1 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind. This is 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Robert Lamb. Joe is away at the moment, but we're 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and slot in a vault episode for today. 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: This is just helping us deal with some some some 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: late summer or at least late summer break um disruptions here, 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: but we're gonna go ahead and play Creature of the Gear. 7 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: This originally published on nine to one. UH. It's an 8 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: interesting look at gears and when did humans invent gears? 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: And also what do we find that are like gears 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: in nature? And we'll even look at a few wheel 11 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: based mythological creatures. Now, don't fret, we're gonna be back 12 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: on Thursday. We should be back on Thursday with a 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: fun interview episode and then we'll be back into the 14 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: regular schedule right after that. So, without further ado, let's 15 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: dive right in. Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind 16 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: production of My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to 17 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: Blow your Mind. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm 18 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: Joe McCormick. Today we're gonna be in a way we're 19 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: continuing on past discussions concerning the wheel Um, also past 20 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: discussions concerning UH like rolling creatures. But we're gonna be 21 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: getting more specifically into the realm of the gear in 22 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: this episode. Now, I have to say, I'm anytime we 23 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: get into one of these discussions, I'm always reminded of 24 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: a few lines from The Omega Man. Uh. In part 25 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: because it's in its own way, it's a weirdly interesting film. Also, 26 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: I probably listened to a bit too much Wide Zombie 27 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: back in high school. Uh, because there's some or maybe 28 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: it's a zombie song that that samples this movie. But 29 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: there's this one wonderful line from Anthony zerve Is character says, 30 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: the creature of the Wheel, the lord of the infernal engines. Um, 31 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: what is he talking about the vampires? Or is he 32 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: talking about about Charlton Heston. He's talking about old Chuck Heston. There, 33 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: he's the This man represents the wheel and the technology 34 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: of the wheel and all the terrible things that we're 35 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: done with it. Um, but wait, I recall the vampires 36 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: using wheeled vehicles. Do they not? Don't they have like 37 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: a sort of zombie mobile. Yeah, I'm not saying it 38 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: makes sense. I'm not saying it's a fair criticism. I'm 39 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: just saying that Anthony Zerva had a really cool voice, 40 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: and uh and when he said these lines, it was like, yeah, 41 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: that sounds cool. I don't know what it means exactly, 42 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: but it sounds pretty cool. You know, it would be 43 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: a really good movie Monster Bug Fight and and both 44 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: are Charlton Heston movies. If you pick the vampires from 45 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: the Omega Man versus the Adam Bomb Cult from the 46 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: second Planet of the Apes movie, you know, they're they're 47 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: pretty similar. I think, pretty similar morbid humanoids. But I 48 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: would like to see them duke it out and Charlton Heston, 49 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: I guess can just watch this time. Yeah, what was 50 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: that beneath the Planet of the Apes? I always like that. 51 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: As far as any eight movies that came after Planet 52 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: of the Apes, that one, that one always appealed to me. 53 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: I'm not sure why. Uh. I remember there's a part 54 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: where they sing a hymn to the atom bomb. You remember, Yep, 55 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: they have just a big old atom bomb in there 56 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: that they worship. I think it's like a minor key 57 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: version of all things bright and beautiful. But it's interesting 58 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: all these things are connected because we're dealing with with 59 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: a human technology and the idea of worshiping the technology, 60 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: being bound to the technology and and the wheel, and 61 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: by virtue of the wheel, gears and machines being this 62 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: thing that is particular to human beings, something that that 63 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: that we have created. It's a part of our various civilizations. 64 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting to think about humans as 65 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: creatures of the wheel empire, because of course there have 66 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: been plenty of cultures and civilizations where the wheel, at 67 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: least in terms of of vehicles, has played no practical role. 68 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: Perhaps it you know, that you had the wheel as 69 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: a toy, perhaps it was used as a spiritual aid 70 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: or device that could serve as a metaphor. But then certainly, 71 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: by the time we get to the you know, the 72 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: age of roads and engines, humanity very visibly becomes a 73 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: people of the wheel. But then, as we'll discussed in 74 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: this episode a little bit, you also get into this 75 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,799 Speaker 1: domain of wheels and gears, of of wheels doing things 76 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: that they don't have have anything directly to do with vehicles, 77 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: but it's all about using the energy of the wheel 78 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: to do other things. And yet at the same time, 79 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: and this also makes me think of the field of biomemetics, 80 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: bioble metics, of course, as when we we say, okay, 81 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: I have an engineering problem. I need to turn to 82 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: the realm of nature for a possible solution, because I've 83 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: only been working on this engineering problem for you know, 84 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: X amount of time. But evolution has been working around 85 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: similar engineering problems just for for millions of years. So 86 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: perhaps we can we can cheat off of nature in 87 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: that regard. But of course, one of the problems is 88 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: that the wheel almost never comes up in nature itself. 89 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: Gears almost never come up in nature, So biomometically, you're 90 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: not going to turn to nature and say, oh, well, 91 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: well there's a there's a solution involving the wheel that 92 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: I might use. Oh let's look and see how this 93 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: particular creature uses rotary blades to fly that sort of thing. Yeah, 94 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, I actually really enjoy thinking about this in 95 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: terms of comparing animal bodies to different types of machines, 96 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: machine components, simple machines, you know, the stuff you learn 97 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: about in those first physics lessons when you're a kid. 98 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: So you know, you know the lever and the inclined 99 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: plane and the and the pulley and the screw and 100 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: all that. And I feel like when you do this exercise. 101 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: There is one type of simple machine that absolutely dominates 102 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: the landscape of biology, and that is the lever. Biology 103 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: is full of levers. I think you could make an 104 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: argument that almost all of the skeletal muscle in our 105 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: bodies is designed by evolution for the operation of levers. 106 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: Maybe there are some exceptions that aren't occurring to me, 107 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: but I would say, if not all of them, almost 108 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: all of them. So, for example, when you use your 109 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: bicep to do an arm curl, you're curling a dumbbell. 110 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: You know, the muscle primarily the bicep. I think also 111 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: somewhat the muscle in your forearm is exerting the effort. 112 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: The load is what's in your hand, it's your your fist, 113 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: and the full crum is the elbow joint, and of 114 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: course the bone is the lever. So I think most 115 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: of the body's gross motor activity is based on the 116 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: action of levers with joints as the fulcrum. Uh. And 117 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: then but then when you start looking for other simple 118 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: machines and animal bodies, you can turn up some examples, 119 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: but it suddenly gets a lot more difficult to scope 120 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: things out. Like you can maybe make the argument that 121 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: sharp teeth and fangs, or a type of wedge which 122 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: is technically a form of the simple machine known as 123 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: the inclined plane. But then there are other types of 124 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: of machines and machine parts that are pretty rare or 125 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: even non existent in nature, and the wheel is a 126 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: good one of these. There there are really only a 127 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: few examples that people can point to of things that 128 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: might be considered freely rotating wheels and axles. In biology, 129 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: sometimes people bring up versions of the bacterial flagella as 130 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: something that sort of operates like a wheel, kind of 131 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: spinning like a propeller to move the bacterium uh through 132 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: through a liquid medium and uh. And then there are 133 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: also I think some possible parts of animal digestive systems 134 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: that may function kind of like a wheel. But animal 135 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: body plans clearly favored the versatility of legs based on 136 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: levers instead of wheels. And you can make a few 137 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: different arguments about why evolution overwhelmingly goes that route. You 138 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: could you could say maybe it has something to do 139 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: with just morphological precedence, like that levers are easier to 140 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: evolve from the pre existing forms that were available for 141 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: animal bodies to work on when in you know, adapting 142 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: through small mutations. But you could also argue that there 143 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: are natural uh, terrain negotiation advantages to levers. You know, 144 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: if you're not in a world of clean paved surfaces, 145 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 1: wheels can actually pretty easily get hung up on things, 146 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: and you need the articulation of levers and limbs in 147 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: order to say, uh, you know, get over rugged terrain, 148 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: or to flip yourself back over if you fall on 149 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: your back. I think it's also telling that when we 150 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: look to the world of mythological creatures and beings, we 151 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: don't see a lot of wheels, or at least we 152 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: don't see a lot of wheels that are innately organic. 153 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: And then if we do, we tend not to see 154 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: a creature or a being that is supposed to be 155 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: of this world. Um and uh. And perhaps there's some 156 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: exception to this rule that I'm overlooking, but I thought 157 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: I might bring up a couple of examples. One and 158 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: I know I've mentioned this this critter on the show before. 159 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: There is a demon by the name of Bure. I 160 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: believe it is b U e R described in Johann 161 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: of Viers fifteen sixty three. Grimore Pseudo Monarchia demonium Um. 162 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: This covers a number of different of supposed demons, and 163 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: this demon Buer is the great President of Hell, kind 164 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: of a goblin faced lion with kind of a wheel 165 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: of five legs going around it, which I find reminiscent 166 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: of the pet rail wheel which I mentioned in a 167 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: previous Artifact episode, an experimental tank wheel that had legs 168 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: on it. Um. So as the wheel turns, the legs 169 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: are are placed down onto the ground. Uh this case, 170 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: they are goat legs, and I've I've read that they're 171 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: supposed to symbolize the demon's ability to move in any direction. 172 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: So I'm not entirely sure that we're even supposed to 173 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: imagine this creature turning like a wheel or like a 174 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: clock or something. But when I look at him, that's 175 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: all I can see. Like he basically moves on the 176 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: page or on the screen when I stare at him, 177 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: and I can imagine I'm kind of lumping around along. 178 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: You know. Well, I tend to think about um when 179 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: wheels are imagined in the imagery of mythology and religion, 180 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: it's often to say something about the fact that the 181 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: vision is boggling the mind. It You know that it's 182 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: transcending familiar forms and just completely awing you and humbling 183 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: you with confusion. Uh. So I think, for example, about 184 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: Ezekiel's vision of the wheels in in in the Hebrew Bible, 185 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: and and how the wheels there. Uh, it seems to 186 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: me at least, I mean, I'm you know, no professional 187 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: legs ag eat on that, but it seems like that 188 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: they symbolize something about a concept that sort of like 189 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: surpasses human understanding. You're looking at something that your mind 190 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: can't even fit around. Yeah, I mean, we can easily 191 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: imagine the various connotations that are being drawn in there 192 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: when you have a wheel like appearing in the sky, 193 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: because you have the idea of technology, something created by 194 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: rational beings. You have the idea of sort of cosmic 195 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: wheels and circular forms related to the movements of the 196 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: stars and the planets and so forth. Uh. And then 197 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: the idea too that if if this is mixed with 198 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: some sort of biological or faintly biological or hybrid form, 199 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: that that is again something that is not reflected in nature. 200 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: It is something there is something inherently unnatural about this, 201 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: this hybrid being that is not even just part animal 202 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: and part human or part of this animal and part 203 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: that animal, but part flesh being and part cosmic or 204 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: technological entity. Now then again, in nature and biology, you 205 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: do find all kinds of round mechanism and round bodies 206 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: and even rolling forms. You know, lots of animals can 207 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: roll up into a round shape and then roll their 208 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: whole body. What you what really seems to be unusual 209 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: in nature, And again maybe you can only find a 210 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: few examples here and there that would seem to fit. 211 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: This is a freely rotating wheel that somehow transfers energy 212 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: within a broader context. So like the wheel and axle 213 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: on a car that moves the car body the car, 214 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, the chassiss stationary and then the wheel turns 215 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: to propel it forward. That's what you really don't find 216 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: much of in nature. But if you're content with just 217 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: like something round that rolls, you can have a wheel 218 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: spider rolling down a dune. You can have bugs that 219 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: roll up into round shapes and roll all over the place. 220 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: Even some mammals do that. Yeah, there are some examples 221 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: of creatures that that form rolling shapes, granted if the 222 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: topography is correct. Uh. There's also, of course, the example 223 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: of goat poop I've seen brought up. Granted, goat poop 224 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: is not itself alive, but it is the product of 225 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: of a biological organism. And the idea here is that 226 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: the goat poop is nice and rounds so that it 227 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: can roll away and hide itself. Uh in these kind 228 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: of environments. But I advocate for goat poop personhood, okay, um. 229 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: But but of course, one of the things about any 230 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: of these rolling creatures is, of course, if it's gonna roll, 231 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: it's everything's gonna roll. There's not gonna be a stationary 232 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: part all of the rolling creature as in the same 233 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: way that say, there would be the cart portion of 234 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: an ox cart would remain the same. Uh. But when 235 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: we look to some of our supernatural models, we do 236 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 1: see things that work like this, of course in a 237 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: very supernatural form. Uh. There's a wonderful wheel creature in um. 238 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: In Japanese traditions, there's a yokai known as one you know, 239 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: the fire wheel, and he's a he's a pretty famous yokai. 240 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: You've you've probably seen images of him, especially if you 241 00:13:54,080 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: partake of various like anime um products, because he pops 242 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: up in a lot of things. I think he pops 243 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: up in some video games as well. He looks like 244 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: a grumpy, giant human head sort of haloed by a burning, 245 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: smoking ghost wheel, and we get the impression that the 246 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: wheel is moving in the head is remaining stationary. He 247 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: said to guard the gates of Hell, and I've also 248 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: read that in life he said to have been a 249 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: cruel ruler who burned people on the wheel, so this 250 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: is kind of his punishment. He haunts them the roads 251 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: at night. He made drag souls back to Hell. And 252 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: there's also a female variation called Catawaga. Okay, so this 253 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: would seem to be more like that mechanism you don't 254 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: really find in nature, if the head stays stationary while 255 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: the wheel turns around it right. And of course in 256 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: this too we have just a it's not even pretending 257 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: to be an entirely organic creature. It is this supernatural 258 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: um combination of two or three different things. Um. But yeah, 259 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: this is a pretty popular figure. The Power Rangers have 260 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: even fought him on occasion. Um shows up in very 261 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: his anime titles, and I have to say sometimes he 262 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: looks a little bit like Dr robot Nick from The 263 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: Sonic games. So I wonder if Dr Robotnick was at 264 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: all inspired by this Yokai you know, a grumpy faced 265 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: man machine with kind of a spherical design. Because Dr 266 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: Robotnick is he's the Eggman, you know, so he's often 267 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: in some kind of little like little circular pod. Why 268 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: do I want to say that the the Dr Robotnick 269 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: was supposed to be based on the appearance of Theodore Roosevelt. 270 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm talking about? He does look 271 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: like Theodore Roosevelt. Yeah, so that might be it instead. 272 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. I couldn't. I briefly looked around. I 273 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: couldn't find anything that connected at Dr Robotnick. There's not 274 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: a lot of scholarship on Dr Robotnick, it seems unless 275 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: I'm missing it. And if I am missing it, please 276 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: send it to me. I want to read your your thesis, Okay. 277 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: Our new podcast is an oral history of Dr Robotnick. Um, 278 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: now there's a there's another throw some I am the Walrus, 279 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: and some Teddy Roosevelt and little Blender and then there 280 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: you go, oh, yeah, there's definitely a It seems like 281 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: there's definitely a Beatles connection there as well. Now, um, 282 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: I was I was reading about this, particularly Yokai, and 283 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: there's one more little story I ran across it. I 284 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: have to share. This was I found this on Matthew Myers. 285 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: Yokai dot com has a profile of when Udo and 286 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: shares a brief story that I haven't found anywhere else. 287 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: But it's it's too good not to share, and I'm 288 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: probably just missing accounts of it elsewhere. But quoting this website, 289 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: one famous story from Kyoto tells a woman who peeked 290 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: out her window at one Udo as he passed through town. 291 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: The demon snarled at her, saying, instead of looking at me, 292 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: have a look at your own child. She looked back 293 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: at her baby, who was screaming on the floor in 294 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: a pool of blood. Both of its legs had been 295 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: completely torn from its body. When she looked back out 296 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: at one Udo, that child's legs were in its mouth, 297 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: being eaten by the mad, grinning monster. What so it 298 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: did he teleport that? I don't Okay, yeah, yeah, I 299 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: don't know. He's eating those baby legs. He's a bad dude. 300 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: That that's a bad dude. So anyway, I'll stop there 301 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: with my wheel creatures. But this suffice to say, just 302 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: just bringing these up to drive home the fact that 303 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: that I think we we have long not expected to 304 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: find wheels and gears in the natural world. They are 305 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: things of our creation. We are the people of the wheel, 306 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: well especially the gear. So that that was my original 307 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: idea for the episode, was to focus on the idea 308 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: of artificial gears versus possible examples of gears in nature. 309 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: And while you can make arguments for a few examples 310 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: of wheels in nature, the gear is really a different 311 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: kind of story, except for this one really cool example 312 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: that we're gonna be looking at today. So what is 313 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: a gear? Well, you've seen gears before, but to actually 314 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: define the concept what counts as a gear, I think 315 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: I think you could say a gear is a set 316 00:17:55,320 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: of rotating machine parts with interlocking teeth. So these can 317 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: often take the form of a kind of flat circular plate, 318 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: but they can also take the form of, say like 319 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: a long shaft that has teeth on the shaft, or 320 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: they can even be non circular. There are more kind 321 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: of square shaped gears and gears of all different kinds 322 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: of shapes and sizes, but what's common to all of 323 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: them is that they have teeth that interlock with each other, 324 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: and they use those teeth and rotation to transfer force 325 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: rotational force known as torque, So they can transfer torque 326 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: from one place to another, and they can also sometimes 327 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: transform that force in some way as it is transferred. 328 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: So gears can change the direction of rotational force. Like 329 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,479 Speaker 1: if you picture two interlocking wheel shaped gears, you rotate 330 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: one of them clockwise, will actually rotate the other one counterclockwise, 331 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: so that'll that'll perform one kind of change. Or you 332 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: can change the orientation of the torque by having the 333 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: gears interlock at an angle. So think of for example, well, 334 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: how if you imagine a car that has the engine 335 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 1: sending its rotational force its torque through a drive shaft 336 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: that runs along the length of the car, then that 337 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: energy has to be transferred to the wheels to get 338 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,479 Speaker 1: them rotating in the direction that's parallel to the car's motion. 339 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: So there are gears that interlock at angles there to 340 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: transfer that force eventually to the wheels. But gears can 341 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: also be used to gain mechanical advantage or change the 342 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: speed of a rotational force in a mathematically predictable way. So, 343 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: for example, if you use a bigger gear with more 344 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: teeth to spin a smaller gear with fewer teeth. The 345 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: smaller gear will spin faster than the larger one, and 346 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: the change in speed will be proportional to the ratio 347 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: of the tooth counts between the two differently sized gears. 348 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: In other words, if you use a gear to drive 349 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: a second gear with half as many teeth as the 350 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: first gear, it will spin exactly twice as fast. To 351 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: a certain extent, it almost feels like like wheel wizardry, 352 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: because the wheel is doing its thing and and and 353 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: if you're not going to do anything else, you can Okay, 354 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: you can do various tasks and carry out various acts 355 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: by interacting with that wheel on its terms. But by 356 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: the use of gears, you can transform it. You can 357 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: you can make the gear work in other ways. Um, 358 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: and I think that's that's one of the fascinating things. 359 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: So when we're when we're talking about sort of that 360 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: lead from from wheel to gear, and of course, and 361 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: this could be just as simple as well. I don't 362 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: want horizontal rotation, I want vertical rotation, that sort of thing, right, 363 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: But it can also this last thing I mentioned about 364 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: the predictable mathematical relationships between the intervals of rotation of 365 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: tooth to gears. The fact that toothed gears are quantized 366 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: right that you can like put a number to the 367 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: number of teeth on a rotation that allows you to 368 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: tightly control the ratios you know, how fast one spins 369 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: in relationship to another one. That actually has made gears 370 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: useful not just for say, applying force to things like 371 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, powering a machine or something, but also for 372 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: tasks related to more abstract types of work, like measurements 373 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: such as measuring intervals of time UM, and not just 374 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 1: in straightforward timekeeping devices like clocks. Of course, gears are 375 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: very important in in UM analog clocks, but even more 376 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: complex applications like we see in one of the most 377 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: intriguing artifacts from the ancient world, known as the Antiquothera mechanism, 378 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: which is widely considered the first known computer not a 379 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: digital computer, but an analog computer, a computer that uses 380 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: gears instead of semiconductors for information processing. UH. The Antikothera 381 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: mechanism was discovered in a Roman era shipwreck in the 382 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: Mediterranean around the r nineteen hundred UH, and this shipwreck 383 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: traced back to a ship that sank probably in the 384 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: first since chere ce rob. I've got an image for 385 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: you to look at here that shows the actual remains 386 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: of the mechanism alongside a modern reconstruction that was sort 387 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: of reverse engineered and built by some experts who had 388 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: studied this machine. The mechanism is now understood to have 389 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: been an ancient mechanical or ory. An oorory is a 390 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: is a working model of the movement of heavenly bodies, 391 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: and this one would have been powered by a hand 392 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: crank that operated gears. And this or ory would allow 393 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: you to calculate the relative positions of heavenly bodies like 394 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: the Moon and the Sun as they traveled through the 395 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: zodiac out to specific future dates. Uh. And I think 396 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: it may it may also have tracked planetary motion as well, 397 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: but that's less certain. I think that's a hypothetical mechanism 398 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: that may have been present but may have been lost. 399 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: When I look at it, I'm instantly reminded of those uh, 400 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: those gear devices you find at museums and zoos where 401 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: you and squash a penny and make it into a 402 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: collector's token, which which I have to say, as as 403 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: a parent, I have I have long realized the children 404 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: are drawn to these like like flies. Uh. To to 405 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: meet they they have to turn the crank. They have 406 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: to watch those gears operate. Um and uh and And 407 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: now that we've actually discussed gears a bit on the show, 408 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: I used to be I was. I've long been very 409 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: annoyed by it, like, oh, come on, don't mess with that. 410 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: We're here to look at something else, and you're just 411 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 1: gonna turn this gear on this machine that I'm not 412 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: going to give you fifty cents and a penny for 413 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: because it's it's a dumb invention. But at the same 414 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: time they're interacting with the gears, they're getting to see 415 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: the gears in motion and see some of that energy 416 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: transference that we're talking about. Oh well, I mean yeah, 417 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful way. Actually, I think to educate kids 418 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: about mechanical advantage, about like what machines can do. Because 419 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: the kid, they know that they wouldn't have enough strength 420 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: to smash a penny flat with their hands alone, but 421 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: with their hands by operating a rank in a machine 422 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: that has no external power source. It's just the power 423 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: of their arm. But through the mechanical advantage created by 424 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: this crank, the lever of the gears. They can smash 425 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: a penny. That that's kind of that's that's empowering knowledge 426 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: that there's a wizardry to that too. Behold the power 427 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: of the gear. But anyway back to the antikotherum mechanism. 428 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: So it was able to predict the future movements of 429 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: heavenly bodies like the Sun and the moon, and also 430 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: I think predict eclipses. And it managed the different time 431 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: ratios between these these moving objects in the heavens by 432 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: the use of gear ratios, gear ratios to calculate the 433 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: intervals of these movements. So in a way, this was 434 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: a calculator the different ratios between the number of teeth 435 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: on the gears. We're doing math for you now. We 436 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: know in the modern world gears are useful in all 437 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: kinds of machines. You find them everywhere. They're in clocks, 438 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: they're in cars, they're in fluid pumps, they're in mills 439 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: and factory machines. Uh. But but you might wonder, okay, well, 440 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: where did they first appear in the technological space, Because 441 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: you wouldn't necessarily expect to have found a computer for 442 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: astronomical phenomena in the first century ce but here it 443 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: is and probably actually it's even older than that. I 444 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: think it's believed to have been uh. I don't know, 445 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: maybe at least a hundred years old at the time 446 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: it was lost in the shipwreck, so so clearly that 447 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: that's taking gear math way way back. UH. And I 448 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: was trying to find some good sources on the ancient 449 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: history of gears. I didn't come across anything that was 450 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: super recent, so there may be discoveries since these sources 451 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: I turned up, but um one that was interesting to 452 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: me because it was by Derek John Desola Price, who 453 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: was a British physicist and historian of science who was 454 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: one of the investigators who worked on the Antiko theorem mechanism. UH. 455 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: He did a chapter that was in a book put 456 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,719 Speaker 1: out by the U. S National Museum Bulletin in nineteen 457 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: fifty nine called on the origin of clockwork perpetual motion 458 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: devices in the Compass, and in a short section on 459 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: the earliest known examples of gears and geared mechanisms, he 460 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: writes that the earliest evidence for the knowledge of tooth 461 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: to gears um. Probably it goes back at least as 462 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: far as the Greek mathematician and inventor Archimedes, who showed 463 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: clear knowledge of of toothed gears, and he lived in 464 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: the third century BC. But he also cites artifacts from 465 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: ancient China that may indicate knowledge of of gears even 466 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: farther back than that. He writes, quote, in China, actual 467 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: examples of wheels and molds for wheels dating back from 468 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: the fourth century BC have been preserved. One of the 469 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: interesting things he mentioned about some of these earliest examples 470 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: of gears in the archaeological record. Uh. He says, quote, 471 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: a remarkable feature in these early gears is the use 472 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: of ratchet shaped teeth, sometimes even twisted heliically so that 473 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: the gears resemble worms into or meshing on parallel axles. 474 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: But then he also calls attention to the fact that 475 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: throughout much of history, uh, you know, definitely before the 476 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 1: Industrial Revolution, a big use of a lot of a 477 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: major use for gears in the technological space was in mills, 478 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: in windmills and water mills, using large gears as a 479 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: way of transferring force, often at a right angle to 480 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: how these natural forces like the flow of water or 481 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: the flow of wind. We're we're moving the primary turban yeah, 482 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: or likewise to transition from say a horizontal paddle wheel 483 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: into a vertical millstone, that sort of thing. Yeah. Yeah, 484 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: Now another paper that you you turned up on. This 485 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: comes to us from M. J. T. Lewis Gearing in 486 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: the Ancient World, published in Endeavor seventy seventeen, number three 487 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: from UM and I was reading through this one. This 488 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: was pretty interesting. I'm going to be some slight retreading 489 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: of what we're vary discussed, but basically, according to this 490 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: paper we can trace the technology of of the gear 491 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: to ancient Greeks of the third century b c. Which 492 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: also according to um uh To Fagan at all in 493 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: uh the seventy Great Inventions of the Ancient World. Uh. 494 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: You know this is this is also the time and 495 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: place where we see, at least according to ancient Greek 496 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: and Latin technical authors, the birth of water powered milling uh, 497 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: a technology that of course would be highly effective. But 498 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: according to to uh To Lewis, here in Alexandria, the 499 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: Greek kings of Egypt at the time the Ptolemy's, they 500 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: set up a research center called the Museum. I think 501 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: we've talked about the Museum in the past, right, perhaps 502 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: even in our episode the invention of the museum about 503 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: the sort of the original usage of this word that 504 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: sounds familiar, Yeah, yeah, So basically, various technological innovations were 505 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: said to have emerged from this this sort of lab 506 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: this kind of technological think tank and laboratory. Uh and, 507 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: according to such writers as hero Vitruvius and Phillow of Byzantium, 508 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: they all point to the work of Descibius, who would 509 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: have lived to five through two twenty two b c E. 510 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: None of his actual writings survived, but he's said to 511 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: have written various works on compressed air and hydraulics, and 512 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: hero Vitrucius and Philo would all go on to write 513 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: at length on these various machines and uh and and devices, 514 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: various gear arrangements. Other great minds of that age and region, 515 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: such as Archimedes, would also expand on these ideas as well. Now, 516 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: Lewis explains that we ultimately don't know where and when 517 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: the earliest gears pop up in human history UH tooth gears, 518 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: he writes, already existed in the form of ratchet wheels 519 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: that were used to hold a windlass against a load, 520 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: and these might date back to Greek crane innovations from 521 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: around five b c. E um. He He also points 522 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,239 Speaker 1: that a bronze example of this has been found from 523 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: about a century later, and this might have been used 524 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: for hauling ships up a slipway. After this point, ratchets 525 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: were widely used on catapults as a way of holding 526 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: back all that potential firing energy. Um. But he writes, quote, 527 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: but the first toothed wheel for transmitting motion may have 528 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: been a sprocket wheel driving a chain. This is attested 529 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: by two machines described by Philo. One is a chain 530 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: of buckets powered by a water wheel. The other is 531 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: a repeater catapult built in roads by certain Dionysius of Alexandria, 532 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: who cannot be precisely identified, but may have well worked 533 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: before two eighty two b c. E. So the Greeks 534 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: and the Romans obviously applied the subsequent technology to a 535 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: number of tasks. But but Lewis raises the question did 536 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: they invent all of this themselves or did they borrow 537 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: or pick up on the ideas of others, And he 538 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: writes that one possibility would be the they somehow got 539 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: these ideas from China. In fact, he writes this would 540 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: be seemingly the only other alternative. UM. However, one of 541 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: the limiting factors here is that accounts of the gear 542 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: in China largely come later, from the first century CE, 543 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: but he writes, quote the only earlier examples in China 544 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: so far recorded, and I do want to stress this 545 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: was like UM are a number of very small bronze 546 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: gears and ratchets found in tombs and dating from around 547 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: two b c E to fifty C. They include extraordinarily 548 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: what looked like chevron or double helical gear wheels of 549 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: tiny size. All seemed too small and too early to 550 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: belong as has been suggested to windlasses for drawing crossbows, 551 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: and we have no idea what they were for gear mystery. 552 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: And I include of uh images of these uh, these 553 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: mysterious gears below. So yeah, I haven't haven't had a 554 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: lot of time to investigate further to see if any 555 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: additional scholarship has emerged on these little gears and what 556 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: they might have been used for UM. And I don't 557 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: know if if ultimately there are stronger arguments that have 558 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: been put put forth regarding their use or possible use 559 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: and crossbow technology. But it's fascinating Oh, one of these 560 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: pictures you attached. I wonder if this is what Derek J. 561 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: To sell a Price was referring to when talking about 562 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: ratchet shaped teeth that are twisted helickally so that they 563 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: look like worms intermeshing on parallel axles. That I can 564 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: see at least one of the images you include from 565 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: the Chinese example could could be what he's talking about there. Yeah, 566 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: that's where my mind went when you read that that debt. 567 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: Having having looked at these examples, Yeah, it has kind 568 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: of a worm like quality to it. Um. Now, Ultimately, 569 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: Lewis and his writing, he contends that gearing was either 570 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: invented independently in China and in the Greek world, or 571 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: that it was actually transmitted from the West to the 572 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: East rather than vice versa. But but, but, like I said, that, 573 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: there may be additional scholarship that we just haven't come 574 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: across yet regarding this. But it does raise the question 575 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: what kind of gears would one be entombed with? You know, what, 576 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: what bit of technology would it make sense to to 577 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: to go to the grave with. I mean, certainly a 578 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: very nice crossbow seems like the sort of thing you 579 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: might bring with you. Um, I don't know if it 580 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: would make sense for there to be some sort of 581 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: like purely novelty gear device, like something that was more 582 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: of a curio that maybe wasn't fully utilized or you know, 583 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: analog computer. Yeah, it could be. I guess if your 584 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: journey in the afterlife really depends on knowing when an 585 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: eclipse is coming, yeah, I wonder yeah, yeah, and then 586 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: of course, but then of course, just interlocking gears and 587 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: turning things are just are interesting. They they they make 588 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: us think about about motion and uh, interlocking energy. So 589 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, it seems like they're there's just a 590 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: few different directs it could go in that I could 591 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: I could imagine somebody saying, uh, that is something I 592 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: want to be buried than now. I want to come 593 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: back to the concept of gears in biology because for 594 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: a long time, while there was probably no known example 595 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: of a working gear in the in the biological world, 596 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: there have been observations before of animals having appendages certainly 597 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: look like tooth to gears. And my favorite, uh instance 598 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: I came across here is a creature called the wheel 599 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,919 Speaker 1: bug or eralists cristatas. This is a type of predatory 600 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: assassin bug that preys on all kinds of insects, including aphids, caterpillars, beetles, 601 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: and bees. I found some very gnarly looking images of 602 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: of caterpillar mutilation. Yeah, I don't think i'd really seen 603 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 1: this species before, these creatures before, but yeah, they're quite 604 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: cool looking. It kind of looks like it has some 605 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: sort of a gear emerging from its back. Also, it 606 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: reminds me of a buzz saw or perhaps to some 607 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: degree of something like a stegasaurus or or or demetrodon 608 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, so it's called the wheel bug, but 609 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: I think maybe a better name would be the gear bug, 610 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: because it really does look like it's it's got this 611 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: toothed gear poking up out of the back of its carapace, 612 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: right sort of behind where the head is up on 613 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: the thorax. And so I was reading about this insect 614 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: on the University of Florida Department of Intropology's website. They've 615 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: got a good profile on it there and they say 616 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: in adulthood, this insect tends to measure about one to 617 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: one and a quarter inches long, and then quote, this 618 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: assassin bug is a dark, robust creature with long legs 619 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: and antennae, a stout beak, large eyes on a slim head, 620 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: and a prominent thoracic semicircular crep ust that resembles a 621 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: cog wheel or a chicken's comb. This is the only 622 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: insects species in the United States with such a crest. 623 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: The number of teeth or tubercles in the crest varies 624 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: from eight to twelve. Now immediately you're you're probably wondering, 625 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: as I was, what does it do? What? What is 626 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: the gear on its back? Do? I could not find 627 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: any solid research alluding to a purpose of this cog 628 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: wheel crest. That there may be something out there that 629 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't come across, or it may just be unknown. 630 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: I think it's more likely unknown at this point what 631 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: this gear crest is for, in which case, barring other knowledge, 632 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: I guess you might assume that its purpose might have 633 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 1: something to do with appearance rather than any mechanical function. 634 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: Maybe it plays a visual role in interactions with predators 635 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: or prey or mats, or maybe it's defensive somehow. It's 636 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: hard to tell um but apparently Another interesting fact is 637 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: that the wheel is absent in juvenile So if you 638 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: look at nymphs of this assassin bug, they don't have it. 639 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: It only appears in adults after the insects final molting, 640 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: so once it reaches its ultimate form, then it's got 641 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: the gear. But whatever it's for, it does not appear 642 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: to be a functional gear. It just looks like one. 643 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: I mean, for one thing, it can't rotate, and there's 644 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 1: nothing really that it could clearly be rotating against locking 645 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: its teeth with. It's just a crest that kind of 646 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: looks like a gear or like a like a chicken's comb. Now, 647 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: as amazing as these insects look, one thing I should 648 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: probably note is that you don't want to try to 649 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: handle it, because apparently wheelbugs can produce an extremely painful 650 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: bite that that lingers for days. But but anyway, this 651 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: animal is worth looking up. There are actually a few 652 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: other interesting things about them. For one thing, they do 653 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: appear to practice some amount of sexual cannibalism. Also, they 654 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: there is another mystery about them where they produce a vocalization. 655 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: I think they create a chirping sound by a certain 656 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: type of a friction mechanism where they rub one part 657 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: of their body on another. I think maybe they're rubbing 658 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: some uh, they're either their beak or four legs. I 659 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 1: think it was the beak on an on a part 660 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: on the underside of their carapacet and it creates this chirping. 661 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: And scientists, as far as I could tell, don't know 662 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: what this is for yet. But coming back to the 663 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: idea of an actual mechanically functional gear in biology, as 664 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: of a study published in the year in the journal Science, 665 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,919 Speaker 1: there actually is at least one known animal that does 666 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: contain working toothed gears within its body, and as far 667 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: as I could tell, this is also still the only 668 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: animal that has this feature that that's known, and this 669 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: animal is a type of plant hopper insect known as S. S. 670 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: Colliup tratis. The paper that reported the discovery of this 671 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: animal gear was, like I said, published in Science in 672 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: by authors Malcolm Burrows and Gregory Sutton, who both at 673 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: the time worked in the biological sciences at Cambridge University, 674 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: and it was called interacting gears synchronized propulsive leg movements 675 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: in a jumping insect. Now, Rob, I've got some images 676 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: that you can that you can look at here while 677 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm talking about this. There's some really interesting electron micrographs 678 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: of of these these gear pieces. They truly don't really 679 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: look animal, right, you know, they do look like a machine. 680 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: And I always love that when you like zoom way 681 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: in on the parts of an insect or something and 682 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: you get that hr Geeger space where you can't tell 683 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 1: if what you're looking at is is natural or artificial. Yeah, 684 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: because there's one image here of believe a nymph um 685 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: of of this uh, of this species, and you know 686 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: it's it's cute, but it doesn't really look like anything 687 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: other than some sort of a fly or insect um. 688 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, when you start looking at these these electron 689 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: microscope images, yeah, then then it takes on this bio 690 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: mechanical kind of reality and it's, uh, yeah, it's quite 691 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: unlike anything else I've seen. So it is this animal, 692 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: the the S. S. Coleopterus. Well, this is an insect 693 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: that is again known as a plant hopper. I think 694 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: you'll normally find them crawling around on bits of ivy 695 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: in Europe and North Africa, and so they're they're very 696 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: very small. They're usually just about three millimeters long at 697 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: maturity um and so they'll go around grazing on ivy leaves. 698 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: And the discovery that's announced in this report is that 699 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: the juveniles of this species, so not the adults, but 700 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: the nymphs. The juveniles, they have these interlocking gear teeth 701 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: on their back legs which allow them to rotate their 702 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: legs in perfect synchronization when they are setting up a jump. 703 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 1: So these tiny insects have have their main defense against predators. 704 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: And it's not clear exactly what predator this is most 705 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: adapted against, so I don't know if this would be, 706 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: you know, against the possibility of being eaten by a 707 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: large mammal that's grazing on foliage, or being pounced on 708 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: by a parasitic wasp or some other kind of smaller 709 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: insect predator or spider or something that's not quite known 710 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: for sure, but but there it is probably some kind 711 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: of survival defensive adaptation that this creature needs to be 712 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: able to jump far and jump fast, and they are 713 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: one of the most amazing jumpers in all of nature. 714 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: I was watching an interview with one of the authors 715 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: of the study, Malcolm Burrows, in which he talks about 716 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: the jumping mechanism, and so the s s insect will 717 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: take off at a at a jump of about five 718 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: meters per second or more than eight miles per hour, 719 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: which for a tiny insect like this is pretty fast. 720 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: It accelerates to its jumping speed in less than a millisecond. 721 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: And so the way Burrows explain this is that this 722 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: insect experiences absolutely unfathomable G forces as it takes off 723 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: because its acceleration is so fast. He puts it at 724 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: five hundred or even seven hundred g's, which if you 725 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,919 Speaker 1: look at the amount of g's that humans are able 726 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: to tolerate, it's like the amount you can tolerate is 727 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: a factor of how long you are subjected to them. 728 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: But you know, usually for humans, the the the acceleration 729 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 1: we can tolerate in gs, the maximum is like a 730 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,439 Speaker 1: factor of a few tens, you know, but this would 731 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,919 Speaker 1: be hundreds. Yeah, this is impressive. So this insect has 732 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,280 Speaker 1: this amazingly fast, amazingly powerful jump that can just catapult 733 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: It's like it's shooting itself out of a cannon using 734 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: the power of its two hind legs. And what was 735 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: documented in this paper by by Burrows and Sutton is 736 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: that they they captured imagery of gear mechanisms on the 737 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: hind legs interlocking using electron microscopy and high speed video recording. Uh, 738 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: and and again, the purpose that they found is that 739 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: these interlocking gear teeth are useful for synchronizing the motion 740 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: of the legs. Now, why would synchronization of the leg 741 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: movement be so important that it would have its own 742 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 1: evolved mechanism, which is, as far as we know, unique 743 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 1: in the animal kingdom. Well, apparently it's because coordination of 744 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: the timing on the two legs is necessary for this 745 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 1: incredibly powerful sort of cannon shot jump to be effective. 746 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 1: So I was reading about this in one of the 747 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: press releases about the about the study, and what the 748 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: author's here found is that a lack of synchronization between 749 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: the legs at launch could cause an uncontrolled what they 750 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: call yaw rotation. So if you if you picture an airplane, 751 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: you know you've got the different uh, the different ways 752 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: that you can change the motion of the airplane. You've 753 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 1: got pitch, role and yaw. So pitch would be tipping 754 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: the nose of the airplane up or down. Role would 755 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 1: be raising. That would be rolling the airplane. You know, 756 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: ray s the wings relative to each other, and then 757 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: yaw is twisting side to side. If you can imagine 758 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: an insect, that's sort of catapulting itself in this spectacular 759 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: jump with two with pushing off with the two hind 760 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: legs at the same time. If one leg pushes off 761 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 1: faster than the other one, you can imagine that it's 762 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: going to send the insects sort of twisting out of 763 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: control in its path, which obviously interferes with landing where 764 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: it's trying to land. Now, one question would be why 765 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: the need for a mechanical gear for synchronization. What why 766 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: does this need to be on the insects exoskeleton. Why 767 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't the insect just synchronize the action of its legs 768 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: through the nervous system like pretty much any other animal would, Right, Like, 769 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: if you are jumping, you are able to synchronize the 770 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 1: motion of your legs through neural mechanisms with your brain 771 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: and your nervous system sort of trying to control them 772 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 1: through normal motor function, and then getting feedback from the 773 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: feelings of your legs from like your appropriate reception and 774 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,320 Speaker 1: stuff and and tactle sensations to to try to time 775 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 1: the jump together and correct for any imbalances in real time. Well, 776 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: apparently the insect can't do that because the problem is 777 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: it's jump is too fast to synchronize through the nervous system. 778 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: The acceleration leading into the jump happens so quickly that 779 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: the nervous system cannot do real time feedback to coordinate it, 780 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: so it needs this mechanical lock on the legs themselves 781 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,280 Speaker 1: to make sure synchronization is happening, because the insects nervous 782 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,959 Speaker 1: system can't talk to itself fast enough to make sure 783 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: that the that the jump is on target. In their 784 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: In their press release, author Malcolm Burrows summarized it like 785 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: this quote. The precise synchronization would be impossible to achieve 786 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 1: through a nervous system, as neural impulses would take far 787 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: too long for the extraordinarily tight coordination required by developing 788 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: mechanical gears, the can just in nerve signals to its 789 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 1: muscles to produce roughly the same amount of force. Then, 790 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: if one leg starts to propel the jump, the gears 791 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: will interlock, creating absolute synchronicity and is the skeleton is 792 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 1: used to solve a complex problem that the brain and 793 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: nervous system can't. This emphasizes the importance of considering the 794 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 1: properties of the skeleton in how movement is produced, and 795 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: this was really interesting to me because it also comes 796 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: back to you could maybe even consider this a case 797 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 1: of sort of supplementing the cognitive abilities of the nervous system, 798 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: sort of embodied cognition, allowing the body to do math 799 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 1: for you that your brain and nervous system can't handle. Yeah, 800 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: because essentially it's it's it's a physical way of solving 801 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: a problem that is beyond cognitive ability, um and and 802 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 1: and and really when we're talking about the g forces 803 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: pulled here, and I think this is beyond spaceflight. So 804 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: when we talk about like humans have not evolved to 805 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: travel in space or to deal with certain speeds or 806 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 1: or physical realities like, this is a case here where 807 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: this this creature is is essentially engaging in those kinds 808 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 1: of speeds, those kinds of rapid accelerations. Uh So it's yeah, 809 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: it's fascinating to think about here. Yeah, the body moves 810 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,879 Speaker 1: too fast for the nervous system to make sense of, 811 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 1: so it just offloads that that computation that the motor 812 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 1: parts of the nervous system might do naturally, offloads that 813 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 1: onto the skeleton. Now, the exoskeleton of the insect is 814 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: doing the math for you, kind of like an analog 815 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,879 Speaker 1: computer would like the antique theorem mechanism wow wow. So 816 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 1: to take a slightly closer look at these teeth at 817 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: the gears on the hind legs. They're located on the 818 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 1: backs of the strong hind legs that the s s 819 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 1: insect uses to jump um there on the parts of 820 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 1: the legs known as the trocanta, and it's actually a 821 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 1: human skeleton has trocanta to their They're sort of on 822 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: the upper part of the femur, near where the femur 823 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 1: would would connect to the pelvis. And these these insects 824 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 1: tend to have somewhere between ten to twelve teeth on 825 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 1: their gears. But while it seems to vary between the insects, 826 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 1: the insect always has the same amount of teeth on 827 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: each side. Within itself, each tooth is about eighty micrometers wide, 828 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: so eighty millionths of a meter. And there are some 829 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: interesting engineered features of of these gear teeth within the 830 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 1: body that have been created by the evolutionary process that 831 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 1: gives rise to them. Here, the teeth have rounded corners 832 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,240 Speaker 1: at the point of contact, and this is useful, apparently 833 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 1: because it would help prevent the gears from being sheared 834 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: off or broken off if there is a slight misalignment 835 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 1: during a jump. And then another interesting thing about them 836 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 1: is that they are differently shaped than most gears we 837 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 1: use in the technological world, because usually gears made by 838 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 1: humans tend to have some metrical teeth, right, you know, 839 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,240 Speaker 1: there's sort of curved straight out from the gear strip surface, 840 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: But in these the teeth are not quite symmetrical. They're 841 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 1: sort of angled out. And it's because this gear only 842 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 1: needs to work one way, so like, after the launch 843 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 1: is done, the gear teeth can just separate from each 844 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 1: other and they don't need to roll backwards in in 845 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 1: the direction opposite from which they came. It's a one 846 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,439 Speaker 1: way gear. Yeah, and you definitely get that from looking 847 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 1: at the image. It feels like some sort of a 848 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:34,880 Speaker 1: biomechanical um, you know, firing mechanism, right, A firing mechanism 849 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: is a is a good way to compare it, because again, 850 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't go both ways and it doesn't need to 851 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: roll all the way around. It's just sort of a 852 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 1: strip of interlocking teeth that doesn't complete a full circle. 853 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,799 Speaker 1: And it only and it only rolls one way only 854 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 1: on launch. Yeah, like it kind of looks like if 855 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 1: hr gear designed a flint lock. Yeah, or maybe if 856 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 1: David Cronenberg did you know? Yeah? Oh, but so there 857 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: was a really interesting thing about this research, the question 858 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,280 Speaker 1: of how did they figure out that these gear teeth 859 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 1: locked for synchronization while launching the jump? Right? Like, how 860 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,240 Speaker 1: do how did they observe that? Well, apparently the authors 861 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 1: here used a dead insect. They used an insect corpse, 862 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: and what they did was they they took the dead 863 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 1: insects legs and rotated them back into the jump launching position, 864 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 1: and then the researchers used an electrical stimulus to cause 865 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: a contraction in the jumping muscle of only one of 866 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: the legs. Okay, so they they stimulate only one leg 867 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,800 Speaker 1: as if it has been told by the brain to jump. 868 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: But because the gear teeth were locked when the legs 869 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 1: were in jump readying position, the insects legs both performed 870 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,439 Speaker 1: the launching motion, even the dead leg on the other 871 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: side that had not been electrically stimulated, and the insect 872 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 1: leapt straightforward, so you could stimulate only one of the 873 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: two legs, kind of like how an airplane can fly 874 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 1: with only one engine. You know, you only need to 875 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 1: stimulate one of the legs, and the gears keep both 876 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: legs locked in sync. Now there's another interesting question here, 877 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 1: why only the juveniles. I think I already mentioned that 878 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:15,280 Speaker 1: the adult insects don't have these interlocking gear teeth. They've 879 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,399 Speaker 1: got a feature that's more common, more like what you'd 880 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 1: see in a lot of other jumping insects, which is 881 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 1: not gear teeth, but just sort of um bumps or 882 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 1: friction pads, So their back legs might touch each other 883 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 1: and and the touching their helps keep the jump synchronized. 884 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 1: But they don't actually have interlocking teeth. It's more just 885 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 1: kind of like pushing to surfaces together that grip each 886 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: other pretty well. In another study by Burrows, he noted 887 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 1: that this is achieved by quote mechanical actions between small 888 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 1: protrusions from each Trochantera, which fluoresce bright blue under specific 889 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,320 Speaker 1: wavelengths of ultraviolet light and which touch at the midline 890 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 1: when the legs are cocked before a jump. So the 891 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 1: adults are touching parts of their back legs together to 892 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 1: help synchronize a jump, but they don't have gear teeth. 893 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 1: And the hypothesized explanation for the difference here is that 894 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 1: is this Insects go through periods of molting as they grow. Right, 895 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 1: So an insect, as it gets bigger and bigger, it 896 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,399 Speaker 1: will shed its old hard exoskeleton and then it will 897 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: grow bigger and allow a new exoskeleton to harden. But 898 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 1: the adult exoskeleton at full maturity, it lacks these interlocking 899 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 1: gear teeth. And the idea is maybe the adults don't 900 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 1: have the teeth because if the teeth on the jumping 901 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 1: mechanism were to break or get sheared off but by error, 902 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 1: this would sort of break their ability to jump. And 903 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 1: so once the adult is in full molted form and 904 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: it's not going to shed its exoskeleton again, it needs 905 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: to have a less fragile mechanism. But the younger's, the 906 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 1: younger ones, the juveniles, because they will go through multiple 907 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 1: moltings and can grow new gear teeth if they're old 908 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,800 Speaker 1: gear teeth break, they pay less of a price for 909 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:06,279 Speaker 1: having this somewhat fragile mechanism. Okay, So here we see 910 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 1: sort of in in their early stages, the advantages of 911 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 1: having an an exo skeleton, and then in in later 912 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,359 Speaker 1: life the disadvantages of having an exoskeleton and that you're 913 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 1: not going to get another one, right, And so when 914 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 1: you're not going to get another one, it makes more 915 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 1: sense for evolution to supply you with more durable mechanisms 916 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 1: that aren't going to possibly like kill you if if 917 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: they break right, there would be a survival advantage in 918 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 1: having a jumping mechanism that's not going to It's not 919 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 1: going to be like a Boba Fett's um jet pack 920 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,319 Speaker 1: firing off at a weird angle and sending you into 921 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 1: the sarlac. Right, But that's just a hypothesized explanation for 922 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,959 Speaker 1: the difference between the juveniles and adults. Ultimately, we don't 923 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,840 Speaker 1: know for sure there and as far as I can tell, 924 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: this is still the only known toothed gear in the 925 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 1: animal kingdom. That there may have been something since then 926 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 1: that I wasn't able to track down, but it looks 927 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 1: like this is still the only one. Yeah, well, this 928 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,920 Speaker 1: is fascinating. It kind of brings me back to the 929 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 1: biobmetics question earlier. You know, um an evolution solving particular 930 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 1: engineering problems over time, and this is an example where 931 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: the the engineering problem is extreme enough that and the 932 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 1: and the circumstances of its its lifespan enable the sort 933 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 1: of answer to evolve and take place. Yeah. Yeah. Can 934 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,479 Speaker 1: you imagine if you had gear teeth on your inner 935 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 1: thighs that helps you jump, it seems uncomfortable. Yeah, yeah, 936 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 1: I'd have to have an exoskeleton too for this place. 937 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 1: Or yeah, I'd have to have some other kind of 938 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 1: weird arrangement, like you would have to be bone spurs 939 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,480 Speaker 1: or keith that grow back, I guess, because that would 940 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 1: again you'd have to have the situation of what what 941 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 1: do you do about the wear and tear of this 942 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 1: the physical mechanics here, I mean, it doesn't really make 943 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 1: sense for our bodies because that wouldn't that wouldn't be 944 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 1: how we jump anyway, or like I need to work 945 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 1: differently for that to make sense. Yeah. Yeah, So again 946 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 1: we come down to a very specific, evolved answer to 947 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 1: a specific problem that yeah, you're just not going to 948 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 1: see in in in other organisms. But I am still 949 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,919 Speaker 1: in memorative the idea that in a way, these these 950 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: gear teeth on the insects legs are a kind of computer. 951 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 1: They're doing a kind of mathematical processing for the animal. 952 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 1: This is the this is the computer of the thighs. Yeah. 953 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 1: And and also it's interesting too that no matter how 954 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 1: no matter how much you know, humanity clung to the 955 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,239 Speaker 1: wheel and to gears and and saw this as their 956 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:35,279 Speaker 1: technological achievement. Uh. Here we have an example of evolution 957 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,239 Speaker 1: once more, beating humanity to the punch. Uh. So well, 958 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 1: before the Greeks of Alexandria were devising their uh their gear, 959 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,800 Speaker 1: you know complexities. Uh, this creature already had the gears 960 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:53,319 Speaker 1: right there in its thighs. These gears are hopping. Yeah. Well, 961 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:57,360 Speaker 1: this was fun. I enjoyed talking about everything from We 962 00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 1: had a little bit of an intervention episode. Uh in here, 963 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 1: we had some biology, we had a little bit of 964 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 1: mythology and folklore. So it would be interesting to come 965 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,320 Speaker 1: back to this. And and we talked about potentially covering 966 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,320 Speaker 1: screws and screws in nature in this episode, but perhaps 967 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,319 Speaker 1: that would make for its own future episode. Oh yeah, 968 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 1: there are actually a few things in nature that you 969 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 1: could argue or screws. Yeah, and then and and of 970 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 1: course the invention of the screw and uh and so 971 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,239 Speaker 1: forth is also quite interesting. All right, we're gonna go 972 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:27,920 Speaker 1: and close it up then, but we'd love to hear 973 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,239 Speaker 1: from everyone out there. UM, certainly reach out to us, 974 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 1: get in touch with us in the meantime, if you 975 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 1: want to check out other episodes of Stuff to Blow 976 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 1: Your Mind Core episodes publishing the Stuff to Blow Your 977 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 1: Mind podcast feed on Tuesdays and Thursdays, sandwich between them, 978 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 1: we have an Artifact episode or for the months of 979 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 1: September and October. Anyway, it's going to be the Monster Fact. 980 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna We're gonna take on more of a monstrous 981 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 1: form for the holidays here and then it will likely 982 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,880 Speaker 1: revert back to the Artifact. We have listener mail on Monday's. 983 00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,839 Speaker 1: We have a little weird house cinema on Fridays. That's 984 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 1: our I'm just to discuss a weird film, and then 985 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,920 Speaker 1: we have a rerun over the weekend. Huge things. As 986 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,799 Speaker 1: always to our excellent audio producer Seth Nicholas Johnson. 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