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Speaker 2: What's going on here?

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Speaker 1: Everything is won? I want to run this by it

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Speaker 1: because this is amazing. I mean, you know, sometimes truth

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Speaker 1: is stranger in fiction. They had the Conference USA Basketball

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Speaker 1: tournament yesterday Texas El Paso, the Miners of Texas El

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Speaker 1: happened in that game. I don't know if you heard

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Speaker 1: about this. There was a UTEP fan picked up a

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Speaker 1: don't get it. I read this stuff. I scratched my head.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe it. I don't believe it. Really, you

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Speaker 2: No, But it was a different time than we didn't

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Speaker 2: have access to athletes, and right now, the access that

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Speaker 2: to do those kinds of things. It's I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: I can't even imagine what that is like to have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe you don't remember, but I don't know if,

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Speaker 1: in fact, when you were playing in North Carolina, do

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Speaker 1: least when I went to school, alcohol was prohibited. They

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, it really doesn't make a difference if

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Speaker 1: He turned it around big time this year. But I

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Speaker 1: And speaking of returning, Okay, you know who's back with

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Speaker 1: Now you got a little gift from Bucky and I

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Speaker 1: I met her Boockey wants to take runs. Are the

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Speaker 3: It is?

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Speaker 3: Baby, let's go.

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Speaker 1: Good, well, glad to have you back. Thank goodness you are.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm not even gonna ask the

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You, but good you're back, all right. And you know

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Speaker 1: who's back right now, Max Crosby. He's back playing in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: I was shocked when I heard this, and then after

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Speaker 2: Do you remember Andy, a few years ago when they

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Speaker 2: It never amounted to anything nothing for the Raiders, so

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Speaker 2: they don't. They aren't able to parlay those picks and

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Speaker 2: up to Max Crosby's level. I understand why when people

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Speaker 2: But it's hard to take a proven player and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I look at Max Closy right now. I think one

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Speaker 1: of the problems is a big risk over there. In

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Speaker 1: think one of the reasons why he really want that

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Speaker 1: out of Vegas, not so much because the team was

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Speaker 1: just maybe I'm wrong about that, but I know he

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Speaker 2: I mean there's some of that. Like, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: But I don't know, Man, He's still played well for them.

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Speaker 2: He still continued to play with effort and energy and

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Speaker 2: gave them the production that you wanted from UH an

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Speaker 2: all Pro caliber, Pro Bowl caliber player for the Raiders. Look, man,

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Speaker 2: this is John Spotek Kobiak. This is their opportunity to

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Speaker 2: put their stamp on it. But it's gonna be interesting

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Speaker 2: to kind of see what that is. Oh, let me

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Speaker 2: give you the players that came back from the Raiders

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Speaker 2: for that that that that trade. So Josh Jacobs, good player,

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Speaker 2: Damon Arnett was the other first round pick that they

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Speaker 2: I would say this for the Ravens, they've struggled trying

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Speaker 1: Then they trade Gino Smith, all right, and I don't

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna win this league. And basically Gino would

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Speaker 1: But it just didn't work out. So their track record

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I there, but this is just

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Speaker 2: They're not trying to recycle old coaches, they're not trying

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Speaker 1: Okay, we talked about quarterbacks, and obviously in this league

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Speaker 1: you can't win without a quarterback. We talked about maybe

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Speaker 2: If you're in need of a quarterback, the number one

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Speaker 2: Calimurray's for number one overall pick. He was an offensive

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Speaker 1: I will tell you this much. I mean, I'm with

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Speaker 1: I don't understand how that information gets out, And if

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Speaker 2: That is exactly what happened. And those are the things

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Speaker 2: So he has to do with that.

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Speaker 2: I would say some of that is his fault. He

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Speaker 2: that's all the player needed, for someone to confront him

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Speaker 1: So what I'm hearing from you and I sort of

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Speaker 1: and need quarterbacks right now.

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Speaker 2: This is a really good team, a team that is

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Speaker 2: Is the best situation for Caler Murray there. I would

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why did one of the Minnesota Vikings? Why were

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Speaker 1: I don't understand. I mean, I certainly they still won

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Speaker 1: Why did they think that JJ McCarthy was going to

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, He's the first round pick, so they

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Speaker 1: And last, but not least, before we roll along here,

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Speaker 4: What was it?

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Speaker 1: truly I thought he'd really do gangbusters in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League, and certainly they made him out to be

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Speaker 1: such a mope. That's what they did. They killed him.

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Speaker 1: The media killed Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I would say the media certainly didn't

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Speaker 2: do him any favors, but he gave them a gas.

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Speaker 2: He kind of played into that. So I can't say

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Speaker 2: that they just picked on Kyler Murray because they wanted

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Speaker 2: to pick on him. He has to play better, he

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Speaker 2: what I would say. It's a lot easier to gamble

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Speaker 2: on someone who has shown the ability to play at

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Speaker 2: a high level dan to wait on someone that you're hoping, well,

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Speaker 2: maybe he can do it. We've seen Calamary play at

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Speaker 2: a high level. Now it's about finding a way to

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Speaker 1: the NTAA basketball tournament. But but there's a bigger tournament

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Speaker 1: crowns the new champion has decided, and that's going to

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Speaker 1: be on April the seventh. All right. The Division one

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Speaker 1: men's portal opens for a fifteen day window on the

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Speaker 1: seventh of April. And the coach of UCLA, Mick Cronin,

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Speaker 1: had some comments on it and he said, quote I'm

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Speaker 1: quoting him right now, stop these kids from transferring too

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Speaker 1: much because nobody's going to graduate. How do you like that? Finally,

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Speaker 1: I heard someone in academics, someone in academic I never

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Speaker 1: heard of college president say this, but now a coach

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Speaker 1: is saying that these kids got a graduate. And I wonder, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I wonder if there has been a study of how

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Speaker 1: many kids who have transferred in the portal have gotten

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Speaker 1: their degrees. I doubt, I mean, education has become such

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Speaker 1: a far reaching, I guess integral part of this whole process,

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Speaker 1: and this is college athletics and universities and no one cares.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Krona's going to start a movement here, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Now, it's a self serving thing for him to say that, right,

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Speaker 2: So he's saying, oh, you know what about the kids

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Speaker 2: graduating whatever, But what he's really saying is I need

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Speaker 2: my team to stay around more so I can have

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Speaker 2: more success as a coach. If he was being sincere

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Speaker 2: and honest about that, he would say it like that.

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Speaker 2: But to high behind the guys of education, it sounds good.

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Speaker 2: But does his actions match up to his desires? Meaning

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Speaker 2: does he make sure that all the kids in UCLA

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Speaker 2: are taking steps to get their degree or is it

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Speaker 2: just talk to really fuel his interest to have the

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Speaker 2: better team. I agree with Mick chronic there shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: the freedom in terms of all the transferring or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But until the NCAA into these institutions engage in some

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Speaker 2: kind of collective bargaining agreement because they are treating the

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Speaker 2: students as employees, you can't have it both ways. You

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Speaker 2: can't high behind the guys of amateurism and pay the

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Speaker 2: players but hold him to these standards. If you're not

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Speaker 2: holding your coaches and everybody else, it's the same thing.

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Speaker 2: It just doesn't work because the employees, really they are.

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Speaker 1: I would say this, I think this statement rings a

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Speaker 1: lot of truth what McK corny says. I think it

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Speaker 1: would be more credible if he wasn't a coach. PU

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Speaker 1: You're right, I mean he's saying that for his own

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Speaker 1: self interest. But the point is that he makes a

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Speaker 1: lot of sense in the same token saying that. But again,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think that in my mind, I think

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Speaker 1: that this entire nil transfer portal, the whole deal, has

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Speaker 1: hurt college basketball, hurt college football. And I tell you

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Speaker 1: why I say that. I used to really enjoy watching

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Speaker 1: a kid come in there a freshmen and watching them

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Speaker 1: grow freshman, sophomore, junior, wherever it may be, and have

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Speaker 1: a team formulate a roster. You can't even follow a

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Speaker 1: team with their roster anymore. I mean, it's almost worse

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Speaker 1: than the pros. I mean, there's a bigger turnover in

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Speaker 1: college rosters than the pro rosters. There really is. And

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Speaker 1: maybe you know, I'm just too old fashioned and so

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Speaker 1: used to the way it used to be, But I

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Speaker 1: think there's a lot of people that believe what I

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Speaker 1: believe right now that something has to be done. It

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Speaker 1: can't remain like this. It's not good. And I do

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Speaker 1: believe they should be paid, There's no doubt in my

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Speaker 1: mind they should be paid. But you know it's not

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Speaker 1: fair when you look at the Big East. Bok take

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Speaker 1: a look at the Big East. Three schools are dominating

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Speaker 1: the Big East. Connecticut which lost his state of Marquette, Connecticut, Villanova,

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Speaker 1: and Saint John's. Other than that, there's a vast wasteland

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Speaker 1: in the Big East. Why because those schools spend more

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Speaker 1: money for their players than the other schools. It's as

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Speaker 1: simple as that.

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Speaker 2: So people have to make a decision either they want

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Speaker 2: to play with the big boys or they want to

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Speaker 2: drop down to play with the little boys. But if

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Speaker 2: it's a big boy game, where the dollars are significant

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Speaker 2: and you can't compete, then don't try and play in

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Speaker 2: that level. You have to drop down. And I think

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Speaker 2: people have to confront the harsh financial realities that in

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Speaker 2: today's college football and basketball world you have to have

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Speaker 2: dollars to be able to do it. And I know

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Speaker 2: that the powers that be are relying on an executive

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Speaker 2: order that could be coming down to play from President

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Speaker 2: Trump to slow things down. But here's what I will say,

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Speaker 2: and this is why we're in this predicament. If the powers,

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Speaker 2: meaning the coaches, the athletic directors, the presidents and those

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Speaker 2: things had shared some of the money with the players early,

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Speaker 2: we wouldn't be here. But Reed ultimately led to this situation.

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Speaker 2: Athletic directors, all presidents all this to NC DOUBLEA. They

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Speaker 2: did not want to compensate the players, even though everyone

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Speaker 2: was making boatloads of money off at the back of

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Speaker 2: the players. And so you got to put them and

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Speaker 2: include them in the pie. If you don't want to

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Speaker 2: give them a piece of pie. What you have now

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Speaker 2: is this situation, and it's only going to get worse

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Speaker 2: until they agree to make the players a big part

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Speaker 2: of it, Until they collectively bargain. What the situation is.

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Speaker 2: You can't have a salary cap, You can't have any

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Speaker 2: of those things until you acknowledge that you really are

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Speaker 2: treating these players like employees.

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Speaker 1: Money trump's competitiveness, and what do I mean by that?

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Speaker 1: I would say this. I live in the Midwest, and

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Speaker 1: I've seen the University of Cincinnati change conferences every several years.

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Speaker 1: They've gone a big oh, you name the conference. They

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Speaker 1: were in it, all right, but they were in the

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Speaker 1: American Conference several years ago before they went to the

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Speaker 1: Big Twelve and the American Conference. They dominated the American Conference.

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Speaker 1: But the money, the money trump competition. What do I

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Speaker 1: mean by that? They get a good chunk of change

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Speaker 1: being in the Big twelve. Will they ever be able

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Speaker 1: to be competitive in the Big Twelve? I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: And I hate to say that, I don't think they

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Speaker 1: will be real competitive in it because they don't have

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Speaker 1: the backers, they don't have the alums, they don't have

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Speaker 1: the money. Because when you have a college like a

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Speaker 1: Kansas or Oklahoma or these schools that basically are the

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Speaker 1: prime athletic venue in that marketplace, everybody rallies around them.

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Speaker 1: You have a city like the Cincinnati where they have

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Speaker 1: to compete with another college and Division one with Xavier.

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Speaker 1: They got pro teams like the Cincinnati Raids and the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: It's very difficult to share the wealth in a city

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Speaker 1: like that, So I don't think they could compete. That's

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Speaker 1: my problem. But they love being in that Big twelve

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Speaker 1: because they share the wealth of that conference and the

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Speaker 1: money that that conference generates.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like, yeah, the money's significant. The money

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Speaker 2: is department altering when they have that. That's why they

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Speaker 2: want to participate in those big conferences. They want the

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Speaker 2: big pay day those things. But when it comes to

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Speaker 2: the big payday, there also comes other things that you

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Speaker 2: have to be ready for. And some of that includes, look,

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Speaker 2: having to pay big money for the blue chip players.

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Speaker 2: And if you're not willing to pay big money for

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Speaker 2: the blue chip players, you may have a blue chip

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Speaker 2: player for a year. But he ain't saying because all

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Speaker 2: the players, their agents, their families are chasing the bag.

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Speaker 2: They're looking for the bigger bag, just like me. We

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Speaker 2: could say corporate America. People always looking for the bigger check.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so what does the school like Miami University do

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Speaker 1: That kind of puts a bad news I guess a

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Speaker 1: bad situation for schools that are competing. You can got

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Speaker 1: Miami is like about thirty miles north of the University of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: University of Cincinnati basketball right now is struggling. Bad loss

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Speaker 1: yesterday to TCU. All right, but Miami's thirty one and

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Speaker 1: oh and the athletic threat there since I he's going

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Speaker 1: to say, wait a minute. You know, Miami is undefeated.

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Speaker 1: They got players that the payer not paying them half

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Speaker 1: of what we're paying our guys. I understand that they're

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Speaker 1: not playing the same schedule we're playing, but it certainly

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Speaker 1: looks bad that they're undefeated and we're struggling. Going to

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Speaker 1: be five hundred in the conference, I mean, what kind

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Speaker 1: of pressure is that through? I got to believe that.

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Speaker 1: Right now, the athletic director, John Cunningham University of Cincinnati

639
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Speaker 1: is debating in his own mind whether West Miller is

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Speaker 1: going to return as basketball coach of Cincinnati next year.

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Speaker 1: Five years has never been in the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 2: That's a long time with I've been in the.

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Speaker 1: Tournament, right, I mean, like Miami. The Miami's success I

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Speaker 1: think puts a lot of pressure on his decision. I

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Speaker 1: really believe that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with you, like, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's a long time to not have success. And I look,

648
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Speaker 2: if we're talking about big business, big money business, you

649
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: can't sustain it if you're not in the tournament. You

650
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 2: have to show some level of success. And so becomes

651
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: the chicken or to egg debate what comes first the

652
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: success or A we got to pay the players to

653
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Speaker 2: then have the success. But whatever it is, Cincinnati has

654
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: to make the decision like a lot of other teams

655
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: have to make decisions regarding what is best in terms

656
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Speaker 2: of approaching the building process, the team building process to

657
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Speaker 2: be able to sustain it and make it happen for

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Speaker 2: them for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And the one thing that I understand, I get

660
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Speaker 1: the guys should be paid money. And I understand that

661
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Speaker 1: there're sometimes bigger lums that put up big cash. Why

662
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Speaker 1: they do it, I don't know. You were in Alumba,

663
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Speaker 1: North Carolina. I know you would never put up a diamond.

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Speaker 1: I don't blame you because it's crazy because you put

665
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Speaker 1: up money for a kid. Next thing, you know, the

666
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: kids leaving in New York the creek. But here's the deal.

667
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: The transfer portal they allow a player to find a

668
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Speaker 1: new school every off season. This kid, Chad Baker Mazzara

669
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Speaker 1: was on his fifth school, twenty six years of age,

670
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Speaker 1: fifth school, and last week he parted ways with USC

671
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: and it's unbelievable. There's got to be some sort of

672
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Speaker 1: a rule. I think John callip I already said this,

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Speaker 1: the coach of office. I think about a week or

674
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: two ago that you know, he doesn't mind them transferring,

675
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: but maybe only once one time transfer that shit. And

676
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Speaker 1: I don't understand why you don't sit out that that

677
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: would kind of stop the transferring from year to year.

678
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Speaker 1: How do you go to five schools? How do you

679
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: play at the age of twenty six? I don't understand.

680
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. It really doesn't.

681
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: It doesn't, and it's really hard to deal with. But

682
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Speaker 2: you can't put a cap in a limit on how

683
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: many times a kid can transfer, unless you can put

684
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Speaker 2: a cap in a limit on how many times a

685
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: coach can change teams. You know, see, because what we

686
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: want is one thing for the players, but we don't

687
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: want the same thing for the coaches. And it can't

688
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Speaker 2: be that. If we talk about free enterprise and capitalistic society,

689
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: like it can't work like that. So I hear what

690
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Speaker 2: we're saying, But we're gonna have to take those traditional

691
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: norms and the things that we've been pitched in a

692
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Speaker 2: customer to seeing for the last thirty years. We go

693
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 2: to throw that out the door. That no longer exists

694
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: in this world. And we have to be able to

695
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: give players some freedoms. Now, if we can get to

696
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Speaker 2: the table and negotiate with the players, we can come

697
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Speaker 2: up with some rules that are fair for everybody involved.

698
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: But right now, the power players don't want to negotiate

699
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Speaker 2: with the players who have all the freedoms and should

700
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Speaker 2: have the freedoms. So until we sit down at the

701
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Speaker 2: table and negotiate, yeah, there's nothing. All this is talking.

702
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: It's all one sided. It has to be fair, and

703
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: right now, what people want is a one sided deal

704
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: where the heavy hitters the suits get what they want,

705
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Speaker 2: but the players don't get anything in return.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but we're not seeing coaches bouncing around as much

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Speaker 1: as they did in years pass. I'll tell you why,

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Speaker 1: of course, to the pey.

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00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like the money and no the money though,

710
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: Like you got coaches making thirteen million dollars right thirteen

711
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: million dollars and we have players who are now just

712
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: beginning to get money. But coaches have been making significant

713
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: money for two decades and players haven't been able to

714
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: do anything. Players couldn't go and get like extra stuff

715
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Speaker 2: from the training table or whatever. So if the greedy

716
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: people have been willing to share early, they wouldn't be

717
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: in this situation. So you're not going I'm not going

718
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: to side with them because they could have made it

719
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Speaker 2: a lot easier on themselves early on.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I hear what you're saying. I just want to

721
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Speaker 1: throw this out there and see what you have to

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Speaker 1: say before we roll along here. Okay, basketball players and

723
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: football players are making money. They're making good money. Are

724
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Speaker 1: the swimmers making money? Are the soccer players making money?

725
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Speaker 1: I understand that maybe only the revenue the revenue sports

726
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: are making money. I don't know. But athletes are athletes.

727
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: Everybody puts in time track all right, soccer you name it,

728
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: and hockey? Okay, are those guys making money? We don't

729
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: hear about that. We're about football and basketball. Is it fair?

730
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: You tell of being fair? The coach is making big money, Well,

731
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Speaker 1: let all the athletes make money, and that all the

732
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: athletes don't make money.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well they can make money if so, there's a

734
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Speaker 2: difference between revenue and non revenue. But let's dig deeper.

735
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: Basketball and football, we're funding all those Olympic sports, right Like,

736
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: let's be clear, football and basketball are the money makers

737
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: for the institutions. They have been paying everybody. They've lined

738
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: up everybody's pockets. They've provided opportunities not only for their

739
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: own sports, but for all those other sports that are

740
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: living on the backs of the work of the football

741
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 2: and basketball players. So, yeah, they can make money, but

742
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: they'll make money commiserate with their contributions to the university.

743
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: If they contribute to the university, sure you get money too.

744
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: But if you're not contributing, now, you don't get a

745
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: chance to get a big check. If you're not bringing

746
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,959
Speaker 2: in the type of revenue that brings back big checks

747
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: to the university.

748
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Speaker 1: All right, I hear you. He's bucket books and many throwner.

749
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Speaker 1: We call him Bucky, but really he's the answer man.

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Speaker 1: Why ask Bucky is next? Fox Sports Radio has the

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Speaker 1: coming right up. Good morning, right now, it's Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: Sunday on Fox Plus Radio about ten minutes before the

756
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: top of the hour, make that on the East coast,

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00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: ten minutes before seven am. We moved the clock, of course,

758
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: and we're live from the Fox Plus Radio studios. But

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00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: right now it's type for RAS Bucky and I mean,

760
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: it's time for the Little Dupper. Little Dupper, take it over, Babe.

761
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: What up?

762
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 4: Everybody's time for ask Bucky and Bucky? What's up?

763
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: Man?

764
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Speaker 1: How we doing?

765
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: I'm good, little Dupper? What's going on?

766
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 3: What's going on? We back in the saddle?

767
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 4: Well, I got a specific question for you first before

768
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 4: I read them all down here, but I got one

769
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 4: a Seahawks related one, because you know, mys Seahawks on

770
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl.

771
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: What's up?

772
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 4: But with that said, so we think Kenny Walker is

773
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 4: probably not coming back, probably gonna venture around. I got

774
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 4: a question for you, though, Buck, who do you think

775
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 4: Seattle will be targeting running back wise?

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00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: Uh?

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00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: I think they're actually gonna look for someone in the

778
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: draft and the a few different guys that they could

779
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: maybe target into the second or so around right, And

780
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: because of that. I think that's why they won't. They

781
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: didn't tag them, That's why they'll let them go and

782
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 2: they find one of those young guys to Jaron Price

783
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: from Notre Dame, Emmitt Johnson, Mike Washington, one of those

784
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: backs will probably be in Seattle next year.

785
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 3: I like that answer a lot, I really really do.

786
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 4: I love all those guys that said, let's move on

787
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 4: here to our little ask questions. So, Bucky, you are

788
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: proud to our Heel grad And there seems to be

789
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Speaker 4: some controversy over their basketball home, the Deen Doome, after

790
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 4: forty years of service. The question in Chapel Hill is

791
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 4: renovate or relocate?

792
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 3: Your thoughts, I.

793
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: Would say renovate, but I know there's a big push

794
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: because it's about revenue generation. How do you generate revenue

795
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: where you've got to have luxury suites and boxes in

796
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: those things. That's why there is to push for a

797
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: new modern stadium that has those amenities. But the Dnome

798
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 2: has been there forever. It's an institution. There are a

799
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Speaker 2: lot of old school Carolina people that love it. So

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00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a hard decision for the Carolina people

801
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: to come down on whether the renovator or whether it

802
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 2: get a new spot.

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Speaker 3: Interesting. I like that, all right.

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00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 4: Next question I got for you, So which pro sports

805
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 4: league is more popular, Bucky, the w NBA or the MLS.

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Speaker 3: Which got.

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00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 2: I would say the w NBA is more popular if

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00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: done the right way. MLS I just don't think has

809
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 2: gotten traction, even though I love soccer and that stuff,

810
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 2: it just hasn't. It just hasn't connected for whatever reason.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I like that.

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00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 4: I also agree, I think WNBA is a lot more entertaining,

814
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Speaker 4: at least right now. Also speaking of popular here, so

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Speaker 4: your number one choice of the Whopper, Wendy's Double, or

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Speaker 4: the new McDonald's Arch.

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Speaker 3: What's your new number one? Buck?

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00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: I would say the Whopper Over those things tried and true,

819
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: Let's go with tradition, the Whopper. And the thing about

820
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: the Whopper compared to the other ones, you can always

821
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: get it your way, you know.

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Speaker 1: I try to get the watch the other day. The

823
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: line was so big I just drove away. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I haven't had anyone tried the Arch yet. The new

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Speaker 1: McDonald's Arch.

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Speaker 4: I mean their CEO didn't seem too pleased about it,

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Speaker 4: so I don't know it didn't look very appetizing me.

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Speaker 1: No, I saw a picture of it, that's what I Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's about it though.

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Speaker 4: Anything else, Yeah, I got one more for us. So

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Speaker 4: computers and keyboards killed cursive handwriting. Now, several states are

832
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Speaker 4: requiring schools to start teaching cursive writing to students. New

833
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 4: Jersey and Pennsylvania passed the legislation this year requiring schools

834
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Speaker 4: to teach kids to read and write like their grandparents did.

835
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Speaker 3: Do you agree with that, Bucky?

836
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Speaker 2: Yes, I believe writing is important. You need to be

837
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Speaker 2: able to write, so yes, I believe they should make

838
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: them learn how to write in cursive. They need to

839
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 2: spend more time reading as well.

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Speaker 1: How do you like that?

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00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 3: So I got for you?

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00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: All right, Thank you very much, little dumber. But Bucket

843
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: was there. We need a full report that and so

844
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: much more. Where Fox Bus Are they coming up right here?

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Speaker 2: Next? Oh?

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Speaker 1: The best of the newbies? That's coming right up. Come on, everybody.

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00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,040
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Speaker 1: the one and only mister Bucket Brooks, mister tar Heel, Yes, hello, Buck,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Man? What's having any What have you heard?

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Speaker 1: We talked about this in the s Bucky said, what

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00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: have you heard about that new Dean? Don't perhaps a

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Speaker 1: relocation of the revamping of it. You're in a lumba.

864
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: He's sending up material on that. What's going on?

865
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of conversation discussion about it.

866
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: The financial real of college football basketball makes it where

867
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: you need to have luxury suites in those things so

868
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 2: you can have sponsorship opportunities, you can find a way

869
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: to generate more revenue. However, the nostalgic part of the

870
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: Dean Dome, and the fiscally responsible thing to do is

871
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: probably to renovate an existing building because it doesn't cost

872
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: as much. Given the lore and the history and those things. Man,

873
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: I think it'd be hard for us to get a

874
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: lot of Carolina people to support that, just because that

875
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 2: means so much more to them than some of the

876
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: financial game that would come from a new stadium that's

877
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: at a different part of campus.

878
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: Right, And speaking of stadiums and Baltimore, I just heard

879
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: Steve the Sager at the top of the hour with

880
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: the sports update the Baltimore had a soccer game against

881
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: Miami and Messi was obviously playing for Miami seventy two thousand.

882
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: I mean that doesn't hurt them. I mean, honestly, that's unbelievable.

883
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: Seventy two thousand. I guess just to see Messi, right,

884
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure that was the deal.

885
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 2: Oh, it is just to see Messi, That's that's what

886
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: it is for sure. Wow, he can't command it. But

887
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: the problem with the MLS is they get a lot

888
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: of international stars at the end of their.

889
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: Career, no doubt, so it's different.

890
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: Like they have name value, but they're still not at

891
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 2: the top of their game. And if they were able

892
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: to get those guys early, it'll be fine. But the

893
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: American League that like the MLS is viewed as one

894
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: of the substandard leagues. Everyone goes to Premier League or

895
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: the leagues that play overseas, and we just don't have

896
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 2: that cachet in soccer like some of the other leagues overseas.

897
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: It's funny, it's the same situation. I worked in the

898
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: North American Soccer League, which is no more, and I

899
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 1: was the fourth load of those strikers and they get

900
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: some big names. But at the tail end of their career.

901
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: We had George Best. We had a one eyed goalie.

902
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: It was from England. He was great, Gordon Banks.

903
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: Uh he had one eye.

904
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great. I mean I was the pr guy.

905
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: What a great story he was, Gordon Banks, he had

906
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: one he was blind in one eye and uh he

907
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: was a goalkeeper, the heck of a goalkeeper. But you know,

908
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: a guys, these guys are in the tail end of

909
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: their career. Their best days were in Europe, in England.

910
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: That's you know. George Best was big. He was at

911
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: the Joe Namath of the sport. But when he came

912
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: he only had a couple of years of remaining and

913
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: I had some problems. May he rest in peace, he's gone,

914
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: But very similar to the MLS. They get the guys

915
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: at the tail end of their career, their better days

916
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: are beyond than passed. But they sell and the names

917
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: do sell here and that's why people go see him play.

918
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: And nothing to take away from Messi. I mean, he's

919
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: still he's still got some juice and he's doing well.

920
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: But he's not the Messi that he was five years ago,

921
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: no doubt about that.

922
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 2: No he's not. And yeah, so it's just a different product, right.

923
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you if I can, about

924
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 1: the Combine because it intrigues me, and you were there

925
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: so you could tell me about this, Okay, I want

926
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: to dig a little deeper several things the combine right now.

927
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: Is it more valuable honestly for the players or is

928
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: it more valuable for NFL executives. I never understood that

929
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: the gizmo of the combine. I think the Combine to

930
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: me is like an immedia deal. That's basically what it is.

931
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: You know, keeps the NFL in the limelight, marketing and

932
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: pr that's what it does. It keeps the NFL news alive.

933
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: But who's it more valuable for? Really?

934
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: Originally the value is for the players and the teams.

935
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 2: The players would have an opportunity to showcase their talents

936
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: for all the teams. The teams we get a chance

937
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: to interview the players that they've looked at and studied

938
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: in research over the past couple of years, but this

939
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: would be the first time they have face to face meetings.

940
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: You begin to make decisions off of the game tape,

941
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: the femin evaluation, what you've seen them from a workout perspective,

942
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: but also from the interviews. So it's a million dollar

943
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: job interview that you need to make sure that you

944
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 2: impress to secure your spot in the draft. And what

945
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: has become has become a media event, right This has

946
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: become a made for TV showcase and we've done it

947
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: like because it's popular you think about just college draft

948
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: and mock drafting and those things. It feeds the frenzy

949
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: because we're watching, in essence, a track meet with our

950
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: NFL stars with some football highlights sprinkled in to get

951
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,959
Speaker 2: us excited. And the NFL has done a great job

952
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 2: of keeping fans' interests twenty four to seven, three sixty five.

953
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: There's always an event designed to keep your eyes on

954
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 2: the National Football League. There's no other league that can

955
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 2: say or do what the NFL does when it comes

956
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: to that.

957
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: You know, I can't believe that the league executives are

958
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: that smart, but it just happened to work out that way.

959
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: They decided to have a combine. They got it done.

960
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: But obviously every several weeks there's an event that keeps

961
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: the NFL in the news, kind of like a soap opera. Really,

962
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: but what would NFL life be like if they didn't

963
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: have the combine? You know, who would it hurt? Would

964
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 1: it hurt ownership, would it hurt executive scouts or would

965
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: it hurt the players more if they just did away

966
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: with it because I had been some talk, but that

967
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: may not have the combine anymore, right, and not having

968
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: at least in Indianapolis, which I think is a great

969
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: place because it's in the middle of the country.

970
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been some talk about it moving around, but

971
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: india is such a great place because everything essentially located.

972
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: You can get in and out of the hospitals, you

973
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: can house all the players and the NFL personnel that's

974
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: in town downtown. It's a walkable city. Given their understanding

975
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: of conventions and how to entertain people, they do a

976
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: really good job. It's cookie cutter. It's easy to do

977
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: those things, so I expect it always to be there,

978
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: even though moving into a different locale. Jerry Jones has

979
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 2: always wanted to see if he can move it to Frisco,

980
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 2: Texas at their facility because they have a similar infrastructure,

981
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: but it would be very lucrative for him to have it.

982
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: There have been other cities that have been discussed because

983
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: a what about a sunset background to put with the event?

984
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: Would that be more pro visually appealing to view So

985
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff, but at the end of

986
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: the day, it's really a football event and we need

987
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: to keep the main thing the main thing. Make it

988
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: about football, not about all the other stuff.

989
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going back to NFL dot Congress. I always

990
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: read Bucket books at NFL dot com, and you picked

991
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six l NFL Scouting Combine team, which

992
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: I had never seen anybody do. I think you're a

993
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: first has ever done that. What happens, though, buck If

994
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: a player doesn't attend to combine and he's invited to

995
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: the combine and he says I ain't gone, what happens

996
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: to that player? How much would it hurt him or

997
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: would it hurt him?

998
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 2: I mean, like if you go and not work out,

999
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: like that's one thing, but you need to do the

1000
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 2: interviews because they have to get a couple of things done.

1001
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 2: They need to talk to you, and they need you

1002
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: to go through a medical evaluation like that has to happen.

1003
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: That's a non negotiable. So the combine is the easiest

1004
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: place to do it. You have to get all those

1005
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: things done. So that's it. If you don't want to

1006
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: work out or whatever. We've seen guys kind of skirt

1007
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: it and avoid it with out I would say penalty

1008
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 2: in like the new era. So we'll see if people

1009
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 2: will continue to do it. But yeah, like it's one

1010
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 2: of those things like it's your choice to participate or not.

1011
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: But choices sometimes do come with consequences. So choose was washing?

1012
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: And how do you get invited in? How many players

1013
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have this number offhand, but

1014
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: how many players in your mind have gotten drafted in

1015
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft that have not attended the combine?

1016
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 2: Not many? I mean, I mean, don't take that. I'll

1017
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 2: take that back. There have been players that have been drafted, right,

1018
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: every year we see players who didn't get a Combine invite,

1019
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: but they are either drafted undrafted free agents. In those things,

1020
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 2: there's a saying in the league that hey, man, if

1021
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 2: you can play, we'll find you. And scouts typically find

1022
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: players you know, you hear about them, you see them,

1023
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: you find a way to track them down in those things.

1024
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: The Combined does a good job of bringing over three

1025
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: hundred plus players to the event to give them a

1026
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 2: chance to have the interviews, go through the medical stuff

1027
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: and the like. So it's rare that you miss out

1028
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 2: on someone, but it's important that you get all that

1029
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 2: information because you make those draft decisions based on what

1030
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 2: you know about those players.

1031
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: You know, right, we hear about the players all time.

1032
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: Let me ask about the front office staff of various

1033
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:28,479
Speaker 1: NFL teams. How many do attend? Is the head coach,

1034
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 1: I'm sure I head coach of every team? Is there?

1035
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: Personnel director? Scouts from every team? Of there? About how many?

1036
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 1: How many people make up a contingent of an NFL

1037
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: party that attends to Combine a dozen? Half dozen? How

1038
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: many people do that? Like you go with Jacksonville, how

1039
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: many Jacksonville staffers were there?

1040
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: Well, there are a lot of Jacksonville staffords. But the

1041
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 2: news that came out of there, Jacksonville's head coach, general manager,

1042
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 2: and EVP executive vice president didn't show up, and people

1043
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: are wondering, why w those guys not go to the event. Well,

1044
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 2: the LA RAMS and other teams from the Tree have

1045
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: bypassed the event because they say they're trying to eliminate

1046
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 2: some of the biases that can take place when you go.

1047
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: They have boots on the ground many they have lower

1048
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 2: level staff personnel on the ground conducting interviews, doing some

1049
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 2: of the grunt work, but the decision makers are back

1050
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 2: in their offices taking care of business. Because remember, a

1051
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: couple of things are working at the same time. You

1052
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: got free agency, got a kickoff this week, and that

1053
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 2: is beginning. You're beginning to prep for that during the combine.

1054
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 2: So if you're at the combine, it takes your way

1055
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: from fully being able to prepare for free agency. The

1056
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 2: other part of it is sitting down with the interviews.

1057
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 2: You only get to sit to get fifteen minutes. Do

1058
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: I want to go out there, Do I want to

1059
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: disrupt my off season planning to participate in that, or

1060
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: can I look at the videos or zoom in and

1061
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 2: do some other things that will also allow me to

1062
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: be productive. That's what you have. But most teams, old

1063
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 2: school team, they're sitting everybody man. They're in their their

1064
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 2: their scouting staff from the college side, just ending their directors,

1065
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 2: college director, general managers and all that. They're all in

1066
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: attendance so they can have a good feel for what

1067
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: the player is like and what we potentially could be

1068
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: bringing them in.

1069
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: Let me stop you for a secments. You mentioned the

1070
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: term they'll send a lot of people Jackson over goes

1071
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: a bias. What does that mean? What do you mean

1072
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: by bias? I mean the notion of a various player,

1073
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: and they may change their mind by seeing that player.

1074
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 2: Yes, because everything that we talk about at the workout

1075
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 2: is basically attract me. And sometimes you ignore what a

1076
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 2: person has done as a player because he's such a

1077
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: dynamic athlete who shines in this version of a track meet.

1078
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Speaker 2: What some are trying to do is eliminate that have

1079
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: their grades in before this part so you're not swayed

1080
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 2: by performance. That leads you to look at the tape

1081
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 2: differently because you know, I know his speed, so he's

1082
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 2: playing faster. It can warp your sensibility when it comes

1083
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 2: to the evaluation after the combine when you see it,

1084
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 2: they're trying to eliminate some of those things as they're

1085
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: working through the board.

1086
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: All right, So help me out here now, because I

1087
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: know a lot of these colleges have what they call

1088
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: a pro day. What's the difference between a pro day

1089
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: and the combine? And do the same players who attend

1090
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: the combine have that pro day. Help me out with that.

1091
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 2: Well, pro day is on the player's campus and he'll

1092
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: go through it with all the scout I mean, the

1093
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: scals from the area and attendance. The problem with the

1094
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 2: pro day, you're not going to get the nine hundred

1095
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 2: NFL officials to your one pro day. There are multiple

1096
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: pro days going on at the same time. The benefits

1097
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 2: of the combine everybody that's worth anything in the league

1098
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: is there, so you have an opportunity to maximize your

1099
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: chances of playing about working out in front of everybody.

1100
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 2: When you do it at your pro day, only a

1101
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 2: limited number of people are there and you don't have

1102
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:03,439
Speaker 2: the same kind of influence evaluators and attendance that can

1103
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 2: boost your chances of being drafted.

1104
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: Okay, so the combine is basically headed up by the NFL.

1105
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: The NFL invites you, you go there. How does the

1106
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: pro day work? If I'm a college quarterback, I'm a senior,

1107
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to be drafted. I say I want to

1108
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: have a pro day? What do I do? I hire

1109
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: an agent. He does that and he sends notes out

1110
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: the emails all the NFL clubs. That's such and such

1111
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: as having a pro day. How does the pro day work?

1112
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 2: This is the caountar that that is set up and

1113
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: goes down and a lot of times that calendar is

1114
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: set while the guys are here at the combine. So

1115
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 2: they announced when everyone's pro day is. As a scout,

1116
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 2: you put those dates on the calendar and you make

1117
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 2: your schedule based on those pro days. But it's an

1118
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: event that is Yeah, it's an event that is set

1119
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 2: up and orchestrated by the college. They set that up. Hey,

1120
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: when we're going to do the days, and they try

1121
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: and do it in conjunction with other schools in the

1122
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: area going so you can get maximum viewing from everybody.

1123
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 2: Everybody that is somebody will kind of make their way through.

1124
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: Okay, but the pro day, Let's say, if I'm a quarterback,

1125
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: the Pro Day, they're not going through the forty odd dash,

1126
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: and then they're not doing the long jump and the

1127
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: broad jump and anything like that. Just throwing the football.

1128
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: I guess their intended receiver. That's what they're doing. A

1129
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: Pro day right now, you're doing everything.

1130
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 2: You're doing all that you see, Yeah, you're doing all

1131
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: that other stuff. And then what you're doing is you're

1132
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 2: doing some things that may be specific to the teams

1133
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: that are in attendance. Meaning I am with the Carolina

1134
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 2: Panthers who say we need a quarterback. All right, Well,

1135
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,959
Speaker 2: after the workout a quarterback, I want you to work

1136
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 2: on these things. I want to see these things from you.

1137
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 2: So that's the difference. In a pro day. Pro Day,

1138
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: it's a little more tailored. It was very general to combine.

1139
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 2: This is more specific to a team, and it becomes

1140
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: even more specific when it's a private workout, one team,

1141
00:55:58,880 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: one player working out.

1142
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm having a if I go to the Combine,

1143
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: all the thirty two clubs are going to watch me

1144
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: work out. But if if I have a Pro Day,

1145
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: there's a good chance maybe two or three is that it.

1146
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: How does that work depends?

1147
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 2: It depends on the schedule depends on what's going on.

1148
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 2: Let's say you're there in Cincinnati. Cincinnati would be wise

1149
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: to put their pro day the same week of Ohio State.

1150
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 2: Ohio State is always going to attract a bunch of scouts,

1151
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 2: So I want to go the next day, either before

1152
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: or after Ohio State, so I can have that contingent

1153
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 2: make their way to Cincinnati. So it's about being aware,

1154
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 2: a who are the big fish? Ohio State is the

1155
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: biggest fish in that state, So you want to make

1156
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 2: sure you go when they go because it gives you

1157
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: a chance to get everybody there.

1158
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 1: All right, Now, you you did pick like an old

1159
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: combine team, And honestly, there's tail and Green. I mean

1160
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: you talk about some guy who came out of no

1161
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: came out of left field, the quarterback ont Arkansas. I

1162
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: mean he did well for himself at the Combine, didn't

1163
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: them mean as far as what he did is the

1164
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: forty dash and things like that. Tailor and Green did

1165
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: he have a great year at Arkansas? I mean he

1166
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: was kind of overlooked. I would think now all of

1167
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: a sudden people are talking about Tailing Green is a

1168
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: possible first round pick because the quarterback class coming out

1169
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: this year is not that strong, right.

1170
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not gonna be a first round pick. He's

1171
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: a whole forulhim. He was inconsistent throughout a time. But

1172
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 2: the numbers are soiled, right. He had over ninety total touchdowns.

1173
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 2: He had thirty five rushing touchdowns, which is a big

1174
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 2: part of that number. He's a dual threat playmaker. And

1175
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 2: you saw with that size being over sixty five, that

1176
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 2: speed for three seven forty three vertical jump eleven to

1177
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: two broads up. All those numbers are ridiculous. There's gonna

1178
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 2: be a team that says, hey, man, come here and

1179
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: try and play quarterback. But if quarterback doesn't work, man,

1180
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,919
Speaker 2: you sure have the potential to maybe be a good

1181
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 2: wide receiver. They's see if we can make you a slash.

1182
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: Okay, now you would say this and this is the

1183
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: way my mind works. Okay. Taylor Green is okay, and

1184
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna get drafted. He's going to get a pro contract,

1185
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, be a receiver, quarterback, whatever it

1186
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: might be. But he's somewhat lucky that Julian saying the

1187
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: quarterback of Ohio State's only a sophomore and wasn't there,

1188
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: don't you agree. I mean you gotta be a little

1189
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: lucky too with the people who are in your class.

1190
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some of that, and there's some people to

1191
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: say that's why Todd Simpson came out this year as

1192
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 2: opposed to waiting really to get more experience. Yeah, with

1193
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 2: all the quarterbacks that can come out next year, meaning

1194
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 2: Dante Moore, whoever, Leonori. So I mean there's so many

1195
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: guys that can come on next year that he's saying, no, no, no,

1196
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 2: I take my chances this year and see what happens

1197
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 2: because next year, a crowded bunch he had lost in

1198
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 2: the shuffle.

1199
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: Wow, he right about that. Okay, running back, I think

1200
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: hands down you knew this back by Thanksgiving that Jeremiah

1201
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: Love was the guy, and I mean a tremendous running back.

1202
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 1: And whether it gets him, you know, they're somewhat lucky. Really,

1203
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: I think he's the guy, right.

1204
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, to a point. But no one knew that he

1205
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 2: was dis explosive. Everyone knew he was a really good

1206
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 2: football player, right, Like, there's no disputing that you saw

1207
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: for two years back to back thousand yard seasons, the

1208
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 2: way that he put the ball in the paint consistently

1209
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 2: from everywhere you knew he was pretty special. But what

1210
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: you didn't know is the athlete that showed up four

1211
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 2: to three seven is real. Watch him go through drills.

1212
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 2: The jump cut that he has is special. Reminds me

1213
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 2: of a lot of the way Ladany Thomason used to

1214
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 2: get through the whole. He is fantastic, catches the ball

1215
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 2: out the backfield. He's about as complete as they come

1216
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 2: as a running back prospect.

1217
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: Interesting. I want to go to wide receiver, and to me,

1218
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: probably the best wide receiver in the country right now

1219
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: is a softbow. But my name of Jeremiah Smith from

1220
00:59:55,720 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: Ohio State. So compare Zachariah Branch from Georgia to to Smith,

1221
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: I mean in the same league. Or is Smith head

1222
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: and shoulders above him? How does that work? Because you

1223
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: have a Branch as your old combine receiver, I.

1224
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 2: Would say, like the thing about Branch is he is

1225
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 2: super explosive for a four three five dynamic as a

1226
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 2: wide receiver in terms of catch and run a building

1227
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 2: and at the combine he showed up and showed out

1228
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: forty times. The way he went through drills, all of

1229
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: that may be exceeded expectations for me in terms of

1230
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 2: who he is and what he can be as a player.

1231
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: Interesting, you know, and you also have a kid from

1232
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: Georgia State, Ted Hurst, And when I see that, I

1233
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: have a big question mark. And I'm sure I'm not

1234
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,959
Speaker 1: the only one. And I wonder if NFL scouts feel

1235
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: the same way the competition he's playing against. You know,

1236
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: you hate to put that on a kid if he's

1237
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: got great skill and he's a good skill level guy.

1238
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: But Georgia State is not the same schedule as George.

1239
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: I think it's a major difference there.

1240
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Georgia. I mean it's a difference. You know,

1241
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 2: we talked about Georgia State and uh, you know the

1242
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 2: other thing. But what you gotta do is you gotta

1243
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: be a dominant player. And he had an opportunity to

1244
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 2: be a dominant player because he showed up at the

1245
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 2: Senior Bowl and had success. So the questions that I

1246
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 2: normally would have, I'm not gonna have about him just

1247
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 2: because he played really well when he got his chance

1248
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl and he's checked the boxes every

1249
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 2: step of the way.

1250
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: All right, I hear what you're saying. I don't think

1251
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: anybody else picked an Old Combine team except Bucket Brooks

1252
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: and that's what we got into that today. And if

1253
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: you're interested at Bucket Brooks on X had Ainy furm

1254
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,640
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Speaker 1: talk about time in a second course. The numbers are

1269
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: the same, but the time is getting there difference. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's next, All right? Time was the winner. That's right

1271
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: around the corner East Bucket Brooks he's a winner. I'm

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01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,320
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Speaker 1: you and a coming up in about ten minutes from now.

1283
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Speaker 1: But right now, let's talk records. Let's talk NBA records

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Speaker 1: if we can right now, and we're gonna do it, Okay,

1285
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Speaker 1: and Bucket, I'm gonna tell you, I think you know

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Speaker 1: that I've always been critical when people talk about NFL

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Speaker 1: rushing records gaining one thousand yards in the season and

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Speaker 1: that they always say that's the benchmark, but it's seventeen games, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Jim Brown, I did this research, believe it or not.

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Speaker 1: I did. Jim Brown in nineteen fifty eight game one

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Speaker 1: thousand five hundred and twenty seven yards in twelve games,

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Speaker 1: in twelve games. A year later in fifty nine, they

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Speaker 1: had thirteen hundred and twenty nine yards in twelve games.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty twelve hundred and fifty seven yards twelve games. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So when they say a guy rushes for one thousand

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Speaker 1: yards in seventeen games, I'm not that impressed. You know,

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Speaker 1: they got to change that a little bit. They talk

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Speaker 1: about records, put a little asterisk next to it. Really,

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Speaker 1: Jim Brown was the more I read about Jim Brown

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01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: and what he did back then, it's bigger now than

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Speaker 1: it was then because now then they've got a big

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Speaker 1: deal about one thousand yards and seventeen games. He did

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Speaker 1: it in twelve twelve games. Amazing, Yeah, amazing.

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Speaker 2: And that's what's hard about today's record keeping. It's not

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01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 2: a level playing field, right, So you went from twelve

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01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 2: fourteen to sixteen now seventeen games. Those old records are

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01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 2: look there, they're falling. They're falling because people are playing

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01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 2: more games, more ball. So you have to put an

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Speaker 2: ask you by there if you could put little different

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Speaker 2: designations depending on what the minimum game or what the

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Speaker 2: schedule was, the length of the season. To me, that

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Speaker 2: would help because even the wide receiver record that's undersawt.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about Cooper Cup and some of these guys. Man,

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Speaker 2: it's skewed because of the additional amount of games that

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Speaker 2: you have.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, I think the average fan doesn't care.

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Speaker 1: You know, you talk about it. Media don't even care.

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Speaker 1: I mean they don't. It's just it's a Record's a record,

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Speaker 1: that's what it is. Okay. And the other day, Lebron James,

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Speaker 1: he broke a record in the National Basketball Association. No,

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Speaker 1: he's already scored the most points in NBA history. Now

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Speaker 1: he's made the most baskets field goals, And we take

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01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: a closer look right now. Who was Thursday night against

1324
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: Denver and the Lakers lost won twenty one to thirteen.

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Speaker 1: He made field goal number fifteen, eight hundred and thirty eight,

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Speaker 1: passing Kareem for the most field goals made an NBA history.

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01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: Now Lebron passed Kareem as a leading scorer back in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, even thirty eight thousand, three hundred eighty

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01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: eight points. He now has more than forty three thousand.

1330
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Speaker 1: But I want to take a closer look, right now

1331
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: because Lebron he's still playing obviously twenty three seasons in

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01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: the NBA. Kareem only played twenty seasons. All right, there's

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01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: a difference. But I checked a little further and as

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01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: of the sixth of March, Lebron has played one thousand,

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Speaker 1: six hundred six games. Kareem did it at one five

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty games. Is it a real record? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Then mayke a big deal about it. I

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01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: just think that time is a fact that when Lebron

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01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: has played more games, played three more years in Kareem

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Speaker 1: and now he's got the record, something has to be changed. Really,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I get crazy over nil. I think I'm

1342
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: crazier over this with statistics because it's not accurate. It

1343
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: really is. It's not fair. I mean Kareem's taking a

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01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: back seat. I don't think he should.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I mean I think when you talk about Kareem,

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01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 2: Lebron and all those Kareems should never take a back seat.

1347
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 2: The game is different than those things that I don't

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01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 2: think we make mention of the old generation. When we do,

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Speaker 2: it's always kind of like taking a swipe, right, Like

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01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 2: you have people talking about like, oh, a bunch of

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Speaker 2: plumbers and those things that we're playing in those days,

1352
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 2: and it's not really fair to the dominance that those

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01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 2: guys showed during their time.

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Speaker 1: That s it.

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01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 2: I think you can appreciate the new generation while still

1356
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 2: paying homage to the old generation. It's just about understanding

1357
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 2: the time, what the expectations were like in those things,

1358
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 2: and you know the game changed, but you still want

1359
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: to recognize and appreciate those who dominated during their respective errors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's kind of crazy because media people and

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01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 1: I hate to go down this road on going to

1362
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,959
Speaker 1: do it. I've never done it comparing Lebron with MJ

1363
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: because that's crazy. It's his crazy situation. But I'm going

1364
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Speaker 1: to compare statistics right now. Championships. Kareem won six NBA titles,

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Speaker 1: Lebron won four, okay, and MVP. Kareem won six and

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Speaker 1: Lebron won four. All Right. When I talk about great players,

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Speaker 1: and they talk about the greatest players in the NBA,

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Speaker 1: you never hear Kareems. Now, I'm telling you he was

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01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: the all time leading scorer until Lebron and Lebron did

1370
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: it because he's played longer and played more games than Kareem. Okay,

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01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: and I think that's that's a major reason why. But

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Speaker 1: when you talk about great players, I don't hear his

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01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 1: name up there. I hear Will Chamberlain, I hear Michael,

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Speaker 1: but I don't hear Kareem. And I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: Why is that?

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Speaker 2: I think I think there's some relatability right. People don't

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01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 2: view him it. They can't relate to a guy who

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01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 2: is that big, dat tall, who had an unstoppable shot

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01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 2: and a hook shot. They don't respect it. Whereas in

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Speaker 2: this air, remember all these young people grew up in

1381
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 2: the Michael Jordan air and then the Lebron are they

1382
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 2: used to see in a different game. The old generation,

1383
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 2: it was inside out. It was you had to have

1384
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 2: a dominant big man. Nil It's become a perimeter game.

1385
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 2: It's about wings and guards and those things. Just differences.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if the pendulum ever swings. But Kareem Abdul

1387
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 2: Jabbari does not get enough credit for its greatness.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you one of the reasons why I

1389
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 1: don't think he was liked. I think they a lot

1390
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Speaker 1: of media people who looked at him as a militant

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Speaker 1: and they didn't like him. I really believe that I

1392
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: think the media could really judge a player and put

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01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: a hex on a play. I'll give you an example.

1394
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Speaker 1: Back in the day, Steve Carlton, Lefty, played pitch for

1395
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Phillies Hall of Fame, a great pitcher. He

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Speaker 1: refused to do interviews with various media people, and one

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01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: of those media people was the late Phil Peppi of

1398
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: the New York Daily News. And Phil Peppy was president

1399
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: of the National Baseball Writers at the time, and he

1400
01:08:56,479 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: kind of just made it a point of not wanting

1401
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 1: to get Calton into the Hall of Fame. For whatever

1402
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 1: the reason was. It was a personal thing. And I

1403
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: think people do that, and I think a lot of

1404
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 1: times the public judges a player and how he's viewed

1405
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: in the media. And I think when a player goes

1406
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 1: on TV for five to ten minutes on TV could

1407
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: change an entire attitude of a fan towards a player.

1408
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: I really believe that, and I think it's important. And

1409
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: I think that when you read about a player, and

1410
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 1: a guy writes a column about a player, talk about

1411
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: what Kareem has done in his career and what the

1412
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 1: books he's written and with the stances he's taken, who

1413
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: cares he's a great player and leave that other garbage

1414
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: out of it. But people judge Kareem that way, and

1415
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 1: I think that Kareem has been putting in a bad

1416
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: light because of media people, and I think to some

1417
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: extent he's bitter about that too. I really believe that

1418
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 1: Kareem is somewhat bitter about that too. And I don't

1419
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: know why Kareem never even got a job as a coach.

1420
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: I know he's an assistant coach at one point in

1421
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: time with the Lakers, but I think at one point

1422
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: in time also, he always wanted to be a head

1423
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: coach in the NBA and never got that deal.

1424
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 2: I mean, he shapes a lot of what we think

1425
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 2: about people, and depending on his interactions with those people,

1426
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 2: it was detrimental to his long term outlook and his

1427
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: long term dreams. It's unfortunate because to know the man

1428
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 2: and to know what he was able to do, his

1429
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 2: activity in the community, his willingness to look be an author,

1430
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 2: to do different things that he's done along the journey,

1431
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 2: he should be an inspiration as opposed to someone who

1432
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 2: was vilified for some of those things that he was

1433
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 2: involved in.

1434
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Speaker 1: I agree it's funny in the same token about people

1435
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: and how they're treated, what they do. Last week, I

1436
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: think NBC, I think it was on Tuesday night, they

1437
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: did a great thing of the NBA. They brought back

1438
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 1: Bob Costas, and they brought back the illustrator and things

1439
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 1: like that. And one of the people they didn't bring

1440
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 1: back was Hall of Fame writer Pvesse. Pvesse, I know,

1441
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 1: Wellie from the New York Day News right for the

1442
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: USA Today, and he was bitter. He was bitter that

1443
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: he wasn't invited back, and he probably should have been

1444
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 1: invited back, because I think I put a hex on

1445
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: NBC by not bringing him back. But the amount of

1446
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: social media material that was I had no idea, and

1447
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: I know p Vess for a long time, but I

1448
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: had no idea that when he was inducted to the

1449
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, they said his Hall of Fame speech

1450
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: was so bad. Now Michael Jordan walked out, he baded

1451
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: mouthed people. He was just he was meet the people.

1452
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: Who's nasty the people, And they said that's why NBC.

1453
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: In a sense, that's they believe NBC didn't invite him

1454
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: back because he treated people in a poor manner and

1455
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 1: he didn't bring him back. But I think it's a

1456
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: bad look for NBC to bring everybody back for the

1457
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: old broadcast and not bring Pete Vesse back. He was

1458
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: a major part of it.

1459
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 2: He was a major part of it. But you don't

1460
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 2: know how that would have impacted some of the old

1461
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,600
Speaker 2: school people that have been involved in the telecast. I

1462
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 2: do remember Peter Vessi as a lightning rod, right like.

1463
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 2: He took controversial stances. I mean, in a way he

1464
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 2: was Skip Bayless before Skip Bayless rolls to prominence, but

1465
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 2: in a different role. He took shots. He had strong

1466
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 2: opinions in those things, which you should have. But hey, man,

1467
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 2: you don't have the star. The game is always the star.

1468
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,719
Speaker 2: Nobody's bigger than the game. And sometimes I think all

1469
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 2: of us, whether we're playing, whether we're on the outside,

1470
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 2: all of us need to keep that in perspective. Nobody's

1471
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 2: bigger than the game. You're just a role, You're just

1472
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 2: a cog in the wheel. And I think Peter Vesi

1473
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:25,839
Speaker 2: found it out the hard way.

1474
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. Before he went to the

1475
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 1: New York Post and he went to the USA Today,

1476
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 1: he wrote for the New York Daily News, and he

1477
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 1: covered the ABA, the Old American Basketball Association, and Luke

1478
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: Connoseca was coaching the nets before he went back to

1479
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 1: Saint John's and conna Seca told me his story and

1480
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 1: may he rest in peace. He was great, Lukennoseca. He

1481
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 1: said that he sat next to the Vessei on the

1482
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: plane and he opened up, said a lot of things,

1483
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: and next thing he knew, he said on the back

1484
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: page and the tabloid, the New York Daily News. So

1485
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: Pete Vesi was one of those guys. I guess you

1486
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: got to watch yourself. But you know, Luke conna Seca

1487
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: is just a gentleman. He was the best, and I

1488
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 1: guess he felt trust in Vessi at the time. But

1489
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 1: he opened up and said a couple of things that

1490
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: made the back page headlines of the New York Daily

1491
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:12,560
Speaker 1: News and they could cause animosity between Vesi and Connoseca

1492
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 1: for a long time for many And I'm sure Vessi

1493
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 1: had did that to many people, not just to look Connoseca.

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Speaker 2: He crossed them and he did. Trust. Man, when you

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01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 2: say something, when you say something in the confidence you

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01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:29,640
Speaker 2: trust it, guys are don't leave it. It's kind of

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01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 2: like a private conversation, even though you shouldn't assume that,

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01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 2: but you trust that they're going to do those things.

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01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 2: And when they don't, man, you burn a bridge that

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01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 2: you can never get back.

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01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 1: Have you seen that as a player, I'm sure you've

1502
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: seen that. Guys coming into the locker room after the game,

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01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen that. I mean that a lot

1504
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 1: of these players just tell something to a writer and

1505
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 1: say this has been off the record. They use it

1506
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, fisticuffs maybe who knows, lightning, lightning happens,

1507
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 1: that's what happens to a lot groom. Not good.

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01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is being a big problem, like

1509
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 2: you just man, it's unfortunate, you know.

1510
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 1: But I'll say this though, I mean.

1511
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 2: Anything you want to keep private private.

1512
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: But there is a solution to that now. And I

1513
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 1: think one of the solutions is social media, because if

1514
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:17,759
Speaker 1: you have an account, you have your own social media account,

1515
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: like a TikTok whatever it may be. You could like

1516
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 1: right the way you feel and you don't need a

1517
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: third party to express what you have to say. You

1518
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 1: go directly on your social media account. As an athlete,

1519
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 1: and you could say you don't need a newspaper man

1520
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: or a media type to get the word out for

1521
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: you do it yourself. So there is an advantage to that.

1522
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 2: Today and that's been a big part of I mean,

1523
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 2: that's been a big part of UH players and what

1524
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 2: they call new media is taking control of their own

1525
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 2: message because before you to depend on the person around you,

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01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 2: the writer to do it. Now you can say no,

1527
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,600
Speaker 2: I'm popping my you know phone, and say what I

1528
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 2: want to say.

1529
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:59,719
Speaker 1: There we go. All right, he's Bucket Brooks. He always

1530
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: says he wants to say, I'm in Andy Fermit. Together.

1531
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: We have Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Radio and

1532
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 1: you go left or right, you go up, We're down

1533
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: or yay or nay, and it's next yay n a

1534
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: coming right up. This is Fox Sports Sunday and Fox

1535
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Speaker 1: Sports Radius. Bucket Brooks are many Firman are alive from

1536
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 1: the Fox Sports Radio students. But right now it's time for.

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Speaker 7: The ti Iraq playing today shore the time, Oh schwarmwart

1538
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Speaker 7: the home run USA winning in the World Cup of Baseball.

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1545
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 1: a little yay r nay with the big dumper.

1546
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 6: Okay, let's figure rack those brains, gentlemen, these stories need

1547
01:15:59,360 --> 01:15:59,600
Speaker 6: it is.

1548
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 2: I think we need a ruling on this.

1549
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 3: Yay nay?

1550
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 1: Are you ready?

1551
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 2: Oh?

1552
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 4: I am ready. Let's go yeah, nay time everybody.

1553
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 1: We're all ready all right?

1554
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 3: Well yeah or nay on this guys.

1555
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 4: Uh, let's stop all the march madness brackets and they

1556
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 4: open the bubble garbage seed all the teams based on

1557
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:20,520
Speaker 4: nil payments.

1558
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 3: Yay r nay and andy.

1559
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 1: Well you know what, Initially I'd say yay. But if

1560
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,560
Speaker 1: you do that, then you play have to do with

1561
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,959
Speaker 1: with budgets and salary cap deals with Major League Baseball

1562
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 1: and every other major league team. But I kind of

1563
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,600
Speaker 1: like it in college because there's certainly an advantage with

1564
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 1: teams that have more money, more loans, that are paying

1565
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 1: with big checks to get better players. So maybe they

1566
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: should do it that way. I wouldn't mind seeing it,

1567
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 1: why not?

1568
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm not necessarily with that because it doesn't

1569
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 2: translate into success. Just because you spend a bunch of

1570
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 2: money doesn't mean that it's always gonna work. So, I mean,

1571
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 2: it's cute, but I don't think so. I don't think.

1572
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, but the team's a buck. The teams

1573
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 1: are big money right now, paying big athletes big money

1574
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: right now. They're gonna go further in the tournament. When't

1575
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 1: you think then the teams are not. I mean, let's

1576
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 1: face it. At the university, I love it.

1577
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 2: They're gonna do.

1578
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: But Arizona's gonna go further than Miami.

1579
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, but like, just because you spend money

1580
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 2: doesn't guarantee that you don't have a lot of success.

1581
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I just think that some of those teams,

1582
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 2: some of those teams have big rosters money wise, but

1583
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 2: it doesn't work. You still have to coach your players,

1584
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 2: you still have to be a really good team to

1585
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 2: get it done.

1586
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:29,799
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see what happens.

1587
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 3: Okay, next, All right, well let's see what happens here, guys.

1588
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 4: This one was a real quick, real simple one here,

1589
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 4: quite simply the World Baseball Classic. Just yay or nay

1590
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,560
Speaker 4: on that Bucky Brooks.

1591
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 2: Yay. I love it. And this is why I love it,

1592
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 2: Because MLB has so many unwritten rules that you don't

1593
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 2: see the personalities of the players come through time and

1594
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 2: time again. There's a refreshing feel to watching the World

1595
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 2: Basketball Class where guys are talking trash, guys are bat flipping.

1596
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 2: There's a lot of energy and excitement and those things.

1597
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 2: To me, I love it because it's an exciting brand

1598
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 2: of baseball that we normally don't see when the majors

1599
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 2: are playing.

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Speaker 1: I say nay, and I'll tell you why. Because when

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01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 1: I turn on the radio on Sirius XM channel Lady three,

1602
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm hearing the World Baseball Classic instead of two pros

1603
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 1: and a cup of Joe or Ben Maller at night.

1604
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: They got those games on instead of my favorite shows

1605
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. How's that sang?

1606
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 3: All right?

1607
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 1: All right?

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01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 3: Okay, Well I got one more. I got another one

1609
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 3: for Andy and.

1610
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 4: Idaho man David Rush caught a tennis ball behind his

1611
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 4: back from a distance of about one hundred and ninety

1612
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 4: nine feet to claim a Guinness World record. Really a

1613
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 4: stunt and athletic feet or just playing Look your thoughts

1614
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 4: on this deal?

1615
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:50,759
Speaker 3: Andy?

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01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1617
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 3: Or nay, nay.

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01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 1: The guy's a clown. He should be in the circus.

1619
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,719
Speaker 1: Come on, give me a break. The guys are fake,

1620
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 1: fake and a phony A bump, right, I.

1621
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 2: Mean, I don't know this. Yeah, sounds pretty impressive to me.

1622
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 2: Almost three hundred feet to catch him behind the back.

1623
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 2: You know what he is.

1624
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 1: He's a one to b athlete. He couldn't find anything

1625
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: to do, so he finally found this thing to find

1626
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: out to find the tennis ball behind this back. God lucky.

1627
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: He must have tried a ten thousand times if he

1628
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 1: finally cloted once.

1629
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 3: Really, okay, all right, I'm a buckey on this one.

1630
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 3: That's athletic. I like that. I couldn't even do it

1631
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 3: if it was ten feet in front of me. Come on,

1632
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 3: all right.

1633
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 4: So the NBA, the w NBA players are possibly putting

1634
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 4: their season in jeopardy with demands for a new collective

1635
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 4: bargaining agreement that includes twenty seven percent of the league's

1636
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 4: gross revenue, higher salaries and a team salary cap and

1637
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 4: team provided housing.

1638
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 3: Are we yay or nay on this? Bucky?

1639
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 2: Uh? I say, say, we're in a because we haven't

1640
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 2: gotten enough done, but we're getting closer to a ya,

1641
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 2: but I'm still a note. I'm still an honor close

1642
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 2: into a YadA.

1643
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 1: I'm impressed because I'm in a Also, i just think

1644
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 1: it's a little too soon to be demanding that kind

1645
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 1: of money right now, back go off, just to drop

1646
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 1: all right, you're still in the embryonic stage in that league.

1647
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: Just back go off just a little bit. That's all

1648
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1649
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 3: All Right, one more quick one.

1650
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 4: The USA victory men's and women's hockey in the recent

1651
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 4: Olympics will serve as a spring forward for NHL interests,

1652
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 4: Yeah or Nandy.

1653
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: Hell no, hell no, we root for the country. We

1654
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 1: don't root for the game. That's what they do wing.

1655
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 1: They root for that country.

1656
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, uh no, it doesn't. It doesn't

1657
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 2: need to a spring board because you can't replicate the

1658
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 2: feel of the Olympics. So no, it doesn't do anything.

1659
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna tell you what your team needs to

1660
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 1: improve for next season. That in more next a Fox

1661
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 1: All right, here we go, what your team needs. We'll

1662
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 1: get to that in just about a minute. Good morning, America.

1663
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Sunday at Fox Frustrata. Yes, on

1664
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 1: the East Coast, to say to Am, Yes, you should

1665
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 1: have moved your clock spring ahead. Bucky Brooks Andy Furmer

1666
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 1: were broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And

1667
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 1: by the way, be sure to have subscribed to the

1668
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Just search Fox Sports Radio

1669
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: on YouTube and you'll see our best videos from all

1670
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:15,400
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1671
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: I kind of comment the way. Let us know who

1672
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 1: takes you like and even who takes you don't like.

1673
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:22,680
Speaker 1: Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you can subscribe.

1674
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 1: All right, he is my guy. He's Bucky Brooks, mister football.

1675
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 1: He knows it all top to bottom and that's why

1676
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 1: he's here. And Bucky, I gotta tell you we move

1677
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: off football for a second. I feel free with North

1678
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:37,480
Speaker 1: Carolina got it handed to them yesterday by Duke. In basketball,

1679
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 1: I mean that Duke is tough. It doesn't make a difference.

1680
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 1: He was coaching that team. They got the players, and

1681
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 1: they look pretty good against you tar Heels yesterday.

1682
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 2: Oh look, they did look pretty good against tourists. And

1683
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 2: I feel like Duke is the best team in basketball.

1684
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 2: Caroline unfortunately lost their best player, kayleb Wilson. That's Une excused.

1685
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 2: That's what every team eventually has to deal with. Just

1686
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 2: couldn't get it done, and it's unfortunate, but it is

1687
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 2: the way of the world.

1688
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. And I think they're the

1689
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 1: best team in basketball too, because Yukon did lose yesterday.

1690
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 1: They lose to Marquette. It was last game Senior Night

1691
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 1: than Senior Day actually, Marquette and Milwaukee yes day. Marquette

1692
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 1: beat up on Yukon, and Dan Hurley didn't look too

1693
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 1: good in that. When he's going to get suspended, I'm

1694
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 1: sure maybe they say he pushed an official. Allegedly he

1695
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 1: said he didn't, but the videotape looked like he came

1696
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 1: pretty close chest to chess with that official. He got

1697
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 1: some manga management there. Hurly, better calm down, just a job.

1698
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: Guy's going to get a heart attack on the court.

1699
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's ridiculous, it really is. You know what

1700
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 1: if you play for a guy like that, I mean,

1701
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: have you played for a coach that was kind of

1702
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,799
Speaker 1: a lunatic. I mean you just shake your head and say,

1703
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 1: calm down, coach man, it's a game, and I know

1704
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 1: you want to win, but you got to take it easy.

1705
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 1: Your health is more important than the game. Have you

1706
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:55,759
Speaker 1: coached any played for a coach anything in that area,

1707
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 1: like like a Dan Hurley.

1708
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 2: I can't say that I have. I can't say that.

1709
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: I believe they called him off Levy and then earlyer

1710
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 1: coach and they're both supposed to do the same thing

1711
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 1: and the two opposite ends of the spectrum. Right.

1712
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't say that I've ever played with anybody

1713
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 2: or played for anybody that was a lunatic like that.

1714
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 2: It's just hard to do that and be under control,

1715
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 2: you know, like you just it's just rare. It's just

1716
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 2: rare to see. So yeah, I don't know need to

1717
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 2: even say when it comes to that, like that's just

1718
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 2: a real, real tough it's a really tough deal, you know,

1719
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 2: like kind of bananas.

1720
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 1: It's crazy, it really is. I mean, I just I

1721
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 1: saw Travis Steele do that a week ago when Miami

1722
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:47,839
Speaker 1: University coaches Miami University and they were playing Western Michigan. Halftime,

1723
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 1: he walked out, he got a technical on him and

1724
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 1: the speaker system for the band, I guess, and he

1725
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 1: punched that and he threw it down, I guess. Yesterday,

1726
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 1: Bruce Pearl said the former coach of Auburn. He's now

1727
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: on TV as a commentator. He said he's going to

1728
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: pay the twenty five hundred dollars fine that Travis Steele

1729
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 1: had make it go do his favorite charity. So I

1730
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 1: get it's emotional things like that, but it's it's hard

1731
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: to reel it in. It really is. It's hard to

1732
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 1: reel in. And a lot of these of these coaches

1733
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 1: can't a lot of pressure. I mean, I think they

1734
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 1: know they're playing for their lives and playing for their

1735
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 1: for their job, whatever it may be. But I think

1736
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: that we have got sucked into at least I have.

1737
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 1: I got sucked at the football. You know, we're a

1738
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 1: week away from March Man this selection Sunday, and we're

1739
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 1: still talking football. That's a credit to the National Football League,

1740
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 1: isn't it. I mean that we took football year round.

1741
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: It really is. I mean maybe we should have talked

1742
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: a little more basketball. I don't know, but I'm I'm

1743
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 1: talking football. I think that's what people want to talk about,

1744
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 1: don't you think.

1745
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean it's I mean, look, it is what

1746
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 2: it is. The popularity it's for it makes it where

1747
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 2: that's that's that's where you want to you want to

1748
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 2: talk about ball all the time, all the time.

1749
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: That's what we do. And obviously the NFL has it

1750
01:24:56,200 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 1: planned in such a way at that beginning tomorrow, players

1751
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 1: expiring contracts going to begin negotiating with other ball clubs

1752
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 1: because free agency gets started tomorrow and I'm looking at

1753
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 1: the free agent list. Tell me a little bit about

1754
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson the defensive end, thirty five sacks between three

1755
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 1: and twenty four playing for the Bengals, but did not

1756
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 1: have a good I guess season last year on the

1757
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,600
Speaker 1: field and off the Philly was injured. Of course, what

1758
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 1: happens to Trey Hendrickson? How excited our team is going

1759
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 1: to be to have this guy, because obviously he's thirty

1760
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 1: one years of age, which is kind of like getting

1761
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 1: in the graybeard situation for defensive ends.

1762
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that fine line of that will impact his contract.

1763
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 2: But here's what I'll say about Trey Hendrickson. He is

1764
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 2: so good because he's a technician in those things that

1765
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 2: I don't think his game is dependent upon athleticism, speed

1766
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 2: or quickness that would normally impact some people, but for him, no,

1767
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 2: it shouldn't be anything that's impactful he's a really good player.

1768
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 2: He's a talented technician. The money has to kind of

1769
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 2: match the age thing. You have to put that in consideration.

1770
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 2: But I just saw ky Lil Mack signed a deal

1771
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:11,600
Speaker 2: for eighteen million dollars and he's an older player. To me,

1772
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 2: there's a way to get it done. You just got

1773
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 2: to figure it out. And I think he will figure

1774
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 2: it out because he's so good and people certainly understand

1775
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 2: the kind of dynamic playmaker that he is. They want

1776
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 2: him somebody, somebody will find a way to pay him.

1777
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:27,639
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, I led the league with seventeen

1778
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 1: and a half sacks. I still can't believe the Bengals

1779
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 1: let this guy walk and they wouldn't pay the guy.

1780
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I mean, and that defense was

1781
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 1: so poorous, it was so bad the last two years.

1782
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 1: What do they do instead of paying him? They get

1783
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 1: rid of the defensive coordinator who goes to Indianapolis, I

1784
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: mean Aniromo. I just I don't understand that. I mean,

1785
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 1: there's something wrong though, you think, doesn't it shouldn't happen.

1786
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: Guy's a great player, you really, I mean, fresh start

1787
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 1: for him is the best thing.

1788
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, yeah, would. I would say he needs a

1789
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 2: fresh start because he needs to feel like one he

1790
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 2: needs to get paid what he's worth. Two he needs

1791
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 2: to feel like he's valued and appreciated. And I can't

1792
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 2: say that he has always been valued by the Bengals.

1793
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 2: So maybe somebody else will find a way to value

1794
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,640
Speaker 2: him and pay him what he needs.

1795
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 1: No doubt about that. Okay, let me talk about George Pickens,

1796
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:24,519
Speaker 1: who basically is a little bit of a flake anyway,

1797
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 1: but he had a great year list year with fourteen

1798
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 1: order yards and ninety three catches, nine touchdowns. He's a

1799
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,839
Speaker 1: free he may be a number one free agent. George Picktens,

1800
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 1: the receiver.

1801
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 2: What do you think, Well, he's on a franchise tag,

1802
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 2: so that that kind of eliminates some of the stuff

1803
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:46,480
Speaker 2: when it comes for him, you know, like he he's

1804
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're gonna do it, you've got to

1805
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 2: give up significant draft capital in those I don't think

1806
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 2: anybody's gonna do that, but really good player deserving of

1807
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 2: being paid. But I think what the Cowboys are doing

1808
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 2: their heads in the bet to make sure that the

1809
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 2: behavior continues to match up in terms of like just

1810
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 2: make sure they can trust that he's going to be

1811
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 2: who he's who we expect him to be as a

1812
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:09,719
Speaker 2: franchise caliber player.

1813
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:12,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, but here's the situation. I gotta believe that George

1814
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 1: Picken's right now. He wants to be a number one

1815
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 1: and if he stays in Dallas, it's going to be

1816
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:18,599
Speaker 1: he and C. D. Lamb, which is a great one

1817
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 1: two punch. But I think that people have he goals

1818
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 1: and he wants to be the number one receiver on

1819
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 1: the team, don't you think.

1820
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, no, I think he wants to be paid.

1821
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 2: So we can talk about all that other stuff. But

1822
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 2: he wants to get paid. And the way that like

1823
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,759
Speaker 2: he played last year, he's certainly deserving of being paid.

1824
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 2: But you have to make sure if you're the Cowboys,

1825
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to pay him big money. But when

1826
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 2: you pay him big money, what comes with that? You know,

1827
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 2: is he going to continue to be the same player

1828
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 2: that he's been or is he going to change? You know,

1829
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:57,759
Speaker 2: Like that's a big part of the thing. So Canny

1830
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 2: Canny continue to be the player that they want them

1831
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 2: to be and deliver on and off the field.

1832
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking at free agents and you hit

1833
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 1: it right on the head when you say Khalil Mack

1834
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 1: the outside linebacker, he's thirty five. He's going to be

1835
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 1: thirty five, I think when the season starts. But a

1836
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 1: lot of these guys who are free agents right now

1837
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 1: are older. And then in the authority, you've got Mike

1838
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 1: Evans wide receiver at thirty three, Joey Boses thirty one.

1839
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 1: So you got these guys that are aging right now.

1840
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:31,639
Speaker 1: We mentioned Trey Hendrickson's going to be thirty one when

1841
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 1: the season starts. So I think ball clubs right now

1842
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 1: is saying, hey, you know what, we're going younger and

1843
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 1: going cheaper. That could be the reason as well, not

1844
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 1: so much that they lost their skill level, but the

1845
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is that these guys are older.

1846
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 1: Mike Evans still is a pretty good player, all right.

1847
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: I think that someone's going to pick him up and

1848
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 1: they could probably get into the year or two out

1849
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 1: of this guy. But at thirty three, I don't know,

1850
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 1: wide receiver, you're on the downside.

1851
01:29:58,360 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I'm not gonna spend a whole lot of money.

1852
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 2: People want stay go over over thirty you know, like

1853
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 2: you don't. You don't want to do that because more

1854
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 2: than not you're going to be on the downside. You

1855
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 2: just can't. You just can't get it done. So I

1856
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:15,799
Speaker 2: would like to make sure that I have a younger player.

1857
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:17,600
Speaker 2: If it is an older player, then I got to

1858
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 2: make sure that the conversation matches up with the perceived

1859
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 2: time that I think they're going to fall off or decline.

1860
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:25,920
Speaker 2: That can be hard sometimes, right.

1861
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking at free agents right now, and on the

1862
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 1: free agent list, tell me if I'm mistaken, I only

1863
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:35,600
Speaker 1: see three quarterbacks, and that's Daniel Jones, Malik Willis, and

1864
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 1: believe it or not, Aaron Rodgers is a free agent.

1865
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 1: But I at forty two years of age, I think

1866
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 1: that the only place he's going to be playing is

1867
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:44,719
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh if he even plays there, because he's starting

1868
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 1: in Gonna. He's going out on social media saying he

1869
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:50,679
Speaker 1: hasn't made a decision yet. I mean, come on, really,

1870
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 1: you know you know what you're gonna do. I mean,

1871
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 1: you just want people talking about you. But I think

1872
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,679
Speaker 1: he's going to play for Mike McCarthy. I mean, really,

1873
01:30:58,000 --> 01:30:59,760
Speaker 1: he'll be back. Don't you think he'll be back? I

1874
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:00,599
Speaker 1: think he will.

1875
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, he's a different bird. So I

1876
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 2: can't he sure. He's hard to figure out when it

1877
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 2: comes to it. So, yeah, that's a tough one for me.

1878
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:15,639
Speaker 2: I do think he'll come back. It's gonna take some courting.

1879
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:17,600
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to quurt him a little bit. You

1880
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 2: can have to beg him and plead a little bit

1881
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 2: to get him to come. But at some point he'll

1882
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 2: he'll come back and he'll make his he'll make his

1883
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:28,639
Speaker 2: triumph return. And I believe it'll be with the Pittsburgh

1884
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 2: sill Is because he knows Mike McCarthy.

1885
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:35,640
Speaker 1: No doubt about that. Daniel Jones, Okay, torn Achilles last December. Uh,

1886
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 1: he had the best season going into that, but that

1887
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 1: that killed him. Really, he'll be back for sure, Daniel Jones,

1888
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 1: what happens there. I think he's the starting quite about

1889
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 1: for the Colts, don't you think.

1890
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 2: Yes, they sign him to the transition tag to make

1891
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:54,639
Speaker 2: it easy for them, to make sure they could get

1892
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:57,759
Speaker 2: it done. It's just a matter of, you know, getting

1893
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 2: the money right. They'll get the money right and figure

1894
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 2: out that stuff out.

1895
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 1: The money's there, nobody about that. Everybody's getting money right now.

1896
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:07,280
Speaker 1: Malik Willis. The rumors out there that he's going to

1897
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 1: be the next quarterback of the New York Jets. What

1898
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 1: do you think about that?

1899
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 2: That wouldn't be great. I wouldn't think that would be

1900
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 2: good for him.

1901
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 1: I don't think of anybody.

1902
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think that'd be great

1903
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 2: for him. But maybe yeah, yeah, I don't. I just

1904
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 2: don't think that'd be great. I don't. I think that

1905
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 2: would be horrible in.

1906
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:34,839
Speaker 1: Fact, anybody really, not just him, for anybody.

1907
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 2: You know.

1908
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 1: Here's a guy I'm talking about, Kyle Pitch. He was

1909
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 1: the highest drafted tight end ever, number four pick in

1910
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:44,679
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. But I guess his time is finished

1911
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 1: now with the Atlanta Falcons. Kyle pissed. I mean, he

1912
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 1: may be out there and we'll see what I mean,

1913
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 1: he's I don't know why. I just don't understand what

1914
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 1: happened there in Atlanta. I don't know. I think that

1915
01:32:57,200 --> 01:33:00,639
Speaker 1: part of the problem was the quarterbacks are situation. They're

1916
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 1: changing quarterbacks in Atlanta, do you think.

1917
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's a part of it, you know,

1918
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 2: Like the quarterback change is they just couldn't unlock him,

1919
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Speaker 2: and I think it's weird right based on who he is,

1920
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 2: right as a player, you would just think that, man,

1921
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:21,680
Speaker 2: it'd be so easy to get him to rock and

1922
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 2: get him the ball. And unfortunately, like you look at

1923
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 2: most of his career, he wasn't able to really make

1924
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 2: a huge impact as a playmaker. And that is not

1925
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,600
Speaker 2: what you used. That's not what you would think of

1926
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:35,720
Speaker 2: a talented athlete like him. You would think that he

1927
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:38,639
Speaker 2: would create mismatches all over the field, just wasn't able

1928
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 2: to do it.

1929
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Speaker 1: I'm going to say this, and I think you'll agree

1930
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 1: with me. There's a running back as a free agent.

1931
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to say he's the best running back on

1932
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 1: the market right now in free agency, Breece Holl who

1933
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 1: played for the Jets, best running back in free agency.

1934
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's off the market because of the tag.

1935
01:33:57,760 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 2: They put a franchise tag on him, so you can't

1936
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 2: get to It's bad though.

1937
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gotta be dying that he can't get

1938
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 1: out of there. Do you think, yeah he can't, Yeah,

1939
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 1: he can't, I mean get out. I know the money

1940
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:10,559
Speaker 1: is a big deal and people want to go for

1941
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:12,639
Speaker 1: the money, but still in all there are certain teams

1942
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 1: you just don't want to be involved with, and the

1943
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 1: Jets are one of them. You don't want to play

1944
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 1: for that team. And he's put up some great numbers

1945
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 1: for the Jets. He really is only twenty four years

1946
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 1: of age. I mean, he's got to be dying. He's

1947
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 1: probably begging his age and doing something to try to

1948
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:26,639
Speaker 1: get out of it. Can't get out of it though,

1949
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 1: he's there, right, He's stuck for another year with the Jets.

1950
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean at a minimum, he's stuck for

1951
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 2: another year. Yeah, he can't. He can't get out, like

1952
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 2: there's nothing franchise tag, he's done, it's done. Deal. He

1953
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 2: can hope to negotiate a long term deal, but nah,

1954
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,679
Speaker 2: there's nothing he can do. Amazing.

1955
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna throw out some teams here, and I'm

1956
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 1: gonna suggest, if I'm in charge of whatever of the team,

1957
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 1: what that team needs, all right, and you tell me

1958
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 1: if you agree. I'm going to start with Jerry Jones

1959
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 1: because I kind of like Jerry Jones. All Right, Dallas Cowboys,

1960
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 1: I would say, if I'm involved with the Dallas Cowboys,

1961
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 1: their major concern now, and if you're a Dallas Cowboys fan,

1962
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:09,640
Speaker 1: I think you'll agree with me. They need somebody on

1963
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 1: DEFENSEY need a pass rusher. They need a couple of linebackers, cornerbacks. Defense.

1964
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 1: They got a new defensive coordinator I believe, also in Dallas,

1965
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 1: but they need defensive help big time. They may have

1966
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 1: had the worst defense in Dallas Cowboys history last year.

1967
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 1: They need defensive help more than anything else.

1968
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 2: Correct, Yes, they do need defensive help, and they're changing systems,

1969
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 2: and when you change systems, it definitely is going to

1970
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:37,840
Speaker 2: require that from a four to three to a three

1971
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 2: four to kind of linebackers you need, the kind of

1972
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 2: edge defenders you need. All of that is in play.

1973
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 2: And even though like most teams spend the base of

1974
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:50,880
Speaker 2: their downs in nickel right, the majority of the downs

1975
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 2: are in nickel package or whatever like. You got to

1976
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 2: get the right personnel for this new coordinator who's coming

1977
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 2: over from a Vic Fangio style system, which is completely

1978
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 2: different than what Reluce and others have been running in

1979
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 2: Dallas for a long time. It will change their eye

1980
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 2: a little bit for the kind of talent that they

1981
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:07,719
Speaker 2: go after.

1982
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 1: All Right, this isn't easy. One the Arizona Cardinals, they

1983
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,839
Speaker 1: need a quarterback. Is Jacoby Brissett going to be the quarterback?

1984
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 1: Because they're basically saying Kyler Murray's gone, right, they don't

1985
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 1: want him there. He's out of there.

1986
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't want them there, and they're gonna have

1987
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 2: to figure that for it out. I would say the

1988
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals will Melie Willis could be a factor. They're

1989
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:38,759
Speaker 2: given the relationship between the head coach and his brother

1990
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:40,719
Speaker 2: who is a head coach of the Green Bay Packers,

1991
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 2: Mike Laflour, Matt Lafleur. That connection is gonna help. Also.

1992
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:49,839
Speaker 2: Manciansen Forth, the general manager for the Cardinals, was director

1993
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 2: personnel for the Sant S Titans when they draft them. Eleak,

1994
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:55,880
Speaker 2: so you know, so the familiarity is everything. That'll probably

1995
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 2: be the best spot. I would look for them to

1996
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 2: try and find their quarterback in Malie Willis.

1997
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw a name out there, but you can

1998
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 1: promise don't laugh at me. Okay, are you ready? What

1999
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:08,720
Speaker 1: about Kirk Cousins. Could Kirk Cousins go to Arizona?

2000
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 2: I mean he could. I don't think he would be

2001
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 2: first on their list, right, he was okay last year? Okay,

2002
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 2: I don't think stretch if you ask what they want, yeah, yeah,

2003
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 2: he had a little stretch. He was okay, Okay, okay,

2004
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 2: all right, just okay.

2005
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 1: Well you don't see it happening, all.

2006
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 2: Right, No, no, no, no, it could happen, but I think

2007
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:44,719
Speaker 2: he wouldn't be number one on their board in terms of, hey,

2008
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 2: let's go a whole out of salt on Kirk Cousins.

2009
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:51,000
Speaker 2: I think Kirk Cousins would be let's see if we

2010
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 2: can find somebody else. But he's a good backup policy.

2011
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 2: If we can't get one of those guys, we'll look

2012
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 2: at it. Because Jimmy Garoppolos could have some interest from

2013
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals as well, backup quarterback from the Rams.

2014
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:04,719
Speaker 2: The new head coach knows them, work with them last year.

2015
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 2: That could be a little bit of a deal.

2016
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 1: I tell you what, though, one team that has really

2017
01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 1: made some moves right now, a lot of movement, and

2018
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:15,880
Speaker 1: I think that we're not going to see a lot

2019
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:18,599
Speaker 1: of success. And maybe I'm wrong on this. I'm talking

2020
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 1: about the Detroit Lions. They lost their center last year

2021
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 1: and maybe that should be their number one priority and

2022
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 1: the draft is an offensive center, but a lot of

2023
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 1: movement there. Running back Montgomery's gone. So what's happening with

2024
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions If they're revamping the entire roster.

2025
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:41,639
Speaker 2: It looks like, Yeah, look, I think sometimes when you're

2026
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:45,599
Speaker 2: very successful, you have to make some of these changes, right,

2027
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 2: You have to make some of these changes in terms

2028
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:51,440
Speaker 2: of just saying one step ahead of the curve, and unfortunately,

2029
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:56,759
Speaker 2: sometimes good people have to go out. They just changed.

2030
01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:58,320
Speaker 2: It's just changed. But it's a part of the way.

2031
01:38:58,360 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 2: You can't stay the same in the league. They had

2032
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:01,640
Speaker 2: an run. You think about it, this has been a

2033
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 2: nice forty five year run for the Lions. At some

2034
01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:06,560
Speaker 2: point you naturally have a turnover. So this is just

2035
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 2: their turnover mark. But they're hoping to do is to

2036
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 2: be able to turn it over while still being very,

2037
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 2: very successful.

2038
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:14,759
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna have a lot of success

2039
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:16,760
Speaker 1: next year. I really don't know that division's bet. I

2040
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:18,519
Speaker 1: think the Bears are better than them. We saw that

2041
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 1: this year, and the Bears are just going to be

2042
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:24,640
Speaker 1: getting better. Right, The Bears are better than them. Minnesota

2043
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:25,640
Speaker 1: had a decent.

2044
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah they are. But here's what we also know. There's

2045
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 2: no such thing as momentum in the National Football League.

2046
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 2: Just because you were good one year doesn't mean that

2047
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:35,599
Speaker 2: you're going to carry it over and be good the

2048
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,799
Speaker 2: next year, we'll see the Bears appear to be trending

2049
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:42,800
Speaker 2: the right direction, but their defense relied heavily on turnovers

2050
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:45,680
Speaker 2: this past season. Can you confidently say that you can

2051
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:47,880
Speaker 2: be able to get the same kind of production when

2052
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:50,720
Speaker 2: it comes to turnovers? No? And if you can't do that,

2053
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:55,240
Speaker 2: can you play good enough straight up defense going forward? Man,

2054
01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 2: that's a lot man banking on a lot of things

2055
01:39:58,280 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 2: to kind of make it happen.

2056
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. And a team very similar to the Detroit Lions

2057
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:06,839
Speaker 1: that has had success but never really reached to the stars

2058
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 1: is the Buffalo Bills. And I gotta believe right now

2059
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,639
Speaker 1: what they've done with the movements they've made, they need

2060
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. They really do big time. They need

2061
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:18,760
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. Running game is good, defense pretty good,

2062
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:21,679
Speaker 1: but they need a wide receiver that could really help

2063
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:22,679
Speaker 1: out on the offense.

2064
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:27,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, like, you gotta have wide receiver. You

2065
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 2: gotta have a number one. You gotta have someone that

2066
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 2: can really impact the game. And if you don't get that,

2067
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:37,679
Speaker 2: it makes it hard. You have to have the players

2068
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:39,120
Speaker 2: and the personnel to be able to do it.

2069
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:43,599
Speaker 1: One less, say what about your Jacksonville team, I'm gonna

2070
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what you need, okay, and you

2071
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 1: tell me if your group, but that's your team, that's

2072
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:53,639
Speaker 1: your baby. So I think that as far as Jacksonville's concern,

2073
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 1: they need to kind of boost up the secondary. They

2074
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:59,680
Speaker 1: need somebody in the secondary. That's I'm thinking, what do

2075
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:02,679
Speaker 1: you think? And obviously Travis Hunt is coming back, that's

2076
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 1: gonna help, all right, So we'll see what happens there.

2077
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they got to boost it up. You gotta

2078
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:11,479
Speaker 2: find somewhere to do it. Travis Hunter coming back certainly

2079
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 2: will help him.

2080
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:17,760
Speaker 1: Though, all right. Other than that, anybody else on your mind,

2081
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:20,639
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think one team that could really well. Obviously,

2082
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 1: the Bengals need a pass rush. Cleveland Browns. What's the

2083
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:27,479
Speaker 1: quarterback situation in Cleveland? Of course, I think offensively that

2084
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 1: got some problems's playing quarterback.

2085
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:32,320
Speaker 2: And c Yeah, you should do a standards of de

2086
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:34,920
Speaker 2: Shaun Watson, you know.

2087
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 1: And he did a contract renew you know, so obviously

2088
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:40,840
Speaker 1: they're looking to see him play next year. So we'll

2089
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 1: see what happens.

2090
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 2: All right.

2091
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 1: He's Bucky Brooks. I'm sorry, won't see what happened, I hope.

2092
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 1: So he's Bucky Brooks at May Firman with Fox Sports

2093
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:53,720
Speaker 1: Sydney and Fox Sports Radio. We're a lot for the

2094
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio studios, and of course you can get

2095
01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 1: Bucky at Bucky Brooks on exit Andy Furman FSR eight

2096
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:01,760
Speaker 1: seven seven ninety nine on Fox eighty seven seven nine

2097
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:05,760
Speaker 1: ninety six sixty three sixty nine. And one team is

2098
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:10,160
Speaker 1: desperate to sell anything. That's next? All right, is this

2099
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:13,439
Speaker 1: a celebration? Well, we'll get to that in just about

2100
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:16,080
Speaker 1: a minute. Here is Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy fermana we

2101
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 1: of Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio, and we're

2102
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 1: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We have the

2103
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:25,599
Speaker 1: Blame game coming up in about ten minutes from now.

2104
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,479
Speaker 1: But right now we've got something really big. This is good.

2105
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:30,720
Speaker 1: We kind of saved the best for last buck. We

2106
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:33,720
Speaker 1: really do. Because we talk about the NBA and the

2107
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:39,480
Speaker 1: NBA's Atlanta Hawks are going to celebrate Atlanta's cultural iconic institution,

2108
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 1: Magic City, before and during Monday, March sixteenth, their home

2109
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:50,639
Speaker 1: game against the Orlando Magic. Okay, Magic City. Okay, Magic

2110
01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 1: City is a strip club in Atlanta. Not ass has

2111
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:57,599
Speaker 1: anybody in this little room here been there?

2112
01:42:58,240 --> 01:42:58,600
Speaker 2: You know what?

2113
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:01,240
Speaker 1: Litt Dumper. You've been there.

2114
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:01,800
Speaker 2: I've been there.

2115
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 3: I know Rob Barker has been there.

2116
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:08,240
Speaker 1: I think, what is it like? I've never been there.

2117
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:08,880
Speaker 1: I want to go?

2118
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 2: What is it like? So it's an institution, right. So

2119
01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:16,880
Speaker 2: one you have to understand culturally about Atlanta. Uh, strip

2120
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:19,640
Speaker 2: club life is very very popular there. It's kind of

2121
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:22,840
Speaker 2: like the place where everyone ends up. Uh. The food

2122
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:26,920
Speaker 2: in those places, like everyone scoffs at like, oh, it's

2123
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 2: like really good food. District club but like there, that's

2124
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:33,519
Speaker 2: what they're known for. And so the chicken wings. Lou

2125
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 2: Williams got in trouble during COVID because he came out

2126
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:41,719
Speaker 2: the bubble and ended up stopping at Magic for Limon

2127
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 2: Pepper wings. Right, so they're now called Limon Pepper lu

2128
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:47,440
Speaker 2: That's what what they call them. But it is an establishment,

2129
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:50,160
Speaker 2: it is. It is kind of like a thing. It

2130
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 2: has always kind of been a vibe and everyone kind

2131
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 2: of ends up there, they do their thing there whatever.

2132
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:59,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's uh, it's it's different. It's different, but

2133
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 2: I think if you're in Atlanta, you kind of have

2134
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:02,920
Speaker 2: to experience.

2135
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 1: Okay, how did it become so popular? Because that's all

2136
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 1: I hear about, is this place Magic City, and it's

2137
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:13,040
Speaker 1: like one of the biggest strip clubs, I guess, and

2138
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 1: I hate to use the term of strip club an

2139
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 1: exotic dancing club. Can we call it that exotic dancing

2140
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. But how did it get so pop?

2141
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 1: Do the athletes make it that way? When the teams

2142
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:24,679
Speaker 1: come to Atlanta, they will go there?

2143
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, huh, it's very much. It's very much despot.

2144
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:33,880
Speaker 2: Everyone kind of knows what it is. Everyone ends up there.

2145
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:39,160
Speaker 2: It is very much that kind of place. And I

2146
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:41,160
Speaker 2: wish I could just say, like man, people just love

2147
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 2: it and that was it. But people do love it,

2148
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 2: you really what?

2149
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:51,679
Speaker 1: There are lines to get in there? Yes, yes, okay,

2150
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:55,280
Speaker 1: So my next question is this. I mean, I thought

2151
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 1: there might be some pushback from NBA owners or the commissioner,

2152
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 1: Adam Still, or media or women's groups, whatever may be

2153
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:06,400
Speaker 1: for the Atlanta Hawks to have a promotion like this.

2154
01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 1: Of course, you want to maybe protect the esteem and

2155
01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:14,560
Speaker 1: esteem of women who work every day and you know,

2156
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 1: just the wife's sisters, mothers, to take care of women. Okay,

2157
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:22,799
Speaker 1: not to degrade them. But we haven't seen that. Adam

2158
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 1: Silver hasn't said boo Atlanta Hawks, did it? I'm sure

2159
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:28,960
Speaker 1: they had a clear it in their front office. So

2160
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:32,519
Speaker 1: I guess this is a pretty good deal and you

2161
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 1: have no problem with it. I guess right, I mean

2162
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 1: I don't, but you don't have a problem with it.

2163
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 2: Now, I'm anyone who knows the culture down there, like

2164
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 2: if you're from Atlanta or whatever, like or near Atlanta,

2165
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 2: you kind of understand what it is. So yeah, you

2166
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 2: won't have an issue with that because it's a big

2167
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:52,799
Speaker 2: part of the culture, a huge part of the culture.

2168
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 1: Little dumper, do you have a problem with this promotion?

2169
01:45:57,680 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 1: I'm probably not.

2170
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:01,400
Speaker 3: I'm sure I do not have any problem with that.

2171
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:02,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't think.

2172
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 1: I can't tell you what it's done for me. I

2173
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:07,320
Speaker 1: can't wait to go there. I can't wait to go.

2174
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:08,679
Speaker 1: I really want to glean.

2175
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:09,800
Speaker 3: What's not the love there there?

2176
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 2: Guys.

2177
01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:12,400
Speaker 3: Also, the lemon pepper wings is what I'm here, are

2178
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 3: pretty good too.

2179
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:17,800
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, like I would think, Yeah, I wouldn't think

2180
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:20,120
Speaker 2: that he would have an issue with it.

2181
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 1: Are you surprised that a woman's group or the commissioner

2182
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 1: has not said anything yet about this?

2183
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:32,360
Speaker 2: No, just because if you know the city, it would

2184
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 2: never be that big of a deal. If you know

2185
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:35,880
Speaker 2: the city. It would be like, Okay, cool, I can

2186
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 2: see that.

2187
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:41,480
Speaker 1: Interesting because there's one player in the National Basketball Association

2188
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:44,759
Speaker 1: who plays for San Antonio for the Spurs, Luke Cornette.

2189
01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:49,680
Speaker 1: He wrote like a blazing editorial about have you heard

2190
01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 1: about that?

2191
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2192
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm amazed, I really am. Regardless of

2193
01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:56,760
Speaker 1: how of how a woman finds her way onto the

2194
01:46:56,880 --> 01:47:01,520
Speaker 1: adult entertainment industry, many in this space experience abuse, harassment,

2195
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:06,120
Speaker 1: and violence. I like to encourage the league, the league's owners, employees,

2196
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 1: and fans to hold the Atlanta Hawks to a higher

2197
01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:12,000
Speaker 1: standard of what they find worthy of promoting. Well, women

2198
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:14,640
Speaker 1: can get abused without going to a club like this,

2199
01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:16,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna be I hate to say it. They gotta

2200
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 1: abuse every single day.

2201
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:18,200
Speaker 2: You know.

2202
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:21,479
Speaker 1: Having a promotion about from a strip club has nothing

2203
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 1: to do with women being abused, And no one's making

2204
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 1: them work at this place. And I'm sure they get

2205
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 1: paid rather handsomely at this place, too, right.

2206
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:34,559
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I can't necessarily speak to that part

2207
01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:36,680
Speaker 2: of it, because that certainly is the thing, and it's

2208
01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:39,920
Speaker 2: the thing where we talk about when trafficking and those

2209
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 2: things are rampant and we're on hire alert for those things,

2210
01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:48,080
Speaker 2: you do want to be careful about the exploitation and that.

2211
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:50,439
Speaker 2: And so it's that fine line that the League and

2212
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:53,680
Speaker 2: Atlanta Hawks have to walk in terms of honoring an

2213
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:58,040
Speaker 2: institution that is near and dear to the heart of Atlanta,

2214
01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 2: while also being mindful and respectful of women not only

2215
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 2: in the city but around the country and the world

2216
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 2: in terms of how you're projecting what you're promoting in

2217
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:09,559
Speaker 2: those things.

2218
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:13,760
Speaker 1: You know, I'm impressed that you're using the word institution

2219
01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:17,640
Speaker 1: because that's what basically the Atlanta Hawks said that it

2220
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:20,719
Speaker 1: is an institution magic.

2221
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:24,360
Speaker 2: I would say, like in a weird way, it has

2222
01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:28,240
Speaker 2: to be something that is like the city. If you

2223
01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:30,760
Speaker 2: go to the city, you have to like experience it

2224
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:33,640
Speaker 2: because that's how tied it is to the fabric of

2225
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 2: the city. Maybe in LA people will talking about Pink's

2226
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 2: hot Dogs because I can't think of a similar strip

2227
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:43,320
Speaker 2: club or anything like that that would be a big

2228
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:46,200
Speaker 2: part of LA culture. But let's just say, like Abram comes,

2229
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 2: the Pink's hot Dogs, Randy's Donuts that are right there

2230
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 2: near the airport. There's certain things that when you step

2231
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:55,960
Speaker 2: into a city, because it's so talked about, you at

2232
01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:58,840
Speaker 2: least have to experience it to be like, oh, okay,

2233
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:00,920
Speaker 2: either I get it or I don't get why they

2234
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:05,720
Speaker 2: rave about it. But this is something that is interwoven

2235
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:08,599
Speaker 2: within the fabric of the city. That's how Magic City

2236
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:10,040
Speaker 2: is to Atlanta.

2237
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 1: I'm amazed because they do call it the city's iconic

2238
01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:18,200
Speaker 1: cultural institution. Now, look, you travel, you travel as a ballplayer.

2239
01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:21,560
Speaker 1: All your traveler is a scout. Could you mention a

2240
01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:25,599
Speaker 1: couple of other cultural institutions in various cities, because I can't.

2241
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:28,120
Speaker 1: I you know, I live on the outskirts of Cincinnati

2242
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:31,400
Speaker 1: and Ohio. I don't know a cultural institution in Cincinnati.

2243
01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:32,599
Speaker 1: I really don't. I mean.

2244
01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 2: I would say, I would say unlike. So it's different,

2245
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:40,080
Speaker 2: right because in Atlanta we're tiny it too, like in

2246
01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:44,519
Speaker 2: a strip club, whereas in New Orleans people that talk

2247
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:48,080
Speaker 2: about Cafe Dumont, Right, you go to Okay, New Orleans,

2248
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:50,360
Speaker 2: like you got to go there, like that's part of Mother's.

2249
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:53,960
Speaker 2: Mother's is a breakfast spot there. There's certain places that

2250
01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:57,040
Speaker 2: people say, when you go here, you have got to

2251
01:49:57,200 --> 01:50:01,439
Speaker 2: try X, Y, and Z. And that's one of the

2252
01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 2: many institutions that are in Atlanta. But Magic City is

2253
01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 2: definitely always included on that list because of his popularity

2254
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 2: and his popularity over decades. Like that's what it has

2255
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:14,360
Speaker 2: to be. It has to be something that is established

2256
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:17,680
Speaker 2: and has been there for so long that this is

2257
01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:19,639
Speaker 2: a part of who we are. And I think that's

2258
01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 2: why the Hawks felt compelled to celebrate it and honor it,

2259
01:50:23,479 --> 01:50:26,360
Speaker 2: and then the attention that it's gotten probably makes them

2260
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 2: want to double down on it because they know how

2261
01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 2: much attention they will received and they have it on

2262
01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:31,639
Speaker 2: that day.

2263
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's going to be a big night

2264
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:36,160
Speaker 1: next Monday night, and I hope that game is on

2265
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 1: TV so I can see what's going on. Because this

2266
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:43,200
Speaker 1: Louke Cornett is really adamant about them trying to cancel

2267
01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:46,120
Speaker 1: this and say the league should cancel the deal. He says,

2268
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:47,880
Speaker 1: I'd like to encourage the league of its owners and

2269
01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:50,719
Speaker 1: the employees to hold the Atlanta Hawks to a higher standard.

2270
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:53,439
Speaker 1: He probably doesn't know, I guess, he says, I and

2271
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:57,439
Speaker 1: others throughout the league were surprised by an object to

2272
01:50:57,560 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 1: the Hawks decision. Well, I don't see if anybody else

2273
01:51:00,320 --> 01:51:03,160
Speaker 1: in the league who wants to see this objective objection

2274
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 1: besides him. No, No, there's nothing. I haven't even seen

2275
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:09,639
Speaker 1: anything in the media about this, which so it must

2276
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 1: be what you say, it's truly an iconic good situation

2277
01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:18,639
Speaker 1: the institution. It must be, because normally you'd see someone

2278
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:22,800
Speaker 1: write about it, talk about nothing. After a word, the

2279
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 1: Hawks announced it. It's gonna happen, and it's gonna it's

2280
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 1: not gonna be canceled. And the commission didn't say boom.

2281
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 1: Commission has not said a word about this. You would

2282
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:34,519
Speaker 1: think that they would look and Cornett continues to say,

2283
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:37,120
Speaker 1: we desired to provide an environment where fans of all

2284
01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 1: ages can come safely and enjoy the game of basketball,

2285
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:43,160
Speaker 1: and we could celebrate the history and culture of communities

2286
01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:47,320
Speaker 1: and good conscience. I mean, I don't. I hate to

2287
01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 1: say it's in bad taste, but again, it's a business,

2288
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,599
Speaker 1: and it's a it's an iconic business in the city

2289
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:55,840
Speaker 1: of Atlanta. They're just gonna honor it. That's what it is.

2290
01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:58,080
Speaker 1: It just happens to have. I hate to use the

2291
01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:02,160
Speaker 1: term strippers may calm, showgirls, show girls will be I

2292
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:03,880
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know what to say.

2293
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 2: They just have dancers, dancers who were scantily clad. How

2294
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:09,439
Speaker 2: about that.

2295
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. I mean, is that? And then

2296
01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 1: he ends his He ends his editorial by saying, please

2297
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 1: join me in petitioning the Atlanta Hawks to cancel this

2298
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 1: promotion so as to ensure that the NBA remains a safe, respectful,

2299
01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:30,960
Speaker 1: and welcoming environment for everyone involved. You know, look, you're

2300
01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:32,760
Speaker 1: taking it to the next level. You're taking just a

2301
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:33,679
Speaker 1: little too seriously.

2302
01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:37,040
Speaker 2: You really, I mean, I don't know if he's taking

2303
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:39,680
Speaker 2: it too serious. He just he believes in what he

2304
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:42,240
Speaker 2: believes in, and maybe he.

2305
01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:45,040
Speaker 1: Just doesn't know you don't be funny. I would love

2306
01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:47,680
Speaker 1: to see this. I'd love to see tm Z the

2307
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 1: night of this deal or when the San Antonio Spurs

2308
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:55,320
Speaker 1: come to Atlanta. I'd like to see Luke in the city.

2309
01:52:55,600 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 1: I like to see him in Magic City, to.

2310
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 2: Him there, see him going there and advocate. You see

2311
01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:03,800
Speaker 2: if he can.

2312
01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 1: Say yes, hell, yes, yes, and his picture in there.

2313
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean, look something just I just thought this was

2314
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:18,240
Speaker 1: an interesting story because he is the only one to

2315
01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 1: stick his head above water and really complain about this.

2316
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 1: And you know, really I applaud the Atlanta Hawks for

2317
01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:29,080
Speaker 1: I hate to use the term maybe being brave, mean,

2318
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 1: but just stand alone. I mean, I don't think any

2319
01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:33,559
Speaker 1: other team has done anything like this. But again, as

2320
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:36,120
Speaker 1: you say, there's nothing like this in any other city.

2321
01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:39,120
Speaker 1: This is a true institution in the city of Atlanta.

2322
01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:45,519
Speaker 2: Yeah it is. And yeah, there's nothing quite like nothing.

2323
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:47,880
Speaker 1: Okay, now you got me.

2324
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:52,240
Speaker 2: No, no, no, not even like there's nothing quite nothing.

2325
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:56,960
Speaker 2: It's hard because if you haven't been there or whatever, like,

2326
01:53:57,040 --> 01:54:00,839
Speaker 2: there's nothing quite like it. Like it's it's a unique

2327
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:04,799
Speaker 2: spot to Atlanta. And I would think Atlanta culture certainly

2328
01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 2: has an appreciation for Magic City unlike any other. That's

2329
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:12,759
Speaker 2: why the hawkswell compill to honor it because knowing their city,

2330
01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 2: knowing their people, their natives, they know that they'll come

2331
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:17,160
Speaker 2: out to represent them.

2332
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:20,479
Speaker 1: Okay, just a few words now before we get rolling

2333
01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:23,600
Speaker 1: over here. Now you got you're winning my appetite. Is

2334
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:25,720
Speaker 1: there a mission cover charge? And if there is, is

2335
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:27,679
Speaker 1: there a show or you just go there and watch

2336
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:29,720
Speaker 1: women on the state. Tell me what it's like, fill

2337
01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:32,200
Speaker 1: me in, Take me in to open the door, let

2338
01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 1: me walk in. Tell me what it's like, Bucket Brooks.

2339
01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:38,600
Speaker 2: Gods, it's been so long way back. Like if you

2340
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Speaker 2: were an athlete or player or whatever, they were these

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01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:43,760
Speaker 2: things that you could show to get in on a

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Speaker 2: complimentary entrance fee. I don't know if that's still the

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Speaker 2: case there or whatever. Wow when you get in there, like,

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's show girls everywhere, but they're also

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01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:55,760
Speaker 2: they have a nice menu. They have a menu where

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01:54:55,760 --> 01:55:00,360
Speaker 2: you can watch girls, eat, wings, do some things, games

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Speaker 2: and stuff. In the background music music, I mean there's music,

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Speaker 2: but there's no band, I would say, thinking of being

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01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:15,360
Speaker 2: in a man cave with all of the things that

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01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 2: most men would enjoy that women stage, women are on

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01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:28,360
Speaker 2: a stage, stage walking around everywhere. Yeah, I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: it's it's all of the things that those who have

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01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 2: participated or attended in show girl clubs. It's it's all

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01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:37,200
Speaker 2: of that and more.

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Speaker 1: Okay, does where does Jacksonville play Atlanta is?

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01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. But even then, I haven't been there.

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01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 2: I mean I haven't been there. I want to do that,

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01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:56,080
Speaker 2: and we can't. Andy, we can't. We can't take you there.

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01:55:56,480 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 2: I can't get conscious like we can talk about I

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01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:00,080
Speaker 2: can't take you there. You and little dump Brak, I

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01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:03,720
Speaker 2: can't let yours go there. There we go.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk about that some other time. He's

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Speaker 1: Bucket Brooks and maybe he firm. We're live for the

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Speaker 1: Fox Bets Radio studios. But right now it's time to

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01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:14,880
Speaker 1: let it all out. The blame game is freaking next.

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Speaker 1: All right, the blame game coming right out. That'll be

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Speaker 1: in about ten minutes. Ten minutes from now, will be

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01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:21,800
Speaker 1: nine am on the East coast. Yes, we moved the clock.

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Speaker 1: We sprung ahead. He's Bucket Brooks. I'm Andy Furman. We're

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Speaker 1: live from the Fox West Radio studios at at the

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01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 1: top of the hour at nine am Countdown with Brian no,

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01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:33,600
Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz, and Bill Kracklenberger. But right now it's time

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Speaker 1: for the playing game.

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Speaker 2: You ruin me.

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01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:37,840
Speaker 1: It's all your fault.

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01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 3: It's your fault. This is all your fault.

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01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:46,040
Speaker 1: Maybe it's everyone's.

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01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 3: Faults, see the liar. That's why there's the blame game,

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01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 3: the blame game.

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01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:51,280
Speaker 6: Let's figure out.

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01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:54,520
Speaker 1: Who to play the playing game. Little dup will blame you.

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Speaker 3: Are you ready? All right, we'll put the blame on me, Andy, Yeah,

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01:56:57,880 --> 01:56:58,480
Speaker 3: wellam and you.

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01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:01,120
Speaker 4: We thought we could get away from after last segment,

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01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:03,200
Speaker 4: but no, we're bringing it back one more time.

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01:57:03,240 --> 01:57:04,440
Speaker 3: Here, guys, bringing it back.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to go there. You're right.

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01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 4: The Atlanta Hawks will be staging Magic City Night on

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01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:13,640
Speaker 4: the sixteenth, celebrating the Atlanta Strip Club, which we were

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01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 4: talking about last second.

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Speaker 3: Guys, who do you blame for this mess?

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01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:17,320
Speaker 6: Though?

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Speaker 1: Andy, it's not a mess, it's beautiful. I praised the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Hawks. I praise them. I tell you what, They're

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01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:28,040
Speaker 1: honoring an iconic structure of business in Atlanta. They should

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01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:29,840
Speaker 1: be praised for that. And I tell you what. The

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01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:32,600
Speaker 1: commissioner should go on record. He should be there that night.

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01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:35,320
Speaker 1: He should be Maybe they should play the game in

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Speaker 1: Magic City. Move the game to there. Is it big

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Speaker 1: enough fuck to have an arena there? Could they put

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01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:43,240
Speaker 1: about basketball caught down there? That's what they should do.

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01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:49,960
Speaker 2: Look, man, I blame outside as not understanding what Majesty

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01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:54,360
Speaker 2: means to Atlanta, and by and large, if they understood

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01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:56,760
Speaker 2: what Madis City meant to Atlanta, they would understand why

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01:57:57,200 --> 01:57:59,120
Speaker 2: the Hawks are paying homage to it. I would say

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01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:01,920
Speaker 2: it's a naivete of the outsiders that are to blame.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I can't wait. I want to go in it

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Speaker 1: with you.

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01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 3: Well, you know, Bucky, you don't have to answer that.

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01:58:12,760 --> 01:58:13,680
Speaker 3: Let's move on show.

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01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:15,720
Speaker 1: I got get better right there. Maybe we could do

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01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:20,520
Speaker 1: our show there. Well, maybe they let's do our show

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01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:22,880
Speaker 1: live there, just to see what it's like. You put

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01:58:22,920 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 1: discovery purposes, you know what I mean, investigative reporting. Cut it,

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01:58:26,520 --> 01:58:27,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what, let's move on to this one here, guys.

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01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:38,480
Speaker 1: So Miami, let's not after geez.

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Speaker 4: All right, guys, So taking is a problem in the NBA.

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Speaker 4: Who do you blame though, Bucky.

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Speaker 2: Look, I blame the way that they've said this thing

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01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:49,960
Speaker 2: up from the jump, having a lottery in which the

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01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:53,000
Speaker 2: worst team gets the most ping pong balls, setting them

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01:58:53,160 --> 01:58:57,440
Speaker 2: up to porchestrate quick turnarounds. I blame in NBA like

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01:58:57,560 --> 01:59:00,320
Speaker 2: they created this a long time ago. They're different that

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01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:02,200
Speaker 2: they could have handled this. But here's where we are.

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01:59:02,360 --> 01:59:06,360
Speaker 2: People are tanking. They're losing deliberately and intensively, and I

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01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:08,680
Speaker 2: blame believed they should have set up a better system

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01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:12,400
Speaker 2: for creating the order of the draft as opposed to

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01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:14,040
Speaker 2: this wacky system that they have.

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Speaker 1: Now, you make a great point, Bucket Brooks. They should

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01:59:17,240 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 1: do the draft just like they do in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Forget the pink punk bulls. That's the stupidest thing in

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Speaker 1: the world. But you talk about tanking if you've got

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01:59:23,320 --> 01:59:26,240
Speaker 1: a team right now, it's like Oklahoma City that basically

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01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:28,360
Speaker 1: is cruising and they're definitely gonna be in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: What's the difference for them not to play their starters

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01:59:31,480 --> 01:59:34,280
Speaker 1: or a team that's losing not playing their staughters to

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01:59:34,360 --> 01:59:37,280
Speaker 1: get a pastick. If I'm Oklahoma City, I'm gonna rest

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01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:39,560
Speaker 1: my staraters. I don't want them hurt for the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: So it's the same thing, right, It's the same situation.

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Speaker 1: That's just the way the system is.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, well speaking, you say system, well, I got a

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01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:52,080
Speaker 4: success system for the NFL. So part of the NFL success, guys,

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01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:55,640
Speaker 4: is quite simply less is more? So, who do you

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01:59:55,720 --> 01:59:59,720
Speaker 4: blame for the increase in games from seventeen to now?

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Speaker 4: See to be eighteen?

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Speaker 3: Who do you play? Mandy?

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Speaker 1: Anytime you have a question about anything in sports, you

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02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:07,000
Speaker 1: need to do trace it back to the money, to

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02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:09,200
Speaker 1: the move out of the green cabbage, to the guilt.

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Speaker 1: It's all about money, more games, more money, TV money,

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Speaker 1: whatever it may be. And you gotta have an even

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02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:16,880
Speaker 1: number of games anyway, So eighteen is not gonna be good.

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02:00:17,120 --> 02:00:18,880
Speaker 1: But what are you gonna do? More injuries?

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02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:23,280
Speaker 2: Probably more money, So I name ownership, more money, They

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02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:26,080
Speaker 2: know that if they add another game, that'll add more

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02:00:26,600 --> 02:00:28,760
Speaker 2: commons and zeros to the check. When it comes to

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02:00:28,840 --> 02:00:32,160
Speaker 2: the new TV deals, ownership is greed. It's a way

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02:00:32,200 --> 02:00:34,480
Speaker 2: to maximize the money and for the players they always benefit.

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02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:36,760
Speaker 2: When more moneys in the pot, salary cap goes up

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Speaker 2: means better salaries.

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Speaker 1: All right, we did a great job today, Little Dumper

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Speaker 1: is perfect having you here, Bucky. You have a great week.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you in the city in magic City, Magic

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Speaker 1: City next week. Right here, a Fox