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Speaker 1: Yeah man, welcome back. Congratulations on a new album. You know,
Speaker 1: I was I was thinking about this today when when
Speaker 1: we were talking about you coming on. I was like,
Speaker 1: you are a living hip hop legend and and and
Speaker 1: I think the significance of that for me lies in
Speaker 1: in the meaning both ways. One, you are still in
Speaker 1: the game, you're still doing it, you're still contributing, you're
Speaker 1: still making great music. But also you are a living
Speaker 1: hip hop legend. We take for grants, and how many
Speaker 1: legends we've lost in hip hop we take for grants?
Speaker 1: How many people onto around who are part of that?
Speaker 1: Do you ever wake up in the morning and thinks yourself, damn,
Speaker 1: so many of the people I started with in this
Speaker 1: game on't here anymore. And I'm still here getting to
Speaker 1: be a part of it all the time, all the time.
Speaker 1: Somebody friend of mine today called me and told me, said,
Speaker 1: you you realize how long and you've been around and
Speaker 1: how much you you survived the things you've been through.
Speaker 1: You know, we just lost a hip hop art hip
Speaker 1: hop artists, uh the other week man take off and
Speaker 1: you know, maybe rest in peace and you know, I
Speaker 1: lost so many friends even before I got into music.
Speaker 1: I didn't think I would get into music and then
Speaker 1: still see it going on. You know, Yeah, you've done that.
Speaker 1: You've done more than just survive it. You've succeeded in it.
Speaker 1: You've thrived in it. And I think what I love
Speaker 1: about this album is how it feels like you almost
Speaker 1: reminiscing whilst also writing a piece of the future. You know,
Speaker 1: you've you've always been to list to. Everyone will say
Speaker 1: one of the greatest lyricists that's ever lived. But the
Speaker 1: stories that you tell, you know, the way you we've
Speaker 1: I mean, for instance, everyone was in hip hop was
Speaker 1: familiar with like your beef with jay Z right what
Speaker 1: it was, and then I loved having here you you
Speaker 1: talk about that beef, what it was, how it disappeared,
Speaker 1: but how you'll still text him saying, you know this
Speaker 1: isn't over well. When I released the track list for
Speaker 1: the album the other day, he released the picture with
Speaker 1: all his Grammys. Yeah, shout out to him and a
Speaker 1: shout out to hit Boy, who produced this album, the
Speaker 1: entire album. He produced the other two albums and also
Speaker 1: the album Magic We We Slipped in four albums in
Speaker 1: two years. And the reason yeah, thanks, thanks, And the
Speaker 1: reason I think it happened is because we started the
Speaker 1: first one when the pandemic hit. So at first I
Speaker 1: was scared to come outside, and then he hit Boy
Speaker 1: was in the studio like, come on man, it's like
Speaker 1: a month, you know, you didn't leave your house, and
Speaker 1: he got me to come outside and had nothing else
Speaker 1: to do. We finished the first one really quick, and
Speaker 1: we said, you know, we should do this again, and
Speaker 1: here we are with the third one on my label,
Speaker 1: Massive Hill. I would love to know, Yeah, I'd love
Speaker 1: to know that when you look at hip hop as
Speaker 1: a whole, you know, you you you were there when
Speaker 1: it was only seen as gangster rap. You were there
Speaker 1: when it was completely ostracized from society. Now it's at
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. Now it is, you know, at a
Speaker 1: hockey game. I remember that's when I was like, wow, okay,
Speaker 1: hip hop has done it, you know for real. I'd
Speaker 1: love to know, you know, where you would like to
Speaker 1: see the game progressing to now that it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's not in the exact same place it was before.
Speaker 1: I think it evolved and I think people can realize
Speaker 1: that you don't have to be scared of it. It's
Speaker 1: it's we learned from our mistakes and then um, we
Speaker 1: can grow with it. We don't have to stay doing
Speaker 1: one thing. The ones who stay doing one thing, unfortunately
Speaker 1: they fall off. Um, and we have to understand that
Speaker 1: like hip hop is now, it's going on fifty years,
Speaker 1: and we've been behind this whole fifty years will be
Speaker 1: next year. Hip hop has been alive, So we've been
Speaker 1: behind trying to curate this museum that's coming up in
Speaker 1: the Bronx right now, and and and and the mayor
Speaker 1: has even gotten involved that, the Mayor Adams and you know,
Speaker 1: and I noticed, yeah, I noticed one thing that the culture.
Speaker 1: It's like artists don't think they can go past one
Speaker 1: way or we have to be all in one like
Speaker 1: area trying to fight for crumbs. And it's like hip
Speaker 1: hop's a multi sound genre. So it's like in rock,
Speaker 1: you don't have you don't compare Kiss to the Rolling Stones,
Speaker 1: you know, but in hip hop, for some reason, we're
Speaker 1: fighting it for the same thing. And you know, uh,
Speaker 1: you feel like you have to be the number one
Speaker 1: guy all the time. So hip hop is a multi
Speaker 1: sound genre. You can have multiple things going on at once.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter how if you're twenty years old or forty
Speaker 1: years old or whatever. It's a beautiful culture and I
Speaker 1: love all of it. So I think that we should
Speaker 1: all as writers get out of your comfort zone and
Speaker 1: spread your wings and expand your sound. Yeah, I really
Speaker 1: like that. Before I let you go, I want to
Speaker 1: I want to talk about that idea of being more.
Speaker 1: You know, we know you for the music. We know
Speaker 1: you for being in the restaurant business and doing extremely
Speaker 1: well being successful with that. We also know you you
Speaker 1: don't get it's for normal people love it and you
Speaker 1: don't remember eating. And someone was like, you know, Nas
Speaker 1: owns this chicken. I was like this chicken that I'm
Speaker 1: holding right now. It was it was a weird way
Speaker 1: that someone said it to me. But but but you
Speaker 1: you're also getting involved in a different type of storytelling,
Speaker 1: which is which is in film. You know. I know
Speaker 1: that you directed a documentary you know that talks about
Speaker 1: you know, the supreme world of like it was this
Speaker 1: underworld in Queens, And I know you also involved in
Speaker 1: a really fascinating story about the civil rights icons. Everybody
Speaker 1: Malcolm X, Martin, Luther King Jr. Etcetera. What is it
Speaker 1: about that world that entices you. Why why are you
Speaker 1: stepping into documentaries, filmmaking, et cetera and doing well at it.
Speaker 1: I'm a movie buff. I love films, and yeah, I
Speaker 1: love films. I love them, love along. I was Halloween,
Speaker 1: I was going on Friday crazy. I was going on
Speaker 1: Halloween crazy. I was. I went to see Halloween Ends
Speaker 1: and all of that. What's your favorite film? What is
Speaker 1: like the movie that you can never get enough of?
Speaker 1: You watch it over and over and over. Beech Street,
Speaker 1: the old school hip hop film. Okay, that's my favorite.
Speaker 1: Dan the Gums there, Guy Fathers and all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: You know. Godfather is a family movie, you know, beautiful thing,
Speaker 1: you know. Um. But yeah, I love films. I love
Speaker 1: Steven Spielberg. Wrapped about him on one of my first raps,
Speaker 1: and I always wanted to get into it. So the
Speaker 1: Supreme Team was one about it underworld, um organization and
Speaker 1: Queens long ago. We hear about the Gotties and all
Speaker 1: of those Gian Goddis and stuff, but we never really
Speaker 1: hear about this. So I like to uncover things, the good,
Speaker 1: the bad, ugly in in America. And his story was
Speaker 1: some innocent people and some people are guilty, some are
Speaker 1: innocent probably, but um, the new one, the Invaders that
Speaker 1: just came out you can chech it on Apple, Amazon
Speaker 1: Prime is about this organization of musicians, intellectuals, Vietnam vets
Speaker 1: who got together who were trying to uh strike against
Speaker 1: a garbage truck company where someone was killed in his
Speaker 1: in his faulty truck and there was no pensions of money.
Speaker 1: Was bad and Martin Luther King came down there and
Speaker 1: uh he stood with the Memphis people, the people that
Speaker 1: were striking, and he found out who the invaders were,
Speaker 1: and they wanted to protect the march because the first
Speaker 1: march from bad. Of course we know the end, how
Speaker 1: Martin Lucy King, Um, uh you know what happens. But
Speaker 1: there's another look into that story through the eyes of
Speaker 1: the invaders and that most of them are still alive.
Speaker 1: And it's really good picture and in nineteen sixty seven,
Speaker 1: and um, it's amazing. So there's so many stories to
Speaker 1: uncover all over the world. And here's my world. I
Speaker 1: want to talk about it. Another one beside Sweet Chick,
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Speaker 1: not me, but I'm a part of it. Yeah that's me.
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