Speaker 2: But you know, back to Dean Thomas's point, there's that

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Speaker 2: there's a lot that Look, this is a tall drink

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Speaker 2: you can't keep going down this road, particularly of quote

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Speaker 2: unquote neutering him and taking away what makes him great.

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Speaker 2: But if you can help him build his setups better,

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Speaker 2: help him not over extend, help train his mind to

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Speaker 2: you've got a hell of a future title contending fighter

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Speaker 2: right here. I don't think he's that far away, though, Luke,

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Speaker 2: am I crazy? I think, yeah, this is a bad

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Speaker 2: lesson here. But I think he showed me enough where Dude,

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Speaker 2: he could have broke script so many times and went

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Speaker 2: you can argue that may have been the best chance

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Speaker 3: I will only grant we can It doesn't even matter

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Speaker 3: Because if he gets changed to this and he can

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Speaker 3: then what good is it? It doesn't do him any

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Speaker 3: good to change to a style where okay, you are

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Speaker 1: Save your brain a little.

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Speaker 3: That's fine, I suppose, but you're not really getting any

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Speaker 3: just to talk of the light heavyweight division BC. Obviously

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Speaker 3: That leaves Prahatschka, Rakich Smith and Santos. Now Smith said

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Speaker 3: he wanted rackets. Rackets said okay, and now Santos I

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Speaker 3: Winner of that gets the title shot.

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Speaker 2: No, it's that's one way, Luke. That's not horrible. I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: what Tiago has in his favor obviously, is the fact

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Speaker 2: same treatment for Rose this time when we thought maybe

434
00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 2: she would have deserved it. But he's not there yet,

435
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,159
Speaker 2: meaning Maheta, he just snapped a three fight win skid.

436
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 2: Uh three fight losing skid. Excuse me, he's going to

437
00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,080
Speaker 2: need at least one more big win. Your scenario is

438
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,200
Speaker 2: not awful. I mean, Luke, shouldn't we want to see

439
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,480
Speaker 2: though Prohatska in wreckage right now to decide That's basically

440
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,640
Speaker 2: what you're saying, right those guys next to decide who's

441
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:53,480
Speaker 2: the next title challenger?

442
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, in an ideal world, yes.

443
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what. I tend to agree with you,

444
00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,639
Speaker 2: all things considered on that. I don't know if I

445
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,919
Speaker 2: need the Anthony Smith rematch though, Luke, didn't we learn

446
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 2: everything we needed to learn.

447
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,159
Speaker 1: From the first one, not necessarily.

448
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,399
Speaker 3: I think these guys are again once again, you just

449
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,960
Speaker 3: cannot imagine a world where Anthony Smith is better than

450
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,880
Speaker 3: your lowest expectation of him. I tend to think that's

451
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 3: a different fight this time. I tend to think it's

452
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:16,400
Speaker 3: a very different fight.

453
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 2: All right. Let me ask you this, will Will maheta

454
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,439
Speaker 2: fight for the UFC light heavyweight title again in his career? No, okay,

455
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 2: Will Johnny Walker?

456
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 1: That's a tougher one. Probably not, but I can't say

457
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:34,880
Speaker 1: for sure.

458
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 2: And could you see Johnny Walker, given the frame and

459
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 2: how muscular he is, having speed advantages at heavyweight down

460
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 2: the road?

461
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 3: Thought about that too. He's a He's about the biggest

462
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 3: you want to be for light heavyweight. I would not

463
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 3: imagine anyone wanted to be a whole lot bigger than that,

464
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 3: because they did look to me like Santos had a

465
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 3: little bit of an explosion advantage on him even with

466
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 3: all of those knee surgeries. If someone has, you know,

467
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 3: multiple reconstructions and they're still like whipping shots at you

468
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 3: quicker than you can get to them, there might be

469
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 3: a question of like whether or not this is the

470
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 3: ultimate division for you. I just wonder in terms of strength,

471
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 3: like he's well muscled, but like, how does that translate

472
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 3: into the core wrestling and control positions? Don't I don't

473
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 3: know the answer to that, so we get a better

474
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 3: sense of that, But you know, it is a future

475
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 3: at heavyweight possible. I think, so it's possible.

476
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 2: I have I had the crystal ball out the other

477
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 2: night looking ahead to the future at two o five, Luke,

478
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 2: And just to you know anyone wondering, both of these

479
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,199
Speaker 2: guys and Saturday night's main event will fight for the

480
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 2: light heavyweight title in the future only from ahead. Ted'll

481
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 2: come against Prohatska. That should be wild, Luke, Okay.

482
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 3: Interesting, that would be very, very fun. I guess we'll

483
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 3: have to see in either case. All right, we go

484
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 3: to point number two here be see. Not a whole

485
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 3: lot to say about this one, except it was just weird,

486
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 3: like everything Kevin Holland does.

487
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 1: So this was what the main event co main event

488
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 1: for the night.

489
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 3: Kevin Holland in a middleweight class takes on Kyle Dawkas.

490
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Speaker 1: OKABC. This this is what killed me about the fight.

491
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 3: It was exactly what we thought it was going to

492
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 3: be up until it wasn't, which is you had Dawcas

493
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 3: going right for the takedown because you knew Kevin Holland

494
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 3: had that weakness, and Kevin Holland kind of showing much

495
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 3: improved takedown defense at least along the fence line. He

496
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 3: get caught, he got caught in a cowcatcher, which is

497
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 3: sort of this sort of like you know, Nelson type

498
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 3: hold along the fence line. He was talking to DC

499
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 3: and he was being really annoying that way and not

500
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 3: really concentrating on the job at hand, but when he

501
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 3: had to, he was showing much improved takedown defense. They separate,

502
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 3: there's a clash of heads, he gets knocked out, wakes up,

503
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 3: but eventually he gets choked out about a minute or

504
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 3: so later, maybe even less than that. Okay, BC, they

505
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 3: called it a no contest. Do you agree with that ruling?

506
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Dan Murgliata and I don't you know, I mean,

507
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 2: you can only crap on a referee for so much, Luke,

508
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 2: because they got to make split second decisions, and I

509
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 2: totally respect that, But he made the wrong call in

510
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 2: the moment because he allowed this fight to play keep

511
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 2: playing out and Dakas had a clear advance given that

512
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: that's a vicious head budd and Holland took the worst

513
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: end of it. He was knocked out briefly, which, if

514
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: you really think about it, should have just ended the fight.

515
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 2: At the very least, Dan should have stopped the fight

516
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 2: after the head clash. I know it was Holland's ability

517
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 2: to bounce back from the flash knockdown and defend himself

518
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 2: that gave Dan confidence that he was maybe okay. But Luke, obviously,

519
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 2: I think everybody watching it home was like, man, you

520
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 2: should have just stopped the fight, given Holland five minutes

521
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: to recover. I mean, Luke, you know they could have

522
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: stopped the fight for a time out. Looked at the replay,

523
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 2: saw that Holland's eyes roll back and he was kind

524
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 2: of out, and stopped it there with a no decision.

525
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 2: We would have been probably upset, but at the very

526
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 2: least of your Kevin Holland, I think you deserved because

527
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: of how vicious that was for the action to be halted.

528
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 2: Take a look at him. Five minutes to recover, nobody's fault.

529
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 2: Can you continue? And had he been able to and

530
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 2: I would assume he would, Luke, because he's a he's

531
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 2: a trooper, this guy, then you go on with the fight,

532
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: just like if it was a low blow or something

533
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: like that. I thought, you know, Dan was wrong and

534
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 2: then seeing herb Dean afterwards put his arm around him,

535
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: and you know, I talk. I mean, it's almost like,

536
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: you know, if you're the UFC. You don't want the

537
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: cameras that close. Luca Mark Ratner had that look like,

538
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,239
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys should be listening in

539
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 2: on this. I mean, it wasn't a great look altogether.

540
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: I understand referees are not UFC employees. They are you know,

541
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: appointed by the State Commission and all that, but UFC

542
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: does have complete control of the broadcast. I loved being

543
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: that little little voyeur in there, Luke, but it's unfortunate.

544
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 2: The good news is that Holland doesn't take an l

545
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 2: and that we can run this back because it was

546
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 2: an important fight because both were coming off of losing skids,

547
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 2: and I think, particularly Holland still has a bright ceiling.

548
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: And I thought this time around Luke his his overly

549
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 2: charismatic ways talking to d C during the broadcast. I

550
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: felt in the past it got in the way of

551
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: what he was trying to do, meaning we rightfully clowned

552
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: him during his past losses, saying look, dude, you're down

553
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 2: on the scorecards and you're hamming it up, like what

554
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 2: the hell are you doing. I think this time around

555
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 2: he did it in a way that was firing him

556
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: up right. He could hear d C talking about how

557
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,239
Speaker 2: he's stuffing takedowns, and I think it was it was

558
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: you know, I was entertained by it under that look,

559
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 2: it's a it's a it's an interesting road to go

560
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 2: down as as a performer, as an artiste. But I

561
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 2: thought Kevin Holland was gonna have a chance to really

562
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: show us what he worked on, and I thought, unfortunately,

563
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 2: Uhrigli Dan Marigliata. I mean, this wasn't quite a a

564
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 2: moment of uh, who are those two referees that Dana

565
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: hates the most, Luke, Steve Masagatti Masagatti and then and

566
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: then this guy. He hates that guy too, right.

567
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: Oh Mario A. Masaki?

568
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it wasn't quite in their levels. But Luke,

569
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 2: I think this is a regrettable night, the way that

570
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: Dan handled it in the end. Well, how did you

571
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: feel that?

572
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 3: Here's what I felt about it, which is so I

573
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: read what Big John McCarthy had to say. He's usually

574
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 3: a really good source of wisdom on this one, and

575
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 3: this was no exception. He basically argued, if you think

576
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 3: about it rationally, what happened, you had the separation, then

577
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: Kyle Dalkas level changes and then comes up looking for

578
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 3: what appeared to be a takedown or some kind of

579
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: body shot, depending on what you want to say there

580
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 3: in the moment. And as he came up like that,

581
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 3: that was what it was. The head that unintentionally was

582
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 3: a no intentional hit Kevin Holland. And Holland like you

583
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 3: can see the eyes roll back, he just his face

584
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 3: glazes over and he goes face first.

585
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: He goes.

586
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 3: In a perfect scenario, the fight would have been stopped

587
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 3: there at least halted there. And as you indicated, doctors

588
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: come in check him out, see how he goes, if

589
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 3: he can keep going, if the doctor clears him by

590
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 3: all means to keep it going, and if not, it's

591
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 3: a no contest because Kevin Holland shouldn't have to fight

592
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 3: out of a deficit from an illegal strike. Again not

593
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 3: an advert and strike, but an illegal one just the same,

594
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: and a pretty impactful one at that. So in the end,

595
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 3: by having this team of referees and what you ever

596
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 3: else do these other members of the Athletic Commission, we're

597
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 3: all kind of looking at the instant replay. Here was

598
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 3: the big thing that I got one They got to

599
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 3: the right answer. It should have been no contest. I

600
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 3: feel bad for Kyle Dawkas, but I feel bad for

601
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: Kevin Holland. Run it back if you want. And in fact,

602
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: you see I started the question this way, dude, like

603
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 3: that fight was playing out exactly the way that it

604
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 3: was supposed to. Dawcas was getting to the body, but

605
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 3: he couldn't quite get the takedown. Would he have gotten

606
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 3: it if you had kept going? Or would he have

607
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: been knocked out because hollow wand have stopped it. We

608
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 3: don't know the answer to that, but we were getting

609
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: exactly what we were looking for.

610
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: So I really hope they'd run it back.

611
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: But dude, this was the lesson that I came to,

612
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 3: and I cannot believe more people aren't saying this. Of course,

613
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 3: of course, instant replay is the hero here, but more

614
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 3: than that, this is something I've been harping on for

615
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 3: about a year now or more almost two. Dude, one

616
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 3: referee cannot do that job well period.

617
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: On occasion.

618
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 3: You can get referees, even in difficult scenarios, who are

619
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: so locked on who right in that moment they can

620
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 3: make a great call. There is no good reason, especially

621
00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 3: in your bigger states Nevada, California, New Jersey, Right, we

622
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: have larger commissions. There is no reason why one referee

623
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 3: is tasked with that job. The only reason we ended

624
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: up getting a decent result is because A you have

625
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 3: instant replay, and B the instant replay guy in the

626
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: situation was HERB Dean. They were able to have a

627
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 3: meeting of the minds and some of the bad decision

628
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: making was able to be corrected. What more evidence do

629
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: you need out there, folks who are skeptical of this,

630
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 3: because when I first introduced this idea a while ago,

631
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 3: people are like, oh, we don't need that.

632
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: That's successive. No, it is not this.

633
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 3: The costs of getting it wrong are way too high

634
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 3: and it's not necessary two people.

635
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: Two people need to do that job.

636
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 3: Now, how you want to adjudicate that, BC, there's plenty

637
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,959
Speaker 3: of debate. Do you want two in the cage? Proba home,

638
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 3: let me finish two in the cage? Probably not one

639
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: on top.

640
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: I don't know that.

641
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 3: However, you want to arrange it, arrange it or maybe

642
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: keep it what it is. One refeeren in the cage,

643
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 3: one on the replay machine, and we figured it out

644
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 3: from there. But the idea that we can meaningfully handle

645
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 3: that load of fights every night with one referee doing

646
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 3: all of them.

647
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: It's simply not true. That's fair, it's fair. I was

648
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: gonna interrupt you to say, let's adjudicate the potential efficiency

649
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: of this. Luke. Wow, all right, that's like, can I

650
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: have the origin word please? Greek? Okay, uh Luke. What

651
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying is, would you like in let's use this scenario.

652
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: Brigliauta is your referee. Herb Dean is announced, so people

653
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: know he's your replay official. He has a microphone that

654
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: only Dan can hear, because we can get instant replays

655
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: instantly these days, if you know, as soon as Holland

656
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: gets hit with the head butt, because look, you never

657
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: know the angle of the referee in that moment. And

658
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: that's why I give them that respect. Because we're watching

659
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: it at home full on, zoomed in HD on our

660
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: big screen. There were the referees trying to move to see.

661
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: There's gonna be times they're not gonna see it. He

662
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: may not have seen Holland's eyes roll back, for example,

663
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: But Herb Dean, are you saying in the moment should

664
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: have the ability to talk into the earpiece of Dan

665
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: and say, oh, head butt, stop the action. Let's let's

666
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: figure this out and then we can go to the

667
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: you know, to to extended replay that. But like you've got,

668
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: I want it to be able to be stopped in

669
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,239
Speaker 2: an instant if the referee missed it.

670
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

671
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: I don't know what the right answer that is, because

672
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that it's wrong, but I think we'd

673
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: have to think about it for just a second, because

674
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: there can be all kinds of unintended consequences. Once you

675
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: make a policy, you don't make a policy for how

676
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 3: the best people in the space use it. You make

677
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 3: a policy for how the people who are worst in

678
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 3: the space point because that's the scenario you're going to

679
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: get to. What I've always thought was one, the guy

680
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: who's or the lady who's referring in the cage. When

681
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: they're in that cage, they should be the only one

682
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 3: in there. But in between rounds one, I think another

683
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 3: referee should be allowed to walk in there, and uh two,

684
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: I think they should be able to have some kind

685
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 3: of say that if they walk in there, the main

686
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: referee is obligated to look at instant replay evidence.

687
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: If they want to reject it.

688
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: At that point, they can reject it, but there has

689
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 3: to be some kind of compulsory mechanism to make them

690
00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: look at it because I cannot see you.

691
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm Many times.

692
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 3: We've seen a referee being like, hey, I looked at

693
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 3: it in real time. I didn't need a replay, motherfucker.

694
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 3: You needed a replay. Everyone needs a replay. No one

695
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: has this omni competence. Even for things you think you understand,

696
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 3: you may not instily interpret it the right way. That's

697
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 3: sort of the way I've been thinking of it. This

698
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 3: scenario is the closest thing we've seen to that. It

699
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 3: just seems like, on some level you have to ask yourself,

700
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: can one person, really, in the heat of battle get

701
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: all of these minute calls all the way right for

702
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 3: a sport this diverse. Maybe in boxing you could argue that.

703
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 3: In mma, I don't think you can argue that. When

704
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 3: you have wrestling combined with striking, combined with submissions, in

705
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: this wide open space with wild action, you need help

706
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: give them the help they need. In the states that

707
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 3: have demand power and the resources to afford it, which,

708
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: by the way, happen to be the places where more

709
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 3: meaningful mma action happens, but.

710
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: To your fears, Texas will fuck it up all they

711
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: will Texas forever Street. Would you is your fear that

712
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: the let's say it's Herb Deane work in the replay,

713
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: work in the television monitor, having communication access to the

714
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: referee in the moment. I mean, wouldn't that Let's say

715
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: there's a wrestling scenario against the cage and the referee

716
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: can't see that the fighters grabbing the cage, he can't

717
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: see that the guy's digging a knuckle into the other

718
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: guy's eye, and the replay official can and can communicate

719
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: with the referee to tell him to enforce it. Are

720
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: you against that level of big brother jumping in here?

721
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know how that. I just

722
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 3: don't know what the answer that would be. My only

723
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 3: worry is it would distract him. I don't want to

724
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 3: further distract a referee. One thing you could think about

725
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: doing was if the referee on the outside has an issue,

726
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 3: is there a light they could hit where a red

727
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 3: light would go off and just hold itself there so

728
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 3: that they could recognize that when the round is over,

729
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 3: there's going to be a meeting that has to happen.

730
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: I don't know if even that is a good idea.

731
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: I don't know how some of this should play out.

732
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: I'd be clear about that, like I don't have all

733
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 3: of the answers, except to say it is hard for

734
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: me to believe that adding technological tools to review decisions

735
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 3: and bringing in other experienced professionals somehow makes refereeing decisions worse.

736
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: I cannot imagine that that is true.

737
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: It has to be exactly the opposite, because it's so difficult.

738
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: As long as it doesn't slow it down, Luke, because

739
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: you know in the NBA went i'n't been watching as

740
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: much NBA in the last few years as normal, but

741
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: when they were at the level where you know, there'd

742
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: be a potential third quarter buzzer beating jumper and they'd

743
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: have to wait fifteen to twenty minutes for three referees

744
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: to watch the full video fourteen times, and you're slowing

745
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: down the game and giving people extra timeouts. Like that's

746
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: not efficient as long as it can be done instantaneous

747
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: or to your point, between rounds and ways that could

748
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 2: correct the scoring. Let's say there's a you know something

749
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: that yeah, I may say there's a strike that in

750
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: real time look clean, and afterwards you find out was

751
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: a legal Can you do something? I don't know. Can

752
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: you do that afterwards, Luke? When stuff happens so fast

753
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: in real time?

754
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: Well? No, here's the thing.

755
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 3: You can envision scenarios where having a second referee, including

756
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: ones that are able to walk into the octagon do whatever,

757
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 3: still doesn't solve all of your problems. There can be

758
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 3: a bunch of them. I'm gonna be very clear here.

759
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 3: There are some of these problems. I don't know how

760
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 3: the hell you solve them. Two three seven referees. I

761
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: don't know what any good that does at that point.

762
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 3: All I'm merely saying is Kyle Dawcas and Kevin Holland.

763
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: Were only only only.

764
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 3: Able to be put in the right situation after the fact, however,

765
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 3: you know, dissatisfying. It may have been to be no

766
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 3: contest if you're Kyle Daucas versus a win, but the

767
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 3: right outcome was only reached because a referee error was

768
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 3: corrected by additional referee input and technological aids. That should

769
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 3: send a fucking wake up call to people that this

770
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: job one person doing it all the time, you are

771
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 3: not gonna get good refereeing that way, You're not It's

772
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 3: not possible.

773
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: Thunder Dan lives another day though. Look they got it

774
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: right in the end, and you know I did. I

775
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: don't know if Dom Cruz was there, but I'm gonna

776
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 2: assume Murgu Laatus smells like uh who chinhos like no nonsense?

777
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: Keith Peterson does Uh you can hear my daughter outside

778
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: the door.

779
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: You want to bring around Luke. She can explain what

780
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 2: she's upset about.

781
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: Uh do I hold on? Hold on?

782
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: I mean this is this is wholesome. This is wholesome entertainment.

783
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 2: You can you know they don't do this on DC

784
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: and howani right? I don't see r C bringing his

785
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: kids on?

786
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, you're live on, You're live on TZ

787
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: don't Why are you crying for? That's who's that? He's that?

788
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: What are you crying for?

789
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: Hey?

790
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 3: Heyes, you make when you say when you see Brian Campbell.

791
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: Hey two key, you want to see my glasses?

792
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: Okay, look at his glasses?

793
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: No see see, Yeah, there we go.

794
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: This is where she had her big cut. Can you

795
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: see the Yeah.

796
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: We have to keep it on there because it's gonna

797
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: make it so that when she gets surgery gets a

798
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 3: little bit better. All right, well, listen, I have to

799
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 3: do a show, which you are rudely interrupting my sweet

800
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 3: little angel. Okay, okay, Daddy has to work. Okay, yes,

801
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 3: say come up, come up and put in Tessa. Ah, okay,

802
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: all right, you have to go.

803
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: Okay themo Okay, all right, this is your idea is.

804
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 2: We're still live. We're live, all right, all right.

805
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: To work? Okay, this is what this is what I'm

806
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: dealing with.

807
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: I mean, look, there's a lax in the MK security

808
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 2: team at your house. I mean, where where is a

809
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: Bueila when we need her?

810
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: Luke? I mean she is not here?

811
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: And uh, it's just like this all the time. All right,

812
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: let's go to point number three if we can. B C,

813
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 3: we move on to bellator after that totally awkward transition

814
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 3: as my daughter screams bloody murder. So Douglas Lima loses

815
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 3: his third in a row via split to m v

816
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 3: P in the main event in London BC. There's a

817
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: lot to say about this fight, but I guess I'll

818
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 3: ask it this way. A how'd you score it? And

819
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 3: B what should be MVP's next move? Because he was

820
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 3: talking about a third fight with Lima not so much

821
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 3: going for a title.

822
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: Two rounds to one for Douglas Lima. I called the

823
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: MVP victory here generous. I'm not gonna go the level

824
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: of robbery and competence and all that stuff, because look, Luke,

825
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 2: it was a slow, tactical fight with rounds that Yet

826
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: maybe somebody could have interpreted rounds one and two in

827
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: favor of MVP, not me. Maybe it's possible, obviously Lima's

828
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: ability to wrestle in this fight to smartly change the tempo,

829
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: put MVP on his back at the end of round

830
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 2: one and three and have you know, some offense on top,

831
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: including to close this fight, was enough on my scorecard

832
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: to stamp at home. I think the bigger problem here

833
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: for Belator Luke, in relation to this fight and in

834
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: the Romero fight just a few weeks back, why are

835
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: we not doing five round main events for fights that

836
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 2: have obvious title implications. I've gone on record and said

837
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: the past, I don't believe every main event, no matter what,

838
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: should be five rounds. There are times where we have

839
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: fighters that just are not high enough in the rankings

840
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: or or at that point in their career. But with

841
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: that said, because of what the UFC has done in

842
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: recent years, five rounds in the main event is expected,

843
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: and if you're gonna put two guys in the main event,

844
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: and by the way, on paper, this was a fantastic

845
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: main event, you'd need five rounds to tell the full story.

846
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 2: These guys are too good, too close to the title

847
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 2: to have it abruptly end after three without really much

848
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: happening in the fight. And then all of us kind

849
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: of gone, well, how'd you have it? Do you have it?

850
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I thought it was two to one

851
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: Lima clear. I think MVP. I won't call it a

852
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: hometown decision, although the home town crowd was strong in

853
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: his favor. I'll just call it a fight in which

854
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: neither guy really left their stamp. Again, Lima was the

855
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: smarter fighter out here. But I've got more negative things

856
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: to say overall about MVP's performance. Luke, we talked about

857
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: the stocks of each guy they fought two years ago.

858
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: Lima won by knockout, but it was five wins in

859
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 2: a row for MVP since then, and Lima taking two

860
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: surprising losses and title bouts. This was MVP's opportunity to

861
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 2: do something big in front of his home fans to

862
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: cement that I am next in Live for Yarslav Amasov.

863
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: And even though obviously Amasov's skill in wrestling is gonna

864
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: be a problem, I think MVP's unpredictable offense could be

865
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 2: a problem for the champion. So it's potentially a very

866
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: interesting match fight problem here is I don't think MVP

867
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 2: did enough to a win the fight or be really

868
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: take advantage of the platform and the situation at age

869
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: thirty four where some people still doubt him as an

870
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 2: elite fighter. I think, unfortunately, Luke, he played into those doubts.

871
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: There was not nearly enough urgency around three, especially when

872
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 2: he's on his back. So I want to I want

873
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: to almost Shane Belator and say, hopefully this is the

874
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: last time when you got two great fighters in a

875
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: man event. Why, why explain why this was three rounds?

876
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 2: I don't get it at all. And Luke, for MVP,

877
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: it just it wasn't what it could have been. It

878
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: really wasn't. And maybe I'm.

879
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 3: Surprised you're more mad at what lim Well hold on?

880
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 3: How would you give me a grade like ABCDF for

881
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: Lima's performance?

882
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought Lima did what he had to do

883
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: as a smart veteran to what I thought win the

884
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 2: fight under the circumstances three rounds, opponents, backyard, and Luke,

885
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 2: let's be clear, I think Douglas Seam has lost a step.

886
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: I think he's not the same guy anymore that he

887
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: was just two years ago. So given those circumstances, I

888
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: think he fought a safe, smart, efficient fight. I thought

889
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: the onus was on MVP to leave no doubt, and

890
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 2: he didn't do it.

891
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: Luke, Okay, I thought that. So I had two concluded. Well,

892
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 3: first of all, let me just echo you one more time.

893
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 3: I won't belay with a point. But what is Bellatour

894
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 3: doing with these three round fights? I mean, for these

895
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 3: main events, it's just MMA has outgrown this by leaps

896
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 3: and bounds. Bellatore has outgrown this by leaps and bounds.

897
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 3: This is this is no longer acceptable. Okay, Number one?

898
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 3: Put that aside. Number two, how did Lima look? I

899
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: thought Lima did certain things in parts that I really

900
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 3: really liked. His timing on the takedowns was great, not

901
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: just in getting under the punch, but like when it

902
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 3: was in the round, not to steal the round, but

903
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 3: you know, to have enough time on top to do

904
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 3: some meaningful work. The problem was, I didn't think he

905
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 3: did a whole lot of meaningful work on top. It

906
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: wasn't like he was passing or it was thrashing him

907
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 3: with ground and pound or threatening with submissions. He was

908
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 3: just kind of controlling from that position. I thought, on

909
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 3: the outside he was doing some nice things, but I

910
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,959
Speaker 3: thought he was waiting around a lot too. To be honest,

911
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 3: like this was not This was not a great performance

912
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: from Douglas Lima, even if I agree with you, I

913
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 3: thought he should have won two rounds to one. On

914
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 3: the other hand, with MVP, here's the problem with him.

915
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 3: I thought he did some things while his timing on

916
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 3: that right hand to dissuade some of the lag kicks

917
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: was brilliant. He knocked Lima down a couple of times,

918
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 3: even if they were like pushes more than like punches.

919
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: But still some of them got through.

920
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: But there was neither guy had enough of another offensive

921
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 3: gear to take the fight to. They had another defensive

922
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 3: gear to retreat to.

923
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: They didn't have a way.

924
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 3: To raise the stakes, so to speak, and so as

925
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 3: a consequence, neither had the best performance. But you're right, dude,

926
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: we called it. We said this was gonna be a

927
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: lot closer than the first time. Sure enough was, although

928
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 3: there was that one leg kick uppercut combo that almost

929
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: got MVP I think in the second round. But I

930
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 3: don't think either guy had a great performance here, and

931
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 3: I think a trilogy is a must.

932
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: But well, just real quick on this, Lima got dropped

933
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: twice in the first round. In the first half of

934
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: the first round, like you mentioned, what was it a

935
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: slip push combo, I don't know. He got dropped twice. So, Luke,

936
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: he's in survive in advanced territory here as the thirty

937
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: three year old three time former champ who doesn't want to,

938
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: you know, get a three fight. So I'm again not

939
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: as upset that he didn't do enough, because you can

940
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 2: question did he do enough on the top position the

941
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: third round? He did, third round, he's landing elbows from

942
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: from top position on the ground. He dropped uh, MVP

943
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: in the third round with that left hook. I mean,

944
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: I thought, Luke, seriously, Lima turned it on to the

945
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: final round when he needed to. That's the only round

946
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: that I think was clear across the board for Lima.

947
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: It's MVP that you're like, Okay, you had some great

948
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: success in the first half of the first round, but

949
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: you you kind of you didn't follow up. I think

950
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: that the problem area is that second round for MVP,

951
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 2: and especially the third. Like, I don't know, man, You've

952
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: proven in this matchup that you can surprise this guy

953
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: with big time strikes, and I think MVP did a

954
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: lot of things well on not over extending himself and

955
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: getting caught. Although to your point, that second round he

956
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 2: came close to a repeat finish of the first time around.

957
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: But it's not like I want MVP to come out

958
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: in the interview afterwards and be like, hey, guys, sorry

959
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 2: I affed up a little. But I also don't want

960
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 2: him to come out afterwards and be like I told

961
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: you so, you know, I like, no, this was not

962
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: a great performance and it wasn't a great win. It

963
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: was a he was lucky, he was he was what

964
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: I've said, this was a generous scoring that he would

965
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: come out on top. So your question is should he

966
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: advance right to the title fighter, should we do a trilogy?

967
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: You know, given the circumstances of this fight, Yeah, I

968
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 2: would like to see MVP pass this test the right way. Yes,

969
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: you know before advancing. But then again, Luke, he's got

970
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 2: six wins in a row. What you know, he just

971
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: the two of the three judges thought he just beat

972
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 2: the former champion. How much more do you want and

973
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: need from him? When when he's thirty four years old

974
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: and it's time and you know Amasov needs some big

975
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: name opponents, let's do this thing. Whichever way belatour goes,

976
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: it's fine, Luke, but I think MVP could have come

977
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: into a title opportunity in a much better situation. And

978
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: I don't think Lima was putting up the the type

979
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 2: of offense at least in the first two rounds that

980
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: would have warranted MVP being that that passive in his offense.

981
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: He gotta be busier. I said it from the being Luke.

982
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 2: I said this fight would go three rounds. I said

983
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: VP would probably win a decision, but I thought he

984
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: would be landing his jab, landing those side pushkicks, really

985
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: leaving no doubt in his activity and do that. You

986
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 2: can't do that against this guy.

987
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: I think that's fair.

988
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of blame to go around here.

989
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 3: But candidly, if I can be honest for a guy

990
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 3: like Lima. Granted he had fought Musas up away class,

991
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 3: then he fought Amasov, who's a beast.

992
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: Okay, we both and a wrestling beast.

993
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: Like he's not striking on the outside with you, he's

994
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 3: just all over you, like White on Rice. Okay, fair enough,

995
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: and MVP is a very different opponent in that regard,

996
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 3: but tricky in his own way. I just kind of

997
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 3: felt like Lima coming off those fights needing this. You

998
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 3: already beat this guy, dude, this is not the time

999
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 3: to press the brakes. And even if you wanted to

1000
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 3: give him sort of more credit for that third round push,

1001
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 3: I wasn't really wowed by it, Honestly. I thought he

1002
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 3: would be in much more of a position, like there

1003
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 3: was just a lot of times man where he was

1004
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 3: kind of following and V and looking at him and

1005
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: waiting for him to do something, where whereas he wasn't

1006
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 3: fainting or doing something else to create openings, he was

1007
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 3: just waiting for openings to be there. That was not

1008
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 3: what I was looking for from him. I was looking

1009
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 3: for some kind of a like a like a you know,

1010
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: he got electrocuted a little bit, like he realized this

1011
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 3: cannot go this way rather than I'm just gonna do

1012
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 3: a little bit less of the thing I've been doing

1013
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 3: previously at this time against a striker versus a grappler.

1014
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: Didn't love that, to be honest.

1015
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 3: With you, and tells me if the three losses in

1016
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: a row again should only be two and two to

1017
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 3: very very credible opponents and very very credible challenges like Douglas.

1018
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 3: Lima is not like Overnight Shot. That's not what I'm saying,

1019
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 3: but it does seem to me be seeing you acknowledge it,

1020
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 3: I'm gonna acknowledge you too.

1021
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: He's lost a step and you can't deny it.

1022
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: I'd like to see him against Logan Story. I think

1023
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: that'd be good match making.

1024
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: Lugan hmm, that's a tough fight. Logan Story is a beast.

1025
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: It's a tough fight.

1026
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 2: Wait, V, if you beat Logan Story in that spot

1027
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: for Lima, then you could say, Okay, first two losses time,

1028
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: you probably deserve the nod. Against MVP, you're right back

1029
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: in the title picture. But if you lose, that's four

1030
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: in a row. You're going that way. Logan Storyley is

1031
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 2: coming up next for that AMASAV rematch. I know we

1032
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: have Jason Jackson. In between, we've got MVP, we've got

1033
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: Koreshkov who came back and look fantastic Luke. So things

1034
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: are are looking up at welterway for Bellatore. So maybe

1035
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: that means you don't need to rush MVP into the

1036
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: AMASAF fight. So if you're not, here's the deal. Look

1037
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: are you do you agree with me on this? If

1038
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: you're not gonna do MVP amasoft next, then you do

1039
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: MVP Lima III at five.

1040
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: Rounds fact fact And again that dude, that's the key, dude,

1041
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 3: what is belatour doing? That fight needs to be five rounds,

1042
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 3: especially especially the trilogy.

1043
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 2: And and but look, both guys got to go after

1044
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: it too well, which we've both established that crowd. That

1045
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 2: crowd was waiting for a fight that was a fait. Look,

1046
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 2: I'll give Belatyr credit when they go to Europe and

1047
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: they get these great crowds and they make it a

1048
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: big of Now, look, I thought the matchmaking on this

1049
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: card below the main event was just not up to standards.

1050
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: And I have no problem saying that out loud.

1051
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: It was like it was a regional fight card.

1052
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: Just it was a regional fight card that co main

1053
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 2: event I know it was a ranked fighter in Liam

1054
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: McCoury at women's featherweight, but that just did that did

1055
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: not look like professional mma. I needed a little bit more.

1056
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: I needed some better matchmaking there. It's unfortunate that the

1057
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 2: main event played out more tactical than fun in that

1058
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: it left us all at the end of three rounds

1059
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 2: going water weed dune right hair. I mean, come on,

1060
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: come on, bro.

1061
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: Look a look at me. BC. I see you, I

1062
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: see you.

1063
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: I hope you do. I hope you. I mean come click,

1064
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: come on in the closet.

1065
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 3: Look please, no, no, it's funny. Uh okay, look, we'll

1066
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 3: see what happens. But I think you could do a trilogy,

1067
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 3: but you gotta do it with.

1068
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: Three rounds or five rounds.

1069
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 3: This three round shit needs to go all right point

1070
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 3: number four BC, So there was actually a lot we

1071
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 3: haven't even gotten to. Want to remind folks, BC, we

1072
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: should take this moment to remind them the extra podcast

1073
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 3: that I'm gonna do on Mondays. It has a name,

1074
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 3: MK Extra Credit. MK Extra Credit will be out sometime

1075
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: later this afternoon.

1076
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: I want to tell people this is four Okay, this

1077
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: is for all MK people. But if you are Look, look,

1078
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 2: there's there's Team Luke and there's Team BC in this game. Okay,

1079
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: and the Team Luke about that they I mean if

1080
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: they hear one more creepy joke or one more Oh

1081
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 2: oh you didn't think Nick Diaz. Look quick, you're casual fan,

1082
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 2: will go to MK extra credit, You'll get all the

1083
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 2: shit you're looking for. Okay, it's all serious breakdowns, no personality, nothing, Okay,

1084
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 2: just take it. You like my son. Look, my son's thirteen.

1085
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: His favorite ice cream flavor is vanilla. I'm like, bro,

1086
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 2: what is wrong with you?

1087
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it depends.

1088
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 3: I mean, the vanilla can be fine, but to your point,

1089
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 3: it's like it's designed to be thirty minutes or less,

1090
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 3: which doesn't give me a lot of time to do

1091
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 3: tap dancing. I'm trying to get through all the fights

1092
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 3: that matter.

1093
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: But you like playing potato chips check out MKX.

1094
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: No, it's not about that.

1095
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 3: It's just about making sure we cover all of the

1096
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 3: bases that we can with the amount of time that

1097
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 3: we have in the course of a day. We'll get

1098
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 3: into some of these bouts in much greater detail. But

1099
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 3: BC as sort of an open ended question, who else

1100
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 3: in the combat Sports Space this weekend wherever that may be.

1101
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 3: Either impressed you by how great they did or impressed

1102
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 3: you by how bad things went.

1103
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: Look, I said, coming in at this UFC Fight Night

1104
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: card was a sneaky card, and I thought it was

1105
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 2: a really fun rewatch, and it lived up to that.

1106
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: And Luke I got to give Alexander Hernandez a lot

1107
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: of credit just twenty eight years old. She flipped wins

1108
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: and losses of late and I know this was a

1109
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 2: late opponent. Switch who was preparing for Was it a

1110
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: Leandro Santos? Do that make that name up? Is that

1111
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 2: the guy?

1112
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: He thinks something like that.

1113
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: Yes, So he gets Mike Breden last minute and look,

1114
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 2: he said, Mike Briden to hell in about eighty seconds,

1115
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: knock the mouthpiece out and just walked through him. But

1116
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: Luke I think I saw, you know, a spirit and

1117
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: energy of a guy who's really trying to put it together.

1118
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 2: Hernandez comes in incredible shape at lightweight, and Luke, I

1119
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,720
Speaker 2: think there's time for this guy to put the wrestling

1120
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: and the striking together and be some thing. This was

1121
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: a great step in that in that direction, and real

1122
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 2: quickly Casey O'Neil, the King Luke stays unbeaten at women's

1123
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 2: flyweight by putting it on Antonina, and Luke, you take Antonina,

1124
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: shift chank, go to the ground. You're probably gonna have

1125
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: some success, but uh more to come. And have you

1126
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: seen this shit she put She put it on Valentina's

1127
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: big sister. It was made. There was some white belt

1128
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 2: chick going on there, Luke, I mean she put it

1129
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 2: on King Casey O'Neill is someone to watch Luke at.

1130
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: Yes and no, Yes and no. I'm not quite as

1131
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: high on her as you.

1132
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 2: Much say, save it for extra credit. Okay, bro, all right,

1133
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 2: save it.

1134
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 3: I will the uh the fight that I thought was

1135
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 3: gonna be kind of interesting that never ended up happening,

1136
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 3: was gonna be Aspen Ladd. We talked about it on

1137
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 3: Friday ABC taking on Macy Chiass and it never happened

1138
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 3: because Aspen Lad missed weight. But dude, like she didn't

1139
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 3: just miss weight, she missed weight terribly. I think she

1140
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 3: was like one forty one and then she brought herself

1141
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 3: so we can only be described as the brink of

1142
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 3: death basically, and she was able to make what was

1143
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 3: at one thirty seven, which would have put her one

1144
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 3: pound away from the extra one pound allowance. But to

1145
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 3: do it, they were like, she couldn't raise her like

1146
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 3: there was this big battle between her and the coaches

1147
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 3: because the commission wanted her to raise her hands in

1148
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 3: the air. The coach is like, she can't raise her

1149
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 3: hands in the air cause she'll fall. Well, dude, if

1150
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 3: she can't raise her hands in the air at the scale,

1151
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: cause she'll fall, you got bigger questions to answer than

1152
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 3: just about whether or not she can put her hands

1153
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 3: in the air. So she makes the one thirty seven,

1154
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 3: but at that point she looked like it was absolute death,

1155
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 3: and so they pulled it from the card and completely,

1156
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 3: and so it never happened. And she comes out later

1157
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 3: on BC and says, you know, it's my fault.

1158
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: I had my period. I just couldn't force it through.

1159
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 3: Where do you come down on lad who has had

1160
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 3: weight cutting issues previously in her career a number of times.

1161
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: What do you say this is bad?

1162
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 2: Because Luke, she had a very bad moment. I'm Friday

1163
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: where they've got that curtain around her as you sort

1164
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: of alluded to, And I mean the fact that they

1165
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 2: didn't cancel the bout right there. I mean we should

1166
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 2: have a new look. I hope one day, and I

1167
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: know it happens in both sports weight extreme weight cutting.

1168
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 2: I've always said someone's got you know, a big name

1169
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 2: is gonna have to die before we make changes to

1170
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 2: this look. There's nothing about this that is healthy, nothing

1171
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 2: at all. And I know people go, well, it's happened

1172
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: in amateur wrestling forever, but it's part of the culture.

1173
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 2: It's what I get it. But Luke, I mean, how

1174
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 2: many times have you seen these videos of them in

1175
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 2: the tubs with their you know, coach or significant other

1176
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: next to them, like they are dying to cut these

1177
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 2: weights in What it produces are these scary as hell

1178
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: moments like we saw on Friday where aspen LED's about

1179
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: to fall over and can't even stand. First of all,

1180
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 2: if that ever happens again, and it will, they need

1181
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 2: to wave off the fight right then and there. That's

1182
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 2: like when you see somebody knocked out for a split

1183
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 2: second a fight, it's the rest job to end it, right.

1184
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 2: The problem for lad is this is twice Luke, and

1185
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: I don't remember what fight it was, but it was

1186
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: before her injury. She had an equally really bad situation

1187
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: in which she almost passed out on the scale. That

1188
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 2: is your body telling you this is not the way

1189
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: class for you anymore. And I know it's unfortunate because

1190
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: Lad had the long injury break. She was supposed to

1191
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 2: fight Macy a few months ago and Chase on herd

1192
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: her leg and it pushed it out. But you know,

1193
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 2: health is more important than the long run, Luke, I

1194
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: don't think it's a horrible thing to say. Hey, Aspin, Lad,

1195
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: this is twice now you need to go up to

1196
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 2: women's featherweight. First of all, it's an even quicker shot

1197
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 2: at a title which is already pretty fast at bantam weight.

1198
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 2: Because neither of these divisions for UFC on the women's

1199
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: side have any level of depth. And for the most part,

1200
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,439
Speaker 2: if you're a ranked featherweight, you're gonna be fighting blown

1201
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 2: up bantam weights. You're gonna be fighting Holly Holm and

1202
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 2: GDR to get to the title anyway, So it doesn't

1203
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 2: seem to really matter, Luke. But I don't think we

1204
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 2: need to have a hard and fast rule. But I

1205
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 2: have my own rules. You do this twice to yourself,

1206
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 2: like you gotta go. You can't do this anymore, Luke,

1207
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: It's not gonna change again until something really bad happens.

1208
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 2: But this is real, really really really not healthy, and

1209
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 2: then the science backs it up going to the extreme

1210
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 2: level no matter what the situation was, injury or menstrual

1211
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: cycle or whatever. Luke, ahead of time, I really want

1212
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 2: to get away from this. For fighters, I really want

1213
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 2: more of them to be looking at fighting at the

1214
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 2: most natural weight possible. It's me talking from my basement.

1215
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 2: I get it, Luke, but this is not healthy what

1216
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: we saw on Friday at all.

1217
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: No, it's not. And you're asking like where she missed.

1218
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 3: She missed previously and Invicta and then she made it

1219
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 3: for her fight with Durando Me but looked like I

1220
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 3: mean it was you know, google the results for Lad

1221
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 3: versus Drandom weigh ins and every headline has the word

1222
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 3: scary in there talking about Lad trying to make weight

1223
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 3: and of course she got hit with one shot and

1224
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 3: spun around and then the fight was over. It wasn't

1225
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 3: like even though she made it to the fight in

1226
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 3: that case, we see it didn't do her any damn

1227
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 3: good because she got granted, Durandom Me can crack, but

1228
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 3: she got hit with one shot and who knows to

1229
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 3: what extent that weight cut may have contributed to it. Here,

1230
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 3: she can't even make it to the fight without all

1231
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 3: this disaster. We should take called her out. Listen, here's

1232
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 3: the thing, dude, I've had aspen Ladden person in my studio.

1233
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 3: She is very friendly, she was fun to talk to.

1234
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 3: She marches to the beat of her own drum, and

1235
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 3: I don't want to get into I hope I'm being

1236
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 3: clear about this. I'm not trying to get into any

1237
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 3: body shaming thing, because she's obviously athletic and fit. But

1238
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 3: what I'm saying is I've seen people in that weight

1239
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 3: class who are bigger and leaner who make it no problem.

1240
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 3: I don't know what the right answer is. You might

1241
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 3: be right in saying she needs to go to one

1242
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 3: forty five, but I gotta tell you, from the layman's perspective,

1243
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 3: which is the only one I am giving here, it

1244
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 3: doesn't look to me like she has fully maximized the

1245
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 3: pre fight work that goes into getting the weight down

1246
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 3: in a way so that the cut can be more manageable.

1247
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 3: I would like to see a nutritionist get control of

1248
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 3: the situation or what appears to be what is necessary.

1249
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that, Okay.

1250
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 2: That's fair. Look, that's fair. Please don't bring up anyone's

1251
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 2: only fans account in relation to this topic. Let's keep going.

1252
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 3: I won't even though you just did all right last

1253
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 3: for the five topics, but certainly not least, perhaps the

1254
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 3: most important among them. Folks, we are here. Fury Wilder

1255
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 3: three is Saturday. And it wasn't the fight that we

1256
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 3: thought we were gonna get last week. Wasn't the fight

1257
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 3: that we thought we were gonna get. We thought we

1258
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 3: were gonna get Joshua and Fury, and we all know

1259
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 3: the story and blah blah blah. Joshua already had his

1260
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 3: run with Usik, which landed us in an upset territory

1261
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 3: with Usik winning BC. Fury Wilder three is here, whether

1262
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 3: we wanted it or not. What storyline are you paying

1263
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 3: attention to most as we head into the rubber match?

1264
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 2: Look, I cannot wait for this fight. I mean, this

1265
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 2: fight is under any circumstance. This fight is massive. Six

1266
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 2: foot seven former champion with some of the most murderous

1267
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 2: punching you've ever seen in the sports history against one

1268
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: of the most dynamic heavyweights we've ever seen in the

1269
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 2: six foot nine Fury with a history of their controversial

1270
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 2: draw and the Fury knockout and walk down in the rematch. Obviously, Look,

1271
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 2: the dominant storyline for me is all the time Deontay

1272
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 2: Wilder has had. Hence their first fight, which came in

1273
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 2: early twenty twenty, right before the pandemic. They did not

1274
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: expect to have a year and a half time break

1275
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 2: from that. But Wilder, as we have talked about, has

1276
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 2: seemingly done everything right. Proof will be in the put in,

1277
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: as Floyd says on Saturday night, but seemingly everything right.

1278
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 2: To re examine his team, re examine himself as he's

1279
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 2: still making outrageous claims about Fury cheating and all this

1280
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: other stuff. Yeah, but Luke, he is a motivated machine

1281
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 2: coming in here on Saturday looking to do destructive things

1282
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 2: with a new team, a new focus. You saw the

1283
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 2: body punching videos. Why that matters is we just already

1284
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: saw Alexander Usk upset the heavyweight apple cart by flipping

1285
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: it upside down and upsetting Joshua. Wilder is in play

1286
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 2: here as a very live dog. He would be anyway

1287
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 2: for his punching power. But I think you have to

1288
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 2: take into account this one thing, Luke, Tyson Fury historically

1289
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: has played up or down to the level of competition.

1290
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 2: That is a true fact. You can you can go

1291
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: back and resume review him and find that out. Okay,

1292
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: he would get very heavy between fights before his long

1293
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: term retirement, and from twenty fifteen to twenty eighteen, when

1294
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 2: he had the drug problems and all that, he would

1295
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 2: balloon up between fights against lesser known opponents and not

1296
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 2: always look great. And then what happened, Luke. He Foughtklitchko,

1297
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: and he was in amazing shape and had a boxing

1298
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: lesson of a lifetime. We've seen him go up or down.

1299
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 2: This fight wasn't supposed to happen. Tyson Fury doesn't need

1300
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 2: this fight for his legacy, but he does need this

1301
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 2: fight Luke, to keep his WBC title, to keep his

1302
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: lineal championship title, and to advance further toward us having

1303
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 2: hopefully in twenty twenty two an undisputed four belt champion

1304
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 2: at heavyweight for the first time ever. You wonder if

1305
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: that plays into it of will Fury be at that

1306
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 2: same level when he doesn't have all this stuff to

1307
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: prove to the world. Luke. I wondered that on their

1308
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 2: second fight and it was one way traffic when Fury

1309
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 2: brought in new trainer Javon sugar Hill Steward, and he

1310
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 2: became an offensive force at the very least. Regardless of

1311
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 2: how this goes, Luke, this is gonna be some high

1312
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: level heavyweight theater the first few rounds. I mean, it's

1313
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 2: gonna be dramatic, it's gonna be crazy, it's gonna be

1314
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 2: tense as shit. That's what you want in heavyweight boxing.

1315
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 2: Heavyweight boxing is the gateweight drug to this sport. Right,

1316
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 2: big heavyweight to talk trash, You're gonna come out swinging, Luke,

1317
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to see what this thing looks like.

1318
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 2: And as much as we all know, Fury is by

1319
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 2: far the better boxer, the better fighter. Nothing guaranteed about

1320
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: Saturday Night. That's the that's the head, that's the lead story, Luke.

1321
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: You're only there's only gonna be a winner when you

1322
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 2: see it live. You cannot really handicap this one given

1323
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 2: all those other circumstances, dude.

1324
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 3: You know, for all of the size in terms of

1325
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 3: the the significance really of the Usik and Joshua about

1326
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 3: that was like two guys, very gentlemanly.

1327
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: They didn't have a history.

1328
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 3: The fight was kind of surprisingly made, and it was

1329
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 3: really just about what happened in the ring. For the

1330
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 3: most part, these two Jabroni's this is heavyweight. I like

1331
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 3: the way you put it is. Heavyweight theater is really

1332
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 3: what it is. You're not gonna get better heavyweight theater.

1333
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 3: You might get better heavyweight theater maybe with Joshua and Fury,

1334
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 3: depending on how things go. But dude, Fury and Wilder

1335
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 3: is I mean, two guys larger than live, personal personalities,

1336
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 3: different nationalities, different backgrounds, completely different ways of boxing. Everything

1337
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 3: about these two being contrasting polar opposites makes it so

1338
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 3: much fun. Even if this is not what we'd asked for.

1339
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 3: In terms of the question in hand, what storyline we're

1340
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 3: paying attention to, you kind of nailed it. I don't

1341
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 3: have much to add except to say that's the one

1342
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 3: I'm paying attention to too, which is, there is no

1343
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 3: good reason, no boxing reason, so to speak, in terms

1344
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 3: of pure boxing skill, why Deontay Wilder should win.

1345
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: He should not win.

1346
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 3: He has an opponent in front of him who not

1347
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 3: only thoroughly outclassed him in the last about, he should

1348
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 3: thoroughly outclass him in this one. I think Tyson Fury

1349
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 3: is the king of the division, even if he remains

1350
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 3: somewhat uncrowned. Nevertheless, I don't know exactly if Fury has

1351
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 3: taken this bout as seriously as he should have given

1352
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 3: some of the circumstances. That's saying he hasn't. It just

1353
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 3: there was a whole redemption story getting back into shape

1354
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 3: and blah blah blah about his return that is not

1355
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 3: so much in play here, although maybe it's obviously is

1356
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 3: not as necessary because he has done a better job

1357
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 3: at maintaining his health. Still, it's just sort of quiet

1358
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 3: around that kind of situation. Meanwhile, whether he is benching

1359
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 3: with gloves and you know, looking like he's getting electrocuted

1360
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 3: in terms of moving his feet everywhere. You have a

1361
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 3: guy like Deontay Wilder who's been in the weight room,

1362
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 3: who has changed his training up, who just looks possessed.

1363
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 3: I mean, and even a possessed Wilder shouldn't beat Fury. Again,

1364
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 3: you're asking me who I'm gonna pick. This is not

1365
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 3: a hard pick. I'm gonna pick Tyson Fury away. At

1366
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 3: the same time, the storyline I'm paying attention to is

1367
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 3: this count of Monte Cristo vibe that Deontay Wilder has,

1368
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 3: where he not only got the l in the last

1369
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,479
Speaker 3: fight and still believing some of the delusions right because

1370
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 3: he's called tests in Furia cheater and blah blah blah,

1371
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 3: but is coming into this fight with a level of

1372
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 3: almost deranged singular track revenge fantasy that he wants to

1373
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 3: let out on the world, where however much boxing skill

1374
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 3: he lacks. B see, he has historic power in that

1375
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 3: straight right, he absolutely does. You cannot take that away

1376
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 3: from him. If Tyson Fury is not on his game

1377
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 3: and Deontay Wilder is count of monto christi christo ing it,

1378
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 3: which is not a word, but if he's doing it, dude,

1379
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 3: who the fuck knows what could happen on Saturday. It

1380
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 3: is highly intriguing.

1381
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 2: There's three ways that could go in my eyes in

1382
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 2: terms of our entertainment value. If it's a repeat of

1383
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 2: the first one, which I don't think it would be,

1384
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 2: where Tyson Fury tries to box for twelve rounds. Then

1385
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 2: the tenth the tense theater of knowing that Wilder needs

1386
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 2: to be perfect, as he says, for one second, whereas

1387
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 2: Fury needs to be perfect for thirty six minutes. That's

1388
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 2: entertainment right there. Okay, Well, what if it's the second

1389
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 2: one where Fury goes into full offensive mode and the

1390
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 2: fact that he's bigger, longer, faster, and a more accurate

1391
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 2: puncher he just takes Wilder out of there, Well that

1392
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: that's pretty entertaining too. But Luke, the wild card is

1393
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 2: the third one. If Wilder comes out and just says,

1394
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 2: f it, this is my career in one night. I'm

1395
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 2: not waiting until round eight or nine to counter you.

1396
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 2: I'm not waiting for you to you know, jump all

1397
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 2: over me like you did in the second fight. We're

1398
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 2: going to war right now. Oh you think you're big

1399
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 2: enough to stand with me and take my shots and

1400
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 2: in fire back, let's do it right frickin' now, Look

1401
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 2: we win. We wait at all three scenarios as fans.

1402
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 2: So I don't want to underplay what this fight means

1403
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 2: for the current state of boxing for this week. This

1404
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 2: you know this, but like you can't understand eight. What

1405
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 2: the potential of a giant fight like this with crossover

1406
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 2: implications actually living up to potential. What that does if

1407
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 2: the sport backs it up with really good fights after

1408
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 2: each other and we're just coming off that aj upset.

1409
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 2: We're probably gonna see an USAC rematch. The story, the

1410
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 2: connective tissue, the storylines are building. I mean, we lived

1411
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 2: the clitch Goo era. It was awful. We thought Vladimir

1412
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 2: Klitchko and David Hay in twenty eleven was finally gonna

1413
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 2: be a fight, and that one sucked the horn. Luke,

1414
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 2: how many times are you like trying to if you're

1415
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 2: a boxing fan, get your friends to care about a

1416
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 2: heavyweight fight. We're in a different era now, these two

1417
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 2: guys have history. It's gonna be it's gonna be violent,

1418
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 2: tense theater on Saturday, and you know, get your popcorn ready, Luke, Okay,

1419
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 2: bring your games Saturday.

1420
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,439
Speaker 3: We neither of us have really explored this, although we've

1421
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 3: you know, we've given we've paid attention to it, but

1422
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 3: we haven't really dug into the details. Dude, what would

1423
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 3: it mean for Deontay Wilder. I am picking Tyson Fury

1424
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 3: to win, but with a guy who is coming in

1425
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 3: like the Count de monte Cristo, with the power that

1426
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 3: he does in his right hand, Deontay Wilder should not

1427
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 3: be slept on. Let's imagine a scenario. And even if

1428
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 3: they make a fourth fight and he gets you know,

1429
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 3: crushed like he did in the second one, Let's imagine

1430
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 3: he wins the third one, okay, and he wins it

1431
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 3: like he's losing all six rounds like he did like

1432
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 3: the Luis Ortiz fight. Then he just comes out and

1433
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 3: bombs on him with one shot, and there you go.

1434
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 3: That's not in any way inconceivable, Okay, dude. The amount

1435
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 3: of in your face gloating and screaming and singing from

1436
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 3: the rooftops that the forty pound instrument he carried on

1437
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 3: his body and everything else, Deontay Wilder is going to

1438
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 3: rewrite boxing history a little bit. Even if he scores

1439
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 3: something of a fluke win here by virtue of the stakes,

1440
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 3: by virtue of the denial from the second fight he's

1441
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 3: carrying into the third one. No one has ever because

1442
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 3: after the second fight he not only lost BC, we

1443
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 3: all talked about how bad he handled it by blaming

1444
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 3: on Mark Brielean and saying all these things like, oh,

1445
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 3: it was the forty pound costume that I wore. He

1446
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 3: never was like yo, I got out boxed, and so

1447
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 3: we thought, oh, well, it's kind of over for him,

1448
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,959
Speaker 3: it's not if he goes in there and scores a

1449
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 3: huge upset, which is what it would.

1450
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: Be in my mind over Tyson Fury.

1451
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 3: Dude, he would change the not just the landscape of

1452
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 3: the Heavway division. He would redefine how everyone is supposed

1453
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 3: to have seen the last one, even if it's a

1454
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 3: little bit flucish, be prepared for that.

1455
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 2: And I hope, Luke, if that happened, I hope he

1456
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 2: would he would win over some favor. He never became

1457
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 2: the star he could have been as an American with

1458
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 2: that kind of body and look and swagger and that

1459
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 2: ability to be a knockout artist, which again is the

1460
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 2: one thing that cuts through the heart of anyone who

1461
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 2: doesn't pay attention to boxing. They will when you can

1462
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 2: punch like that. And we always said, Okay, maybe he

1463
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 2: doesn't have that next level charisma, or maybe the American

1464
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 2: sports scene is just so overcrowded in the team sports

1465
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 2: vein that it's hard to get behind this guy. I

1466
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 2: still don't understand why people didn't get behind him, Luke.

1467
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 2: They when they were putting them on Fox Living Room

1468
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 2: and they was doing you know, these pay per view fights,

1469
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying He's an easily likable hero because

1470
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 2: he says what he feels, and he made a lot

1471
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 2: of excuses after that second fight. But that kind of storyline,

1472
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 2: I mean, that's some hero shit. If he comes back

1473
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 2: and wins this back, Luke, there will be a big

1474
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 2: I told you so, there'd be a big type of moment.

1475
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:26,919
Speaker 2: And while athletes like Tiger Woods are key in bringing

1476
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 2: the crossover massive population of a niche sport to the

1477
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 2: forefront because you got one dominant person, I think, like

1478
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 2: all Floyd Mayweather, one dominant person for so long that

1479
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 2: you're just tuning in for the greatness. I think people

1480
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 2: deep inside they want rivalries even more, Luke, they want

1481
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 2: rivalries that go back and forth. I think the best

1482
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 2: rivalry of our modern eras boxing fans was Manny Pacio

1483
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 2: and Juan Manuel Marcus. Four classic fights. You do it

1484
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 2: at the heavyweight level. You do some Ali Frasier holy

1485
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 2: Field bow type shit at the heavyweight level, fight three times,

1486
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 2: maybe four. I mean, Looke, it's it, we need that,

1487
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 2: we want that. Let's do that, please please.

1488
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 3: And I'll also say this, I don't know how likely

1489
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 3: any of these fights are, but let's imagine Fury goes

1490
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 3: in there in the in this one and does what

1491
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 3: he did in the second one. I don't know how

1492
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 3: likely a Fury Usik fight would be, probably not very

1493
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 3: given all the different circumstances in play, or even for

1494
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 3: that matter.

1495
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:22,799
Speaker 1: Wilder Joshua.

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Speaker 3: But I gotta tell you, BC, I wouldn't mind seeing

1497
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 3: any of those fights among these four. You can Usik

1498
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 3: versus Wilder. Usik would probably box circles around him. But

1499
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 3: all it takes is one fucking right hand from that

1500
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 3: guy and he can change the whole show. So like,

1501
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 3: there's a lot of different permutations here with a win

1502
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 3: or a loss. Where again, I don't know what kind

1503
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 3: of fertile ground it creates for promoting and creating these bouts,

1504
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 3: but the potential could be there for some fun permutations.

1505
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean the four Kings, Hagler, Hearns, Duran Leonard,

1506
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,879
Speaker 2: they fought each other nine times in ten years. Imagine

1507
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 2: if the next five years, Luke gives us the continuation

1508
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 2: of this round robin with all these guys, come on,

1509
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 2: it writes its elf, Bro, but that's boxing. We probably

1510
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 2: won't get it because that's boxing, Luke, that is boxing.

1511
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 3: You're right, well, we'll get something like re I keep

1512
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 3: calling him Andy Reid. Dude, it's so fucking funny Andy

1513
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 3: Ruiz versus you know, I don't know something we didn't want.

1514
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 3: All Right, With that out of the way, ABC is

1515
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 3: time for the viewers to ask us questions. We put

1516
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 3: up a post every Sunday on Instagram YouTube, I should

1517
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 3: say Instagram dot com slash Morning Combat where you get

1518
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 3: to leave us questions.

1519
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 1: It's time for d ms from the donks.

1520
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 3: Here's my question. How much money do I have to

1521
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 3: pay to not have children scream at my door? I

1522
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 3: really wonder because I already pay a lot. Apparently it's

1523
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 3: not enough. Okay, what.

1524
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean? I paid good money, dude, child paid handsomely.

1525
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 2: Luke, you you haven't. This is me. You have this

1526
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 2: much money since you had sex with an ATM machine

1527
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 2: in college.

1528
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: You know, dude. This This is a fact.

1529
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 3: DC has the most expensive childcare of any city in

1530
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 3: the country.

1531
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 1: It's the most expensive, and.

1532
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 3: I pay at about the bleeding edge of what even

1533
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 3: that costs. What can I do to get children to

1534
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 3: not scream at my door? I don't know, all right?

1535
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 2: At change.

1536
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 1: I need I need, like what they needed.

1537
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 3: At that first UFC event when they had proposed like

1538
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 3: having a moat full of gators or something.

1539
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know. She stopped crying when when I

1540
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 2: when I started doing tricks Luke, Okay, I don't know.

1541
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: I think she.

1542
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 3: I think she howled even worse all right from at

1543
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 3: Mixed Marshall Mellon just the worst name ever?

1544
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: Uh, some kind of joke? BC. Can you get Luke

1545
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: to be more candid with us? To be candid? He

1546
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: never answers questions quite cam.

1547
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,759
Speaker 2: Ah, Luke, you have so many tropes that the fans

1548
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 2: love hate. You know, the glass you had a clip on.

1549
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 2: What happened to that?

1550
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 1: Luke?

1551
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 2: You're doing a lot of this today. You're doing a

1552
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 2: lot of uh, the Luke Thomas special of.

1553
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 1: No No. I moved him back.

1554
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 3: They're still on. So I moved him back because they

1555
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 3: were hurting my ears.

1556
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 2: So now I you've got to be quite candid with you.

1557
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 2: You've got I.

1558
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 3: Mean Mixed Marshall Mellon. This person you ever bought limits?

1559
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 3: How many times has Mixed Marshall Mellon ordered Taco Bell

1560
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 3: shirtless at a drive through and then sat in the

1561
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 3: parking lot and sad ate it by themselves you worry

1562
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 3: less about my verbal tics and more about your life.

1563
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: How about that?

1564
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 2: Look, you did have a run in that doc, the

1565
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 2: doc number five, which you can find right now on

1566
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 2: YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat. You did have a

1567
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 2: run in there where you were like, I think you

1568
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 2: said BC seventeen times in a two sentence fragment. Luke,

1569
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 2: you were like, you know, BC likes Jake because BC

1570
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 2: loves BC and BC can be BC around John Bolton,

1571
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 2: that angry fan who thinks you say my name too much.

1572
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 2: He must have been rolling in his grave.

1573
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: Luke. Yeah, you know how much I care? Not much.

1574
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 2: You know. My mom did call the other day and

1575
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 2: she's like, what's this. I see there's like a meme

1576
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 2: with you in a bed and you're upset about your

1577
01:12:55,960 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 2: the future of your career is everything? Okay? Actually it's great.

1578
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 2: It's actually great.

1579
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: It's like that's part.

1580
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 2: Mom, it's art. It's art, mom, meat loaf, it's.

1581
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 3: R I didn't tell you what my dad said, so

1582
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 3: I told my dad. I was like, yeah, Dad, you know,

1583
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 3: the number one boxer both in terms of box office

1584
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 3: attraction and maybe skill is fighting on showtime and the

1585
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 3: first week in November. I'm actually going to be going

1586
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 3: to Las Vegas for that, you know, and obviously you

1587
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 3: know I work with Showtime.

1588
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: We're hoping to do some big things that week.

1589
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 3: He's like, Oh, if you're going to be in Las Vegas,

1590
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 3: I have a rental property I would like you to

1591
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 3: check out.

1592
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 1: No, I'm like, wait, wait a time out.

1593
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:35,719
Speaker 3: You're not going to say anything about like this great

1594
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 3: opportunity for my career, but you want me to go

1595
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 3: run you fucking errands and like.

1596
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 2: Like, hey, dono you mind shaking them down? They owe

1597
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:42,520
Speaker 2: me another month please.

1598
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 3: You know, can you can you go serve a summons

1599
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 3: to my deadbeat tenants?

1600
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: All right?

1601
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 3: From at the MMA guy, the Underscore MMA guy. If

1602
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 3: headbuts were legal in MMA, how frequently do you think

1603
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 3: they'd be used?

1604
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 1: Very? And how effective of a technique do you think

1605
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 1: it would be? Very? Have you ever seen this guy,

1606
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:02,719
Speaker 1: King Leduke.

1607
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 3: He does this lifewave boxing, which is like Burmese kickboxing,

1608
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 3: which is kind of like tie boxing, except part of

1609
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 3: the rules is headbutting, And so he'll do these combinations

1610
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 3: like it just to him, it's just another way to train,

1611
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 3: and so he'll throw Bob Bob bob spinning back this

1612
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 3: and then he'll launch into a head butt. It's not

1613
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 3: overly used. It's like any other weapon. But Mark Coleman

1614
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 3: used them. You can go back and look before they

1615
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 3: got rid of him, you could use head butts early on.

1616
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 3: I think in UFC and Mark colemb like smash into

1617
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 3: people in their guard. They can be quite effective.

1618
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think maybe Mark Coleman was able to use

1619
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 2: them effective. I think in the very beginning they were

1620
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 2: very ineffective. People tried to mix them in it but

1621
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 2: didn't really have big moments with him. But yeah, look

1622
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 2: could be absolutely devastating. Come on, somebody would knock themselves out.

1623
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:49,640
Speaker 2: They're going for it.

1624
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 3: If you've never seen King l Duke, check him out.

1625
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 3: It spelled l E Duc King LaDuke on Instagram. He's

1626
01:14:56,439 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 3: an interesting guy, all right. From at Ryan W. Barker PC,

1627
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 3: MMA Hardcore Boxing casual here, I'm curious to know what

1628
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 3: strengths Caleb Plant brings to the fight with Canelo. That's

1629
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 3: a very you know what, PC, That's a perfectly good

1630
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 3: question that an MMA fan should ask.

1631
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, At the very least, Caleb Plant brings the

1632
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 2: one skill that matches up the best with Canelo's deficiency. Now,

1633
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 2: the problem with saying Canelo has a deficiency is one,

1634
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 2: he's the Pomper palm king of the sport, the number

1635
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 2: one with a bullet, and two because Canelo has moved

1636
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 2: up in weight so dramatically and yet kept his durability

1637
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 2: and speed and power. When you move up in weight,

1638
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 2: your speed gets more accentuated because you're going against bigger,

1639
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 2: in theory, slower guys. So what I mean by that

1640
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 2: was when Canelo for a while fought at one fifty four,

1641
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 2: he was considered a technical counterpuncher, a big puncher, but

1642
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 2: he was considered to have having had slow feet. And

1643
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 2: if you were a pure boxer, think Floyd Mayweather, think

1644
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 2: Air Slandi Lara, who both had you know, considerable success

1645
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 2: against him, then you could do that. So Caleb Plant

1646
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 2: at the very least brings in very good foot speed.

1647
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 2: He is a pure boxer, one pure boxer, and very

1648
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 2: quick hands, throws very good combinations on the inside. Obviously,

1649
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 2: the problem with that and why he's such a big underdog,

1650
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 2: even though this is an important fight that we need

1651
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 2: to see obviously, for the undisputed notion and all that

1652
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 2: is that Canelo that that that speed deficiency is so

1653
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 2: so less noticeable at this weight class at one hundred

1654
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 2: and sixty eight pounds, and Canelo, to his credit, has

1655
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 2: worked on all of his weaknesses and rounded them out.

1656
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 2: But Kleb Plant doesn't have one punch knockout ability, but

1657
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 2: he is so quick with those combinations that he can

1658
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 2: hurt you. When he won the championship against Jose Uzkatigi

1659
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen, he knocked him down twice and then

1660
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 2: he had to bite down in the final rounds and

1661
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 2: they kind of went to war. So what does Kleb

1662
01:16:56,360 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 2: Plant have most importantly boxing IQ and ability in speed.

1663
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 2: But let me add one more thing in there. This

1664
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 2: is the thing that could lead to him getting knocked

1665
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 2: out by the way, right, But if you look at

1666
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 2: the history, Canelo tends to knock all these guys out.

1667
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 2: Caleb Plant has a go get it. He has a

1668
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 2: spirit of going after it. Now, you wouldn't necessarily know

1669
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 2: that by his last Plant his last fight against Caleb Truax,

1670
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 2: the former champion, in which Caleb Plant won a wide

1671
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 2: dominant decision. But Luke and I on the show, I

1672
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 2: think rightfully so for a Big Fox main event, we

1673
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 2: didn't love that. Caleb Plant didn't leave a big statement.

1674
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 2: He didn't leave. No, he won, there was no question

1675
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 2: about that. But he wasn't He wasn't great that night.

1676
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 2: He was very good, he wasn't great. Caleb Plant has

1677
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 2: a go get it in him to go after it,

1678
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 2: meaning if there is an opening there to have to

1679
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 2: stand up and fight Canelo in key spots and go

1680
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 2: for it, he's gonna go for it again, Luke, that

1681
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 2: could lead to his exit, but he has a fighting spirit.

1682
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 2: He's had a crazy life to get to this point.

1683
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 2: He came from nowhere, all that stuff. You've heard that

1684
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 2: story in boxing so many times. You can think he's

1685
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,719
Speaker 2: a you can say whatever, but Caleb Plant is coming

1686
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 2: to win this fight. And I'm sorry you can't say

1687
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 2: that about every one of Canelo's big name opponents. I mean,

1688
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 2: I thought Danny Jacobs had the body and skill set

1689
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 2: to beat him. And I think Danny Jacobs is gonna

1690
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 2: think about that loss for years where it was close

1691
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 2: but he didn't do enough because he didn't go after it.

1692
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 2: I think Caleb Plant's going to go after it, whether

1693
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 2: that ends in him getting Kote or not. Luke, So

1694
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 2: you bring that speed with a with a. I mean, look,

1695
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 2: what else do you what else do I need to

1696
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 2: say about Caleb Plant that you saw in that press conference? Okay,

1697
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 2: you thought Canelo won that press conference. That's fine. Caleb

1698
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 2: stood up to the number one guy in the sport

1699
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 2: and didn't back down. That's what he's bringing to this fight, Luke,

1700
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 2: that's the spirit I bring to this show. You might

1701
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 2: as well be Canelo and I'm Caleb Plant. Look I'm

1702
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 2: coming bro.

1703
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 3: All right, I'm I know, I'm definitely not. I'm more

1704
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:51,799
Speaker 3: Andy Ruiz than this whole equation.

1705
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 1: I kid him. I'm mostly looking in the mirror with that. Yeah.

1706
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 3: Also, I mean you everything you said about Kleb Plant

1707
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 3: is true. A couple of things out I would say

1708
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 3: one to be seen though, as well as I do. Dude,

1709
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 3: if you're gonna be a weight class holder, and this

1710
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 3: is about unification, but it's true for MMA, it's true

1711
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 3: for boxing. If you're gonna be a weight class holder,

1712
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 3: you have a responsibility to defend it. And here is

1713
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 3: a case where, yes, this is a sort of a

1714
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 3: different scenario, but it applies sort of in principle, which is,

1715
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 3: you know, maybe Caleb Plant doesn't wow people or maybe

1716
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 3: you know, maybe you're a skeptical of his chances, which

1717
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 3: I don't think is necessarily wrong. But this is the

1718
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 3: fight that has to make an order for this progression

1719
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 3: in this division to happen. So let's just see what

1720
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 3: happens with it. That was the first thing I say.

1721
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 3: The second thing I says. You may have said it,

1722
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 3: but it just reminds people one more time. He's got

1723
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 3: great feet. He has good feet, Caleb Plant, He's got

1724
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 3: good footwork. He's got he gets into positions quickly, he

1725
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 3: gets out of them quickly. He sets himself in a

1726
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 3: very balanced way, very quickly, like he just sort of

1727
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 3: finds where he needs to be very.

1728
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 1: Often with his feet.

1729
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 3: And you know, he's not like super fleet a foot,

1730
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 3: but it's it's always on point.

1731
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 1: It's a really good time.

1732
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 2: His Canelo has has very good foot speed at this

1733
01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 2: weight class. But Canelo's skill is planting himself in and swiveling.

1734
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 2: He's so dynamic at avoiding shots encountering. If Caleb Plant

1735
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 2: can make it where Canelo's got a chase and Caleb

1736
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 2: is fast enough to land and get out of trouble,

1737
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 2: that's where we're gonna have a fight, Luke, that's gonna

1738
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 2: be the fight right there. But obviously that's asking a lot. No.

1739
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 2: Nobody counters more cleanly effectively in terms of one punch

1740
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 2: to try to get you out of there, whether it's

1741
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 2: a hook to the body or a right cross over

1742
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,560
Speaker 2: the top than Canelo. That's why he's the best in

1743
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 2: the game.

1744
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 1: Fair enough, all right, So let's go to Cubbys fan eighty.

1745
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 3: I see this person in our DMS all the time.

1746
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 3: If CBS Sports came to you with an offer to

1747
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 3: cover a non combat sporting event.

1748
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 1: What would your dream pick be? Oh, dream pick, Luke?

1749
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,639
Speaker 2: What? And so this is you covering it? Meaning you're

1750
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 2: doing the HQ pre impost on Cam's Luke, you're right

1751
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 2: in a feature column afterwards. I mean what I mean?

1752
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 1: Here's the thing.

1753
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 3: There's a lot of sports I would like to cover

1754
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 3: that I could do well, honestly, but I wouldn't make

1755
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 3: any money. So if you want to make money, then

1756
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 3: the answer is easy. NFL, right, or NBA or something

1757
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,440
Speaker 3: like that. If you just want to do a passion project,

1758
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 3: which I think is more what this person's asking, Yes

1759
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 3: it does air on CBS Sports. I would pick World's

1760
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 3: Strongest man, I could do. I could do I'm telling you,

1761
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 3: given who they normally have on that, I could do

1762
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 3: a really good job.

1763
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

1764
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 2: Who is this guy? My son Isaac's screensaver on his

1765
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,560
Speaker 2: laptop is some guy named the Beast. He's got the

1766
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 2: tattoo on his arms of.

1767
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 3: The Yes, Eddie Hall, Eddie Hall leg He's very legit.

1768
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 3: He was world's strongest man a few years ago. He

1769
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 3: was the first guy to deadlift ever five hundred kilos.

1770
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 3: That was the That was the record that was broken

1771
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 3: by Thor at five hundred and one or whatever it

1772
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 3: was Kilo's. He and Thor were supposed to have a

1773
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 3: boxing match in September, but Thor, excuse me, Eddie got

1774
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 3: injury toward his biceps, so he's on the on the mend.

1775
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 3: But he's a very very, very very legit guy.

1776
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I would probably do something. Dream scenario. I guess

1777
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:00,719
Speaker 2: I'd have to go a Olympics, Luke.

1778
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: You know, oh, that's not a bad one.

1779
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 2: I would specifically love to cover Olympic basketball, starting with

1780
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 2: the Dream Team of ninety two. Well even before that, Luke,

1781
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 2: I've always been a sucker for Team USA basketball. You

1782
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 2: know that great Final in twenty twelve. You know, obviously

1783
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 2: the Dream Team run in ninety two and ninety six,

1784
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 2: and then of course that faltering run they had and four.

1785
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 2: To me, that's that would be that would be something special.

1786
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 1: Luke. Okay, we just have to live somewhere for like

1787
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 1: six years. Would you want to do that?

1788
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 2: Six years? What are you talking about, Luke?

1789
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 3: No, I'm saying like you have to live at the

1790
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 3: Olympic village for like six weeks or more, two months whatever.

1791
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 2: But they have a lot of hot, passionate things going

1792
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 2: on in that Olympic village, Luke.

1793
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, with the athletes, not with the donk losers like you.

1794
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 2: I'm taking Luke, thank you?

1795
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Okay, that's the issue, all right.

1796
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 3: Last, but not least from sp l Adam, do either

1797
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,719
Speaker 3: of you decorate the outside of your houses for Halloween?

1798
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 3: That's a great question, you see, what do you say?

1799
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. No, I don't I I think I've

1800
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 2: said it before, and here I was. I was. I

1801
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 2: loved Halloween as a kid, loved scary movies. I went

1802
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 2: very anti Halloween, Luke. Uh, when my kids were younger,

1803
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 2: I just I kind of I kind of was done

1804
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 2: with the the I mean there's an extreme side to Halloween. Look,

1805
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 2: there's the fun and games, dresser kids of get candy,

1806
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 2: but then there's like the extreme dark side to it.

1807
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 2: I kind of got anti that for a while, maybe

1808
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 2: too fundamentalist anti that. And even when my kids were

1809
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 2: like three and four and five were like, nah, you

1810
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 2: don't you don't need to go out trick or tree.

1811
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 2: We'll do something fun at home. I've softened on that.

1812
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 2: They've had the fun experiences in life and I've realized

1813
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 2: my wrongdoings. But with that said, Luke, I'm not the

1814
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 2: guy who's gonna put spiders and skeleton bones outside. You know,

1815
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 2: my wife loves Christmas decorating, so I do the best

1816
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 2: to do the minimum to satisfy that regard. And I

1817
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 2: keep pushing. I'm like, you love things, you know you

1818
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 2: love Christmas? From my holidays, Thanksgiving? Can we celebrate that?

1819
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 2: Can we put up some uh some some stuff? Were that?

1820
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 2: So we've been we've been compromising there, Luke, but no

1821
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 2: no Halloween decorating. I could see you maybe even using

1822
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:09,560
Speaker 2: your weight bench and your squatting rack. You should be

1823
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 2: able to hang things from there out in your front yard.

1824
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 1: Luke.

1825
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 2: Maybe have. I could see you having one of those

1826
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 2: people that open their house up to kids and it's

1827
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 2: like a haunted house on their first floor and like

1828
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 2: you scare them, and then the back the back door,

1829
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 2: they get candy, and then Coach Sandusky is there. It's like, oh,

1830
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 2: you know, coach, I want to see my defensive schemes.

1831
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 2: And then your wife dresses up as doctor Nasser, and

1832
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's just twisted, Luke.

1833
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 3: It's just I think you really misunderstand people in the

1834
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 3: worst way imaginable. No, I don't really dress up my

1835
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 3: house either. I have, I'll be honest. Now that my

1836
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 3: kid's older, I've kind of wanted to do a little

1837
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 3: bit like some fun lighting or something or whatever. But no,

1838
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,560
Speaker 3: in general, I don't. I don't do that, and I

1839
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 3: have it. So there you go, all right, time for

1840
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 3: your bullshit, Luke.

1841
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 2: It's our bullshit. First of all, Okay, yes, look at

1842
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 2: this what we do every Monday. We scour the globe

1843
01:24:58,160 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 2: for the good and bad, the highs and lows, the

1844
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 2: ug in between, all that in combat sports and beyond.

1845
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 2: It's called have you seen this shit? Alrighty, Luke. We

1846
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 2: got a lot of good stuff. From UFC Fight Night

1847
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:17,839
Speaker 2: in Vegas. Hey, Luke, Johnny Walker gave us the full gamut.

1848
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,640
Speaker 2: The fight may have lacked the fireworks we wanted, but

1849
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 2: we got all the Johnny Walker weirdness we could have wanted.

1850
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 2: This week, here's the stare down with my Headta.

1851
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 1: I know what is he doing?

1852
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 2: Weird shit? Luke? So he does, he specializes in it.

1853
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't enjoy that.

1854
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:36,600
Speaker 2: He's a master's degree in debauchery, Luke. Okay. Then it

1855
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 2: went to the walk in at the UFC APEX. Luke,

1856
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 2: your thoughts on these dance moves?

1857
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 1: This is me every time the paycheck hits the account.

1858
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, wow, oh wow, that's a that's sounding like, dude.

1859
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 1: Can he dance without hip thrusts? I don't know, I.

1860
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 2: Don't know that's possible. It. Look, the real question is

1861
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:03,719
Speaker 2: can he hit the prep point without sexual hip thrust

1862
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 2: Let's go to the videotape on this one. See you

1863
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 2: were putting the vassolina. Oh yeah, he's no stranger to vasolene.

1864
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 1: Luke. Yeah.

1865
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 3: I mean it's like, dude, you got another man putting

1866
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 3: vasaline in your face. Can you stop gyrating and cavorting

1867
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 3: for five seconds please, Yeah, he probably does this at

1868
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 3: the DMV.

1869
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1870
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 2: Uh. Finally, Luke, in between rounds when John Kavnough's trying

1871
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 2: to give him instructions, here's Walker breaking the fourth wall.

1872
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 1: Okay, less face face, more punch, punch.

1873
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 2: All right, hey, let's keep it going. At UFC Vegas,

1874
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 2: I mentioned casey O'Neil the King improved to eight and

1875
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 2: oh look look at this full mount she got on Antonina. Hey, Luke,

1876
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 2: can we be really harsh? Here? Is it time for

1877
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 2: Valentina's older sister to call it quits? Because anytime someone

1878
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,719
Speaker 2: gets in this position against her, which is every fight,

1879
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 2: we're on a trend here, Luke.

1880
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 3: I mean, she doesn't have to quit in the sense

1881
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 3: that she's some kind of danger to herself or something.

1882
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 3: But it's like, I'm with you after this fight, I'm like,

1883
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 3: oh right, her upside is you've seen it.

1884
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 2: I mean, she's thirty six, she's a very good striker,

1885
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 2: and she was piecing O'Neill up at times, Luke. But

1886
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 2: on the ground she's bad. I mean she's rough, Luke.

1887
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: It was not good. It was not good. I agree

1888
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 1: with you. The jury's in.

1889
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 2: All right, Hopefully you'll mention this guy an extra credit

1890
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 2: later today. Here's lightweight Jamie Mullarkey. He was down earlier

1891
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 2: against DeVante Smith and look at this comeback, Luke.

1892
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 3: This one surprised me because Smith was doing good work.

1893
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 3: But this kid, Malarkey, he's the opposite of the Biden Malarkey.

1894
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 3: He's the good Malarkey.

1895
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 2: Luke. That was some like Anderson silver Rich Franklin Muay

1896
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 2: Thai shit going on there. To set that up.

1897
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 3: Right, No, not really. It was more about sort of

1898
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 3: pressing the action. But he was getting pieced up a

1899
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 3: little bit at range. He just found a way to

1900
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 3: take over the fight. It was impressive.

1901
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 2: Look at that. Look at the replay. Well, look at this, Luke.

1902
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 2: That is oh wow, that's some plum control.

1903
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 1: Luke.

1904
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 3: All right, it was good, but the probably mean to

1905
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 3: be Anderson Silva Rich Franklin. You'd have to pull him,

1906
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,600
Speaker 3: turn them, reposition him. Yeah, not just hit him and

1907
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 3: let him go.

1908
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, here's your KO of the weekend, Douglas's

1909
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 2: Silva de Andre against Guytano Perrillo. I mean you could

1910
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 2: not script a better look and finish. Wow.

1911
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't understand the choice of uh sort of

1912
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 3: like switch step kick there because he did it right

1913
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:27,640
Speaker 3: in punching range, so he just got clipped walking in.

1914
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 1: It was weird.

1915
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,560
Speaker 3: This dude's athletic as fucked by the way, Yeah, this

1916
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 3: dude's This dude's back is like a fucking turtleshell of muscle.

1917
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 3: I could not believe how breacked up he was.

1918
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 2: It's very Glease and TeaBot like Lucas. It's rare you

1919
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 2: get that in motion in air knockout. But let's get

1920
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 2: let's focus on the celebration. Luke, is this disrespectful to

1921
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 2: try the backflip where you land basically land on your

1922
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 2: opponent like that's some Uh?

1923
01:28:54,520 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean these guys, aren't you know, what

1924
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 3: are you gonna do?

1925
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 2: I mean he would have cut it. If he would

1926
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 2: have torn his ACL there, you would have laughed. Right.

1927
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 3: Well, here's my rule on this. If y'all wanted to

1928
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 3: do the celebrations where you do flips and you know,

1929
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 3: you want to get some clout for the GRAM, that's fine.

1930
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 3: But when you tear your fucking ACL and you're no

1931
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,760
Speaker 3: longer the same after this, I don't feel bad for you.

1932
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 1: I'll put it that way.

1933
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 2: It's very Gus Farat headbutting the wall at RFK. Right,

1934
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 2: you got that reference.

1935
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 1: Right, I know that one yet.

1936
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 2: All right, here's the celebration I can get behind. Middleweight

1937
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 2: Christoph Jockco, following his split decision, went over Misha serking off. Look,

1938
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 2: it's like a breaking two electric boogleoo style right here.

1939
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is some breakdance b boys shit right here?

1940
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 1: Good look at that. Lord, that's me. That's me after

1941
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 1: the Taco bell drive through right there.

1942
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 2: Whow all right, hey, Luke, let's put some closure on

1943
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 2: that aspen lad situation you mentioned. Misha Tate called her

1944
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 2: ound QUI blow this up in each It's one thing

1945
01:29:57,760 --> 01:29:59,719
Speaker 2: to miss wigh, that's another thing to try and cheat

1946
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 2: the and use every excuse in the book to not

1947
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 2: weigh in properly. Everyone saw you cheat, and you still

1948
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 2: came in a pound over. I bet you were every

1949
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 2: bit of one point thirty nine. Luke, that's some murking

1950
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 2: going on right there.

1951
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 3: Damn she was harsh. I was surprised at how harsh

1952
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 3: she was, but yeah, she let her have it.

1953
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you're not pulling any punches there. That's like here,

1954
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 2: let me piss on you in your open wound. Wow,

1955
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 2: all right, let's keep it going. Speaking of open wounds, Luke, Hey, look,

1956
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 2: I'm sorry this blew up the internet. Here's John Jones's

1957
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 2: reaction kissing his longtime girlfriend and then sticking his tongue

1958
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 2: out at the haters. Luke, this was not received well

1959
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 2: by by the MMA Twitter universe. Your thoughts.

1960
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 3: I have more on this in odds and ends, but

1961
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 3: for right now, I'll just say I'll call it disturbing.

1962
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, here's the deal. One of my favorite fighters,

1963
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 2: she called it a career, the great betch Koheya, Luke.

1964
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 2: Unfortunately we did not see this dance after Carol Hosa

1965
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 2: badly pieced her up with knees. But Luke, I'm gonna

1966
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 2: pour one out for the Great betch Pitbull Correa just

1967
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 2: the same. And let's relive some of her fantastic This

1968
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 2: is the This is the gyrating she did after beating

1969
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:13,759
Speaker 2: sejar Ubanks in Mexico back in twenty eighteen.

1970
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 1: Luke. Luke.

1971
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,600
Speaker 3: Also, also, look, there's a nineteen seventeen ad on the Ocagon.

1972
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:20,639
Speaker 2: That's that's my shit right there, Luke. Okay, I mean

1973
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 2: that's great. And do you remember her initial dance after

1974
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 2: beating you Banks in that same fight. Let's relive the

1975
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 2: memories here, Luke. I mean, she's just unabashedly herself. You know, nobody,

1976
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 2: nobody puts that much love into what they do. I

1977
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 2: can respect that. I can get behind the Hey. DC

1978
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 2: called her a pioneer and then he pulled the microphone

1979
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 2: away from her after the fight when she was trying

1980
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:49,920
Speaker 2: to say goodbye to the fans. Luky, you see that.

1981
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know what she was a pioneer of,

1982
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 3: but uh, I mean, I guess you could say women's

1983
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 3: Brazilian mma too.

1984
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 1: In extent, she gave us.

1985
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 2: A lot of weird moments in the cave, and I

1986
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 2: salute her for that.

1987
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, yes, I would agree with that, and lots

1988
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 3: of shaking her dairy air.

1989
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 2: Yes, which which in your household? That's that's that's.

1990
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:13,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's accepted, and frankly it's expected.

1991
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,120
Speaker 2: Luke's celebrity boxing from South Florida. No rittick bow. But

1992
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:21,520
Speaker 2: lamar Odom came out with his nine inch reach advantage

1993
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,639
Speaker 2: and he put it on j Lo's ex husband. No,

1994
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 2: not a rod No, not Mark Anthony, that other guy.

1995
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 1: Uh.

1996
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:33,799
Speaker 2: For however long this fight lasted unanimous decision, Luke, your.

1997
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 3: Thoughts, well, she clearly has great judgment in men.

1998
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 1: Born winners, all of them.

1999
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 2: Paully Melanaji on the undercard, by the way, took a

2000
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 2: decision over Corey b the TikToker and radio host who

2001
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 2: who clowned him and Pauli said afterwards, Luke, he impressed me.

2002
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 2: I had to work a lot harder than I thought

2003
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 2: I would have. I couldn't find any footage of that

2004
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 2: fight online, though, So this is what you get.

2005
01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 3: I want to talk shit because I love Paulie, but

2006
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:01,600
Speaker 3: it's like, if you're if you're if you're going up

2007
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 3: against decisions against TikTokers, that's.

2008
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:08,560
Speaker 2: Fair, that's fair, you know?

2009
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2010
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 2: All right, hey, Luke, t shirt of the week time.

2011
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 2: Check out what they caught this guy wearing in the airport.

2012
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 2: Can we blow that up?

2013
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 1: Look at the kid behind him, He's like, what the fuck?

2014
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 2: Kids like, mommy? Was he there? On January sixth? I

2015
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 2: think I saw this guy on TV. That's great.

2016
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:28,600
Speaker 1: Wow, this is the guy that put his feet up

2017
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 1: on Pelosi's desk for sure.

2018
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 2: Yes, it was, Luke. Time for your favorite segment of

2019
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 2: the week. Rate my tat We start off with Aerol

2020
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 2: Spence Junior, the unbeaten unified welterweight champion. Can we blow

2021
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 2: this up going full on lions only Charlo style here?

2022
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 3: Uh, it's a well done tattoo and they got the

2023
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:50,600
Speaker 3: negative good negative spacing there instead of using white to

2024
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:54,639
Speaker 3: create color. I mean that's a that's a I'll say

2025
01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:56,479
Speaker 3: this again. If you're gonna dislike tattoos, you have to

2026
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 3: disliked the artistic concept, which I don't like the artistic concept.

2027
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 3: But if you're asking about like the application of the

2028
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 3: tattoo needle to the skin and the way in which

2029
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 3: it was brought to life, this is very high level.

2030
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 2: That's actually think about it. You know, in boxing or mma,

2031
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:13,120
Speaker 2: you don't really have a uniform short of your you know,

2032
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 2: shorts or trunks, but like using a tattoo as a uniform,

2033
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:17,879
Speaker 2: that's pretty badass.

2034
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 1: Luke Also is his kid's name similar to mine? Go

2035
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:21,759
Speaker 1: to the bottom.

2036
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 3: I see a violette there bottom right, Look Viole or

2037
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 3: violet Violet.

2038
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 2: Call it in the States Luke Violet. Yeah, Violet, you're

2039
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:32,519
Speaker 2: turning violet violet?

2040
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, all right, Luke number two.

2041
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:38,720
Speaker 2: Check out this popeye tat your thoughts.

2042
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 1: Not a great tattoo is creative? Just you know? And

2043
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 1: why is his spinach the color of fucking slime? Like?

2044
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 1: I mean, what are we doing here?

2045
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 2: I mean, Luke, what do we don't as men?

2046
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 1: Like?

2047
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:54,799
Speaker 2: Why do we even have these nipples?

2048
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 1: Right?

2049
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 2: You might as well use it as part of your

2050
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 2: your tat gag? Right?

2051
01:34:58,160 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, why don't you get that? How about that?

2052
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 2: All right? Hey, Luke, it's it's Halloween time, so head

2053
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 2: to your local spirit. Can we blow this up? This

2054
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 2: looks a little X rated to me. And on this, Luke, that.

2055
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 1: Kude I got a Halloween I have a Halloween store

2056
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 1: just like this one.

2057
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 2: Look at the package on that guy. If you look closer,

2058
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 2: you'll see how gross this really is.

2059
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 1: Luke, Oh yeah, I do see it. Yeah, he's got Yeah,

2060
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 1: he's got a hose in his pants?

2061
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 2: Is that Halloween fourteen? Is there a new Halloween out there? Now?

2062
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:27,599
Speaker 2: New movie?

2063
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 3: Yes, there is with Jamie Lee Curtis. They just can't

2064
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 3: kill this fucking guy.

2065
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:30,720
Speaker 1: Huh?

2066
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 2: Will you go see that in the theater?

2067
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:34,440
Speaker 1: In the theater? No?

2068
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 2: No, okay, all right, hey, Luke, let's go over to

2069
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:41,200
Speaker 2: the UK. They had a sports festival and GSP showed

2070
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 2: up to surprise Habib via rear naked.

2071
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 3: By the way, this sports festival was the Arnold and

2072
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:51,799
Speaker 3: it was the Arnold UK Sports Fest. It had Arnold

2073
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 3: and Sylvester Stallone there together with of course Habib, Saint Pierre.

2074
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:56,599
Speaker 1: And some other ones. Big bit.

2075
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 3: By the way, Eddie Hall was one of the co

2076
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 3: promoters along with Arnold Schwarzenegger, the guy your kid is

2077
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:02,800
Speaker 3: obsessed with.

2078
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:06,160
Speaker 2: Yes, my kids, one of my sons loves Arnold movies. Yeah.

2079
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:08,760
Speaker 2: But Luke, did this? Do you lament seeing this fun

2080
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 2: and games because we didn't get this fight, you know,

2081
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 2: a year and a half ago when we probably should have.

2082
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 1: No, I don't care about that, all.

2083
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:17,720
Speaker 2: Right, fun fun doing this with you. Hey, let's go

2084
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:20,720
Speaker 2: to amateur kickboxing. Here's some spinny shit gone wrong. Check

2085
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 2: this out, Luke.

2086
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 1: Oh no, oh dude, this is what I'm telling you.

2087
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 3: Man, a couple of times you're bored on a weekend,

2088
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:33,040
Speaker 3: just see if there are some regional fights and the

2089
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 3: amount of fucking donkery that you're gonna see.

2090
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 2: We've said it before. If you go to a bellator

2091
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:40,760
Speaker 2: card like at the Mohegan or whatever, they tend to

2092
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:44,120
Speaker 2: have post limbs. They have local fighters come on after

2093
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 2: the main event ends, and Luke, people get splattered, bro

2094
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 2: I mean they get knocked the hell out.

2095
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is this is what regional mma

2096
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 3: in this case, tie boxing is all about.

2097
01:36:57,680 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 2: I mean this guy, look you see the ghost come

2098
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 2: a lot of him when he hit. Wow. Hey, Luke,

2099
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 2: I know you're a bigger fan of testifying in front

2100
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 2: of the congregation. So let's go to a bare knuckle

2101
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 2: circle in Russia. Watch this, Luke.

2102
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 3: Oh god, he just gets timed right over the top

2103
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 3: of that jab Jesus.

2104
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:22,559
Speaker 2: Oh no, Wow, I think he saw the light. He's

2105
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:23,800
Speaker 2: reaching for the Lord. Luke.

2106
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:26,600
Speaker 3: Right, this was me trying to ask a question to

2107
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:31,800
Speaker 3: John Jones's how it went right there? I did, I

2108
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:34,240
Speaker 3: did less reaching out to the sky, but everything else

2109
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 3: looks about the same.

2110
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 2: Luke.

2111
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 3: Actually, actually to watch this. Actually, I can walk you

2112
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 3: through this real quickly. He resets, he brings his feet together,

2113
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 3: and then as soon as he comes back out, you

2114
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 3: already know he's reset, right, resets, sticks it out comes,

2115
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 3: gets parry and then comes right over the top.

2116
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 1: He just set himself up for it.

2117
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 2: Basically, Luke, we decided to combine your two favorite things

2118
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:58,679
Speaker 2: together one clip strong man lifting and gender Reveal your thoughts.

2119
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,439
Speaker 3: So he's got an Atlas Stone. I'm sure he's strong

2120
01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:10,960
Speaker 3: as fuck, but just just why there you go and

2121
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 3: you broke your atlastone, you fucking dope.

2122
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're having a girl, Luke.

2123
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 3: Which you know, great, I have a girl. It's amazing.

2124
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:20,600
Speaker 3: But did you have to break your Atlas stone to

2125
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 3: do it?

2126
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:24,720
Speaker 2: Like Kobe and you? He's gonna be a hashtag girl dad,

2127
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:27,759
Speaker 2: so really really excited about that. All right, Luke, diver

2128
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,679
Speaker 2: down time. Let's see some people take falls. First of all,

2129
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:32,680
Speaker 2: this was a self inflicted one. Check out this guy

2130
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 2: at the aquarium tank. What kind of store is this?

2131
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:38,959
Speaker 1: It looks like Mohegan.

2132
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 2: Oh dude, that looks like one of those best fishermen stores.

2133
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:45,120
Speaker 2: You know, they got like the full.

2134
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 3: Sid I don't understand the significance of what we're looking at.

2135
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 3: He just jumps in water.

2136
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the middle of the store. They have like

2137
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 2: a giant aquarium and.

2138
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 1: He just said, fuck it, I'm gonna get in.

2139
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. I'm sure he got ejected instantly there, Luke,

2140
01:38:58,360 --> 01:38:59,719
Speaker 2: But well done. Just the same.

2141
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 1: I love it when you do that they do.

2142
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:04,760
Speaker 2: They do. Let's check out two drunk chicks near the water.

2143
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:05,720
Speaker 2: That's always fun, Luke.

2144
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 1: Oh god, I mean seven white claws deep.

2145
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 2: They consummated their friendship right there. Look that was great.

2146
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah wow, all right, two more for you, Luke. Let's

2147
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:26,759
Speaker 2: head on down under to the rugby pitch. No words

2148
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:27,840
Speaker 2: can describe.

2149
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 3: This how he gets fucking leveled.

2150
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:35,760
Speaker 2: He got all of it, Luke, he got all of it.

2151
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 3: You can say, oh, they didn't target the head because

2152
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 3: the shoulder if you notice, the shoulder kind of.

2153
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 1: Goes to the chest, maybe a little bit above.

2154
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:47,879
Speaker 3: But dude, he left his feet to do it, like boom.

2155
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 1: That is. That is fucking brutal man. That is.

2156
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 3: I mean, if that didn't break something in his chest,

2157
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 3: I don't know how it didn't.

2158
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:59,639
Speaker 2: Remember when Steve Atwater the Broncos stood up Christian Okoye

2159
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:01,600
Speaker 2: with one these type of hits, Luke, and it like

2160
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:04,479
Speaker 2: kind of ended his career. Okoye was never the same

2161
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 2: after that.

2162
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 3: Dude, these I mean, you can get your whole shit

2163
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 3: caved in on this. And by the way, have you

2164
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:13,040
Speaker 3: ever seen like a rugby professional in person? Like they're

2165
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 3: not small people, they're large they're large humans.

2166
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 2: Well, Volkanovsky was one, Luke. Okay, I know you haven't

2167
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:19,639
Speaker 2: been dude.

2168
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 1: He was low level rugby talking high level rugby. High level.

2169
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, I got one more for you in

2170
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 2: the category of stupid human tricks. I call this the

2171
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 2: human bong, bro.

2172
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 1: This is how they do haircuts in third world countries.

2173
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:38,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if this guy's a star or or

2174
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:40,720
Speaker 2: this was ill advised, Luke, but I'm sure he got

2175
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 2: a high.

2176
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 1: Regardless, this is who that's who buys, that's who's gonna

2177
01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:53,400
Speaker 1: buy the drug rug.

2178
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:57,480
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, Luke, yes, yes.

2179
01:40:57,680 --> 01:40:59,600
Speaker 3: That that is that you're asking, like, how many of

2180
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 3: those can we make? Probably like ten, you know, not many.

2181
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 2: There's a few meth lab operators who would like wearing

2182
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:06,240
Speaker 2: it in a trailer park.

2183
01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, can you imagine a doing this then be

2184
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 3: planning to film it, filming it, and then.

2185
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:15,880
Speaker 1: Post like what am I going to wear?

2186
01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 2: Do I wear the white wife beat or the gray one?

2187
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 1: Luke? Oh, that's a good question. I don't know. You

2188
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 1: should go as this guy for Halloween.

2189
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 3: That way, you could just carry a bong through the

2190
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 3: neighborhood and hit it every five blocks, you know, all right, that's.

2191
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:33,000
Speaker 2: The shit, Luke. I hope you enjoyed it. Thank you

2192
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 2: all right?

2193
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 1: Time for odds and ends? Good sort? What do you

2194
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:37,679
Speaker 1: have for your odds and or ends?

2195
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 2: Luke? This long Triller soap opera with Tao Femo Lopez

2196
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 2: Junior and George Camboso's Junior finally officially came to an

2197
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:51,639
Speaker 2: end when after Cambosos refused to really return Triller's phone

2198
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 2: calls or take a flight to Australia for the extra

2199
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 2: four hundred thousand that he was asking to do it

2200
01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 2: after one day change after another, Triller has officially pulled

2201
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:08,519
Speaker 2: out after winning this purse bid Luke and claiming it

2202
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:13,840
Speaker 2: has lost upwards of ten million in promotional money put

2203
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 2: forth already for this recredible fight. So what happens next?

2204
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:21,800
Speaker 2: I believe Eddie Herne and Matrium Sport, which was the

2205
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 2: second highest bidder, will have the opportunity to take the

2206
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:26,760
Speaker 2: fight if they want and put it on his own

2207
01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 2: presumably obviously top rank could jump in if Eddie hearn

2208
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 2: says no and just make it an ESPN fight either way, Luke,

2209
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 2: I've said it before. Even if tayl Female gets more

2210
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:39,480
Speaker 2: money in the long run, it's a bad look for everybody.

2211
01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:41,920
Speaker 2: And if this isn't the nail in the coffin for

2212
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:46,680
Speaker 2: Triller after just some I mean just bizarre, ill advised

2213
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:50,639
Speaker 2: decision making and financial spending. And now, of course new

2214
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:54,320
Speaker 2: Triller head of boxing Thurston Meyer is telling everyone in interviews,

2215
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:57,880
Speaker 2: you know, no more celebrity carnival circus fights. We want

2216
01:42:57,920 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 2: to do real fights, and we want to package them

2217
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:02,680
Speaker 2: with the kind of entertainment that you don't see in

2218
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:05,120
Speaker 2: the boxing game. And we're still gonna put a fight

2219
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:08,439
Speaker 2: at Barclay's on October sixteenth, Luke, for all in contents

2220
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:11,760
Speaker 2: and purposes, this has to be the end of this

2221
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 2: weird soap opera. Would not be the first time in

2222
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 2: boxing someone with money, whether it be fifty cent jay

2223
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 2: Z thought they could just come in and take over.

2224
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:24,639
Speaker 2: I cheered for them if they could do it right,

2225
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:28,720
Speaker 2: but they didn't. It's over, Tayo Fema Lopez is still

2226
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 2: Luke going to have to go on with some form

2227
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 2: of a cambosos mandatory to keep his title. But he

2228
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 2: came out an interviewed to Keith Ideck of Boxing Scene

2229
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 2: this week and said, I really want to fight Josh

2230
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:43,559
Speaker 2: Taylor the undefeated, undisputed champion at one hundred and forty pounds,

2231
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:45,840
Speaker 2: which Luke I think we all agree would be a

2232
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:50,639
Speaker 2: fantastic fight. But here's the interesting part. Lopez says, why

2233
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:53,719
Speaker 2: don't we do it at a catchweight maybe one thirty seven,

2234
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:57,639
Speaker 2: maybe one thirty nine. Since Lopez is the unified champion

2235
01:43:57,680 --> 01:44:00,719
Speaker 2: at lightweight at one thirty five and his want Lucas

2236
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:04,479
Speaker 2: to put all eight world titles on the line in

2237
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:07,719
Speaker 2: one fight, meaning all four at lightweight and all four

2238
01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:11,240
Speaker 2: at junior welterweight. There's a few problems here, Luke. He

2239
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 2: said he was inspired by what Leo Santa Cruz and

2240
01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:16,639
Speaker 2: Gervonte Davis did when they brought together their like interim

2241
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 2: WBA secondary titles. The problems are, you can't do a

2242
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:22,880
Speaker 2: fight at a catchweight and have it b for the

2243
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:25,760
Speaker 2: lightweight tiles. You'd have to do a fight at lightweight

2244
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:28,679
Speaker 2: and have it be for both the one thirty five

2245
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 2: and one forty titles. The other problem is, because of

2246
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:36,840
Speaker 2: the WBC's Genius Franchise Champion, Tail's really no longer considered

2247
01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 2: the WBC champion in most people's eyes because that's the

2248
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:42,599
Speaker 2: title belt that Devin Hainey has I know that Tayoe

2249
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 2: Femo is the Super Chap franchise, Luke, It's bullshit. It's

2250
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:49,639
Speaker 2: all bullshit. Here's the deal, though, I don't think Josh

2251
01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:53,280
Speaker 2: Taylor can make anything below one forty He's a very

2252
01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 2: large junior welterweight, and he's been talking for a while

2253
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:57,960
Speaker 2: about moving up to one forty seven and going after

2254
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:01,040
Speaker 2: Terrence Crawford, who has that very interesting fight coming up

2255
01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:04,040
Speaker 2: in November against Sean Porter. Really, what Tao Femo should

2256
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 2: do is get this Camboso's fight out of the way

2257
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 2: and then officially move up to one forty if Tato's

2258
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:12,120
Speaker 2: not gonna hang around and give Lomachenko the rematch, if

2259
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:14,599
Speaker 2: he's not gonna try to cross the street and make

2260
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:16,840
Speaker 2: the Devin Haney or the Gervonte Davis or the Ryan

2261
01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:19,760
Speaker 2: Garcia fight happen, even though he told us on this show, Luke,

2262
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 2: that it's on them, Okay. I think in this landscape, though,

2263
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:25,559
Speaker 2: both sides have to be willing to make amends, which

2264
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:27,640
Speaker 2: is why, by the way, we're getting Tyson Fury and

2265
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:30,599
Speaker 2: Deontay Wilder on Saturday, even though they fight for different

2266
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 2: promoters and different networks. If you're gonna might as well

2267
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:36,679
Speaker 2: just move up Tayo to one forty. If you fight

2268
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:38,519
Speaker 2: Josh Taylor, we're gonna give you a lot of credit

2269
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 2: and you're gonna have a chance in essentially back to

2270
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:45,200
Speaker 2: back ish fights to become the undisputed champion in two divisions.

2271
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 2: That ain't bad. So enough with this catchway crap talk.

2272
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 2: Get through Camboso's forget trailer ever happened? And luke your

2273
01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:54,760
Speaker 2: interest level on Lopez Taylor. It's gotta be high.

2274
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:56,719
Speaker 1: It's gotta be it's high.

2275
01:45:56,800 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 3: But it's I'm with you, like you still gonna work.

2276
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 3: You got a lot of a lot of work at

2277
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:03,719
Speaker 3: one thirty five, Like I don't.

2278
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:05,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm mad.

2279
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:07,759
Speaker 3: I'm not mad at one forty. I mean, it's fine,

2280
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:10,840
Speaker 3: but it's just seems premature for me. That's my only

2281
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 3: real complaint. But dude, Triller has fucked this up.

2282
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Jesus Christ.

2283
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:18,880
Speaker 3: I mean, the fact is he should have had this

2284
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:22,040
Speaker 3: fight already. He should be barreling down on a second

2285
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:24,439
Speaker 3: fight by now, like well after that one, we should

2286
01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:27,559
Speaker 3: be already back to where we you know, the Triller

2287
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:31,559
Speaker 3: thing is done, back with top rank whatever. They burned

2288
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:35,120
Speaker 3: ten million and they wasted everyone's time. And that comes

2289
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:37,599
Speaker 3: on the heels of trying to put a near sixty

2290
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 3: year old Evander.

2291
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 1: Holyfield in a fight.

2292
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:42,720
Speaker 3: They couldn't even honestly tell the public whether it was

2293
01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:45,320
Speaker 3: an exhibition or professional dude, their.

2294
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 2: Get out, and Luke, by the way, Dan Rayfaiel, former

2295
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 2: ESPN box writer, has his own paid sub stack, so

2296
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 2: I didn't get to read the story, but he teased

2297
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:58,679
Speaker 2: that he's got a letter that Triller is accusing multiple

2298
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 2: networks and promoters have conspiring against them to make sure

2299
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:05,200
Speaker 2: the Lopez fight didn't happen, which is weird, Luke, because

2300
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 2: Top Rank thought Trailler conspired against them to try to

2301
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 2: get the fighters to not come to a deal. So

2302
01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 2: the first bid what happened to begin with. It's just

2303
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:16,120
Speaker 2: a bunch of boxing business bullshit. I know our non

2304
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:19,799
Speaker 2: boxing hardcore fans don't care, but hey, good riddance Triller

2305
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:21,719
Speaker 2: and my where I come from, Luke, Okay, I'm done.

2306
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:22,080
Speaker 2: That's it.

2307
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:26,080
Speaker 1: Good for mine. It's it's the John Jones thing.

2308
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:28,120
Speaker 3: I don't have a lot to say about it other

2309
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 3: than I saw it didn't get a lot of attention,

2310
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 3: and I thought it would be worth just mentioning it here.

2311
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:38,439
Speaker 3: I'm not a psychologist, I am not an expert on

2312
01:47:38,479 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 3: what these things mean. But there was a nine to

2313
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:43,200
Speaker 3: one to one call released. It was the call from

2314
01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:45,000
Speaker 3: the Las Vegas Police.

2315
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:46,640
Speaker 1: It was the nine one call.

2316
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:48,599
Speaker 3: Excuse me, is a nine one call from the hotel

2317
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 3: the night of I should say, the alleged incident between

2318
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:55,800
Speaker 3: John Jones and his wife. You should hear this call.

2319
01:47:56,479 --> 01:48:00,040
Speaker 3: You should hear this call. In the call, the the

2320
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:03,960
Speaker 3: person who is relaying the information to the dispatch is

2321
01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:06,800
Speaker 3: saying things like the woman in question, this would be

2322
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:10,960
Speaker 3: his fiance, refuses to go back upstairs and is visibly

2323
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 3: bloody bloodied. It just takes the pretension, and you know, honestly,

2324
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:16,719
Speaker 3: we don't.

2325
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:18,960
Speaker 1: We don't. I don't know what happened in that room.

2326
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:19,559
Speaker 1: No one does.

2327
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 3: And John is innocent until proven guilty. I want to

2328
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 3: be very clear about that. But if you have not

2329
01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 3: heard the nine to one to one tape, it's available.

2330
01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:27,519
Speaker 3: MMA Fighting has it on their YouTube channel. You should

2331
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:29,599
Speaker 3: hear it. You should hear what they have to say,

2332
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:32,760
Speaker 3: because then there's that thing you posted where John are you?

2333
01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:34,639
Speaker 3: You shared on have you seen this shit? Where John

2334
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:36,800
Speaker 3: is with his wife or again his fiancee, excuse me,

2335
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:40,680
Speaker 3: and they didn't allow he didn't allow any comments on it.

2336
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 3: I don't even think there's any caption to it. And

2337
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 3: he's in there, you know, obviously engagement would ordinarily be

2338
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:50,400
Speaker 3: quite normal marital behavior, and I'm not I want to

2339
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:52,720
Speaker 3: be very careful to like, there's a point where we're

2340
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 3: talking about a serious situation, and then there's a point

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01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:56,800
Speaker 3: where we're going to be getting into the nuts and

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Speaker 3: bolts of their marriage or their relationship, the latter of

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Speaker 3: which I have zero interesting But dude, if you combine

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Speaker 3: the contents of that call, plus the known police report

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01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:09,240
Speaker 3: that was out there, then with this behavior where on

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Speaker 3: social media, I gotta tell you, dude, I went from

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01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:16,479
Speaker 3: being like bothered before to being legitimately disturbed by the

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Speaker 3: whole thing.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: Was it the tongue when John stuck out the tongue

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Speaker 2: at the camera? Like that was just sort of like like,

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01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 2: fuck y'all. And if it's from the standpoint of like

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01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 2: stay out of our business. You know, you don't know

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Speaker 2: the details of our relationship, You're right. We shouldn't be

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01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:34,240
Speaker 2: in your business and we shouldn't really know the details. Unfortunately,

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01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:37,600
Speaker 2: the details came out because of the law in a

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01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 2: long standing downward slide. So when you're gonna end that

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01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:44,040
Speaker 2: with like a tongue out of people, that almost is

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01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 2: just like I'm the villain, I'm the bad guy. Look,

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01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:49,919
Speaker 2: you know, like it just that mixed with the workout

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Speaker 2: video immediately after, with no explanation at like beyond, like

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01:49:56,200 --> 01:49:58,280
Speaker 2: you know, alcohol is the problem. Okay, well I'll just

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Speaker 2: eliminate the alcohol, see, guys, like could be you know,

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01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 2: it's just it was alcohol. It's a problem, you know.

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Speaker 2: Just what do you got to ask yourself? What do

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01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 2: you want at the end of the day, If you're

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01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:08,720
Speaker 2: punders Pak, what do you want? Do I want a

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01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:10,960
Speaker 2: press conference where he cops to everything and comes I

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01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 2: don't really want anything. I don't want that though, I'll

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01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:14,479
Speaker 2: tell you that, Luke, I don't want that.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not dude, Like this whole redemption story. Shit,

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01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:20,080
Speaker 3: you could take that to somebody else. Unless he actually

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Speaker 3: checks himself into a place and gets real help under

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01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:25,439
Speaker 3: real circumstances, everything else doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Again, what happened in that hotel room. I suppose we'll

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Speaker 1: never know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the answer is, but if it

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01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:33,320
Speaker 3: is at least conceivable that he put hands on her,

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01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 3: which it is at least conceivable given the circumstances.

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Speaker 1: And then less than a week.

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Speaker 3: Later, he has a situation where he's kissing her on

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01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:44,360
Speaker 3: camera for social media fodder, where he doesn't allow comments.

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01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:46,759
Speaker 3: I got to tell you that should send a chill

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01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 3: down people's spine. Put me on record as saying I

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01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:52,559
Speaker 3: don't know what it means, but I don't get a

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01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:55,160
Speaker 3: good feeling about it at all whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: So I that's it. That's all I'm willing to say

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01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:00,680
Speaker 2: about it. That's it.

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01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:02,760
Speaker 3: That's all I can say. I've said my piece. That's

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01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:06,240
Speaker 3: all I can say about until there's any further details. Okay, BC, uh,

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01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 3: let's remind the good folks. Hey you should give this

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01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:12,840
Speaker 3: video thumbs up. Hey, you should subscribe. Hey, BC, you

2393
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:15,519
Speaker 3: know we haven't discussed with showtime. Are we going back

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01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:17,160
Speaker 3: to the studio next week?

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01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:19,840
Speaker 2: H There was some talk of that. I'm gonna need

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01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:24,599
Speaker 2: Matthew Snyder, our loving trusted producer who's right now. Him

2397
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:26,800
Speaker 2: and I are French. We're getting look great business wise,

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01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 2: there's no arguing, there's no there's no arguing behind the

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Speaker 2: scenes at all. Look I would love to cement this

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01:51:32,680 --> 01:51:34,639
Speaker 2: because you know it's a it's a it's a big

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Speaker 2: week next week, right, we got it's a big week

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Speaker 2: the bellatour Grand Prix Final four.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 3: It's a big week. So I'll say this thumbs up

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Speaker 3: in the video, like and subscribe. We have tons of

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Speaker 3: content coming your way. We are gonna give you coverage

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01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:53,200
Speaker 3: all week of Wilder Fury three, which, by the way,

2408
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:55,599
Speaker 3: if you're an MMA fan, this is the boxing fight

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01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 3: to watch, right Like Canelo is the one to watch,

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01:51:58,320 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 3: this is the one to watch. These are the one

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01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:03,679
Speaker 3: that you're gonna enjoy no matter what. Amazing boxer versus

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Speaker 3: you know, historic power puncher in a rivalry. What's not

2413
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Speaker 3: to like about it? You should love it. We'll have

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Speaker 3: plenty of coverage for that, but we're not gonna lose

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Speaker 3: sight of all the MMA stuff this week as well,

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Speaker 3: So Paytex.

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Speaker 2: Sure, good Saturday, thank you, thankful. I'm thankful for this.

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Speaker 2: The UFC Fight Night main card, which of course I'm

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Speaker 2: main event of Mackenzie durn versus Marina Hadriguez, which is

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01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:25,519
Speaker 2: a very good fight at at women's strawweight. It'll start

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Speaker 2: at four pm Eastern. Thank you, Combat sporting gods.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, so good, so good.

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Speaker 3: So with that in mind, of course, if you want

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Speaker 3: do have between Twitter and Instagram. One more reminder, one

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Speaker 3: more reminder BC. MK Extra Credit will be out later today.

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Speaker 3: It'll be late in the afternoon whatnot. But for all

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Speaker 3: the little detailed fights that we missed we didn't get

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Speaker 3: to on the show, I'll give you a quick rundown of.

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Speaker 2: That with the hod course, the Hard Course, come on

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Speaker 2: hod course, MK extra Credit. And if you want to

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Speaker 2: get excited for Wednesday show eleven am Eastern, here back

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Speaker 2: on these youtubes. They've said it, they want it, They're

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Speaker 2: gonna get it. Not only is the Wheel of Death

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Speaker 2: back for Wednesday, but your boy BC has cooked up

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Speaker 2: for the second time ever a celebrity wheel of death

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Speaker 2: that includes Luke. Some of the best in the world

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Speaker 2: at what they do. You're not gonna want to miss this.

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Speaker 1: Thank you all right, good, I can't wait. BC.

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Speaker 3: That's it for me, that's it for you, as you've

2449
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 3: been scratching your face like someone who's got some kind

2450
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:52,680
Speaker 3: of psoriasis of the skin, I should say almost acerosa.

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01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:55,799
Speaker 2: Oriasis of the mind. Luke of the of the spirit.

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01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, I want to thank all the good

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Speaker 3: folks that we have. You can go to Morning Coombat

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Speaker 3: for Malka for showtime for CBS Sports, that's Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 3: I'm Luke Thomas and until next time, all of your

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Speaker 3: gains be loyal.

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