Speaker 1: Does anyone else find Jennifer Lopez so much more interesting
Speaker 1: because of Ben Affleck, Like she's the big, mega, glittery,
Speaker 1: shiny pink diamond star, right, But for some reason, he's
Speaker 1: that to me in their relationship, like he's the one
Speaker 1: behind lurking in the shadows that for that reason, my
Speaker 1: eyes are all on him, just his unbothered misshaven zero fox, dispassionate, unflappable,
Speaker 1: usually persona that seems really authentic, the Boston of.
Speaker 2: It all, the Duncan of it all.
Speaker 1: You know, he's that guy in college that just doesn't
Speaker 1: give a shit that the girls like because he's like
Speaker 1: half a mess. I just love it and it's so intriguing,
Speaker 1: and I know firsthand, like I know firsthand that since
Speaker 1: they were broken up, that he was always the one
Speaker 1: that got away, And it really is an amazing story
Speaker 1: that they're back together. And I'm sure it's flawed and imperfect,
Speaker 1: just like every relationship, particularly in our fifties, Like that's
Speaker 1: when you really realize that every relationship has issues and
Speaker 1: is flawed and requires therapy and work, and it's just
Speaker 1: like a different mold than when you're young and everything
Speaker 1: is supposed to be so pristine and perfect and fairy tale.
Speaker 1: And so when the road doesn't take you right on
Speaker 1: that fairy tale, you give up because it takes so
Speaker 1: many years to realize as an adult that with divorce
Speaker 1: and kids and imperfections and careers and loss and money
Speaker 1: and in that case, addiction and all that, that like
Speaker 1: life is just beautifully flawed. And I've heard a lot
Speaker 1: of people talk about that. I recently heard Neil Patrick
Speaker 1: Harris comment on his secret to marriage, which is kind
Speaker 1: of saying that, like, if you think it's going to
Speaker 1: go in one direction, then that's not for you. Like
Speaker 1: the secret to success is that it's not necessarily success,
Speaker 1: that it's imperfect, and that you have to ride the
Speaker 1: roller coaster, which was something in the movie Parenthood. There
Speaker 1: was a movie Parenthood, a Ron Howard movie with Steve
Speaker 1: Martin and a bunch of great actors, and the grandmothers
Speaker 1: explaining that she likes the roller coaster and she's kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, it's an analogy.
Speaker 2: To life, like that the life is life is a
Speaker 2: roller coaster.
Speaker 1: And so Neil Patrick Harris was talking about the secrets
Speaker 1: to his eighteen year relationship and basically, you know, letting
Speaker 1: us know that it's imperfect. And recently Pink was talking
Speaker 1: about her relationship and the twists and turns and when
Speaker 1: she got together with her husband, how she didn't know
Speaker 1: anything about commitment or honor in relationship or probably fidelity.
Speaker 1: And you know, they've been on the road together and
Speaker 1: it's a choice. You just made that choice. So j
Speaker 1: Lo and Ben kind of are imperfect. And I like
Speaker 1: that you sometimes see them seemingly argue on the street,
Speaker 1: even though they're probably not really arguing. I saw Kurt
Speaker 1: Russell and Goldie Hawn recently in an interview saying basically
Speaker 1: the same thing, that like, you're gonna cry, you're gonna laugh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna hate each other, you're going to swell, you know, together,
Speaker 1: and then you're going to pull apart. And I think
Speaker 1: it's the people that have all these high expectations and
Speaker 1: think that it's supposed to be perfect and it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be easy. They're the ones that fail and the
Speaker 1: ones that realize that success is knowing that a relationship
Speaker 1: will be fraught with heartache and some failure, and that
Speaker 1: it's about commitment and stick to itiveness if it's what
Speaker 1: you want and if you're on the same path and
Speaker 1: if it's a common goal and if you want to
Speaker 1: be sitting on the bench next to that person, you
Speaker 1: know when you're lucky enough.
Speaker 2: To be in your eighties.
Speaker 1: It's really that. So there's something about the ben and
Speaker 1: Jen of it that I really like. Like I'm just
Speaker 1: more interested in her now because of him, which is interesting.
Speaker 1: She's always been the peacock, but to me, he's the
Speaker 1: peacock for me in the relationship. I'm just always watching
Speaker 1: what scruffy, you know, sloppy imperfectness he's throwing out there.
Speaker 2: I just like it.
Speaker 1: I just think it's also completely hilarious and ridiculous that
Speaker 1: now he's a recovering addict, she's with him.
Speaker 2: She's never been a drinker.
Speaker 1: Now she has an alcohol brand, and now she's doing
Speaker 1: tequila shots on the Golden Globes red carpet. It makes
Speaker 1: no sense, like either she's doing the shots because she
Speaker 1: wants to prove that she drinks, because she's selling a
Speaker 1: cocktail or it's just a great time to start drinking
Speaker 1: when you're in a relationship with someone who's an addict,
Speaker 1: which almost ruined their career even though you never drank.
Speaker 2: And that was one of your main secrets.
Speaker 1: It's called who the hell knows? Well, we're back in
Speaker 1: the swing of it with twenty twenty four. I do
Speaker 1: feel more renewed than usual. I think it's also getting
Speaker 1: older and wiser and just realizing what's important. But this
Speaker 1: was definitely a positive holiday. It made me want to
Speaker 1: slow down, It made me grateful, It made me really
Speaker 1: appreciate being in the moment with my daughter, loving travel.
Speaker 1: I have so many different New Year's resolutions, which is
Speaker 1: great because I usually have none. I usually don't believe
Speaker 1: in them, but I just feel that I'm in the
Speaker 1: spirit of just wanting to do better and be better.
Speaker 1: And I would say that I want to work less.
Speaker 1: That means working smarter, not harder. It doesn't mean just
Speaker 1: sitting around. It just means sometimes we flap our wings
Speaker 1: and get our feathers all ruffled and get crazy over
Speaker 1: things we don't need to and exhaust ourselves and we
Speaker 1: don't really get more dumb that way. In fact, we
Speaker 1: just exhaust ourselves. So just to work more efficiently, I
Speaker 1: was impulsive over the holiday season. I first took my
Speaker 1: daughter on a trip snowboarding, which was planned, but then
Speaker 1: just in the moment realizing how much I had worked
Speaker 1: this year and how I just felt like I wanted
Speaker 1: to reward myself and her and just be present and
Speaker 1: be grateful and do something really special for us. I
Speaker 1: just said, let's just go you and I to somewhere
Speaker 1: that is clear water. And we ended up going away
Speaker 1: to Turks and Caicos, and I've never really planned a
Speaker 1: trip like the day before. In that manner that was
Speaker 1: really special, and it was kind of like I was
Speaker 1: celebrating my success and being able to do that beforetune
Speaker 1: enough to do that, and that I really am about
Speaker 1: the experience of my daughter more than the spoiling.
Speaker 2: I refuse to have a spoiled.
Speaker 1: Child, and I'm very much on the case of keeping
Speaker 1: her in line and trying to keep her grounded despite
Speaker 1: the amazing opportunities that life with me as a mother
Speaker 1: does provide.
Speaker 2: We were an Aspen.
Speaker 1: I saw the first lunch that Brennan and I had,
Speaker 1: or one of the first lunches, we ran into Kyle's daughters.
Speaker 1: Farah Alexia Portia wasn't there. Sophia was there, and it
Speaker 1: was really nice, Like it's just crazy to run into Farah,
Speaker 1: who's a grown woman who was engaged and has a
Speaker 1: business and is successful, and that I really did know
Speaker 1: when she was four years old. And I can picture
Speaker 1: her with her little short, cute little haircut, giggling and
Speaker 1: thinking I was so funny. When she was four, she
Speaker 1: used to giggle at me because I used to be
Speaker 1: just as crazy as I am now with Kyle, and
Speaker 1: like I was the entertainment committee.
Speaker 2: And I just remember Farah in.
Speaker 1: The back seat of Kyle's big, gigantic Mercedes, like a
Speaker 1: like a big boat that choose to drive, which was
Speaker 1: just funny even then, and Sarah was in the back
Speaker 1: seat and we used to laugh, and we were in
Speaker 1: our twenties, and I think my car at the time
Speaker 1: was a Ford Probe, and oh my god, I remember
Speaker 1: Kyle and I like just going out to nightclubs and
Speaker 1: I remember meeting more Reese and it's just crazy to
Speaker 1: hang out with Farah and then her sisters, and I
Speaker 1: really like all of them. They honestly are sweet, They're charming,
Speaker 1: they're nice girls. They were so sweet to Brin like,
Speaker 1: they have a good energy. It's infectious. It made me
Speaker 1: proud of Kyle as a mom. Like I just I
Speaker 1: like it. I love when I'm an Aspen and I
Speaker 1: run into Kyle and the girls because it's like not
Speaker 1: labs or New York BS, which means probably housewives, BS.
Speaker 2: And entertainment industry.
Speaker 1: It's just like seeing them in Aspen is just a
Speaker 1: different element. It is superficial because it's Aspen, and Aspen
Speaker 1: has a superficial aspect, but in a very fun and
Speaker 1: the best possible way. And so I just like when
Speaker 1: I see Kyle and like, it's just about us as
Speaker 1: women and how many years we've known each other and
Speaker 1: the history, and you know, we both have our guard
Speaker 1: ups sometimes in life because we've both been in this
Speaker 1: space and we've been on different sides of it. And
Speaker 1: she's stayed in this genre for such a long time,
Speaker 1: and as a veteran, and I was, you know, in
Speaker 1: and out and fickle and flippant and obviously rebellious about it.
Speaker 1: I was there earlier than her, but she's stayed much longer,
Speaker 1: and we just come from different sides of it. But
Speaker 1: we have a history long before that, which I find interesting.
Speaker 1: And I think that when we're in the nonsense of
Speaker 1: the media and Instagram and TV shows and talk shows
Speaker 1: and press and nonsense, then it can get into our head.
Speaker 1: But when it's just us and we see each other,
Speaker 1: we always really care about each other, connect with each other,
Speaker 1: and definitely trust each other.
Speaker 2: Like I always am moved by the.
Speaker 1: Fact that I know that Kyle trusts me no matter what.
Speaker 1: There's nothing she wouldn't tell me. And you know, over
Speaker 1: the years since we were in our twenties, there's probably
Speaker 1: almost nothing she hasn't told me.
Speaker 2: And I'm of vault. That's one thing everybody knows.
Speaker 1: And I've said this over and over again, like there
Speaker 1: are people that I've been on the Housewives with that
Speaker 1: I definitely do not care for that. I know things
Speaker 1: about that I would never share, and things about Andy
Speaker 1: and the entertainment industry and the powers that be, And.
Speaker 2: I'm just old school with that.
Speaker 1: I'm not one of these people that would ever show
Speaker 1: someone's texts or dms, Like I don't believe in that.
Speaker 1: I don't believe in screenshotting something someone sent you. I
Speaker 1: just have like a code that is just very very
Speaker 1: old school, maybe growing up at the racetrack. Maybe you know,
Speaker 1: I don't fuck around and snitches get stitches. So yeah,
Speaker 1: and we know a lot on each other and to
Speaker 1: that end, Mauricio was also in Aspen, and it was
Speaker 1: nice to see him. And I'm just, you know, like,
Speaker 1: what goes on between someone and their spouse of several
Speaker 1: decades is really no one else's business. Yes, they're on
Speaker 1: reality shows, Yes they've chosen this path of entertainment. Yes
Speaker 1: they live in LA Yes they're an Aspen and so
Speaker 1: people speculate about them. But I am definitely moved by
Speaker 1: the fact that they have a history together and that
Speaker 1: they together have raised these amazing girls, and that they
Speaker 1: as a unit despite all the individual elements that unit
Speaker 1: is comprised of, they are a family unit, whether now
Speaker 1: traditional or non traditional, which for a long time, I
Speaker 1: haven't really believed in traditional that much. I think it's
Speaker 1: evolved and changed so much because people are realizing that
Speaker 1: they just want to be happy and find their own happiness,
Speaker 1: and people have to be on their own journey while
Speaker 1: realizing that they're in relationship with someone else who's on
Speaker 1: their own journey. So it's sometimes hard for everyone's journey
Speaker 1: to align, and sometimes you get off the road and
Speaker 1: get back on and you know, have differences or find
Speaker 1: each other again, et cetera.
Speaker 2: But I just really like that they are away.
Speaker 1: As a family unit. You know, they glued to each
Speaker 1: other every second. No, but they're grown ass women and
Speaker 1: men with grown ass women children, And I like that
Speaker 1: they will have a family dinner, and I like that
Speaker 1: they have.
Speaker 2: All this history.
Speaker 1: And you do not ever know what's going to happen
Speaker 1: in life, like you really just don't. Who knows what
Speaker 1: happens with Kyle Maurice when they're in their eighties and
Speaker 1: nineties and their kids have their own kids, and Kyle
Speaker 1: and Maurice have grandkids, Like I just respect and honor
Speaker 1: the fact that they've been together for multiple decades, also
Speaker 1: on reality TV, also in LA also in the entertainment industry,
Speaker 1: with high profile families, and they have nice kids who
Speaker 1: I like and who I like to run into. So
Speaker 1: that was something that was really nice for me, just
Speaker 1: to see Kyle and talk to her. And also for
Speaker 1: me like I it's very obvious to everyone around me
Speaker 1: that I just have nothing to prove and there's nothing
Speaker 1: that anybody has that I want, and there's no money
Speaker 1: that can buy me, there's no deal that can buy me.
Speaker 1: I'm really at a place in my life where I'm
Speaker 1: just doing exactly what I want and Kyle and I
Speaker 1: were very honest with each other about different circumstances in
Speaker 1: our lives and careers, and it was just a nice moment.
Speaker 1: So that just felt like really good and clean and connected.
Speaker 1: And like I said, I loved seeing Maurice and proud
Speaker 1: of him and his dancing with the stars and just
Speaker 1: proud of all of that. And it was also nice
Speaker 1: to be there with Brynn because Kyle and her daughters
Speaker 1: love seeing Brynn, and it's just crazy that we both
Speaker 1: have daughters that, you know, minds my younger, but still,
Speaker 1: I mean, Portia is only a year or two older
Speaker 1: than Britain, But you know, I just think there's something
Speaker 1: about that knowing someone for so long and both of
Speaker 1: us having daughters. So it was really nice to see
Speaker 1: them and nostalgic, and I've spent other Christmas Holidays getting
Speaker 1: to spend time with them, and that was definitely a highlight,
Speaker 1: as was the Bomby and me trip to Turks and Caicos.
Speaker 1: And then Paul and I had a really nice grounding
Speaker 1: trip to Puerto Rico, which is also really meaningful for
Speaker 1: me because I did I think it was like fifty
Speaker 1: three planes in and out of Puerto Rico, and I
Speaker 1: did myself so many missions between rescuing people and rescuing
Speaker 1: dogs and being in the mountains and seeing people up
Speaker 1: to their you know, ankles in disgusting, filthy water and
Speaker 1: they had no electricity and they had no clean water,
Speaker 1: and it was a real disaster there, and Hurricane Maria
Speaker 1: decimated that island and they are survivors. And it's nice
Speaker 1: to see the island, albeit a more privileged part of
Speaker 1: the island and at a resort, but just see the
Speaker 1: place in general as a place that's got a spirit
Speaker 1: and a soul and that is thriving and that you know,
Speaker 1: I had to intervene with myself and say it's okay
Speaker 1: to this time enjoy this island for personal reasons and
Speaker 1: you know, like pleasure versus relief work, and to be
Speaker 1: proud of Puerto Ricans for being resilient and fighting back
Speaker 1: and rebuilding and being proud.
Speaker 2: That was a nice finish to the vacation.
Speaker 1: It was really a very indulgent vacation and I just said,
Speaker 1: we're doing it.
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 1: And I had so many different aspects to it, Like
Speaker 1: there was Bret and I and there was cold and
Speaker 1: there was snowboarding and you know, working out, which I
Speaker 1: never really do, and like doing something that exerts yourself more.
Speaker 1: And then there was just pure like three day impulsive
Speaker 1: indulgence with Britain. And then there was connecting with Paul.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm going to travel.
Speaker 2: More and I'm going to enjoy more.
Speaker 1: And I'm unapologetic about wanting to work less, work differently,
Speaker 1: work smarter, not necessarily harder. I have a couple of
Speaker 1: new developments this year, not only in business but in
Speaker 1: personal and real estate.
Speaker 2: I got a place in New York City that I'll
Speaker 2: tell you guys.
Speaker 1: About, and I'm changing locations in the Hamptons for a
Speaker 1: different lifestyle that I'll tell you guys about. But just
Speaker 1: kind of really in the era of doing exactly what
Speaker 1: I want to do and what makes me happy, and
Speaker 1: sticking with my original resolution of not controlling anyone or
Speaker 1: anything else besides myself and of course my daughter, and
Speaker 1: not participating in anything that is soul crushing, like we
Speaker 1: do so many things for other people out of obligation,
Speaker 1: and doing things that we don't want to do that
Speaker 1: are obligations doesn't really serve anyone, certainly, not us, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't even serve other people because you're not doing
Speaker 1: it out.
Speaker 2: Of authenticity and integrity.
Speaker 1: And so to do things out of integrity and with intention,
Speaker 1: to me is something that is really really important. Doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you're selfish and running around not doing things for
Speaker 1: other people. It just means that if you are doing
Speaker 1: things out of truth and not obligation, you'll just be
Speaker 1: a happier person, and the contribution of being happier is
Speaker 1: way greater to society.