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Speaker 4: I hinted at this yesterday. I mean, there's really only

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Speaker 4: He sent me about him throwing gas.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, did he tell me ninety five the other day?

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Speaker 5: They give him one Hey, put him in as a reliever,

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Speaker 4: Text Galt say, we need the we need the lowdown

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Speaker 3: What oh, he might get a bunk on the mound.

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Speaker 4: Great to see you, and I'm sure Milwaukee is feeling

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the panic level has gone down significantly. The torpedo

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine anything's ever has happened like

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Speaker 1: I said, the pitching reinforcements aren't going to be all

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Speaker 6: So it's sort of a question of, like we've seen

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Speaker 1: The past turn pitchers like that into you, the Tobias

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Speaker 1: at least win games with those guys on the mound

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Speaker 3: I like saying things before they actually happen, and everybody's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I knew Jackson Jackson Churio was going to have an

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Speaker 3: All Star year. When he's at the All Star Game,

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Speaker 3: have you seen or has the organization seen enough growth

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Speaker 3: the end of spring training to start the season or

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Speaker 3: during spring training to say, you know what, this dude

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Speaker 3: he could get MVP votes. Some are definitely saying he's

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Speaker 3: an All Star. Have you seen the growth already? Are

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Speaker 3: there things that they can point to it?

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Speaker 1: It's the quick adjustments for me, Like, there's still going

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Speaker 1: to be the struggles, and that's he's twenty one years old,

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Speaker 1: and some of that's within his skill set as well,

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Speaker 1: and he'll chase, he'll swing and miss. The defense is

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Speaker 1: as well. But the adjustments happened with him, and they

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Speaker 1: happened seemingly really quick. Like I just think about he

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Speaker 1: he's locked back in. He's he's swinging the bat really well.

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Speaker 1: His his bat speed's up a little this year, which

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Speaker 1: he's hitting the ball, he's crushing it. He If I

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Speaker 1: had to pick, yeah, he's absolutely my pick to be

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Speaker 1: the Brewers All Star this year. I'll throw Freddy Berlt

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Speaker 1: in that conversation as well. But look, he had five

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Speaker 1: almost five hundred in spring and then strike out the

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Speaker 1: first five at bats of the year. So I'm like,

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Speaker 1: never gonna care about spring training stats again. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: try to stick to it this time. I feel like

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Speaker 1: we all know it, and then it immediately goes out

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Speaker 1: five hundred. But yeah, it was just funny how that,

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Speaker 1: how that worked out the best spring training in all

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Speaker 1: of baseball. And then immediately facing Carlos Rodan, it's like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Were you in the scrum when Trevor McGill said tom

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Speaker 1: I was not so So you guys should have Trevor

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Speaker 6: He said.

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Speaker 1: He said that there was a New York reporter just

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Speaker 1: walked straight to him. He saw I mentioned the club.

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Speaker 1: I was walked straight to McGill. Why was McGill, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe they know he's opinionated on things. Who knows,

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Speaker 1: And he gave him his line and then they walked

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Speaker 1: away and that was it.

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Speaker 6: So that's that's Trevor McGill's side. Of things. I don't

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Speaker 6: know the New York reporter.

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Speaker 1: Side of things, but I don't think he like actually

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Speaker 1: hates the torpedo Bats as much as the comments made

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Speaker 1: it seem. But he'll probably stand by the Yankees like

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Speaker 1: they're gonna let the Yankees get away with it, for sure,

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Speaker 1: no doubt he would stand by that.

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Speaker 4: That's good.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, everybody's a lot more people than the Yankees

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Speaker 5: are using it. That was not trying to be that guy,

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Speaker 5: but that was the Jews.

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Speaker 4: It was fun. I thought it was a fun line.

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Speaker 4: You know, if no one's holding him to it, like

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Speaker 4: it's a court case or something. Yeah, fun line. He's like, yeah, of.

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Speaker 5: Course Yankees, that always happens.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people feel that way against the

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Speaker 4: evil Empire. It was fun. So anyway, Kurt, thank you

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Speaker 4: for stopping by. As always, make sure you check out

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Speaker 4: Kurt's working the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Also follow him at

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Speaker 4: c y R T H O G G on Twitter.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Kurt, talk to you soon.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks, says