Speaker 1: I Am all In. I Am all In with Scott
Speaker 1: Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Hey everybody, Scott Patterson
Speaker 1: and this is the I Am All In Podcast with
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and one eleven Productions. And I am
Speaker 1: joined by my ball club here in my team, Amy Sugarman,
Speaker 1: Danielle Romo, Riley Prius, Priests Price Priceless, Riley Priceless, Riley
Speaker 1: Price Delicious. You know, I feel bad because after Milo
Speaker 1: and Isaac, people are stuck back with us again. So
Speaker 1: it's like we feel a little bad about what. I
Speaker 1: don't feel bad. I think they. I think there are
Speaker 1: four combined personalities make up two of theirs. I think
Speaker 1: I think the math works out for us somewhat. People
Speaker 1: shaking their heads all over the world because we read
Speaker 1: the reviews and so when we read the reviews, we
Speaker 1: know the truth. No, I you know what, I I
Speaker 1: stopped reading them. Sometimes they're very painful because we're just
Speaker 1: you're trying to love a love a show. It's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the personal invective, I feel is unnecessary, but I think
Speaker 1: it's character building. Yeah, it does make you stronger. Ry
Speaker 1: you cry the first you know a hundred and then
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I don't have any tears left, character
Speaker 1: character building experiences. They're taking me down a bunch of notches.
Speaker 1: And I just was like, what, I'm reading your guys,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, God, I hope that doesn't happened to me.
Speaker 1: And then I'll read one that's happening to me. Now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they are, you know, they come after anybody doesn't. But
Speaker 1: we love them. We love them all and we're trying
Speaker 1: to do what they say. I will say that we
Speaker 1: read the reviews and we go, okay, good note. We're
Speaker 1: going to try that, we're taking We're good about that.
Speaker 1: We we implement a lot of the ideas coming from
Speaker 1: these very personal missives, shall we Communications well, Emily and Wonderland.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear your thoughts because I have
Speaker 1: a lot Emily and Wonderland. You know, it just it
Speaker 1: just really hit me how desperate Emily is to have
Speaker 1: a great relationship. She's got all this stored up love
Speaker 1: and and and and wants to shower Rory with it
Speaker 1: and all the love and excitement that she could not
Speaker 1: shower on Lauraa because Laura I left and it was
Speaker 1: just she's been waiting for so long and now she
Speaker 1: has her chance. And you know, I was discussing this
Speaker 1: with my wife. I said, you know, Emily is just
Speaker 1: she was devastated when they walked into the shed. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I mean that was a very very powerful moment
Speaker 1: of the entire series so far. And m and made
Speaker 1: Rory a room and called her and asked her what
Speaker 1: she loved the most, what colors and what band and
Speaker 1: you know what flowers your favorite? Made her this beautiful room,
Speaker 1: and and you know, I guess Laurela I didn't really
Speaker 1: have much of a problem with it a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, she was a little taken aback, right, and
Speaker 1: you can can't not expect that, right, Um but I
Speaker 1: think I think Emily was justified. And from her point
Speaker 1: of view, like did you really hate us that much? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Where you know, you you denied yourself a relationship with
Speaker 1: us to live in a shed with you know, was
Speaker 1: with shovels, leaning up against the wall with your baby
Speaker 1: daughter and feeding ducks. And I mean, like what, I
Speaker 1: don't blame her, but um, so I was having this
Speaker 1: conversation with my wife and she she explained that you know,
Speaker 1: the mother daughter dynamic is fucking be far more overbearing
Speaker 1: than you know, the obviously the grandmother granddaughter dynamic. So
Speaker 1: there's a lot of pressure for I guess the young
Speaker 1: Laurel I to become like Emily. I think Emily wanted
Speaker 1: her be like her, and there was just this overbearing,
Speaker 1: her overbearing nature to keep the family dynasty going and
Speaker 1: to keep the traditions going. And it was you know,
Speaker 1: everything is very at a at a a certain level,
Speaker 1: very superficial, and appearances must be kept up. And and
Speaker 1: this is just how it has to go. This is
Speaker 1: how it Gilmore behaves, This is how it Gilmore speaks,
Speaker 1: this is how it Gilmore. Uh you know, this is
Speaker 1: how it Gilmore lives. And uh, Laurel I just was
Speaker 1: not down for it. And the more pressure you put
Speaker 1: on her, the more she's going to go away. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, it's you know the Paris
Speaker 1: Hilton story, right, It's like it's like, well, if you
Speaker 1: my I don't know about that. My wife informed me about.
Speaker 1: She made a comparison. She did, she did, she made
Speaker 1: a comparison. Yeah. I I felt like Emily was justified
Speaker 1: in the way she felt. It's the way she expresses
Speaker 1: it that comes across very harsh. And I think then
Speaker 1: it really pushes Lorala away because if Emily would approach
Speaker 1: it differently and say, it broke my heart to see
Speaker 1: that when we would have been here for you, why
Speaker 1: did that happen the way it did? And what was
Speaker 1: interesting is Rory brings it up later when they're walking
Speaker 1: after they left, and said, do you think the two
Speaker 1: of you will ever really communicate about it? Noope? Yeah,
Speaker 1: she said, no interesting, no way. And and you know
Speaker 1: who would sit there and tolerate the And here's another
Speaker 1: interesting thing that came up. And it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: during the opening scene, the dinner scene, Hey, you know,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't find two additional chairs. I'm to two
Speaker 1: chairs short of a set. And laurealizes also, and I
Speaker 1: realized that, you know, the only the only reason Emily
Speaker 1: is taking this is to be with her granddaughter. She's
Speaker 1: tolerating all of that, all of those, all the sarcasm
Speaker 1: and all the hatred and all the insults. Um, she's
Speaker 1: just and Laurel I probably feels like she's just giving
Speaker 1: it back to her mom when her mom gave her.
Speaker 1: You make a great point, but it's not how anybody
Speaker 1: in the real world would ever interact with their family.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't happen all of every And this is why
Speaker 1: I think I think Laurel is one of the more
Speaker 1: interesting characters in the history of television because it's all
Speaker 1: subtext that's being expressed. M this is all the stuff
Speaker 1: that nobody ever said, but now she says, she's saying it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Rory and Richard don't communicate the way Emily and Laura
Speaker 1: la I do. They come much from a more reserved
Speaker 1: way and with more kindness. Laura and Emily just have
Speaker 1: this stabby snarkiness when they go at it justified, but
Speaker 1: it's me, but it's also Laura. La also extends this
Speaker 1: to all other characters in the drama. I mean she's
Speaker 1: sub textual. She verbalizes subtext with me. She does it
Speaker 1: with Rachel, all those quippy little jokes with Rachel, she
Speaker 1: does it with everyone, and especially with Luke. It's comes
Speaker 1: from a place of more love and kindness. But even
Speaker 1: the jokes when you come when she's in the apartment.
Speaker 1: And then the scene which will will discuss all this.
Speaker 1: But the scene in the stock room was really cool, right,
Speaker 1: I do have great scene, great scene, but but so
Speaker 1: but you know, for me, its like it makes me
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, Amy is writing. The writing is
Speaker 1: influenced by her father because it feels like stick you know,
Speaker 1: not in a negative sense, but it feels like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a lead character obviously. You know. Laureli
Speaker 1: is what Amy maybe wishes she was or a version
Speaker 1: of herself. Um that it physically looks like this and
Speaker 1: verbalizes all this sort of like kind of sticky comedian stuff.
Speaker 1: Her dad was a I don't know if her dad
Speaker 1: was a huge I don't know if her dad was
Speaker 1: a huge comedian, but he was in that circle of
Speaker 1: all those big comedians. So that's what she grew up.
Speaker 1: But but I like it. I do too. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's very funny and fast and fast and funny. I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan of fast and funny. But it's interesting.
Speaker 1: So that's why people like watching this shows because it's
Speaker 1: all the because it's all the things that they want
Speaker 1: to say that nobody in the real world would ever say,
Speaker 1: and you miss things so when you're that's like you know,
Speaker 1: Isaac even talked about it that he would just watch
Speaker 1: it through and watch it through again. It's that kind
Speaker 1: of show because you you no matter what you missed stuff,
Speaker 1: so when you're watching again, it's like fresh content. So
Speaker 1: you're just like, oh my god. And it's so dense
Speaker 1: and so fast that there's no way the human brain
Speaker 1: could like even retain it all. So you're just getting
Speaker 1: fresh episodes each time you go around the loop of
Speaker 1: the whole series. Very interesting device, very very interesting way
Speaker 1: to approach you. Television really is very clever. If there's
Speaker 1: so much ping pong thing between Luke and Lora La,
Speaker 1: and it is so fast, and it is so there's
Speaker 1: so many callbacks too, even with the curtains. You know
Speaker 1: they're up in the apartment and there's the reference to
Speaker 1: the curtains, and then of course we get the call back.
Speaker 1: And that's why you're just like, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: show is so clever and you love it because you're
Speaker 1: just like, yep, the curtains, you know, like it's just
Speaker 1: and I mean even when Rachel says, did you tell
Speaker 1: me about the Hot Fashion show? Like, it was just
Speaker 1: like and there's so much and it's so fast, it's
Speaker 1: all but yeah, but it's all stick. It's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh those those photographs of Luke and I are are you?
Speaker 1: And lucre In the bathroom and Laura, I so don't
Speaker 1: want to know why. You know, it's always something. It's
Speaker 1: like bam, bam bam, which is why when you get
Speaker 1: those scenes where the stick is gone, they're that much
Speaker 1: more powerful because you're like, and that's why you just
Speaker 1: get this lump in your boat and this hurt in
Speaker 1: your chest because you're like, oh god, it's just not real.
Speaker 1: Just got real, and it gets so real, and it's
Speaker 1: just very clever. It's just a very clever device, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's and it's and it's constant. Must have been
Speaker 1: fun to really must have been so much fun to
Speaker 1: play that, you know, it must have been so much
Speaker 1: fun for Lauren Graham to to just execute all of
Speaker 1: those great lines. I mean, how much fun to sit
Speaker 1: down and read those scripts and being the table read
Speaker 1: and read all those scripts. And I remember those table reads.
Speaker 1: I mean, she was just like she was getting laughs
Speaker 1: at the tabs like you would get on a high,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like as you're going
Speaker 1: through those scenes, and the adrenaline is kind of going
Speaker 1: and it feels like such a rush because the way
Speaker 1: the scenes are, it's just like a dance, you know,
Speaker 1: And so I was gonna ask you, like, do you
Speaker 1: remember I would almost think you are exhausted at the
Speaker 1: end of the day because you're just going and going
Speaker 1: and going. It's I mean, we're doing is as comedy,
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, it's aggressive hostility
Speaker 1: toward herself, toward other characters, toward her mother, towards me,
Speaker 1: to where I mean, it's all deflecting, and it's it's denial,
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's all that stuff. So it's so
Speaker 1: it's a little bit draining on your energy. Um, but
Speaker 1: to play it, it's fun and to be the straight
Speaker 1: man to all those great lines is fun because it's
Speaker 1: all about timing, you know. It's like it's it's it's
Speaker 1: all that can time, and she does it so beautifully.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get her on the show. Can
Speaker 1: you make a comparison between your work on this show
Speaker 1: and your work on say the Event, Oh God night
Speaker 1: and so different? What is that? Can you give me
Speaker 1: a little like you're sort of what it feels like?
Speaker 1: Was this more fun? Well? Yeah, okay, So the next
Speaker 1: series I did after Gilmore was called Aliens in America,
Speaker 1: and that was really great comedy writing as well. It
Speaker 1: was just a different kind you know. It was like
Speaker 1: half hour sitcom writing in in a in a single
Speaker 1: camera format, you know what I mean. So it felt
Speaker 1: a little more real. But it had those and it
Speaker 1: was it was an all star team of comedy writers
Speaker 1: because nobody was doing half hour anymore. And so we
Speaker 1: had these all these uh Emmy winning showrunners on the
Speaker 1: staff and we were just on the writing staff, and
Speaker 1: the and the and the three show runners were like these,
Speaker 1: you know, these giants of comedy business. So was that
Speaker 1: more comparable to your experience on Gilmore Girls? A little bit? Not?
Speaker 1: The time, there was some timing differences. It wasn't so
Speaker 1: like one character just dominating the entire thing, like you
Speaker 1: know the way the way laurelized characters sort of like
Speaker 1: you know, goes through every single character like that, like
Speaker 1: a like a comedic buzz saw. Um, and we're sort
Speaker 1: of following her narrative and we you know, we'll follow
Speaker 1: Rory too, but it always comes back to her and
Speaker 1: her and Rory and her mom and her her mom
Speaker 1: and her and Luke and you know, um, so she's
Speaker 1: she's the core of the show. But um, but then
Speaker 1: when I got to the event in two thousand and ten.
Speaker 1: It was like, this is a drama. There's nothing funny
Speaker 1: about this. Um. You know, they had some issues with
Speaker 1: the writing because they changed. The original show runner got
Speaker 1: swapped out for somebody who, in my opinion, had no
Speaker 1: feel for this type of material. And it was odd.
Speaker 1: It was very difficult to do. It was really it
Speaker 1: was not your same experience. You had a very very
Speaker 1: difficult to do because it was it was kind of confusing.
Speaker 1: It was a show that was kind of all over
Speaker 1: the place in terms of I loved the show, but
Speaker 1: I was sort of like we just happened, like you
Speaker 1: thought this is going to be, so it was sort
Speaker 1: of ahead of its time where you're like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is so but it was sort of being but it
Speaker 1: was being retooled in real in the moment, so you
Speaker 1: can't really do that and pull up but anyway, but
Speaker 1: Gilmore was definitely those shows like do you feel like
Speaker 1: Gilmore was so much more of a family for you
Speaker 1: as opposed to these other shows. I was thinking about
Speaker 1: that today when I I because I watched the episode
Speaker 1: again right before we came on the air, and this is,
Speaker 1: you know, the scene in the diner scenes with Rachel
Speaker 1: and Lorela, and I just thought I missed that set.
Speaker 1: You know, I miss that job. I really miss having
Speaker 1: that job because it was a family feeling, you know,
Speaker 1: and it was like that was our you know, the
Speaker 1: back lot of Warner Brothers was our real estate. That
Speaker 1: was ours. The entire back lot of Warner Brothers was
Speaker 1: stars Hollow and we were there for seven years, and
Speaker 1: I just got it was great. That was great to
Speaker 1: be on that and I think we felt it as
Speaker 1: every guest has come on. But really with Milo, it
Speaker 1: was like, wow, you really got the the closeness between
Speaker 1: the two of you. And then I think what I
Speaker 1: experienced with Isaac was he was very He expressed so
Speaker 1: well his love for the show better than any of
Speaker 1: us are ever able to communicate it. And then I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, like it is so heartwarming. It just
Speaker 1: is like the what this show did for you all,
Speaker 1: but also for the audience. It just people just love
Speaker 1: it so much. And I think maybe we're getting nostalgic
Speaker 1: already because we're coming, you know, we're getting closer to
Speaker 1: the end of season one in our recaps, and so
Speaker 1: I am starting to think, like, wow, this show really
Speaker 1: means a lot to people. Oh without question, and it
Speaker 1: should because it's all sort of shared experiences. I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody could relate to these because everybody can sort of
Speaker 1: pick and choose what experiences they've had, and they've they're
Speaker 1: highlighted in the show. Um, these are all universal themes, right.
Speaker 1: So in the stock room, I think what stood out
Speaker 1: to me is and I am like a terrible actor,
Speaker 1: so I would never be able to do this. It's
Speaker 1: the glance. So you two are talking and she sort
Speaker 1: of says, I mean unless there's something, you know, like
Speaker 1: standing in your way, and you're like, no, you know,
Speaker 1: there's nothing standing my way. But the expressions on both
Speaker 1: your faces is like we love each other. Right, It's
Speaker 1: like a couple of riverboat gamblers holding holding great hands
Speaker 1: and nobody's gonna and it was just like just bluffing
Speaker 1: each other. Wow. And I think Lauren, when I watch
Speaker 1: laurealized expressions, she's so talented because not only does she
Speaker 1: deliver like the funny lines so perfectly, but she delivers
Speaker 1: a facial expression just a tiny little thing and you
Speaker 1: you so get it. And that's what I thought in
Speaker 1: the stock room was like, and obviously that was the intention,
Speaker 1: but boy did it work, because you're like, Wow, why
Speaker 1: do you to not just tell each other? She had
Speaker 1: you know, she has that job of appearing vulnerable but
Speaker 1: still guarded and still doesn't want to let in let
Speaker 1: on to me what her intentions really are, but it's
Speaker 1: kind of obvious to an audience watching. Yeah, and she's
Speaker 1: you know, I do like her relationship with Rachel. They
Speaker 1: do seem like, you know, I don't think I don't
Speaker 1: think Laura is like a backstabber. She's not going to
Speaker 1: tell Rachel these things and support Rachel and tell you
Speaker 1: to date Rachel and then suddenly like kiss you in
Speaker 1: the stock room, do you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: that is not her move. She's not that. She's very genuine,
Speaker 1: so she really you believe that she does want you
Speaker 1: to be happy. And then in the movie theater scene
Speaker 1: when Rory and Lorela are seeing you guys, and he
Speaker 1: looks happy, doesn't he? But there's just that little part
Speaker 1: that's like, he looks happy. I'm so happy for him,
Speaker 1: except my heart is breaking a little bit. And isn't
Speaker 1: an interesting how they keep those worlds separated. The Gilmore
Speaker 1: world is one world. Luke's the stars Hollow world is
Speaker 1: another world. And Luke's world isn't is a completely separate
Speaker 1: universe and they and rarely do they they cross the
Speaker 1: streams and when they do it can be very explosive.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, you know the dynamic between I mean,
Speaker 1: Rory is the sweetest person. God, she a smart sweet
Speaker 1: just the way she is with her grandma and taking
Speaker 1: her around the town and getting her the sneakers, and
Speaker 1: I mean, there was so much in this episode. The
Speaker 1: scene between Mrs Kim and Emily is so genius with
Speaker 1: the two of them negotiating over the furniture, and Lane
Speaker 1: and Rory are watching and like, I wish we had
Speaker 1: some popcorn, you know, like and that's just one little
Speaker 1: scene in this episode and that wasn't even like really
Speaker 1: a major thing, and you just you're like, god, this
Speaker 1: there's so much happening. And Kirk was amazing in this episode.
Speaker 1: And you and Rachel, and the triangle between you, Rachel
Speaker 1: and Lorela is a whole thing in itself, because you
Speaker 1: are uncomfortable with their friendship. You don't want to say it,
Speaker 1: and why are they becoming friends? And then the three
Speaker 1: of you, I mean, it's just oh so much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one of the funnier moments for me. Well, I'll just
Speaker 1: tell you right now, the best moment, the two best
Speaker 1: moments in that whole the whole show. We're unique and Ruin.
Speaker 1: I mean that unique Ruin scene just had me in tears.
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you have so many to choose from?
Speaker 1: I can't wait till Riley tries to re enact that
Speaker 1: scene and no, no, we should do that. Riley, are
Speaker 1: you ready for a French accent? You gotta, you gotta
Speaker 1: give it a shot. And who's gonna be ruined? I'm
Speaker 1: not going to be ruined, Amy, you gotta. I can't
Speaker 1: even be rude. It was so funny because when we
Speaker 1: were preparing for this episode, we were talking about you know,
Speaker 1: who's who's is on the episode, and Daniel's like, you know,
Speaker 1: run comes back on this episode. And I literally said
Speaker 1: to Daniel, I think we've all had enough and it's
Speaker 1: just a little did we know that we did not
Speaker 1: have enough of him? Because here he was. Megan is
Speaker 1: laughing again, Oh my god. I mean Trusdale, what a
Speaker 1: great scene that and his scene with Emily. Riley, try
Speaker 1: and do a little Michelle. What was the line against
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you must be in the wrong place. Perhaps
Speaker 1: you should be in the Y M c A or
Speaker 1: a bus depot. I feel like you need eyebrows when
Speaker 1: you do. I'm sorry, You're on the wrong place. You
Speaker 1: must be looking for the Russians. Do try again, try again,
Speaker 1: Deep in the throat, deep in the throat. M you
Speaker 1: must be you must be in the wrong always comes
Speaker 1: out Russian. No one thinks this is funny, but us,
Speaker 1: we think it's so funny that we're just gonna keep
Speaker 1: doing it because everyone's like, yeah, that part's not funny,
Speaker 1: and we're like, it's so hilarious it is. I love Michelle,
Speaker 1: Oh god, what I care? How about the met how
Speaker 1: about the meaning? Really quick? We just need to play
Speaker 1: one little clip really quick. Don't bring on our curt Easton.
Speaker 1: Can you do one more? Just one more? Do the
Speaker 1: scott one? Do you know? Maybe? Time good? So funny.
Speaker 1: And then in the in the theater with Laureli, she
Speaker 1: says to Kirk, no, no, you got you. You need
Speaker 1: a little seed to fin on middle pan. You don't
Speaker 1: want to be a driving a tractor with that and
Speaker 1: get drowsy. She did it with a little Southern accents.
Speaker 1: I love, And she's like, you got a cold. So good,
Speaker 1: so good, the whole thing. Okay, I know we need
Speaker 1: to take a break. When we come back. I want
Speaker 1: to hear what you think of Luke and Rachel. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, when we come back after these messages where
Speaker 1: you're gonna get my thoughts on Luke and Rachel and
Speaker 1: you might be a little bit surprised anyway, we'll be
Speaker 1: back after that. Yeah, alright, so we're back everybody. Uh,
Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. I heart radio.
Speaker 1: I want to live productions. We're going to discuss what
Speaker 1: do we want to discuss? What I think of Luke
Speaker 1: and Rachel. I want to talk about Luke and Rachel.
Speaker 1: Amy you want you want to get into that. Pardon me,
Speaker 1: we're having a small problem. You can talk to us.
Speaker 1: We're here for you. I need to know about Luke
Speaker 1: and Rachel because I you tell me, you tell me.
Speaker 1: I just want to listen to your thoughts. I just
Speaker 1: he seems happy, you know, It's just you know, look,
Speaker 1: when you have a character like Rachel with a history
Speaker 1: of abandoning and running scared repeatedly, then that's what's going
Speaker 1: to happen. You know, That's what they're training the audience
Speaker 1: to expect it and to get ready for it, because
Speaker 1: no matter how good it gets, it's coming again. Um.
Speaker 1: And that's basically how I feel about it. And he's,
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's being very guarded because he Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I mean, how can he Here's the thing
Speaker 1: that confuses me and I played it is he in
Speaker 1: love with Rachel or is he in love with Laurel I?
Speaker 1: And I think I think that he is trying. I
Speaker 1: think there are residual feelings for Rachel that he can't avoid,
Speaker 1: but they aren't as deep as his feelings for Laurel I.
Speaker 1: And he's there's he has no choice, but life thrown
Speaker 1: him this, you know, this sort of situation, and he's
Speaker 1: doing the best he can with it because you know,
Speaker 1: he's not a he's not a jerk. He's not going
Speaker 1: to be mean to Rachel, right, So he's kind of
Speaker 1: hanging in there as a as much of a friend
Speaker 1: and and a lover and a boyfriend as he can
Speaker 1: because it's almost like an obligation. It's the right thing
Speaker 1: to do, but so accurate. I think you're I think
Speaker 1: that is exactly what how it landed to me, And
Speaker 1: that when Rachel was on the scene. There was no
Speaker 1: laure Lae yet we know that we know the timeline
Speaker 1: is a little fishy and maybe they had briefly met whatever.
Speaker 1: So so Rachel leaves him and he was heartbroken about it,
Speaker 1: and we know that we know the town has made
Speaker 1: it clear to us that you were heartbroken. So when
Speaker 1: you're heartbroken, all you want is if she would just
Speaker 1: come back to me, if she would just come back
Speaker 1: to me, if she would just come back to me. Well,
Speaker 1: interestingly enough, she did, so he's like, ah, this is
Speaker 1: what I wanted. But little did you know during that
Speaker 1: time you fell in love with somebody else, way more,
Speaker 1: way deeper. But it's still like it's not a thing yet.
Speaker 1: So it's like, I think he's happy with Rachel, and
Speaker 1: it seems very comfortable and very real and authentic and
Speaker 1: genuine and they really do love each other. Ye And
Speaker 1: she's not his soul mate anymore, and she knows it,
Speaker 1: which is why you're not even that stressing about when
Speaker 1: she's gonna leave. You're just gonna like she's gonna go.
Speaker 1: That is that is not a man in love. You
Speaker 1: can tell at the movie theaters too, about like they
Speaker 1: kind of had a little p d A. But then
Speaker 1: he would turn back and look at Laura La, and
Speaker 1: then Laura I would look at him, and you know,
Speaker 1: you can tell exactly what you just said just in
Speaker 1: that scene a lot, And like we talked about, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna like kiss her in the stock room, She's
Speaker 1: not going to kiss you in the stock room. There's
Speaker 1: none of that. It's not like it's going to be scandalous.
Speaker 1: It's just like, I guess, just like you've been waiting
Speaker 1: for Lorelei through Max and Lord knows who else is coming,
Speaker 1: she's got to do the same for you, and it's
Speaker 1: just these two are going to be waiting. I think
Speaker 1: Laura La allows Luke to be who he really is
Speaker 1: and and Laura La accepts him for what he is
Speaker 1: and he gets frustrated and a little angry and a
Speaker 1: little curmudgeonly, and she delights in that. She likes that,
Speaker 1: and he's a different person with Rachel and I just
Speaker 1: feel like I don't think he's putting on an act
Speaker 1: with Rachel. I just think he's kind of out of
Speaker 1: his comfort zone with her. Now I have a question.
Speaker 1: There was something that I didn't totally get in this episode,
Speaker 1: and it was like, I wanted to get it. I
Speaker 1: knew it was important, and I was like, why am
Speaker 1: I not understanding this? The very last scene, Laura Lee
Speaker 1: and roriore drinking the coffee and they both say, does
Speaker 1: this taste different to you? Can you explain to me
Speaker 1: what that was? What that meant? What was that that?
Speaker 1: She's Rachel's not being a good influence on Luke. He's
Speaker 1: off center. He's he's not as sure of himself. He
Speaker 1: you know, his world, whatever his world was before Rachel
Speaker 1: or getting over Rachel and kind of you know, flirting
Speaker 1: around with Laurela and almost popping the you know you
Speaker 1: want to go out questions on several several times. Um
Speaker 1: is That's who he is. That's he's solidly feed on
Speaker 1: the ground. That's him. And he loves her and he's
Speaker 1: pining for her. He's not thinking about Rachel. I mean,
Speaker 1: you might think about her in passing, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I think his mind is occupied with scenarios of his
Speaker 1: future with Laurel I I do. And he really, truly, truly,
Speaker 1: deeply loves her to the point where he's stand office
Speaker 1: somewhat and really having to build up the courage and
Speaker 1: take the chance that she'll say no, because that takes
Speaker 1: a lot of guts. I mean, the more you like
Speaker 1: a girl, the more of a coward you become in
Speaker 1: certain situations because you don't want to hear that no.
Speaker 1: And I think he's in that place with with with
Speaker 1: with Laurela obviously, but with Rachel, it's like he's not himself.
Speaker 1: He's not being himself. It's not a version of him
Speaker 1: that everyone's going to work out with her. And I
Speaker 1: think maybe he's realizing it. He had to be a
Speaker 1: certain way to please her. That's not him. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: part of the reason that she left, because it's not right.
Speaker 1: She left because it just she didn't feel right in
Speaker 1: the dynamic. He didn't feel right in that dyn ount.
Speaker 1: There was something you know, there were a couple of
Speaker 1: false notes being hit there. So you know, why, if
Speaker 1: if it was so great, why is she running off?
Speaker 1: I mean, and plus you know she wanted to travel
Speaker 1: and the whole thing, and he never wants to town.
Speaker 1: But but but yeah, the coffee indicates that the coffee
Speaker 1: that tastes different indicates that something something. Obviously, something's a
Speaker 1: little off here. Yes, something's a little off, And that
Speaker 1: gives Lauren Hope and and concerned for her friend who
Speaker 1: she loves, because is she doing the right thing by
Speaker 1: carrying out Rachel's requests to sort of close the deal
Speaker 1: for her? And it's kind of a strange dynamics. She
Speaker 1: finds herself very weird. Now she realizes that she probably
Speaker 1: shouldn't be doing that because the coffee is off. Luke's
Speaker 1: not himself. I love him. He's my friend and he
Speaker 1: maybe he's going to be my boyfriend, and may I
Speaker 1: wish he was? And I wish you'd get to, you know,
Speaker 1: grow up here and finally, you know, like get over
Speaker 1: here and let's let's start this thing. Yeah, I don't Actually,
Speaker 1: I don't think we're overthinking this. I think that everything
Speaker 1: you're saying is at play. There is more going on
Speaker 1: here than everyone's using in their words. I I I could,
Speaker 1: I think to myself and I we're thinking this. Am
Speaker 1: I reading too much into it? It's like, no, I
Speaker 1: think we're analyzing it pretty correctly in that she wants
Speaker 1: to do right by you. She wants you to be happy.
Speaker 1: She thinks Rachel's making you happy, so she wants to
Speaker 1: do that. Where there is that other part of her
Speaker 1: that's like you just see it all in the stock
Speaker 1: room and unless there's something standing in your way, right,
Speaker 1: but in the but in the coffee that's at loft,
Speaker 1: that's a signal to Laurel Rachel's not right for him,
Speaker 1: m h. And that gives her concern and hope. She
Speaker 1: is perfectly cast though. God, I think with her name
Speaker 1: Lisa Anne Hadley, she is cast so well because she
Speaker 1: is so pretty. She looks nothing like Lorelei. She's you
Speaker 1: really do like her. You can't not like her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's lovely, and so it's like, God, they really found
Speaker 1: the perfect person to play that part. Yeah, because even that,
Speaker 1: the dragonfly and all of it seems like, you know,
Speaker 1: I think she's befriending Lorelei for for the right reasons,
Speaker 1: as opposed to keep your enemies closer. Do you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I feel like she wants to be
Speaker 1: friends with her, and she doesn't seem threatened by her.
Speaker 1: It forces her to question a lot of what Luke
Speaker 1: wants in his life and therefore what she wants in
Speaker 1: her life. Does she want him more? Does she want
Speaker 1: him left? But the thing, yeah, because she's so such
Speaker 1: a different person, I found the exchanges between Rachel and
Speaker 1: Laurela to be kind of awkward and forced, and I
Speaker 1: didn't think that they melded well as people, you know.
Speaker 1: And I also don't feel the chemistry between between Rachel
Speaker 1: and Luke. I feel it well with Laurel. I thought
Speaker 1: about that too. So when you when when Luke comes
Speaker 1: up to the apartment to put them something the safe,
Speaker 1: he says, Hi, you know, acute high, but they don't
Speaker 1: like kiss there. There's not a ton of affection. I
Speaker 1: don't have even seen them kiss. I'm trying to remember,
Speaker 1: do you know what the problem is? Do you know
Speaker 1: what Rachel can't compete with? And she's all that and
Speaker 1: a bag of chips in terms of her positivity and
Speaker 1: her glowing, clean, scrubbed uh nature, just a just a
Speaker 1: beautiful soul through and through. Is that there's no darkness
Speaker 1: in her right, there's no edge, there's no sarcasm. And
Speaker 1: there's a ton of darkness and edge in Luke and
Speaker 1: in Laurel. I but they are from completely different worlds,
Speaker 1: so they seem I mean, is it especially in that
Speaker 1: sense perfect note? I think that's you're right. When he
Speaker 1: came into his apartment and what are you doing here.
Speaker 1: I mean they just they fall into their rhythm like that,
Speaker 1: like they're together, like they belong together. Almost. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: there are two puzzle pieces that totally fit. Whereas she,
Speaker 1: Rachel is the shiny object that you say, like you
Speaker 1: should like her, look at her right, But she's great.
Speaker 1: But it's like, in reality, it's not about what's on paper.
Speaker 1: Luke's tough, he's a tough guy, but laurel Ez is
Speaker 1: really tough. She's as tough as she is he is.
Speaker 1: It just seems like their connection is so deep now too.
Speaker 1: I think when we come back, I do need to
Speaker 1: talk to you about Luke's apartment though, because this was
Speaker 1: really the first time getting to see that, and boy
Speaker 1: did I analyze it differently watching it this time than
Speaker 1: I did the last you know, four times I've seen
Speaker 1: this episode. And then I couldn't help because we did
Speaker 1: get a you know, we know that the sledgehammer scene
Speaker 1: is coming, so it's just like, oh my god, that's
Speaker 1: That's one of the things I most strongly identify with
Speaker 1: Lucas as a person. It's just having a place that's convenient.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's glitzy. It's got to be convenient,
Speaker 1: and that is that's why he sleeps there. Anyway. You
Speaker 1: want to take a simple Yeah, your looks a simple guy. Simple.
Speaker 1: I do the same thing. To the horror of my wife,
Speaker 1: I do the same thing. Like let's say we're looking
Speaker 1: for another place in a vacation spot, right, and there's
Speaker 1: the mansions that nobody can afford, and then there's sort
Speaker 1: of the lesser mansions that's still nobody can afford now,
Speaker 1: and then like, hey, look at this dump. It's it's
Speaker 1: right by the lift. It's like she said, like, are
Speaker 1: you f and kidding me? We're not going there? He
Speaker 1: is Luke. That is as we know. It's interesting, but
Speaker 1: it's right there. You roll out of bed, you slept
Speaker 1: on this, you go. It hasn't been revealed to us
Speaker 1: so much yet. But Luke has money. Yeah, Luke is
Speaker 1: living there by choice, not because he has to. That's
Speaker 1: all he can afford. No, I know, Yeah, No, he
Speaker 1: doesn't want. He doesn't want the inconvenience and the bills
Speaker 1: and the responsibility of a real house. It's a big
Speaker 1: you know, it's a big nut to bite off. Man.
Speaker 1: It's just it's it's it's really and it's constant. So
Speaker 1: he's being smart, right, what the hell is he needs?
Speaker 1: You know, his dad left him a perfect situation, a
Speaker 1: business and a place to crash. Let's break down apartment.
Speaker 1: Let's break down apartment when we come back, all right,
Speaker 1: so we we We will be back in a new
Speaker 1: segment on our show. It's gonna be apartment breakdown. We're
Speaker 1: gonna into a little real estate discussion too. And uh,
Speaker 1: that's a new angle for Gilmore girls. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: real estate. We go from Luke to Emily Gilmour's mench
Speaker 1: All right, we'll be back after these works. Yeah, hey, everybody.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Luke's apartment. What's the deal with
Speaker 1: Luke's apartment. Let's let's let's let's let's go ahead. Is
Speaker 1: there no bathroom door because I really could see the toilet.
Speaker 1: There's a cathroom door. SI door open because the photos
Speaker 1: were trying She's hanging on those photos the So what
Speaker 1: is your So give me Scott's thoughts on Luke's apartment.
Speaker 1: It's the perfect place. It's convenient, it's right there. He
Speaker 1: wakes up, he goes downstairs, and nobody can really vandalize
Speaker 1: his place because he's right upstairs and nobody knows that
Speaker 1: they're not going to get away with anything. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's his world. He's protecting his world. He's he's
Speaker 1: right there. I relate to that so strongly. His apartment
Speaker 1: is very Luke. It's not it's not gross, but it's
Speaker 1: not fabulous. I had an apartment like that when I
Speaker 1: got the show, and then I stayed in that apartment
Speaker 1: for three years until my accountant was screaming at me, saying,
Speaker 1: you got to buy a house, so you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to write a huge check to the government. I said,
Speaker 1: all right, now, it's starting to buy the apartment a studio.
Speaker 1: Would we call it a studio that is a studio loft? Yes, No,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a studio. Maybe it's a studio, well loft,
Speaker 1: I mean it's above. Yeah, maybe it's a studio loft. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good studio. Yeah. So it's got the kitchen, it's not
Speaker 1: the bathroom. There's definitely the bed, which was interesting because
Speaker 1: that was like, oh my god, that's where Luke sleeps.
Speaker 1: And it had like the one pillow and then it
Speaker 1: had that sort of chair pillow on it. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. You know those pillows that are
Speaker 1: like chair pillows, you know, they have arms. Then he's
Speaker 1: got the cow. So it's not itty bitty, it's not
Speaker 1: so small, it's not big. It's perfect. It's perfect for
Speaker 1: one person or two people who like each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not a roommate type of situation. It's like where
Speaker 1: lovers can be there. And and who did the curtains?
Speaker 1: Luke did the curtains? And did you do that as
Speaker 1: a touch for Rachel? I think that is you know
Speaker 1: what that is. That's a question for our audience to
Speaker 1: eat nail us about because they probably know because they
Speaker 1: know everything. So that's the question what's the deal with
Speaker 1: the curtains people? And I also want to know how
Speaker 1: they interpreted the coffee scene we were talking about, because
Speaker 1: I think you're pretty much nailing it, but I want
Speaker 1: to see if anybody else has different thoughts. So, okay,
Speaker 1: Riley and Danielle, what do you think of the apartment?
Speaker 1: It's screamed dude to me, but very very in in
Speaker 1: a good way, not in a like a gross crusty way,
Speaker 1: and like a guy definitely lives here, you know. I
Speaker 1: definitely agree that it was very minimal, minimal and easy
Speaker 1: like quick access. It was very dude, like, all right,
Speaker 1: skis skis in boots right there at the front door.
Speaker 1: R is just filled with with with crazy crap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's a home. That's a warm, loving home, filling
Speaker 1: they like clutter. I mean, come on, Rory and Laura,
Speaker 1: I like clutters. Yeah, but they're you know, they're that's
Speaker 1: a loving home filled with memories and filled with memorabilia
Speaker 1: of their memory. You know. It's it's it's a nice,
Speaker 1: warm space. It really is. And it's not that's not
Speaker 1: a big that's not a big plate. It's got a foyer,
Speaker 1: it's got a living room, it's downstairs, a bedroom downstairs
Speaker 1: and a kitchen downstairs and then a couple of betters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not huge. It has that nice front
Speaker 1: yard though. How epic Going backwards to this episode was
Speaker 1: the Charlie's Angels plates though she's all, it's easy to
Speaker 1: find a Kate Jackson. You know, it's hard. Antonia Roberts like,
Speaker 1: I was just like and it's going over these young
Speaker 1: people's heads. But for me, like Charlie's Angels is just everything.
Speaker 1: It's such a relief to see Emily in her element
Speaker 1: with her granddaughter and to just imagine what she really
Speaker 1: wanted for Laurela and how she wanted to be with Laurela,
Speaker 1: and you know, it gives it the sort of tragic
Speaker 1: purport shan to it, but it's it's nice to see
Speaker 1: Emily in a good mood. I love seeing her. She goes, oh,
Speaker 1: I really after after leaving Mrs Kim she goes, oh,
Speaker 1: I like that woman, and and oh I love this street.
Speaker 1: Look at that. I mean, she's just everything's glowing for
Speaker 1: her now, and in her tennis shoes and a tennis shoes.
Speaker 1: What about when Emily gets upset when she sees the
Speaker 1: shed and she goes running off and Rory's like, was
Speaker 1: it the Terry ACKI did? She say? Remember they went
Speaker 1: to like was it Terryoki Joe? And you can tell
Speaker 1: was it Terry? She looks like at Clydesdale in those shoes.
Speaker 1: The whole thing was so good and it was just
Speaker 1: so much. And then you know, we should talk about
Speaker 1: for a minute your thoughts on Emily creating the room
Speaker 1: for Rory. I mean, we touched on it briefly, but like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I wish I had grandparents that did death
Speaker 1: for me when I was growing up. That would have
Speaker 1: been I mean, what a what a beautiful gesture. And
Speaker 1: again and again I said it before. It's just all
Speaker 1: of her stored up love and affection ah being thrown
Speaker 1: upon Rory, and she's a beneficiary of it. She will
Speaker 1: continue to be the beneficiary of it. Um. And it's
Speaker 1: amazing how that can provoke Laurela. I mean, something so
Speaker 1: good natured and so positive for her daughter puts her
Speaker 1: in conflict with her with her own mother. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's just such a such a circle. Um.
Speaker 1: But I think I think it was a wonderful gesture.
Speaker 1: I think it's a I really really like Emily. I
Speaker 1: really like her. I know she's overbearing and I know
Speaker 1: she made some mistakes with Laurela and laurel I had
Speaker 1: no choice, I get it. But man, I really like her.
Speaker 1: I really like her. She's a fighter. Man, she's she's
Speaker 1: she's tough. And that's where Laurelai gets it. She gets
Speaker 1: that steal from her mother, you know, that bone of iron,
Speaker 1: and that's where Rory gets it. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's handed down from from from from Emily. So it's
Speaker 1: it's it's just wonderful to see. It's really, it's really
Speaker 1: wonderful to see Emily also deflect all of the negativity
Speaker 1: and jokes and stick and vaudeville quips coming in that
Speaker 1: are from Laura way five three and there it is.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like, man, I mean, it's just like
Speaker 1: what she gets away, what she's tolerated to spend time
Speaker 1: with her granddaughter, spending the money paying for the college,
Speaker 1: getting her way. Um, good for her. I'm really, I'm
Speaker 1: really I'm really rooting for her. I'd love having Emily
Speaker 1: in Stars Hollow. And I know I said it, but
Speaker 1: the scene with Emily and Mrs Kim is just so
Speaker 1: great and it really, it really is. And you see
Speaker 1: the genius of both of them. You're like, God, Mrs
Speaker 1: Kim rocks to a couple of toughly good business one
Speaker 1: and Emily is just having a good time with Rory.
Speaker 1: It's really sweet. And and Emily and Michelle, I mean,
Speaker 1: I know we talked about it, but they of course
Speaker 1: those two would immediately love each other. But but but
Speaker 1: she never you know, Emily never got to enjoy Laurel
Speaker 1: I up to a certain point and then it was
Speaker 1: done over. You know, by the time Laurel I was
Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen years old, they were having massive conflict to
Speaker 1: the point where she went out and well, yeah, we
Speaker 1: and we learned that one tricks was here, that that
Speaker 1: Emily cannot take anybody getting in the way of her
Speaker 1: having this relationship with Rory. It's her whole life now. Yes,
Speaker 1: imagine how good that makes her feel, your granddaughter, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, and such a I mean and and I
Speaker 1: mean talk about a person with such unlimited potential and Rory,
Speaker 1: I mean, she must feel so proud and she's going
Speaker 1: to contribute to her education. It's like it's like everything
Speaker 1: I tried to do in my own family with my niece,
Speaker 1: and you know, uh, and it's and it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's a wonderful. She's just having the time for a life.
Speaker 1: She's having these wonderful experiences before getting closer and close
Speaker 1: joys spending more time with her. That's wonderful to say.
Speaker 1: I think it's wonderful. Yeah, and I, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I know we have to wrap up and do some
Speaker 1: pop culture, but I I know that what we saw
Speaker 1: in this episode is just teeing up what happens next week.
Speaker 1: It's like, buckle really, oh yeah, I'm gonna try not
Speaker 1: to watch it. I peeked ahead and it was like, alright,
Speaker 1: take it, take it easy, take don't get it, don't
Speaker 1: give up the ghost. It's just getting better and better.
Speaker 1: You know, let me ask you this before we before
Speaker 1: we do pop culture. And I know that everyone talks
Speaker 1: about how Amy and Dan weren't there for season seven
Speaker 1: or whatever. You know, how year two three are never
Speaker 1: as good as year one with Gil our girls. Would
Speaker 1: you say it got better and better and better? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I can't. I honestly can't answer that because
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the episodes, and now, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: seeing these episodes for the first time, and they are
Speaker 1: mind blowingly good, you know, And I don't mean it
Speaker 1: sounds like a broken record, but it's it's it's really
Speaker 1: it's time to wake up, time to wake I wake
Speaker 1: up to that every morning at six thirty, by the way, okay, literally,
Speaker 1: that alarm is telling us like it's like it's time six,
Speaker 1: and then ten minutes later, right sixty, and then six
Speaker 1: fifty and then sixty seven, and then I go get
Speaker 1: my boy, right, I go into his bedroom, said, come on,
Speaker 1: let's go, buddy. My wife's are like I think. I
Speaker 1: was listening to Conan O'Brien's podcast and he's interview Michael Keaton,
Speaker 1: who I like, have a huge love for Michael Keaton,
Speaker 1: and Michael Keaton's alarm went off during it, but he
Speaker 1: has that guitar strom much and you're just like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, so good. Who doesn't love an alarm going
Speaker 1: after it? Anyway, we obviously you know, I'm I'm enjoying
Speaker 1: you watching it for the first time because it does
Speaker 1: get even better. I can't imagine if how can you
Speaker 1: even get better? Because it's just, oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: just it's so intricate, it's so interwoven. It's just growing
Speaker 1: and growing and growing. You'll see, oh my god, highly
Speaker 1: addictive show highly I know it's so hard not to
Speaker 1: let the Netflix just roll. That's what I want to do,
Speaker 1: is say, after I get off this, I'm like clearing
Speaker 1: the schedule. I'm gonna yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I just
Speaker 1: cancel all my appointments. I'm watching Gilmore Girls. Emily's on
Speaker 1: the one. You know, Emily is feeling good and I
Speaker 1: want to feel good too. What do you mean? What
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Come did dinner? I'm watching Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 1: Let me now, I get it right. It's like I
Speaker 1: want to have it on the background all the time.
Speaker 1: I know that's the same thing with me. But yet
Speaker 1: it's two in the morning and I'm like, I think
Speaker 1: I can do one more. I think, really, I'm not
Speaker 1: there yet, but I'm getting there late at night. I'm
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Speaker 1: everybody looking forward. All right, Riley, bring your a game,
Speaker 1: because why don't you read the comments because they need
Speaker 1: more from you. I will give a plus plus everything
Speaker 1: I have in this I might take me to take
Speaker 1: a nap after it's coming at you fire, all right, Riley,
Speaker 1: And this is your pop culture. So first we have
Speaker 1: the title itself, Emily in Wonderland. So we've talked about
Speaker 1: Alice in Wonderland on this podcast before, but here are
Speaker 1: a couple more fun facts. So Alice was a real
Speaker 1: girl and was the daughter of author Carol's boss Henry
Speaker 1: and Queen Victoria was a fan of Carol and even
Speaker 1: suggested that he dedicate his next work to her. Lane
Speaker 1: refers to Emily and Kim bargaining back and forth, and
Speaker 1: Lane says it's like watching the Williams sisters you can't
Speaker 1: think of women's tennis without naming sisters Venus and Serena Williams.
Speaker 1: Serena and Venus are two of five girls in their family.
Speaker 1: Will Smith is set to play Richard Williams, father to
Speaker 1: tennis icons Venus and Serena Williams, in a new movie
Speaker 1: called King. Richard and Serena married and started a family
Speaker 1: along with Alexis o'hanion, the co founder of Reddit. Ski
Speaker 1: Comparer's rude stay at Jackson's to the movie The Last Weekend,
Speaker 1: The Last Weekend, which is about an alcoholics for day
Speaker 1: drinking binge which seems to drag on forever. Laura Lai says,
Speaker 1: I thought he was only here for a weekend, and
Speaker 1: Souk he says the Last Weekend. So The Last Weekend
Speaker 1: is a drama. Billy Wilder claimed the liquor industry offered
Speaker 1: Paramount Pictures five million dollars to not only release the film,
Speaker 1: but he also suggested that he would have accepted the
Speaker 1: offer to him, he would have accepted the offer himself
Speaker 1: personally and to prepare for the part. Ray milland spent
Speaker 1: one night in Bellevue Hospital as a patient. He also
Speaker 1: stopped eating regularly. As a as alcoholics forget to do so.
Speaker 1: Laura Lai says, I don't know exactly what's going on
Speaker 1: Rachel's head because I'm not a Vulcan. We have talked
Speaker 1: about the Vulcans and their grip, but here a couple
Speaker 1: more fun fact. Beginning in the original series, the character
Speaker 1: Spock was able to mind meld by touching another being's
Speaker 1: head and share thoughts. Vulcans have their own language in
Speaker 1: the Star Trek universe, so English was dubbed over the
Speaker 1: Vulcan translation and an interesting twist. Adam Nimoy directed season
Speaker 1: one episode three, Kill Me Now of Gilmore Girls, and
Speaker 1: his father Leonard played Spock in the original Star Trek
Speaker 1: Little blend of two worlds there, Lorala makes this reference
Speaker 1: as an Emily is becoming more casual, but which we've
Speaker 1: talked about. Loria I says, I can't picture you at
Speaker 1: teryaki shows or in jogging shoes. What's up? Working Girl?
Speaker 1: Working Girl is in n American romantic comedy drama film
Speaker 1: starring Melanie Griffith and Harrison Ford. No one expected it
Speaker 1: to be the hit it was. Melanie Griffith has admitted
Speaker 1: that she found her co star Alec Baldwin, who plays
Speaker 1: her cheating ex boyfriend Mick, extremely attractive and even went
Speaker 1: so far as to pursue romantic relationship with actor brothers.
Speaker 1: Stephen Baldwin used to be famous for his acting and
Speaker 1: now is known in pop culture as Hailey Bieber's father.
Speaker 1: So true, so true, right, Laurel I says gold potting
Speaker 1: shed that's where Roy and I lived when she was
Speaker 1: a baby, and has memories and little rosebud wallpaper. I
Speaker 1: don't want Boo Radley touching my rosebud wallpaper. She refers
Speaker 1: to Ruin as Boo rad exactly. Boo Radley is a
Speaker 1: character from Harper Lee's To Kill a Mockingbird. Actor Robert
Speaker 1: Duval play Boo Radley in the nineteen sixty two film interpretation.
Speaker 1: Can I just Can I just interject here? That was
Speaker 1: one of the more terrifying moments of my childhood when
Speaker 1: my parents and I and my sisters were watching To
Speaker 1: Kill a mocking Bird, and we'd watched it every year.
Speaker 1: It was like it was a yearly ritual. But that
Speaker 1: first time that, um, I guess in the courtroom, where
Speaker 1: is that? The first time you see Robert Duval as
Speaker 1: as Boo Radley just gave me nightmares. What a what
Speaker 1: a great performance by by a great actor. Anyway, go ahead,
Speaker 1: sorry to look so creepy. Actually he stayed out of
Speaker 1: the sun for six weeks and dyed his hair blonde
Speaker 1: for the role of Boo Radley. Um. So, Emily calls
Speaker 1: Rory to ask big questions we later find out was
Speaker 1: too for her room. Emily says, Sunflowers it is. Now,
Speaker 1: what about music in sync or ninety degrees? Emily says,
Speaker 1: what about that other group, the Backside Boys. She ended
Speaker 1: up going with the ninety degrees, which was maybe that
Speaker 1: was all they could clear It was clearance, so in sync,
Speaker 1: ninety Degrees and actually Backstreet Boys. These three groups are
Speaker 1: what you think of when thinking of boy bands. In
Speaker 1: a crazy twist, A J. McClean, Lance Bass and Nicholas
Speaker 1: She all presented at the VMAs this year, the boy
Speaker 1: band throwback we all needed. Yeah, boy bands just don't
Speaker 1: go away. They're like cockroaches. They keep coming back and
Speaker 1: dancing better than ever. What a nice thing to say.
Speaker 1: I love I'm a big boy band fan, but like,
Speaker 1: they don't go away, Like those guys have all been
Speaker 1: around for like thirty years. Was Nick Carter in one
Speaker 1: of those boy bands. Yeah, he's a backside boy. So
Speaker 1: so let me tell you. I was you know, I
Speaker 1: get I do personal appearances, and I was requested for
Speaker 1: a private birthday party for some a very lovely heiress
Speaker 1: type person from another country. Yes, so they fly in
Speaker 1: the whole deal. And uh, she just loves sauce so much.
Speaker 1: And I thought I was the main gig. I thought
Speaker 1: I was at I was a warm up act for
Speaker 1: Nick Carter, and Nick Carter showed up and with my
Speaker 1: producer on guitar by the way, Nick performed. Nick performed
Speaker 1: as a set with a guitar and a sort of
Speaker 1: little bit legit a couple of guitars and acoustic guitars
Speaker 1: and I think a drum machine. And he was fantastic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those guys can sing. Oh, he can sing his ass off.
Speaker 1: He can sing his backside boys off. Yeah, they're really
Speaker 1: called the Backstreet Great Songs. And he was I mean
Speaker 1: what a performer. Those guys can all sing. Oh, but
Speaker 1: I mean but just just how he performed. And she
Speaker 1: was enthralled, and she's like, you know, she'd look at
Speaker 1: me and go, what are you doing here? No, those
Speaker 1: guys are all. He was great everybody. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: cladding my hands along with everybody else. Man, I was like,
Speaker 1: go Nick. She said, ninety degrees in sync Backstreet Boys
Speaker 1: is still totally relevant today, Like literally, ninety degrees just
Speaker 1: released an album. Backstreet Boys are still totally touring and releasing.
Speaker 1: They just were nominated for Grammy a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago and then in Sync. Everybody's just waiting for the reunion. Hm.
Speaker 1: Justin's like, yeah, I don't need that. Oh he was
Speaker 1: involved with Jimberlake. Is insane. Justin Bieber was involved with Timberlake,
Speaker 1: timber he was involved with these these kids. He was insane. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, Well I thought he was in a group
Speaker 1: with Brittany where. Didn't they have like the Brittany and
Speaker 1: Justin O my god, Scott is putting a dagger through
Speaker 1: my nineties, wouldn't Didn't they have like a Sonny and Share?
Speaker 1: Didn't they have their own show like Sonny and Share?
Speaker 1: Justin dated Brittany? Why did they always work Denim together?
Speaker 1: Everybody was warning Denim. That's an iconic photo. But they
Speaker 1: were dating. They weren't a band. They didn't have a
Speaker 1: band together. That was an outfit they wore by choice. Idea.
Speaker 1: I gotta read. I gotta do some reading. Clearly, I
Speaker 1: gotta got brown up on my DOOTI history. Anyway, speaking
Speaker 1: of great singers, Rory and Larla are walking down the
Speaker 1: street and more. Lie is upset about wanting a real
Speaker 1: connection with Emily, and Rory says, can I ask you
Speaker 1: a question? Lorelie says, yes, I would date Steven Tyler? Okay,
Speaker 1: I was. I was debating when, and I'd tell the
Speaker 1: story about right now. But what did What did Rory say?
Speaker 1: Rory says, can I ask you question whose answer wouldn't
Speaker 1: horrify me? So here's what I will say about Steven Tyler.
Speaker 1: Number one, He's the nicest, So I am not I'm
Speaker 1: friendly with Steven Tyler because I also produced Ryan Seacrest show. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Ryan and Stephen our friends. So we were all on
Speaker 1: vacation and like Tahoe together, and I'm very close to
Speaker 1: Steven's manager, So we were having a barbecue, so we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: just come over. So they're gonna come by boat on
Speaker 1: like Tahoe, and we're thinking, like a little I don't
Speaker 1: know why. I just thought it was going to be
Speaker 1: a boat like everyone else has on Mike Tahoe a
Speaker 1: tiny little, tiny boat. We look out the window and
Speaker 1: we're like, that's not a boat, Like that's a yacht.
Speaker 1: Like what's going on? So we call them and we're like,
Speaker 1: do you have a captain on that thing? Like we
Speaker 1: can't park that thing anyway. Long story short, we get
Speaker 1: them off the boat. Even in his like Tahoe casual,
Speaker 1: Stephen is very recognizable. And I'm not making this up.
Speaker 1: We were walking. He's just a regular dude. So we're
Speaker 1: just walking to the market to get hot dogs and
Speaker 1: hot dog buns. I'm not making this up. And straight on,
Speaker 1: a guy, not even a kid, like a man on
Speaker 1: a bike is biking on the path that we're walking
Speaker 1: on and literally saw Steven Tyler and almost fell off
Speaker 1: the bike. People are just like, what is happening? So, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's miss Steven Tyler's story. He's very uh you know,
Speaker 1: he's a man of the people. He likes to be
Speaker 1: out there with the people. Totally. He's not a stuck
Speaker 1: up diva guy here. Yeah, he just he just wanted
Speaker 1: a hot but like he just couldn't have been happier.
Speaker 1: But he he he cannot be inconspicuous, like that's the thing.
Speaker 1: He just is immediately, doesn't matter if there's a hat
Speaker 1: or glasses, nothing. He's one of the great front men
Speaker 1: in rock history. He's not shy. He's not a shy guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: A couple of fun facts about Steven Tyler. He has
Speaker 1: his own line of scarves called rock Scarf, and he
Speaker 1: has sent an interview that he can live off of
Speaker 1: a good compliment for two months. Alright, So our last
Speaker 1: one coming in hot is Emily and Rory talking about
Speaker 1: Charlie's Angels, which we've discussed a little bit, but the
Speaker 1: actual quotes are and he says there are women in
Speaker 1: bikinis on them talking about the plates, and Rory says,
Speaker 1: the original Charlie's Angels, it took us years to complete
Speaker 1: a set. Who's your favorite Angel? Your favorite Charlie's Angel
Speaker 1: of the o G Original Charlie's Angels. Fair Faucet obviously
Speaker 1: me too, Me too. I mean by a mile, by
Speaker 1: a ba jillion miles. All great, They're all great, and
Speaker 1: you know, wow wow wow. But Fara Fause, it was
Speaker 1: agreed Smith is as lovely today as she was in
Speaker 1: the seventies. But if I could ever get my hair
Speaker 1: to look like Farra Faucet, I'd be such a happy
Speaker 1: gala Fara Faucet. I didn't have her poster on my
Speaker 1: bedroom wall, the red bathing suit. Didn't didn't know, but
Speaker 1: I knew people that did. Nor did I. But I
Speaker 1: still love her hair. She was an amazing fun fact
Speaker 1: about that poster um The leading ladies were asked to
Speaker 1: do a promotional poster for the show, but only Fawcett
Speaker 1: agreed to do it, and the poster sold over twelve
Speaker 1: million copies long before the show's pilot episode even hit
Speaker 1: the TV screen. Yeah did she get I guess she
Speaker 1: got a piece of that huh oh yeahbably more red
Speaker 1: bathing suits. Yeah, she's just iconic. I can't I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to start googling photos of her hair right after this.
Speaker 1: The show aired from one and at the time of
Speaker 1: the show was known for having the largest wardrobe budget.
Speaker 1: The show had about two dollars for wardrobe for each episode. Hm,
Speaker 1: back then that was a lot of money. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of like your Gilmore Girls wardrobe budget. Oh wait, no,
Speaker 1: you were like the same shirt in the same my
Speaker 1: budget once once a year. No, No, actually a couple
Speaker 1: of times a year, I would go back to my
Speaker 1: trailer and there would be twenty flannel shirts with a note, Scott,
Speaker 1: please try these on. Let us know what you like.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's that was because I wore my jeans. Now,
Speaker 1: they had the jeans for me that I wore, but
Speaker 1: I wore them home and then I wore That's all
Speaker 1: they did, is I wore those all year. I had
Speaker 1: my my boots that they gave me in a warm home. Right.
Speaker 1: I left the hat there, I left the flannel there.
Speaker 1: It was easy. What a gig, seriously, you had made.
Speaker 1: And it's like if I had to do it the
Speaker 1: second time during the twenty more shirts would be like again,
Speaker 1: you know, and the poor girls, it's like every day
Speaker 1: there's like twenty things I gotta go through and try on.
Speaker 1: And did you have like two of each? Probably because
Speaker 1: if you spill, probably, yeah, I think so, I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they kept it. The budget was pretty tight on your
Speaker 1: your wardrobe, so easy. I didn't cost him much, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you, because they weren't even like the fancy of flannels.
Speaker 1: They were your basic old flannel. Okay, my favorite line.
Speaker 1: I already did and I don't know why it tickled
Speaker 1: me so much, but it's when Kirk's like and laurelized,
Speaker 1: just like you got a cold Kirk. I just for
Speaker 1: some reason, I don't know. It was a great scene.
Speaker 1: You want to try? That was fun about it. I
Speaker 1: was like, one of my favorite Kirk so far. That
Speaker 1: was good, good for a laugh, good for Riley. My
Speaker 1: favorite line is from Laura Laura Lie and she says,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I missed the checkered flag. When did the
Speaker 1: argument start? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. My favorite was already said
Speaker 1: by Emily when she goes about the back backside boys.
Speaker 1: So I'll give you another one. This one's from Laura
Speaker 1: Lae and it's kind of in the beginning of the
Speaker 1: episode as she goes, I don't know, maybe I got
Speaker 1: lost in my big head after they were talking about
Speaker 1: Laura Lee having a big head as a baby. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Wait was this the episode where Luke says,
Speaker 1: here's your breakfast without eyes? Yes, yes, that was the title.
Speaker 1: That's the title we used for this podcast episode. God,
Speaker 1: of course, it's such a good question. Didn't want to
Speaker 1: she w with the eggs on top of a pancakes.
Speaker 1: That was a great bit by the way that whole
Speaker 1: scene was so good. Did you give your amy? Did
Speaker 1: you give your favorite? Yeah, I'm still I am reconsidering
Speaker 1: that it could be here's your breakfast, no eyes. But
Speaker 1: I also like you got a cold Kirk, So this
Speaker 1: one had a lot. You get to go twice. I
Speaker 1: haven't even gone yet. What's what's going on here? It's
Speaker 1: like it's like I'm getting robbed. I mean, it's like,
Speaker 1: where's my opportunity? Just go ahead and step in? Go ahead,
Speaker 1: jesus um, I don't know. I'm on the fence. I
Speaker 1: like I like the I like the Michelle line when
Speaker 1: Run says it wasn't exactly a highlight of my life.
Speaker 1: And then and then Michelle says, and I'm sure there's
Speaker 1: so many from he slays me. That guy slays me. Man,
Speaker 1: he could come on for one scene and just kill me.
Speaker 1: I love that guy. I love that character. Am I
Speaker 1: right that we only have two episodes left of season one?
Speaker 1: I can't even is that true? I think that's right.
Speaker 1: I just can't shack while you wrap it up? That
Speaker 1: is correct? Wow, ladies and gentlemen, what an episode? All right? Kids?
Speaker 1: I think we uh, I think we talked this one
Speaker 1: out pretty good. Huh yeah, and we'll get some feedback
Speaker 1: on those things you do. We need to get we
Speaker 1: rode that hard and put it away. Well, we need
Speaker 1: to get this horse in the barn, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: And it went over. My alarm went off. I got
Speaker 1: bigger fish to fry, buddy, and from my mind, alarm
Speaker 1: tells me bigger fish to fry. All right, all right, everybody,
Speaker 1: thanks for downloaded, Thanks for listening, and you're the best
Speaker 1: fans on the planet. We love you. Keep sending the comments.
Speaker 1: We can take it. We've got thick skins at this point.
Speaker 1: We have leathery, sadly old West skins from your very constructive,
Speaker 1: very very appreciated comments, whether they're negative or positive. We
Speaker 1: don't we don't discriminate. We learn, we evolve, we reconstruct.
Speaker 1: We and next week is P s IL But P
Speaker 1: s L excuse me, what are you talking about? That
Speaker 1: is next week? That's the name of the episode, m
Speaker 1: P s I. Look, what are you even saying? You're
Speaker 1: freaking me out right now. When you watch it, you'll
Speaker 1: find that's the name of the episode. What PS yes?
Speaker 1: Like I love oh p S Okay, So you're speaking
Speaker 1: different language. What the heck you're doing. You need to
Speaker 1: set that alarm off again. Alight, everybody, Thank you, you're
Speaker 1: the best best fans on the planet. And oh man,
Speaker 1: I need to eat some thing. All right, everybody, I
Speaker 1: love everyone. Hello you and uh I'm Scott Patterson. This
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Speaker 1: um and we'll we'll see you next time. I'm Scott
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