1 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: Well, good evening, everyone, welcome to Stinchfield. 2 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: What is going on with the Magabase and Elon Musk? 3 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: Why would Elon Musk want to wage war with the Magabase? 4 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: And quite frankly, why would leaders of the Mega movement 5 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: want to wage war with Elon Musk. 6 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: We owe Elon Musk a debt. 7 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: Of gratitude with what he's done with Twitter, with what 8 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: he did for President Trump and getting his message out there. Really, 9 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: I'm not sure President Trump going into the Oval Office 10 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: would have been totally possible without Elon Musk and others, 11 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: of course, but this issue over the H one B 12 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: visa program is a very important one. 13 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: Because here's the reality. 14 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: I disagree with Elon Musk's stance on the H one 15 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: B visa program, a stance he is now backtracking from. 16 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: Now. 17 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: Remember he was totally pro H one B. This is 18 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: the visa program. You take engineers, highly skilled workers from 19 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: other countries India really and bring them to the United States. 20 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: There's lots of problems we'll go into that. This was 21 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: Elon Musk's tweets that really started the unraveling of his 22 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 2: relationship with some of the MAGA movement leaders. It reads 23 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: the reason I'm in America almost so many critical people 24 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: who built SpaceX, Tesla, and hundreds of other companies that 25 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: made America so strong is because of H one B. 26 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: Elon continued, take a big step back and go f 27 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: yourself in the face. I will go to war on 28 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: this issue, the likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend. Now, 29 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you I'll go to war with 30 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: just about anybody if I disagree with them, and I 31 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: think what i'm fighting for his best for America. I 32 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: really don't want to go to war with Elon Musk. 33 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: I think he's a decent guy. I've never mistaken him 34 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: for some giant monster conservative free marketeer. Okay I haven't, 35 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: but he's he's right there with us when it comes 36 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: to free speech. Now, remember all politics are selfish politics. 37 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: So what's best for Elon Musk and Tesla and SpaceX 38 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 2: may not be best for America. 39 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: So I don't blame him for loving the H one. 40 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: B visa program, which allows him to get very cheap labor, 41 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: cheaper than he could get, you. 42 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: Know, if he hired American workers. 43 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: But I'm telling you it may be good for those companies, 44 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: it's not good for the United States, and the program 45 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: needs to be reformed, not scrapped, but reformed. 46 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: So all of this unfolds. 47 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: You have people like Steve Bannen, a guy I have 48 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: tremendous respect for Laura Lumer. 49 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: I have respect for Let Elon have it. 50 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 2: This is the Bannon talking about how the H one 51 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: B program is bad for America. 52 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: If they had an example that they had tens of 53 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: thousand examples, they would rub your nose in it about oh, 54 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 3: these guys have a different skill set American workers. 55 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: That is a bald face lie. 56 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: This is just about a compensation in indentured service, basically 57 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 3: quasi slave labor in our own country by the enlightened 58 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: oligarchs of Silicon Valley. This is techno feudalism. Remember they 59 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: don't believe in the nation state. What they believe in 60 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: kind of a network effect. Well, remember, the big tech. 61 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: Oligarchs want to do what's best for them make the 62 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: most money and in many respects, again it may not 63 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: be great for American American workers, but they have a 64 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: duty to do what's best to make their shareholders the 65 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: most money possible. So I get where Elon Musk is 66 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: coming from on all of this but it's not good 67 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: for us. 68 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: Laura Lumer talked about it. 69 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 4: It really all begins with the fact that they subscribe 70 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 4: to a neo reactionary political movement otherwise known as Dark Enlightenment, 71 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 4: And essentially what that means is that they want society 72 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 4: to operate like a corporation. They believe that the most 73 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 4: high IQ people, the tech elites, the wealthiest people in 74 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 4: our country, should be the people who are leading our society. 75 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: All right, So here's why. 76 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 2: Also that Elon Musky, the big tech oligarks love the 77 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: H onevvisa program because the government created it and it's backwards. 78 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: Do you know, it's random, So you put in as 79 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: a company for a number of H onevvisas and it's 80 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 2: a lottery. 81 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: It's shosen at random. 82 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: There is no merit based system, which means some mid 83 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: level tech from India could come in just as easily 84 00:04:54,320 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: as totally great, smart, high level engineer that's going to 85 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: change the face of technology. They both have the same 86 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: chance of getting one of these visas. That doesn't make 87 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: any sense. It's got to be merit based. A lottery 88 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: system here is totally ridiculous. So we know that the 89 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: people coming from India will work cheaper, and they also bring. 90 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: Their families here. 91 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: So now you have a chain migration system going on, 92 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: and again Americans are losing jobs because of it. This 93 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: is a gentleman by the name of Kevin Lynn who 94 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 2: went on War Room this morning. 95 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 5: It was predicated on a lie that there was we 96 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 5: were going to be short in from the eighties. They 97 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 5: were going to be short some six hundred and seventy 98 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 5: five thousand STEM workers. In order to head off disaster, 99 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 5: we were going to have to import. 100 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 6: All these skilled workers. 101 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: Well, two things. 102 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 5: One, in a market economy, long term labor shortages don't exist. Why, 103 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 5: because workers will draw a take to where the demand is. 104 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 5: They'll go for the because demand creates higher wages, better benefits, 105 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 5: more job security. 106 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: It is true. And here's one place where Elon loses 107 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: his way. Just last week, Elon was quoted as saying, 108 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: there's an infinite number of jobs as long as technology 109 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 2: keeps growing. Well, if that's the case, then what do 110 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: you need H one B visa workers for Americans should 111 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: be able to fill those jobs. Now, is there a 112 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: problem in America with certain generations of not wanting to 113 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: work as hard as maybe my generation does. Certainly my 114 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: father and my grandfather's generation. Nobody works as hard as 115 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: those guys did. Maybe there's a little bit of a 116 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 2: problem there, But I think when it comes down to it, 117 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 2: when you're doing a lottery program and you put in 118 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of applications for a visa program that, 119 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: depending on the year, was sixty five to eighty five 120 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: thousand people coming in and it's taken up inless than 121 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: five days. Because hundreds of thousands went into this lottery, 122 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: you're not taking the best of the best. So I 123 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: don't know if you want to pick a fight with Elon. 124 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: He's a very powerful guy, but Steve Bannon maybe the 125 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: only guy who can because he wins. Right, I mean, 126 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: Elon did back off this. Now Elon is now saying 127 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: that the H one bvs A program needs to be 128 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: reworked and it's dysfunctional. That's a far cry from a 129 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: Maga civil war. Well, Steve Bannon's never been afraid to 130 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: go after Elon Musk. 131 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: This is a little flashback. He's all about the Chinese 132 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: Compis party. Well, you're talking about Tesla. His only sense 133 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: I only think of real value is Tesla. He uses 134 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: it for marginal wallans. He sells the sock. 135 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 7: The Shanghai joint venture is one hundred percent controlled by 136 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 7: the CCP. 137 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: This is why, this is why he never goes after 138 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: the CCP. This is why always backs off. This is 139 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: when they had the protests they had to protest about 140 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: the lockdowns of COVID. He will not do it. Elon 141 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: is a total and complete fund. 142 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: Look, I don't think he's a phony, but I don't 143 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: think he's totally connected to the CCP. But I agree 144 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: with Steve Benn and when you're a billionaire and you're 145 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: dealing with companies like Tesla, there's no doubt you have 146 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: to have connections into the CCP. Look, Tim Cook, the 147 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: head of Apple, was just meeting with President Trump at Marilago. 148 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: You don't think Tim Cook has deep ties into the 149 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: Chinese Communist Party. 150 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 151 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: All of these are problems, which is why I would 152 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: say to President Trump very respectfully, be careful about Elon 153 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: Musk because I don't want him to bring Chinese CCP 154 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: baggage close to you, President Trump. That's the danger about 155 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: Elon Musk right now. But his good far out weigh 156 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: is the bad. There's no doubt in my mind. So 157 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 2: I think we need some simple reforms through all of this, 158 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: which means you need a merit based system, not just 159 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: a lotter. You got to prove why you need an 160 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: individual worker. Show me that they have a skill set 161 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 2: that you can't find in America. 162 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: Find and we'll bring them in. 163 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: I also like the idea of auctioning off the H 164 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: one B visas. Now you get companies paying for the visas. 165 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: A free market society is going to say they're only 166 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: going to pay if they're bringing in the best of 167 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: the best. They're not going to pay for some low 168 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: level worker like that. So all of that could work. 169 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 2: But again Loomer sums this all up as all politics 170 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: are selfish politics. This is why the big corporate oligarchs 171 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: love the H one. 172 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 4: B system, billionaires in Silicon Valley, who are controlling the 173 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 4: flow of information, who subscribe to a philosophy that is 174 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 4: really trying to advocate for the elimination of democracy, the 175 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 4: elimination of a constitutional republic, and the implementation of monarchy 176 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 4: and America and Peter Thiel subscribes to this, and I 177 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,599 Speaker 4: really do believe that people like Elon Musk subscribe to 178 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 4: the cdeology jd Vance, who is now the incoming vice 179 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 4: president and has also subscribe to this edeology. 180 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if jd Vance does or not. We'd 181 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: have to ask him about that. I think maybe some 182 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: of the other people to do. But we'll get to 183 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: the bottom of it. 184 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 2: The good thing is it has started a conversation now 185 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: and Elon Musk is backed off his civil war with 186 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: Maga Well joining me now is the director of Immigration 187 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 2: Studies for the Cato Institute, a great free market think tank. 188 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: David Beer is with us. David, welcome to the program. 189 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 8: Thanks for having me on. 190 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: All right, David, So what is the solution with the 191 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: H one B VISA program? You scrap it all together? 192 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: Do you like any of my ideas for this? Where 193 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: does the Cato Institute stand in yourself? 194 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 8: I hope we stand for the free market. 195 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 9: Ultimately, having more people come into our country and contribute 196 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 9: to us, to our economy is. 197 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 8: A good thing. 198 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 9: It's a good thing if Americans join the labor force 199 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 9: and start working, that benefits us. The same is true 200 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 9: if someone was born in another country, they come here, 201 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 9: they work, they produce things of value that I want 202 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 9: I pay them. 203 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 8: That's a great thing. That's a win win. 204 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 9: Where do we get off rejecting the basic premise of 205 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 9: the free market and capitalist system. Elon Musk gets it, 206 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 9: and unfortunately he's a minority, but certainly I'm in his 207 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 9: camp on this. 208 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 2: I think what you say, if it was really a 209 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: free market, is legitimate. The problem is, I think the 210 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: H one B system has been bastardized. When you have 211 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: a flat out lottery, that's not a free market. A 212 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: free market where I come from, comes from. 213 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: The best of the best win. 214 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 2: Only the most successful and most well educated are going 215 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 2: the most qualified for the job is going to win. 216 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: That's not really how this works. 217 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 2: They put in a lottery and then they pick a 218 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 2: choose who they want to bring in here, and a 219 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: lot of them are low level workers, not these big 220 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: time engineers that we're told. 221 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean seventy percent the people rejected from the lottery, 222 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 9: we have a master's degree almost always and a stem field. 223 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 8: These are highly qualified people. 224 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 9: And you talk about how quickly it fills up, Well, 225 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 9: that's because we've had the same cap essentially for the 226 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 9: last thirty four years. 227 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 8: So if you're going to have the. 228 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 9: Same cap that you had in nineteen ninety before the 229 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 9: age of the internet. Yeah, you're going to have a 230 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 9: huge backlog of people who employers are trying to hire. Now, 231 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 9: if you look at unemployment rates in these occupations, there's 232 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 9: basically no unemployed person in these fields. 233 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 8: It just doesn't exist. It's like it's like a unicorn 234 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 8: out there. 235 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 9: So we need to have a system where merit is focused. 236 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 9: We need to get rid of the lottery. Totally agree 237 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 9: with that idea. That's not merit based. But the merriat 238 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 9: shouldn't be decided by some bureaucrat in Washington, d c. 239 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 9: It should be based on the market. It should be 240 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 9: based on actual needs of employers. Do you think the 241 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 9: idea of the government, do you figure it out it's 242 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 9: just right. 243 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: Do you think there's a chance that the reason why 244 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 2: there's no unemployed people in those industries is because maybe 245 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: we don't have young people going into them because they 246 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: know they're not going to get jobs in them. It 247 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: just doesn't make sense for them if we're taking all 248 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: these workers from India who will work longer hours and 249 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: will work cheaper. I mean, I get it as a 250 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: free market here. You heard me say companies their best 251 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: interest is hire the cheapest and best they can possibly 252 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 2: find to do the job. 253 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: That's their duty to the shareholders. 254 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: But we have to put Americans first, and I'm not 255 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: sure that's happening here. Maybe we don't have enough people 256 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: going in because the jobs are already taken. 257 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 9: Oh absolutely not. I mean, look, I mean that you 258 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 9: can get a job in this field if you can graduate. Unfortunately, 259 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 9: Americans don't want to do these highly technical jobs. If 260 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 9: you look at who is in graduate schools right now, 261 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 9: about eighty percent of those who are graduating in these 262 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 9: advanced fields are foreign students, international students who come here. 263 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 9: They're the ones who want to do this type of 264 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 9: work unfortunately, And yes, we should have encourage Americans to 265 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 9: do that, but we shouldn't force them. If we want 266 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 9: to do service sector jobs, we want to do other 267 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 9: types of jobs that aren't technical. 268 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 8: That should be our choice. 269 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 9: And ultimately, it makes Americans worse off if we ban 270 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 9: foreign workers from coming in who are doing these highly 271 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 9: paid jobs average salary twenty thousand dollars. 272 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: You and I both agreed. You and I both agreed. 273 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: You and I at least are not looking to ban 274 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: the H one B visa program. 275 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: We're looking to make it merit based. Now, I get you. 276 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: The problem is always with who decides the merit, but 277 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: in this case, somebody's got to decide. The decider always sucks, 278 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: and especially when government's the ones that's society. I'm with you, 279 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: but it's better than a straight lottery. So I don't 280 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: want to scrap the program ban it all together. But 281 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: in the end, here are you when you look at 282 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: the chain migration, when you look at the immigration problems 283 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: we've had right now, does this not just add to 284 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: our issues until we can get our own our own 285 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: country in order? 286 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: Should we just kind of slow this down a bit? Oh? 287 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 9: I mean just the opposite. They're creating tons of jobs 288 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 9: and opportunities. I'm just Elon Musk, of course, who's been 289 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 9: the most successful perhaps American in history with his companies 290 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 9: and how much wealth he's created for people. 291 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 8: But it's many other companies founded. 292 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 9: About forty percent of all of the artificial leading artificial 293 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 9: intelligence companies in the United States founded by former ations queens. 294 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 8: So we certainly need workers to come in. 295 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: Last question for you, because I'm a big free market 296 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: here as well. I like the idea of an auction 297 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: for these if you have an auction for these You're 298 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 2: going to force them to choose the best of the 299 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: best through the free market. Here, any thoughts on that. 300 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean an auction that's great for the government, 301 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 9: and the government's creating revenue. I want the private sector 302 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 9: to have that revenue and invested in their companies and 303 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 9: create more jobs for Americans. 304 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: Agreed. 305 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: The problem is you're dealing with people coming into the country. 306 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: Somebody has to regulate that, and that's where the government 307 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: comes in. 308 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: David Beer, it's great talking to you. It's great. It's 309 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: great debate, and I appreciate you coming on today. Thank you. Yeah, thanks, 310 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: all right, absolutely. 311 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: All right, folks, So talking of immigration, because this really 312 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: does get down to immigration, and I feel like it 313 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: does compound the problem until we could get it figured out, 314 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: not dysfunctional and working. Now we have another immigration problem, 315 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: that's the flood of people coming to America. There is 316 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: real information coming out that a storm is brewing for 317 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: a series of class action lawsuits that are going to 318 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 2: go after the Trump administration for his quote mass deportation plan. 319 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: It looks like these non governmental organizations, these quote humanitarian groups, 320 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 2: are in an all out fight to raise money to 321 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 2: hire lawyers and start the legal process to try to 322 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 2: stop Trump Tom Holman Ice from deporting all of the illegals. Well, 323 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: joining me now from Tijuana, Mexico. Real America's voice correspondent 324 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: Oscar Ramirez is with me, and I bring him in 325 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: because Oscar, it was your video over the weekend that 326 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: I saw talking about these quote, fake lawyers, fake humanitarian 327 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 2: groups that are about to wage a legal war on America. Maybe, 328 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 2: first off, tell me why you call them fake and 329 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: what you suspect will soon happen. 330 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: And good to see you, my friend, Grant. 331 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,479 Speaker 10: That's always an honor to be with you. I call 332 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 10: them fake lawyers and fake humanitarians because they have been 333 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 10: taking advantage of the American taxpayer with these federal grants 334 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 10: that they have been giving to them and exploiting this mass, 335 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 10: irregular and illegal migration through the United States and not 336 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 10: only through the United States, through the whole continent. They 337 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 10: have been doing this, and now that are there, federal 338 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,239 Speaker 10: grants are going to be cut because that is one 339 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 10: of the things that Donald Trump needs to do first. 340 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 10: And also get out of the Global Compact on migration 341 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 10: is going to cut the wings of this you know, 342 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 10: international migration through every single border, and it's going to 343 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 10: cut the wings to all these angos that they are 344 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 10: massively operating in the United States borders as says oh 345 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 10: I am and you unc are, and also the United 346 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 10: Nations with all these angos. So now they're going to 347 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 10: look for another market. And they're already pandering to this grant. 348 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 10: I saw three leftists Hispanic Latino networks already pandering to 349 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 10: the psychological damage, to the irreparable damage that they cannot be, 350 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 10: you know, doing their average day because of the massive deportation. 351 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 10: So now they're going to look for these civil class 352 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 10: action lawsuits and losses against the federal growth and the 353 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 10: federal government. 354 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 6: It's going to be Trump, all right. 355 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: So once I saw that, the crew went out looking 356 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 2: for proof of this, and they found some. This is 357 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: the American Civil Liberties Union, the ACLU. One of their 358 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: legal directors basically spell it out what you just told us. 359 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: Watch. 360 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 11: We've been getting our plan together for the possibility of 361 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 11: a second Trump presidency for over a year. We have 362 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 11: done legal analysis, we've done political analysis. We have taken 363 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 11: a hard look at the many plans or concepts of 364 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 11: plans that Donald Trump has come up with and we 365 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 11: have lawyers who are actually working on legal papers that 366 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 11: are meant to be ready to go when Trump takes 367 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 11: office in January. We also have plans that we've been 368 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 11: talking about with state and local officials around the country 369 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 11: who are interested in joining the fight to defend and 370 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 11: protect civil rights and civil liberties for people in their communities. 371 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: I want everyone to notice something very interesting, she said 372 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: there as Oscar giggles because he really she spells out 373 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: what you just told us. She says, if he takes 374 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 2: office in the beginning, I'm telling you the leftist not 375 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: stopping their quest to stop Donald Trump from taking office 376 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 2: January twentieth. We're not there yet, and so they may 377 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 2: play assassination, they may try to use fourteenth Amendment, they 378 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: may do all of these things. I'm worried about that. Then, 379 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: in the same breath, she says, when he takes office 380 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: January twentieth, so we know that they have other plans 381 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 2: as well. But Oscar, she spelled it out. She just 382 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: said they're hiring all the lawyers. This seems to me 383 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 2: to be all about money and nothing to do with 384 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: the well being of these migrants. 385 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 10: They did this exactly the same when Donald Trump became 386 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 10: president and they made eleven hell out of this, every 387 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 10: time making a lawsuit and profiting out of this human misery. 388 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 10: They know that their wings are going to be cut. 389 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 10: You're not going to be receiving no federal grants anymore 390 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 10: to all these NGOs. Your wings are going to be 391 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 10: cut in law in order it is going to come. 392 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: Now. This is extremely important. Grant. 393 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 10: The new administration and Tom Homan needs to put a 394 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 10: task force of citizen journalists and also a journalist and 395 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 10: ultimately at professional agents to document every single mass deportation 396 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 10: to prevent these groups, these progressive liberal mercenary groups like 397 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 10: the LCLU to start putting class action lawsuits to document 398 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 10: every single mass deportation to be prepared because they're not 399 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 10: going to stop. 400 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: Grant. 401 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 10: This is all about money. It's all about sucking the 402 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 10: teeth of thisman. You dishumanitarian crisis. 403 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been amazing on what your predictions have been 404 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: over the last few years you've been coming on this program, 405 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: and I don't doubt you on this one. Everything you 406 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: say makes perfect sense and great ideas. Let's hope the 407 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: Trump administration is listening. Oscar Ramirez keep up to good work, 408 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 2: my friend, and stay safe out there. 409 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: Happy New Year to you. 410 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 10: Happy New Year. Granted, it's always an interview with you. 411 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 10: Thank you for the invitation. 412 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: Hey, keep up the good work you're doing awesome. 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She has resolved climate change. 432 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: That next, welcome back to everyone. Over the weekend, the 433 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 2: thirty ninth President of the United States, Jimmy Carter, has 434 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 2: passed away. 435 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: It was one hundred years old. If you could believe that. 436 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: Look, the reality is. Jimmy Carter, I believe was a 437 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 2: decent guy. I think he was a nice guy, but 438 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: he was wildly misguided, unlike Barack Obama, who I do 439 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: not think is a nice guy. Joe Biden not a 440 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 2: nice guy. These people have agendas. I think Jimmy Carter 441 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 2: was just misguided. He was easily swayed by others, and 442 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 2: he went down a liberal agenda that was just absolutely 443 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 2: bad for America. I have conservative friends that appear to 444 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 2: be fawning over Jimmy Carter. Now now, I'm grateful for 445 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: his service to America. I feel for his family that 446 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: lost a loved one. Let me remind you who Jimmy 447 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: Carter really was. He set up the modern day liberal. 448 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: This is Jimmy Carter. Not long ago on Hamas. 449 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 9: Can any deal be done that doesn't involve sitting across 450 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 9: a table with Hamas. 451 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 12: I've met several times with Hamas leadership, and I think 452 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 12: they are willing to accept Israel to exist peacefully within 453 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 12: the six or seven borders, off some modification of those borders. 454 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: Hamas is not going to accept Israel ever. Hamas wants 455 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: them wiped off the face of the earth. But I 456 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: think that is typical Jimmy Carter. 457 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 2: He's trying to see the good in people, even evil 458 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 2: terrorists who were spawned from the devil themselves. And I'm 459 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 2: talking about Hamas now. He also wasn't very nice to 460 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 2: President Trump. But after his passing, President Trump offered up 461 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 2: a very nice statement with his condolences to the family, 462 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 2: thanking Jimmy. 463 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: Carter for his service. But Jimmy Carter wasn't always great 464 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: about President Trump. 465 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 12: Which I think sixteen of intelligence agents have already agreed 466 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 12: to say. And there's no doubt that the Russians did 467 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 12: interfere in the election. And I think the interference, although 468 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 12: now yet quantified, I have fully an investigator, was so 469 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 12: that Trump didn't actually win the election in twenty sixteen. 470 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 12: He lost the election and he was put in office 471 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 12: because a Russians interfere. 472 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: The Russians election denier. 473 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 2: I mean, I think people are feeding him because I 474 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: do think. 475 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: In his heart he was a decent guy, but wrong 476 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: on everything. 477 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: I mean, now he's only the third worst president in history, 478 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 2: behind Barack Obama and Joe Biden. 479 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: Of course, all of. 480 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: This started the weak mindedness climate change. I think maybe 481 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 2: Jimmy Carter started the modern day climate change fallacy with 482 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 2: his sweater speech. 483 00:25:55,480 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 13: Remember this, all of us must learn to waste less energy. 484 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 13: Something about keeping our thermostats, for instance, had sixty five 485 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 13: degrees in the daytime and fifty five degrees at night. 486 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 13: We could save half the current shortage of natural Guess 487 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 13: if we learned to lift thriftily and remember the importance 488 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 13: of helping our neighbors, then we can find ways to adjust. 489 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: Look, saving energy is a good idea, no doubt about it. 490 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm all for that. He installed solar panels on the 491 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: White House. He wanted to be. 492 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: Twenty percent of America should be getting his energy from solar. 493 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 2: We're not even close to that now, But I do 494 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 2: believe this was the start of the modern day climate war. 495 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: Joining me now, Climate Depot publisher Mark Morano, who called all. 496 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: This into question Mark, welcome back to the show. 497 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 6: Thank you, Grant. 498 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: Happy to be here. 499 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 2: So what's your thoughts on Jimmy Carter. We go back 500 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: to the sweater speech there and what did he mean 501 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: for the climate movement as we look at it now? 502 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 14: Okay, you realize how consequential Jimmy Carter's presidency was to 503 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 14: the corporate media and to academia and to the left 504 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 14: wing ideologues. Why because they basically look at Jimmy Carter 505 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 14: as the first version of the green New Deal in America. 506 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 6: So much so. 507 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 14: Excuse me that NPR, upon Carter's death at one hundred said, 508 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 14: his legacy is seen in climate action today. The Washington 509 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 14: Post recently said that if Carter had a second term, 510 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 14: we wouldn't likely be having a climate crisis right now. 511 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 14: They love the idea that Jimmy Carter put virtue signaling 512 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 14: utterly meaningless solar panels on the White House, and by 513 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,719 Speaker 14: the way, grant the statue. 514 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 6: You just mentioned. 515 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 14: They wanted to get twenty percent of our energy from 516 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 14: the sun by the year twenty twenty. 517 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 6: Do you know what that number is now? 518 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 14: After hundreds of trillions of dollars mandates banning the competition 519 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 14: of our total energy, solar is still less well under 520 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 14: two percent. 521 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 6: By one and a half percent of our electrical grid. 522 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 14: Solar and wind combined are under fourteen percent. There's no 523 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 14: there there, And this was back in the nineteen seventies. 524 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 14: They were claiming the sun was going to power everything, 525 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 14: and they still haven't figured it out. But he's the 526 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 14: one that came up, and this is why the left 527 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 14: likes him. He came up with austerity, with limits, with restrictions. 528 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 14: It was great because they wanted to take America down. 529 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 6: Now. 530 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 14: Jimmy Carter was asking us. Later on, President Obama didn't ask. 531 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 14: Joe Biden didn't ask. Al Gore isn't asking. The UN 532 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 14: isn't asking. They're forcing those kind of restrictions by rationing 533 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 14: not just energy. They've expanded it to our freedom of 534 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 14: movement by banning gas para cards. They've expanded it to 535 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 14: coming after plentiful food, going after HyG yoda agriculture, going 536 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 14: after methane and cow's trying to ration meat. 537 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 6: So Jimmy Carter started it, but. 538 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 14: He was a minor leaguer when you look at how 539 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 14: they expanded it. 540 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: Look, I was a little kid when he was in office. 541 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: And you go back to seventy seven, seventy eight, I 542 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: was eight or nine years old at that time, but 543 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: I do remember this. I remember gas lines, and I 544 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: remember my parents complaining about the price of fuel and 545 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: olo and behold under Joe Biden and even Barack Obama 546 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: in many respects, I remember the price of fuel, everybody 547 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 2: complaining about it. And I think there is a correlation 548 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 2: to this climate movement that they have going and the 549 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: war on fossil fuels that goes back to nineteen seventy seven. 550 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: And you mentioned the Washington Post of the climate crisis. 551 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: I don't even think we have a climate crisis. 552 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 14: No, of course not, but that's how excited they are. 553 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 14: And Jimmy Carter, I think you said it too. He 554 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 14: was a man who was basically easily led. He was 555 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 14: a weak guy. I'm telling you, the presidency was way 556 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 14: too big for him. And if you remember when he 557 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 14: was president his only term, there were all kinds of 558 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 14: academics talking about the presidency. 559 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 6: May be just too big for one man. 560 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 14: Guess when all that chatter ended in January nineteen eighty one, 561 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 14: when Ronald Wagan was sworn in. When the presidency it 562 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 14: wasn't too big for one man, but it was certainly 563 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 14: too big for Jimmy Carter. But you fast forward twenty fourteen, 564 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 14: Jimmy Carter is out there calling climate skeptics quote nutcases, 565 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 14: and he's giving major speeches on that. He was a 566 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 14: tool for the climate movement. He gave them the initials 567 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 14: they loved the idea of He gave them the crisis, 568 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 14: the energy crisis, which forced all of these changes. 569 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 6: They wanted to ration us. They wanted to keep us down. 570 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 14: And this is what even back in the nineteen seventies, Paul, 571 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 14: I'm sorry. John Holdron, who was Obama's science as our 572 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 14: later he wrote a column in the nineteen seventies lamenting 573 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 14: that America had too much energy and it was too plentiful, 574 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 14: and it was He lamented people getting in their car 575 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 14: and driving to the grocery store and buying a six 576 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 14: pack of air and driving back home. They wanted green 577 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 14: new deal, net zero Soviet style restrictions on us then, 578 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 14: and Jimmy Carter kicked it off. And that's why he 579 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 14: will forever have a special place in the hearts of 580 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 14: academia and climate activists. 581 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing. 582 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 2: Look, I'm grateful anybody steps up to serve I'm grateful 583 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: for it. 584 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: Takes a lot, but I don't think we should forget. 585 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 2: He really pushed us down a road that has snowballed 586 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 2: into something giant right now, and it didn't do America 587 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: much good. 588 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: On all of that. It's so funny because I'm. 589 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: Watching I'm watching conservatives like fawn over him, and I 590 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: don't want to be disrespectful as death, but I don't 591 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: understand it. 592 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: Last word mark real quick. 593 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 14: Yeah, well, you know Jimmy cart They say he rehabilitated 594 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 14: his image with all that, he seemed like a decent 595 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 14: enough man, but just remember who he was. 596 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 6: He was perhaps one of the. 597 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 14: Most incompetent presidents we had. The job was too big 598 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 14: for him, and he kicked off the idea of this 599 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 14: energy rationing. And that is what no one has let 600 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 14: go of since the nineteen seventies in terms of the 601 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 14: entire global order, the World Economic Forum, the United Nations. 602 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 14: They've seized on that, and Jimmy Carter will always be 603 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 14: their hero, which tells you he should not be our 604 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 14: hero as conservatives and anyone who loves freedom and liberty 605 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 14: and a plentiful, bountiful earth. 606 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: Isn't that the truth? 607 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 15: With that? 608 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 2: Though I wish his family the best and may he 609 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: rest in peace. 610 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: But point well taken. 611 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 2: Mark Morano, Climate Depot Publisher, Thank you, buddy, always going 612 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 2: to see you. 613 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: Mary christ of the year two you as well. 614 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 16: Everything all right. 615 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 2: Folks, Coming up, we will take a look at the 616 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: year in review and where are we heading into twenty 617 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 2: twenty five. Alexmarlowe with brightbart dot com is with us. 618 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back to everyone. As we moved into the new year, 619 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: I thought. 620 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: It was important to go back through some of the 621 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: big moments, the big stories of twenty twenty four. None 622 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 2: get bigger than the assassination attempts of President Trump. 623 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 3: You see something that said, take a look at what happened. 624 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: Over folks, and don't forget the fight, fight, fight, moment 625 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: that solidified President Trump not only as a brave leader, 626 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: but he solidified love of Americans in the hearts and 627 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 2: minds of so many people. I think it is ultimately 628 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 2: what put him over the top in this election. There 629 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 2: were a lot of big moments though in. 630 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four. 631 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: I want to bring in with me now my friend 632 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 2: Alex marlow the host of The Alex marlow Show, an 633 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: editor in chief over. 634 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: At bright Bart. Alex welcome back, Grant. 635 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 17: Always nice to be on with you, especially on a 636 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 17: festive occasion. 637 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, twenty twenty five I think is going 638 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 2: to be a very good year. You sent me a 639 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: list of some of the things that you thought were 640 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 2: really big. 641 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: Where do you think are you with me? Maybe the 642 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: assassination attempt the biggest. There were a lot of big stories, though, 643 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: I will say that. 644 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 17: Oh yeah, I think number one and two easily are 645 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 17: the assassination attempt in Joe Biden's debate, the first debate 646 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 17: where I think those two combinations sealed up the election 647 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 17: for Trump. I think, look, so many of us in 648 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 17: media worked so hard, so many people pounded the pavement 649 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 17: and knocked in so many doors and donated, and they memed, 650 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 17: and people worked their heart out to make sure Trump won. 651 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 17: But I will say ultimately those are by far the 652 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 17: two biggest things. Him surviving that assassination tempt, the way 653 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 17: he dealt with it, the five five five chant, and 654 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 17: then backing that up with Joe Biden just completely botching 655 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 17: that debate in that horrific way. I think those two 656 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 17: things combined and guaranteed that we're going to see another 657 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 17: four years of Trump and. 658 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 2: That really set up America for not just four years, 659 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 2: but beyond. Let me roll the clip of Biden's dementia moments, 660 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 2: at least one of them. 661 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: They were a whole bunch of the debate. But roll that. 662 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 15: Making sure that we're able to make every single solitary 663 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 15: person eligible for what I've been able to do with 664 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 15: the with the COVID be with dealing with everything we 665 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 15: have to do with. 666 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: Look, if we finally beat medicare, thank. 667 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 2: You, President Biden, President Trump. 668 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 12: He's right, he did beat Medicaire, beat it to death, 669 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 12: and he's destroying Medicare. 670 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: It's painful to wash, but that probably led to the 671 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: I guess so I've still gotta feel bad for the guy, 672 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: as much damage as he's done. It's just, oh, it's harsh. 673 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: Elder abuse is really what it is, Alex. I believe that. 674 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 2: But that led to a red wave, and in many respects, 675 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 2: the red wave gains. You're living California. California saw great gains. 676 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 2: It didn't turn red, but you got more Republicans voting 677 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: in that state. 678 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: Pretty amazing stuff. 679 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 16: Yeah, I think so. 680 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 17: I think that Biden revealed himself as a demented person. 681 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 17: I think that only affects people who weren't paying attention. 682 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 17: I read about this in Breaking Biden Grant, which you've 683 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 17: been so nice to promote over the last year. 684 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 16: It is I thought everyone knew that he was like this. 685 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 17: Of course, that was his worst night, and it was 686 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 17: particularly bad on that debate. But a lot of people 687 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 17: are talking about the media covering it up. I don't 688 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 17: think they covered it up very well. I think we 689 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 17: all knew he was demented, but was still somehow a 690 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 17: better political operator than the other people the Democrats had 691 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 17: to offer, and that was proven with the disastrous campaign 692 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 17: Kamala Harris ran, which is another one the sleeper stories 693 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 17: of the year. What a terrible candidate she was, and 694 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 17: she's dominating the primary field so far. 695 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 16: For twenty twenty eight. 696 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 1: Grant. 697 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 16: We could be so lucky if they ran her again. 698 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,959 Speaker 2: I mean, if when you say liberalism, Mark Levin says 699 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 2: it is a mental disorder, if the Democrats offer up 700 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris. 701 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: Is no other way to explain it other than that. 702 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 2: You know, what was a big story to me was 703 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 2: the left admitting that they botched it. Now maybe they're 704 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 2: going to roll back on that, but this is Joe Scarborough. 705 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: Of course, on Morning Joe Over on MSNBC. This race 706 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: still ended up being over. Before it began. 707 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 14: We had talked about a red wave two years ago 708 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 14: that never materialized. 709 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 1: This is a bit I've got to say. 710 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 10: This is the biggest red wave I've seen since Ronald 711 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 10: Reagan's forty nine state victory in nineteen eighty four. 712 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: Every it seems every Republican across the country improved. 713 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 2: Alex, you raised an issue to me before we came 714 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 2: on via text that the podcast culture played a big 715 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 2: role in that and the red wave. You've got a podcast, 716 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 2: I've got a podcast. So many big conservative names do. 717 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 2: Where do you think that plays in all of this. 718 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 17: I think this is really the end, the death now 719 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 17: of the establishment media. We were looking at when it 720 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 17: was going to happen. We knew that it was circling 721 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 17: the drain for years. Really, since Andrew Breitbart started blogging 722 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 17: fifteen sixteen years ago, it's really felt like we were 723 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 17: going to see a just tectonic shift in the way 724 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 17: people consume news. And I think it finally happened with 725 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 17: this wave of podcasts and Trump cementing his positions to 726 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 17: people who had never heard them aside from filter through 727 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 17: the New York Times and ABC News and NBC News. 728 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 17: On these podcasts that he did in the waning weeks 729 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 17: of the campaign, I think was massive, and I think 730 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 17: one of the reasons why Scarborough said this is the 731 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 17: biggest red wave. It's not just because of the vote. 732 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 17: I think it's because of the cultural shift that took place. 733 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 17: Andrew Breibar dreamed of a time when conservatives would be 734 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 17: ascended in the culture, when we would be the dominant 735 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 17: force that the left has been for decades in this country. 736 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 17: I think we're finally there where we have more cultural 737 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 17: clout and we're doing it through the UFC, We're doing 738 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 17: it through these podcasts, We're doing it through these sports 739 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 17: culture that's overwhelmed that all these people support Trump. The 740 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 17: end Zone dances with the Trump Dance. All of that 741 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 17: is new and fresh. It's a way we've got to ride. 742 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 17: But that's why it feels like the victory is so 743 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 17: decisive because of that stuff. 744 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I knew that shift was happening where 745 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 2: the conservatives of the world were not being shunned like 746 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 2: they were, especially in the US States. When I was 747 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 2: a Disney World and I was wearing the most most 748 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 2: obscene Maga hat you can imagine, ran with the metal 749 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 2: and I got more high fives and friendly smiles and 750 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 2: thumbs up. 751 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: And I was not expecting that. 752 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 2: My son, who's fifteen, was not expecting it, and I 753 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 2: knew there was a change underway, and that was over 754 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 2: the summer. 755 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right about that. 756 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 16: And by the way, Grant, that's not the grant. I 757 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 16: now we're in a Maga hat at the Disney World. 758 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 16: That's a shock by that. 759 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 17: It's no, it's I noticed this as well. I've got 760 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 17: a friend in La who lives in the middle of 761 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 17: town and he wears his Maga hat everywhere and I've 762 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 17: never seen him get anyone even looks side eye at him. 763 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 17: Everyone who wants to talk to him is positive. You 764 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 17: go drive down Beverly Hills is Trump rally all every weekend, 765 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 17: and you wouldn't be caught dead talking about how you 766 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 17: like Joe Biden and a barbecue in my neighborhood and 767 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 17: I live in La County. 768 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 16: It's it's you would never. 769 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 17: Do it, because it would be you'd be considered a 770 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 17: weirdo if you like Trump. People get it now, and 771 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,320 Speaker 17: that's totally different this time around. 772 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 1: This was a very. 773 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 2: Important year for American history, and I think history will 774 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 2: look back on it as just that, and we'll see 775 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 2: where we head. 776 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 1: Right now. 777 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be great, and a lot 778 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 2: of that is due to what you guys do over 779 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 2: at Breitbart. And we so appreciate all the help you've 780 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 2: given us this year, and I hope you continue to 781 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 2: come on with me Alex Marlow next year as well, 782 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 2: because I always enjoy having you on the program. 783 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 17: It's a promise, great job, grand congrats and happy to 784 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 17: your team. 785 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: Hey, thank you, and you too, my friend always. 786 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 2: All right, folks, you know there were other big stories too. 787 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 2: You can't forget about the Hamas attack Ukraine. You've got inflation. 788 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 2: All of these things were huge. We could literally do 789 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 2: a whole show on the big stories from twenty twenty four. 790 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 2: All right, folks, we have you covered for your New 791 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 2: Year's resolution. 792 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: All right, that is next. Stick with me nice five days. 793 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: We promised you this will change your life. 794 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 7: I've spent one the seven years helping people transform at 795 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 7: the sailor level. 796 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: This is your time. 797 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 8: I couldn't be happier. And in three days of starting 798 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 8: the five five challenge. 799 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: It's working. 800 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 8: I can't thank you enough. 801 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 7: You invested in yourself, and I'm going to invest back 802 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 7: in you. 803 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 4: I am literally a absolute changed person. 804 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 8: I love it. I'm in it for life. 805 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 7: This is your time, So if you put it off 806 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 7: in the past, don't put it off anymore. 807 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: This is your moment. Just listen to them. 808 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 8: Just listen to the five five five challenge. Please just listen. 809 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,240 Speaker 8: It's five dollars. 810 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 1: This is your time. If you have praying for an answer, 811 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: here's the answer to your prayer. So take an action step. 812 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 7: Join us on this five five five challenge. 813 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,439 Speaker 11: Get on the five five five, Get on the five 814 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 11: five one. 815 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: All right, folks, it's all about energized health. You know. 816 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 2: I love this program and helped me lose fifteen pounds 817 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 2: in just two weeks. 818 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 1: I have kept it off. 819 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 2: I continue to feel healthy thanks to inner cellular hydration 820 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 2: and the science behind all of this. But we're headed 821 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 2: into a new year, a lot of people making New 822 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 2: Year's resolutions, a lot of people set themselves up for 823 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 2: failure instead of setting themselves up for success. When it 824 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 2: comes to this process of getting healthy again, energized help 825 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 2: sets you up for success and this, my five to 826 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 2: five to five challenge couldn't. 827 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,280 Speaker 1: Get any easier. 828 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 2: So I want to bring in the founder of Energized Help, 829 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 2: John Jubilee John, Happy New Year, Welcome back, Happy. 830 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 16: New Year, Grant, glad to be here brother. 831 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 2: All right, So why don't you tell everybody that my 832 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 2: five to five to five challenge, what does it entail 833 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 2: and why are you so excited about it? 834 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 7: Well, I'm so excited, Grant, because you know, in my 835 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 7: own life, for ten years, I did every crazy yo 836 00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 7: yo diet you know that everyone else did, and they 837 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 7: all worked, Grant for a minute. 838 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 16: But life is a lot longer than a minute. 839 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 7: But after ten years of failing and failing and failing 840 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 7: and failing and failing and failing, that's when this breakthrough 841 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 7: science of intertalar hydration, you know, came about. And this 842 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,919 Speaker 7: changed my life in nineteen ninety seven. And since then, Grant, 843 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 7: I've been the same size since nineteen ninety seven, not 844 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 7: one medical visit since nineteen ninety seven. 845 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 16: So the great news. 846 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,439 Speaker 7: Is is is I felt great for the first time 847 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 7: in my life. 848 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 16: I felt great. 849 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,439 Speaker 7: My joint pain all went away, my hypertension, my high 850 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,760 Speaker 7: blood pressure all went away. 851 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 16: I felt good. 852 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,879 Speaker 7: And the side effect was, like you, Grant, I lost 853 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,280 Speaker 7: a lot more fat than you did, but I lost 854 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 7: a lot of fat, So that's I. 855 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 2: Was in pretty decent. I was in pretty decent shape 856 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 2: to begin with, but I needed to tighten things up 857 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 2: and really just improve. And boy was it easy to 858 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 2: have success. You supply everything you possibly need from the 859 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,439 Speaker 2: science behind. If there's individual coaching, there's weekly zoom calls, 860 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 2: there's weekly videos, all this stuff. You can't fail on 861 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 2: this with the energized health program. And here's what I 862 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 2: really like, John, New Year's is here. Everybody sets a 863 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 2: New Year's resolution. Everybody says, aright, I'm gonna lose weight. 864 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 2: You say, don't start the second or the third. You 865 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 2: and I talked about this. Start Monday the sixth. Prepare 866 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 2: your mind mentally for it. Am I right? This is 867 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 2: the recommendation. 868 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,919 Speaker 7: No, that is the recommendation, because you know, we want 869 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 7: people to enjoy the holidays, Grant, and don't set themselves 870 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 7: up for failure. Start on Monday the sixth, join us 871 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 7: for these five days and listen, guys, you're going to 872 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 7: invest less than a cup of coffee. Science, not a diet, 873 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 7: not another fad, not another supplement. You know you've already 874 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 7: tried all that, so why not try something that has 875 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 7: proven to be sustainable for twenty seven years, has helped 876 00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 7: tens of thousands of people, And I would encourage everyone grant. 877 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,280 Speaker 16: Go just do five minutes of research. 878 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 7: Go look at the Better Business Bureau, Go look at 879 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 7: Trust Pilot, Go look at Facebook and Google reviews. Look 880 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 7: at what thousands and thousands, tens of thousands of people say. 881 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 7: They all say it sounded too good to be true, 882 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 7: but it changed my life five years ago, ten years ago, 883 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 7: twenty years ago, twenty seven years ago. 884 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 16: This is sustainable grant for people. 885 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 7: And instead of a resolution this year, guys, why don't 886 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 7: we just do something that's going to be sustainable for 887 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 7: the rest of your life. This will be the last 888 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 7: program you ever do. We're going to spend five days 889 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,240 Speaker 7: with you. Look at it's just about forty five minutes 890 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 7: to an hour day and you can you can join 891 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 7: in whenever you want to, but it will literally transform 892 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 7: and change your life. 893 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 16: Guys. 894 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,760 Speaker 2: For five bucks, well, I can vouch for the energized 895 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 2: health system, I really can. So you can look at 896 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 2: the Trust pilot, you can look at the look at. 897 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 1: The better do all those things. 898 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 2: But take it from me, folks, I wouldn't tell you 899 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 2: that you know it on this program if it didn't 900 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 2: work for me. And I've done it, I went through 901 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 2: it and it works. So I urge you to go 902 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 2: to my five five five challenge dot com. 903 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 1: That's my five five five challenge dot com. The addresses 904 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: on your screen. 905 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 2: Start your new year off right, John Jubilee, We appreciate 906 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,880 Speaker 2: you and your support of Real America's Voice. 907 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on and happy New Year. 908 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:17,399 Speaker 9: Hey. 909 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 16: And one thing grant VIP guys. 910 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 7: If you invest in the VIP just less than one 911 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 7: hundred bucks, you can get a bio impedan's device that's 912 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 7: like a medical doctor visit. You'll know what your hydration 913 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 7: is for the first time in your life. So take 914 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,359 Speaker 7: a look at that one of the VIP. Yeah, you do, 915 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 7: and it works. 916 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 1: It works great and so great advice as well. 917 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 2: Again my five to five five challenge, My five to 918 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 2: five to five challenge dot com. 919 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: All right, folks, take a guess where this. 920 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,760 Speaker 2: Video was taken, all right? Not in the Middle East. 921 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 2: They are here, all right, folks. I want you to 922 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,280 Speaker 2: take a look at this. If you think that Israel 923 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 2: is fighting Hamas for Hamas's survive and Israel's survival. Think again, 924 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 2: Israel is fighting Hamas for our survival. That's not Gaza, 925 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,320 Speaker 2: that's not Jerusalem, that's Austin, Texas. 926 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: You're looking at Hamas. 927 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 2: Palestinians supporting lunatics take to the streets. 928 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: You see the smoke, you see the chaos, you see 929 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: the rabble rousing folks, Hamas warriors are here. 930 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 2: You don't need to be born in Gaza to be 931 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:33,399 Speaker 2: a Hamas terrorist that terrorizes communities when you take over 932 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 2: streets like that, and that is happening right here in America. 933 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,359 Speaker 1: Remember that as we head into the new year. 934 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,959 Speaker 2: All right, folks, we will see you tomorrow night, seven 935 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 2: pm Eastern Time, as we head into a new year 936 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 2: on Grant Stinsfield Stenfield's Army Rolls. 937 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: We'll see you that