1 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: Fish and Filtered Episode seventy. You have a packed episode today, 2 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: a lot to talk about with our bold predictions. We 3 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: did these last year. It was Isaac Elin myself. They 4 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: didn't go too well, you know, that's that's why they're bold. 5 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: You know, we were shooting for the stars. We're gonna 6 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: see what happens. But we're gonna do this again. Each 7 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: of us are gonna have four predictions, and we have 8 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: a special guest on Alex Carver Fish on the Farm. 9 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: So I'm excited to do this, Isaac. We're just less 10 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: than a week away from opening day more or less 11 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: when this comes out. So excited to watch Sandy versus 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: schemes now confirmed by the pirates. So yeah, it should 13 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: be a good It should be a good one. And 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: I'm excited for March twenty seven. 15 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're recording this on Tuesday, March eighteenth. The Marlins 16 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: have about, i want to say, five more spring games, 17 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: not including the Yankee game on March twenty fifth. 18 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 19 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: Really, now's the perfect time to go over these bold predictions. 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: And today we have two of our elder staff members 21 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: are founder mister Eli Sussan and the founder of Fish 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: on the Farm, Alex Carver st It's going to be 23 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: a fun time and it's bold predictions are always a 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: good time, so I'm very excited to get into it. 25 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm glad you said the two most elder members of 26 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: Fish on first, because I think that's how well we'll 27 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: determine the order. We'll go from oldest to youngest. We'll 28 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: start with Carver, then we'll go with Eli Isaac, and 29 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: I'll wrap it up. So we're doing four each, and 30 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: let's make them bold boys. I think we should, uh, 31 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: we should shoot for the stars with all these So 32 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: Carter take us away. 33 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: Wow, thanks for having me on. 34 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 4: I appreciate I know what I would go with, but 35 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: I know that Isaac wants to do it, so I 36 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 4: and he has a little bit more insight than me 37 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 4: because he's watched this guy a little bit. But I 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 4: will go with the guy who's gonna start in the 39 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 4: minor leagues, and I'll go with Augusta Ramirez. 40 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: This is gonna be my first bull prediction. 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 4: Augustin Ramirez will come up this season as soon as 42 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 4: he is eligible, and I will say for my first 43 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 4: bull prediction that he hits twenty home runs in the 44 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 4: major leagues. That is Augusta Ramirez hitting twenty home runs 45 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: for the Marlins powers in the tank. I don't think 46 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 4: he will spend as much time as you guys think 47 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 4: that he will at catcher. I think they're going to 48 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 4: take that defensive burden off of him, and I will 49 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 4: say that he will be in the lineup as a 50 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 4: bat first, and I think that he will hit a 51 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 4: lot of home runs even in Miami. 52 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: I don't care. I don't care. 53 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 4: This guy is a power or first bat that is 54 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: for real. He showed it to Spring with eggs and velocities. 55 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 4: I like Augustin Ramirez in Major League Baseball to hit twenty. 56 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 3: Home runs this season. 57 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 2: Okay, well, well, I'm with you in the sense that 58 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: he's gonna have enough time in the big league to 59 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: accumulate them many home runs. And I think the ballparks 60 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: that they're gonna play in will certainly help, you know, 61 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: all over the nleast, it's pretty hit her friendly for 62 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: especially right handed hitters. So yeah, I like it. I 63 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: have an Augusty Ramirez related prediction, but I might save 64 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: it for the end. 65 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 5: So anyway, Well, on was the time many Marlins rookie 66 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 5: hit twenty plus home Earns as I think. I know 67 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 5: Stanton did it in an abbreviated season, kind of similar 68 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 5: to Augustine. It was fifteen years ago when Stanton hit 69 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 5: twenty two. But there are not a ton of examples, 70 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 5: especially guys that haven't even had a taste of the 71 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 5: big league yet. In his case, where this would be, 72 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 5: it'd be very impressive, and I'm not totally I'm not 73 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 5: against it at all. I could see that possibility happening, 74 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 5: just because for as high as we were last season 75 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 5: on him, I think his stock has only gone up 76 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 5: this spring. The quality of his at bats and the 77 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 5: raw power is awesome. 78 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: Justin Moore in twenty fifteen and this his rookie year. 79 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: He had some cup of coffee at twenty fourteen, but 80 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: in his rookie year, Justin Boor hit twenty three, So 81 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: there you go. 82 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, No, I mean, Augustin's had an awesome spring. 83 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: He showed a lot of capture two defensively, like it's 84 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: improvement there. Honestly, I know you're still not totally convinced, Carver, 85 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: but but I think you know he'll stick there for now. 86 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: They're gonna want him there obviously. I mean, so they 87 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: traded him to do and yeah, he's he's out a 88 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: fun spring, and you know what we're talking about, like 89 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: guys who could potentially, you know, force force the front 90 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: office's hand. I was like, that was one of the 91 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: guy I mentioned, and not that he forced it, but 92 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: he definitely showed that this guy's more than major league ready, 93 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: at least on the offensive side. So Artie Eli take 94 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:26,119 Speaker 1: us away. 95 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 5: I will start with my least bold prediction here. I 96 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 5: want to get one on the board that I think 97 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 5: is reasonably bold, but also one that is more attainable, 98 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 5: and that is Exavier Edwards, building upon his awesome half 99 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 5: season last year over the course of a full season, 100 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 5: putting up at least four wins above replacement. But fan 101 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 5: grafts accounting, now, if you simply double what he did 102 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 5: last year, he gets there. He put up two point 103 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 5: two last year. He could simply double that and he 104 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 5: gets there. The thing is, he hit three twenty eight 105 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 5: last season and his babbit was through the roof. He's 106 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 5: not going to sustain that. I think everybody's in an 107 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 5: agreement on that. Yet, when you look at any projections 108 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 5: on him, the most optimistic one I saw from Steamer 109 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 5: had him at three point two, which is where I 110 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 5: get to this number and feel sufficiently bold. It's well 111 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 5: above any projection. It would also be the highest number 112 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 5: for any Marlin shorts in a season since Hanley Ramirez 113 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 5: going back all that time. 114 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 6: It's even. 115 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 5: Of what Jose Race did in his Marlin season. It's 116 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 5: above anything that Mickey Roe did and his defensively fueled 117 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 5: success during his Marlin tenure. But Edwards, most of this 118 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 5: is about his offense. It's about him still being a 119 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 5: very good hitter. He's been an on base machine in 120 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 5: the spring in a way that I think is somewhat sustainable. 121 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 5: Even if the hits go down, the walks are going 122 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 5: to be there once it gets on. He's a hyper 123 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 5: efficient based dealer. He's been very forthcoming the spring about 124 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 5: how he wants to steal bases just as frequently as 125 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 5: he did last year, which would put on pace to 126 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 5: be one of the league's most valuable base runners in 127 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 5: a way that it is also going to be reflected 128 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 5: in his value. I think his defense is viable at 129 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 5: this point. It did not look pretty for most of the 130 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 5: last year. Even watching as we're recording this the most 131 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 5: recent spring game, there are still times where his arm 132 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 5: strength does hold him back and some of his other 133 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 5: mechanics when it comes to all aspects of being a 134 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 5: shorts up. Yet I think, all things considered, that won't 135 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 5: drag down his value too much. And I think he 136 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 5: gets this number in a way that would probably make 137 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 5: him the most valuable overall position player on the Marlins 138 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 5: this season. 139 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, seventy games last year and he had two more 140 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 4: on Baseball Reference. I don't know what it was on pangraphs. 141 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 3: He said four. 142 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 4: I don't know what was on Panagrafts, but a two 143 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 4: were view war I guess I should say. But yeah, 144 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 4: I definitely could see it. This guy's going to play 145 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 4: the whole year. He's going to be on the Marlins 146 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 4: all year long. That speed is just amazing. I don't 147 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 4: see that diminishing anytime soon in his age twenty five season. 148 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 4: I guess this is coming into so I don't think 149 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 4: that's going to diminish. I think that his defense will 150 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 4: get better, Actually, I really do. I think that his 151 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 4: defense is going to get better, especially as they spends 152 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 4: more time middle endfields, so especially shorts up, so if 153 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 4: he spends a lot of time there, I really do 154 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 4: think that it's not gonna come by way of power. 155 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 4: I really don't think that he's gonna come into a 156 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 4: huge power search. But I do think that with the 157 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 4: multitude of speed that he provides, and if he gets 158 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 4: more comfortable in the infield, which just seems like he 159 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 4: is doing, I like Xavier Edwards, I think he's going 160 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 4: to be the best player on this team. 161 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 3: I can see this happening for sure. 162 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well, two of mine are already taken off 163 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: the board, not exactly the same thing, but two players 164 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: that was focused on it. But I am going to 165 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: go with a Carver aided one. Mister Ryan Weathers rocking 166 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: a new number, rocking a new body. I think that 167 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: he's going to strike out at least two hundred batters 168 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: this inning. I think this is it's a very very 169 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: bold one because even if he's thrown two hundred and 170 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: forty two and he's in his major league career and 171 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: he has not struck out two hundred guys in those innings, 172 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: he struck out only one hundred and ninety eight. So 173 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: this bring he is striking out about her purning. But 174 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: I do think this is all health related. If he 175 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: is healthy he makes twenty eight to thirty two starts. 176 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: I can see a world where he's in the one 177 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: seventy five to one to ninety five range. 178 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: Hence the boldness. 179 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: I'm in a round up and say that he has 180 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: a first two hundred strikeout season since just a few 181 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: years ago when sanduelle Contra had a two hundred strikeout season. 182 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: I won't say two hundred innings is I think that's 183 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: a little bit too bold, But two hundred strikeouts maybe 184 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: average eleven ks per nine. I think it's doable. 185 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 5: Off the top of my head, I think that would 186 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 5: shatter the Marlins. Well, I think it's hasus Lozardo right now. 187 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: Who had two AA and twenty FI. 188 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 5: The first name that came to mind with a lefty 189 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 5: Marlin starter. I don't know what what is wrong with me. 190 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 5: The first thing that came to mind was one Caleb 191 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 5: Smith in twenty nine. He got to a number that 192 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 5: like only al Lader had gone to. So Lizardo shattered that. 193 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 5: But actually wasn't that large long ago that Caleb Smith 194 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 5: was on the short list of lefty strikeout artists in 195 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 5: Marlin's history. So I hope that Weather's I would say 196 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 5: that he is a worthy successor that'd be more impressive, 197 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 5: and I think he has the talent to get there. Yeah, 198 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 5: with the adjustments he's made. 199 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: Alrighty, alrighty. So I'm gonna start with this one. It's 200 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: already bold enough. I think the Marlins will have multiple 201 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: All Stars this season, so Sandy has to be the lock. 202 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: But if another one of these pitchers like a Ryan 203 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: Weathers or you know, Xavier Edwards is having a really 204 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: good year, you never know if they could just slip 205 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: in there. I mean, we saw twenty twenty two they 206 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: had three All Stars and they were not a very 207 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: good baseball team. So I'll go with that. I don't 208 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: we'll see the hits. I mean, Sandy should still be 209 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: on the Marlins by then, and then there's a lot 210 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: of other pitchers that could really make a name for themselves, 211 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: like a Weather's. If Xavier Edwards is having himself a 212 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: nice year, I mean he's got to get in the 213 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: same thing goes with like a more beat. So I 214 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: think they'll have multiple All Stars and representing the Marlins 215 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: in Atlanta this year. 216 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: And I know it won't count technic, but if Sandy 217 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 2: is traded before the All Star game. I will still 218 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: give it to you. I'll still give you Sandy because 219 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 2: I think that counts. 220 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: Alrighty Carver, back to you. 221 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 3: What do I want to go with here? All right, 222 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 3: we'll go with this. 223 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 4: This this one is you guys are gonna say it's 224 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 4: really bold and you're gonna blame it on me loving 225 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 4: this picture. But I do love this picture. I will 226 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 4: say that josh Acnes leads Marlinton saves josh Agnes, who 227 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 4: throws one hundred miles an hour, ninety seven ninety eight 228 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 4: sitting this this picture will come up very shortly. The 229 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 4: Marlins don't have a bonafide closure. I mean you can 230 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: look at Bender, you can look at some other guys 231 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 4: that are on the team, Tonoko, you can look at 232 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 4: some of these other guys. They don't really have a 233 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 4: true closure. I think josh Acnes is a true closure. 234 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 4: So I think that josh Acnes will make his way 235 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 4: with the Jumbo Shrimp to start the season. Unfortunately, that's 236 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 4: what he's gonna have to do. I think he starts 237 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 4: there and is up very shortly as one of the 238 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 4: first guys up and leads the Marlins, who won't have 239 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: a ton of saves but I think he will lead 240 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 4: the Marlins and saves Josh Acnes leads the Marlins and 241 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 4: saves in twenty twenty five. 242 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: I hope you're right. 243 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 5: I yeah, I thought something along those lines, just in 244 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 5: terms of the current options they have in their pen. 245 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 5: Right now, it's really muddled in terms of who's going 246 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 5: to do that. There were times last year where Fouchet 247 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 5: was extremely impressive. Antonoko where right now and both of 248 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 5: them are healthy. There's Anthony Bender in the mix, But 249 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 5: I think for real this time. Schumacher last year would 250 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 5: say that they didn't have a set closer, and then 251 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 5: very early in the year he would settle on somebody. 252 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 5: In this case, it really does feel closer by committee, 253 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 5: at least early on the in the year, until somebody 254 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 5: steps up and fills that void. I was toying round 255 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 5: with the idea of Andrew Nardi, even though he's going 256 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 5: to be out for a while, that once he comes back, 257 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 5: felt like he has the potential to move into that 258 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 5: role by the middle of the year and lead in 259 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 5: this category. With Acnes, it's more of an uphill climb, 260 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 5: just because he still has more to show in the 261 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 5: upper miners. 262 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 6: I think before they give him that opportunity. 263 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not like any of those big time relievers 264 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: are having great springs either in Tinoco and Bender and Fauchet. 265 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: They are struggling. So all right, fair enough. 266 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it supposed to be like one of that Anthony 267 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: Maldonada situation, you know, where he comes up really early 268 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: like you did, and the Factus gets off to that 269 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: type of start that Maldonado did, I mean, and obviously 270 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: performs better than mal Maldonada did. Yeah, I mean he could. 271 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: He could go up there and he could do his thing. 272 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: And that's the guy who throws gas, as carl mentioned, 273 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: and he's in their top thirty. So yeah, good good 274 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: stuff there, Carver. 275 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 5: Already, Eli, I always have to include a negative one 276 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 5: in my bold predictions. I guess this qualifies for the 277 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 5: Marlins pitching staff to allow the most walks in the 278 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 5: National League this year. I made it the National League. 279 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 5: That makes it not quite as bold, just because it 280 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 5: chops out the White Sox. The White Sox far and 281 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 5: away led the majors last year in walks. The Marlins 282 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 5: were high up there. I think they were sixth most 283 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 5: in the big leagues last year and third in the NL, 284 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 5: and I don't think that's going to improve a whole lot. 285 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 5: The thing is, in terms of stuff wise, there's been 286 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 5: a lot of good stories coming out of spring training, 287 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 5: Sandy throwing as hard as ever, Ryan Weathers throwing harder 288 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 5: than ever, etc. I'm just not convinced, looking to cross 289 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 5: this group that the control is all that good. This 290 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 5: kind of branches off of Alex's previous point about his 291 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 5: prediction about Augustine Ramirez spending a lot of time in 292 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 5: the big leagues. I don't have a high regard for 293 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 5: him as a framer or as a receiver in general, 294 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 5: and I think there could be some borderline pitches more 295 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 5: so than usual that go against Marlin's pitchers in these 296 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 5: close counts. We don't have the challenge system yet to 297 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 5: overcome some of those mistakes in a way that I 298 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 5: think is going to add up and make things more difficult. 299 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 5: This is mainly on the pitchers, though, and just the 300 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 5: group that they've assembled when it comes to Sandy, even 301 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 5: with Yuri coming back mid season, with these Tommy John's 302 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 5: survivors and their first year back in action, I think 303 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 5: that is one of the bigger question mark is whether 304 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 5: they can command and really dot their stuff as precisely 305 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 5: as they did before their injury. Even the spring, Ryan 306 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 5: Weathers has been a great story. Ryan Weathers has walked 307 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 5: eight guys in eleven innings or something like that. Not 308 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 5: to mention one of the other ones who's going to 309 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 5: be a staple of this rotation, at least for the 310 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 5: first half of the season, Cal Quantrill. He led the 311 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 5: NL individually in walks last season with the Rockies, and 312 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 5: this spring that continues to be an issue as well. 313 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 5: They're gonna give him a long leash to try to 314 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 5: re establish himself. There's nothing I've seen in camp that 315 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 5: makes you confident that he is going to be all 316 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 5: that efficient. So I think this is a group that 317 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 5: overall has good raw stuff and might actually and should 318 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 5: have better results overall than last year's pitching staff does. 319 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 5: I think this is going to be something that holds 320 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 5: him back. In addition to the other obvious flaws with 321 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 5: this Marlins group, mainly on the position player side, I 322 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 5: think this is an issue on the pitching side in 323 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 5: terms of control, where they're going to be giving out 324 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 5: a lot more free passes than your accustoms is saying, 325 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 5: and it's going to come back to bite them a 326 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 5: little bit. 327 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: All right, my second bold, we're gonna go I made 328 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: a similar one last year about Griff and co nine. 329 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: Oh no, don't take much an. 330 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: Unlikely player to come up and hit a home run. 331 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: Jacob Barry is gonna come up and hit his first 332 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: big league home run in twenty twenty five. He's gonna 333 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: get an opportunity show off some third base skills, maybe 334 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: place int dh first base. I don't know where they're 335 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: gonna put him defensively, but I think they're gonna see him. 336 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: They gotta see all right, six overall pick. We gotta 337 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: see what they have. And he's gonna pull one out 338 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: from the left side of the batter's box. He's gonna 339 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: pull one out at home in Miami. 340 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: Alrighty, Hey, that'll help ELI on the call of contest. 341 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 5: So it will. 342 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, alrighty. I'm gonna go one with Connor Norby. I 343 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: think mister Norby will have himself a thirty thirty season. 344 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: He wanted to thirty home runs either. He said that's 345 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: a goal of his pass berger from last season. And 346 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: you know they've been they've been talking a lot of 347 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: game about the Marlins trying to see a lot more 348 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: basis trying to be all you know, caused some having 349 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: in the bass paths. I could see Norby getting in 350 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: on the action. You know, it says bold as it 351 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: gets with Norby, But Jesus, when was the last time 352 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: one had a thirty thirty season. It's been a very 353 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: long time. 354 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: So Norby, he has never stolen more than sixteen bases 355 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: in his professional career. 356 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: Well, we'll see what happens. He's gonna have one hundred 357 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: and sixty two games to do and hopefully. 358 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I think the thirty home runs is extremely bold, 359 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: much less with the thirty stolen bases, but that's probably 360 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: the definitely the boldest one we have so far. 361 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: So kudos to you. Yeah, there's more where that came from. 362 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: Alrighty Carver, let's do it. 363 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 4: I'll go with hobby er son Noha. Hobby er son 364 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 4: Noha I think spends the whole year on the team. 365 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 4: He is very easy to get into games. I think 366 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 4: he plays in at least one hundred and twenty games. 367 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 4: I would say at least I would say that hobbyer 368 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: Sonoha gets into at least that many games, and I 369 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: think he holds down at least. 370 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: To seventy five batting average. 371 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 4: So I think Javier Sanoah has that easy contact skill. 372 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 4: He's fast, he stills bases. That's beyond the point. But 373 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 4: I think my bold predition for this one is that 374 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 4: he gets into that many games and hits two seventy 375 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 4: five plus. I know nobody likes batting average, but that's 376 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 4: this guy's forte is batting average. He gets on base, 377 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 4: he will play in one hundred and twenty games and hit. 378 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 3: Two seventy five plus. JABERSNOA. It' stun. 379 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 5: All right, It's been interesting from the beginning we're coming 380 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 5: into camp. I didn't think he would be on the roster. 381 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 5: I thought they would go with Ronnie Simon or any 382 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 5: other random utility guy to plug that gap. And as 383 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 5: as spring went along, and we're speaking today, after Ronnie 384 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 5: Simon was officially reassigned to minally camp, which makes it 385 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 5: seemingly a formality that Snoah is going to make the team. 386 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 5: It's it's an interesting spot because the way they developed 387 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 5: him is unique. You just do not see guys all 388 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 5: throughout their minor league career playing three, well more than three, 389 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 5: but generally second days and shortstop and center field basically 390 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 5: in a rotation from a very eight instead of given 391 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 5: an opportunity to settle in somewhere. And he's done it, 392 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 5: and he's performed offensively during the course of it, as 393 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 5: you've spoken to. So that is he's such a fascinating guy, 394 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 5: because I had my doubts about Xavier Edwards when he 395 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 5: was coming up with some of the same offensive profile 396 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 5: where it's a lot of contact but it's very little 397 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 5: power and it's possible to translate. Yeah, with him, there's 398 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 5: not a ton of discipline. It's all about his contact 399 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 5: skills and whether he can put the balls in the 400 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 5: right places. So I'm excited to see that, and I 401 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 5: do think that is sufficiently bold in your return. 402 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 6: Mine is going to be against. 403 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 5: The general assumption that everybody has that it's a ticking time. 404 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 5: It's a ticking clock on Sandy's Marlin's career. I don't 405 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 5: think he gets rung. That's mine. I think Sandy is 406 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 5: staying put at least through the ends of the twenty 407 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 5: twenty five regular season. 408 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 6: It before or that. It's not a lock. 409 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 5: That is command is where it needs to people see 410 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 5: how that plays out. There could be I think there 411 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 5: is a combination of factors where he performs at such 412 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 5: a level and they get the offer that is fair 413 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 5: in order to make that trade in July or even sooner, 414 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 5: the way that Bendix made so many trades last year. 415 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 5: One of the other concerns surrounding this is, as Ken 416 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 5: Rosenthal just reminded the public with the Marlins payroll situation, 417 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 5: Sandy is their highest paid player, and they are already 418 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 5: in the hot water with the players' union by having 419 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 5: the lowest pay roll in the sport, being so far 420 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 5: below what they should be spending based on what they 421 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 5: receive from revenue sharing from other teams. Moving Sandy, whether 422 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 5: it's two thirds of the way through the year or 423 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 5: even earlier. I mean, that's millions of more dollars that 424 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 5: they'd be unloading in. 425 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 6: A particular type of deal. 426 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 5: I just think it will be hard to find a 427 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 5: deal that they're totally comfortable with from a return perspective, 428 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 5: but also one that I think that something in the 429 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 5: back of their minds not going to I don't even 430 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 5: know the exact words to put on this. 431 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 6: Maybe they're not. 432 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 5: Embarrassed by the payroll situation they are putting themselves in 433 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 5: a really that it'd be really hard to defend from 434 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 5: the players Union's perspective if they lower the payroll as 435 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 5: much as they have, given what they're receiving from revenue 436 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 5: sharing and Sandy aside from being their best asset, these 437 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 5: their highest paid guy. Maybe there's a scenario where they 438 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 5: pay out everything he's owed the rest of this year, 439 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 5: and that only increases what they would receive in return 440 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 5: from another team. At the same time, I don't know 441 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 5: if they're going to get a true can't miss future 442 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 5: superstar to headline a package in return, because those guys 443 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 5: so rarely get traded. 444 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 6: In the first place. 445 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 5: It's hard to find common grounds on a player like 446 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 5: this when they still have two and a half years. Well, 447 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 5: at this moment they three years, but even at two 448 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 5: and a half years of club control, of cheap club control, 449 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 5: it is hard to find common ground on these deals. 450 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 5: I'm sure that Bendix is always listening, They're always exploring 451 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 5: having conversations about this type of stuff. I still think 452 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 5: that there's enough things that could go wrong or could 453 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 5: get in the way of the Marlins finding a deal 454 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 5: that they're comfortable with that they just kicked. This count 455 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 5: can down the Road into the off season instead, and 456 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 5: then he likely gets traded there the final year of 457 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 5: the Sandy experience. 458 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 6: But I think he gets all the way through this 459 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 6: season in Miami. 460 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he took mine. 461 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, Isaac, alrighty. I don't know how 462 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 2: confident I am with this one, but I'm gonna stick 463 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: with it. Let me just confirm one thing before we 464 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 2: go with it. Yes, alrighty, let's go. I think Lake 465 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 2: Bakar Boker is gonna lead the Marlins bullpen in f 466 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: war this year. I think that half of the guys 467 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: who I think will have maybe a higher WAR will 468 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: get traded and Fauchet Cronin tooko. I think Baker has 469 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: some special stuff and I think that's someone that is 470 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: gonna be with the team for the whole year, gonna 471 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,479 Speaker 2: be used in a myriad of different ways, and I 472 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 2: think that's someone that is gonna surprise a lot of people. 473 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: He's projected currently by Fangres to have a negative point 474 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 2: one war. I think he produces at least half a 475 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 2: win to a win, and he leads the Marlins bullpen 476 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: in that category. 477 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was pretty good towards the end of the year, 478 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: so that's that's a good one, alrighty, I will go 479 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: with one that I think Carver may take. So I'm 480 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: gonna take it now just in case. Thomas White will 481 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: debut in twenty twenty five with the Marlins. So I, dude, 482 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: the stuff is there. That guy is so good. I mean, 483 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: if the Marlins are well, they will be out of 484 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: it by you know, late into the season. You may 485 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: as well call him up. See what you got. He's 486 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: gonna start in double A. Thomas White will debut with 487 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: the Marlins in twenty twenty five. 488 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say the same thing. 489 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 4: I was actually even gonna say that he would debut 490 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 4: before September, which I think that he could after the deadline. 491 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 4: Like I I think that guy's gonna push us with 492 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 4: so much that the Marlins aren't going to be able 493 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 4: to deny him. So I was gonna say him that 494 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 4: is a great, a great, a great pick. I do 495 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 4: think that Thomas White will be on the Marlins. It 496 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 4: is bold, but I because they don't have any reason 497 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 4: to start the clock, especially in a lost season. But 498 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 4: this organization has proved that if you're ready, they're going 499 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 4: to challenge you. So I like this pick. I think 500 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 4: that it's true. I really do think that Thomas will 501 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 4: be here I think before September, but if it's when 502 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 4: Ross Priss fan whatever, But yeah, there's I don't think 503 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 4: there's any reason to hold this guy back anymore, and 504 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 4: I think they will continue to prove it awesome long. 505 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 4: I mean, he's only going to go to Double A, 506 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 4: presumably go to Double A to start the season, so 507 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 4: it's gonna be his first taste of the Upper Miners. 508 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 4: But this guy's just so far advanced. And I mean 509 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 4: he's hitting one hundred miles an hour, like with the 510 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 4: six stuff that he has, continuing to improve sweeper, all 511 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 4: the stuff that he's doing. 512 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 3: It's it's just great. I mean that this guy is 513 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 3: is so far ahead that I don't think there's a 514 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: reason to hold him back, and I think the Marlins 515 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 3: won't do that. I really don't think the Marlins will 516 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 3: do that. So I like this. It is bold, yes, 517 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 3: but I do like. 518 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: To pick already up here last one Carver, since. 519 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 3: You took that one, I'll go Max Meyer. I love 520 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 3: Max Meyer. 521 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 4: I know Isaac's gonna hate this, but I like Max Meyer. 522 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 4: I think Max Meyer is for real and the improvements 523 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 4: that he's made I think are for real. So all 524 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 4: of mine are going to be player centric. But I 525 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 4: really like Max Meyer. I think he sticks as a 526 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 4: starter the whole year. I think that he has a 527 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 4: sub for R with a lower fit, and I really 528 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 4: do think that his whip will be like under one 529 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 4: point four. So I think this is going to be 530 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 4: a solid pitcher. Put him down for me for a 531 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 4: three point seventy five e R A and a one 532 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 4: point three to five whip. That's going to be my 533 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 4: Max Meyer projection for this season. This guy's going to 534 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 4: be really good. The improvements that he's made are there. 535 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 4: I think that he is solid. So yeah, three point 536 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 4: seventy five R, I think with a lower fit because 537 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 4: I don't think this in field will do him any favors, 538 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 4: but I think that his his his true ability to. 539 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 3: Throw these new pitches are going to be there. 540 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 4: So three point seven five ERA one point three five whip, 541 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 4: which is an underrated stat that I really still go 542 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 4: by for pitchers, especially starters. This is gonna be a 543 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 4: quality starting pitcher for the Marlins. I really do believe 544 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 4: Max Meyer still, even though he's undersized, even though he's 545 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 4: had all these problems with injuries, even. 546 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 3: Though there's so many question marks about him. 547 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 4: Going into the season. I really do believe in these improvements. 548 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 4: I believe in his confidence, which has always been there. 549 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 4: Max Meyer's a stud. He's gonna be good this year. 550 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 5: Fish On First has partnered with About the Fans to 551 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 5: launch a merchandise collection rep the fof logo in more 552 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 5: Marlins inspired apparel. Find it all at About the fans 553 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 5: dot com. 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It's extremely early in spring training. I 564 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 2: like it. I hope, I hope you're right on this one, 565 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: because if they can get some value out of him 566 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 2: one of my bold predictions was gonna be that they 567 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 2: trade him, so I certainly hope that this comes to fruition. 568 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 5: I'll go with a prospect one for my final pick 569 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 5: because I had some overlap with others who've already mentioned 570 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 5: and want to be unique here. Over the course of 571 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 5: the season. I think he could say after the draft 572 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 5: and the trade deadline, I believe that Dylan Head will 573 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 5: be our top rank tomorrowin's hitting prospect. By then, He's 574 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 5: somebody that's kind of fluctuated on our list, and he 575 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 5: was acquired nearly a year ago because of course, he 576 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 5: got injured almost immediately after coming to the Marlins, had surgery, 577 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 5: was gone for a while. 578 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 6: Well, it's pretty impressive this. 579 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 5: Spring, both physically and from what we've been able to 580 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 5: get glimpses of as a hitter, to say nothing of 581 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 5: the plus plus speed that he already has a high 582 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 5: likelihood that he sticks in center field. So knock on wood, 583 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 5: we get a fully healthy year from Head this year, 584 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 5: initially at low A Jupiter as as this would suggest, 585 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 5: I think he gets promoted during the season to Hi 586 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 5: Bullboy at some point and continues to just be a 587 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 5: really great all around player over there. His competition at 588 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 5: this moment, the way that we have it right now 589 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 5: is starblind Caba. We ride ahead of Andrew Salas, and 590 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 5: then Augustine Ramirez, who we all expet to graduate. As 591 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 5: we get deeper into the year, Davidson Dealeles Santos is 592 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 5: up there as well. Joe Mack. We'll see exactly how 593 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 5: soon he graduates. But even assuming that he's prospectialgical, I 594 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 5: think Dylan Head could just surpass him as an overall 595 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 5: player who's even a little bit younger than mac Is. 596 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 5: He's a little bit older than Caba and Salas, but 597 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 5: I think he's he has the potential to be as 598 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 5: good as all of them. So I know that our 599 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 5: vignians internally have kind of bounced around a little bit, 600 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 5: just because it's so hard to in the absence of 601 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 5: information with somebody that just hasn't played very much in 602 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 5: professional baseball to this point due to injuries. Now that 603 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 5: he's fully healthy, I'm really impressed, and I think he's 604 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 5: going to have a breakout year if he hasn't already 605 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 5: broken it. I think's gonna have the kind of year 606 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 5: that makes him a consensus top one hundred overall prospect 607 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 5: in the game and somebody that is right on the 608 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 5: horizon or somebody that we could watch in twenty twenty six. 609 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 5: We're only think twenty twenty seven in the big leagues. 610 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 5: But I think this is going to be really successful 611 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 5: all around here for Dylanhead. 612 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: Don't you don't think you can make it the Double 613 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 2: A this year? 614 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 5: Towards the end the best case scenario, maybe he gets there. Yeah, 615 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 5: it's it's within the realm of possibility. Yeah, I agree 616 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 5: a whole lot of time at HIA. 617 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 4: I think it'll be a slow start, but I don't 618 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 4: disagree with this Bowl prediction. I think it'll be a 619 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 4: slow start, especially with cold weather months. I think he 620 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 4: does start with this sky card, but I think with 621 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 4: cold weather months it'll be unless the Marlins protect him 622 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 4: and put him back in Jupiter and then two months 623 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 4: into the season they put him up there. That could 624 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 4: be the thing too, but it's extremely hard to hit 625 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 4: there early in the season, So I think it starts 626 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 4: slow and then he picks it up. Because this guy 627 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 4: has shown a ton of improvement and I really do 628 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 4: like the bat so physical projections there. He's done a 629 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 4: lot of work in the off season with physicality. I 630 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 4: think he spent the time off well while he was injured, 631 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 4: So I love this pick. I think it is a 632 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 4: bold pick because there are a lot of talented hitting 633 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 4: prospects that have come up in this organization, like Caaba. 634 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 4: There are others as well that are ranked over him 635 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 4: that we have in the top thirty. But I don't 636 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 4: think this is out of the realm of possibility. I 637 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 4: think it's bold because of the trajectory of his season 638 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 4: and where he'll begin versus where he'll go. The Marlins 639 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 4: have a lot of players that barely got time that 640 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 4: are going to need to spend time in Jupiter and 641 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 4: probably get pushed up pretty quickly as well. 642 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 3: So I think this guy, I don't. 643 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 4: Think there's pressure on him to succeed, but I think 644 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 4: that there's roster movement questions that I think that he 645 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 4: will be involved in. So I think that it's definitely 646 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 4: possible that he starts the season. I think he probably 647 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 4: will start the season in Deloit, deal with those cold 648 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 4: weather months, and then probably project from there as one 649 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 4: of the top hitting prospects in the league and in 650 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 4: this organization. 651 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 3: So I like this pick. I think it's really good. 652 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 4: I just think there's a lot of traffic for him 653 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 4: to navigate where Den Orleans won't be able to start 654 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 4: him in Jupiter. 655 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: I think he'll start in Deloit, but we'll see what 656 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 3: happens with that. 657 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 4: But yeah, I really like Dylan had really really has 658 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 4: a ton a ton of potential. Offseason looks good. He 659 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 4: looks good right now physically, he's looked good in camp. 660 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a slow start. I don't 661 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 4: think anybody should read into that, but I think this 662 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 4: is a good pick, a bulb one, but I think it's. 663 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: A good pick. Yeah, and he was one of our 664 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,239 Speaker 1: biggest rises on the list, you know when we did 665 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: this past update, at least on the position player side, 666 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, I do agree that he 667 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: should start in High but they'll probably start him in Jupiter, 668 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: just not just avoid the cold weather. But I was 669 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: talking to someone about this, and it's just like most 670 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's closest to Miami. It's like it makes 671 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: more sense there's gonna be more people there. You know, 672 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: Belloyd's like in the middle of nowhere, so like you 673 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: prefer to have your guys there where there's I don't know, 674 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: it just makes more sense to start them there, and 675 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: again the injury too, so you just want to see 676 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: how he starts. So I like this bold prediction, all right, 677 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: Isaac last one. 678 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 2: He has had an incredible spring training on both sides 679 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: of the ball. Even today he's made some incredible plays. Oh, 680 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out how to put this to 681 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: make it as bold as possible, because I you would 682 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: think it's bold, but I want to add something to it. 683 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: I think Otto Lopez gonna be a Gold Globe finalist 684 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 2: at second base and while also producing at least four 685 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: point zero f war. He grew two point six b 686 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 2: war last year while playing in I think it was 687 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 2: one hundred and nine one hundred and seventeen ball games. 688 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 2: If he really produces offensively the way that he has 689 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,239 Speaker 2: shown a little bit in spring training, a little bit 690 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 2: of muscle, added a little more extra base hit power, 691 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 2: a little bit over the fence power to go along 692 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 2: with his elite second base defense. Up the middle playing 693 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 2: every single day is presumably I don't see why he 694 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 2: can't reach four war. That's a special play. And up 695 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 2: the middle, that's probably the best up the middle tandem 696 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: you've had since Hanley and Ugla there, I say, at 697 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 2: Jabouria d Gordon, it's a it's a pretty nice tandem 698 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 2: they got there. Maybe not great defensively on the short 699 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: up side, but there's two really special players in their 700 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 2: own way. 701 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. 702 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,239 Speaker 4: I just I like Anto and y Ask. You're right 703 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 4: about the defense at the plate. It I just don't 704 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 4: think he walks enough. This is one of my main 705 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 4: things for him. He just doesn't really get on base 706 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 4: enough with walks. And if you're relying on a guy 707 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 4: who is what I mean, he's not a huge dude 708 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 4: at all. I mean, you're relying on this guy who's 709 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 4: kind of lanky, he's a middle infielder, he's five eleven. Like, 710 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,479 Speaker 4: I really don't see him tapping into huge power, especially 711 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 4: in Loan Depot. Maybe in the rest of the Naly 712 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 4: East maybe then yeah, I know they go everywhere. 713 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. 714 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 4: I just don't I don't know if he will do 715 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 4: enough offensively to put up that kind of a de 716 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 4: war or that kind of an f war. But it's 717 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 4: not out of the realm with possibility if he surprises offensively. 718 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 4: So this is definitely a bold prediction for sure. I 719 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 4: just don't see it in the bat. I see it 720 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 4: in the defense. I just don't see it in the bat. 721 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 4: I will stick to what I've always said about this player, 722 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 4: and I like Otto Lopez. On a good team, on 723 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 4: a contending team, he's more of a utility player. I 724 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 4: really do believe that. Yes, the defense is elite, I 725 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 4: understand that, but I think on a contending team and 726 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 4: on a really good team, he's more of a utility 727 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 4: style player. I just don't think he does enough offensively 728 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 4: with the bat. Doesn't walk enough, like I said before, 729 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 4: But it's not out of the realm of possibility. If 730 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 4: he proved me wrong, he could be right. 731 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: He has hit in almost every stop of his professional career. 732 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 2: He has hit pretty well. But I do agree with 733 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: you about the limitations. Can we agree that the Gold 734 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 2: Glove finalist wasn't bold enough, right? 735 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: I was just about to to say he will win 736 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: the Gold Glove and put up four f war That's 737 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: the adjustment I would make for that one. 738 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 4: Now, there's a lot of good infielders in the league, though, 739 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 4: so I don't know if I mean that would have 740 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 4: been old enough as it is to say he will 741 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 4: win the Gold Love. 742 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 3: He should have been a finalist last season, but he was, 743 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think he was right. 744 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean. 745 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 2: Bryce Terrang won it last year and along. I don't 746 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 2: know how all of these grades out, but I think 747 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 2: Google final there's only three of them run. We thought 748 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 2: Miguel Roha is going to be a finalist. It's not 749 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,959 Speaker 2: easy to be a Google finalist, one in the middle 750 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 2: endfield of you know. 751 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I just don't see it offensively. 752 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 4: But if he proves, I mean, he's had a great spring, 753 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 4: so you're right about that, So we'll see what happens 754 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 4: with him. 755 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I still don't know what's make exactly about how 756 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 5: streaky he was offensively last year, where he was very 757 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 5: good for the first couple of months and then he 758 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 5: was the worst hitter on the team for another month 759 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 5: plus stretch right in the middle there, and then at 760 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 5: the end he was better than ever. His last couple 761 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 5: of months were excellent offensively, especially relative the position. All 762 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 5: through it all, the contact hitting is there, and the 763 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 5: athleticism overall is good. Yeah, I'm kind of on the 764 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 5: fence where I think it's reasonable to expect him to 765 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 5: do what he did last season. I'm just not sure 766 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 5: about where that improvement comes from offensively unless someone just 767 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 5: cuts out whatever bothered him in the middle of last year. 768 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 5: But that's something in the middle of last season where 769 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 5: every single at that was a ground ball and sometimes 770 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 5: it was seeing a single and most times it wasn't out. 771 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 5: I think I just have to assume moving forward, he's 772 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 5: gonna be susceptibul to those kind of ebbs and flows again. 773 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 5: But we shall see. 774 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 6: He's very easy to root. 775 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: For alrighty, So I'm gonna have to repeat up layer unfortunately, 776 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,720 Speaker 1: but I think this one will be a little bolder 777 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: than the one ELI did so right now, Juan Pierre 778 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: holds the record for most stolen bases in a single 779 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 1: season in franchise history. I think Xavier Edwards will break 780 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: that record. So the record's currently sixty five. I think 781 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: Edwards surpasses that, so leaying off, he's gonna get on 782 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: base a lot. I think he's gonna do it. I 783 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 1: think it's a really good shot at it. If there's 784 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: anyone who could do it, I think it's him on 785 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: this game. So we'll go with with Edwards breaking the 786 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: stolen base record in a single season in franchise history. 787 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: Love it, Love everything, about it. I wasnna try and 788 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 2: add an Edwards one. I guess we were going to 789 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 2: get a little bit repetitive, but he told us on 790 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 2: media day, Kevin, you were there, his personal goal is 791 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 2: to steal at least sixty bags. I think the question 792 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 2: is does he get on base enough. He definitely did 793 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: last year, but I would like to see that walkway 794 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 2: to prove a little bit. He just hits so much that, yeah, 795 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 2: he's on base percentages through the roof, so yes, as 796 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 2: long as he's hitting and just walking a little bit, 797 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 2: and he shouldn't be on base plenty of times to 798 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 2: reach sixty five. 799 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 4: And you've seen it in camp too, the work that 800 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 4: they're doing with first and secondary leads. I think that 801 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 4: multiple days that I was there this spring, they have 802 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 4: been working on just that, just base running, just first 803 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 4: and secondary leads, which I don't think Edwards has a 804 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 4: ton to work on in that capacity. I just think 805 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 4: he's so fast that he's just an instinctive base runner 806 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,280 Speaker 4: that I think is definitely of this of that peak, 807 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 4: I really do. I think that's sixty five stolen bases though, 808 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 4: no matter who you're talking about, no matter what player 809 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 4: you're talking about, is a a large, a large pedestal 810 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 4: to climb. But I think that amongst anybody on this roster, 811 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 4: I think, and amongst a lot of guys in the 812 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 4: league and a lot of guys that we've seen play 813 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 4: for the Marlins, this player is definitely worthy of it 814 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 4: because he just gets on base so much. As Isaac 815 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 4: just said, so I think it's definitely possible that this 816 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 4: guy has three hundred plus and skills sixty bags. That 817 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 4: would be absolutely amazing. So I think it's a Bowl 818 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 4: prediction because that's a huge pedestal, but a good one. 819 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 5: My hesitation with that is just remembering the season that 820 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 5: Ellie de Lacruz had last year. Early on, it seems 821 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 5: like he was on pace for a hundred. He was 822 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 5: on he was doing what we had not seen anybody 823 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 5: do for decades since like Ricky Anderson, early on he was. 824 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 5: He ends up staying healthy the whole year, He ends 825 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 5: up being a really productive player the entire year. And 826 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 5: do you know where he finished Elie de la Cruz 827 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 5: last year? He finished at sixty seven, and so much 828 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 5: went right for him as an offensive player and health wise, 829 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 5: and it seems like he was going to leave everybody 830 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 5: else in the dust, and yet he winds up right there. 831 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 5: It's been so long, figure about the Marlins, but across 832 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 5: all franchises, it's been so rare for anybody to get 833 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 5: to that number. There's such a big gap between even 834 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 5: like fifty and sixty, there's a limit where just physically 835 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 5: you really feel it. As the season goes on, even 836 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 5: if you were getting on base, the guys just sometimes 837 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 5: subconsciously they just make the decisions that maybe I'm not 838 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 5: going to steal here in August the same way that 839 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 5: it would in April, and it slows down, they'll be 840 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 5: I can see it. It is the fact that is 841 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 5: on his mind tells you something, OLP. But yeah, that 842 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 5: helps that he's actually might go out of his way 843 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 5: to do it even if it's not in the team's 844 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 5: best interest every single time. But I admire that that's 845 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 5: something that makes the season like this more entertaining. That 846 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 5: these players have their own goals in mind that keep 847 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 5: them motivated even during the dog days. 848 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 6: So well, the. 849 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 4: Other thing too about this subject is, yes, this is 850 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 4: a fast player, Yes this is the guy who gets 851 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 4: on BASI. 852 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 3: Yes, this is the guy who has a good contact skill. 853 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 4: His babbit last year was just astronomical, and I don't 854 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 4: even think for a player like this is sustainable. He 855 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 4: babbit three ninety eight, which is insane. Like, I don't 856 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 4: think he's going to repeat a three ninety eight babbit 857 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 4: like that. I don't think that's going to happen. I 858 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 4: think he's closer to what he did in the minors, 859 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 4: which is like a three fifty three sixty, which is 860 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 4: still high but is sustainable for a guy that is 861 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 4: as fast as he is. But to babbit almost four 862 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 4: hundred is not repeatable. So I don't think he's going 863 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 4: to babbit that high, which will probably limit on base 864 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 4: numbers especially. I know a lot of people say that 865 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 4: line of protection is a myth. The Marlins will not 866 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 4: have a ton behind him. I don't think, unfortunately, even 867 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 4: if he leads off, so I think that that's something 868 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,399 Speaker 4: to keep it in mind as well, that maybe he'll 869 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 4: walk a little bit more. 870 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,760 Speaker 3: Maybe you'll have more more. 871 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 4: Opportunity for stile in basis because walk a little bit more, 872 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 4: because they're gonna fitch around him at the top of 873 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 4: the lineup. 874 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:03,919 Speaker 3: That's a possibility too. 875 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 4: I just don't think that he will get on base 876 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 4: nearly as much as he did last year at that 877 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 4: three wor did he hit three twenty eight. I think 878 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 4: that's probably gonna come down. So not to necessarily say 879 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 4: that he can't do three hundred, that's a possibility for 880 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 4: a two contact guy. I just think with that babbot 881 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 4: coming down, less chances on base, especially with the two 882 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 4: contact stuff. I don't think he's gonna walk a totally 883 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 4: much higher amount than he did, even with the line 884 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 4: of protection meaning what it is. So I it's a 885 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,720 Speaker 4: bold prediction for sure, but I would expect his babbitt 886 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 4: definitely to come down, which will limit those chances. 887 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: So before we wrap up, just what other predictions that 888 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: you guys have that you guys may have left on 889 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 1: the back burner. I have a couple of eyesak, I'm 890 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: sure you do as well as Eli, and. 891 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 5: I had a highly specific one that this would be 892 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 5: the year the Marlins throw their first combined no hitter 893 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 5: in team history. They have had six conventional no hitters 894 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 5: at the top of my head, Lighter brown On, Burnett, 895 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 5: ann A. 896 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 2: Baal, Henderson and volcz. 897 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 5: Alvarez and volz So. But all those guys want the 898 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 5: distance in today's day and age. I think this is 899 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 5: an emerging organizational philosophy that where they're gonna maximize the 900 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 5: effectiveness every inning and every picture out there, but not 901 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 5: the longevity that these starters have. 902 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 6: This is a year where. 903 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 5: Even if Sandy is absolutely humming, and even if Ryan 904 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 5: Weathers whoever you want to put in there, is on 905 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 5: top of their game. I don't think we're gonna see 906 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 5: any complete games from Marlin's pitchers. 907 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, no complete games. 908 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 5: I do think there are gonna be situations, and it 909 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 5: even matches up with the negative one I made earlier 910 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 5: where there's gonna be some control issues with this team, 911 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 5: but there're gonna be certain nights where they're just unhittable 912 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 5: with the stuff that they have and all the work 913 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 5: they've put in on pitch design this past off season 914 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 5: is gonna pay off in a way that shuts down 915 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 5: the opposition. So they've never had a combined to no 916 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 5: note in the team's history. They haven't had a no 917 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 5: no at all since volk Is nearly eight years ago 918 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,479 Speaker 5: at this point, and I think I can see several 919 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 5: different guys being at the front of that ed, but 920 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 5: it would be combined effort with a couple of pin 921 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 5: Arms involved. 922 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had. I had another Edwards one just in case. 923 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 1: I said he would win the batting title, so he 924 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 1: would snap Lewis Riise's streak at least on the National 925 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: League side. And then I had that Griffin Conan would 926 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: had twenty five homers, and I said Royn Weathers would 927 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 1: win the cy young but you guys already had her 928 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: Weathers once. I didn't want to repeat that. But any 929 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: any on your end, Isaac. 930 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had another Xavier one as well. I had 931 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 2: him winning the title, and I had him accruing at 932 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,399 Speaker 2: least three war more than Louise Arise in twenty twenty five, 933 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 2: just to you know, there's always these comparisons, so the 934 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 2: anger when a Rise was traded and hey we have 935 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 2: a Rise at home and Xavier Edwards, and I just 936 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 2: want people to realize how much more valuable Xavier Edwards 937 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 2: is than Louise Rise. So I had that one. Once 938 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 2: Eli went with a four war there was no way 939 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 2: for it for me to do that. And the other 940 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 2: one I had was obviously Ramirez receiving NL Rookie of 941 00:42:55,080 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 2: the Year votes. I'm probably gonna quote tweet are a 942 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,919 Speaker 2: report on this with that I do think he's gonna 943 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 2: get Rookie of the Year votes, but Carver took that 944 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 2: one and that was pretty much Yet. 945 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 5: I had another Augustine related one that he was going 946 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 5: to out Homer Jazz, given that they were that jazz. 947 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 2: In that ballpark. 948 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 5: Despite the ballpark is in and even though he's coming 949 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 5: off a career high in Homer's last season, that it 950 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 5: doesn't mean that he's totally passed the injury issues he've 951 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 5: had s had before. And it was even more so, 952 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 5: of course, a flattering prediction for what Augustine is going 953 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 5: to do. Carver put his total over twenty, and I'm 954 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 5: kind of aligned with that, as honestly gets called the 955 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,320 Speaker 5: relatively early in the year. Whether it's the d H 956 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,919 Speaker 5: or catch er both, you guys have known. I haven't 957 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 5: mentioned it too much on this show, but I'm still 958 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 5: a little skeptical about what the Liam Hicks season looks 959 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 5: like as it plays out. It's so hard for guys, 960 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 5: for catchers, especially to skip a whole level and play 961 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 5: in the big leagues and to play only part time 962 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 5: and have success. I think there's a lot of circumstances 963 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 5: that would lead to Augustine coming up early in the year, 964 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 5: playing close to every day and having immediate success. Right there. 965 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: Alrighty, last thing I want to dive into right before 966 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: we wrap up is just the news with Edward who 967 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: will begin the season on the isle. Edward Cabrera tough 968 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,399 Speaker 1: blow obviously, just because you know the stuff is there. 969 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: He struggled a lot this spring, but Connor Gillespie will 970 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: most likely take that spot. We don't need to make 971 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: a corresponding movement. I'm just guessing is once Cabrera officially 972 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 1: goes on the il, they'll just, I believe, add Gillespie 973 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: there for now. But Isaac obviously a tough blow. You 974 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: don't want to start your you know, your season with 975 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: a rotation already down a man. But Glespie's been pretty 976 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,720 Speaker 1: good the spring. He had a pretty good start again 977 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 1: today when we're recording this, so not the worst situation 978 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: that could have happened for the Marlins. But again, this 979 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,439 Speaker 1: is a guy who we'll see. He has to face 980 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 1: the Mets, so you know, if everything lines up as 981 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,280 Speaker 1: we expect. 982 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 2: Death taxes and a weird spring training issue with Edward Cabrera, 983 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 2: whether it's a finger injury or a nail injury or 984 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 2: a visa issues. Something always seems to to go wrong 985 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 2: with edwar Carbrera in the month of March. I don't 986 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 2: know what it is, but once again it has happened 987 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. And you know what, the way 988 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 2: he was pitching prior to the injury. I don't know 989 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 2: if that had anything to do with the way he 990 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 2: was performed, but he just could not get out in 991 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 2: any great for League appearance that he had. He did 992 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 2: not look good. That is someone who President of Baseball 993 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 2: Operations Peter Bendix, was very, very bullish on. He had 994 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 2: high expectations for him. New pitching staff, new coaching staff, 995 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 2: maybe they could unlock it something that mels Ottomeyer couldn't do. 996 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 2: It didn't look like it was going in that direction 997 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 2: all of March. So it is tough just because you 998 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 2: know how special the stuff is. Sanuel contrast, said that 999 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 2: he's got the best stuff on the entire organization. The 1000 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 2: former number one overall prospect just has not gone the 1001 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 2: way any of us thought after a pretty decent twenty 1002 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 2: twenty one rookie campaign. But it's just it's tough to 1003 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 2: see yet another strange injury. As you can see out 1004 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 2: here the inflame nerve in the right biceps in twenty 1005 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 2: twenty one. The b says fatigue in twenty twenty two. 1006 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,800 Speaker 2: He was healthy in twenty three, and then a shoulder 1007 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 2: issue of twenty four and today i'm this year right 1008 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 2: middle finger blister. 1009 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,399 Speaker 1: Wasn't twenty twenty three. The visa well. 1010 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 5: Point about twenty twenty three. That's when he was healthy 1011 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 5: in the opening day rotation. And if you guys remember 1012 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,280 Speaker 5: his first two starts of that year, he walked thirteen 1013 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 5: batters towards. So he was healthy and in the rotation. 1014 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 5: But he just was not effective at least early on 1015 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,919 Speaker 5: in that year. And it was another he got hurt 1016 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 5: in the middle of that year. He's never had none 1017 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 5: of these five years. Will look at the last five 1018 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 5: has he been fully healthy from start to finish. So 1019 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,399 Speaker 5: I've spoken plenty about Edward and my views on him. 1020 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 5: Fortunately in this case, it's not a severe setback. He's 1021 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 5: already throwing again. Should only be a couple starts that 1022 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 5: he misses at the start of the year before he 1023 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 5: builds back up. 1024 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 6: We shall see. 1025 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 5: Just because, as Isaac noted, his effectiveness this spring was awful. 1026 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 5: So assuming that he looks it's more it goes better 1027 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,399 Speaker 5: during this ramp up period. We should see him mid 1028 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 5: April back in this parans rotation again and what is 1029 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 5: yet another make or break year for him, at least 1030 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,919 Speaker 5: as a starter. For sure, he's on a short leash, 1031 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 5: as we've talked about on previous streams, in order to 1032 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 5: prove that he can actually take a step forward after 1033 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 5: really just not doing so the last few years. 1034 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 1: Talk about Connor GILLESPIEK Carver when you're very high on him, No, 1035 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:21,320 Speaker 1: just I mean. 1036 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 3: And it's gonna Is this gonna be a guy that 1037 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 3: wins the Scion Award? 1038 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 5: No? 1039 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 4: But is it this guy that's usable in in rotation 1040 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 4: at the back end of a rotation for especially for 1041 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 4: this team. 1042 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean he's got like four or five pitches. 1043 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 4: He elevates with fastball, cutter, he's you know, down low 1044 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 4: in the zone as you saw today with slider and 1045 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 4: change up. I think it's usable. I don't think this 1046 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 4: guy is going to be guy that blows you away whatsoever. 1047 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 4: But it's usable. And that's what the Marlins need right. 1048 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 3: Now is usable guys that they can save their prospects for. 1049 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 4: I mean, they're they're going to use this guy instead 1050 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,359 Speaker 4: of calling up Snelling and that that's exactly what you need. 1051 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 4: That's exactly what you want out of a guy of 1052 00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 4: this caliber. The Marlins know what they have here. I 1053 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 4: mean this, this zone capacity here, the fact that he 1054 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 4: can go near and in and out of the strike 1055 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 4: zone for strikes and swings and missus five whiffs today. 1056 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 4: That's all you can ask for out of a fifth starter. 1057 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 4: So I think he's fine. I don't think he's a 1058 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 4: cy Young. I don't think he's an ace. I don't 1059 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 4: think he's you know, necessarily a future cornerstone or anything. 1060 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 4: But it's a usable arm right now, and that's what 1061 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 4: the Marlins need, especially as they plug and play because 1062 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,959 Speaker 4: of injuries so and having to and wanting to save 1063 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 4: you know, prospect contracts. So this is fine. It's not 1064 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 4: bad at all. And this guy's earned it, so why 1065 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 4: not have him on the roster. He's earned his spot there. 1066 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 4: He needs to be there, he should be there. This 1067 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 4: is totally fine with me. I I like this guy 1068 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 4: as the fifth starter. 1069 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:41,240 Speaker 3: It's fine. 1070 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: And the last thing I want to quickly touch on 1071 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 1: is that Hazy Sanche's injury left oblique string. He will 1072 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: miss the first full miss four weeks, so technically first 1073 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: two weeks of the season. We'll see what that looks like, 1074 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, as this as progresses. So that kind of 1075 00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,760 Speaker 1: leaves us to an outfield where it'll probably be ConA 1076 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 1: and left, Derek Killing, center, Dan Myers and right, and 1077 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 1: then on the outside looking in, we're still looking at 1078 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 1: you know, Albert Almore, who remains the final outfielder not 1079 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 1: on the forty men. I want to say in camp, 1080 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 1: and this is what I want to talk about real quick, 1081 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 1: because Kyle Stowers has been awful, Like there's no other 1082 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 1: way to say it. In thirty at bats he struck 1083 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 1: out fifteen times. Isaac. I know he've been pretty adamant 1084 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: about it recently. How do you see this all playing out? 1085 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 1: I really find it hard. They won't have Stowars on 1086 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 1: the opening day roster, but I mean, the way he's performed, 1087 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 1: I mean you should keep him down in triple A. 1088 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: And you know al Moore is kind of heated up recently. 1089 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,240 Speaker 1: He could play all three spots. I would perfer Alma 1090 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,479 Speaker 1: over Stours right now, but I don't know if they'll 1091 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:40,799 Speaker 1: do that. 1092 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, there's a couple of things they can 1093 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 2: do here about just regarding Stours, it's been tough to 1094 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,959 Speaker 2: watch because he has gotten on bass. He has drawn 1095 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 2: a good a considerable amount of walks, but if it's 1096 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 2: not a strikeout or a walk, it's directly into the ground. 1097 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 2: He has not come close to an extra base hit 1098 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 2: all spring long. I know they acquired him, obviously he 1099 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 2: was more so about no, but I do think they 1100 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 2: have some sort of stock in this player, even though 1101 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 2: Charter Rodgers didn't really work out that well for Baltimore. 1102 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 2: I don't think it's a four got conclusion that he 1103 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 2: makes his ball club. I think he's got to show something. 1104 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 2: Like Eli said on Twitter earlier, they could do a 1105 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 2: couple of other things. They can have either one of 1106 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 2: Heroberto Hernandez or Ronnie Simon make the club and sort 1107 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 2: of insert hiverys Soinoha to get some corner reps. I 1108 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 2: don't think he's got the arm to play center or 1109 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 2: even right, but you could sort of have him replace 1110 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 2: that little outfield void and just really count on Derek 1111 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,280 Speaker 2: Hill and Dane Myers to to at least tread lightlier 1112 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 2: tread waters because it's gonna be tough the way that 1113 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 2: cal Stars has been hitting its marine training. But the 1114 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 2: more likely scenario, I think Slower's gonna hit a home 1115 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,280 Speaker 2: run the next couple of days and he's gonna. 1116 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 6: Make the club. 1117 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 1: Alrighty, well, we'll wrap it up there, then one more 1118 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: week of spring training games, and then after that, I mean, 1119 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 1: we're back in Miami with Marland's the Yankees. Oh and 1120 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 1: then Marlon's Pirates four game set. I mean, you can 1121 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 1: ask for a better opening day matchup Sandy and Schemes. 1122 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: After that with Mitch Keller, you're gonna have Jerry Jones 1123 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: in there for the Pirates. It'll be a fun first 1124 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: series for sure. Let's hope it's not an OH four 1125 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 1: start for the Marlins. I think I don't think it 1126 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,240 Speaker 1: will be. But already we'll wrap it up here from Isaacy, 1127 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,880 Speaker 1: like Carver myself, we'll see you guys in two weeks. 1128 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 1: Peace out and go Fish