1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Colts Reunion Podcast, a conversation with former 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Colts players look back at their career, what they're up 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: to now, and how the Colts played a positive role 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: in their lives. 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Colts Reunion Podcast, our summer podcast 6 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: series catching up with former Colts players going down memory 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: lane discussing the positive impact the Colts in the NFL 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: played in their lives. I'm Matt Taylor inside the Indiana 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: Union Construction Industry Radio studio, and most Colts fans won't 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: have to think back too far to remember our guest today. 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 2: Offensive tackle Anthony Costanzo joins Us retired after the twenty 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 2: twenty season. Played ten seasons with the Colts after being 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: drafted in the first round in twenty eleven. Played in 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty four career games for the Colts 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: and started all of them at left tackle. Castanzo was 16 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: a gamer fought through injuries and ailments as best he could. 17 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: He started all sixteen games and six of his ten 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: seasons and never missed more than five in the other four. 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: He's often referred to as one of the most underappreciated 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: Colts in recent pass considering he was never named All 21 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: Pro or selected to the Pro Bowl, but his teammates, 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 2: his coaches, and die hard Colts fans they knew how 23 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: integral Costanzo was to the success of the Colts. The 24 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: team was just three and twelve without Costanzo in the 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: lineup during his career. So, without further Ado, here's number 26 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: seventy four in your programs. Back with us again, Anthony 27 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: Costanzo AC. Thanks for your time beginning today. 28 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 3: Man, how are you my pleasure? You know, I'm more 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 3: than happy to Colin. If you're gonna hype me up 30 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 3: with that Colin as much as you need. If you're 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: gonna talk to that cool about me. 32 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: I'm all about it always. Always. The phone line is 33 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 2: always clear for you. So anytime you want to talk ball, 34 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: we would love to have you. So this is so 35 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: cool for us. Like I said, I mean, it seems 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: like I mean, it's not that long ago that you 37 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: hung it up, but in some ways it seems like 38 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 2: a long time has passed. Considering that's the enough O. 39 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: It goes so quickly, and you know, so much happens, 40 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: storylines evolve. So let's talk about you first. In terms 41 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: of going back to the start, going down memory lane 42 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: a little bit, let's go back to your time at 43 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: Boston College coming out of high school. Was was it 44 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: true that you didn't have any major scholarships coming out 45 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: of high school going into college. I found that very 46 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: hard to believe, but that's what I read. Is there 47 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:26,839 Speaker 2: validity to that? 48 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 3: It was one hundred percent of Literally I had absolutely nothing. 49 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: I I was six seven, two hundred and ten, two 50 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: hundred and fifteen pounds, so, you know, people basically said, 51 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: you know, you're not fast enough to be a tight end. 52 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 3: You're not You're not going to be big enough to 53 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: play offensive line. I was kind of like an in betweener. 54 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: Nobody really knew what I was going to be. And 55 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: then luckily, you know, a coach at from fourteen in 56 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: military academy saw me at a one day camp at 57 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: North Carolina and was like, look, He literally said, look, 58 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: you're a tweener. You need some time to develop. Coming 59 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: to me for a year and we'll you know, you'll 60 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: have people knocking at your door. 61 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: He was right, Wow, So then, so then how did 62 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: you ultimately landed Boston College? Then? 63 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: So that was coach John Schumann who saw me at 64 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 3: the North Carolina camp. I went to Four Union Military 65 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 3: Academy for one semester after my senior year of high school. 66 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: I went out there in August. I did summer camp, 67 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: which was I believe if I recall, we had triple 68 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: sessions for summer camp at Fork Union. It was no joke. 69 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: Wow. 70 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: And they, you know, I had a really good season. 71 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 3: I was a real late bloomer, so I developed physically 72 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 3: a lot. So coming out of Fort Union, I was, 73 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 3: you know, I still was no monster, but I was 74 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: six seven forty five now, so I had gained about 75 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: thirty pounds since then my senior year of high school 76 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: and really started to kind of come in my own physically. 77 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: And they really promoted me at Fort Union to colleges, 78 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: and I had all kinds of scholarships. And actually some 79 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: of the coaches that I had really made good relationship 80 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: with were some of the coaches from Temple University. But 81 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: I wasn't planning on going to Temple. But then they 82 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 3: called me one day and you know, I'm like, oh, 83 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: it's a coach from Temple. I was in the car 84 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: with my dad. I'm like, oh, it's a coach from Temple. 85 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: So I picked up and talked to him, and I'm like, yeah, 86 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:05,839 Speaker 3: you know, I'm not sure I'm going to be heading 87 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: that way. He's like, actually, we're at Boston College now, 88 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh really, So then the rest is 89 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: kind of history. Ended up going on a visit, really 90 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: liked it, really meshed well with everybody, and just went 91 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: and you know, the rest is history. 92 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 2: So you talked about, you know, hitting a growth spurt 93 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: or developing kind of light. You talk about your height. 94 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: Were you always I mean, when did you become six 95 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: foot seven? Did you inherit that from your mom or 96 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: your dad or what part of your family did that 97 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: come from? 98 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? So both my parents are tall. My mom's fat ten, 99 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: my dad six ' four, and I mean we've got 100 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: athletics on both sides of the family. But you know 101 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: when I when I came into high school, I was 102 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 3: about five to ten. 103 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: Wow. 104 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: So yeah, I went through every awkward phase you could 105 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: possibly imagine that someone going from five to ten to 106 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: six seven? Does my high school career. 107 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: In a lot of clothes, right? 108 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh yeah, a lot of clothes, A lot of shoes. 109 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: I was. I was my own shoe size until I 110 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: basically every year until I was eighteen so it was like, 111 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: you know, I came into high school, I was whatever 112 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 3: fourteen or fifteen, I had that size shoe. And then 113 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 3: when I left high school, I was eighteen. I had 114 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 3: sized eighteen shoes. So yeah, it was like wow, every 115 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 3: year I was just growing taller, My knees were hurting, 116 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: you know, I was getting I was skinny. I would 117 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: go through all the like every weird phase you could 118 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,239 Speaker 3: possibly imagine. So that's not really what a calege recruiter 119 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 3: looking at it, like, yeah, this is what we need 120 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: to come to our school. But then yeah, after college 121 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 3: or after high school, everything kind of clicked for me. 122 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: Well, once you got to Boston College, you talk about clicking. 123 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: You became the first true freshman to start on their 124 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: offensive line since like the late nineties, and you helped 125 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: protect Matt Ryan, right, so you've got that great quarterback 126 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: and obviously it ended up being a Colts connection there 127 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: and unfortunately you guys never played together in the NFL 128 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: with the Colts. But did you realize then, like how 129 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: good you were and that you were destined for the 130 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: NFL as a high draft pick, like your freshman year 131 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 2: or early on at Boston. 132 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: Colleg you know, playing on my freshman year. My freshman year, 133 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 3: I was just trying to survive, you know, I was 134 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: so I was so like just singularly focused on football 135 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: and just trying to get you know, because I mean 136 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: I was still very undersized. I was two hundred and 137 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: sixty pounds playing right tackle in the A SEC. And 138 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 3: you know, I definitely I knew that I could hold 139 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: my own and I felt like I was really starting 140 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: to feel confident in my abilities. But still, you know, 141 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 3: I was just trying to go out there each week 142 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: and get my job done. Probably, I would say towards 143 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 3: kind of the end of sophomore year, I was playing 144 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 3: left tackle, and sometimes games started to feel a little 145 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: bit easy for me sometimes, and I'm like, you know, 146 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: maybe I got a shot at this in terms of 147 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 3: like the long term. And then you know, obviously my 148 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 3: coaches started talking to me about it and it started 149 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: to become more of a reality. But you know, I 150 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 3: never really thought about it like as like a major thing. 151 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 3: So like, you know, I was still doing my schooling. 152 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, in case football doesn't work out, 153 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 3: I got something else, you know, I'd get my my 154 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 3: biochemistry degree. That I was that I was working very 155 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: hard for as well, So like it wasn't like, at 156 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: no point was I like, yeah, the NFL is definitely, 157 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 3: you know, I'm that guy. I never really felt like 158 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: I'm that guy. You know. I was just working, trying 159 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 3: to do my job each play, and things kind of 160 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: happened to you know. I guess that was kind of 161 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: the best way to get to where I was. I 162 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: didn't even realize it at the time. 163 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: I mean, how much of a how much of a 164 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: goal though, was it for you? I mean how much 165 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: of a dream was it for you at that time 166 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: to make it to the National Football League? 167 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was definitely. It's been my dream. 168 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: So I was a little kid, and you know, everybody's 169 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: got big, huge dreams, and I guess the idea that 170 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: it that it could become a reality kind of there 171 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: midway through college and starting to realize that, like the 172 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: thing that I've dreamed about since I was a tiny 173 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: kid could become real was was pretty surreal. So you know, 174 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: because of that, you know, I definitely just kind of 175 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 3: kept my nose to grindstone, but it was it was 176 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: definitely a dream come true for sure. 177 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: All right. Then fast forward, take me back to draft night. 178 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: I remember Draft night for you twenty eleven. You're hanging 179 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: out with your family. You end up going to the 180 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: Colts in the first round, but you're at the Italian 181 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: restaurant that your family owns, just out of outside of Chicago. 182 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: At the time, did you think that you were going 183 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: to be drafted by the Colts? I mean, how much 184 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: interaction did you have with them in the pre draft process? 185 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: So not much. Actually, I had just met with scouts. 186 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: I don't think I if I recall, I had never 187 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: met Bill Pollian throughout the entire process. It was just 188 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: kind of like a small little interaction with at the 189 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 3: combine with the scouts, and you know, it wasn't a 190 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 3: place that I'm like, oh, yeah, they're definitely gonna take me. 191 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 3: And then on draft night my agent told me, you know, 192 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: you could go anywhere from eight to twenty two. So 193 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 3: he basically said, you know, if you get to twenty two, 194 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 3: you're not getting past it, and I knew that was 195 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: the Colts. Well, he was lucky that the Colts did 196 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: take me because we would have something, we would have 197 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: had some word speaking. 198 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 2: If I had gone later, you might be finding a 199 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: new agent. 200 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. He was right though. You know, I got 201 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 3: to the Colts and I got the call, and yeah, 202 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 3: that night was a lot of celebration, and it was 203 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 3: it was a lot of fun. 204 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, No, I think I've told you this story before, 205 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: but I was a producer at you know, local radio 206 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: station here in Indianapolis, sports station, and I was tasked. 207 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: I was, you know, trying to you know, I was 208 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: up and coming, and I was tasked with, you know, 209 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: we got to get whoever the Colts draft that night, 210 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: we gotta get it because I think that was the 211 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: first night or the first year that the first round 212 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: was in primetime. And so they said, whoever the Colts 213 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 2: draft that night, we got to get them on on Friday. 214 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: That was my job. So I call the Colts PR department, 215 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: I call the Boston College PR department. And this is 216 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: like at midnight, you know, like on on Thursday. And 217 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: so I'm just sniffing around on Anthony Gastanzo. I do 218 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: a bunch of Google searches on you, and I come 219 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: to find out or I read in a story that 220 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: your family owns the Italian restaurant. So I'm thinking, all right, well, 221 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: if they're going to be anywhere partying and hanging out. 222 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: It's gonna be there. So I I look up the 223 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 2: phone number for a Regano's right, wasn't a reganos yep? 224 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: So like yeah, So I pull up the phone number 225 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: for a Regano's just a shot in the dark. I 226 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: call the number. This is probably like twelve thirty one 227 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning, and I think it was your 228 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: I think it was your dad that picked up the phone. 229 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 2: And I said, I told him who I was, and 230 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: and he was like, well, this is his father. And 231 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: we set up the radio interview for the next day, 232 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 2: and I was a hero within the radio station getting 233 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: you on. So that's that's a huge claim to fame 234 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 2: that I have when it comes to your story and 235 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: your draft. That's right, That's exactly right. So as I said, 236 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: you were born in Hawthorne Woods, Illinois. Again, that's you know, 237 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: thirty five forty miles outside of Chicago. And I remember 238 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 2: your family was consistently at your games, right, I mean, 239 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 2: what did it mean to have your family, I should say, 240 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: come to every game and be able to make those 241 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: trips to Indianapolis growing up in nearby Illinois? What did 242 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 2: that mean? To have them. It's not a pee wee game, 243 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: it's not a college game, but they're they're supporting you 244 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 2: along the way and your journey in the NFL. 245 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 3: Well, you put me, you put me interpressure because my 246 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 3: mom's really sitting in the room with me right now. 247 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 3: She's visiting me right now, so she's in the room 248 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 3: watching me do the interviews. So I got to speak 249 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: extra good about my parents and she's right here. But yeah, 250 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: it's it was. It was awesome. I mean, it was 251 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 3: that consistency, you know, regardless of what happened in the game, 252 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: whether you know, we won the game, whether we lost, 253 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 3: whether I played well, whether I played poorly, whether I 254 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: got injured, whether it didn't, it was a consistency that 255 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: you know, I'd have support regards of how everything went. 256 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: After the game. You know, we'd come back to the house, 257 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: we'd have pizza, and it just kind of put everything 258 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: in perspective in terms of, you know, what's important in 259 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 3: the fact that had my family there supported me. It 260 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: was huge, no. 261 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: Doubt about that. 262 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: All right. 263 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 2: Now, So again, you played, you played big time football 264 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 2: at Boston College, but there's always that learning curve or 265 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 2: that adjustment going from college to the NFL. What were 266 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: some of the biggest adjustments that you had to make 267 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: going from Boston College to the colts. 268 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 3: Well, I had a ten year career, so I had 269 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 3: about a ten year learning curve. I don't think the 270 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: learning curve ever stops in the NFL because guys just 271 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 3: keep on getting more, you know, more impressive physically and 272 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: learning new things. But yeah, when I first came out, 273 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: you know, I my learning curve was about as steep 274 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 3: as it gets because I went into training camp against 275 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 3: Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis, So I mean it nothing 276 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 3: could have possibly helped me more than that because I 277 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: learned real early how to come back after getting beat, 278 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 3: because I got beat a lot in that first traded 279 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: camp and had to And you know, because in college, 280 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 3: when you're a top guy, you're not getting beat a lot, 281 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: whether it's in practice or in games. It just doesn't 282 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 3: really happen. That's why you get selected high. But when 283 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 3: you get into the pros, you know it's going to happen, 284 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: like it happens to everyone. Like, so having that experience 285 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 3: early on in camp where I was going against two 286 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 3: of the best in the game at that time, was 287 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: huge in steepening my learning curve seeing that speed, seeing 288 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 3: such polished moves. You know, I had never seen a 289 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: spin move like like Dwight could do. I hadn't seen 290 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: a get off and you know, around the edge like 291 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: Rob could do. I hadn't seen you know, I had 292 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 3: seen those moves, but I hadn't seen them that crisp 293 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 3: and that quick. So it was just you know, that 294 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 3: extra little speed, that extra little technique that that you 295 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 3: had to you had to play with. It was just 296 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 3: kind of I refer to it as a tightening of 297 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 3: the screws. It was like I was playing the same game. 298 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 3: I was just playing it. I had to play it 299 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 3: a little bit crisper, a little bit more precise. 300 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: Well, what did that do for your confidence? I mean, 301 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: how much of that was an ongoing battle for you 302 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: early on as a rookie with the Colts just mentally 303 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 2: getting through that as as those guys are winning some 304 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: of those one on one battles against you. 305 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: Well, it was it was you know, honestly, it was 306 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: not great for consience. But it's it's weird. It's kind 307 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 3: of like a it's kind of like an ebb and 308 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 3: flow because it's like, Okay, my confidence. You know, I'm 309 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 3: getting my butt kicked by Dwight in practice. Okay, so 310 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: my confidence is at a very low and then I 311 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: go to the game and I'm like, oh, this guy 312 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: is way slower and not as good of a pass 313 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 3: rusher as Dwight Freemie is, So my confidence go up. 314 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: You know. 315 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 3: It's just kind of like an it's a constant managing. 316 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 3: You just can't get too high or can't get too low. 317 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 3: It's kind of the idea through I mean, that's kind 318 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 3: of what I what I had to do throughout my 319 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: entire career. It's like, you know, if you're having a 320 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: good streak where you're playing really well, you can't be 321 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 3: like going on top of the world because then somebody's 322 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 3: going to make you crash down. And if you get 323 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: beat a couple of times, you can't get down into 324 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: the valley where it's like, oh, I'm the worst player 325 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: who ever played the game, because then it's that much 326 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: harder to dig yourself out. So it's just a constant 327 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 3: battle throughout, you know, And it was a constant battle 328 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: throughout my entire career to kind of keep on that 329 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 3: midline of you know, just keep working, just keep working well. 330 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: Like I said you, you started right away early on 331 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: as a rookie. That entire rookie season, you were the 332 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: guy at left tackle, and you always hear about you know, 333 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: for for rookies, things are happening one hundred miles an 334 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: hour coming from college to the NFL, going along with 335 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: with everything that you just said, was there a time 336 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: where you started to feel comfortable or you know, when 337 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: things kind of slowed down a little bit for you 338 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: during your rookie season. 339 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: You know it, it's a shame because my rookie season, 340 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: probably around Game three, I started to feel pretty good, 341 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: and then in Game four against Tampa Bay Buccaneers, I 342 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 3: destroyed my left ankle and so I was out for 343 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: four games with that ankle injury, and it was it 344 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 3: was a real shame because I had really started to 345 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: feel comfortable and then I did that came back from 346 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: the ankle injury. I think it was Game eight, and 347 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: it was an injury that was bad and I knew 348 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 3: I was gonna get surgery on it at the end 349 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 3: of the season. But it also couldn't get any worse 350 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 3: because I had a ligament that was completely torn or 351 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: attendant that was completely torn, so like you can't tear 352 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: it more than it's already torn. So we basically cast 353 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 3: it up my ankle and I played the rest of 354 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: the season on a you know, basically cast it ankle. 355 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: It wasn't like a true cast, but I mean for 356 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: every game and every practice, we would basically tape it up, 357 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 3: so we would put a brace on it and then 358 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: tape it and it was basically a cast. So it 359 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 3: was just kind of fighting to get through the rest 360 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: of that rookie season. Then I did my surgery in 361 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: the off season, did a lot of rehab, and then 362 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: the second season there were some games that I started to, 363 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 3: you know, really feel and feel more confident and start 364 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: to feel better. But you know, I would say, not 365 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: really until my third season did I really feel like, Okay, 366 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: I'm in a bit of a groove and I can 367 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 3: I can get going here, right, no. 368 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: Doubt about that. It's incredibly tough. I mean, ninety nine 369 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: point nine percent of the audience listening to this me 370 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: included Anthony, we will never understand what it's like to 371 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: play left tackle in the NFL. It's such a tough job. Often, 372 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: as you know, it's a thankless job. I mean, you 373 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: do your job ninety nine times out of one hundred, 374 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: but everybody's talking about the one time where something leaks through. 375 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: So with that of mine, who was the toughest defensive 376 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: end you ever had to face in a game? You 377 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: talked about Robert and Dwight in practice, but in a game, 378 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: who was the toughest guy to go up against? 379 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 3: You Know, it's funny when when you ask I bet, 380 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 3: if you ask a bunch of line in that, it's 381 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 3: like guys have there are it's matchup problems. So like 382 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: you'll get everyone's while you'll get the guys like Dwight 383 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 3: who probably most guys who play against him say that's 384 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: a tough skuy they played again, but a lot of 385 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: things with tackles, it's like, who matches up really well 386 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: against my skill set that their skill set is you 387 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: know it is good against that. And I would say 388 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 3: for me, there are two guys who come to mind 389 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: that that I struggled with. Actually they're probably yeah, we'll 390 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 3: say two guys that I say would be on my list, 391 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 3: and that James Harrison had. You know, with him being 392 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: as short as he was, he had a rit move 393 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 3: because like everything's about James Harrison and his power and 394 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 3: his bowl rush. But he would just use that to 395 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: set up this rit move that he would do where 396 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 3: he would try to get you to lean and he 397 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 3: would essentially latch onto your left arm and pull it 398 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 3: down and he could get around the edge. And he 399 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 3: beat me with that a few times. And it was 400 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 3: a very difficult move for me, being as tall as 401 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 3: I was, Yeah, to bend to bend down and to 402 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: use my legs and my leverage resident trying to just 403 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: keep him at a distance. So yeah, James Harrison was 404 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: very difficult. And then another guy who just had an 405 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 3: arsenal of polished moves that could he could go speed, 406 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 3: power in out is Robert Quinn and he's still playing 407 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 3: at a high level. So mm hmm. You know, I 408 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 3: would say those are the two guys that really stick 409 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 3: out in my career, as you know, guys that I 410 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 3: had to game plan a little extra hard for. I 411 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 3: had to think about a little bit more when I 412 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 3: was out on the field. 413 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: All right, let's go, this is an odd ball question. 414 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: What was more? What was more nerve wracking? Let's let's 415 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 2: use the phrase nerve wracking. Facing James Harrison, Robert Quinn 416 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: or going out for a pass in the end zone 417 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: against the Patriots and catching that touchdown pass. What was more? 418 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 2: Gave you more jitters? 419 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 3: That's the easiest question you possibly could have asked, and 420 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 3: that is playing playing left tackle against those guys, because 421 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 3: never in my career was I'm more confident than that. 422 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 3: I'm that play where Reggie Wayne came into the huddle, 423 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: he literally came into the huddle, looked at me and said, 424 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 3: don't screw this up. And I'm like what, And I'm 425 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 3: thinking like, oh, they're gonna put me on an island 426 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 3: one on one again somebody out here. And then they 427 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: called the play for me to catch the path yes, 428 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, I'm about to score a touchdown. 429 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 3: Not a single moment of any doubt went through my 430 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 3: head because throughout my I mean throughout my life from 431 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 3: when I was five years old to now, there's nothing 432 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 3: that I've been more confident in in my abilities than 433 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: catching a football. And that includes past setting, that includes block. 434 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, because you're just an athlete. 435 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: There is nothing I am more confident and then catching 436 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 3: a football. So he when they call that play, I'm like, 437 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 3: I'm about to score a touchdown on Sunday night football. 438 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 3: Let's do this and I did. 439 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: That's right. 440 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 3: It was pretty amazing. 441 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: That's right. It was Sunday night football. You're exactly right. 442 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 2: It was primetime against the New England Patriots on November sixteenth, 443 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 2: two thousand and four or twenty fourteen. I should say, 444 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 2: but you already knew that. I'm sure you've got that 445 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 2: date earmarked in history. 446 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: Definitely. I knew that because my claim the same throughout 447 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 3: my career as the fact that on that play, Reggie 448 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 3: Wayne was used as a distraction so that I could 449 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: get open. He was supposed to pull the corner in 450 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 3: so that I was open. I'm out on in the 451 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: flat to catch that touchdown. My only big issue is 452 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 3: that we didn't call it again. I mean I was 453 00:19:58,480 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 3: so wide open. 454 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 2: Later in the season, Yeah, now do you remember, I mean, 455 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 2: what was going through your brain? Like the Andrew Locke. 456 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 2: You know that ball's coming to you, it's in flight, 457 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 2: you see the spiral come in your way, Like, What's 458 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: what's going through your mind as the pass is coming 459 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: to you. 460 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 3: I can't wait to celebrate? 461 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 2: And you did? Well? 462 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the great. That's what I'm talking about Like 463 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 3: it's the feeling that I had in that moment of 464 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 3: like I am supremely confident in this, like not an 465 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 3: ounce of doubt going through my mind, Like I just 466 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: can't wait to celebrate. I'm like, man, this is what 467 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 3: wide receivers get to feel all the time. What the heck? 468 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 3: You're right, employ a tackle, just trying to grind and block, 469 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 3: guys having the time of having the time of their 470 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 3: lives catching touchdown passes and. 471 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 2: The celebration right was it? Was it Mortal Combat or 472 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: was it street Fighter? 473 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 3: Street Fighter? 474 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and what was what was the motivation there? 475 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 3: So it was it was the Dull Seam celebration. So 476 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: when my brother and I used to play a street Fighter, 477 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 3: I would play Dull Seam with Dulciam, who is the 478 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 3: cheapest character in the game, like you can just stand 479 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 3: at the other side of the thing. My brother would 480 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 3: get so mad, and for whatever reason, when he would 481 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 3: get so mad, I just thought it was that much 482 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 3: funnier when Dulcine would do his stupid celebration at the end. 483 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: So I guess it through that it became my favorite celebration. 484 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 3: So I'm like, that's why that's how I'm going to 485 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 3: celebrate when a touchdown, and I did. 486 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: It's funny. I wasn't as much into that game as 487 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: you were, obviously, but I mean I did recognize the 488 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 2: dance or the emotions you know, that you were doing. 489 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: I was like, I think that's from a street Fighter game. 490 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 2: But I have that that was the extent of it. 491 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: Let's stay there. I mean this is going way back. 492 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: I mean, how much did you enjoy Because I know 493 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 2: you're into technology. I know that you're you know, you 494 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 2: like computer games. Have you always you know, been a gamer, 495 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: you know, so to speak? Growing up? 496 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I mean I mean from Nintendo, I mean 497 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 3: tech I remember Techno Bowl. It was crazy with Techno 498 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 3: Bowl on Nintendo. You couldn't actually save your game, but 499 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 3: it would give you like a code as your like 500 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 3: every game that you would beat throughout the season, it'll 501 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: give you like a code at the bottom right. The 502 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 3: next time you came in, you could plug that code 503 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 3: in continue on where your season was. So playing games 504 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 3: even when he when he couldn't save it on Nintendo, 505 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 3: then Sega and then I was always a PlayStation guy. 506 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 3: So I went PlayStation, PlayStation two, PlayStation three, and I've 507 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 3: actually I'm actually looking at a PlayStation five in front 508 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 3: of me. 509 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: I had a boy boy. 510 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 3: All right. 511 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 2: Lastly, about that play, do you remember the play call? Like, 512 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: what was the name of that play? If you can 513 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 2: share it. 514 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 3: Do you remember Jack? Jack AC pass is what we 515 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 3: called it. I don't. I don't know why it was Jack, 516 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 3: but I know that AC pass meant Anthony Stanzo pass 517 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: about to catch, catch, touchdown. So yeah, I definitely remember 518 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 3: the name of it, no doubt. 519 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: So you're one. 520 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: You're prost to Andrew two for giving me a really 521 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 3: catchable ball. He didn't. He didn't whip that thing in there. 522 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 2: Yeah no, Yeah, that was that was put so anybody 523 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 2: could handle it. Not that you couldn't handle a normal pass, 524 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 2: but yeah, that was that definitely had some touch on it. 525 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 2: All right. As as I said earlier, you know that 526 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 2: the Colts were just a different team when you were 527 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 2: out there compared to when you weren't Anthony. I mean, 528 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: your last season was case in point. If you go 529 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 2: back to twenty twenty, you played in eleven games. The 530 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: Colts were nine and two and averaged almost thirty points 531 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 2: per game when you were out there. Without you on 532 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: the field that season in four games, the Colts were 533 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: just one in three. So I know you're a humble guy, 534 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 2: but I mean, do you realize how important you were? 535 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: And does it bother you that you never got those 536 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl nods and things like that? I mean, does 537 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 2: that matter to you? 538 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: You know? 539 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 3: Honestly no, I think it matters more to my day 540 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 3: than does to me because they'll they'll be like, you 541 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 3: know that would be sure to say that. But for me, 542 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 3: I felt like the players on the team, the guys 543 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 3: that were relying on me, knew the preparation that I 544 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: put in, They knew how much I cared, and they 545 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 3: knew that I was gonna get the job done. For me, 546 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: That's what mattered. You know, the organization valued me. They 547 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 3: showed me how much they've valued me, and I appreciated that. 548 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 3: So you know, I I only controlled what I can control, 549 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: which was I went out there and tried to do 550 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 3: my best every every play, and how people were going 551 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 3: to see it was up to them. So yeah, it 552 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 3: doesn't really bother me. I'm I'm I'm happy with where 553 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 3: I am. I'm happy with my career. 554 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 2: And during your career, you played with eleven different starting 555 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 2: quarterbacks from twenty eleven to twenty twenty. I'm not going 556 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: to ask you all of them, but how tough was that? 557 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: I mean, you had injuries, you had retirements, roster turnover, 558 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 2: free agency, that all kind of played a part in that. 559 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: How tough was it for you to play left tackle 560 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: with all those different quarterbacks so often, especially towards the 561 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: end of your career, You know. 562 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 3: It just becomes it was like just pulling out different 563 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 3: tools in my toolkit kind of because the different quarterbacks 564 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 3: played differently, and you had to block differently for different guys, 565 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 3: like right, like Andrew would like to well, earlier in 566 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 3: Andrew's career, he'd like to escape kind of out to 567 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: the left of the way that you see like Russell 568 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,239 Speaker 3: Wilson do when he does like the kind of the 569 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 3: spin and runs out to the left. Andrew used to 570 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 3: do that a lot, So I knew that if my 571 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 3: guy went inside, I could just wash him across Andrew's face. 572 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 3: And he liked to get out to the left and 573 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 3: make plays with his legs and stuff like that, whereas 574 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 3: a guy like Philip Rivers like to stand right in 575 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 3: the middle of the pocket. And I knew as long 576 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 3: as I did anything but let my guy get inside, 577 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 3: like I could kind of run him by on a 578 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 3: short edge. And Philip was good because he was gonna 579 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 3: be he was going to drop back and step up 580 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 3: in the pocket and throw from in the pocket. So 581 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 3: that those are two extreme examples, but just kind of 582 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 3: show him the difference between quarterbacks. You have to really 583 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 3: because I mean at tackle, to think that I'm just 584 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 3: going to set out there and stonewall a guy every 585 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 3: play is not a realistic expectation. So kind of luring 586 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 3: guys and taking them where you want them to go 587 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 3: is a is a really important part of the game 588 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 3: and you have to understand your quarterback in order to 589 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 3: do that. So consistency at quarterback was huge when when 590 00:25:58,880 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 3: we were able to get. 591 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: It, no doubt about that. And as we said earlier, 592 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: I mean as a rookie, you come in, you start 593 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: right away. Now that you're no longer on the team, 594 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: the Colts are looking for a stability at left tackle. 595 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: They may have found that with Bernard Ryman, I was 596 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: going into a second year. I mean, if if you 597 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 2: had a chance to talk with a young offensive lineman 598 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 2: and give that guy some advice going into training camp, 599 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: what would you say to a young left tackle trying 600 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: to make his way and carve out a ten year 601 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: career like you did with the Colts. 602 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 3: Well, I actually got that opportunity. I spoke with Bernard 603 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 3: last year even better, and I could say that I 604 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 3: was extremely impressed with when when we talked in about 605 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 3: some various technique things, he immediately implement them, implemented them 606 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 3: and I could see him in the game and he 607 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 3: improved greatly. So he just that coachability in the fact 608 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 3: that he kind of knows the game. I think that 609 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 3: Bernard would be really good. I thought towards the end 610 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 3: of the season he started to look really good. 611 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: Right. 612 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 3: He definitely had some issues early on, but fixed a 613 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 3: lot of the things that he was having issues with. 614 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 3: And to see that that early in a career is 615 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 3: really good. But what to say to him. The biggest 616 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 3: thing is kind of what I was just talking about, 617 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: is don't expect to stonewall a guy ever play, because 618 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 3: that's that's how I left tackle. The number one thing 619 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: that you can't do is get beat early, because if 620 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 3: you get beat early, that guy's going to have a 621 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 3: running start of your quarterback and he's going to destroy him, 622 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 3: and that's when quarterbacks get hurt. That's when fumble sack, 623 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 3: fumble's return for touchdown, that kind of stuff happens. So basically, 624 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 3: it's the you know, talking to a young tackle is 625 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 3: just kind of maintain that width of the pocket. You 626 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 3: don't have to go out and get a guy, you 627 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 3: don't have to get him early, you don't have to 628 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 3: try to initiate the contact. It's have confidence in your strength. 629 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 3: That's the biggest thing is off season, get strong, get 630 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 3: you know, flexible, so that you can have confidence in 631 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 3: your strength so that if a guy bull rushes you, 632 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,120 Speaker 3: you know you can anchor because if you if you 633 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 3: play for the bull rush, which a lot of people 634 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 3: do in college, but if you play for the bull rush, 635 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 3: you're gonna get beat every which way. So it's that 636 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 3: that patience is the is the key. Patience and confidence 637 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 3: in your own strength is kind of the key for 638 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 3: a young guy just starting out to try to feel 639 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 3: the game in the NFL. 640 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 2: For you, you know, going back to your off seasons 641 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: in the NFL, like if you're not rehabbing an injury 642 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 2: as an offensive lineman, were there specific things you worked 643 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 2: on in the off season to get ready for the 644 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: upcoming seasons. I mean, after a while, you got so good, 645 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: And how tough was it to find, you know, subtle 646 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: nuances to get better at each and every year going 647 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: into the upcoming seasons. 648 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 3: Oh, I mean it it was. It was actually pretty 649 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: easy to find. It was, you know, it's I would 650 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 3: essentially create a goal at the beginning of every off season, 651 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 3: like this is the number one thing that I want 652 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 3: to improve on. And you know, for me, football was 653 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 3: a three hundred and sixty five days a year, twenty 654 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 3: four to seven job I was getting. You know, I 655 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 3: wanted to make sure that I got my eight hours 656 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 3: just every night, I got my meals, I got everything. 657 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: And it's it's a it's a life. It's truly a lifestyle. 658 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 3: But finding those things, finding those things that to kind 659 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 3: of work on is it's it's essentially scouting yourself. So 660 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 3: whenever I would watch film, it would be so much 661 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 3: less about who I was going into so much more 662 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 3: about what am what am I seeing from myself because 663 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 3: I'm seeing the same thing that they are. So I 664 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 3: would pick out my weaknesses and I would try to 665 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 3: even weak to week work on things in the weight 666 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 3: room or work on things that could try to, you know, 667 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 3: cover up those weaknesses or make them my strengths. And 668 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 3: then in the off season just kind of take that 669 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 3: to the nth degree and just essentially watch film myself. 670 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: And I mean even in the weight room, I would 671 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 3: film myself and I still do to this day, just 672 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 3: to see how my body moves and to see, you know, 673 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 3: where those weaknesses are that you know, you can shore 674 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 3: up a little things because moving efficiently, because everybody's strong 675 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 3: in the NFL. Everybody's strong, everybody's fast. But being able 676 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 3: to access that strength and move efficiently is so key 677 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 3: to being able to When people talk about the games 678 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 3: slowing down, it's because they don't have to think about 679 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 3: how their body moves. It's that they can literally just 680 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 3: watch what's happening in front of them and their body 681 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 3: moved the way that they wanted to. And that's that's 682 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 3: the ultimate goal. 683 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 2: In the NFL. It's it's a business man. It can 684 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: be cruel. Not many guys get the chance to retire 685 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: after playing for just one team. How much does that 686 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 2: matter to you? You played ten seasons with the Colts 687 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 2: after they drafted you in the first round. What kind 688 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 2: of place do the Colts have in your heart and 689 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 2: in your life from here on out. 690 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's massive, you know, it's it's like 691 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 3: that's the goal. I mean, when you get drafted, you 692 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 3: you want to prove to that organization that drafts you 693 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: that they did it for a reason and that and 694 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 3: then they want to keep you around. And you know, 695 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 3: I was lucky enough to get drafted to an organization 696 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 3: that just fit me perfectly. And it was, you know, 697 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 3: one they cared about character and you know, people who 698 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: worked hard and did everything they could to help the 699 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 3: team win. And that's what the culture ultimately about winning 700 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 3: and the ultimately about people, and it's a it was 701 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 3: just a great combination for me. I mean, I don't 702 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 3: think that there could have been a better fit. I 703 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 3: don't know if my career would have been as successful 704 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 3: as it was in any other place. So it was 705 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 3: just kind of one of those things that just worked 706 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 3: out perfectly, and I'm extremely grateful for it. 707 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about it. I Mean we feel the 708 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: same way. Getting to know you a little bit and 709 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: you know, getting to understand your personality and with that 710 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 2: when you were here, I know that you loved food. 711 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: I mean I know you love making dinners and trying 712 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: out new recipes. I know you love movies. We talked 713 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: about that when you were here. I know you love 714 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: video games and technology like we talked about. But with that, 715 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: I got to ask you about this phase that you 716 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: were in. I think it was like twenty sixteen, and 717 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 2: I have it, I have it on good authority. During 718 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 2: training camp that season, you fell in love with Pokemon 719 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: Go and crazy the craze that was Pokemon Go. 720 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 3: Okayn King the Dark, that's a dark home and a. 721 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 2: So I may or may not have talked to one 722 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: of your former teammates about this. The story goes that 723 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: maybe you entice some interns to drive you around the 724 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: campus of Anderson University during training camp to find these 725 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 2: these digital pokemons. Uh, when the fat when the fad 726 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 2: was going on? Do you care to elaborate on this? 727 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 3: Well, my obsessive personality were I obsessed over football for 728 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 3: a very long time, curious over into a thing occasionally, 729 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 3: and uh, Pokemon Go happened to be one of those things. 730 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 3: And that was that was a year where you know, 731 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 3: if I had a free moment, I was trying to 732 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 3: catch I was trying to catch them all. You know, 733 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 3: I was it is the ultimate goal and uh yeah, 734 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 3: driving around training camp and we had free free time. 735 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 3: It was it was driving around a little bit and 736 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 3: there were some there were some rare ones on campus 737 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 3: over there at Anderson, so we had to get them. 738 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 3: But uh but yeah, that was I I legitimately had 739 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 3: to delete that app from my phone and essentially quick 740 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 3: cold turkey. It was like it was like witting an addiction. 741 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 3: It was. It was pretty intense. So I'm glad that 742 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 3: I'm over that that aspect of my life. 743 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: What was what was the weirdest place on campus where 744 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: one of these pokemons was was hiding? 745 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 3: Uh so, you know the spot that was always that 746 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 3: we always had good ones, if I do recall, was 747 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 3: right behind the meeting room, so like a night behind 748 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 3: the like right where we would meet with a kind 749 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 3: of in the corner of campus and right behind U 750 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 3: there was always something rare hanging out. So you'd get 751 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 3: like five or six cash from the team back there 752 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 3: just getting after him. 753 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, you're you're a huge You're. 754 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 3: You had to bring up the darkest point of my career. 755 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 2: Well, you can thank Joe Wrights for that. I talked 756 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: to him the other day. I said, I'm talking with 757 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 2: Ac and he goes, oh, you got to bring up 758 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 2: Pokemon Go in twenty sixteen. 759 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 3: Goodness curacious. Yeah that is that is hilarious. I'll have 760 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 3: to get Joe for that one. 761 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta, you gotta pay him back on that 762 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: bad boy. Yeah. Well, I appreciate you playing along with that, 763 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: but I think it illustrates just kind of like what 764 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,479 Speaker 2: a what a huge kid at heart you are. I mean, 765 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 2: you love hanging out with your friends. You always give back. 766 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 2: I mean I remember the Riley Christmas Caroling and the 767 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 2: twenty five Days of the Baritone Christmas back in the day. 768 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 2: That was always fun. Have you always been kind of 769 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 2: a fun loving guy? I mean, how important is that 770 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 2: for you to kind of stay the way that you are, 771 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 2: be grounded in your personality and just you know, be 772 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 2: kind of humble and easy going in the way that 773 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 2: you live life. 774 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's extremely important. I mean think it 775 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 3: kind of comes from the values that were kind of 776 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 3: instilled in me by my family and the fact that 777 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 3: I'm a youngest brother. I mean I'm the youngest of 778 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 3: four and I'd say probably the biggest part of my 779 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 3: personality that I'm a younger. I'm a youngest brother, so 780 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 3: like you know, I'm just that's just what I am. 781 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 3: I'm a little kid at heart, and I was fortunate 782 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 3: enough to be able to play football as my career, 783 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 3: so I never really had to really grow up. So yeah, 784 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 3: I understand what a blessing that is. I and I'm 785 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 3: not going to grow up and you can't make me. 786 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 2: We would never do that to your brother. We would 787 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 2: never do that to you. We like you just the 788 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: way you are. Lastly, to close out, I'm kind of 789 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: putting you on the spot. I apologize, But ten seasons 790 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: with the Colts, AC, I mean, do you have any 791 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: special moments or what what's your favorite Colts moment, whether 792 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 2: that was personally or team wise through a decade putting 793 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 2: on that horseshoe helmet, you. 794 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 3: Know, I shoot, I mean it's there's a lot of them, 795 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 3: you know. I when I think about it, it's just 796 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 3: kind of the A lot of it is not on 797 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 3: the field stuff. It's the relationships that you know, I've 798 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 3: built with guys, kind of the hugs after games, the 799 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 3: you know, the the good locker room moments, the you know, 800 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 3: even just like the parties after after big wins. You know, 801 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 3: Andrew would have us over to his place and we'd 802 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 3: you know, we'd celebrate big wins. Those are the things 803 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 3: that really stick out to me because football, you know, 804 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 3: on the field, football is football. You know, you're out there, 805 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 3: it's it's kind of a very in the moment sort 806 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 3: of a thing where you're just every play trying to 807 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 3: get your job done. But it's when you're off the 808 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 3: field and you're just kind of hanging out with the 809 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 3: guys where you can really kind of let yourself, you know, 810 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 3: experience and make memories. You know. That's those are the 811 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 3: things that really stick out to me. So you know, 812 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 3: I mean some of my closest friends are still the 813 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 3: guys that I played with, and I think that's a 814 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 3: really special thing that you don't get it everywhere. So yeah, 815 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,439 Speaker 3: that's one of the beautiful things about football is the relationships. 816 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,439 Speaker 2: Going back to what we talked about the top, I mean, 817 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 2: it's only been two seasons since you retired. I mean, 818 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 2: does it does it feel like you've been out of 819 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 2: the game for a while. 820 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yes, it does. You know, it definitely 821 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 3: feels like I mean, I it's funny I kind of 822 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 3: just when people ask me, you know, like what's your 823 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 3: what's your life kind of look like I essentially say, 824 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 3: I live my life in a perpetual offseason, whereas I'm 825 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 3: still trying to improve myself both physically and you know, 826 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 3: just throughout my life. I'm just trying to improve things. 827 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 3: It's not even though there isn't a season on the cuff, 828 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 3: it's like I'm constantly getting ready. I'm just it's it's nice. 829 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 2: It's a great way to live life. It's all about 830 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 2: perspective and you have it. Anthony Costanzo twenty eleven to 831 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 2: twenty twenty with the Indianapolis Colts. I know you've got 832 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 2: a ton going on. I know you're still busy despite retirement. 833 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 2: So can't thank you enough for your time today. Anytime 834 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 2: you want to tell some old stories or get Joe 835 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 2: Wright's back on the air, I'm up for that too. 836 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 2: We can do that. I can set that up. So 837 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 2: anytime you want to talk, Paul, we love to have 838 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 2: you continued success and enjoy the rest of your summer 839 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 2: coming up. AC. Can't thank you enough. 840 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 3: Appreciate it. Matt