1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in our number three Clay Travis 3 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 4 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast. You can 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: search out my name Clay Travis, you can search out 6 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton. You will be well on your way to 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: being able to follow not only us, but the entire 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck podcast network, which has grown and continues 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: to expand substantially. 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All right, I want to tell all 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: of you about a crazy, unbelievable story that I think 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: Buck knows a little bit about. By the way, two 21 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: thirty at the bottom of this hour, we'll give you 22 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,639 Speaker 1: the absolute latest on the big beautiful Bill. James Blair 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: from the White House is going to join us. Also 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: reports that Trump is going to make an announcement around 25 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: three Eastern related to the Golden Dome Protective Missile Defense 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: shield that he and Pete Hegseth are working alongside of. 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: We've got the original Sin book coming out, although it feels, 28 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Buck, a bit muted, like 29 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: they fired all of their proverbial bullets in the days 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: leading up to that book and there is not a 31 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: ton left there. But we will see. I haven't seen 32 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: any new blockbuster revelations surrounding that book today, and we 33 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: have the charges fired filed again. Congresswoman Lamonica McIvor from 34 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: the tenth Congressional District of New Jersey. A lot of 35 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: you weighing in on that, James Comy on MSNBC. We 36 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: have hit a lot of different things. This is a 37 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 1: crazy story, and sometimes I hit Buck with crazy stories 38 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: that he is not familiar with, and this is a 39 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: truly crazy story. So a lot of you out there 40 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: are big fans of Kaitlyn Clark, former Iowa women's basketball player. 41 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: She has made women's basketball matter more in college basketball 42 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: and the WNBA than at any point in my life. 43 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: The audience is massive for her. Lots of people are 44 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: big fans of Kaitlyn Clark. They played a game over 45 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: the weekend and she committed a foul of Angel Reese. 46 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: These two went head to head back when LSU played Iowa. 47 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: They have got a rivalry. A lot of people watch 48 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: this game over the weekend, especially considering it's a women's 49 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: basketball game. WNBA game. Two point seven million viewers most 50 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: watched w NBA game on ESPN. I think, ever, so 51 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people care about this foul was called 52 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: at on a would be layup attempt. Kaitlin Clark fouls 53 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: Angel Reese, and the sports media has completely lost its 54 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: mind ever since that moment. So Angel Reese reacts crazily 55 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: runs after Caitlin Clark. Robert Griffin the third who is 56 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: a who is a Heisman Trophy winning quarterback, drafted in 57 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: the first round in the NFL. He was attacked by 58 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: an ESPN employee. And I think this is important story. 59 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: Somebody say the sports story. No, I think it's a 60 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: culture story as much or more than it's a sports story. 61 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: Robert Griffin the third buck said, the reason that Angel 62 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: Reese reacted that way is because she hates Caitlin Clark. 63 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark is a better player, makes more money, more popular, 64 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: all those things, and he said this was based on hate. 65 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: Ryan Clark, who is employed at ESPN, fired back and said, 66 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: the reason Robert Griffin IID had that opinion is because 67 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: he has a white wife. Yeah, this is real. So 68 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: Robert Griffin, third black guy married to a white woman. 69 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: Ryan Clark said, the reason that he said Angel Rehees 70 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: reacted emotionally and was fueled by hate is because he's 71 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: married to a white woman. Well, this did not go 72 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: over well with Robert Griffin, IIRD, who posted what I 73 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: thought was an epic takedown yesterday. This has turned into 74 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: a big story. I think it's a cultural story, not 75 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: only a sports story. The team pulled the audio. Listen 76 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: to this. 77 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: Ryan Clark personally attacking me and my family because he 78 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: disagreed with my sports opinion is a bad look for ESPN. 79 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: It's cowardly, it's spine us, and it's weak. Ryan Clark 80 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: personally attacking me and my family personally because he disagreed 81 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: with my sports opinion is a bad look for him 82 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 2: as a man. I hope you get to help. 83 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: You need brother, all right now, Buck, I just want 84 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: to toss this to you, because this is blown up. 85 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: It's everywhere. If if any white guy said the reason 86 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: a black guy has an opinion is because his wife 87 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: is black, that white guy or that white woman would 88 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: get fired and they would never work in sports. Again, 89 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: it's rare that I see a story and I'm like, oh, 90 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: I can't believe this is real. I legitimately can't believe 91 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 1: that one guy attacked another guy and said the reason 92 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: he has the opinion is because of the race of 93 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: his wife. But when you see a story like this, 94 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: and again I would encourage you. I've shared the videos. 95 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: You can go watch this. Rg THII basically argues this 96 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: should have nothing to do with race, right, Like, again, 97 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: it's a women's basketball foul and it's just set off 98 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: nuclear war and it's not even really sports so much 99 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: as it is culture. Now, well, a big part of 100 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: this whole conversation, And you're right, you know, Clay brings 101 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: a story to my attention when it's in the sports world, 102 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: and he realizes that I'm gonna say, oh no, that 103 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: is a I agree with you. It's a broader cultural, 104 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: broader social commentary thread that runs through this, which is 105 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: why it's getting so much attention. First, this is something 106 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: of an aside. Would Clay and I agree on this one. 107 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: You know, when you work in media, you get used 108 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: to people saying things about you that are untrue, and 109 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: people attacking you and all of that. I think for 110 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: any red blooded American male who works in media, who 111 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: has any backbone at all, you randomly bring somebody's like 112 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: you randomly bring someone's wife into it. It would never 113 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: occur to me in a million years, and I would 114 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: be ashamed. I mean, it would just never happen, right, 115 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: to bring somebody's wife into something that you know, it's 116 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton was trying to be president, right, like it's 117 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton's wife. What we understand when you bring someone's 118 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: family that has nothing to do with it into it 119 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: just to take a swipe at them, you've crossed a line. 120 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: Even in media, you've crossed a line. And I think 121 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: that mister r G three handled it very well. I 122 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: thought his statement was excellent. But really, the the Caitlin 123 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: Clark issue is fascinating because it shows the depth of 124 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: what a lot of people have as racial resentment toward her. Yes, 125 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: and a lot of a lot of w NBA players do, 126 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: perhaps some portion of some some of the fan base. 127 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: I don't think that's really the case overall, because she's 128 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: so popular in the fan base is so happy to 129 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: have a marquee star like her. But I mean, I 130 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: also have to say, I just think the w n 131 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: B A and this is not groundbreaking. It's just not 132 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: a very good product to watch on television, and women's 133 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: basketball for me is just not fun to watch. Clay 134 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: I went to a and I will say whereas, by 135 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: the way, I sometimes prefer watching women's tennis, not for 136 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: that reason any of you out there, but because as 137 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: an amateur tennis player, I love the game. The women's 138 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: game moves at a pace and has tactics that are 139 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: far more translated. I am powerful and more of the rallies, 140 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: and I'm never gonna hit one hundred and thirty mile 141 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: an hour serve and one hundred and you know, twenty 142 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: mile an hour second serve. It's just never gonna happen. 143 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: And that's a huge part of the men's game. The 144 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: women's game is much more about the groundstroke, tactics, right, 145 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: and so so anyway, and you know, so women's tennis, 146 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: for example, I think is a great product. It's not 147 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: about men and women. But some women's basketball I think 148 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: is not a very good product. But the fact that 149 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: their resentment of Caitlin Clark is so strong that even 150 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: though she brings money and attention. You tell me about 151 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: the ratings. I mean, I don't pay attention to this stuff, 152 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: but astonishingly high ratings for a league that has always struggled, 153 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, And and all of a sudden, there's all 154 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: this there's all these people who are saying that that's 155 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: not good or they don't like that. So the resentment 156 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: point is obvious. And the fact that RG three would 157 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: make that point that there is something Bill So I've 158 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: played enough basketball to know it was a standard basketball foul, 159 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: the wide open layup. Caitlin Clark fouled her, Angel Reese 160 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: reacted crazily like she wanted to fight her. What is 161 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: the reaction based on, Hey, you know she did we 162 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: start to have yeah, but we need to start to 163 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: have conversations. It's not okay to resent anybody based upon 164 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: their race, or have resentment against any race, no matter 165 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: what what race you are. And you know, this also 166 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: comes up in the context Clay of the South African 167 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: africaner migrants. All of a sudden, there's a problem. There's 168 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: fifty of them, and all of a sudden, there's a 169 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: problem with bringing not a to bring white migrants into America. 170 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: That that's the actual feeling that a lot of the 171 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: country has a lot of democrats and leftists in particular 172 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: have and that's not okay. And I don't think a 173 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: white girl should be you know, again, I'm taking the 174 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: sort of quoting the perspective here. It's not how I feel, 175 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: but someone's saying, I don't think a white girl should 176 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: be the premier player in the w NBA because why 177 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: because she's white. That's also not okay. That's also not okay. 178 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: You know, I've started watching basketball again, NBA basketball, and 179 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's remarkable, like no one even 180 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: cares really about it. But I think there's a strong 181 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: case to be made the best player in the NBA 182 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: right now is white. Maybe that's two or three. I mean, 183 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: you can argue that Jokic and donchik Luka are the 184 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: two best players in the NBA right now, not a 185 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: crazy tag, and I think every I think all the 186 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: other players are like those guys have a lot of game, 187 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: and like I respect them, and it's it's just it's 188 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: just about who's the best. Yeah, and if they're the best, 189 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: a fine one should be other guys want to beat them. 190 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: And there are plenty of minority representation in the NBA, obviously, 191 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: so it's not like that's an issue. But in the 192 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: w NBA, this resentment has been allowed to has been 193 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: allowed to kind of grow for too long, I think, 194 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: and this is a this is something that should be 195 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: spoken about openly because it's not it's just not right. 196 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: It's just not it's not ethical. Let me also mention 197 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 1: two things. One think about how if tennis had welcomed 198 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: Venus and Serena like this, right, Tennis, let's be honest, 199 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 1: usually a white sport. If golf had welcomed Tiger like this, 200 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: it would have been seen as unacceptable. They are a 201 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: different race, but they are playing at a dominant level. 202 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: And tennis and golf both benefited immensely from Venus and Serena. 203 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: I would say those leagues actually open arms, biggest endorsements imaginable. Please, please, 204 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: let's sort of expand the uh, you know, the the audience, 205 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: the audience, and everybody benefited, right Like Tiger Woods made 206 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: everybody in golf Richard because more people cared. Well, Caitlin 207 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: Clark's doing that in WNBA. They aren't responding well. Bobby Barack, 208 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: who does really good work at OutKick, one of our writers, 209 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: has a story coming to OutKick. A bunch of ESPN 210 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: guys are upset about what Ryan Clark did. Listen to 211 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: these quotes. Imagine how RG three's Little Black Girls feel. 212 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: He has four daughters seeing a prominent figure claim their 213 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: father lacks empathy for black women. Another former former player 214 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: turned ESPN analyst said, Ryan Clark's a former player. There 215 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: are two rules in the locker room. You don't talk 216 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: about a man's girl or their money. That crap wouldn't 217 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: fly face to face. So this is turning into a 218 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: big story, and it's all coming out of a w 219 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: NBA foul, which again speaks to the amount of attention 220 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: that's on Caitlin Clark. I think it's overall good for 221 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: the league, but to your point, Buck, it's also exposing 222 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: the ugly underside under belly of the WNBA, which is 223 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: a league that would rather many of these women, it appears, 224 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: fail being led by minorities than have success with a 225 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: white girl near the top, which is is very, very troubling, 226 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: and people should be able to speak about this because 227 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's also unfair. I bet there are plenty 228 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: of w NBA players who love the idea of their 229 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: being more, including a lot of you know, black WNBA 230 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: players who are just like more eyeballs, please, more money, please, 231 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: like let's grow our league. But some of the stars 232 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: who weren't very big stars before because of what the 233 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 1: league was, but some of them have resentment. And the 234 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: resentment isn't about oh, she's not better than me or 235 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: I think you know, it's about she's a white girl 236 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: and that's not okay. I think that's right. But so 237 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: pay attention to this story. 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Some really good stuff from a courtesy of 281 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: Secretary of State Rubio Up on Capitol Hill, squaring off 282 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: with some members of Congress who don't realize that this 283 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: Rubio Rubio, I guess two point zero or three point 284 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: oho maybe is dialed in, is ready for the fight, 285 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: and is totally aligned with the Trump administration on matters 286 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: of policy and has really learned Clay. I think if 287 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: you're looking at somebody who gets the most improved award 288 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: for how to handle the media and maybe learning in 289 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: no small measure from how Trump handles them, Rubio has 290 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: done really, really well. So we'll get to some of 291 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: this coming up here in a little bit. We've also 292 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: got a James Blair White House Deputy Chief of Staff 293 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: going to join us here in a few minutes. We 294 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: can ask him about both the believed announcement or reported 295 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: announcement coming about the Golden Dome, which is like an 296 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: iron dome except golden figure, and we'll talk him about that, 297 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: and then also the Big Beautiful Bill. Do we know 298 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: is that real question? Is that going to be the name? 299 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: You know, there's always an actual bill name, right, like 300 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: there was the Affordable Care Act for Obamacare. If the 301 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: Inflation Reduction Act can actually increase inflation, then I think 302 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: the Big Beautiful Bill is a fair name. What could 303 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: be more Trump than the signature legislation of his first 304 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: year of a second term is the big beautiful bill. 305 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: It's amazing, some people are saying, so, yeah, I think 306 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: that that could be a lot of fun. We'll dive 307 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: into some of the details on that and see, you know, 308 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: what's what, what's going on with it? Yeah. Sometimes I 309 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: catch Clay he's so deep in thought. I'm like, Okay, 310 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: are you about to take us? I thought we were 311 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: going to play. I thought we were gonna play the 312 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: rubio going on that we have it yet, I wanted 313 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 1: to play it too. 314 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 3: We do we do? 315 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: Well? No, it's no, not ready. See, it's a timing. 316 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: So we're going to talk with the White House when 317 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: we come back, and we will find out what we 318 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: think the timing is on this bill. Initially, the hope 319 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: was that they would get it done by Memorial Day. 320 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 1: Now there seems to be a suggestion that it might 321 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: be bumped back a bit more. We'll get the absolute 322 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: latest there, and like you said, the Golden Dome, uh, 323 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: the which been obviously very successful in Israel, remaining under 324 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: contemplation but maybe officially announced here in the next thirty 325 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: minutes or so. Rapid radios you've heard us talking about it. 326 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: They're fantastics. So many of you have tried them out. 327 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: You love these modern versions of that old school walkie talkie, 328 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: and you're loving it because of what they do. They 329 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: give you so much convenience and coverage coast to coast 330 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: touch of a button. 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All right, 350 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: So that's a pretty cool nickname, and I imagine that 351 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: doesn't stink to be the White House Chief of Staff 352 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: deputy that is the known as the Oracle. So let 353 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: me ask you for your predictions, Oracle, on how the 354 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: Big Beautiful Bill is going to go and what should 355 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: this audience know about it from your perspective. 356 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 3: Appreciate that going to be with you, guys. 357 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 5: I think that the Big Beautiful Bill will get out 358 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 5: of the House this week. I think that obviously, if 359 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 5: it gets out of the House this week, then it 360 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 5: will go over to the Senate. They'll work on it 361 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 5: for a few weeks, and the goal is to get 362 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 5: it on the President's text by July fourth, which I 363 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 5: think will happen. Look, we've got to get this done. 364 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 5: This bill has so much to love, guys. First of all, 365 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 5: let's talk about the border first and foremost, which nobody's 366 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 5: talking about anymore because the President has driven illegal border 367 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 5: crossings to zero since he came into office. But this 368 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 5: bill funds border enforcement, adds ten thousand new ice officers, 369 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 5: gives them pay raises, gives us everything we need logistically 370 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 5: to not only keep the border secure for the president's 371 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 5: entire term in office so we don't have to come 372 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 5: back and do this again, but also to deport people 373 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 5: and get millions of illegal immigrants out of this country, 374 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 5: which is something that a majority of the American people support. Secondarily, 375 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 5: it gives us the one thing we need for our military. 376 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 5: You know that the President is involved in complex negotiations 377 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 5: across the globe to bring peace that's backed up through strength. 378 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 5: And it gives us the funding to modernize our military 379 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 5: and make sure it's the most lethal fighting force in 380 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 5: the world for the foreseeable future. But then the big 381 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 5: thing that it does that everyone's talking about is. 382 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 3: The tax cuts. 383 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 5: This renews the President's historic tax cut from twenty seventeen 384 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 5: that was the biggest in history, and then adds more 385 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 5: taxes on top everything he campaigned on. No tax on tips, 386 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 5: no tax on social security, no tax on overtime pay. 387 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 5: It will be the single largest tax cut for middle 388 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 5: and working class Americans in the history of the country, 389 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 5: and it will do that while still generating more than 390 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 5: a trillion dollars right now one point seven trillion dollars 391 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 5: in savings for the American taxpayer, which is twice as 392 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 5: much savings that has ever been delivered by Congress in 393 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 5: the last thirty years, and that was almost thirty years 394 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 5: ago under Bill Clinton. So we're getting the country's fiscal 395 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 5: house in order. We're giving people money back in their 396 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 5: pocket that they are We're deregulating, we're unleashing energy, we're 397 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 5: securing the border, were rebuilding the military. We're doing what 398 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 5: President Trump campaigned on plane and simple. So there's still 399 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 5: some little issues being worked out with a few guys at. 400 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 3: The edges, but in the big picture, I think we're 401 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: right on track and I think we'll get everybody there. 402 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: James, appreciate you being with us, and certainly a lot 403 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: to be excited about that is in this bill. For 404 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: those who are concerned about the debt, who want the 405 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: spirit and action of Doze to be enshrined in some 406 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: way in this bill, what do you say to them 407 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: and what can we point to that deals with getting 408 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: that fiscal house in order, not just for this year 409 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: but in the longer term. 410 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, great question. 411 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, it's important to note that this 412 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 5: is by far the biggest savings, which I mentioned a 413 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 5: minute ago, but let's put some points on. I'm back 414 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 5: in the back when Bill Clinton was president, Congress passed 415 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 5: a package that saved like eight hundred billion dollars and 416 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 5: spending cuts. Okay, this one's looking like one point six 417 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 5: one point seven currently will still be you know, iterated 418 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 5: on a little bit as it goes. 419 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 3: Through the Senate and everything, but more than double. Okay. 420 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 5: Congress literally has not done anything like that in over 421 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 5: thirty years. So right there, those are the biggest savings 422 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 5: that we've ever seen. We're doing something called recisions, which 423 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 5: is the stuff that dojes found this bad stuff. We 424 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 5: go out of Congress votes on it, and what's called 425 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 5: a recisions package that's actually separate from this bill, but 426 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 5: then it permanently pulls out that stuff out of the budget. Okay, 427 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 5: there's savings, and then in that and then you know 428 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 5: what's not counted in this bill, and it's just a 429 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 5: stupid quirk of how legislative scoring works. Is tariff revenue. 430 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 5: The President is bringing in hundreds of millions of dollars 431 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 5: of tariff revenue right now, and that money's not being 432 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 5: spent Okay, that money's not being spent in the big 433 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 5: beautiful bill or anything else. That's just money and the 434 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 5: treasury that goes straight to deficit reduction. So sometimes, you know, 435 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 5: when they call it the congressional budget off, which kind 436 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 5: of puts out the church, they're not being honest because 437 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 5: they don't add in the tariff for revenue and some 438 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 5: of the recisions and the different things that are happening, 439 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 5: so you're not really seeing the full picture. But the 440 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 5: fact is this is a huge step in the right 441 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 5: direction for getting the country on a better fiscal footing, 442 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 5: and we're unlocking growth. You know, there's three things we 443 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 5: have to do really to get to a balanced budget, 444 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 5: which the President hopes to achieve at some point before 445 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 5: he leaves office. But you know, at least in the 446 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 5: foreseeable future, we've got to grow. Okay, We've got to 447 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 5: unleash our economy. We do that through tax cuts. We 448 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 5: do that through deregulation, we do that through getting government 449 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 5: out of the way. We're doing that, right, that's partly 450 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 5: the President, partly Congress partly doge all of those things combined. Second, 451 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 5: we got to do spending reductions. I already told you 452 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 5: the historic nature of those spending reductions that we're doing. 453 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 5: And then the third thing is we've just got to 454 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 5: deregulate and we've got to bring more jobs in. And ultimately, 455 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 5: you know, in twenty seventeen, we actually collected more money 456 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 5: in taxes, which improved the fiscal picture as a result 457 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 5: of the tax cuts then we would have if we 458 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 5: didn't have the tax cuts. That's because more jobs were created, 459 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 5: more people were paying taxes. So we've got to add revenue. 460 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 5: The tariffs are doing that. We've got to cut taxes. 461 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 3: We've got to cut. 462 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 5: Regulation, unlock the economy through growth. 463 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: We're doing that, and then we've got to do spending reductions. 464 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 5: It's going to take all three of those things concerted 465 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 5: effort over a period of time. But if we just 466 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 5: stick through it here and we are able to do 467 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 5: it for four years instead of two, which means we 468 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 5: have to win the House majority back in the midterms, 469 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 5: then we'll be able to really be on a great. 470 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 3: Sustainable fiscal path. 471 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 5: So I think we're on the path, but you know, 472 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 5: it's not all going to be done in one bill. 473 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 5: We're going to have to do a couple and this 474 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 5: is a monumental first step, way bigger than anyone expected 475 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 5: months ago. So we're really proud of that, and we 476 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 5: just got to get it done. 477 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: We're talking to James Blair, White House Deputy chief of Staff. 478 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: You mentioned the border. I also think this is important, 479 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 1: and the tax cuts expire. So for people out there 480 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: who don't realize this, what happens if the bill doesn't pass. 481 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 5: Well, if this bill doesn't pass, First of all, economic 482 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 5: forecasters are said, we're going into a recession because taxes 483 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 5: are going to go through the roof. All of these 484 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 5: tax cuts we passed in twenty seventeen will go away 485 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 5: at the end of this year. Okay, So the average 486 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 5: family is going to pay thousands more in taxes if 487 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 5: the bill doesn't pass. Next year, businesses are going to 488 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 5: pay thousands more in taxes. We're not going to have 489 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 5: the money to secure our border. 490 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 3: Okay. All of these terrible things are going to happen. 491 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 5: It will be the largest tax hike in history if. 492 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 3: This bill doesn't. So that's just not an option. Right. 493 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 5: If we don't extend the debt ceiling, the country's going 494 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 5: to default on its debt, which could drive us into 495 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 5: a global depression. Right, This is not our fault. This 496 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 5: is Joe Biden's fault. We're just here cleaning up the mess. 497 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 3: And that's what we have to do. It's not anything 498 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 3: anybody wants to do. It's something that we have to do. 499 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 5: The country can't default on its debt or people would 500 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 5: pay the price in a massive way I don't think 501 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 5: any of us can even fathom. And then on the border, look, 502 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 5: we've got to ultimately have money to pay for planes 503 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 5: and law enforcement to get people out of the country, 504 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 5: and that money is coming in this bill, and that 505 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 5: is such a critical piece. Everyone needs to understand that 506 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 5: illegal immigrants in this country level that Joe Biden brought 507 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 5: in are a huge drain on our system. When you 508 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 5: talk about the spending, I mean hundreds of billions of 509 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 5: dollars being cost by illegal immigrants being in this country 510 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 5: and being on public programs are in place for American citizens. 511 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 5: When we get them out of the country, that's actually 512 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 5: going to lower our spending levels massively without doing a 513 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 5: single thing. 514 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: One of the changes in. 515 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 5: The Big Beautiful Bill will be getting millions of illegal 516 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 5: immigrants off of Medicaid. Okay, they're costing medicaid billions of 517 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 5: dollars a year. So the open borders that we have, 518 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 5: we have to not only have the border secure, but 519 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 5: we got to get these people out so they stop 520 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 5: draining our public resources. All of this stuff has to 521 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 5: work together to get our country on the right fifth 522 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 5: path forward. 523 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: Appreciate you being with us. Thank you so much for 524 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: giving us some of the details on the big beautiful bill. 525 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: What can you give us a census to what this 526 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: announcement is supposed to be about the Golden Dome. 527 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 5: I'm going to let the President break that news, but 528 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 5: it's very exciting stuff. Look the President and something he's 529 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 5: talked about for a long time. The President wants to 530 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 5: make make sure the homeland is secure. He wants to 531 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 5: make sure that other countries are deterred from ever thinking 532 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 5: about even remotely thinking about attacking our country. So it's 533 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 5: all part of his vision of having the most lethal 534 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 5: fighting force in the world. And that is what really 535 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 5: gives us the leverage to sit at the table and 536 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 5: demand peace not only for ourselves and our allies, but 537 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 5: everywhere across the globe and the world has been better 538 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 5: off when America has been strong in the world, and 539 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 5: that is part and parcel having a strong military is 540 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 5: part and parcel of that effort. 541 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 3: Peace through strength. 542 00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for the time. Keep up the 543 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: good work and we'll talk to you again soon. 544 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 3: Thank you, guys. 545 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: That's James Blair, White House, Deputy Chief of Staff. Buck's 546 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: gonna be excited tomorrow because his knicks are in the 547 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference Finals against the Pacers. I'm gonna be headed 548 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: up to the INNDY five hundred, which is gonna be 549 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: taking place this weekend in Indianapolis, and the NHL playoffs 550 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: are underway. Major League Baseball got a favorite team. My 551 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: Braves are finally back above five hundred. 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He 577 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: is on our friend Megan Kelly's program, and she is 578 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: She is making the case in case we've been making 579 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: all along, which is that he was part of the calm. 580 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: He's the wrong guy to be coming forward presenting this 581 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: as though this is truth telling. It's a day late 582 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: and a dollar short and then some and yeah so 583 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: we should. We'll get into some of that tomorrow. But 584 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: I mentioned this Rubio take and I just think this 585 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: is great Rubio. It's who is the who is the loser? 586 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: Who was gonna be Hillary's VP? I just know him 587 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: by face, Tim Kane, Thank you, Tim Kaine, Tim Kain. 588 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: Here he is trying to press Rubio on the africaner 589 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: refugees from South Africa, fifty of them, not even you know, 590 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: it's not even a big deal. But here you go. 591 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: Here's how Secretary Rubio handles it. Give him a plus. 592 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 6: I'm gonna ask you what so a well justified fear 593 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 6: of persecution. 594 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, they thought that their farms being burned down, the 595 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 4: would be killed. I think that's a pretty good justification 596 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 4: for wanting to come. 597 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 6: They're fat for their lives. And should it be applied 598 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 6: in an even handed way? That's an easy our foreign 599 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 6: that ourse. 600 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 4: It doesn't require even handedness. 601 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 6: The prioritizing the United phrase says you were entitled to 602 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 6: entrance as a refugee if you demonstrate a well justified 603 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 6: fear of persecution. 604 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 5: And not entirely. 605 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 6: I have a different standard based upon the color of 606 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 6: somebody's skin. Would that be except well. 607 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 4: I'm not the one arguing that. Apparently you are because 608 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 4: you don't know the fact that they're right, and that 609 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 4: whether to say that that would be no, I would 610 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 4: say a very easy thing. The United States has a 611 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 4: right to pick and choose who they allow. 612 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 6: It to be, even based on the color of somebody's skin. 613 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 4: You're the one that's talking about the color of their skin, 614 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 4: not me. These arms turned down and they were killed 615 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 4: in hand the color of their skin. Well, well, you've 616 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 4: demonstrated enough because you think anyone should be allowed into 617 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 4: this country for any reason, because they who has said 618 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 4: that we are going to prioritize people that come into 619 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 4: our country on the basis of what's in the interest 620 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 4: of this country. That's a small number of people that 621 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 4: are coming. But said this week and in others it's 622 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 4: harder to vet, and in another case that's more difficult. 623 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 4: But by the way, the United States submits people every year. 624 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, just just I like it. Don't give an inch, 625 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: stick to the truth, stay on it. Don't let them 626 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: do the usual nonsense here, Glaid, you remember this will 627 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: sound like a diversion, but it actually it actually ties in. 628 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: Do you remember their movie Hook with Robin Williams. Remember 629 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: that it's a good movie. Remember the the The guy 630 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: who's sort of the replacement for a while for Peter 631 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: Penn is Rufio, and they're all chanting Rufio, Rufio. That's 632 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: I want to do that for Ruvio here, like Rubio Rubio, 633 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: because he's kicking ass, and he's saying what needs to 634 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: be said, which is you, senator, don't like that we 635 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: took white refugees, Just say it. It Also, I think 636 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: is symptomatic of how good the Trump cabinet is at communication. 637 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: Whatever you think about the arguments that they are making, 638 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: they are making the most efficient and effective version of 639 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: those arguments. Whether it is with Pete hag Sath that defends, 640 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: whether it's with Rubio at Secretary of State, among many others, 641 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: Vice President J. D. Vance. There is a collection of 642 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: elite communicators younger oftentimes than a lot of the oligarchs, 643 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: oligarchs of the old elder groups of of the Congress. 644 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: Right and Democrats are actually quite a lot older on 645 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: average than Republicans are, and so I think it just 646 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: comes across as younger and more energetic. And certainly you 647 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: can talk about Telsea Gabbard, you can talk about Pambondi 648 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: and Christy Nome. I mean, this is a I think 649 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: elite level of communication that is taking place, and I 650 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: know Trump loves the conflict, and so when Rubio just 651 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: goes out there and stands up as aggressively as he is, 652 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: It's why Trump said, in particular, who takes over after 653 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: You're gone? He mentioned Jade Vance and he mentioned Marco 654 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: Rubio as two guys that were standing out at an 655 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: elite level to him. I just you know, there's a 656 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of great picks. 657 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 3: You know. 658 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 1: I was a huge JD supporter early on. I predicted 659 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: it and also said it would be a great pick 660 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: for Trump. Loved the JD pick Advice President. I think 661 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: Scott Bessen has served him very ably so far as 662 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: Treasury Secretary. Obviously, Cash and Bongino is like a dream 663 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: team over at FBI. I mean, there's so many good 664 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm not leaving anybody out on purpose. 665 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: A Tom Holman, I'm like the biggest Tom Holman fan 666 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: on the planet. But Rubio has really stepped stepped stepped 667 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: into the role and and is is like a key player. 668 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: You know, he's become a key player of this administration. 669 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: Deserves a lot of credit. You know, he had some 670 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: bruises after the first bout with Trump running against each 671 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: other in the primary. But Trump saw him as a 672 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: worthy adversary who could now be a key player on 673 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 1: the team. And Trump deserves credit I think for that too. 674 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: And and he's Rubio is really doing good stuff, because 675 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,760 Speaker 1: otherwise you're gonna let Tim Kaine do this and standing 676 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: malarkey on how but you brought in these refugees, what 677 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: about the It's like, yeah, they actually have a fear 678 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: of persecution, unlike the millions of liars you democrats let in. 679 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if we have this audio. We'll bring 680 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: it over tomorrow if we don't have it right now. 681 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: Also in that hearing, Chris van Holland, the Senator from 682 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: Maryland who went down to meet with Brao Garcia, the 683 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: El Salvador, and he said, I wish I hadn't voted 684 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: for you now, which is such a loser thing to 685 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: say in a public hearing in my opinion. And also 686 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: since Rubio came out of the Senate. It comes across, 687 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: frankly as a personal attack more so than a political one, 688 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 1: and Rubio says that that makes me feel even better 689 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: about the job that I'm doing, especially, and I'm paraphrasing, 690 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: because you're traveling to El Salvador to just have Margarita's 691 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: with terrorists or illegal immigrants, which is a great line. 692 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 1: It's a great comeback line, and I think Rubio is 693 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: delivering on a high level. We'll talk about some of 694 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: that tomorrow ereat down the absolute latest on the Big 695 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: Beautiful Bill. You just heard from James Blair that he 696 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: expected it to pass the House this week and to 697 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: pass the Senate by July fourth, so a lot still 698 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: to go there. We'll have some fun with Megan Kelly 699 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: fulaying Jake Tapper over the original Sin Book. All that 700 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 1: coming tomorrow. Thanks for hanging with us on playing Buck. 701 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: April showers may have come and gone, but that doesn't 702 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 1: mean summer showers have a clean gutter clears the way 703 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: for a care free summer. 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