WEBVTT - Bridget Jones's Diary with Amy Solomon

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<v Speaker 1>On the be Dol cast, The questions asked if movies

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<v Speaker 1>have women in them, are all their discussions just boyfriends

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<v Speaker 1>and husbands, or do they have individualism? The patriarchy? Zef

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<v Speaker 1>in best start changing it with the bel cast. Hey, Caitlin, yes, Jamie,

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<v Speaker 1>am I okay, this is not going to pass the

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<v Speaker 1>backdel test. But am I completely alone in having a

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<v Speaker 1>lifelong struggle with knowing the difference of Colin being on

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<v Speaker 1>screen and Hugh being on screen? Is that something you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever Have you ever been like, oh, yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>Colin Firth or it was huge, because it's usually one

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<v Speaker 1>or the other, but when it's both, I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know if my notes make a shred of sense. I

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<v Speaker 1>have not had this problem. I know that they're both

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<v Speaker 1>like stuffy english men, but they look different enough to

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<v Speaker 1>me that I can very easily tell them apart their

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<v Speaker 1>hair is different and their eye color is different, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're faces are so different, face structures different. But they're

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<v Speaker 1>the same guy though, you know, like they're the same guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they've both won awards, they've both pivoted to drama,

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<v Speaker 1>they've both they both say cute little things, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the difference is what, like, Hugh Grant is

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<v Speaker 1>horny ar like that Hugh Grant, he's got more charmed,

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<v Speaker 1>like raw charmed to him, whereas like Colin Firth tends

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<v Speaker 1>to be more like stoic and awkward. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like that. I don't know the difference between them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I refused to learn. I think that like Hugh

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<v Speaker 1>Grant is I mean, if we're like in a death match.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to turn men against men, but if we're

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<v Speaker 1>in a death match, I guess I would probably choose

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Grant to survive. Well, he was the villain in

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<v Speaker 1>Paddington too, so he's a part of the Paddington extended

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<v Speaker 1>universe and therefore cree and it's like, what is Colin

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<v Speaker 1>Firth three? I mean Colin Firth is bringing Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>what if I'm wrong? Colin Firth is in What a

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<v Speaker 1>Girl Wants? Is that right? Yes, that's him, not Hugh Grant.

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<v Speaker 1>See it's hard well because I haven't really seen that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Um here's a fun fact. Everyone. Colin Firth was originally

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<v Speaker 1>cast to be the voice of Paddington, but then they

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<v Speaker 1>thought that he just didn't sound quite right, so they

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<v Speaker 1>had to recast him. They're like, he's too similar to

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<v Speaker 1>Huge Grant. People get confused. It's there to me, they're

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<v Speaker 1>different flavors of the same exact person. Like if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you have like a little like a little volume,

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<v Speaker 1>if you turn the volume down, you get calling first.

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<v Speaker 1>I also get, and then if you bring Colin Farrell,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh my god, another like brunette European man

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm just like, I couldn't pick out of a lineup.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that moms know the difference, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>this is their names confused because they're both calling f

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<v Speaker 1>and then I get, yeah, I get Hugh Jackman and

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Grant. Not that the people confused, but I accidentally

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<v Speaker 1>call I switched their names around. Hugh Jackman. Has I guess, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Jackman and and Hugh Grant. I mean they both

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<v Speaker 1>kind of have a theater kid energy. But it's like again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like Hugh Grant the volumes turned down a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Hugh Jackman, it's like at a forty, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Jackman. Sometimes I'm like relaxed, but then other times

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. I don't why are we talking about

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about welcome to the Bechtel Cast. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not what it's normally like. I just I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to like, I'm feeling excited but insecure going into this

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<v Speaker 1>episode because I know there's a point in my notes

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<v Speaker 1>on this movie where I realized I had the two

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<v Speaker 1>character names mixed up and that I didn't know which

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<v Speaker 1>one was. I went through whole scenes of Colin Firth

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<v Speaker 1>being like, anyways, Hugh Grant, like, it's just it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>for me. I know that there's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of people who are like, how could you not

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<v Speaker 1>tell the difference between I don't know the difference between men?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's feminism. I'll do my best to guide you

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<v Speaker 1>through this. Jamie, thank you. Welcome to the Bechtel Cast. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know if this is your first episode, that funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah. So our show is the podcast where we

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<v Speaker 1>usually condemn the talking about men. But it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a loophole. If you're like, who are these people? True,

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<v Speaker 1>We're like exactly, um, But in any case, so the

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<v Speaker 1>Bechtel Cast is our show where we examine movies through

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<v Speaker 1>an intersectional feminist lens, using the Bechtel test as a

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<v Speaker 1>jumping off point, and of course That is a media

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<v Speaker 1>metric created by queer cartoonist Alison Bechtel. Our rendition of

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<v Speaker 1>the test requires that two people of any marginalized gender

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<v Speaker 1>have names speak to each other about something other than

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<v Speaker 1>a man for at least a two line exchange of dialogue.

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<v Speaker 1>Most movies can't get you there, Nor was the first

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<v Speaker 1>four minutes of this episode getting listen, it does happen,

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<v Speaker 1>It does happen. I just was. I'm so nerv us.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's going to happen at least once where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Also, naming them Daniel and Mark does not

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<v Speaker 1>help me, Like, I'm just like a great the two

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<v Speaker 1>most generic British guy names to describe the two most

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<v Speaker 1>generous British guy actor. Like, this is just it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be good. However, we have so today we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Bridget jones diary. It's been a popular request

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<v Speaker 1>really since the show has existed. It's, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of an early auts rom com staple, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it took us five years, but here we are, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited for our guest today. Yes, she is

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<v Speaker 1>a TV producer and her book Notes from the Bathroom

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<v Speaker 1>Line comes out March sixteen. It's Amy Solomon. Hello, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>this is so flun Sorry for really dragging out that intro.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it. I loved every second of it. Welcome,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for bringing this movie. What is your What

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<v Speaker 1>is your history with Bridget Jones? I guess this we're

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<v Speaker 1>covering the first movie, but in general with the cannon

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<v Speaker 1>of Bridget Jones. Um. I I don't know that I

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<v Speaker 1>had ever seen this. I do think i'd seen parts

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<v Speaker 1>because some some scenes I was like, oh okay, But

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I think my history is just that my

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<v Speaker 1>mom is so horny for these guys, like just oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, these are her guys. Moms know the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>I called her last night and said we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it today and made her. I was like, ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>if you had to pick Colin Firth or Hugh Grant,

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<v Speaker 1>she couldn't do it. She got all flustered. Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of wonder if we were like, who are

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<v Speaker 1>like two random British guys that we would do this

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<v Speaker 1>for today, because it's like, who would like my child

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<v Speaker 1>be like, what is the difference between these men? It

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<v Speaker 1>would be like Robert Pattinson and some mother guy where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big fan of Nicholas Holt, so he would

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<v Speaker 1>be in my top two. Dude, if you put Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Pattinson and Nicholas Holt on screen, we would be like

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<v Speaker 1>frothing to the ends of the earth and are and

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<v Speaker 1>like the next generation could be like, Um, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I see two identical men? You know? Is this the

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<v Speaker 1>only you know what I was? I meant to look

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<v Speaker 1>this up? Is this the only movie they've ever been

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<v Speaker 1>in together? Colin and Hugh they were in love actually together? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they're both in the Bridget Jones sequel Edge of Reason. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's got to be sorry if I'm being like unreasonable here,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like it was. It really was like so

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<v Speaker 1>confusing to me, So I think what the movie should

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<v Speaker 1>be this Bridget Jones has to choose between Alfred Molina

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<v Speaker 1>and Paddington and then at the end they're like, let's

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<v Speaker 1>be Polly beautiful a house together. That would be so nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also seeing that Hugh Grant and Colin Firth were

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<v Speaker 1>possibly born the same week. It says, oh, I looked

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<v Speaker 1>this up. It's the day A day apart. This was

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<v Speaker 1>in the IMDb trivia. There's something like planet wise, going like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it has nothing to do with looks and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a planetary thing going on, because they just give

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<v Speaker 1>you the same spiritual vibe. They both they both recently

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<v Speaker 1>turned sixty. Congrats to them. I honestly, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>I would, absolutely, you know, have a what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>What's British dalliance with Hugh Grant? You prefer I'm a Colin.

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<v Speaker 1>I prefer Colinn. See. I think I'm a hue. See

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<v Speaker 1>I've read too much about he doesn't seem like the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest guy. Oh no, I believe that it's called I

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<v Speaker 1>could see. I mean again, I guess I'm just judging

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<v Speaker 1>on strictly their movie characters. I'm like, oh, Colin Firth

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<v Speaker 1>is probably a family man and Hugh Grant is probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>I would highly recommend a foray into the Hugh Grant

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<v Speaker 1>personal life Wikipedia. It is unbelievable. Caitlin, Also, I am

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<v Speaker 1>as devoted to the Paddington universe as you are. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not as devoted because you're the queen of it. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much, But in that way, I'm a huge girl.

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<v Speaker 1>But now that I didn't know that about Colin auditioning

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<v Speaker 1>for Paddington's voice. Yeah. He in fact, not only did

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<v Speaker 1>he audition, I think they recorded basically all of Paddington's

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<v Speaker 1>dialogue until they like realized it just wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>really work out with just the way his voice sounded

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be too confusing. To Jamie, this is sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I meantime, I was like, I'm going to let the

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<v Speaker 1>girls talk about Paddington's I'm in Hugh Grant's personal life

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<v Speaker 1>section on Wikipedia, and it is so long. I will

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<v Speaker 1>summarize it for you that basically he had these two

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<v Speaker 1>wives or or like intense relationships where he basically flip

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<v Speaker 1>flopped between them and would have a baby with one

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<v Speaker 1>and then a baby with the other, and then to

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<v Speaker 1>marry the one, and it's unbelievable. It's too much to

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<v Speaker 1>fully get into here, but I highly recommend that. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>his name is Hugh John Mungo Grant. His second middle

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<v Speaker 1>name is Mungo, which is very British to me, very

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, like Mungo Jerry from Cats. That was exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what I thought it. Why aren't Colin Firth and Hugh

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<v Speaker 1>Grant in the movie Cats huge missed opportunity? If you

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<v Speaker 1>ask me, they would be like unique, I mean, everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>bad in that movie, but they would be like uniquely

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<v Speaker 1>bad in a way that would be really fun. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like Hugh gret could probably almost pull it off.

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<v Speaker 1>Colin Firth, I don't know. I don't know, he might.

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<v Speaker 1>He would be like Pierce Browsnan trying to sing in

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<v Speaker 1>Mamma Mia. Pierce Brosny is iconic in Mamma Mia because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Pierce Browsney knows in Mamma Mia that

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<v Speaker 1>he cannot haul a note, but he's just like karaoke

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<v Speaker 1>committing it at twelve. It's amazing how many of those

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<v Speaker 1>movies have you guys done. We've just done the first one.

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<v Speaker 1>Although I feel like there's now that I've seen Mamma Mia,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go again. I feel like there is a

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<v Speaker 1>fair amount of discourse at Yeah, and we love to

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<v Speaker 1>cover a share a movie always always a bonus and

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<v Speaker 1>it's the superior Mama me a movie because Fernando is present, true, true,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. Anyway, should we talk about the actual movie

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<v Speaker 1>Bridget Jones Diary? Yes? Sorry, Caitlin, what is your history

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<v Speaker 1>with Bridget Um? I saw it like right after it

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<v Speaker 1>came out, which was late or no, I guess mid

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<v Speaker 1>two one. The only thing I remembered about the actual

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<v Speaker 1>like plot of the movie was the end when Colin

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<v Speaker 1>Firth sees the diary, sees all the like stuff she

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<v Speaker 1>wrote in it about how she hates him, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he leaves. Then he's like, just kidding, I went out

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<v Speaker 1>to buy you a new diary. And that's the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing I remembered. Isn't that the first time we see

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<v Speaker 1>the diary? Um, I think you see like little glimpses

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<v Speaker 1>of it throughout. But I felt like at the very

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<v Speaker 1>end of the movie is the first time she sits

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<v Speaker 1>down and like writes it her diary. It's called Bridget Jones, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we get most of the diary is

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<v Speaker 1>like a d R voiceover. Yeah, sorry, what am I?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fired from Hollywood? I have no no a d

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<v Speaker 1>R far the more technical term. Also, we are recording

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<v Speaker 1>at one PM. But I did pour some Pino griggio

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<v Speaker 1>into a cup because I'm like, we're talking about Bridget Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one pm on a Monday, and yet here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we've been in quarantine. Wait. One more thing

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<v Speaker 1>I learned in the trivia online was that British people

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<v Speaker 1>blamed they blamed Bridget Jones sales of chardonnay going down.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa because she was like this sad Zack who, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to get into this because quote unquote sad

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<v Speaker 1>Zack who like chardinary and then the sales went down

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<v Speaker 1>in the years after the movie came out. That's really funny.

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<v Speaker 1>And also I don't know, like I know that movies

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<v Speaker 1>influids sales, but I feel like usually it's an overstatement

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<v Speaker 1>where they're like et saved Reese's pieces, and like, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, I don't care, and second of all, it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like an overstatement. Um, Bridget, It's just like how

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<v Speaker 1>millennials are killing the diamond industry, like Bridget Jones is

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<v Speaker 1>killing the chardonnay industry. It was like, leave her alone.

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<v Speaker 1>My whole thing with this movie is leave Bridget Jones alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Um My, um, what's your history? My history is I

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<v Speaker 1>think pretty close to Amy's. Like I think I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>this movie, but also I'm not totally sure that I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen this movie. I definitely cultural osmosis, I knew what happen,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also like going in, I'm like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember if she ends up with anyone at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember kind of where it. I don't I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure, but I know that I've taken a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of Bridget genes and through cultural osmosis, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more complicated thoughts on the movie and like

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<v Speaker 1>the property in general than I thought I was, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to talk about it. Yeah, well let's do that,

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<v Speaker 1>shall we. Okay, So here's the recap. Bridget Jones, who,

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<v Speaker 1>of course is Renee's Salwager, who is not British, but

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<v Speaker 1>she does. And I'm no expert by any means, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think she does a convincing enough English accent that

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait a minute, is Renee Sellwager one

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<v Speaker 1>of those like British actors who just always gets cast

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<v Speaker 1>in American roles And I just didn't know this about her,

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<v Speaker 1>and I like looked it up and she is, in

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<v Speaker 1>fact American, but I was like, doing a pretty good job.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess people were really mad when she got cast

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<v Speaker 1>because it was such an iconic British gal from the books,

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<v Speaker 1>but then people had to admit she really pulled it off,

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<v Speaker 1>actually got nominated for an Oscar. I know, it's so

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<v Speaker 1>bizarre that we're so cool with British actors doing American accents,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's the second American actor as a British accent.

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<v Speaker 1>Were like, that is unbelievable. It's like, no offense, England,

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<v Speaker 1>we have more actors, our country is bigger, so make

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<v Speaker 1>space for random American white girls doing British accents that

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<v Speaker 1>are pretty convincing. I thought, yeah, I was Genuinely I

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<v Speaker 1>assumed the same thing Kalin, that she was British but

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<v Speaker 1>played American often, just like I mean, god, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like every popular American actress is secretly Australian. So like

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<v Speaker 1>whatever I thought it was, really I was really impressed.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I looked up on that horrible website Cora

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<v Speaker 1>dot com, where it's like basically Yahoo answers too, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, do people like Renee Zellwigger's accent and

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<v Speaker 1>Britet Jones And generally yes, some some British people say

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<v Speaker 1>that it's a bit too posh for a middle class person,

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<v Speaker 1>but then the others will excuse the fact that she's

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<v Speaker 1>clearly trying to like change, She's trying to, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>impress people and act wealthier than she is, so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a sense right, she's giving such a nuanced performance. Why

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<v Speaker 1>didn't she get the oscar for bridget Jobs read that

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<v Speaker 1>she also did the accent between takes, like, just on,

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<v Speaker 1>since you stayed in character, which I have mixed feelings about.

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<v Speaker 1>Really well, just I totally respect it to stay into it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that makes a lot of sense. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you are on a set and someone's doing that, it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just talk normally. You know. I, well, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>putting myself in her shoes, I'd be so afraid that

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<v Speaker 1>I would lose it. Advice stop, that's my thing. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, I have to stay in it. What if

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<v Speaker 1>it goes away? I also love when women even go

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<v Speaker 1>two percent method, because men get away with the weirdest

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<v Speaker 1>ship totally, and then the second of woman does something weird,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, she's difficult. On Barry, we we have all

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<v Speaker 1>those guys who play the Chechens, and they were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of during the pilot deciding like, are we going to

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<v Speaker 1>stay in this accent between scenes? And Bill Hayter was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, no, but that's also like it's pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing a pretty you know, no ho Hank is

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty goofy character, so it's it's a lot, but

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<v Speaker 1>yeah he's a but yeah, I respect Renee for staying

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<v Speaker 1>in it. For sure. I would be afraid that Hugh

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<v Speaker 1>Grant would make fun of me. He seems like the

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<v Speaker 1>type that would be like, okay, knock it off, but

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<v Speaker 1>yeah respect um okay. So Bridget Jones has been single

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<v Speaker 1>for thirty two years, which I guess is the movie's

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<v Speaker 1>way of saying that she's thirty two years old. Yes, well,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're a maybe you are a single. It's true

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<v Speaker 1>her mom or her mom is always trying to set

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<v Speaker 1>her up with someone, and this year, at a holiday party,

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<v Speaker 1>her mother tries to set her up with Mark Darcy

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<v Speaker 1>that's Colin Firth and uh, she's actually interested in him,

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<v Speaker 1>but he is not interested in her, and she overhears

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<v Speaker 1>him saying some very mean things about her, and she

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<v Speaker 1>realizes that if she doesn't make some changes soon, she's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be alone forever or end up like Glenn Close

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<v Speaker 1>in Fatal Attraction, which I love I have a whole

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<v Speaker 1>but like I love that you see Bridget Jones like

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<v Speaker 1>part of her insecurity is stemming from the media she's consuming,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if only she could have listened to the bed plcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, especially because in our episode on Fatal Attraction

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about what a like societal and cultural impact

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<v Speaker 1>that movie had, and like everyone who saw it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, women are so unstable and they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>kill me. I very rarely see like a had her

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<v Speaker 1>own woman on screen and be like I could save her.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's how I feel about Bridget Jones. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish we could just hang out with her and

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<v Speaker 1>her friends twenty years ago, right. Um. So then in

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<v Speaker 1>her diary, which she is in theory writing in throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the movie, which we mostly get through like her voiceover narration,

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<v Speaker 1>she makes a list of what she wants to accomplish,

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<v Speaker 1>which is to lose weight, to find a nice boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>and to stop fantasizing about her boss, Daniel Cleaver and

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<v Speaker 1>that is Hugh Grant. And then so we see her

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<v Speaker 1>at work she has a job in publishing. We also

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<v Speaker 1>meet her friends. Jude Shahza is that her name? I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I was curious about Shaw's question mark. She seemed fun,

0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:08.760
<v Speaker 1>but she only but she only shows up to say fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>So she says fun fun fun funck um and then

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<v Speaker 1>Tom that's like their friend group. So then Bridget starts

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<v Speaker 1>flirting with Daniel at work, and by that I mean

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<v Speaker 1>her boss begins to sexually harass her in the workplace email. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow, MSN email representation. My mom feels

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<v Speaker 1>so seen right now. Um. I mean there's so much

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<v Speaker 1>bushemy test in this movie of like, if Steve Bushemy

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<v Speaker 1>is your boss sending this email? Um, are we okay

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<v Speaker 1>with it? No? We're not. Seriously ah So, then the

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<v Speaker 1>following night is this big launch event for their publishing

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<v Speaker 1>company's new book, Kafka's Motorbike. Any Funny, Any funny? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, Okay, I'm gonna go there. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be fabulous, but I'm going to ignore Daniel because she's

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<v Speaker 1>playing hard to get. And then who shows up to

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<v Speaker 1>this event but Mark Darcy and also the real Salomon

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<v Speaker 1>Rushdie playing I did not realize that. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>like it. It's pretty amazing. There's also I guess in

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<v Speaker 1>that scene there's there's like a whole pride and prejudice

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<v Speaker 1>thing that we can talk about in a bit about this,

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess that Helen Fielding, who are like is

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<v Speaker 1>Bridget Jones and wrote Bridget Jones really loved the Pride

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<v Speaker 1>and Prejudice mini series that starred Colin Firth, and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess whoever the other guy in that series is appears

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<v Speaker 1>in the movie in a small role at several times,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like just a huge Pride and Prejudice

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<v Speaker 1>mini series stand. So they're all over the place. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all connected. The real Id and Prejudice heads love that

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<v Speaker 1>mini series. Yeah, that's they're big, like over the movies

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<v Speaker 1>or any adaptation. That's their thing. I should watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I'm like, I'm a basic. I've seen the Kia

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<v Speaker 1>Knightley one and I'm like cool and then I was

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<v Speaker 1>strapped to a table and forced to read it in

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<v Speaker 1>ninth grade. But other than that, well, isn't isn't Hugh

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<v Speaker 1>Grant in Sense and Sensibility like the other big Austin

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<v Speaker 1>like major motion picture adaptation. Oh, Gemma, Gemma Jones is

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<v Speaker 1>also in it? Who plays bridgets mom? Yeah, there's like

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<v Speaker 1>so much did sentence? Yeah, sentence Sensibility would have come

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<v Speaker 1>out before this. Yeah. I think I'm pretty sure that

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<v Speaker 1>Helen Fielding like was really deliberately being like anyone who's

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<v Speaker 1>been in a Jane Austen adaptation. Free for all welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>It is more of a I mean, we can get

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<v Speaker 1>into this, but it's more of a like there's slight

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<v Speaker 1>homages to pride prejudice, it's not really that, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't find that it's really based

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<v Speaker 1>on it. Yeah. Besides, there's a character named Darcy and

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. Yeah. I read like the list of

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<v Speaker 1>like direct references, but they are all kind of more

0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:18.639
<v Speaker 1>like homage e than actual plot like adaptation. Yeah. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so Mark Darcy is at this book event and you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell that he's like, hm, wait a minute, maybe

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:28.120
<v Speaker 1>there is something to this Bridget Jones. But then Hugh

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<v Speaker 1>Grant swoops in and takes her out to dinner, and

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out that he and Colin Firth used to

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<v Speaker 1>be good friends. Sorry, I am going to switch between

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<v Speaker 1>their character names and the actor's names. Um I will,

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<v Speaker 1>it won't help. But it turns out that used to

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<v Speaker 1>be good friends until according to Daniel A K. Hugh

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<v Speaker 1>Grant Mark a K. Colin Firth had an affair with

0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Cleaver's fiance. Then Bridget and Daniel kiss, they have sex,

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:08.480
<v Speaker 1>they become an item. Um, but then he starts to

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<v Speaker 1>get a bit dodgy and he has to bail on

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<v Speaker 1>this like family friends party that they were supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>go to. But you'll never guess who is at the

0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>party who. It's Mark Darcy and he's also we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>him with this woman, Natasha, who is a colleague of his.

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<v Speaker 1>They're both lawyers or barristers, which I guess is a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, I don't, I don't know. Such a good word.

0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:38.920
<v Speaker 1>It's really good. And then when you find out whether

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<v Speaker 1>it actually means, you're like, oh, but anyway, So this

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Natasha woman is with him and she likes him, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting confused as to like whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>they were ever romantically involved at any point in this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Very confusing. There's right, okay, at that party earlier, she

0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:04.920
<v Speaker 1>says something to the effect of like I'm working on it. Yeah,

0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:08.440
<v Speaker 1>like she's And then at the end, Colin First's dad

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 1>is like, maybe she'll be our daughter in law, and

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like, does that mean they're together? I think they

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:17.680
<v Speaker 1>are like supposed to be almost engaged, if not engaged.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing that confused me in this movie is

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<v Speaker 1>the other woman for Booth Hugh Grant and Colin Firth

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<v Speaker 1>part look really similar, and so like I had to

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<v Speaker 1>I don't usually when I'm prepping for rom com episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't usually need to watch the movie twice. But

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<v Speaker 1>so many of the key players in this movie have

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<v Speaker 1>the same haircut that I was like, wait a second,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's like Lisa Lisa, and then there's Natasha, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have the same two thousand one hairt Yes, yeah,

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I know, which can be easily solved by putting a

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<v Speaker 1>wig on one of them. Like, no one on the

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 1>set was like, the two women have the same hair,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's it's so confusing, so confusing. This is also

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<v Speaker 1>what happens when there are just too many white people

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:13.680
<v Speaker 1>in a movie. Problem easily solved by diversifying your cast

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 1>even a little, like make your movie better and help

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 1>the audience. England is a diverse place. It's just yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but yes, the two the two the two other women

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<v Speaker 1>have the same hair and so I was also confused

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 1>about what was going on there. But I think that

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<v Speaker 1>by the end, at the beginning, she's working on it.

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<v Speaker 1>By the end, they're engaged, and I'm assuming that there's

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<v Speaker 1>some like cut scenes or something, because it's really right

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 1>skip over like the developing of their relationship quite a bit.

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 1>They're at least in a relationship enough that they're like

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<v Speaker 1>in a canoe together, which is kind of intimate, right,

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 1>but Bridget and Bridget and Hugh Grant or in separate canoes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how you know it's not gonna last true. And

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>in that scene he makes a Titanic reference because he says,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm King of the World. Amazing, and we're like, wow,

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 1>he is a keeper, but I mean to tie everything

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:17.880
<v Speaker 1>back together again. In Love actually another movie that both

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 1>of those actors are in. We see, oh no, it's

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 1>not calling Firth. It's Liam Neeson. Never mind, it's Liam

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 1>Neeson who's watching Titanic with his like stepson, And for

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 1>a second I thought it was calling Firth. But that

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 1>is not who that is anyway. Too many old white guys, Okay.

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>So Bridget goes back to London and discovers that Daniel

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 1>is cheating on her with this younger woman from like

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:51.479
<v Speaker 1>the New York office of their publishing company, and not

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 1>only that, they are engaged. So then Bridget tries to

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 1>get her life together. She tells Daniel off, she quits

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:01.919
<v Speaker 1>her job, she gets a new job in television at

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>a new station, um which doesn't seem to be any

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 1>better than her old job because her new boss also

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:11.160
<v Speaker 1>sexually harasses her. I know, I was like, god, this

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 1>is like yikes. There are elements of this story where

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, that's so depressing, but also like reflective

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:21.199
<v Speaker 1>of life. It's like, oh, what fresh hell, I'm going

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>to career change because my first boss was making my

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:26.879
<v Speaker 1>life impossible and now I'm going to go to a

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:29.439
<v Speaker 1>new career or my life will be impossible. But in

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>a different way. I know it's it's not the most optimistic.

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>So then she goes to a dinner party where Mark

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Darcy just happens to be and he's everywhere, and which,

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 1>like this movie, is Colin first character either very coincidentally

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 1>being in the same place as Bridget Jones or deliberately

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 1>showing up unannounced to where she is. I guess I would.

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, okay, if we did like a full

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 1>investigative thing into like Colin firth entrance scenes, I feel

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 1>like that's something you see a lot of him being

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 1>like oh hello, you know, like uh huh, he knows

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>you're there first. He's like, I guess it's not even

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>a scene entrance because he's just he's been there. You're

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 1>suddenly there with him. He's been and then he just

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>like kind of turns around and he's like, OI, I

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 1>feel like a cross genres. This is pretty common. Well.

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I took it upon myself to watch both sequels to

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>this movie briefly ever know um, and the same thing

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>keeps happening with his character in particular throughout and but

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 1>also like it happens also with Hugh Grant more and more,

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 1>like it's just I mean, I do think that there

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>is I mean we've we've kind of talked about this before,

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>like the whatever, how it's supposed to seem inherently romantic

0:29:57.160 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 1>when ah, when a man shows up unannounced without checking

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 1>in about how you feel first, because Hugh Grant's character

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 1>does it in this movie too. He shows up at

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 1>her house assuming that she's alone on her birthday and

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>then it's like, oh, I got my face. I guess

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>that you're you have a life, and I just never

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>considered that before. Also, she's had this she for all

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>that is very sad how they make her out life

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>out to be. She has a great group of pals,

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>she has a support system, like totally people are I'm

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 1>just like, I just wish Bridget Jones had someone in

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 1>her life that was like, you're great, relax, like it's

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>all good. You're you're a normal person and you're figuring

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 1>it out. Stop why are you? Why are these identical

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 1>men yelling at you all the time? They're both so terrible.

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I have a hole will get into why all the

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>reasons that they're both such tracks like different flavors of toxic. Okay,

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 1>So Mark Darcy is at this like dinner party with

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of other couples, and this is the scene

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:03.959
<v Speaker 1>where he's like, Okay, Bridget, I know I've been like

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 1>really mean to you up until this point, but I

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 1>just want you to know that I actually like you

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>very much, and I like you just the way you are.

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>And she's very taken aback and confused by this also

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 1>because she's like, but I hate him. I think this

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>is the part that and I guess because I am

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>admittedly not a Jane austen Head. So Jane austen Heads

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 1>sound off in the comments that I'm totally off faith here,

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 1>but it's this plot point that I feel like is

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 1>especially Jane austen E and that it feels like something

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>that is weird to be happening in this century where

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 1>I like, I feel like there's a lot of like

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 1>female protagonists written by women in the eighteen hundreds who

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>like create emotional intimacy, but it's still in a pretty

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 1>toxic way with a pretty toxic person. I'm thinking of

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 1>like Pride and Prejudice and Jane Air of like, oh, like,

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>this guy has been nothing but cruel to me, but

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>he's only cruel because of his own ship, So I

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>guess I forgive him. I feel like that's like a

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 1>common thing. And then Bridget Jones like, I don't know,

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I kind of is expecting, like Bridget Jones like the

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 1>writing to comment on it a little more, but it

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of just happens, right, because well, like the one

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>centuries version of that is like men nagging women directly

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 1>to their face as a flirtation tactic, but not like

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 1>just like it's very old fashioned nagging that Colin Firth

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>is doing a right. He doesn't really ever speak to

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>her on this till this scene, right, he just kind

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 1>of glares at her and says something very awful about

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 1>her to his mom at that party in the beginning, right,

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 1>So how does he when he says as you are,

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>and also he like insults her forty times and then

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 1>he's like, but all these negative qualities that I just

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 1>made you feel bad about is why you're not like

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the other girls. And you're just like, oh gosh, I

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 1>want more for her. It makes my head hurt. Bridget's great.

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 1>She should just she should just get a cat and

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, live her best single life. Keep watching Frasier.

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, I that was another. I was like, wow,

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 1>feeling lonely and turning on Frasier energy. Been there, been there.

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>There's so many elements. I mean, we'll get into it more,

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 1>but like, there's so many elements of Bridget that I

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>really love. And I feel like it's like you don't

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:35.719
<v Speaker 1>often get to see women personally and privately dealing with

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 1>their insecurities, even though a lot of their insecurities come

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>from a very toxic place. But it's like Bridget doesn't

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 1>really put other people down very much. She's just really

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 1>hard on herself, and there that I don't know. There

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 1>are moments in the movie where I was like, oh,

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 1>that's she's like, she's so wrong. But I also felt

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>the exact same way at different points about like my

0:33:56.720 --> 0:34:00.400
<v Speaker 1>body or a bad relationship, or I just that the

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 1>plot went differently. I don't know. I love Bridget and

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>the plot is a disaster. Yeah, I don't know that

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>the that the movie thinks she's wrong about those things,

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:14.879
<v Speaker 1>right right right Bridget? Um? Okay, So after he professes

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:20.319
<v Speaker 1>his feelings for her, she runs into him again when

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:24.320
<v Speaker 1>she's covering this um kind of high profile court case

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 1>for her work, and he's he's a barrister defending the

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>people in this case, and he helps her get an

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:40.360
<v Speaker 1>exclusive interview with them, and then she cooks a birthday

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>feast for her friends, which is like make them cook

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:47.760
<v Speaker 1>for you if it's your birthday anyway. Um, but guess

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 1>who shows up at her door unannounced? It's Mark Darcy.

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 1>And guess who else shows up at her door during

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 1>this dinner unannounced. It's Daniel Cleaver and they both want

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 1>to is Bridget. So what happens next is they have

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 1>a fist fight in the street that lasts for the

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 1>next three minutes of screen time. It's really long, so long.

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I do like the scene where Tom runs into the

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 1>restaurant and it's like there's that was fun. So Mark

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 1>wins the fight, but Bridget is not impressed with him

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 1>nor with Daniel, so she kind of goes off, and

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 1>then she spends the holidays with her mom and dad,

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:40.840
<v Speaker 1>who are headed to Mark Darcy's families like holiday lunch

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 1>or something like that, and bridgets like, I'm not going.

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:46.919
<v Speaker 1>But then her mom was like, by the way, it

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:50.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't Mark who had an affair with Daniel's fiance. It

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 1>was Daniel who had an affair with Marks his wife.

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 1>So then bridgets like, oh my god, I had it

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>all wrong. So she drives like a bat out of

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 1>hell marks this. I'm like, even if that is all true, Bridget,

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:11.840
<v Speaker 1>you were still his second choice, Like what are you doing?

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:15.719
<v Speaker 1>And that does not redeem him for any of the

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 1>other stuff. Having experienced pain does not mean that you

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 1>can just be a fucking asshole to anyone you're romantically

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 1>interested in until you die. He's like forty Oh my god, sorry, okay.

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 1>So then so at this little luncheon or whatever, she

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 1>professes her feelings for Mark Darcy, but then his father

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 1>announces that Mark is moving to New York and that

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:48.879
<v Speaker 1>Natasha is going with him, and that they are like,

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 1>now betrothed. So he goes to New York for a bit,

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 1>and then Bridget is all sad and then her friends

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.400
<v Speaker 1>are like, hey, we're going to take you to Paris.

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 1>But right is there lead thing who shows up again,

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 1>but Mark Darcy. Right when she's about to go on

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:11.720
<v Speaker 1>vacation to Paris. It's like, screw him, go to Paris,

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 1>but she decides to stay behind and she's like, okay,

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:21.359
<v Speaker 1>let's hang out. But then he sees her diary in

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 1>which she has written about how awful he is and

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 1>how much she hates him. So then he leaves. Bridget

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:34.360
<v Speaker 1>goes running after him in her underwear in the snow.

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>This scene, I was like, oh, I've seen this in

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:43.360
<v Speaker 1>a million clip compilations, and I mean, listen. Rene Salwagar

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 1>plays the hell out of it. It's fun. The plot

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:51.360
<v Speaker 1>point itself not great, Rene's Salwager's performance in the moment,

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I have no choice but to enjoy it. Sure, And

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 1>she finally catches up with him, and she's like, oh

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 1>my god, I'm so sor but he's like, no, it's fine.

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I was just buying you a new diary that doesn't

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:14.439
<v Speaker 1>contain all manner of vitriol directed at me specifically so

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:17.719
<v Speaker 1>that you have a fresh start with me, and then

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 1>they kiss and that is how the movie and beautiful

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:28.919
<v Speaker 1>no notes, Let's take a quick break and we will

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:40.400
<v Speaker 1>come back to discuss, and we're back. Um. I feel like, Okay,

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 1>there's so much to talk about. But I feel like,

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:45.879
<v Speaker 1>because all the men in this movie get to lie, lie, lie,

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 1>lie lie and experience kind of really no significant consequence

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 1>for it, that a better ending is at the end.

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Rene Zellweger says, I'm lying, I'm from Texas and she's

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:03.440
<v Speaker 1>the big twist and she's not even British. And then

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:05.239
<v Speaker 1>all the men need to deal with the fact that

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 1>this is the first time conceivably they they're being deceived.

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 1>No man has ever deceived in this film, and it's like,

0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:21.919
<v Speaker 1>on what ground there, where? Where? Where shall we start? Well?

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I think the very nature the big issue with the

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:28.960
<v Speaker 1>movie is she is a fresh faced, thirty two year

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:33.840
<v Speaker 1>old Rene's Eltwigger is the loveliest, most beautiful little gal,

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 1>and the central tenet of the movie is she is

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:41.400
<v Speaker 1>a fat, fat, sad sack. I can't even say it

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 1>because it's so preposterous. She do you read she read

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 1>she gained twenty five pounds for this Yeah she is skinny, yes, correct,

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 1>It's so there. I mean, the fat phobia in this

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>movie is so rampant, and I feel like it speaks

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:02.360
<v Speaker 1>to I mean, it's like it's frustrating because it's like

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 1>you can't even really behold it to this movie specifically

0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 1>because that is so early two thousands and nineties culture

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:12.359
<v Speaker 1>is it's all fat shaming women. I also feel like

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 1>they're there's this whole There's a YouTube channel that I

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 1>really love called be kind Rewind that has like a

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:23.359
<v Speaker 1>whole she has a whole video about how when like

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, Western beauty standard very thin Hollywood actresses put

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>on weight or alter their appearance in some way, they

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:34.239
<v Speaker 1>are more likely to be rewarded for their performance. And

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:37.759
<v Speaker 1>it's like, what a risk for you to have a

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:41.839
<v Speaker 1>normal woman's body, and like what an amazing thing. And

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Renee Zellweger, I don't know, it's so

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 1>hard because it's like I really love Renee Zellweger's performance

0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:50.359
<v Speaker 1>in this movie. I think she is like doing an

0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:54.920
<v Speaker 1>amazing job, but it is like, I don't know, it's

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 1>so it's icky that like a woman having a very

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:04.840
<v Speaker 1>normal body is considered like brave in any way, and

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:07.360
<v Speaker 1>that it's like, oh, we need to reward this like

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 1>actress for looking normal, And then the whole character, like

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:15.839
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, Amy is like Bridget, I don't know, it's

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 1>it's it's so hard because it's like you can see

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:21.799
<v Speaker 1>Bridget so many different ways, Like I understand why she

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 1>was a popular character because women are so encouraged to

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 1>be like really hard on themselves and like hate their bodies,

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:32.279
<v Speaker 1>and I think that the only way out of their

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.319
<v Speaker 1>life as it is is to like be in a relationship,

0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:40.759
<v Speaker 1>and Bridget is like navigating that and that's interesting to see.

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 1>But then, in the same way, like you're saying earlier, Amy,

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like the movie seems to think that all of

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 1>her insecurities and all these like toxic thoughts that she

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 1>has about herself are correct, and it's like, uh, I

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know. And then I mean, I think another reason

0:41:57.960 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 1>this movie was such a hit and this character was

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:04.239
<v Speaker 1>already so popular before the movie came out, and that

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 1>she's I mean, she's just a relatable rom calm heroine

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 1>in the sense that like and like she's actually relatable too,

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like a lot of romcom heroines that

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:18.400
<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to be really like relating to, you're like, um,

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 1>this is Jennifer Garner who works at a museum, Like

0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know this woman, or it's like, oh, Sandra

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:30.439
<v Speaker 1>Bullock tripped and I tripped sometimes, so therefore and I'm

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 1>in the CIA. Like this one's like, oh, she's a

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:39.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of bumbling, kind of sad gal who has a

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:44.400
<v Speaker 1>real job, seem she has vices, you know, she drinks

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:48.920
<v Speaker 1>and she smokes cigarettes, and she she's not good at

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:51.880
<v Speaker 1>public speaking, and she kind of makes a fool of

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:54.440
<v Speaker 1>herself sometimes and just yeah, some of them more I mean,

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:56.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of it is still rooted in some

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:59.760
<v Speaker 1>pretty like trophy romcom stuff because she also prop follows

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit and she works in publishing, like stuff

0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 1>going on. But it's like I felt like generally, especially

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:10.560
<v Speaker 1>for this time, she was like more relatable. Yeah, and

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:12.759
<v Speaker 1>there there there's like moments where I'm like, am I

0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 1>reading too far into this? Probably? Usually, but there I

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 1>liked that like kind of the like subtlety of like

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:27.319
<v Speaker 1>she wants to stop drinking, smoking and eating delicious food

0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:29.759
<v Speaker 1>because she thinks that she should hate herself for doing

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:33.879
<v Speaker 1>those things when in reality she seems to like enjoy them.

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:36.840
<v Speaker 1>And it's like I don't know, like I just I

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 1>really related with that of like, oh, she enjoys eating

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:45.040
<v Speaker 1>food because she is a person human and she likes

0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:48.439
<v Speaker 1>like drinking with her friends because she's a person, and

0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:51.400
<v Speaker 1>she feels that she shouldn't because of all this you

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:53.839
<v Speaker 1>know ship we're told of like you have to look

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 1>and behave a very particular way. Yeah, the things that

0:43:57.000 --> 0:44:00.160
<v Speaker 1>make her relatable to audiences are the same thing things

0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 1>that she like punishes herself for, and the movie like

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:08.440
<v Speaker 1>encourages her to punish herself for the other thing. Like

0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:10.840
<v Speaker 1>the other part of what makes her kind of a

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:14.280
<v Speaker 1>sad sack or a person who we as the audience

0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:18.640
<v Speaker 1>are meant to think is sad is that she's single.

0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Like the movie frames being a single woman as being

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 1>pathetic and age to ever exist, right, And this is

0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:36.440
<v Speaker 1>like this is a very common thing, especially like in

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the rum comm genre, especially of this era, where like,

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, if you're not partnered off with a

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:46.399
<v Speaker 1>man because of course you're hetero and you're older than

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:52.920
<v Speaker 1>like wow, how pathetic And like she's feeling she's like,

0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:55.759
<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, I'm so pathetic and everyone thinks I'm

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 1>pathetic and everyone's trying to set me up with someone

0:44:57.719 --> 0:44:59.799
<v Speaker 1>so that I'm not pathetic. But oh my god, it's

0:44:59.840 --> 0:45:05.360
<v Speaker 1>just like that is like who It's like that is horrible,

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 1>and we see that movies all the time. But then

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 1>on the other end, like I also the fact that

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:14.839
<v Speaker 1>like she is experiencing loneliness in a way that like

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I feel like there's two things going

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:19.799
<v Speaker 1>on with her at all times. There's like it does

0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:24.360
<v Speaker 1>seem like her character really does want a meaningful relationship,

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:27.360
<v Speaker 1>but then on the other end, like she's constantly pushed

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:30.480
<v Speaker 1>into the arms of these fucking losers who are not

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 1>nice to her because she's told that she's too old

0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:36.400
<v Speaker 1>to like take her time to find someone who doesn't

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:39.799
<v Speaker 1>super suck. And it's like I did like that. I

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:42.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know, Like that opening scene with her is like

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 1>so iconic. She's watching Frasier and she's like kind of

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:48.360
<v Speaker 1>drunk and kind of bummed out and kind of lonely,

0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 1>and I don't even dislike that, Like there's most people

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 1>have been there at some point. But then it's like

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the movie telling you that it's pathetic and it's not

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 1>like just to how things are at different moments in

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:06.759
<v Speaker 1>your life. Yeah, well, the problem is she then is

0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 1>forced to go in this you know, the whole movie

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:13.400
<v Speaker 1>is the battle between the only two options seemingly right, Like,

0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:16.440
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't meet other men and pass them up for

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:19.960
<v Speaker 1>these two guys. It's just the one her mom introduced

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 1>her to and her moss and that's it, and she

0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:25.879
<v Speaker 1>just has to pick one. And I feel like they're

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:31.240
<v Speaker 1>just even reading. It was interesting reading through the reviews

0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:33.400
<v Speaker 1>of this movie at the time, because I think in

0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 1>two dozen one it seemed to be kind of like

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:40.280
<v Speaker 1>viewed as like this amazing step forward that these toxic

0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:44.879
<v Speaker 1>relationships could happen around a normal woman over thirty, when

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:47.799
<v Speaker 1>like the reality is like, these toxic relationships shouldn't be

0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:53.200
<v Speaker 1>pushed in any movie franchise, but whatever. Like the culture

0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 1>at this moment was so gaslight into thinking that characters

0:46:57.239 --> 0:46:59.880
<v Speaker 1>that are Hugh Grant and Colin Firth's age would only

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:02.680
<v Speaker 1>go after women twenty years younger than them and would

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 1>only do a fist fight after out like over the

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:08.000
<v Speaker 1>finnest woman of all time, And they're like, well, it's

0:47:08.480 --> 0:47:11.719
<v Speaker 1>a woman who is a normal person, and she's like,

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 1>she's a woman who's like closer to their age than normal,

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 1>even though she's still ten years younger than them. Uh oh,

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:23.640
<v Speaker 1>she's only four years younger than than Mark Darcy, is she. Well,

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:27.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm talking about the actors, but yeah, I

0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know. It's like it's not enough progress to be like,

0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:34.799
<v Speaker 1>now we can have toxic relationships with everyday women, it's

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:39.640
<v Speaker 1>like right. Also, like just the okay, So there's that

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:42.440
<v Speaker 1>scene where she goes to the party that was supposed

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:45.120
<v Speaker 1>to be tarts and vicars, and no one gave her

0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:47.720
<v Speaker 1>the news, and so she dresses up in the little

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 1>like playboy bunny suit. She looks unbelievable. She's so hot.

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:58.000
<v Speaker 1>It's just so pre posterous that that's in this movie

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 1>where she's supposed to be this like finally a real woman, Like,

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:07.360
<v Speaker 1>she looks so hot. Also, I found it very funny

0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:11.120
<v Speaker 1>that that exact same plot point also happens in Legally Blonde,

0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:15.319
<v Speaker 1>a movie that comes out the same year, because like

0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:20.800
<v Speaker 1>both movies are a woman being told it's a costume party,

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:25.160
<v Speaker 1>showing up in a like playboy bunny outfit turns out

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:28.839
<v Speaker 1>it's not a costume party, and then has to like

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:33.640
<v Speaker 1>feel humiliated that she's in this very sexy costume. Okay, Also,

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:36.720
<v Speaker 1>why was that ever the theme for that party? Because

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 1>she shows up and it's all sixty and seven year

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:43.320
<v Speaker 1>old people, Like, where are they really? Are they gonna

0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:46.680
<v Speaker 1>go through with this? Yeah? At what point were they

0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:50.719
<v Speaker 1>down for that? It's so bizarre. Oh, I don't know,

0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:54.040
<v Speaker 1>it's really weird. I had forgotten that about legally blonde,

0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 1>and then only she and her dad didn't get the news.

0:48:57.040 --> 0:49:02.040
<v Speaker 1>So he's dressed up the size it's like breezed or whatever. Unbelievable,

0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:07.920
<v Speaker 1>very very strange. Yeah, So it's like we're supposed to

0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:11.440
<v Speaker 1>think that, first of all, Rene's Elwigger is like a

0:49:11.480 --> 0:49:16.359
<v Speaker 1>fat character, which and that that is inherently wrong by

0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the movie standards, both of which are deeply flawed premises.

0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:23.719
<v Speaker 1>I also like, this is a I forget if we've

0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:25.759
<v Speaker 1>ever talked about this on this show, but a very

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:30.879
<v Speaker 1>specific grape I have as like and eating disorder head

0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:35.480
<v Speaker 1>is when people are mentioning like numbers when it comes

0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:39.719
<v Speaker 1>to wait in movies. It really bothers me because when

0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I was younger, it was like a teen or a

0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:48.200
<v Speaker 1>preteen hearing numbers was super like, oh, if I weigh

0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:51.000
<v Speaker 1>over this number, or like if I weigh this number,

0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I am bad, which takes into account absolutely nothing about

0:49:55.480 --> 0:49:58.640
<v Speaker 1>an individual person. But it was like completely god like,

0:49:58.719 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 1>there's this is so deprived think but like there's so

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:04.520
<v Speaker 1>much of my like teen eating disorder that I can

0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:09.120
<v Speaker 1>attribute to an episode of Family Guy that it's so hot.

0:50:09.200 --> 0:50:11.319
<v Speaker 1>But it was like because they were like, if you

0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:15.799
<v Speaker 1>wait over this number, you are worthless. And if you

0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:18.239
<v Speaker 1>are like I don't know, it's like if you're over

0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:21.480
<v Speaker 1>a certain age, maybe you can be like clearly that's

0:50:21.520 --> 0:50:24.120
<v Speaker 1>a joke, and it's like satire to an extent. But

0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:27.320
<v Speaker 1>like when you're a kid and you hear Bridget Jones

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:30.000
<v Speaker 1>say I wait this much and I need to wait

0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:32.279
<v Speaker 1>twenty less than that, I feel like that really does

0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:34.960
<v Speaker 1>like get your kind of serious brain going in a

0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:38.480
<v Speaker 1>bad way. I really. Catherine Cohen has an amazing joke

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:40.600
<v Speaker 1>about she went on a date with a guy and

0:50:40.640 --> 0:50:42.759
<v Speaker 1>then he was like, come back to my place. You

0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:45.040
<v Speaker 1>can ride on the pegs of my bike and she

0:50:45.160 --> 0:50:47.319
<v Speaker 1>was like, no, I can't, and he was like it

0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:49.920
<v Speaker 1>can fit up to a hundred pounds and she was like,

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:58.160
<v Speaker 1>you don't understand wait or math, she's the best. It's

0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:01.440
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know any time I move we regardless

0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:04.640
<v Speaker 1>of who the intended audiences, like, there were a lot

0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:07.040
<v Speaker 1>of young girls who saw this movie in two thousand one,

0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:11.360
<v Speaker 1>and it just I hate, like, on top of the

0:51:11.360 --> 0:51:13.719
<v Speaker 1>fact that you're having like a major plat point be

0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:18.280
<v Speaker 1>that a woman's worth is tied to her weight, saying

0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:23.960
<v Speaker 1>which weight is invaluable is like, uh yeah, and the movie,

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the movie is obsessed with like how she

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:31.040
<v Speaker 1>looks her body size in the sense that like she's

0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:35.040
<v Speaker 1>always putting herself down for her weight and her size.

0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:39.879
<v Speaker 1>Other characters are doing the same thing. Nothing about that

0:51:40.080 --> 0:51:42.840
<v Speaker 1>is challenged in any way. And yeah, it's just a

0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 1>very of the era. It's weird. And you guys talked

0:51:45.560 --> 0:51:48.920
<v Speaker 1>about this before on the podcast, not out myself as

0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:53.040
<v Speaker 1>a big fan, um, but but like they kind of

0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:56.040
<v Speaker 1>hint like they're going to challenge it, but then they don't.

0:51:56.680 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Like it's like almost like if we present this, it counts,

0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:03.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, because that horrible woman that that's in the

0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:08.600
<v Speaker 1>bathroom that Hugh Grant has turns out, is engaged engaged

0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:11.040
<v Speaker 1>to she goes, I wrote it down because it was

0:52:11.080 --> 0:52:13.440
<v Speaker 1>so horrific. She goes, I thought you said she was

0:52:13.560 --> 0:52:18.040
<v Speaker 1>thin about so it's coming from the mouth of like

0:52:18.160 --> 0:52:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the villain, right, but then she's criticized for it for

0:52:21.160 --> 0:52:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the whole movie, So you don't know that the movie's

0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:28.799
<v Speaker 1>point of view is very confused. It's very murky. It's

0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:32.480
<v Speaker 1>so because it's like they're the setup could do something

0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:36.040
<v Speaker 1>interesting to like comment on how like I don't think

0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:39.399
<v Speaker 1>it's un like it's hard to say it's unrealistic that

0:52:39.680 --> 0:52:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Bridget Jones tearing her body to shreds and like being

0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:47.120
<v Speaker 1>extremely critical of herself is unrealistic. But then but then

0:52:47.160 --> 0:52:51.399
<v Speaker 1>it but then nothing happened. It's just like she she's right.

0:52:51.760 --> 0:52:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I guess their answer would be that Colin Firth says,

0:52:55.160 --> 0:52:57.520
<v Speaker 1>why I like you just the way you are? That

0:52:57.560 --> 0:53:01.080
<v Speaker 1>would be what they're saying, is right anything, which her

0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:04.239
<v Speaker 1>friends are like, wait a minute, he likes you the

0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:07.440
<v Speaker 1>way you are, not twenty pounds lighter or whatever. They say.

0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:12.600
<v Speaker 1>They're like, they think that is unbelievable because even her

0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:16.000
<v Speaker 1>friends think of her that way. Kind of right, Yeah,

0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:20.239
<v Speaker 1>according to that statement, Yeah, and you can like Galaxy

0:53:20.280 --> 0:53:22.440
<v Speaker 1>brand that as well and be like, well, we know

0:53:22.520 --> 0:53:25.200
<v Speaker 1>all of her friends are also very insecure in a

0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:28.759
<v Speaker 1>lot of the same ways, and so there is which

0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:31.400
<v Speaker 1>is like again, it's like that is not something that

0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:34.880
<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen if like I know that whatever, if this

0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:37.920
<v Speaker 1>was a movie targeted at our mom's basically of like,

0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:40.359
<v Speaker 1>I know that my mom would hang out with her

0:53:40.360 --> 0:53:43.560
<v Speaker 1>friends and they would you know, kind of like talk

0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:46.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot about their insecurities and maybe not in a

0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:51.360
<v Speaker 1>way that was helpful or healthy towards each other. But

0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:55.360
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's a movie, you know, Like what's the point,

0:53:55.560 --> 0:53:57.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, other than being like this, I don't know.

0:53:57.880 --> 0:54:00.879
<v Speaker 1>I just like, you have this huge opportunity to say

0:54:00.960 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 1>something too a mostly female audience, so to say nothing

0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:09.160
<v Speaker 1>and just be like, yeah, we're really fucked, aren't we.

0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Here's a fantasy where you you're like married off to

0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:16.480
<v Speaker 1>a toxic guy, but at least he's hot, Like it's

0:54:16.520 --> 0:54:22.480
<v Speaker 1>just only horrible to you for many years. Yeah, Like, oh,

0:54:22.560 --> 0:54:26.439
<v Speaker 1>it's so, I don't know. I wasn't expecting to love

0:54:26.440 --> 0:54:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Bridget as much as I did. I'm really I mean,

0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:33.759
<v Speaker 1>I really have rooting for her throughout and she does

0:54:33.880 --> 0:54:37.160
<v Speaker 1>like managed to she does a lot of like pretty

0:54:37.200 --> 0:54:39.880
<v Speaker 1>amazing things in this movie that I feel like the

0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:42.680
<v Speaker 1>movie doesn't even really reward her for very much of Like,

0:54:43.000 --> 0:54:46.279
<v Speaker 1>she completely pivots her career in the middle of the

0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:50.080
<v Speaker 1>movie after she has this horrible experience with her boss,

0:54:50.200 --> 0:54:53.120
<v Speaker 1>who you know, realistically that should have gotten him fired,

0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:57.200
<v Speaker 1>although we know that rarely actually happens. But then she

0:54:57.280 --> 0:55:01.399
<v Speaker 1>totally pivots her entire life, and I was like, wait

0:55:01.400 --> 0:55:04.439
<v Speaker 1>a second, that's that's amazing, Like she becomes a TV

0:55:04.680 --> 0:55:08.080
<v Speaker 1>producer and like, but then but now it's like, I

0:55:08.080 --> 0:55:09.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know, it just feels kind of strange that not

0:55:10.000 --> 0:55:12.319
<v Speaker 1>a lot of like her victories and like what she

0:55:12.440 --> 0:55:17.800
<v Speaker 1>does to change her predicament, Like it's immediately forgotten about

0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the second one of the British guys enters the scene. Yeah,

0:55:21.040 --> 0:55:25.040
<v Speaker 1>because the story, the trajectory of the story is not

0:55:25.160 --> 0:55:29.120
<v Speaker 1>really focused on her career. It's all about the relationships

0:55:29.160 --> 0:55:33.360
<v Speaker 1>with these two men, which I mean, is now the

0:55:33.440 --> 0:55:37.799
<v Speaker 1>time to get into that. Well, let's take a quick

0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:41.359
<v Speaker 1>break because there's about to be a lot and then

0:55:41.760 --> 0:55:51.640
<v Speaker 1>we'll come right back. We're back, really really good. Before

0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:53.239
<v Speaker 1>we get to the men, I did want to say

0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:56.920
<v Speaker 1>that I guess again, this is like very I feel

0:55:56.920 --> 0:56:00.279
<v Speaker 1>like movies of this time like these like early third

0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:06.280
<v Speaker 1>wave feminism attempts at movie making, Like at very least,

0:56:06.320 --> 0:56:10.960
<v Speaker 1>we do see a lot of women working, and we

0:56:11.040 --> 0:56:14.520
<v Speaker 1>do know like any in high powered jobs. Yeah, like

0:56:14.600 --> 0:56:16.720
<v Speaker 1>we know what they do. We know that they're generally

0:56:16.760 --> 0:56:20.080
<v Speaker 1>pretty successful at what they do. We'll have a conversation

0:56:20.120 --> 0:56:23.400
<v Speaker 1>about Bridget's mom in a bit like I was generally

0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:27.080
<v Speaker 1>encouraged about like how much you see about women, and

0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:32.480
<v Speaker 1>like Bridget, outside of her rocky start at the TV station,

0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:35.239
<v Speaker 1>seems to be pretty good at what she does and

0:56:35.320 --> 0:56:39.160
<v Speaker 1>seems to be like interested in what she's doing. Um,

0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:42.480
<v Speaker 1>which is a very like it feels like crumbs now,

0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:46.160
<v Speaker 1>But I was like, okay, movie, did you reading that

0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Rene's elwigger worked at a publishing house for a month

0:56:49.680 --> 0:56:55.759
<v Speaker 1>to research? No, Wow, that doesn't feel necessary even you

0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:58.200
<v Speaker 1>really do not understand at all what she does for

0:56:58.239 --> 0:57:01.400
<v Speaker 1>work in the movie. Does not feel necessary. No, but

0:57:01.440 --> 0:57:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I read she worked at a publishing house for a month.

0:57:04.120 --> 0:57:07.959
<v Speaker 1>She like did a disguise and something so that people

0:57:07.960 --> 0:57:10.000
<v Speaker 1>couldn't tell who she was, and you know who she was.

0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:12.960
<v Speaker 1>She was dating Jim Carrey at the time, and she

0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:15.480
<v Speaker 1>had a framed picture of him on her desk, and

0:57:15.520 --> 0:57:18.240
<v Speaker 1>people would be like, that's weird, but no one said

0:57:18.280 --> 0:57:24.680
<v Speaker 1>anything that's extremely weird. So I don't know why Renee's

0:57:24.720 --> 0:57:29.240
<v Speaker 1>elwigger Jim Carrey early two thousands relationship totally makes sense

0:57:29.280 --> 0:57:31.520
<v Speaker 1>to me. But I'm like, you know what it. I

0:57:31.600 --> 0:57:34.960
<v Speaker 1>get it, that makes sense, But yeah, I don't think you. Uh,

0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that she needed to go with that

0:57:37.120 --> 0:57:41.520
<v Speaker 1>method and do that that little stint. Unfortunately, the movie

0:57:41.560 --> 0:57:45.920
<v Speaker 1>does not have that much to do with her job

0:57:45.960 --> 0:57:50.440
<v Speaker 1>for her career aspirations or really. I'm like, I couldn't

0:57:50.480 --> 0:57:54.200
<v Speaker 1>tell you what her job was. She worked in publicity.

0:57:54.440 --> 0:57:58.840
<v Speaker 1>She's like the publicity for the publishing house. I guess

0:57:59.080 --> 0:58:01.360
<v Speaker 1>because he does that really demeaning line where he's like,

0:58:01.400 --> 0:58:03.960
<v Speaker 1>you just come in and out with your memos and

0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:08.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't know anything about what it's going on or whatever. Um.

0:58:08.920 --> 0:58:11.840
<v Speaker 1>But no, you're totally right. They do have her. I

0:58:11.960 --> 0:58:14.000
<v Speaker 1>never know her name, but to me, she's moaning myrtle

0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:19.200
<v Speaker 1>her friend. Yes, oh my god, I didn't put that together.

0:58:19.480 --> 0:58:24.960
<v Speaker 1>The character's name is Jude Dude. But she she they

0:58:24.960 --> 0:58:27.240
<v Speaker 1>mentioned she has a big fancy job too. But then

0:58:27.280 --> 0:58:30.200
<v Speaker 1>she calls crying from the bathroom about the guy. But

0:58:30.360 --> 0:58:34.680
<v Speaker 1>she has a job. I guess where she's calling from,

0:58:34.880 --> 0:58:38.840
<v Speaker 1>ding dong, Like, yeah, we do know what women do.

0:58:39.120 --> 0:58:44.400
<v Speaker 1>It just never really comes into the plot outside of

0:58:44.480 --> 0:58:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Bridget's career change, which I thought should have gotten a

0:58:48.280 --> 0:58:51.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit more attention. Yeah, right, she has as a

0:58:51.760 --> 0:58:56.960
<v Speaker 1>journalist who says, fuck, that's all we know. Yeah, and

0:58:57.000 --> 0:59:00.880
<v Speaker 1>then there's all those lady barristers. True, yes, I mean

0:59:01.040 --> 0:59:03.920
<v Speaker 1>we only know them in the context of the other women,

0:59:04.120 --> 0:59:06.160
<v Speaker 1>like you know, Colin for its other woman. But she

0:59:06.320 --> 0:59:08.880
<v Speaker 1>is a lady barrister, that's true. And I will say

0:59:09.000 --> 0:59:13.800
<v Speaker 1>barrister as often as possible from you're on out. Um. Okay,

0:59:13.960 --> 0:59:18.200
<v Speaker 1>So let's I was supposed to start with. Okay, I

0:59:18.240 --> 0:59:21.440
<v Speaker 1>guess Daniel Cleaver is where I want to start a k.

0:59:21.840 --> 0:59:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Hugh Grant Okay, Okay, here's everything that's wrong with him.

0:59:29.520 --> 0:59:37.480
<v Speaker 1>He's a sexual harasser, big time time horrific, horrific, which like, okay,

0:59:37.600 --> 0:59:42.360
<v Speaker 1>what what is baffling to me in that scenario is

0:59:42.440 --> 0:59:49.320
<v Speaker 1>that he starts emailing her with like extremely sexually suggestive comments. Again,

0:59:49.440 --> 0:59:51.720
<v Speaker 1>it's like a quick run of the Bishemy test is

0:59:51.840 --> 0:59:56.160
<v Speaker 1>like it's a no, right, but you know, because the

0:59:56.760 --> 0:59:59.960
<v Speaker 1>movie is like, but hey, it's Hugh Grant who's trying

1:00:00.040 --> 1:00:05.520
<v Speaker 1>arming and cute, so it's fine, which, according to his

1:00:05.840 --> 1:00:09.200
<v Speaker 1>personal life section, is also how Hugh Grant lives his life,

1:00:11.960 --> 1:00:16.280
<v Speaker 1>so he's doing that. She does call him out for

1:00:16.480 --> 1:00:20.120
<v Speaker 1>sexually harassing her, but it is framed as a joke

1:00:20.400 --> 1:00:23.120
<v Speaker 1>because it's like her calling him out is part of

1:00:23.200 --> 1:00:28.360
<v Speaker 1>the flirtation um, which sends a very harmful message that like, no,

1:00:28.600 --> 1:00:31.640
<v Speaker 1>women are actually asking for it. They want to be

1:00:31.840 --> 1:00:36.840
<v Speaker 1>sexually harassed, which is obviously horrendous. On top of that,

1:00:37.120 --> 1:00:41.480
<v Speaker 1>he is a pathological liar. He is a gaslighter, he's

1:00:41.480 --> 1:00:45.600
<v Speaker 1>a womanizer, he's a cheater. Like he's just he doesn't

1:00:45.680 --> 1:00:51.000
<v Speaker 1>tell a single truth the entire movie. So between the

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<v Speaker 1>two men, I would say he is the more toxic one. Yes, yes,

1:00:57.000 --> 1:00:59.880
<v Speaker 1>but but but that's such two thousand's movie a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>If we're forced to put in it's like, well you

1:01:03.120 --> 1:01:08.040
<v Speaker 1>have you legally, you're contractually obligated to be in a

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<v Speaker 1>long term relationship with one of these assholes, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like damage control. It's so depressing. It's that

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<v Speaker 1>classic like love triangle scenario where like a woman's caught

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<v Speaker 1>between two men, both of them are damaged for different reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a matter of like which one do I want?

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<v Speaker 1>The vampire or the werewolf? Do I want emotional abuser

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<v Speaker 1>or the man who's emotionally withholding I seem to decide

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<v Speaker 1>that the love triangle belongs to pride and prejudice, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to do a love triangle, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to say it's it's a adaptation of pride and prejudice,

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<v Speaker 1>like there can be other triangles. Yeah, it's so frustrating,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like there's like a few moments thrown

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<v Speaker 1>in for Hugh Grant's character where you're supposed to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>not that bad a guy, like I don't know, little

1:02:02.840 --> 1:02:06.160
<v Speaker 1>insidious details like the fact that you are set up

1:02:06.200 --> 1:02:09.840
<v Speaker 1>to think that he's going to make fun of bridgets underwear,

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<v Speaker 1>which he does, but not in the way that she expects,

1:02:14.480 --> 1:02:18.040
<v Speaker 1>and so it's like, oh, wow, he wasn't completely cruel

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<v Speaker 1>to me about my underwear. I was about to say

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<v Speaker 1>that the canoe scene is supposed to be the one

1:02:25.000 --> 1:02:27.280
<v Speaker 1>that teaches you that he's actually like fun charming, but

1:02:27.400 --> 1:02:30.760
<v Speaker 1>he comes into her canoe against her will, right, It's

1:02:30.880 --> 1:02:34.920
<v Speaker 1>like she doesn't want him to and it's very dangerous.

1:02:35.280 --> 1:02:38.120
<v Speaker 1>He's like not even clearing the bar that we put

1:02:38.200 --> 1:02:43.200
<v Speaker 1>on the floor for him, so tripping over it and

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<v Speaker 1>falling flat on his face. But I feel like there

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<v Speaker 1>are those little details are supposed to be the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that like convinced us like, oh, he's not that bad

1:02:51.040 --> 1:02:53.680
<v Speaker 1>a guy. He seems like a womanizer, but look he

1:02:53.800 --> 1:02:57.440
<v Speaker 1>accepts her body, and look he's goofing around, and it's

1:02:57.520 --> 1:03:00.080
<v Speaker 1>like this is not enough. We need more for bridge It.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to need marka Bridget And what the movie

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<v Speaker 1>wants you to think is more for her is Mark Darcy.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's go through him. So, like we mentioned earlier,

1:03:11.360 --> 1:03:15.920
<v Speaker 1>he is extremely cruel to her from the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>So and then after that, in the various moments where

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<v Speaker 1>they are very just like coincidentally in the same place,

1:03:23.560 --> 1:03:29.200
<v Speaker 1>he's usually just ignoring her or being very I don't

1:03:29.200 --> 1:03:34.000
<v Speaker 1>even know, just stuffy and weird. Again, it feels his carecter.

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<v Speaker 1>The Darcy character feels like the only Jane austen E

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<v Speaker 1>character in the movie. It's so weird, like he does

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<v Speaker 1>feel actually Mr Darcy ish to me where it's like

1:03:45.320 --> 1:03:49.720
<v Speaker 1>a standoffish asshole who's like withholding his emotions. And then

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, actually, I have all these feelings but never

1:03:52.400 --> 1:03:56.400
<v Speaker 1>ask me about them again. Like he's the only Jane

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<v Speaker 1>Austen character in the movie. And it's weird because it's

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and one, right, I think that's really all

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted to use. Yeah, I don't think it's ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I this whole thing makes me want

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<v Speaker 1>to read the book because I would imagine the book

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<v Speaker 1>is more of a condemnation of the way society tells

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<v Speaker 1>her to his way in bla blah blah. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>like just a hopeful idea because the book is written

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<v Speaker 1>by the woman and then the movie is written by

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<v Speaker 1>her with three white men. I think, yeah, yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited to get into the hell and fielding a. Yeah yeah, Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark sucks like he he sucks. He's he's like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I actually like you a lot, even

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<v Speaker 1>though he's done absolutely nothing to show this, nor would

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<v Speaker 1>he like they haven't even talked to each other, so

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<v Speaker 1>how would he know that he likes her? And I

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<v Speaker 1>fully think that the moment where we're supposed to think

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<v Speaker 1>that Mark is an awesome guy is when he can

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<v Speaker 1>cook an omelet. That's where we're like, oh wow, he's

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<v Speaker 1>actually like woke king because he can cook an Like

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<v Speaker 1>just the standards for these men are so low. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can fry an egg, you can marry Rene's elwigger,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, that's just that we have to eat.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to want more for her. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>His whole thing is that he's just so emotionally distant

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<v Speaker 1>and withholding. And then the big thing for me when

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god, he's awful is that

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<v Speaker 1>he invades her privacy when he finds what is clearly

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<v Speaker 1>her diary and then proceeds to read it. It's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>We literally saw her write what it is on the

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<v Speaker 1>first page two times and then he reads it um

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<v Speaker 1>And the only thing that I was like, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>is I guess slightly not even redeemable for him, but

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<v Speaker 1>that he did the bare minimum decent thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was surprised by it because we never even

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<v Speaker 1>see the bare minimum decent thing for a man to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But he does ask for sent to kiss her at

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<v Speaker 1>the end, after he reads her diary. He's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot to kiss you goodbye? Do you mind? And then

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<v Speaker 1>he waits for a response. He reads her diary while

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<v Speaker 1>she's changing into tiny panties for him because she was

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<v Speaker 1>so ashamed by Hugh Grant for her other ones. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even make that connection. Oh that's so leave

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<v Speaker 1>Bridget alone. I feel like Mark is really the personification

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<v Speaker 1>of that like shitty thing that a lot of girls

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<v Speaker 1>are taught that. It's like if a man is meet

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<v Speaker 1>to you, it meets he has a crush on you,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just that ideology, except he's forty and it's

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<v Speaker 1>all true where it's like, normally when men are girl,

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<v Speaker 1>do you it's literally just because um, they're not nice people,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't respect women. But but in Mark's case, he

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<v Speaker 1>is actually just He just doesn't know how to exp

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<v Speaker 1>He only knows how to express himself by insulting women,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she should give him a chance. He also,

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<v Speaker 1>like we've already mentioned, starts just showing up unannounced. He's

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<v Speaker 1>it's so weird, especially when the biggest win of Bridget's career.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like that moment where she like nails the

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<v Speaker 1>story and they're like, Wow, she's such a charming host.

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<v Speaker 1>We love this girl. Was because Mark showed up somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wish that she had gotten a win that

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<v Speaker 1>was independent of guy hands it to her. Yeah, the interview,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she does great at the interview, but she

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<v Speaker 1>gives it to her. And then the scene where they fight, which, again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is usually presented in movies. If two men are

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<v Speaker 1>fighting over a woman, it's because they just love her

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<v Speaker 1>so much, And isn't it so romantic that they're beating

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<v Speaker 1>each other to a pulp over you? And at the

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<v Speaker 1>very least she rejects both of them right after this fight. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I did like that, But that is grounds enough that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if two men are like so toxic in their

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<v Speaker 1>masculinity that they are going to physically fight each other

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<v Speaker 1>and then she ends up with one of them, that no, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't care for that. I was scared

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<v Speaker 1>she was gonna take Hugh Grant inside and go nurse

1:08:27.439 --> 1:08:30.439
<v Speaker 1>his wounds. I was so glad she did it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like of the few wins that I do. It's

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<v Speaker 1>never enough, But I do like the two moments where

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<v Speaker 1>she kind of like hands Hugh Grants asked back to

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<v Speaker 1>him this moment and then when she tells him to

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<v Speaker 1>funk off at work, I mean he should have gotten

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<v Speaker 1>fucking fired for clearly having sex with every female coworker

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<v Speaker 1>he's attracted to and like relentlessly hitting on them, because

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<v Speaker 1>you could like build a story where that American woman

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa or Liza could be in a very similar situation

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<v Speaker 1>to Bridget and probably is where she is like being

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<v Speaker 1>hit on by her boss and doesn't have anywhere else

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<v Speaker 1>to work, and it's like that classic horrible situation for

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<v Speaker 1>women in the workplace of like, well, if I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do what he wants me to do, then

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<v Speaker 1>am I going to have a job or not? And

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not what I would how I would want

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<v Speaker 1>that sea to end. But I do like the Bridget

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<v Speaker 1>at least as like go fund yourself. I'm I'm out

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<v Speaker 1>of here. So I don't know. It's so there's both

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<v Speaker 1>so awful and the fight too. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to figure out how I felt about the

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<v Speaker 1>fight because it is funny to watch, and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there is I don't know. I feel like in

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<v Speaker 1>romcoms we sometimes see it's okay, tell me if this

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<v Speaker 1>is if I should just put my head through a

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<v Speaker 1>shredder and then I will. But I do feel like

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<v Speaker 1>with this fight, it was it was filmed a little

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<v Speaker 1>more like two women fighting over a guy than two men,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, in combat, which I thought was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really think it's better or worse. I just

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was interesting because I don't think you I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you more frequently see women pulling each other's

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<v Speaker 1>hair in like fights like this than you see men

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<v Speaker 1>throwing like I mean, they're not fighting well, they're fighting

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<v Speaker 1>like really badly. I don't think it's good or bad.

1:10:26.920 --> 1:10:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I just sort of had that thought of, like, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like they're having a similar fight to when in

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<v Speaker 1>the genre women are like, you know, tearing each other's

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<v Speaker 1>hair as opposed to like, I don't know, being at

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<v Speaker 1>war like they're they're they're not good fighters. It was

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<v Speaker 1>funny to watch. It is so long, it's really I

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<v Speaker 1>hate them both. Yeah. You know who ends up being

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<v Speaker 1>the feminist hero of this movie is you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>she goes on the series of job interviews to try

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<v Speaker 1>to find a new job in TV or whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately the last one she admits, like I had an

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<v Speaker 1>affair with my boss and he is making my life

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<v Speaker 1>hell or whatever. And the guy goes, Okay, fine, you

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<v Speaker 1>start Monday. That guy was like understanding about how like

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<v Speaker 1>her former toxic workplace, like she couldn't. But then he's actually,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, also, if you suck the boss, we won't fire.

1:11:21.520 --> 1:11:26.160
<v Speaker 1>You know. I liked her being honest about it for

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<v Speaker 1>a second though. She was like, I can no longer

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<v Speaker 1>stay in my toxic workplace, you know. But then no, never,

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<v Speaker 1>I take back everything I just said. He's only understanding

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<v Speaker 1>because he also wants to have sex with her. Right

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, oh, so you suck your boss? Is like

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<v Speaker 1>that horrific. I love Bridget, though, you know it's hard.

1:11:43.760 --> 1:11:46.280
<v Speaker 1>I can't get who does she? Okay, Caitlin, you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>the movies after this? Who does she? Does she end

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<v Speaker 1>up with? Anyone? What happens? I'll give you a very

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<v Speaker 1>brief rundown. So Bridget Jones Edge of Reason, which I

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<v Speaker 1>think came out in two thousand four. It sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a James Bond End of Reason. So the story there

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<v Speaker 1>is it picks up like six weeks after the first

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<v Speaker 1>movie ends. She's in a relationship with Mark Darcy, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, I can't believe he hasn't asked me to

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<v Speaker 1>marry him yet, even though we've only been dating for

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<v Speaker 1>six weeks. I mean, how long is he dating Natasha?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, three minutes? We don't know. Okay. So he

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<v Speaker 1>is in like another kind of like barrister partnership with

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<v Speaker 1>another woman who um, she keeps thinking that he might

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<v Speaker 1>be having an affair with um. They break up at

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<v Speaker 1>some point, I think, And then she starts working with

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Grant again, who is also now working in television.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also made the same exact career switch. Um. He's

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<v Speaker 1>like a travel show personality. So she goes with him

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<v Speaker 1>to Thailand. And if you are like I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>there's a bunch of racist stuff that happens in that storyline,

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<v Speaker 1>you would be correct. And then she gets arrested and

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<v Speaker 1>thrown in a Thai prison what for a large portion

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<v Speaker 1>of the movie. And then Mark Darcy has to like

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<v Speaker 1>basically use all of his like connections to get her

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<v Speaker 1>out of this Thai prison. But he like plays it

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<v Speaker 1>off like, oh, I'm just the messenger. I didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>any of this for you. But then she finds out, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he did do it all for her, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>he must still love me, and then shows she like

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<v Speaker 1>goes to him at the end and they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we're in love again. And basically the same

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<v Speaker 1>exact like plot points happen in the second movie as

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<v Speaker 1>do in the first movie. It's just like some of

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<v Speaker 1>the right. So that's the gist of Edge of Reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Now bridget Jones's baby, which came out and I believe

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<v Speaker 1>so like over a decade after even the Edge of Reason. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what I'll say about it. It is two hours long,

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<v Speaker 1>which is at least a half hour longer than it

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be. It is so long and very slow

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<v Speaker 1>and very boring. Um. Hugh Grant's character is dead. What

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<v Speaker 1>they kill off Daniel Cleaver so he refused to come back.

1:14:34.680 --> 1:14:36.840
<v Speaker 1>He didn't want to do the movie. He was shooting Patty.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I busy exactly exactly. That would have been

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<v Speaker 1>like the right timeline. Yeah. I think that's so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>What how did he die? I want to know how

1:14:45.520 --> 1:14:48.519
<v Speaker 1>he died? He died? Um, I think something like he

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<v Speaker 1>was flying like a private Sorry, my neighbor's dog is barking,

1:14:51.560 --> 1:14:54.280
<v Speaker 1>but um, if you can hear it, but um, he

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<v Speaker 1>was flying like a private plane and then like crashed

1:14:58.080 --> 1:15:04.280
<v Speaker 1>it or something, so he's he's not in the movie. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>the love triangle is with Patrick Dempsey this time. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he's especially hot in this movie. I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>ask if I should watch these in between Thai Prison

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<v Speaker 1>and Patrick Dempsey and uh so she has sex with

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<v Speaker 1>both Patrick Dempsey and Colin Firth within a few days

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<v Speaker 1>of each other, and then she gets pregnant, but she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't know who the father is and she leads them

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<v Speaker 1>to believe they're both the father, and then Hi Jinks

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<v Speaker 1>and Sue, I kind of like this swim better. He's funny. Yeah,

1:15:41.840 --> 1:15:43.600
<v Speaker 1>like this is kind of fun more fun to me

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<v Speaker 1>than the second one sounds. That's such a bold move

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<v Speaker 1>to kill off Hugh grat That's so funny, especially because

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<v Speaker 1>Renee Sellwinger and like Colin Firth by sixteen, they both

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<v Speaker 1>have oscars and they're still game. But Hugh Grant is like,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not available. It's like if it's Paddington too,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no issue. True, you need to find out

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<v Speaker 1>why and then we can decide if we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>judge it. Um, but the skip ahead, you know, fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>seconds or whatever for the spoiler of Bridget Jones Baby.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the end of that movie, Bridget and Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Darcy ak Colin Firth get married and it was baby

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<v Speaker 1>was I don't even remember. I think they like figure

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<v Speaker 1>out like genealogically that it is Colin Firth, but I

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<v Speaker 1>truly was like only half paying attention, kind of fun

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<v Speaker 1>of Colin Firth raised Patrick's dempsies Baby there. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>if you were like doing a power ranking of the

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<v Speaker 1>three Bridget Jones that's what's your what's your ranking? I

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<v Speaker 1>would say the first movie I like the best, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Baby one I like the least. Also, especially because

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<v Speaker 1>like it came out five years ago and it is

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<v Speaker 1>really no less problematic than these ones from the early

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand's. That is there more than one book? Is

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<v Speaker 1>the book? Is it a series? It is a series.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that at least the first to like Bridget

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<v Speaker 1>Jones Diary and Bridget Jones The Edge of Reason, we're

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<v Speaker 1>also the name of the books. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>long this series went on for, but that's a that's

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<v Speaker 1>a great pivot into a little bit of context corner

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<v Speaker 1>stuff with Helen Fielding. I mean it's nothing that is

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<v Speaker 1>like completely earth shattering, but the the Bridget Jones is

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<v Speaker 1>like written and based on the life of Helen Fielding,

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<v Speaker 1>who wrote the books, who isn't Bridget Jones exactly but

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<v Speaker 1>has a lot in common with her. She worked in

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<v Speaker 1>publishing and then she made a career pivot in her

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<v Speaker 1>thirties to work as a TV producer, which is incidentally

1:17:50.840 --> 1:17:54.559
<v Speaker 1>where she meets the director of this movie, Sharon McGuire.

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<v Speaker 1>They were both working at BBC in like the nineties

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<v Speaker 1>Helen Fielding started writing this column. It all sounds vaguely

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<v Speaker 1>like British Sex in the City, basically where Helen Fielding

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<v Speaker 1>starts writing this column anonymously about her life as a

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<v Speaker 1>single thirtiesomething. It gets popular, she fictionalizes more of it

1:18:15.160 --> 1:18:19.519
<v Speaker 1>and turns it into this novel, which becomes bridge Gen's diary.

1:18:20.320 --> 1:18:24.280
<v Speaker 1>The book becomes really popular, uh than she gets. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that this movie is direct like a rom

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<v Speaker 1>com in the early two thousand's directed by a woman, unfortunately,

1:18:30.880 --> 1:18:35.760
<v Speaker 1>is pretty huge unbelievable. Um and and I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>there are some choices where I'm like, oh, I'm so

1:18:38.840 --> 1:18:41.519
<v Speaker 1>glad that there was a female director for this like

1:18:41.920 --> 1:18:45.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily trust a male director to not just

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<v Speaker 1>be super obsessed with the protagonist body and like all

1:18:49.040 --> 1:18:51.599
<v Speaker 1>this other ship that I thought was at least more

1:18:51.680 --> 1:18:55.719
<v Speaker 1>tastefully handled. But anyways, Helen Fielding and Sharon McGuire are friends.

1:18:55.800 --> 1:18:59.200
<v Speaker 1>They're on this come up together. Um. What I think

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<v Speaker 1>is most interesting is that Helen Fielding, so because this

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<v Speaker 1>movie is turning twenty years old pretty soon. Um, there's

1:19:10.360 --> 1:19:13.640
<v Speaker 1>been a lot of like anniversary reflections. There was a

1:19:13.680 --> 1:19:17.400
<v Speaker 1>whole documentary on the BBC that you can't watch in

1:19:17.400 --> 1:19:19.639
<v Speaker 1>the States, so I don't know what happens. But basically

1:19:20.400 --> 1:19:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Helen Fielding has been reflecting on Bridget Jones, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five years after conceiving the character and watching this

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<v Speaker 1>movie back, and she gave like this really interesting quote

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to share about her experience watching back

1:19:36.120 --> 1:19:40.680
<v Speaker 1>this movie with her kid, um, who I think is

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<v Speaker 1>like in their twenties now. Um, So this is from

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<v Speaker 1>like December of last year. So this is from a

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<v Speaker 1>Guardian article and it goes like this quote, Bridget Jones

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<v Speaker 1>creator Helen Fielding is now shocked by the sexism her

1:19:55.200 --> 1:19:58.639
<v Speaker 1>character face, the writer has revealed looking back twenty five years.

1:19:58.760 --> 1:20:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Fielding said she would not be able to write the

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<v Speaker 1>story now. Watching the hit film of her first book

1:20:03.439 --> 1:20:07.639
<v Speaker 1>recently with her children, she was staggered. Helen Fielding says

1:20:08.120 --> 1:20:10.479
<v Speaker 1>the level of sexism that Bridget was dealing with, the

1:20:10.600 --> 1:20:12.639
<v Speaker 1>hand on the bum and so many of the scenes

1:20:12.920 --> 1:20:14.960
<v Speaker 1>made it quite shocking for me to see how things,

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<v Speaker 1>how much things have changed since then, Fielding told radio

1:20:19.520 --> 1:20:22.960
<v Speaker 1>host uh Fielding added that she was particularly struck by

1:20:22.960 --> 1:20:25.679
<v Speaker 1>a scene in which Bridget's fictional boss demands a shot

1:20:25.800 --> 1:20:28.840
<v Speaker 1>of the boobs. Seeing old attitudes that were just part

1:20:28.920 --> 1:20:31.879
<v Speaker 1>and parcel of her life depicted on screen again was alarming.

1:20:32.520 --> 1:20:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Although her heroine, played by Renee's Elwiger, is not a

1:20:35.120 --> 1:20:38.240
<v Speaker 1>passive victim, in the end, she turned around and stuck

1:20:38.280 --> 1:20:41.360
<v Speaker 1>it to them. Um So I thought, I thought it

1:20:41.439 --> 1:20:45.120
<v Speaker 1>was interesting to see, like, while this is like not

1:20:45.520 --> 1:20:50.519
<v Speaker 1>the triumphant feminist tale, like that, even like the author's

1:20:50.640 --> 1:20:53.719
<v Speaker 1>understanding of her own work, which is to an extent

1:20:53.840 --> 1:20:56.439
<v Speaker 1>a reflection of how she saw herself and her own

1:20:56.600 --> 1:21:00.560
<v Speaker 1>life at that time, has changed over years and with

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<v Speaker 1>all the you know not I mean with the progress

1:21:04.320 --> 1:21:06.920
<v Speaker 1>that has taken place since Bridget Jones as a character

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<v Speaker 1>was conceived in the mid nineties. The author is like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, that was so bad. That was so

1:21:14.320 --> 1:21:17.479
<v Speaker 1>and in ways she didn't even realize as she was

1:21:17.560 --> 1:21:19.880
<v Speaker 1>writing the character. So I thought that was like kind

1:21:19.880 --> 1:21:21.479
<v Speaker 1>of a cool I don't know, you, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>most writers don't give you that kind of level of

1:21:25.040 --> 1:21:28.560
<v Speaker 1>insight into their own work. Later on, Yeah, because you

1:21:28.640 --> 1:21:33.960
<v Speaker 1>do see stuff that again we with our lens, we

1:21:34.280 --> 1:21:38.160
<v Speaker 1>very clearly notice things that again we're just so normalized

1:21:38.439 --> 1:21:42.800
<v Speaker 1>in that era that just strike us so alarmingly as

1:21:42.920 --> 1:21:46.280
<v Speaker 1>just being very problematic, Like, yeah, she's subject to so

1:21:46.479 --> 1:21:51.240
<v Speaker 1>much sexual harassment, Like there's a creepy like uncle figure

1:21:51.479 --> 1:21:56.040
<v Speaker 1>character who's harassing her, and that is like played for

1:21:56.400 --> 1:22:01.400
<v Speaker 1>laughs arguably in the movie, but not because like I

1:22:01.439 --> 1:22:04.320
<v Speaker 1>don't think the writer was like, oh, let's laugh at

1:22:04.360 --> 1:22:06.840
<v Speaker 1>women getting sexually harassed. It's more just like that was

1:22:06.960 --> 1:22:10.240
<v Speaker 1>the mentality of that era and the same thing with

1:22:10.320 --> 1:22:13.000
<v Speaker 1>their boss too, or like that it's so weird. That

1:22:13.160 --> 1:22:16.760
<v Speaker 1>was like I wrote down like self bouschemy test where

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<v Speaker 1>you see her be hit on by two of her bosses,

1:22:19.600 --> 1:22:22.360
<v Speaker 1>but one she doesn't find attractive and so it's creepy.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when she does find attractive, so it's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just like, well, there's a level of

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<v Speaker 1>self awareness happening there, and yeah, I mean I feel

1:22:32.560 --> 1:22:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Bridget as very much like a product of her environment

1:22:36.240 --> 1:22:40.960
<v Speaker 1>almost of like it's I kind of hesitate to fault

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<v Speaker 1>her for how hard she is in herself, because that

1:22:43.320 --> 1:22:46.800
<v Speaker 1>is all the that's the only message and feedback she's getting,

1:22:47.120 --> 1:22:50.599
<v Speaker 1>even from people who love her, even from her friends

1:22:50.640 --> 1:22:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and family, they're like, you're so, what's wrong with you?

1:22:55.200 --> 1:22:57.679
<v Speaker 1>And so it's kind of like, well, you know, unless

1:22:57.720 --> 1:23:02.120
<v Speaker 1>you have this, like unless you're like reading through feminist

1:23:02.200 --> 1:23:04.680
<v Speaker 1>text day in and day out, like what you know,

1:23:04.960 --> 1:23:06.920
<v Speaker 1>what are you supposed to do as a normal person

1:23:07.000 --> 1:23:09.840
<v Speaker 1>if everyone in your life is telling you that you're

1:23:09.960 --> 1:23:13.519
<v Speaker 1>like not worthy. I don't know. I really feel for

1:23:13.560 --> 1:23:17.760
<v Speaker 1>her and I'm glad she exists. So it's like, I

1:23:17.840 --> 1:23:21.519
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I love Bridgets Die, I don't love her diet,

1:23:21.560 --> 1:23:25.680
<v Speaker 1>but like I'm pro diary and anti the plot of

1:23:25.800 --> 1:23:29.160
<v Speaker 1>the movie. I think what also makes you wonder like,

1:23:29.680 --> 1:23:33.360
<v Speaker 1>since she spends so much of her diary railing against

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Darcy and saying how much she hates him and

1:23:35.800 --> 1:23:39.000
<v Speaker 1>how awful he is, why does she end up with him,

1:23:39.920 --> 1:23:42.759
<v Speaker 1>but also he wasn't a very big part of her life.

1:23:43.200 --> 1:23:45.640
<v Speaker 1>She's spending a lot of diary space on someone she

1:23:45.760 --> 1:23:51.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really talk to at all. Yeah, but you know

1:23:51.280 --> 1:23:54.160
<v Speaker 1>what's so interesting about hearing that quote is how many

1:23:54.800 --> 1:23:58.120
<v Speaker 1>female screenwriters can now reflect on a movie they had

1:23:58.280 --> 1:24:01.800
<v Speaker 1>made twenty years ago. That's just so rare. Like the

1:24:01.880 --> 1:24:03.600
<v Speaker 1>fact that it was I mean, she co wrote the

1:24:03.640 --> 1:24:06.880
<v Speaker 1>screenplay with a couple of dudes, but like the fact

1:24:06.920 --> 1:24:09.800
<v Speaker 1>that it was co written and directed by a woman

1:24:10.400 --> 1:24:12.600
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand, two thousand, and then came out in

1:24:12.600 --> 1:24:16.519
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and one. Yeah, Yeah, it's I'm like, I

1:24:16.680 --> 1:24:18.439
<v Speaker 1>was really glad that she was kind of like down

1:24:18.560 --> 1:24:21.800
<v Speaker 1>to interact on that level and not get because I did,

1:24:21.840 --> 1:24:24.400
<v Speaker 1>like so many writers and I don't even like, I mean,

1:24:24.439 --> 1:24:27.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like just people get defensive when you're like, why

1:24:27.160 --> 1:24:30.120
<v Speaker 1>is Bridget Jones? Like why is everyone so mean to her?

1:24:30.120 --> 1:24:31.800
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, I guess that's just kind of how

1:24:32.040 --> 1:24:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I felt, And like she also kind of comments on

1:24:36.880 --> 1:24:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I feel like there's some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like there was a string of articles that came out

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<v Speaker 1>in when the Bridget Jones Baby was coming out that

1:24:45.840 --> 1:24:48.520
<v Speaker 1>we're kind of just like Bridget Jones isn't a feminist,

1:24:49.000 --> 1:24:53.479
<v Speaker 1>so screw her, like, which I think is kind of like, Okay,

1:24:53.800 --> 1:24:57.519
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of weak. But Helen Fielding kind of talks

1:24:57.520 --> 1:25:01.160
<v Speaker 1>about that in where she says, quote at the time,

1:25:01.240 --> 1:25:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Bridget said being a feminist with a capital F was

1:25:03.720 --> 1:25:06.759
<v Speaker 1>another thing she felt she wasn't very good at. What's

1:25:06.760 --> 1:25:08.880
<v Speaker 1>great now is that feminism has sort of lost its

1:25:08.960 --> 1:25:12.080
<v Speaker 1>capital F unquote, which I really I thought that quote

1:25:12.160 --> 1:25:15.840
<v Speaker 1>was like super insightful of like, I don't know, like

1:25:16.920 --> 1:25:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I think it is interesting to have a character like

1:25:20.160 --> 1:25:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Bridget who seems to like want to feel good about

1:25:23.120 --> 1:25:26.160
<v Speaker 1>herself and she doesn't seem to really carry a lot

1:25:26.320 --> 1:25:32.400
<v Speaker 1>of hatred or judgment for other women in her life. Um,

1:25:32.640 --> 1:25:34.559
<v Speaker 1>and so it does seem like she is like kind

1:25:34.600 --> 1:25:37.720
<v Speaker 1>of this like aspiring feminist character, but she's just she's

1:25:37.760 --> 1:25:40.519
<v Speaker 1>not given any tools or any people in her life

1:25:40.560 --> 1:25:43.639
<v Speaker 1>to kind of get her there. And so I kind

1:25:43.640 --> 1:25:45.880
<v Speaker 1>of like, I don't know the idea of there's like

1:25:46.000 --> 1:25:49.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of this romantic rom com icon who's like this

1:25:49.760 --> 1:25:54.720
<v Speaker 1>very imperfect, aspiring feminist, Like that's that's cool. I just

1:25:54.840 --> 1:25:59.080
<v Speaker 1>wish that the plot was mostly different. I wish that

1:25:59.160 --> 1:26:02.120
<v Speaker 1>you liked either of the male options at all, a

1:26:02.240 --> 1:26:07.280
<v Speaker 1>single redeeming quality I take, I take, or even like

1:26:07.560 --> 1:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>you know whatever. I know so little about Sex of

1:26:10.680 --> 1:26:12.880
<v Speaker 1>the City, but like I do know how the TV

1:26:13.000 --> 1:26:15.320
<v Speaker 1>show ends, and it's like, just choose to be single

1:26:15.400 --> 1:26:19.200
<v Speaker 1>at the end, Like that would be honestly given the

1:26:19.280 --> 1:26:22.519
<v Speaker 1>characters were given a pretty logical decision in this movie.

1:26:22.760 --> 1:26:27.439
<v Speaker 1>Is like her journey being feeling from like needing that

1:26:27.520 --> 1:26:29.800
<v Speaker 1>she needs to be in a relationship to realizing that

1:26:30.120 --> 1:26:33.280
<v Speaker 1>she actually doesn't, and then it's like she can There's

1:26:33.360 --> 1:26:37.200
<v Speaker 1>so much in her life to be happy about. I

1:26:37.280 --> 1:26:40.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Um, I just wanted to touch on a

1:26:41.000 --> 1:26:47.160
<v Speaker 1>couple other very of the early two thousand's era. Um,

1:26:49.479 --> 1:26:56.080
<v Speaker 1>just things you hate to see. One this movie is painfully,

1:26:56.120 --> 1:27:01.240
<v Speaker 1>painfully white. Bridget seems to only know other white people.

1:27:02.000 --> 1:27:07.760
<v Speaker 1>There is reference to Mark Darcy's ex wife who was Japanese,

1:27:08.080 --> 1:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>and we never see her. We always never like leg

1:27:11.880 --> 1:27:15.640
<v Speaker 1>we see her legs getting railed. Yeah, we see the

1:27:15.800 --> 1:27:18.559
<v Speaker 1>legs of a woman who is having in the flash

1:27:19.360 --> 1:27:24.120
<v Speaker 1>body double. But that's it. Um. But Japanese people are

1:27:24.320 --> 1:27:27.920
<v Speaker 1>referred to as being a cruel race no less than

1:27:28.720 --> 1:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>three or four times throughout the movie, usually from Bridget's mom.

1:27:34.120 --> 1:27:37.519
<v Speaker 1>But then Bridget, even I think, says it was clearly yeah,

1:27:37.560 --> 1:27:40.200
<v Speaker 1>it's like a joke for for them in a way,

1:27:40.479 --> 1:27:45.360
<v Speaker 1>it's not so um you know, that's awful. British's mom

1:27:45.400 --> 1:27:48.040
<v Speaker 1>also makes a holocaust joke within the first five minutes

1:27:48.080 --> 1:27:52.479
<v Speaker 1>in the movie, like two minutes of movie. It is unbelievable, horrifying.

1:27:52.600 --> 1:27:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I had to rewind it to be like, wait, is

1:27:55.080 --> 1:27:58.200
<v Speaker 1>like us to us too. I was like, Wede, let's

1:27:58.280 --> 1:28:03.120
<v Speaker 1>just let's check that out. Uh yeah, and then these

1:28:03.280 --> 1:28:07.880
<v Speaker 1>go completely unchallenged. Bridget has a like token gay best

1:28:07.960 --> 1:28:12.120
<v Speaker 1>friend character who and I had to ask one of

1:28:12.240 --> 1:28:15.920
<v Speaker 1>my British friends, how like offensive the word? And I

1:28:15.960 --> 1:28:18.519
<v Speaker 1>don't even want to say. Okay, I had this question too, Okay,

1:28:18.800 --> 1:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>what what is the answer? So it's basically the equivalent

1:28:23.520 --> 1:28:27.560
<v Speaker 1>of like the American version of the F word that

1:28:27.760 --> 1:28:34.040
<v Speaker 1>is a homophobic slur. Not great. So the word the

1:28:34.200 --> 1:28:39.200
<v Speaker 1>P word, that is a homophobic slur used in England

1:28:39.880 --> 1:28:42.760
<v Speaker 1>gets used a lot in this movie. If I'm wrong

1:28:42.840 --> 1:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>about this, like for our like British listeners, let us know. Um,

1:28:47.800 --> 1:28:51.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm not famously, we just don't know. We're famously not British,

1:28:51.960 --> 1:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>and we don't know the nuances of your homophobic slurs.

1:28:57.439 --> 1:29:00.600
<v Speaker 1>So that Tom was another care to her that I'm like,

1:29:00.760 --> 1:29:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm I don't know, Like it's he clearly is filling

1:29:06.360 --> 1:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>the gay best friend role in her life. But I

1:29:08.800 --> 1:29:12.040
<v Speaker 1>would also argue that he's no better or worse written

1:29:12.120 --> 1:29:14.280
<v Speaker 1>than the other women in the room. Like I think

1:29:14.320 --> 1:29:17.120
<v Speaker 1>we actually know more about him than we know about Chas.

1:29:18.160 --> 1:29:20.559
<v Speaker 1>He has like a bit because he wrote that hit

1:29:20.720 --> 1:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>song nine years ago or something or something. It's kind

1:29:24.200 --> 1:29:26.839
<v Speaker 1>of a fun like it's a fun bit. I mean, ultimately,

1:29:26.960 --> 1:29:31.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like, the only you know, openly gay character we

1:29:31.160 --> 1:29:34.320
<v Speaker 1>have is there to just I mean, only exists in

1:29:34.400 --> 1:29:37.680
<v Speaker 1>relation to Bridget and it's like very much fulfilling the

1:29:37.720 --> 1:29:40.679
<v Speaker 1>gay best friend. But but in terms of her friend group,

1:29:40.760 --> 1:29:43.439
<v Speaker 1>I guess I would say we know one thing about

1:29:43.479 --> 1:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>each of them, except for Chaser, who we know no

1:29:45.880 --> 1:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>things about. She likes to say fuck, and that's the

1:29:50.240 --> 1:29:53.280
<v Speaker 1>main thing that people know about me. So I don't know,

1:29:53.760 --> 1:29:57.040
<v Speaker 1>that's how we talk about you, Caitlin, Like, everyone be careful.

1:29:57.160 --> 1:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Caitlin's coming over and she's gonna shape bus to say,

1:30:00.840 --> 1:30:06.080
<v Speaker 1>try not to gasp when she does it. Um, those

1:30:06.120 --> 1:30:09.599
<v Speaker 1>are the main things that that I noticed. I went

1:30:09.760 --> 1:30:12.519
<v Speaker 1>to really really really quick. I do that we're starting

1:30:12.600 --> 1:30:15.559
<v Speaker 1>to we're quickly approaching the run time of the movie,

1:30:17.720 --> 1:30:20.759
<v Speaker 1>but I wanted to really quick talk about bridgets parents

1:30:20.920 --> 1:30:25.519
<v Speaker 1>for a second, because they do have a small arc

1:30:25.920 --> 1:30:28.880
<v Speaker 1>that again I was like, I was interested in as

1:30:28.960 --> 1:30:32.120
<v Speaker 1>it was starting, and then by the end, I was like, really,

1:30:32.960 --> 1:30:36.680
<v Speaker 1>where we get I mean Bridget and her mom, we

1:30:36.840 --> 1:30:39.719
<v Speaker 1>get a little bit of insight into their relationship. Again,

1:30:40.240 --> 1:30:42.439
<v Speaker 1>some people will argue that this is like a Jane

1:30:42.439 --> 1:30:44.479
<v Speaker 1>Austin contrivance, but I think it's just more of a

1:30:44.560 --> 1:30:48.679
<v Speaker 1>general contrivance of like mother really wants you to get married,

1:30:48.800 --> 1:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>but father is chilling pretty nice. Like I think that

1:30:51.920 --> 1:30:55.400
<v Speaker 1>that's a very common, annoying contrivance that is just made

1:30:55.479 --> 1:30:59.760
<v Speaker 1>to make older women look shrewy kind of just for

1:31:00.000 --> 1:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>no reason. So that already is like, okay, come on.

1:31:05.080 --> 1:31:07.200
<v Speaker 1>But on top of that, I was interested in that

1:31:07.439 --> 1:31:11.160
<v Speaker 1>scene where Bridget's mom is like, I'm not satisfied with

1:31:11.560 --> 1:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>my life and like I'm you know, getting older and

1:31:14.600 --> 1:31:17.439
<v Speaker 1>I've never gotten to have a satisfying career or like

1:31:18.120 --> 1:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>things to sex or sex, like she's dissatisfied with where

1:31:23.040 --> 1:31:26.280
<v Speaker 1>her life is at, and it's like, Okay, this is interesting.

1:31:26.360 --> 1:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>We don't usually get storylines like this, And so Bridget's

1:31:30.680 --> 1:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>mom goes off. She basically started working on qvc uh

1:31:36.280 --> 1:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>and which is like, you know, great for her, but

1:31:39.720 --> 1:31:43.599
<v Speaker 1>it's also inherently connected to her relationship with another man,

1:31:44.120 --> 1:31:46.479
<v Speaker 1>which didn't need to be. And then by the end

1:31:46.600 --> 1:31:50.240
<v Speaker 1>she quote unquote gets over it, even though this solves

1:31:50.280 --> 1:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>none of her marital issues. And then it's supposed to

1:31:53.320 --> 1:31:58.840
<v Speaker 1>seem like really chill of Jim Broadbent of Mulan Rouge

1:31:58.920 --> 1:32:02.959
<v Speaker 1>fame and Paddington Fame. Again, he's Mr Grouper and Paddington.

1:32:03.439 --> 1:32:06.599
<v Speaker 1>Damn what I mean, King, We love Jim Brad Paddington

1:32:06.640 --> 1:32:09.479
<v Speaker 1>connections are all over the place. It does just seem

1:32:09.560 --> 1:32:15.639
<v Speaker 1>like they have fifteen actors total intain And yet when

1:32:15.680 --> 1:32:18.919
<v Speaker 1>we bring Renee Zellweger, when we bring a glorious American

1:32:19.000 --> 1:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>export like Renee Zellwiger, people get mad. Um. They're also

1:32:23.439 --> 1:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>in the IMDb trivia is all sorts of about how

1:32:26.040 --> 1:32:28.559
<v Speaker 1>many of them were in the Harry Potter series too. Yes,

1:32:28.640 --> 1:32:31.040
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of overlap there as well that tracks,

1:32:31.640 --> 1:32:33.880
<v Speaker 1>but like at the end, it's supposed to seem like, oh,

1:32:34.120 --> 1:32:36.519
<v Speaker 1>Jim brad Bent takes her back and isn't that a

1:32:36.600 --> 1:32:39.280
<v Speaker 1>satisfying conclusion, And it's like, well, no, none of her

1:32:39.360 --> 1:32:44.759
<v Speaker 1>problems have been addressed or solved and he showed no growth,

1:32:45.760 --> 1:32:49.240
<v Speaker 1>like her father's mad at her for like doing what

1:32:49.360 --> 1:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>she wanted with her Like it's like, you don't know

1:32:51.880 --> 1:32:55.240
<v Speaker 1>in the same way that both of like it's almost

1:32:55.280 --> 1:32:59.280
<v Speaker 1>like a toxic like generational trauma story where in the

1:32:59.360 --> 1:33:03.200
<v Speaker 1>same way that Jim Broadbent does not care really about

1:33:03.280 --> 1:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>who his wife his wife is, like, nor does Colin

1:33:09.000 --> 1:33:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Firth really care who Bridget Jones is, and we're just

1:33:12.800 --> 1:33:16.680
<v Speaker 1>taken the same scraps that are offered to us generation

1:33:16.800 --> 1:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>in and out. I was so bummed out with that

1:33:18.840 --> 1:33:21.639
<v Speaker 1>because I thought that was like a funny, interesting story

1:33:21.800 --> 1:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>of like, oh, she's like forging her own path and

1:33:25.000 --> 1:33:27.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like kind of dorky and kind of messy, but

1:33:27.439 --> 1:33:30.519
<v Speaker 1>like go mom, But then it's not. Yeah, I was

1:33:30.560 --> 1:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>so frustrated by that because she leaves Bridget's dad because

1:33:35.600 --> 1:33:40.679
<v Speaker 1>none of her like emotional or sexual needs or being

1:33:41.040 --> 1:33:44.439
<v Speaker 1>met in this marriage, which is huge for that for

1:33:44.520 --> 1:33:48.760
<v Speaker 1>women of that generation, Like that's a hugely And she's like,

1:33:48.800 --> 1:33:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna, you know, like strike out on my own,

1:33:51.200 --> 1:33:54.479
<v Speaker 1>do my own thing. And then she basically just goes

1:33:54.840 --> 1:33:58.559
<v Speaker 1>immediately into the arms of a different man who treats

1:33:58.600 --> 1:34:02.559
<v Speaker 1>her worse. So then she just retreats back to Jim Broadbent,

1:34:02.680 --> 1:34:08.240
<v Speaker 1>even though he's again just like demonstrated no indication that

1:34:08.520 --> 1:34:10.800
<v Speaker 1>he has like that he's going to treat her better

1:34:11.040 --> 1:34:13.560
<v Speaker 1>or be more attentive to her needs or anything like that,

1:34:13.960 --> 1:34:16.400
<v Speaker 1>which now that we're saying it is literally what is

1:34:16.479 --> 1:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>happening to her daughter, Like q Grant is the QBC guy,

1:34:21.520 --> 1:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and Bridget's dad is Colin Firth. Oh, I wonder if

1:34:27.040 --> 1:34:30.439
<v Speaker 1>that was on purpose or if just if life is

1:34:30.520 --> 1:34:33.880
<v Speaker 1>that bleak. But I was so I wanted, I mean,

1:34:34.400 --> 1:34:36.920
<v Speaker 1>all the women of the Jones family, I'm just like,

1:34:37.600 --> 1:34:44.640
<v Speaker 1>come on, come on, truly truly. But that said, I

1:34:44.720 --> 1:34:48.639
<v Speaker 1>love I love Jimma Jones, She's always fun. I love her,

1:34:48.760 --> 1:34:52.439
<v Speaker 1>and I love Jim Broadbent. And I didn't realize that

1:34:52.680 --> 1:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the friend was moaning myrtle. But now I can't stop thinking, well,

1:34:56.000 --> 1:34:57.800
<v Speaker 1>that was a complete mind funk for me because when

1:34:57.800 --> 1:35:00.479
<v Speaker 1>I saw the Harry Potter movie that she first shows

1:35:00.560 --> 1:35:03.400
<v Speaker 1>up in, which is Chamber of Secrets, I think, like

1:35:03.520 --> 1:35:05.519
<v Speaker 1>she's supposed to be like a teenager who would have,

1:35:05.640 --> 1:35:09.240
<v Speaker 1>like Bean a student at Hogwarts, and then you see

1:35:09.320 --> 1:35:12.720
<v Speaker 1>her in other movies when she's a full adult, and

1:35:12.800 --> 1:35:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait a minute, this person is not

1:35:14.920 --> 1:35:19.240
<v Speaker 1>like six, supposed to be like fifteen. Yeah. Yeah, it's

1:35:19.320 --> 1:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>so bizarre. I have been here for so many Halloween's

1:35:21.800 --> 1:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>because I look just like Vaning Myrtles. Oh my god,

1:35:25.920 --> 1:35:29.240
<v Speaker 1>I do love Like that's the best like stretch of

1:35:29.400 --> 1:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>like Riverdale logic of like, no, she's fifteen, and it's like, no,

1:35:33.880 --> 1:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>she's forty two, but but I believe I fully believed

1:35:39.240 --> 1:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>she was fifteen. Yeah, same. Ah. Does anyone have anything

1:35:45.200 --> 1:35:49.000
<v Speaker 1>else they would like to talk about regarding Bridget Jones

1:35:49.120 --> 1:35:52.879
<v Speaker 1>and her diary? I think I'm going to watch the others.

1:35:53.160 --> 1:35:55.920
<v Speaker 1>The type prison thing is really something I need to

1:35:56.000 --> 1:36:00.519
<v Speaker 1>check out. It's handled just about as well or should

1:36:00.520 --> 1:36:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I say poorly as you would expect. Yes, yes, Um,

1:36:05.080 --> 1:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>the music budget in this movie it's unbelievable. Okay, you're

1:36:09.160 --> 1:36:11.640
<v Speaker 1>a producer, so you know a lot more about that.

1:36:11.720 --> 1:36:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I was curious because it was like they used so

1:36:14.920 --> 1:36:18.559
<v Speaker 1>many huge, huge what's the one she's singing along too

1:36:18.640 --> 1:36:23.840
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning to Yes? And it's also a whole

1:36:24.120 --> 1:36:28.320
<v Speaker 1>other level of budget for someone to like sing along

1:36:28.520 --> 1:36:32.160
<v Speaker 1>to it, Like there's playing and then there's like interacting,

1:36:32.200 --> 1:36:34.920
<v Speaker 1>and then there's like you know it didn't They always

1:36:34.960 --> 1:36:36.639
<v Speaker 1>ask us like, if people are going to do a dance,

1:36:36.720 --> 1:36:38.720
<v Speaker 1>then you have to like, do you know it's all

1:36:38.920 --> 1:36:41.280
<v Speaker 1>a the whole thing. I mean, I'm probably being dumb

1:36:41.360 --> 1:36:43.360
<v Speaker 1>and music supervisor will listen to this and be like,

1:36:43.400 --> 1:36:47.040
<v Speaker 1>shut the funk up, But I think it's a whole thing,

1:36:47.160 --> 1:36:49.519
<v Speaker 1>and so yeah, I just could not stop thinking about that.

1:36:49.600 --> 1:36:53.000
<v Speaker 1>The movie made absolute bank though, so sure, I mean,

1:36:53.360 --> 1:36:58.800
<v Speaker 1>who hundred million dollars it was million dollar budget or something,

1:36:59.240 --> 1:37:02.120
<v Speaker 1>which is I mean, I'm glad that it, like you know, launched.

1:37:02.240 --> 1:37:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean Renezellweger, I think, up to this point was

1:37:04.680 --> 1:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>most famous for having been in Jerry Maguire and then

1:37:08.080 --> 1:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>this is kind of what like led her to like

1:37:10.479 --> 1:37:14.439
<v Speaker 1>carrying movies on her own. And I love Renee Lwager.

1:37:14.520 --> 1:37:17.439
<v Speaker 1>I think she's a great performer, Like I have no

1:37:18.479 --> 1:37:23.280
<v Speaker 1>no notes for Rene's Lwager, except that Judy was not great.

1:37:23.640 --> 1:37:26.720
<v Speaker 1>But I'm I'm glad that she has an Oscar. But

1:37:28.080 --> 1:37:30.879
<v Speaker 1>that was a messy movie. But imagine someone getting nominated

1:37:30.960 --> 1:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>for Best Actress for a rom com unheard of. I'm

1:37:35.120 --> 1:37:39.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of it's so. I'm like, I guess we just

1:37:39.439 --> 1:37:42.720
<v Speaker 1>had to be there, like because it's so because she

1:37:42.920 --> 1:37:44.920
<v Speaker 1>gives a great performance, but so do a lot of

1:37:45.160 --> 1:37:48.960
<v Speaker 1>rom com performers, and it's not even a thing. I'm like,

1:37:49.360 --> 1:37:51.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious if it has to do with that whole

1:37:51.680 --> 1:37:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Like she changed her body to play the part, which

1:37:54.880 --> 1:37:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like is classically Oscar Batty in a kind

1:37:58.080 --> 1:38:00.519
<v Speaker 1>of toxic way. But I just I don't Maybe it

1:38:00.640 --> 1:38:04.880
<v Speaker 1>was just it was so successful. I don't know, but

1:38:05.000 --> 1:38:08.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, you know, good for her. They're like, we've

1:38:08.520 --> 1:38:12.080
<v Speaker 1>never seen an American do this authentic of a British accent.

1:38:12.280 --> 1:38:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Give her an Oscar. I guess. Also just like another

1:38:14.960 --> 1:38:17.519
<v Speaker 1>shout out to Rene's lgar because I feel like she's

1:38:18.120 --> 1:38:21.719
<v Speaker 1>uniquely criticized for how she looks and has been uniquely

1:38:21.720 --> 1:38:24.400
<v Speaker 1>criticized for how she looks at every point in her

1:38:24.479 --> 1:38:27.120
<v Speaker 1>career in a way that I feel like pretty cleanly

1:38:27.160 --> 1:38:31.519
<v Speaker 1>demonstrates for like, there's nothing you can do to not

1:38:31.680 --> 1:38:34.479
<v Speaker 1>get criticized, because when she put on weight for a part,

1:38:34.880 --> 1:38:37.320
<v Speaker 1>people made fun of her. When she lost weight the

1:38:37.400 --> 1:38:40.519
<v Speaker 1>year after this to do Chicago, everyone said she's too skinny.

1:38:40.760 --> 1:38:43.599
<v Speaker 1>She looks bad when she's gotten any sort of anything

1:38:43.840 --> 1:38:45.719
<v Speaker 1>that has altered. I mean she was like being mocked

1:38:45.720 --> 1:38:47.880
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago for getting plastic surgery, which

1:38:48.040 --> 1:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>everyone does. And like for someone who see who's like

1:38:52.280 --> 1:38:57.120
<v Speaker 1>extremely talented, has like a shelf full of trophies and

1:38:57.240 --> 1:39:01.519
<v Speaker 1>seems like a really kind person, like she's just been

1:39:01.680 --> 1:39:05.639
<v Speaker 1>absolutely like torn to shreds no matter how she looks

1:39:05.680 --> 1:39:08.760
<v Speaker 1>at any phase in her career or life. So she

1:39:08.880 --> 1:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>had an amazing quote I read when someone was criticizing

1:39:12.560 --> 1:39:15.720
<v Speaker 1>her for like supposedly having work done over the past

1:39:15.760 --> 1:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>few years. She said, like, of course I look different.

1:39:19.120 --> 1:39:22.720
<v Speaker 1>I've aged also because I'm happy now. I was like,

1:39:23.000 --> 1:39:27.519
<v Speaker 1>I remember that girl, which I thought was great. Yeah, No,

1:39:27.680 --> 1:39:31.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean she's gotten it almost as bad as anybody.

1:39:31.320 --> 1:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Just any move she's made unbelievable totally, and she's so

1:39:35.240 --> 1:39:39.400
<v Speaker 1>talented and like yeah so I and especially I mean

1:39:39.479 --> 1:39:42.000
<v Speaker 1>if you compare like even if you look at the

1:39:42.120 --> 1:39:44.920
<v Speaker 1>three main players in this movie of like they have,

1:39:45.160 --> 1:39:48.479
<v Speaker 1>they are all twenty years older now. But who is

1:39:48.560 --> 1:39:50.880
<v Speaker 1>the only person that has taken a load of ship

1:39:51.080 --> 1:39:56.200
<v Speaker 1>for that? It's Renee's Alberger. Um, she's great, So shout

1:39:56.240 --> 1:39:59.880
<v Speaker 1>out to Renee. I don't know who won the Academy Award,

1:40:00.040 --> 1:40:02.880
<v Speaker 1>said of her, but oh yeah, I don't. It would

1:40:03.000 --> 1:40:06.439
<v Speaker 1>be wild if someone won won a Performance Academy Award

1:40:06.600 --> 1:40:12.120
<v Speaker 1>for for a rom com. I can't imagine. Wow. Anyway,

1:40:12.240 --> 1:40:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to know who won that oscar? I know,

1:40:14.080 --> 1:40:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, who snatched that from Renee's hands? What was

1:40:17.040 --> 1:40:19.640
<v Speaker 1>it would have been? It would have been too so

1:40:19.720 --> 1:40:22.800
<v Speaker 1>it would have been two to ceremony. Right, that's how

1:40:22.880 --> 1:40:26.160
<v Speaker 1>that works. Um, who t like it? Oh? Nicole Kidman

1:40:26.240 --> 1:40:31.599
<v Speaker 1>in the Hours, So another traditionally hot woman who slightly

1:40:31.640 --> 1:40:36.400
<v Speaker 1>altered her appearance and gave a good performance classic and

1:40:36.479 --> 1:40:40.120
<v Speaker 1>then they would both star in Cold Mountain together not

1:40:40.280 --> 1:40:43.080
<v Speaker 1>long after that. Right, Wait, I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I'm wrong.

1:40:43.760 --> 1:40:46.320
<v Speaker 1>This year of nomination. No, this is Halle Berry's year.

1:40:46.479 --> 1:40:51.880
<v Speaker 1>So it's fine, Okay, Okay, it was Nicole because Renee

1:40:52.520 --> 1:40:55.120
<v Speaker 1>she's on a fucking hot streak. In the early two thousand's,

1:40:55.280 --> 1:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>she was nominated for Best Actress two years in a row.

1:40:57.800 --> 1:41:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Because she's nominated for Chicago the next year. Wow. Yeah,

1:41:01.720 --> 1:41:04.400
<v Speaker 1>And then all of a sudden, she's living her life

1:41:04.479 --> 1:41:06.920
<v Speaker 1>and then comes back and we're like, I guess we're

1:41:06.920 --> 1:41:10.719
<v Speaker 1>going to give it to her for Judy's favorite film.

1:41:11.000 --> 1:41:13.719
<v Speaker 1>It always bothers me. I love I love Renee Seliger,

1:41:13.800 --> 1:41:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and I love Judy Garland and that movie sucks. So

1:41:17.160 --> 1:41:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I guess I just don't know what to say. I

1:41:19.360 --> 1:41:21.960
<v Speaker 1>did not watch it. I didn't think I could handle.

1:41:22.600 --> 1:41:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I was so I was really rooting for Judy, but

1:41:26.640 --> 1:41:32.719
<v Speaker 1>it's simply is a stinker. Yeah. Anyways, Bridget Jones Larga Jones,

1:41:33.080 --> 1:41:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh does this movie pass the Bechtel test? Yeah? Doesn't.

1:41:37.040 --> 1:41:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I actually wasn't sure. I forgot to pay super close

1:41:40.080 --> 1:41:42.880
<v Speaker 1>attention because I know that women interact a lot in

1:41:42.960 --> 1:41:46.439
<v Speaker 1>this movie. Between Bridget and her two friends who are women,

1:41:46.960 --> 1:41:50.599
<v Speaker 1>she and her mother. She has a female colleague at

1:41:50.600 --> 1:41:54.760
<v Speaker 1>work named Perpetua. Perpetua Yeah, oh god, I'm so glad.

1:41:54.800 --> 1:41:57.560
<v Speaker 1>We comment about it, which is like, I was like,

1:41:57.680 --> 1:42:01.880
<v Speaker 1>what an iconic name per Petua, Like it sounds like

1:42:01.920 --> 1:42:04.360
<v Speaker 1>a Greek myth right, and I was like, maybe it's

1:42:04.360 --> 1:42:06.720
<v Speaker 1>a pride and prejudice thing, but I don't think it is.

1:42:06.920 --> 1:42:10.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like there are people in England literally

1:42:10.160 --> 1:42:14.639
<v Speaker 1>named perpetual. I mean, it's like a Midsummer Night's dream type.

1:42:16.960 --> 1:42:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I dropped off paying attention to whether it's super passed consistently.

1:42:20.520 --> 1:42:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I do know that it at least passed in that

1:42:23.600 --> 1:42:26.639
<v Speaker 1>longer scene with Bridget and her mom where Bridgets talking

1:42:26.680 --> 1:42:30.240
<v Speaker 1>about or where Bridget's mom is talking about it's. Unfortunately

1:42:30.720 --> 1:42:34.240
<v Speaker 1>the thing I had past it was Bridget's mom being like,

1:42:35.160 --> 1:42:39.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, I didn't really want children like that exchange. Oh,

1:42:40.280 --> 1:42:43.040
<v Speaker 1>if I had to do it again, I wouldn't have you. Bridget.

1:42:43.120 --> 1:42:45.439
<v Speaker 1>She's like, you know, I'm your child, right, and like

1:42:45.880 --> 1:42:50.360
<v Speaker 1>that passes, So there you go. Yeah, okay, yeah. I

1:42:50.560 --> 1:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>was just noticing that most of the conversations between women,

1:42:54.760 --> 1:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>while many of them are named, the context of so

1:42:59.439 --> 1:43:03.800
<v Speaker 1>many of the conversations were about Mark or Daniel or

1:43:03.920 --> 1:43:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Bridget's dad or the guy that her mom has an

1:43:06.720 --> 1:43:11.599
<v Speaker 1>affair with, or or they're talking about boyfriends or like yeah,

1:43:11.720 --> 1:43:14.840
<v Speaker 1>it's it doesn't pass as much as it should given

1:43:14.880 --> 1:43:19.599
<v Speaker 1>how many female characters there are named female characters. Yeah,

1:43:19.760 --> 1:43:22.439
<v Speaker 1>but if we're if we're keeping close score, it does

1:43:22.520 --> 1:43:24.800
<v Speaker 1>pass at least a couple of times that I was

1:43:24.880 --> 1:43:27.560
<v Speaker 1>able to find, but only, but weirdly, only in like

1:43:27.720 --> 1:43:33.320
<v Speaker 1>two line exchanges in longer conversations. But I thought it

1:43:33.400 --> 1:43:35.600
<v Speaker 1>was that was one of my favorite bad passes was

1:43:35.880 --> 1:43:38.240
<v Speaker 1>a mother telling her daughter that she wishes that she

1:43:38.439 --> 1:43:43.559
<v Speaker 1>was never born. It does pass, that's rough, I know. Yeah,

1:43:44.560 --> 1:43:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Well that brings us to our nipple scale, so zero

1:43:48.360 --> 1:43:51.960
<v Speaker 1>to five nipples based on an examination of how the

1:43:52.080 --> 1:43:57.599
<v Speaker 1>movie fares from an intersectional feminist lens, and I think

1:43:57.760 --> 1:44:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I can only give this movie like two because while

1:44:05.080 --> 1:44:09.519
<v Speaker 1>I do appreciate the character of Bridget Jones and the

1:44:09.920 --> 1:44:15.000
<v Speaker 1>like exploration of her insecurities and her being a more

1:44:15.280 --> 1:44:21.519
<v Speaker 1>relatable rom com protagonists who is a woman more so

1:44:21.920 --> 1:44:27.120
<v Speaker 1>than many other rom coms, especially of this era, there's

1:44:27.200 --> 1:44:33.599
<v Speaker 1>just so much of this era bleeding into the story

1:44:34.000 --> 1:44:38.680
<v Speaker 1>and contributing all these problematic things to it, namely the

1:44:39.080 --> 1:44:42.920
<v Speaker 1>like having to settle for one or the other of

1:44:43.040 --> 1:44:49.880
<v Speaker 1>two very shitty toxic men um, the just offensive and

1:44:49.960 --> 1:44:57.000
<v Speaker 1>problematic jokes, casual racism, casual homophobia, things like that that

1:44:57.920 --> 1:45:03.040
<v Speaker 1>make the movie not age very well. But yeah, I

1:45:03.080 --> 1:45:05.080
<v Speaker 1>wish I wish you could just take a character who

1:45:05.200 --> 1:45:10.840
<v Speaker 1>is similarly relatable and uh dealing with you know what

1:45:11.120 --> 1:45:16.120
<v Speaker 1>life throws at you as a woman who is like

1:45:16.520 --> 1:45:21.479
<v Speaker 1>navigating her career and trying to navigate romantic relationships and

1:45:21.600 --> 1:45:25.760
<v Speaker 1>trying to navigate just everything in your personal or professional life,

1:45:26.680 --> 1:45:30.080
<v Speaker 1>and have her be relatable and interesting and well developed

1:45:30.760 --> 1:45:35.240
<v Speaker 1>and just like put in a scenario that isn't so problematic.

1:45:36.360 --> 1:45:41.280
<v Speaker 1>So that's what I want for Bridget Jones. Um. But yeah,

1:45:41.320 --> 1:45:45.840
<v Speaker 1>so I'll give the movie to nipples, and I will

1:45:46.240 --> 1:45:50.760
<v Speaker 1>give one to Paddington Bear, and I'll give the other one,

1:45:53.520 --> 1:46:00.280
<v Speaker 1>uh Phoenix Buchanan, Hugh Grant's character in Paddington Too. Maybe

1:46:00.360 --> 1:46:04.240
<v Speaker 1>want to call in Firth for losing out on that part. Yeah,

1:46:04.760 --> 1:46:07.200
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I'll give him a half nipple and then

1:46:07.240 --> 1:46:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll give another half nipple to um. Mr Gruber a K.

1:46:12.360 --> 1:46:16.519
<v Speaker 1>Jim Broadbent. I love Jim Brodbin. I feel like I

1:46:16.640 --> 1:46:21.599
<v Speaker 1>first saw Jim Broadbent in the really crummy Narnia movies

1:46:21.680 --> 1:46:24.439
<v Speaker 1>when I was he was in those. I didn't remember

1:46:24.560 --> 1:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>him being in those. He plays I think their grandfather.

1:46:27.200 --> 1:46:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I used to have a huge crush

1:46:29.160 --> 1:46:33.599
<v Speaker 1>on one of the like siblings in the Narnia family.

1:46:35.400 --> 1:46:40.479
<v Speaker 1>His name was Scandar. Anyway, he's a lawyer, now I learned,

1:46:41.760 --> 1:46:45.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, do you mean a barrister? Probably he's British?

1:46:45.600 --> 1:46:50.520
<v Speaker 1>What even as a barrister it must be something like related.

1:46:50.960 --> 1:46:53.160
<v Speaker 1>It seems like government really is it the same way

1:46:53.360 --> 1:46:56.799
<v Speaker 1>that like a lawyer and an attorney, that's like basically

1:46:56.840 --> 1:46:58.720
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. It's just like two different words for it.

1:46:58.840 --> 1:47:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Maybe in England it's you're a lawyer or but also

1:47:03.040 --> 1:47:05.880
<v Speaker 1>a barrister, same things. I don't know. So for our

1:47:06.680 --> 1:47:09.800
<v Speaker 1>for our British listeners, we need a lot of please

1:47:09.800 --> 1:47:15.640
<v Speaker 1>answer all of our questions. Do you have more than

1:47:15.720 --> 1:47:25.840
<v Speaker 1>fifteen actors? And um, I'm gonna go to nipples here

1:47:25.920 --> 1:47:30.080
<v Speaker 1>as well. I feel like Bridget Jones, the character I

1:47:30.240 --> 1:47:33.479
<v Speaker 1>am rooting for, I feel like there were so many

1:47:33.560 --> 1:47:38.559
<v Speaker 1>good opportunities in this movie to take on like Bridgets

1:47:38.680 --> 1:47:44.479
<v Speaker 1>insecurities and create a thoughtful plot that says something, And

1:47:45.200 --> 1:47:48.639
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately most of those opportunities were just like dropped where

1:47:48.680 --> 1:47:51.599
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's very very rare in a rom

1:47:51.720 --> 1:47:56.439
<v Speaker 1>com for like the pressure that's put on women's bodies

1:47:56.520 --> 1:47:59.000
<v Speaker 1>to look a very certain way is even brought up

1:47:59.240 --> 1:48:03.040
<v Speaker 1>at all in meaningful way, and this one does, but

1:48:03.200 --> 1:48:06.320
<v Speaker 1>then nothing happens, And like it's very rare in a

1:48:06.720 --> 1:48:09.679
<v Speaker 1>rom com for agism to come up in any way,

1:48:10.680 --> 1:48:14.360
<v Speaker 1>and this one does, but then nothing happens, And so

1:48:14.560 --> 1:48:18.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like, I don't know. I hope that I don't think.

1:48:18.080 --> 1:48:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we already know that rebooting Bridget Jones is

1:48:20.680 --> 1:48:22.800
<v Speaker 1>not the solution to this problem, but I would like

1:48:22.920 --> 1:48:26.040
<v Speaker 1>to see in rom coms more often. And I feel

1:48:26.040 --> 1:48:28.280
<v Speaker 1>like this happens on TV more often than it does

1:48:28.320 --> 1:48:31.080
<v Speaker 1>in movies generally, which is true of a lot of

1:48:31.680 --> 1:48:35.960
<v Speaker 1>more progressive things that you know, like women who are

1:48:36.479 --> 1:48:39.880
<v Speaker 1>responding to the pressures that society is putting onto them

1:48:40.000 --> 1:48:43.280
<v Speaker 1>and like struggling with it because it is an impossible

1:48:43.360 --> 1:48:46.160
<v Speaker 1>bar to clear and you're never going to be the

1:48:46.280 --> 1:48:49.840
<v Speaker 1>person that everyone wants you to be. And I like

1:48:50.000 --> 1:48:52.559
<v Speaker 1>seeing a character struggle with that, and I like seeing

1:48:52.600 --> 1:48:55.120
<v Speaker 1>her be like what the funk and sometimes being like

1:48:55.280 --> 1:48:59.000
<v Speaker 1>fuck you, I'm gonna get drunk and listen to Shaka Khan,

1:48:59.080 --> 1:49:02.840
<v Speaker 1>because like it's just all like I don't know, I

1:49:03.840 --> 1:49:09.320
<v Speaker 1>understand why like female audiences of this time loved Bridget

1:49:09.439 --> 1:49:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Jones for being so like just putting it all out there.

1:49:13.439 --> 1:49:17.000
<v Speaker 1>But privately, I don't know. I'm pro diary anti plot

1:49:17.800 --> 1:49:20.280
<v Speaker 1>of this movie, and that is simply where and I went.

1:49:20.360 --> 1:49:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I went. I also, I just like I wanted more

1:49:23.040 --> 1:49:27.320
<v Speaker 1>for Bridget's friends to like they're clearly all like miserable

1:49:28.080 --> 1:49:30.719
<v Speaker 1>and very insecure as well. Just everyone in this movie

1:49:30.800 --> 1:49:33.280
<v Speaker 1>is so deeply insecure, and I feel like no one

1:49:33.360 --> 1:49:35.400
<v Speaker 1>gets less insecure by the end of the movie, So

1:49:36.040 --> 1:49:39.439
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's just real life. Um, I'm gonna give it

1:49:39.479 --> 1:49:43.160
<v Speaker 1>two nipples. I'm gonna give one to renee Zel Wigger

1:49:43.400 --> 1:49:47.599
<v Speaker 1>because I really love her, and then I will give

1:49:48.240 --> 1:49:58.720
<v Speaker 1>my other nipple to Chasser. Questions shassa, she says, fuck yeah,

1:49:58.760 --> 1:50:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I think two is right. I mean, if you watch,

1:50:01.880 --> 1:50:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I think I almost want to give it three. In

1:50:03.960 --> 1:50:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the context of Jamie reading that quote from Helen fielding

1:50:08.040 --> 1:50:10.000
<v Speaker 1>now because you're like, oh, she was just sort of

1:50:10.080 --> 1:50:14.800
<v Speaker 1>reflecting the time she lived in, you know. Um, but yeah,

1:50:14.920 --> 1:50:18.400
<v Speaker 1>it's almost worse that they like bring up these issues

1:50:18.840 --> 1:50:23.280
<v Speaker 1>and then let them fall, you know. Um, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think two is right. Unfortunately, but then I love bridgets,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, I do. I want to read the

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<v Speaker 1>book honestly because she was so beloved and I see

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<v Speaker 1>why they did this. You know, do I give my

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<v Speaker 1>nipples out if you want to give them to you too? There?

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<v Speaker 1>For my goodness, no one's ever given us there maybe

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<v Speaker 1>once or twice, but in our almost three hundred episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>you think, God, God, I can't believe people us like

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<v Speaker 1>nipples more. Thank you so much for I feel so honored.

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<v Speaker 1>I have. I have one last Rene's Albiger quote I

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<v Speaker 1>like to share because Renee's Alwager has also been very

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<v Speaker 1>open about c as as an adult woman who has

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<v Speaker 1>been single for many stretches of her life and has

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<v Speaker 1>come to be like I was happy, so fuck you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>This was what Renee Zellweger said a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>ago about Bridget Jones. She says, if we were all

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<v Speaker 1>privy to one another's inner dialogue, we would recognize that

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<v Speaker 1>we are so very much alike. We all feel the

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<v Speaker 1>same pressures to measure up, and we all share the

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<v Speaker 1>same fears that we won't. I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, Renee Zellweger. She is and for her time,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Bridget Jones was doing the best she

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<v Speaker 1>could with the Crumby plot. She was given our fledgling

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<v Speaker 1>feminist Bridget Jones. She's working on it now she has

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<v Speaker 1>I guess now she's stuck with Colin Firth's baby, so

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<v Speaker 1>I hope maybe they get divorced and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>too three years time we get like Bridget Jones is

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<v Speaker 1>feminist Awakening. The movie well, if it's, if it does

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<v Speaker 1>the MoMA mi A schedule, there will be Renee will

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<v Speaker 1>play like Margot, Robbie's mom or whatever, and will be

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<v Speaker 1>their kids. It would be kind of fun if Renee

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<v Speaker 1>or if Bridget, Sorry, they're one and the same. If

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<v Speaker 1>Bridget had like an extremely like militant feminist daughter and

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<v Speaker 1>then was like learning retroactively from her daughter and they

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<v Speaker 1>were bumped here it is. I'm like, Helen, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>an idea. Well, speaking of writings and such, Amy, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, thank you so much for being here and

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<v Speaker 1>things nipples um uh. Tell us about your book that's

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<v Speaker 1>coming out soon. How can people get it? How can

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<v Speaker 1>people follow totally? It's called Notes from the Bathroom Line.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a big collection of humor writing by a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty Women in Comedy. Jamie's in it, um and

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlin's not. But it' because I didn't know Caitlin and

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<v Speaker 1>now I feel horrible. Um. And So you can order

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<v Speaker 1>it from wherever you can go to notes from the

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<v Speaker 1>bathroom line dot com. It makes it very easy to

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<v Speaker 1>preorder it, especially from female owned in the bookstores. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And it comes out March sixte Baby amazing, highly recommended.

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<v Speaker 1>We're we're gonna post a little more about the book

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<v Speaker 1>on our social media as well, because there's so much

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<v Speaker 1>overlap between women in the book and Bechtel cast guests

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<v Speaker 1>so well. I love the Otsco um Austin Powers episode

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<v Speaker 1>so good, she's amazing champion. The fact that she's only

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<v Speaker 1>been on to cover Mike Myers vehicles left so so straight,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's just something. And at this point of like

1:53:47.880 --> 1:53:52.960
<v Speaker 1>do we stop like or do we double down? I'm like, Okay, Otsco,

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<v Speaker 1>you're coming on for the cat and the hat. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>it is what it is our number one requested movie

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<v Speaker 1>that we cover. Literally no one has ever requested. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, that is so straight. I couldn't. I was like,

1:54:09.080 --> 1:54:11.519
<v Speaker 1>we did Wayne's World by the other Mike Myers movies

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<v Speaker 1>I just ran out, so gosh, there's a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>offensive ones where he's doing a weird character and or accent. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's skip those. Let's do a cat in the hat.

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1:54:55.280 --> 1:54:57.400
<v Speaker 1>you know we we don't say this enough, but why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you go on you know iTunes or whatever? Give

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<v Speaker 1>us give us, speaking of needing nipples, give us some

1:55:05.960 --> 1:55:13.879
<v Speaker 1>more ratings, give us some stars, preferably five out of five. Um. Anyway, Um, cheerio,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Bye,