Speaker 1: Cool media.
Speaker 2: Welcome to and it could happen here special Report. I'm
Speaker 2: Garrison Davis. I'm joined by James Stout and Sophie right Laterman,
Speaker 2: we are here to discuss Trump's first Joint Session speech
Speaker 2: of his second term. This is basically the equivalent of
Speaker 2: a State of the Union, except it's too early to
Speaker 2: really give a good state of the Union, even though
Speaker 2: this month has felt kind of like a year. So
Speaker 2: we are doing a special report here in addition to
Speaker 2: our regular Executive Disorder episode because there is just so
Speaker 2: much to talk about that we cannot fit it all
Speaker 2: in our regular EDA. Pause for effect. Okay, this was
Speaker 2: us speaking of This was the longest joint Session speech
Speaker 2: in American history, and man, it felt like it lasted
Speaker 2: for ever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, and boy, howdy did it
Speaker 1: feel never ending?
Speaker 2: It went on so long.
Speaker 3: Not a great feat of ar tree. Really.
Speaker 2: I was supposed to watch some Yawi with a friend
Speaker 2: last night and they came over and I was like, haha,
Speaker 2: I gotcha. Actually I have to watch this this speech first.
Speaker 2: Don't worry. Usually it's only like an hour or so.
Speaker 1: Two I did the exact same two hours later, I
Speaker 1: did the exact same scam to my friend Sarah. She
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I seriously love you, right, because
Speaker 1: this is horrible, horrible.
Speaker 2: Two hours later, it finally ends and they're like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we can finally watch yowie, right, And I'm like, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I have to watch the Democratic response speech. Don't worry.
Speaker 2: It should be shorter, and thankfully it was. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 2: let's let's just start by talking about like the beginning
Speaker 2: of this speech, or rather with the general overview of
Speaker 2: this speech was this was not a leaning across the
Speaker 2: aisle speech, right, This wasn't trying to night the country.
Speaker 1: No, it was not, but you know, just catered to.
Speaker 2: Core like mega supporters and new issues at the center
Speaker 2: of the modern right wing media machine. The version of
Speaker 2: the speech I watched on on ABC frequently cut to
Speaker 2: Matt Walsh and Ben Shapiro sitting together overlooking Congress as
Speaker 2: they were special guests of the President and the First Lady.
Speaker 1: Yes, magic, they did they did this. They did the
Speaker 1: same on CNN. I switched back and forth between a
Speaker 1: couple of channels. I noted this to our team, but
Speaker 1: when I first looked up, like what time the speech
Speaker 1: was starting? I turned on my TV and went to
Speaker 1: see it in and I happened upon the them talking
Speaker 1: about if Dems should not applaud or if they should heckle,
Speaker 1: and some motherfucker I don't care about said that Gems
Speaker 1: should find places to applaud him to show unity.
Speaker 3: Cool. Sure, yeah, mm hmm. That's always worked well.
Speaker 1: Dems should find places to applaud him, to apprawd.
Speaker 2: The king, approd the king for ruining the governments, firing
Speaker 2: all the workers. Give him a clap. Why don't you sorry, James?
Speaker 2: I realized that got a little insensitive.
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, Garrison, this is why we have to watch
Speaker 3: those videos where the bad actors talk about how they feel.
Speaker 1: Not anymore talking about our workplace harassment videos.
Speaker 2: EEI is over, James. No more of those videos here
Speaker 2: in the free State of Georgia. That's illegal.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, here in California, I have approximately seventy five little
Speaker 3: little red bells and I log into my work day.
Speaker 2: But like a single time. Early in the speech, Trump
Speaker 2: asked Democrats why not join us in celebrating America? After
Speaker 2: he complained I could cure any disease, and these people
Speaker 2: sitting right here, the Democrats, they would not cheer. I
Speaker 2: could cure any disease and these people wouldn't cheer.
Speaker 1: No, No, that was weird. I mean, like some Dums
Speaker 1: didn't even show up. They had the subcab of wearing
Speaker 1: certain cars. They did the same performative bullshit they always do,
Speaker 1: and they had what I can only describe as like
Speaker 1: church paddles.
Speaker 2: The statist the statistic signs on it.
Speaker 1: They were they weren't even like I mean, like, come on,
Speaker 1: like a.
Speaker 2: Description. But no. Some Dems did not show up in protest.
Speaker 2: Others were black, kind of like in mourning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who cares.
Speaker 2: Some of the women's caucus were pink, very cool, very feminist,
Speaker 2: and others were the colors of the Ukrainian flag. Sure
Speaker 2: that will help, but you know, Trump just pointed towards
Speaker 2: the Democrats side of the chamber throughout the night and
Speaker 2: just referred to them as the radical left lunatics. Like
Speaker 2: this This was not across the aisle speed, No, it wasn't.
Speaker 2: This was this was, if anything, emphasizing the divisions within
Speaker 2: the country.
Speaker 1: One of the one of the things that happened before
Speaker 1: the speech even started was like he drove in with
Speaker 1: Malania and.
Speaker 2: You first, lady and first bitch boy.
Speaker 3: Yeah weird, yeah, h first buddy, Garrison. First buddy is
Speaker 3: the official term first buddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, but like, you know, Trump starts
Speaker 1: off the speech.
Speaker 2: With America is back.
Speaker 1: And like how far back are we talking? Because you're not.
Speaker 3: Wrong, yeah, like eighteen sixty four. I think it's the
Speaker 3: it's the goal.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the same phrase that that Biden
Speaker 2: opened his first speech with as well. I think Biden
Speaker 2: was referring to, like we are back to pre Trump America,
Speaker 2: and now Trump is using this phrase to refer to
Speaker 2: like this like mythical America. Right, sure, but no, Trump
Speaker 2: took the stage to us a chance throughout yeah, throughout
Speaker 2: the rotunda.
Speaker 3: That was you know, I grew up watching the Houses
Speaker 3: of Parliament, so I'm used to like the boomers getting unruly,
Speaker 3: but this was something else.
Speaker 1: They're just so fairal it's weird.
Speaker 2: So cheesy. The speech was outlining like a new golden
Speaker 2: age of America and the renewal of the American dream.
Speaker 2: Trump talked about how he has accomplished in forty three
Speaker 2: days more than most administrations do in four to eight years,
Speaker 2: and that we're just getting started.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 2: He referred to this wide popular mandate a quote, a
Speaker 2: mandate like this has not been seen in many decades,
Speaker 2: referring to like winning all swing states, winning the electoral
Speaker 2: college and the popular vote, and reference to this mandate
Speaker 2: kind of sparked the big boo, big like disruption of the.
Speaker 1: Night, specifically when he started saying we won the popular vote.
Speaker 3: Which like it's heavily disputed, Like I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, I don't think that that's not specifically what mister
Speaker 2: Green was talking about.
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily talking about. When he specifically was staying together.
Speaker 1: That's when the crowd had their biggest reaction of the night,
Speaker 1: which like weird in my opinion.
Speaker 3: It's great. It's the thing that Democrats are doing now,
Speaker 3: which is try trying to be like the Republicans but
Speaker 3: lib like kind of just I suppose.
Speaker 1: But not really because they didn't follow fucking through.
Speaker 2: Without any like strength, like without any actual like momentum.
Speaker 3: Right like we saw like the sort of blue and
Speaker 3: non attempts at election denial like after the election, and like,
Speaker 3: I don't think that's what they were doing here, agreed,
Speaker 3: They gave off this like yeah, this very ineffectual kind
Speaker 3: of half fast attempt at booing, and then aside from Green,
Speaker 3: they they'll just sit down and wave their ping pong things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so representative Al Green from Texas old man with caine.
Speaker 3: It's a good cane. It's got a gold handle.
Speaker 1: Like I thought it was snazzy.
Speaker 3: I thought, I mean, it's a sort of cane you
Speaker 3: normally see a sword coming out of if.
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, that would have been cooler. That would have
Speaker 2: been cooler. But instead he doesn't waves the cane around
Speaker 2: talking about how this mandate doesn't mean that there's a
Speaker 2: mandate to like, you know, cut Medicaid, cut medicare. That
Speaker 2: was specifically what he was talking about. Yeah, television mics
Speaker 2: did not really pick that up.
Speaker 3: No, and a lot of reporting didn't either, which was shitty.
Speaker 3: I thought, like, yeah, a lot of reporting just mentioned
Speaker 3: that he had shouted and not what he had shouted about,
Speaker 3: which I think is like, really, when you like, you see,
Speaker 3: what the media is doing is serving as like the
Speaker 3: propagandoram of a certain class of people when they're more
Speaker 3: upset that he was shouting than that he was protesting
Speaker 3: the fact that people are going to lose their healthcare
Speaker 3: and probably die because of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like Trump started like yelling over these protests.
Speaker 2: There was like a brief maybe like like you know,
Speaker 2: minute or so, like yelling match in the chamber. Mike
Speaker 2: Johnson was like, what do I do here? Eventually, you know,
Speaker 2: Mike Johnson threatens mister Green, gives a warning, and eventually
Speaker 2: directs the Sergeant of Arms to restore order and remove
Speaker 2: him from the chambers. Not a regular scene in American politics,
Speaker 2: but a scene that you might be more familiar with
Speaker 2: in overseas politics, and specifically in democracies that are in trouble.
Speaker 2: You'll have more and more scenes like this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we candn't get any smoke grenades like you see
Speaker 3: in Serbia.
Speaker 2: You know, it's still twenty twenty five, James, we still
Speaker 2: have three more three.
Speaker 3: More years, three more year assumed to break out the
Speaker 3: ass off smoke grenades.
Speaker 2: Whether or not this is like, you know, performative or cringe,
Speaker 2: it's like it's something that demonstrates, hey, like this, this
Speaker 2: actually isn't normal. More than holding up a cheesy sign
Speaker 2: next to Trump reading this is not normal, which is
Speaker 2: some others did in protest. This actually is treating it
Speaker 2: like a serious situation and more Democrats should have done this.
Speaker 2: They should have staggered their protests throughout the entirety of
Speaker 2: the speech, continually disrupting it, making this speech basically unable
Speaker 2: to end. Pushing this past midnight, having an endless procession
Speaker 2: of people having to be escorted out. You should force
Speaker 2: Congress to censure half of the sit in Congress people. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 2: if this really is like an actual existential threat to
Speaker 2: our democracy, If if Trump represents right now a genuine
Speaker 2: constitutional crisis, which he does, he is ignoring the courts,
Speaker 2: the people in Congress should fucking act like it.
Speaker 1: They should have gone literally, single file, one by one.
Speaker 2: Stagger it every like three minutes so that he just
Speaker 2: is unable to finish the speech. Like have have Mike
Speaker 2: Johnson do this every time.
Speaker 1: Because he was thrown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was thrown, and they should have continued to
Speaker 2: do this. The fact that no one else did is
Speaker 2: pretty disappointing.
Speaker 3: You could see Vance was very uncomfortable as well, Like.
Speaker 2: He didn have that nervous smile for most of he.
Speaker 3: Does when he's confronted with it human being that.
Speaker 2: Later on the speech, after Trump talked about you know,
Speaker 2: trans women in sports and the price of eggs, had
Speaker 2: you had a group of Democrats wearing resist T shirts
Speaker 2: walk out of the speech in protest, and like, that's
Speaker 2: so much more pathetic than actually like standing up and
Speaker 2: talking about how this guy is ignoring the courts and
Speaker 2: is actually breaking the constitution. Like that's what they should
Speaker 2: have all been doing instead of wearing resist slim merch Performatively.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could write an onion to go parodying this,
Speaker 3: but you actually couldn't because they would just do that
Speaker 3: next time, Like if they really think this is the last,
Speaker 3: the last joint session of Congress the ever going to have.
Speaker 3: They sure didn't act like it or whatever.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about transgenderism. One of the first
Speaker 2: topics Trump had discussed at length was the anti trans
Speaker 2: culture war, declaring that the government will be woke no longer.
Speaker 3: Oh God, that fully fucking sent me. I'd forgotten about that.
Speaker 3: It's just so asinatin like drunk old man at pub.
Speaker 2: He bragged about about signing an executive order establishing that
Speaker 2: there's only two genders, as well as an order preventing
Speaker 2: quote unquote men from playing in women's sports. He first
Speaker 2: pointed out to someone in the audience who was a
Speaker 2: former volleyball player who got hurt by a volleyball and
Speaker 2: then decided to quit the sport. And they now blame
Speaker 2: this on the fact that a trans woman was allegedly
Speaker 2: responsible for probably spiking the volleyball, which yes, is painful.
Speaker 1: For playing sport the way that everyone else plays sport.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for trying to win, yeah, in a team of
Speaker 2: volleyball context. So yes, this was the first kind of
Speaker 2: of these political props that Trump brought along to kind
Speaker 2: of point out and demonstrate some of the things that
Speaker 2: he was talking about. Frankly, it just seems like this
Speaker 2: person was not a very good volleyball player. But the
Speaker 2: the next example Trump pointed two I think James can
Speaker 2: speak better on but Trump said that essentially there was
Speaker 2: a quoe unquote, a man who beat a woman in
Speaker 2: a race by five hours, to the shock of the audience.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So look, it was shocked listeners to hear that
Speaker 3: most of what he said is wrong. He directly referenced
Speaker 3: a friend of mine. He was referring to Austin Killips,
Speaker 3: who is a woman. She's a trans woman. She's a
Speaker 3: very good cyclist. The reason she was doing the race,
Speaker 3: which is the Arizona Trail Race, it's an eight hundred
Speaker 3: mile ultra endurance race like I used to do these
Speaker 3: kind of things. The reason she was doing it is
Speaker 3: because of a UCI Union Cycles Internationale that governing bodies
Speaker 3: stopped trans women competing, right, so she did these races
Speaker 3: which were not sanctioned by them. She did get the record.
Speaker 3: The previous holder of the record was a CIS man.
Speaker 3: That CIS man had previously beaten. A CIS woman got
Speaker 3: Leo Wilcox. It's interesting that in this particular discipline, actually
Speaker 3: like SIS, women have been doing as well as it's
Speaker 3: not better than men like leoel Wilcox owned nearly all
Speaker 3: the long distance records in the United States. She's a
Speaker 3: phenomenal athlete. And the idea that there's some inherent biological
Speaker 3: advantages it's particularly nonsense in this sphere of cycling. But
Speaker 3: the reason that she was five hours ahead is because
Speaker 3: this race is eight hundred miles long. Like, those records
Speaker 3: are broken by that kind of period. Not all the time,
Speaker 3: but when you have athletes like Austin coming from the
Speaker 3: higher paying areas of the sport into this which has
Speaker 3: been a much less well paid and much smaller area
Speaker 3: of the sport, you're going to see these records getting broken.
Speaker 3: And again she broke a record that was held by Assis.
Speaker 1: Dude, crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I mean, like the level of like propaganda and lie.
Speaker 1: I mean, my mom watched the speech and she was like,
Speaker 1: that doesn't seem possible. And I was like, because it's
Speaker 1: all bullshit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is the second time he's picked on Austin
Speaker 3: and obviously it pisss me off. You could read her
Speaker 3: op ed in The Guardian where she wrote about this
Speaker 3: the last time he cited her in his executive order,
Speaker 3: and I would encourage you to So.
Speaker 2: After this initial dive into the trans topic, Trump followed
Speaker 2: up by talking about how egg prices are out of
Speaker 2: control take a shot, which happened about fifteen minutes into
Speaker 2: the speech. But near the end of the speech, Trump
Speaker 2: returned to the trends topic, pointing to the anti trans
Speaker 2: activist mom named January Little jod no comment whose kid
Speaker 2: secretly used they them pronouns at school, with Trump discussing
Speaker 2: how wrong it is for schools to secretly transition students
Speaker 2: and like this actually just isn't true. Surprise, surprise. The
Speaker 2: parents in this case knew that their kid wanted to
Speaker 2: use a different name in pronouns at school and actually
Speaker 2: were the ones to inform the school of this, according
Speaker 2: to school emails obtained by CNN. Not that this matters.
Speaker 2: And I will say during this clip, when the camera
Speaker 2: cuts towards his mom, like all of the people that
Speaker 2: were used as political props that were cut to, they
Speaker 2: all had the most bizarre look on their face, like
Speaker 2: completely blank, like soulis not even like it really excited
Speaker 2: this this woman who's you know, kind of a one
Speaker 2: of also the faces of like Florida's don't say gay
Speaker 2: Bill just yeah, completely like blank expression because this thing
Speaker 2: that the President's talking about is just a flat out lie.
Speaker 2: And like you know it, you lost a federal lawsuit
Speaker 2: over this lie. But here you are on national TV now,
Speaker 2: the prop of the president.
Speaker 3: Yeah, on national TV, in front of both hands of Congress,
Speaker 3: attacking your own kid, yep for trying to be who
Speaker 3: they want to be, a subject on which you lost
Speaker 3: a lawsuit.
Speaker 2: Like and then Trump directly asked Congress to pass a
Speaker 2: bill banning trans health care for children, saying wokeness is gone,
Speaker 2: our country will be woke no longer whatever.
Speaker 1: Such a loser.
Speaker 2: The next topic was Elon Musk's doge, as Trump essentially
Speaker 2: just read out a list that mischaracterized aid programs or
Speaker 2: scientific research grants, talking about how Health and Human Services
Speaker 2: paid for housing for displaced immigrants in the United States,
Speaker 2: money for Middle East, Sesame Street for making mice transgender,
Speaker 2: and LGBTQ education in Africa, as well as DEI in Burma,
Speaker 2: which I will now pivot to James again to fill
Speaker 2: in some contexts here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I'm aware of this scholarship because I'm aware of
Speaker 3: the people within the Symbol Disobedience movement who are talking
Speaker 3: to the State Department about it, and they begged for
Speaker 3: it not to be a DEI thing because they could
Speaker 3: see this happening. Right, It's the Lincoln Scholarship program our
Speaker 3: linked to it in the show notes, but it exists
Speaker 3: to empower people in Burma write with technical skills and
Speaker 3: to rise up young leaders in Burma. And it's not
Speaker 3: a DEI program, but for some reason it was categorized
Speaker 3: as such.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: It talks about respecting diversity because, as long term listeners
Speaker 3: will know, Memmar is an extremely diverse country, right, with
Speaker 3: more than fifty ethnic groups and hundreds of languages spoken.
Speaker 3: So like, that's why it talks about respecting diversity. This
Speaker 3: is one of the few things the United States has
Speaker 3: done for the people of Myanmar, after pumping up their economy,
Speaker 3: pumping up real estate and then doing nothing when the
Speaker 3: military seized power there and started to brutally repress the people.
Speaker 3: And the US is also I should add, at this
Speaker 3: point holding a billion dollars of the Burmese people's money
Speaker 3: that it froze when the coup happened. And if it
Speaker 3: doesn't want to give them these scholarships, could give them
Speaker 3: back their money, but I'm sure it won't. I know
Speaker 3: this one pisss me off in particular because obviously I'm
Speaker 3: very invested in the cause of the people of Mema
Speaker 3: and they are my friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is very emblematic of the way Trumpet
Speaker 2: Elon talked about a bunch of these aid programs. How
Speaker 2: like you know, HIV prevention programs will be LGBTQ you
Speaker 2: said money, right, Like they find a way to mischaracterize
Speaker 2: it in the most like culture war way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, talking about public health programs of circumcisions.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, exactly right. They'll try to find every single
Speaker 2: like health or education program and turn it into some
Speaker 2: like LGBTQ to ei culture or issue. Trump claimed on
Speaker 2: stage that they've found hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud. Now,
Speaker 2: the doge website previously listed one hundred and five billion
Speaker 2: dollars in like found savings, but this very week, the
Speaker 2: website scrubbed the five of the highest dollar value receives
Speaker 2: after journalists found massive errors in Elon's estimated count, and
Speaker 2: now it's while of receipts totals around eight billion, though
Speaker 2: that might also be an overestimate according to some journalists.
Speaker 3: Amazing.
Speaker 2: Trump also talked about alleged social Security fraud, claiming that
Speaker 2: millions and millions of dead people are getting Social Security.
Speaker 2: Like this just isn't true.
Speaker 1: The math is not mathing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this has been their thing for a while, right,
Speaker 3: Dead people are voting. Dead people are getting Social Security.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Trump's own Social Security administrator has like said as much.
Speaker 2: The super old people in the database simply don't have
Speaker 2: death details logged, but they are not receiving payments. There
Speaker 2: is improper payments in the Social Security system, usually around
Speaker 2: one percent. Mostly that's over payments or entertainments to people
Speaker 2: who are actually alive, and there is a system for
Speaker 2: resolving those already in place, because Social Security is a
Speaker 2: pretty old system that we've had for quite a while.
Speaker 2: And like, I don't know, like Trump's skirted by a
Speaker 2: lot of economy issues, and the way he did so
Speaker 2: was just by repeatedly claiming that doge and like, cutting
Speaker 2: this fraud will magically fix the economy, right, Like, this
Speaker 2: is how he wants to frame this. Eggs are too
Speaker 2: much money, all of these things, and he has no
Speaker 2: actual solution to it. So instead, we're going to fix
Speaker 2: the economy through Doge, through finding all this fraud. Somehow
Speaker 2: we will locate this like pot of gold hidden somewhere
Speaker 2: that will magically make our economy better. And this is
Speaker 2: his solution because he doesn't have any real solution.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I should have pointed out that Lincoln Scholarships were
Speaker 3: in fact a Trump They started in twenty nineteen, this
Speaker 3: round of them, so like.
Speaker 2: Good job cutting your own fraud. Donald.
Speaker 3: Do you know what else started in the first Trump era?
Speaker 3: Garrison advertising advertisements was I believe Trump's first executive order.
Speaker 3: He established the podcasting advertising industry, which you know supports
Speaker 3: us to this day today. Is the backbone of the
Speaker 3: American economy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean that's actually unfortunately more true than it should be.
Speaker 3: You know, if anyone wants to buy any colloidal silva.
Speaker 1: No, no, no.
Speaker 2: Okay, we are back on top of trains issues. The other,
Speaker 2: I would say most cited element in this speech was
Speaker 2: the border. Trump referenced to the Lake and Riley Act,
Speaker 2: which requires DHS to detain illegal immigrants who've admitted to
Speaker 2: were charged with or convicted of theft related crimes or
Speaker 2: any crime related to serious bodily injury.
Speaker 3: They're not necessarily illegal. They could just be undocumented people.
Speaker 3: They could be asylum seekers.
Speaker 2: Correct, correct, Yes, that is a good point.
Speaker 1: I just want to note it was in the amount
Speaker 1: of sad looking children and or family members that he
Speaker 1: had as his propaganda prop people.
Speaker 2: He had a lot of props for this speech.
Speaker 1: A lot of props for his speech. I had fred
Speaker 1: watch with me, and she just kept going, how did
Speaker 1: he find like these people?
Speaker 2: These people have been figures of his campaign for years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I explain that. I explained that. Yeah, He's brought
Speaker 1: these same individuals out, as Garrett mentioned over and over
Speaker 1: and over again, and used.
Speaker 2: Same thing with Fox News with one American News, like
Speaker 2: their entire life revolves around being political props.
Speaker 3: It's an industry, right, there was nothing new here.
Speaker 2: Trump signed an executive order on stage to rename a
Speaker 2: wildlife preserve. In this like anti immigrant propaganda move, he
Speaker 2: called for mandatory death penalty for anyone who kills the
Speaker 2: police officer and asked Congress to sign that into law,
Speaker 2: which is mostly like an anti immigrant dog whistle, essentially
Speaker 2: trying to find a way to kill immigrants who are
Speaker 2: like charged with the death of a police officer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've proposed the same thing for people smuggling drugs
Speaker 3: in the United States, like effectively charging them as if
Speaker 3: they were going to give all the drugs to one
Speaker 3: person to murder them and therefore giving them the death penalty.
Speaker 2: Now that he wants to label all these people terrorists
Speaker 2: or you know, has labeled these groups terrorists, it gives
Speaker 2: the like the government a lot more leeway to do
Speaker 2: stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean proving membership of those groups would be
Speaker 3: a chat.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 2: I mean, so is proving membership to Antifa?
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. Yeah, we haven't seen how they're gon. Well,
Speaker 3: we've somewhat seen how they're going to try in the
Speaker 3: latter case, but none in the former. I guess we'll see,
Speaker 3: I'm sure at some point in the next year or two.
Speaker 2: But like Trump said that, like previously America has quote
Speaker 2: unquote buckled under migrant occupation, but now we are achieving
Speaker 2: the great liberation of America. That's the sort of language
Speaker 2: he was using for this section.
Speaker 3: And he said how they rule from mental asylums and prisons.
Speaker 2: Very standard campaign rhetoric that he's used for years now.
Speaker 3: If you're in you to this podcast, you can go back.
Speaker 3: You can search to word Hacumba or border, and you
Speaker 3: can listen to interviews with probably hundreds of migrants. You
Speaker 3: can listen to my title forty two series, you can
Speaker 3: listen to my Darien series, and you can joy for
Speaker 3: yourself if these people are criminal, were bad, or mentally unwell.
Speaker 2: The economy had a very minimal focus compared to border
Speaker 2: or trains issues. He really skirted over the tariffs thing
Speaker 2: as fast as possible, briefly talked about the federal funding freeze,
Speaker 2: bragged about terminating the green new scam something that has
Speaker 2: never existed. Yeah, talking about withdrawing from the Preparius Climate
Speaker 2: Accords again as well as the corrupt World Health Organization
Speaker 2: and the anti American un War Crime Council. Very cool.
Speaker 2: Bragged about ending climate restrictions you know, drill, baby, drill,
Speaker 2: going after rare earth minerals, talked about no tax on
Speaker 2: tips over time and benefits for seniors, and then briefly
Speaker 2: discussed that on April second, you be enacting reciprocal tariffs
Speaker 2: just completely across the board for all nations. And he
Speaker 2: did warn farmers there is going to be an adjustment period. Quote,
Speaker 2: there will be a little disturbance unquote certainly.
Speaker 3: When you adjust to not having a job that pays
Speaker 3: you any money anymore.
Speaker 2: Crashing the economy will have a bit of an adjustment period.
Speaker 2: It will be a bit of a little disturbance.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, just like he just kept going through these
Speaker 1: obvious ridiculous claims and making Trump side comment stupidity, like
Speaker 1: calling the Middle East a bad neighborhood.
Speaker 2: And s'same street joke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just incredible, And James, our colleague Molly Conger
Speaker 1: had a good point.
Speaker 3: She did, Yeah, of her many good points. Trump said
Speaker 3: that people had never heard of Lesotho, at the same
Speaker 3: time pronouncing it in a way that one would only
Speaker 3: know if one had heard it pronounced rather than seen
Speaker 3: it written on the page. Very very funny, South Own.
Speaker 3: He also said something about Liberia like implying like I
Speaker 3: would encourage people to understand the history of Liberia. They
Speaker 3: think the US does an Liberia a thing or two.
Speaker 2: One of the last focuses of the speech was national security,
Speaker 2: promising a Golden Dome missile defense system, which Trump has
Speaker 2: previously talked about at previous twenty twenty four campaign events.
Speaker 1: Obsessed with gold, Obsessed with gold.
Speaker 3: Chess with dome, Garrison didn't even crack for those listening
Speaker 3: once again, got him now once again.
Speaker 2: He announced that his administration will be reclaiming the Panama Canal, Yeah,
Speaker 2: saying we have Mark Rubio in charge. Good luck Marco.
Speaker 2: If something goes wrong, we know who to play, right.
Speaker 3: Amazing.
Speaker 2: His comments on Greenland were specifically odd, saying Greenland We
Speaker 2: strongly support your right to determine your own future, and
Speaker 2: if you choose, we welcome you into the United States
Speaker 2: of America. But the full quote about Greenland was very odd.
Speaker 2: He said, quote, we need Greenland for national security and
Speaker 2: even international security. So weird, and we're working with everybody
Speaker 2: involved to try to get it, but we need it
Speaker 2: really for international for world security, and I think we're
Speaker 2: gonna get it. One way or another, We're gonna get it.
Speaker 2: It's a very small population, but a very very large
Speaker 2: piece of land and very very important for military security.
Speaker 2: Unquote okay, yeah, very odd, very odd comments.
Speaker 3: Whole collection of English language.
Speaker 2: Would he is He is continuing to say that one
Speaker 2: way or another, he will take Greenland. I think his
Speaker 2: focus on it for national security is particularly interesting. I
Speaker 2: think this has something to do with trying to make
Speaker 2: the US and Russia these like two massive world powers
Speaker 2: that both have like you know, Arctic land at their disposal,
Speaker 2: considering climate change or you know, a variety of issues.
Speaker 2: But I think that this does move towards this like
Speaker 2: quasi like duganism of like this like multipolar world that
Speaker 2: Putin certainly wants, and Trump is kind of signaling that
Speaker 2: you know, through the influence of Bannon. He's also moving
Speaker 2: towards with like Putin and trumpet, like, you know, the
Speaker 2: two people who control the world. Speaking of Trump did
Speaker 2: talk about receiving a letter from President Zelinski asking to
Speaker 2: return to the neotiating table, and bragged about freeing another
Speaker 2: weed smoking teacher in a Russian jail, returning him home
Speaker 2: to America. And oddly enough, Trump met with the mother
Speaker 2: of this teacher in Butler, Pennsylvania right before he got shot,
Speaker 2: which led him to point towards the comparatour family, again,
Speaker 2: pronouncing it in a completely new and different way. All
Speaker 2: of the members of the family seemed very not thrilled
Speaker 2: to be there, completely blank expressions, quite.
Speaker 1: Odd, extremely weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is where he ended the speech, was
Speaker 2: talking about, you know, getting shot, and then kind of
Speaker 2: went on a very long, ten minute, almost gptesque ramble
Speaker 2: about like America. I didn't take any notes on it
Speaker 2: because it just sounded like word salad. But there is
Speaker 2: a few other mislaneous things from the speech I do
Speaker 2: want to mention before we close out. Trump bragged about
Speaker 2: stopping all government censorship and having brought back free speech
Speaker 2: to America. Saying it's back, which is, you know, a
Speaker 2: slightly humorous amidst reports of grants being pulled for using
Speaker 2: quote unquote the bad words wrong words, as well as
Speaker 2: a truth social post a truth made earlier today Wednesday
Speaker 2: saying all federal funding will stop for any college, school,
Speaker 2: or university that allows illegal protests. Agitators will be imprisoned
Speaker 2: or permanently sent back to the country from which they came.
Speaker 2: American students will be permanently expelled or, depending on the crime,
Speaker 2: arrested no masks. So in one you can celebrate bringing
Speaker 2: back free speech, and in the other you can call
Speaker 2: for deporting people who protest or imprisoning students are protesting
Speaker 2: on their own university campuses. Very very typical Trump double
Speaker 2: speak type stuff.
Speaker 1: He talked about bringing the people back to the office
Speaker 1: like these are all like normal Trump yeah.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and these are things that have happened already. RYA.
Speaker 2: Most of the half of this speech was celebrating things
Speaker 2: that he's already done. The other half was like asking
Speaker 2: Congress to help him do more. Things Mixed in with
Speaker 2: these weird propaganda moves like making this thirteen year old
Speaker 2: brain cancer survivor in honorary Secret Service agent and admitting
Speaker 2: this very square looking teenager into West Point. Who by
Speaker 2: the way, this this teenager has the most cop phenotype
Speaker 2: I've ever seen before. It's crazy. I was shocked, like,
Speaker 2: whoa they found him the cop phenotype? There he is,
Speaker 2: which was which is two? Two more of these weird props.
Speaker 3: It's like in the cave in Plato. Everything else is
Speaker 3: just a reflection of this cob kid. Every other coult It.
Speaker 2: It's so odd because like Trump spent this speech talking
Speaker 2: about how, you know, like we're bringing back a merit
Speaker 2: based hiring. We have quote ended the tyranny of DEI
Speaker 2: across government, private sector, and military, as he then just
Speaker 2: did two DEI hires on stage. But you know whom
Speaker 2: I who am I to say? So that's kind of
Speaker 2: all I had to say on the Trump speech. Right now,
Speaker 2: I will briefly, very briefly talk about the Democratic response.
Speaker 2: The Democratic response was done by Senator Slutkin from Michigan,
Speaker 2: who opened by saying America wants change, but there's a
Speaker 2: responsible way to make change in an irresponsible way, trying
Speaker 2: to paint Doge as like this very irresponsible and brash
Speaker 2: way to achieve efficiencies, something that we all obviously you know,
Speaker 2: want the government to move more towards. She warned about
Speaker 2: how Trump's actions may result in our recession, warned about
Speaker 2: losing social Security, Medicare, and VA benefits. Quote in Musk
Speaker 2: who recently social Security the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time,
Speaker 2: and attacked Musk and the twenty year old DOGE members
Speaker 2: for using their own servers to access your sensitive data.
Speaker 2: Slotkin spent a lot of the rebuttal praising Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 2: Odd for a Democrat. I would say, I don't know why, strange,
Speaker 2: I don't know why you as the opposition party are
Speaker 2: continuing to base your politics on praising Bush and Reagan.
Speaker 2: Very cool opposition party bros, very fun stuff. She also said,
Speaker 2: I've lived and worked in many countries. I've seen democracies
Speaker 2: flicker out. I've seen what life is like when a
Speaker 2: government is rigged. Like yeah, I bet you have a
Speaker 2: former CIA agent. She also mentioned doom scrolling, So that
Speaker 2: really shows how the Democrats have the finger on the
Speaker 2: pulse here when doom scrolling is mentioned as something not
Speaker 2: to do, saying instead, you should hold your elected officials,
Speaker 2: including me, accountable. Watch how the voting, go to town halls,
Speaker 2: demand the take action and organize. Pick up one issue
Speaker 2: you're passionate about and engage. Doom scrolling doesn't count. Join
Speaker 2: a group that cares about your issue and act. If
Speaker 2: you can't find one, start one. And that was That
Speaker 2: was the bulk of the ten minute Democratic response. Oh boy,
Speaker 2: what a what a what a fun what a fun
Speaker 2: day in American politics?
Speaker 3: That was Yep.
Speaker 2: Any final thoughts, James Sophie like this speech.
Speaker 1: This episode is running long. Yeah, so I really don't
Speaker 1: have any final thoughts other than bad, bad, bad, bad bad.
Speaker 2: The Democrats are unwilling to do anything actually serious. Once again,
Speaker 2: the attempts that quote unquote fact checking this speech are
Speaker 2: also incredibly pathetic to look at.
Speaker 3: Truly.
Speaker 2: There's this New York Times fact check which which I
Speaker 2: will close on just because it made me and the
Speaker 2: rest of our group chat very upset, which outlined this
Speaker 2: long paragraph from Trump saying over the past four years,
Speaker 2: twenty one million people poured into the United States, many
Speaker 2: of whom were murderers, human traffickers, gang members, and other
Speaker 2: criminals from the streets of dangerous city and all throughout
Speaker 2: the world. Because of Joe Biden's insane and very dangerous
Speaker 2: open border policies. They are now strongly embedded in our country,
Speaker 2: but we are getting them out and getting them out fast.
Speaker 2: And the fact check for this very like false claim
Speaker 2: is quote fast is a relative term. This statement is misleading.
Speaker 3: It's just oh on.
Speaker 2: It only focuses on the ending sentence saying that we're
Speaker 2: getting these immigrants out and we're getting them out fast.
Speaker 2: It ignores calling many of these twenty one million people
Speaker 2: human traffickers, gang members, and criminals. Does not say that
Speaker 2: we never have had open border policy like it's crazy,
Speaker 2: even like the liberal fact checking is completely pathetic and toothless,
Speaker 2: and like fact ticking doesn't work. It's not useful anyway.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm not spending this whole episode fact checking
Speaker 2: Trump's claims. But the fact that you're gonna parrot this
Speaker 2: insane anti immigrant rhetoric and only fact chuck Trump saying
Speaker 2: that we're gonna get these immigrants out of our country fast,
Speaker 2: calling it a relative term, And this is the reason
Speaker 2: that the statement is misleading. This completely shows how Democrats
Speaker 2: like completely lost any momentum on the immigration topic. Same
Speaker 2: thing with the trans topic. They're actually unwilling to push
Speaker 2: back on changing population sentiment because they're automatically agreeing with
Speaker 2: the actual conceit. Yeah, anyway, that got me upset, and
Speaker 2: then I watched Yawe and then went to that, so.
Speaker 3: There we go. Glad you got your Yaoi Erison.
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