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Speaker 2: It's the No Dunks boys back for a little NBA

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Speaker 2: free agency roundup. It's eight fifteen eight fifteen pm Eastern

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Speaker 2: on Friday, June thirtieth. I'm not used to saying the time.

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Speaker 2: I only tell you the date. I'm Jay Skis here

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Speaker 2: in the yard alongside me as always, tas Mellis.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're checking the clock as I was late.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's going on? You all right over there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Friday dinner. I ain't letting Bruce Brown mess up

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Speaker 1: my Friday dinner. No Way.

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Speaker 2: Priorities are right, family first, Bruce Brown second, and hey

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Speaker 2: that's the beard one top shot Hopway trickerby. Hey, Hey, YopE,

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Speaker 2: we got JD in the background, we got Jerome in

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Speaker 2: the background. Everybody helping out here tonight. Shout out to

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Speaker 2: the stream team joining us live on YouTube. Yeah we're

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Speaker 2: a little late, who cares. All that means is we're

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Speaker 2: going to be on longer as more news comes in.

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Speaker 2: So you're welcome.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: This has been a wild start here to free agency.

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Speaker 2: A whole lot of signings. We're going to make our

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Speaker 2: way through a lot of them. I will tell you though. Saturday,

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Speaker 2: Let's get over a thousand likes tonight because everybody's pumped up.

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Speaker 2: NBA teams committed over one billion dollars in salaries over

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Speaker 2: the first hour of free agency. Guys, that's right. Put

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Speaker 2: your pinkies into your lips. One billion dollars in the

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Speaker 2: first hour, and we had a lot of guys staying.

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Speaker 2: But as expected. Let's start with Kyrie Irving and the

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Speaker 2: Mavericks agreeing to a three year, one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: six million dollar deal. We got a player option on

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Speaker 2: this one task, but three years for Kyrie, not quite

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Speaker 2: max but one twenty six. What do you think.

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Speaker 1: The MAVs made a big deal to get Kyrie? Made

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Speaker 1: this happen months ago. It felt like Kyrie was going

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Speaker 1: to sign here. A little disappointed that we didn't get

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Speaker 1: any reviews of the potential meetings Kyrie was gonna have

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Speaker 1: with other teams though, that's the disappointing part. Was supposed

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Speaker 1: to beat with the Phoenix Suns, was supposed to beat

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Speaker 1: with the Houston Rockets. Huh, So that's the disappointing part.

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Speaker 1: We expected this though, although yeah, the max part not

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Speaker 1: happening a little confusing. Don't really have an answer for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, while Kyrie had planned earlier in the day to

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Speaker 2: take all these these meetings with other teams about free agency,

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Speaker 2: he decided that that three years, one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: six million dollar, that was great, that was enough.

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Speaker 1: Quote.

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Speaker 2: We planned to take the meetings, but decided that Dallas

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Speaker 2: would be our place. That's what his agent told CBS Sports.

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Speaker 2: I saw on Twitter. So Trey Kyrie as expected staying

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Speaker 2: in Dallas for now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what I'd love to have seen the pitch decks.

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Speaker 4: But apparently the big time number forty two million basically

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Speaker 4: per season is what did it? You know, Kyrie will

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Speaker 4: likely be the highest paid free agent of this free

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Speaker 4: agent class on an annual basis, and like tas is saying,

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Speaker 4: it's not quite a max, but it's still a number

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Speaker 4: that you bring to Kyrie Irving with respect getting the

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Speaker 4: relationship off on a good foot, which honestly is something

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Speaker 4: you have to be cognizant of with Kyrie. But I

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Speaker 4: think pretty smart of the MAVs to not go for

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Speaker 4: a full five years, so that's good on their part. Kyrie,

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Speaker 4: his third season of this deal, which is going to

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Speaker 4: be interesting for the Mavericks. But it kind of feels

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Speaker 4: like every season is a player option for Kyrie Irvings.

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Speaker 4: So who cares if it's a year three or year

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Speaker 4: one or year two. I would say every month, every

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Speaker 4: But yeah, he is staying there in Dallas. I'll keep

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Speaker 2: But if you guys have more to say about a

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Speaker 2: much here to get through. Our next deal has another

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Speaker 2: and the Bucks agreeing to a three year, one hundred

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Speaker 4: I would say, yeah, I think this is about what

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Speaker 1: Chris Middleton, Yeah, thirty four, opting out of a forty

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, you look at this number.

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Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, I have no problems with the obviously years here,

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Speaker 2: at six pm Eastern and as Draymond Green and the

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Speaker 2: Maybe the surprising part, task you tell me, was the

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Speaker 2: player option that Draymond Green has in that fourth year.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about Draymond for four and one hundred.

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Speaker 1: This is a very much a respect contract, four years,

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Speaker 1: surprising part. But that fourth year was a bit surprising.

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Speaker 1: his new role doing Draymond right here, do it steph

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Speaker 1: right by getting him signed. All that chatter about the

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Speaker 1: Kings a pile of houey. They got him and an

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Speaker 1: I expected around that thirty MILLI mark, So twenty five

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Slater has the breakdown at the Athletic Anthony Slater.

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Speaker 2: The first year salary on Draymond Green's new four year

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Speaker 2: extension twenty two point three million, so quite low. That

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Speaker 2: So this slices that projected repeater tax bill by somewhere

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was Draymond's scratching the Warriors back, and the

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Speaker 4: hop on with somebody else, perhaps for that fourth season.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, four for one hundred twenty five million per season,

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Speaker 4: that's completely fine. We're talking about Vucevich, We're talking about

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Speaker 2: Another guy staying put, Kyle Kuzma and the Wizards agree

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Speaker 2: one hundred and two million dollars. I honestly thought he

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Speaker 4: And it's kind of funny to think when Kuzmo was

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Speaker 4: the simplest thing won out is just going back to Washington,

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Speaker 4: where we might see the most hilarious team in the NBA,

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Speaker 4: Jordan Pool and Kyle Kuzma fighting each other to see

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Speaker 4: who can take the most shots per game. But this

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Speaker 4: That's a tradable contract. So we're gonna be talking Kuzma

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Speaker 1: The coups. Definitely a contract that will be traded down

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Speaker 2: If you won't finish his time in Washington this four years.

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Speaker 2: We're trading Kyle Kusma, the guy just signed today.

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, yeah, score more.

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Speaker 2: Who's gonna score more on the on the Wizards next year?

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Speaker 2: Pool or Kuzma? I might take that bet with you.

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Speaker 2: Why not? I mean that's a good it's a good trey.

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Speaker 3: I gotta go Pool.

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Speaker 4: off Okay, but Skeets, You'll be loving it every time

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Speaker 2: It pays to be Damian Lillard's friend, no doubt. That's

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Speaker 2: what I thought when I saw this one. Geez, wow,

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Speaker 2: You said it. Man, thirty two million here for a

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Speaker 4: The guy's gonna be thirty years old during this season.

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Speaker 3: He's maybe on the borderline.

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Speaker 3: So this is a crazy move for me.

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Speaker 1: That's I'm mad. I ain't mad at it. When you

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Speaker 2: Like, why is Jeremy Grant going to get any Is

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Speaker 1: He's not a second banana. He's a third banana that

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Speaker 4: But the problem then is that Lillard is making even

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Speaker 2: Just unless it's screwed as a rookie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, Like I slight concern this could

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Speaker 4: The continuity is going to pay off and probably haven't

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Speaker 1: Basically, Yeah, they still moves to make this Blazer's retool

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Speaker 2: are the five players staying put that we've gone over.

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Speaker 2: Kyrie with the MAVs, Middleton with the Bucks, Draymond with

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Speaker 2: with the Raptors for probably less money but longer term,

433
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 2: or is he going to take that two year like

434
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 2: eighty four eighty five million dollars deal from the Rockets

435
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 2: if you believe the rumors tasks, is that the decision

436
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 2: Freddy's sort of making here and and in doing so,

437
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 2: is holding up all the other potential Rocket signings.

438
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Freddy just cut bait. Let's just start anew in Houston.

439
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: It seems it seems like he's really talking to both sides.

440
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: And yeah, and you know that's his it's his first

441
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 1: love in Toronto. So yeah, maybe he's taking his time

442
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 1: and not saying no to them right now. But yeah,

443
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 1: as a Raps fan, it would it would be just

444
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: just a little bit of a palate cleanser, a little

445
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: bit refreshing to see a new backcourt, even though what

446
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: the hell are they going to do with that backcourt

447
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 1: if fred leaves?

448
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:39,479
Speaker 4: Uh?

449
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: But I kind of want to see it, see it happen,

450
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: and the Rockets two years and a monster deal for

451
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: fred makes sense. It would be wild to see him

452
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: get the most annual dollar value, which could happen. He

453
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 1: could even surpass Kyrie's yeah, forty two if they pay

454
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 1: him forty five per But they do have to pay

455
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: somebody to get to that ninety percent, so it would

456
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 1: make sense. I think that that guy has to be

457
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: there number one, number two, number three option because if

458
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: they don't get him this Dylan Brooks and even the

459
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: brook Lopez to some degree, it just doesn't make as

460
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 1: much sense. They need somebody that would that'll be their

461
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: point guard that's older than twenty and a half years old,

462
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: because they got so many damn young guys.

463
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Speaker 2: Trey, he's from Rockford, Illinois, Freddie, can you text them

464
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: and say, hey, can you do this while we're live

465
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 2: on the air. Can you make a decision. Are you

466
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 2: going to Toronto you're sticking there with four for whatever

467
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 2: you know, one point thirty whatever, or are you gonna

468
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 2: go to Houston for four for eighty five or two

469
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 2: for eighty five.

470
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Speaker 4: My dad lives very close to Rockford, so I'll text

471
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Speaker 4: them and see if he can take something over to

472
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Speaker 4: the water park there, because I'm sure Van Vliet will

473
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 4: stop by during the summertime. So hopefully, yeah, hopefully we

474
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 4: can get some clarification here. At the very least, it

475
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 4: feels like teams are or players are happy to be

476
00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 4: using the Houston Rockets for cap space leverage. Everybody's like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

477
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 4: I would think about going to the Rockets.

478
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 3: Well, what do you want to.

479
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 2: Pay me after all of these you know, reported signings

480
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 2: here today. I saw it going around right before we

481
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: jumped on live that it was like the Rockets with

482
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 2: like sixty million plus in cap space and that it

483
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: was like a massive drop off. I think it went

484
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 2: to the Spurs maybe next, and some of that was

485
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 2: dependent on Trey Jones and how they approached his contract

486
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 2: down to like thirty million and then obviously less. It's

487
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 2: like the Rockets have all the money left and we're

488
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 2: just waiting. We're really waiting on Fred van Vleet to

489
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 2: make a decision, it feels like, and then the Rockets

490
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 2: like either get Van Vleet and they start filling in

491
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 2: the rest of their roster with the leftover money, or

492
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,959
Speaker 2: Van Vliet says okay, I'm going back to Toronto, they

493
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Speaker 2: come to an agreement, it would probably be four years,

494
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: it would probably be in the ballpark of let's say,

495
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty million, at least of more than

496
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty million, and then the Rockets like

497
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 2: make all their moves after that, because we're waiting on

498
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 2: Brook Lopez and Dylan Brooks and a couple of these names.

499
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: But this one, this one was a little surprising. Bruce Brown,

500
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:05,719
Speaker 2: Bruce agreeing to a two year, forty five million dollars

501
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 2: deal with the Pacers. But but, but, Zach Lowe says

502
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: that second year task is a team option. But thoughts

503
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: on the Pacers just stealing Bruce Brown from the Nuggets

504
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 2: and from some of these other teams that really wanted them,

505
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 2: most notably the Lakers.

506
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 1: That's a freaking unbelievable number that the team option. So

507
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: they make the decision next year if we're going to

508
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: go ahead with this, or I suppose could flip them

509
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: at the deadline this year. I guess that could be

510
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: an option, which sounds a little crazy. But they also

511
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: wanted to spend their bucks somewhere. They had cap room,

512
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: so they got a desirable asset. Even if it's for

513
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 1: a really high number, they can flip it at some point.

514
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 1: But that's a that's a monster, a monster number making

515
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: up for years where he didn't make enough money.

516
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was the first one that came through on

517
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: Twitter Trey where I was like, nah, that's a fake account.

518
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: I was like, hold on, hold on, somebody got us.

519
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 2: That's a fake woes, that's a fake shams whoever first

520
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: reported this one? And you had to do a little

521
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 2: digging like hold on, is it really forty five million?

522
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 2: Is that a typo? But it's true? And again then

523
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,479
Speaker 2: Zachlow coming through with the team option on the second year,

524
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: which changes it a little bit, like, let's be honest

525
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 2: because you could start looking at it really as sort

526
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: of a one year for twenty million plus. But your

527
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 2: thoughts on the Pacers and how Bruce Brown fits with

528
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: that team do you like it?

529
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 3: I love it? I think this is really smart.

530
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 4: This is similar to like how JJ Reddick got to

531
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 4: the seventy six ers once upon a time back in

532
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 4: the day. They just offered him a huge one year number,

533
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 4: said come and try and help our team and we'll

534
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 4: see how it goes. That went okay, for them, not

535
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 4: one hundred percent perfect though, as Kawhi Leonard fans well remember,

536
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think this is pretty smart from the

537
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 4: Pacers because we talked about earlier today how Bruce Brown

538
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 4: was going to base have his choice of anywhere to

539
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 4: go for the mid level exception if you wanted it.

540
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 4: The only way a team could beat that is by

541
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 4: going over the top, which the Pacers quite obviously did,

542
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 4: almost doubling up the mid level exception. Very enticing. And

543
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 4: also I'm guessing Bruce Brown will probably start for them,

544
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 4: which is also something that has to be considered a

545
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 4: perk here right Like it'll probably be Halliburton, likely Mathern,

546
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 4: and then I'm guessing Bruce Brown has probably slotted in

547
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 4: at the forward there, especially since they're an up tempo

548
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 4: sort of team. Anyways, he'd fit in really nicely. So

549
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: I think it's worth to see how his veteranship helps

550
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 4: out the team, how his kind of glue guys status

551
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 4: just enhances everybody, and then you'll see if it works

552
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 4: after the first year, bring him back for the second year,

553
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 4: because the none of the cap number is going to

554
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 4: be going up anyways, the contract's going to look okay

555
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 4: and the Pacers have so many young guys already that

556
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 4: you can afford to overpay at one spot.

557
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been sort of cool to see Nuggets fans

558
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: task like almost happy for Bruce here obviously helping them

559
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: win a championship. Doesn't feel like there's any hard feelings

560
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: or something like that. Nuggets are in a tough spot.

561
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: They could only obviously, you know, give him a very

562
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: small amount at least to his trade market and then

563
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 2: extend him and get there maybe eventually. But I like

564
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: to see that NBA players really are just like us.

565
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's another job, giant payday. Yeah, okay, I

566
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: like my job here, but what hold on? They're paying

567
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: how much more? Yeah, I'll go. I'll try and make

568
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: it work there. I'll try and be happy there too. Well,

569
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 2: anybody else would do. And basically any other profession you

570
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: leave when they're like throwing a bag at you. And

571
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: that's what Bruce. He did here, So good on him here.

572
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: And then he comes back and has his retirement party

573
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: and wins a couple more titles with his previous team.

574
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he could go back at some point. Although

575
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: the Pacers, you know, they let's start looking at their

576
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: roster and Haliburton being the center of that team. There's

577
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: gonna be a surprise team in the Eastern Conference, and

578
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: I don't know anything Bruce bred touches. It feels like

579
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: it is going to be a damn good team, So

580
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: there could be a surprise team there. It is interesting

581
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: to see how it all shakes out with their their lineups,

582
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: because you know, Buddy still has to shoot the ball

583
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: and Mathurin likely yeah, probably going to starting role. They

584
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: had such a hole at the four last year and

585
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: Bruce kind of fits it. And I guess the Max

586
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: Truce offer sheet or a rumored offer I should say

587
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: that they had out there didn't work out obviously because

588
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: Max is moving on somewhere else, but they had much spent.

589
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:41,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it nearly happened to the minute when we

590
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: were talking about it. Oh if it on only happened

591
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: mere three minutes prior when we said, hey, Trey, could

592
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: you talk to your dad, maybe get something to Rockford Illinois,

593
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: talked to Fred van Vliet, help him make a decision.

594
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: It's happened to us. Fred van Vliet has agreed to

595
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: a three year, one hundred and thirty million dollar deal

596
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: with the Houston Rockets is what I'm seeing here. Why

597
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: does that board say.

598
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: Raptors conflicting reports?

599
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: Why does that say raptors?

600
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: There, my man, Jerone, that's me. I will go back

601
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: to my son. I'll get that. We've got the raptors. Man, Well,

602
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: you have.

603
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: Egg on your face because you were just praying Fred

604
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: van Vliet was coming back to Toronto. Take the board down,

605
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here. It's wrong. Van Vliet

606
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: is going to the Rockets for three years, one hundred

607
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: and thirty million dollars.

608
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: Three years.

609
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, three years one. I mean, this is happening right

610
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: this second. It just came through from Wosh.

611
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm a little surprised that that third year, considering

612
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: they're going to be paying some of their guys their

613
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: second contracts during that third year. I thought it would

614
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: be two years. And it made a heck of a

615
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: lot of sense for the two years, because you have

616
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: to pay somebody, pay an adult to basically chaperone your

617
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: kids for the next two years. But Jalen Green is

618
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: going to be a MAXI. He's going to be probably

619
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: close to a max I'm guessing in that twenty five

620
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: twenty six year. So you're going to be paying Fred

621
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: forty Jalen forty. I mean, these are just wild numbers

622
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: that I'm throwing out there that don't seem real. But

623
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: that's probably the money you're going to be throwing out there.

624
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: Joe Bari Smith as well is going to be making

625
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: a large payday. So that third year is an interesting one.

626
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: If it's guaranteed, right, it could be declining.

627
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: We don't, you know, we don't have the details. This

628
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: is just happening right now, right this second. This is amazing.

629
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: I love this.

630
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: I love the first two years though, I absolutely adore

631
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: the first two years. Yeah, I think I think that's

632
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: a great move. I think it's a lot.

633
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: On this morning's podcast, we love the idea of Van

634
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: Vleiet in Houston there, especially what we thought was going

635
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: to be two years is now three years, one hundred

636
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: and thirty million dollars trade time in here. What do

637
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 2: you think.

638
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: Fred van Vliet is one of the top twenty paid

639
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 3: players in the NBA.

640
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, that's on ourself, baby.

641
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 4: That's too much money, but perfectly timed for Fred van Vliet.

642
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 3: The Rockets needed a veteran, They needed a.

643
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 4: Organizing point guard, somebody who knows how to run a show,

644
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 4: and they had to figure out a way to spend

645
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 4: sixty million dollars. So forty two point five in one

646
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 4: fell swoop that'll do. But man, that is a big

647
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 4: time deal. I'm not too worried about the three years.

648
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Speaker 4: It seems like just solid negotiating from Fred van Vliet.

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Speaker 3: We heard the two four eighty five to ninety number.

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Speaker 4: Then we heard rumors that the Raptors were maybe going

651
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Speaker 4: to go for a four for one thirty. So surely

652
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 4: he went and called back the Rockets and said, hey,

653
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Speaker 4: they're going to go four years. You want to go

654
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 4: another one? They said, yeah, sure, what do we got

655
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 4: to waste. We're gonna have one guy coming up for

656
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 4: a contract in a couple of years. Here they're able

657
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Speaker 4: to do it so crazy overpay for Fred van Vliet.

658
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Speaker 2: But then's the circumstances, so task you'll like this. It's

659
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: not a declining contract. It's the opposite. Forty one million

660
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: in the first year, forty three the next, forty five

661
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 2: million in the third year. That's from Bobby Mark's shoutout

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Speaker 2: to the stream team for helping us out here as

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Speaker 2: this happens live. We'll take your word for it.

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Speaker 1: Wow, what what that the hell is that? I mean,

665
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Speaker 1: I don't want the thing to call a fake tweet.

666
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: Isn't a escalating salary, but I feel like that's fake.

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00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: I feel like, why why does that make any of

668
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: this guys?

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Speaker 2: This is the this is max money here, crazy Bensley Max. Look,

670
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Speaker 2: I love Van VLEI I mean we can say goodbye

671
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: here as Raptors fans now, I mean incredible, Like what

672
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: this guy has done in this league. This guy just

673
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: got a Max contract, guy was undrafted. This is wild

674
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: and it has the chip and obviously he's made an

675
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: All Star game and and all that. But yeah, you're right, Tray.

676
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: It's a funny way to put it. Like one of

677
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: the most top paid players in the league. But he's

678
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: not an All NBA player. He's a good. Look, he's

679
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: gonna help this Rocket seam. They're gonna win like ten

680
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 2: more games in addition to Udoka and these other pieces

681
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: that have probably come after this. But a part of

682
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: it will be Van Vliet, if healthy, running that team

683
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: with the kids, as you call them, tasks, it will

684
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 2: result in more ws. But holy crap, I will say,

685
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 2: I'm ecstatic the Raptors are not the ones like paying

686
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: this sort of deal. I thought it would be four years,

687
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty million, and this guy gets three years,

688
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty million.

689
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a great role model, so he's worth paying

690
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: him a lot of money to show him you want

691
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: to come from Rockville, Illinois and not be an undrafted

692
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: player and be a winner in this league. This is

693
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 1: what you got to do. But yeah, paying him towards

694
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Speaker 1: the end of that contract, that third year is a

695
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: little Yeah, it's it's a great negotiating move by Fred

696
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Speaker 1: van Vliet's camp. They showed them the Raptors offer, I'm sure,

697
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: and said, hey, you got to come close to this.

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00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: If you're not going to offer a fourth year, give

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Speaker 1: us a third and give us a fricking lot of money. So, yeah,

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00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: a great, great negotiation there. He obviously became the free

701
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: agent at the right time, and yeah, he's It is

702
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: strange because he's not going to be an all star

703
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: next year, but he's going to make forty.

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Speaker 2: Mil not in all I won't have a great enough record.

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Speaker 1: No, No, too many good guards.

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Speaker 2: In the West. Yeah, a lot of factors. Wow, Okay,

707
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: three years, one thirty Fred van Vliet will miss you.

708
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Speaker 2: He is going to the Houston Rockets. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: love the breaking news here live on the ear. If

710
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: you're just joining us as the numbers tick up up up,

711
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Speaker 2: hit the like button, make sure you subscribe.

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Speaker 1: I just got to go bet on myself. I'll be

713
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Speaker 1: right back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that is that's exactly what you should do. Oh,

715
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Speaker 2: he is leaving. I thought he was doing a bit

716
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: there for a second, but Tess is stepping off for

717
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: a second. I guess we'll jump back into it. Let's

718
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 2: go with the Lakers here, Trey, because we were talking

719
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: about Bruce Brown and how the Pacers got him and

720
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 2: the Lakers were targeting him, but they did some things.

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Speaker 2: Gabe Vincent, who I thought was going to replace Van

722
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Speaker 2: Vlid in Toronto, No, he's going to the Lakers three years,

723
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Speaker 2: thirty three million dollars to sign with the LA Lakers

724
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Speaker 2: Torrian Prince. I didn't see the details on his contract,

725
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: but he finalized the deal, or is finalizing a deal

726
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Speaker 2: with the Lakers. And then this one as we went live,

727
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: is Rui Hachimura staying in LA with the Lakers three

728
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: years fifty one million dollars. So just to go over

729
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 2: that Ruey staying three years fifty one, Gabe coming here

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00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: from Miami three years thirty three, and then Torrian Prints

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00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 2: coming to the Lakers as well, you know, looking at

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Speaker 2: it as a package here, how do you feel about

733
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Speaker 2: how the Lakers have done today?

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Speaker 3: Also, they are.

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Speaker 4: Bringing in Cam Reddish on a contract well, which I

736
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Speaker 4: mean that's just for completion's sake, you know, so just

737
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 4: to get the mention in here, I actually like what

738
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 4: the Lakers are doing. Reddish accepted, doesn't really change my

739
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 4: opinion on what they've done so far. But bringing back

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00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 4: Rui I think is smart. He showed in the playoffs

741
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 4: that he can be a valuable part of their rotation

742
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 4: with the size and the scoring he can give them.

743
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Speaker 4: We just have to see playoff Rui during the regular

744
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 4: season more regularly for the Lakers. I also like bringing

745
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 4: in Gabe Vincent. I think he's a really solid player.

746
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 4: He's going to help from a shooting perspective, from a

747
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 4: creation perspective, and he brings it defensively. I'm always a

748
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 4: little nervous when you sign a Miami heat culture guy

749
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 4: away from Heat culture doesn't always go well. Just ask

750
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 4: Josh Richardson. Just ask Tyler Johnson. Just ask Hassan Whiteside.

751
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 4: There are many cases of a guy turning it around

752
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 4: in Miami and then not having the same success in

753
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 4: other places. But I at least think this is a

754
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 4: good dice roll for the Lakers because Gabeant seems to

755
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 4: be a pretty solid player, and at the very least

756
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 4: they need some point guard help. They're also apparently looking

757
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 4: at still bringing back D'Angelo Russell. And then I think

758
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 4: Torrian Prince is a valuable death piece.

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00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 3: I think he.

760
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 4: Will be able to guard threes, fours a little bit,

761
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 4: can shoot the three well enough to be a bench guy.

762
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 4: I think he's basically a better version of Troy Brown Junior,

763
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Speaker 4: who they had last year.

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, didn't the Lakers and Wolves

765
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 2: just swap Torrian Prince and Troy Brown Jr. They're like, okay, exactly,

766
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: we'll try out your guy, you try out our guy.

767
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 2: I mean, similar similar players. Tassy jumping back in here.

768
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: We're just talking about the Lakers, Gabe Vincent and Ruey

769
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: Hatchamura staying. I guess we're waiting on Austin Reeves and

770
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: how much money he's going to get. They do want

771
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: to bring back Dandela Russell if you believe the reports

772
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: thoughts on La here tests well.

773
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Speaker 1: The game move I think means Dangel Russell is gone.

774
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: But all in all win as Angela Russell.

775
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: To Toronto, is that what's gonna happen?

776
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Speaker 1: He was working out in the city of Toronto, so

777
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: D'Angel Russell might what that makes no sense? It doesn't

778
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: seem like a Toronto Raftors player. But Gabe Vincent, I mean,

779
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 1: he's kind of seems like a Lebron a Lebron dude,

780
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: so I could I guess I could see Gabe working

781
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: pretty well there and rolling off in NBA Finals appearance.

782
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's got all the confidence of the world.

783
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: I think that's a really nice signing for them.

784
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 2: All right, let's keep it going here where the heck

785
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: were we? Let's talk Cam Johnson. He's staying with the

786
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: Brooklyn Nets. I guess I could have included him in

787
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: those sort of heavy hitters. He was probably making a

788
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: lot of people's I don't know, top twelve potential free agents,

789
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: but he was restricted and he is staying, like I said,

790
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: in Brooklyn for a four year, one hundred and eight

791
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: million dollars deal. So nice little payday here for Cam

792
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: Johnson as Brooklyn as expected to keep him tasks. We

793
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: didn't think they would let him leave being a restricted player.

794
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: Now they're setting themselves up nicely for the future with

795
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 1: mckel bridges as their number one type guy and Cam

796
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: Johnson a perfect complimentary guy. The only little wrinkle, little

797
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: hiccup that they have is they're paying Ben Simmons unfortunately,

798
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: So it's starting to hit feeling like the Brooklyn nets

799
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: of old, before the Kyrie Irving Kevin Durant experiment. Just

800
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 1: really solid players across the board. Let's see mickel Bridges

801
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: and Cam Johnson grow together with a supporting cast. But

802
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: they are a little hampered with the forty mil being

803
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: handed out to Ben Simmons. Big shoulders, and we'll see

804
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: if if benon is any can add anything. But this

805
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: is a great deal for a really just as a

806
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: prototypical guy for today's NBA. He's perfect, the perfect three

807
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: and D guy, perfect coplementary.

808
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 2: Gat Trey thoughts on Cam staying in Brooklyn.

809
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 4: I think they wanted to be more than just a

810
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 4: prototypical three and D guy if they're paying him this

811
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 4: much money, because that's quite a bit of money for

812
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 4: a guy who is a good player. But I think

813
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 4: he's a little older than people realize. You know, he's

814
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 4: going to be twenty eight during next season, so this

815
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 4: is the prime of his career. He averaged fifteen a

816
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 4: game last year, which is fine, but you would want

817
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 4: a little bit more from your second option. So I'm

818
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 4: sure the Nets are hoping that he takes a leap

819
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 4: forward because they went out and they paid him right away,

820
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 4: rather than letting him go and get an offer sheet

821
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 4: from somebody. They said, We're just going to make it

822
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 4: worth your while to stay here. We know you and

823
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 4: Bridges have a connection. We think you are on the

824
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 4: upswing of your career, so I think it's worth worth

825
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 4: the big deal, and I think he will play to

826
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 4: the deal. I don't necessarily know he's a twenty five

827
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 4: million dollar player right now, but by the end of

828
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 4: this I bet he will be.

829
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Speaker 2: And just to stick with Brooklyn because we're here. Right

830
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: before free agency started at six pm tonight, we learned

831
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: that the Nets were sending Joe Harris in a trade

832
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: and two future second round picks to Detroit. So the

833
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: Pistons get a twenty twenty seven second round pick by

834
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 2: way of the MAVs and a twenty twenty nine second

835
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Speaker 2: round pick by way of the Bucks, and by trading

836
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: headband Harris. There, the Nets created a nineteen point nine

837
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: million dollar traded player exception. Detroit. By league rules, had

838
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 2: to send one hundred and ten thousand dollars in cash

839
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: back to.

840
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Speaker 4: The bare minimum that you can trade, right, Like the

841
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 4: literal worst thing you could possible trade is what they

842
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 4: threw in there.

843
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think you either have to send one

844
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: hundred and ten thousand dollars or a top fifty five

845
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: protected future second round pick, And I think those are

846
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: league rules that you have to set it back. But

847
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 2: I bring this up in addition to the Cam Johnson

848
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: thing because Harris was definitely like pushed down the Nets

849
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: depth chart with Mikail Bridges, Cam Johnson, and then there's

850
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 2: Dorian Finney Smith, there's Royce O'Neill. He had the ankle

851
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: injuries and surgery there even said he wasn't the same

852
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: player that he was a couple of years ago. But

853
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: the Pistons tasks. They bring in a guy that can

854
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 2: obviously shoot the ball. I mean, he's one of the

855
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 2: best three point shooters. In the league and that's something

856
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: they struggle with. So they're hoping he gets back a

857
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: little more healthy and I could see him playing a

858
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: role here in Detroit as a guy that can stretch

859
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: the floor because they have not had a lot of

860
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: like sort of lights out three point shooters so over

861
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: the last little while. So this sort of makes sense

862
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: for a very very very very cheap acquisition.

863
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, they kind of were sort of renting out their

864
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: cap space in a way, like somebody's got to get

865
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: paid again, so they just said, we'll take it. We

866
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: have to pay somebody. Well they get how about a

867
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: couple of second round picks, So that's what they got

868
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 1: paid to take Joe Harris. Hopefully he becomes something close

869
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: to what he used to be, but really this could

870
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: just be a couple second round picks, so hopefully the

871
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: injuries have slowed his athleticism down. He just wasn't the

872
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: same guy last year. So it seems more like just

873
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: a book's play at this point.

874
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, and for Detroit, like because this happened

875
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: right before free agency really started, it sort of took

876
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: them like out of the running for any sort of

877
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: a big fancy free agent signings. Because I think they

878
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: went like their cap space went from like a projected

879
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 2: thirty million to like ten million after the Joe Harris

880
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: trade there, so they're not a whole lot left. But

881
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: what do you think just quickly tray on Joe in Detroit.

882
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: The price was right.

883
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 4: You know, they didn't have to do much for Joe Harris,

884
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 4: and they shouldn't be expecting much from Joe Harris either,

885
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 4: But who knows. If he can shoot threes, that helps

886
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 4: all of their guards. And they're big guys who are

887
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 4: penetrators and just want to make plays in the paint.

888
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 4: You need somebody to shoot from the outside. Bug Danovich

889
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 4: is one of them. Maybe Harris will be another.

890
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 2: And this is just a fun note for the sickos

891
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: out there. The Nets create a twenty million dollar trade exception,

892
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: like I said, by moving Joe Harris. The Nets have

893
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 2: five other trade exceptions. They have a lot of them

894
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: which expire in February. The most notable ones are an

895
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 2: eighteen point one million dollar trade exception from the Durant

896
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 2: trade and a four point five million exception from the

897
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 2: Kyrie trade. They have three smaller exceptions. But I know

898
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: what you're wondering, No, you cannot combine all of the

899
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 2: trade exceptions into one. That'd be great if you could,

900
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: but you can. You can't do that. So they have

901
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: all these now with this twenty million dollar one here

902
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: coming in the Joe Harris deal. All right, back to

903
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: the free agency news from the day. Back to the Raptors.

904
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: Give me some Raptors news a little bit more, Yaka

905
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 2: Purtle Tasks agreeing to a four year, eighty million dollar

906
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: deal to stay in Toronto twenty mili a year for Perle.

907
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 2: It obviously gave up a first round pick to get

908
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 2: them last year. What do you think of the money

909
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: here in the years for the starting.

910
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: Center, Yeah, yeah, I did it. I like this number.

911
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: I think it's it's baseline. It's like starting player in

912
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: the M twenty million dollars.

913
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: But Yak can Fucci line, that's right.

914
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: The old Vucevich line. Yeah. I think this is a

915
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: little bit more optimistic for the Raptors than it is

916
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: for the Bulls, considering how the age difference and Yak

917
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: was great when he came back this season, and so

918
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: paying him into his prime at twenty million dollars, you

919
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: gotta be happy as a Raps fan, you know, overall,

920
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: it's it's feeling like the same team without Fred van

921
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: Vliet right now. And they may be, you know, finding

922
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: somebody from a UFT run to play point guard for them,

923
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: because that's that's the confusing part.

924
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: I would love a chance beside, just give me a chance.

925
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 2: I played with Trey on Wednesday night. Did we lose?

926
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 3: I don't think we lost the game. Actually we lost

927
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:55,959
Speaker 3: our last game.

928
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: Okay, we lost one. But my request is if I

929
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: get a chance at point guard, Trey Kirby has to

930
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 2: get an opportunity as well.

931
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

932
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 3: I'll be cheaper. I'll be cheaper than a pearl.

933
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean those are those are the types of names.

934
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: I think the Raptors are gonna end up getting a

935
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: Tray Herby and a Jay Skeets. I mean that's where

936
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: we're looking a little it's looking a little thin at

937
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: the guard spot. So a little like Vouch twenty million bucks,

938
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: why the heck? Not Yack twenty million dollars, Why the heck?

939
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,479
Speaker 1: Not a really solid player. But overall, it ain't looking

940
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: extremely positive for the outlook for this team. But you

941
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 1: make this signing and hopes that he's a building block

942
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: for this team.

943
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and Trey talked about it when it happened.

944
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: You know, they did give a first round pickup for him,

945
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: so you were led to believe they would sign him

946
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: unless it was like an unreal number. And this is

947
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 2: not that I think we're all agreeing, and his age

948
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: and what he brings, especially defensively, this always sort of

949
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: is what we thought it would be ballpark, Trey, And

950
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 2: are you shocked at all or no?

951
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 4: No, twenty million dollars is the going rate for starting

952
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 4: centers right now.

953
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 3: Apparently.

954
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Raptors found out the hard way that you

955
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 4: have to have a center in the NBA, you got

956
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 4: to actually play a big guy. So they locked one

957
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 4: down for the next four seasons. I don't know, how

958
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 4: do you guys feel about the Raptors. They're basically, I mean,

959
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,959
Speaker 4: the Bulls are doing the same thing running it back

960
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 4: with slight changes. The Bulls added to their team. Obviously

961
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 4: Van Vliet is leaving now, so a big hole for

962
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 4: the Raptors. But I don't know, I wasn't looking forward

963
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 4: to the Bulls running it back necessarily. Are you guys

964
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 4: excited about the Raptors basically running it back?

965
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: Uh?

966
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 2: I would be excited if they really truly commit to

967
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 2: Scottie Barnes as the point guard on this team. And

968
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm not convinced they will nor can, and so I

969
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: will probably be less excited when it's like a D'Angelo

970
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: Russell for cryout out or something. You know, I was

971
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: hoping to Keith Alexander walk or even but you know,

972
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: he sounds like eas staying in Minnesota. There is a

973
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: big hole, a glaring hole at the point guard position,

974
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: unless it's like Scotty, go ahead, try and learn. We

975
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: sort of saw the Bucks do that with Giannis, like

976
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 2: back in the day a little bit. It's like, all right,

977
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: let's just so just give him the ball, see what happens,

978
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 2: go through the growing pains. That would be a little

979
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: at least exciting to me. And there's no way I

980
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 2: wanted to pay Van Vliet, you know, forty plus million dollars.

981
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 2: But I hear you, Trey, it's a little bit like uugh, Okay,

982
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 2: it's tough to get pumped up about a five hundred team,

983
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 2: refreshing new coach maybe you know, inspires them a little bit.

984
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 2: I guess that's a little different than the Bulls with

985
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: dark O coming in as the new code head coach.

986
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: But task, what do you think?

987
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all about Scotty. The Bulls don't have the

988
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 1: same optimism level I would say with any other guys

989
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: that the Raps do with Scotty Hopefully Hopefully.

990
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 2: Just had a bad year too, of course he did.

991
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this whole point guard thing, I mean, yeah,

992
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: he can be like a secondary creator, but it's not

993
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: like it's not like he's dribbling around and through people.

994
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: It's just it's not his thing. He needs somebody out,

995
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: they need a point guard, and they need to use scottymore.

996
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: But man, it's just not it's not him. Like he

997
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: could be maybe an Andre Goodala type point guard hopefully

998
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: one day, but.

999
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: Come on, dream big. He's Magic Johnson two point zero.

1000
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: He's basically lebron Man, give him the ball, get out

1001
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 2: of the way. Just about Pearl, though. I will say

1002
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 2: his teams always defend better when he's out there, and

1003
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 2: they generally outscore opponents when he plays like that's sort

1004
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: of been his momo. They were fifteen and eleven when

1005
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 2: they brought Perdle in sort of last year, so they

1006
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 2: improved the defense. He is like pretty vital to that end.

1007
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: So I think this is a pretty solid contract for him,

1008
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: and he's got the player option there fourth year Phil

1009
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 2: good for him. Moving on, Herb Jones, He's staying with

1010
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 2: the Pelicans four years, fifty four million, which looks uh,

1011
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: you know when some of these other numbers we saw

1012
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 2: not that bad task any thoughts on this one. We'll

1013
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 2: start moving with the pace here because we get to

1014
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: some smaller names.

1015
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: Herb. Yeah, they decided that they wanted to get into

1016
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: a long term negotiation with Herb Jones after just two

1017
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: years in the league, second round pick and given him

1018
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: a big a big deal for him and for being

1019
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: a second round pick. Yeah, overall this Pelican situation, you

1020
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: look at Herb Jones contract sure should be worth that.

1021
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: Even though he had a bit of a bad year

1022
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: in comparison to his first year. You know, he fell

1023
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: back a bit like Scottie Barnes that we just talked about,

1024
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: was sort of passed on the depth chart by Trey Murphy.

1025
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: But it's a good deal and you know, he is

1026
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: not going to make her break this Pelican's team, but

1027
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: they have. They now kind of have a lot of

1028
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 1: a lot of the same players and a glut of players,

1029
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: so it I like how they at least picked some.

1030
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: You know, they decided not to pay Jackson Hayes, Sam

1031
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 1: with Willie Hernan Gomez, and they paid this player who

1032
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: is a guy again like like like Cam Johnson, but

1033
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: for way cheaper that a three and D type guy

1034
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 1: that you want around on your team. So I guess

1035
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: it makes sense at a vacuum, he's not taking any

1036
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: taking these Pelicans to a promised land, but the contract

1037
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: makes sense.

1038
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: TK.

1039
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 4: I don't really have much else to add. It's like

1040
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 4: thirteen million a year for Herb Jones, pretty solid for

1041
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 4: a rotation guy, and he'll probably throughout his tenure with

1042
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 4: the Pelicans kind of go up and down in the rotation.

1043
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 4: There will be times when he's an integral part, and

1044
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 4: there will be times when you're like, they're paying this

1045
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 4: guy and not Trey Murphy. It'll look weird, but I

1046
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 4: think he's good enough that you want to keep him

1047
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 4: around because he's definitely got NBA skills that really stick out.

1048
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a quick quick intermission here. Right we're

1049
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 2: almost an hour in talking non stop signings, just going nuts.

1050
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 4: Here.

1051
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: We have the breaking news with Van vliet. We love it.

1052
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,440
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1053
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:09,920
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1054
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:14,200
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1055
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: this Derek White shaved his head, new look from White.

1056
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 2: What do you think, Tessie, Is this the first time

1057
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 2: you've seen in the photo? It's gone, My man, he

1058
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: took off all that hair that started, you know, away

1059
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 2: at the back of his head.

1060
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: The first time. It's the first time I've seen this photo.

1061
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: It's definitely the first time Derek White has ever seen

1062
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: himself bald, because I don't think he would have done

1063
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:38,959
Speaker 1: that if he knew what he was getting into.

1064
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 3: Oh, the shape of his head.

1065
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: It'll grow back, man. I like the summer, the summer

1066
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: risk taking. I like that. I like that, and somebody

1067
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: just just do something different for the summer. So I

1068
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: ain't mad at it. But I think hair is coming

1069
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: back pretty soon. Oh.

1070
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: I don't think it's that bad when you remember what

1071
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 2: is dude look like and how far his headband started back.

1072
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 3: To He has a youthful face. Guy's got a young face.

1073
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: Man.

1074
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 4: You know, anytime a player with long hair gets short hair,

1075
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 4: it's notable.

1076
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 3: I listen too. I miss his long hair. I can't

1077
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 3: deny it. You guys already missed. This is so bad.

1078
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 4: It's unique, Like if Trey Young ever shaves his head,

1079
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 4: that'll be weird.

1080
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 3: You know.

1081
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 4: There are just guys who like it's like when Iverson

1082
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 4: went from braids to no braids.

1083
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 3: It's just the change. It's jarring.

1084
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is exactly. This is exactly like Iverson.

1085
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 2: He's got a funny shaved heads. I've said this story before,

1086
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 2: just quickly, way back in high school, my buddy Brody,

1087
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: he decided to buzz my head. He used a beard trimmer,

1088
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: so that was our first mistake. I remember. We did

1089
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 2: it in like the in like a giant you know,

1090
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: almost like a pink sink, you know what I mean,

1091
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 2: like utility sink in the house, like a one. And uh,

1092
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: he shaved my head and he just started like laughing

1093
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 2: like NonStop. And I hadn't seen it yet. I'm like, like,

1094
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 2: why is it that funny? It's like, oh, you have

1095
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 2: the worst shaped head ever. And he was right like

1096
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 2: I looked insane. I looked so so bad. I got

1097
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: I've got some moles up on there. It's like it

1098
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 2: is brutal, So never again, I said. I was like,

1099
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: I'll never shaved my head again. I was like, I

1100
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: have to pray now because it's fairly young, right, It's

1101
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 2: like high school is like I have to pray that

1102
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 2: I don't go bald like and then I keep my hair.

1103
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 2: And I was like, all right, my mom's father has

1104
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 2: a good set of hair still, you know my grandpa.

1105
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: I think that's how it gets passed down. I'm never

1106
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: quite sure, but we're good.

1107
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: Anyway back, Yeah, you're good, you're safe.

1108
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 2: What do you mean, Wow, eternal grandfather's got a full

1109
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 2: head of hair. I'm forty three years old. You know,

1110
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: you know my hair hasn't gone. My hairline's pretty good.

1111
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: Like I think, I'm okay.

1112
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: Number one, you're telling, you're telling. You're not telling facts here.

1113
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 1: These are alternate facts. You're not forty three, number one.

1114
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, I'm forty three in a month.

1115
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 1: Oh is that what you said?

1116
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's correct.

1117
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: But you can lose your hair in your fifties. Okay,

1118
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: so that's what I've heard.

1119
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 2: Look, you want to shave my head when it comes to.

1120
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: It, you want a group group head shaved.

1121
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 4: This summer No, I definitely don't group head shave af

1122
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 4: we're struggling for a B block.

1123
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 3: We can do that sometimes.

1124
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 2: Okay, just test. You can't take off those locks. Man,

1125
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:55,439
Speaker 2: it's you're like known for your hair.

1126
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: My mom's father had very long hair.

1127
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 2: Is that true? I'm pretty I think that's how it.

1128
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. You're the doctor, isn't that of the CHROMI.

1129
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, the pass down from your mom's dad

1130
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 4: didn't come up in all of my doctor classes.

1131
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 2: Actually, well, somebody fact checked me on that. I think

1132
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: I'm right. Unless I've just made that.

1133
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 3: That is lives tale.

1134
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 2: Oh well, hey one for one in my family.

1135
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly, might be trick right here.

1136
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: Okay, let's keep going here. Let's talk about the Cavaliers.

1137
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: Now.

1138
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: The Cavaliers are interesting because there was a tweet going

1139
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 2: around and it wasn't from your woes or shams, but

1140
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 2: it was a report that max Strus had agreed to

1141
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: a four year, sixty four million dollars deal with the Cavaliers.

1142
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 2: Nobody's confirmed that that. That is indeed what has happened.

1143
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 2: In fact, I think we've left off with there's like

1144
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 2: a potential third team getting involved to facilitate Max Strews

1145
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 2: from the Heat to Cleveland and then a third team, uh,

1146
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 2: you know, getting in the mix. And a lot of

1147
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 2: people are saying, possibly the Spurs are that third team,

1148
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 2: unless you guys know something. I don't know. I think

1149
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 2: that's where we left off. And Streuce right now is

1150
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 2: still with the Heat with a great set of hair.

1151
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 3: He will not shave his head. No, absolutely not.

1152
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is an untrusted source coming through with the

1153
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 4: Struce tweets. But everybody's acting like the Miami Heat losing

1154
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 4: two of their starters.

1155
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 3: So I think it's gonna come down.

1156
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So maybe Struce finds his way to Cleveland.

1157
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 2: They have done some other things. They've kept tasks Kris

1158
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: Lavert two years, thirty two million dollars as one of

1159
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: their sort of key components there. And then the mini

1160
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 2: van is driving up to Cleveland. I don't know how

1161
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 2: far that drive is. What's Philadelphia to Cleveland?

1162
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: Oh?

1163
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 2: You ballpark?

1164
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: That is that? Like?

1165
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 2: Ten hours? Is that crazy?

1166
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: Now?

1167
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 3: Less?

1168
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: Sounds like a lot less.

1169
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 2: Where Philadelphia Cleveland?

1170
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 3: Oh? Six hours?

1171
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 2: Six that's it?

1172
00:58:59,000 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 3: I bet they're close.

1173
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 2: Actually, okay, well he's in a minivan, remember, Yeah, anyway,

1174
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: three years, twenty six million dollars, so the Calves maybe

1175
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 2: getting Strews as of recording this podcast and getting or

1176
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 2: keeping I should say, caroslovert and bringing in George Niang

1177
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 2: task you love you are, you know, a proud card

1178
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 2: carrying member of the Nyanggang, so you must be pumped, yes,

1179
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 2: but especially your Cleveland Cavaliers too.

1180
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh absolutely, I would love to ride

1181
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: in George Niang's van for six and a half hours.

1182
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: Just googled from Philadelphia to Cleveland to go play Cleveland

1183
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: Cavaliers back. But some say that I look like Max Strews,

1184
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: so maybe yeah, maybe maybe somebody thought that was me

1185
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: citing that four year, sixty four million dollar deal with

1186
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Cavaliers and reported on it. What am I saying?

1187
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to get too excited about Max Struce

1188
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: being there because it is a great fit. There's no

1189
00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: doubt that they were searching last year for that small forward,

1190
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: so he would really really help out if if he

1191
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: is that guy. Otherwise, yeah, they've solidified their bench greatly,

1192
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: but the money, I don't know the cap ramifications here

1193
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: if they are able to add eight and a half

1194
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: for Niang and still signs Streus. I'm not one hundred

1195
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: percent certain on that, but it feels like those are

1196
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: all players that would help them no, so that would

1197
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: all sort of make sense.

1198
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 2: Trey, what do you think if Srews finds his way

1199
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 2: there or even does it keeping Karris Lavert at that

1200
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: deal and bringing Niang in? Do you like this what

1201
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 2: Cleveland's done here in the first couple hours.

1202
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 3: I think it's fine.

1203
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 4: I think bringing Lavert back on a pretty cheap deal

1204
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 4: is totally worth it, just because he's I mean, he's

1205
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 4: a streaky guy, and he's never what we're expecting the

1206
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 4: idealized version of Karris Lvert. We never really see that

1207
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 4: for long stretches of time. But the price is okay. Niang,

1208
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,919
Speaker 4: I think will be helpful, just because the Calves as constructed,

1209
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 4: need shooting if they're gonna be playing Jared Allen and

1210
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 4: Evan Mobley huge minutes, which obviously they are, as they're

1211
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 4: foundational parts of their team at this time. Struce, I

1212
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 4: guess you gotta hope the deal goes through and that

1213
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 4: his shooting is real because I feel like he's kind

1214
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 4: of a streaky guy as well as we saw great

1215
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 4: in the Eastern Conference Finals, not so great in the

1216
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 4: NBA Finals. So is he like a forty percent three

1217
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 4: point shooter? Is he a thirty six percent three point shooter?

1218
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,959
Speaker 4: They have to hope on the forty. He's also kind

1219
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 4: of small, I would say, which means if you're going

1220
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 4: forward with a starting lineup that's gonna have two small

1221
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 4: guards in Mitchell and Garland, and then Max Struce is

1222
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 4: at the three, you gotta hope that Mobley and Allen

1223
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,439
Speaker 4: are up for the challenge once again. The Calves are

1224
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 4: just turning into a funny team. I think that George

1225
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 4: Niang on the Calves will be tass as number one

1226
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 4: most talked about player next season. It's just the perfect

1227
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 4: combination of player and team to hear about. So I

1228
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 4: think the Caves are going after the right players. They

1229
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 4: got holes on the wing and they need some shooting.

1230
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, Karis la Vert is you know in keeping him

1231
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: at that deal? I got no issues with that. He's

1232
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 2: just such an innings eeter too, right, obviously like an

1233
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 2: above average player. He played pretty well in the playoffs

1234
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 2: from what I can recall there, even though it came

1235
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 2: in the first round loss. So yeah, he sticks and

1236
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 2: Yang there and then we'll see about this Trews. But

1237
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: we'll move on to Trey Kirby's Chicago Bulls. Now, we

1238
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 2: already knew about the Vucevic resigning for the the Vucci

1239
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 2: line of twenty million per year, but they also made

1240
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 2: some other moves here today, and they are the bulldog

1241
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 2: go into the Bulls, Javon Carter agreeing to a three year,

1242
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 2: twenty million dollar deal with Chicago and then Kobe White

1243
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 2: staying in Chicago three years anywhere between thirty three million

1244
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 2: and forty million, maybe forty million is with incentives. We've

1245
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 2: seen both of those numbers. I just put forty there

1246
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 2: on the lower third. But Carter and Kobe TK, what

1247
01:02:59,480 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 2: do you think?

1248
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 4: Point Guard was definitely a position of need for the

1249
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 4: Bulls when Patrick Beverley came in last year, like probably

1250
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 4: the definition of replacement levels starting point guard. Just having

1251
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 4: that level of point guard play turned the Bulls into

1252
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 4: a completely competent team. So Javon Carter basically a younger,

1253
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 4: better version of Patrick Beverley.

1254
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 3: He's going to bring it.

1255
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 4: From a defensive intensity standpoint, the Bulls are hoping he

1256
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 4: is a forty percent three point shooter like he was

1257
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 4: last season, but hasn't necessarily been in other years in

1258
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 4: his career. But maybe they're hoping a homecoming keeps him

1259
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 4: hot from outside. And Kobe White really improved. He was

1260
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 4: a guy who I would have been happy for the

1261
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 4: Bulls to say goodbye to heading into last season, but

1262
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 4: he's gotten better as a defender. He's a much better playmaker,

1263
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 4: his handle is a lot tighter, and he was one

1264
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 4: of the few players on the Bulls who would actually

1265
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 4: let it.

1266
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 3: Fly from three.

1267
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 4: So I think bringing him back on a pretty team

1268
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 4: friendly deal is good stuff. Now they are unfortunately hard capped,

1269
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 4: so they're gonna have to find out a way to

1270
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 4: bring back Ioh for probably like a five million dollar

1271
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 4: contract and then get some random vas Tren minimum dudes

1272
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 4: on the wing because they're still such a tiny, tiny

1273
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 4: team right now. But I thought Carter was a pretty

1274
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 4: good curve ball that nobody was really expecting, and bringing

1275
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 4: him in I think he'll fit really nice in Billy

1276
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 4: Donovan's system because it's all about forcing turnovers getting deflections

1277
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 4: and that's something he's great at.

1278
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was a great little pick up

1279
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 2: there for the for the Bulls. Tacity thoughts on these editions, Yeah, not.

1280
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: A lot to add other than hopefully these guys stay healthy,

1281
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 1: and then these guys along with Caruso, can can get

1282
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 1: them out running and they can be a great defense

1283
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: like they were last year, and they can just sort

1284
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: of get a bit of an identity from the get go.

1285
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: And you know, they've got the offensive players. So if

1286
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: they have that defensive tasty with a couple of these

1287
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 1: guys DeRozan and Levine are healthy, I don't know. I

1288
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: guess on paper it sort of makes sense. You know,

1289
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: the scores, let's ad the Bulls are back. Yeah, I

1290
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: mean I hope so, I hope we can say it.

1291
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: I hope we can say their scores on This team

1292
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 1: had a few scrappy players, but yeah, I mean, on paper,

1293
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: it kind of makes sense.

1294
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 2: All Right, here's a point guard I wish the Raptors

1295
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 2: maybe could acquired, but he's sticking in San Antonio for

1296
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 2: a great deal two years, twenty million dollars. Trey Jones

1297
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 2: staying in San Antonio, be pairing up there with Weyama

1298
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 2: in year one. Task thoughts on this one here, as

1299
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 2: we probably can make these pretty brief as we move here.

1300
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, this is, you know, one of

1301
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: the players that's probably least known in the NBA, like

1302
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: one of the yeah, yeah, most best, best solid players

1303
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: that is very unknown. But yeah, I really quick, dude,

1304
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: And yeah, he's got a lot of skill and a

1305
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,479
Speaker 1: lot of potential. So it seems like a spursy player

1306
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: that they can just develop and grow and he can

1307
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,479
Speaker 1: be a key cog for them going forward. So yeah,

1308
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: Handle can can play. E can just play. So yeah,

1309
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: it's a great deal.

1310
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 2: TK thoughts on TJ no notes two for twenty.

1311
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 4: That's fine. Throw some aliops to Victor Webinyam and you'll

1312
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 4: look great.

1313
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. Okay another Tray Trey Lyles as expected,

1314
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 2: sticking in Sacramento two years, sixteen million dollars bonuses in

1315
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 2: play Kirby again. We thought this was probably the case

1316
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 2: after the Harrison barn In Earson Barnes excuse signing.

1317
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 3: The King's Kings went barning.

1318
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 2: It's been a long day, guys. We did a drop

1319
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 2: podcast in the morning, then we recorded Fast Friends for

1320
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,439
Speaker 2: Fast ten, which was like a two hour and twenty

1321
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 2: minute podcast that'll drop next week, and then we're doing this.

1322
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm running out of yeah words and structuring sentences. I'm

1323
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 2: struck all todaying right now. But Trey Lyles, Trey Lyless.

1324
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 3: Take it away.

1325
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:04,959
Speaker 2: He played great for them last year.

1326
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 3: All you need is two three word sentences. Run it

1327
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 3: back like the beam.

1328
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 4: The Kings are saying, we got a good thing going,

1329
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 4: let's try it all again. I mean, they did have

1330
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 4: some good luck last year, like no team was healthier

1331
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 4: than the Sacramento Kings. But I think, like you're saying, Skeets,

1332
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 4: Trey Lyles was pretty solid in the playoffs. He was

1333
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 4: great in the regular season, doing exactly what the Kings

1334
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 4: needed giving him, giving them versatility next to Sabonis or

1335
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 4: backing up Sabonis. So to get him on a deal

1336
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 4: like this, he's getting paid less than Trey Jones.

1337
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 3: That's pretty impressive. And Trey Lyles is a guy.

1338
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 4: I'm not just comparing them strictly Trey for Trey here,

1339
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 4: but they came one right after another, and Trey.

1340
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 3: Lyles has done it in the playoffs.

1341
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 4: Trey Lyles has now played for a winning team in

1342
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 4: the Kings, So I think a pretty solid deal for Sacramento.

1343
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 2: Task thoughts on the Canadian here and how he's developed

1344
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 2: into a pretty solid player at least last year filling

1345
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 2: in at the four and five position.

1346
01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think his playoff performance is a little overblown.

1347
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: He did shoot thirty three percent from three. I know,

1348
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: we all saw a good couple quarters and they're on

1349
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: you know. It was no bigger spotlight for the Sacramento

1350
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,439
Speaker 1: Kings that they've had, you know, in a very long time.

1351
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: So it seemed like he chipped in a lot. He

1352
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 1: is in a good spot, and so it is yeah,

1353
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: about running it back and hopefully them growing together and yeah,

1354
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: him finding his niche in the NBA. This is the

1355
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:26,719
Speaker 1: prime of his career. He is a really good shooter,

1356
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,600
Speaker 1: is a really good regular season shooter, better than he

1357
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: was in the in the playoffs, so he had some

1358
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: good moments, and yeah, the Kings are just trying to say,

1359
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: look at those Nuggets, we can try and do that.

1360
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: You know, just every single guy that's been there forever,

1361
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: let's do it one more time. So you gotta respect that.

1362
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 2: Bring up the Nuggets. That is the perfect segue because

1363
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 2: they saw Reggie Jackson on the bench and they said,

1364
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 2: this guy was vital to our championship. Bring him back

1365
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 2: two years ten point two five million player option in

1366
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 2: the second year, so very very cheap here, but this

1367
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 2: one surprised a lot of people because he didn't you

1368
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 2: do anything for them. He never played really outside of

1369
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 2: a handful of minutes there in the postseason, and yet

1370
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 2: they elect to bring them back. Tray any thoughts on Reggie, Yeah.

1371
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 4: The biggest thing from Reggie Jackson's Finals performance in my eyes,

1372
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 4: was that he was wearing two different shoes in a

1373
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 4: lot of these pregame warm ups. I know he did

1374
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 4: have some spot minutes here and there, but to see

1375
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 4: him get another ten million dollars just for being around,

1376
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 4: that's okay.

1377
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1378
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 4: Maybe there's a bit more of a role for him

1379
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 4: now that Bruce Brown has moved on to the Pacers,

1380
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 4: They're going to need somebody to come off the bench,

1381
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 4: and at the very least, the Nuggets need to retain

1382
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 4: the players that they had from last season just to

1383
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 4: keep those salary slots. And that's probably part of the

1384
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 4: reason why he got this big of a deal in

1385
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 4: case they ever want to move it for a different

1386
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 4: player who makes a little bit more money going forward.

1387
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: And I guess they believe that with a full year

1388
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: that he can help out because he was signed, you know,

1389
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: sort of midway through the year as a bio guy

1390
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: from the Clippers. So they've got a hope that he

1391
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: plays a little bit better. But I guess they like

1392
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: the the juju that he brought last year to this team.

1393
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: He's capable of being a contributing player, So he's capable

1394
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 1: more capable of what than what he was allowed to

1395
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 1: offer last year, So throw him in that role. He

1396
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: was a starting point guard on a team that went

1397
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: to the conference finals just a couple of years ago.

1398
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's still young enough. Yeah, he should

1399
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 1: be worth that five mil, even though I mean he

1400
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 1: probably played like five minutes in the finals. He literally

1401
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: played eighteen minutes in the postseason total. But yeah, this

1402
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,959
Speaker 1: is partly a replacement for Bruce Brown leaving as well. Yeah.

1403
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,799
Speaker 2: Did I see that the Nuggets are bringing back DeAndre

1404
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 2: Jordan as well. Yeah, okay, so they're just yeah, they're

1405
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 2: all vibes, good vibes. It was great we lost Brucey.

1406
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 2: He got a bag. Good for him, good stuff. But otherwise,

1407
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 2: we keep the team together here. Joe Ingles is going

1408
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:08,759
Speaker 2: to Orlando two years, twenty two million dollars. Joe Ingles,

1409
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 2: Remember him task. I remember you being very very pumped

1410
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 2: about the addition to Milwaukee, but he is now going

1411
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 2: to Orlando. And they had some money. I guess that

1412
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 2: they had to give to some some guys and he

1413
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 2: gets some.

1414
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: I'm a Joe Ingles backer. You think I like to

1415
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 1: talk about George Niyang a lot. I like to talk

1416
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 1: about this guy a lot. But this was shocking. This

1417
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 1: is a big dollar figure. And I guess it's just

1418
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: what you said, Skeats, that they have to pay somebody.

1419
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: And I mean they're paying a guy to also be

1420
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,799
Speaker 1: a bit of an adult in the room there in Orlando.

1421
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, what kind of role is Joe Ingle's going

1422
01:11:53,120 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: to play on this team? That's is he starting playing

1423
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: that much? I mean is that? I guess he's the

1424
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 1: small forward on the off the bench?

1425
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I.

1426
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 1: Mean what's the sother well they're starting lineup. I mean,

1427
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 1: I guess that's Franz's spot. But who knows that this team?

1428
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 3: Uh anyway, yeah exactly, And you can shore and old

1429
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 3: people love Florida thinks all the time.

1430
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's Australian, you know, probably more comfortable in

1431
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 2: warm weather locations. Played in Utah, forever played in Milwaukee,

1432
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 2: other cold city. Sure he's gonna be unleashed here in Orlando.

1433
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 2: Joe ingles That humidity and that heat man loosens them up.

1434
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:51,799
Speaker 3: You want a feeling looped up tonight's seats.

1435
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:58,600
Speaker 2: That's right. Eleven million per there for Joe. Eagles did

1436
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 2: catch me by surprise. Oh, the Wolves did a bunch

1437
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 2: of things. Troy Brown Junior going to Minnesota, Nikhil Alexander

1438
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 2: Walker staying there, and Shake Milton agreeing to a deal

1439
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 2: with Minnesota as well. Task thoughts on the Wolves on

1440
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 2: the first day of free agency. He or here free agency.

1441
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 1: Well, you got to bring to kill Alexander Walker back

1442
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: a must. He was solid in the postseason, even in

1443
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 1: a limited roly news role. Yeah, you got to keep

1444
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: him around. I guess these other contracts for Shake Milton

1445
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 1: and Troy Brown may mean Jalen Noel is gone and

1446
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: that experiment that draft pick just ain't gonna work out,

1447
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 1: So they decided to go a little bit cheaper on

1448
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 1: that front. I mean a little surprising that. I guess

1449
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: they they're going to do to Shake Milton what I

1450
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 1: think the Sixers wanted to do and try and unleash

1451
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 1: him as a backup guard that lights it up a

1452
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 1: little bit, because ye Shake I think was just underutilized

1453
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 1: because he is a six man has that capability of

1454
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: just of lightening it up. So yeah, there's my analysis

1455
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: of those guys.

1456
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 2: Sorry, I was smirking while you were talking there, not

1457
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 2: because of what you were saying, but just because we

1458
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 2: found out the Fred van vliet replacement in Toronto tests.

1459
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 2: It's not Angela Russell, it's not d' angela Russell. It's

1460
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 2: another Lakers guard.

1461
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: Though Shrewder, whoa is.

1462
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 2: Going to Toronto. Tess is pumped for some reason. Two years,

1463
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 2: twenty six million dollar deal. MASSI moving quickly here to

1464
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 2: replace Van Vliet Man. You're at the point guard position.

1465
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 2: So yes, Dennis Shrewder two years, twenty six mil to

1466
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 2: take over the point guard duties. They got a point now,

1467
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 2: they did get a point guard. And hey, look what

1468
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 2: doesn't Shruder have a long ass wingspand can't shoo that

1469
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 2: tea defense can't shoot.

1470
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an ideal raptor.

1471
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 2: Oh boy, all right, uh yeah, tastany I know is

1472
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 2: there happening in real time? Here are any thoughts on this?

1473
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: I mean, we covered it, uh I listen. His last

1474
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 1: it's been his last few years have been a bit

1475
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 1: of a roller coaster bet on himself. That bet did

1476
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 1: not pay off. He bounced around the league for a

1477
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 1: couple of teams last year. Uh, in his return to

1478
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 1: the Lakers, it was fine, it was fine. So it

1479
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 1: was thirteen mil crazy. No, I don't think it's crazy.

1480
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 1: It's just a little unfortunate that that's you know, for

1481
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: the Raps. That's what that's what this is. I mean,

1482
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,719
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's underwhelming for the Raptors and Raptors

1483
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 1: fans for sure, because he is a great third guard,

1484
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 1: I would say, And the Raps need a new Maru

1485
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 1: and so they're they'll still be looking for one, I suppose.

1486
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. But once Van Vliet signed with the Rockets, it

1487
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 2: was like, well, who the hell's left? It was like,

1488
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 2: I mean, who was going to be the point that

1489
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 2: they were going to go and a choir? It was

1490
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 2: gonna be probably like Shooter level. I mean, I guess, yeah,

1491
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 2: hoping to trade with the Wizards to get one of

1492
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 2: their backup boy cards. I mean, I don't know, Monte

1493
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 2: Morris or Delon Wright bring him back. It's like Slim

1494
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 2: pickings is what I'm getting at.

1495
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 1: At least it's not an overspent No, no, no, it's

1496
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,799
Speaker 1: not an overspend on D'Angelo Russell.

1497
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 2: Right, all right, so that's more Raptors News. Give me

1498
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,719
Speaker 2: some Raptors news. We're giving you a ton here throughout

1499
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 2: this show, all this breaking Toronto news, perfect time. Uh

1500
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 2: Sons were busy. They brought back Damian Lee, Josha Kogi,

1501
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 2: they signed Drew Eubanks, Metu baits Jiop and Utah Watson Abby.

1502
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 2: So the Son's just like it built their you know,

1503
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 2: secondary roster here, their entire bench in mere hours of

1504
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 2: free agency. That was a ton of money to work

1505
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 2: with here. But a lot of their guys that they've

1506
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 2: either kept or brought in here. The big one I

1507
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 2: guess people were excited about Trey was Watsonabi and everybody's like,

1508
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 2: oh yeah, Katie called that one in said go get

1509
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 2: my guy. I liked him.

1510
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 4: Playing with him, and he's a great corner three point shooter,

1511
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 4: specifically in a last season, just a good three point

1512
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 4: shooter all around, so he's gonna have easy looks. That

1513
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 4: was a guy that I would have loved for the

1514
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 4: Bulls to be able to pick up. So you know, realistically,

1515
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 4: most of these guys are going to be end of

1516
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 4: the bench players for the Phoenix Suns. But I like

1517
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 4: that they're taking a chance on basically very athletic players

1518
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 4: like U Banks is a jumper, Basically Kate Bates drop

1519
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 4: the same Chimezi Metu.

1520
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 3: He's a leaper as well.

1521
01:17:56,280 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 4: I think getting young athletic guys to just run the

1522
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 4: court and try and cause some havoc whenever they may

1523
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 4: be out there as a smarter idea than rolling out

1524
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 4: like you're Tristan Thompson level vets who are just old

1525
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 4: tough guys. I would rather take my chances just randomly

1526
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 4: having success running and jumping on the court.

1527
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 2: Task Any thoughts on the Sun here?

1528
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, at Utah Watson Abby a great locker room dude,

1529
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 1: I think is a good juju for that locker room

1530
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 1: and for that team. They brought a bunch of guys

1531
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: back as you said there, Damian Lee, who was an

1532
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 1: incredible regular season three point shooter, didn't work out in

1533
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:39,839
Speaker 1: the postseason so much. Josha Kogi, who was their starter

1534
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 1: h and could actually be will yeah yeah, could be

1535
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: their fifth starter along with the Big three, and DeAndre Ayton,

1536
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: who's not part of the Big four. It's the big

1537
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 1: three and DeAndre Ayton plus him. You banks interesting. That's

1538
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 1: a decent little pick up there. I wonder if that

1539
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 1: means that Jock Landale and or Bismack Biambo are coming back.

1540
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 1: But yeah, Trey brings up a good point about Metu

1541
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:15,759
Speaker 1: and Bates the athleticism. But this is they're not waiting.

1542
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 1: This is yeah, this is six guys to go with

1543
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:23,680
Speaker 1: the other four. So they're they're starting to fill out

1544
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 1: this roster.

1545
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, to keep up with all the Suns like

1546
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 2: moves here, I'd say twelve.

1547
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 1: I think there's twelve. I'm guessing they have twelve plus

1548
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: Campaign plus ish Wayne right who they just brought back.

1549
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what the Sabin Lee situation is, but

1550
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 1: we're seeing it. We're seeing their team here. This is

1551
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:46,440
Speaker 1: basically their team.

1552
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 2: Is it enough to win a championship?

1553
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: Sure?

1554
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 2: Is Watson no be the difference maker? So people will

1555
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 2: be leading the A bloc with come Monday. Uh We're

1556
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 2: almost done here, and again thanks everybody for sticking with

1557
01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 2: us here. This has been a long podcast, obviously a

1558
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 2: lot to talk about. Hit the like button, make sure

1559
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 2: you subscribe. But the Heat have agreed to a two

1560
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 2: year deal with Josh Richardson and agreed to a two

1561
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 2: year deal with Kevin Love. And again we're still waitning

1562
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 2: on this whole strus thing. They've lost Gabe Vincent, but

1563
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 2: those two guys in theory, they've signed two year deals

1564
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,680
Speaker 2: with Trey Miami Heat. Yeah, and I.

1565
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 4: Guess Josh Richardson will be maybe a Gabe Vincent replacement.

1566
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 3: I guess he can take Scruce minutes as.

1567
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 4: Well, though he needs a little bit of image rehabilitation

1568
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 4: in Miami. Getting back to basically Miami, Josh Richardson, it

1569
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 4: has not gone well since he left there, Whereas Kevin

1570
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 4: Love kind of as expected ingratiated himself to the Miami Heat.

1571
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 3: He had some good moments.

1572
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,600
Speaker 4: In the playoffs, was also unplayable come the finals. But

1573
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 4: I think at the very least, the Heat value of

1574
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 4: the continuity and the veteranship a guy like Kevin Love

1575
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 4: is going to bring going.

1576
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 1: Forward Heat culture. Man, maybe they can bring the most

1577
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,639
Speaker 1: Josh Richardson because he was a really good player there

1578
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 1: and earned his reputation, and his first four years went

1579
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 1: to Philly where they tried to make him and on

1580
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 1: the ball guy and it didn't really work out, but

1581
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 1: he can still shoot it. He was really good in

1582
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 1: New Orleans at the end of last year after moving

1583
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 1: on from the Spurs. Still a good player. If he's

1584
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: off the ball in that streus, we're in that shoo's role.

1585
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe why the heck not?

1586
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry, my basketball reference page just started talking to

1587
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 4: me while I.

1588
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 3: Was Josh Richards information. A lot of pop up ads.

1589
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 2: I thought, I thought, was your wife talking about accounts

1590
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,600
Speaker 2: for something. That's why I thought I heard maybe some

1591
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 2: like news here from free agency is there are reports

1592
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 2: that Porzingis and the Celtics are expected to finalize a

1593
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 2: two year, sixty million dollar extension. This was going around

1594
01:21:56,920 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 2: fairly early, but that is it. I think we've honestly

1595
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 2: touched on basically every signing through the first now three

1596
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 2: and a half hours since it kicked off at six

1597
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 2: pm Eastern, it's about nine thirty now, and man shout

1598
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 2: out to the Raptors for like giving us the breaking

1599
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 2: news with Van Vliet going to the Rockets for an

1600
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 2: insane amount of money and then Massiah quickly pivoting to

1601
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 2: Dennis Shrewder for the two year twenty six million dollar deal.

1602
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 2: Anything I've left.

1603
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 3: Okay, I've a new piece of slop right here.

1604
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:37,520
Speaker 4: Set oh shapeer Set is going to the Boston Celtics

1605
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 4: on a two year deal.

1606
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, it's Canada Day tomorrow, so I'm

1607
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 2: fucking pumped to here. Brooke signs. We already got Trey Lyles,

1608
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 2: n Kaile, Alexander Walker. This is good. So who are

1609
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 2: the big names left at this point?

1610
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:56,719
Speaker 1: Then? Well it's also there's a cup. Well, Cam Redish

1611
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 1: also signed with the Los Angeles.

1612
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:00,040
Speaker 2: You you had gotten up and taken a crap. We

1613
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 2: already talked about it.

1614
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 1: Oh man, I was. I was popping my Julian Champenny

1615
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,759
Speaker 1: because he's signing with Antonio Spurs.

1616
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, good these are this is nice little mini slops.

1617
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 2: You guys are dropping here.

1618
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 1: What about the slap? Just to confirm the number three?

1619
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: We talked about the.

1620
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,839
Speaker 2: Lakers while you were gone. Yeah, that was the Lakers segment.

1621
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 1: Oh, sorry about that?

1622
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,759
Speaker 2: That's all right. Who are the biggest free agents available?

1623
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 2: Brook Lopez, Yeah, Dangelo.

1624
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 1: Russe, literally the biggest.

1625
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:33,440
Speaker 2: Miles Bridges is restricted. Uh, Westbrook, we all feel about him, Westbrook,

1626
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 2: Austin Reeves, I guess we're still waiting on PJ. Washington,

1627
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 2: another Hornets player we're still waiting on. He's restricted. Yeah,

1628
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 2: that's about it. And uh oh yeah, James Harden being

1629
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:50,759
Speaker 2: traded Damian Oh, here's here's another little slopper for you. Okay,

1630
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 2: Seth Curry two year deal with the Dallas Mavericks. Okay,

1631
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 2: that's a good one.

1632
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 3: He's a good player, I think.

1633
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 2: But we don't have terms on that money wise. But

1634
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 2: two years.

1635
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of two year deals, A lot of

1636
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 3: two year deals.

1637
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh gee, I wonder why wow, two thousand and

1638
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 2: six the media rites deal kicking in. Yeah, that's going

1639
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 2: to change things for sure. Smart smart smart. All right,

1640
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 2: there it is, guys, who's the big winner? Let's say that.

1641
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 2: Let's end with this. I know it is a lot

1642
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 2: to take in, But who Trey in your opinion, team

1643
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:35,600
Speaker 2: or player? Not Derek White's barber, because that would be

1644
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 2: a loser because he's gonna lose a lot of money. Now,

1645
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 2: who's the big winner for you? From the first couple

1646
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:41,440
Speaker 2: of hours of free agency.

1647
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 4: You know, looking at it, most players went back to

1648
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 4: their original team. Fred van Vliet the biggest name who changed.

1649
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 4: I would say so biggest winners for me got to

1650
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 4: be Fred Van Vliet and Bruce Brown because they get

1651
01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 4: just massive, massive bags by being willing to leave their situations.

1652
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 4: Quite honestly, you know, Bruce Brown saw, I can make

1653
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 4: four times as much money as I made this past season. Yeah,

1654
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 4: I'll go play for the Pacers for at least one season.

1655
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 4: And then Fred van Vliet, like we're saying, the guy's

1656
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 4: getting paid like a top twenty player in the NBA

1657
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 4: just because he happened to be a point guard veteran

1658
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 4: in the summer of twenty twenty three. So those are

1659
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 4: the two big winners for me, because when I look

1660
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 4: at the landscape of things, I don't necessarily know that

1661
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 4: there are any free agency signings we've seen today that

1662
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 4: really change the tenor of the league.

1663
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 2: Task. Have you had to pick a winner, who would

1664
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 2: you go with?

1665
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:42,480
Speaker 1: Two words? Eight letters? Rich Paul.

1666
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he need a lot of money today.

1667
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 1: Yes he did. Yeah, he's got eight letters in his name.

1668
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 1: He says, I ain't talking to you unless you start

1669
01:25:54,360 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 1: talking eight figures. No, that's not enough. Let's make it nine.

1670
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 1: Draymond Green, Jeremy Grant, Fred Van Vliet, big big moneies

1671
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 1: clutch baby.

1672
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 2: Say that again, Say that again. Oh my god, what

1673
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 2: have we got a board for this?

1674
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 1: Yes we do. Paul Wins free agency board. He's on

1675
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:20,839
Speaker 1: the phone.

1676
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 2: Isn't a million.

1677
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't look really convincing in this picture if you're

1678
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 1: on YouTube with us, but he is doing some convincing.

1679
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 1: He's saying, you want Draymond Green, you gotta give us

1680
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 1: a fourth year. You want Fred van Vliet, you got

1681
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 1: to give us a third year. You want Damian Lillard's

1682
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:39,799
Speaker 1: best friend. You gotta give us five for one sixty

1683
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: for Jeremy Grant, so good work by him.

1684
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 2: I uh, I feel like there's not a lot of like, ooh,

1685
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 2: what the hell are you guys doing? You know, there's

1686
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 2: not a lot of that. Sure, there's like some crazy numbers,

1687
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 2: Van Vleet being one in them. We already talked about that,

1688
01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 2: but we sort of knew the Rockets would overpay me

1689
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 2: because they're like, we want a veteran point guard in

1690
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 2: here to help us try and win games. So as

1691
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 2: we sort of get that, and maybe it was more

1692
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 2: than the two years. It was more than two years

1693
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 2: being the third year, so that was a little surprising.

1694
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 2: But there's not a lot where I'm like, Ugh, what

1695
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:14,640
Speaker 2: the hell, why maybe Jeremy Grant. Really you're trying to

1696
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 2: convince me he's worth that much. But I like what

1697
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 2: the Lakers have done. If the Lakers, and they probably

1698
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 2: will keep Austin Reeves. These are nice. These are nice

1699
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 2: little moves you know that they've done here with Gabe

1700
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 2: Vincent coming in sort of as a Shrewder replacement. We

1701
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 2: see what they'll do with de Andrew old Russell. But

1702
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 2: Ruey sticking around, I don't think is an overpay, especially

1703
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 2: as these numbers go up up, up for what fifty

1704
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 2: one million he eventually got. I swapped in Prince for

1705
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 2: Troy Brown Junior. I think that's actually an upgrade. You know.

1706
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 2: I joked that they were sort of the same player,

1707
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 2: but I think Prince it is better. It was a

1708
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 2: pretty good little day here. I mean, they are a

1709
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 2: team that couldn't like make a big, splashy move, but

1710
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 2: I like the additions there. But overall, I'm not super

1711
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 2: upset with that A lot of these teams did, and

1712
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 2: that's probably because a lot of them just stayed with

1713
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 2: their team. Yeah, Like a lot of the big names

1714
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 2: as exactly as we expected when we were talking on

1715
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,679
Speaker 2: no dunks all week long. We were like, yeah, there'll

1716
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 2: be like one or two guys that probably change, but

1717
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 2: even KU's staying in Washington. All right, Well, let's let's

1718
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 2: call it there. An hour and a half been, We've

1719
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 2: done a lot of podcasting today. We appreciate you joining

1720
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,640
Speaker 2: us live here tonight on a Friday night. Hit the

1721
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 2: like button, make sure you subscribe. That's all we ask.

1722
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 2: It's not a lot. We're not asking for a three

1723
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 2: year ninety million dollar deal. We're not asking for a

1724
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:31,759
Speaker 2: two year, twenty six million dollar deal with a player

1725
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 2: option in the second year. We're just asking for a

1726
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 2: fucking like for maybe a subscription to our YouTube page.

1727
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 2: It's not a lot. It's a great deal. It's you know,

1728
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:45,679
Speaker 2: basically the VETS minimum of requests. So help us out

1729
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 2: if you can. We'd appreciate it. We will be back

1730
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 2: next week. We'll have a couple of shows before we

1731
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 2: head to Las Vegas. If you're in Vegas for Summer League,

1732
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 2: come hang with us at the MGM Grand at the

1733
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 2: Sportsbook there on Saturday, July eighth, at four pm local time.

1734
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:04,640
Speaker 2: We will be in the building on Friday night for

1735
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 2: webbin Yama and his first game in Summer League with

1736
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 2: the Spurs. I think we're gonna do a podcast live

1737
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 2: from there in the concourse a little bit later, so

1738
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,600
Speaker 2: all you podcast listeners and everybody watching on YouTube, you

1739
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 2: will to check that out. So yeah, Vegas, Baby, are

1740
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 2: you guys ready? You packed yet?

1741
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 3: No?

1742
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 4: No, no, I got nothing packed.

1743
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:27,639
Speaker 3: I'm looking at my floor.

1744
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 4: I'm a packing staging area and all I'm seeing is overalls.

1745
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 3: Vegasgas.

1746
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 2: No, No, you just packed. You packed shorts. You don't

1747
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 2: even dare I say it? Don't even bring pants?

1748
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 3: Oh you're saying, go ellis mode.

1749
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:48,520
Speaker 1: No, no pants, straight short.

1750
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,639
Speaker 2: Pants for no dogs. Man, it's like one hundred and

1751
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 2: ten that they're saying, I think in Vega. No, it's

1752
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 2: a dry heat. It's a dry heat. It's basically cold.

1753
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 2: It's basically cold, but I can't even feel it. No, no,

1754
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 2: but uh, oh my god, it's gonna be a warm one.

1755
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 2: But I can't wait. So anyway, appreciate you guys joining

1756
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 2: us again. Clipper bros. Let's do it. You heard it

1757
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 2: here first, have a great time, turn up, love you guys, awesome.

1758
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 1: Oh man, thanks for joining us. And remember his name

1759
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 1: is Dennis Schreter, If only it was Dennis Shooter.

1760
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 2: Embrace the weekend. People, Happy Cana today,